Beyond Grades: Developing Cognitive Power to Combat Academic Burnout

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Hello and thank you for tuning in to A Sharp
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Outlook on K4HD Radio and Talk4TV. I am Angela Sharp,
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your host. Our armchair discussions with industry experts will give
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Hello and thank you for joining us on A Sharp Outlook.
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We are the podcast that Provides information for you to
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be able to be successful in your business, in your home,
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in your personal life, in your entrepreneurship, all the things
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that you're interested in doing. And today we want to
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talk about preparing so that you can maybe have that
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business or own that business. after you get your education.
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So we're going to be talking about combating academic burnout.
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So beyond the grades, developing cognitive power to combat academic burnout.
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In an era of distractions, and we know we have those,
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and social pressures that often derail student potential, how do
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we rebuild the internal compass of the learner. Well, you're here,
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and I want you to sit down and take notes
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and enjoy our guest, Dr. Stephen Jones, the Dean at
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Villanova University, to explore the synthesis of brain fitness, cognitive confidence,
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and intrinsic motivation. We're going to discuss how AI and
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neuro-informed training to move students past the fear of failure
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and toward a renewed desire to learn, enjoy learning, and
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excited about learning.
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That's what we're wanting to get to.
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Building cognitive power isn't just about grades. It's about reclaiming
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the purpose of education. Whether you're a student aiming for
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the Dean's List or an educator looking to boost retention rates,
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this conversation offers a new blueprint for academic excellence. I'd
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like to ask Dr. Jones to join me right now
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and so we can have this discussion about how to
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help our students to be more successful in their environment
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and be able to Get the things that they need
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and the things that they want to have so they
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can be more successful in their particular studies in their
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way that they're studying so they can have those tools.
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They can believe that their intelligence is malleable and that
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they can have the cognitive tools to handle challenges. They
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can become resistant to the negative influences such as the
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fear of failure or the imposter syndrome, often exacerbated by
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social media that undermines their academic purpose. And so we're
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going to ask Dr. Jones to join us. And we're
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going to begin our conversation. One of the things I
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do want to say I've had an opportunity to look
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at some of the tools that are available to help
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to retrain the brain and give you that cognitive confidence
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that you can have. So good morning, Dr.
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Jones. Great to see you. Good morning.
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Glad to be here.
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Yes.
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Now talking about just things that we can do to
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help our students to be more successful in college. They're
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spending time there. They're trying to learn. They're being challenged.
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And just how do they get through it without having
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burnout and fear and feeling like they can't make it
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and some of them dropping out and just different things.
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What do you think?
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Many students today are battling negative feedback loops from social media.
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The belief that they aren't smart enough. or the system
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is stacked against them or, you know, how does cognitive
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training break those loops, those thoughts, those things going on?
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Well, this is a great time of the year to
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have that discussion because a lot of students in the
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midst of, you know, first of all, there are those
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who are going to college for the first time in
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their entire family. They're the first person in their entire
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family to go to college. And there's some, you know,
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imposter syndrome situations that come up because it seems like
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they represent the whole world and that heavy weight is
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on their shoulder. But then you also have students returning
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who may have struggled the first year and kind of
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they're having anxiety about whether they'll be able to do
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better the second year. So I think the cognitive development
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has to do with where they're at and what resources
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they're accessing so that they can do better as they
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move forward. A lot of times I've seen students who
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are especially first-generation students who are the top of their
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academic class at their high school not go and get
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help when they go to college because they think it's
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a sign of weakness as a sign of wisdom and
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strength that they're going to get that help. So I think,
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like I said, this is the ideal time to have
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this discussion to reaffirm to the students that they can
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do well. There's a lot of resources, a lot of strategies,
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a lot of ways of thinking that will enable them
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to be successful if they take on that and not
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allow the negative things to pull them away from this
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whole idea that they desire to go to college or
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some other training program. It's something that's in their heart.
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That's something that maybe preparation wasn't as much as they
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thought it was. Once they get into some of these classes,
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they find out, you know, I'm dealing with engineering students,
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so they find out that their calculus wasn't the same
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calculus that they're getting in college. And so anxiety and
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stress and so forth can.
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Build up over that.
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Well, I mean, I was just thinking about because I
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was the first one in my family that went to
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higher education. And you do feel that pressure that I
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have to succeed. I have to make it. Everybody that
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never went is counting on me to be successful to
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do that. And it is a lot of pressure to
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have to have that on your mind as well as
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trying to make those grades.
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And then.
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I was working and going to school So I had had,
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you know, interaction and maybe not on the camp, you know,
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on campus, but going to class and then leaving and
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going home. But when you're there and you have so
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much peer pressure, that's got to be difficult. You know,
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how does building physical brain fitness translate into psychological confidence
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required to handle difficult subjects? Because they are going to
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be challenging. college, it's not high school any longer. And
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they may have breezed through those classes, but it's a
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whole different thing once you get in those other classes.
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Like, whoa, I actually have a team now.
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Yeah, I think.
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That is something that develops as you are going through
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and taking each individual class.
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And I'll make a point here. Show up for class.
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I've seen students, the first couple of classes, get so
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overwhelmed that they stop going to class. And that is
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the worst thing that you can do in terms of
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your development through the class. Once you start missing information,
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then you fall further and further behind. But as a strategy,
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because I'm always thinking about that, if you want to
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continue to develop yourself, two things. First, sit in front
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of the class. Second, make sure that you're meeting with
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your faculty member. That faculty member is there to help
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you to be successful. I didn't know about office hours
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when I went to college. The instructor may have said it,
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but I didn't know what it was. And I just
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didn't know what it was and what I should do
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or how I should use it. So I'm going to
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just share that office hours is that faculty have a
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set amount of time that's available throughout the week. for
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students to come in and get help. And so that's
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what we want to do. We want to position you
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as whoever is listening, whether you're an 18, 24-year-old going
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to college, or whether you're an adult learner beyond 24
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and you're going back to college, this is something that
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you need to do is meet with your faculty member.
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And that's from class to class. They all have hours
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that you can sit down with them. You're feeling behind.
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It will help you to get over some of the
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anxiety and recognize that each class is part of your growth.
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It's not to hinder you. It's to propel you forward
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and to give you more knowledge so that when you
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go out in your profession, you can do well.
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Right, right. Absolutely.
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Do you find that many aren't taking advantage of it
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because they're slightly embarrassed or some kind of emotional thing
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like that's happening inside instead of saying, you know what?
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My education is important. I don't care what anybody else thinks.
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I need to take care of me. So I'm going
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to go take care of me and get my grades
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so I can be successful. And you can giggle, you
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can laugh. That's your personal issue. I mean, you know,
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do we have to build them up a little to
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be able to just go through that challenge?
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Because you always got somebody over in the corner.
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They got to go. It's like, hey, let me tell
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you what to tell them. Tell them, I'm going to graduate.
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What about you? You got time to do all that?
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We'll see who has their cap and gown on and
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just walk away.
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Absolutely.
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Don't let those negative Words hinder you from getting what
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you need. And I think, again, some of it comes
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from they never needed tutoring when they were in high school.
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So why should I need it now that I'm here
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in college? And here's the reality. The students are getting
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A's and B's. They're going for tutoring. So that's how
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they keep their grades up. They go for that additional
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help to keep their grades in that B, A range.
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And you want to be the same person taking advantage
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of what will help you to be successful and not
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allow other people's opinions of you hinder you from getting
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that help.
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And, yeah. Yeah.
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And, you know, you just kind of think about it.
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One of the things I never thought about grades. I
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always thought about the information that I'm learning right now
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is going to open a door of opportunity for me
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to go get paid. And that's how I kept my
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mind straight. You know, it wasn't about the grades, even
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though my grades were very good. And like you said,
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high school from elementary to high school, I was one
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of those kids. I was always in trouble because I,
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I learned really fast. And then I was bored while
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others were trying to learn. And I'd say little things
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I shouldn't have seen.
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That's like, well, I'm bored.
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So they started giving me extra study to do, you know,
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classes and extra courses and things.
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And so.
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It accelerated my learning capability. So by the time I
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was ready for college, I was like, yeah, I'm ready
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to take this on. And I'm going to ask, you
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know what? I already know this stuff because I studied it.
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So can you give me something else? Because I know
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there's more to it than this. And they always were
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very generous with their time and extra information that really helped.
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helped me to excel beyond where I normally would have
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because I took extra work and extra things and kept
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my brain, you know, and then I'd even be trying
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to use it at work and stuff like that.
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So, but yeah, it was one of the bad ones.
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Wow.
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How can we help students transition from a performance-based mindset,
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you know, like focusing on the grades?
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Yeah.
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To a mastery-based mindset where they're focusing on.
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The joy of learning, there is a difference there.
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Just trying to pass and then actually excited about the
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learning because of what it's going to equip you to do.
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You know, one of the things that made me think
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about how I benefited from study groups, that was the
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place to share, interact, prove that I.
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Had learned what I learned in study groups.
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So that may be a good strategy in terms of
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while they're seeing, you know, you're having these conversations about
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the real world and how I'll apply this and having
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those students share with you as well.
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Another thing that colleges also do is they have guest speakers.
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So just going to sit in on some of them
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and hearing what the real world is and the application
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of that knowledge and how they're going to be able
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to use it, I think is the essential element of
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making the connection that my excellence, not just A's and B's,
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but my excellence as a person will pay off. And
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sometimes you need to hear from different perspectives to gain that,
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to understand the value of it. And it's hard because
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all throughout elementary school, middle school, and high school, everyone's
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telling you, you need A's and but they're not telling
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you about their personal development and personal growth.
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And I guess you are developing that all along the line, but.
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Then I explained the value of, you know, how when
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you develop the expertise yourself, when you go out to
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work in corporate America or education or wherever you might be,
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you'll have more, not only head knowledge, but you'll have
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ability knowledge.
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Right.
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Right.
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And you know what, Dr. James? That's one of the
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things I run across when I.
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an interim director of finance or a CFO or whatever,
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or I'm there as a software tech. I'm meeting the
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younger generation and they've gone to school and they got
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their grades and they got their degree, but somewhere along
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the line, they didn't really capture what they were being
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taught because they're coming in. I'm having to get out
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on the whiteboard and do all sorts of things because
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they don't know how to apply the information that they've learned.
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You know, they are just studying for the grades instead
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of studying for what that future, what that knowledge is
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really going to bring to them and how to apply it.
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I'm not sure how we get that across to them,
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but I tell you, and I've worked a long time,
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and every working situation I have had to go in
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and absolutely become a.
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To actually walk them through, and I know there's some training,
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but I'm talking about basic things that they should understand
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that they were learning. So they're getting grades, they're passing tests,
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they're memorizing, but they're not consuming information.
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What we've done at Villanova, where I work, we have
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a professional development course that our students have to take.
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soft skills, the ability to communicate, problem solve, decision make,
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and to take knowledge and use it and apply it
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are the kinds of things that we have in that class.
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And also students get credit for going to hear speakers
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come in, to hear alumni, to hear others come in.
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the other level of growth that you can have even
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before you hit industry. So I would recommend to any
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students that are listening, if your college has a professional
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development course, it may be one or two credits. Ours
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is one or two credits, pass or fail. But I
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just see how much they're able to grow. And we
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assign every student in the course a mentor that's graduated
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from the university. So it's a great way to kind
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of look at and learn things from a different perspective.
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Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. We're running it.
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I mean, it costs so much. You want to come
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away with something that you can actually be able to
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get a return on your investment through your compensation in
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the work that you're doing and going in there with
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the excellence that you were given the opportunity to get
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at the university.
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We want you to succeed.
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You know, people like me, we're getting ready to leave
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the workforce and we need.
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Here's the baton, please. I need to retire.
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Getting them all prepared so they're ready and able to
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do that. One of the things that, you know, some
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of the social media and different things like that, I
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know a lot of people, I hear it from my granddaughter,
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a lot of students are caught up into social media
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and some of the impact that it has, you know,
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on their lives and listening to some of the, you know,
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the negative conversations and things. And I've seen where there
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are tools out there using AI tools to help empower
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them so that when they're feeling like, oh, I'm not
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going to pass this. Oh, I'm not as smart as
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everybody else. Oh, there's tools out there that will give
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you the other side of the conversation you're having in
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your head so that.
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You're not.
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Absorbing all that negative thought and all that you know
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contradictory thinking about where you're going but it's going to
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empower you to say well look at the other things
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give me three things that you've done and been successful
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with and looking at that and it's like well yeah
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i was able to do that yeah sure i'm able
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to pass this course sure i'm able to graduate sure
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i'm able to but just you know if you're going
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to be on the system use it for something that's
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actually benefiting your life instead of all of the negativity.
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I know that at college you have counselors there to
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go to and talk to. Do you find that some
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of them are shying away from talking to a counselor
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to help them?
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Well, that's an interesting question because when COVID happened, I mean,
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the counselors were overwhelmed with the number of students that
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were coming in with all kinds of different issues related
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to that and the whole experience.
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But it hasn't stopped.
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I mean, the students have continued to take advantage of
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the counselors that we have on campus for all kinds
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of issues, including we have a learning support center where
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they can actually go and learn a lot of information
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that will help them academically. So it's really important to, again,
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for students to take advantage of that.
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That's a resource.
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And when you talk about websites that they can find,
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the Learning Center can give you all kinds of websites,
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the library. Contrary to popular belief, a library is still
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a good place for resources. So in terms of websites, apps,
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and so forth, go to the library, ask them questions.
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We do have a health and wellness app that our
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university uses. The universities have the same thing. It's a
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health and wellness app. And you can go in there.
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It'll talk to you. It'll give you some tips and strategies.
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All the universities have different versions of the same thing,
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but you have to find out what it is at
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your university. But I think it's a great tool. You
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can measure how you're growing as well. And then it'll
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tell you, go get help. will tell you, I can
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give you all I can give you. You need to
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go here to get help. So I think that that's
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an important development with it.
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Right. And, you know, even thinking about AI, I know
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I use AI. I'm not against AI. And it has
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its place and its purpose. When, you know, and I'm
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just wondering if students are utilizing this tool to to
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get quick answers instead of spending the time to think
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it through so they build their own analytical skills so
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they can answer the problems themselves.
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And I don't want to say it's cheating.
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You might be getting like a leg up, but are
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you really accomplishing what you need to accomplish when you
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get into the workforce?
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They're not going to be wanting AI answers.
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They're going to want you to do some critical thinking,
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analyze the situation, and come up with multiple options for
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a decision-making to be made. And if you've now become
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dependent on pushing this chat GPT or one of these
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other buttons to get your answers where you really don't
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even know where the information came from, whether it's right
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or wrong, or how you are able to get that
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same answer because you're taking a quick route that is
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going to affect you in the future. You're not going
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to be able to do that when you get on
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the job. You're going to have people standing there. They're
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going to want you to not only present your solutions,
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they're going to want you to present your method of
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getting this information.
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And uh-oh, whoops.
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You're going to be found out.
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So I'm advising you, AI has its purpose. And like
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I said, it can give you maybe some websites and
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some alternatives to where you want to begin looking. But
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it is not the tool that's supposed to work through
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multiple scenarios and come up with the correct scenarios so
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that you can present it to your leadership on your job.
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They're going to find out. And guess what?
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You're going to have more problems than.
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What you ever thought when you now are asked to
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leave and your reference is going to be negative. So
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don't go there. Please don't go there. I'm, I'm warning you.
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I've been working a long time.
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I know.
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You know, they're going to, like I said, you just
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can't give them an answer. They want to see, you know,
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what steps you went through, why you're this particular solution.
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And all of that. And so, yeah.
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Um, just let me to add to that. And I
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just had this conversation with my daughter. She's a professor
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at Chicago state university. And, um, Yeah, her doctorate is
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in computer science, so she knows all about this.
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I go to her. She's an expert.
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Anyway, so she told me she had a student that
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basically had used ChatGPT to get an answer and that
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she could clearly see because this student has never used
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certain words before. So she could clearly see that ChatGPT
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had done the work. And so she was explained to
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her how.
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You're going to be programming, you're going to be learning
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programming during this class. You need to have the ability
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to actually use that programming. And you may be interviewed
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for a job where you actually have to work in
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one of these programs and demonstrate to them in the
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interview that you can use it, you can process it,
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you can think about it, you can apply it. And
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so she had to help the student understand it's not
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just about whether you're doing what's right according to the class.
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is what your ability will be in the future. So
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she called a student into her office and they had
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a conversation. Hopefully she's going in the right direction because
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all of them are definitely using this and it must
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be used in the right way. And we actually have
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software at our university that they can tell whether it's
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from a person or it's chat GPT. So that's something
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that also that you have to be aware of that,
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These universities now have software that's checking out what chat
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chief is putting out as well.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And like I said, if you're going to allow that
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tool to do all of your answering, you're not actually
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learning and absorbing. And you're going to be put to
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the test when you walk in on that job because
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they have tools that can tell whether or not it
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was through some AI system. And then they're going to
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call you on the carpet and say, I need you
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to do this. And if you've never learned the processes,
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if you've never learned how that information is applied, you're
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going to be not only embarrassed, you're going to be
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in a serious situation. So it's not something that you
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think you can skate through. just give it a couple
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questions because in most cases you don't even know the
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right questions to ask to get the right answer because
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to be able to apply information to actually get AI
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to work efficiently and effectively you've got to know the
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questions so that means you have to know the process
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so that means you have to know the information so
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you need to stay.
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Focused She also said to them when they first started
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the class, getting them to respond was like pulling teeth.
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And again, she explained to them, you're going to get
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in the industry and you have to talk. You have
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to give presentations. You have to be able to give
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questions and answer questions. This is practice.
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For real life. So you let them get away with
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it for one class.
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And then after that, she was like, your grade is
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going to be determined based on some of this interaction.
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So why wait?
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And, you know, why don't you just step out as
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a student and be that person that stands out in
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the class and who is ready to learn and jumps
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in there with the conversation with the professor?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And not only that, it's kind
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of like you're really trying to fake it. Through the
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education system and you don't understand that it's your foundation.
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It is something you're going to go back and rely on.
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for the rest of your working career. So you do
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want to know how it really works and not take
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the quick and easy way because you'll find out it's
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quick and easy to get you unemployed. So we don't
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want to want that happening, not when you invest so much.
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But one of the things is, you know, is there
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something that, you know, and I'm not, you know, speaking
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negatively of the college culture or things like that, but
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I know that a lot of them are coming from,
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like you said, they get good grades in their high
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school and they've not had any problems. So most of
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the time they haven't really been paying attention too much.
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is there's some kind of classes or something like that
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that can be done to kind of maybe change the
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campus culture so that you know they're coming in unprepared
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and you're not setting them up to fail, but they
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don't know how to manage themselves and maneuver in that environment.
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that's demanding so much. Is there some kind of, I
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don't know, pre-classes or something that can be done to
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help her prepare them instead of like, you know, walking
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in a room.
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And they're just blown.
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So two things.
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One, I have programs myself, they're high school programs for
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students who are interested in engineering and science. So one
496
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of my programs called Vested, they come on seven Saturdays
497
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.539
and learn engineering and science. This is mostly in the
498
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Philadelphia region. But they come from like 8.30 to 2.30
499
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and they learn engineering.
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They work with some of our volunteers.
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And they also have a summer program for a week
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00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.019
where you actually live on campus. So I would say
503
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.880
that's one way to get some preparation for college life
504
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:55.609
because we have We have speakers, and we have admissions come,
505
00:31:55.710 --> 00:31:58.630
and we have the students interacting with the students on
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00:31:58.670 --> 00:32:01.730
how they succeed in class. So getting in a program
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00:32:01.779 --> 00:32:05.339
like that where you can continually have some interaction with
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college students or some kind of program. Now, they have
509
00:32:09.259 --> 00:32:11.200
them in the business college. They have them in nursing.
510
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:15.599
All these different colleges have these, they call pre-college programs
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00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.839
to kind of get students ready for college. Now, what
512
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you're also talking about It's called a summer bridge program.
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00:32:23.450 --> 00:32:26.670
And a summer bridge program is five or six weeks
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where you actually live on campus before you start school
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and college in the fall. So it is a great
516
00:32:34.470 --> 00:32:38.309
way to adjust to college life, know about the food,
517
00:32:38.329 --> 00:32:41.230
know about how instruction is at a college level before
518
00:32:41.250 --> 00:32:44.210
you actually get in a bunch of college level courses.
519
00:32:45.990 --> 00:32:48.299
And that will help you to make the adjustment you'll
520
00:32:48.339 --> 00:32:52.980
have 30 or 40 other friends that you know when
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00:32:53.019 --> 00:32:55.400
you come to college, as opposed to just coming fresh,
522
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:58.819
not knowing. You'll hang out with these students as you're
523
00:32:58.859 --> 00:33:01.789
going to classes, and you'll have fun events in these
524
00:33:01.849 --> 00:33:04.990
five or six-week summer programs. So ask the college that
525
00:33:05.009 --> 00:33:08.990
you're applying to whether they have a summer bridge program.
526
00:33:10.390 --> 00:33:12.670
They have them in various forms.
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Some are five weeks, some are less than five weeks,
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but some are a week or two before classes start.
529
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This depends on the university. But I have found that
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the students that participate in summer programs graduate at a
531
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higher rate than the average student. So it's definitely worth it.
532
00:33:30.369 --> 00:33:34.869
So this is something that's university to university is not
533
00:33:34.910 --> 00:33:40.829
a standard to actively foster intellectual courage so that they
534
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are really coming in there. you know, ready, prepared, understanding
535
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:50.980
this is about expanding your intelligence and your capabilities. And yes,
536
00:33:51.059 --> 00:33:53.599
there are some parties, but it's not about just coming
537
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:57.869
for some party. It's about, you know, actually, you know,
538
00:33:58.029 --> 00:34:01.309
preparing yourself for the rest of your life or the
539
00:34:01.410 --> 00:34:05.970
rest of your working career, preparing you for, you know, that,
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00:34:06.170 --> 00:34:11.989
and you're gonna need to be using your intellectual capabilities, um,
541
00:34:12.570 --> 00:34:15.659
And you need to build those up during that time
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that you're in your campus.
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Yeah.
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It also varies.
545
00:34:22.739 --> 00:34:26.510
Something else I thought about was this varies from high
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school to high school, but they also have, the high
547
00:34:30.489 --> 00:34:35.070
schools have relationships with community colleges where you can actually
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00:34:35.110 --> 00:34:38.809
get an associate degree while you're.
549
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In high school.
550
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You take, um, I think the third or fourth year,
551
00:34:41.780 --> 00:34:44.239
you actually start going to college classes as opposed to
552
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.840
going to your own classes. So for the parents that
553
00:34:47.860 --> 00:34:52.210
are listening and students, ask that question whether your high
554
00:34:52.250 --> 00:34:56.889
school offers college, community college courses while you're there. And
555
00:34:56.969 --> 00:35:00.349
that's a great way to get introduced to it before
556
00:35:00.369 --> 00:35:02.030
you're actually living on a college campus.
557
00:35:03.489 --> 00:35:07.960
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And just, you know, like you said, preparing.
558
00:35:08.610 --> 00:35:15.840
preparing yourself intellectually, preparing yourself emotionally to understand the real
559
00:35:15.940 --> 00:35:18.940
purpose that you're at the university, because they're going to
560
00:35:18.980 --> 00:35:23.380
be a lot of activities going on besides all of
561
00:35:23.420 --> 00:35:27.840
the classes and still being focused and strong enough to say,
562
00:35:28.260 --> 00:35:32.070
just say no. And, you know, be in there doing
563
00:35:32.110 --> 00:35:35.369
the study or, you know, be in the study groups
564
00:35:35.389 --> 00:35:38.750
or whatever is necessary and, So that you, you know,
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00:35:38.849 --> 00:35:43.170
you are exceeding, you are excelling in what's going on.
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But some of them.
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That they, like I said, they, they come there, they
568
00:35:49.210 --> 00:35:51.309
used to do really well. They didn't have to study
569
00:35:51.349 --> 00:35:55.139
very hard and they were expecting that college was going
570
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:58.579
to be the same way. And bam, they get in
571
00:35:58.619 --> 00:36:02.420
the head with a shot and they begin to start
572
00:36:02.780 --> 00:36:08.000
short circuiting, you know, and, um, And then here comes
573
00:36:08.059 --> 00:36:11.760
the negative thoughts. Here come the negative influences. You know,
574
00:36:11.780 --> 00:36:15.030
because if some are doing bad, they're going to have
575
00:36:15.070 --> 00:36:21.309
a whole group of going bad. So they can feel
576
00:36:21.429 --> 00:36:22.309
like they're strong.
577
00:36:23.059 --> 00:36:23.800
Doing bad.
578
00:36:24.860 --> 00:36:30.449
So, you know, how do we combat that, them short-circuiting
579
00:36:30.610 --> 00:36:34.110
because of all of these negative influences or things that,
580
00:36:34.250 --> 00:36:37.230
you know, the pressures that are out there, how can
581
00:36:37.289 --> 00:36:41.690
we get them so that they are not allowing themselves to,
582
00:36:41.710 --> 00:36:45.820
you know, be pulled off of the path of success?
583
00:36:47.380 --> 00:36:52.929
There's a statement, birds of a feather flock together. So
584
00:36:54.130 --> 00:36:58.960
they did a study and they put people with a
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00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.599
bunch of negative thoughts in a room and a bunch
586
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:04.800
of positive people in the room. And all the positive
587
00:37:04.820 --> 00:37:07.380
people found each other and all the negative people found
588
00:37:07.420 --> 00:37:12.239
each other. So you have to find the positive people
589
00:37:12.340 --> 00:37:15.179
and supportive people. When you sit down with a professor,
590
00:37:15.460 --> 00:37:18.380
you're going to feel, oh, this person feels warm. This
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00:37:18.460 --> 00:37:20.960
person is approachable. And then you're going to find other
592
00:37:20.980 --> 00:37:24.800
professors that are not that approachable. But as you see
593
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.039
those individuals, those are the kind of people that you
594
00:37:27.059 --> 00:37:29.400
need to interact with. Same thing in your class. There
595
00:37:29.420 --> 00:37:32.119
are going to be students who are approachable, students who
596
00:37:32.139 --> 00:37:34.809
are not approachable. And you want to be that person
597
00:37:34.849 --> 00:37:36.449
that reaches out to them. Now, I'm not going to
598
00:37:36.489 --> 00:37:38.650
say they're always going to reach out to you, but
599
00:37:38.710 --> 00:37:41.010
you can take the initiative to reach out to them
600
00:37:41.409 --> 00:37:45.489
and put yourself in positive environments. You have an advisor
601
00:37:46.010 --> 00:37:48.909
on your campus, just like you had a counselor at
602
00:37:48.949 --> 00:37:52.380
your high school. That's the person that's there for you.
603
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:55.760
And they understand everything that's happening in your department. They
604
00:37:55.780 --> 00:37:59.000
know all the other faculty. They know the department chair.
605
00:37:59.699 --> 00:38:03.840
And they can make you feel really positive about that experience.
606
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:06.239
One thing that we didn't bring up here is just
607
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.780
physical fitness. So I'm going to say that. You taking
608
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:13.329
care of yourself physically is an important part of your
609
00:38:13.409 --> 00:38:17.510
mental health, your physical health, your strength and your abilities,
610
00:38:17.949 --> 00:38:22.460
your resting health. some students go off to college and
611
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.519
they no longer work out anymore. They just, you know,
612
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.699
they eat and they go to class. But I need
613
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:32.809
you to continue in the physical fitness aspect. And if
614
00:38:32.849 --> 00:38:35.489
you haven't done it in high school, here's an opportunity
615
00:38:35.510 --> 00:38:38.250
because the gym will be no cost. You go to
616
00:38:38.269 --> 00:38:40.670
the gym, you can use anything that you want there.
617
00:38:41.010 --> 00:38:45.769
They have classes on these campuses, you know, aerobics classes
618
00:38:45.809 --> 00:38:47.340
and other spin classes.
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So, Think about at least three days a week.
620
00:38:50.690 --> 00:38:53.650
Some kind of fitness thing that you're engaged with, whether
621
00:38:53.670 --> 00:38:58.389
it's walking, you're running. I have these conversations with students
622
00:38:58.550 --> 00:39:03.679
all the time that how tired they feel and they're
623
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:09.260
not getting enough sleep. Sleep is essential for mental health overall.
624
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:12.539
So you have to balance that out. And one of
625
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:16.219
the ways that you do that is you study ahead
626
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:18.789
of time. You don't study the night before a test.
627
00:39:19.130 --> 00:39:22.500
You study four or five days before the test so
628
00:39:22.539 --> 00:39:27.170
that you can then be able to do well without stress.
629
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:31.500
That spins into you need a time management system.
630
00:39:31.940 --> 00:39:35.159
You need a time management system that will keep you
631
00:39:35.260 --> 00:39:38.420
on task with all your classes and help you to
632
00:39:38.980 --> 00:39:42.059
really manage what you're doing. Again, I have to talk
633
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.130
about my experience. When I went to college, I thought
634
00:39:45.250 --> 00:39:46.969
that I could keep my schedule in my head. I
635
00:39:47.250 --> 00:39:50.800
didn't leave a daily planner. Back then, they didn't have
636
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.619
electronic meetings, but I didn't need that. And I found
637
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:56.940
that my first semester, I almost failed out of college
638
00:39:57.019 --> 00:39:57.940
because I wasn't.
639
00:39:57.760 --> 00:39:59.400
Managing my time.
640
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.800
I didn't realize that I needed to study five days
641
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.989
before an exam or a quiz. And so I met
642
00:40:07.030 --> 00:40:09.650
with a counselor my second semester, and then I excelled
643
00:40:09.710 --> 00:40:10.170
from there.
644
00:40:10.769 --> 00:40:13.130
But managing your time is critical.
645
00:40:13.190 --> 00:40:16.369
So whether it's with your electronic device that you're managing it,
646
00:40:16.869 --> 00:40:20.750
or an actual handheld.
647
00:40:19.909 --> 00:40:20.969
Old paper.
648
00:40:22.650 --> 00:40:26.929
Book that you use, those are all important tools for
649
00:40:26.989 --> 00:40:29.730
you to be successful and take advantage of.
650
00:40:30.409 --> 00:40:31.489
Oh, absolutely.
651
00:40:31.929 --> 00:40:35.139
You know, one of the things is, as you're in college,
652
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:38.320
you're preparing, you've got to understand what you're preparing to
653
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:44.019
do to become the CEO of your walk through the
654
00:40:44.099 --> 00:40:49.940
working environment. So that CEO needs to be planning what
655
00:40:49.980 --> 00:40:54.199
he's doing every day. He also needs to be focusing
656
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:58.300
on what is important and being able to say, like
657
00:40:58.699 --> 00:41:01.360
I said, just say no. This has nothing to do
658
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:03.960
with where I'm going and what I'm trying to do.
659
00:41:05.469 --> 00:41:08.480
I need to focus on my classes. And like you said,
660
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.280
don't wait till the last hour because you study, you're
661
00:41:12.340 --> 00:41:14.800
not going to remember it because the stress itself is
662
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:19.320
going to keep you from remembering it. So you should be,
663
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:23.000
like I said, If you're there learning, because you want
664
00:41:23.059 --> 00:41:27.090
to learn, not just pass tests, you're going to maintain
665
00:41:27.130 --> 00:41:30.130
that information because you're going to understand it. You're going
666
00:41:30.150 --> 00:41:32.750
to be, you know, thinking about it. You're going to
667
00:41:32.789 --> 00:41:35.190
be saying, Oh, let me, let me go try this
668
00:41:35.389 --> 00:41:38.780
out with you. It was a, you know, a system
669
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:41.199
out there, throw some stuff out there and try it
670
00:41:41.300 --> 00:41:44.639
out and see that you are thinking the way you're
671
00:41:44.659 --> 00:41:49.219
supposed to be thinking. And like I said, managing your emotions,
672
00:41:49.869 --> 00:41:55.269
and managing your study time. And you're the CEO. So
673
00:41:55.789 --> 00:41:59.579
I hate to say it. If you're wanting success, remember
674
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:03.579
you're the CEO. If you fail, we got to blame
675
00:42:03.619 --> 00:42:07.659
the CEO, which is you. You didn't plan.
676
00:42:07.739 --> 00:42:10.110
You didn't rest. You didn't manage.
677
00:42:10.219 --> 00:42:11.309
You didn't study.
678
00:42:11.530 --> 00:42:16.070
And you allowed your emotions to take the top priority
679
00:42:16.829 --> 00:42:21.630
in your planning system instead of being like last or
680
00:42:21.710 --> 00:42:24.880
not at all of what it is that you're trying
681
00:42:24.909 --> 00:42:26.760
to accomplish and what you're trying to do. You have
682
00:42:26.780 --> 00:42:31.420
to really be focused about what you're doing and things
683
00:42:31.460 --> 00:42:34.840
like that. And I know there's going to be time that,
684
00:42:35.179 --> 00:42:39.719
you know, you get stressed and you, you know, but
685
00:42:39.820 --> 00:42:46.079
being able to handle that stress, that stress in your
686
00:42:46.139 --> 00:42:50.590
mind and dealing with it, turning that those negative things
687
00:42:50.690 --> 00:42:55.210
is causing so much stress into something more positive so
688
00:42:55.250 --> 00:42:57.889
that you can have that energy.
689
00:42:57.969 --> 00:43:00.050
You can have that, you know.
690
00:43:00.429 --> 00:43:06.269
Thought, uh, capability to be able to, um, keep on.
691
00:43:06.190 --> 00:43:09.829
Stepping, keep on going, keep on learning, keep on applying.
692
00:43:10.630 --> 00:43:15.679
And, you know, um, not certain, you know, uh, going
693
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:20.280
in a situation where you just totally stop what you're doing,
694
00:43:20.500 --> 00:43:21.380
start having thoughts.
695
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.019
I think I'm just going to quit. I'm not good enough.
696
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:24.739
I can't do it.
697
00:43:25.820 --> 00:43:29.869
You should never say that to yourself because you woke.
698
00:43:29.750 --> 00:43:31.730
Up and you were breathing. That's right.
699
00:43:32.110 --> 00:43:35.070
Woke up, you were breathing. And that means you are
700
00:43:35.170 --> 00:43:40.150
still capable and blessed and able to accomplish the task
701
00:43:40.469 --> 00:43:45.260
for that day. So, Those are things you should never
702
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:46.239
tell yourself.
703
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:46.739
No.
704
00:43:47.500 --> 00:43:50.619
Yes, you can do it. Yes, you're going to do it. Yes,
705
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.960
you better do it. Grandma's saying that right now.
706
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.110
You don't have an option. I'm telling you. You don't
707
00:43:57.150 --> 00:43:58.849
have an option.
708
00:44:02.650 --> 00:44:07.769
So, you know, my background is, you know, in, like
709
00:44:07.809 --> 00:44:10.710
I said, being in finance and different things like that
710
00:44:10.730 --> 00:44:15.909
and And being able to talk about, you know, keeping
711
00:44:15.949 --> 00:44:20.239
your brain straight, keeping your thoughts straight, being able to
712
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:26.739
combat negative thoughts and things, different things like that. You know,
713
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:30.260
having those discussions, whether they're going to a counselor or whomever,
714
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:34.699
if you're feeling like you can't get up and study,
715
00:44:35.139 --> 00:44:40.230
you don't want to go to class, find someone, do something.
716
00:44:40.659 --> 00:44:44.500
to change your mindset so you can always keep that
717
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:48.329
positive focus. And it's going to be up and down,
718
00:44:48.449 --> 00:44:50.449
don't you think, Dr.
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00:44:50.489 --> 00:44:51.730
Jones?
720
00:44:51.969 --> 00:44:52.349
Oh, yes.
721
00:44:52.889 --> 00:44:53.150
Oh, yes.
722
00:44:53.210 --> 00:44:58.369
That's part of growth, too, through trials and tribulations and challenges.
723
00:44:59.250 --> 00:45:01.610
You can grow from that because you'll learn what you
724
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:04.780
do need to do and what you don't need to do.
725
00:45:04.860 --> 00:45:08.440
In fact, again, going back to engineering students, part of
726
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:11.510
being an engineer is failing. You'll keep trying and trying
727
00:45:11.550 --> 00:45:15.090
and trying until you get the solution. So sometimes you're
728
00:45:15.110 --> 00:45:19.159
failing to win at the end, like to get through it.
729
00:45:20.699 --> 00:45:25.139
But I will say one thing here. If you're in class,
730
00:45:26.179 --> 00:45:32.300
every university has a drop period. So the drop period
731
00:45:32.619 --> 00:45:35.880
is the last time that you can drop a class
732
00:45:35.940 --> 00:45:40.789
and not have the grade count against you. Um, so
733
00:45:40.889 --> 00:45:43.110
you need to know what that drop period is for
734
00:45:43.170 --> 00:45:46.710
your particular school. So that if you're in a class
735
00:45:46.789 --> 00:45:49.469
that you just don't think you're getting it, you had
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the midterm, you have a D the instructor telling you
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it's not going to go well. Then you might want
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to consider dropping the class, but you need to know
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the deadline of that class. I had a class like that.
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The reason why I can tell you that because I
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had a class like that, but I didn't know that
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I could drop the class. So, uh, I stayed in
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a class and I didn't pass the class. Not for
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lack of effort, I just didn't understand the class. And
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so I tell every student, don't allow yourself to get
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trapped when you could actually drop a class and take
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it again next semester, maybe even with a different instructor.
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Sometimes one instructor is better than the other instructor.
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And I'd rather you be a wise student and take
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advantage of that than to struggle. Also, To add to that,
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if you, let's say you're taking Calc 1 or Algebra 1,
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whatever it is in college, and you're going to take
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Algebra 2 and you got a D minus or a
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D plus or a D in the first part of it,
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that's a sign that you need help with that class
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if you're taking Algebra 2, Calculus 2. You should get
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a tutor right away for the next semester. Don't wait
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to get that help. second semester because you've already indicated
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that you're not as strong in that subject it's not
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going to get better because now you're in part two
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part one is the foundation for part.
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Two right right and i like what you said about
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you know in engineering the the whole profession itself is
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dealing with finding the right answers and so you're going
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to run into the wrong answers at times and That's
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in tech, that's in finance, and you do have to
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have the capability of coming up with multiple ways of
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trying to find the right solution. And I want to
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say clearly, do not think that wrong is a failure.
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it is a tool to say, okay, let me see
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where it went wrong and maybe make a minor change
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here because that's how you do your analytical work when
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you get in your job. You're not going to be
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successful each time you do it. You're not going to
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come up with the right solution. There are going to
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be other things that are going to be coming in.
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And if you get destroyed emotionally because Somebody said, no,
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this is wrong. Then you have some inner things that
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you need to work on because you're never going to
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be perfect each time. You have to understand you have
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the intellect.
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You have the skills. You have the knowledge.
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You just may be approaching it a different way because
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you didn't.
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Clearly understand what happened.
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The leader wanted because they're thinking a different way than
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what you're thinking.
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So go ask them.
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So give me a little idea. What specifically are you
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wanting to see? And that helps them. So no's are
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not failures. No's are stepping stones to get into the
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right answer.
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That's what they are. So be prepared to do that.
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You think so?
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Yeah.
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And, corporate America will tell you it's the same thing.
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No is just part of developing. I know if you're
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in pharmaceutical, for sure, you're developing medicines. Some of these
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medicines take five and eight years to develop them and
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get them to market. So they're succeeding and failing all
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along the pipeline, but that's not deterring them from moving
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toward their ultimate goal of getting this medicine to market
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and so the same applies here is you know just
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using those stepping stones of growth um sitting down and
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sometimes saying to yourself or writing yourself well here's some
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ways i think i've grown just seeing it visually some
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kind sometimes can get.
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You motivated.
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Yes Well, could you tell the audience some, because I
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know after this conversation, there's going to be people wanting.
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To contact you, Dr. Jones.
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So please share your information as to how.
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They can get in touch with you.
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Sure.
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You can go to my website, which is drjonesbooks.com. That's D-R-J-O-N-E-S-B-O-O-K-S.com.
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You can email me at S-T-E-P-H-E-N. J-O-N-E-S-S at rcn.com. Or
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you can reach out to me by phone at 610-842-3843. Great.
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Because I know they're going to be contacting you to
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get more clarity on how to be successful in their
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classes and really, truly take a positive look at how
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their education is working and going for them. I do
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appreciate your time today, Dr. Jones, and all that you
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give us good wisdom and give the students and the
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parents wisdom on how their student can succeed in a
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very challenging environment like college. And not only is it
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going to be challenging there, it's going to be challenging
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and competitive when you get into the workforce. So it's
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really doing a lot of preparation.
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So last words.
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So I will say to you, persist, resist the feelings
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that you can't do it. You can do all things.
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And if you have the faith and belief and you're
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consistent in that belief, you'll accomplish your goal. And you
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will graduate and we'll be throwing up the confetti of
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all that you've done and all that you've accomplished. But
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it will be behind you, but you'll be moving forward
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into a greater opportunity.
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Yes, thank you.
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And thank you for joining us at A Sharp Outlook.
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We're here every Monday from 11 a.m. Eastern Time, 8 a.m.
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And also, A Sharp Outlook is there.
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I want to thank you for joining us on A
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