Why the future belongs to the imaginative — what leaders can learn from art.
In this rich and provocative conversation, Tracey Camilleri welcomes best-selling author, entrepreneur, and professor Margaret Heffernan to talk about her latest book, Embracing Uncertainty: How Writers, Musicians, and Artists Thrive in an Unpredictable World.
Together they explore how creativity — long undervalued in our data-obsessed, STEM-centric culture — might just be the most essential leadership skill of all. From the dangers of over-measuring what matters, to what leaders can learn from poets, painters, and protest artists, Margaret makes a compelling case for rediscovering the human capacity for imagination and curiosity in uncertain times.
Expect insights on:
• Why “efficiency” may be your organisation’s biggest weakness
• What drawing someone’s face can teach you about leadership
• How to stop being a “dancing bear” in your own life
• The deep social intelligence embedded in the arts
• And why we should beware the seductive illusion of certainty
This is a conversation about reclaiming our agency, attention, and creative courage — in work, in leadership, and in life.
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The Collective Intelligence podcast is hosted by Tracey Camilleri and Sam Rockey, founders and directors of Thompson Harrison.
Contact details in the Links section below.
Embracing Uncertainty book ·
Margaret Heffernan's website ·
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