The Freeloader Problem: When Voices Feed Off Others’ Work

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This is Jerry Eicher from Anabaptist Theological Perspective,
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and I would like to venture into the subject of,
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what I'm going to borrow a phrase from evolutionary theology,
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which has given us the name of an actually an old phenomenon,
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the freeloader or the free rider. And,
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I'm going to primarily keep the subject in the realm of the political arena,
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which is where we are seeing it sort of explode before everybody's eyes.
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And it's being done within the Christian community. The concepts of right and
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wrong, good and evil, those are all Christian concepts.
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And without Christianity, those wouldn't be. But that's a whole other subject.
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But anyway, that's where it's really expressing itself and where most people
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are going to be familiar with.
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But it's not the only place where it's manifesting itself.
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It's manifesting itself all across social media, where people are considered
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themselves qualified, in tune, in place to comment on anything.
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And it's a specific characteristic which the comment takes.
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It's not a studied, considered, grounded in truth. And that would mean that
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you have lived this truth that you're speaking out of in your own life.
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And this would be something that Jordan Peterson has gone to great lengths to
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explain that our speaking must be grounded in,
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what we ourselves have lived out, that if we borrow ideas and concepts from
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people and however grand we might think they are.
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If they're not ours, meaning both lived out and real in our own lives,
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then it is really an untruth that we're speaking.
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And it involves the whole thing of exalting yourself, but we will get into that
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as we walk through this freeloader problem.
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And it's an ancient—well, first of all, what is a freeloader?
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The evolutionary biology has identified it as once a system gets going,
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and just listen to the broad implications of this, so we are a community,
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we're a society, we're everything that we're familiar with, but that system
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is not just running along on its own steam.
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It is undergirded by rules that we don't even think about once it gets going,
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that involve how the community cooperates and agrees upon certain standards, how it's function.
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It just is there.
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We don't spend a lot of time analyzing it. We don't often know it.
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And those things are there. This is a very important point, that they are there.
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Not just by somebody's whim, they're there from years and decades and sometimes
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centuries of work that someone has put into living out,
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not just living out, yes, but living out what they believe and putting it into the practical world.
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And that these, like I said, these standards and these rules are often unspoken and unwritten.
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Okay, so it is the, again, this is an unread rule, unspoken a little often,
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but it is expected that if you want to contribute in that community,
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that you would first of all,
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submit yourself to its standards and that you would live your life according
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to what is already there.
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So you would comply with the rules, first of all, that would be the basic thing expected of you.
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So, let's just broaden this real quickly because it's coming to my mind The
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immigration problem that we have,
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not just here in the U.S., but all across the Western world It has always been
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assumed that if you want to,
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move to a Western world That it will involve, as its basic premise,
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out of the gate, is that you assimilate You take upon yourself,
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the language and the culture and what is there, and that you respect it.
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That is completely being, that's
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all being ignored, but that's what a freeloader does, or a free rider.
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He comes in, and in evolutionary biology, this would be an organism or a cell,
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can decide to reap the benefits of the cooperative system.
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And Jordan Peterson does a very good job of walking this through of what is
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being done at the university. So you have the prestigious universities,
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Harvard, Yale, Oxford, all the British ones, the ones that we know of.
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These are not there by accident.
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Somebody put a lot of work into them. They're undergirded by real substance or were.
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And liberals come in, progressives, whatever you want to call them.
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And they have ideas that they have never made work. Socialism,
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communism, just to simplify things, those have never worked anywhere.
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They've always slaughtered thousands and thousands of people.
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So it's never worked. But what do you do?
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What do they do? They come into a system that's already working,
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already been established, and they begin to promote their ideas,
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which have never worked.
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They get away with it because they are freeloaders. They're riding on top.
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Jordan Peterson calls them parasites in the university setting. And.
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They have no energy or contribution of their own to supply to that university
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because none of their ideas supplies anything. It's all ruinous.
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So what do they have to do? They have to live off of what's already there. So they are eating food.
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Oh, it's a thousand different ways that it's being done at the,
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or I've got little bits and tidbits.
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They're breaking the rules all the time. Plagiarism, how many liberals have
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been caught with that problem?
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And it's just, it's hard to put your finger on one specific thing,
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but that's what's being done.
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Ideas and concepts and imaginations that are just live in your mind.
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You've never lived them, and you can't live them because you can't make it work.
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But you come into a system, and you ride on top of another system that is working,
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and now you can express your ideas and your great-sounding things and survive
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because you're living off of the host.
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That's the general idea of it. Okay, this is an ancient problem.
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So we go back to Scripture where the Apostle Paul identified this problem.
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And again, he doesn't really spell it out, but this is what he means.
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He says, if a man shall not work, he shall not eat.
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So what's the context of that? What does that mean? If a man shall not work, he shall not eat.
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I'm assuming he's working off of the book of Acts where they perhaps had an
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extension of that idea of having everything in common in the book of Acts.
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They shared each other's food, clothing, whatever it was.
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If you came in and made yourself part of the brotherhood, then you got to have
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your needs met, some of them.
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And that was regulated in the Book of Acts by deacons who were over the distribution.
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But supposing someone who, and Paul is not calling them freeloaders,
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but that's what they are. Somebody comes in and he decides he just wants the
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benefit of this community. He's not going to contribute anything. He's not going to work.
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He's not going to, and again, let's say it again, first of all,
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he's not going to submit to the rules and the standards and the way it's expected
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that everybody should live.
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That's what he's not going to submit to because he doesn't want to.
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He wants to live out his own ideas and his own things. So he doesn't submit to it.
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But he still wants the benefits. So he still wants the food,
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clothing, and the housing that the community supplies. And Paul says,
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no, we're not going to find that acceptable.
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Okay, so my question is, how is Paul going to enforce this? Because it relates
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to how are we supposed to deal with this freeloader situation?
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And it's a real question.
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It has come down to, I mean, maybe there are still levels of the Christian community
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where this problem hasn't penetrated it to, but it's getting close to the bottom,
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where everybody is becoming aware that there is a problem.
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And so what do you do about it? What do you do with this man who comes in and,
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insists on partaking of the benefits, but he's not going to contribute anything?
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So let's just walk through it. Our natural, because this relates to our present
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day, what are we going to do? We're going to destroy the man's reputation?
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Are we going to try to find all the things that are wrong with him?
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And Paul is saying nothing of that. He's not saying that's the approach.
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He says, don't let him participate.
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Continue doing what you're doing.
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Just cut him out. Just don't let him participate. and that is what niggles at
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me as to what the solution is and i'm not at the bottom of it not sure working my way through,
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listening to what other people are saying how it should be done but that seems to be.
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What the answer should be at least in my mind what i'm seeing at this point
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is that so there'd be two things.
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Make sure that the life of the community continues.
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I think that would be fair to put that in Paul's statement.
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He's not expecting that the sharing within the community stops or that the work
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within the community stops or the preaching or none of that would stop.
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The community does not allow itself to be brought to a screeching halt,
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but the community does exclude.
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Food, it puts him out somehow, some form, rejects the freeloader that's trying
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to eat without working. Paul.
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Would understand, he's simply saying, stop giving him any food,
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stop giving him any attention.
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And in our day and age, I know what would happen,
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the screams and the howls of cruelty, and well, you're not using everybody else
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like that, And you're not, that's not how this been, and what I'm doing is no
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worse than everyone else.
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Those are all attempts to, from the freeloader, to circumvent that rejection.
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But it needs to occur. So just to go through it again, I would see,
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that's what would be the foundation of where I would base my thoughts on.
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Make sure the community continues and simply reject him.
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You don't have to attack him. You don't have to go into his reputation.
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Don't have to do tit for tat. You don't have to tell how bad he is and horrible
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other than explaining what he's doing, which I'm going to. I think that's legitimate.
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But don't give him anything.
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Okay, so let's go through it in the political world, which has been just a tremendous tragedy,
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particularly since Charlie Kirk's death and that awesome, unbelievable funeral
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that they had and how the Holy Spirit was there.
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Unbelievable. People were touched. People heard the gospel.
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And what has been, what has happened since that?
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I think we need to fully look at this and fully understand the horrendous horror of what has occurred.
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And we can only, or I can only see the, perhaps begin to see the full breadth
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and length of it by thinking back to that funeral and how we all felt.
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I mean, when Charlie was murdered, I came home and I think my wife told me,
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she said, Charlie Kirk's been shot.
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And I remember the weight that settled on me of sorrow and sadness.
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I mourned. I literally mourned. I didn't know Charlie Kirk that well,
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but I mourned for him. And I knew, I felt what it was. It was the mourning for a martyr.
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And I heard a lot of people online express that same sentiment.
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That's how we reacted to this unholy act of killing that man.
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And then a week later, they had the funeral.
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I mean, let's just ponder of what happened at that funeral. Millions of people,
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I think, whatever the numbers are, heard the gospel, and it was clearly preached that day.
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And the guy who most clearly preached it was Tucker Carlson.
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He said it so clearly and so plainly. And there was this momentum.
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This joy in the air that we were going to go.
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A great distance on this momentum of this martyr. And what happened almost immediately,
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this phenomenon of the freeloader showed up in full, screaming,
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horrible strength in Candace Olin,
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who appropriated this task for herself, which is what the freeloader does. He takes upon himself,
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the cause that's already ongoing. So what is the cause that's already ongoing?
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Well, the government wants to find the murderer, the one who's shot,
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and bring him to justice, which takes a good long time.
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Candace Owen appropriates that task. She rides on top of that.
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Nobody asked her to do it.
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And she launches her own investigative endeavor around the events associated with Charlie's death.
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And it's very important to understand how the freeloader has to operate because,
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and I'm not sure I understand the psychology of this, but the purpose of the
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freeloader's endeavor is never the cause for which the freeloader appropriates itself.
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It is the benefit to itself. So let's go back to Paul's example, just to make that clear.
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The guy that comes into the community that's already functioning, and he just wants to eat.
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That's the only thing he has on his mind. All he wants is the food.
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He will, of course, mouth all the platitudes, and one would expect him to pronounce
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himself in agreement to everything the community believes, and maybe even more.
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But what he's really after is just the food.
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So Candace comes in, and let's just walk this through. So what could she have done?
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Okay, if she was truly interested in finding Charlie Kirk's murderer,
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then she would need to operate within how the community finds that murderer.
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Okay but in the freeloader's mind there's one problem with that that will not draw attention to,
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the freeloader it will not give the freeloader the ego boost the make him the
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center of attention that that he wants he doesn't he's not getting anything
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he's just contributing see,
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so the purpose of the freeloader is not to contribute to the community and to
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actually find Charlie's murderer,
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Candace Owen's purpose is to.
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Maximize in the best way that she can herself.
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The money she's going to make out of this, I mean, she has made tremendous amounts of money.
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I don't even, I have no idea of the numbers, but I heard,
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and again, I have no way to verify this, but I heard that she just did last
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Friday, did a debate with Andrew Wilson, and I saw some comments that she was
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paid a fairly large amount of money for that.
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I don't know that's true, but it wouldn't surprise me because the freeloader
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never works within the normal laid down rules of the community,
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either in living them herself,
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himself, either one, or in functioning that way.
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There are. There are normal rules and procedures which the law enforcement is
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following, and Candace Owen could have come in and worked within those systems,
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contributed where she can to find them.
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Okay, so what, so let's look at this one.
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So what does she do, or what is being done, what's the first step in,
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the freeloader becoming his, or what right What right does the freeloader appeal
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in us to their listeners to why they should become,
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the center of attention? And now.
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The arbiter of all that's true and right, because that's what Canada's old. What is that trigger?
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Okay, it has to do with their delegitimization of the institution.
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Any institution. And institutions are, by their nature, flawed,
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and they have been becoming more and more flawed.
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I've done my own complaining about that. I know that's true.
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So, in our untangling of this problem, we're going to have to deal with that somewhere.
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But maybe the institutions, I'm trying to give justification with it.
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Not really, but I'm being honest. Okay, so the institutions have allowed themselves
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to deteriorate to the point where it's become easy to attack them. Okay.
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That doesn't mean that's the approach that you should take. If we are going
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to solve the problem, we're going to have to go back and deal with this institutional
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rot and decay that has been occurring.
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But the answer is not the freeloader. Freeloader then uses that problem,
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which needs to be fixed, decay in the institution, with this vision of perfection.
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Communism does it, Marxism, whatever. They all do it. They give you this vision
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of absolute perfection, which they alone can supply. Yes.
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Which they have never made work. Candace Owen has never run an investigation
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that has actually found something of substance.
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She has never contributed. She's not contributed to one thing,
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to the actual finding of getting to the bottom of who murdered Charlie Kirk.
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The law enforcements are doing that, plodding along in their own imperfect way,
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which all institutions are imperfect. We're going to have to allow that.
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The freeloader attempts to remove that from the constitution of an institution.
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She says, or he says, that the institution has to be perfect.
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And because I can find even one little flaw in the institution,
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that gives me the right to present myself, yes, as the solution to the problem.
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I am now the great wisdom arbitrator of all things and what comes out of my understanding.
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And I am now given the right because the institution, their flaws in the institutions
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are not perfect to lead us all to the path of perfection.
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That's what does and.
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Just to go over a little bit, any normal work within what the community understands,
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community norms, would dilute the motive for which the freeloader is launching his project.
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Besides, this is off of a Facebook post that I did, if you're interested in
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going there and reading it.
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And so any working within the normals, the norms of what we are to have come
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to expect would dilute the attention that the freeloader wants for him or herself.
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So what does the freeloader have to do? Since you can't operate within the norms
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of the institution or the communities, well, you have to make your own.
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You literally have to invent a new world, and that is Candace Owen.
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In this way, the work of the freeloader in this cause draws the maximum attention
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on itself because she is, or he is,
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inventing his own way of doing things.
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And there is no...
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Need, and this is very important, this is no need to demonstrate that this is
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actually benefiting the community around you because that's not the point.
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The point is no longer to benefit the community or to build people up around you.
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The benefit is only yourself. So the point becomes, the modus operandi becomes,
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how can I draw the most attention to myself?
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So the freeloader accomplishes this by the invention of its own rules and methods
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that the freeloader brings to the project. So.
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We can now do whatever we want. We can read a statement and we can bring our
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own interpretation to that statement, divorced completely of what would normally
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be required if you read words.
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Words mean things, structures of sentences, what is the person you would up
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to, what is in meaning for it, that can all be now ignored.
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And I can just, I can come up with my own thoughts and possibilities of what this could mean.
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And I can say them in the most outrageous, loud way possible,
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because my motive is not to actually accomplish what would have been accomplished
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under the old system, under the institution.
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It is to draw attention to me, to get people back to the next podcast,
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to keep them glued to the whatever listening, watching that I'm at.
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It is to make me the center.
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And as in all expressions of self, when you make yourself the center,
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you become a destructive force,
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which that in the free world's mind has already been taken care of because you
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are now, you'd be totally free to destroy the institution completely, tear people down,
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is back to our communist Marxism, that's what they did.
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How many millions of people died in Russia, China, or was it other little country that went.
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Drove all the people out, shot everybody that had any kind of education,
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so on and so forth, was all, didn't matter because it needed to be tore down.
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That kind of, let me say it as clearly as I can, that is the most,
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that is totally, and utterly unchristian.
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That is not the way of God. That is not how biblical Christianity built itself.
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It is not, never was, never will be.
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So to repeat again, there simply is no way within the Christian understanding
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and the Christian community,
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a functioning Christian church that you can tolerate the freeloader or accommodate
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a freeloader or make peace with what the freeloader is doing.
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You cannot appease them.
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You cannot call them off. You cannot make peace with them. Paul made no attempt,
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to make peace to, you know, the guy who didn't want to work.
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Well, maybe we can go halfway or something, or maybe, yeah, I understand that
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hungry people, all those reasoning that you could have had. You know,
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hungry people, we don't want to see you suffer.
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So let's, no. Paul said, reject him.
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Reject it. Because it is totally outside the realms of building the community,
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making things work properly, and finding solutions to problems.
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The freeloader will contribute nothing to that but chaos.
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So let's walk through some more how the freeloader thinks.
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And Candace Owen famously brought this to the forefront with her statement that
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she says, we don't know, no.
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So again, say, we don't know, no, but we know.
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Okay, say that again. We don't know, no, but we know.
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Okay, Ben Shapiro, which, okay, this is interesting about Ben Shapiro.
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Ben Shapiro is directly confronting these freeloaders, both in Candace Owen
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and in then Tucker Carlson, which went so tragically bad since the funeral.
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It's just one of the great, great tragedies that has happened in the Christian
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community and on the political level. I saw a whole article on him,
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which had the same sentiment.
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In fact, that article said that that is one of the greatest tragedies the Christian
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community has experienced in quite a long time is the loss of Tucker Carlson.
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The man had, I still sorrow thinking about what he said at the funeral,
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what he was, the clarity of it.
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And to have him join this freeloader cause is just, it's sad to see.
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Anyways, so Ben Shapiro is confronting the freeloaders.
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And we at least need to pay attention to that. I don't know that that's the
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right approach for sure.
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And he does it by pointing out how wrong they are in attacking them personally.
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I would almost call that walking through their stuff. But anyway,
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that's another whole subject.
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So he, and this is how he does it, okay?
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He noted that this statement that we don't know, know, but we know was not only
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retarded, that the statement was retarded, but that all who had heard the statement,
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had been rendered more retarded.
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So that's putting the sword right underneath the fifth rib, to use a biblical allegory.
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That's trying to get to the heart, take the preloader out.
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So I'm not saying that isn't right, or that's not the right thing to do.
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One of the things I'm still working my way through, watching, observing,
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but at least acknowledge that that's going on by, he's not a Christian man,
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Shapiro isn't, but he's that type
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of old Jewish moral correctness that the Christian faith is based upon.
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Anyways, the point is that in the world of the fleeloader, this is not retarded at all.
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This statement makes perfect sense.
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So what Candace is saying is that we don't know, no. So she's saying,
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we don't know this, whatever I'm saying, by the old community standards.
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That is what she's saying.
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And we no longer have to establish things by the old hard evidence.
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We no longer have to really demonstrate that it actually was the way I think it was.
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We don't have to make sure that what we think this sentence says or this action
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says, that it actually means that, that that is the implication of it, those are all gone now.
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So we no longer need to know, no. We just need to know. Yes.
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By our own, what comes out of our own hearts and minds is now the new knowing.
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So if I feel it, if I see it, if I see that insinuation in that sentence.
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If I want to spin the truth this way, then as long as I know,
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as long as I'm sure that that's what I see, that's all we need.
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Building their own worlds.
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It's a fantasy world. And again, to repeat, that can have no part of Christianity
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in the Christian community, in the Christian church, especially in the Anabaptist world.
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To the extent, and we are dealing with this. Don't quite want to go into it
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yet, but we're conservative.
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Baptist Cooney is being hit hard with this problem right now.
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We can't go there. The problems within our community need to be fixed,
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need to be worked on, but we cannot make peace with a freeloader.
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We cannot, we cannot work with them.
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We have to somehow lock, reject their influence completely out because it's
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not going to contribute to anything that needs to be wholesomely done because
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that's not even their motive.
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Freeloader gets to spin the evidence to say whatever he or she says it says or means.
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The smallest nuances become the greatest mountains, and they do this simply
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by their spinning of their own emotions.
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Hence, the freeloader is the center, the guiding force.
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She is the decider of all things, everywhere and at all times.
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They're the center. It's evil, its exalting self to the highest place.
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And this freeloader then, because of her self-appointed status,
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she gets to talk to people that she would have no access to,
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great leaders, and people contact her, and everybody's sending her.
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I mean, Candace Owens talks about all these thousands of people who are sending her information.
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The same thing goes on with any kind of freeloader. The people flock to them. They send them.
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She gets all kinds of attention because of these outrageous things that she's
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doing and spinning and the destruction that she's causing.
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And it flocks and great men, church officials in our Baptist world,
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who wouldn't deem to talk to a person like this or to any little—it wouldn't even—I mean, our—.
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The levels that we run in, they don't even barely have any kind of council with
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a church member. You have to be a minister.
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But suddenly this freeloader, they will talk to them.
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And this freeloader has access to the highest levels of government and the church world.
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It's a horrible exaltation of self, horrible, and it will bring nothing but
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destruction. It will not repair one problem.
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It will not build one thing.
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That's only done within the community in the established ways that people have,
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learned to cooperate together. And if there's something wrong with that, fine, fix that.
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But that's how it's done. And by submission, I'm going to say it again,
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by submission to the rules of the community.
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And the one thing, first thing a freeloader will do is they will not submit
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to those normal ways of doings.
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And the rejection that they rightly get for that is the burning bitterness that's
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in their hearts against the system, against the institution.
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And that's why they, I think, really, is driven by bitterness and hatred,
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because people have told them that their own lives are wrong and are not in
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place. The community has rejected them, so now they're going to tear the communities down.
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I really think that's also not the very heart of it. So there is no making peace,
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because the freeloader is about
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himself. He wraps himself in a self-appropriated cause, a cause which...
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Enough said for now. It's become a huge problem. So not only do we have,
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are we stuck with these institutional problems that need to be fixed?
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We have many problems in the church that need to be worked on.
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And one could go back to Charlie's funeral. You know, the world was opening.
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The door was opening to preaching the gospel, the real answer to what so many
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people need. We're at the cusp.
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And what destroys it? The freeloader.
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And every effort that we apparently are going to undertake to take care of real
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needed problems are being sabotaged by this appearance of the freeloader.
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So there you have it for now. Don't know what all the answers are,
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how to find them, but that's our problem. Okay?