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He was at Broadcast.com before its $5.7 billion sale to Yahoo. A few years later he was out of work with two young children, and two days a week of consulting became a fractional executive career across more than 25 companies.
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Eric Grafstrom has spent 30 years in technology as a CEO, COO, founder and fractional executive, and his biggest lesson is that knowledge is getting cheaper while judgment is getting more valuable.
He started out making more than 50 cold calls a day selling webcasting when many computers had no speakers, watched Broadcast.com grow from an early internet experiment into a multibillion dollar acquisition, and went on to work for Yahoo in London and Silicon Valley, where his landmark deal was the messaging interoperability agreement between Yahoo and Microsoft.
In this conversation we cover why AI can make experienced executives more valuable, what human judgment gives leaders that technology cannot, why every future executive needs to learn sales, the mistakes smart CEOs keep repeating, why investor and founder priorities can conflict, what it takes to make layoff decisions, and why building something valuable matters more than building something impressive.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:09 Is the traditional executive career changing?
02:26 Does AI make experienced executives more valuable?
03:32 Why human judgment still matters
04:50 Broadcast.com and selling the early internet
06:46 From startup chaos to a $5.7B Yahoo acquisition
09:06 The Microsoft and Yahoo deal that raised the stakes
10:40 Losing his job with two young children
11:24 How he became a fractional executive
12:46 The hardest decisions leaders have to make
14:35 The mistakes smart CEOs keep repeating
17:13 Building something impressive versus something valuable
18:23 Why life experience matters in leadership
20:45 Eric's ExecDNA in three words
22:17 Closing
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Mario Rivas
Founder of ExecDNA and host of the ExecDNA Podcast
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Eric Grafstrom
Fractional Executive and Startup Coach
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