S8 EP52: Nick Mohammed

WEBVTT
1
00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:04.339
Hello, I'm Rob Beckett.
2
00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:05.320
And I'm Josh Willicombe.
3
00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:07.940
Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and
4
00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:10.580
I discuss what it's really like to be a parent,
5
00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:12.480
which I would say can be a little tricky.
6
00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:15.529
So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about
7
00:00:15.550 --> 00:00:18.649
the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week
8
00:00:19.030 --> 00:00:21.370
we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping.
9
00:00:21.690 --> 00:00:23.210
Or hopefully how they're not coping.
10
00:00:23.489 --> 00:00:25.129
And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with
11
00:00:25.149 --> 00:00:28.609
your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe.
12
00:00:28.989 --> 00:00:31.250
Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times where
13
00:00:31.309 --> 00:00:37.990
none of us know what we're doing. Hello, you're listening
14
00:00:38.009 --> 00:00:44.950
to Parenting Hell with... Darcy, can you say Rob Beckett?
15
00:00:45.350 --> 00:00:47.670
Rob Beckett. Well done.
16
00:00:47.829 --> 00:00:50.909
And can you say Josh Widdicombe?
17
00:00:51.509 --> 00:00:56.640
Josh Widdicombe. Not quite, but OK.
18
00:00:57.939 --> 00:01:00.179
That was lovely. That was in the bath, I think,
19
00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:00.799
that one, wasn't it, Josh?
20
00:01:01.810 --> 00:01:05.609
It doesn't say. It says, this is my 21-month-old Darcy
21
00:01:05.730 --> 00:01:08.769
attempting your names. Sorry, Josh, but she hasn't quite mastered Widdicombe.
22
00:01:08.829 --> 00:01:10.870
On listening back, I feel my lack of praise at
23
00:01:10.890 --> 00:01:13.569
the end may lead some self-reflection on my parenting style.
24
00:01:13.930 --> 00:01:15.069
No, I didn't think it was too bad.
25
00:01:15.090 --> 00:01:16.370
No, I didn't have an issue with that, no.
26
00:01:16.549 --> 00:01:16.730
No.
27
00:01:17.049 --> 00:01:19.930
Thanks for providing me with reassurance I need that, in fact,
28
00:01:19.969 --> 00:01:20.349
parenting is.
29
00:01:20.349 --> 00:01:21.310
Are you trying to get a burp out?
30
00:01:22.299 --> 00:01:22.840
No, I managed it.
31
00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:24.739
Providing me?
32
00:01:25.739 --> 00:01:29.079
You did it in providing. You went providing me because
33
00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:29.859
you were burnt.
34
00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:32.780
It's all right, all right. Thanks for providing me with
35
00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:33.859
the reassurance I need.
36
00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:35.700
If you came to the live show, you'd know that
37
00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:36.969
you don't fart, you just burp.
38
00:01:37.189 --> 00:01:38.010
I just love a burp.
39
00:01:38.049 --> 00:01:38.689
Never farted.
40
00:01:39.049 --> 00:01:41.810
No, I do occasionally. That, in fact, parenting is bloody
41
00:01:41.829 --> 00:01:44.250
hard work, and between the demands of Weetabix at three
42
00:01:44.269 --> 00:01:47.590
in the morning, oh, that is tough, the constant fight
43
00:01:47.609 --> 00:01:49.439
to get her dressed, and the tantrums because we had
44
00:01:49.459 --> 00:01:52.000
to leave the trolley at Tesco, that some days a
45
00:01:52.019 --> 00:01:53.739
poo in the bath is probably as good as it's
46
00:01:53.780 --> 00:01:56.040
going to get. Get that made into a T-shirt.
47
00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:57.379
Why Weetabix at 3am?
48
00:01:57.480 --> 00:01:58.659
Yeah. Yeah.
49
00:01:59.049 --> 00:02:02.030
Who's having that? Her because she's tired, Mum? Or she's getting.
50
00:02:01.849 --> 00:02:02.879
Up early for the day?
51
00:02:02.950 --> 00:02:05.019
Or is the kid waking up and demanding Weetabix?
52
00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:08.129
You're a bit tired, Bob.
53
00:02:08.139 --> 00:02:10.659
I'm really tired to think about it. What's your favourite
54
00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:11.460
breakfast cereal, Rob?
55
00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:13.120
Do you know what?
56
00:02:13.180 --> 00:02:15.580
I don't really eat it that much because it's... My
57
00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:18.099
favourite is like crunching up cornflakes, but it's like having dessert.
58
00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:18.759
Exactly.
59
00:02:18.780 --> 00:02:19.219
It's mad, isn't it?
60
00:02:19.219 --> 00:02:19.719
It's so bad.
61
00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:22.979
Ricicles for breakfast. What was I thinking for all those years?
62
00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:26.879
Oh, clusters. Oh, I love a cluster. I love nuts
63
00:02:27.430 --> 00:02:29.300
and sugar. I love sugary nuts.
64
00:02:29.659 --> 00:02:30.400
Oh? Oh?
65
00:02:30.699 --> 00:02:33.039
I don't mind the old yoghurt-covered raisin either, to be honest.
66
00:02:33.060 --> 00:02:34.539
Do you like a yoghurt-covered raisin?
67
00:02:34.580 --> 00:02:35.120
I'll have a.
68
00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:37.360
Little yoghurt-covered raisin. I used to think they were healthy.
69
00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:39.479
But it's bad for you, really. It's a lot of sugar.
70
00:02:39.780 --> 00:02:41.990
Yeah, it's a lot of sugar. It's not good yoghurt,
71
00:02:42.090 --> 00:02:42.449
is it?
72
00:02:42.490 --> 00:02:43.870
Nature's sugar cube, the grape.
73
00:02:45.530 --> 00:02:45.710
Ha!
74
00:02:46.530 --> 00:02:47.569
Do you like that?
75
00:02:48.310 --> 00:02:50.590
Yeah, people always slag off grapes, don't they?
76
00:02:50.669 --> 00:02:52.430
Like, there's so much sugar, I'm like, leave it out, mate.
77
00:02:52.469 --> 00:02:54.229
It ain't Skittles. Give me a break.
78
00:02:54.710 --> 00:02:57.270
Come on. It's got to be. Are grapes good for you?
79
00:02:57.289 --> 00:02:58.930
Should I Google that? No, fuck it.
80
00:02:58.949 --> 00:03:00.650
Yeah, Google that, and I'll ask you a question while
81
00:03:00.669 --> 00:03:01.159
you're Googling it.
82
00:03:01.169 --> 00:03:01.409
Okay.
83
00:03:01.530 --> 00:03:04.229
What's your favourite breakfast cereal? Obviously, apart from porridge.
84
00:03:04.610 --> 00:03:07.180
Do you know what? As a kid, I loved a ricicle,
85
00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:09.840
but now I would find that fucking banana. It's a
86
00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:12.110
rice crispy, but covered in the stuff Frosties are covered in.
87
00:03:12.379 --> 00:03:14.419
In lockdown, I got in a real funk of just
88
00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:17.159
scooping in a spoonful of Nutella into my cereal, whatever
89
00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:17.680
it was, with milk.
90
00:03:17.699 --> 00:03:18.139
Did you?
91
00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:20.270
And it was not good. Oh, ricicles, yeah, I know it.
92
00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:23.270
I know them. Look at these crisps I got yesterday, Rob.
93
00:03:23.449 --> 00:03:23.889
What are they?
94
00:03:24.009 --> 00:03:25.629
I took a photo to put on Instagram.
95
00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:26.740
Yeah.
96
00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:27.919
Busy day?
97
00:03:28.939 --> 00:03:29.840
Hugely busy.
98
00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:31.400
Busy day of content, was it for you?
99
00:03:31.780 --> 00:03:34.099
Well, it was. That's why I've held it back for today, Rob.
100
00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:37.229
I just don't think you can get away with this
101
00:03:37.409 --> 00:03:38.830
from a copyright point of view.
102
00:03:39.509 --> 00:03:42.610
Monster Claws. And they are near enough exactly the same
103
00:03:42.650 --> 00:03:43.689
shape as Monster Munch.
104
00:03:43.729 --> 00:03:48.050
They're purple packet, pickled onion flavour, picture of basically the
105
00:03:48.090 --> 00:03:48.849
same monster.
106
00:03:48.870 --> 00:03:49.430
So how's that allowed?
107
00:03:49.449 --> 00:03:52.349
And they're called Monster Claws. I don't know. And look
108
00:03:52.370 --> 00:03:53.189
at the other one I got.
109
00:03:53.750 --> 00:03:55.810
And it's all the same. Snack Riot with an R.
110
00:03:56.610 --> 00:03:57.289
I spelled that wrong.
111
00:03:57.449 --> 00:03:58.250
Look at these ones.
112
00:03:59.370 --> 00:04:00.710
Tiles for squares.
113
00:04:01.550 --> 00:04:02.110
No.
114
00:04:02.509 --> 00:04:03.930
Fucking mental, isn't it?
115
00:04:03.949 --> 00:04:05.449
Tiles is a piss take, isn't it?
116
00:04:05.870 --> 00:04:06.629
Unbelievable.
117
00:04:06.650 --> 00:04:09.370
So monster claws and tile. Who wants to eat a tile?
118
00:04:09.430 --> 00:04:10.150
I'll eat a square.
119
00:04:10.250 --> 00:04:13.009
Yeah, you've got to come up with a better replacement
120
00:04:13.030 --> 00:04:14.590
for squares and tiles, haven't you?
121
00:04:14.629 --> 00:04:16.709
Snide crisps. Yeah, you've got to stick that up on
122
00:04:16.740 --> 00:04:17.189
the Instagram.
123
00:04:17.379 --> 00:04:18.500
Yeah, I'll put that on my Instagram.
124
00:04:18.540 --> 00:04:21.600
Look at that. The red on that per bag. 4.9
125
00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:23.720
grams of fat. I'll look at that now. How's your
126
00:04:23.740 --> 00:04:24.480
fitness going, Josh?
127
00:04:24.819 --> 00:04:25.939
I'm enjoying it a lot, Rob.
128
00:04:26.180 --> 00:04:29.279
What are you enjoying about exercise or eating healthy?
129
00:04:29.420 --> 00:04:31.470
I much prefer running to doing the gym.
130
00:04:31.790 --> 00:04:33.129
What, the weights? You don't like the weights?
131
00:04:33.529 --> 00:04:37.389
My problem with the weights is I just end up
132
00:04:37.430 --> 00:04:38.709
checking my phone too much.
133
00:04:39.470 --> 00:04:41.350
What, like because there's downtime in between?
134
00:04:41.370 --> 00:04:41.750
Yeah.
135
00:04:42.420 --> 00:04:44.540
I'm not very good at resting between each set.
136
00:04:44.819 --> 00:04:46.439
All right, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
137
00:04:46.500 --> 00:04:48.220
No, but like I want to get it over and
138
00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:49.899
done with, but then I actually can't do.
139
00:04:49.779 --> 00:04:51.720
The next set properly because I'm still tired from the
140
00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:52.220
first set.
141
00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:54.160
What I need to do is write down what I'm
142
00:04:54.180 --> 00:04:54.740
going to do.
143
00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:54.839
Yeah.
144
00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:58.379
And then go in without my phone.
145
00:04:58.740 --> 00:05:00.300
Because at the moment you're putting it into an app,
146
00:05:00.420 --> 00:05:02.430
aren't you? On the phone of what you're doing. Because
147
00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:03.470
we've got the same trainer guy.
148
00:05:03.850 --> 00:05:06.329
Yeah. We're both having midlife crises.
149
00:05:06.449 --> 00:05:09.769
No, I don't think educate yourself on nutrition and try
150
00:05:09.810 --> 00:05:11.170
and exercise is a midlife crisis.
151
00:05:11.350 --> 00:05:11.529
Yeah.
152
00:05:12.170 --> 00:05:13.769
I tell you what is a midlife crisis. The vest
153
00:05:13.829 --> 00:05:14.560
I bought for holiday.
154
00:05:15.389 --> 00:05:19.160
I haven't bought a vest. Have you not?
155
00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:21.620
But the problem, even if I've got nice arms through
156
00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:25.110
doing bicep curls, they're all hairy like an old dad.
157
00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:26.699
They're called hairy dad arms.
158
00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:28.829
I'm just getting a call from Ewan Shaw. Can I
159
00:05:28.870 --> 00:05:30.250
just tell them I'll call them back in a minute?
160
00:05:30.550 --> 00:05:31.110
Ewan Shaw?
161
00:05:31.569 --> 00:05:34.110
Hiya. Could you call me back in about 15 minutes?
162
00:05:34.290 --> 00:05:35.629
Stick it on speaker. What's he want to know?
163
00:05:35.970 --> 00:05:36.209
All right.
164
00:05:36.250 --> 00:05:36.550
Cheers.
165
00:05:37.050 --> 00:05:37.290
Bye.
166
00:05:38.110 --> 00:05:38.649
Who's Ewan?
167
00:05:39.509 --> 00:05:40.250
No, Ewan.
168
00:05:40.389 --> 00:05:41.389
You, Ewan Shaw.
169
00:05:41.410 --> 00:05:41.750
Oh.
170
00:05:41.769 --> 00:05:44.670
It's my house insurance. I've got to renew my house insurance,
171
00:05:45.149 --> 00:05:47.110
but I've got to pay it over the phone.
172
00:05:47.129 --> 00:05:48.649
Oh, do you feel like you're being scammed?
173
00:05:49.029 --> 00:05:49.250
Yes.
174
00:05:50.670 --> 00:05:52.189
I feel like I'm being scammed all the time.
175
00:05:52.250 --> 00:05:54.699
It bounces when I pay it online. And they were like, well,
176
00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:56.120
we can just do it over the phone. And I
177
00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:57.560
was like, oh, here we fucking go.
178
00:05:57.939 --> 00:05:59.600
Oh, here we go. Trousers and pants down.
179
00:05:59.620 --> 00:06:00.439
Take what you want.
180
00:06:01.100 --> 00:06:02.500
You'll be in a Daily Mail headline.
181
00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:04.800
You want me to just read my fucking card numbers
182
00:06:04.819 --> 00:06:06.620
down the phone? Well, I'll tell you what. I'm going
183
00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:08.180
to bloody do it. That's what I'm going to do.
184
00:06:08.220 --> 00:06:08.500
Yeah.
185
00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:10.810
Well, there's no other way to do it. I'll drive down, mate. No,
186
00:06:10.819 --> 00:06:11.189
you can't.
187
00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:11.759
All right. Yeah.
188
00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:13.509
Yeah, no, I get stressed about that all the time,
189
00:06:13.529 --> 00:06:15.129
to be honest. How is your to-do list? You were
190
00:06:15.149 --> 00:06:15.990
quite stressed last week.
191
00:06:16.009 --> 00:06:17.410
Yeah, my to-do list is quite small.
192
00:06:17.670 --> 00:06:19.930
Now that's good. Well done. I'm very excited about this guest.
193
00:06:20.149 --> 00:06:20.350
Yeah.
194
00:06:20.389 --> 00:06:20.910
Nick Muhammad.
195
00:06:21.269 --> 00:06:22.149
Big fan of Nick Muhammad.
196
00:06:22.290 --> 00:06:22.430
Yeah.
197
00:06:22.449 --> 00:06:24.189
Do you know what I love about him? Great guy.
198
00:06:24.329 --> 00:06:24.879
Great guy.
199
00:06:24.949 --> 00:06:28.569
Lovely person. One of the nicest people we meet. Super talented.
200
00:06:29.050 --> 00:06:29.209
Yeah.
201
00:06:29.269 --> 00:06:31.069
Incredible actor. Incredible comedian.
202
00:06:31.110 --> 00:06:31.730
Mr. Swallow.
203
00:06:31.769 --> 00:06:34.910
Great stage show. Obviously in Ted Lasso. In his show Intelligence.
204
00:06:35.050 --> 00:06:35.509
He's written.
205
00:06:35.529 --> 00:06:37.540
He's got new stuff coming out. He's in The Martian
206
00:06:37.569 --> 00:06:39.720
with Matt Damon. This guy's Hollywood.
207
00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:40.180
Yeah.
208
00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.939
And he's on our show and he's got three kids.
209
00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:44.139
Yeah.
210
00:06:44.509 --> 00:06:46.470
And I've been asking him to do this for three years.
211
00:06:46.569 --> 00:06:48.730
We have quite a weird text exchange, me and Nick Muhammad.
212
00:06:49.089 --> 00:06:49.269
Yeah.
213
00:06:49.449 --> 00:06:51.170
Where basically every year he asks me to do his
214
00:06:51.209 --> 00:06:51.810
charity gig.
215
00:06:52.189 --> 00:06:52.829
Oh, yeah, I've done that.
216
00:06:53.069 --> 00:06:55.050
And every year I'm busy. And I genuinely am. I'm
217
00:06:55.069 --> 00:06:56.790
not trying to get out of it. And then I say,
218
00:06:56.870 --> 00:06:58.029
we should get you on the pod. He goes, that'd
219
00:06:58.050 --> 00:07:03.149
be great. What's your email? Nothing happens. Another year goes past. Rob,
220
00:07:03.170 --> 00:07:04.769
can you do my charity gig? Oh, sorry, I can't, Nick.
221
00:07:04.790 --> 00:07:06.769
I'm on tour then. I should really get you the pod.
222
00:07:06.949 --> 00:07:09.420
What's your email? He sends me the email. But finally,
223
00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:15.069
we have made it happen. This all started... 11th of September, 2022.
224
00:07:15.069 --> 00:07:17.519
And do you know how we've got him on the pod?
225
00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:21.579
How? Well, I think neither of you managed to do
226
00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:24.399
it yourselves, but his PR got in touch with Michael
227
00:07:24.420 --> 00:07:25.259
because he's on promo.
228
00:07:26.019 --> 00:07:29.680
Okay. Well, that didn't work, did it? And I've still
229
00:07:29.699 --> 00:07:33.699
not done his charity gig. Bloomsbury Theatre every year.
230
00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:34.060
There we go.
231
00:07:34.259 --> 00:07:36.079
Nick, give me the dates. I forgot to ask him
232
00:07:36.100 --> 00:07:39.959
about it, but Nick, Becca will be listening. Becca, Nick's wife.
233
00:07:39.980 --> 00:07:42.050
We talk about Becca quite a lot in the episode.
234
00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.019
Please tell Nick to message me with the date for
235
00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:45.500
the next one.
236
00:07:45.540 --> 00:07:46.240
I promise to do it.
237
00:07:46.660 --> 00:07:46.930
Yeah.
238
00:07:46.990 --> 00:07:52.649
Namaste. Oh, here's Nick Muhammad. Nick Muhammad, welcome to the show.
239
00:07:52.709 --> 00:07:54.209
We've wanted this a long time, Nick.
240
00:07:54.550 --> 00:07:56.649
We have wanted it a long time. I think it
241
00:07:56.670 --> 00:07:58.529
was a cat's discount down where we said that we
242
00:07:58.550 --> 00:07:59.110
should do this.
243
00:07:59.209 --> 00:08:01.069
So, yeah. And thank you for having me. And I
244
00:08:01.110 --> 00:08:04.189
have to say, first off, my wife, Becca, is a huge,
245
00:08:04.610 --> 00:08:05.829
huge fan of the show.
246
00:08:05.870 --> 00:08:06.629
Hello, Becca.
247
00:08:06.649 --> 00:08:09.750
Really, like, got her through lockdown. Yeah, hello, Becca. And so, yeah,
248
00:08:09.870 --> 00:08:10.310
big shout.
249
00:08:10.230 --> 00:08:10.569
Out to her.
250
00:08:10.649 --> 00:08:11.810
She's upstairs with them. But, yeah.
251
00:08:12.189 --> 00:08:15.470
And has she given you any kind of steers on
252
00:08:15.490 --> 00:08:16.649
what to do?
253
00:08:16.670 --> 00:08:19.310
She said, the thing is, everyone on it is really funny,
254
00:08:19.410 --> 00:08:24.180
so I think you're going to struggle. She was like, no,
255
00:08:24.209 --> 00:08:27.310
everyone's prepared. It sounds like really awesome. Carson, brilliant. So
256
00:08:27.509 --> 00:08:29.329
I am a little bit nervous. Oh, no.
257
00:08:29.420 --> 00:08:32.039
We've had some real dog shit on here, Nick. Don't worry.
258
00:08:32.179 --> 00:08:36.000
Don't worry. OK, good, good. Well, I look forward to
259
00:08:36.019 --> 00:08:38.600
whatever comes. But she's a huge fan of the show.
260
00:08:39.450 --> 00:08:40.669
Oh, well, shout out to Becca.
261
00:08:40.750 --> 00:08:42.639
But I got to it later, but yeah, huge shout out.
262
00:08:42.649 --> 00:08:44.289
You don't have to pretend that you listen, Nick, because
263
00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:45.000
we know you don't.
264
00:08:45.299 --> 00:08:48.080
I don't think any comedians should listen.
265
00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:49.659
No, I've only listened to it in the car, but
266
00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:55.120
I'll be honest, it was because Becca was listening.
267
00:08:55.139 --> 00:08:56.820
So how many kids have you and Becca got, Nick?
268
00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:57.440
Set the scene.
269
00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:01.169
We've got three. We've got three. So we've got the
270
00:09:01.210 --> 00:09:03.690
two boys, Finn and Arthur. who are eight and six.
271
00:09:03.870 --> 00:09:06.730
And then Annie is one. So we did a proper
272
00:09:06.750 --> 00:09:08.240
kind of manual reset.
273
00:09:08.379 --> 00:09:10.080
Because she loved the pod so much.
274
00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:12.299
Is that what you call sex? A manual reset?
275
00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:13.200
Manual reset, yeah.
276
00:09:13.220 --> 00:09:16.340
Becca, fancy a manual reset? Because I've got a six
277
00:09:16.379 --> 00:09:19.080
and eight-year-old. And then, yeah, having a one-year-old on top
278
00:09:19.100 --> 00:09:20.870
of that, I think would be hard.
279
00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:22.429
Have you both got two? Yeah.
280
00:09:22.610 --> 00:09:25.470
Josh's are a bit younger. So six and two or three.
281
00:09:25.570 --> 00:09:29.009
So I could still do a manual reset. Yesterday, I
282
00:09:29.289 --> 00:09:32.350
was woken by the cat at 5 15 in the
283
00:09:32.379 --> 00:09:34.950
morning I didn't get back to sleep right and I
284
00:09:35.009 --> 00:09:38.549
was exhausted all day and I was like fuck this
285
00:09:38.629 --> 00:09:41.970
is how I used to live yeah all the time
286
00:09:42.129 --> 00:09:45.509
oh yeah and I was like I can't imagine this
287
00:09:45.629 --> 00:09:48.610
now so how was it to go back.
288
00:09:48.830 --> 00:09:55.009
It's so difficult to know objectively whether it's just because
289
00:09:55.029 --> 00:09:57.750
Annie is and you know Finn and Arthur are such
290
00:09:57.789 --> 00:09:59.490
a delight but you know Annie as a baby is
291
00:09:59.570 --> 00:10:02.100
such a delight not that it makes it easy but
292
00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:04.200
she is a delight or whether it's just that we're
293
00:10:04.220 --> 00:10:06.480
more used to it because we've already had two kids
294
00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:10.259
but the fact that I feel like going from one
295
00:10:10.299 --> 00:10:13.440
to two is 100% different but going two to three
296
00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:16.500
just didn't feel I mean even though it was literally
297
00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:19.769
Arthur had just started school and Becca's like I.
298
00:10:19.830 --> 00:10:23.509
Want a third. She didn't say it like that. But
299
00:10:23.529 --> 00:10:24.870
we were like, so we have a third. If we're
300
00:10:24.889 --> 00:10:25.950
going to do it, we should probably do it now.
301
00:10:26.210 --> 00:10:27.970
Can I ask a bit of a personal question? How
302
00:10:28.090 --> 00:10:31.929
quickly after that conversation did you manually reset? When you
303
00:10:31.970 --> 00:10:33.779
said we've got to do it now, was it up
304
00:10:33.820 --> 00:10:34.200
we go?
305
00:10:34.220 --> 00:10:36.820
Look, we have been very lucky. It was, you know,
306
00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:39.059
in terms of conceiving and stuff. And, you know, it
307
00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:45.049
was within 40 seconds. It was in a couple of
308
00:10:45.070 --> 00:10:45.710
months or so.
309
00:10:45.750 --> 00:10:48.830
Really? We were really lucky. Becca's one of three and
310
00:10:48.850 --> 00:10:50.629
we'd always wanted three. And so we were like.
311
00:10:51.250 --> 00:10:52.690
Becca had gone back to work and we were like,
312
00:10:52.789 --> 00:10:53.970
but if we are going to do it, she wanted
313
00:10:53.990 --> 00:10:55.379
to do it before she was 40 and blah, blah, blah.
314
00:10:55.389 --> 00:10:57.059
You know, so we were just like, oh, you know, well,
315
00:10:57.179 --> 00:10:59.019
why not? It can't be any more chaotic.
316
00:10:59.059 --> 00:11:01.759
Turns out it is a lot more chaotic, but not
317
00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.019
as chaotic as I think we'd anticipated. But it is
318
00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:07.610
wonderful and we're so lucky and Annie is a dream.
319
00:11:07.659 --> 00:11:10.629
And what's great, because Finn and Arthur... even though it
320
00:11:10.830 --> 00:11:12.470
did feel a little bit like, oh, wow, we're really
321
00:11:12.509 --> 00:11:15.710
sort of starting from scratch again. Because Finn and Arthur, well,
322
00:11:15.730 --> 00:11:18.460
they were seven and five when Annie was born. Like, they,
323
00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:22.529
I mean, they adore her so much. They entertain her.
324
00:11:22.580 --> 00:11:25.360
They help, you know, they have done so many kind
325
00:11:25.379 --> 00:11:27.379
of brilliant things to kind of make it a lot easier.
326
00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:29.220
So, yeah, we're very fortunate in that regard.
327
00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:32.970
Because they're a bit older. Because obviously there's a kind of,
328
00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:36.320
it doesn't feel like she's treading on their turf as much,
329
00:11:36.659 --> 00:11:37.179
or does it?
330
00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:39.399
Yeah, I know what you mean. I mean, fit enough
331
00:11:39.419 --> 00:11:41.820
that they share a room. I mean, they adore each
332
00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:42.659
other as well.
333
00:11:42.779 --> 00:11:45.000
They've got a very special bond because they're only 20
334
00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:46.470
months apart in age, actually.
335
00:11:46.850 --> 00:11:50.629
So they're close in age and they've always shared a room. And,
336
00:11:50.669 --> 00:11:53.129
you know, they obviously did like those quite formative years
337
00:11:53.210 --> 00:11:55.830
in lockdown together as well. I mean, they have their
338
00:11:55.870 --> 00:11:58.720
moments when they really kind of argue, but they're quite
339
00:11:58.740 --> 00:12:01.159
a unit. And only just recently now that Annie's sort
340
00:12:01.179 --> 00:12:03.899
of tottering around and sort of grabbing stuff, you know,
341
00:12:03.940 --> 00:12:07.470
if they're doing whatever, Lego or a jigsaw, If Annie's
342
00:12:07.490 --> 00:12:09.889
in the room, we're suddenly like, oh, careful, because Annie,
343
00:12:09.909 --> 00:12:11.720
you know, or if Annie grabs something, we just let
344
00:12:11.740 --> 00:12:12.960
her have it. And it's like, well, no, but she
345
00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:13.620
does want that.
346
00:12:13.659 --> 00:12:15.259
We can't really do anything about it. And that kind
347
00:12:15.299 --> 00:12:17.460
of infuriates them a little bit. They're like, well, how
348
00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:19.649
are we meant to, you know, build the whatever? But,
349
00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:22.019
you know, broadly, though, they just get on with it
350
00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:22.860
and they adore her.
351
00:12:22.899 --> 00:12:25.779
Because I've got two girls that are the same age gap,
352
00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:27.659
sort of like they're bang on two years apart, but
353
00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:31.019
still close. But in lockdown, it was very much them two.
354
00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:32.980
Because I've looked back at videos now and they were like,
355
00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:35.340
How old would they have been? They've been like three
356
00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:37.710
and five or yeah, but between two and a half
357
00:12:37.750 --> 00:12:40.789
and five and a half. And just at the age
358
00:12:40.809 --> 00:12:42.730
where they're sort of big enough to properly play and
359
00:12:42.830 --> 00:12:43.789
get rough with each other.
360
00:12:43.809 --> 00:12:46.820
And they were mental. It was like two wrestlers just
361
00:12:46.860 --> 00:12:50.139
in the garden for two years, just rolling around and stuff.
362
00:12:50.179 --> 00:12:52.299
And I don't know, maybe as years go on, there
363
00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:53.899
will be sort of siblings maybe that have got a
364
00:12:53.940 --> 00:12:56.940
slightly closer bond because... it was just them two for
365
00:12:56.980 --> 00:12:58.460
two years and no one else, you know?
366
00:12:58.740 --> 00:12:59.360
Completely, yeah.
367
00:12:59.379 --> 00:13:00.639
I mean, I think the whole, I mean, you know,
368
00:13:00.659 --> 00:13:03.539
like we'll learn about the after effects of COVID for
369
00:13:03.590 --> 00:13:05.620
years and years and years, like in terms of like
370
00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:07.809
what it's done to like things like that, like special
371
00:13:07.830 --> 00:13:10.090
bonds between kids. So Finn and Arthur must have been, yeah,
372
00:13:10.129 --> 00:13:12.610
sort of four and two or five and three or whatever,
373
00:13:12.730 --> 00:13:14.809
you know, as we were going into lockdown.
374
00:13:15.309 --> 00:13:16.409
We had just moved.
375
00:13:17.070 --> 00:13:20.029
I've lived in London since like 2005 or whatever, but
376
00:13:20.110 --> 00:13:22.690
you know how it is and it's London. And, you know,
377
00:13:23.169 --> 00:13:25.750
the big prefix to all this is, personal problems and
378
00:13:25.769 --> 00:13:27.929
we're very very lucky but we had just then in
379
00:13:27.929 --> 00:13:29.870
2019 we just managed to afford to buy a place
380
00:13:29.929 --> 00:13:32.409
in london and it was a little flat we're in
381
00:13:32.470 --> 00:13:34.100
richmond which is really nice but it was a little
382
00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:37.580
flat and you know to a degree not it was
383
00:13:37.580 --> 00:13:42.179
70 square meters and we had two very energetic boys
384
00:13:42.259 --> 00:13:47.210
so our neighbors downstairs hated like hated us with an
385
00:13:47.750 --> 00:13:50.929
absolute passion like We don't live there anymore now, so
386
00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:53.019
I feel quite happy to sort of speak about it.
387
00:13:53.259 --> 00:13:54.639
But they were insane.
388
00:13:54.659 --> 00:13:58.600
There were two sisters who ran this sort of Christian
389
00:13:58.700 --> 00:14:00.240
clothing business from their home.
390
00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:02.580
I don't quite know what that means. Dog collars. That
391
00:14:02.899 --> 00:14:06.000
was what they did. Dog collars. Yeah, just lots of
392
00:14:06.019 --> 00:14:09.340
dog collars. Huge business. I think by all accounts, what
393
00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:12.019
they did was they imported clothes and then sort of...
394
00:14:12.740 --> 00:14:15.379
not quite sort of so sort of crucifixion but like
395
00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:16.720
they sort of sort of jazzed them up a little
396
00:14:16.740 --> 00:14:17.600
bit and then sold them.
397
00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:20.759
To christians it was very odd but that genuinely i'm
398
00:14:20.779 --> 00:14:22.059
not it feels like i'm sort of saying it or
399
00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.460
having a part that is just what their business model was.
400
00:14:24.659 --> 00:14:26.639
But anyway they were downstairs and they were like they
401
00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:26.899
were in.
402
00:14:26.899 --> 00:14:29.759
Like their 20s and you know their dad had bought
403
00:14:29.779 --> 00:14:31.559
them their flat which we knew and.
404
00:14:31.500 --> 00:14:37.570
Like so you're automatically going fuck them let's play jumpy literally.
405
00:14:37.129 --> 00:14:38.970
I'm not making this up when we first moved in
406
00:14:39.009 --> 00:14:41.210
and there's like boxes everywhere Finn and Arthur like you
407
00:14:41.230 --> 00:14:43.470
know four and two or whatever they like knocked on
408
00:14:43.490 --> 00:14:45.600
the door they handed us the lease and they were
409
00:14:45.620 --> 00:14:46.759
like oh just so you know you've got to carpet
410
00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:48.320
the kitchen and we're like we're not going to carpet
411
00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:49.639
the kitchen because that's.
412
00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:52.220
Just not going to work that's mental that was our
413
00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.009
opening gambit and then they proceeded to give Arthur who
414
00:14:56.029 --> 00:14:58.759
was like literally two, an example of how he needed
415
00:14:58.799 --> 00:14:59.399
to walk.
416
00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:01.659
In the house. And Arthur was just like, ah, fuck.
417
00:15:01.940 --> 00:15:02.840
What was the walk?
418
00:15:03.299 --> 00:15:04.940
Oh, it was sort of like this sort of tiptoe-y
419
00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:07.259
sort of, almost like you're on high heels, but really
420
00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:08.100
tiptoe-y sort of.
421
00:15:08.100 --> 00:15:10.779
Delicate walk that wouldn't affect their lives in any way.
422
00:15:10.860 --> 00:15:14.519
Like a kind of offensive mincing from the 80s, like
423
00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:15.049
a kind of.
424
00:15:15.419 --> 00:15:18.450
Oh, like, yes, the daintiest little walk across the room.
425
00:15:18.590 --> 00:15:21.049
And like, our mistake was, because we wanted, like, we
426
00:15:21.070 --> 00:15:23.450
were also aware that, oh, okay, well, we don't want
427
00:15:23.470 --> 00:15:25.350
to sort of get on, like, bad terms. So we
428
00:15:25.429 --> 00:15:28.289
tried to do everything we literally had the floor like
429
00:15:28.330 --> 00:15:31.090
taken up we had like insulation like sound like proper
430
00:15:31.110 --> 00:15:33.070
like acoustic insulation like i.
431
00:15:33.029 --> 00:15:34.309
Know you would as well you are one of the
432
00:15:34.350 --> 00:15:36.289
nicest people i've ever met so you would be like
433
00:15:36.309 --> 00:15:38.429
okay fair enough let's try and who.
434
00:15:38.289 --> 00:15:42.389
Lived there before you well the people who sold us
435
00:15:42.470 --> 00:15:45.600
the flat they apparently they used to own like both
436
00:15:45.820 --> 00:15:48.899
those flats And so they actually sold the ground floor
437
00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:50.559
one to these two.
438
00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:51.720
I won't say the names.
439
00:15:51.740 --> 00:15:53.240
I was about to say the names. And then they
440
00:15:53.259 --> 00:15:55.100
sold it as their other one. And they didn't let
441
00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:56.539
on at all. They didn't tell us at all that
442
00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.919
this was probably going to be an issue. Because they
443
00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:00.950
hadn't had the flooring gardens. And they were like in
444
00:16:01.070 --> 00:16:03.110
breach of their lease. So we were like, oh, crikey.
445
00:16:03.129 --> 00:16:04.789
And then, of course, we went into lockdown. And then
446
00:16:04.809 --> 00:16:06.889
it was like, oh, lordy, this is going to be
447
00:16:07.210 --> 00:16:07.629
really difficult.
448
00:16:07.649 --> 00:16:09.649
Did you have a garden or access to a garden?
449
00:16:09.909 --> 00:16:10.889
No, no. No garden.
450
00:16:10.950 --> 00:16:12.669
Oh, my God. But, you know, again.
451
00:16:13.009 --> 00:16:15.399
We were so fortunate. We got to go to the
452
00:16:15.419 --> 00:16:17.259
park nearby and have a wander around. And it was
453
00:16:17.500 --> 00:16:21.240
obviously absolutely fun. But there was just an element of like, oh, crikey, because,
454
00:16:21.259 --> 00:16:23.480
you know, they would, but they would do insane things.
455
00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:25.399
Like they would come up at like five in the afternoon.
456
00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:27.000
This is like, and I distinctly remember, this is like
457
00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:29.470
10 weeks into lockdown. And they knocked on our door
458
00:16:29.570 --> 00:16:31.649
and said, you woke us from our afternoon nap.
459
00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:39.559
But also the idea that they were Christians as well.
460
00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:41.519
And that was like, like part of their business, like
461
00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.500
literally on the packaging of their parcels. They had like
462
00:16:44.539 --> 00:16:47.450
a quote from John chapter, whatever about literally, it wasn't
463
00:16:47.470 --> 00:16:50.210
quite love thy neighbor, but it was something of the ilk.
464
00:16:50.629 --> 00:16:51.269
And it was like.
465
00:16:51.309 --> 00:16:55.809
Where's your forgiveness? Where is this famous forgiveness, guys?
466
00:16:55.929 --> 00:16:58.990
They were absolutely sort of phenomenal characters.
467
00:16:59.009 --> 00:17:01.350
Can I ask a question about them? I know it's
468
00:17:01.769 --> 00:17:02.529
not about them.
469
00:17:02.769 --> 00:17:03.679
Yeah, no, it should be.
470
00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:07.740
Were the two sisters napping at the same time?
471
00:17:08.259 --> 00:17:08.880
Oh, I don't know.
472
00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:11.960
They told us so many insane things. I think they
473
00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.920
shared a bed, by the way. And there's nothing wrong
474
00:17:14.940 --> 00:17:17.349
with that. But they weren't short on space. They could
475
00:17:17.369 --> 00:17:19.839
have had separate rooms. Because I went into their flat
476
00:17:19.859 --> 00:17:21.789
because they said, can you come in and we'll show
477
00:17:21.829 --> 00:17:23.349
you how loud it is. So I kind of got
478
00:17:23.390 --> 00:17:25.349
the kids to jump down whilst I was sort.
479
00:17:25.230 --> 00:17:27.349
Of in there. So awkward. They just had like a
480
00:17:27.369 --> 00:17:29.410
bed and they said they kept on moving the bed
481
00:17:29.890 --> 00:17:31.369
to try and sort of keep up with where the
482
00:17:31.390 --> 00:17:32.910
kids are. And I was like, well, don't do that.
483
00:17:33.390 --> 00:17:35.960
You know, they're in one room and out within 30 seconds.
484
00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:37.319
By the time you've moved your bed. Yeah.
485
00:17:37.619 --> 00:17:40.680
They're removing their beds to avoid where the kids are.
486
00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:44.400
This is a two-year-old. It's not like 15-year-olds. You can't
487
00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:46.180
stop a two-year-old. They will run.
488
00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:46.259
No.
489
00:17:46.259 --> 00:17:48.960
And the other thing was that we were like, okay,
490
00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:50.769
obviously they're not at nursery.
491
00:17:51.029 --> 00:17:53.089
There's no childcare. We're trying to work from home as well.
492
00:17:53.130 --> 00:17:53.809
Becca's teaching.
493
00:17:53.890 --> 00:17:56.950
I was writing the second series of intelligence and stuff.
494
00:17:57.190 --> 00:17:58.930
We're doing our best, but we can't do anything else.
495
00:17:58.950 --> 00:18:00.710
We can't take them out. We can't kill them.
496
00:18:00.769 --> 00:18:02.309
We can't get rid of them. Yeah, exactly. You can't
497
00:18:02.329 --> 00:18:03.549
tie them up. We are in this situation.
498
00:18:03.569 --> 00:18:05.529
And we've been forced to stay in by the government.
499
00:18:05.670 --> 00:18:09.230
Yeah, but we'll, you know, we'll obviously outside of first
500
00:18:09.250 --> 00:18:10.890
thing in the morning, we'll stop them from making noise.
501
00:18:10.930 --> 00:18:12.640
And obviously they go to bed at like seven. And,
502
00:18:12.650 --> 00:18:14.630
you know, we didn't like wind down from like five o'clock.
503
00:18:14.650 --> 00:18:15.359
So it shouldn't be mad.
504
00:18:15.380 --> 00:18:16.140
So they're not up late.
505
00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:18.079
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, we weren't having like wild
506
00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:20.180
parties or anything like that. Like, you know, even out
507
00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:22.200
of lockdown, you know, we're just not those kinds of people.
508
00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:23.660
So I don't know, that whole.
509
00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.980
Experience was, that was our kind of parenting how really,
510
00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:28.420
because we were like- How loud.
511
00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.740
Was it when you were in their house? When they
512
00:18:30.779 --> 00:18:33.700
took you down to test, were you like, this is
513
00:18:33.740 --> 00:18:35.440
what I expected.
514
00:18:34.740 --> 00:18:38.759
Or- Well, like, yeah, but I was also like, yeah,
515
00:18:38.819 --> 00:18:39.420
it's loud.
516
00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:42.990
But it's also like... It's not like loud for no reason.
517
00:18:43.029 --> 00:18:44.470
It's not like, oh, no one can put sort of
518
00:18:44.490 --> 00:18:46.720
their sort of like finger on why it's loud.
519
00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:48.400
It's loud because we've got toddlers.
520
00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:50.299
If you don't like it, don't live in a ground
521
00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:50.900
floor flat.
522
00:18:51.180 --> 00:18:51.660
That was it.
523
00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:53.740
They even had on the door, like the outer door
524
00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:55.400
to get into the communal bits and we'd go up
525
00:18:55.420 --> 00:18:57.619
the stairs. They even had written on the door, the
526
00:18:57.660 --> 00:19:01.009
outer door, please close quietly and quietly wasn't like massive.
527
00:19:01.410 --> 00:19:02.589
Oh my God.
528
00:19:02.849 --> 00:19:04.349
And we didn't want to kind of impose it on
529
00:19:04.369 --> 00:19:05.529
the kids. We didn't want to say, oh, you can't
530
00:19:05.569 --> 00:19:08.789
make noise in your own flat, in your own bedroom,
531
00:19:08.990 --> 00:19:09.849
especially in lockdown.
532
00:19:09.890 --> 00:19:13.140
So as I say, the big thing we're very lucky
533
00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:14.940
and we survived lockdown and we you.
534
00:19:14.900 --> 00:19:16.279
Know we're lucky to have a roof over.
535
00:19:16.140 --> 00:19:19.059
Us that's constant as well you when you're trapped in
536
00:19:19.099 --> 00:19:20.599
it's bad enough when you're not locked in but when
537
00:19:20.619 --> 00:19:23.059
you're locked in and they're like yeah they're obviously other
538
00:19:23.099 --> 00:19:24.859
stuff was going in for them it wasn't just about
539
00:19:24.900 --> 00:19:25.799
the kids noise was it.
540
00:19:26.049 --> 00:19:27.910
Oh quite everyone was going through the right thing so
541
00:19:27.930 --> 00:19:29.150
that was you know that was the other thing it
542
00:19:29.190 --> 00:19:30.170
was just like that you.
543
00:19:30.089 --> 00:19:32.049
Should have said to him have you thought about finding
544
00:19:32.150 --> 00:19:36.509
faith this could maybe calm you Find a sense of
545
00:19:36.589 --> 00:19:37.269
a greater.
546
00:19:37.029 --> 00:19:37.769
Purpose in life.
547
00:19:38.190 --> 00:19:39.750
Oh God, can you imagine?
548
00:19:39.930 --> 00:19:41.960
I mean, I was so, because we were in constant,
549
00:19:41.980 --> 00:19:45.039
like quite sort of fraught email exchanges with them and
550
00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:47.450
the other people who were in the flats because everyone,
551
00:19:47.490 --> 00:19:49.009
you know, not that anyone else had complained.
552
00:19:49.029 --> 00:19:50.720
So what level were you on? Was it two?
553
00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:53.589
Okay, so there's a lower ground, which was owned by
554
00:19:53.789 --> 00:19:55.559
lovely Maureen, but who was better in the 90s.
555
00:19:56.190 --> 00:19:58.190
Was about to go in at home right and so
556
00:19:58.230 --> 00:20:00.829
she couldn't hear anything yeah then it was this couple
557
00:20:00.930 --> 00:20:02.910
who were on the ground floor who were complaining and
558
00:20:02.930 --> 00:20:04.569
then we were the floor above them and then there
559
00:20:04.609 --> 00:20:07.230
was a couple like young professional couple above us who
560
00:20:07.269 --> 00:20:09.349
you know who we could hear moving around but we
561
00:20:09.369 --> 00:20:11.529
didn't give a shit like well we're in a flat
562
00:20:11.549 --> 00:20:14.490
of course we had people moving around and actually the
563
00:20:14.539 --> 00:20:18.079
complaining people they they had not actually had their floor
564
00:20:18.099 --> 00:20:20.019
moving done in accordance with the lease because they said
565
00:20:20.059 --> 00:20:22.599
oh well it's not a problem because maureen can't hear.
566
00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:26.960
Oh, bastards. Yeah, she got here because she's 90 and
567
00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:27.920
now she's in her home.
568
00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:33.920
So you were writing Intelligence Series 2 at that point.
569
00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:34.420
Yeah.
570
00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:38.579
Is there points when you're on set with David Schwimmer,
571
00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:41.700
who must be, you know, one of the most successful
572
00:20:41.779 --> 00:20:44.740
people of the last 30 years in television, and you're going,
573
00:20:44.769 --> 00:20:47.670
I'm having a nightmare with these people downstairs.
574
00:20:47.690 --> 00:20:50.569
I don't think I told him about it.
575
00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:54.640
And would he relate to stuff like that? Like, how
576
00:20:54.660 --> 00:20:56.490
does it work when someone's that, like.
577
00:20:56.650 --> 00:20:57.329
Yeah, oh, completely.
578
00:20:57.349 --> 00:20:58.970
He probably can't even see his neighbours, can he?
579
00:21:00.210 --> 00:21:03.930
I mean, first of all, he's a gorgeous, wonderful man.
580
00:21:03.990 --> 00:21:06.869
And there was obviously a time when I was literally, like,
581
00:21:07.329 --> 00:21:10.299
pinching myself, like, oh, my God, this is David Schwimmer.
582
00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:12.910
Like, this is nuts. Like, literally, what is going on?
583
00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:15.000
Reading the lines that you've written.
584
00:21:15.500 --> 00:21:21.769
He is so humble, so lovely, so sort of, gentlemanly
585
00:21:22.109 --> 00:21:24.990
generous like certainly by the time we were doing series
586
00:21:25.029 --> 00:21:27.450
two i mean it is weird if he's literally just
587
00:21:27.509 --> 00:21:29.950
a mate like you know we just text and catch
588
00:21:30.109 --> 00:21:31.869
up when you know he's here or if i've gone
589
00:21:31.890 --> 00:21:33.799
to new york so it is it is odd i
590
00:21:33.819 --> 00:21:35.240
mean when i and i haven't been to new york
591
00:21:35.259 --> 00:21:37.059
many times and i've only been twice but when we
592
00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:39.680
went he literally just took me to a coffee shop
593
00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:41.279
in new york and in my head i'm like is
594
00:21:41.339 --> 00:21:42.200
it central park like.
595
00:21:42.180 --> 00:21:45.920
Is it i think we're like this and that And
596
00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:48.900
of course we still have friends on in the background
597
00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:49.460
on Netflix.
598
00:21:49.500 --> 00:21:51.119
Like we'll still put it on and it's just that
599
00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:53.759
comfort show, isn't it? You know, you can just have
600
00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:55.279
it on and you know, it's pretty suitable for the
601
00:21:55.539 --> 00:21:57.259
kids to watch. I mean, they haven't really sort of
602
00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:00.119
seen much of it, but like all that stuff is
603
00:22:00.420 --> 00:22:03.670
completely surreal, but he is, it's testament to how nice
604
00:22:03.710 --> 00:22:04.009
he is.
605
00:22:04.130 --> 00:22:05.730
Would you talk about friends?
606
00:22:06.250 --> 00:22:06.789
Occasionally.
607
00:22:06.849 --> 00:22:09.410
I mean, there was one bit when the thing is,
608
00:22:09.470 --> 00:22:11.309
if he ever mentioned friends, I almost had like a
609
00:22:11.349 --> 00:22:12.049
panic attack.
610
00:22:12.069 --> 00:22:13.750
Cause I would just sort of remind me of like,
611
00:22:14.349 --> 00:22:17.109
here i still kiss it yeah so you mentioned it
612
00:22:17.250 --> 00:22:20.220
it was like the fact that he'd had that experience
613
00:22:20.259 --> 00:22:23.039
was but i think how.
614
00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:24.619
Best to phrase this like what's so incredible is that
615
00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:27.200
he just he just normalized it and i guess to
616
00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:29.579
a degree when he got in friends he didn't he
617
00:22:29.619 --> 00:22:31.619
didn't know at the point the like the level of
618
00:22:31.900 --> 00:22:34.950
success it was kind of yeah of course gonna become
619
00:22:35.109 --> 00:22:38.180
and not for a second suggesting that Me and him
620
00:22:38.220 --> 00:22:40.569
are on a similar kind of playing field. The success
621
00:22:40.609 --> 00:22:42.670
of Ted Lasso is the same as the success of Friends.
622
00:22:42.950 --> 00:22:44.450
But there was a point when I was kind of
623
00:22:44.490 --> 00:22:46.009
going through the Ted Lasso thing.
624
00:22:46.190 --> 00:22:46.430
Yeah.
625
00:22:46.490 --> 00:22:48.269
And it was getting really big and it was like.
626
00:22:48.289 --> 00:22:50.630
Yeah, because that wasn't expected, was it? I mean, obviously
627
00:22:50.650 --> 00:22:52.670
you hope, but it's not like.
628
00:22:52.769 --> 00:22:56.230
Well, you hope sort of, but also we're so inclined,
629
00:22:56.490 --> 00:22:59.460
I think, as Brits and maybe particularly from, you know,
630
00:22:59.500 --> 00:23:01.940
when you kind of cut your teeth through doing live stuff.
631
00:23:02.220 --> 00:23:04.200
We're so kind of inclined to think, oh, audiences aren't
632
00:23:04.220 --> 00:23:05.880
going to show up. The reviews will be mixed.
633
00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:07.779
Oh, we had a bad night or that didn't work
634
00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.549
or this. You know, Edinburgh, you know, just you just
635
00:23:10.569 --> 00:23:13.529
develop such a thick skin. And to a degree, you're
636
00:23:13.569 --> 00:23:16.109
quite well prepared for when things don't go well. Yeah,
637
00:23:16.130 --> 00:23:18.230
because there is quite a good support network because everyone's
638
00:23:18.269 --> 00:23:18.930
been through it.
639
00:23:18.970 --> 00:23:22.819
Yeah. I'd say it's what's expected. It's rare that something
640
00:23:22.859 --> 00:23:23.259
is a hit.
641
00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.099
It is so expected, and it is so the norm,
642
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:29.980
and certainly within my pits, for sure. And I feel
643
00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:32.660
like no one prepares you for something going well, and
644
00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:34.720
that's right as well, because you should never kind of
645
00:23:34.859 --> 00:23:37.220
aim to do something assuming it's gonna be a hit.
646
00:23:37.539 --> 00:23:39.319
And I think part of the issue was actually, because
647
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:42.039
the first series came out in lockdown, and actually we
648
00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:44.559
were very sheltered from the success of it, A, it
649
00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:46.059
was a bit of a sleeper hit in the UK
650
00:23:46.099 --> 00:23:48.660
because not as many people had Apple TV at the time.
651
00:23:49.059 --> 00:23:50.460
But also, it's not like.
652
00:23:50.339 --> 00:23:52.960
We were then going to the States to do press
653
00:23:53.059 --> 00:23:55.519
or marketing or anything because of lockdown. So there was
654
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:57.920
no travel. So we'd do the occasional thing on Zoom.
655
00:23:58.160 --> 00:23:59.900
So by the time it got to, like, I don't know,
656
00:24:00.140 --> 00:24:02.480
the Emmys, where we kind of went out and we
657
00:24:02.509 --> 00:24:04.809
were all suddenly nominated, we were like, well.
658
00:24:04.869 --> 00:24:07.210
What is going on? And then we realized how big
659
00:24:07.250 --> 00:24:10.450
it was in the States. And we're like, oh, my God.
660
00:24:10.710 --> 00:24:12.269
And so by the time we were doing Season 2.
661
00:24:12.190 --> 00:24:14.880
And I was doing Season 2 of Intelligence, I talked
662
00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:17.890
to David a little bit about that because suddenly we
663
00:24:17.930 --> 00:24:21.250
were doing sort of similar things in terms of suddenly
664
00:24:21.289 --> 00:24:24.650
having like, like just that whole world of like PR
665
00:24:24.670 --> 00:24:27.630
and stuff. I'd never really, really been privy to like before.
666
00:24:28.289 --> 00:24:30.299
I remember I was there for that first one. And
667
00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:32.140
that was the first time I'd ever been to America.
668
00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:33.640
I'd never even been there on holiday.
669
00:24:33.779 --> 00:24:35.619
So I was like an absolute.
670
00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:38.559
Rabbit in a headlight. I hadn't really flown like long
671
00:24:38.579 --> 00:24:41.099
haul in like 15 years or something. So it was just,
672
00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:43.019
So surreal.
673
00:24:43.059 --> 00:24:46.240
And I remember being sat there and from what I understand,
674
00:24:46.269 --> 00:24:48.769
because obviously I've not been to one before or many since,
675
00:24:48.789 --> 00:24:50.569
you know, I've only done when we've gone for Ted Lasso,
676
00:24:50.609 --> 00:24:53.930
like that particular Emmys when it was quite COVID-y still
677
00:24:54.549 --> 00:24:57.390
was very low key. And actually there was no plus ones.
678
00:24:57.450 --> 00:24:59.150
It was all, there was no audience. It was just,
679
00:24:59.230 --> 00:25:01.069
it was very, you know, if you'd been nominated, you
680
00:25:01.089 --> 00:25:03.069
were there and that was sort of it really. And
681
00:25:03.109 --> 00:25:05.990
I remember being sat there with, can you remember Phoebe Walsh?
682
00:25:06.069 --> 00:25:06.450
Can you remember?
683
00:25:06.470 --> 00:25:08.339
Who used to be in the sketch group.
684
00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:10.240
Oyster Eyes, probably when we were up in Edinburgh and
685
00:25:10.259 --> 00:25:14.519
stuff like that. With Tash Demetrio and Phil Dunning. Phoebe
686
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:17.220
has been writing on Ted Lasso for ages. She's brilliant,
687
00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:20.359
a brilliant performer, but also a phenomenal writer. And we
688
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:23.680
were just literally sat there. We kind of couldn't believe
689
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:25.539
it because we were just like, our sort of safe
690
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:28.339
space is like, you know, the Pleasance upstairs, you know,
691
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:31.920
at 5.45. You know, that is our bread and butter.
692
00:25:31.980 --> 00:25:34.150
And it still sort of is. It's kind of ingrained
693
00:25:34.210 --> 00:25:36.109
into us, I think, because we've done it for so long.
694
00:25:36.130 --> 00:25:38.450
But when something kind of hits you out of the
695
00:25:38.470 --> 00:25:40.019
blue like that, you just can't really deal with it.
696
00:25:40.029 --> 00:25:41.670
And we were just sort of like, we just didn't know.
697
00:25:41.690 --> 00:25:43.589
I was so jet lagged as well. But it was
698
00:25:44.049 --> 00:25:46.130
obviously a privilege and phenomenal.
699
00:25:46.450 --> 00:25:49.910
And were you going from there to creeping around your
700
00:25:49.950 --> 00:25:52.029
house when you got home because of the people? Like,
701
00:25:52.049 --> 00:25:53.250
was that the same time?
702
00:25:53.269 --> 00:25:53.430
Yeah.
703
00:25:54.299 --> 00:25:58.029
Yeah yeah we only moved last year so yeah yeah
704
00:25:58.170 --> 00:25:59.190
very much so.
705
00:25:58.990 --> 00:26:01.049
Because you get nominated for two years in a row
706
00:26:01.089 --> 00:26:03.809
was it for best supporting actor yeah in a comedy
707
00:26:03.849 --> 00:26:06.809
so two emmy nominations so have you been twice and.
708
00:26:06.809 --> 00:26:08.670
Or was one at home because of lockdown i've.
709
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:10.440
Been three times now so i didn't get nominated last
710
00:26:10.460 --> 00:26:12.400
year but the show got nominated and so i went
711
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.539
over last year and then yeah two times i was nominated.
712
00:26:15.099 --> 00:26:18.839
So and again such a privilege and an honor.
713
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:20.160
Nick what went wrong last year.
714
00:26:24.180 --> 00:26:28.660
Why do you stop oh maybe the neighbors were driving.
715
00:26:28.220 --> 00:26:30.740
You in those years yeah i hate campaign can you
716
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.099
imagine i'd love it and not that it should have
717
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:35.970
made any difference to kind of that situation but i
718
00:26:36.029 --> 00:26:38.509
wonder if they'd ever seen anything i was in i
719
00:26:38.529 --> 00:26:40.430
don't think they have yeah that's interesting i quite like
720
00:26:40.470 --> 00:26:42.589
the idea i'd love the idea of them listening to
721
00:26:42.630 --> 00:26:45.970
this can you imagine oh they're great Also, you pop
722
00:26:46.009 --> 00:26:47.089
up in so many things.
723
00:26:47.109 --> 00:26:48.950
Did they ask what you did? Because you knew what
724
00:26:48.970 --> 00:26:50.690
they did. Did they ask what you did?
725
00:26:51.269 --> 00:26:53.569
No, they didn't. No. No, they didn't.
726
00:26:53.630 --> 00:26:57.119
And they never implied that they sort of, you know,
727
00:26:57.130 --> 00:26:58.799
knew that I worked in entertainment or anything like that.
728
00:26:58.819 --> 00:26:59.640
So I don't know.
729
00:26:59.660 --> 00:27:02.319
You walk in a very quiet way on Ted Lasso,
730
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:04.839
don't you? Could you bring that to the house? You're
731
00:27:04.859 --> 00:27:06.839
not stomping around the stage at the Emmys.
732
00:27:06.859 --> 00:27:09.339
Your kids aren't in Ted Lasso.
733
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:10.779
They'll be there for me at home.
734
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:13.880
But also, the sort of triple whammy of it all.
735
00:27:14.259 --> 00:27:16.119
Was also that we were living in Richmond and you know,
736
00:27:16.140 --> 00:27:18.900
we'd moved to Richmond in 2014, way before Ted Lasso.
737
00:27:19.220 --> 00:27:22.359
And then also now, and even now after the show
738
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.779
has finished, you know, the after effect of like Richmond,
739
00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:27.619
you know, you still see sort of tourists there kind
740
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:29.380
of wanting to kind of like see a lot of
741
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:30.539
those locations.
742
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:32.660
Yeah. But when we were living there and especially when
743
00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:34.970
it was still filming, it was mad because I'd go
744
00:27:35.009 --> 00:27:35.410
for like.
745
00:27:36.089 --> 00:27:38.279
Just, Yeah, the supermarket where you kind of go for
746
00:27:38.299 --> 00:27:40.089
a jog or something. And it looked like I was
747
00:27:40.109 --> 00:27:42.029
sort of doing it deliberately, but it was like, oh, no, no, no,
748
00:27:42.029 --> 00:27:42.670
just live here.
749
00:27:42.710 --> 00:27:45.849
But it was, yeah. Just hanging around. Yeah, just hanging around.
750
00:27:45.869 --> 00:27:48.490
Steve Coogan just wandering around Norwich.
751
00:27:48.549 --> 00:27:49.950
Quite, yeah, exactly, yeah.
752
00:27:50.109 --> 00:27:52.210
On that, and I'd be interested in your take on
753
00:27:52.250 --> 00:27:56.529
this as well, Rob. So do you, and we'd say
754
00:27:56.569 --> 00:27:59.529
something like Ted Lasso, and you don't know... If you're
755
00:27:59.549 --> 00:28:02.799
in something big, and so Rob, say, Rob and Romesh
756
00:28:02.859 --> 00:28:04.720
or me with the last leg or whatever.
757
00:28:04.819 --> 00:28:06.700
Yeah, not that they're as big as Ted Lasso, though.
758
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:08.240
Not that they're as big as Ted Lasso, but what
759
00:28:08.420 --> 00:28:08.880
I mean is.
760
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.140
Well, I think they probably are over here, though, right?
761
00:28:11.180 --> 00:28:13.089
Because Ted Lasso is sort of still.
762
00:28:13.569 --> 00:28:15.230
People have seen it over here, and it's still a
763
00:28:15.250 --> 00:28:17.269
bit of a sleeper here. I wouldn't say it's got, like...
764
00:28:17.650 --> 00:28:18.150
I would say.
765
00:28:18.049 --> 00:28:19.109
More people would have seen.
766
00:28:19.509 --> 00:28:23.210
Well, we'll all go out together, Nick, and we'll get
767
00:28:23.230 --> 00:28:25.730
a survey. But what I wanted to ask was with
768
00:28:25.779 --> 00:28:30.789
David Schwimmer. So I would still... default that i presume
769
00:28:30.849 --> 00:28:34.150
people don't know what i do so i'd say if
770
00:28:34.190 --> 00:28:36.769
someone said what are you up to tonight yeah if
771
00:28:36.809 --> 00:28:39.089
it was a stranger i wouldn't say i'm doing the
772
00:28:39.130 --> 00:28:41.170
last leg i'd say i'm doing a show i do
773
00:28:41.210 --> 00:28:44.160
for channel four completely yeah would you do the same rob.
774
00:28:44.410 --> 00:28:46.630
Yeah, no, if someone's got like no idea, I'd just
775
00:28:46.650 --> 00:28:48.210
be like, oh, I'm just working or whatever.
776
00:28:48.250 --> 00:28:50.210
But yeah, for David Schwimmer, I imagine.
777
00:28:50.269 --> 00:28:53.509
Yeah, and I'd still say, hi, I'm Josh. Whereas would
778
00:28:53.569 --> 00:28:57.789
David Schwimmer say, hi, I'm David? And would he say,
779
00:28:58.170 --> 00:28:59.109
I was in this show?
780
00:28:59.170 --> 00:28:59.750
Absolutely.
781
00:28:59.769 --> 00:29:01.170
Yeah, before people say Ross.
782
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:05.359
I think he would. There was a really great moment
783
00:29:05.380 --> 00:29:08.029
when I remember we did the first, it wasn't even.
784
00:29:07.950 --> 00:29:11.109
The official read-through of the first series of Intelligence, but
785
00:29:11.150 --> 00:29:14.289
we were doing a workshop he won. I'd only written
786
00:29:14.309 --> 00:29:17.529
three episodes at the time, but I remember John Montague,
787
00:29:18.150 --> 00:29:21.900
lovely commissioner at Sky, now Netflix, John Montague, who commissioned
788
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:25.099
the show with Moena, he was at the read-through. It's
789
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.480
relatively informal. And afterwards he went up to David and
790
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:31.829
they sort of like were like chatting. And then John
791
00:29:31.890 --> 00:29:34.069
said really po-face and like credit to him, he said,
792
00:29:34.289 --> 00:29:36.329
so have you done like much sort of like sitcom
793
00:29:36.349 --> 00:29:39.529
stuff before then? And David, I think did genuinely have
794
00:29:39.589 --> 00:29:41.680
a moment of like oh maybe maybe.
795
00:29:41.420 --> 00:29:44.339
He doesn't he doesn't know but obviously then John was
796
00:29:44.380 --> 00:29:46.640
like oh no no no obviously obviously but no I
797
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:49.150
don't think anyone and Jason's because it's the same you
798
00:29:49.170 --> 00:29:53.589
know they're so gentlemanly humble kind generous that he would
799
00:29:53.630 --> 00:29:59.390
never presume and they were always just kind and unassuming.
800
00:29:58.869 --> 00:29:59.309
I think.
801
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:04.799
Filming Ted Lasso in Richmond there must have been a
802
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:06.980
right touch because the worst part of being an actor
803
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.460
and you have your touring show as well Mr Swallow
804
00:30:09.740 --> 00:30:12.680
is being away from home and location Richmond like you've
805
00:30:12.700 --> 00:30:14.029
got to be there at 9am you can leave your
806
00:30:14.049 --> 00:30:16.269
house about half eight 20 to nine and just wander
807
00:30:16.289 --> 00:30:18.890
down and still be present as a dad.
808
00:30:18.829 --> 00:30:20.529
Oh god yeah I mean and that that you know
809
00:30:20.569 --> 00:30:21.230
that look that.
810
00:30:21.349 --> 00:30:25.009
Is still really tough and credit to Becca I cannot
811
00:30:25.529 --> 00:30:27.799
praise her you know I mean she is Phenomenal.
812
00:30:27.859 --> 00:30:29.720
You know she's listening. You know she's listening.
813
00:30:29.740 --> 00:30:31.869
Well, I know she's listening, but also it's not just
814
00:30:31.910 --> 00:30:35.049
the fact that she is a phenomenal human, like literally
815
00:30:35.069 --> 00:30:39.230
a superhuman, incredible mum and wife, but she is, it's
816
00:30:39.269 --> 00:30:41.650
just this ability to sort of deal with, because in this,
817
00:30:42.299 --> 00:30:44.359
you know industry it can be you know the levels
818
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:46.519
of predictability i guess when you're on a job and
819
00:30:46.539 --> 00:30:48.849
you kind of know sort of short term roughly what
820
00:30:48.869 --> 00:30:50.549
your hours will be or where it's shooting and stuff
821
00:30:50.569 --> 00:30:52.390
like that but there is also a huge element of
822
00:30:52.450 --> 00:30:56.029
unpredictability and that's no one's fault but the choice of
823
00:30:56.069 --> 00:30:58.269
me to be in this you know in industry and
824
00:30:58.289 --> 00:31:01.319
the way sort of she deals with it and allows
825
00:31:01.380 --> 00:31:04.119
the kids to sort of see the positives of it
826
00:31:04.180 --> 00:31:06.339
and and you know because it can affect the kids
827
00:31:06.380 --> 00:31:08.099
you know if i'm away and you know particularly if
828
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:12.190
i'm not there for Bedtime, and I have been relatively
829
00:31:12.210 --> 00:31:14.349
lucky in that a lot of the stuff I've done,
830
00:31:14.710 --> 00:31:17.750
it was a real one-off in that regard, something to
831
00:31:17.789 --> 00:31:18.730
shoot so close to home.
832
00:31:18.769 --> 00:31:21.170
But even Intelligence was filmed at Twickenham Studios, which is
833
00:31:21.190 --> 00:31:23.880
like 10 minutes away from Richmond.
834
00:31:24.450 --> 00:31:27.700
So that was a blessing. But I filmed a little
835
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.539
bit in the States and a little bit recently in Germany,
836
00:31:30.660 --> 00:31:33.880
but mostly it's been in London. But even so, the
837
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:36.819
hours can be manic, and Becca's still having to do.
838
00:31:36.819 --> 00:31:43.029
99.99999% of like the parenting and childcare. And then occasionally
839
00:31:43.049 --> 00:31:46.150
I'll show up just as they're about to be settled
840
00:31:46.170 --> 00:31:47.750
and probably on the cusp. And then I wind them
841
00:31:47.809 --> 00:31:49.390
up something right. I don't want to sort of just
842
00:31:49.410 --> 00:31:50.769
sort of pick around.
843
00:31:50.930 --> 00:31:53.079
How does bedtime with three work?
844
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:55.839
We've made such a rod for our own back.
845
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:58.220
I think when Becca was first pregnant, we were like,
846
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.099
we had friends of ours, who had had, I think
847
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:02.039
if they'd had their baby, they.
848
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.019
Must have, they'd had their baby and they were.
849
00:32:03.940 --> 00:32:06.079
Doing, and you know, not to cast any judgment on
850
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:08.480
how people do the whole sort of sleep thing, sleep
851
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:10.240
training thing, but they had like read, I think this
852
00:32:10.309 --> 00:32:12.609
is the Gina Ford book where it's quite regimented and
853
00:32:12.650 --> 00:32:15.150
routined and you know, but they were like, they swore
854
00:32:15.170 --> 00:32:17.029
by it because they said, yeah, it's sort of hell
855
00:32:17.049 --> 00:32:18.930
for like a week, but then actually, you know, the
856
00:32:18.950 --> 00:32:20.490
baby gets used to it and then you get full
857
00:32:20.509 --> 00:32:22.930
night's sleep and then you're better as a parent and
858
00:32:22.950 --> 00:32:23.329
stuff like that.
859
00:32:23.609 --> 00:32:25.630
We have never managed it. Like we once tried to
860
00:32:25.650 --> 00:32:27.119
do like a cry it out thing.
861
00:32:27.140 --> 00:32:29.329
And I think we lasted like 45 seconds. We're like, wow,
862
00:32:29.369 --> 00:32:31.329
this is no, no, we can't. But we have gone
863
00:32:31.529 --> 00:32:33.029
so far the other way. Especially those neighbours.
864
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:38.069
Even Maureen will complain about that one.
865
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:39.920
We found it so funny, the idea of Becca.
866
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:41.869
I mean, she was, pregnant when we were still in
867
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:44.049
the flat but not sort of showing and we like
868
00:32:44.069 --> 00:32:46.250
the idea of being heavily pregnant and just keep on
869
00:32:46.289 --> 00:32:48.470
walking past them so that they notice and then just
870
00:32:48.490 --> 00:32:50.359
thinking them knowing there's going to be a newborn in
871
00:32:50.380 --> 00:32:53.140
the flat as well as everything else that didn't happen
872
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:57.240
because we moved before them but now it's like I
873
00:32:57.289 --> 00:32:59.369
mean we're slightly in denial of the fact that like
874
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:01.740
we sort of still think that they should all be
875
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.079
going to sleep at seven, but obviously that's just not,
876
00:33:04.140 --> 00:33:05.880
I mean, like Finn's eight and a half, like there's
877
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:08.119
no way he's going to bed at seven, but sometimes
878
00:33:08.140 --> 00:33:10.369
they're like knackered and we like think, oh, well they
879
00:33:10.390 --> 00:33:12.410
should maybe just at least be sort of reading or
880
00:33:12.430 --> 00:33:14.170
doing some quiet from seven. So we'll try and sort
881
00:33:14.230 --> 00:33:17.630
of start at seven bath time. I mean, like, it's just,
882
00:33:18.099 --> 00:33:21.559
there's family bathroom. It's not like massive shower bath. And
883
00:33:21.579 --> 00:33:22.299
then there's a toilet.
884
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.200
All three of those are in use, like guaranteed.
885
00:33:25.259 --> 00:33:27.599
So one of them's in the shower and he's in
886
00:33:27.619 --> 00:33:29.559
the little baby back, which we're sort of like leaning over.
887
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:31.569
And then literally right next to it, usually Finn is
888
00:33:31.589 --> 00:33:33.730
doing a big poo, like the biggest poo, because he's
889
00:33:33.769 --> 00:33:36.630
not pooed all day. And we're just, sometimes we're just like, oh, Finn,
890
00:33:36.730 --> 00:33:40.009
I mean, could you even just use like the downstairs loo? No,
891
00:33:40.029 --> 00:33:42.029
they don't want to be on a different level. So
892
00:33:42.049 --> 00:33:45.220
there's a cacophony of smell. Well, we're just constantly trying
893
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:45.700
to flush the.
894
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:45.980
Loo with you.
895
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.059
Trying to get clean and dirty at the same time.
896
00:33:48.299 --> 00:33:49.019
Oh, that's the thing.
897
00:33:49.059 --> 00:33:50.769
And then one of them's brushing their teeth whilst wiping
898
00:33:50.789 --> 00:33:53.390
their bum. And then it's like, oh, for heaven's sake. No,
899
00:33:53.450 --> 00:33:55.410
just let's. I have a little bit of personal space.
900
00:33:55.430 --> 00:34:01.089
So, and then Becca's still breastfeeding Annie. So, and you know, again,
901
00:34:01.130 --> 00:34:02.410
we probably made a rub for our own back. So
902
00:34:02.730 --> 00:34:06.170
often Annie will fall asleep whilst breastfeeding. And so I'm
903
00:34:06.269 --> 00:34:09.309
usually in with Finn and Arthur and we'll do, they'll
904
00:34:09.329 --> 00:34:11.280
read a book that they've usually been given from school
905
00:34:11.300 --> 00:34:13.280
that they've got to read. Then they usually listen to
906
00:34:13.300 --> 00:34:15.179
like a mighty audio thing. I don't know if you've got,
907
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.840
you know, the Yoto player, it's like a, and there's
908
00:34:17.860 --> 00:34:19.679
like a daily podcast with a ton of kids that
909
00:34:19.699 --> 00:34:21.420
they'll like listen to, which lasts 10 minutes.
910
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:22.719
So what would happen on that?
911
00:34:23.260 --> 00:34:26.679
On a kid's podcast oh it's quite good actually sometimes
912
00:34:26.739 --> 00:34:29.000
it's just like sort of facts about like the day
913
00:34:29.059 --> 00:34:31.260
like you know who was born this day something about
914
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:32.480
what this day represent you know.
915
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:33.460
Or something that's been in the.
916
00:34:33.420 --> 00:34:37.429
News or they'll do like birthday shout outs but some
917
00:34:37.469 --> 00:34:40.050
of them can be quite like and now you're going
918
00:34:40.070 --> 00:34:41.750
to run around the house and try and find sort
919
00:34:41.769 --> 00:34:43.650
of something beginning with every letter of the alphabet and
920
00:34:43.690 --> 00:34:47.309
that's like oh no that's not confusing to anyone falling
921
00:34:47.329 --> 00:34:50.329
asleep like literally annie's like waking up and so we
922
00:34:50.349 --> 00:34:53.030
do do that and then and then we have got into.
923
00:34:52.929 --> 00:34:55.269
A habit just one of us will just lay.
924
00:34:55.030 --> 00:34:57.489
In that room yeah with them between their beds until
925
00:34:57.510 --> 00:34:59.840
they're asleep because it's just what they used to i
926
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.090
mean finn blessed him used to hold my hand until
927
00:35:02.110 --> 00:35:04.519
he fell asleep and then he's probably about four it
928
00:35:04.539 --> 00:35:07.059
can be frustrating obviously because you know it's getting to
929
00:35:07.099 --> 00:35:09.900
like nine half nine you haven't eaten the house is
930
00:35:09.940 --> 00:35:12.500
a tit got emails i mean i can do emails
931
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:13.440
and stuff like that but that.
932
00:35:13.300 --> 00:35:16.679
Makes me feel so much better Because that's what I'm
933
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:17.460
doing at the moment.
934
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:19.539
Yeah, and Rose is away, so you've got the little
935
00:35:19.619 --> 00:35:22.090
one in one room, you've got the older one in
936
00:35:22.150 --> 00:35:22.449
another room.
937
00:35:22.469 --> 00:35:26.050
Well, we've got this situation at the moment where my son,
938
00:35:26.730 --> 00:35:29.630
my daughter's moved onto the cabin bed that she's just got,
939
00:35:29.989 --> 00:35:32.519
but her old bed is in her room, that my
940
00:35:32.619 --> 00:35:35.559
son sometimes... Is it still in there? Yeah, because he
941
00:35:35.619 --> 00:35:37.460
likes to sleep on it in her room now.
942
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:38.440
Right, okay.
943
00:35:38.989 --> 00:35:42.170
But then some days he won't. And then we've just
944
00:35:42.190 --> 00:35:43.690
spent half an hour trying to get to sleep here
945
00:35:43.710 --> 00:35:46.150
and we've got to start again in your room. Oh, God.
946
00:35:46.250 --> 00:35:48.179
I mean, I think, to be fair, Finn is probably
947
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.829
going to... have to kind of like move, you know, upstairs.
948
00:35:50.849 --> 00:35:52.389
I've got an office upstairs, but I think he's probably
949
00:35:52.409 --> 00:35:54.190
just going to move into that as his bedroom and just,
950
00:35:54.250 --> 00:35:54.969
I think so, yeah.
951
00:35:54.989 --> 00:35:56.590
I don't think he'll stay there. Like, do you know
952
00:35:56.610 --> 00:35:58.170
what I mean? I think we'll do it. We'll move
953
00:35:58.230 --> 00:35:59.409
all the stuff and then he'll just want to be
954
00:35:59.449 --> 00:36:00.719
back downstairs with Arthur again.
955
00:36:01.139 --> 00:36:01.420
Yeah.
956
00:36:01.500 --> 00:36:02.300
How did they find the move?
957
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:04.000
Because obviously he was in quite a small flat and
958
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:05.599
now you're in sort of a much more of a
959
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:07.760
family home. Were they still a bit at night, a
960
00:36:07.780 --> 00:36:09.679
bit scared about it being bigger and going?
961
00:36:09.699 --> 00:36:12.949
Sort of, But anxious, certainly like they never wanted to
962
00:36:12.989 --> 00:36:15.710
be on a different level to us. Like, you know,
963
00:36:15.789 --> 00:36:18.090
as in they're not, there's like multiple levels. They don't
964
00:36:18.150 --> 00:36:19.929
always want to be downstairs with us or upstairs.
965
00:36:19.969 --> 00:36:20.650
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
966
00:36:20.710 --> 00:36:22.670
So again, it's like a little thing because they'd never
967
00:36:22.730 --> 00:36:25.929
had like stairs in their own house before or anything.
968
00:36:25.949 --> 00:36:27.630
So they were kind of like, I don't know, they
969
00:36:27.650 --> 00:36:29.550
find the stairs like a barrier in a way.
970
00:36:29.610 --> 00:36:33.110
They kind of, I mean, they can walk upstairs.
971
00:36:33.510 --> 00:36:37.130
But they will very, very, very rarely be up in
972
00:36:37.150 --> 00:36:38.550
their room if we're downstairs.
973
00:36:38.590 --> 00:36:39.989
They just want to be on the same level as us.
974
00:36:40.289 --> 00:36:42.070
And that's part of the problem is like where we
975
00:36:42.110 --> 00:36:44.130
want to kind of like come down and like cook
976
00:36:44.170 --> 00:36:46.429
or something like that. They'll then sort of potter down
977
00:36:46.469 --> 00:36:47.949
and like kind of like, you know, try and sort
978
00:36:47.969 --> 00:36:50.280
of like be downstairs with us. And like literally one
979
00:36:50.340 --> 00:36:52.860
night they just came and we're like, oh, they can
980
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:54.460
just watch telly with it. We were just watching like
981
00:36:54.579 --> 00:36:56.380
MasterChef or something like that. We're like, just watch it.
982
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:58.659
It's absolutely fine. It might be like half 10, but
983
00:36:58.679 --> 00:36:59.559
just watch it. Yeah.
984
00:36:59.579 --> 00:37:01.900
Stuff they pretend to like to get out of bedtime.
985
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:04.139
Yeah. Dragon's Den. Yeah.
986
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:06.340
I was watching Brighton play Brentford. I was like, I
987
00:37:06.340 --> 00:37:09.570
don't even give a shit about this game. You dare
988
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:10.619
pretend you care.
989
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:14.880
Actually, they're quite into football because I'm not really, but
990
00:37:14.900 --> 00:37:16.219
they're increasingly into football.
991
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:17.900
Did they watch Ted Lasso?
992
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:19.320
No, not really.
993
00:37:19.340 --> 00:37:22.039
I mean, you know, they're aware of it and aware
994
00:37:22.059 --> 00:37:25.599
of roughly what it's about, but no, they've never seen
995
00:37:25.659 --> 00:37:26.000
any of it.
996
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:27.289
A bit grown up for them, isn't it?
997
00:37:27.300 --> 00:37:29.300
Yeah, a tiny bit grown up. But then I'm always
998
00:37:29.500 --> 00:37:30.780
like surprised.
999
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.059
Like occasionally, you know, I guess kids who are like
1000
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.460
maybe 10 or 11 have seen it. And I think
1001
00:37:36.579 --> 00:37:39.219
partly because of the football maybe in it. But actually
1002
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.260
it was their sports day a week ago and they
1003
00:37:42.300 --> 00:37:45.010
do like the parents race, which is literally sort of
1004
00:37:45.050 --> 00:37:50.510
the worst sort of minute of my year. It's always
1005
00:37:50.550 --> 00:37:54.130
just intimidating being the small guy and all these guys.
1006
00:37:54.650 --> 00:37:56.550
I did do it. Yeah, I do it because Finn
1007
00:37:56.570 --> 00:37:57.440
made me do it.
1008
00:37:57.460 --> 00:37:58.030
How did it get on?
1009
00:37:58.619 --> 00:38:00.710
I think I came like third out of five, but
1010
00:38:00.809 --> 00:38:01.969
one of them fell over.
1011
00:38:02.250 --> 00:38:02.889
Oh, that's all right.
1012
00:38:02.949 --> 00:38:03.329
Solid.
1013
00:38:03.409 --> 00:38:03.989
That's all right.
1014
00:38:04.030 --> 00:38:05.570
Yeah. I think that's last, isn't it?
1015
00:38:05.869 --> 00:38:07.030
No, third out of five.
1016
00:38:07.389 --> 00:38:07.670
Fourth.
1017
00:38:08.269 --> 00:38:08.630
Oh, yeah.
1018
00:38:08.650 --> 00:38:08.889
Okay.
1019
00:38:08.909 --> 00:38:09.829
Yeah. But third out of four.
1020
00:38:09.849 --> 00:38:10.010
Yeah.
1021
00:38:10.090 --> 00:38:10.449
Okay. Yeah.
1022
00:38:10.469 --> 00:38:11.250
Fair enough.
1023
00:38:11.769 --> 00:38:13.750
And we were sort of waiting to sort of start.
1024
00:38:14.269 --> 00:38:17.860
And one of the older kids at the school was like, oh,
1025
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:18.360
you'll be fine.
1026
00:38:18.380 --> 00:38:22.420
You're a football coach. And I'm like, fictional, fictional football coach.
1027
00:38:22.460 --> 00:38:23.840
You're more of a swimmer, actually.
1028
00:38:25.780 --> 00:38:28.019
And also, football coaches aren't traditionally the most sort of
1029
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:29.739
It's not like they're the ones who are on the field,
1030
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:29.980
are they?
1031
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.030
They've all got massive bellies, haven't they, the coaches? You
1032
00:38:32.050 --> 00:38:33.570
see them on the touchline and I feel sorry for
1033
00:38:33.590 --> 00:38:35.710
them because they have to wear all the clingy clothes.
1034
00:38:36.110 --> 00:38:37.769
And they're stood next to Jude Bellingham, which is like
1035
00:38:37.829 --> 00:38:41.110
an absolute athlete in his prime condition. And there's just
1036
00:38:41.170 --> 00:38:43.449
a bloke who's 47 like, oh, fucking hell, I've got
1037
00:38:43.469 --> 00:38:45.409
to put this little clingy lacquer on top of him.
1038
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:48.579
How are you going to deal, if they're really into
1039
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:50.239
football and you're not into it, do you think you
1040
00:38:50.260 --> 00:38:51.420
can get yourself into it?
1041
00:38:52.010 --> 00:38:54.030
I feel like I'm into it like a little bit
1042
00:38:54.050 --> 00:38:56.010
because of Ted Lasso. Like, I feel like I've got
1043
00:38:56.030 --> 00:38:56.909
far more of an.
1044
00:38:56.849 --> 00:38:58.949
Appreciation for it because of Ted Lasso, weirdly.
1045
00:38:59.380 --> 00:39:01.679
Not that I will now actively sit down and watch,
1046
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.019
but I definitely like when England play, I'd watch it.
1047
00:39:04.059 --> 00:39:07.239
See, Rob, people can enjoy England playing. Not just me.
1048
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:09.179
You don't have to be all angry about it.
1049
00:39:09.179 --> 00:39:10.960
No, but you can be annoyed with the tactics.
1050
00:39:11.219 --> 00:39:13.179
But I do think that when you see your kids play,
1051
00:39:13.219 --> 00:39:15.079
it's more fun because you're watching your kids play. And
1052
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:16.940
if they're... enjoying it it's just fun to see them
1053
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:19.380
enjoy whether it's whatever sport they do you know oh.
1054
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.989
Yeah completely yeah they do ballet on saturdays which they
1055
00:39:23.489 --> 00:39:25.409
they love and have done it since they were like.
1056
00:39:25.630 --> 00:39:28.360
Three actually And again, like good at it because they've
1057
00:39:28.380 --> 00:39:29.239
done it for so long.
1058
00:39:29.260 --> 00:39:31.239
Was that in an attempt to get them to walk lightly?
1059
00:39:31.699 --> 00:39:33.739
Well, in a way, it was sort of like something
1060
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:35.480
that we could throw back at them and say, I mean,
1061
00:39:35.500 --> 00:39:36.280
they do do ballet.
1062
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:41.340
I remember last year as part of a publicity thing,
1063
00:39:41.809 --> 00:39:44.269
Apple sent me to see a West Ham game because
1064
00:39:44.309 --> 00:39:46.639
I was in the final season of the coach at
1065
00:39:46.659 --> 00:39:48.980
West Ham. It was really odd because I'd not been
1066
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:50.940
to a football match since I was like a kid
1067
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:52.559
and like my dad had sort of taken me to
1068
00:39:52.579 --> 00:39:56.389
like Ellen Road when I really desperately didn't like football
1069
00:39:56.409 --> 00:40:00.030
because I associated it with the kind of trendy, sporty
1070
00:40:00.170 --> 00:40:02.860
kids at school who were effectively also the bullies.
1071
00:40:02.929 --> 00:40:03.070
Yeah.
1072
00:40:03.300 --> 00:40:05.460
And I wasn't that crowd sort of like, you know,
1073
00:40:05.579 --> 00:40:07.840
playing around with a deck of cards and stuff, doing
1074
00:40:07.860 --> 00:40:11.099
magic tricks. You didn't think I was funny?
1075
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:14.360
You weren't a jock at school, no?
1076
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:15.739
Why are you wearing a baseball cap?
1077
00:40:16.059 --> 00:40:17.110
Oh, now I'm a jock.
1078
00:40:17.139 --> 00:40:18.789
Yeah, you look great. You've got a lovely little set
1079
00:40:18.809 --> 00:40:20.449
of guns on you there, Niffy, looks like. You've been
1080
00:40:20.469 --> 00:40:23.590
working out. there look at that that's not bad come
1081
00:40:23.630 --> 00:40:25.349
on Nick lovely frame on you.
1082
00:40:25.269 --> 00:40:27.150
It's literally just sort of like lifting and it you
1083
00:40:27.190 --> 00:40:28.530
know it's just sort of trying to do all this
1084
00:40:28.550 --> 00:40:30.139
stuff and you kind of realise that.
1085
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:31.920
It's sort of counted exercise, I guess.
1086
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.360
It's probably the bad kind, though, because I'll probably get repressive,
1087
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:36.000
you know, what's it?
1088
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:37.820
Because it's always the same kind of move.
1089
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:39.610
Stop it. Take the compliment. You're looking great, Nick.
1090
00:40:40.030 --> 00:40:41.489
You're very kind, as are both of you.
1091
00:40:41.829 --> 00:40:44.090
Anyway, I went to that football match. It kind of
1092
00:40:44.170 --> 00:40:47.050
brought loads of flashbacks back to being at school and
1093
00:40:47.110 --> 00:40:50.820
not really knowing my place. And I was sad because
1094
00:40:50.860 --> 00:40:51.340
West Ham.
1095
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.190
Had gone all out. because, you know, it's a bit
1096
00:40:54.210 --> 00:40:55.630
of a publicity thing for them.
1097
00:40:55.670 --> 00:40:57.230
And so I sat in, I don't know, but I
1098
00:40:57.230 --> 00:40:59.309
sat in a nice bit, not a box, but it was,
1099
00:40:59.349 --> 00:41:01.210
I think, the people who have got, what are they
1100
00:41:01.230 --> 00:41:02.969
called when you've got a yearly ticket?
1101
00:41:02.989 --> 00:41:03.889
Season pass.
1102
00:41:04.010 --> 00:41:04.769
Season ticket.
1103
00:41:04.789 --> 00:41:05.489
Season ticket, sorry.
1104
00:41:05.530 --> 00:41:06.530
Season pass.
1105
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:07.860
I don't know, I know.
1106
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.440
Subscription to West Ham.
1107
00:41:09.539 --> 00:41:12.019
And this guy came and sat next to me after
1108
00:41:12.059 --> 00:41:15.179
about 10 minutes of the game sort of starting. And
1109
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.679
he was like, oh, right, right, what's been happening? And
1110
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:20.260
I had no idea. Oh, God.
1111
00:41:21.059 --> 00:41:23.119
And I had to sort of like, like literally sort
1112
00:41:23.139 --> 00:41:24.360
of like going through my sort of 10 lines, I
1113
00:41:24.380 --> 00:41:26.880
just go like, well, what's the sort of think of tactics,
1114
00:41:26.980 --> 00:41:29.820
think of anything and just sort of say Declan Rice.
1115
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.409
But then I really did, I don't know if West
1116
00:41:32.429 --> 00:41:35.630
Ham won that day, but like it was, it was just.
1117
00:41:35.550 --> 00:41:37.869
Quite like, oh, I can see how people really like this.
1118
00:41:38.110 --> 00:41:40.530
I can see how people, and I think at first
1119
00:41:40.650 --> 00:41:43.059
just occasionally, and maybe there's part of me that still
1120
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.659
sometimes believes this. I used to think, you know what?
1121
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:48.780
I was going to say, I actually don't think I
1122
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:50.300
think this now. I definitely thought this as a kid.
1123
00:41:50.739 --> 00:41:53.679
I didn't think that the benefits of football outweighed the
1124
00:41:53.699 --> 00:41:57.260
negatives in terms of, you know, racism, the sort of
1125
00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:59.860
the hierarchy, the massive fees that, you know, the kind
1126
00:41:59.909 --> 00:42:00.730
of tribalism, you.
1127
00:42:00.670 --> 00:42:03.550
Know, that, you know, all that hooliganism, all of that
1128
00:42:03.590 --> 00:42:06.449
I sort of conflated with. But is it really that good? Like,
1129
00:42:06.489 --> 00:42:08.739
is it really worth it? And now I'm a bit old,
1130
00:42:08.769 --> 00:42:11.750
but now I kind of dissociated with that, I think. Actually, no,
1131
00:42:11.789 --> 00:42:14.050
it's brilliant. And I can see how people love it.
1132
00:42:14.090 --> 00:42:15.860
Now you've been nominated for an Emmy twice for a
1133
00:42:15.860 --> 00:42:18.500
football-based comedy drama. You can see the.
1134
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:20.119
That's all it took.
1135
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:22.900
Let's talk about Douglas' Cancelled.
1136
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:23.539
Oh, yes.
1137
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:26.500
You play a comedy writer. I saw a picture of you.
1138
00:42:26.619 --> 00:42:28.039
I was reading an article about it.
1139
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:28.599
Yeah.
1140
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:32.710
And the outfit they've put you in is fucking perfect
1141
00:42:32.809 --> 00:42:35.610
for like you just look yeah yeah you look like
1142
00:42:35.650 --> 00:42:37.030
a comedy writer.
1143
00:42:36.630 --> 00:42:38.269
They give me glasses as well they give me like
1144
00:42:38.309 --> 00:42:39.710
kind of slightly comedy glasses.
1145
00:42:39.829 --> 00:42:41.949
Oh you do yeah i've just seen the promo they
1146
00:42:41.989 --> 00:42:42.409
put me in.
1147
00:42:42.369 --> 00:42:44.750
Quite sort of retro clothes i.
1148
00:42:44.690 --> 00:42:47.940
Think yeah yeah just slightly faded monster munch top or
1149
00:42:47.980 --> 00:42:50.539
something yeah jeans have got a wallet mark in it
1150
00:42:50.579 --> 00:42:53.360
when it's been worn there you go.
1151
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:56.219
So tell us the premise for douglas is cancelled which
1152
00:42:56.260 --> 00:42:58.619
is kind of you know, does what it says on
1153
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:00.659
the tin in a, it's a good title in that sense.
1154
00:43:00.929 --> 00:43:03.829
Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, it's, it's, it's really fun.
1155
00:43:03.849 --> 00:43:04.909
I mean, like, so I didn't know this.
1156
00:43:04.929 --> 00:43:06.610
I only found this out of the pressing that we
1157
00:43:06.630 --> 00:43:08.250
did for it last week, but apparently it was written
1158
00:43:08.289 --> 00:43:11.050
as a play. So Stephen Moffat of Sherlock and Doctor
1159
00:43:11.090 --> 00:43:13.389
Who fame, genius, genius writer.
1160
00:43:13.449 --> 00:43:14.219
And Gogglebox.
1161
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:16.320
And Gogglebox and all that.
1162
00:43:16.340 --> 00:43:21.760
Sorry, that's Scarlet Moffat. They're different, yeah? Different guys.
1163
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:23.860
It wouldn't be if Gogglebox was actually scripted comedy. I'd
1164
00:43:23.900 --> 00:43:24.360
love that.
1165
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:26.760
Oh God, it'd be a tough one to write.
1166
00:43:26.780 --> 00:43:28.820
They'd all been duped and actually it was a scripted comedy.
1167
00:43:28.860 --> 00:43:29.170
I'd love that.
1168
00:43:29.179 --> 00:43:31.090
They're the best actors in the world.
1169
00:43:31.610 --> 00:43:34.369
Yes, Stephen Moffat wrote it and it is about cancel culture.
1170
00:43:34.429 --> 00:43:39.070
So Hugh Bonneville plays a newsreader who gets cancelled because
1171
00:43:39.110 --> 00:43:43.469
he's overheard saying a sexist joke, but the ins and
1172
00:43:43.489 --> 00:43:46.190
outs of exactly what this joke are are kind of
1173
00:43:46.909 --> 00:43:50.530
hidden from us for the first three episodes, actually, out
1174
00:43:50.550 --> 00:43:53.590
of four episodes. So it's all about the kind of well,
1175
00:43:53.610 --> 00:43:56.130
the industry trying to sort of like navigate this sort
1176
00:43:56.150 --> 00:44:01.389
of potential viral kind of like cancellation. And it is
1177
00:44:01.409 --> 00:44:04.469
a phenomenal piece of writing from Stephen, actually, because it
1178
00:44:04.550 --> 00:44:07.820
manages to sort of walk this tightrope of, you know,
1179
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:11.739
it doesn't come down either side, whether it counts for culture,
1180
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:12.780
it's a thing for good or bad.
1181
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:14.679
You know, it really, really does walk a tightrope and
1182
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:17.110
you're seeing it from all different points.
1183
00:44:17.329 --> 00:44:19.769
Of view I mean in episode three I mean it's
1184
00:44:19.889 --> 00:44:22.570
very because he is so witty it's very funny and
1185
00:44:22.610 --> 00:44:26.010
actually knowing it as a play now it's very farcical
1186
00:44:26.050 --> 00:44:27.909
actually it's lots of kind of in and out of
1187
00:44:27.949 --> 00:44:30.800
rooms opening doors people passing each other in corridors you
1188
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:34.679
know it's very quick but actually episode three gets very
1189
00:44:34.780 --> 00:44:36.880
serious and deals with some I won't.
1190
00:44:36.739 --> 00:44:39.050
Go into detail but deals with some very serious issues
1191
00:44:39.369 --> 00:44:40.269
about the industry.
1192
00:44:40.369 --> 00:44:42.849
And it really kind of takes your breath away a
1193
00:44:42.849 --> 00:44:44.469
little bit because you've been laughing up till that point
1194
00:44:44.530 --> 00:44:47.489
and then suddenly you're questioning why you were laughing. But yeah,
1195
00:44:47.550 --> 00:44:50.090
I play a comedy writer who's effectively sort of brought
1196
00:44:50.139 --> 00:44:52.400
in by the news team to try and take on
1197
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:54.980
Hugh Bonneville's character's sort of Twitter profile, like try and
1198
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:56.440
make light of it and try and sort of feed
1199
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:59.420
in one-liners so that he sort of can try and
1200
00:44:59.460 --> 00:45:02.360
dilute this situation. But he's basically the comedy writer who's
1201
00:45:03.190 --> 00:45:05.670
a misogynist as well, has only ever sort of surrounded
1202
00:45:05.849 --> 00:45:08.409
himself by people like him and a very niche world
1203
00:45:08.429 --> 00:45:08.820
of comedy.
1204
00:45:08.929 --> 00:45:11.489
And so he's basically digging a bigger and bigger hole
1205
00:45:11.780 --> 00:45:12.260
for Douglas.
1206
00:45:12.389 --> 00:45:15.920
Well, that's on ITV1 and ITVX in June.
1207
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:19.840
ITV smashes drama, doesn't it? It absolutely smashes it.
1208
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.679
Yeah, it's doing some really interesting stuff on ITV.
1209
00:45:22.780 --> 00:45:26.280
And I think it's really interesting that I think, because
1210
00:45:26.340 --> 00:45:28.679
I assume, I've never actually found this out for definite,
1211
00:45:28.699 --> 00:45:31.119
but I assume that Stephen Moffat could have had the
1212
00:45:31.139 --> 00:45:33.860
pick of the crop, really, given his kind of calibre, right?
1213
00:45:34.340 --> 00:45:37.190
And it's really interesting, I think, that he's gone to
1214
00:45:37.289 --> 00:45:40.679
ITV because it's a very mainstream channel.
1215
00:45:41.070 --> 00:45:43.639
They brought down the post office. Do you think this
1216
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:45.320
could have the same impact?
1217
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:47.719
But I think it's this idea that it will definitely
1218
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:52.900
encourage conversation around council culture and misogyny and sexism in
1219
00:45:52.940 --> 00:45:56.110
the workplace and what counts as banter, what doesn't, what
1220
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:58.289
you're allowed to say in private, what you can say
1221
00:45:58.550 --> 00:46:00.510
when you've got the anonymity of social media.
1222
00:46:00.949 --> 00:46:02.969
I think it will encourage a real.
1223
00:46:02.789 --> 00:46:06.530
Mainstream conversation about a lot of those issues, but also
1224
00:46:06.590 --> 00:46:08.369
to put it on a platform. I mean, look, all
1225
00:46:08.389 --> 00:46:10.170
channels have occasionally got into trouble, but to put it
1226
00:46:10.190 --> 00:46:12.760
on a platform, you know, like ITV, which hasn't, you know,
1227
00:46:13.010 --> 00:46:15.219
it's certainly had its fair share of controversy is like,
1228
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:18.400
you know, you know, so I feel like it's really interesting.
1229
00:46:18.420 --> 00:46:20.280
I think they're in a really interesting kind of place
1230
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:22.599
and it's great that they're giving it such prominence, but yeah,
1231
00:46:22.659 --> 00:46:24.360
I'll be really interested to see how it, how it
1232
00:46:24.380 --> 00:46:24.679
goes down.
1233
00:46:24.980 --> 00:46:27.360
Late June, ITV1 and ITVX.
1234
00:46:27.380 --> 00:46:29.179
27th of June, I believe. 27th of June.
1235
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:33.699
Yeah, I assume it's on ITV, the whole thing's on ITVX,
1236
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:35.920
but then I think the linear broadcast is weekly.
1237
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:38.139
Oh, what, you think it's all out on ITVX in
1238
00:46:38.219 --> 00:46:38.539
one go?
1239
00:46:39.099 --> 00:46:40.179
I suspect so, yeah.
1240
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:44.480
Binge-worthy. People can bloody well binge it. Nick, we always
1241
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:45.679
end with the same question.
1242
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:46.699
I'm sure Becca knows.
1243
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:47.719
The Becca knows.
1244
00:46:48.030 --> 00:46:49.690
Becca has not told me what this question is.
1245
00:46:49.769 --> 00:46:50.489
Oh, well, that's good.
1246
00:46:51.010 --> 00:46:52.550
So you've never got to an end of a full
1247
00:46:52.570 --> 00:46:56.230
episode in a car, Nick. At the start of this chat,
1248
00:46:56.329 --> 00:46:58.409
you do listen. Just saying, I remember these things.
1249
00:46:59.929 --> 00:47:01.449
We're usually forced to put on, like, wheels on the
1250
00:47:01.469 --> 00:47:03.769
bus by that point. Yeah, yeah, sure. Something to get
1251
00:47:03.789 --> 00:47:04.150
the kids.
1252
00:47:04.590 --> 00:47:07.210
Oh, my God. I tell you what, I've done panel
1253
00:47:07.250 --> 00:47:09.619
shows where I've said I've seen it before. I don't
1254
00:47:09.659 --> 00:47:12.760
know why you said... My knee jerk is to say
1255
00:47:12.780 --> 00:47:15.519
to the researcher I've seen it before, and then before
1256
00:47:15.539 --> 00:47:17.559
you know it, you don't know the rules of what's happening.
1257
00:47:17.619 --> 00:47:18.690
I love the buzzer wing in it.
1258
00:47:18.929 --> 00:47:21.550
I will say that I'm so terrified of panel shows
1259
00:47:21.570 --> 00:47:23.949
that I have... Like, if I've ever gone on one.
1260
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:26.440
To be fair, Cassius Cantone is the only one I've done.
1261
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:27.489
You were brilliant on that.
1262
00:47:27.510 --> 00:47:29.269
I studied it to a T because I was just
1263
00:47:29.389 --> 00:47:30.110
so nervous.
1264
00:47:30.130 --> 00:47:31.489
You don't need to be, but you're funny.
1265
00:47:31.670 --> 00:47:32.730
Well, I just sort of felt because I'm not a
1266
00:47:32.789 --> 00:47:34.409
stand-up that I just wasn't going to.
1267
00:47:34.429 --> 00:47:35.889
Yeah, I know, but as I was saying, I've got
1268
00:47:35.929 --> 00:47:38.380
family members that are funnier than actual stand-ups and are
1269
00:47:38.389 --> 00:47:39.219
living on the circuit.
1270
00:47:39.500 --> 00:47:40.820
It's not because they're not funny, it's because they can't
1271
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:41.449
bother to do it.
1272
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:42.440
Oh, really?
1273
00:47:42.579 --> 00:47:44.420
Oh, wow. Yeah, you've smashed it every time. I did
1274
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:46.480
the movie show on Sky with you. You were great.
1275
00:47:47.030 --> 00:47:50.800
Oh, yeah, I did do that, didn't I? Yeah.
1276
00:47:50.900 --> 00:47:51.980
Alan Carr, Tom Allen.
1277
00:47:52.019 --> 00:47:54.400
Yeah, Alan Carr and Michael Sheen. Yeah.
1278
00:47:54.739 --> 00:47:57.340
Well, Nick, this is something that will make you uncomfortable.
1279
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.460
We'd like to end with a positive, which is something
1280
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:04.000
that your wife does, something that she does that just
1281
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.019
blows your mind. It's like, I couldn't parent like that.
1282
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.460
This is why, you know, she's the most amazing parent
1283
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:12.099
in the world. And something, if she was listening, we
1284
00:48:12.139 --> 00:48:16.039
don't know if she listens, that she does... that annoys you,
1285
00:48:16.059 --> 00:48:19.039
but you haven't brought up, but this, if she heard it,
1286
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:20.800
it'd be a chance for her to correct that small
1287
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:24.349
piece of behavior. So she, oh yeah, you go straight in,
1288
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:24.929
you go straight in.
1289
00:48:25.139 --> 00:48:27.050
I mean, she's literally upstairs doing this now.
1290
00:48:27.139 --> 00:48:31.039
So she is like literally, and she has no kind of,
1291
00:48:31.489 --> 00:48:32.929
there's no reason why she should be good at this,
1292
00:48:33.030 --> 00:48:35.090
but she can literally just like build stuff, like just
1293
00:48:35.190 --> 00:48:35.829
build stuff.
1294
00:48:36.250 --> 00:48:39.030
Yeah. I mean, she literally sort of like built the kitchen.
1295
00:48:39.110 --> 00:48:40.349
Like she just sort of did. And I don't even
1296
00:48:40.369 --> 00:48:41.590
just mean like flat pack.
1297
00:48:41.610 --> 00:48:43.300
Like she just, she just sort of learned how to
1298
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.619
tile things. just learned how to sort of like put
1299
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.679
paneling on, like did the flooring, the tiling. And I'm like,
1300
00:48:49.699 --> 00:48:52.380
where are you? And she's like, I just looked on YouTube.
1301
00:48:52.780 --> 00:48:56.659
She's literally phenomenal. She is like currently upstairs because I
1302
00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:58.780
think we are going to literally next week put Finn
1303
00:48:58.820 --> 00:48:59.519
up in the office.
1304
00:48:59.929 --> 00:49:01.110
Sort of moving stuff around.
1305
00:49:01.150 --> 00:49:04.590
And it can be annoying because like she'll sort of
1306
00:49:04.630 --> 00:49:06.269
finish off in one room and then she'll be like,
1307
00:49:06.690 --> 00:49:08.429
I think we should change it. If we should just do,
1308
00:49:08.690 --> 00:49:10.230
let's put a cupboard there or let's just do that
1309
00:49:10.269 --> 00:49:10.829
or put some shelves.
1310
00:49:10.989 --> 00:49:13.489
She'll just go and do it. And it is phenomenal.
1311
00:49:13.530 --> 00:49:17.070
Like, her work ethic, her ability to sort of just
1312
00:49:17.110 --> 00:49:19.469
know how to do it, like an innate ability to
1313
00:49:19.530 --> 00:49:21.460
sort of know how to do it but at the
1314
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:25.039
same time of having so much time and energy for
1315
00:49:25.659 --> 00:49:28.579
the kids and for for me and creating this like
1316
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:30.760
wonderful like i just don't know where she gets the
1317
00:49:30.780 --> 00:49:33.639
energy from and to survive on such little i mean
1318
00:49:33.659 --> 00:49:36.639
no i'm not getting much sleep she's getting even less
1319
00:49:36.659 --> 00:49:39.860
sleep i mean like it is phenomenal how she's able
1320
00:49:39.940 --> 00:49:43.619
to kind of function one day of that less than one.
1321
00:49:43.579 --> 00:49:45.980
Day of that i would be like i'm out of
1322
00:49:46.019 --> 00:49:46.500
this i.
1323
00:49:46.500 --> 00:49:50.219
Can't keep this up where she is and it maybe
1324
00:49:50.260 --> 00:49:51.860
even feels like a cliche to kind of like be
1325
00:49:51.900 --> 00:49:55.739
this is praiseworthy but i feel like people don't quite
1326
00:49:55.780 --> 00:49:57.380
get it and if people ever like come to the
1327
00:49:57.420 --> 00:50:00.119
house i'm like you know that becca literally made this
1328
00:50:00.219 --> 00:50:02.179
and they're like what do you mean do you mean
1329
00:50:02.219 --> 00:50:03.659
you got someone in to do it and she sort
1330
00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:05.139
of told them what i was like no no she
1331
00:50:05.179 --> 00:50:06.480
made it like what do you mean it's like she
1332
00:50:06.539 --> 00:50:10.039
got the like literally the ingredients like broke it down
1333
00:50:10.099 --> 00:50:12.300
into inconsistency and made it into the thing that it
1334
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.440
is i mean it is phenomenal like the only thing
1335
00:50:15.460 --> 00:50:17.760
she's not been doing is electrics and plumbing but like
1336
00:50:17.820 --> 00:50:21.429
everything else i think that's fair i But also, just
1337
00:50:21.449 --> 00:50:23.309
to go back to lockdown, in lockdown, because she's a
1338
00:50:23.309 --> 00:50:26.829
teacher as well, she just structured these days. Like the
1339
00:50:26.849 --> 00:50:29.369
kids didn't even notice. I mean, Arthur was too young still,
1340
00:50:29.389 --> 00:50:32.309
but Finn had started nursery at that point. But she
1341
00:50:32.349 --> 00:50:35.190
just created these really structured days to make it like,
1342
00:50:35.730 --> 00:50:37.409
so that they wouldn't really notice any different.
1343
00:50:37.469 --> 00:50:38.630
And it was just sort of normal.
1344
00:50:38.650 --> 00:50:41.030
So was she still teaching on Zoom as well? Like,
1345
00:50:41.289 --> 00:50:42.789
as well as doing the homeschooling stuff, was she on
1346
00:50:42.829 --> 00:50:43.389
maternity leave?
1347
00:50:43.409 --> 00:50:44.840
Doing bits and pieces, yeah, yeah.
1348
00:50:44.949 --> 00:50:45.510
But still teaching?
1349
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:46.199
Oh, dear.
1350
00:50:46.219 --> 00:50:47.559
She was on maternity leave with that and then just
1351
00:50:47.579 --> 00:50:49.900
started teaching sort of, again, within it. But yeah, I'm
1352
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:51.239
assuming she went back to the school that she was at.
1353
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:53.039
What is the negative? Is there a negative?
1354
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:54.500
Well, the negative is the mess.
1355
00:50:56.510 --> 00:50:58.769
Because I sort of have it in my head that, oh,
1356
00:50:58.829 --> 00:51:00.570
and this is partly from, I guess, from when we
1357
00:51:00.590 --> 00:51:02.389
were in the flat and had kids. It's like, it's
1358
00:51:02.429 --> 00:51:06.800
just easier to kind of just reset, like, everything, start
1359
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:09.539
the day afresh, because it's just otherwise it'll just sort of, like,
1360
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:11.860
kind of bounce up. But now that we've got, like,
1361
00:51:12.099 --> 00:51:14.599
a bit more space, it's absolutely fine for, like, one
1362
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:15.880
room to be messed up. I like to sort of, like,
1363
00:51:15.900 --> 00:51:17.139
go in and sort of, like, still sort of, like,
1364
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:19.989
tidy up. So I sometimes, like, prioritize the role of
1365
00:51:20.010 --> 00:51:24.489
things to sort of, like, I guess, but I sometimes
1366
00:51:24.530 --> 00:51:25.889
see the mess as a bit of a negative, but
1367
00:51:25.929 --> 00:51:27.860
it's not really. I mean, the grand scheme of things,
1368
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:29.320
she literally built a house.
1369
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:31.900
I mean, it's mad.
1370
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:34.260
Oh, well, Nick, this has been brilliant. Thank you so much.
1371
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:35.880
Amazing. Thanks so much.
1372
00:51:35.900 --> 00:51:37.619
Well, good luck with it, mate. Thank you so much.
1373
00:51:37.820 --> 00:51:38.539
Absolute joy.
1374
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:42.000
Thanks so much for having me. Always a pleasure. Take care,
1375
00:51:42.300 --> 00:51:44.500
both of you. And yeah, hopefully see you soon.
1376
00:51:46.210 --> 00:51:47.409
I love Nick Mohamed, Josh.
1377
00:51:47.429 --> 00:51:48.889
So do I. What a nice bloke.
1378
00:51:49.070 --> 00:51:51.130
He's the kind of person, I think, if I met him, like,
1379
00:51:51.210 --> 00:51:52.849
when I used to work in Sainsbury's, I'd be like,
1380
00:51:52.889 --> 00:51:53.789
you're going to be my mate.
1381
00:51:53.929 --> 00:51:54.230
Yeah.
1382
00:51:54.389 --> 00:51:55.090
We're going to be mates.
1383
00:51:55.179 --> 00:51:57.559
But, you know, life gets busy. We don't see each
1384
00:51:57.619 --> 00:51:59.360
other enough. But I think me and Nick Mohamed could
1385
00:51:59.380 --> 00:52:01.619
be really good pals if we lived close to each other.
1386
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:03.579
I think you could. You, him and David Schwimmer on
1387
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:05.260
the bloody Mega Lash.
1388
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:08.519
Having a couple of beers, chatting about friends, Ted Lasso
1389
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:09.929
and wedding day winners.
1390
00:52:11.309 --> 00:52:12.730
We don't know what's going to be a hit.
1391
00:52:14.150 --> 00:52:14.750
I like that show.
1392
00:52:15.309 --> 00:52:17.110
Yeah, I did. I thought Ross was a good character,
1393
00:52:17.170 --> 00:52:20.150
Monica was good. I thought Joey was a bit annoying,
1394
00:52:20.269 --> 00:52:20.889
but there we go.
1395
00:52:20.909 --> 00:52:22.079
But after a while, you fell in love with him.
1396
00:52:22.269 --> 00:52:23.050
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
1397
00:52:23.090 --> 00:52:23.769
We've all got faults.
1398
00:52:23.869 --> 00:52:25.750
We've all got faults. See you on what day?
1399
00:52:25.929 --> 00:52:26.289
Tuesday?
1400
00:52:26.710 --> 00:52:27.989
Yeah. Why not?
1401
00:52:33.309 --> 00:52:35.550
I'm Natalie Cassidy, and I've been wanting to do a
1402
00:52:35.590 --> 00:52:37.590
podcast of my own for a very long time.
1403
00:52:37.909 --> 00:52:38.480
And here it is.
1404
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:41.840
I'm going to be talking each week to family, friends,
1405
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:45.219
most importantly, you. I want to talk about the issues
1406
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.920
that are bothering me, things that make me smile and
1407
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:50.030
how we get through that washing basket without having a
1408
00:52:50.070 --> 00:52:53.309
nervous breakdown. This is a podcast for the general public,
1409
00:52:53.369 --> 00:52:56.090
for the normal people. So get on board, become part
1410
00:52:56.110 --> 00:52:58.210
of my community and let's have a laugh.