Self-Hating Sidepiece - (Bisexuality, Bob Mackie, and Badly Conceived Sneaker Ads)

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Coming to you from the dining room table at East
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Barbary Lane, welcome to a new episode of Full Circle,
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the podcast. A visit to our home where we squeeze
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a few headlines through our decidedly queer lens and see
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what happens. This episode is brought to you by decanted
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Armageddon from the crackers.
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I am your host, Charles Dyson Jr.
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And I'm your host, Martha Madrigal. Welcome to the Full
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Circle Table. Dumb.
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And yes, the answer is yes.
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Yeah, they're fucking praying for it. They're like, okay, good. Right.
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You know?
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I think they think Jesus will show up quicker. If
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Jesus showed up, they'd kill him.
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That part.
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Yeah.
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Calling him a faggot if he's lucky.
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Right, a brown faggot at that.
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They wouldn't say brown.
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Well, whatever.
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Let's back up. Hi, baby.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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How are you?
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I'm okay. How are you?
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Oh, the world is on fire. Yeah, I'm fine. I mean, fine.
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It's all fine. Everything's fine. Exactly.
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That's the mantra.
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Yeah. Measles is running rampant.
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Polio has made a comeback.
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All the food is going to kill you.
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Bubonic plague has shown up.
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Oh, great.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, let's not vaccinate.
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What's next? Rickets in the Jimmy legs? What the fuck
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are we doing?
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I don't... I mean... This is what happens when you,
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you know, abandon the experts. My bad.
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Not the bubonic plague. Leprosy. Leprosy has shown up.
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I did hear that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that fun?
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Not if you have leprosy.
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No. No kidding. It's all so insane. It's all so insane.
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You know?
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And I would be so embarrassed if I had ever
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voted for this. Of course, I did not. Nope. But
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I would be, you know. Horrified.
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Yeah.
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Just horrified. And feeling very betrayed. Mm-hmm. Like Milo is
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these days.
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Chow.
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We'll get to that bitch. Yeah. You know. Gas is what?
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Four something a gallon.
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Mm-hmm. These days. Knocking on five.
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Knocking on five. For regular gas.
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I was going to say, at least we don't drive
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diesel vehicles.
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My God. Well, they get better mileage, though. Overall. Well,
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that's good. They tend to be. Yeah. So, I mean,
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it probably, I don't know if it even sounds right now,
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but I think it might. Because diesel engines do get
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better miles per gallon.
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Because it costs a finger off your left hand every
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time you want to fill the tank.
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It's $ 6 and something a gallon, isn't it? I know.
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Something like that. That's insane. All this winning. And they
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just raised interest rates. That's fascinating. No one's got money
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for food. But okay. Ciao, ciao, ciao. I mean, the
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politicians do, clearly.
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Look at them. Oh, God.
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Yeah. And the... What did they... Wherever they gathered, they
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crashed Grindr in, what, two hours, was it? Yes. I
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don't know if it's a record or not for them.
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Well, it's a record for being... For how long it took.
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Oh, maybe that's it.
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It never takes that long.
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I didn't think so.
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Usually it's minutes.
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Yeah.
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Well, wasn't there, like, 23 people in the town they
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were in? Maybe that's why it took so long.
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Maybe. Maybe. I don't... You know, I'm just... Just... And,
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you know, getting ready to record forces me to look
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at the news.
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Well, at least we've introduced the speed run.
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That's something. Yeah, well, we're going to try to do that.
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Well, in the meantime, happy bisexuality awareness month.
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Yeah.
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Are you aware?
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I am. I am. I feel like they're trying to
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erase that, too, and call it pansexuality for some bizarre reason.
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I mean, like, we didn't need a new word.
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We didn't need a new word.
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If you understood what the other one meant.
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Right.
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I thought, I mean, I've always meant the same thing.
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Right. Pansexual always meant what I meant when I said bisexual.
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Right. Right.
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More than two.
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Not only two. And not a cisgender I never thought was,
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you know what I mean?
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Right.
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Like, they created a distinction that didn't previously exist. In
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my mind, that's what happened.
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Right.
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They said, oh, that's limiting.
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Right.
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It wasn't. Right. If you were, bye. But, you know,
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we don't ever ask the people directly involved usually.
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Yeah, because, you know, I remember times in my 20s
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when I'd be like, oh, he's cute. Look a little close.
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Hmm.
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She's cute. Wait, wait. Baby, what's your name?
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There.
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You're cute. Right.
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There's that. I don't know. Anyway, yes. I'm feeling aware. Right.
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That's our largest demographic.
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There you are right there.
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Yes. In the alphabet mafia. There I am right here.
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That is our largest demographic.
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Yes.
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58% I think. Something like that.
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78% I don't know. It's a big number. It's more
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than half. I'm thinking. And they're the ones that claim it.
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Exactly. The numbers are always bigger if you count everybody.
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Yeah. If you go looking through the closet. Dear God.
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I was just thinking about all the times like lisa
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and i'll be sitting outdoors at whatever cafe we're at
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in the gayborhood and like this person would go by
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and we both turn our head and then this person
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would go by we both turn our heads right and
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then i just laugh and go i love being us.
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Right all good all good it just you know that
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may be our only hope bisexuality yeah.
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I mean i agree but what do.
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You okay here's where i'm going with that So the
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more it is allowable, it's not even the right word,
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but for men to express bisexuality without negative consequence, the
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better a society I think we have.
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Oh, I agree.
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Because it all goes to that. I was just talking
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about this. That idea of We don't raise boys to
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be men, we raise them not to be women. Right.
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You know, that we eschew the feminine. Yeah. And when
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you look around at these politicians and Republicans and some Democrats,
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I mean, come on, let's be honest, they don't like women.
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No.
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They don't like the feminine at all. And so many
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of them want to harken back to that time that
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they found, I guess, more comforting when, you know, You
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got beat up for it. Oh, yeah. That they understood,
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I guess, while they hit it. And then they crashed Grindr.
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It's the circle of life.
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If more men would just embrace their bisexuality, they might
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fucking relax. And then who knows?
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And I'm actually just talking about the bisexuals. I'm not,
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you know, that's what I mean, right?
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Yeah. Just in general, if men could just fucking relax.
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I don't know where I'm taking this train. But, yes,
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the more that's okay. Because, like, I mean, growing up in,
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or coming of age, rather, in the 80s, that was
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just not, you know, especially around here, it was, like,
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not okay.
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The only time you could be bisexual could be if
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you were in a band and you had a guitar.
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Nah, even then. I mean, yes, but no. But maybe.
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I mean... A big band, I mean. A band, a
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well-known band, perhaps. I mean, that was kind of true.
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But generally speaking, that required a lot of chutzpah?
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What's the word?
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You know, to just eschew all of that.
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Because, I mean, like Prince and Bowie were the only
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ones that could, like, get away with it, and Prince
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wasn't even by.
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But there was that aesthetic that was, you know, All
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up and through the 80s. Right. Like Steven Tyler. Right.
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The guys that were considered the most badass had the
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most makeup on. Right.
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Right. And, but even, you know, among many of them,
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there was misogyny.
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Oh, hell yeah.
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Et cetera. Yeah. That sounds, hmm. Doesn't Prince, like, slap
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Apollonia in purple? Oh, well, yeah. Yeah.
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Well, I think that was supposed to be because, you know,
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he learned from his father.
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Oh, right.
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That was the, Maybe he's just like his father.
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Yeah, I know.
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Et cetera, et cetera.
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Et cetera.
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Mm-hmm.
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Ciao. Yeah. It's a bad movie. As much as I
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love him as an artist, it was not a great movie.
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I remember going to see it in movies.
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It's one of those films, and people are just now
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realizing it. Purple Rain was an iconic film, and it
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was an iconic moment in pop culture. That does not
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make it a good movie at all.
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It does not. It does not. And, you know, in
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some ways expanded the culture and in some ways constricted it.
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I mean, like, it's just, I don't know. It's all
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so upside down and confusing. I know.
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But.
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This is where I am today.
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One good thing about it being Bisexuality Awareness Month is
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it made me remember the article that you and I
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were in them.
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I forgot all about in.
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2023 i know it happened to pop up and in
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our memories and you know if you google us it
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does show up does that um and so i went
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back and i looked at it again i'm like this
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is good so i re i re-shared it i also
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put it on the announcements page of our website fullcirclethepod.com.
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I love that yeah i completely forgot we did this
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how did we wind up doing this we were asked
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to We've done so many interesting things.
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I know.
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I forget about them, especially when the world is on fire. Right.
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I tend to be staring at the flames going, how
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did we get here? Right. Just how did we get here?
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And when does this correct? I used to think it
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was a pendulum. I used to believe that.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, it is.
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And then I always conclude this with, this is my
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little bit of Mary Sunshine. No one said the patriarchy
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would die without a fight. Exactly. No one said it
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would just go away. Of course. And maybe these are
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finally the last throws while we still have a planet.
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That part. Oh, there I am. There's my picture and everything.
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Uh-huh.
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Okay. She's reading it in real Well, yeah, because I
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love that picture.
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Uh-huh.
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I do.
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I must have taken it.
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Huh. I think you did. Well, of course you did.
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Who else took it?
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It's one of your most popular photos. I think you're
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wearing that shirt. I'm classy, but I cuss a little.
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No, I'm wearing the Milton Pride shirt.
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Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right. Looking over your glasses.
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Yes, that one.
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Behind the podcast mic. Yes.
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Yeah. And yeah, so there we are with pictures. How
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about that? I forgot all about that. We're featured in
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this article.
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It's true.
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Yeah, I completely forgot that happened.
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That's so funny.
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Yeah. How about that? So yeah, that's shared. We were
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in them on lots of podcasts. We recorded once again for... Oh,
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But a Song podcast. Life is But a Song.
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Yes. Our buddy John.
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Right. The first one we did was Anything Goes, and
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we just recorded... about Ain't Misbehavin'. Ain't Misbehavin', and that's
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out now too, isn't it? Yes. So, okay. So you
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can go over to Life is But a Song and
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hear us talk about Ain't Misbehavin'. And what he tends
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to do with the show is talk about a recorded
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version of a musical.
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Even though we discuss more, listeners have to be able
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to go and watch what we're talking about.
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And so this was the Was it PBS televised recorded version?
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Was it PBS?
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I mean, that's where I saw it. It might have
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been like one of the networks when it first aired.
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was network, but I can't remember. At any rate, it
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was the recorded version with the original cast, Andre DeShields,
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Ken Page.
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Armelia McQueen.
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And Nell Carter.
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And Charlene Woodard.
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And Charlene Woodard. Yes. And so that's the version we
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talked about. And that's always fun. Yeah. Yeah. We're going
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to find another one and go back. We always have
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a good time.
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I believe the theme was MGM.
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MGM. Yes, I forgot to think about that. I need to.
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MGM musicals.
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Because there's so many.
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There are so many. And if I go look at
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the list, I'm sure I can pick a favorite or two.
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Yeah, the trick is going to be picking one that
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they haven't already talked about.
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Well, there's that. Because they'd be busy over there. I know.
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I love that. We had some death.
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We had some major losses. Mm-hmm.
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Bob Mackie.
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Bob Mackie died.
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Yes. I mean, he lived a nice long life and
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dressed some of our most famous divas. Oh, my God.
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Including Cher.
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Cher.
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Carol Burnett.
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Tina Turner.
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Diana Ross. Mm-hmm. And others.
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Yeah. Our Kathy.
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Right. Right. I was going to say, I even have
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a couple Bob Mackie pieces that I think came from Kathy. Yes.
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His ready to wear line, obviously.
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I remember I had said, because Kathy was like, oh, look,
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here's the other Bob Mackie. And I was like, that's
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the best sentence I think I've ever heard. The other.
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The other Bob Mackie.
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Bob Mackie.
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Yes. Yes.
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I mean, even RuPaul said, we're all born naked and
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the rest is Bob Mackie.
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I don't think that's exactly what she said.
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Well, she said that too.
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Oh, okay. She said drag.
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Well, yeah, she said that more often, but she has
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said Bob Mackie.
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Mm-hmm. He was 87.
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Mm-hmm.
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87. But yeah, put a lot of amazing costuming on. Oh,
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also Ann-Margaret and someone else. Yeah. There's so many- I'm
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not over the turf phase, but okay.
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Wow.
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There's a lot of queens that fall all over themselves
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over Bob Mackie. And there's this amazing drag pageant story
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that Brooklyn Heights was telling. It was like one of
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the major pageants. And Bob Mackie was one of the judges.
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And one of the queens came out in this Bob
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Mackie gown, of which there were only three in existence.
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Two were accounted for, and one was on this queen's ass.
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And Bob Mackie was like, that dress has been stolen. Yeah.
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And as soon as Miss Thing left the stage, so
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did the dress. They both disappeared.
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Stunts.
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Okay.
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So I think either the dress somehow made its way
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back to where it belonged, or there's still only two
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accounted for.
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I'm like, that is both ratchet as fuck and fierce
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as hell. Only because Bob Mackie was there himself.
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That's kind of fun. Who's next? Sharon Galt. Yes.
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Mama Makeup. So my introduction to her, probably most people's
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introduction to her, was in the documentary Truth or Dare, Madonna.
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She was the makeup artist on the tour.
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Right.
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And she would come in the room. She would knock
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on the door and go, Mama, Mama Makeup. And she
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had a whole little storyline. But when you say makeup
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artist to the stars.
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Right.
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That is an accurate description of Sharon Galt. She did everybody.
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She worked with David LaChapelle. She worked with Madonna, Pamela Anderson,
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Michael Jackson.
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Sam?
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Okay. I'm not seeing any details of her death, are you?
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Because it had just come out when I put it
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on the list. She was born in 62, so it is.
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Oh, 63. Okay. Or four. Yeah, 63. She would be
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or would have been 64 this year.
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Right.
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Okay. But details or no?
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Nothing new really has come out.
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That's young.
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It is young.
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I'm getting younger by the minute.
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Oh, she worked with Lady Gaga too. No surprise there.
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Yeah, that's a shame.
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We don't know yet. Nothing, no new details have come out.
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Okay. Duncan Sheik? Duncan Sheik died.
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He rose to fame in the 90s.
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As a pop star and then went to Broadway.
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Yes, he composed the score to Spring Awakening.
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Yes.
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And won the Tony. That was the same show that
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Bill T. Jones got his first Tony. Really? Yes.
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Wasn't John Gallagher Jr. in that? I think he was. Possibly. Yeah,
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I think so. He had the alt-pop hit Barely Breathing. Yes.
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I never really got into his music, but I always
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knew who he was.
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Okay.
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And he was 56.
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56. His mother said the cause of death was cardiac arrest.
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Yeah.
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So, it's been a month.
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I know. They're supposed to be reviving Spring Awakening. Really?
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Really. Yeah. I'm not familiar with the show.
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I'm not either. The only reason why I knew about
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it at all was because I knew Bill T. Jones
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was doing the choreography.
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Okay.
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And that was my thought. I was like, oh, Bill T.
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Jones is choreographing for Broadway.
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Work.
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That was the beginning and end of my knowledge.
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Gotcha.
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And then he got the Tony and I was.
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Like, work. Okay. Is there any good news? There is.
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We have any at all.
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A chunk of good news, actually.
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All right. I hope so. Because I waded through the
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rest of it, and I'm like, I don't want to
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talk about most of this.
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Like, for instance, we have Chris Pappas, who's a.
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Okay, man.
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Yeah.
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New Hampshire, right?
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Yeah, he won the primary in.
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Democratic primary for Senate. Yeah. And, yeah, he would be
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replacing retiring Senator Gene Shaheen, and he's going against a
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Sununu candidate.
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Yes.
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Yeah. But he is now the Democratic candidate in New Hampshire,
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assuming they do. the right thing, he will go to
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the Senate. And they kicked Sununu out months before. Yeah.
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The Senate seat he held from 2003 to 2008 before
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the Democrat took over, the one who was retiring. Right.
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And now he wants another bite at the apple. I
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hope New Hampshire is smarter than him. Yeah, really? They
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really do. The Democrats are confident that he can win.
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And it is a state Trump, who has endorsed Sununu,
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of course, has never won. So cautiously optimistic, we need
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more queer people. Exactly. In places of power, yeah. Yeah,
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we do.
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My whole knowledge of John Sununu was as a punchline
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on Murphy Brown.
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Right. Well, that was his father, I think. Yeah, this
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is Jr., Oh, okay.
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I was getting ready to say goddamn.
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That one's got to be dead, I'm pretty sure. Or
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decrepit as, you know.
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Mitch McConnell?
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Yeah. All I could think of was turtle head.
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Isn't a turtle head when, never mind, same thing.
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Maybe. So, you put this one here.
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Because it's something. Yeah.
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It is something. And I felt old reading it. Only
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because I thought.
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And of course this is happening in Seattle.
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I know. And I have to admit right at the
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top of this conversation that I thought there are Republicans watching.
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There are straight people watching. There are church people watching.
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And they're all going to jump on this. But hey.
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They would have anyway.
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I know. I know. Let's just read the headline.
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Seattle passes anti-discrimination protections for polyamorous partners in unanimous vote.
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Yes. Yes.
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I mean, you know.
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The theory, you know, being like, what did I read?
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If we're not expanding the circle of protections, we are
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leaving ground for people who are coming for marriage equality next. Right. Uh-huh.
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Uh-huh.
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Okay.
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Maybe.
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Maybe. Yeah. But go ahead.
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I was just thinking, like, cue the soundbite of like,
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what's next? You can marry your dog.
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Yes. Obesity has got, I'm sure it's been mentioned.
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Yeah, it's always.
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I'm sure.
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Right on the tip of their tongues is the very
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next thing that's going to happen.
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Right, right.
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Because that's what we heard when the subject was gay marriage.
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Well, they believe in keeping their multiple partners a secret.
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Right.
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As God intended.
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Right.
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Yeah. You know, with NDAs and stuff like that. Right. Yeah.
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The wife never meets the gumap. Whatever.
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Anyway. Well, yeah, because then you only have to pay
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taxes on one household.
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Well, right. So this... officially recognizes non-monogamous and polyamorous relationships,
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as well as multi-generational households, as protected classes. It amends
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sections of the municipal code to recognize genders outside the
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gender binary, recognize pansexuality and asexuality as orientations, and include
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consensual relationships with multiple partners as an element of attitudes
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and preferences, and practices pertaining to sexual orientation. Yeah. Oh, wow.
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It is the 10th and largest city to pass these protections.
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And the law takes effect June 1st, 2027. This applies
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to employment, housing, business, licensure, places of public accommodation, park usage,
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and bias-free policing. and residents facing unfair treatment could file
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complaints and seek remedy through Seattle's Office for Civil Rights.
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I mean, you know, I've always thought that that whole
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thing was messy only because everyone that I've seen undergo
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those relationships have been messy, but that, you know.
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Well, and that's, I guess, where my cynical little mind goes.
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Right.
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It's like, yeah, but wait until next week. Right. Like....
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But that's more the fault of those individuals, not polyamory itself,
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I guess.
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I do know some functional polyamorous situations.
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We do actually know.
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I promise you I'm not judging.
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If you can make it work, I am not mad
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at you. That's three incomes. Shit.
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Hey, I could use a wave.
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Ideally.
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I could use a wave. Seattle resident Jessa Davis reportedly
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led a grassroots movement to pass the measure after her
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partner was discriminated against at work due to being non-monogamous.
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So obviously she was talking about being non-monogamous at work.
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I'm just saying.
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Right. I mean, that's... Well, was she talking about being
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non-monogamous or was she talking about the other partner?
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Having multiple partners, perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps. Anyway... The Seattle Human
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Rights Commission wrote a letter to the council supporting the
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bill last year, emphasizing the urgency to pass it. People
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in multi-parent or multi-partner families, multi-generational households, chosen families, single parents,
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intentionally single individuals, and those in consensually non-monogamous, asexual, or
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aromantic relationships continue to face discrimination in housing, employment, and
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public life simply because their family structures fall outside outdated norms.
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By explicitly recognizing family and relationship structure as a protected class,
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the city affirms that safety, housing stability, employment access, and
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public participation should not depend on whether someone's life fits
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a traditional mold. The amendments do not create special treatment.
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They ensure equal treatment, closing loopholes that currently allow exclusion harassment,
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and denial of opportunities to persist unchecked. So it does
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attempt to identify those kinds of things, including hospital visits
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where you have more than one person. Right.
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That's what I was going to say. If you can
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keep your shit together long enough that paperwork gets involved,
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have at it.
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Right, but yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay, like a U-Haul contract.
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So there is legislation already in Somerville, Massachusetts, which is
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near Boston. They were the first country in the city
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to recognize polyamorous relationships in 2020 with an expanded domestic
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partner ordinance. That legislation granted poly partners the same rights
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as married couples, including hospital visitation, and conferring health insurance benefits.
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That's a big one. And as I read this, I
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thought about how many people we know who marry because
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of health benefits. And if we had universal health care,
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we'd have less paperwork overall. You know what I mean?
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If everybody walked around with health care, no matter where
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they worked, didn't work, lived, didn't live, everybody had it
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as a human right. We'd need less of this, not
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more of it. That was my thought in reading this.
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If people were given more basic rights, we would not
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need as much. Anyway, the city extended specific anti-discrimination protections
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in employment and for police interactions. Portland, Berkeley, and West
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Hollywood Cambridge, Massachusetts, Oakland, California, Olympia, Washington, Astoria, Oregon, and
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Hazel Park, Michigan, have all instituted similar protections. So this
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is not a brand new idea.
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None of that surprises me, those places.
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Yeah. I mean, anytime we're expanding rights rather than taking
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them away, we're expanding protections for unprotected folks, you know,
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I'm for that. Exactly.
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I am.
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Yeah.
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I am.
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I just... It all sounds so exhausting to me. Right? Seriously. Like, oh,
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my God. Oh, God.
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Right.
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I got two moody bitches on my hands.
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Right. See?
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Whatever.
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Yeah, whatever. Just all the emotional labor. I mean, there's
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enough with one partner, don't you think? I mean, I
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know I'm a lot, but I'm just saying. Picture two.
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You're plenty.
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You're plenty.
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Yeah, picture two.
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God damn it. You're plenty.
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Likewise.
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I'm good.
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Same. Same. Though, you know, again, an extra husband to
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do yard work who has fewer allergies and maybe an
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extra wife to do a little more cleaning in this
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place might not hurt.
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Well, you know.
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Anyway, I'm just, I'm playing.
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All right.
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So that is a thing that happened. And I'm just
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admitting that was my first thought was like, oh, my God. Right. Oh,
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my God. Just give him something to jump on. Right.
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I guess. On that note, let's take a break and
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then we'll come back with more good news.
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Sounds good to me.
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Be prepared. And we're back.
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We're back.
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So Virginia Governor Spanberger kills Yunkin-era rule that would have
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banned trans students from bathrooms. And, you know, I love
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the quote that said, she showed how Democrats win amidst
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Republican attacks. The Virginia Governor, Abigail Spanberger, joined thousands of
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constituents for the state's largest LGBTQ gathering recently. It was
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there she made an announcement about trans rights in the
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state that she says brought her to tears. She revealed
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that in July she successfully killed a vestige from her
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Republican predecessor, Glenn Youngkin, a Board of Health rule that
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had been in the works, which would have banned transgender
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women and girls from many women's bathrooms, locker rooms, and
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sports teams. The anti-equal rights measure was triggered after a
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trio of anti-trans activists petitioned the state to target males,
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claiming or pretending to be females, and gaining access to
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female-only athletic competitions and private spaces. Once again, your problem
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is with men and the things that men do, but
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we won't address that.
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Nope.
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We just won't address what the cis men are everybody's problem.
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And their behaviors that go unchecked. And of course, I mean,
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and right now we have a pedophile in chief. But yeah, let's, anyway. Anyway, sorry.
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No, you're not wrong. I digress. While also staying on point.
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Yeah. She said the testimony of families of transgender youth
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had moved her to act. Good.
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Yeah.
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I want to make members of the LGBTQ plus community
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know that you have a governor that values your community,
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she told the cheering crowd. There's no legal authority to
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move forward with rulemaking, and prior administrations may have tried
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to create lanes, and we're not doing this. God damn it.
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Those close to the situation said the governor intentionally kept
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it under wraps for the rest of the summer to
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avoid additional fights on the matter. Danica Rome, who we
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have met and who is a trans woman and a
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state senator, celebrated the rule's takedown on Blue Sky, calling
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Youngkin's policy an attempt to single out and stigmatize trans constituents.
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She said, I'm glad the governor cleaned up her predecessor's
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mess by correctly noting an executive agency can't just issue
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a rule to override the Code of Virginia, specifically the
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Virginia Human Rights Act, to single out and stigmatize trans constituents. Nice.
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Bam.
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It sends a message. to campaigns across the country, said
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Tyler Hack, who is the executive director of the Christopher
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Street Project, a group fighting for candidates that support trans rights.
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More on that in this show. He said Spanberger was
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proof that winning elections did not necessitate sacrificing trans rights
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and equity. And we're watching Democrats do it.
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Yeah.
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And we're going to talk about that. You know, and
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this comes in states like Texas, Ohio, and Iowa, where
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Democratic candidates have begun creeping away from the party line
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and expressing anti-trans sympathies or even anti-trans votes. Yep. These
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defections are still the vast minority of blue candidates, but
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it is happening.
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And there's too many of them.
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And I want them punished.
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Right.
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I hope they lose as much as possible. And this
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is an ongoing conversation. So some of this belongs in
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the cavalcade, of course, as conservatives pour major funds into
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anti-trans ads against Democrats. Musk just put in $ 100 million
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in his America pact into attack ads during a last-minute splending.
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And he's fixated not just on trans people, but the
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Democrats who are Already are fucking with us.
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It's almost like real issues aren't enough or it's almost
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as if they don't have any real stances. So they
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have to, you know, do the boogeyman game.
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Yeah. I'm never going to argue that a certain amount
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of money does buy happiness or at least the kind
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of misery we could all comfortably live with.
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Right.
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But too much money does not. Yeah. And that is
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evidenced by these freaks. Mm-hmm. These absolute freaks. Mm-hmm. Who
666
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are never happy.
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Yeah.
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You know, who want to, like, they cannot live and
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let live, and they can't even fucking smile.
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There's a difference between a lot of money.
671
00:34:39.820 --> 00:34:41.789
And- Unless they're being evil. Doctor evil. Right.
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A lot of money and too much money.
673
00:34:43.989 --> 00:34:44.309
Yeah, there is.
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Because when you have too much money, it becomes a weapon.
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Yeah. Yeah. And when we say eat the rich, we
676
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don't mean all of them. Nope. Just- a couple should
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do the trick, but we need a, a clearly a
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couple more. Cause one CEO didn't do it.
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Ironically enough, the rich that need eaten, I would never
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want in my mouth.
681
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Oh, God knows. God knows. But I, I hear it
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pays well. Um, yeah. So good on her. Good on
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the governor because this nonsense has to be, uh, countered everywhere.
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It can be.
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Oh yeah.
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As often as possible. And, um, Hopefully we do see
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some creative ways to affect these policies all over this country.
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LGBTQ plus middle schoolers, again, in a conservative Virginia school board.
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I love this.
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Took them to court to protect their rights and they won.
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We're talking about King George County in Virginia.
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I love this.
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Changed the rules after students tried to establish a GSA.
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Now it has changed them back. Weeks before the dispute
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was headed to trial. Don't tell me that, you know,
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individuals and groups don't have power. And don't tell me
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kids can't have power. You know what I mean?
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I believe the children are our future.
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Mm-hmm. For nearly a year, LGBTQ plus students in one
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rural Virginia county watched the adults overseeing their education move
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the goalposts. Mm-hmm. Students at King George Middle School followed
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the rules to establish a gay-straight alliance. The principal approved it.
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17 students expressed interest. Then conservative backlash erupted on Facebook.
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The club was suspended and the King George County School
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Board changed the policy so middle school students could no
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longer form non-curricular organizations.
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Any of them.
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Go freedom!
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Right.
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Now, after being sued in federal court, the board has
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changed the rules back. They voted unanimously on Friday to
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allow secondary school students to organize and conduct meetings on
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non-curricular groups, according to the Fredericksburg Free Press. The revision
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removes language adopted last November that restricted those organizations to
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King George High School. The vote followed a closed session
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that began at 8 a.m. for briefings involving actual or
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probable litigation. Board members did not publicly mention the lawsuit
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brought by two middle school students and their families. But
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one week earlier, a federal judge disclosed that the litigation
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had produced a settlement.
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I bet they didn't bring it up.
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I bet they didn't. Having been advised that the parties
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have reached a settlement, Senior U.S. District Judge Robert E.
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Payne wrote in a September 4th order obtained by the advocate,
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any further discovery deadlines are stayed until further order of
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this court. Good. There was a bench trial scheduled for
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October 27th. But, you know, this is a bit of
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fuck around and find out. Yep. That's what it is. And, yeah, they...
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We have to check power. We have to put it
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in check. These people that think that they can just
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rewrite everything need to be put in their place whenever
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and wherever possible. And we know they start with school boards.
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They do.
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That's the entry point.
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Yep. This is their entry point. Yep. It remains unclear
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whether the students must restart the application process. when the
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GSA will be allowed to meet, or whether the settlement
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contains protections against selective enforcement of new requirements. Of course,
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no one had comment. Of course not. For this story.
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What are they going to say? We got beat by children.
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We got beat by children.
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Yeah. Anyway, it's good news because... Because it is. Because
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it is.
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Yeah. So this next story, I mean, you know, it
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doesn't need much beyond the headline. It's because we already know.
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Dolly Parton paid for the gender affirming care of her
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good friend and chauffeur for 30 years.
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Yes. In California.
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Yeah.
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Trans man was her chauffeur for many years. Yeah. And
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they tried to start a scandal with this, like back
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in the 90s. And she kind of, she went, so what? Right.
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You know, like knock it off. Like she shrugged her
754
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shoulders and of course kept. Jason Pirro, employed.
755
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Yep.
756
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Yeah, this Jason... already, this was in the 80s. He
757
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already had clients including Farrah Fawcett, Chris Christopherson, Willie Nelson,
758
00:39:36.420 --> 00:39:40.159
and Elizabeth Montgomery. The driver, who at 300 pounds, cuts
759
00:39:40.219 --> 00:39:44.489
a memorable figure in his chauffeur's tuxedo uniform, would work
760
00:39:44.530 --> 00:39:47.389
with Dolly Parton for over 30 years in that role
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and others. And become someone the singer described as her
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good friend.
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00:39:51.869 --> 00:39:57.460
Period. Yep. And we all already know how Dolly did
764
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with her money, with things that she cared about.
765
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Right. Pura was outed in 1990 on the cover of
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00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:09.480
The Star. That rag. It was splashed across a photo
767
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of Parton in signature rhinestones and looking uncharacteristically fraught. The
768
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headline blared, Sex Chains Shocker. in dolly's limo and her
769
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driver is a man who used to be a woman
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the story inside belied the sensational wind-up this is i
771
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mean it's been known yeah for quite some time that
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she was supportive and that she has had trans people
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in her life and queer people in her life and
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00:40:37.389 --> 00:40:40.329
close to her Yeah. You know, and the many people
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00:40:40.369 --> 00:40:42.349
that worked for her. And, yeah.
776
00:40:42.369 --> 00:40:44.289
It's on brand for Dolly.
777
00:40:44.449 --> 00:40:47.130
Yeah. The only gross thing that seems to be happening
778
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is there's, you know, the people who try to, you know,
779
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get some clicks by sensationalizing stories and creating nonsense that
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00:40:54.500 --> 00:40:56.539
never happened. Right. And that's happening, too.
781
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Oh, of course.
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I think it was Stella Parton who went on a
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bit of a rage about that. But what's interesting is
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watching Stella Parton now, because, like, she can just go
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off on social media. She's, like, not even... I wasn't
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following her before. I am now. So I don't know
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how outspoken she's been. But she sure as hell is
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00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:20.760
these days. Right. Yeah. Yeah. She's not hiding her disdain
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for this administration and their bullshit. Right. And the people
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that support them.
791
00:41:25.500 --> 00:41:28.119
She doesn't have to worry about fucking with her sister's gig.
792
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Exactly. And I'm pretty sure Dolly was not a mega fan. No.
793
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Her money said otherwise. That part. Yeah.
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That part.
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And this is one more example. Good on Dolly. Vivian
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Jenna Wilson. He. Who I am loving more and more.
797
00:41:44.469 --> 00:41:45.090
I know.
798
00:41:45.170 --> 00:41:51.090
Tells fans, disobey. Don't be a GOP scapegoat. Who might
799
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that be aimed at? No idea.
800
00:41:53.269 --> 00:41:53.670
Hmm.
801
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Her daddy, of course, is Elon Musk.
802
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:03.349
Mm-hmm. Well, the person who donated sperm to her existence.
803
00:42:03.510 --> 00:42:03.769
Right.
804
00:42:03.909 --> 00:42:05.230
She doesn't claim that motherfucker.
805
00:42:05.289 --> 00:42:08.070
No, she does not. She's in a provocative new fashion
806
00:42:08.110 --> 00:42:13.789
campaign with an important midterm message. Transgender model and disavowed
807
00:42:13.969 --> 00:42:17.389
daughter of Elon Musk, Vivian Jenna Wilson, is starring in
808
00:42:17.409 --> 00:42:23.639
a well-timed campaign for DeSigual, the not-the-same Barcelona-based fashion brand.
809
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:28.360
The campaign's tagline, Born to Disobey. It's a perfect fit
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for the rebellious 20-something who came out as trans six
811
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years ago and has staked out a role as trailblazing
812
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advocate and puckish thorn in the side of her estranged father,
813
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:44.480
whom she's described as cruel. He calls her dead. The
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00:42:44.500 --> 00:42:47.719
fashion campaign plucks a cord on Williams' association with the
815
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tech billionaire as she battles a robot in the too
816
00:42:51.340 --> 00:42:54.639
brief teaser. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, friends have
817
00:42:54.699 --> 00:42:58.409
sent me clips of this and they're quite fun. So, yeah,
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go her.
819
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I just want to know how long before we stop
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00:43:03.769 --> 00:43:06.150
referencing him when we talk about her.
821
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It's relevant.
822
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:11.559
It's relevant now, but I'm saying.
823
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Yeah, I hope that we do. But it is relevant
824
00:43:15.300 --> 00:43:21.059
because so often we feel powerless, right? Right. And it's
825
00:43:21.099 --> 00:43:24.760
good to see someone come so solidly against a parent
826
00:43:24.780 --> 00:43:29.360
with enormous power. and enormous resources and say, fuck you.
827
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Fuck you and everything you stand for and keep your
828
00:43:32.610 --> 00:43:36.389
fucking money. I'll make my own. So she is an
829
00:43:36.429 --> 00:43:39.929
important voice right now for trans folk. Oh, indeed. So
830
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I don't know.
831
00:43:40.449 --> 00:43:41.130
I don't know.
832
00:43:41.150 --> 00:43:43.550
I believe that we will, but there's always going to
833
00:43:43.590 --> 00:43:46.949
be that part of her story. It is part of
834
00:43:47.010 --> 00:43:50.639
her story, what she overcame, what she walked away from. Yeah.
835
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.739
And what she has to say about that jackass. It's fun.
836
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It is fun.
837
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You know, so I don't know. I don't know, but
838
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if it keeps getting her gigs, good. Good. While the
839
00:44:04.460 --> 00:44:07.820
right is preying on fear, their targets should be anything
840
00:44:07.860 --> 00:44:13.619
but scared, Wilson said, noting that disobedience inspires confidence. Many
841
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:16.099
of us, including myself, end up having most of our
842
00:44:16.139 --> 00:44:20.030
typical teenage experiences in early adulthood, Wilson said, of trans
843
00:44:20.139 --> 00:44:24.230
people's sometimes unique adolescence. And some of us wait longer.
844
00:44:25.110 --> 00:44:28.159
I think there's a specific beauty in that. Fashion has
845
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.880
helped me figure out who I am and made me
846
00:44:30.980 --> 00:44:34.119
more confident in my aesthetic and how I'm facing the world.
847
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:36.980
To be honest, the people I met in fashion have
848
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:41.389
likely had more of an impact on me than fashion itself,
849
00:44:41.989 --> 00:44:45.570
she said. You are not alone. Find a queer community
850
00:44:45.610 --> 00:44:49.190
however you can will always be my advice. Mine too.
851
00:44:49.929 --> 00:44:53.280
Just be careful, she said, of disobedience. Adding safety should
852
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:56.940
always be your priority. I wonder how many bodyguards she has.
853
00:44:57.420 --> 00:44:57.699
Right?
854
00:44:58.900 --> 00:44:59.300
I would.
855
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:00.820
I know that's right.
856
00:45:01.820 --> 00:45:05.980
If daddy was that vindictive and that destructive and that
857
00:45:06.659 --> 00:45:11.360
small a human with that many resources, yeah, I would.
858
00:45:11.980 --> 00:45:15.639
Well, not to mention Sasha Colby took her under her wing.
859
00:45:16.139 --> 00:45:19.000
So I bet you she knows several ways to hide
860
00:45:19.059 --> 00:45:19.960
things in a ponytail.
861
00:45:21.889 --> 00:45:25.309
Well, there you go. There you go. There is a
862
00:45:25.349 --> 00:45:29.539
new children's book archive defying the rights efforts to erase
863
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:33.300
LGBTQ plus identity. Shame that this has to happen. Glad
864
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.699
it exists. Bad part. And the first book in this
865
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:41.110
particular collection dates back to 1969. I love that. Yeah.
866
00:45:41.230 --> 00:45:44.710
So this is, I believe, in San Francisco. A couple
867
00:45:44.730 --> 00:45:48.690
of gay fathers put this together. We're talking about the
868
00:45:48.869 --> 00:45:55.329
Tarpey Schwed LGBT Families Children's Book Collections. housed in San
869
00:45:55.369 --> 00:45:58.889
Francisco at the Mechanics Institute, which is a private 19th
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00:45:58.929 --> 00:46:03.239
century library. This collection includes over 200 books, magazines, and
871
00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:07.059
other printed materials that feature queer characters, themes, and other
872
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:09.880
diverse representations of families.
873
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:11.039
A work!
874
00:46:11.219 --> 00:46:11.460
Yes.
875
00:46:11.539 --> 00:46:15.510
I'm looking at the website for the collection, and the
876
00:46:15.550 --> 00:46:20.070
way it's organized is so cool. Early landmarks, families and
877
00:46:20.110 --> 00:46:24.280
picture books, challenges and public debate, small presses and publishing networks,
878
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:28.599
translations and editions, and collector and donation contacts. It's very cool.
879
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:32.389
So we should put the link to the collection website
880
00:46:32.429 --> 00:46:33.269
in the program notes.
881
00:46:33.389 --> 00:46:35.889
Absolutely, let's please do that. It's one of the most
882
00:46:35.909 --> 00:46:39.650
thorough catalogs of early LGBTQ plus children's literature in the
883
00:46:39.690 --> 00:46:44.519
United States, said Miles Cooper, a librarian at the Institute
884
00:46:44.940 --> 00:46:48.519
who helps manage the collection. This is a very fragile
885
00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:53.110
area of collections. They're being banned, even in public libraries
886
00:46:53.329 --> 00:46:56.269
in California. It really is an area that we need
887
00:46:56.289 --> 00:47:00.809
to collect and keep and maintain just for our own history.
888
00:47:01.789 --> 00:47:04.559
As well as telling the stories of LGBTQ plus families,
889
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:08.380
the collection also tells the stories of publishers that dared
890
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:12.079
to print some of those first stories that had representation
891
00:47:12.099 --> 00:47:16.840
of alternative families. This is good news. Yeah.
892
00:47:17.019 --> 00:47:19.639
You know, I was just thinking the other day, like,
893
00:47:20.139 --> 00:47:24.619
how fabulous of a job being an archivist actually is,
894
00:47:26.139 --> 00:47:30.949
you know, like, yeah. And we don't, we don't give
895
00:47:30.989 --> 00:47:31.730
them enough credit.
896
00:47:32.449 --> 00:47:32.929
I agree.
897
00:47:33.050 --> 00:47:35.019
They're literally keepers of history.
898
00:47:35.869 --> 00:47:37.369
I think we're still at a point where God knows
899
00:47:37.429 --> 00:47:41.489
what happens with the William Wake Community Center in Philadelphia ultimately,
900
00:47:41.570 --> 00:47:46.920
but the most important thing to my thinking is their archive. Yes.
901
00:47:47.219 --> 00:47:49.760
Which has to be preserved at all costs. Yes. And
902
00:47:49.860 --> 00:47:52.340
I believe it will be. I mean, may they emerge
903
00:47:52.420 --> 00:47:55.179
and continue to have a community center, but the archive
904
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:56.360
is irreplaceable.
905
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:56.719
Yeah.
906
00:47:57.059 --> 00:48:01.679
Because so many gay folks through the years have donated
907
00:48:02.179 --> 00:48:04.760
important things to those archives.
908
00:48:04.780 --> 00:48:04.949
Yep.
909
00:48:05.699 --> 00:48:09.179
And that tells our history when so many don't want to.
910
00:48:09.550 --> 00:48:09.909
Mm-hmm.
911
00:48:10.630 --> 00:48:15.510
And this is another situation. The American Library Association tracked
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00:48:15.510 --> 00:48:19.710
208 unique titles in 2016 that were challenged in public
913
00:48:19.769 --> 00:48:23.590
schools and libraries in the United States. That number skyrocketed
914
00:48:23.630 --> 00:48:31.579
to 4,200 titles in 2025. Yep. Nearly 40% featuring... LGBTQ
915
00:48:31.619 --> 00:48:35.500
plus characters or people of color. Because if you can't
916
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:36.920
read about them, we don't exist.
917
00:48:37.059 --> 00:48:37.619
Right, that part.
918
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:45.789
Yeah, God forbid children find books to identify with and
919
00:48:45.809 --> 00:48:48.329
feel less alone in this world. But yeah, they're the
920
00:48:48.389 --> 00:48:51.369
family values people. So disgusting.
921
00:48:51.630 --> 00:48:52.329
It is disgusting.
922
00:48:52.730 --> 00:48:56.610
And when you call them on their cognitive dissonance, they
923
00:48:56.630 --> 00:48:59.409
don't speak to you anymore. Talking about my own family.
924
00:48:59.670 --> 00:48:59.869
Well.
925
00:49:01.449 --> 00:49:04.929
This is a quote from Sarah Lambden, Executive Director of
926
00:49:04.969 --> 00:49:08.590
the Office for Intellectual Freedom at the American Library Association.
927
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:11.920
She said, anyone who's willing to say that Entango makes
928
00:49:12.099 --> 00:49:16.420
three could be harmful to anyone isn't being honest with
929
00:49:16.460 --> 00:49:21.239
themselves or the community that they're addressing. Wow. That lightning
930
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:25.219
rod of a children's book published in 2005 is based
931
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:27.960
on the true story of a pair of penguin dads.
932
00:49:28.019 --> 00:49:28.199
Yep.
933
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:31.019
It is one of the most banned books in the
934
00:49:31.059 --> 00:49:31.860
United States.
935
00:49:32.579 --> 00:49:35.780
Mm-hmm. It literally fucking happened.
936
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:36.280
Uh-huh.
937
00:49:36.699 --> 00:49:36.960
Yeah.
938
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:37.420
Yeah.
939
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:38.099
Yeah.
940
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:40.289
Mm-hmm. There are gay penguins.
941
00:49:41.210 --> 00:49:43.929
There are. They exist. And leopards and peacocks.
942
00:49:43.949 --> 00:49:46.909
But if you pretend they don't exist, they still exist.
943
00:49:46.929 --> 00:49:48.219
Ocelots.
944
00:49:48.300 --> 00:49:49.420
Oh my god, the idiocy.
945
00:49:49.619 --> 00:49:50.619
Three-toed sloths.
946
00:49:52.219 --> 00:49:54.239
It's adorable. And it's true.
947
00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:58.739
It's true. News.
948
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:05.179
Of course they have, you know, Heather has two mommies.
949
00:50:05.579 --> 00:50:10.639
Daddy's roommate. 10,000 dresses, Operation Marriage, all of them are
950
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:14.619
included in this collection. It's cool. It is cool.
951
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:15.099
It's very cool.
952
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.539
Yeah. It's cool that they're thinking about it and worried
953
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.199
about it. I used to love that there would be
954
00:50:21.510 --> 00:50:24.530
a display at our local library of banned books.
955
00:50:25.030 --> 00:50:25.550
Oh, yeah.
956
00:50:25.670 --> 00:50:27.750
Yeah, during banned book month. And I would take my
957
00:50:27.789 --> 00:50:31.329
kids specifically, like, pick something out. Pick out a couple.
958
00:50:31.550 --> 00:50:34.969
Let's go. Yeah, I loved explaining that. If they don't
959
00:50:35.010 --> 00:50:36.429
want you to read it, I want you to read it.
960
00:50:37.110 --> 00:50:38.730
Take what you want, read what you take.
961
00:50:39.150 --> 00:50:41.030
Yeah, I mean, because the shit that would wind up
962
00:50:41.070 --> 00:50:43.719
there was great. To Kill a Mockingbird.
963
00:50:43.739 --> 00:50:45.860
Mm-hmm. And that's back in the day.
964
00:50:46.059 --> 00:50:46.960
Catcher in the Rye.
965
00:50:47.059 --> 00:50:48.860
The Bluest Eye is always at the top of the
966
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:49.179
list now.
967
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.219
The Bluest Eye, yeah. Oh, yeah. And, you know, I've
968
00:50:52.260 --> 00:50:56.940
long said, I made sure my children were exposed to
969
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.519
what other parents might have called black literature.
970
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:01.280
Right.
971
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.400
And black authors and queer authors. And, you know, like I...
972
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.199
That is how you educate a populace. That is how
973
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:11.820
you educate a family, is to expose them to a
974
00:51:12.019 --> 00:51:16.219
variety of thinking and experience, not their own. Right. It
975
00:51:16.260 --> 00:51:25.409
makes them better people. Yeah. It's true. Armageddon on a cracker.
976
00:51:25.809 --> 00:51:28.510
From the crackers. Armageddon from the crackers. That might be
977
00:51:30.110 --> 00:51:32.610
what we call this episode. Anyway.
978
00:51:32.769 --> 00:51:35.170
Armageddon on, parentheses, from crackers.
979
00:51:37.449 --> 00:51:44.889
A cracker. Okay. So here's another one because I love
980
00:51:44.929 --> 00:51:48.860
it when folks will not comply. This story from Aaron
981
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:53.639
in the morning. Maryland teachers refuse to out trans students
982
00:51:53.940 --> 00:51:56.199
after their district pivots for Trump.
983
00:51:57.019 --> 00:51:57.360
Ha.
984
00:51:57.579 --> 00:52:00.920
Some teachers say they simply won't comply with the mandatory
985
00:52:00.980 --> 00:52:06.170
dead naming directive because it's nothing but If you don't
986
00:52:06.190 --> 00:52:09.360
know your kid is trans, you're the problem. You're the
987
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:10.500
reason you don't know.
988
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:10.820
Right.
989
00:52:12.780 --> 00:52:16.780
Anne Arundel was one of the first districts in Maryland
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00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:20.269
to adopt a supportive framework for trans and gender nonconforming students.
991
00:52:20.809 --> 00:52:26.179
But when the Trump administration came knocking, they changed course. Cowards. Mm-hmm.
992
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:31.000
Revised guidelines given to teachers by the district instruct teachers
993
00:52:31.099 --> 00:52:35.840
to forcibly deadname a child upon a parent's request or worse,
994
00:52:36.380 --> 00:52:40.320
out them. Now some teachers are reportedly saying that they
995
00:52:40.380 --> 00:52:44.929
will simply not comply with the new directive. For years,
996
00:52:45.530 --> 00:52:49.530
Anne Arundel County Public Schools students of high school age
997
00:52:49.610 --> 00:52:52.869
have been able to request accommodations such as access to
998
00:52:52.909 --> 00:52:57.750
different bathrooms or a new name independently. Moreover, teachers were
999
00:52:57.809 --> 00:53:01.769
not allowed to out students to their parents. This policy
1000
00:53:01.809 --> 00:53:07.289
attracted the ire of one unsupportive family of a transgender student,
1001
00:53:07.750 --> 00:53:10.809
plus the lawyers at America First Legal, people who have
1002
00:53:10.889 --> 00:53:15.280
nothing better to do, the far-right activist legal group founded
1003
00:53:15.340 --> 00:53:19.539
by Stephen Miller as a counterweight to the radical ACLU.
1004
00:53:20.179 --> 00:53:24.260
In early July, they filed a lawsuit against the district
1005
00:53:24.590 --> 00:53:29.449
arguing the rule violated the family's parental rights to dictate
1006
00:53:29.550 --> 00:53:34.909
the gender identity and expression of their child. I think
1007
00:53:34.949 --> 00:53:37.349
of all the wasted time trying to tell people who
1008
00:53:37.389 --> 00:53:43.949
they are. You know? You know? You don't dictate gender identity. Right.
1009
00:53:44.469 --> 00:53:46.699
You can dictate expression for a while, and you can
1010
00:53:47.579 --> 00:53:49.440
do your best to crush a soul, which God knows
1011
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:53.000
so many parents have, including mine. But yeah.
1012
00:53:53.929 --> 00:53:56.659
And ironically enough, the ones that work the hardest at
1013
00:53:56.699 --> 00:54:01.380
trying to dictate who their child is have the least
1014
00:54:01.460 --> 00:54:02.539
amount of self-awareness.
1015
00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:08.150
Often. And rent boys in the closet.
1016
00:54:08.590 --> 00:54:08.989
Well.
1017
00:54:09.050 --> 00:54:10.869
Anyway. Well.
1018
00:54:11.110 --> 00:54:11.309
Yeah.
1019
00:54:12.190 --> 00:54:14.630
And mommy's busy having, like, what was the Moms for
1020
00:54:14.690 --> 00:54:16.949
Liberty woman? The one on the school board? Remember? It's
1021
00:54:17.010 --> 00:54:19.400
like she was in sex games or some shit. Oh, yeah.
1022
00:54:19.460 --> 00:54:21.719
Of course she was. Of course she was.
1023
00:54:22.019 --> 00:54:22.260
Mm-hmm.
1024
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:25.760
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Family values party. There they go again.
1025
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:29.300
Do as I say, not who I do. What I do.
1026
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:37.869
Do it. Yeah. That's all, folks. I say what I say. Yeah.
1027
00:54:37.929 --> 00:54:43.030
So Coward Superintendent Mark T. Bedell, B-E-D-E-L-L, issued a letter
1028
00:54:43.130 --> 00:54:47.139
to the families notifying them that the district handbook was
1029
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:51.300
changing for the upcoming start of the school year, noting
1030
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:54.530
nothing in the regulation should be construed to limit or
1031
00:54:54.630 --> 00:54:58.349
otherwise interfere with parents' or guardians' rights, including the right
1032
00:54:58.389 --> 00:55:02.969
to inspect and review their students' complete education record. What
1033
00:55:02.989 --> 00:55:06.429
the change would look like for teachers in practice was
1034
00:55:06.489 --> 00:55:10.940
a mystery, until a Maryland newsroom got a hold of
1035
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:15.090
training material's that the district presented to teachers. If the
1036
00:55:15.190 --> 00:55:18.909
parent does not agree, the school must comply with the
1037
00:55:19.010 --> 00:55:24.230
parent's request, including preferred name, group bathroom use, and pronouns.
1038
00:55:25.250 --> 00:55:29.929
A district slideshow presentation said, in other words, parents gained
1039
00:55:29.949 --> 00:55:33.550
the ability to force teachers to deadname and misgender their students,
1040
00:55:34.190 --> 00:55:37.389
or otherwise place them in certain bathrooms, locker rooms, or
1041
00:55:37.429 --> 00:55:41.300
other gendered accommodations, even if it puts the student in danger.
1042
00:55:43.860 --> 00:55:48.599
I love that the teacher's union president, Christina Corona, wrote
1043
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:51.739
in an email to union members, the protection of our
1044
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:54.900
students' dignity and their right to be treated with fairness
1045
00:55:54.940 --> 00:55:58.840
and equity at school is among our highest moral obligations
1046
00:55:59.019 --> 00:56:02.190
as educators. Hear, hear.
1047
00:56:02.989 --> 00:56:06.909
Remember when it was assumed that the teacher knew more?
1048
00:56:07.449 --> 00:56:13.289
Well, I'm not even going to say knew more, but...
1049
00:56:14.070 --> 00:56:19.789
Judgment was more respected. The teacher's judgment was respected. You know,
1050
00:56:20.150 --> 00:56:24.309
this type of accommodation did not exist when I was
1051
00:56:24.349 --> 00:56:26.670
in school, probably not even when you were in school.
1052
00:56:27.250 --> 00:56:30.210
You know, it is fairly new to be respectful to
1053
00:56:30.250 --> 00:56:33.369
trans kids. And, you know, people are losing their mind
1054
00:56:33.449 --> 00:56:37.309
over it because they think if we are disrespectful to them,
1055
00:56:37.730 --> 00:56:41.969
they will wind up not being trans kids. Which is
1056
00:56:42.070 --> 00:56:46.250
not how this has ever, ever worked. Nope. Yeah, you
1057
00:56:46.289 --> 00:56:48.570
cause a lot of heartache and tears. You will cause
1058
00:56:48.610 --> 00:56:51.230
your children to hate you. But you're never going to
1059
00:56:51.989 --> 00:56:55.710
accomplish what you want with this bullshit. Right. If you
1060
00:56:55.769 --> 00:56:59.030
want to go down the Jesus trail with whatever bullshit
1061
00:56:59.070 --> 00:57:01.869
you're doing, go right ahead. But when you take your
1062
00:57:01.909 --> 00:57:05.289
children with you, not everyone has to go. Yeah. Anyway,
1063
00:57:05.329 --> 00:57:07.489
a lot of the teachers are just saying they won't comply.
1064
00:57:07.570 --> 00:57:10.610
And I have heard that privately from several teachers, and good.
1065
00:57:10.989 --> 00:57:11.190
Yeah.
1066
00:57:11.889 --> 00:57:17.329
Because I've also heard teachers tell me that they fear
1067
00:57:17.969 --> 00:57:21.329
having to stop children from talking in the future. Right.
1068
00:57:21.530 --> 00:57:25.219
Please don't tell me what you're about to tell me. Right. Exactly. Yeah.
1069
00:57:25.699 --> 00:57:28.920
I can't know it. Right. And that just creates more shame,
1070
00:57:30.739 --> 00:57:38.199
more angst, more hopelessness in this world for trans kids.
1071
00:57:39.059 --> 00:57:41.929
It's like, oh, this person that I thought I could trust,
1072
00:57:42.230 --> 00:57:43.429
I can't even go to them now.
1073
00:57:45.130 --> 00:57:49.530
There is no Maryland or federal law explicitly requiring dead
1074
00:57:49.590 --> 00:57:52.380
naming students. That's just something they throw in for shits
1075
00:57:52.429 --> 00:57:58.099
and giggles. Right. Yeah. The union president told union members
1076
00:57:58.260 --> 00:58:01.639
in an August 20 email that new guidance will begin
1077
00:58:01.699 --> 00:58:03.380
harming affected students immediately.
1078
00:58:04.139 --> 00:58:04.280
Yeah.
1079
00:58:04.489 --> 00:58:08.079
Well said. I mean, because it will. It's cruelty for
1080
00:58:08.099 --> 00:58:11.079
the sake of cruelty, which explains the United States of
1081
00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:11.900
America right now.
1082
00:58:12.059 --> 00:58:12.480
Well.
1083
00:58:12.780 --> 00:58:17.380
In large part. Certainly in the Republican Party. Cruelty for
1084
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:18.519
the sake of cruelty.
1085
00:58:18.820 --> 00:58:19.019
Yeah.
1086
00:58:19.300 --> 00:58:21.900
Nothing to do with science. Nothing to do with common sense.
1087
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.420
Nothing to do with equity or kindness.
1088
00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:26.880
What are those things again? It's been so long.
1089
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:30.820
Yeah, I remember. But I'm glad that there are teachers. Yeah, no.
1090
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:35.489
I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. Good. Like,
1091
00:58:35.530 --> 00:58:39.349
fuck y'all, fuck that. I mean, you know, much more
1092
00:58:39.409 --> 00:58:42.679
likely to hear this out of Maryland than Florida.
1093
00:58:43.409 --> 00:58:43.699
Right.
1094
00:58:44.380 --> 00:58:48.320
Where, yeah, you know, they go after teachers with pitchforks.
1095
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.519
But good. Mm-hmm. Good. Because I think Maryland is a
1096
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:56.940
state that will be more supportive. So it's just good
1097
00:58:56.980 --> 00:59:00.739
news to hear anyone publicly, like, say, this is crap. Right.
1098
00:59:00.940 --> 00:59:04.940
Because it all is. That is all the good news
1099
00:59:04.980 --> 00:59:09.519
we could find. Once again, and we looked, and we combed,
1100
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:13.250
and we kept looking. Yeah, that was what there was
1101
00:59:13.570 --> 00:59:16.449
to find. So, why don't we move on.
1102
00:59:18.050 --> 00:59:21.090
To the little segment that we love to call.
1103
00:59:21.110 --> 00:59:31.719
And we have things. We've got a few.
1104
00:59:32.340 --> 00:59:34.800
So this one I just saw today.
1105
00:59:34.820 --> 00:59:36.480
Uh-huh.
1106
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:43.250
So Kansas has this draconian anti-trans bathroom law.
1107
00:59:43.329 --> 00:59:46.110
Oh, yeah. Bathroom bill. Among other things.
1108
00:59:46.190 --> 00:59:46.349
Right.
1109
00:59:46.369 --> 00:59:48.170
You know, like taking away everyone's driver's license.
1110
00:59:48.409 --> 00:59:48.670
Right.
1111
00:59:48.750 --> 00:59:49.150
Et cetera.
1112
00:59:49.809 --> 00:59:52.570
And it came to a head at the Kansas State
1113
00:59:52.730 --> 00:59:57.550
Fair when all the cis women were And had to
1114
00:59:57.590 --> 00:59:59.530
stand in their own line.
1115
00:59:59.650 --> 01:00:02.170
The cis women who used to use the men's room. Right.
1116
01:00:02.530 --> 01:00:04.960
When the lines for the women's room were long.
1117
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:07.139
Which was always a common thing.
1118
01:00:07.219 --> 01:00:11.380
Absolutely it was. And nobody, everybody just peed for Christ's sake. Right.
1119
01:00:11.579 --> 01:00:13.900
Every festival, every fair, every concert.
1120
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:14.579
Oh my God.
1121
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:17.800
Yeah. When the line for the ladies room gets too long,
1122
01:00:17.820 --> 01:00:20.210
which it inevitably does, you'll always find women in the
1123
01:00:20.250 --> 01:00:21.510
men's room. That's just a thing.
1124
01:00:21.809 --> 01:00:25.889
Yeah. However, they will stand in long lines. Yes. as
1125
01:00:25.989 --> 01:00:30.210
signs warning them not to use the men's bathrooms, even
1126
01:00:30.389 --> 01:00:32.789
if those lines are significantly shorter. Mm-hmm.
1127
01:00:32.809 --> 01:00:34.989
Otherwise, they face fines and possibly jail time.
1128
01:00:35.050 --> 01:00:38.489
Yeah. Well, and I believe your neighbors can sue you. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
1129
01:00:38.809 --> 01:00:42.010
It's shit like that. Yep. And cis women are the
1130
01:00:42.090 --> 01:00:43.860
ones who will pay the price for what we're doing
1131
01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:44.519
to trans women.
1132
01:00:44.699 --> 01:00:44.880
Yep.
1133
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:49.420
They will pay it right alongside of us, and some
1134
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:53.460
more so. Uh-huh. Because- You know, we've already seen it
1135
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:55.619
time and time and time again, where it is a
1136
01:00:55.780 --> 01:01:01.360
cisgendered woman who is not traditionally feminine who gets harassed
1137
01:01:01.380 --> 01:01:04.239
for using the women's bathroom.
1138
01:01:04.530 --> 01:01:04.659
Uh-huh.
1139
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:05.570
Mm-hmm.
1140
01:01:06.090 --> 01:01:08.489
So part of me is like, damn, that's fucked up.
1141
01:01:08.690 --> 01:01:10.469
And then part of me is like, is your monkey
1142
01:01:10.570 --> 01:01:11.250
ass happy now?
1143
01:01:11.530 --> 01:01:13.750
Ha-ha. Mm-hmm.
1144
01:01:14.389 --> 01:01:16.489
Which is why it's in schadenfreude.
1145
01:01:17.090 --> 01:01:20.269
Yeah, well, I mean, I feel bad for some of them.
1146
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:23.679
But you know some of them support this shit. Until
1147
01:01:23.699 --> 01:01:25.289
it affects them, and then they go, wait a minute,
1148
01:01:25.349 --> 01:01:26.150
I didn't mean me.
1149
01:01:26.269 --> 01:01:28.690
That part, that part, that part. Wait a minute.
1150
01:01:28.929 --> 01:01:31.170
That's what I'm saying. Wait a minute. The leopards were
1151
01:01:31.210 --> 01:01:33.449
not supposed to eat my face. Right.
1152
01:01:33.570 --> 01:01:36.050
Mm-hmm. I just put on all my makeup, and now
1153
01:01:36.110 --> 01:01:39.010
I gotta cover up these tooth marks. Da fuck.
1154
01:01:40.179 --> 01:01:43.940
Da fuck indeed. So.
1155
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:44.639
Oh.
1156
01:01:45.340 --> 01:01:49.599
This tickled me all to pieces.
1157
01:01:49.820 --> 01:01:50.659
I know. So.
1158
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:56.849
MAGA merch retailers have admitted that they're doomed by Trump's economy,
1159
01:01:56.949 --> 01:01:59.429
especially the one selling the red hats.
1160
01:01:59.829 --> 01:02:00.449
Uh-huh.
1161
01:02:00.889 --> 01:02:02.250
Hee. Hee-hee-hee.
1162
01:02:02.929 --> 01:02:10.480
Hee-hee-hee-hee. Donald Whitey Taylor, 76, told the Wall Street Journal
1163
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:12.679
that the president's return to the White House has sent
1164
01:02:12.739 --> 01:02:23.239
profits plummeting at his Trumptown, USA store in Boones Mill, Virginia. Aw. Right. Aw.
1165
01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:29.590
It couldn't happen to nicer people. We covered a story
1166
01:02:30.590 --> 01:02:33.650
a while back about a store near us, well, sort
1167
01:02:33.690 --> 01:02:36.969
of near us, in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, in Benton, Salem,
1168
01:02:37.010 --> 01:02:40.309
that was closing. It was actually a brick-and-mortar Trump store.
1169
01:02:40.329 --> 01:02:41.750
Well, that's what the fuck y'all get.
1170
01:02:41.869 --> 01:02:42.969
And it had to close.
1171
01:02:43.269 --> 01:02:43.639
Good.
1172
01:02:43.949 --> 01:02:45.739
Yeah, good. Good.
1173
01:02:46.059 --> 01:02:48.320
If you have that much fucking hubris that you buy
1174
01:02:48.340 --> 01:02:51.179
a goddamn brick-and-mortar store for this bullshit. Mm-hmm.
1175
01:02:52.750 --> 01:02:57.869
You deserve everything you get. Do not have no time.
1176
01:02:57.949 --> 01:03:01.469
Do not make any money they used to make. Too bad.
1177
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:04.900
You can't afford the payment on your swastika.
1178
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:09.619
Right. Those are the ugliest fucking things.
1179
01:03:09.820 --> 01:03:11.059
There's not a shade.
1180
01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:14.519
They're called cyber trucks, right? That's the actual term for
1181
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:17.480
those things? The Tesla cyber truck? Yeah. Swastikas.
1182
01:03:17.539 --> 01:03:21.800
There's not a shade in God's rainbow spectrum. That can
1183
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:23.519
make those things look attractive.
1184
01:03:24.059 --> 01:03:25.219
No.
1185
01:03:25.260 --> 01:03:25.440
No.
1186
01:03:25.460 --> 01:03:28.380
They have a vaguely military flavor.
1187
01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:28.880
Uh-huh.
1188
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:33.480
Not to mention the fact that they look like a drawing. Right.
1189
01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:36.179
Of what will eventually be a truck. Or they look
1190
01:03:36.219 --> 01:03:39.929
like the thing that they would cover the prototypes with
1191
01:03:40.050 --> 01:03:41.929
so that you couldn't photograph them.
1192
01:03:42.230 --> 01:03:42.329
Right.
1193
01:03:42.349 --> 01:03:44.670
That I'm talking about. Yeah. That's what this looks like.
1194
01:03:45.070 --> 01:03:47.690
Like the box that you peel back to reveal the
1195
01:03:47.769 --> 01:03:50.199
actual vehicle. Except it's the vehicle.
1196
01:03:50.699 --> 01:03:53.570
It always looks like, you know, it's like in a
1197
01:03:53.619 --> 01:03:56.670
game and like it hasn't fully rendered yet. So it's
1198
01:03:56.710 --> 01:03:59.409
still like all boxy. Yeah. Right.
1199
01:03:59.510 --> 01:04:01.570
So anyway, they won't be able to make the payments
1200
01:04:01.630 --> 01:04:02.809
on this. Exactly.
1201
01:04:02.949 --> 01:04:04.889
Oh, well. This wasn't even about those, but they took
1202
01:04:04.929 --> 01:04:05.559
a hit anyway.
1203
01:04:05.619 --> 01:04:07.920
Fuck them. And last I had checked, I mean, maybe
1204
01:04:07.980 --> 01:04:10.940
it's changed, but the last I checked, Teslas were selling
1205
01:04:11.059 --> 01:04:11.960
used for pennies.
1206
01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:14.510
Mm-hmm. Ugh. Remember?
1207
01:04:14.630 --> 01:04:15.750
And good.
1208
01:04:15.769 --> 01:04:17.489
Those used to be like a symbol of like.
1209
01:04:17.510 --> 01:04:21.829
A symbol of progressive values and caring about the environment.
1210
01:04:21.849 --> 01:04:23.300
I care about the environment.
1211
01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:26.460
Right. Right. And now people are like, nope. Nope. Not
1212
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:28.960
as long as that monster is attached to it. Right.
1213
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:30.980
I feel bad for the people that bought their Teslas
1214
01:04:31.019 --> 01:04:33.019
like years before we found out what a piece of
1215
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:34.480
shit Elon Musk was.
1216
01:04:34.579 --> 01:04:34.889
I know.
1217
01:04:35.530 --> 01:04:38.849
And so like, they're catching strays.
1218
01:04:39.260 --> 01:04:40.960
Yeah, I mean, we have a neighbor that has one
1219
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:43.579
that they've had for many years, and they have solar panels.
1220
01:04:43.619 --> 01:04:47.460
I mean, I think truly their deal is environmental.
1221
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:48.900
Yeah.
1222
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:50.119
Sorry about that.
1223
01:04:50.300 --> 01:04:52.960
If you have a Tesla that's like 10 years old,
1224
01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:54.219
we ain't talking about you.
1225
01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:58.880
Probably not. But yeah, no, anyway, they're not making money
1226
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:03.829
selling MAGA shit made in China anymore. Well... Not making
1227
01:05:03.849 --> 01:05:06.719
the money they were making. And, you know, it is happening. Like,
1228
01:05:06.780 --> 01:05:12.320
it's finally bad enough that it's really hitting the folks who,
1229
01:05:12.699 --> 01:05:15.599
for some bizarre reason, thought a reality television star was
1230
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:18.960
going to, you know, take them to the promised land,
1231
01:05:19.099 --> 01:05:21.730
and the promised land is not what they were hoping.
1232
01:05:22.010 --> 01:05:22.150
Yeah.
1233
01:05:22.710 --> 01:05:24.409
Yeah, and they've got measles to boot.
1234
01:05:25.090 --> 01:05:25.210
Mm-hmm.
1235
01:05:26.610 --> 01:05:31.369
Oh, so you added this. It is kind of delicious,
1236
01:05:31.610 --> 01:05:37.199
I guess. Yes. But, again, the problem is men. Cis men. Shocker.
1237
01:05:37.420 --> 01:05:41.659
Heated rivalry has spurred some straight women. I wonder who
1238
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:43.760
got the idea to write this in Queerty. But anyway,
1239
01:05:44.050 --> 01:05:48.909
spurred straight women to leave their emotionally devoid husbands in droves,
1240
01:05:49.469 --> 01:05:51.869
it says. I don't know how true this is, but
1241
01:05:51.909 --> 01:05:55.869
I like the headline. Nine months after its premiere, the
1242
01:05:55.929 --> 01:05:59.389
reverberations of heated rivalry are still being felt like a
1243
01:05:59.510 --> 01:06:02.170
slap shot that dings the post.
1244
01:06:03.150 --> 01:06:03.309
Mm-hmm.
1245
01:06:03.530 --> 01:06:05.510
That's some kind of sports reference. I guess that means
1246
01:06:05.570 --> 01:06:10.739
it didn't go in. Right. God. A slap shot that
1247
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:18.340
dings the post. Sounds like the president, doesn't it? Anyway,
1248
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:21.579
in particular, many of the show's female fans are taking
1249
01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:25.320
stock of their marriages and not liking what they see.
1250
01:06:26.300 --> 01:06:31.559
They yearn for the passion that, is it Ilya and Shane? Yes.
1251
01:06:31.860 --> 01:06:35.710
Have for each other. realizing the flames in their romantic
1252
01:06:35.769 --> 01:06:40.510
relationships have been extinguished long ago, if they ever existed
1253
01:06:41.210 --> 01:06:44.869
at all. Wow. So it was Elle magazine that published
1254
01:06:44.909 --> 01:06:47.510
a recent story about some of these women who say
1255
01:06:47.550 --> 01:06:50.769
the show highlights their husband's lack of investment. It's not
1256
01:06:50.869 --> 01:06:53.889
just that Shane and Ilya are two studs in their
1257
01:06:54.380 --> 01:06:57.110
20s who have a lot of hot sex. They care
1258
01:06:57.179 --> 01:07:01.940
about each other, determined to make Their relationship worked despite
1259
01:07:01.980 --> 01:07:05.940
the myriad obstacles around them. The women quoted in the
1260
01:07:05.980 --> 01:07:09.960
story say their husbands don't show any such dedication towards them.
1261
01:07:10.460 --> 01:07:12.539
Because men know talk feelings good.
1262
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.619
Right. And they probably don't like women anyway. Well. You
1263
01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:17.449
married him. That part.
1264
01:07:18.219 --> 01:07:20.829
You knew what Cro-Magnon-ass motherfucker you married?
1265
01:07:22.690 --> 01:07:24.690
She thought he would change. And she really wanted a
1266
01:07:24.710 --> 01:07:31.690
pretty wedding. And it was time. Go ahead. I'm just... Hey.
1267
01:07:33.530 --> 01:07:37.260
After watching the finale, when Shane and Ilya literally drive
1268
01:07:37.340 --> 01:07:41.380
off into the sunset, Annie came to the realization that
1269
01:07:41.460 --> 01:07:44.420
she settled for less and returns home to a partner
1270
01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:49.340
who doesn't care about her anymore. Louise, the 40-year-old mother
1271
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:53.429
from the UK, admits the show forced her to reevaluate
1272
01:07:53.860 --> 01:07:58.380
her romantic life. She found it was non-existent. It made
1273
01:07:58.420 --> 01:08:01.019
me start looking at my own relationship and how I
1274
01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:04.079
had become a mother and maid to a man I
1275
01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:08.210
had no passion toward. And who had no passion toward me,
1276
01:08:08.849 --> 01:08:09.289
she said.
1277
01:08:09.929 --> 01:08:11.929
I mean, your clue should have been when you said,
1278
01:08:12.030 --> 01:08:13.269
I do, and he went, uh.
1279
01:08:14.190 --> 01:08:18.529
This is like when housewives discovered Valium in the 50s.
1280
01:08:18.569 --> 01:08:25.000
Mama's Little Helper. Mama's Little Helper, yeah. Wasn't it Valium? No, yeah. Valium, yeah. Okay. Anyway.
1281
01:08:25.619 --> 01:08:28.420
While it may seem surprising that a gay male romance
1282
01:08:28.500 --> 01:08:32.020
would cause straight women to rethink their relationships, I don't
1283
01:08:32.060 --> 01:08:33.829
find that surprising at all.
1284
01:08:33.949 --> 01:08:34.750
No.
1285
01:08:34.829 --> 01:08:38.489
Heated Rivalry has had a passionate female fan base from
1286
01:08:38.529 --> 01:08:43.689
the start. HBO and Nielsen Data show that women comprise
1287
01:08:43.770 --> 01:08:48.159
roughly two-thirds of the show's audience. How about that? Mm-hmm.
1288
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:50.779
How about that? Yeah.
1289
01:08:51.260 --> 01:08:55.069
And all the quote-unquote straight guys who were calling it
1290
01:08:55.149 --> 01:08:56.010
their hockey show.
1291
01:08:57.890 --> 01:09:02.850
Whatever. And it's a shit. It's not even a great depiction.
1292
01:09:02.869 --> 01:09:05.829
I mean, it's a kind of a fucked up depiction, really,
1293
01:09:07.310 --> 01:09:08.689
of so much.
1294
01:09:08.890 --> 01:09:10.189
But it's better than what they had.
1295
01:09:10.229 --> 01:09:12.829
But when they look at, I guess, right. And it's
1296
01:09:12.970 --> 01:09:18.350
interesting that they look at that and would go, oh, God,
1297
01:09:19.069 --> 01:09:22.029
I have nothing. Which probably you don't. You probably don't
1298
01:09:22.050 --> 01:09:23.250
wash his ass because it's gay.
1299
01:09:23.689 --> 01:09:24.189
Thank you.
1300
01:09:24.310 --> 01:09:24.689
Whatever.
1301
01:09:25.489 --> 01:09:26.510
When you said painter.
1302
01:09:27.170 --> 01:09:27.390
Yeah.
1303
01:09:28.010 --> 01:09:29.890
I giggled because I'm like, because you know the straight
1304
01:09:29.930 --> 01:09:32.100
boys are notorious for painting. Mm-hmm.
1305
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:38.920
Yes, they are. Yes, they are. Speaking of painting.
1306
01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:42.880
I'm scared to hear what's coming next.
1307
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:48.109
Go ahead. Milo Yiannopoulos' black husband. Oh, God. Accuses him
1308
01:09:48.170 --> 01:09:50.859
of shocking. Oh. I am not shocked.
1309
01:09:51.220 --> 01:09:51.359
No?
1310
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:55.340
Racism, enslavement, and abuse.
1311
01:09:56.380 --> 01:10:00.930
So the house faggot and the house ninja didn't work out.
1312
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:05.930
Did not work out together anyway. Shocker. Yes. Apparently, he
1313
01:10:05.970 --> 01:10:09.590
called his husband the N-word, told him to sleep in
1314
01:10:09.630 --> 01:10:15.270
a basement, and threatened to kill him. I believe all
1315
01:10:15.289 --> 01:10:17.869
of this. Oh, yeah. Entirely. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
1316
01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:21.479
This is probably the sanitized version of what happened.
1317
01:10:21.500 --> 01:10:25.300
I dated someone. He loosely reminds me of someone I
1318
01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:25.939
once dated.
1319
01:10:26.470 --> 01:10:28.689
Milo Yiannopoulos.
1320
01:10:28.810 --> 01:10:31.430
Visually. Oh, oh. Just visually, but.
1321
01:10:31.449 --> 01:10:32.630
I was going to say, goddamn.
1322
01:10:32.670 --> 01:10:35.909
But, you know, I hold the money, so I hold
1323
01:10:35.949 --> 01:10:39.220
the power, kind of an ideal. I can see heaven
1324
01:10:39.270 --> 01:10:42.439
coming from that person, too. Which we did. That's why
1325
01:10:42.479 --> 01:10:46.619
we didn't do it. Anyway, John McKinley Campbell, who is
1326
01:10:46.619 --> 01:10:55.750
42 years old, and the estranged husband of anti-LGBTQ plus, quote, ex-gay,
1327
01:10:56.710 --> 01:11:01.720
mega provocateur. Is that the word?
1328
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:02.520
Provocateur.
1329
01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:03.840
Milo Yiannopoulos.
1330
01:11:03.859 --> 01:11:05.939
Which is a nice way of saying trifling ass bitch.
1331
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:10.260
Go ahead. He has accused Milo of violence and racist
1332
01:11:10.340 --> 01:11:17.100
abuse during their nine-year marriage, according to divorce court filings.
1333
01:11:18.170 --> 01:11:21.189
cited by the Daily Mail, which is a tabloid.
1334
01:11:21.850 --> 01:11:24.140
So what was like eight and a half years, the
1335
01:11:24.449 --> 01:11:27.060
statute of limitations for the prenup or whatever the fuck?
1336
01:11:27.180 --> 01:11:31.260
I don't know. Milo, who was recently deported from the U.S.
1337
01:11:31.979 --> 01:11:36.279
back to Britain, denied Campbell's claims, calling them fabrications and
1338
01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:39.869
manipulations designed to extract millions of dollars from me.
1339
01:11:40.109 --> 01:11:40.630
Oh, girl.
1340
01:11:40.949 --> 01:11:41.789
I hope he gets them.
1341
01:11:41.989 --> 01:11:42.109
Mm-hmm.
1342
01:11:42.189 --> 01:11:43.949
Are they married?
1343
01:11:43.970 --> 01:11:44.989
That would be reparations.
1344
01:11:45.850 --> 01:11:50.939
Thank you. They married on September 30th, 2017 in Hawaii
1345
01:11:51.659 --> 01:11:55.770
and stayed married for nine years. But in a 2021 video,
1346
01:11:55.930 --> 01:12:06.090
Yiannopoulos allegedly filmed himself, allegedly, throwing his $ 150, 000 engagement, quote.
1347
01:12:06.250 --> 01:12:10.770
Sodomy stone. Which sounds like a different thing altogether.
1348
01:12:10.789 --> 01:12:14.510
It does, doesn't it? A sodomy stone into the ocean
1349
01:12:15.069 --> 01:12:19.149
to prove He's now ex-gay.
1350
01:12:19.829 --> 01:12:22.069
Sodomy stones are like something that happens to you.
1351
01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:24.569
It does, doesn't it?
1352
01:12:24.579 --> 01:12:26.699
That you gotta go get taken care of.
1353
01:12:26.859 --> 01:12:31.520
Right. Right. What's the matter, baby? Sodomy stones.
1354
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:34.140
There's an ointment for that.
1355
01:12:34.420 --> 01:12:40.170
I doubt it. I doubt it. Try fiber. That's why
1356
01:12:40.210 --> 01:12:42.090
they put those beads on a string, honey.
1357
01:12:42.189 --> 01:12:50.159
That... If it doesn't have a flared base, say no, children.
1358
01:12:52.869 --> 01:12:55.649
Just, yeah, have a way to retrieve it so you
1359
01:12:55.710 --> 01:13:01.130
don't wind up in the hospital archives. Anyway, yeah, screenshots
1360
01:13:01.250 --> 01:13:05.189
of the divorce court filing show a February text message
1361
01:13:05.329 --> 01:13:10.409
in which Yiannopoulos allegedly wrote to Campbell, fuck you, stupid,
1362
01:13:10.590 --> 01:13:15.119
worthless N-word. I hope you rot in hell with your
1363
01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:20.390
monkey ancestors. I was only using you for a green
1364
01:13:20.470 --> 01:13:23.829
card in the first place. I believe you wrote that.
1365
01:13:23.949 --> 01:13:25.270
Oh, hell yeah.
1366
01:13:26.590 --> 01:13:28.909
Anyone who thinks they're an ex-gay and that that's a
1367
01:13:28.930 --> 01:13:32.850
real thing is capable of any. If you're going to
1368
01:13:32.869 --> 01:13:37.220
tell yourself that lie, then you're capable of any lie.
1369
01:13:38.819 --> 01:13:39.920
Any lie whatsoever.
1370
01:13:40.140 --> 01:13:40.720
Yep.
1371
01:13:40.840 --> 01:13:48.079
Yep. So, yeah, whatever. I absolutely believe that's authentic. They
1372
01:13:48.100 --> 01:13:53.380
reportedly described the marriage as enslavement, not matrimony. I mean, uh-huh.
1373
01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:54.260
I bet you there was.
1374
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:57.430
Of course, you stayed. The reason you put this in Schadenfreude,
1375
01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:02.250
I'm going to guess, is because the husband did not
1376
01:14:02.329 --> 01:14:09.119
think the leopard was going to eat his face. That part. Yeah. So... Ninja, please.
1377
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:11.529
I like salty crackers. What could go wrong?
1378
01:14:11.930 --> 01:14:13.649
Is what you meant to, right?
1379
01:14:13.829 --> 01:14:14.409
Yeah.
1380
01:14:14.489 --> 01:14:15.409
That's the category.
1381
01:14:15.449 --> 01:14:17.390
Like, what did you think was going to happen?
1382
01:14:17.810 --> 01:14:19.050
What did you expect?
1383
01:14:20.210 --> 01:14:21.560
You silly little Negro.
1384
01:14:21.569 --> 01:14:24.800
Yeah.
1385
01:14:25.100 --> 01:14:27.539
And nine years ago, you knew who the fuck Milo
1386
01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:30.239
Yiannopoulos was. So fuck you for marrying him in the
1387
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:31.420
first goddamn place.
1388
01:14:32.100 --> 01:14:32.810
Uh-huh.
1389
01:14:34.670 --> 01:14:38.369
Uh-huh. You deserve your black card not only taken from you,
1390
01:14:38.390 --> 01:14:39.880
but you deserve to be beaten with it.
1391
01:14:40.529 --> 01:14:47.760
Well... In September of 2025, now this is four years
1392
01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:51.140
after he called himself an ex-gay, just saying, locked me
1393
01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:54.739
out of our marital home four years after he... Anyway.
1394
01:14:55.840 --> 01:14:59.859
And revoked access to funds for everyday living, rendering me
1395
01:14:59.960 --> 01:15:04.270
utterly homeless for a period of over 90 days. I
1396
01:15:04.310 --> 01:15:04.750
believe that.
1397
01:15:05.050 --> 01:15:06.159
Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah.
1398
01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:11.399
Of course, Milo's calling the text messages forgeries.
1399
01:15:11.899 --> 01:15:15.439
There's not a single bad thing you could accuse Milo
1400
01:15:15.500 --> 01:15:16.899
Yiannopoulos of that I won't believe.
1401
01:15:17.020 --> 01:15:17.239
Right.
1402
01:15:17.300 --> 01:15:17.880
Wholeheartedly.
1403
01:15:18.060 --> 01:15:23.220
Fantastical and false. He claimed to have given $ 5. 5 million
1404
01:15:23.619 --> 01:15:25.920
to Campbell in gifts and financial assistance.
1405
01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:26.359
Mm-hmm.
1406
01:15:27.090 --> 01:15:29.529
And accused him of being in the grip of a
1407
01:15:29.569 --> 01:15:34.430
mental health crisis, for which he wrongly and regrettably blames me.
1408
01:15:34.930 --> 01:15:35.050
Mm-hmm.
1409
01:15:35.579 --> 01:15:38.439
Basically. You know what?
1410
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:40.159
That's all the syphilis and crystal.
1411
01:15:40.979 --> 01:15:43.239
Hey. Syphilis and crystal.
1412
01:15:44.390 --> 01:15:45.210
Thursdays at 8.
1413
01:15:45.210 --> 01:15:49.590
It sounds like, yeah, Rizzoli and Isles. That's what I
1414
01:15:49.609 --> 01:15:53.130
was just saying. Syphilis and crystal? Go on an adventure.
1415
01:15:55.310 --> 01:16:08.850
I'm picturing. Syphilis holds the large magnifying glass. Never mind. Yeah. So,
1416
01:16:09.649 --> 01:16:12.090
you know, for all of it, I hope your husband
1417
01:16:12.109 --> 01:16:16.449
gets all of your money. But I don't.
1418
01:16:16.250 --> 01:16:18.260
Because that would be something good happening to him.
1419
01:16:18.270 --> 01:16:21.770
What were you thinking? That part. You married that. Yeah.
1420
01:16:22.010 --> 01:16:24.909
I mean, if I'm reading this correctly, God only knows.
1421
01:16:25.630 --> 01:16:30.619
You kept living with him after he was an ex-gay. Uh-huh. Right?
1422
01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:33.520
So where's the ex part? Hmm.
1423
01:16:34.939 --> 01:16:36.659
You were the self-hating side piece.
1424
01:16:36.699 --> 01:16:37.699
So ridiculous.
1425
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:40.189
Yeah. It's like, I'm not going to go as far
1426
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:42.310
as say I wish ill upon either of these people,
1427
01:16:42.350 --> 01:16:45.789
but I actively don't wish them well. How about that?
1428
01:16:45.930 --> 01:16:50.170
I know. I know. Let's not forget he also talked
1429
01:16:50.210 --> 01:16:53.449
about how child sex abuse can be perfectly consensual and
1430
01:16:53.510 --> 01:16:57.659
a positive experience for the victim. Yeah, he did say that.
1431
01:16:57.739 --> 01:17:00.060
He gives pieces of shit bad names.
1432
01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:05.260
He does. And then he converted to Catholicism, announced he
1433
01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:11.300
was no longer gay, was Kanye's, you know, associated with
1434
01:17:11.340 --> 01:17:13.539
that presidential campaign and that person.
1435
01:17:13.560 --> 01:17:13.739
Yep.
1436
01:17:15.529 --> 01:17:21.409
When he was, when Ye, Ye, whatever, was openly supporting Nazism.
1437
01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:26.359
Yeah. Ironically, he was called Ye when he was booed
1438
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:27.420
everywhere he went.
1439
01:17:29.420 --> 01:17:29.720
Yeah.
1440
01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:35.819
And that's as colorful and broad and detailed as my
1441
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:41.760
vocabulary is, I don't have the words to express how
1442
01:17:41.819 --> 01:17:43.659
much I can't stand Milo Yiannopoulos.
1443
01:17:44.260 --> 01:17:47.170
I caught that. Yeah, every time his name comes up,
1444
01:17:47.229 --> 01:17:47.829
I've caught that.
1445
01:17:48.449 --> 01:17:49.550
It's like, oh my God.
1446
01:17:49.850 --> 01:17:54.829
It's true. Like... Oh, well, yeah, he's the worst of it.
1447
01:17:54.949 --> 01:17:58.970
I mean, but this is what happens with self-loathing gays
1448
01:17:59.010 --> 01:18:00.010
who find a platform.
1449
01:18:00.170 --> 01:18:03.229
Yeah, he is a horrible, trifling, low-life faggot.
1450
01:18:03.310 --> 01:18:06.569
You know, it's happening with trans people who, like, you know,
1451
01:18:06.689 --> 01:18:09.600
detransition or detransition for a bit, who wind up with
1452
01:18:09.619 --> 01:18:12.300
the love bombs of the right and who, you know,
1453
01:18:12.380 --> 01:18:14.840
get used for their political agenda and all that bullshit.
1454
01:18:15.539 --> 01:18:18.380
And like, but they loved me. Yeah.
1455
01:18:19.020 --> 01:18:21.729
You know how shitty of a faggot Milo Yiannopoulos is?
1456
01:18:21.970 --> 01:18:25.329
He makes Perez Hilton look like an upstanding human being.
1457
01:18:25.750 --> 01:18:27.510
And that's hard to do. I know.
1458
01:18:27.529 --> 01:18:29.750
Because that's the triflingest faggot that ever.
1459
01:18:30.149 --> 01:18:31.979
I know. But do you think they ever got together?
1460
01:18:31.989 --> 01:18:32.819
I think they might have.
1461
01:18:32.859 --> 01:18:33.810
Would not surprise me.
1462
01:18:33.819 --> 01:18:36.560
Yeah, wouldn't surprise me at all. Would not surprise me
1463
01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:36.960
at all.
1464
01:18:37.560 --> 01:18:39.680
They probably both said the N-word when they came.
1465
01:18:40.199 --> 01:18:42.279
Syphilis and crystal. Talk about something.
1466
01:18:42.300 --> 01:18:43.319
That's syphilis and crystal.
1467
01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:46.579
And they probably did both say the N-word. To Milo's husband.
1468
01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:49.189
Who was in the corner watching.
1469
01:18:55.460 --> 01:18:58.640
Watching them not be gay. Together.
1470
01:18:59.510 --> 01:19:02.569
Hold the camera higher, Darkie. Oh, gosh.
1471
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:05.899
That is not the title of this episode. I don't
1472
01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:15.119
care what you say. We will not. We will not. Oh, shit.
1473
01:19:15.180 --> 01:19:17.380
On that note, this has been your moment of....
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01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:29.979
Oh, my God.
1475
01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:34.340
It sounds like it's time for a composure break. So
1476
01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:37.000
do you have this? Are you okay now?
1477
01:19:37.220 --> 01:19:39.060
I will be.
1478
01:19:39.189 --> 01:19:39.550
Okay, good.
1479
01:19:39.590 --> 01:19:40.170
I will be.
1480
01:19:40.670 --> 01:19:42.829
Do you have a 15-minute fave that you would like
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01:19:42.890 --> 01:19:43.390
to share?
1482
01:19:43.409 --> 01:19:45.670
I do.
1483
01:19:47.590 --> 01:19:49.989
Okay. Go ahead.
1484
01:19:50.590 --> 01:19:54.100
So this is actually going to be the first Portuguese
1485
01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:57.520
language song on the 15-minute faves playlist.
1486
01:19:58.060 --> 01:19:58.420
Okay.
1487
01:19:58.659 --> 01:20:01.579
Yeah, I just discovered it the other night on one
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01:20:01.619 --> 01:20:04.640
of my drives to work. It is called Eça de Quente,
1489
01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:06.600
which means this one is hot.
1490
01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:07.899
Uh-huh.
1491
01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:13.739
And it's by Chase and Status featuring Skrillex. It's funky
1492
01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:18.880
and it's dancey and it's in Portuguese. So, you know,
1493
01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:22.119
it's automatically good and sexy.
1494
01:20:22.600 --> 01:20:25.770
Okay. So we'll go out to the break with that. Sure.
1495
01:20:26.010 --> 01:20:26.649
What's it called again?
1496
01:20:27.170 --> 01:20:27.970
This is from Kenji.
1497
01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:55.569
Segura, mas tá quente Essa tá quente, raparada, mais pra
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01:20:55.609 --> 01:20:57.149
frente Não tá, não.
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01:20:56.989 --> 01:20:59.850
Pende Segura, mas tá quente Essa tá.
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01:20:59.750 --> 01:21:03.489
Quente, raparada, mais pra frente Não tá, não pende Segura,
1501
01:21:03.529 --> 01:21:06.960
mas tá quente Essa tá quente, raparada, mais pra frente
1502
01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:09.300
Não tá, não pende Segura, mas.
1503
01:21:09.180 --> 01:21:13.279
Tá quente Essa tá quente, raparada, mais pra frente Não tá,
1504
01:21:13.319 --> 01:21:13.920
não pende.
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01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:17.119
Outro Music.
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01:22:00.609 --> 01:22:01.630
And we're back.
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01:22:02.020 --> 01:22:03.380
We're back.
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01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:04.399
That was kicky.
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01:22:05.720 --> 01:22:06.239
Exactly.
1510
01:22:06.340 --> 01:22:09.579
That was slinging my ass a bit. I noticed. So
1511
01:22:09.619 --> 01:22:12.180
many of these just bear a quick mention, but I
1512
01:22:12.220 --> 01:22:15.140
do want to get into this one a little bit
1513
01:22:15.199 --> 01:22:19.460
because it is important and it's something that's happening right now.
1514
01:22:20.500 --> 01:22:21.699
For what segment?
1515
01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:25.760
I don't care.
1516
01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:31.170
Let's speed through this shit. I wrote it down as
1517
01:22:31.189 --> 01:22:33.789
the cavalcade of nonsense. Speed run. Let's do it.
1518
01:22:34.029 --> 01:22:37.329
Let's try to do that. So equality organizations are struggling
1519
01:22:37.409 --> 01:22:44.180
over how you handle anti-trans Democrat endorsements. Amy Acton is
1520
01:22:44.220 --> 01:22:47.279
the first one I want to talk about, who is
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01:22:47.340 --> 01:22:51.180
the Democratic nominee for governor of Ohio. And she has
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01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:57.430
officially called trans girls boys, embraced sports bands as a
1523
01:22:57.449 --> 01:23:03.539
matter of safety, Sending Ohio's premier LGBTQ plus organization, Equality Ohio,
1524
01:23:03.939 --> 01:23:09.000
flailing to find its next steps. I'll bet. And the HRC,
1525
01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:16.090
long problematic and often the house faggot of national organizations,
1526
01:23:16.250 --> 01:23:20.729
released a list of dozens of candidates it endorses, multiple
1527
01:23:20.829 --> 01:23:25.729
of whom took anti-trans votes or made anti-trans statements before
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01:23:25.970 --> 01:23:28.130
and after their endorsements.
1529
01:23:28.250 --> 01:23:28.449
Uh-huh.
1530
01:23:28.850 --> 01:23:31.810
Yeah, they don't care. They think that it's just fine.
1531
01:23:32.489 --> 01:23:37.399
The HRC is one more organization who, you know, it's nuanced.
1532
01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:41.579
You say it's nuanced. You've got to sacrifice a trainee
1533
01:23:41.619 --> 01:23:45.829
here and there. Who cares? Yeah, so the organizations are
1534
01:23:45.850 --> 01:23:49.090
scrambling on how do we hold these people accountable. You know,
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01:23:49.689 --> 01:23:54.970
organizations were ill-prepared for the advent of Democrats. taking on
1536
01:23:55.010 --> 01:23:59.710
these anti-trans positions. Because it's basically Democrats giving credence to
1537
01:23:59.750 --> 01:24:02.489
this entire distraction. Instead of calling it what it is
1538
01:24:03.260 --> 01:24:07.199
and refusing to do this to trans people, they're jumping on.
1539
01:24:07.460 --> 01:24:10.960
It's the Gavin Newsom school of advocacy.
1540
01:24:11.159 --> 01:24:11.359
Yeah.
1541
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:15.800
I do not support boys playing in girls' sports. This
1542
01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:19.909
is already settled law in Ohio, grossly and wrongly so.
1543
01:24:20.369 --> 01:24:22.649
And as governor, I will enforce and uphold the law.
1544
01:24:23.289 --> 01:24:23.359
Mmm.
1545
01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:27.020
This bitch went on to say, as a doctor, God
1546
01:24:27.060 --> 01:24:31.300
knows what kind of doctor, evidently not one that understands medicine,
1547
01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:35.279
public servant and a mom, I will always stand up
1548
01:24:35.329 --> 01:24:38.710
for fairness and protect kids' health and safety. Except now.
1549
01:24:39.010 --> 01:24:40.729
Except where trans kids are concerned.
1550
01:24:40.869 --> 01:24:41.149
Right.
1551
01:24:41.430 --> 01:24:44.710
While my opponent tries to divide us, and you are
1552
01:24:44.770 --> 01:24:46.229
jumping on board, sister.
1553
01:24:46.710 --> 01:24:46.930
Who?
1554
01:24:47.050 --> 01:24:51.130
I'm laser focused on issues that matter most to Ohioans.
1555
01:24:52.140 --> 01:24:55.520
Lowering costs, cracking down on corruption, and cutting taxes for
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01:24:55.560 --> 01:24:58.560
working families. Fuck the trannies, is what she didn't say,
1557
01:24:58.739 --> 01:25:03.970
but it's implied. Well, uh-huh. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know,
1558
01:25:04.010 --> 01:25:06.130
caused a lot of debate. Many have called on her
1559
01:25:06.149 --> 01:25:08.390
to retract the words, which, of course, she has not done.
1560
01:25:09.090 --> 01:25:12.140
Equality Ohio pulled her A rating, changed it to pending.
1561
01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:16.739
Stating comments like the ones recently made by Amy Acton
1562
01:25:16.840 --> 01:25:22.529
in the Toledo Blade about transgender Ohioans are extremely harmful. Correct.
1563
01:25:22.989 --> 01:25:26.729
We have updated Dr. Acton's status in our candidate scorecard
1564
01:25:26.789 --> 01:25:32.470
from an A to pending. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. The state
1565
01:25:32.529 --> 01:25:38.920
Democratic Party has fought back, forcing the Progressive Caucus to
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01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:43.960
remove its statement criticizing Acton. And then they stonewalled the
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01:25:43.979 --> 01:25:44.779
Pride Caucus.
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01:25:45.180 --> 01:25:45.800
Of course they did.
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01:25:46.539 --> 01:25:51.340
Mm-hmm. Acton then released a pro-LGBTQ+, I just might as
1570
01:25:51.380 --> 01:25:54.960
well leave the T out, statement that conspicuously left out
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01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:58.439
gender identity and scheduled a meeting with transgender activists and
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01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:04.060
LGBTQ plus leaders that she did not attend. Of course.
1573
01:26:04.199 --> 01:26:04.520
Right.
1574
01:26:04.619 --> 01:26:07.859
She sent a campaign official in her place and trans
1575
01:26:08.010 --> 01:26:14.409
leaders in the state were barred from entering. Wow. Apparently
1576
01:26:14.449 --> 01:26:18.250
this is what Ohio wants in a governor. Yeah. Equality
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01:26:18.329 --> 01:26:22.010
Ohio itself has now relented, giving her a B, that
1578
01:26:22.090 --> 01:26:27.250
it defines as reflecting insufficient record but supportive public statements.
1579
01:26:28.670 --> 01:26:31.569
And there has been no retraction. B for bullshit.
1580
01:26:32.329 --> 01:26:32.789
Uh-huh.
1581
01:26:34.390 --> 01:26:38.439
Yeah. You know, I will never forget my parents saying
1582
01:26:38.520 --> 01:26:41.140
right's right and wrong's nobody, and this is just wrong.
1583
01:26:41.479 --> 01:26:41.920
Mm-hmm.
1584
01:26:42.659 --> 01:26:47.289
It's just wrong. But they'll do anything to win. And
1585
01:26:47.510 --> 01:26:50.510
this just, you know, this feeds into that idea. This
1586
01:26:50.590 --> 01:26:54.260
feeds into the apathetic voter. This feeds into that idea
1587
01:26:54.310 --> 01:26:56.479
that they're all the same. All they want is the
1588
01:26:56.520 --> 01:26:58.920
job so that they can, you know, they can collect
1589
01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:02.779
their own grift. You know, and they'll sell out anyone
1590
01:27:02.819 --> 01:27:05.520
to do it. You know, if it looks like this
1591
01:27:05.590 --> 01:27:06.390
is more expedient.
1592
01:27:06.699 --> 01:27:06.930
Right.
1593
01:27:07.170 --> 01:27:10.069
Their principles go right out the fucking window. Yeah.
1594
01:27:10.689 --> 01:27:10.930
Yeah.
1595
01:27:11.390 --> 01:27:13.350
And more and more Democrats are saying, what the fuck?
1596
01:27:13.829 --> 01:27:17.270
And when they win... They're emboldened, if they win.
1597
01:27:17.869 --> 01:27:18.470
Right.
1598
01:27:18.529 --> 01:27:21.560
Some have been primaried away, but it is not a
1599
01:27:21.640 --> 01:27:25.619
losing proposition to support trans people. It is not.
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01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:26.819
No.
1601
01:27:27.859 --> 01:27:35.390
But, yeah, get ahead. And, of course, when Equality Ohio
1602
01:27:36.010 --> 01:27:39.630
was asked about Acton barring the Pride Caucus vice chair
1603
01:27:39.710 --> 01:27:44.420
from the call, failing to appear at her own meeting, etc.,
1604
01:27:45.449 --> 01:27:48.850
Equality Ohio said, we recommend you speak to the acting
1605
01:27:48.890 --> 01:27:55.760
campaign directly about any meetings their team conducted. These comments
1606
01:27:55.800 --> 01:27:58.380
do not happen in a vacuum. They are part of
1607
01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:01.760
a broader pattern of politicians using trans people as a scapegoat.
1608
01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:08.720
Both sides now. Often based on data that's false. These
1609
01:28:08.779 --> 01:28:12.399
comments are harmful and a distraction from the issues most
1610
01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:17.739
voters want addressed. Right, but you're willing to jump onto
1611
01:28:17.779 --> 01:28:24.689
the distraction and endorse the lies that they're based on. Right. Yeah,
1612
01:28:24.909 --> 01:28:30.210
you'll do that. Anyway, Equality Ohio is telling us transphobia
1613
01:28:30.329 --> 01:28:34.819
isn't a big deal. Of course. And they're admitting their
1614
01:28:34.859 --> 01:28:39.659
scorecard is completely meaningless, which, of course, so is HRC's. Wow.
1615
01:28:40.319 --> 01:28:44.680
And they have posted a statement of candidate endorsements and
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01:28:44.739 --> 01:28:48.420
among them are others. One who voted for Nancy Mace's
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01:28:48.500 --> 01:28:52.800
amendment stripping gender affirming care from trans service members, etc.
1618
01:28:53.180 --> 01:28:55.550
One of only five Democrats to do so and who
1619
01:28:55.600 --> 01:28:58.770
cast that vote in July. What is this one's name?
1620
01:28:59.350 --> 01:29:04.970
Shomari figures. Three weeks after the HRC endorsed him, Suzie
1621
01:29:05.050 --> 01:29:09.390
Lee and Tom Swozy both voted for an amendment targeting
1622
01:29:09.430 --> 01:29:13.529
trans people in sports. Here's what HRC had to say.
1623
01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:15.539
This is the part I was trying to get to.
1624
01:29:16.060 --> 01:29:18.779
HRC's endorsements are made with a clear and overriding desire
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01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:21.140
to win a pro-equality Congress so we can halt the
1626
01:29:21.180 --> 01:29:25.699
assault on our community and push forward vital protections. History
1627
01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:28.310
tells us that if we were to constrain ourselves to
1628
01:29:28.550 --> 01:29:31.590
only endorsing candidates who never take a vote we oppose,
1629
01:29:31.949 --> 01:29:35.069
we would likely never make progress. Do you feel like
1630
01:29:35.090 --> 01:29:39.189
you're being jerked off yet? If not, hold on, there's more.
1631
01:29:39.930 --> 01:29:42.300
Our theory of change is that we need to meet
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01:29:42.350 --> 01:29:45.199
people where they are and move them towards support of
1633
01:29:45.260 --> 01:29:48.880
our community. To that end, we do work with candidates
1634
01:29:49.020 --> 01:29:52.000
and elected officials who have taken a vote contrary to
1635
01:29:52.180 --> 01:29:56.189
HRC's position and working to ensure they understand the impacts
1636
01:29:56.310 --> 01:30:01.189
while moving them toward greater support of the LGBTQ plus community.
1637
01:30:01.649 --> 01:30:04.409
This approach has helped pass bills like the Respect for
1638
01:30:04.449 --> 01:30:07.310
Marriage Act and the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr.
1639
01:30:07.350 --> 01:30:10.600
Hate Crimes Prevention Act into law, as well as stopping
1640
01:30:10.680 --> 01:30:14.300
dozens of legislative attacks since Trump returned to the White House.
1641
01:30:14.659 --> 01:30:17.460
That only happened because there were members of Congress willing
1642
01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:20.159
to learn and to stand up for trans people in
1643
01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:23.520
the face of political divisions and bigotry. This does not
1644
01:30:23.579 --> 01:30:26.100
mean that every person we endorse has a perfect record.
1645
01:30:26.140 --> 01:30:29.520
No shit. But they have demonstrated a support for transgender
1646
01:30:29.539 --> 01:30:35.039
people and equality more broadly. And of course, there have
1647
01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:37.680
been times when they have actually endorsed a Republican over
1648
01:30:37.720 --> 01:30:39.840
a queer candidate. So it's such bullshit.
1649
01:30:39.939 --> 01:30:40.239
Right.
1650
01:30:40.819 --> 01:30:43.300
I wonder if it has to do with their accounting.
1651
01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:44.560
I truly do.
1652
01:30:45.220 --> 01:30:46.539
I mean, that was where my mind went.
1653
01:30:47.250 --> 01:30:49.289
That wasn't written by a trans person, I can pretty
1654
01:30:49.310 --> 01:30:53.100
much assure you. And if it was, they need to
1655
01:30:53.109 --> 01:30:56.840
do some soul searching. That part. But these candidates have
1656
01:30:56.939 --> 01:31:00.960
not recanted. Of course not. Not their statements. Of course
1657
01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:04.520
not their anti-trans votes. And at least two cases, the
1658
01:31:04.560 --> 01:31:07.260
endorsements came first, and then they voted against us.
1659
01:31:08.430 --> 01:31:08.659
Yeah.
1660
01:31:09.699 --> 01:31:14.149
Equality organizations do exist to promote equality positions and candidates
1661
01:31:14.229 --> 01:31:18.979
that receive endorsements. gain the prestige and sometimes the resources
1662
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:23.300
that are going out to these organizations meant to protect
1663
01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:27.779
all LGBTQ plus rights. You know, I think that we
1664
01:31:27.819 --> 01:31:31.279
need to put significant pressure on these people. And this
1665
01:31:31.340 --> 01:31:35.000
article does go on to talk about that. Yeah, it's
1666
01:31:35.020 --> 01:31:37.239
already not a good time to be trans. But yeah,
1667
01:31:37.300 --> 01:31:41.140
this is just, it's gross. It is gross. Aaron in
1668
01:31:41.180 --> 01:31:44.699
the morning did place a guide to anti-trans Democrats in
1669
01:31:44.739 --> 01:31:48.899
the 2026 elections by state. And we can post that
1670
01:31:48.920 --> 01:31:52.920
in the show notes. So if you are interested, you
1671
01:31:52.979 --> 01:31:56.060
can look. Things are fucked up in Turkey. I'm talking
1672
01:31:56.079 --> 01:31:59.020
about the country. You know, the one in Greece. Yes.
1673
01:31:59.100 --> 01:32:03.279
Don't go there. Black IHOP workers sued a manager who
1674
01:32:03.319 --> 01:32:06.199
wore a monkey hat. I'm surprised she wasn't married to
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01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:08.859
Milo Yiannopoulos, but stay tuned, because I don't think his
1676
01:32:08.899 --> 01:32:12.579
divorce is finalized. But she was a fucking racist. And
1677
01:32:12.619 --> 01:32:14.079
kept her job, apparently.
1678
01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:14.859
Oh, yeah.
1679
01:32:15.140 --> 01:32:17.939
For a while. Like a shift manager. Bullshit at the IHOP.
1680
01:32:18.020 --> 01:32:21.380
She wore a monkey hat, mimicked whipping sounds during the shift,
1681
01:32:21.479 --> 01:32:22.859
called herself master.
1682
01:32:22.970 --> 01:32:23.119
Yeah.
1683
01:32:23.510 --> 01:32:25.789
And that's just a few of the things this woman
1684
01:32:25.810 --> 01:32:27.029
did to these poor black people.
1685
01:32:27.210 --> 01:32:28.770
I am surprised they didn't take her out back and
1686
01:32:29.329 --> 01:32:32.090
show her the dumpster. Well... And she kept her job.
1687
01:32:32.329 --> 01:32:35.590
Where was that? Where'd she work? Florida. Shocker.
1688
01:32:35.909 --> 01:32:38.229
Of course. Of course.
1689
01:32:38.430 --> 01:32:44.409
Shocker. So, anyway, IHOP is facing a lawsuit because of this.
1690
01:32:44.750 --> 01:32:49.720
The allegations that a former shift manager, white shift manager named...
1691
01:32:49.640 --> 01:32:53.020
We ain't gotta say her name. Okay. Was something else. I'm,
1692
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:57.340
you know... She said, if it ain't white, it ain't right. Yeah,
1693
01:32:57.500 --> 01:32:59.239
racist gonna racist. Mm-hmm.
1694
01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:01.239
And she did. Mm-hmm.
1695
01:33:01.550 --> 01:33:01.890
So.
1696
01:33:02.050 --> 01:33:05.510
Speaking of ain't white and ain't right, Rachel Dolezal.
1697
01:33:07.289 --> 01:33:07.970
She is white.
1698
01:33:08.100 --> 01:33:10.109
I know, but she ain't right.
1699
01:33:10.859 --> 01:33:15.119
She is not right. And you put this here, so apparently.
1700
01:33:15.140 --> 01:33:21.180
Oh, yeah. So now Rachel Dolezal, famous for being a
1701
01:33:21.420 --> 01:33:23.460
white woman who poses a black person.
1702
01:33:23.739 --> 01:33:28.500
And worked at a pretty high level for the NAACP, correct? Yeah.
1703
01:33:28.560 --> 01:33:30.420
Until she was found out. Yeah.
1704
01:33:30.779 --> 01:33:34.090
She's changing her career now. to uh be a sex
1705
01:33:34.149 --> 01:33:38.850
coach she says now that she's a certified sex coach
1706
01:33:39.310 --> 01:33:43.239
so that means that she's now qualified to teach other
1707
01:33:43.260 --> 01:33:44.579
people how to fake.
1708
01:33:44.460 --> 01:33:48.520
It there you go there you go she did have
1709
01:33:48.539 --> 01:33:50.779
a teaching job for a while until they found her
1710
01:33:50.859 --> 01:33:54.319
only fans and then that didn't work that part i
1711
01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:57.800
don't think was necessary to like how do you say
1712
01:33:57.819 --> 01:34:01.840
her new name oh yeah nakachi diallo yeah Okay, so
1713
01:34:01.880 --> 01:34:05.500
that's Rachel Dolezal's new name and her new career as
1714
01:34:05.579 --> 01:34:09.439
a sex therapist. So apparently she bought herself a cap
1715
01:34:09.500 --> 01:34:12.319
and gown and a red sash and wore it with
1716
01:34:12.359 --> 01:34:15.930
fishnets and said she graduated. She got her certificate as
1717
01:34:16.010 --> 01:34:22.670
a certified sex coach. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Yeah, so it sounds
1718
01:34:22.689 --> 01:34:28.050
like a website thing. She graduated from the Sexology Institute,
1719
01:34:28.149 --> 01:34:34.130
a company offering a comprehensive sex coaching training course, per
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01:34:34.189 --> 01:34:38.489
its website. Girl, bye. And she's accepting new clients. I
1721
01:34:38.529 --> 01:34:45.119
bet she is. Whatever. So she's still out there. She's
1722
01:34:45.140 --> 01:34:46.380
still out there doing the thing.
1723
01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:52.920
So, converse. Girl, what is you doing?
1724
01:34:53.800 --> 01:34:56.539
I didn't see what you saw, but then I don't
1725
01:34:56.779 --> 01:34:59.760
look at ads that closely. But now that you pointed
1726
01:34:59.960 --> 01:35:01.880
out what you saw, I see it.
1727
01:35:02.159 --> 01:35:07.050
Yeah. So Converse claims that their new ad is not
1728
01:35:07.369 --> 01:35:12.689
depicting a lynching at the hands of the Klan. But
1729
01:35:13.229 --> 01:35:16.850
that's immediately what I saw. So in the ad, it's
1730
01:35:18.159 --> 01:35:23.539
a light projection of the Converse star. And a person...
1731
01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:26.079
wearing a pair of Chuck Taylors, is standing in the
1732
01:35:26.100 --> 01:35:29.260
middle of the star, and they've got a white robe on.
1733
01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:31.720
And because they're standing in the light, the top point
1734
01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:37.039
of the star is spilling onto their robe. So all
1735
01:35:37.060 --> 01:35:37.960
you see is the.
1736
01:35:37.979 --> 01:35:38.779
It looks like a hood.
1737
01:35:39.020 --> 01:35:40.279
Right, the white point.
1738
01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:41.899
Yeah, it does look like a hood.
1739
01:35:41.930 --> 01:35:44.149
Which looks very much like the hood of a Klan robe.
1740
01:35:44.470 --> 01:35:49.489
There's three other pairs of Converse. going around the star.
1741
01:35:50.810 --> 01:35:51.810
Facing it. Right.
1742
01:35:51.930 --> 01:35:54.800
Surrounding the figure in the middle. And the person in
1743
01:35:54.810 --> 01:35:59.079
the middle is holding a pair of chucks just out
1744
01:35:59.100 --> 01:36:01.500
of the light so that it looks like a pair
1745
01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:06.359
of feet dangling as if the person's being lynched. So
1746
01:36:07.699 --> 01:36:12.420
even if they were not trying to be slick and
1747
01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:19.439
depict a Klan lynching, too many people had to see
1748
01:36:19.479 --> 01:36:22.960
this image from the moment it was taken to when
1749
01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:27.979
it was published. And not a single person said anything.
1750
01:36:28.500 --> 01:36:31.920
I find that hard to believe. So either y'all are
1751
01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:37.680
the most inept marketing people ever, or y'all think y'all slick.
1752
01:36:38.420 --> 01:36:45.409
Maybe. It's an interesting choice. Yeah. Truly. It doesn't... When
1753
01:36:45.430 --> 01:36:48.090
you put it in that context, it certainly looks intentional.
1754
01:36:48.539 --> 01:36:51.479
Yeah, and if that's not what you were going for.
1755
01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:53.229
But I did have to have it explained, because I
1756
01:36:53.250 --> 01:36:53.810
just went, what?
1757
01:36:54.689 --> 01:36:56.189
If that's not what they were going for, this is
1758
01:36:56.470 --> 01:36:57.689
not even an appealing ad.
1759
01:36:58.989 --> 01:37:02.630
No, it's really not. It makes no sense. Right. Unless
1760
01:37:02.670 --> 01:37:05.899
you put it in that context that you... Then it
1761
01:37:05.979 --> 01:37:10.420
makes sense, but it's seriously disturbing in that case.
1762
01:37:10.979 --> 01:37:12.000
Like, what?
1763
01:37:12.539 --> 01:37:12.779
Yeah.
1764
01:37:13.300 --> 01:37:19.270
So, best case scenario, it's a Highly ineffectual ad. Worst
1765
01:37:19.289 --> 01:37:22.289
case scenario, y'all are some racists who think you're slick.
1766
01:37:22.829 --> 01:37:23.050
Yeah.
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01:37:23.649 --> 01:37:23.930
That's it.
1768
01:37:24.090 --> 01:37:28.430
A U.S. ambassador has removed a gay artist, quote, lesbian
1769
01:37:28.529 --> 01:37:34.619
picnic painting from the embassy where he works. The director
1770
01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:40.000
of the State Department's Art in Embassies program, right, which
1771
01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:44.890
obviously a patronage position. Mm-hmm. Called the painting very woke
1772
01:37:45.489 --> 01:37:46.970
and aesthetically terrifying.
1773
01:37:47.130 --> 01:37:47.329
Yeah.
1774
01:37:47.489 --> 01:37:49.630
It is neither thing. And this is the artist that
1775
01:37:50.149 --> 01:37:52.300
painted the Obama portraits.
1776
01:37:52.340 --> 01:37:52.649
Yeah.
1777
01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:58.600
Which he does the floral backgrounds. Yeah. Kehinde Wiley. Yeah.
1778
01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:03.859
And this is the embassy in the Dominican Republic. And yeah,
1779
01:38:04.180 --> 01:38:11.090
the painting is actually called Young Artists After Siamesis, 1960. 1960.
1780
01:38:11.090 --> 01:38:15.829
commissioned by the U.S. government under Barack Obama in 2013,
1781
01:38:15.829 --> 01:38:18.449
and it has hung in the embassy in Santo Domingo
1782
01:38:18.489 --> 01:38:23.409
since 2015. And it's four individuals in the photo. There's
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01:38:23.489 --> 01:38:26.350
two men and two women, two male presenting people and
1784
01:38:26.369 --> 01:38:29.500
two female presenting people. I don't know where we get
1785
01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:30.699
lesbian picnic.
1786
01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:35.020
Well, because the two women figures are facing each other.
1787
01:38:35.060 --> 01:38:37.279
They're holding hands. And it looks like they're dancing.
1788
01:38:37.619 --> 01:38:37.939
Maybe.
1789
01:38:38.640 --> 01:38:44.500
But either they're posing and looking at the viewer or
1790
01:38:45.119 --> 01:38:48.750
they're dancing. And then the two male figures are seated
1791
01:38:49.069 --> 01:38:50.029
on either side of them.
1792
01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:51.640
Yeah, like sitting on the ground.
1793
01:38:51.699 --> 01:38:52.510
Yeah, that's it.
1794
01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:56.399
At any rate, Aaron Scavino, who is the hack that
1795
01:38:56.460 --> 01:38:59.680
is the director of the State Department's Art in Embassies program,
1796
01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:03.020
said that the U.S. ambassador to the Dominican Republic has
1797
01:39:03.060 --> 01:39:05.100
a piece of art hanging in her embassy that we
1798
01:39:05.140 --> 01:39:08.619
worked very hard to get taken down. It was very woke.
1799
01:39:09.279 --> 01:39:11.859
It was by the gentleman who did Obama's portrait, and
1800
01:39:11.890 --> 01:39:17.970
it was aesthetically terrifying. Because it's black people. That terrifies her.
1801
01:39:18.710 --> 01:39:19.970
That doesn't surprise me.
1802
01:39:20.739 --> 01:39:22.859
And I bet you the fact that he was the
1803
01:39:22.920 --> 01:39:26.000
artist that did Obama's portrait had nothing.
1804
01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:27.779
To do with... Nothing whatsoever. It's just a coincidence.
1805
01:39:27.819 --> 01:39:28.000
Yeah.
1806
01:39:28.020 --> 01:39:30.930
It remains unclear what she found so terrifying based on
1807
01:39:30.939 --> 01:39:34.829
the work of two Dominican artists depicting four Dominican art
1808
01:39:34.909 --> 01:39:37.149
students against a backdrop of flowers.
1809
01:39:37.510 --> 01:39:38.720
Yeah. That's it.
1810
01:39:39.390 --> 01:39:44.109
But anyway, for his part, Wiley has begun selling t-shirts.
1811
01:39:44.130 --> 01:39:44.199
Yes.
1812
01:39:44.590 --> 01:39:48.760
Featuring the phrase aesthetically terrifying work on his website. And
1813
01:39:48.909 --> 01:39:49.840
I think I want one.
1814
01:39:49.909 --> 01:39:50.500
I do too.
1815
01:39:51.140 --> 01:39:55.600
Yeah. This is garbage. This is gross. This is what
1816
01:39:55.619 --> 01:39:58.960
happens when you put in complete incompetence in charge of
1817
01:39:59.020 --> 01:40:00.659
things like art.
1818
01:40:00.979 --> 01:40:01.279
Yeah.
1819
01:40:01.699 --> 01:40:07.569
Yeah. Interestingly enough, as the times noted, the 2015 painting
1820
01:40:07.869 --> 01:40:11.250
predates the Biden administration because they blame Biden, of course.
1821
01:40:12.310 --> 01:40:20.430
And the, Dominican Republic decriminalized homosexuality in 1822. But in 1822? Yeah.
1822
01:40:20.449 --> 01:40:20.970
That worked.
1823
01:40:22.090 --> 01:40:25.149
This was pointed out because this bitch said, I saw
1824
01:40:25.189 --> 01:40:28.649
a huge painting of a picnic in a park with
1825
01:40:28.789 --> 01:40:33.949
flowers and some lesbians. It was total evidence of the
1826
01:40:33.989 --> 01:40:39.300
indoctrination the Biden administration wanted to do by bringing that
1827
01:40:39.460 --> 01:40:46.090
ideology here to the Dominican people. These people are insane. Insane.
1828
01:40:46.250 --> 01:40:50.289
And they are running our government. And we wonder why.
1829
01:40:51.010 --> 01:40:54.939
We are the laughing stock of the world. Let's move on. Yeah.
1830
01:40:54.949 --> 01:40:56.100
Before I say something wrong.
1831
01:40:56.489 --> 01:41:02.619
So, that's fun. Right? Is it? Mitch McConnell showed up.
1832
01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:05.640
He's the rolling dead at this point. It sounded like
1833
01:41:05.680 --> 01:41:06.020
they had to.
1834
01:41:06.020 --> 01:41:07.539
The rolling dead?
1835
01:41:07.619 --> 01:41:08.699
Direct him. Um....
1836
01:41:16.199 --> 01:41:17.039
Oh, that tickled me.
1837
01:41:18.199 --> 01:41:21.090
Yeah, it doesn't sound like he can talk much or
1838
01:41:21.159 --> 01:41:23.909
make any sense at all. I mean, they showed him
1839
01:41:23.949 --> 01:41:25.890
what button to push and he almost pushed the wrong
1840
01:41:26.090 --> 01:41:30.430
one for their purposes. But, you know, hey, keep him
1841
01:41:30.449 --> 01:41:30.970
in the Senate.
1842
01:41:31.090 --> 01:41:32.609
The not talking part, at least.
1843
01:41:33.109 --> 01:41:36.359
Yeah, there are Christians threatening a lawsuit if a school
1844
01:41:36.380 --> 01:41:39.619
in North Carolina doesn't let parents opt out of a
1845
01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:42.909
trans teacher's class. This is a music teacher. The class
1846
01:41:42.949 --> 01:41:45.310
has absolutely nothing to do with being transgender, but it's
1847
01:41:45.350 --> 01:41:48.890
the fact that a transgender person is making a living,
1848
01:41:49.329 --> 01:41:52.409
loves their job, does, by all accounts, an excellent job
1849
01:41:52.470 --> 01:41:55.949
as a music teacher, but, you know, we've got to
1850
01:41:56.010 --> 01:41:59.119
fuck with any trans person who is actually feeding themselves
1851
01:41:59.159 --> 01:42:01.539
or has any dignity at all in the United States
1852
01:42:01.579 --> 01:42:05.500
of America. My God. Yeah, and this bunch of bullshit
1853
01:42:05.539 --> 01:42:08.260
is coming from the Thomas More Society, a prolific Christian
1854
01:42:08.319 --> 01:42:12.590
nationalist litigator. with a history of cases challenging marriage equality,
1855
01:42:12.609 --> 01:42:17.289
abortion rights, and, of course, Biden's election. Shocker. They sent
1856
01:42:17.310 --> 01:42:19.909
a letter to a school district on September 15th with
1857
01:42:19.949 --> 01:42:23.630
a list of demands. Otherwise, they're going to sue.
1858
01:42:24.409 --> 01:42:24.829
Meh.
1859
01:42:26.840 --> 01:42:36.579
Yeah, so ignorance still knows no bounds with the GOP. Also, also, Democratic,
1860
01:42:36.960 --> 01:42:40.390
again in Ohio, just want to point that out, The
1861
01:42:40.430 --> 01:42:45.890
Democratic Ohio candidate Marcy Kaptur released an ad saying, I
1862
01:42:45.970 --> 01:42:52.189
voted with Republicans to keep transgender ideology out of schools.
1863
01:42:52.670 --> 01:42:53.590
I hate that term.
1864
01:42:53.949 --> 01:42:57.380
She also said in her ad, let me be clear,
1865
01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:03.939
boys should not play girls sports. This is a fucking
1866
01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:05.699
Democrat running for Congress.
1867
01:43:06.380 --> 01:43:07.560
Bitch, you ain't got nothing better to do.
1868
01:43:08.159 --> 01:43:13.000
Apparently not. This is, I have said so many times,
1869
01:43:13.119 --> 01:43:16.260
this is the danger. This is the danger. They throw
1870
01:43:16.359 --> 01:43:20.779
so many lies out there, so much bullshit, that some
1871
01:43:20.819 --> 01:43:23.550
of it starts... Well, they've got a point with that thing.
1872
01:43:23.630 --> 01:43:26.189
So who's getting hurt? I mean, there's really not trans
1873
01:43:26.210 --> 01:43:29.409
people in sports, which should be the point, motherfucker. Right.
1874
01:43:30.189 --> 01:43:34.529
You're right. There's very few, if any, in most cases...
1875
01:43:35.359 --> 01:43:37.319
This is bullying for the sake of bullying. Once again,
1876
01:43:37.359 --> 01:43:39.439
this is cruelty for the sake of cruelty. And you
1877
01:43:39.500 --> 01:43:42.699
are endorsing it. You are legitimizing it with this kind
1878
01:43:42.739 --> 01:43:45.310
of shit. And here's one more cunt doing just the same.
1879
01:43:45.739 --> 01:43:52.630
Marcy Kaptur. Yeah. She is 80 years old. Longest serving
1880
01:43:52.710 --> 01:43:58.949
woman in congressional history. She's been in Congress since 1983.
1881
01:43:58.949 --> 01:44:02.500
She is now the Democrat with the most vehemently anti-transgender
1882
01:44:02.560 --> 01:44:06.060
advertisement in a year. in which a small but significant
1883
01:44:06.100 --> 01:44:10.329
number of statewide and congressional Democratic candidates are capitulating on
1884
01:44:10.390 --> 01:44:11.590
transgender issues.
1885
01:44:12.010 --> 01:44:13.590
I hope someone hides her Boniva.
1886
01:44:15.829 --> 01:44:19.489
This is, you know, another person without a spine or
1887
01:44:19.510 --> 01:44:23.079
a heart trying to hold on to power at 80
1888
01:44:23.079 --> 01:44:26.420
fucking years old. And may she rot in hell with
1889
01:44:26.439 --> 01:44:27.020
the rest of them.
1890
01:44:27.300 --> 01:44:27.699
That part.
1891
01:44:27.819 --> 01:44:29.619
I wish there was a hell because I want these
1892
01:44:29.659 --> 01:44:34.500
people to rot somewhere. That part. That's it. I'm not
1893
01:44:34.539 --> 01:44:39.739
talking about anymore. We are going to go scrub our tongues.
1894
01:44:40.699 --> 01:44:42.920
And then we'll be back and cleanse our palates.
1895
01:44:43.140 --> 01:44:43.500
Yes.
1896
01:45:01.289 --> 01:45:01.789
And we're back.
1897
01:45:02.199 --> 01:45:03.579
We're back.
1898
01:45:04.220 --> 01:45:10.600
Boom. Okay. Why don't you kick this off?
1899
01:45:10.619 --> 01:45:13.399
So, Lily Wachowski, who we talked about in our last episode,
1900
01:45:14.479 --> 01:45:16.939
she has sounded off on Hollywood for the lack of
1901
01:45:17.100 --> 01:45:20.409
queer and trans stories, including the one that she wanted
1902
01:45:20.430 --> 01:45:20.930
to get funded.
1903
01:45:21.710 --> 01:45:21.930
Yep.
1904
01:45:22.869 --> 01:45:25.189
She said, I've pitched a lot of wonderful, cool queer
1905
01:45:25.250 --> 01:45:28.600
stories and trans stories, and Hollywood didn't want any of it.
1906
01:45:29.350 --> 01:45:29.510
Right.
1907
01:45:30.130 --> 01:45:33.170
Citing her pitches for projects like Cosmo Nights, which she
1908
01:45:33.189 --> 01:45:36.590
described as Star Wars with lesbians in space, which sounds cool,
1909
01:45:37.050 --> 01:45:40.970
and an adaptation of Gretchen Felker Martin's best-selling book Manhunt,
1910
01:45:41.090 --> 01:45:45.060
which were ultimately shelved. Most recently, her TV series Work
1911
01:45:45.100 --> 01:45:47.680
in Progress, which followed a lesbian woman who gets into
1912
01:45:47.739 --> 01:45:51.800
a relationship with a younger trans man, was unceremoniously canceled
1913
01:45:51.819 --> 01:45:54.600
by Showtime after two seasons despite rave reviews.
1914
01:45:55.850 --> 01:45:58.310
I've never heard of it before now. I didn't either.
1915
01:45:58.850 --> 01:46:02.239
I'll watch it. yeah well there's two seasons to watch
1916
01:46:02.439 --> 01:46:05.159
yeah yeah this is happening everywhere.
1917
01:46:05.460 --> 01:46:08.180
She brings up this year's where we are in film
1918
01:46:08.220 --> 01:46:13.369
report published by glad which found lgbtq plus representation on
1919
01:46:13.390 --> 01:46:16.270
the big screen to be at a three year low
1920
01:46:16.670 --> 01:46:18.789
the stats are even worse for trans folks who were
1921
01:46:18.829 --> 01:46:23.119
depicted in a whopping zero major motion pictures in 2025
1922
01:46:23.119 --> 01:46:26.500
we should post that list in the we can episode
1923
01:46:26.520 --> 01:46:27.279
notes as well.
1924
01:46:27.260 --> 01:46:29.779
We can do that yeah i mean well i and
1925
01:46:29.819 --> 01:46:32.079
i even read a piece not not that long ago
1926
01:46:32.300 --> 01:46:35.979
from elliot page has not gotten any job offers since
1927
01:46:36.199 --> 01:46:39.640
the odyssey right which is a 2026 film right yeah
1928
01:46:39.739 --> 01:46:42.850
he he mentioned like the phone's not ringing and laverne
1929
01:46:42.890 --> 01:46:44.649
conks of course has said she's lost.
1930
01:46:44.430 --> 01:46:47.289
90 of her income right and also big ups to
1931
01:46:47.310 --> 01:46:51.630
christopher nolan for casting elliot because he's worked with elliot
1932
01:46:51.850 --> 01:46:55.439
since like pre-transition he's like well Elliot's one of my actors,
1933
01:46:55.460 --> 01:46:57.000
so why wouldn't I have him in my new film?
1934
01:46:57.039 --> 01:46:57.479
Well, good.
1935
01:46:57.500 --> 01:46:59.840
We need more of those.
1936
01:47:00.079 --> 01:47:04.140
Otherwise, Hollywood is shying away from us at the behest
1937
01:47:04.180 --> 01:47:07.220
of these people. So we have them controlling art at
1938
01:47:07.260 --> 01:47:07.779
this point.
1939
01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:08.220
Yeah.
1940
01:47:08.760 --> 01:47:11.479
As we just mentioned about the story of the art
1941
01:47:11.840 --> 01:47:15.520
in one of our embassies. Yeah, they're trying to control art,
1942
01:47:16.239 --> 01:47:18.729
just like they have tried to control the books. But
1943
01:47:18.789 --> 01:47:21.430
go ahead. We have nothing to worry about.
1944
01:47:21.449 --> 01:47:28.369
It's scary. so let's see we've got uh 1984 fahrenheit
1945
01:47:28.369 --> 01:47:32.760
451 uh the handmaid's tale and now the movie equilibrium
1946
01:47:32.800 --> 01:47:34.979
where they're burning the books in the art so that
1947
01:47:35.060 --> 01:47:39.720
everyone is just like this zombie like these were supposed
1948
01:47:39.739 --> 01:47:42.279
to be warnings not guidebooks god damn.
1949
01:47:42.100 --> 01:47:44.739
It and yet here we are i know my god
1950
01:47:44.760 --> 01:47:47.600
here we are it's scary it really is it's um
1951
01:47:47.899 --> 01:47:53.350
chilling And, you know, of all people, Lily Wachowski, of course,
1952
01:47:53.590 --> 01:47:57.310
The Matrix can't get projects funded. What does that say
1953
01:47:57.350 --> 01:48:01.710
for every other trans filmmaker and queer filmmaker at this point?
1954
01:48:01.829 --> 01:48:02.069
Right.
1955
01:48:02.529 --> 01:48:05.970
You know, unless they're cranking out mainstream bullshit. Right.
1956
01:48:08.609 --> 01:48:15.319
The Emmys happened. They did. And your girl Mariska Hargitay
1957
01:48:15.359 --> 01:48:16.500
was the host.
1958
01:48:17.180 --> 01:48:17.539
I know.
1959
01:48:18.359 --> 01:48:22.630
And I love the... light shade she threw when she
1960
01:48:22.649 --> 01:48:25.649
was saying how there were a lot of shows that
1961
01:48:25.670 --> 01:48:30.189
were nominated this year that were premiering and some that
1962
01:48:30.210 --> 01:48:34.640
were having their finale, finale. I don't know how to,
1963
01:48:34.720 --> 01:48:37.760
I'm unfamiliar because I never had one. Right.
1964
01:48:38.220 --> 01:48:40.279
Because SPU is still running strong.
1965
01:48:40.899 --> 01:48:45.260
That is so fierce. So basically, if you weren't Widows
1966
01:48:45.319 --> 01:48:48.979
Bay or The Pit, fuck you at the Emmys.
1967
01:48:49.140 --> 01:48:49.640
I guess.
1968
01:48:49.979 --> 01:48:57.239
Because Widows Bay got all the comedy and acting trophies.
1969
01:48:58.760 --> 01:49:00.220
The Pit actually won a few.
1970
01:49:00.300 --> 01:49:02.520
Noah Wiley got one for this. The Pit was really good.
1971
01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:06.899
Lead actor, yeah. Pluribus, which apparently we have to watch.
1972
01:49:06.930 --> 01:49:10.449
I've been told several times to watch it.
1973
01:49:10.470 --> 01:49:13.909
Rhea Sehorne won for lead actor in that. Allison Janney
1974
01:49:13.930 --> 01:49:14.729
for The Diplomat.
1975
01:49:15.229 --> 01:49:17.189
Love that. Let's see.
1976
01:49:17.550 --> 01:49:20.029
DTF St. Louis, which we watched and talked about on
1977
01:49:20.069 --> 01:49:23.600
the show. Got one for limited series. Sally Field won
1978
01:49:23.640 --> 01:49:27.020
lead actress in a limited series movie for Netflix's remarkably
1979
01:49:27.140 --> 01:49:28.079
bright creatures.
1980
01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:29.840
Yeah.
1981
01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:33.600
There's a lot of things that we've actually seen for
1982
01:49:33.640 --> 01:49:37.930
a change that were nominated and uh a lot of
1983
01:49:37.949 --> 01:49:42.229
them won but yeah widow's bay like took all the
1984
01:49:42.289 --> 01:49:45.210
things i can see that i didn't think it was
1985
01:49:45.270 --> 01:49:46.869
that damn good but sure.
1986
01:49:47.130 --> 01:49:51.770
I mean it was a lot of twists and turns interesting.
1987
01:49:51.229 --> 01:49:54.909
You know it was good i'm not trying to say humor.
1988
01:49:54.329 --> 01:49:58.489
Yeah it was it was something fresh yeah.
1989
01:49:58.970 --> 01:50:02.010
Gene smart won for best comedy lead actress of course.
1990
01:50:01.750 --> 01:50:04.180
Good good Love Hacks.
1991
01:50:04.760 --> 01:50:11.319
You gotta. I'm looking for best directing, best lead, best supporting,
1992
01:50:11.819 --> 01:50:12.699
best writing.
1993
01:50:13.199 --> 01:50:15.460
Widow's Bay, Widow's Bay, Widow's Bay. Right.
1994
01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:20.359
DTF St. Louis Best Limited Series. I love, once again,
1995
01:50:20.600 --> 01:50:23.960
the bi-con that is Alan Cumming and the Traitors beat
1996
01:50:24.779 --> 01:50:33.409
all of RuPaul's like franchises. Best Reality Competition Program for Traitors.
1997
01:50:33.979 --> 01:50:40.460
Best reality host, Ellen Cumming. Best costumes design for reality.
1998
01:50:40.479 --> 01:50:41.119
I have no.
1999
01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:45.810
Desire to watch that show. None. You're welcome to. I
2000
01:50:45.829 --> 01:50:47.529
have none. I have zero interest.
2001
01:50:47.670 --> 01:50:50.829
I watched... The one season I watched was when Bob
2002
01:50:50.850 --> 01:50:53.489
the Drag Queen was on. And I stopped watching after
2003
01:50:53.529 --> 01:50:57.380
Bob got voted off. But I saw enough to understand
2004
01:50:57.449 --> 01:51:05.760
why the awards. Because... The best cinematography, basically. The landscapes
2005
01:51:05.819 --> 01:51:10.560
in Scotland, where they are. Gorgeous. And the things that
2006
01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:17.170
Alan Cumming wears. I saw once this blue kilt ensemble
2007
01:51:17.229 --> 01:51:22.130
with blue sparkly feathers that went up one side. Cunty
2008
01:51:22.170 --> 01:51:24.920
as hell. I love it. I love that. I love that.
2009
01:51:25.420 --> 01:51:27.579
Okay. I still have no desire to.
2010
01:51:27.560 --> 01:51:31.920
Watch that show. I didn't. If someone I really wanted
2011
01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:33.800
to see on the show wasn't on it, I would
2012
01:51:33.819 --> 01:51:36.390
not have given a fuck. But apparently Bianca Del Rio
2013
01:51:36.409 --> 01:51:37.489
is going to be on next season.
2014
01:51:38.130 --> 01:51:38.449
Okay.
2015
01:51:38.630 --> 01:51:40.149
I might care enough to.
2016
01:51:40.550 --> 01:51:43.529
I probably still won't. There are certain shows I just, like,
2017
01:51:43.590 --> 01:51:46.770
first of all, I'm sick and tired of competition. You
2018
01:51:46.810 --> 01:51:49.069
know I hate competition shows. Yeah, I know. As a rule.
2019
01:51:49.729 --> 01:51:54.710
Except maybe Jeopardy. Right. Jeopardy is okay. But, you know,
2020
01:51:54.869 --> 01:51:57.170
and the Real Housewives. I've never seen an episode of
2021
01:51:57.210 --> 01:52:00.409
Real Housewives of anything anywhere ever. You ain't missed a
2022
01:52:00.409 --> 01:52:03.470
damn thing. And I don't plan to. Yeah. I've only
2023
01:52:03.609 --> 01:52:07.140
watched Andy Cohen a few times because I was forced to.
2024
01:52:07.260 --> 01:52:11.760
That messy faggot. Right. Yeah. It was on where we were. But, yeah.
2025
01:52:11.859 --> 01:52:15.960
There are things I just don't care to ever see. And, yeah.
2026
01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:17.680
That's one of them. Yeah.
2027
01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:22.680
Fair enough. Rob Reiner won a posthumous Emmy for... The
2028
01:52:22.720 --> 01:52:24.960
bear guest actor in a comedy series.
2029
01:52:25.020 --> 01:52:28.199
He was in The Bear, yes. I stopped watching that.
2030
01:52:28.399 --> 01:52:28.960
I know you did.
2031
01:52:30.140 --> 01:52:31.770
Yeah. I was just like, ugh.
2032
01:52:32.220 --> 01:52:33.819
Did you even see the Rob Reiner episode?
2033
01:52:34.020 --> 01:52:36.979
I did. Okay. Yeah, I'm familiar with the character that
2034
01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:40.640
he played. I just, it's something awful done happened for
2035
01:52:40.699 --> 01:52:46.819
white people. And I'm like, okay, enough. Just enough.
2036
01:52:47.460 --> 01:52:50.560
Well, this took me out. um so for the best
2037
01:52:50.680 --> 01:52:54.000
guest actress in a comedy series betty gilpin for uh
2038
01:52:54.079 --> 01:52:58.590
widow's bay one she beat leslie bibb for hacks jamie
2039
01:52:58.649 --> 01:53:01.670
lee curtis for the bear cherry jones for hacks laurie
2040
01:53:01.829 --> 01:53:05.850
metcalf in hacks caitlin olsen in hacks lauren weedman in
2041
01:53:06.390 --> 01:53:10.529
hacks god damn it who are you talking about uh
2042
01:53:10.590 --> 01:53:14.210
betty gilpin for widow's bay she beat all those people
2043
01:53:14.250 --> 01:53:18.180
yeah she did i love that um The Bad Bunny
2044
01:53:18.460 --> 01:53:21.399
Super Bowl halftime show won for Best Variety Special.
2045
01:53:21.800 --> 01:53:22.039
Cool.
2046
01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:28.109
And also won for Best Direction of a Variety Special. Good.
2047
01:53:28.369 --> 01:53:29.029
I love that.
2048
01:53:29.390 --> 01:53:30.789
That makes me happy.
2049
01:53:30.810 --> 01:53:35.210
And so that was Best Live Variety Special. Because Best
2050
01:53:35.609 --> 01:53:39.229
Pre-Recorded Variety Special, the Muppet Show won. I forgot that
2051
01:53:39.250 --> 01:53:40.029
they brought that back.
2052
01:53:40.289 --> 01:53:40.510
Good.
2053
01:53:41.029 --> 01:53:44.869
So yeah, we can post the complete list of nominees
2054
01:53:44.930 --> 01:53:46.310
and winners of the Emmys.
2055
01:53:46.939 --> 01:53:47.520
Yes, we can.
2056
01:53:48.520 --> 01:53:52.399
So we also watched a bunch of other things. We
2057
01:53:52.930 --> 01:53:58.890
hate-watched the B-Girl Ray Gun documentary.
2058
01:53:59.289 --> 01:54:00.109
Breaking Badly.
2059
01:54:00.149 --> 01:54:02.510
Breaking Badly. That title is still good, though.
2060
01:54:02.949 --> 01:54:07.869
It's really good, yeah. That's a good title. Yeah, hate-watching
2061
01:54:07.930 --> 01:54:08.789
is probably accurate.
2062
01:54:08.930 --> 01:54:11.930
Yeah, it just made me mad. And all the actual
2063
01:54:12.350 --> 01:54:15.149
B-Boys and B-Girls that we know were like, I couldn't
2064
01:54:15.170 --> 01:54:15.390
do it.
2065
01:54:15.800 --> 01:54:17.960
Yeah, they just couldn't even.
2066
01:54:18.159 --> 01:54:18.779
And that's fine.
2067
01:54:18.840 --> 01:54:22.060
Not for fun, just giggles or hi. They just said no.
2068
01:54:22.359 --> 01:54:22.520
Yeah.
2069
01:54:23.010 --> 01:54:25.890
And we should have too. We'll never get that time back.
2070
01:54:26.350 --> 01:54:30.569
I didn't learn anything other than I saw that she
2071
01:54:30.630 --> 01:54:34.350
totally followed the White Woman in a Crisis guidebook.
2072
01:54:34.369 --> 01:54:35.489
The narrative, yes.
2073
01:54:35.550 --> 01:54:36.130
Yeah.
2074
01:54:36.289 --> 01:54:36.949
Explain that.
2075
01:54:37.869 --> 01:54:40.569
And I never thought of this until I read the
2076
01:54:40.609 --> 01:54:45.590
book Yellow Face, which is about a white woman who basically, like,
2077
01:54:46.039 --> 01:54:49.989
passes off the writing of an Asian woman as her own.
2078
01:54:50.189 --> 01:54:50.409
Yes.
2079
01:54:50.890 --> 01:54:54.029
And what transpired was pretty much exactly what happened with
2080
01:54:54.090 --> 01:54:58.010
Ray Gunn. It's like she knew she had no business
2081
01:54:58.050 --> 01:55:02.630
doing this, but she did it anyway. She convinced herself
2082
01:55:02.850 --> 01:55:05.600
that she was very much in the right to do
2083
01:55:05.659 --> 01:55:10.460
so and deserved it. And everyone kept telling her, this
2084
01:55:10.520 --> 01:55:12.859
is not for you. And she went, yes, it is.
2085
01:55:13.439 --> 01:55:17.369
Even though she knew, she knew. And then when she
2086
01:55:17.470 --> 01:55:20.590
finally admitted to herself that she shouldn't be doing this,
2087
01:55:21.930 --> 01:55:26.010
she was too deep. So she had to commit. And
2088
01:55:26.050 --> 01:55:30.340
then she got to the Olympics and she did that
2089
01:55:30.380 --> 01:55:33.239
abomination that she did. And she tried to pass off
2090
01:55:33.319 --> 01:55:37.520
all her bullshit as intentional and nods to her culture,
2091
01:55:37.579 --> 01:55:39.739
like that fucking kangaroo hop and shit.
2092
01:55:39.960 --> 01:55:40.479
Yeah, well.
2093
01:55:40.840 --> 01:55:42.199
I did that on purpose.
2094
01:55:42.939 --> 01:55:45.159
She did do that on purpose. Yes. There were a
2095
01:55:45.159 --> 01:55:49.359
couple things she did include on purpose. That wasn't the lie.
2096
01:55:49.399 --> 01:55:51.109
That made it more horrible.
2097
01:55:51.250 --> 01:55:52.069
Even more horrible, yeah.
2098
01:55:52.109 --> 01:55:55.789
And then she was, like, shocked at all the negative
2099
01:55:55.829 --> 01:55:58.750
attention she got. Like, she couldn't believe it.
2100
01:55:58.789 --> 01:56:01.609
Shocked, I tell you. Yeah. Yeah, that was interesting.
2101
01:56:01.710 --> 01:56:06.439
And then she went into hiding. And then, like, everyone that, like,
2102
01:56:06.479 --> 01:56:08.659
told her while she was a recluse, you know, like,
2103
01:56:08.880 --> 01:56:12.619
you're wonderful, you did this, and you deserve, and blah, blah, blah. She, like,
2104
01:56:12.859 --> 01:56:16.130
took that. to heart and was like yeah i am
2105
01:56:16.149 --> 01:56:19.010
amazing and then she came out of hiding and like
2106
01:56:19.470 --> 01:56:23.390
all the the positive the three or four positive comments
2107
01:56:23.409 --> 01:56:26.649
she got on the internet she like took that as
2108
01:56:26.729 --> 01:56:30.380
like my people believe in me i should go back
2109
01:56:30.439 --> 01:56:34.220
into the breaking arena and and and show my face
2110
01:56:34.239 --> 01:56:37.779
i know and she did yes she did and now
2111
01:56:37.859 --> 01:56:42.159
she thinks like she she's overcome adversity or some shit.
2112
01:56:42.500 --> 01:56:49.319
Right It's like, girl, there's something poetic about talking about
2113
01:56:49.359 --> 01:56:54.520
her and Rachel Dolezal in the same episode. That part.
2114
01:56:54.779 --> 01:56:56.539
Like, I'm still mad. Because there was like the one
2115
01:56:56.659 --> 01:57:00.079
Asian dancer that by all accounts was way better than her.
2116
01:57:00.140 --> 01:57:01.319
I don't even understand how.
2117
01:57:01.659 --> 01:57:02.279
She beat her.
2118
01:57:02.319 --> 01:57:05.319
Like, this is way back in the qualifiers.
2119
01:57:05.340 --> 01:57:10.300
I know. Insane. Insane. Yeah. So anyway.
2120
01:57:10.579 --> 01:57:10.739
Yeah.
2121
01:57:10.840 --> 01:57:12.140
That exists in the world.
2122
01:57:12.199 --> 01:57:13.420
It's on Netflix if you care.
2123
01:57:15.300 --> 01:57:17.800
Yeah, it was an interesting watch.
2124
01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:19.319
Yeah, that's a word.
2125
01:57:19.479 --> 01:57:19.920
Moving on.
2126
01:57:20.939 --> 01:57:23.439
I stumbled upon Superior Donuts.
2127
01:57:23.779 --> 01:57:24.720
I know, and it's funny.
2128
01:57:24.899 --> 01:57:26.050
It's a funny series.
2129
01:57:26.060 --> 01:57:26.750
It's been cute.
2130
01:57:26.930 --> 01:57:27.289
Yeah.
2131
01:57:27.750 --> 01:57:28.369
Judd Hirsch.
2132
01:57:28.649 --> 01:57:30.189
Judd Hirsch and.
2133
01:57:31.189 --> 01:57:31.810
Peg Bundy.
2134
01:57:32.250 --> 01:57:33.090
Oh, Katie Segal.
2135
01:57:33.130 --> 01:57:38.869
Katie Segal. Dude's name, he's new to me, the actor
2136
01:57:38.909 --> 01:57:39.470
that's kind of.
2137
01:57:39.970 --> 01:57:40.729
Jermaine Fowler.
2138
01:57:41.090 --> 01:57:41.369
Yes.
2139
01:57:41.630 --> 01:57:47.050
Yes, Jermaine Fowler. He's funny. I actually discovered him when
2140
01:57:47.130 --> 01:57:50.079
he did Super Secret Celebrity Drag Race.
2141
01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:52.520
Okay. Yeah.
2142
01:57:52.939 --> 01:57:53.920
That's how I discovered him.
2143
01:57:54.159 --> 01:57:55.600
He was a judge?
2144
01:57:56.000 --> 01:57:57.119
No, he was a contestant.
2145
01:57:58.220 --> 01:57:59.319
Okay. Yeah.
2146
01:58:00.359 --> 01:58:02.789
I know you've never heard of this. No. Super Secret
2147
01:58:02.810 --> 01:58:06.189
Celebrity Drag Race. Part of the secret is that these
2148
01:58:06.229 --> 01:58:09.069
people host celebrities. But they.
2149
01:58:12.460 --> 01:58:16.600
Get these celebrities and they go under the wing of
2150
01:58:16.640 --> 01:58:20.100
drag race queens. I believe Jermaine Fowler was Bob the
2151
01:58:20.119 --> 01:58:22.670
Drag Queen's drag daughter. They put you up in drag
2152
01:58:22.689 --> 01:58:24.529
and they give you your character and they put you
2153
01:58:24.550 --> 01:58:25.909
through the challenges.
2154
01:58:26.210 --> 01:58:29.890
Is he gay? No. No. But he... Oh, oh, oh,
2155
01:58:29.939 --> 01:58:31.840
drag daughter in this show.
2156
01:58:31.939 --> 01:58:32.180
Yes.
2157
01:58:32.560 --> 01:58:34.380
Yeah, because I was going to say, never mind.
2158
01:58:34.479 --> 01:58:36.819
Yeah. Vanessa Williams was on an episode.
2159
01:58:37.420 --> 01:58:37.720
Okay.
2160
01:58:37.760 --> 01:58:42.710
But anyway. And he did the Snatch Game on his episode.
2161
01:58:42.810 --> 01:58:43.810
And he was funny.
2162
01:58:44.649 --> 01:58:48.170
He is funny. He is funny. Yeah. Yeah.
2163
01:58:48.289 --> 01:58:51.170
So that was... Anyway, that was my introduction to him.
2164
01:58:51.229 --> 01:58:53.250
So when I saw him in the trailer for Superior Donut,
2165
01:58:53.289 --> 01:58:54.130
I was like, oh, hey.
2166
01:58:54.760 --> 01:58:54.939
Yeah.
2167
01:58:55.270 --> 01:58:58.899
And so the show was about... And this is from 2017.
2168
01:58:58.899 --> 01:59:02.010
I'm just discovering this. But the show is from 2017.
2169
01:59:02.010 --> 01:59:05.689
It's about a donut shop that's been in the Chicago
2170
01:59:06.529 --> 01:59:10.850
neighborhood for 40-something years. And Jermaine Fowler plays this young
2171
01:59:11.189 --> 01:59:16.520
artist who wants to battle against gentrification. And he gets
2172
01:59:16.560 --> 01:59:19.680
a job in the donut shop. And he wants to
2173
01:59:19.859 --> 01:59:21.640
make it a staple of the community again.
2174
01:59:21.659 --> 01:59:21.760
Right.
2175
01:59:22.619 --> 01:59:27.140
As opposed to being another Starbucks or another... gentrified thing
2176
01:59:27.420 --> 01:59:30.300
and it's it's it's legit funny it is funny it
2177
01:59:30.340 --> 01:59:35.300
touches on race it touches on police brutality.
2178
01:59:34.890 --> 01:59:38.069
But it but it's been a good distraction yeah it's
2179
01:59:38.109 --> 01:59:41.989
legit funny yeah it's been fun to watch something cute
2180
01:59:42.590 --> 01:59:46.710
but smart enough that i don't get annoyed yeah.
2181
01:59:47.090 --> 01:59:49.649
Which is a good segue into we've been watching a
2182
01:59:49.689 --> 01:59:54.239
bunch of tyler perry properties why did we start watching
2183
01:59:55.689 --> 01:59:58.529
Why did I get married? For some reason, I had
2184
01:59:58.569 --> 02:00:00.449
it in my mind that I wanted to rewatch Why
2185
02:00:00.470 --> 02:00:03.229
Did I Get Married, which is one of the few
2186
02:00:03.369 --> 02:00:06.180
Tyler Perry properties that I remember enjoying.
2187
02:00:06.489 --> 02:00:10.579
Right. And you have such an aversion to anything Tyler Perry.
2188
02:00:10.779 --> 02:00:13.359
I do. That when you even say we're allowed to
2189
02:00:13.380 --> 02:00:18.779
watch it, it's like, I don't know. Like foreign porn
2190
02:00:18.819 --> 02:00:21.880
or something like that. I've never... It's like, okay, let's
2191
02:00:21.979 --> 02:00:28.880
do it. Let's do this. It's this forbidden thing. Right.
2192
02:00:29.159 --> 02:00:31.779
And it's not that it's good. Some of it's not good.
2193
02:00:31.819 --> 02:00:33.850
But that series was pretty good.
2194
02:00:33.869 --> 02:00:37.010
The Why Did I Get Married series was actually pretty good.
2195
02:00:37.029 --> 02:00:39.029
I don't like the way he writes women. But that
2196
02:00:39.050 --> 02:00:39.859
doesn't surprise me at all.
2197
02:00:39.890 --> 02:00:44.220
No, he does not like women. But the casts are
2198
02:00:44.340 --> 02:00:45.409
always amazing. Yes.
2199
02:00:45.899 --> 02:00:47.500
Yes. Yes.
2200
02:00:48.619 --> 02:00:50.659
And, you know, Why Did I Get Married was like
2201
02:00:50.760 --> 02:00:53.399
the least offensive of most of his properties.
2202
02:00:53.420 --> 02:00:55.619
So we were allowed to watch the trilogy.
2203
02:00:55.720 --> 02:01:02.289
Yeah. Some emotional intelligence, amazingly enough, you know, wonderful. Oh,
2204
02:01:02.670 --> 02:01:05.789
and the biggest thing was Tyler Perry portraying himself as
2205
02:01:05.829 --> 02:01:10.029
a heterosexual. That's some acting, child. Yes.
2206
02:01:10.890 --> 02:01:13.659
Yes. Fall from Grace. Did it start with that?
2207
02:01:13.760 --> 02:01:16.180
So then we started watching Fall from Grace after we
2208
02:01:16.479 --> 02:01:17.859
went through the Why Did I Get Married?
2209
02:01:17.880 --> 02:01:18.579
Was that after?
2210
02:01:18.739 --> 02:01:19.500
Yeah. Okay.
2211
02:01:19.899 --> 02:01:20.560
Okay.
2212
02:01:20.699 --> 02:01:22.760
Because it was like, you might also like, and I
2213
02:01:22.800 --> 02:01:24.640
had never heard of Fall from Grace and neither had you.
2214
02:01:24.960 --> 02:01:28.439
Right. Because in the middle, you had said you had
2215
02:01:28.539 --> 02:01:32.960
seen The Family That Prays. Right. And that it was good. Yeah.
2216
02:01:33.319 --> 02:01:35.810
So you went to bed and I watched that. And
2217
02:01:35.819 --> 02:01:36.520
it was good.
2218
02:01:36.550 --> 02:01:36.619
Yeah.
2219
02:01:36.689 --> 02:01:37.739
With Kathy Bates.
2220
02:01:37.779 --> 02:01:39.010
Yeah.
2221
02:01:39.170 --> 02:01:40.930
And Alfre Woodard. Uh-huh.
2222
02:01:41.829 --> 02:01:43.369
And that was the main reason why I had seen
2223
02:01:43.409 --> 02:01:45.590
The Family That Prays, because it was like, oh, Kathy
2224
02:01:45.630 --> 02:01:48.569
Bates and Alfre Woodard are doing Tyler Perry. Let's see
2225
02:01:48.600 --> 02:01:50.359
what that's about. And it was very good.
2226
02:01:50.439 --> 02:01:53.479
And that was good. Yeah. I liked it. And then
2227
02:01:53.500 --> 02:01:55.319
we watched Fall from Grace. Right.
2228
02:01:55.380 --> 02:02:00.079
Which was also, that was more typical Tyler Perry, like
2229
02:02:00.199 --> 02:02:09.180
the drama and the convoluted conflict, but still good and entertaining. Mm-hmm. Yeah,
2230
02:02:09.199 --> 02:02:11.619
that's the thing. My thing with Tyler Perry, when it's good,
2231
02:02:12.359 --> 02:02:17.270
it's very good. And when it's not, oh, good lord.
2232
02:02:17.399 --> 02:02:19.289
Oh, good lord. Which leads us to.
2233
02:02:19.930 --> 02:02:21.689
You decided to watch The Oval?
2234
02:02:22.090 --> 02:02:31.750
Because we had this conversation about Tyler Perry. And, you know,
2235
02:02:33.069 --> 02:02:37.789
one of the many reasons that you don't like Tyler
2236
02:02:37.829 --> 02:02:42.000
Perry is that And this notion that he is very
2237
02:02:42.039 --> 02:02:46.319
much closeted is a big part of it. Yes. And
2238
02:02:47.010 --> 02:02:50.869
so we went reading and found out that there was
2239
02:02:50.909 --> 02:02:52.409
an actor from The Oval.
2240
02:02:53.069 --> 02:02:54.350
Derek Dixon? Is that his name?
2241
02:02:54.409 --> 02:02:59.850
I believe so. Who was suing Tyler Perry for sexual assault, etc.
2242
02:03:01.289 --> 02:03:04.430
And so I wanted to see who that was. That's
2243
02:03:04.449 --> 02:03:07.229
why I started watching it. And it's so bad, it's...
2244
02:03:09.050 --> 02:03:11.770
bad i was gonna say it's like like i.
2245
02:03:11.689 --> 02:03:13.609
Was gonna let you finish that because i was not
2246
02:03:13.670 --> 02:03:14.689
sure where that was going.
2247
02:03:14.630 --> 02:03:20.340
I mean first i have so many questions it really
2248
02:03:20.680 --> 02:03:24.659
is the writing is not excellent i some of it's
2249
02:03:24.859 --> 02:03:26.979
not even good um.
2250
02:03:27.180 --> 02:03:29.220
It's not like what's less than one note.
2251
02:03:29.880 --> 02:03:34.140
Right hate the portrayal of women once again um in
2252
02:03:34.300 --> 02:03:39.729
in most of it it's just a series of nonsense And,
2253
02:03:39.750 --> 02:03:44.170
you know, power-hungry people. Just craziness.
2254
02:03:45.369 --> 02:03:46.529
Yeah, Derek Dixon, I was right.
2255
02:03:46.710 --> 02:03:49.210
Yeah. So, I.
2256
02:03:50.149 --> 02:03:52.430
The president is a lecherous moron.
2257
02:03:52.890 --> 02:03:56.750
Yes, the president is an absolute lecherous moron. White dude
2258
02:03:56.789 --> 02:04:00.069
married to a black woman who is, you know, Cruella
2259
02:04:00.090 --> 02:04:04.850
de Vil on crack. On steroids. My God. Like, the worst,
2260
02:04:05.130 --> 02:04:09.869
just of the worst. Always, constantly... She's smiling a little
2261
02:04:09.909 --> 02:04:12.399
bit in season four, but it took that long to
2262
02:04:12.439 --> 02:04:13.539
get to that. Right.
2263
02:04:13.640 --> 02:04:16.180
Because everything I've ever heard her say was either shouted
2264
02:04:16.680 --> 02:04:17.479
or hissed.
2265
02:04:17.659 --> 02:04:18.880
Right. And always a threat.
2266
02:04:19.000 --> 02:04:19.500
Yeah.
2267
02:04:19.619 --> 02:04:23.220
And it was like, so much of it is so
2268
02:04:23.319 --> 02:04:23.739
one note.
2269
02:04:23.939 --> 02:04:26.770
I just want one person to say, or what, bitch?
2270
02:04:27.350 --> 02:04:28.350
What you going to do?
2271
02:04:28.489 --> 02:04:33.829
A couple people have, which does add some interest. What
2272
02:04:33.869 --> 02:04:34.390
did I say?
2273
02:04:34.470 --> 02:04:37.760
This entire series just screams, I wrote this on the toilet.
2274
02:04:38.439 --> 02:04:41.039
Yeah, that is what you said. And I don't disagree.
2275
02:04:41.560 --> 02:04:45.619
I truly don't disagree. Clearly, one of the reasons Tyler
2276
02:04:45.640 --> 02:04:48.340
Perry makes money is he doesn't pay other people with ideas.
2277
02:04:49.020 --> 02:04:53.229
Well, right, because it was like written, directed.
2278
02:04:53.270 --> 02:04:58.130
Yeah, produced, written, directed. Yeah, edited for all I know.
2279
02:04:58.390 --> 02:05:00.710
Costume design, set design. Craft services.
2280
02:05:05.810 --> 02:05:12.979
Best boy key grip tyler perry right right it's like
2281
02:05:13.000 --> 02:05:15.779
you gotta let somebody do some of this shit man and.
2282
02:05:15.699 --> 02:05:19.180
You think just because there's a little softness obvious there
2283
02:05:19.340 --> 02:05:23.520
and he his start was doing drag from church to
2284
02:05:23.560 --> 02:05:27.399
church you think that maybe there's a queer man hiding
2285
02:05:27.439 --> 02:05:28.020
in there.
2286
02:05:28.079 --> 02:05:30.899
That's no i think because.
2287
02:05:30.380 --> 02:05:33.899
I'm trying to i'm trying to serve it up to
2288
02:05:33.939 --> 02:05:36.640
you no Yeah. I mean, I think the same thing.
2289
02:05:36.699 --> 02:05:39.989
I'm like, that is acting. Like, when he's, like, being
2290
02:05:40.029 --> 02:05:41.670
a straight dude, I'm like, oh, please. He's like, come on, baby.
2291
02:05:41.810 --> 02:05:42.489
Come on. Come on.
2292
02:05:43.069 --> 02:05:43.609
And the thing is.
2293
02:05:43.609 --> 02:05:49.489
Does anyone take your... Lord knows. I have to respect...
2294
02:05:49.149 --> 02:05:49.640
Say that.
2295
02:05:49.729 --> 02:05:51.960
And I've said this publicly. I have to respect his
2296
02:05:52.020 --> 02:05:55.359
business acumen. Because, like, when he was doing the Madea
2297
02:05:55.399 --> 02:05:59.520
plays and traveling all around the country doing these shows,
2298
02:05:59.640 --> 02:06:01.359
he was living in his car for a good chunk
2299
02:06:01.399 --> 02:06:01.930
of it. Right.
2300
02:06:01.939 --> 02:06:02.770
Right. Right.
2301
02:06:03.520 --> 02:06:06.220
And now he's worth a billion dollars.
2302
02:06:06.340 --> 02:06:09.020
Let's see if not then it's very close.
2303
02:06:09.079 --> 02:06:12.359
Okay and so you know i have to respect that
2304
02:06:12.840 --> 02:06:15.149
but at the same time it's like but the output
2305
02:06:15.229 --> 02:06:18.829
the product that you are benefiting from.
2306
02:06:18.770 --> 02:06:22.949
Is just like i mean some things with several exceptions
2307
02:06:23.210 --> 02:06:25.710
and some of it's just like really well it's like.
2308
02:06:25.670 --> 02:06:27.569
What is it you put a hundred chimpanzees in a
2309
02:06:27.609 --> 02:06:29.609
room with a hundred typewriters one of them's gonna write
2310
02:06:29.630 --> 02:06:32.369
shakespeare like that's kind of how it is like.
2311
02:06:32.970 --> 02:06:35.880
Yeah, but this is just him. Well, right. He's all 100.
2312
02:06:35.869 --> 02:06:37.970
Something's got to be good out of this. Out of
2313
02:06:37.989 --> 02:06:39.770
your example. But, yeah.
2314
02:06:39.949 --> 02:06:42.109
Like, I'm never going to forgive him for For Colored Girls,
2315
02:06:42.149 --> 02:06:43.369
for what he did to For Colored Girls.
2316
02:06:43.869 --> 02:06:44.489
Right. You hate that.
2317
02:06:44.510 --> 02:06:46.189
Never, never, never, never.
2318
02:06:46.229 --> 02:06:49.529
But again, explain why.
2319
02:06:50.710 --> 02:06:53.350
Oh, because For Colored Girls is supposed to be about
2320
02:06:53.409 --> 02:06:58.600
these women who are like, you know, they have all
2321
02:06:58.699 --> 02:07:03.069
triumphed over whatever... form of adversity they have in their
2322
02:07:03.090 --> 02:07:07.010
individual lives and they're these sister women right he took
2323
02:07:07.090 --> 02:07:11.569
the source material and made these these several of these
2324
02:07:11.850 --> 02:07:15.329
narratives where every single one of these women ends up
2325
02:07:15.350 --> 02:07:20.789
being a victim he created victimhood where there was none
2326
02:07:22.270 --> 02:07:25.029
he created other characters to be in this. There was
2327
02:07:25.069 --> 02:07:27.090
no woman in black. There was no woman in white
2328
02:07:27.149 --> 02:07:30.720
in the original play. He created these characters so that
2329
02:07:30.739 --> 02:07:35.039
we can have a little bit more victimization. And it's like,
2330
02:07:35.060 --> 02:07:36.079
the fuck?
2331
02:07:36.840 --> 02:07:39.800
I don't like the way he writes women. Oh my God.
2332
02:07:39.819 --> 02:07:44.340
I don't like the stories he wants to tell around women.
2333
02:07:45.579 --> 02:07:47.909
For the most part. And a lot of the dialogue
2334
02:07:47.930 --> 02:07:48.550
is like, really?
2335
02:07:49.470 --> 02:07:49.850
Really?
2336
02:07:50.729 --> 02:07:52.989
And you got actresses to say this shit? Yeah.
2337
02:07:54.350 --> 02:07:58.130
And that's the other thing. He has made many a career.
2338
02:07:58.149 --> 02:08:00.960
And he keeps black folks working.
2339
02:08:01.239 --> 02:08:03.579
I hear you. Which is a good thing.
2340
02:08:03.600 --> 02:08:03.960
Right.
2341
02:08:04.319 --> 02:08:06.659
And I don't think any woman has ever come forward
2342
02:08:06.680 --> 02:08:11.369
with any kind of accusation of sexual impropriety. Shit. Whatsoever.
2343
02:08:11.390 --> 02:08:17.460
I think the worst thing you could say is, He
2344
02:08:17.539 --> 02:08:20.880
keeps my hotel so much further away from everyone else.
2345
02:08:21.000 --> 02:08:23.619
Right.
2346
02:08:23.699 --> 02:08:25.220
I can't even see him.
2347
02:08:27.689 --> 02:08:30.930
Yes, he has. I mean, there's a lot there. There's
2348
02:08:30.970 --> 02:08:34.510
a lot of, you know, but some of it's just, like,
2349
02:08:34.909 --> 02:08:39.149
the Oval is tedious at times. You keep watching it.
2350
02:08:39.189 --> 02:08:41.399
Because I'm just like, where does this go? And it's
2351
02:08:41.520 --> 02:08:42.279
still on.
2352
02:08:42.300 --> 02:08:42.699
Uh-huh.
2353
02:08:43.720 --> 02:08:45.460
It's been on since I want to say 2019.
2354
02:08:45.439 --> 02:08:49.319
Tyler Perry's keeping the lights on over at BET. They
2355
02:08:49.380 --> 02:08:50.149
ain't getting rid of him.
2356
02:08:50.779 --> 02:08:56.810
Granted, but I'm wondering who watches it and who's entertained
2357
02:08:56.890 --> 02:09:00.850
by this because it's, I don't know. I started this
2358
02:09:00.909 --> 02:09:04.350
conversation earlier with you. I kind of wonder what is
2359
02:09:04.380 --> 02:09:09.939
the point? What is your point to this? Because basically
2360
02:09:10.000 --> 02:09:13.380
you paint everyone, especially the women, But many of the
2361
02:09:13.420 --> 02:09:18.949
men as like helpless to the government, helpless to people
2362
02:09:19.010 --> 02:09:21.489
in power and whatever they want to do to you,
2363
02:09:21.810 --> 02:09:25.590
which is this your fantasy? I'm not sure. I don't.
2364
02:09:25.909 --> 02:09:27.029
I don't know. I'm not sure.
2365
02:09:27.050 --> 02:09:31.140
And it'd be one thing if this was written pre-Trump
2366
02:09:31.340 --> 02:09:35.199
years where it was like, can you imagine if the
2367
02:09:35.279 --> 02:09:38.920
people running the government were this crazy and this corrupt?
2368
02:09:38.979 --> 02:09:40.909
Wouldn't that be? But this was what, 2019?
2369
02:09:40.899 --> 02:09:43.130
Yeah. Yeah.
2370
02:09:44.130 --> 02:09:46.670
So we were three years into the first Trump administration.
2371
02:09:46.689 --> 02:09:49.880
Right. And they play it like they make references to
2372
02:09:49.939 --> 02:09:51.180
the last president.
2373
02:09:51.439 --> 02:09:51.619
Right.
2374
02:09:51.739 --> 02:09:54.039
Even as bad as that one was, this one's worse.
2375
02:09:54.180 --> 02:09:54.439
Right.
2376
02:09:54.880 --> 02:09:56.560
Is the idea. And they talk about the party, but
2377
02:09:56.579 --> 02:09:57.979
they never say which party.
2378
02:09:58.039 --> 02:09:59.239
Right.
2379
02:10:01.039 --> 02:10:03.090
It's not the West Wing. Let me tell you that
2380
02:10:03.109 --> 02:10:05.949
right now. No, it is not. It's nowhere close. Huge.
2381
02:10:06.170 --> 02:10:08.229
These people do nothing but drama.
2382
02:10:08.489 --> 02:10:09.130
Right.
2383
02:10:09.189 --> 02:10:13.050
It's like a low rent. dynasty kind of you know
2384
02:10:13.069 --> 02:10:16.529
what i mean yeah yeah it's it's all drama all
2385
02:10:16.569 --> 02:10:20.409
the time yeah and silliness and threatening each other all
2386
02:10:20.449 --> 02:10:22.729
the time this is what i'm gonna do to you
2387
02:10:22.810 --> 02:10:23.829
and this is what i'm gonna.
2388
02:10:23.630 --> 02:10:26.449
Yeah every other sentence starts with if you.
2389
02:10:26.329 --> 02:10:31.100
Don't right right yeah so no it has got i
2390
02:10:31.199 --> 02:10:37.180
managed into season four it on in the background yeah
2391
02:10:38.100 --> 02:10:40.619
But in part, just wondering how in the hell is
2392
02:10:40.640 --> 02:10:43.460
this still on television and why? And I still haven't
2393
02:10:43.479 --> 02:10:46.560
figured that part out yet. Right. I really have not.
2394
02:10:46.720 --> 02:10:47.420
It's not good.
2395
02:10:48.140 --> 02:10:48.819
It's not good.
2396
02:10:49.159 --> 02:10:54.199
I mean, I hate watching it. And I wanted to
2397
02:10:54.239 --> 02:10:58.010
see the, you know, like, okay, who is this person that,
2398
02:10:58.510 --> 02:11:02.949
you know, he showed his slip to? Right. Cute.
2399
02:11:03.569 --> 02:11:05.069
He ain't that goddamn cute for all that.
2400
02:11:05.810 --> 02:11:09.319
But you never know what, you know. gonna do it
2401
02:11:09.380 --> 02:11:10.140
for someone.
2402
02:11:10.739 --> 02:11:15.859
True i'm just saying like it should be if someone's
2403
02:11:15.880 --> 02:11:20.300
gonna bring down the tyler perry uh empire uh-huh it
2404
02:11:20.439 --> 02:11:23.180
should be someone a little bit more i don't know
2405
02:11:23.279 --> 02:11:24.300
anyway moving.
2406
02:11:24.180 --> 02:11:26.720
Are you saying it would surprise you who was a
2407
02:11:26.760 --> 02:11:31.260
mediocre white man come on now fair fair not saying
2408
02:11:31.279 --> 02:11:36.020
the actor's mediocre but as an actor he aspires to.
2409
02:11:35.960 --> 02:11:39.760
Be mediocre damn He's got to work his way up
2410
02:11:39.779 --> 02:11:40.479
to be mediocre.
2411
02:11:40.500 --> 02:11:42.359
He's trying, yeah.
2412
02:11:45.960 --> 02:11:47.380
That's his references.
2413
02:11:47.479 --> 02:11:50.720
Well, again, Tyler Perry's the one directing it, so you're
2414
02:11:50.739 --> 02:11:51.920
going to get... Right.
2415
02:11:52.720 --> 02:11:54.600
Look at me longingly. I mean, look at him longingly.
2416
02:11:57.579 --> 02:12:00.199
Right, and now you're really, really mad. Again.
2417
02:12:00.359 --> 02:12:00.600
Right.
2418
02:12:03.609 --> 02:12:05.210
Yeah, there's not a lot of depth.
2419
02:12:05.270 --> 02:12:07.939
Yeah, I feel like his directing is like, Okay, let's
2420
02:12:07.979 --> 02:12:10.319
try this again. This time, do it, I'm good.
2421
02:12:11.300 --> 02:12:19.100
Action. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Say it mad. Yeah, I mean, because,
2422
02:12:19.260 --> 02:12:21.399
you know, I watch it and sometimes I'm like, that's
2423
02:12:21.420 --> 02:12:25.039
an interesting choice for this scene. Right. Like, that's not
2424
02:12:25.079 --> 02:12:26.800
what a human being would do. That is not a
2425
02:12:26.840 --> 02:12:30.439
human reaction. Just makes no sense. I'm just, but here
2426
02:12:30.479 --> 02:12:30.800
we are.
2427
02:12:30.819 --> 02:12:32.689
I cracked up when we were supposed to be in
2428
02:12:32.729 --> 02:12:36.210
someone's bedroom. And he went to leave through the door
2429
02:12:36.270 --> 02:12:39.180
and the door swung open and it creaked when it
2430
02:12:39.229 --> 02:12:42.020
swung open. I was like, this is someone's kitchen that
2431
02:12:42.060 --> 02:12:44.880
he refashioned into a bedroom.
2432
02:12:44.920 --> 02:12:45.300
Maybe.
2433
02:12:45.619 --> 02:12:46.579
Oh, my God.
2434
02:12:48.119 --> 02:12:51.380
Well, he has his own soundstage, doesn't he?
2435
02:12:51.399 --> 02:12:53.600
I know, which is what made it extra funny.
2436
02:12:55.659 --> 02:13:00.039
It was what it was. Yeah. I'll let you know
2437
02:13:00.079 --> 02:13:05.689
how far I make it because I'm about done. I'm just,
2438
02:13:05.909 --> 02:13:11.770
it's so tedious. We're reaching for storylines. It's more and
2439
02:13:11.789 --> 02:13:15.210
more crazy. And there's no comeuppance for evil.
2440
02:13:15.810 --> 02:13:16.050
Right.
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02:13:16.789 --> 02:13:21.350
None. I mean, always for, usually for women who aren't
2442
02:13:22.210 --> 02:13:25.329
in line. But there's no comeuppance for this level of evil.
2443
02:13:25.390 --> 02:13:29.840
They just keep winning. Right. And I'm like, why? I know.
2444
02:13:30.020 --> 02:13:30.560
It's insane.
2445
02:13:31.399 --> 02:13:34.279
Why is that? And then if there is a good character...
2446
02:13:34.319 --> 02:13:37.500
They do something really off the hook. Like the two
2447
02:13:37.619 --> 02:13:40.470
decent men and the whole fucking thing both wind up
2448
02:13:40.510 --> 02:13:43.850
fucking the first lady. And why would you fuck that? Right.
2449
02:13:44.729 --> 02:13:45.350
I'd be afraid.
2450
02:13:45.529 --> 02:13:50.079
That's not even about the actress. I'm talking about that
2451
02:13:50.199 --> 02:13:54.199
portrayal of a woman who is nothing but angry all
2452
02:13:54.260 --> 02:14:00.479
the time. condescending, bitchy as fuck, nasty, nasty, hateful toward
2453
02:14:00.680 --> 02:14:03.319
everyone and everything. What is fuckable?
2454
02:14:03.579 --> 02:14:05.159
I'd be afraid my dick would get bitten off.
2455
02:14:05.439 --> 02:14:07.869
Right. What the fuck? Why would you want to put
2456
02:14:07.890 --> 02:14:08.550
your dick in that?
2457
02:14:08.630 --> 02:14:09.010
Thank you.
2458
02:14:09.829 --> 02:14:15.149
Seriously. When there's cantaloupes. Wow. Or anything.
2459
02:14:15.310 --> 02:14:18.850
And I'm not even suggesting vagina dentata. I'm saying she
2460
02:14:18.880 --> 02:14:22.000
would probably have like a guillotine installed in her drawers.
2461
02:14:22.199 --> 02:14:25.729
Maybe. I mean, that's what I'm saying. It's like it's
2462
02:14:25.829 --> 02:14:28.760
very hard to believe like, I don't give a shit
2463
02:14:28.800 --> 02:14:33.159
about spoiler alerts that like the vice president is this
2464
02:14:33.300 --> 02:14:38.279
like allegedly upstanding moral guy with this beautiful, you know,
2465
02:14:39.220 --> 02:14:42.739
he's black, beautiful black woman who is his wife. They
2466
02:14:43.000 --> 02:14:45.680
seem to have the perfect marriage and the right attitude
2467
02:14:45.720 --> 02:14:48.670
about everything. And then it turns out he's fucking the
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02:14:48.710 --> 02:14:49.289
first lady.
2469
02:14:50.310 --> 02:14:52.229
Why? What? Right.
2470
02:14:52.470 --> 02:14:56.720
What? You have a beautiful wife. Who's not crazy. Who's smart,
2471
02:14:56.880 --> 02:15:00.899
who seems to like, but you're fucking that. Right. And
2472
02:15:01.039 --> 02:15:05.109
by that, I mean this one note character who is
2473
02:15:05.189 --> 02:15:12.029
just pure, raw, unadulterated, nasty ambition. Yeah. And insecurity. What
2474
02:15:12.409 --> 02:15:14.390
is it you find so attractive?
2475
02:15:14.550 --> 02:15:14.789
Right.
2476
02:15:15.750 --> 02:15:19.000
Like that doesn't make any sense, but it's to give
2477
02:15:19.020 --> 02:15:22.399
a flaw to the two decent characters he happened to write. Right.
2478
02:15:22.949 --> 02:15:27.289
and make their they succumb to the woman's wiles and
2479
02:15:27.310 --> 02:15:30.020
i'm like so in your imagination this is what straight
2480
02:15:30.029 --> 02:15:36.079
men do right well i'm just saying well it makes
2481
02:15:36.100 --> 02:15:40.119
no sense nope yeah makes no sense moving on that's
2482
02:15:40.350 --> 02:15:42.430
how we yeah moving on.
2483
02:15:42.569 --> 02:15:45.369
Yeah i think i think i'm about done i dip
2484
02:15:45.409 --> 02:15:49.829
my toes in a the international franchises of Drag Race,
2485
02:15:49.850 --> 02:15:54.029
specifically Canada and UK, and I like them better. Yeah?
2486
02:15:54.449 --> 02:15:54.729
Okay.
2487
02:15:54.789 --> 02:15:55.710
Especially UK.
2488
02:15:56.970 --> 02:15:59.760
But UK has RuPaul, right? Yes. Canada does not.
2489
02:15:59.800 --> 02:16:01.399
Canada is hosted by Brooklyn Heights.
2490
02:16:01.939 --> 02:16:02.260
Okay.
2491
02:16:02.739 --> 02:16:05.720
Which was a source of shade for some of the
2492
02:16:05.760 --> 02:16:08.800
contestants because Brooklyn Heights did not win her series.
2493
02:16:09.380 --> 02:16:10.100
Uh-huh.
2494
02:16:10.140 --> 02:16:12.750
That's the season that Evie Oddly won.
2495
02:16:13.109 --> 02:16:13.369
Right.
2496
02:16:14.149 --> 02:16:20.069
And one of the... what the contestants said um the
2497
02:16:20.449 --> 02:16:24.069
best thing about us doing snatch game is at least
2498
02:16:24.189 --> 02:16:27.210
this year we know that a canadian will win snatch
2499
02:16:27.250 --> 02:16:32.639
game because brooklyn did horrible on her season i like
2500
02:16:32.680 --> 02:16:37.200
the uk version especially i don't know just their approach
2501
02:16:37.260 --> 02:16:40.159
to things is is more intriguing to me their humor
2502
02:16:40.219 --> 02:16:43.920
is funnier there's an emotional intelligence that's just devoid in
2503
02:16:43.959 --> 02:16:48.510
the states hmm Like, the way they interact with each other. Like,
2504
02:16:48.670 --> 02:16:50.110
I just like it better. Okay.
2505
02:16:50.450 --> 02:16:52.920
So. And what do they win? A piece of pottery?
2506
02:16:54.000 --> 02:16:55.620
A mug?
2507
02:16:55.920 --> 02:16:59.819
Yeah, they can't win prizes on the BBC. They win,
2508
02:17:00.760 --> 02:17:05.579
World of Wonder produces a digital, like, special for them.
2509
02:17:05.680 --> 02:17:07.799
They go to Hollywood, all expenses paid, and they film
2510
02:17:07.840 --> 02:17:09.120
this thing if they win.
2511
02:17:09.780 --> 02:17:09.879
Oh.
2512
02:17:10.659 --> 02:17:10.819
Yeah.
2513
02:17:11.399 --> 02:17:13.139
Okay. That's it. Well, that's something.
2514
02:17:13.299 --> 02:17:13.420
Yeah.
2515
02:17:13.989 --> 02:17:15.770
It was on the Great British Baking Show. You got
2516
02:17:15.790 --> 02:17:16.139
a plate.
2517
02:17:16.450 --> 02:17:16.930
Exactly.
2518
02:17:17.510 --> 02:17:18.459
So it's more than a plate.
2519
02:17:21.520 --> 02:17:22.200
And then.
2520
02:17:22.540 --> 02:17:25.600
You introduced me to Greg Araki this week.
2521
02:17:25.739 --> 02:17:28.379
I was like, let's... Because I hadn't seen Greg Araki
2522
02:17:28.420 --> 02:17:32.930
films in decades. And I wanted to watch Doom Generation
2523
02:17:32.989 --> 02:17:35.469
and Nowhere. So I was like, baby, let's watch this.
2524
02:17:35.569 --> 02:17:36.329
Tell me what you think.
2525
02:17:36.829 --> 02:17:37.129
Right.
2526
02:17:37.170 --> 02:17:37.829
So what'd you think?
2527
02:17:38.649 --> 02:17:38.770
Uh.
2528
02:17:40.770 --> 02:17:40.850
Uh.
2529
02:17:42.409 --> 02:17:44.940
They go nowhere. They do nothing. It's a lot of angst.
2530
02:17:45.079 --> 02:17:46.270
It's basically the 90s.
2531
02:17:47.600 --> 02:17:50.829
Yeah. I mean, you know, you gotta figure where I
2532
02:17:50.889 --> 02:17:54.350
was when I first saw these films like I was
2533
02:17:54.389 --> 02:17:57.610
essentially an art school student and this is like gonzo
2534
02:17:57.649 --> 02:18:00.950
queer cinema and it's you know it's a bunch of
2535
02:18:01.000 --> 02:18:06.420
hot people you know fucking insane fuck right it's.
2536
02:18:06.360 --> 02:18:09.139
Kind of like they're both films about a road trip
2537
02:18:09.180 --> 02:18:11.840
to nowhere Yeah. Yeah.
2538
02:18:12.620 --> 02:18:13.979
Nothing happens. Everything happens.
2539
02:18:14.879 --> 02:18:17.120
Mostly nothing. But yes.
2540
02:18:18.129 --> 02:18:22.889
But it's fun. And that's the thing. The acting is
2541
02:18:23.530 --> 02:18:27.389
pretty much non-existent. The plot is pretty much non-existent. But
2542
02:18:27.450 --> 02:18:31.709
it's shot so beautifully. And he does certain camera tricks
2543
02:18:31.729 --> 02:18:35.750
that were very interesting at the time. And the set
2544
02:18:35.790 --> 02:18:37.559
design was amazing.
2545
02:18:38.450 --> 02:18:41.950
I don't get it. Like, I didn't get... It's just
2546
02:18:42.110 --> 02:18:46.219
not my genre at all. There was no storytelling to
2547
02:18:46.319 --> 02:18:50.700
speak of. Clearly... What is the Duvall kid's name?
2548
02:18:50.780 --> 02:18:51.520
Oh, James Duvall.
2549
02:18:51.559 --> 02:18:55.100
James Duvall. He clearly is obsessed with him. I will
2550
02:18:55.120 --> 02:18:55.680
give him that.
2551
02:18:55.819 --> 02:18:56.739
Yeah.
2552
02:18:56.819 --> 02:18:59.989
That was obvious. Yeah.
2553
02:19:01.190 --> 02:19:01.430
Yeah.
2554
02:19:01.610 --> 02:19:03.590
It's a particular thing.
2555
02:19:03.969 --> 02:19:07.270
Yeah. I mean, he's done several films since, some of
2556
02:19:07.309 --> 02:19:10.829
which I've seen, many of which I haven't. But... I
2557
02:19:10.870 --> 02:19:12.370
think the most recent film I saw of his was
2558
02:19:12.389 --> 02:19:16.520
Smiley Face, which I can sum up as a stoner
2559
02:19:16.620 --> 02:19:19.200
accidentally eats an entire pan of weed brownies and then
2560
02:19:19.239 --> 02:19:21.180
leaves the house. Ah.
2561
02:19:22.260 --> 02:19:23.979
Which might have happened in nowhere.
2562
02:19:25.579 --> 02:19:26.600
Wackiness ensues.
2563
02:19:26.760 --> 02:19:27.840
And wackiness ensues.
2564
02:19:27.909 --> 02:19:30.389
Yeah.
2565
02:19:31.370 --> 02:19:35.350
I was glad you were into something. I was paying
2566
02:19:35.590 --> 02:19:39.010
the toll for watching The Oval.
2567
02:19:39.690 --> 02:19:42.590
Ha ha ha! Okay.
2568
02:19:42.629 --> 02:19:44.870
By saying go ahead and put on Gregor Rocky. That's
2569
02:19:44.950 --> 02:19:46.430
actually what happened in our house.
2570
02:19:46.809 --> 02:19:47.190
Oh, okay.
2571
02:19:47.530 --> 02:19:50.909
Mm-hmm. Yeah. I still don't know why we watch them
2572
02:19:50.950 --> 02:19:53.129
and I don't know why they exist, but hey. Made
2573
02:19:53.170 --> 02:19:57.389
me happy. I'm glad that was the point. Yeah. That's
2574
02:19:57.409 --> 02:20:00.260
all I got about that. It's just, you know.
2575
02:20:01.219 --> 02:20:01.680
Fair enough.
2576
02:20:02.399 --> 02:20:07.479
I mean, there are certain films that I just am like, wow,
2577
02:20:07.559 --> 02:20:12.229
that drug to nowhere. You know, where the scene is
2578
02:20:12.270 --> 02:20:19.610
just way too long. Opening a can of soda. And
2579
02:20:19.649 --> 02:20:23.889
then she sipped it. That was a whole scene. Why
2580
02:20:23.930 --> 02:20:26.639
was that a whole scene? You know?
2581
02:20:27.120 --> 02:20:29.420
Well, that's not how Gregoraki films are. No, no, no.
2582
02:20:29.459 --> 02:20:37.120
But I'm saying, like, there are artistic films. The experimental. Where, yeah,
2583
02:20:37.159 --> 02:20:42.790
they turn nothing into something. And I'm bored out of
2584
02:20:42.829 --> 02:20:43.690
my fucking mind.
2585
02:20:44.290 --> 02:20:45.250
Fair enough. Yeah.
2586
02:20:45.389 --> 02:20:49.590
And this was somewhere in between that. I was like, okay, why?
2587
02:20:50.209 --> 02:20:52.000
And crazy. It's crazy.
2588
02:20:52.059 --> 02:20:52.590
It is crazy.
2589
02:20:52.639 --> 02:20:55.959
And the violence and the, it's like, yeah.
2590
02:20:56.819 --> 02:20:57.299
Fair enough.
2591
02:20:57.540 --> 02:21:00.600
This makes no sense. But I knew it was probably
2592
02:21:00.639 --> 02:21:04.379
not gonna. So at least it met expectations. How's that?
2593
02:21:04.399 --> 02:21:04.860
There you go.
2594
02:21:04.940 --> 02:21:13.139
Yeah. Kind of did. Like, yeah. I got nothing. Market show.
2595
02:21:13.639 --> 02:21:15.569
There were a lot of cameos, I will say that.
2596
02:21:15.950 --> 02:21:16.950
He knows a lot of people.
2597
02:21:17.389 --> 02:21:19.329
There's always cameos in Greg Rocky films.
2598
02:21:19.430 --> 02:21:20.649
There were a lot of cameos.
2599
02:21:21.409 --> 02:21:23.829
And you know what should make a cameo in our
2600
02:21:23.889 --> 02:21:24.510
show right now?
2601
02:21:24.809 --> 02:21:26.030
How about podcast business?
2602
02:21:26.090 --> 02:21:30.739
Yeah, let's do that. Okay. If you haven't already, why
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2624
02:22:53.100 --> 02:22:56.940
Okay. So, the world is a dumpster fire.
2625
02:22:56.959 --> 02:22:58.860
Uh-huh.
2626
02:22:59.479 --> 02:23:01.360
They're after our art.
2627
02:23:01.799 --> 02:23:02.000
Mm-hmm.
2628
02:23:02.860 --> 02:23:06.260
And Democrats are throwing trans people under the bus while
2629
02:23:06.399 --> 02:23:10.989
I watch Tyler Perry. I got nothing. And Gregor Rocky.
2630
02:23:11.100 --> 02:23:14.489
There it is, folks. That's where we find ourselves. This
2631
02:23:14.549 --> 02:23:19.909
is why Martha needs a job. Yeah. It's been a week.
2632
02:23:20.309 --> 02:23:24.270
It has. It's been a couple of weeks. I have
2633
02:23:24.329 --> 02:23:26.049
nothing left. You got anything?
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02:23:28.450 --> 02:23:33.530
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02:23:37.290 --> 02:23:38.889
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