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Welcome to another episode of Not Another Football Podcast with myself,
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Simon Dornley. What are you looking at me for? I'm just.
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Jackie McMorris.
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And we're delighted our next guest is Mark Sharp from
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Mark Sharp and the Bicycle Thieves. How are we doing, mate?
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Oh, very well, boys.
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Thanks for coming.
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Good to see you.
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You've been busy?
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Very busy.
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It's actually been one of the busiest summers for us.
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It's been out at the Tide Park by Lewis Capaldi.
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Yeah.
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Then we were in Boston and then we just... just
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finished a gig doing Where You Can't Beat It at
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Queen's Park, so that was good.
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Was that the one you invited me to and I
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couldn't make it?
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I invited you to look at him, you can't make it,
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you're a busy man.
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I know. Boston, what was the Boston thing?
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I've seen that.
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It was after the World Cup though, was it not?
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It was for the World Cup final.
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Was it for the final?
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It was after part of the World Cup final.
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Magic.
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How did that come about?
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We were in Iona playing a festival and it was
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like five o'clock in the morning we'd finished playing the
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festival that Newton Faulkner was playing it it was quite
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good to see him he was class so we played
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the gig I guess it takes about six hours to
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get up to Iona for a start so it's a
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trek up there three different ferries played that festival and
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then we're kind of at the end of the night
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we're in the tent I think we drank quite a
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Newton Faulkner's whiskey and we're in the tent it was
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about five o'clock in the morning we're sleeping and there's
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a phone call going on and I'm kind of like
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half sleeping like is this for real what's happening here
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And I could just hear, like, it's five o'clock in
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the morning here, stop phoning me.
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And that was kind of the end of it. I
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was like, what was that all about?
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And it was my mate, the drummer, James Grant, his pal, Dobby,
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Andrew Dobby, was phoning him. He was over down the Cone,
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the Cone final, taking the Cone for Glasgow, to Gloucester.
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He was that guy.
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And so he basically phoned saying, I've met this guy at,
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I think it was a Red Sox game. he's got
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to do a big after party, I says, I know
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the band for the job, do you want to come over,
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he'll fly you over, got 17 hour notice. I know
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that's what I was saying, because I thought he was
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on social media, it did see walk in at the
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last minute, it was at the blue, totally, and I
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was like, we spoke about it in the morning, and
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we were like, nah, we'll get home, and that'll be it,
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this will be forgotten about, but I kind of think
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we got, we were like, Glencoe, started to sober up
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a wee bit, and we thought, let's look at flights,
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and just see if it's possible, and, we were like,
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doable but everything's got to go to plan there can't
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be any delays with flights or anything like that we'll
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make the.
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Game immigration and all I had.
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To get the visas and stuff at the last minute
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but everything that could have went wrong somehow went right
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the after party was in Boston the after party was
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in Boston I think it was called the Anchor it
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was like the home pub for the Scotland fans for when.
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They first went over and I think they just.
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The guy was like, I'll fly yous out.
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And then I think he realised, once we sent the
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price over, I think he realised all the way there.
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Is that for always? I don't know, it's per person.
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Then he went, fuck it, bring yous over.
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So I flew us out and I think there was
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only meant to be about 250 people there. There's two
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and a half thousand people there. So we got there
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and we were just seeing this big crowd and we
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were like, that's not for us.
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So where was it?
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Was it in one of the stadiums or not?
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No, the actual venue is an outdoor venue.
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Right, okay.
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And they'd built a stage and stuff like that for us,
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and they've got the game on the big screen.
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So I was absolutely bouncing. I was like, this has
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got to be nuts. Still a bit surreal. You're like,
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how did that even happen? I'd never even been over
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to the States before.
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So was it your manager or your mate that put
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your name forward?
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Our drummer, James Grant's mate, Andrew Dovey, he's the cone
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guy so they're just pals and he just he's been
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I've got the I know the band here so he's
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just kind of like bigging it up bigging us up
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as well he's like I've got the best band in
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the UK coming over to do this it's funny isn't
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it and then we as we were going on the
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stage we were giving the guy he's a good hype
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man Andrew Dowie we were giving the guy a whiskey
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and he's like this is the best whiskey in Scotland
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and I'm just nonsense but the crowd were absolutely.
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Milking it spontaneous anything like that happened to you before
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the gigs?
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Nah we've had some of that stuff happen to us
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but that was I didn't expect that to happen that
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was just so last minute and as I say everything
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had to go to plan and it did so it
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was good.
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Brilliant so obviously you started out the rest of the
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band I think I've met a couple of you over
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the years are you pals from school? how did it
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come about?
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No so you're just in the same area we're bass
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player Connor he's pals with my wee cousin And I
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was just getting a band going, probably nine, ten years
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ago now. I was just starting to look for folk
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to play in the band. And my wee cousin was like,
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Connor plays bass. And then members have changed over time,
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but Connor, Cammy, the guitarist, and Darren, he plays keys.
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They all went to school together. And James's.
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He's a bit older, but I met him through just music.
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It was actually Wee Jack for the Snuts. He was
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recording in Glasgow with this guy, James Grant. And then
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he went, you need to go and record with this guy.
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So I recorded with him. And now he's in the band.
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So I'm a talent from your area and over the years.
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I don't know what's going on. What for him? I
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think we always say it's like... Something in the water.
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Something in the water.
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You feel as if you've maybe just influenced each other,
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inspired each other, kind of?
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Definitely. There's also nothing else to do in Whitburn. Do
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you know what I mean?
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You play football, and then you get to the age
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where you're like, I've been good enough to play professionally.
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So you pick up a guitar.
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It's raining all the time, so you need to do
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something indoors, do you know what I mean? So, aye, that's...
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It's mad to think of the people that's came from there.
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Susan Boyle's near there as well, do you know what
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I mean?
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Blackburn.
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Yeah.
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So aye, we've got everything to find Susan Boyle.
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How did they come up with the name then?
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I was actually just, I think I was in HMV
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and I seen there was a film called The Bicycle Thief.
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It's like an old Italian film from the 50s. So
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I was like, that's classic. Just nick that.
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That's how he came about.
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He said they were not stolen bikes.
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No, you said the other guys were stealing bikes when
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they were younger.
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Well, there's a good chance there were a couple of
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dodgy boys in the band like you might have been.
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But the guitarist actually got his bike stolen. I don't
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know if you see it. It was one of the papers.
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The papers were milking up because it was a bicycle thief.
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He left it at Bathgate train station.
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And somebody nicked it. But it was a good bike
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publicity for us.
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So you're always the front man? Your intention's always to
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be the front guy?
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Aye, so when I started that, I didn't play an instrument,
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so I joined a band because they heard me singing
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at a house party, and then I just kept singing
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after that, and then I started writing my own stuff,
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and picked up the guitar, and aye, just always been
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the kind of front man.
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Does that just come naturally to you, the writing?
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It does actually, I struggle maybe with instruments, I've not
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really got the discipline to kind of learn properly, but
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I can write songs on piano or guitar. It's mad.
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Aye, it's nuts. But I think melodies come quite naturally.
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The words are hard to define, but I probably spend
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the most time on the words, because I want to
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perfect that.
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I think that's something I'm really, that's my thing, I'd say.
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And whether you kind of base yourself when you were younger,
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what inspired you, the music, singing?
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Aye, I've My mum and dad just loved music, so
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there was always music about the house. There would have
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been Rod Stewart and the Faces, The Beatles, David Bowie,
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just a bit of everything really. So we just grew
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up through music and you naturally fall in love with it,
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do you know what I mean?
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You were saying Rod, because we were talking before you
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came in, you were saying Kelly Jones, weren't you? But
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there was a bit of Rod there, that kind of
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gravelly voice.
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Aye. It's probably from that, you know what I mean?
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You subconsciously maybe just started doing that, do you know
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what I mean? You eventually find your voice, you try
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to imitate loads of people, and then you find your
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own sort of voice through it. I've heard that before
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with Kelly Jones and Robert Stewart.
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Is it a tough career?
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It is tough, I keep going, because you get so
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many setbacks, so many promises, it just never happens.
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And it is tough. But you just see if you're
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doing it for the right reasons. You'll enjoy it.
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Enjoy it, aye. The first time I came across you
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was in lockdown. I don't know if you remember. You
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were doing a gig. It was for a little lad
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that had died, I think.
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It was Sam. Aye.
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Aye. And it was through the wee boy Adam Frame
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that we had in the bar singing. And I came across.
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It was almost like an online gig, wasn't it?
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Aye.
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You were playing a video in black and white. I
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remember it rightly. It was a kind of black and
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white video you were when yous were singing?
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Might have been, aye.
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I just remember us doing it in my mate's garden,
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and he was washing the stuff and that.
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I remember that as well. I remember the washing, but
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I'm sure it was in black and white.
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The barbeque was doing his knickers, didn't we? Wow.
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So those type of things at that time for you, obviously,
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with being an artist and wanting to go out and perform,
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you're stuck away. They must have been difficult for you.
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Aye, definitely. That was weird, because it was like the
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music industry was the last thing to come back. It
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was real weird. We played the last ever gig in
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the UK.
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It was with Lewis Capaldi at P & J in Aberdeen.
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And the Celtic Rangers game got cancelled that day.
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Right, I remember that, right just before that.
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And we were travelling up. We just played down south.
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Everything was flying for us at that time. We'd sold
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out St Luke's. We'd sold out a tour down south.
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And we were going to be supporting the biggest artist
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in Scotland for generations.
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Dovered.
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I can't go with that. we played that gig.
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I remember the van broke down on the way there.
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We were seeing the games getting cancelled, all these gigs
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getting cancelled. We were getting messages from some angry fans saying,
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you'd better not play this gig and all this.
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That's not the day we is. We'll play it if
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Lewis is putting on, do you know what I mean?
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And as I say, the van broke down, but.
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I had a gig going ahead, it was brilliant, and
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there was a free bar after it, and then I'd
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never seen anybody.
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For about four years.
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So you feel you had to start all over again then?
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Aye, definitely.
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And then, see, any time you take a wee break,
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you feel like you haven't started on again. It's mad industry.
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You'll bring out a song, you spend years writing, spend
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a fortune recording, and.
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Go, brilliant, can't wait for the next one.
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You're like, just enjoy that one for a few months,
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and then we can kick on, but it's different because.
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Again you've all got other jobs I'm assuming so you're
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juggling that as well.
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Most of the band I do this full time and
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the drummer he's he's the same he's like a composer
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so he records artists and stuff like that and that's
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his full time job makes wee jingles and that makes a.
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Bomb so who do you do that stuff for?
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He does it for everybody I think he's got a
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song on BBC I do it for different things stuff
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like that we've done some stuff together for like there's
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a company in Switzerland and we've done like sort of
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like a full act they paid us to write an
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album so we did an album for them and it
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just goes out to like tv shows adverts and stuff
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like that right whatever it's like a big list of
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songs and people pick out a song and just your
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luck really.
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And you've mentioned obviously lewis there a couple of times
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hyde park must have been massive but you went and
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toured did you go and tour in europe with lewis
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yeah is that just again from that area and known
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each other and your mates yeah pretty much i mean
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Even before anything kind of kicked off with him, we'd
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be at each other's gigs. I remember years ago, we
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played a gig in Armadale.
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I can't remember the name of the pub.
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Is that where we went? With Gary Greig? Was that Armadale?
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Foltis.
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Foltis. We sang one song that night. Ah, it had
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been in Foltis. In the Grange, I think it was.
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Aye, that was in the Grange.
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I remember being choked with the cold and hearing you
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as well.
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It was raging.
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So I couldn't get out.
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But I remember us playing a gig and it was
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obviously me and Lewis. and both our dads and the
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barman that was what was there and then to see
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him do that and then do his thing all the
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way he's doing it isn't credible but we've just always
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supported each other when we've been in bands and done
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solo stuff and then it's just kicked off and he's
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like come and join us and he's doing stuff.
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So where in the European tour?
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I did a full month so it was I think
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we started in Poland finished and they actually got caught
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short because they were He lost his voice and stuff
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like that and he was struggling at that time. But
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we played dive with Sweden, Netherlands, Germany, Ireland, kind of everywhere.
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That was brilliant and it finished in Spain. I think
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the last gig was... Anyway, I actually went back out
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and did Milan.
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He was just constantly travelling then?
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Aye, brilliant.
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What a life.
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Because he put us up in his tour bus.
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Right.
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He had his own tour bus, but we were in
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another tour bus as well.
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It's trucks and.
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Just a mad experience. So it was great for him
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to take us out. We look at that gig we
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did in front of our dads and then to take
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it on.
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It was incredible.
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Being to where you've got to.
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Aye.
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That must be the Hyde Park one then. That must
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be amazing. Was it yourselves... Lewis, who else was playing
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in that?
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Luke Levoque played as well. He played there?
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Aye, he's from the same area, he's Bathgate as well. Aye,
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it was quite... It's good.
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To see from that kind of thing, isn't it? Bringing
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boys that he's obviously grew up with, performing in areas,
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you're talking about the two dazs, and then no forgetting
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about his great playing.
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Because he's a popular man, and everybody wants to support him.
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He's got loads of friends that are in the music industry,
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and he could give it to them, but he's... He
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always says, actually, I like your music.
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That's the thing. It's not just because you're my pal.
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I like your music.
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Which must be a buzz. Aye.
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He said that before and I'm like, whatever. But his
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pal's like, no, he plays your music all the time
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and stuff. So it's like, that's amazing to hear.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Of course it is. Your album, obviously, that came through
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to see, was that, I can't believe it. That's Bathgate.
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2023? Aye.
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Already?
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Mental time flies.
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He's played with Dictator.
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Dictator played.
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He played first.
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Yeah.
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Was that the release date of your album?
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That was the album launch. I think that was the
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day we got number one that day in Scotland.
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Brilliant.
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So that was just a big party. We went all out.
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Remember the big inflatable moon?
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Aye.
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Aye.
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And went and made it with the lights and just, like,
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no profit off this, let's just This is a party.
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It's actually Times Flat. When I was reading up on
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it a wee bit there, I couldn't believe it was
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three years. So you're talking there about the pressure of
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having to get something else out there with your fans
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and stuff. Is there another album in the... I know
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you've released a couple of singles.
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Yeah, we're working on one right now.
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So that's the next step for us, just trying to
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get this album the best it can be. Personally, I
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think it's better than the first album. I think the
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first album was more like collection of other songs that
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we've done over the years and we've put it together
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like a.
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Greatest hits type thing.
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But this one it's like we're writing songs specifically for
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this album and I feel like we're getting better with
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the songwriting and stuff as well so I feel like
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we're in a good place with the songs at the moment.
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Hi guys, as you probably well know by now, we
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have signed up for the London Marathon next April and
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we have some fantastic people supporting us, groups supporting us,
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we're doing it for a fantastic cause, or two causes,
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who are we doing it for?
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We're doing it for Headway UK and the Concilium Sports Foundation.
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Yep, so we're going to have some updated videos of
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our progress and our training and everything else that it
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takes to get us over the line. He's emphasised that
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time doesn't matter.
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Doesn't matter.
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As long as we complete it. There'll be a link
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in the bio for any charity donations. We're going to
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be raising as much money as we can over the
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next period of time. Our training starts very soon. And, yeah,
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look forward to some updates on here. Hopefully no injuries.
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But it's going to take a bit of time in
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the studio and then hopefully get out next year.
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Next year. And then take it on tour, obviously.
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Mm-hm. class that's the plan anyway super so.
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They're talking about obviously the overriding thing the football side
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of it it's not a hidden secret that you're a
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big Celtic fan growing up did you play yourself were
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you quite keen football you said maybe you got to
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a stage where you didn't reckon.
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You were good enough no I think anywhere from everybody
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just plays football you're in the streets all the time
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constantly so I played football I was at Falkirk for
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I played for Falkirk for about four years at the
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youth and then I think under 16, 17's.
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Position me striker right.
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And I sometimes played a full line as well your
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boyfriend Las Vegas played at Falkirk didn't he no I
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didn't I heard he was a better player Scott Arfield
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was there when I was he was a few years
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older but he was there when I was there right
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can't remember the manager was Eddie May Yogi and Eddie
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May were the managers.
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That's when I was there.
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Aye.
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I was there then. Aye. I'm not going to ask it,
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but I will ask it. So what age were you then?
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So I'd have been.
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Because you'd have been a player there.
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Aye.
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What year would.
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Well, we were still wearing the strips, like the player
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strips that were getting the handmaidens for the 90s.
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We were young lads.
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We got to the final with Yogi, played Rangers in
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the final.
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And then Yogi left to go to Hibs and then
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Eddie May stepped up with Elvis and I left I
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left in January just after January when Elvis took over.
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I remember because I remember because that was the youth
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party that was the year when I crossed I think
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Falkirk went up that year but because the stadium wasn't
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ready they didn't but the youth team went up so
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we were getting hammered I just kind of lost a
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bit of interest.
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So you'd be based at Stirling Uni, the games?
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That's right.
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They had a really good set-up. A lot of good
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young players came through.
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Arfield, Scobie, quite a few other young boys. But when
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we went down at the end of that year with Elvis,
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they got rid of the academy shortly after that.
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They've brought it back again now, but.
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It was a good set up, he was trained at
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Little Kearse when I first went there and then I
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ended up in Stirling. But they were always wanting to
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play football, it was like drilling, proper passing, pass.
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The ball, move and that, it was proper drilling.
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Eddie May was good, he would have been in charge
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of the academy Eddie when he came up, I liked Eddie.
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I was there for about four years.
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I was there for about four years, aye. I think
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under 12.
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Or something How did that finish for you then?
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I think we went up to Aberdeen and got beat
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10-0 and we got beat off Rangers 9-0 and all
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my pals were playing with Rangers at the time so
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we had a team in Livingston Murison and a lot
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of us went to Rangers and then they were signing
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players and stuff like that like Sandy Clark's lad Nicky
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he was coaching us and he turned that team to
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Rangers I think there was a few teams wanting to
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sign the whole team because we were unbeaten, we were
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winning like 10, 30 and all. I forget who it was.
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So like Danny Olsen was in that team. Rhys McCabe
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obviously Nicky Clark there's triplets from South Africa they were
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quality Darren Cole as well and a lot of them
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went on and played Champions League football for Rangers and stuff.
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Darren Cole made them in loan at Partick and all.
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I remember playing a few we played a few games
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up at Morayfield I remember I can't remember who we
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were playing but I remember John Fleck coming on and
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like Just ripped it up.
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He was decent, John.
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He was unbelievable. And then that's when I came off.
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He came on. Then the ball for the right wing.
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Banged into the top bag. Two minutes later, they're the
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same with the other foot.
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And I went, I'll probably leave. And that's how I
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ended up at Falkirk. But that was, I just loved
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the way it fit. Well, then and again, you just
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feel like you love that wee bit.
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I kept playing. I was playing junior football until I
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was about 24. Right. But I was gigging every weekend.
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That's what I'm saying. So the music had kicked in
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by then.
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So you were training twice a week.
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Were you already doing that? So the Fall Cup, were
501
00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:01.259
you already... Was the music interest there?
502
00:21:01.420 --> 00:21:01.799
No, no.
503
00:21:01.819 --> 00:21:02.220
I never even.
504
00:21:02.980 --> 00:21:05.140
thought about anything like that then it wasn't probably until
505
00:21:05.220 --> 00:21:08.220
after Paul Cook was maybe 16 or something that I
506
00:21:09.089 --> 00:21:11.230
started getting into music.
507
00:21:11.470 --> 00:21:12.950
You think he was into music I know he was a.
508
00:21:12.910 --> 00:21:15.410
Celtic fan aye that's right I know he was a
509
00:21:15.430 --> 00:21:15.970
Celtic fan.
510
00:21:30.029 --> 00:21:33.390
Yeah, brilliant. He made the right decision though.
511
00:21:33.789 --> 00:21:36.190
So the Bicycle Thieves, was that your first band or
512
00:21:36.210 --> 00:21:37.299
were you in something before that?
513
00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:38.890
No, I was in loads of bands before it.
514
00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:41.839
Aye, so I was singing at a house party, just
515
00:21:41.859 --> 00:21:45.059
like Oasis songs and Arctic Monkeys songs. I didn't know
516
00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:46.500
there was a band there, but they didn't have a
517
00:21:46.500 --> 00:21:48.940
singer and they asked me to join. I'd never thought
518
00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:50.759
of anything like that kind of stuff at the time.
519
00:21:50.779 --> 00:21:53.799
So I said aye and I've been doing it ever.
520
00:21:53.660 --> 00:21:54.269
Since to be fair.
521
00:21:55.089 --> 00:21:56.369
Can you remember your first gig with them?
522
00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:02.079
Aye we we played somewhere in Broxbourne don't ask me
523
00:22:02.099 --> 00:22:04.890
the name we played in Broxbourne and it was like
524
00:22:04.910 --> 00:22:07.569
because we were still young at school everybody from school
525
00:22:07.589 --> 00:22:09.950
came to us sold out and I remember going in
526
00:22:10.309 --> 00:22:12.809
and this guy who put the gig on never seen
527
00:22:12.849 --> 00:22:15.990
him since but he was he was like I'll give
528
00:22:16.009 --> 00:22:19.819
you this now 50 quid 100 quid and I'll give
529
00:22:19.859 --> 00:22:23.380
you the rest after once more folk come in and
530
00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:26.079
I remember we hadn't even started the set yet I
531
00:22:26.099 --> 00:22:28.369
remember I think we went out to get a drink
532
00:22:28.430 --> 00:22:30.089
or something like that, came back in, and he's getting
533
00:22:30.109 --> 00:22:34.079
carried down the stairs, spewed down his cell, he's absolutely rast.
534
00:22:34.740 --> 00:22:36.440
And I've not seen him since, or we've never got
535
00:22:36.460 --> 00:22:38.039
that money.
536
00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:42.079
But aye, he deleted his number, and everything, so aye,
537
00:22:42.299 --> 00:22:45.390
that was the first impression I had on that industry,
538
00:22:46.109 --> 00:22:46.680
and I've loved it.
539
00:22:46.829 --> 00:22:49.549
What about when you're away, I mean, with the band,
540
00:22:49.769 --> 00:22:53.190
if you're touring, do you never get any fights or that,
541
00:22:53.269 --> 00:22:54.690
or disagreements, or?
542
00:22:55.210 --> 00:22:58.059
Nah, but to be fair, we're actually alright, we're, where
543
00:22:58.660 --> 00:23:01.700
you sometimes have a bit of discussion when you're in
544
00:23:01.779 --> 00:23:04.740
the studio on songs, but none of us are.
545
00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:06.819
Kind of there.
546
00:23:07.259 --> 00:23:10.079
No, I know you touch wood, but the corner on Cammy,
547
00:23:10.099 --> 00:23:12.940
they're like best pals from school, so they'll maybe have
548
00:23:14.059 --> 00:23:17.240
a fight, but they'll have a go at each other.
549
00:23:17.460 --> 00:23:19.950
It's just pals, isn't it?
550
00:23:19.970 --> 00:23:22.319
The touring bit must be a bit higher. Just the
551
00:23:22.339 --> 00:23:23.619
boys away type of stuff.
552
00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:29.019
Unbelievable. That's probably my best experiences I've had to Capaldi tour.
553
00:23:29.589 --> 00:23:32.970
Because you play the gig. It's so easy because you're
554
00:23:32.990 --> 00:23:33.549
the support band.
555
00:23:33.569 --> 00:23:35.069
You know what I mean? So you're playing half an hour.
556
00:23:35.089 --> 00:23:40.150
Nobody's there for you, but everybody's in. So you get
557
00:23:40.230 --> 00:23:44.440
an audience crowd as well playing the gig. And then
558
00:23:44.460 --> 00:23:46.700
you go off stage, just enjoy yourself. Get on the
559
00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:49.299
bus and you're waking up a new city every day.
560
00:23:49.750 --> 00:23:51.690
I remember we woke up one morning, I opened the
561
00:23:51.710 --> 00:23:53.690
blinds and we were at the Amsterdam Arena, or was
562
00:23:53.750 --> 00:23:54.069
it Cruyff?
563
00:23:54.130 --> 00:23:55.049
Was it Cruyff Arena?
564
00:23:55.170 --> 00:24:00.740
I'm like, did the tour, did soundcheck, catering was amazing.
565
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.400
Then you play the gig, and then I just see
566
00:24:03.420 --> 00:24:03.759
it again.
567
00:24:04.299 --> 00:24:04.619
Class.
568
00:24:05.220 --> 00:24:07.589
I was obviously, because I was, I wasn't drinking as
569
00:24:07.619 --> 00:24:09.609
much because you've got to look after the throat when
570
00:24:09.630 --> 00:24:11.049
you're playing.
571
00:24:11.470 --> 00:24:13.150
Were there any other football stadiums you played in there,
572
00:24:13.329 --> 00:24:13.750
in that tour?
573
00:24:14.269 --> 00:24:16.289
No we didn't play it was all arenas we didn't
574
00:24:16.309 --> 00:24:19.380
play any football stadiums we just parked outside that alright
575
00:24:19.390 --> 00:24:21.279
so you never played in there nah I can't remember
576
00:24:21.299 --> 00:24:23.980
the place but we played at a different arena but
577
00:24:24.099 --> 00:24:26.500
aye it was all Mercedes Benz arena and stuff like
578
00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:26.940
that and.
579
00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:30.940
You know you just you just take it in.
580
00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:33.319
Your stride at the time as we say that's three
581
00:24:33.339 --> 00:24:35.940
years ago you're looking back now and you're like did
582
00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:40.160
that did that happen did that happen so lucky to get.
583
00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:41.690
The Hyde Park one must be the same as well
584
00:24:41.710 --> 00:24:43.289
though many folk would have been at that.
585
00:24:44.750 --> 00:24:47.450
I'm not sure but like we were only on the
586
00:24:47.470 --> 00:24:50.569
main stage we were only on one of the smaller
587
00:24:50.589 --> 00:24:53.240
stages but that's the biggest stage see like the stage
588
00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:55.079
Lewis played on that's like the biggest stage I've ever
589
00:24:55.099 --> 00:24:55.859
seen it.
590
00:24:55.940 --> 00:24:58.720
Was absolutely massive.
591
00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:01.019
The stage we were on was quite good because it
592
00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:03.539
was like right next to the entrance so people were
593
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.430
coming in and then listening it was quite great but
594
00:25:07.630 --> 00:25:10.150
I'd seen the Libertines there years ago and I thought
595
00:25:10.369 --> 00:25:12.210
it'd be amazing to play here I think the Pogues
596
00:25:12.230 --> 00:25:13.170
played as well.
597
00:25:13.509 --> 00:25:15.650
Pinch yourself stuff in it as you've seen bands that
598
00:25:15.710 --> 00:25:18.390
you look up to and you're playing there after them.
599
00:25:18.730 --> 00:25:22.710
So was the dream then to use Headline in it?
600
00:25:22.849 --> 00:25:25.269
That would be aye the dream's always been to headline
601
00:25:25.289 --> 00:25:27.569
the Barrowlands that's always been our kind of you played
602
00:25:27.589 --> 00:25:29.829
the Barrowlands? played the Barrowlands but to headline it and
603
00:25:30.569 --> 00:25:32.369
to do it with the band because we've only done
604
00:25:32.390 --> 00:25:33.990
it acoustic we've done it twice we've done it with
605
00:25:34.009 --> 00:25:37.990
Snuts and Will Lewis but it was just acoustic.
606
00:25:37.970 --> 00:25:40.130
But to headline that would be your that's a dream aye.
607
00:25:40.730 --> 00:25:42.759
That's I just want to get a get the focus
608
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.380
on that and zone in and let's make that the
609
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.119
goal do you know what I mean I think most
610
00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:52.589
Scottish bands that's the dream headline the Barrowlands is.
611
00:25:51.769 --> 00:25:56.549
It hard this bit getting out there like the promotions
612
00:25:57.490 --> 00:25:59.630
aye definitely I think it's quite hard to even book
613
00:25:59.650 --> 00:26:02.509
the Barrowlands as well it's always booked.
614
00:26:02.349 --> 00:26:06.390
It but we'll certainly try anyway that's the.
615
00:26:06.269 --> 00:26:10.170
Goal it's iconic isn't it just for every band it's
616
00:26:10.210 --> 00:26:13.259
just that iconic platform to go and play the barras
617
00:26:13.660 --> 00:26:16.380
what stuff were you into when you were younger then
618
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:18.299
what bands.
619
00:26:18.619 --> 00:26:24.359
Eh Oasis Stone Roses em Arctic Monkeys I feel like
620
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:27.309
that like the Arctic Monkeys was a that's I was
621
00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:31.750
too young to get the Oasis yeah but em my
622
00:26:31.809 --> 00:26:34.930
Arctic Monkeys I know I just I just missed the
623
00:26:34.970 --> 00:26:37.730
Oasis too young for Oasis no but you know that'll
624
00:26:37.769 --> 00:26:39.609
be your that'll be your band because you were there
625
00:26:39.630 --> 00:26:41.819
when they first came on the scene So the Arctic Monkeys,
626
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:42.740
that was the first.
627
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.200
You've gone all damn roses as well, to be fair.
628
00:26:45.589 --> 00:26:46.910
So Arctic Monkeys was your.
629
00:26:46.829 --> 00:26:49.650
Bit when you were heavily influenced by them?
630
00:26:49.930 --> 00:26:50.589
Aye.
631
00:26:51.170 --> 00:26:53.970
So I would say that, but I just listened to Oasis.
632
00:26:54.009 --> 00:26:57.519
But a bit of everything. I love soul music as well.
633
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:00.680
Otis Redding's my favourite singer the whole time.
634
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:01.609
I like Otis, aye.
635
00:27:01.619 --> 00:27:02.900
He's got an incredible voice.
636
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:04.779
I named my wee dog after him.
637
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.309
Did you? Oh, probably.
638
00:27:08.089 --> 00:27:11.099
Aye, so I love old music, to be fair, but aye,
639
00:27:11.109 --> 00:27:12.970
that's my kind of, that's my scene.
640
00:27:13.009 --> 00:27:15.369
Did you get on the Oasis thing last year? I
641
00:27:15.369 --> 00:27:15.710
was there.
642
00:27:16.009 --> 00:27:20.779
Lucky enough. I was there, aye. I got Murrayfield. Aye, amazing.
643
00:27:20.859 --> 00:27:22.819
And I'm on the ballot for this next year.
644
00:27:22.859 --> 00:27:23.470
Ain't we all, aye?
645
00:27:23.779 --> 00:27:26.680
Aye. I know. You're surely getting some freebies.
646
00:27:26.700 --> 00:27:28.720
No. Nah. I hope so.
647
00:27:28.740 --> 00:27:30.710
I had Andy McLaren text me last night, have you
648
00:27:30.809 --> 00:27:32.450
sought me out for four tickets for away?
649
00:27:32.490 --> 00:27:33.809
You'll be getting an idea.
650
00:27:34.130 --> 00:27:36.230
It's bad enough with Celtic games, isn't it?
651
00:27:36.369 --> 00:27:37.849
I was saying when I did the Celtic TV, I
652
00:27:37.869 --> 00:27:39.430
was just going to hide in there in one of
653
00:27:39.470 --> 00:27:41.410
the offices and just wait for the gig.
654
00:27:41.710 --> 00:27:43.529
No, you'll be fine. Everybody knows that you're a big
655
00:27:43.549 --> 00:27:45.960
Oasis fan as well, so you'll be getting an idea.
656
00:27:45.980 --> 00:27:49.240
Well, hopefully. Hopefully that's the plan, isn't it? We'll wait
657
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:49.599
and see.
658
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:51.359
I missed it last year. I was meant to go
659
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.740
to the one in Dublin with you.
660
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:54.859
At Croke Park. It was amazing.
661
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:56.119
Amazing.
662
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:57.339
Slean Castle next year.
663
00:27:57.539 --> 00:27:59.779
Slean Castle, which I've already played before.
664
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:00.259
Aye.
665
00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:03.759
Some good venues actually next year. But it's just if
666
00:28:03.779 --> 00:28:04.700
you get the tickets, isn't it?
667
00:28:04.829 --> 00:28:05.089
I know.
668
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.529
It's this mad registering codes.
669
00:28:07.569 --> 00:28:10.049
Hopefully it'll be a bit easier, not easier, but a
670
00:28:10.069 --> 00:28:12.130
bit more organised than being a ballet, do you know
671
00:28:12.150 --> 00:28:12.509
what I mean?
672
00:28:12.529 --> 00:28:15.789
So would you say they were better last, when you
673
00:28:15.829 --> 00:28:19.109
watched them then, or when you watched them at Loch Lomond?
674
00:28:20.250 --> 00:28:21.730
That's an iconic gig.
675
00:28:21.750 --> 00:28:26.460
Loch Lomond was, as he says, iconic and from what
676
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:28.759
I remember amazing, but what I took from the last
677
00:28:28.779 --> 00:28:32.440
year was it was just polished and it was like
678
00:28:32.500 --> 00:28:35.500
a big kind of loving, everybody was there for you
679
00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:38.819
know 20 years before and now I'm reading that Liam
680
00:28:38.859 --> 00:28:41.039
was in the drinking and stuff, they were focused and
681
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:43.349
I think that came across in it but the whole
682
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:44.680
thing was amazing.
683
00:28:44.869 --> 00:28:46.890
It was quite hard to describe the feeling in there
684
00:28:46.910 --> 00:28:48.130
unless you were in the gig.
685
00:28:48.150 --> 00:28:48.769
Nostalgic.
686
00:28:49.049 --> 00:28:51.309
Aye, it was like the weight, all that weight.
687
00:28:51.329 --> 00:28:55.210
Emotion, haven't it? and there was no trouble either I
688
00:28:55.230 --> 00:28:58.559
mean I remember one of my last Oasis gigs was
689
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:02.519
at Exhibition Centre last time round and you could tell
690
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:06.099
there was a fallout there with them and the crowd
691
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.069
it wasn't great I think you might have been there
692
00:29:08.829 --> 00:29:12.549
that night it didn't help that we were no I
693
00:29:12.589 --> 00:29:14.970
recognise this Celtic we get a bit of stick and
694
00:29:15.210 --> 00:29:19.269
it just stuck in my head whereas Murrayfield was just
695
00:29:20.130 --> 00:29:22.549
Croke Park, there was nothing. Everybody was just there for
696
00:29:22.650 --> 00:29:27.539
one reason, because they were back. So hopefully that'll be
697
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:29.579
the same next year.
698
00:29:29.579 --> 00:29:32.420
2009 was when I first seen Oasis at Hyde Park,
699
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:35.789
and the generator blew about four times, and they were like,
700
00:29:35.809 --> 00:29:38.789
we're giving everybody their money back for their tickets, but
701
00:29:38.809 --> 00:29:39.650
we've still got to play the gig.
702
00:29:39.670 --> 00:29:43.710
Right. think Liam said oh he's the money back and
703
00:29:43.789 --> 00:29:44.049
I was.
704
00:29:44.009 --> 00:29:47.369
Like no but I think folk did get the back
705
00:29:47.410 --> 00:29:49.309
but they played the gig so we were in the
706
00:29:49.329 --> 00:29:53.599
wallet and that was amazing KC being supported and that's
707
00:29:53.619 --> 00:29:55.579
when they sort of a fire just came out so
708
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:58.640
they were like they were like the biggest.
709
00:29:58.140 --> 00:29:59.119
Hottest band at the time.
710
00:30:00.779 --> 00:30:04.039
I think the enemy were meant to play but food
711
00:30:04.059 --> 00:30:05.680
poisoning or something like that and Reverend and the Makers
712
00:30:05.700 --> 00:30:08.339
played so that was that was a good that was
713
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:10.880
a good gig but I'd still say even though that
714
00:30:10.900 --> 00:30:12.519
was in Manchester I'd still say that What.
715
00:30:12.420 --> 00:30:15.339
Day were you at Murrayfield? The weekend?
716
00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:18.480
The Saturday I had a ticket for the Tuesday as
717
00:30:18.509 --> 00:30:20.809
well but I gave it away so you've got the
718
00:30:20.829 --> 00:30:22.190
experience He's asking me.
719
00:30:22.130 --> 00:30:25.950
I'm the amateur you're the guy and what did you
720
00:30:25.970 --> 00:30:28.369
think was the difference between then and last year?
721
00:30:29.190 --> 00:30:31.289
Just sure about ourselves, eh? I think it was like,
722
00:30:31.869 --> 00:30:32.869
they know who they are now.
723
00:30:33.009 --> 00:30:33.150
Aye.
724
00:30:33.630 --> 00:30:38.009
And it's like, probably there was arguments going on behind
725
00:30:38.029 --> 00:30:39.269
the scenes back then as well.
726
00:30:39.769 --> 00:30:41.769
But now it's like, we're not what we're here to do.
727
00:30:41.829 --> 00:30:42.799
We're together now, sir.
728
00:30:42.809 --> 00:30:43.289
And we cannae.
729
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.430
We cannae mess this up look at the amount of
730
00:30:46.450 --> 00:30:48.109
folk there and it means everything it means everything to
731
00:30:48.130 --> 00:30:48.970
folk it's.
732
00:30:48.769 --> 00:30:51.109
Funny because all the footage and I think Noel Gallagher
733
00:30:51.150 --> 00:30:52.990
admitted it himself but see the first two or three
734
00:30:53.009 --> 00:30:55.690
gigs I think he was I don't think he could
735
00:30:55.730 --> 00:30:58.059
understand did you see the documentary I've not seen it
736
00:30:58.079 --> 00:30:59.519
yet I've not seen it he.
737
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.240
Talks about he talks about it in that he was like.
738
00:31:02.259 --> 00:31:04.079
But he could visibly see it I don't think he
739
00:31:04.099 --> 00:31:06.700
could believe the reaction he was getting off the people
740
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:09.200
that came to see them so many years later.
741
00:31:09.460 --> 00:31:12.509
He came into it in that documentary he's like I
742
00:31:12.789 --> 00:31:16.579
didn't expect it to be Like this, this big. He
743
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:20.000
totally underestimated it, which is nuts for somebody who's played
744
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:21.140
some massive gigs.
745
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.200
So accomplished, I know. It speaks volumes for the fans,
746
00:31:25.269 --> 00:31:30.809
I think, as well. Right, we'll finish off. We touched
747
00:31:30.869 --> 00:31:33.430
on Celtic a wee bit. What's your favourite memories of
748
00:31:33.450 --> 00:31:35.309
Celtic going up?
749
00:31:35.890 --> 00:31:38.670
I had a season ticket for years. I've not got
750
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a season ticket now, but I used to go to
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the games with my auntie.
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00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.000
Has that been Martin O'Neill era?
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00:31:44.019 --> 00:31:47.720
Martin O'Neill era I think my first game was I
754
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:49.680
went with my dad and my grandpa and my brother
755
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:53.960
and I think we beat Dunfermline 5-1 or.
756
00:31:53.819 --> 00:31:56.829
5-0 I think you were playing in that game.
757
00:31:56.650 --> 00:32:02.230
96 or something like that 5-0 Dunfermline at home I
758
00:32:02.230 --> 00:32:06.910
think that was the start of Joe Venglas first year
759
00:32:06.970 --> 00:32:07.910
no was it before that?
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Could have been I was barely remember it but I
761
00:32:10.990 --> 00:32:13.759
just remember we bet Dunfermline 5-0 Burley had the peroxide
762
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.500
blonde hair after the World Cup aye after the World
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Cup 99 98 98 sorry aye 98 98 aye so
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00:32:18.940 --> 00:32:23.799
because I was trying to find the actual game game
765
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but we bet Dunfermline like 5-0 I was planning.
766
00:32:25.990 --> 00:32:28.849
That first game of the season I had got my
767
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I think I had I might be on this reformer
768
00:32:32.130 --> 00:32:34.210
operation had two ops out of here.
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00:32:34.150 --> 00:32:36.759
Right The stand had just been built, I think, as well.
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00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.220
He'd won the league with him.
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00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:40.700
I'll be joking, man.
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00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:41.660
Then we went to the World Cup.
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I'm sure it was 5-0. Was Burley still with the
774
00:32:45.769 --> 00:32:47.109
blonde hair for the World Cup?
775
00:32:48.609 --> 00:32:51.009
I think so, probably. The umbral was in the middle.
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00:32:52.170 --> 00:32:56.089
I think it was that season. Larson had his dreadlocks.
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00:32:56.849 --> 00:32:57.539
I just remember that.
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00:32:57.579 --> 00:33:02.019
I always remember the cup fight, Larson's last game as well.
779
00:33:03.019 --> 00:33:05.019
You lifted the trophy didn't you? Yeah And it was
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in the kind of dark green Silver Carlin top.
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I always remember that game It was Dunfermline.
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Dunfermline I guess Dunfermline scored in the first.
783
00:33:14.660 --> 00:33:18.799
I finished 3-1 Aye 3-1 It was Henrik's last game
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Henrik got 2 and Petrov He told him to lift
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the trophy Because he was leaving And done it together
786
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:26.589
He'd only do it if we were doing it together
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00:33:27.329 --> 00:33:29.109
That was his last game Aye because.
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I remember that game in found out once I got
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to the stadium that I was going to be one
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of me and my brother was going to be in
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the Dunfermline that was a roast not a day so
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I was like I take my top off tried my
793
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top off but I had Celtic trackies on and that
794
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was they were pointing at all the Celtic fans and
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getting them thrown out but I was alright my auntie
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she was singing the songs and that but I always
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remember that game that was an amazing day I always
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remember all the goals.
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Went in the same corner at the same end that's
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right Petro's got.
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One as well Petro's 2004 when he left that.
802
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Was his very last game that was his last game
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as well at Dundee United Dundee United that was a
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tense tense game as he got on his score and
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he got two in the.
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End he got two in the end he couldn't he
807
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.099
was having one I think they.
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Were trying to lock the score at one point weren't
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they but aye brilliant I don't care where he had
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00:34:28.780 --> 00:34:28.989
done it.
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European nights, did you get to any of the European nights, Hunter? Aye, aye.
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It was at the Man United game, and that came
813
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out a free kick. Trank of the game was at
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that one.
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But no, I've not beaten it in a way, European game, no.
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I want to go to, well I try and get
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away this year to Benfica or something like that. But no,
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the AC Milan game as well, Dida got slapped or whatever.
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All the Barcelona teams and stuff like that.
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Brilliant night. But aye, good memories.
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The current team, what do you make of the current team?
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Last year was some finish.
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Last year was, I hope that never happens again.
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Too much for the nerves.
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I don't think it would, but it was a great
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start to the season. That was.
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That was hell. I didn't expect that.
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You see me bits there.
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In the first game against Lask, you're thinking, God, the
830
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new signings look really good.
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It's been tough.
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It was a tough one.
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The one at the weekend. The two games, the two
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biggest games of the season have been disappointing so far.
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The next two games are huge. That's the great thing
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in football. You've got games that quickly can turn that
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around again.
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So I'll be going tomorrow night to the European Games
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so hopefully we'll see a performance and then you can
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get a wee bit of confidence because I'm not looking
841
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forward to Sunday I know you don't like football players
842
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you don't look ahead to the games.
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Just getting the rest as well because they've struggled physically
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and even in between the last games there was no
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game and there's still a lot of them pulling up
846
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with cramp and all that I find it really.
847
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Goalkeeper getting cramp that's a new one I've seen that before.
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You're hoping it's going to be a that's true like
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a because of the backlash from the last game in
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fairness it does make a difference not having any fans
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in there your own fans.
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It's quite difficult for that It affects the referee's decisions
853
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as well in the park, I feel.
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You know what I mean?
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The energy.
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Aye, 100%.
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Because I'm sure they'll get a few decisions against us,
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but there's no complaints from me in that game. I
859
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thought we were second best all over the park.
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It's the first time I've watched that game for a
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while that Celtic didn't have anything in the game.
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Nothing at all.
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They didn't have control at any time in the game.
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As I say, the next game's coming, I'm thinking five,
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so you've got plenty of time to turn that around
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and park ahead on Sunday. Mate, you've been a great guest.
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I look forward to the next album and we'll come
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and see you at some point.
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See you next time.
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Welcome to another episode of Not Another Football Podcast with myself,
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Simon Dornley. What are you looking at me for? I'm just.
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Jackie McMorris.
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And we're delighted our next guest is Mark Sharp from
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Mark Sharp and the Bicycle Thieves. How are we doing, mate?
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Oh, very well, boys.
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Thanks for coming.
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Good to see you.
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You've been busy?
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Very busy.
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It's actually been one of the busiest summers for us.
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It's been out at the Tide Park by Lewis Capaldi.
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Yeah.
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Then we were in Boston and then we just... just
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finished a gig doing Where You Can't Beat It at
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Queen's Park, so that was good.
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Was that the one you invited me to and I
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couldn't make it?
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I invited you to look at him, you can't make it,
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you're a busy man.
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I know. Boston, what was the Boston thing?
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I've seen that.
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It was after the World Cup though, was it not?
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It was for the World Cup final.
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Was it for the final?
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It was after part of the World Cup final.
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Magic.
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How did that come about?
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We were in Iona playing a festival and it was
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like five o'clock in the morning we'd finished playing the
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festival that Newton Faulkner was playing it it was quite
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good to see him he was class so we played
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the gig I guess it takes about six hours to
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get up to Iona for a start so it's a
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trek up there three different ferries played that festival and
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then we're kind of at the end of the night
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we're in the tent I think we drank quite a
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Newton Faulkner's whiskey and we're in the tent it was
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about five o'clock in the morning we're sleeping and there's
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a phone call going on and I'm kind of like
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half sleeping like is this for real what's happening here
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And I could just hear, like, it's five o'clock in
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the morning here, stop phoning me.
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And that was kind of the end of it. I
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was like, what was that all about?
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And it was my mate, the drummer, James Grant, his pal, Dobby,
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Andrew Dobby, was phoning him. He was over down the Cone,
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the Cone final, taking the Cone for Glasgow, to Gloucester.
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He was that guy.
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And so he basically phoned saying, I've met this guy at,
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I think it was a Red Sox game. he's got
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to do a big after party, I says, I know
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the band for the job, do you want to come over,
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he'll fly you over, got 17 hour notice. I know
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that's what I was saying, because I thought he was
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on social media, it did see walk in at the
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last minute, it was at the blue, totally, and I
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was like, we spoke about it in the morning, and
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we were like, nah, we'll get home, and that'll be it,
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this will be forgotten about, but I kind of think
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we got, we were like, Glencoe, started to sober up
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a wee bit, and we thought, let's look at flights,
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and just see if it's possible, and, we were like,
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doable but everything's got to go to plan there can't
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be any delays with flights or anything like that we'll
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make the.
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Game immigration and all I had.
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To get the visas and stuff at the last minute
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but everything that could have went wrong somehow went right
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the after party was in Boston the after party was
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in Boston I think it was called the Anchor it
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was like the home pub for the Scotland fans for when.
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They first went over and I think they just.
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The guy was like, I'll fly yous out.
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And then I think he realised, once we sent the
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price over, I think he realised all the way there.
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Is that for always? I don't know, it's per person.
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Then he went, fuck it, bring yous over.
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So I flew us out and I think there was
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only meant to be about 250 people there. There's two
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and a half thousand people there. So we got there
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and we were just seeing this big crowd and we
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were like, that's not for us.
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So where was it?
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Was it in one of the stadiums or not?
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No, the actual venue is an outdoor venue.
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Right, okay.
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And they'd built a stage and stuff like that for us,
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and they've got the game on the big screen.
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So I was absolutely bouncing. I was like, this has
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got to be nuts. Still a bit surreal. You're like,
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how did that even happen? I'd never even been over
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to the States before.
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So was it your manager or your mate that put
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your name forward?
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Our drummer, James Grant's mate, Andrew Dovey, he's the cone
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guy so they're just pals and he just he's been
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I've got the I know the band here so he's
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just kind of like bigging it up bigging us up
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as well he's like I've got the best band in
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the UK coming over to do this it's funny isn't
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it and then we as we were going on the
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stage we were giving the guy he's a good hype
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man Andrew Dowie we were giving the guy a whiskey
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and he's like this is the best whiskey in Scotland
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and I'm just nonsense but the crowd were absolutely.
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Milking it spontaneous anything like that happened to you before
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the gigs?
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Nah we've had some of that stuff happen to us
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but that was I didn't expect that to happen that
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was just so last minute and as I say everything
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had to go to plan and it did so it
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was good.
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Brilliant so obviously you started out the rest of the
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band I think I've met a couple of you over
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the years are you pals from school? how did it
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come about?
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No so you're just in the same area we're bass
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player Connor he's pals with my wee cousin And I
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was just getting a band going, probably nine, ten years
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ago now. I was just starting to look for folk
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to play in the band. And my wee cousin was like,
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Connor plays bass. And then members have changed over time,
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but Connor, Cammy, the guitarist, and Darren, he plays keys.
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They all went to school together. And James's.
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He's a bit older, but I met him through just music.
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It was actually Wee Jack for the Snuts. He was
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recording in Glasgow with this guy, James Grant. And then
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he went, you need to go and record with this guy.
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So I'm a talent from your area and over the years.
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I don't know what's going on. What for him? I
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think we always say it's like... Something in the water.
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Something in the water.
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You feel as if you've maybe just influenced each other,
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inspired each other, kind of?
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Definitely. There's also nothing else to do in Whitburn. Do
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you know what I mean?
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where you're like, I've been good enough to play professionally.
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something indoors, do you know what I mean? So, aye, that's...
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It's mad to think of the people that's came from there.
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Susan Boyle's near there as well, do you know what
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Blackburn.
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How did they come up with the name then?
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and I seen there was a film called The Bicycle Thief.
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It's like an old Italian film from the 50s. So
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I was like, that's classic. Just nick that.
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That's how he came about.
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He said they were not stolen bikes.
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No, you said the other guys were stealing bikes when
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they were younger.
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dodgy boys in the band like you might have been.
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But the guitarist actually got his bike stolen. I don't
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know if you see it. It was one of the papers.
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The papers were milking up because it was a bicycle thief.
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He left it at Bathgate train station.
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publicity for us.
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So you're always the front man? Your intention's always to
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be the front guy?
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so I joined a band because they heard me singing
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at a house party, and then I just kept singing
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after that, and then I started writing my own stuff,
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and picked up the guitar, and aye, just always been
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the kind of front man.
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Does that just come naturally to you, the writing?
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really got the discipline to kind of learn properly, but
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I can write songs on piano or guitar. It's mad.
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Aye, it's nuts. But I think melodies come quite naturally.
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The words are hard to define, but I probably spend
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the most time on the words, because I want to
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perfect that.
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I think that's something I'm really, that's my thing, I'd say.
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what inspired you, the music, singing?
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there was always music about the house. There would have
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been Rod Stewart and the Faces, The Beatles, David Bowie,
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just a bit of everything really. So we just grew
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up through music and you naturally fall in love with it,
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do you know what I mean?
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You were saying Rod, because we were talking before you
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came in, you were saying Kelly Jones, weren't you? But
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there was a bit of Rod there, that kind of
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gravelly voice.
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Aye. It's probably from that, you know what I mean?
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what I mean? You eventually find your voice, you try
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to imitate loads of people, and then you find your
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own sort of voice through it. I've heard that before
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with Kelly Jones and Robert Stewart.
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Is it a tough career?
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many setbacks, so many promises, it just never happens.
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And it is tough. But you just see if you're
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doing it for the right reasons. You'll enjoy it.
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Enjoy it, aye. The first time I came across you
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was in lockdown. I don't know if you remember. You
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were doing a gig. It was for a little lad
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that had died, I think.
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It was Sam. Aye.
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Aye. And it was through the wee boy Adam Frame
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that we had in the bar singing. And I came across.
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It was almost like an online gig, wasn't it?
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You were playing a video in black and white. I
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remember it rightly. It was a kind of black and
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white video you were when yous were singing?
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I just remember us doing it in my mate's garden,
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and he was washing the stuff and that.
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I remember that as well. I remember the washing, but
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The barbeque was doing his knickers, didn't we? Wow.
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with being an artist and wanting to go out and perform,
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you're stuck away. They must have been difficult for you.
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music industry was the last thing to come back. It
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was real weird. We played the last ever gig in
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the UK.
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out St Luke's. We'd sold out a tour down south.
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in Scotland for generations.
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I can't go with that. we played that gig.
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I remember the van broke down on the way there.
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getting cancelled. We were getting messages from some angry fans saying,
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you'd better not play this gig and all this.
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That's not the day we is. We'll play it if
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Lewis is putting on, do you know what I mean?
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I had a gig going ahead, it was brilliant, and
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there was a free bar after it, and then I'd
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never seen anybody.
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So you feel you had to start all over again then?
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you feel like you haven't started on again. It's mad industry.
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You'll bring out a song, you spend years writing, spend
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a fortune recording, and.
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Go, brilliant, can't wait for the next one.
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You're like, just enjoy that one for a few months,
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and then we can kick on, but it's different because.
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juggling that as well.
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Most of the band I do this full time and
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the drummer he's he's the same he's like a composer
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so he records artists and stuff like that and that's
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his full time job makes wee jingles and that makes a.
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Bomb so who do you do that stuff for?
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He does it for everybody I think he's got a
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song on BBC I do it for different things stuff
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like that we've done some stuff together for like there's
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a company in Switzerland and we've done like sort of
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like a full act they paid us to write an
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album so we did an album for them and it
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just goes out to like tv shows adverts and stuff
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like that right whatever it's like a big list of
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songs and people pick out a song and just your
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luck really.
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hyde park must have been massive but you went and
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toured did you go and tour in europe with lewis
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yeah is that just again from that area and known
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each other and your mates yeah pretty much i mean
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be at each other's gigs. I remember years ago, we
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played a gig in Armadale.
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I can't remember the name of the pub.
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Is that where we went? With Gary Greig? Was that Armadale?
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Foltis.
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Foltis. We sang one song that night. Ah, it had
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been in Foltis. In the Grange, I think it was.
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Aye, that was in the Grange.
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I remember being choked with the cold and hearing you
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as well.
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It was raging.
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So I couldn't get out.
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obviously me and Lewis. and both our dads and the
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barman that was what was there and then to see
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him do that and then do his thing all the
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way he's doing it isn't credible but we've just always
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supported each other when we've been in bands and done
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solo stuff and then it's just kicked off and he's
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like come and join us and he's doing stuff.
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So where in the European tour?
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I did a full month so it was I think
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we started in Poland finished and they actually got caught
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short because they were He lost his voice and stuff
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like that and he was struggling at that time. But
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we played dive with Sweden, Netherlands, Germany, Ireland, kind of everywhere.
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That was brilliant and it finished in Spain. I think
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the last gig was... Anyway, I actually went back out
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and did Milan.
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He was just constantly travelling then?
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Aye, brilliant.
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What a life.
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Because he put us up in his tour bus.
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He had his own tour bus, but we were in
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another tour bus as well.
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It's trucks and.
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Just a mad experience. So it was great for him
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to take us out. We look at that gig we
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did in front of our dads and then to take
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it on.
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It was incredible.
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Being to where you've got to.
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That must be the Hyde Park one then. That must
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be amazing. Was it yourselves... Lewis, who else was playing
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in that?
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Luke Levoque played as well. He played there?
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Aye, he's from the same area, he's Bathgate as well. Aye,
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it was quite... It's good.
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To see from that kind of thing, isn't it? Bringing
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boys that he's obviously grew up with, performing in areas,
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you're talking about the two dazs, and then no forgetting
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about his great playing.
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Because he's a popular man, and everybody wants to support him.
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He's got loads of friends that are in the music industry,
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and he could give it to them, but he's... He
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always says, actually, I like your music.
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That's the thing. It's not just because you're my pal.
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I like your music.
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Which must be a buzz. Aye.
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He said that before and I'm like, whatever. But his
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pal's like, no, he plays your music all the time
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and stuff. So it's like, that's amazing to hear.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Of course it is. Your album, obviously, that came through
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to see, was that, I can't believe it. That's Bathgate.
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2023? Aye.
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Already?
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Mental time flies.
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He's played with Dictator.
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Dictator played.
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He played first.
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Was that the release date of your album?
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That was the album launch. I think that was the
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day we got number one that day in Scotland.
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Brilliant.
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So that was just a big party. We went all out.
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Remember the big inflatable moon?
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Aye.
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And went and made it with the lights and just, like,
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no profit off this, let's just This is a party.
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It's actually Times Flat. When I was reading up on
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it a wee bit there, I couldn't believe it was
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three years. So you're talking there about the pressure of
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having to get something else out there with your fans
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and stuff. Is there another album in the... I know
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you've released a couple of singles.
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Yeah, we're working on one right now.
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So that's the next step for us, just trying to
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get this album the best it can be. Personally, I
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think it's better than the first album. I think the
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first album was more like collection of other songs that
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we've done over the years and we've put it together
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like a.
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Greatest hits type thing.
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But this one it's like we're writing songs specifically for
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this album and I feel like we're getting better with
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the songwriting and stuff as well so I feel like
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we're in a good place with the songs at the moment.
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Hi guys, as you probably well know by now, we
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have signed up for the London Marathon next April and
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we have some fantastic people supporting us, groups supporting us,
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we're doing it for a fantastic cause, or two causes,
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who are we doing it for?
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We're doing it for Headway UK and the Concilium Sports Foundation.
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Yep, so we're going to have some updated videos of
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our progress and our training and everything else that it
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takes to get us over the line. He's emphasised that
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time doesn't matter.
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Doesn't matter.
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As long as we complete it. There'll be a link
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in the bio for any charity donations. We're going to
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be raising as much money as we can over the
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next period of time. Our training starts very soon. And, yeah,
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look forward to some updates on here. Hopefully no injuries.
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But it's going to take a bit of time in
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the studio and then hopefully get out next year.
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Next year. And then take it on tour, obviously.
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Mm-hm. class that's the plan anyway super so.
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They're talking about obviously the overriding thing the football side
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of it it's not a hidden secret that you're a
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big Celtic fan growing up did you play yourself were
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you quite keen football you said maybe you got to
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a stage where you didn't reckon.
413
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You were good enough no I think anywhere from everybody
414
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just plays football you're in the streets all the time
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constantly so I played football I was at Falkirk for
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I played for Falkirk for about four years at the
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youth and then I think under 16, 17's.
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Position me striker right.
419
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And I sometimes played a full line as well your
420
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boyfriend Las Vegas played at Falkirk didn't he no I
421
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didn't I heard he was a better player Scott Arfield
422
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was there when I was he was a few years
423
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older but he was there when I was there right
424
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can't remember the manager was Eddie May Yogi and Eddie
425
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May were the managers.
426
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That's when I was there.
427
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Aye.
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I was there then. Aye. I'm not going to ask it,
429
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but I will ask it. So what age were you then?
430
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So I'd have been.
431
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Because you'd have been a player there.
432
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Aye.
433
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What year would.
434
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Well, we were still wearing the strips, like the player
435
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strips that were getting the handmaidens for the 90s.
436
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We were young lads.
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We got to the final with Yogi, played Rangers in
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the final.
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And then Yogi left to go to Hibs and then
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Eddie May stepped up with Elvis and I left I
441
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left in January just after January when Elvis took over.
442
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I remember because I remember because that was the youth
443
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party that was the year when I crossed I think
444
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Falkirk went up that year but because the stadium wasn't
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ready they didn't but the youth team went up so
446
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we were getting hammered I just kind of lost a
447
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bit of interest.
448
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So you'd be based at Stirling Uni, the games?
449
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That's right.
450
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They had a really good set-up. A lot of good
451
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young players came through.
452
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Arfield, Scobie, quite a few other young boys. But when
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we went down at the end of that year with Elvis,
454
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they got rid of the academy shortly after that.
455
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They've brought it back again now, but.
456
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It was a good set up, he was trained at
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Little Kearse when I first went there and then I
458
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ended up in Stirling. But they were always wanting to
459
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play football, it was like drilling, proper passing, pass.
460
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The ball, move and that, it was proper drilling.
461
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Eddie May was good, he would have been in charge
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of the academy Eddie when he came up, I liked Eddie.
463
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I was there for about four years.
464
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I was there for about four years, aye. I think
465
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under 12.
466
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Or something How did that finish for you then?
467
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I think we went up to Aberdeen and got beat
468
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10-0 and we got beat off Rangers 9-0 and all
469
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my pals were playing with Rangers at the time so
470
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we had a team in Livingston Murison and a lot
471
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of us went to Rangers and then they were signing
472
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players and stuff like that like Sandy Clark's lad Nicky
473
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he was coaching us and he turned that team to
474
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Rangers I think there was a few teams wanting to
475
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sign the whole team because we were unbeaten, we were
476
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winning like 10, 30 and all. I forget who it was.
477
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So like Danny Olsen was in that team. Rhys McCabe
478
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obviously Nicky Clark there's triplets from South Africa they were
479
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quality Darren Cole as well and a lot of them
480
00:20:10.309 --> 00:20:12.769
went on and played Champions League football for Rangers and stuff.
481
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Darren Cole made them in loan at Partick and all.
482
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I remember playing a few we played a few games
483
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up at Morayfield I remember I can't remember who we
484
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were playing but I remember John Fleck coming on and
485
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like Just ripped it up.
486
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He was decent, John.
487
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He was unbelievable. And then that's when I came off.
488
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He came on. Then the ball for the right wing.
489
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Banged into the top bag. Two minutes later, they're the
490
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same with the other foot.
491
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And I went, I'll probably leave. And that's how I
492
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ended up at Falkirk. But that was, I just loved
493
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the way it fit. Well, then and again, you just
494
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feel like you love that wee bit.
495
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I kept playing. I was playing junior football until I
496
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was about 24. Right. But I was gigging every weekend.
497
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That's what I'm saying. So the music had kicked in
498
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by then.
499
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So you were training twice a week.
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Were you already doing that? So the Fall Cup, were
501
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you already... Was the music interest there?
502
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No, no.
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I never even.
504
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thought about anything like that then it wasn't probably until
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after Paul Cook was maybe 16 or something that I
506
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started getting into music.
507
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You think he was into music I know he was a.
508
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Celtic fan aye that's right I know he was a
509
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Celtic fan.
510
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Yeah, brilliant. He made the right decision though.
511
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So the Bicycle Thieves, was that your first band or
512
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were you in something before that?
513
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No, I was in loads of bands before it.
514
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Aye, so I was singing at a house party, just
515
00:21:41.859 --> 00:21:45.059
like Oasis songs and Arctic Monkeys songs. I didn't know
516
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there was a band there, but they didn't have a
517
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singer and they asked me to join. I'd never thought
518
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of anything like that kind of stuff at the time.
519
00:21:50.779 --> 00:21:53.799
So I said aye and I've been doing it ever.
520
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Since to be fair.
521
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Can you remember your first gig with them?
522
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Aye we we played somewhere in Broxbourne don't ask me
523
00:22:02.099 --> 00:22:04.890
the name we played in Broxbourne and it was like
524
00:22:04.910 --> 00:22:07.569
because we were still young at school everybody from school
525
00:22:07.589 --> 00:22:09.950
came to us sold out and I remember going in
526
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and this guy who put the gig on never seen
527
00:22:12.849 --> 00:22:15.990
him since but he was he was like I'll give
528
00:22:16.009 --> 00:22:19.819
you this now 50 quid 100 quid and I'll give
529
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you the rest after once more folk come in and
530
00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:26.079
I remember we hadn't even started the set yet I
531
00:22:26.099 --> 00:22:28.369
remember I think we went out to get a drink
532
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or something like that, came back in, and he's getting
533
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carried down the stairs, spewed down his cell, he's absolutely rast.
534
00:22:34.740 --> 00:22:36.440
And I've not seen him since, or we've never got
535
00:22:36.460 --> 00:22:38.039
that money.
536
00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:42.079
But aye, he deleted his number, and everything, so aye,
537
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that was the first impression I had on that industry,
538
00:22:46.109 --> 00:22:46.680
and I've loved it.
539
00:22:46.829 --> 00:22:49.549
What about when you're away, I mean, with the band,
540
00:22:49.769 --> 00:22:53.190
if you're touring, do you never get any fights or that,
541
00:22:53.269 --> 00:22:54.690
or disagreements, or?
542
00:22:55.210 --> 00:22:58.059
Nah, but to be fair, we're actually alright, we're, where
543
00:22:58.660 --> 00:23:01.700
you sometimes have a bit of discussion when you're in
544
00:23:01.779 --> 00:23:04.740
the studio on songs, but none of us are.
545
00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:06.819
Kind of there.
546
00:23:07.259 --> 00:23:10.079
No, I know you touch wood, but the corner on Cammy,
547
00:23:10.099 --> 00:23:12.940
they're like best pals from school, so they'll maybe have
548
00:23:14.059 --> 00:23:17.240
a fight, but they'll have a go at each other.
549
00:23:17.460 --> 00:23:19.950
It's just pals, isn't it?
550
00:23:19.970 --> 00:23:22.319
The touring bit must be a bit higher. Just the
551
00:23:22.339 --> 00:23:23.619
boys away type of stuff.
552
00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:29.019
Unbelievable. That's probably my best experiences I've had to Capaldi tour.
553
00:23:29.589 --> 00:23:32.970
Because you play the gig. It's so easy because you're
554
00:23:32.990 --> 00:23:33.549
the support band.
555
00:23:33.569 --> 00:23:35.069
You know what I mean? So you're playing half an hour.
556
00:23:35.089 --> 00:23:40.150
Nobody's there for you, but everybody's in. So you get
557
00:23:40.230 --> 00:23:44.440
an audience crowd as well playing the gig. And then
558
00:23:44.460 --> 00:23:46.700
you go off stage, just enjoy yourself. Get on the
559
00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:49.299
bus and you're waking up a new city every day.
560
00:23:49.750 --> 00:23:51.690
I remember we woke up one morning, I opened the
561
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blinds and we were at the Amsterdam Arena, or was
562
00:23:53.750 --> 00:23:54.069
it Cruyff?
563
00:23:54.130 --> 00:23:55.049
Was it Cruyff Arena?
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00:23:55.170 --> 00:24:00.740
I'm like, did the tour, did soundcheck, catering was amazing.
565
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.400
Then you play the gig, and then I just see
566
00:24:03.420 --> 00:24:03.759
it again.
567
00:24:04.299 --> 00:24:04.619
Class.
568
00:24:05.220 --> 00:24:07.589
I was obviously, because I was, I wasn't drinking as
569
00:24:07.619 --> 00:24:09.609
much because you've got to look after the throat when
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you're playing.
571
00:24:11.470 --> 00:24:13.150
Were there any other football stadiums you played in there,
572
00:24:13.329 --> 00:24:13.750
in that tour?
573
00:24:14.269 --> 00:24:16.289
No we didn't play it was all arenas we didn't
574
00:24:16.309 --> 00:24:19.380
play any football stadiums we just parked outside that alright
575
00:24:19.390 --> 00:24:21.279
so you never played in there nah I can't remember
576
00:24:21.299 --> 00:24:23.980
the place but we played at a different arena but
577
00:24:24.099 --> 00:24:26.500
aye it was all Mercedes Benz arena and stuff like
578
00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:26.940
that and.
579
00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:30.940
You know you just you just take it in.
580
00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:33.319
Your stride at the time as we say that's three
581
00:24:33.339 --> 00:24:35.940
years ago you're looking back now and you're like did
582
00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:40.160
that did that happen did that happen so lucky to get.
583
00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:41.690
The Hyde Park one must be the same as well
584
00:24:41.710 --> 00:24:43.289
though many folk would have been at that.
585
00:24:44.750 --> 00:24:47.450
I'm not sure but like we were only on the
586
00:24:47.470 --> 00:24:50.569
main stage we were only on one of the smaller
587
00:24:50.589 --> 00:24:53.240
stages but that's the biggest stage see like the stage
588
00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:55.079
Lewis played on that's like the biggest stage I've ever
589
00:24:55.099 --> 00:24:55.859
seen it.
590
00:24:55.940 --> 00:24:58.720
Was absolutely massive.
591
00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:01.019
The stage we were on was quite good because it
592
00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:03.539
was like right next to the entrance so people were
593
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.430
coming in and then listening it was quite great but
594
00:25:07.630 --> 00:25:10.150
I'd seen the Libertines there years ago and I thought
595
00:25:10.369 --> 00:25:12.210
it'd be amazing to play here I think the Pogues
596
00:25:12.230 --> 00:25:13.170
played as well.
597
00:25:13.509 --> 00:25:15.650
Pinch yourself stuff in it as you've seen bands that
598
00:25:15.710 --> 00:25:18.390
you look up to and you're playing there after them.
599
00:25:18.730 --> 00:25:22.710
So was the dream then to use Headline in it?
600
00:25:22.849 --> 00:25:25.269
That would be aye the dream's always been to headline
601
00:25:25.289 --> 00:25:27.569
the Barrowlands that's always been our kind of you played
602
00:25:27.589 --> 00:25:29.829
the Barrowlands? played the Barrowlands but to headline it and
603
00:25:30.569 --> 00:25:32.369
to do it with the band because we've only done
604
00:25:32.390 --> 00:25:33.990
it acoustic we've done it twice we've done it with
605
00:25:34.009 --> 00:25:37.990
Snuts and Will Lewis but it was just acoustic.
606
00:25:37.970 --> 00:25:40.130
But to headline that would be your that's a dream aye.
607
00:25:40.730 --> 00:25:42.759
That's I just want to get a get the focus
608
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.380
on that and zone in and let's make that the
609
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.119
goal do you know what I mean I think most
610
00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:52.589
Scottish bands that's the dream headline the Barrowlands is.
611
00:25:51.769 --> 00:25:56.549
It hard this bit getting out there like the promotions
612
00:25:57.490 --> 00:25:59.630
aye definitely I think it's quite hard to even book
613
00:25:59.650 --> 00:26:02.509
the Barrowlands as well it's always booked.
614
00:26:02.349 --> 00:26:06.390
It but we'll certainly try anyway that's the.
615
00:26:06.269 --> 00:26:10.170
Goal it's iconic isn't it just for every band it's
616
00:26:10.210 --> 00:26:13.259
just that iconic platform to go and play the barras
617
00:26:13.660 --> 00:26:16.380
what stuff were you into when you were younger then
618
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:18.299
what bands.
619
00:26:18.619 --> 00:26:24.359
Eh Oasis Stone Roses em Arctic Monkeys I feel like
620
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:27.309
that like the Arctic Monkeys was a that's I was
621
00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:31.750
too young to get the Oasis yeah but em my
622
00:26:31.809 --> 00:26:34.930
Arctic Monkeys I know I just I just missed the
623
00:26:34.970 --> 00:26:37.730
Oasis too young for Oasis no but you know that'll
624
00:26:37.769 --> 00:26:39.609
be your that'll be your band because you were there
625
00:26:39.630 --> 00:26:41.819
when they first came on the scene So the Arctic Monkeys,
626
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:42.740
that was the first.
627
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.200
You've gone all damn roses as well, to be fair.
628
00:26:45.589 --> 00:26:46.910
So Arctic Monkeys was your.
629
00:26:46.829 --> 00:26:49.650
Bit when you were heavily influenced by them?
630
00:26:49.930 --> 00:26:50.589
Aye.
631
00:26:51.170 --> 00:26:53.970
So I would say that, but I just listened to Oasis.
632
00:26:54.009 --> 00:26:57.519
But a bit of everything. I love soul music as well.
633
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:00.680
Otis Redding's my favourite singer the whole time.
634
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:01.609
I like Otis, aye.
635
00:27:01.619 --> 00:27:02.900
He's got an incredible voice.
636
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:04.779
I named my wee dog after him.
637
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.309
Did you? Oh, probably.
638
00:27:08.089 --> 00:27:11.099
Aye, so I love old music, to be fair, but aye,
639
00:27:11.109 --> 00:27:12.970
that's my kind of, that's my scene.
640
00:27:13.009 --> 00:27:15.369
Did you get on the Oasis thing last year? I
641
00:27:15.369 --> 00:27:15.710
was there.
642
00:27:16.009 --> 00:27:20.779
Lucky enough. I was there, aye. I got Murrayfield. Aye, amazing.
643
00:27:20.859 --> 00:27:22.819
And I'm on the ballot for this next year.
644
00:27:22.859 --> 00:27:23.470
Ain't we all, aye?
645
00:27:23.779 --> 00:27:26.680
Aye. I know. You're surely getting some freebies.
646
00:27:26.700 --> 00:27:28.720
No. Nah. I hope so.
647
00:27:28.740 --> 00:27:30.710
I had Andy McLaren text me last night, have you
648
00:27:30.809 --> 00:27:32.450
sought me out for four tickets for away?
649
00:27:32.490 --> 00:27:33.809
You'll be getting an idea.
650
00:27:34.130 --> 00:27:36.230
It's bad enough with Celtic games, isn't it?
651
00:27:36.369 --> 00:27:37.849
I was saying when I did the Celtic TV, I
652
00:27:37.869 --> 00:27:39.430
was just going to hide in there in one of
653
00:27:39.470 --> 00:27:41.410
the offices and just wait for the gig.
654
00:27:41.710 --> 00:27:43.529
No, you'll be fine. Everybody knows that you're a big
655
00:27:43.549 --> 00:27:45.960
Oasis fan as well, so you'll be getting an idea.
656
00:27:45.980 --> 00:27:49.240
Well, hopefully. Hopefully that's the plan, isn't it? We'll wait
657
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:49.599
and see.
658
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:51.359
I missed it last year. I was meant to go
659
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.740
to the one in Dublin with you.
660
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:54.859
At Croke Park. It was amazing.
661
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:56.119
Amazing.
662
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:57.339
Slean Castle next year.
663
00:27:57.539 --> 00:27:59.779
Slean Castle, which I've already played before.
664
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:00.259
Aye.
665
00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:03.759
Some good venues actually next year. But it's just if
666
00:28:03.779 --> 00:28:04.700
you get the tickets, isn't it?
667
00:28:04.829 --> 00:28:05.089
I know.
668
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.529
It's this mad registering codes.
669
00:28:07.569 --> 00:28:10.049
Hopefully it'll be a bit easier, not easier, but a
670
00:28:10.069 --> 00:28:12.130
bit more organised than being a ballet, do you know
671
00:28:12.150 --> 00:28:12.509
what I mean?
672
00:28:12.529 --> 00:28:15.789
So would you say they were better last, when you
673
00:28:15.829 --> 00:28:19.109
watched them then, or when you watched them at Loch Lomond?
674
00:28:20.250 --> 00:28:21.730
That's an iconic gig.
675
00:28:21.750 --> 00:28:26.460
Loch Lomond was, as he says, iconic and from what
676
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:28.759
I remember amazing, but what I took from the last
677
00:28:28.779 --> 00:28:32.440
year was it was just polished and it was like
678
00:28:32.500 --> 00:28:35.500
a big kind of loving, everybody was there for you
679
00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:38.819
know 20 years before and now I'm reading that Liam
680
00:28:38.859 --> 00:28:41.039
was in the drinking and stuff, they were focused and
681
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:43.349
I think that came across in it but the whole
682
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:44.680
thing was amazing.
683
00:28:44.869 --> 00:28:46.890
It was quite hard to describe the feeling in there
684
00:28:46.910 --> 00:28:48.130
unless you were in the gig.
685
00:28:48.150 --> 00:28:48.769
Nostalgic.
686
00:28:49.049 --> 00:28:51.309
Aye, it was like the weight, all that weight.
687
00:28:51.329 --> 00:28:55.210
Emotion, haven't it? and there was no trouble either I
688
00:28:55.230 --> 00:28:58.559
mean I remember one of my last Oasis gigs was
689
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:02.519
at Exhibition Centre last time round and you could tell
690
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:06.099
there was a fallout there with them and the crowd
691
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.069
it wasn't great I think you might have been there
692
00:29:08.829 --> 00:29:12.549
that night it didn't help that we were no I
693
00:29:12.589 --> 00:29:14.970
recognise this Celtic we get a bit of stick and
694
00:29:15.210 --> 00:29:19.269
it just stuck in my head whereas Murrayfield was just
695
00:29:20.130 --> 00:29:22.549
Croke Park, there was nothing. Everybody was just there for
696
00:29:22.650 --> 00:29:27.539
one reason, because they were back. So hopefully that'll be
697
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:29.579
the same next year.
698
00:29:29.579 --> 00:29:32.420
2009 was when I first seen Oasis at Hyde Park,
699
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:35.789
and the generator blew about four times, and they were like,
700
00:29:35.809 --> 00:29:38.789
we're giving everybody their money back for their tickets, but
701
00:29:38.809 --> 00:29:39.650
we've still got to play the gig.
702
00:29:39.670 --> 00:29:43.710
Right. think Liam said oh he's the money back and
703
00:29:43.789 --> 00:29:44.049
I was.
704
00:29:44.009 --> 00:29:47.369
Like no but I think folk did get the back
705
00:29:47.410 --> 00:29:49.309
but they played the gig so we were in the
706
00:29:49.329 --> 00:29:53.599
wallet and that was amazing KC being supported and that's
707
00:29:53.619 --> 00:29:55.579
when they sort of a fire just came out so
708
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:58.640
they were like they were like the biggest.
709
00:29:58.140 --> 00:29:59.119
Hottest band at the time.
710
00:30:00.779 --> 00:30:04.039
I think the enemy were meant to play but food
711
00:30:04.059 --> 00:30:05.680
poisoning or something like that and Reverend and the Makers
712
00:30:05.700 --> 00:30:08.339
played so that was that was a good that was
713
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:10.880
a good gig but I'd still say even though that
714
00:30:10.900 --> 00:30:12.519
was in Manchester I'd still say that What.
715
00:30:12.420 --> 00:30:15.339
Day were you at Murrayfield? The weekend?
716
00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:18.480
The Saturday I had a ticket for the Tuesday as
717
00:30:18.509 --> 00:30:20.809
well but I gave it away so you've got the
718
00:30:20.829 --> 00:30:22.190
experience He's asking me.
719
00:30:22.130 --> 00:30:25.950
I'm the amateur you're the guy and what did you
720
00:30:25.970 --> 00:30:28.369
think was the difference between then and last year?
721
00:30:29.190 --> 00:30:31.289
Just sure about ourselves, eh? I think it was like,
722
00:30:31.869 --> 00:30:32.869
they know who they are now.
723
00:30:33.009 --> 00:30:33.150
Aye.
724
00:30:33.630 --> 00:30:38.009
And it's like, probably there was arguments going on behind
725
00:30:38.029 --> 00:30:39.269
the scenes back then as well.
726
00:30:39.769 --> 00:30:41.769
But now it's like, we're not what we're here to do.
727
00:30:41.829 --> 00:30:42.799
We're together now, sir.
728
00:30:42.809 --> 00:30:43.289
And we cannae.
729
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.430
We cannae mess this up look at the amount of
730
00:30:46.450 --> 00:30:48.109
folk there and it means everything it means everything to
731
00:30:48.130 --> 00:30:48.970
folk it's.
732
00:30:48.769 --> 00:30:51.109
Funny because all the footage and I think Noel Gallagher
733
00:30:51.150 --> 00:30:52.990
admitted it himself but see the first two or three
734
00:30:53.009 --> 00:30:55.690
gigs I think he was I don't think he could
735
00:30:55.730 --> 00:30:58.059
understand did you see the documentary I've not seen it
736
00:30:58.079 --> 00:30:59.519
yet I've not seen it he.
737
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.240
Talks about he talks about it in that he was like.
738
00:31:02.259 --> 00:31:04.079
But he could visibly see it I don't think he
739
00:31:04.099 --> 00:31:06.700
could believe the reaction he was getting off the people
740
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:09.200
that came to see them so many years later.
741
00:31:09.460 --> 00:31:12.509
He came into it in that documentary he's like I
742
00:31:12.789 --> 00:31:16.579
didn't expect it to be Like this, this big. He
743
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:20.000
totally underestimated it, which is nuts for somebody who's played
744
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:21.140
some massive gigs.
745
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.200
So accomplished, I know. It speaks volumes for the fans,
746
00:31:25.269 --> 00:31:30.809
I think, as well. Right, we'll finish off. We touched
747
00:31:30.869 --> 00:31:33.430
on Celtic a wee bit. What's your favourite memories of
748
00:31:33.450 --> 00:31:35.309
Celtic going up?
749
00:31:35.890 --> 00:31:38.670
I had a season ticket for years. I've not got
750
00:31:38.690 --> 00:31:40.019
a season ticket now, but I used to go to
751
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:40.819
the games with my auntie.
752
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.000
Has that been Martin O'Neill era?
753
00:31:44.019 --> 00:31:47.720
Martin O'Neill era I think my first game was I
754
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:49.680
went with my dad and my grandpa and my brother
755
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:53.960
and I think we beat Dunfermline 5-1 or.
756
00:31:53.819 --> 00:31:56.829
5-0 I think you were playing in that game.
757
00:31:56.650 --> 00:32:02.230
96 or something like that 5-0 Dunfermline at home I
758
00:32:02.230 --> 00:32:06.910
think that was the start of Joe Venglas first year
759
00:32:06.970 --> 00:32:07.910
no was it before that?
760
00:32:07.930 --> 00:32:10.970
Could have been I was barely remember it but I
761
00:32:10.990 --> 00:32:13.759
just remember we bet Dunfermline 5-0 Burley had the peroxide
762
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.500
blonde hair after the World Cup aye after the World
763
00:32:16.539 --> 00:32:18.900
Cup 99 98 98 sorry aye 98 98 aye so
764
00:32:18.940 --> 00:32:23.799
because I was trying to find the actual game game
765
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:26.549
but we bet Dunfermline like 5-0 I was planning.
766
00:32:25.990 --> 00:32:28.849
That first game of the season I had got my
767
00:32:28.890 --> 00:32:32.089
I think I had I might be on this reformer
768
00:32:32.130 --> 00:32:34.210
operation had two ops out of here.
769
00:32:34.150 --> 00:32:36.759
Right The stand had just been built, I think, as well.
770
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.220
He'd won the league with him.
771
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:40.700
I'll be joking, man.
772
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:41.660
Then we went to the World Cup.
773
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.720
I'm sure it was 5-0. Was Burley still with the
774
00:32:45.769 --> 00:32:47.109
blonde hair for the World Cup?
775
00:32:48.609 --> 00:32:51.009
I think so, probably. The umbral was in the middle.
776
00:32:52.170 --> 00:32:56.089
I think it was that season. Larson had his dreadlocks.
777
00:32:56.849 --> 00:32:57.539
I just remember that.
778
00:32:57.579 --> 00:33:02.019
I always remember the cup fight, Larson's last game as well.
779
00:33:03.019 --> 00:33:05.019
You lifted the trophy didn't you? Yeah And it was
780
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:09.160
in the kind of dark green Silver Carlin top.
781
00:33:08.980 --> 00:33:12.440
I always remember that game It was Dunfermline.
782
00:33:12.259 --> 00:33:15.299
Dunfermline I guess Dunfermline scored in the first.
783
00:33:14.660 --> 00:33:18.799
I finished 3-1 Aye 3-1 It was Henrik's last game
784
00:33:18.900 --> 00:33:22.140
Henrik got 2 and Petrov He told him to lift
785
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.680
the trophy Because he was leaving And done it together
786
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:26.589
He'd only do it if we were doing it together
787
00:33:27.329 --> 00:33:29.109
That was his last game Aye because.
788
00:33:28.970 --> 00:33:31.339
I remember that game in found out once I got
789
00:33:31.380 --> 00:33:33.759
to the stadium that I was going to be one
790
00:33:33.779 --> 00:33:34.960
of me and my brother was going to be in
791
00:33:34.980 --> 00:33:38.609
the Dunfermline that was a roast not a day so
792
00:33:38.619 --> 00:33:40.119
I was like I take my top off tried my
793
00:33:40.140 --> 00:33:41.789
top off but I had Celtic trackies on and that
794
00:33:41.829 --> 00:33:44.890
was they were pointing at all the Celtic fans and
795
00:33:44.930 --> 00:33:48.230
getting them thrown out but I was alright my auntie
796
00:33:48.250 --> 00:33:53.230
she was singing the songs and that but I always
797
00:33:53.250 --> 00:33:56.670
remember that game that was an amazing day I always
798
00:33:56.690 --> 00:33:58.049
remember all the goals.
799
00:33:57.750 --> 00:33:59.670
Went in the same corner at the same end that's
800
00:33:59.710 --> 00:34:01.210
right Petro's got.
801
00:34:01.130 --> 00:34:08.860
One as well Petro's 2004 when he left that.
802
00:34:08.659 --> 00:34:10.960
Was his very last game that was his last game
803
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:15.179
as well at Dundee United Dundee United that was a
804
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.940
tense tense game as he got on his score and
805
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:18.980
he got two in the.
806
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:20.519
End he got two in the end he couldn't he
807
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.099
was having one I think they.
808
00:34:22.489 --> 00:34:25.590
Were trying to lock the score at one point weren't
809
00:34:26.309 --> 00:34:28.760
they but aye brilliant I don't care where he had
810
00:34:28.780 --> 00:34:28.989
done it.
811
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:33.300
European nights, did you get to any of the European nights, Hunter? Aye, aye.
812
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:35.590
It was at the Man United game, and that came
813
00:34:35.610 --> 00:34:40.889
out a free kick. Trank of the game was at
814
00:34:41.289 --> 00:34:41.690
that one.
815
00:34:42.829 --> 00:34:44.989
But no, I've not beaten it in a way, European game, no.
816
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:46.699
I want to go to, well I try and get
817
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:50.389
away this year to Benfica or something like that. But no,
818
00:34:50.469 --> 00:34:53.550
the AC Milan game as well, Dida got slapped or whatever.
819
00:34:54.530 --> 00:34:58.630
All the Barcelona teams and stuff like that.
820
00:34:58.750 --> 00:35:02.409
Brilliant night. But aye, good memories.
821
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:04.300
The current team, what do you make of the current team?
822
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:06.320
Last year was some finish.
823
00:35:06.900 --> 00:35:09.079
Last year was, I hope that never happens again.
824
00:35:09.099 --> 00:35:09.940
Too much for the nerves.
825
00:35:09.980 --> 00:35:11.519
I don't think it would, but it was a great
826
00:35:11.539 --> 00:35:12.460
start to the season. That was.
827
00:35:13.909 --> 00:35:17.219
That was hell. I didn't expect that.
828
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:18.280
You see me bits there.
829
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:21.579
In the first game against Lask, you're thinking, God, the
830
00:35:21.619 --> 00:35:25.280
new signings look really good.
831
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:28.780
It's been tough.
832
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:30.360
It was a tough one.
833
00:35:30.369 --> 00:35:33.389
The one at the weekend. The two games, the two
834
00:35:33.429 --> 00:35:36.809
biggest games of the season have been disappointing so far.
835
00:35:37.250 --> 00:35:41.010
The next two games are huge. That's the great thing
836
00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:43.639
in football. You've got games that quickly can turn that
837
00:35:43.659 --> 00:35:44.539
around again.
838
00:35:44.900 --> 00:35:49.360
So I'll be going tomorrow night to the European Games
839
00:35:49.380 --> 00:35:52.539
so hopefully we'll see a performance and then you can
840
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.059
get a wee bit of confidence because I'm not looking
841
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:56.059
forward to Sunday I know you don't like football players
842
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:57.659
you don't look ahead to the games.
843
00:35:57.619 --> 00:36:04.300
Just getting the rest as well because they've struggled physically
844
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.510
and even in between the last games there was no
845
00:36:08.530 --> 00:36:12.190
game and there's still a lot of them pulling up
846
00:36:12.250 --> 00:36:16.050
with cramp and all that I find it really.
847
00:36:15.809 --> 00:36:20.230
Goalkeeper getting cramp that's a new one I've seen that before.
848
00:36:20.090 --> 00:36:24.230
You're hoping it's going to be a that's true like
849
00:36:24.530 --> 00:36:29.590
a because of the backlash from the last game in
850
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.159
fairness it does make a difference not having any fans
851
00:36:32.219 --> 00:36:33.820
in there your own fans.
852
00:36:33.579 --> 00:36:36.480
It's quite difficult for that It affects the referee's decisions
853
00:36:36.539 --> 00:36:37.599
as well in the park, I feel.
854
00:36:37.780 --> 00:36:38.409
You know what I mean?
855
00:36:38.449 --> 00:36:39.150
The energy.
856
00:36:39.510 --> 00:36:39.909
Aye, 100%.
857
00:36:39.909 --> 00:36:42.869
Because I'm sure they'll get a few decisions against us,
858
00:36:42.889 --> 00:36:45.289
but there's no complaints from me in that game. I
859
00:36:45.289 --> 00:36:47.829
thought we were second best all over the park.
860
00:36:48.190 --> 00:36:50.380
It's the first time I've watched that game for a
861
00:36:50.389 --> 00:36:52.739
while that Celtic didn't have anything in the game.
862
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:53.269
Nothing at all.
863
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:55.079
They didn't have control at any time in the game.
864
00:36:55.179 --> 00:36:59.099
As I say, the next game's coming, I'm thinking five,
865
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:01.780
so you've got plenty of time to turn that around
866
00:37:01.820 --> 00:37:04.750
and park ahead on Sunday. Mate, you've been a great guest.
867
00:37:05.190 --> 00:37:08.260
I look forward to the next album and we'll come
868
00:37:08.300 --> 00:37:09.500
and see you at some point.
869
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:10.960
See you next time.