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Um but yes, well the other dword which
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is diversity. Yeah, they don't like that
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either at Tik Tok. But um speaking, you
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know, since we're talking transparently,
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uh the city of Virginia Beach public
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schools decided to
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essentially cancel all language and
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programming of diversity, equity, and
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inclusion in Virginia Beach schools in
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the like practically the dead of night.
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I mean, it was a normal schoolboard
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meeting, but they added it to the agenda
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the same day. They voted to move it to
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action, which means to vote on it the
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same day. I mean, it was just a freight
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train. And there was two school board
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members out. Yep. Two, one on
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bereavement, one out of the country.
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There was I mean they already had sorry
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they already had a majority
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but you know they just had an
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overwhelming majority at that I mean an
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yeah they had an over it was yeah 63
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basically and you see I I've since seen
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the posts from some of the other school
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board members people like Matt Cummings
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people like Alvida Green is that correct
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Green um they have made posts this was
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forced through over the objections uh of
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other school board members not
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necessarily because they disagree they
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they do disagree they on different
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things but they als So on a fundamental
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purpose thought that we should have
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public comment on this sort of thing
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especially because without any public
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notice without any opportunity for
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public comment and
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that's so I have I have some feelings I
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mean right well listen let's just start
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with Kathleen Brown who's the chair okay
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let's just
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like this woman is the face of the
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responsibility for this okay because
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Kathleen Brown is the chair of the
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school
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board. Middle of the presentation, like
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middle of discussion, the
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superintendent's chief of staff notifies
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this the the the schoolboard
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attorney that there is an extension
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until May April 24th, April 24th until
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after the next school board
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meeting. And as a matter of fact, that
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information came out when Matt Cummings
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had submitted for he basically put a he
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made a motion uh to call a special
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session
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Thursday and midway when cuz you know
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that's not going to go over well because
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the school board you know half that
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school board more than half of that
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school board does not want to report for
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duty but twice a month if that if that I
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mean they prefer better. So, so
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basically like they're mid way through
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discussion on
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this. They found out about this
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extension and so then it was discussed
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well the next planned school board
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meeting is April
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22nd. This should be deferred to April
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22nd. The two other board members will
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be present.
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the public will have had time to read
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the
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resolution, to process it, and to give
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feedback and to come give public comment
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on April 22nd. And you see, the thing
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that really strikes me most about this
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is is the deadline in general and how
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much legitimacy and authority that the
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school board and even us in this
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conversation give an arbitrary deadline,
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a demand, a mandate from a federal uh
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agency, from the state government. And I
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just want to bring up especially in the
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history and the context of public
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schools, do we all not remember how
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difficult it was to get these school
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boards to integrate to fight
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segregation? here they get a tepid
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letter from the state and oh my gosh we
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have to comply immediately before anyone
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can even talk about it we have to stop
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diversity we can do that a heartbeat
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when we actually try to implement diver
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when we try to actually integrate
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schools here in Virginia Beach across
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Virginia there are some counties in
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Virginia that did not integrate until
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the '9s we Virginia closed schools when
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after integration after Brown v board
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they closed 500 schools for like five
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years in Virginia like Virginia did not
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want to integrate at all with the
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schools. And what's crazy to me right
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now is that these same fools that come
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and speak at these schoolboard, these
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conservatives that come speak at these
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schoolboard meetings and they're like,
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"Don't tell me what to do. I I don't
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co-parent with the government."
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They want to co-parent with the
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government because they want the
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government to police their children's
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gender and give them a phone call to
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tell them what's going on with their
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kids. And and they literally don't they
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don't want they're like we don't need
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federal money. Oh well clearly we do
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because now all all of the you know that
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that's what's pissing me off is the
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conservatives get to hide they get to
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hide behind oh we can't afford to lose
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the federal funding so we got to do
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this. So they get to hide their bigotry.
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This it's the Nuremberg. It's it's the
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Nuremberg defense. It's literally
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Nurmber. I've got to do what I was told
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to do. But here, but my point here is
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about the legitimacy and authority. It's
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really important. There is no legitimacy
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to this other than an executive order in
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the interpretation of Jason Miis. And as
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far as that, it's two people who decided
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that. But when we were talking about
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Brown v. Board of Education, that is a
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Supreme Court decision that had legal
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legitimacy and authority that different
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school boards, different state fought
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tooth thin nail. Right now, what we need
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and I and I'm speaking directly to the
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Virginia Beach City Public Schools legal
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director their their their attorney.
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They have to understand that what the
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light that they're standing in is
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malicious compliance. They do not have
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to comply with an unlawful order, a law
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that they know is in direct
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contravenence to the Virginia Values Act
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and other federal state statutes and law
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which have not been repealed, have not
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been challenged to the Supreme Court, do
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not have any legal legitimacy. And if
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you if you have passed the bar, you
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understand what an executive order is
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and what a mandate given from the
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attorney general is. And if you did lose
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federal funding, you should be willing
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to sue. You should be in contact with
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other school boards because we need to
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have a mass class action lawsuit so we
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actually defend the funding. Because if
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you're going to give up this funding,
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not only is it going to hurt our kids,
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not only pushing back progress, you are
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complying against diversity when there
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were people, your predecessors, who were
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fighting tooth and nail for generations
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to keep diversity from happening.
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Correct. It is a weak, spineless
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position, legally indefensible. It will
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cost our city in the long term so much
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more money, so wasting our resources and
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time, and it's going to translate to
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worse outcomes for students. And all
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they have to do is do a show a little
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bit of the backbone they did for racism,
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for discrimination, except in the
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direction of defending university, but
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they're racist, though they don't want
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to. That's why it was a 63 vote because
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these people were chomping at the bit.
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They were so happy. They were so happy
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to rush this through that Go ahead.
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Yeah, I was going to say that. And that
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that's the thing
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they're they're they're going to be
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super happy to rush this through and and
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and all of that.
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Um
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what and this is what I want people to
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really hear this, right? This isn't a a
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a judgment on anybody, but I just want
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people to really understand
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is I wasn't surprised that this
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happened. Nope. I was at this school
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board meeting to speak on this topic
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because I knew they would try and do
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this or something like
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this.
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Um,
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and it's it's really great that we're
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going to have a huge rally at the next
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school board
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meeting. That's that's
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exciting. That won't be enough. It won't
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be enough. That won't be anything. We
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could have stopped this from happening.
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If people were there talking about it
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before, if people had never stopped
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talking about it, if people had done
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less hoping that they would come to
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sense and less hoping that a lawyer
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would speak up and less hoping that
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somebody else would fix it. If people
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had done less of that and done more of
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showing up, we wouldn't be where we are
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now. And we will not get any better. We
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will only continue to get worse if
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people show up one time from now. Yep.
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And hope that changes their mind. If
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people have one party and one shout and
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hope they were heard and go back to
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their regular lives and hope that it
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changes it. It will not change. We will
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continue to be at the will
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of the this administration and these
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unlawful executive orders and all of the
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consequences of them. That will just
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continue to
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happen unless people in mass, the people
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that are upset about this, the people
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that this is affecting, unless they
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continue to show up, not just next
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school board meeting, but every other
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single schoolboard meeting and every
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other single place that they can until
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it changes. Cuz if you just if you don't
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stop until after the change, the change
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is not going to happen. That's right.
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Mhm. right now it has to be resist until
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revolution. Um it it it really can't be
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anymore. I showed up and gave my opinion
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and it has to be everybody every time
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that we are just going to keep losing.
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Yes, 100%. And like I I was kind of
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surprised. So, I was I already like had
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my post on I put it on Facebook because
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it with the schoolboard stuff that tends
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to get the most traction for me and I
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had a copy of the resolution. So, I went
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ahead and I literally they're still in
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discussion, but I already know how this
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vote is going to go. I know it's 63. I
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know who's voting for it and I already
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have it typed out and sent before they
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finished even finished voting on that.
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And I was right. Well, I tagged the
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chair of the school board. Mhm.
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And I tagged the other two members of
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the school board that also have
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Facebooks. Two of them don't. And that
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post, the last I checked, had 79
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shares. I have
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never ever had a Facebook post have 79
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shares. I then shared it into some mom's
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groups and now we have an event and I
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have said I want a Corey Booker style
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event on April 22nd.
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And um and and I I honestly every two
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weeks thereafter um I know that people
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will not continue to participate at that
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level the way Cody and I do, but that is
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honestly what's necessary. Um I will
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tell you that the schoolboard chair is
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100% feeling the heat because this is
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100% her fault. And it is and listen,
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they it was a gift. It was an honest
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gift in some ways what they did
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because one of the things I said to the
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couple schoolboard members I spoke to
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today
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was I wholly a thousand% disagree with
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what you're
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doing but I can't say
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much except for I know you're going to
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do it and it was technically due by the
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11th. And so I can't really argue on the
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same day, same whatever because I know
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that the school board chair is not going
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to just miss the deadline.
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Okay. But what you did though
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was you
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publicly displayed that you do not
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care about transparency.
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You do not care about the public having
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proper notice and an opportunity to have
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input. And what's hilarious, Kathleen
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Brown, is that I will be going back into
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the 2020 and 2021 and 2022 schoolboard
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meetings before you won your election.
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And I will be
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clipping all the times you were
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skewering the school board for their
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lack of transparency.
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And those words are going to be echoing
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in your head and all over social
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media until you because she's in a
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minority opportunity district. That is
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what is so disgusting about this on on
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top of it was you didn't even give your
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own
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constituents an
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opportunity when you had
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it to actually like give them that
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opportunity. You had that opportunity.
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you didn't have to do a special session.
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We you could have just left it for a
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vote on the 22nd. You're like, um, it's
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getting really close to the deadline
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because you can take cover in your
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racism under
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that. And so then I got a an employee.
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Well, let me let me show you. Let me let
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me just tell you how it actually does
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get impacted because an employee I got a
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text message. Um, it says, "So,
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interestingly enough, our AP assistant
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principal was walking around the
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building today, their school, making
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sure that there was nothing posted about
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the 2025 framework for
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VBCPS because none of it can be
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displayed anymore after the vote. So, I
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guess they're going to have to spend a
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bunch of money coming with up with a
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brand new framework that doesn't have
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the word equity in it." I checked the
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website and it is still up on there, but
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buildings have been told to remove
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anything that says equity or diversity
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in relating to the BBCPS
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framework. And see, and and that's the
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thing is is they'll frame this under
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well, it just says you can't have
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anything that
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um that won't allow people to
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participate because of of their race.
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But what does that have to do with
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removing the word equity from
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everything? Correct. What does that have
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to do with removing anything that refers
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to diversity or
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including anything that has to do with
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with inclusion? Right. Who do you want
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to exclude? You
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know, you're not providing evidence that
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any of these things have excluded
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anybody. Right. Correct. What what
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you've done is you've allowed somebody
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to make these words bad. Yep. And
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everything that could possibly feelings
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get hurt. Everything that could possibly
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be associated with these words bad, even
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the really good things. Mhm.
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And and then it's right. I know. Well,
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and so then today, so they rush this
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through, right? It rushes through now.
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Okay.
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So, and then today, HCLU Nationwide
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comes out and says, "We've reached an
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agreement with the Department of
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Education that ensures no school
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district is required to certify the
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government's vague ban on quote in
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quotation illegal DEI before a court
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rules on the legality of the
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requirements by April 24th."
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So now
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they didn't have legitimacy or
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authority. I was right. They so they
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need a court to actually give them sort
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of authority. They need they need the
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court to rule on the legality.
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They need standing to be proven. They
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need standing to prove that this is
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not that this or that this is lawful
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which we all know it's not.
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But the like so
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now now BBCPS is facing a
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lawsuit with 100% certainty because I
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spoke to said someone today who knows
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this
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that lawsuit will be
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filed if they do not reverse this
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resolution because They're out of
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compliance. They have now signed a
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resolution that is has been
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stripped that has stripped E diversity,
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equity,
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inclusion, which is they're violating
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Title Six right now because they're
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stripping all of this from the schools.
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They're literally breaking the law right
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now. Yeah. And you see, this is what
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happens when you comply in advance. You
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believe you're going to be safe. You
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believe that, oh, I'm complying with the
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big bad strong guy. But here's the thing
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about it. There's no right way to do the
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wrong thing. I had to steal your word,
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Cody. No, but also this is political.
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This isn't this isn't even about like,
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oh, because had Biden done that had done
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something. You know what I mean? Like
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they would be pushing back tr tooth and
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nail. Like the the reality is is this is
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100% political. They did this because it
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fits their political narrative and their
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goals and this that is that is why they
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did this. It is they don't give any
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shits about the legality of this. They
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don't give any shits. They just are
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like,
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"Oh, perfect. our our political
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leader who is more important than our
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legal than our justice system and our
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children has said that we need to do
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this and then the then I mean this is a
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little bit of a sidebar but the White
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House you know issued a thing about
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National Child Abuse
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Month and it's as and as a survivor
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myself of child abuse it is it
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is physically nauseating
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for the White House to have actually put
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gender ideology in there as a form of
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abuse and the focus of child abuse
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when that is not not just not just
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patently false but like but but for
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survival for
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survival so I'm so worked up but
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survivors of physical abuse like I
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endured emotional abuse like I endured
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endured
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sexual abuse that many people endured.
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ignoring all of the actual real abuses.
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Ignoring the real
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abuses and just just for your political
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to political points like I mean all of
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this is disgusting and like all of these
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you know people that we were talking
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about David Co Pepper is the one in
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district 8 that in in y'all's district
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that put forth this resolution but David
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Co Pepper is not running. He's not going
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to run again. He can barely do the job
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now. So, he's literally the fall guy for
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anything controversial for them because
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like they all of the other people for
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the most part except for Carolyn
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Williams, she's not running again
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either, need to save
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face. So, this is why we need
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involvement. This is why we need people
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paying attention. This is why we need
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um people to to to show up
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because believe it or
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not, it is it it does help seeing new
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faces. They don't give a [ __ ] about
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Cody's face, my face, Thea's face. They
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don't we can come up there and we can,
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you know, Cody and I when we talk to the
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school board, we're not even talking to
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the school board. We're talking to the
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audience, right? We're just hoping that
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somebody out there hears something and
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maybe we, you know, that listens, we
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can, you know, just give them something
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something to think about, right? Or I go
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just to be mean to these people cuz I
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like hate half of them. Um, but
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like we need more people in because they
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think that that people will forget about
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this. They think that in a year and a
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half when they run for their seat again
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that, you know, we won't remember
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because they'll have some other they'll
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flood the zone with some other [ __ ]
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for a
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distraction and we need to know that
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that's not we're not doing that. Yeah.
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And I mean, you know, like you say, it's
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a a gift that they did it. It raises the
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level of necessity, if you will. Mhm. Um
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and and and that's what it is because
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when you say that they think people will
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forget about it a year and a half from
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now, they will. They will. They will. um
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when when they came for the trans kids
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from our schools and the LGBT kid kids
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in our schools, when they came for the
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books in our schools and did and did the
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book review committee and all of those
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things
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when when they did
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it when they made the decision to do
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it. People didn't keep fighting. No,
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some of us did. Some of us did. Some of
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us still here. Um but the the the people
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that were there for a couple meetings in
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big rallies, they did they moved on and
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they forgot about it. No, there's
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nothing we can do. This is just the way
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it is now. And that's how this
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happens. That's how this happens. That's
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how we I don't want to I don't want to
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argue against what you're saying because
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you're right. What you're saying is 100%
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true. But on that particular issue, I
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have to I have to give it up to the
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students, to the parents, the people
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that did show up for how many months,
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how many years of of that sort of stuff.
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And this isn't to say that it's not
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efficacious to show up and do those
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sorts of things. It's to say
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that we need to have that sustained
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pressure because they're going to keep
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doing it. They're they're not going to
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stop. And no matter what they do, we
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have to keep our pressure up because we
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have to be just as determined or more
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determined. and
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persistent than than they are being. Oh.
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Um and and you know, nothing nothing
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against the people that have shown up,
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especially the kids. I idolize those
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kids. Oh my god. A lot of them have have
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moved on to college and all and all of
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those things. And I also understand that
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um public speaking is the number two
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fear. Um but we really need to start
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doing things
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afraid. th those kids that showed up. I
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love those kids and I'm sure those kids
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have great parents. I would have loved
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to see the parents of those 21 kids show
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up every week. Yeah. Right. Yeah. All
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right. Um I I love the rest of our
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community that that shows up when
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called. Um but the the call is constant
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now and I I need them to understand
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that. Yep. I need them to understand
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that the call is constant. the bat
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signal is literally always on that that
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even if they've finished their last
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thing, the next thing's coming.
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Yeah. And and you can't wait for it to
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happen anymore and react to
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it. Um, and and I'm I'm I'm saying this
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because I love these people because
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these terrible things are going to keep
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happening to these people.
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Um, if they don't start showing up every
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time now. Well, like even Utah, like
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Utah gave the finger to the
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administration about this. Utah. Now
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Utah's rich. Utah, all them white people
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out there, those Mormons, they can
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afford to lose federal funding. Some of
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them can. Well, and I mean, Utah's a
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state. I mean, I the between the Mormon
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church and the state, which is basically
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the Mormon church,
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um 100% they could afford to lose. Oh,
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yeah. I'm just saying if you if you go
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to Salt Lake City, there's a line drawn
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down Salt Lake City. Oh, yeah. For sure.
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Yeah. the Mormon side of town and the
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rest. Yeah, for sure. But where the kids
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live on the tramps and like where
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there's homelessness prevalent and
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there's all sorts of bar like Yeah. Oh,
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yeah. No, no, 100%. But but they're but
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Utah financially is in a position to to
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if they lost if a school district lost
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federal funding in Utah, even in Salt
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Lake City, the state would pick it up.
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You see, that's the I saw Yncan come out
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and he made that statement about how the
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Virginia Department of Education is
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prepared to take on this sort of and I
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was just thinking to myself, is this the
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same Yncan who like messed up the
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Department of Education's budget like a
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year or two ago to like 200 $300 million
00:25:35.600 --> 00:25:38.470
and like under Uhhuh. Yeah. Yeah. $300
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:40.149
million from the schools. Yeah. Uhhuh.
00:25:40.159 --> 00:25:42.549
Yeah. He told that was his first year.
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:44.390
Um and then and now he's just ready to
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.549
take it over. I know. But he's [ __ ]
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:47.630
He's
00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:49.750
anti-Dei and so the fact that he's
00:25:49.760 --> 00:25:52.149
anti-Dei, so no, he's not. He's going to
00:25:52.159 --> 00:25:55.750
be like if he he if any school district
00:25:55.760 --> 00:25:58.549
in the state of Virginia that that
00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:02.630
doesn't comply, he's he would not give
00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:05.830
state he would not authorize state funds
00:26:05.840 --> 00:26:08.590
to go to that school district to oppose
00:26:08.600 --> 00:26:11.029
DEI. He would tell that individual
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:14.149
school district that yeah like we'd be
00:26:14.159 --> 00:26:16.870
on our own cuz see these are individual
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:18.950
school districts. So there's 131 school
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:21.190
districts in Virginia. Okay. The
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:22.590
majority, according to the
00:26:22.600 --> 00:26:25.750
superintendent, supposedly the majority
00:26:25.760 --> 00:26:27.510
of the schools are just signing this
00:26:27.520 --> 00:26:30.070
paper and not doing [ __ ] about it.
00:26:30.080 --> 00:26:31.990
They're just signing it, saying they did
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.070
the thing, and then sending it in and
00:26:34.080 --> 00:26:36.390
then letting it let letting it figure
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:37.909
itself out or whatever, counting on them
00:26:37.919 --> 00:26:40.789
to be counting on them to to be inept,
00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:44.870
you know. And so, but our district, no,
00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:47.269
they had to they and not only did they
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:48.950
they had to immediately suspend the
00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.950
equity and education policy 5-4. Yeah.
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:54.630
Oh, and our equity dashboard off the
00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:57.549
website gone. Gone. It was gone
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:01.350
yesterday. 404 page not found.
00:27:01.360 --> 00:27:04.630
Jeez. And so our school board, that's
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:06.870
the that's what is the the thing is that
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:09.430
they were like, "This is our chance.
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:11.190
This is our chance.
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:14.149
our chance. Do it. Rip it all out right
00:27:14.159 --> 00:27:17.190
now.
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:20.630
So, um, so if you are in Virginia Beach
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:24.029
and you are listening, I need
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:26.669
you to show
00:27:26.679 --> 00:27:28.669
up to
00:27:28.679 --> 00:27:32.710
2512 George Mason Boulevard on April
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:38.470
22nd at 5:45 p.m. We might actually do a
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.190
rally at 5:00, but at the latest 5:45
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:43.430
p.m. And at every school board meeting
00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:45.350
after that, you want diversity, equity,
00:27:45.360 --> 00:27:46.710
and inclusion in your schools. That's
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:48.669
right. Every two weeks after that,
00:27:48.679 --> 00:27:55.870
basically. Um, so yeah. No, like we
00:27:55.880 --> 00:28:00.029
absolutely we there
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.029
this this is just going to continue to
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:04.630
get worse.
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:06.750
this kind of
00:28:06.760 --> 00:28:08.990
capitulation so
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:13.990
early is so dangerous. Um, school
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:16.549
districts are facing it everywhere. This
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.110
is not like Virginia Beach is not
00:28:19.120 --> 00:28:21.269
unique. So, if you're not in Virginia
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:24.389
Beach and your school board hasn't
00:28:24.399 --> 00:28:28.310
already told Golden Calf to go f
00:28:28.320 --> 00:28:31.830
himself, um, then you need to be at your
00:28:31.840 --> 00:28:34.149
school board meeting. You need you need
00:28:34.159 --> 00:28:39.350
to be at the now. Yep. And
00:28:39.360 --> 00:28:41.990
yeah, I mean it's just Yeah, I get it.
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:43.230
There's a lot of
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:46.149
uh a lot of people out there right now.
00:28:46.159 --> 00:28:48.870
I don't watch the news. I'm not involved
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:50.789
in politics. I don't pay attention to
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:55.510
that stuff. Um that just means important
00:28:55.520 --> 00:28:57.190
things are happening to you without you
00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:58.549
knowing it, without you having any
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:02.470
control over it. Um, I mean, all of the
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.549
time. If you're not at the if you are
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.830
not at the table, you are on the menu.
00:29:07.840 --> 00:29:09.669
That's That's exactly right. Next time
00:29:09.679 --> 00:29:11.430
you show up to the grocery store and
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:13.110
you're wondering why the bill is so much
00:29:13.120 --> 00:29:15.029
higher than it was, remember that you
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.430
weren't paying attention. um next
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.830
time you know something h you know your
00:29:21.840 --> 00:29:24.110
your mom, your dad, your grandparents,
00:29:24.120 --> 00:29:26.870
yourself, your social security check
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:28.870
doesn't show up, your your Medicare
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:31.350
coverage doesn't happen. Just remember
00:29:31.360 --> 00:29:33.430
you weren't paying attention. Yeah. Oh.
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:34.870
Oh, I actually have a funny story about
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.909
that. Um so I was in DC for a federal
00:29:37.919 --> 00:29:39.830
rally on Tuesday and I went to the
00:29:39.840 --> 00:29:42.510
Polestar dealership cuz they're offering
00:29:42.520 --> 00:29:45.909
$20,000 credits to Tesla Oh, really?
00:29:45.919 --> 00:29:47.909
owners.
00:29:47.919 --> 00:29:50.070
And the only Polestar, it's a Swedish
00:29:50.080 --> 00:29:51.750
company, Volvo company, right? The only
00:29:51.760 --> 00:29:55.190
Polestar dealership is in DC. So I was
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.110
like, well, I'm going to be at the ACLU
00:29:57.120 --> 00:29:58.909
Federal Workers Rally Mar helping
00:29:58.919 --> 00:30:02.789
Marshall. So, um, I asked my road dog
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.310
like, "Hey, do you mind if like on the
00:30:04.320 --> 00:30:05.510
way out we just like swing by the
00:30:05.520 --> 00:30:06.870
dealership so I can check out the
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:10.269
Polestar? Maybe want take a test drive."
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:13.430
So, I do all the things, okay? And I'm
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.110
talking to the two sales guys, very nice
00:30:15.120 --> 00:30:17.269
guys. And now we're in DC, okay? So I
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:18.750
feel very
00:30:18.760 --> 00:30:22.230
safe saying what I'm gonna say, you
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:24.710
know, like anything about like my
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.549
swastika car or like whatever cuz you
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.070
know what I mean? I'm in DC. Like
00:30:28.080 --> 00:30:29.149
literally
00:30:29.159 --> 00:30:31.990
98% of the people that live in work in
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.269
DC are you
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:37.310
know center left.
00:30:37.320 --> 00:30:42.310
So, I'm I want the Polestar 4 and I
00:30:42.320 --> 00:30:44.630
can't have it because they said they're
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:46.470
all sitting at the port right now
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:50.389
because of the tariff [ __ ] Mhm. And
00:30:50.399 --> 00:30:52.870
he they said, "So, you can only buy a
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.070
Polestar 3." Well, I'm literally the
00:30:56.080 --> 00:30:57.830
worst person to say this to. Like, don't
00:30:57.840 --> 00:30:59.110
tell me I can't have something because
00:30:59.120 --> 00:31:00.630
it's the thing that I want. And it legit
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.269
is the I l I want the Polestar 4. It has
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:04.710
no back window. Like, no back
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:06.389
windshield. It's so cool. I'm in love
00:31:06.399 --> 00:31:09.549
with it. Um,
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.549
and I was like, "It's cool, man. Like, I
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:13.909
I'm not going to sweat it, you know?
00:31:13.919 --> 00:31:15.990
Like, I'm pretty easy. Like, I you know,
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:17.750
I just have to kind of decide, do I like
00:31:17.760 --> 00:31:18.950
what what do I want to do? Do I want to
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.269
wait or whatever?" And and the guy was
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:22.789
like, you know, like I really appreciate
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.110
that cuz man, some people are just like
00:31:25.120 --> 00:31:26.789
not being understanding of that right
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.310
now. And I looked at them and I was
00:31:29.320 --> 00:31:33.190
like, I know that you can't say this
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:36.630
because obviously your job, but like I
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:38.389
would have a hard time not looking at
00:31:38.399 --> 00:31:40.389
those people going, well, who did you
00:31:40.399 --> 00:31:42.750
vote
00:31:42.760 --> 00:31:47.110
for? Because that's the why. Oh, yeah.
00:31:47.120 --> 00:31:50.310
Who did you vote for? Oh, I I in my job,
00:31:50.320 --> 00:31:52.389
I work with
00:31:52.399 --> 00:31:56.070
um the government. Mhm. Right. Um and
00:31:56.080 --> 00:31:58.630
and people that work in the government,
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.110
I interact with them frequently
00:32:01.120 --> 00:32:04.549
and um yeah, once a week they have to
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.509
send out, "I did this. Please don't fire
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:09.990
me." They [ __ ] do. I all of them.
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:13.350
Yeah. Yeah. And every two weeks they get
00:32:13.360 --> 00:32:18.389
an offer to resign.
00:32:18.399 --> 00:32:21.029
Yeah.
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.830
And did any of any of those people said
00:32:23.840 --> 00:32:25.509
that they voted for them? And guess
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:27.509
what? That's guess what I asked some of
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:29.190
them. Okay. Yep. Who did you vote? The
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:30.950
ones that I know. Who did you vote for?
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.430
You vote for cuz I know they voted for
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:35.509
cuz we'd had conversations before. But I
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.269
want you to just say it out loud so I
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.110
can get the satisfaction of hearing you
00:32:39.120 --> 00:32:41.669
say that you voted for this. Mhm. What
00:32:41.679 --> 00:32:44.630
do they say when you ask them? Oh, those
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:45.830
those ones don't really talk to me
00:32:45.840 --> 00:32:48.070
anymore. They don't talk. They've seen
00:32:48.080 --> 00:32:51.590
me on the news and other places and oh
00:32:51.600 --> 00:32:53.669
um but they're very upset about it. Some
00:32:53.679 --> 00:32:56.149
of them are very they're very very upset
00:32:56.159 --> 00:33:02.710
about it. Um because many of them um you
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.029
know regardless of our differences of
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:06.710
politics or anything like that between
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.149
any of them um you know many of them
00:33:10.159 --> 00:33:13.269
worked very hard. Yeah. Of course to to
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.590
get the jobs that they have. Of course.
00:33:15.600 --> 00:33:19.029
Um, you mean they're not DEI? No. Um,
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.590
many of them many of them served in the
00:33:21.600 --> 00:33:24.389
the military and served our country
00:33:24.399 --> 00:33:27.029
prior Okay. to then going into the
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.470
government and and serving our country.
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.470
Okay. Civil service. Yeah. Um, and so
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.029
and and and so they and they don't want
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.029
to retire.
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:42.070
They're not trying to resign. this was
00:33:42.080 --> 00:33:44.710
the job that they worked for and were
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:47.029
going to this is where their second
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:48.630
career so they could get a second
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:50.549
retirement, second pension and they set
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.389
that up for themselves and they are very
00:33:52.399 --> 00:33:54.710
happy to have done that and that's great
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:58.389
and and the whole idea let me just
00:33:58.399 --> 00:34:00.310
anybody watching right now let me just
00:34:00.320 --> 00:34:02.789
make it very clear this whole idea that
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.909
they're going to do more with less no
00:34:05.919 --> 00:34:08.589
what they're doing with less is
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.310
less Mhm. You know, that that story
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:13.669
reminds me of something that I that I
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.510
heard from a uh a World War II
00:34:15.520 --> 00:34:16.950
historian. Tik Tok, a lot of the
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:18.470
historians have been coming out. They
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:20.149
were talking about um the concentration
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:21.589
camps, folks that were actually in the
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:23.109
camps, and how a lot of the folks in
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:24.869
those camps were actually Nazi
00:34:24.879 --> 00:34:26.710
supporters, people who voted for Hitler,
00:34:26.720 --> 00:34:28.869
who were supporters of Hitler, and how
00:34:28.879 --> 00:34:30.710
they had this mentality, this mindset
00:34:30.720 --> 00:34:32.950
that was like, I'm just, this was a
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:34.869
mistake. I wasn't supposed to be here.
00:34:34.879 --> 00:34:36.310
Like, everyone else here is supposed to
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.149
be here, but I'm not supposed to be
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.030
here. um right up in like while they
00:34:41.040 --> 00:34:43.430
were in incarcerated while they were
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.750
being until the end right up until the
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:47.430
so there's a sort of thing that I think
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:49.349
for some of these people they're waking
00:34:49.359 --> 00:34:51.829
up for some of them none they never will
00:34:51.839 --> 00:34:53.510
um and if anything they're going to
00:34:53.520 --> 00:34:56.069
double triple down on blaming immigrants
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.550
on blaming diversity hires on blaming
00:34:58.560 --> 00:35:00.470
other people that they see succeed
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:01.990
regardless of race or what and I think
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:03.910
that that's the sort of the uh the
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:05.589
elitism the anti- elitism the sort of
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.270
stuff that goes into some anti-semitism
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.829
into anti- intellectualism into all of
00:35:09.839 --> 00:35:10.790
these different things that we see
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.190
flourishing and it's really sad. Yeah.
00:35:15.200 --> 00:35:17.910
And they there's even now they're not
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.990
thinking it all the way through. I had
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.589
somebody brief interaction
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.829
um and they were like, "Well, we're just
00:35:27.839 --> 00:35:30.069
going to end up bringing all of those
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:31.349
things back and we're going to make them
00:35:31.359 --> 00:35:34.230
in the USA."
00:35:34.240 --> 00:35:36.069
And what I've started to say to people
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:37.230
is like,
00:35:37.240 --> 00:35:39.910
okay, that would be great, right? If if
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:43.190
everything was made in the USA and Yeah.
00:35:43.200 --> 00:35:45.510
Yeah, it would be. And I was like, cool.
00:35:45.520 --> 00:35:47.069
So,
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:51.349
just so, you know, talking about it,
00:35:51.359 --> 00:35:53.670
what is the reason why people don't buy
00:35:53.680 --> 00:35:57.150
the made in the USA stuff
00:35:57.160 --> 00:35:59.670
now? Well, because, you know, it costs
00:35:59.680 --> 00:36:01.829
less to make it over there. Uh, I was
00:36:01.839 --> 00:36:03.349
like, "So, it costs more, right? We
00:36:03.359 --> 00:36:05.109
don't buy it now because it costs more,
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:06.630
right?" And that was back then, by the
00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:09.270
way. And and and and yeah, because it
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.109
ends up costing more. I'm like, "Cool.
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.750
So, if we bring those jobs back, do you
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.990
think people in America are going to
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:17.990
work for less like you're saying that
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.470
makes things cost less?" Well, no,
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:21.589
people aren't going to work for that.
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:22.950
I'm like, "So, it's not going to cost
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.430
less to make them here?" No. So, we're
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:27.109
just going to take everything and make
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.550
it as expensive as the most expensive
00:36:30.560 --> 00:36:33.430
thing on the shelf that nobody buys. So,
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:35.430
regardless of of whether it's made here
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.030
or comes back here or whatnot, what
00:36:37.040 --> 00:36:38.870
you've done at your level, because
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:40.390
you're not going to be making money off
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:43.030
the manufacturing, right? No. So, you
00:36:43.040 --> 00:36:44.710
don't own the manufacturing company. So,
00:36:44.720 --> 00:36:46.550
so at your level, you're just buying the
00:36:46.560 --> 00:36:49.030
things, right? Yeah. So, you've just
00:36:49.040 --> 00:36:51.030
made all of the things that you bought
00:36:51.040 --> 00:36:53.750
more expensive. Mhm. And I was like, and
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:56.190
that's that's really
00:36:56.200 --> 00:36:59.030
assuming that the companies bring the
00:36:59.040 --> 00:37:01.390
stuff back because let's say the
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.790
company spends, you know, 3, four, 5
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:06.150
years from now or whatever, brings the
00:37:06.160 --> 00:37:07.710
manufacturing
00:37:07.720 --> 00:37:10.310
back. Do you want to go work for 15
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.270
hours in a manufacturing job for $15 an
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.829
hour? No, I'm not going to do that.
00:37:15.839 --> 00:37:17.310
Would you do it for
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:19.390
17? No.
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.870
I No. No, you're not. And and that's
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:24.150
currently actually the problem that we
00:37:24.160 --> 00:37:26.750
have is we have 4
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.270
million possible employees and we have
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.910
six million jobs now. We're still we're
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:33.670
still 2 million people employees short
00:37:33.680 --> 00:37:35.910
of filling the jobs that we have. Yep.
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:37.670
If we forced everybody that we have into
00:37:37.680 --> 00:37:40.870
a job. Mhm. And so if we brought more
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.829
jobs that nobody's going to work, who's
00:37:43.839 --> 00:37:46.069
going to fill them? And how exactly then
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:49.349
is the stuff going to get made here?
00:37:49.359 --> 00:37:53.270
They just don't think that far ahead.
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:54.790
Like here's the next step too. Okay,
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:56.550
let's say we bring it here and we make
00:37:56.560 --> 00:37:59.109
six million Chryslers. You know, we all
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.349
we have if the American people can't
00:38:01.359 --> 00:38:02.710
afford to buy the Chryslers, which we
00:38:02.720 --> 00:38:04.069
won't because as you our standard of
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:05.270
living is going down. Our workers are
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:06.790
not going to be able to afford the the
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:08.069
goods they actually are being paid to
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:09.829
manufacture in the system. You think
00:38:09.839 --> 00:38:11.030
China's going to buy 6 million
00:38:11.040 --> 00:38:13.430
Chryslers? You think Japan is lining up?
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:14.870
You think Germany is going to buy our
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.109
Chryslers? We are literally about to be
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:19.030
isolated. Yeah. By the time we get
00:38:19.040 --> 00:38:21.670
anything manufactured here, by the time
00:38:21.680 --> 00:38:24.310
we bring that back, China and the other
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:26.950
major global economic powers will have
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:28.630
worked their supply chains completely
00:38:28.640 --> 00:38:31.750
around our dumb asses. Y um and we will
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:33.990
be cut off and shortly afterwards we
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:38.150
will stop being the uh world currency
00:38:38.160 --> 00:38:40.069
and the value of the dollar will plummet
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:42.310
and then we'll see inflation like we
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.230
haven't seen for real. I mean, we're
00:38:44.240 --> 00:38:45.589
already I mean, right now they're
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.030
already they're shorting the market on
00:38:47.040 --> 00:38:50.069
purpose. So, I mean, this like all of
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.470
this is insider trading going on, but
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:54.790
now the bond market y'all saw was down
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:57.270
and see the bond that's listen. The
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.190
stock market, whatever. I don't play the
00:38:59.200 --> 00:39:01.349
stock market. Most Americans do not have
00:39:01.359 --> 00:39:05.670
the kind of money to to to buy buy as
00:39:05.680 --> 00:39:08.550
they're, you know, orange Cheeto. Like
00:39:08.560 --> 00:39:10.150
the most Americans don't have that kind
00:39:10.160 --> 00:39:12.310
of capital just laying around to go buy
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:13.670
stocks, right? Okay, we don't play in
00:39:13.680 --> 00:39:16.470
the stock market. So, but the bond
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:17.910
market, y'all, that's what that's our
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:20.390
our our mortgage loans. I mean, that's
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:22.069
the stability. That's what people in
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:23.990
when they're scared. They go to the
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.310
bond. The bond stays stable because the
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:28.069
bond stays stable. The bond's not
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:32.069
stable. So, all these crypto bros and
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.710
all these like wannabe day traders
00:39:34.720 --> 00:39:37.430
working off Robin Hood and [ __ ] thinking
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:39.030
that they're like getting something.
00:39:39.040 --> 00:39:40.390
Yeah. Like, yeah. You might have taken
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.630
$100,000 and turned it into 21 million
00:39:42.640 --> 00:39:45.349
yesterday. Yeah. But guess what? You're
00:39:45.359 --> 00:39:47.430
going to be that it's not going to mean
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:48.470
you're not going to be able to wipe your
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:50.470
ass with that. Yeah. China's been
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.510
looking for the opportunity to push
00:39:53.520 --> 00:39:56.069
America out of being the world reserve
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:59.030
currency for I mean a long time, but
00:39:59.040 --> 00:40:02.390
real hard since about 2012 somewhere
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:04.870
around there. Yep. Um and he will short
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:08.069
the end and we just gave them the best
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.550
shot they'll ever have at it. Yep. Once
00:40:10.560 --> 00:40:13.910
once we've isolated ourselves and the
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.550
dollar has plunged enough,
00:40:16.560 --> 00:40:19.030
we've pissed off enough of our our trade
00:40:19.040 --> 00:40:22.150
partners, they'll be happy to go ahead
00:40:22.160 --> 00:40:24.790
and and switch it to the euro or
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:26.430
something else. Yep.
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:29.109
Um, I'm I'm sure the UK would love to
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:30.310
because they were the world reserve
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:33.109
currency before and go back to the 1950s
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:34.630
or whatever when it switched and see
00:40:34.640 --> 00:40:37.030
just 30s, something like that. They had
00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:39.030
a huge I mean it was it was rough for
00:40:39.040 --> 00:40:42.550
them. Yeah. And it'll be worse for us.
00:40:42.560 --> 00:40:44.710
Yep. Oh, worse for us now because
00:40:44.720 --> 00:40:46.550
imagine look at like the inflation like
00:40:46.560 --> 00:40:48.069
how much like you know what I'm saying?
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:50.310
Like just the dollars today and ju just
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.470
the increase in population since then.
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.790
It'll be worse. It'll be so much worse
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.829
for us. And so this is I mean it s I
00:40:57.839 --> 00:41:00.309
mean I'm like so doomsday right now. But
00:41:00.319 --> 00:41:03.750
but if that happens the the dollar will
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:06.670
become worth nothing overnight.
00:41:06.680 --> 00:41:11.349
Yeah. So that's kind of where we are.
00:41:11.359 --> 00:41:13.670
It's I mean there's just so much about
00:41:13.680 --> 00:41:16.710
this and what's going on like it it's
00:41:16.720 --> 00:41:18.790
the we haven't even touched the insider
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.589
trading piece of this um from our from
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:22.950
Congress and like what they're doing
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:24.550
from the stock market. don't even have
00:41:24.560 --> 00:41:26.150
time for that. Will have to be another
00:41:26.160 --> 00:41:30.550
day. But um it's it's very scary like
00:41:30.560 --> 00:41:33.510
you know uh right now for a lot of
00:41:33.520 --> 00:41:35.990
people as a small business owner myself.
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.150
I you know this roller coaster of
00:41:38.160 --> 00:41:41.030
tariffs is very difficult because you
00:41:41.040 --> 00:41:45.190
know I can't like I mean I guess I can
00:41:45.200 --> 00:41:47.190
like I'm planning some trying to
00:41:47.200 --> 00:41:51.150
basically you know put capital into
00:41:51.160 --> 00:41:54.470
buying and and holding on to stock but
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:58.790
then you know what happens if something
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.150
really does happen and then people just
00:42:00.160 --> 00:42:01.589
aren't buying not just buying because we
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:03.270
haven't even raised prices but just
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:05.109
because people are like oh my god we
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:06.950
just have the like we just can't spend.
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.470
I mean my husband and I are even slowing
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.630
down discretionary spending a lot. Same.
00:42:10.640 --> 00:42:12.309
So I mean I think everybody's starting
00:42:12.319 --> 00:42:15.430
to do that and and this I mean even I
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:18.630
shared on my TikTok um this video with
00:42:18.640 --> 00:42:21.190
Laura Ingraham or Ingram or whatever
00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:23.510
from Fox News and like do you see that
00:42:23.520 --> 00:42:25.190
that like they're starting to get it?
00:42:25.200 --> 00:42:27.670
They're like oh [ __ ] we're about to
00:42:27.680 --> 00:42:30.150
collapse the middle class. Oh my god
00:42:30.160 --> 00:42:31.750
it's going to be nothing. We're we're
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:33.430
going to be like Greece like nothing.
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:35.510
like it at one time yours I mean it's I
00:42:35.520 --> 00:42:36.630
don't think it's like this as much
00:42:36.640 --> 00:42:39.470
anymore but like
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.470
peasants and
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:45.829
ultra wealthy Philippines same thing
00:42:45.839 --> 00:42:50.069
peasant dirt poor or very very wealthy
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:51.910
with you've got you know a whole staff
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:53.510
working for you and you don't you don't
00:42:53.520 --> 00:42:55.270
even drive yourself anywhere that is
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:58.390
what America's going to turn into and so
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.990
but the bulk of us are going to be
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.829
poor so that that's that. But we do have
00:43:05.839 --> 00:43:07.670
something that we do need to just touch
00:43:07.680 --> 00:43:10.430
on and talk about I think just for
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:13.750
our you know Yes. Um I know we are
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:15.109
talking about some pretty heavy stuff
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:16.790
right now and a little bit of a dark uh
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:18.630
turn because let's we are amidst
00:43:18.640 --> 00:43:20.390
darkness right now. We are in a dark
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:22.630
time. Um but there are some other things
00:43:22.640 --> 00:43:23.990
going on in Virginia Beach that are
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:25.990
incredibly sad. And if you have been
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:27.670
following the Kais Coalition uh on any
00:43:27.680 --> 00:43:29.109
of our socials, you may have seen the
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:30.630
public statement we put out about Norah
00:43:30.640 --> 00:43:33.670
Horitz. Um Nora was a transwoman who
00:43:33.680 --> 00:43:35.430
lived here in Virginia Beach. Uh she was
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.470
38 years old and unfortunately um this
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.870
past Sunday uh evening uh while she was
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:42.390
being held in custody at the Virginia
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.710
Beach Sheriff uh the Virginia Beach jail
00:43:44.720 --> 00:43:45.910
uh under the custody of the Virginia
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:47.990
Beach Sheriff's Office. Um she uh
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.950
unalived herself. Um this is a tragedy
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:52.630
for the trans community. It's a tragedy
00:43:52.640 --> 00:43:55.270
for the community of Virginia Beach. Um,
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:57.750
there are lots of factors that go into
00:43:57.760 --> 00:43:59.430
this, but one of the things that I think
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:01.349
sticks out most to me is that she was a
00:44:01.359 --> 00:44:03.270
transwoman who was being held in a men's
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:05.670
prison, in a men's facility. Um, that
00:44:05.680 --> 00:44:08.630
she had been there for 22 months, that
00:44:08.640 --> 00:44:11.589
there were lots of ongoing questions
00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:13.270
that were that were undergurted her
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:14.710
trial and a lot of different issues that
00:44:14.720 --> 00:44:16.829
were going on.
00:44:16.839 --> 00:44:20.230
And I feel strongly that our community
00:44:20.240 --> 00:44:22.630
has failed her, that has failed justice
00:44:22.640 --> 00:44:24.470
in this particular instance. not because
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:25.990
she took her life, but because we
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:28.309
allowed her to sit there for so long and
00:44:28.319 --> 00:44:30.950
also because we weren't able to get to a
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:32.790
resolution that would get her the mental
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.230
health um services that she needed
00:44:35.240 --> 00:44:37.510
today. Um I understand there were
00:44:37.520 --> 00:44:39.589
discussions about ways to get uh
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:42.550
additional help, but there were uh
00:44:42.560 --> 00:44:44.309
circumstances related to assault. There
00:44:44.319 --> 00:44:46.230
were circumstances related to familial
00:44:46.240 --> 00:44:48.710
abuse and other uh sexual abuse and
00:44:48.720 --> 00:44:51.670
things that to take someone like that to
00:44:51.680 --> 00:44:53.990
take someone who is telling the court
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:56.270
that's telling the public I am a
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.030
survivor I have survived and then to
00:44:59.040 --> 00:45:00.870
take that that woman and put her in a
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:03.750
men's facility and lock her there for 22
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:06.069
months is an incredible trauma and
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:07.589
incredibly difficult thing to go through
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.670
for any human being and I wish
00:45:10.680 --> 00:45:14.150
that the powers that
00:45:14.160 --> 00:45:16.309
had more compassion for her in this
00:45:16.319 --> 00:45:18.470
particular instance because regardless
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:20.309
of justice, regardless of what's right
00:45:20.319 --> 00:45:22.710
or wrong, a little more compassion, a
00:45:22.720 --> 00:45:25.270
little bit more being able to show up
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:27.030
for for trans andgender non-conforming
00:45:27.040 --> 00:45:29.750
people uh could have made a difference.
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:31.630
It it could have
00:45:31.640 --> 00:45:34.309
been different. And I don't know if it
00:45:34.319 --> 00:45:36.390
means we could have stopped the tragedy
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.150
of the initial crime or we could have
00:45:38.160 --> 00:45:39.910
stopped the tragedy of her unaliving
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:41.349
herself. But I do know that we could
00:45:41.359 --> 00:45:44.230
have been there in a more holistic way.
00:45:44.240 --> 00:45:49.910
But yeah, I know it's very sad. Um and
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.870
you know, we had just gone to the jail
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:54.550
and had a meeting, you know, with
00:45:54.560 --> 00:45:56.670
Sheriff Hulcom
00:45:56.680 --> 00:45:58.750
and
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:03.750
um had just been talking about Nora. Um,
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:07.750
but you know, and and I had not even
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:12.230
realized that that much time had gone by
00:46:12.240 --> 00:46:14.550
since
00:46:14.560 --> 00:46:18.790
since she was arrested. Um, and so I um
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.030
I haven't bothered to look at the press
00:46:21.040 --> 00:46:23.190
because on social media because I just
00:46:23.200 --> 00:46:25.950
can't handle like I just know that the
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:29.190
comments from the public would be like
00:46:29.200 --> 00:46:31.670
way too triggering.
00:46:31.680 --> 00:46:34.390
Um, so I haven't, you know, I haven't
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:38.390
gone to I just haven't gone to look.
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.790
I think what is important now is that as
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:42.870
a community we call for an independent
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:44.870
investigation. I think that's Yeah, I
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:46.950
think that there's going to be the
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:49.829
impulse to sweep this under the rug to
00:46:49.839 --> 00:46:52.230
make this as this is an an unfortunate
00:46:52.240 --> 00:46:54.150
situation or circumstance to put the
00:46:54.160 --> 00:46:57.589
blame upon her alone. um when I I I
00:46:57.599 --> 00:46:58.870
think that what we really need to do is
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.550
take an accounting of how we handle
00:47:00.560 --> 00:47:02.150
these circumstances because as we were
00:47:02.160 --> 00:47:04.230
discussing with Rocky, there are four to
00:47:04.240 --> 00:47:06.630
four to 6,000 trans people that live in
00:47:06.640 --> 00:47:08.870
Virginia Beach. Um if we're going to
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:11.349
have a Virginia Beach jail, then we need
00:47:11.359 --> 00:47:13.270
to have systems in place that can better
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.510
accommodate for these circumstances, not
00:47:15.520 --> 00:47:17.710
just because of Nora, but because of the
00:47:17.720 --> 00:47:20.470
incredible diversity of trans people and
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:21.910
gendering and all the different needs
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:23.589
that we have. One of the things that we
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:25.270
found out is that the Virginia Beach
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:27.750
Jail um is, and this is a statewide
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:29.109
policy, something that Rocky couldn't
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:30.790
do, is not actually keeping their
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:32.309
pharmacy covered things like hormone
00:47:32.319 --> 00:47:33.510
replacement therapy, estrogen,
00:47:33.520 --> 00:47:35.270
testosterone, progesterone, secondary
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:36.710
tertiary medications that are associated
00:47:36.720 --> 00:47:39.109
with that, androgen blockers and so on.
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:40.870
um these things are not currently
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:42.230
available and the only way that they can
00:47:42.240 --> 00:47:43.510
be made available is if at the state
00:47:43.520 --> 00:47:44.950
level they actually authorize those
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:46.230
sorts of things and then they can be
00:47:46.240 --> 00:47:47.510
made available and then they can
00:47:47.520 --> 00:47:49.750
actually be there for trans inmates and
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:51.030
those folks not just here at Virginia
00:47:51.040 --> 00:47:52.710
Beach Jail and but all across all
00:47:52.720 --> 00:47:54.230
regional and city jails across the state
00:47:54.240 --> 00:47:56.470
of Virginia. So what we were doing um
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:58.069
and I feel I wish there was some way
00:47:58.079 --> 00:47:59.430
that I could go back in time and let
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.030
Nora that know that there were people
00:48:01.040 --> 00:48:03.589
that cared. I I wish that that day we
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:04.870
had been able to walk into the jails,
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:06.630
hey, can we go see Nora? But that wasn't
00:48:06.640 --> 00:48:07.910
an opportunity. that wasn't something
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:12.470
that I that we could do. And I hope that
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:14.630
regardless of the specifics of this in
00:48:14.640 --> 00:48:16.910
this incident, we can focus
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:19.510
on advocating in the future to make sure
00:48:19.520 --> 00:48:21.670
that trans people are not incarcerated
00:48:21.680 --> 00:48:23.190
in a way that they are denied health
00:48:23.200 --> 00:48:26.150
care where they are at risk of sexual if
00:48:26.160 --> 00:48:27.270
they have not already been sexually
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:28.950
assaulted and they are not getting the
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:31.109
care that they need. Um, we can talk
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:32.549
about mental health care. We can talk
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:34.230
about the specific gender affirming
00:48:34.240 --> 00:48:35.510
care, medicines, those sorts of things
00:48:35.520 --> 00:48:37.430
that are being denied. But when it's all
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:39.829
taken in some being left to sit in a
00:48:39.839 --> 00:48:42.870
men's facility, all it becomes a larger
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.510
picture of the systemic failure that so
00:48:45.520 --> 00:48:47.270
many trans people face in the caral
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.990
system, in the caral state, and I know
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:51.670
we can do better here in our city. I
00:48:51.680 --> 00:48:53.750
know we can do better in the state. I
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:55.589
hope that uh our governor candidate like
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:58.069
Abigail Spamberger, I hope that when
00:48:58.079 --> 00:48:59.990
they get when they win when when you
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.230
win, Abigail, that you appoint people to
00:49:02.240 --> 00:49:04.950
the board of of regional jails that will
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:07.430
actually be able to sit down and analyze
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.349
this with community with different uh
00:49:09.359 --> 00:49:11.430
medical adviserss and folks and vote to
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:12.950
make sure that all of the life-saving
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:14.710
and necessary medications are available
00:49:14.720 --> 00:49:16.470
to our inmates at all times. That's one
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:17.829
of the big things. Uh there are other
00:49:17.839 --> 00:49:19.670
larger battles here at play. things
00:49:19.680 --> 00:49:21.270
about Priya, the prison reform and
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:23.190
elimination act, the way in which we
00:49:23.200 --> 00:49:24.870
house and the way in which we treat
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:26.470
prisoners, some of that intersects
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.150
federal and state and local ordinance
00:49:28.160 --> 00:49:30.069
and laws. But when it comes to just our
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.069
local and state level, what can Virginia
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:33.829
do? What can Virginia Beach do? What can
00:49:33.839 --> 00:49:36.230
our city council do? We can pull we can
00:49:36.240 --> 00:49:38.710
do a proper investigation, we can ask
00:49:38.720 --> 00:49:40.790
all the questions about reports of of
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:42.309
issues that she was having in the in the
00:49:42.319 --> 00:49:43.990
prison, about mental health issues or
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.069
other lacks, other other requests that
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:48.950
were made. um even through things as
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:50.549
simple as commissary so we understand a
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.309
larger picture of what her life was like
00:49:52.319 --> 00:49:54.870
and then also provide better for our
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:57.030
trans inmates because regardless of
00:49:57.040 --> 00:49:58.910
whether or not trans
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:01.430
people break laws or not, we still
00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:02.790
should be accommodated in all public
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:06.150
accommodations. Correct. Yeah. No, 100%.
00:50:06.160 --> 00:50:07.950
And
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:11.510
um you my little bills were going off in
00:50:11.520 --> 00:50:14.230
my head about the state at a state level
00:50:14.240 --> 00:50:19.510
for um allowing having a a bill put
00:50:19.520 --> 00:50:22.309
together that allows for HRT and things
00:50:22.319 --> 00:50:24.270
like that to actually be included. Like
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.750
hello, I know some folks I believe after
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:28.870
talking with a couple different
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:30.790
advocates and I'm not 100% sure on this
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:32.790
that we wouldn't even need a p a bill
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:34.390
that there is currently a board that's
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:36.069
empowered. And this is what Rocky was
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:37.670
talking about. He and the the people at
00:50:37.680 --> 00:50:39.190
the jail can't make this determination,
00:50:39.200 --> 00:50:41.750
but the board of regional jails actually
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:43.829
meets once a month. They're the ones
00:50:43.839 --> 00:50:45.670
that can vote and pass on what will or
00:50:45.680 --> 00:50:47.190
will not be within that pharmacy
00:50:47.200 --> 00:50:48.630
schedule or what will or won't be in
00:50:48.640 --> 00:50:50.069
certain policies and how they interpret
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.870
it policies. So, we could advocate
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:54.710
we could advocate to this board to the
00:50:54.720 --> 00:50:57.510
board. Right now, I where I got stuck on
00:50:57.520 --> 00:50:59.030
and this is something that I have not
00:50:59.040 --> 00:51:00.870
been able to confirm is the makeup of
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:02.150
that board, the political leaning of
00:51:02.160 --> 00:51:03.430
that board. I was going to say it's
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:05.270
going to be so typically like
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:06.710
appointments I have we'll have to look
00:51:06.720 --> 00:51:08.950
at the appointments but if the
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.349
appointments are
00:51:12.359 --> 00:51:14.549
so it it could be a couple different
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:15.870
ways
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:19.349
but the regional I mean it could be like
00:51:19.359 --> 00:51:21.030
gubanatorial appointments all of them
00:51:21.040 --> 00:51:23.270
are appointed but the governor is not
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:27.030
going to know like oh like he that
00:51:27.040 --> 00:51:28.710
information comes from like political
00:51:28.720 --> 00:51:30.710
discourse within their party right and
00:51:30.720 --> 00:51:32.790
then and recommendations from other like
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:34.390
people in legislature typically.
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:35.829
Exactly. And this is where I'm calling
00:51:35.839 --> 00:51:37.829
on Abigail Spamberger because if Abigail
00:51:37.839 --> 00:51:39.270
is is successful and I know that she
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:41.670
will be to win the governorship, they
00:51:41.680 --> 00:51:43.430
are the person that that that will be
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:44.630
invested with power through our state
00:51:44.640 --> 00:51:46.309
constitution and let to put people on
00:51:46.319 --> 00:51:48.470
that board. So regardless of the makeup
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:50.309
today where if it's split or not, what
00:51:50.319 --> 00:51:51.750
we really want to impress to the trans
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:53.349
and queer community is the importance of
00:51:53.359 --> 00:51:55.990
elections in so many small and myriad of
00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:58.230
ways such as who are we going to put on
00:51:58.240 --> 00:51:59.670
these boards, who is going to be on the
00:51:59.680 --> 00:52:01.030
oversight committee, who is going to be
00:52:01.040 --> 00:52:03.190
in these positions of power. And when we
00:52:03.200 --> 00:52:04.870
That's a great point. When we find
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:07.030
specific sites of resistance, specific
00:52:07.040 --> 00:52:08.950
things that we can advocate for, that's
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.270
where I want to drill in right now. Um I
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:14.150
don't know how to always show up. I've
00:52:14.160 --> 00:52:15.670
show up as much as I can and I need to
00:52:15.680 --> 00:52:16.950
show up more and I want everyone
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:18.710
listening to show up more. But I think
00:52:18.720 --> 00:52:20.630
also we must begin to ask ourselves
00:52:20.640 --> 00:52:23.270
questions about where do we show up and
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:25.589
how effective is that going to be in
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:29.270
showing up. And I very much want our
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:30.710
state and our representatives and the
00:52:30.720 --> 00:52:32.150
people empowered represented us to
00:52:32.160 --> 00:52:33.910
actually listen and sometimes I don't
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:35.589
think our voices get to their ears in
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:37.190
the same way. And sometimes they do get
00:52:37.200 --> 00:52:38.870
to their ears but their ears are deaf.
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:40.309
And we need to be thinking about this as
00:52:40.319 --> 00:52:43.750
a year over year uh over decades over a
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:46.069
generation of a war of a fight because
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:47.430
the people we're up against, the people
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:48.630
who are pushing this stuff, the people
00:52:48.640 --> 00:52:51.510
that rep repealed row are sitting for
00:52:51.520 --> 00:52:53.190
decades of a battle to fight these
00:52:53.200 --> 00:52:54.950
things and we have to meet and exceed
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:57.109
that energy. Oh yeah, I think that's
00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:58.270
where
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:03.309
we the reasons why we have more people
00:53:03.319 --> 00:53:06.230
incarcerated than any other country and
00:53:06.240 --> 00:53:09.030
things like that. Those are reasons that
00:53:09.040 --> 00:53:11.990
have been happening for hundred years.
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:16.390
Oh yeah. And so you know there's so many
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:17.630
tiny
00:53:17.640 --> 00:53:20.670
knots that need to be
00:53:20.680 --> 00:53:24.069
undone before you know we really cuz
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:25.430
that's the thing is you know we have a
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:27.790
society we focus on
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:29.589
incarceration. We don't focus on
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:30.950
rehabilitation. Rehabilitation. That's
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:33.270
right. um we the larger conversation
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:35.109
about about abolition gets lost when we
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:36.950
get into these very small procedural
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:38.470
arguments. So I can get why a lot of
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:39.670
people are like let us fight for
00:53:39.680 --> 00:53:41.190
abolition because that's the real
00:53:41.200 --> 00:53:42.950
battle. That's the real heart. But
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:44.390
regardless I think that there is an
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:46.549
amelioration of harm that can affect
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:48.710
lives and people today over the course
00:53:48.720 --> 00:53:50.230
and there's a vast I don't think it's
00:53:50.240 --> 00:53:51.630
either
00:53:51.640 --> 00:53:53.990
or that's exactly it. It's not it's not
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:56.069
either or. It need it needs to be both
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:57.990
and the small things need to happen
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:01.270
because if we're being real it'll
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.230
Some of a lot of these people, a lot of
00:54:04.240 --> 00:54:05.309
people in
00:54:05.319 --> 00:54:08.710
leadership, a lot of people in America,
00:54:08.720 --> 00:54:11.990
it's a big mental leap still for them to
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.750
make that connection to, hey, do you
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:17.910
really think that Americans just commit
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:20.829
more crimes than everybody
00:54:20.839 --> 00:54:24.470
else? Or do you think maybe there's
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.150
something wrong with the fact that we
00:54:26.160 --> 00:54:28.230
incarcerate people at a higher rate than
00:54:28.240 --> 00:54:30.430
anybody else?
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:33.589
Um, you know, but being able to admit
00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:36.790
that as Americans, we have, you know,
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:39.230
we're so eager to point out
00:54:39.240 --> 00:54:43.030
how North Korea has propagandedized
00:54:43.040 --> 00:54:45.030
their whole people and and all of these
00:54:45.040 --> 00:54:47.109
other countries, Donald Trump having a
00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:49.589
[ __ ] military parade, brainwashed
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:51.230
people, and all of that sort of stuff
00:54:51.240 --> 00:54:54.309
that and and maybe it's just that
00:54:54.319 --> 00:54:56.150
American pride or whatever you want to
00:54:56.160 --> 00:54:59.270
say, but we do not acknowledge
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:01.910
how we have been brainwashed into
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:04.069
accepting and supporting things that
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:06.630
just make no damn sense at all. Yeah.
00:55:06.640 --> 00:55:08.309
Like the jails and the police and the
00:55:08.319 --> 00:55:09.750
prisons and the sheriffs and all the
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:11.430
different I mean we're paying six figure
00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:12.950
salaries, millions of dollar tens of
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:13.750
millions of dollars for all these
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:14.870
different facilities every single month
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:16.549
a week. We could just be, I don't know,
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:18.630
providing food, healthare. We could be
00:55:18.640 --> 00:55:20.309
alleviating poverty directly, creating
00:55:20.319 --> 00:55:21.750
sorts of things that actually get to the
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:24.309
primary source of of criminal that p
00:55:24.319 --> 00:55:26.309
push people into situations criminality.
00:55:26.319 --> 00:55:27.750
And then we could be putting what the
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:29.109
excess that's remained beyond that
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:30.630
because there would be excess within the
00:55:30.640 --> 00:55:32.630
police incarcereral state towards proper
00:55:32.640 --> 00:55:34.390
rehabilitation facilities that are
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:36.150
compassionate. And that's the sort of
00:55:36.160 --> 00:55:37.750
abolition that that's the we talk about
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:40.349
real policy solution. If you focus on
00:55:40.359 --> 00:55:43.270
rehabilitation and addressing poverty
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:46.470
Mhm. you would have not only a lot less
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:48.670
crime but a whole lot less people in
00:55:48.680 --> 00:55:51.109
prison. You wouldn't have over you
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:53.109
wouldn't have an overpop populated
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:55.270
prison and jail in every single city in
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:57.190
the country. Yeah, you know, instead
00:55:57.200 --> 00:55:58.950
like I, you know, I often, you know, I
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:01.510
say I'm a communist, but like I really I
00:56:01.520 --> 00:56:03.230
think it's more I'm more of an
00:56:03.240 --> 00:56:06.069
abolitionist. I believe with the like
00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:07.990
what we're saying, I believe with the
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:11.030
abolition of the caral system with, you
00:56:11.040 --> 00:56:15.470
know, um, uh, essentially reducing
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:18.870
poverty, all of these things will bring
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:21.870
us to a much better
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:23.789
society.
00:56:23.799 --> 00:56:27.510
and just the the the conservative side
00:56:27.520 --> 00:56:30.190
to be so
00:56:30.200 --> 00:56:34.950
narrowly focused. Yeah. No, it it it you
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:36.870
and that's the thing is like people want
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:39.990
to talk about um you know I go back to
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:41.430
this. I remember that old Tik Tok, how
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:44.150
often do you think about Rome? I I think
00:56:44.160 --> 00:56:45.829
about Rome when I'm talking with idiots,
00:56:45.839 --> 00:56:48.030
but
00:56:48.040 --> 00:56:50.789
um and that and and that's because of
00:56:50.799 --> 00:56:53.750
the way they think about Rome. Mhm. And
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:56.150
and the way they they they think about
00:56:56.160 --> 00:56:59.670
the the way society is is modeled or not
00:56:59.680 --> 00:57:01.030
really modeled after what it was. You
00:57:01.040 --> 00:57:03.510
know, the beginning of Rome, do you know
00:57:03.520 --> 00:57:08.390
how you garnished favor?
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:10.549
It wasn't, you know, all of these
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:12.470
different little rulers in Rome and all
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:14.470
of that, they were more or less equal
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:16.390
and more or less equal wealth and all of
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:17.910
that sort of stuff. The way they
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:20.870
separated themselves was by doing good
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.750
things for the people.
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:26.390
M
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:29.190
and then as that changed
00:57:29.200 --> 00:57:32.309
and it became more about wealth as Rome
00:57:32.319 --> 00:57:34.390
spread and took wealth from other
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:36.069
countries and other places that they
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:39.030
conquered and the wealth inequality gap
00:57:39.040 --> 00:57:41.030
grew
00:57:41.040 --> 00:57:43.510
right that is when Rome began to fall
00:57:43.520 --> 00:57:45.670
apart. Well, yeah. Because when you have
00:57:45.680 --> 00:57:49.510
a giant wealth gap, that is when society
00:57:49.520 --> 00:57:51.549
collapses. You cannot have
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:55.109
empathy. You cannot have a desire to
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:56.589
truly improve
00:57:56.599 --> 00:58:00.270
society. You cannot have
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:05.309
um really any
00:58:05.319 --> 00:58:10.309
actual, you know, feelings of affection
00:58:10.319 --> 00:58:13.190
for your community and neighbors
00:58:13.200 --> 00:58:17.150
and be a billionaire. No, those are not
00:58:17.160 --> 00:58:19.470
possibilities. If you have, if you're a
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:21.589
billionaire, if you're a billionaire and
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:22.950
there's somebody that didn't eat dinner
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:25.789
in your city because it wasn't
00:58:25.799 --> 00:58:27.990
available, if you're a billionaire and
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:29.990
there's a homeless person in your city
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:31.510
because there's not an available place
00:58:31.520 --> 00:58:33.430
for them to stay and you went to bed
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:35.470
with billions of dollars
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:38.069
tonight, you're not a good person.
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.390
That's right. I I don't I don't care how
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:43.109
how much you've been adored. I don't
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.430
care what it is you invented or what it
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:49.710
is you sold or what TV show you
00:58:49.720 --> 00:58:52.549
made. If you're a billionaire, if you go
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:55.630
to bed a billionaire
00:58:55.640 --> 00:58:58.789
tonight with starving children and
00:58:58.799 --> 00:59:01.069
homeless people in your
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.789
country, you have no heart, no empathy,
00:59:04.799 --> 00:59:07.510
and you are not a good person. Period.
00:59:07.520 --> 00:59:10.150
There there's just no way to do both.
00:59:10.160 --> 00:59:11.510
There's no way to do both. That's right.
00:59:11.520 --> 00:59:13.829
And the thing about wealth is that you
00:59:13.839 --> 00:59:16.230
only get it by accumulating it and not
00:59:16.240 --> 00:59:18.390
spending it. the thing like there's how
00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:20.390
else do you become wealthy other than
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:22.230
backs of well yes we could always talk
00:59:22.240 --> 00:59:23.510
about the exploitation of labor and all
00:59:23.520 --> 00:59:25.190
sorts of things ways that that mass is
00:59:25.200 --> 00:59:26.710
that they set up the exploitation to
00:59:26.720 --> 00:59:28.390
accumulate that but the only way in
00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:31.030
which we because we could talk about
00:59:31.040 --> 00:59:33.109
systems the e the the efficacy of those
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:34.390
systems but if you have a billion
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:36.309
dollars you have a billion dollars you
00:59:36.319 --> 00:59:38.309
can give it away it's very easy and the
00:59:38.319 --> 00:59:39.430
reason why I bring this up is because I
00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:40.950
go to Bill Gates all the time when he
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:42.309
stepped down from Microsoft he came out
00:59:42.319 --> 00:59:43.349
with the Bill and Melinda Gates
00:59:43.359 --> 00:59:45.109
Foundation who's worth like 800 million
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:46.630
700 million and he said I'm going I'm
00:59:46.640 --> 00:59:47.910
going to spend the rest of my life
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.150
giving away all of my money. That's my
00:59:50.160 --> 00:59:52.950
job. My mission now is to give away all
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:54.549
my money. Okay? And that's and this is
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:55.910
the context of is there such thing as a
00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:57.990
good billionaire? Okay.
00:59:58.000 --> 00:59:59.510
Bill Gates is worth how many billions
00:59:59.520 --> 01:00:02.069
now? Literally, it's like the more money
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like they they're like we're going to
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give away all this money, but how are
01:00:05.200 --> 01:00:07.270
you getting richer? And but you could
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:08.390
talk about stock. We could talk about
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all that, but that comes down to the
01:00:09.680 --> 01:00:10.789
other part of this conversation, which
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is the unequ unequitable systems that
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undergur the entire economy, the ways in
01:00:15.359 --> 01:00:17.190
which the the capitalized and the owners
01:00:17.200 --> 01:00:18.870
of the the real true owners of the means
01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:20.390
of production, the people who own Black
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:21.670
Rockck and Smart Street and all the
01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:22.870
different stockholders and the different
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:24.630
investment companies and and the way in
01:00:24.640 --> 01:00:26.549
which seated amidst there is the middle
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:27.829
class getting their little pensions and
01:00:27.839 --> 01:00:29.190
their things within all that. That's a
01:00:29.200 --> 01:00:31.270
myth of how we're all just engaging in
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:32.789
an economy when we're all actually
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capitulating through owners. I think
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:37.430
that still proves my point though is
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:39.589
it's great that he decided to give all
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:41.510
his money away but he didn't. That's my
01:00:41.520 --> 01:00:43.829
exactly that absolutely didn't. He just
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I am going to make myself look like a
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:48.390
good person. Yep. Mhm. While I still
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:50.950
could have done exponentially more.
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:54.069
Absolutely. Without any detriment to
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myself whatsoever. Yes. Correct. I'd
01:00:57.040 --> 01:00:59.270
still be able to have every single thing
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:01.670
I've ever wanted in life. My kids would
01:01:01.680 --> 01:01:03.190
have everything that they could possibly
01:01:03.200 --> 01:01:04.950
need. my friends and family and the
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:06.470
people around me immediately would not
01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:09.190
have they and then still I could pay
01:01:09.200 --> 01:01:11.190
people to go get in food carts and
01:01:11.200 --> 01:01:12.789
trucks and go feed every single person
01:01:12.799 --> 01:01:14.069
in my city and it wouldn't be a big
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:15.750
deal. Remember Elon Musk came out and he
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:16.870
said, "How much would it be to end world
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:18.789
hunger?" Was it what he say? 45 46
01:01:18.799 --> 01:01:20.230
billion. How much are you worth today,
01:01:20.240 --> 01:01:22.710
Elon? Is it 400 billion? Why haven't you
01:01:22.720 --> 01:01:24.789
done it? Right. Exactly. Why haven't you
01:01:24.799 --> 01:01:27.270
Why? Yeah, just do it. Just do it. Just
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:28.950
do it. Oh, wait. You bought Twitter so
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:30.230
that you could you could you could you
01:01:30.240 --> 01:01:34.190
know manipulate the public and be a king
01:01:34.200 --> 01:01:36.630
propagandist. If you really wanted to
01:01:36.640 --> 01:01:40.309
prove to me that Elon if Elon who's
01:01:40.319 --> 01:01:42.630
never going to listen to this but hey
01:01:42.640 --> 01:01:45.270
maybe right Elon Musk if you ever wanted
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.910
to actually prove to me that you were a
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:48.670
good
01:01:48.680 --> 01:01:52.549
person then then solve world hunger. He
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:54.390
said he'd do it. He said he'd do it. He
01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:57.270
can do it. Mhm. So do it. And if we're
01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:58.069
going to have any defense of
01:01:58.079 --> 01:01:59.270
billionaires, if there's even such thing
01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:01.030
as a little bit of good justification,
01:02:01.040 --> 01:02:02.470
even a tiny little shade of a reason,
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:04.069
there's they have all these resources to
01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:05.589
do things that governments, individuals
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:06.549
just couldn't do without this
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.150
accumulation of resources. That's what
01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:09.510
one person couldn't do. You could just
01:02:09.520 --> 01:02:11.910
end world hunger, but now you can. So
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:13.190
when are you going to do it? So when are
01:02:13.200 --> 01:02:15.109
you going to do it? Oh, and then like I
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.270
mean and and you have Elon literally
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:20.230
making what was that $5.6 billion
01:02:20.240 --> 01:02:22.470
contract from uh with Space Force to
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.390
launch Space Force. I mean, he's
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:26.150
literally and there were two other
01:02:26.160 --> 01:02:29.910
biders. He was the highest [ __ ]
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:32.549
bidder and the government went with the
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:35.069
highest bidder and it was Elon
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:38.630
Musk. Like it's they are literally just
01:02:38.640 --> 01:02:42.549
playing in our faces. It is it it's it's
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:44.390
just it's vile. And they're not going to
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:47.030
stop cuz there's still how do they say
01:02:47.040 --> 01:02:50.150
it 50 million people Oh yeah. that that
01:02:50.160 --> 01:02:51.710
are
01:02:51.720 --> 01:02:54.870
just eating it up. They're just too dumb
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.430
to know that that it's Let me tell you
01:02:57.440 --> 01:02:59.589
something. If somebody ever has their
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:01.430
cake and is eating it, too, they're
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:04.710
eating your cake. Wake up.
01:03:04.720 --> 01:03:07.030
Yes. And if they're eating your cake and
01:03:07.040 --> 01:03:09.030
they say, "Well, they're hungry. Let
01:03:09.040 --> 01:03:10.230
them eat cake." That's when the
01:03:10.240 --> 01:03:13.349
guillotines come out. We know this is
01:03:13.359 --> 01:03:15.510
Sorry y'all. We don't make the rules.
01:03:15.520 --> 01:03:17.349
That's just human history. That's right.
01:03:17.359 --> 01:03:18.549
When you look around and wonder what
01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:21.630
happened to your cake. That's right.
01:03:21.640 --> 01:03:24.150
Uh-huh. Okay. Well, sorry about cake
01:03:24.160 --> 01:03:25.990
metaphors, y'all. It just really fit.
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:27.990
And I I wanted to come really back uh
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:29.190
just really quickly to touch on the
01:03:29.200 --> 01:03:30.470
issue when it comes to Nora because
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:33.349
there's some issues that are really
01:03:33.359 --> 01:03:35.750
super local and super uh personal. I've
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:37.510
had a couple people reach out about what
01:03:37.520 --> 01:03:39.109
to do. I think what we need to do right
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:42.150
now is is keep your powder dry. There
01:03:42.160 --> 01:03:43.430
will be things that will be coming in
01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:44.789
ways that we can advocate in the future.
01:03:44.799 --> 01:03:46.150
I hope that you will follow the Kayla's
01:03:46.160 --> 01:03:47.349
coalition because we're going to keep
01:03:47.359 --> 01:03:48.470
trying to find those sites of
01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:49.510
resistance, whether they be state
01:03:49.520 --> 01:03:51.109
boards, whether they be individual
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:53.510
elections. Um, and if you know someone
01:03:53.520 --> 01:03:55.510
else who is trans or uh gender
01:03:55.520 --> 01:03:56.950
non-conforming, who is in any sort of
01:03:56.960 --> 01:03:59.270
prison or jail or in a car stuck in the
01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:00.870
caral system in the state of Virginia,
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:02.069
feel free to reach out so that we can
01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:03.910
put you in contact with our partners.
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:05.349
You may or may not already be in contact
01:04:05.359 --> 01:04:07.029
with different partners so we can get
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:08.789
whatever sort of advocacy we can go for
01:04:08.799 --> 01:04:10.549
the people who need it today. Because
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:11.829
one thing that really is going to stick
01:04:11.839 --> 01:04:13.750
with me for the rest of my life is the
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:16.549
fact that I could have that day gone and
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:17.630
talked to
01:04:17.640 --> 01:04:20.390
her and I wish so badly that I could
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:22.390
have told her regardless of all the
01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:23.990
circumstances that there were people
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:27.270
that cared about her in her city. I
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:28.470
don't know if that would have made a
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:31.029
could have made a difference, but I I
01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:32.230
maybe that's something that you can do
01:04:32.240 --> 01:04:34.309
if you're listening because these these
01:04:34.319 --> 01:04:36.549
are our transibs. These are human beings
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:38.549
and um we can't afford to forget them.
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:39.510
And we also need to show up at
01:04:39.520 --> 01:04:41.029
schoolboard meetings to not forget the
01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:43.109
kids either. But yes, I know they're
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:45.109
well because they're the future. They
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:47.990
are the future. Um and oh god, they
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.990
can't turn out like some of us.
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:55.829
Um so uh anyways, well Cody, you want to
01:04:55.839 --> 01:04:57.990
close us out? Just, you know, our
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.710
message. Keep your resistance strong,
01:05:00.720 --> 01:05:03.390
keep your energy up, keep your joy
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:05.670
strong, right? Because transjoy will
01:05:05.680 --> 01:05:09.270
defeat hate. And um punching a Nazi is
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:11.029
not going to hurt either. That's right.
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:12.710
Drink your water. Take your meds. Take
01:05:12.720 --> 01:05:15.029
care. Bye. Say something kind about
01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:16.710
yourself.
01:05:16.720 --> 01:05:18.390
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