A Softer Shade of Post-

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All right, welcome to Shuffle Repeat.
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I am Zach and I'm in and this is a
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musical exploration podcast. Today's episode is a little something we're
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calling the softer side of early post rock, and it
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does pretty much exactly what it says on the tin.
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I took a look at the early days of post rock,
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picked through basically everything from the first I want to say,
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like five or six years, but it's existence. Everything that
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was a little harsh and experimental, well maybe not experimental
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is not the word harsh and noise driven went on
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a separate list, which I'm sure we'll come up eventually.
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Everything on the softer side of the spectrum went on
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this list. I think my cut off of something like
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ninety six ninety seven. There was definitely a point when
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you look at the charts where you can notice a
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distinct boom, and wherever that point was is where I
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drew my line in the stand to define early. So
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if you're wondering why something isn't here, that might be it.
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Also, I'd hardly say either of us are experts on
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post rock in general.
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So no, not really.
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Both had post metal phases, some lasting longer than others,
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some ongoing yes, some ongoing post rock is something I
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have some experience with, but yeah, as you said, I would,
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I would not call myself an expert by any stretch
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of the imagination. But with that said, I do think
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we managed to dig up some interesting curios. The Big
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Boy is also here, but a lot of this stuff
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I think is still somewhat unknown. So I'm excited to
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dig into it.
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And I am probably gonna.
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Have you dictate most of this episode since I did
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sort of make the episode for you, so I kind
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of want to see where you take us on this journey.
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And I guess on that note, the only other thing
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we wanted to mention, very briefly is there is one
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other post rock album we're not going to be discussing
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in depth today. In fact, it's the album where the
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term post rock has first been traced too, and that
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is the album Hex by Bark Psychosis. So you go
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back a couple randomizers or so. We talked about it there.
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I did want to mention it because not only is
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it rightly considered a seminal album in the post rock scene,
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but because it really fits the softer side description to
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a tea. So I definitely wanted to acknowledge its absence.
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Hex is one of my favorite albums of the genre,
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or at least of this period. It's definitely worthy of exploration.
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Even though I did love some of this stuff, I
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don't know if anything's quite knocked it off its pedestal
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that it shares with Laughingstock, which we'll discuss today. Yeah,
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did you really think you wanted to briefly mention about Hex.
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Before we moved on.
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I'd just refer the listener back to I know it
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was a bonus episode. I think it was the same
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one you had a Man for Man's Plains music one.
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I feel like I did plenty of gushing about that
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album on there. I did re listen to it, and yeah,
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it definitely holds up very very atmosphere, I would say,
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I guess to draw further line of comparison. If you
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like that Blue Isle album we talked about back on
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the Fist Pop episode, Hex is kind of the same feeling,
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but through a more post rock filter. So you like
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that big, spacious sound things being very moody. Check it
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on out all right?
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Well, speaking of checking things out, Ian, what do you
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want to start with?
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Well, Shoot, this is an interesting one to know where
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to kick things off. I think I'll start with something that,
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by nature of how it sounds, I may not have
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a lot to say about, and that is The Four
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Carnation Promised Works. It took me a long time to
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wrap my head around that band's name, and I don't
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really know why. But what this album is is lo
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fi and very very spare. I think it takes more
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than eight minutes for any instruments besides one guitar and
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some vocals. In fact, I think the entire first track,
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which is eight minutes, is a guy kind of singing
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softly over chords and maybe the occasional keyboard drone somewhere
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way in the background, and with one exception that I
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want to save for later because I found it intriguing.
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I would say this is probably the most bare bones
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of the set here. The band is pretty much just
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a typical band, got your guitars, bass, drums, and a singer,
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some lights, synth or whatever kinds of orchestrations in the
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background here and there. But it's very stripped down as
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far as its sonic palette. The production is very low fi,
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so it doesn't have the massive resonant production that you
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expect from a lot of modern post rock once the
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genre was codified, which flew in the face of post
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rock just about as much as a progressive music becoming
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a specific sound flew in the face being progressive. Anyway.
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I'm sure we'll have that discussion elsewhere. It's very ringed
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in and the energy does surge noticeably at times, But
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the four Carnation just made a really soft, light airy album.
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I would throw the word empty at it, but I
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don't mean that as an insult. It's got a holwist
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to it. I see it's tag sometimes a sad core,
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and I think that really really applies, or maybe slow core.
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It's not always that miserable. Last note, I would have
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Ciger reminds me of Ben Gibberd a whole lot, and
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that was kind of cool, because half of these albums
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we're talking about are totally instrumental or barely feature vocals
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at all. When we do get voices on this episode,
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I do have to remark on them. And if you're
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a death cab for CUTI fan I think the sky
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will sound familiar. I think he might have originally been
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from a separate band Slint. Maybe yeah, he's from slid okay,
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which I have not checked them out, which I I
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it was a big sin that I have to correct,
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but I think at this point I'm ready to turn
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promised works over to you.
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Okay.
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This isn't really a album in the traditional sense. It
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is a compilation of their two previous EPs, and those
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were titled Fight Songs and Marshmallows. They were released in
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ninety five and ninety six respectively. So yes, as Ian mentioned,
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this is the follow up project by Brian McMahon from Slint.
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Slint would be on the opposite end of the spectrum
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as far as post route goes. I don't know if
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I would really call them soft, so I was excited
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to be able to work them into this episode somehow,
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even though spider Land and their other works don't really
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fit the bill this time around, it was nice to
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have that link to them here. But they did release
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one full length album later on in two thousand, but
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that's pretty much it. So this is two thirds of
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their recorded output, which is somewhat surprising given the pedigree
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of the band's founder, and I know it's also included
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members of Tortoise and a couple other Slint members. I
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think people pop in and out, as Ian implied. Being
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as sparse as it is, it really is mainly a
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solo project for Brian, being as minimalistic as it is.
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I don't really know if there's a whole lot else
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I can comment on. I will say something I don't
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know if.
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You picked up on or not, or maybe it's just
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something I thought. Maybe you'll disagree with me. I don't know,
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but I liked listening to this album because I feel
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like in this you can see where the link between
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emo and post rock that we see really flourish in
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the Midwestern emo scene that we talked about on a
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previous episode begin Because this, to me, although it's not
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nearly as musically complex as some of those Midwestern emo
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albums we talked about, there is something about this that
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really reminds me of cap and Jazz or American Football
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or Sunny Day Realist. Any you have like the softer
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end of that scene, particularly the late nineties stuff. I
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throw a mineral in there as well, I guess so
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if you really wanted to just hear those guys just
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really really chill out, I think this is the place
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to go. Brian's voice, to me, has a lot of
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that adolescent vibe that a lot of emo singers have,
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and I think it does help this one stand apart.
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Post rock often feels very adult, sometimes maybe even to
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a fault, This.
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One has a little bit more of a youthfulness to it.
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I think the simplicity of the song structure helps with
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that too. I don't know if amateurness is the word,
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but similar to when you hear beat happening, there's something
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primal and primitive about it, and I think it's also
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kind of reflected in the album cover, which is a
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very simplistic piece of folk art on a black screen.
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I definitely think there's something to be said there. The
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song's also arranged from extremely long to extremely short. There's
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these very long, slow cored ballads and these short bursts
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of energy, which also sort of reminded me of cap
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and jazz lot.
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So yeah, that's where I landed with it.
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It's one I would probably have to revisit again, just
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because it is very, very easy to get lost in
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this one. That's honestly probably going to be a recurring
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theme today, but in particular this one, you just kind
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of want to lie.
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On the couch and let it take you.
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Away, and I'm kind of glad I was forced to
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work in a spreadsheet while listening to this. And I
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do think that your death Cap comparison is noteworthy as well.
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I would say if you're fans of them, were fans
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of Bright Eyes, that you might want to check this
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one out as well.
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Yeah, I could definitely hear that, And yeah, I guess
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that's a good caveat to just say here and now.
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So much of this genre is music that you melt
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into more than you actively pick a part or dance
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to or anything like that. Sometimes it's a little tricky
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to talk about. But I feel like we're going to
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do a good enough job. I hope. All right, I
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guess we're ready to move on at this point, so
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I think next up. I hate to do that to
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the one that's a woman fronted just put it this early,
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but I think I'm gonna go with Earwig and the
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album under my Skin. I am laughing. This is an
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intriguing one. It's pretty oblique compared to some of the
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other albums here that are gonna be a bit more
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structured relatively, albums that are gonna be here elsewhere. It's
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got a good sense of variety to it. It could
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be more based on these delicate guitars and bass, or
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a lot of these songs have synth samples, various patterns
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like that. Usually pretty sparse, but it does thicken up
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here and there. But again, much like The Four Carnation,
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though not nearly as much, Earwig is stripped in their sound,
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but there's a good variety to it. There's elements of electronics,
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some distortion kicks in that gives some of the album
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a more synthetic kind of pulse, but that's countered off
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against the vocalist Kirsty's voice, which is delicate but also
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very emotive, so you get some good emotion coming out
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of this one. There are a couple of moments later
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in the album which I feel like the cover art
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reflects well, where in the later half it can get
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oddly uncomfortable and just kind of makes your skin crawl
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even a moment or two. It doesn't happen very often,
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but it's definitely there, and so I enjoy the fact
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that they shift up the mood here and there, Considering
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a lot of mood and contemporary post rock is pretty homogeneous,
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usually a little bit sad, a little bit nostalgic maybe
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and just very big. So this is definitely the one
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of the bunch that I would have to revisit the most.
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But what was there? It caught my attention just by
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its variety, does a couple different things very well, doesn't
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always stick in my head, but the vocals are really
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good on it, and overall an impressive album.
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This one's hard to describe, and not just because of
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leaning on instrumentation or because it's an album that you
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get absorbed into. I think it's hard to describe because
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it's hard to describe it without using conflicting terminology. This
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is not something that's limited to us. When you look
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at this album online, you'll see tags like lush and atmospheric,
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and mysterious and mellow. Sometimes the word hypnotic is even
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thrown around. But then when you actually see like dudes
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or girls talking about it in the comment sections of
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review sites, you'll see words like skin crawling and unnerving
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and dissonant anxiety inducing things like that, and you might
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be wondering which is it, and the answer is it's
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kind of both, and it's a very hard atmosphere to capture.
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I would have the easiest time comparing to other just
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bizarre electronica, particularly stuff from the sixties and seventies that
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has that odd sense of age to it that can
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add a little bit of a creep factor to even
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innocent children's recordings or education record or stuff that really
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was not intended to be.
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Creepy but is.
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And this very much feels like a nineteen ninety two
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version of that. It's really unlike anything I've ever heard before.
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I really enjoy the singer's voice. I believe her name
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is Christy, That.
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Right, Kirsty.
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Yeah, she wouldn't be out of place on your Sad
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Girl episode if she was doing a different kind of music.
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Can't say I've ever heard anybody that sounds exactly like
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her in a slow core setting, which I guess i'd
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call this slow core. I get something very modern about
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her voice in a sense. She reminds me a little
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bit of the girl from Crystal Castles and Grimes and
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that whole scene. But if they just slowed their pace
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down to a molasses slow drip. She has that weird,
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almost childlike timber to her voice, and then you have
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this very weird music. It's just a very odd fit.
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It's a hard album to fully recommend, but it is
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one that I think people should.
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At least try. But there were.
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Moments of this where did borderline irritate me. I knew
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you had a similar experience with Lone Holly. There were
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a couple of moments where I was like, all right,
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all right, all right, let's go, let's go. It never
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made me skip through, and I don't even necessarily see
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that as a criticism, because I think that might be
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part of the intent. It's a very emotionally confusing album.
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I think that does make it special, and it makes
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me want to visit what else they've done, if anything,
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oh nothing.
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A couple EPs previously.
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They're also tagged as noise pop, which is something I
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just found out about and really want to dig into more.
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I don't have.
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Any experience with that genre, so I don't know how
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this would compare to other stuff of that. Ilk's something
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I'd recommend for shoegaze fans as well, particularly of that
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early noisier variety.
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Just give it a shot.
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I feel like it's a love it or well no,
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I don't think it's a love it or hated album.
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I think it's a confusing album. I think experiment that
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I think is worth hearing. I feel like I'm rambling
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and repeating myself at this point, so do you want
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to move on?
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I think one of the ones I have less to
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say about, because I mean, after this point they start
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to get really intriguing. Let's go with the Shiva Effect
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in their album Yahweh. So this is one of the
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albums I think I would consider most typical of the
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term post rock. There's a lot of long builds with
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guitar into emotional crescendos and all the stereotypical stuff you'd
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expect from post rock, which I can be a sucker
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for it. Over time, like the crescendo core as they
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call it, has gotten a little more tired, but when
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it's well done, it's still well done, and I think
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Shiva Effect does it well. So in addition to these longer,
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more drawn out songs that'll start with your soft strumming
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and eventually going to full distorted big moments, there's a
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lot of moodier short pieces and like the sparse, empty
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numbers that will happen just to keep the flow a
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little bit irregular, or maybe it's so there's variety to
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the pacing and it's not just all a one trick pony.
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There are even some flutes that show up way late
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in the album, which, considering they save that till I
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think past the halfway mark, it shows that this is
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a very well thought out paced release. A couple psych
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tinge is present here and there in the distortion. I
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think the album cover kind of gives that away, since
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it's like a school of rainbow Fish and I do
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like that cover, and it's very simple but it works.
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But the psych tinges aren't really a big part of it.
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It's just a flavoring in some of the softer moments
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and the vocals on this they're mostly kept to this
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soft croon that I think really works well for the
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quieter moments on this album tend to be a little
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bit more lost in the mix when it gets louder,
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but never so much where I'm straining to figure out
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what the guy's doing. Highlight to me was the last
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song because in addition to the guy who does most
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of the vocals, they pull in a gala duet with
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him and it really works. I almost wish more of
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that happened across this album, but I guess saving everything
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till the very end for just a bit of impact.
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It's kind of an inspired decision that works pretty well
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all told. Got to give them credit. This is a
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pretty dang good, if fairly typical post rock album.
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Yeah, and of course I guess the name of the
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episode by design implies this, but probably worth repeating, even
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if to twenty first century twenty twenty two years this
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sounds typical of the genre. This was nineteen ninety four.
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I think X was released the same year, so these
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guys deserve a lot of credit for being quite literally
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decades ahead of their time. And personally, I think this
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is even All that said, and as many years separate
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this as many bands that have come to imitate this style,
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I think YAHWEH will stand the test of time.
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A little better than a lot of those crescendo core
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bands will.
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It is nice to revisit this era when post rock
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hadn't completely given up the game on a vocals I'm
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a vocals guy.
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I like lyrics. What a generic thing to say?
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Words are good?
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Yeah, I like words, and I'm sad how many post
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rock bands just completely abandoned them in favor of the
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sweeping crescendo. Could probably go on a rant about how
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that really aids my belief of that I'm being emotionally
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manipulated by a sound I feel when I listened a
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lot of post rock, but I'll say that it just
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feel like you're putting yourself out there a little more
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when you're adding these lyrics. And yeah, this is one
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I would recommend to people that like Hex by Bark Psychosis.
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I think that is one of its closest bedfellows, though.
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I don't think it's nearly as drawn out in atmospheric
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as that. Despite the fact that the first song is
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like ten minutes long, get past that, it very much
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is pretty song oriented, more so than you'd really come
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to expect from later day post rock.
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Well, I mean, by modern standards, eleven minutes for a
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song isn't really that daunting for post rock either, No.
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It isn't, and I will say and another nice surprise is,
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despite the fact that this is a very modern sounding
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post rock album, they had the good graces to stop
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at thirty seven minutes, which helps a lot, especially considering
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the era, because, as we've discussed on the show, before
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the nineties was rife with the attitude waita that I
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can fit how much music on a CD. It's nice
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when bands don't fall victim to that curse. It really
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helps the album feel nice and tight, as tight as
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an atmospheric post rock album can be.
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I do appreciate that. I'd also say, if you're.
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A fan of Rodin Who or another band that would
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have come up on the harsh version of this, anyone
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that likes them or Pram in their album Helium, or
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just anything a little busier in the post rock spectrum,
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I think you could enjoy this one too. This one,
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as Ian implied, it does come the closest to instrumental
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noodling of a more rocking variety. So if you're looking
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for like a little bit more excitement in your post rock,
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I think She the Effect is a good place to look.
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All right, fair enough, Well, let's get one of the
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more oddball albums. I feel like I've said that for
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a couple of them already, but this one is a
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bit different. Let's do not Drowning Waving and their album Proof.
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What sets this one apart is it's a soundtrack written
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with a very different kind of sensibility to it than
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some of these, just having these long drawn out musical
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pieces to build a mood. Technically, that's what a movie
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soundtrack should do, but these guys do it in a
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very tight way. I don't think any of the songs
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on here, or any of the tracks, I should say,
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they're not necessarily always songs goes over five minutes. If
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any it's just one. Maybe there's a couple recurring late
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motifs and repeated melodies with just minor variations between them,
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and they work in a decent amount of musical variety
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even in these tighter, smaller tracks. Not a lot of
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vocals here, but they do show up and on I
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think it's the one song they do. They're pretty smooth.
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The guy is a good voice and carries that one
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very well. But as far as the songs go, some
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of them have percussion that reminded me of somebody like
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eighth eight State. That's the softer stuff from eighth eight State.
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I don't mean like they're really throbbing house music kind
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of material. Some of the songs, it's just a thin
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synthesizer that sounds like it came off Lewis's album, with
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a bit of soft guitar and piano accompanying it. Accompanying it.
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Some of them are upbeat, bouncy. He can tell what
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ever seen they were written for was something a bit
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more active. There's just borline ambient music where it's down
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to maybe a piano and a couple non musical sounds
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being sampled throughout. And occasionally there's some dialogue out of
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the movie, which I did not get a chance to
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see though. You said it's what on TB.
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Yeah, it's free on two B. I need a chance
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to watch it either that. The description does have be intrigued.
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Yeah, I mean Hugo weavings in it, and I usually
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like anything that he's in, or at least I like
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him in anything. Definitely, do have to check it out.
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It's another movie to watch. Why not. I think it
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came out like ninety two or something like that.
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Nine you won early Russell Crowe too, Oh yeah, he
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was in it.
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I'm curious to watch it too.
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I'm a big fan of Australian genre movies, but I
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haven't really a of it.
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I guess maybe Snowtown.
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I haven't really dipped into any Australian drama, particularly not
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from the early nineties, so I'm very curious to give
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that a watch.
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Yeah, I could be intriguing. I'll have to do the
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same myself. At very least know the soundtrack is going
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to be good. That's got to count for something, though,
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I guess to get to one thing I know we're
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going to disagree on slightly. It doesn't always feel that
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much like a movie soundtrack to me, or at least
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it doesn't feel cinematic in the way I usually think
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of it. That's the term I used on several of these,
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But I guess when I say cinematic, I'm thinking more
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like big, open, dramatic kind of soundscapes, whereas this one
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it's a little closer and tighter. But I guess depending
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on the type of movie it is, maybe something a
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bit more personal is gonna be what the movie calls for.
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So I don't know what was your take on it.
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This is one of my favorites of the week.
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I think a lot of that might have to do
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with the fact that not droughting waving had been around
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since the early eighties, and there gives a lot more
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Eighties bleed over into this than I think you find
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on the other albums. It really reminded me a lot
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of well. Tear through Fear is a particular, I would
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say it is a big point in comparison, at least
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in the moments of the vocals, but actually even us
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on the instrumentation to particularly the percussion, reminding the lot
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of some of those later more world influenced Tears for
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Fears albums.
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I can't think of what the ones called seeds.
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Of love or something showing the seeds love.
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Yeah, thank you.
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But it also reminded me of a lot of that
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Donnie Darka soundtrack kind of stuff.
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Stuff like the Church. We've talked about a lot, but what.
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The world influences and the more experimental flourishes cranked up
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a few knobs. It's a direction I would have liked
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to see a lot more of those bands go in,
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had they stuck around. But actually I think the Church
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didn't stick around. I only need to do a deep
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dive into them. But whatever, talk for another.
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Day, I need to do the same.
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I was really taken with this one, and considering I
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haven't even seen the movie yet, I was surprised how
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many moments in this really managed to grab me by
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the emotional heart strings.
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And I guess that's why maybe I.
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Disagree with the cinematic nature of it, and I get
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what you're saying.
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It's not this.
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Big, broad, sweeping orchestration like you'd expect from like a
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Hollywood epic. But I feel like so many of these
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songs feel like the sad.
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Moment of a really good drama.
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It's kind of incredible to me that even outside the
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context of viewing that on the screen, the emotional cues
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seem to still be there.
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I'm not a big soundtrack guy.
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Don't go back and listen to a lot of instrumental
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soundtracks like this. If I am a fans soundtracks, it's
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like stuff I've mentioned before, stuff like the Wraith or
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the Transformer soundtrack, or stuff from the eighties, filled with
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cheesy goodness. It's not often I visit a soundtrack of
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this nature and that This is honestly making me rethink
492
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that a little bit, and I'm wondering if maybe I should
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do that a little bit more often.
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I recommend the Manhunter's soundtrack.
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Oh yeah, well, Michael Mann has good taste in music,
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so I can see that won't being good. This might
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be one of the more traditional ones, probably easier for
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people like the Johnny on the Street to get into.
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But don't let that fool you.
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There is some very surprising instrumentation here and a lot
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of stuff that I think you would hear in a
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lot of other post rock bands down the line, particularly
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those that took more influence from experimental music of the
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decade's previous. Again, not much connected tissue between this crescendo core,
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but I do think you could find a lot of
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people that took influence from this.
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Yeah, I would agree with that. Partially why I recommend
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Manhunter's soundtrack as I was thinking about that and thinking,
509
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:24.400
oh yeah, that kind of sounds a little like this
510
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A bunch of times.
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They apparently also did a soundtrack.
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It would be called Hammers over the Anthol, which I
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think is a Australian Western and also stars with Russell Crowe.
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I'm curious to see that too. I do like Australian westerns.
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Anyway, moving onward, why don't we get one of the
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other more typical ones out of the way, or more
517
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te U's term that should be forbidden in post rock,
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one of the more conventional ones out of the way,
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and that would be Lanterna and their self titled album.
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The overriding feeling I had with this one was it
521
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:59.799
sounded the most like what post rock sounds like in
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my head. It's got the drawn out, floating guitar lines
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over these repeated musical patterns, building up into these big
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tremlo crescendos. There's some shoegazy elements here and there, the
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progressions and some of the guitar lines are more just
526
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moody waves than they are riffs and rhythms. It's really
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good at it. But these guys, especially being early on
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in the sound, I think they were really onto what
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the genre was going to be best known for, and
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this album is some of the better stuff I've heard
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from it. They really got to give Lantern a credit
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for beating so many bands to the punch and making
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I guess to use the word crescendo core. That's this good.
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00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.160
Now whenever the vocals kick in, that's a whole other
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feeling because that guy has a loungey voice, and I
536
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think it really suits the album well, because most of
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the time when he's singing, it's going to be in
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the softer, more down, leveled out parts, and I think
539
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he really takes to that with a plum he gives it.
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I almost use the word smoky. I don't know if
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00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.039
it's like a smoky lampiness I would say, but there's
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definitely a lounge feeling to it. But it's not really
543
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a one trick pony of an album either. Later on
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there's some experimentation with the some electronics at least some
545
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of the noisiest moments on any album we're talking about today,
546
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or buried a little further into it, and just for
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being a great example of what was gonna come that
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I think still stands against most of the more contemporary
549
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post rock i've heard. Lanterna did a really good job
550
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with this one. I was into it.
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I wasn't surprised by this one. This was late comer.
552
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I always this one today, and I was surprised by
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00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.319
how many twists and turns it took. I had to
554
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:51.279
keep looking out my phone to see if Sight had
555
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:53.640
accidentally clicked on the wrong link, or if the album
556
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had to stop it and auto played something else.
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Part of that is because this is really, really, really long.
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00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.640
But the more positive side of that is because they
559
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:05.559
do cover a lot of different musical ground. There's stuff
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that you'll bob your head to, which is not something
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very common in post rock. There are moments where you're
562
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just going to be completely chilled out. There are moments
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00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:16.759
somewhat like Earwig that I think border one creating a
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sense of discomfort. There are these noisy elements. There is
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00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:26.640
that loungey blue dial esque vocalization. It really is just
566
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throwing everything out there, and I think that speaks to
567
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the nature of the album. It's mainly a one man
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00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:35.000
band that is by a guy by the name of
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Henry Frayin, and he self released this in ninety two.
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It was eventually re released and I think a couple
571
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of times, which is why I think the version that's
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00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:47.440
on YouTube that we both listen to is now so
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jam packed with songs. I'm honestly not really familiar with
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what was on the initial cassette, although I think it
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might have been multiple cassettes, but regardless, this is I
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guess the only one did not have a label backing.
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It's incredible how modern this one manages to sound. Henry
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is very, very in tune.
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It was gonna be coming in post rock down the line.
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It's cool to see that it came from a little
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band called Lanterna that was a self released project.
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I can't really think of a better exhibit.
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A as to why you need to pay attention to
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the Little Guys, because even though they had quite a
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prolific recording career, in fact, I think it just released
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an album last year, it looks like I don't think
587
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.640
you hear enough about these guys. I've never heard them
588
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Carol did as an early innovator of the sound. I
589
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:35.640
guess funny little note is like, the first song on
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this is called Silent Hills, so Max, if you're listening,
591
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:42.759
check it out. Although I think it's just a coincidence,
592
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but the version we listened to the album cover is
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just I don't know if this is in England or Scotland,
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because they heat Scottish.
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It's scott a Scottish look to it.
596
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Yeah, it's just it looks like the rolling highlands into
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gray missed the road to nowhere with these stone walls
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of nondescript age, and I feel like it really captures
599
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:05.279
the overarching atmosphere of this There's just a lot of
600
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:11.079
mystery and beauty and wonder to it. So yeah, it
601
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.559
may be the most conventional, but it's doing a lot
602
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.720
with those conventions and I would really recommend to check
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this one out.
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00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.920
Yeah, agreed. This was one of the big surprise hits
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the episode for me, and I can't say anything on
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00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.720
here was bad, so it's in good company and still
607
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.079
coming out ahead. All right, Well, I think the next
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00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.200
one will hit another one of the instrumentals here, Let's
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00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.759
do Sand with their album The Dynamic Curve. How ironic
610
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I do like Sand this band judging by the comments
611
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.759
on the YouTube video that I track down, these guys
612
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.599
must have been a huge influence on Agaloc And you
613
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.960
can actually hear that almost immediately, and that was really cool.
614
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On the first song even there's these like twangy, really dramatic,
615
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:05.160
kind of Western sounding guitar chords going out across this
616
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:11.440
kind of weird and for me unidentifiable percussion sampling or
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00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:16.720
just percussion, and it sets this weird mood where it's
618
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:21.200
a little bit alien, but it's also very folky, and
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as progresses a little closer to their name, it almost
620
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:28.359
has like high noon Western vibes to some of it.
621
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And I think we both expressed that we're both suckers
622
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:36.240
for that kind of sound. So to hear coming from
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00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:40.079
a band that starts out really sounding like it's from
624
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:44.799
the Great Untouched forests. The progression on this album is
625
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:48.240
great because it starts in the one area, moves its
626
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.839
way to the other, and then I guess by the
627
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.359
end it's combined them a little bit. Also, I think
628
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:57.440
their band logo is the Santana font, so I had
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00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.480
to get a chuckle out of that. Feels like an
630
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.559
experimental Western soundtrack to me. This is one of the
631
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albums that I definitely most thought, like, Man, this sounds
632
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:11.000
like it is custom made for a movie. It's almost
633
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.559
a tragedy that it's not. It's a little bit lo fi.
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00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:17.519
The sound isn't quite as clean as you would expect
635
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:20.480
from something that I'm gonna describe as cinematic, assuming you
636
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:25.359
did even expect that, but there's enough breadth in the
637
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:28.640
production that all the elements do have room to breathe.
638
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:34.400
It's pretty well orchestrated and just cool sounds on this one.
639
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:38.119
It's just different, not sounds you hear a lot, although
640
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.359
you would eventually come to hear a lot of that
641
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:44.960
in some of the works of Agaloc, which, if you're
642
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:48.000
gonna draw influence from one of the small guys, at
643
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:50.680
least they did a great tribute to it. Because I
644
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:56.839
mean I picked up that through line from Santo Agaloc
645
00:33:56.920 --> 00:34:01.000
within the first like three chords on the first song.
646
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:05.000
I do have to say, as total aside, I'm thinking
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00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.239
it was this album's fault that all of a sudden,
648
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on my work computer, YouTube just started recommending me at
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00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.199
videos of porn stars. I think some of the songs
650
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.239
are I forget what their names are, but.
651
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:18.920
The first song is called fellatio.
652
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.960
Yeah, that's right. The first song is called fillatio. I
653
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.639
think there's another one in there that's also kind of
654
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:29.880
an explicitly sexual sounding term. Just remove me saying that.
655
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.880
I was thinking it was intercourse and it's like consent.
656
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.199
You're right, consent, which is an important part of any
657
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.599
sexual encounter. Yeah, the first song being called filatio, I
658
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.360
think that started recommending me porn star videos on YouTube
659
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:48.760
on my work computer. It's either that or somebody's using
660
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:50.880
my computer while I'm not there and they don't realize
661
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.960
there's a camera in that room. So you can't do that.
662
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:56.199
When I threw this album on for the second time,
663
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:59.800
it's like, uh, that first song is just called blow
664
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.000
No Wonder. But anyway, I've gotten off topic. Well, what'd
665
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:05.679
you think of sand I loved it.
666
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:07.480
This was one of my favorites through the week, if
667
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.719
not my favorite, for pretty much all the reasons you mentioned.
668
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:12.920
Despite that glowing praise, I'm not really gonna have a
669
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.440
whole lot to say about this that you didn't already cover.
670
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:18.159
I think soundtrack to an experimental Western is really the
671
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:22.199
best description I could have given. It's just big, it's airy.
672
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.440
You can almost feel the clean mountain air like flowing
673
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:28.199
into your lungs when you're listening to this. I think
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00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.960
that low fi nature adds a little something to it.
675
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.519
It makes it feel like a soundtrack from the seventies
676
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:36.320
or something like Holy Mountain.
677
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:37.000
Is that what it's called?
678
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.519
The hutter rescue one? Yeah, el topo? Maybe?
679
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:41.360
Oh yeah, el Topo?
680
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.480
I think that might put I'm thinking of just something
681
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.119
along those lines. It's just so strange to hear those
682
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:51.159
Western influences creep into this, and it adds a really
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00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:53.159
nice flavoring to this that I don't feel like you
684
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:54.440
get enough from post rock.
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I know, the big open.
686
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.599
Prairie is a theme I've seen a lot of post
687
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Rocks try to invoke with album covers and song titles
688
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.800
and stuff, but sounds exactly like the bands that are
689
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:11.719
influenced by the ocean. It doesn't really invoke that atmosphere
690
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:13.800
the way I might want it to. And I feel
691
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:15.960
like sand fulfilled that promise that a lot of other
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00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.320
bands have made to me, and they haven't delivered one.
693
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:19.679
It is funny.
694
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.400
There's only like one video of this uploaded on YouTube,
695
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:26.480
and I think every single comment.
696
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:29.960
Is about Agalock. So credit to them for.
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00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:33.159
Taking a moment to throw these guys a bone.
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00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:34.199
I love to see that.
699
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:38.159
It always irritates me when a musician of that caliber
700
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:41.000
is interviewed and they have this opportunity to really shine
701
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.719
the light on maybe something a little bit more unknown
702
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:46.360
that inspired them.
703
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:48.239
And then they're like, oh yeah, I really.
704
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.400
Like Black Sabbath. I don't know, maybe that is all
705
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:52.840
they listen to. But I love it when somebody actually
706
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.880
digs through the collection a little bit pulls something like
707
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:59.280
this out. I did also see speaking of a post
708
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:03.559
rock or post metal bands my suggestive videos, along with
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00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.800
a bunch of videos about people missing in national parks,
710
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:10.400
which actually kind of fits the theme of this pretty well.
711
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:13.440
But I also have a suggestive video for one of
712
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.239
the Angelic Processes albums.
713
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:18.159
Oh yeah, that one came up for me too.
714
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:20.599
Yeah, and I can hear a little not as direct
715
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:22.480
as a agalog, but I can definitely hear some sand
716
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:26.320
influence on the angelic process as well. And they're a
717
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:28.559
band I really need to do a revisit of They
718
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.840
were what got me into Postman to begin with.
719
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:33.320
I haven't revisited them in a while.
720
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:36.320
I got into them like right after the main guy
721
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:37.360
im suicide.
722
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:40.360
That's weighing souls with sand, isn't that the big one?
723
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.559
Yeah, that's probably why it's coming up in the suggestions. Actually,
724
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:44.800
now that you say that, because of.
725
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:48.320
The word sand, that could be but sand and post.
726
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:51.320
Last note I'll make on this for the dynamic curve
727
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.440
if you did mention it, I apologize for just repeating you.
728
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.800
But some interesting percussion choices on this one.
729
00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:59.400
I think that also helps the prairie esthetic. But it's
730
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:03.079
something I think really only shares a connection to, not
731
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:05.199
drought and Waving, which also has a lot of really
732
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:08.880
interesting percussion. It's refreshing because I feel like post rock
733
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:13.280
is very often a guitar driven genre, so it's nice
734
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.360
to hear some strange drumming going on as well.
735
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:21.280
Yeah, agreed, Also something that agaloc took and well it
736
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.920
didn't take. But another thing that they followed up on
737
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:26.320
I think they used to use a deer skull as
738
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:31.519
a percussion instrument. Cool stuff all around. All right, we
739
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:34.079
good on sand I think, so okay, I'll do an
740
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:38.440
instrumental so we can close out with the obvious vocal
741
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:40.960
heavy one. But before we get to any of those,
742
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.360
let's do one that I guess I took to a
743
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:46.800
lot better than you thought I would, and that's bio
744
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:51.039
Chord and their album High Skies. This one really flipped
745
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:53.719
a script on me. I was not expecting this one
746
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:56.639
to sound the way it did, because even though I
747
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:58.800
know we're in the early days of post rock with
748
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.760
a lot of this stuff, I still expect a certain sound.
749
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.920
What Biochord brings to the table here it feels as
750
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.719
much like math rock to me as anything post rock,
751
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:14.599
and it works. The guitars are very active and do
752
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:18.760
more of a textural style playing than a sort of
753
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:23.519
riffs or drawn out progressions. It's a pair of guitars
754
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:27.159
that are both playing these just very pointed, twinkly little
755
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.039
notes against each other, and they're balanced out with a
756
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.920
bit of violin violin's actually a pretty constant presence, which
757
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:38.000
I think helped this one have an edge, whether it's
758
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:42.639
delivering a melodic line or just sawing a way in
759
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.000
the background to create a bit of tension. Either way,
760
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.079
the violin, it's just a great third set of strings
761
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:55.119
to further maybe not complicate, but to further orchestrate the sound.
762
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:58.280
On this one, there's a lot of jazz component to
763
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.199
it as well. The scal else that they're playing with
764
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:04.639
a lot of times are not typical of rock music.
765
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:07.599
I think there's even just sort of free form solo
766
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.519
on one of the tracks that sounds like something you'd
767
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:15.039
hear from some generic royalty free or not royalty free.
768
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.440
Is that what I mean? That is what I mean? Yeah,
769
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:21.039
kind of generic free jazz sound. I don't mean that
770
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:22.920
in a bad way, but it's the guitar that's just
771
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.840
going wild in the background over a smooth beat and
772
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:30.719
doesn't really follow conventional scales. Yeah, it blends all this together,
773
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:34.320
and I think the most vital part that made it
774
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:39.199
a real favorite for me is they're a bunch of
775
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:44.039
songs on here that sound almost exactly like Discipline Eric
776
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.880
King Crimson. If they just happen to hold on to
777
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:49.320
a violinist or, in the case of one song, a
778
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:53.360
saxophone player. But yeah, this album just boils down to
779
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:56.880
being this almost perfect blend of that eighties eric King
780
00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:59.760
Crimson with a couple looks back their seventies and sixties.
781
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:02.280
I'd say a lot of parts reminded me of the
782
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:05.840
softer material by a Gamble on that band that we
783
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.840
talked about, like way back on one of the opening randomizers,
784
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:13.039
and just a nice smear of mathrock across the whole thing,
785
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:16.599
which I mean, kind of cheating. Mathrock took a lot
786
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:21.960
from Discipline eric In Crimson, but it's definitely different than
787
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.760
what you're gonna think when you hear post rock. But
788
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:29.599
if you like mate Kudasai or just the title track
789
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:32.639
off Discipline, you're gonna love at least half this album,
790
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:33.679
So check it out.
791
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:39.000
Yeah, this is a very strange one and almost so
792
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:41.920
busy that I briefly considered replacing it with something else,
793
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.599
but that I didn't because you listened to it very
794
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:46.280
early on and fell.
795
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:48.000
In love with it, and I was not really expecting that.
796
00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:50.000
I didn't really expect you did not like it, but
797
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.559
it seemed like it was really, really, really high on
798
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:53.880
your list, so I was like, well, I guess we're
799
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:57.199
sticking with it. And it does have plenty of ambient moments.
800
00:41:57.400 --> 00:41:58.679
I think that's one of the things that makes.
801
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:02.000
It so special, is it it goes from this very dizzying,
802
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:07.840
almost the free jazz style, to these ambient bits, to
803
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:11.639
these rock influenced progressive sections, and sometimes it does that
804
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:12.800
in very quick succession.
805
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.400
Much like Earwig. It's another album that I think.
806
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:18.440
Under the wrong circumstances, could be a little dizzying. It's
807
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:21.719
not a little anxiety and doucing. It's a very intense atmosphere.
808
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:24.159
I feel almost bad for not having them on here
809
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:26.480
now because bringing them up for a second time.
810
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:27.760
But if you're a.
811
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:29.599
Fan of post rock out there and you're familiar with
812
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:33.840
Helium by Cram, which is this plus kroud Rock, I
813
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:36.039
think you might want to check this out.
814
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:38.000
I think this is also the first Ukrainian man we
815
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:38.719
ever talked about.
816
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:43.039
Are the Ukrainian Huh? That's surprising, Yeah, it is.
817
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.199
It's not where I'm expected I'm like this to come from,
818
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:48.719
especially because the album cover looks so much like a
819
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:52.559
I don't know, something Marillion would have done in the nineties.
820
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:54.320
It looks like Level forty two to me.
821
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:55.760
Yeah, I can see that.
822
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:59.000
But one of the strangest of the bunch this week,
823
00:42:59.039 --> 00:42:59.920
and that's saying a lot.
824
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:03.840
If you're a jazz guy, this might be your starting point.
825
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.440
I would say it's definitely not one of the more
826
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.039
sit back and relax albums, but I do think it's
827
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:09.880
one of the better ones.
828
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:13.239
So that is all I have for High Skies. I'm
829
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:14.679
not sure if we ever actually said the name of
830
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:15.039
this one.
831
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:18.400
I think I said at the start, but well, well no,
832
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:22.599
eventually we're working on it. People. We're trying Biochord with
833
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:26.400
Highest Skies moving on, all.
834
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:27.679
Right, Well, if we're not going to the big one,
835
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:28.760
then I guess season only.
836
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.679
One a choice, yep, and that is Long Fin Killy
837
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:36.840
And the album Who DEENI Deani is definitely well definitely
838
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.599
one of, if not the most vocal centric albums on
839
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:46.039
this entire episode, and I was very happy about that
840
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:48.679
because their singer, I forget what you said, his name
841
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:54.280
was Luke something, but he has a very particular, almost
842
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.239
Peter Gabriel esque tune to his voice that immediately put
843
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.320
me on this album side because yeah, that vocal style.
844
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:04.400
Whenever it happens, I'm probably going to be into it.
845
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.880
In this case, I definitely was, and even on just
846
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:11.280
that first track, mixing these kind of Peter Gabriel style
847
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:15.280
vocals with atmosphere chorns that reminded me of Julia Holter.
848
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.159
If that name's not familiar, just go back to a
849
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:22.679
randomizer where we were limiting ourselves to nothing but women.
850
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:27.119
They just get off to such cool start with those vocals,
851
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:29.800
those kind of atmosphere horns that pop up here and
852
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:34.400
there throughout the album, some pretty pointed lyrics. At a
853
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.440
lot of times, I'll I'll throw it out there. The
854
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:40.480
singer is black. So when that one word shows up
855
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:44.440
in the song, Hollywood Gem, don't make the mistake I
856
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:47.519
did and like have to suspend your li like for
857
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:50.199
the album for the moment out of concern. The percussion
858
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:53.360
on this one is like really cool, a bit more
859
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:55.320
out there, kind of leaning in the direction of like
860
00:44:56.159 --> 00:45:01.119
sand or not waving or not drowning. I was about
861
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.960
to say it the sad way. It's got just cool
862
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.079
percussion all over it. The bass is really slinky and
863
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:10.519
tends to be as much a backbone of the music
864
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.000
as any of the guitars. Ever, do the guitars for
865
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.679
their part, they play in a lot more of a,
866
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:18.639
to use the term again, a textural kind of way,
867
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:21.840
and I guess I should elucidate on that if you're
868
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:27.199
not like big into just dumb guitar terminology. When I
869
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.480
say like guitar textures, I mean kind of the style
870
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:33.360
of playing that you know you expect from again, eighties
871
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:37.599
Robert Fripp or Andy Summers, when the Police got a
872
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.599
bit more atmospheric. It's less a riff and more just
873
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:45.320
like a network of notes and long fin killy. They
874
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.400
kind of do that all over this album, and they
875
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:52.639
do it really really well. In addition to that, there's
876
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.800
a couple of dashes of shoegaze elements bleeding in. Again,
877
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:58.519
obviously a lot of these bands were shoegaze fans of
878
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:04.079
some sort. Some hearts have this post punk kind of intensity.
879
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.480
Of course, the great irony being post punk happened about
880
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:12.079
the same time punk did. That's forever funny to me. Yeah, Again,
881
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.039
it's an album that covers a lot of moods, and
882
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:18.960
I think this would probably be the first one I
883
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:22.880
would recommend to somebody who isn't into post rock but
884
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.440
wants to try because even though there's not a lot
885
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.840
of conventional structure to the music, the vocal hooks are
886
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:35.480
just still really good. It's very accessible for a genre
887
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:40.800
that's always been a deconstruction of rock norms. And even
888
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:44.239
though Houdini is an album full of really deconstructed rock,
889
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.360
it's still put back together in a way that I
890
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:50.679
think is very, very pleasant to the ear. I can't
891
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.440
imagine anybody who's not a little bit open minded about
892
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:58.920
music thinking this was not worth hearing. It's the first
893
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:02.440
album I listened to for this episode and ended up
894
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:05.039
another one of my favorites on here and definitely a
895
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:08.280
band I want to dig into some more of their works. Yeah,
896
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:10.800
Long fin Killia definitely impressed me here.
897
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:12.800
Before I forget to say it. The main guy in
898
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:16.119
the band, Luke Sutherland, is sometimes a member of Mogwa
899
00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:20.320
who are you know, King of Big Dick Mountain when
900
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:23.000
it comes to post rock, So I think that's worth mentioning.
901
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:25.760
I don't really know if I have a whole lot.
902
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:27.719
Else to add as far as the music goes.
903
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.760
I will say one thing I really liked about this one,
904
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:33.559
and I like the word texture, and I understand how
905
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:35.920
you're using it, but to put a little bit of
906
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.400
a finer point on that, just.
907
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:38.960
From somebody who's musically stupid.
908
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:42.039
I do feel like this has a lot of similarities
909
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.280
to some of the spoken word with musical accompaniment.
910
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:47.239
Stuff that we've talked about on the show, like Flowers
911
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:48.440
of Evil, like Lonnie Howie.
912
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:50.800
I think that's it's so far hell I'd even honestly
913
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.119
almost thread Lewis in that camp where it just feels
914
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.360
like the music, as good as it is, it almost
915
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.719
feels like an afterthought or like it only exists, not just.
916
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:02.519
Listening to a poetry reading.
917
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:06.159
It seems like it's much more in service of what
918
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:09.760
Luke is doing than it is forward facing, which I
919
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.920
think is very strange for post rock, which is, as
920
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.320
we've mentioned a couple of times, often an instrumental genre.
921
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:21.599
I think this is also probably the most openly gay
922
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:22.559
album we've.
923
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:24.039
Ever talked about on the show.
924
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:27.119
Lyrically, we've talked about like Animal Nightlife and I think
925
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:29.840
a couple of other LGBT artists on the show, but
926
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.360
I don't know if it's ever been this forward facing.
927
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:33.800
And I also don't know if we've ever talked about
928
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:36.840
anything this early on. I know both you and I
929
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:40.239
have praised the renaissance so all, not even if renaissance
930
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:42.320
is the word, but the growth of like the queer
931
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:45.039
music community in the past couple of years, and why
932
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:48.599
we think that, regardless of your political affiliation or whatever,
933
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:52.360
hearing fresh voices and fresh takes in any genre of
934
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.039
music is a good thing. Along with that, I do
935
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:59.159
have to somewhat lament the fact that we're only just
936
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:02.880
now reaching that point where you can be open.
937
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:04.840
About that, because.
938
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:07.760
I do feel like part of the reason we're at
939
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:11.800
that point is because a lot of modern LGBT people
940
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:16.239
grew up in a slightly I would have emphasized slightly
941
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:19.480
more forgiving environment than a lot of people who were
942
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:21.800
gay that came of age in the eighties and the nineties.
943
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.039
Did God forbid the sixties or seventies. So I feel
944
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:27.639
like a lot of your gay artists from you know,
945
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:31.199
the sixties, seventies, eighties, and nineties, they had to hide
946
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:36.639
things behind metaphor or do these gender neutral ballads. And
947
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:38.639
while a lot of them made it work, like Alton
948
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:42.119
John for example, do you get the sense that we've
949
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:45.960
lost those perspectives and that we never really got to
950
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:48.039
hear a lot of those people sing from their voice.
951
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:50.679
Of course, there were exceptions, and I do want to mention,
952
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.920
of course there was a queer corese scene that predated Houdini,
953
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:57.920
But all the same, I feel like this album offers
954
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:01.360
a very rare glimpse into a period of time in
955
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:03.840
the LGBT scene that we don't really see a lot
956
00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:07.239
of representation for in music, and I think that.
957
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:09.199
Makes it worthy from a historical.
958
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:12.800
Point of view, particularly if you are a fan of representation,
959
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:16.079
or if you're someone that seeks out or really queer artists.
960
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:18.719
Do you kind of regret there was a singer.
961
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:21.159
Songwriter who I wanted to include on AM Bronze and
962
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:24.360
I didn't just because well, by nature of the episode
963
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:26.079
of title, it was meant to be stuff that could
964
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:29.800
have been heard on the radio had fates aloud, and
965
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.719
unfortunately I don't think that would have happened with that
966
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:34.760
kind of stuff that you could go back and find
967
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:36.079
his name and we got to talk about him at
968
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:40.280
some point. But anyway, this much like Animal Nightlife, although
969
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.960
I would say this is sort of the bizarre version
970
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:47.360
of Animal Nightlife, which was very much excited and happy.
971
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:50.840
This one's more reflective and somber, and of course there
972
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.800
are some racial issues there as well, which, as you said,
973
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.880
are pretty poignant. And I don't really only punches in
974
00:50:56.960 --> 00:51:01.320
terms of a terminology. Is really great introspect stuff. As
975
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:04.559
much as I love to see people like Lonavak's out
976
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:08.559
there doing his thing, I do love finding these albums
977
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:11.639
where it was a gay men dealing with a little
978
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:13.719
bit more of a tougher time. I think it's all
979
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.480
I have really good stuff, and I will just end
980
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:18.960
on saying that I also really enjoy that violin being
981
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:19.320
in here.
982
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:22.039
So are we ready to move on to Roy?
983
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:22.800
Yeah?
984
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:26.840
I suppose so. Roy Montgomery Scenes from the South Island.
985
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:30.840
You want something sparse, come on down. This one's for you.
986
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:36.360
This album is nothing but guitar. Really, I've listened to
987
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.880
it a second time trying to find something beside guitar.
988
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:43.320
I think there's one song that kind of sounds a
989
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:46.719
church choir was singing across the street from him, but
990
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:50.480
that could have also just been another guitar. It's barse
991
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.440
And if I've ever used that word accurately here it
992
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:56.719
is now. The guitars they do all sorts of things.
993
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:01.800
It could have just light patterns floating along you. Very melodic,
994
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:06.480
very constant, and sound warm, comfortable, all that kind of stuff.
995
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:09.639
Other ones that are a bit more distorted or the
996
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:15.000
progressions feel a bit more alien and dissonant, But no
997
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:18.880
matter what's happening, it's just a guitars ringing out and
998
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:22.880
this kind of a very open kind of production. I
999
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:26.400
wouldn't call it fully lo fi, but it's definitely not overproduced,
1000
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.840
but there's still this feeling of this wide open space
1001
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:34.599
that these guitars are kind of echoing out into, and
1002
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:39.679
I think it really creates an excellent mood on this album.
1003
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:43.280
Whether it's a more longing song or something that's a
1004
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:50.800
bit more uncomfortable, it's an exercise in minimalism and I
1005
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:54.559
love it. I really enjoyed this one by nature of
1006
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:58.760
what it is, but just guitars and nothing else. It's
1007
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.960
kind of hard to discuss in depth, and I can
1008
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:04.480
also definitely see this being one of the most hit
1009
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.360
or miss for people depending on what they look for
1010
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:11.679
in music. But for my own tastes, I think it's great.
1011
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:17.719
Roy Montgomery really put together a very evocative album out
1012
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:22.599
of so little. Really gave me a cinematic vibe in
1013
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.519
a bit more of an experimental way, but I could
1014
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:28.320
definitely see a lot of this album being a soundtrack
1015
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:33.400
to the quiet moments in some bizarre film where everybody's
1016
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:35.800
out on just a wide open plate or something like that.
1017
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:38.000
What else to say? I don't want to say much
1018
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:40.880
more because I'm not sure what you have to say,
1019
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:42.320
and I don't want to steal all of it.
1020
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:44.400
Not much as probably expected.
1021
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:47.199
I guess what I will say, and I'm glad things
1022
00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:49.880
worked out this way because I think it actually gives
1023
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:52.599
me something to say. But the only other album I
1024
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:55.159
listened to this week that was an episode listening was
1025
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:55.920
the new Steve v.
1026
00:53:56.079 --> 00:54:01.039
Album and what a good compare and contrast love guitar Noodling.
1027
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:04.880
I love shred albums, even if I don't really necessarily
1028
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:05.840
have a good grasp of the.
1029
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:06.639
Technique at play.
1030
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:08.719
It's easy for me to get lost in them and
1031
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:12.079
it's just something I enjoy. So I don't have a
1032
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:13.960
negative opinion of Steve VII. I know a lot of
1033
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:15.719
people do I do you think you might be one
1034
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:18.679
of the more self serious of that school with Shredder?
1035
00:54:18.719 --> 00:54:20.719
But he played on a David Lee Roth album, so
1036
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:27.159
he's still cooler than ninety nine of the population anyway. Yeah,
1037
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:30.599
just what a great comparison to go from Roy Montgomery
1038
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:34.920
to Steve VI and just really emphasizes the breadth of
1039
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:39.159
a musical expression you can get with a guitar, and
1040
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.519
how they managed to be a pretty much completely opposite
1041
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:44.639
to the spectrum, not necessarily in technical.
1042
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:47.119
Ability, but just in play.
1043
00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:49.920
Style and the way they go about trying to invoke
1044
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:53.800
emotion could not be more different. With Steve VI, it's
1045
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:58.159
notes of plenty, often played a relatively fast although I
1046
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:00.280
will say this album is pretty chill. It's not like
1047
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:03.960
Michaelangelo bassio or anything. And with Roy it's sixty's a
1048
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:07.679
very slow, very meticulously plucked note and it just creates
1049
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:09.079
this massive atmosphere.
1050
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:11.159
It's very thought provoking to.
1051
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:12.920
Me that you can end up at basically the same
1052
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:16.719
place by doing so little versus so much. I can
1053
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:20.360
see the wrong kind of person being turned off by this,
1054
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:23.559
or not thinking there was enough there. But I love
1055
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:27.440
a great solo guitar album, and while this one is
1056
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:31.039
very relaxing, it's definitely not something I'm gonna be playing
1057
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:33.480
late at night on the road. This is an album
1058
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:35.639
I plan on revisiting. I look forward to coming back
1059
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:39.280
to it. It was very touching and mood and evoking
1060
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:43.880
and very relaxing. This calmed me down after the anxiety
1061
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:47.000
of bio Chord. I know Roy Montgomery, among a certain
1062
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:50.360
school of post rockheads, is pretty well regarded. I do
1063
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:52.679
see his name thrown out there, but all the same,
1064
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.440
I think more people, particularly the guitar heads out there,
1065
00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:56.679
should check him out.
1066
00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:59.039
Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I feel like I
1067
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:02.400
had something to add and then forgot it. Oh yeah.
1068
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:04.719
I listened to those in the opposite order, hit Roy
1069
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:08.559
Montgomery first and then moved on to Biocord. Roy chilled
1070
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.920
me out enough that I was really open to Biochords. Weirdness.
1071
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.920
Funny how it works sometimes, all right. I guess this
1072
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:19.519
brings us to the big granddaddy of them all, doesn't it.
1073
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:21.119
It sure does, all right.
1074
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:24.960
And that comes courtesy of Talk Talk in their final
1075
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:29.000
album Laughing Stock. Ah boy, Do I remember when I
1076
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:32.639
first heard this one. It was early on in the pandemic.
1077
00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:38.199
In an attempt to make sure I didn't just completely atropy,
1078
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:41.960
I took to taking walks around the local park and
1079
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:44.440
one day it was a little cloudy a little Cool,
1080
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:47.800
and I wanted to check out something new. I'd been
1081
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:51.039
meaning to check out Talk Talk and their specifically their
1082
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:55.360
later stuff for a long time. So that day, while
1083
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:57.840
I was out on that track, I listened to Spirit
1084
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.639
of Eden and Laughing Stock back to back, and it
1085
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:06.760
changed the game. Those albums are both just outstanding, and
1086
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:09.480
Laughing Stock, I think, is my prefer to the two,
1087
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:12.719
and that's one of those opinions that's it really comes
1088
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:15.280
down to the person, especially whether or not you like
1089
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:18.760
the albums in general, but something about Laughing Stock just
1090
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:23.280
really really works for me. Now, Talk Talk was down
1091
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:25.480
a member at this point. I think their bass player
1092
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:28.760
left just before this one came out. He was there
1093
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:31.440
for Spirit of Eden, but he was not here for
1094
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:34.639
this one. So it was down to the drummer whose
1095
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:38.920
name I forget, which shame on me, and Mark Hollis
1096
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:42.679
the kind of mastermind of the whole thing. As I understand,
1097
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:48.320
this album was constructed by setting forth a very simple progression,
1098
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:53.599
having like a drum rhythm and maybe a couple chords
1099
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:56.639
on an organ to give a guideline, and then they
1100
00:57:56.719 --> 00:58:01.239
just had musician after musician come in improvise over it
1101
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:04.000
in a dark room that was only lit by oil slides,
1102
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:09.400
and later Mark and the engineer got together and decided
1103
00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:12.360
what was best and turned those into songs. And for
1104
00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:20.280
something that happened so organically, it is just near perfection.
1105
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:25.480
These songs are just pure mood. They have that through
1106
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:29.440
line going. I guess one complaint or not one complaint,
1107
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:31.840
but one thing people have noted about a Talk Talk
1108
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:35.480
follow up band that I need to check out called Orang.
1109
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:41.559
Apparently their first album, they just improvised everything and it
1110
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:46.000
didn't work quite as well because Mark Hollis had a concept,
1111
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:48.599
He knew where he wanted the songs to start and end.
1112
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:51.039
He just needed some people to fill in the gaps
1113
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:55.719
and they did it perfectly. And on top of all this,
1114
00:58:55.920 --> 00:59:00.280
you have Mark Hollis himself doing just these these vocal
1115
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.039
said just pull on your heart strings and the lyrics
1116
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:07.679
have this really poetic, very spiritual quality to them, which
1117
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:11.320
it all comes together to make this album a bit
1118
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:14.880
of a spiritual experience almost, which I know sometimes it's
1119
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.880
corny to say that about an album, but I think
1120
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:19.599
this is one of those ones where you can get
1121
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:23.679
away with it and not just be scoffed at six
1122
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:28.159
excellent tracks of long building mood. I would say, in particular,
1123
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:31.880
After the Flood is probably one of my favorite post
1124
00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:35.280
rock songs that anybody's ever done. When that one builds
1125
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:38.039
up to its peaks, HiT's pulling those heart strings hard.
1126
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:41.119
If I'm in the right mood. Of course, this is
1127
00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:42.920
definitely an album you have to be in the proper
1128
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:47.800
mood for. But when it hits, it hits, and as
1129
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:50.000
is typical, when I love an album this much, my
1130
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:53.000
analysis falls completely to hell. So I'm going to turn
1131
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:54.880
it over to YouTube. Put a bit of a finer
1132
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:56.280
point on some of these descriptions.
1133
00:59:56.599 --> 00:59:58.400
Oh, that's great, because I have the same problem.
1134
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:00.840
Well, Roy under the Bus.
1135
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.440
In that case, it's all right, I will say.
1136
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:06.159
If you haven't yet, and I know I've recommended it before,
1137
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:08.199
if you haven't heard it yet, you should really listen
1138
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:11.639
to Mark's solo album, especially considering how much he liked
1139
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:16.719
Roy Montgomery, because talk about the pinnacle of minimalism.
1140
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:18.039
That album is amazing.
1141
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:19.519
I hold it in just as high regard as the
1142
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:21.880
Spirit of eating and laughing Stock. I have had less
1143
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:25.320
time with it, but it really is like a seamless
1144
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:28.679
continuation of what he was working on with these two albums,
1145
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:31.360
I do prefer Spirit of Eating, but that was really
1146
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:33.800
one of the reasons I wanted to talk about Laughingstock
1147
01:00:33.880 --> 01:00:36.920
first is so that we can come back to the
1148
01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:39.519
Spirit of Eating some other time. To me, and I
1149
01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:43.199
think you mentioned this on a Maybe lanterna earlier. Talk
1150
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:45.840
Talk to me has always sounded the most like what
1151
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.519
I expect post rock to be like if I.
1152
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:51.599
Can remove all of my knowledge of it.
1153
01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:54.079
And just try to picture it fresh. If I were
1154
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:56.320
to try to invent post rock, it would probably sound
1155
01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:59.239
something like Talk Talk, at least musically, just because it
1156
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:03.559
is such a incredible blend of so many different styles
1157
01:01:03.559 --> 01:01:09.519
of music, and it really just feels like this amalgam.
1158
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:10.159
Of a lot of things that have come before.
1159
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:12.519
Do you think one of the big big factors it
1160
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:15.800
really helps Talk Talk stand apart it is the fact
1161
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:19.679
that they started off coming from this new romantic scene.
1162
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:24.199
I think that's why Mark Hollis has this very unique
1163
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:28.960
ability to inject this deep emotional flavoring into this music.
1164
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:32.599
And this is kind of what I was talking about earlier.
1165
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.880
With not Drowning Waving and the comparison to like Tarious
1166
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:39.679
for Fears and stuff along those lines. Is, I do
1167
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:42.400
think I don't know. Talk Talk has always felt like
1168
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:44.840
the natural evolution of where a lot of those bands
1169
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:48.000
were going. I do think a lot of them were
1170
01:01:48.039 --> 01:01:53.880
probably cursed by commercial success. Mark Hoyllis was, I guess,
1171
01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:56.440
one of the only ones with the balls big enough
1172
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:58.480
to take a risk like you did with Spirit of
1173
01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:02.320
Eating and Laughing Stock and basically killed his career for
1174
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:04.719
a couple of years. Because I tink a long time
1175
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:06.800
for the general public to catch up to these albums,
1176
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:09.079
although thankfully at least they were critically acclaimed when they
1177
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:13.039
were released. But I think it's an experiment that paid off,
1178
01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:15.360
and I don't really know if there's anything that could
1179
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:17.280
be said about these albums that hasn't already been said.
1180
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:20.360
They're rightly herald of his masterpieces. I don't personally know
1181
01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:22.559
anybody that has listened to them that doesn't see it
1182
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:24.119
the same way you or I does, and that it
1183
01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:29.760
is a experience is almost religious wakening listening to these
1184
01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:32.400
albums for the first time. It sounds like pretentious to say,
1185
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:34.719
but if you're a fan of music, I just don't
1186
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.880
see how you can't be affected by this unless you're,
1187
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:40.920
you know, one of those guys that wakes up and
1188
01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:43.760
it doesn't matter if it's five am or five pm.
1189
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:45.239
You're listening to black and sledge core.
1190
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:48.360
Well hang on now, I just mean like.
1191
01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:50.440
People that are your one genre.
1192
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.719
Guys, maybe not, but I feel like, if you have
1193
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:56.119
any appreciation for, like the history of music, it's hard
1194
01:02:56.199 --> 01:03:01.400
not to see these two albums as a hallmark of
1195
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:03.119
Tucket human expression.
1196
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:06.280
Just that good love these albums. I hate that we
1197
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:07.400
lost Mark Hawis.
1198
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:11.440
I hate that his career after Talk Talk is so barren.
1199
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:14.119
In fairness, I think a lot of it was he
1200
01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:17.760
decided consciously to leave music behind a little while for
1201
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:18.719
his family's sake.
1202
01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:22.960
Yeah, yeah, But I mean much like you wonder if
1203
01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:26.559
all the fantastic Rick Marianas movies we could have had,
1204
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:29.199
at least he went out on top.
1205
01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:31.360
All right, Well, I think that might be all I have.
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All Right, Hey, that's fair. When he calls something one
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of the pinnacles of human expression, where do you go
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from there?
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Exactly as I already mentioned, I really have nothing else
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to report listening wise this week other than sampling some
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of that Steve Vie album. I'll listening to that. Kim
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Petras on Coconuts several times. Yeah, did you listen anything
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else this week?
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I had a couple things, So let me pull that
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up quick and I'll try to go through it relatively quick,
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since I don't want to monopolize here. First up, this week,
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we listened to an album called Hallucination Scene by the
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band Black Magnet. They are a contemporary industrial metal band
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that is just one of the best at what they do.
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They apparently got a new album coming up, and I
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am stoked for that. Listen to the side project from
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Andrew Slink of Drab Majesty or Klinko one of these days,
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I'm gonna know if I'm saying it right. But his
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other band is called vr Sex, which, yeah, one of
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those one of those bands that as a overweight guy
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with a mustache, I don't think I'm ever gonna wear
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their shirt. But they're out in Human Traffic Jam from
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twenty nineteen. Awesome stuff, post punk with like blown out
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eighty sounding synthesizers. It's great. Maybe not quite as good
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as Drab Majesty, but we're splitting hairs by even saying it.
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It's the same guy. After that, listen to the band
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Some or maybe it's som I don't know their new album,
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The Shape of Everything. I know this description will probably
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put you off of them. They market themselves as Deftones
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meets Tam and Paula, and what that works out into
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is just sort of very atmospheric, glistening poppy metal with
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very high vocals. I liked it. I thought it was good.
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I can see other people not liking it, but I
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thought it was pretty cool.
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Well, I'll give it a shot since you liked it,
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but I'm have I missed your yucksticker ready to place
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on that Based on that description, that seems dangerous to.
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Me, not meant for human consumption. But you know my
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thoughts on deafness.
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What else we got The band Era and their demo
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called Demo. It's experimental black metal that is totally anonymous,
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and it's cool, plays with the dissonance sound that's so
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common these days, usually deviates into like really weird, rhythmic,
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choppy experimentation. I just really like what they've got going.
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Just hope they're not nice. Listen to the band's That's
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sl Ae Mash Together GT. They just got signed to
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Century Media, so decided to check out their earlier album
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from Van Records. That was called The Wheel. It's just
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really good black and heavy metal. Definitely more black metal
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in the vocals than anything else, but it's there and
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the rest of the music. Pretty cool album after that.
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I mean, I've talked about the War on Drugs last
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album plenty of times that was on there. Checked out
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a couple albums from band Blu Serro, kind of country
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rock colpunk gets thrown at them. I liked them. They
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were new to me, but the singer's got a really
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gruff voice that I think suits the really twangy Memphis
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rock sound. They got going very well. Listen to a
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couple albums from Israel and Nash. I guess the rand
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Miser we talked about them is unfortunately gone, so I'll
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just reiterate my points here. Rain Plans and Topaz both
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excellent albums if you like Americana and Let's See. Oh yeah,
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almost fought about the weather Station. They are a folky
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kind of indie rock band. Woman who sings for them
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has a great voice, good smooth stuff and close out
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listen to the album Assassinas from Celeste or Celeste whatever.
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They are a blackened post metal sludge kind of band
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out of France. And they are damned good at what
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they do. Their album was the first one announced for
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twenty twenty two that I got really hyped about, and
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it didn't let me down. Just damn. Those guys are
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good keeping it real heavy while also tugging at your
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heart strings. But that'll do it for my weeks listening.
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So uh, that's about it, all right?
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Well, I guess I will just mention next week, after
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many mentions and threats of doing it, we are finally
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going to tackle our first one rap episode. We're gonna
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be talking about industrial hip hop. I'm excited for you
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dig into that. But on that note, I think we
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get off here and probably go to bed.
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At least you can go to bed a reasonable hour
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this time.
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Yeah, how about that?
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All right? Well, signing off. Then I was Ian, I
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was Zach, See you around, see ya