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I'd like to start with that matter of security. I'd
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love your greater thoughts on the political violence that this
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country is I fear growing used to. The fact of
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the matter is, most lawmakers I have talked to this
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week have been very modest about their own security. When
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I've asked them if they feel safe, if they think
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they should have a security detail. No one has demanded that,
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but reports suggest that there is an outcry on Capitol
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Hill for more to be done. And I wonder what
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you think when you walk out the door in the morning,
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if if you think you should have a security detail.
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Well, Joe, and it's good to be back with you.
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I'm glad to have the opportunity to talk about this
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because I even my own opinion has shifted over the
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last number of years. My answer, my first answer to
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this question is always that you know, I serve in
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the most representative body in the entire world, the one
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that is the closest to the people, and access to
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their representatives is something that we absolutely have to maintain.
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And you knowecurity is around you tightly. People get intimidated
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and they feel less comfortable approaching their own representative. At
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the same time, though I mean, I had a pipe
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bomb delivered to my office along with fifteen other politicians
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around the country, where my return address was and my
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name was on the return address of every package. The
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bomb had to be detonated in the stairwell of my
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district office building. There are Paul Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi's husband
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attacked with a hammer. I've gotten countless death threats. I
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have on and off police outside my house. And then
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it's to the point where making sure that my constituents
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are protected when I am somewhere, especially if there's been
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public notice, and myself and protecting myself and my family
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is essential. So an increased security presence needs to occur.
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How we deal with that is something that we need
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to discuss to maintain that balance between accessibility and security.
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Well, it's chilling hearing you describe all of that. That
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pipe bomb was not a fake, I think is part
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of your point. How does it make you feel when
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the president says that this is the fault of a
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radical left.
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It is incomprehensible to me. We have a president who
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is not able to meet this moment. I mean every
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major elected official that I know, democratic elected official that
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I know, including myself put out a statement of sorrow
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for me, initially wishing mister Kirk hopefully a quick recovery
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and then expressing.
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Sorrow about his killing, and.
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Also that we need to make sure that political violence
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is never, never the answer, and whether we disagree vehemently
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or not, we all have to make sure we tamp
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things down and the president is raptur doing things up.
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George W.
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Bush after nine to eleven when the World Trade Center
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was attacked Pentagon, I mean the plane crash in Pennsylvania,
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he met the moment.
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He brought us together.
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He tamped down Islamophobia and anti Semitism. And President Obama
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after the Mother Emmanuel killings, did the same and brought
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this to the country together.
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Blaming one side or the other.
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Is not going to enable us to be able to
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cool things down and make sure that we work together.
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I do think Governor Cox who is really taking the
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right tone here from Utah, and that's really the example
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we need to follow.
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Of course, noteworthy that Governor Cox is a Republican who
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you're complimenting here, who said our adversaries want violence, Our
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adversaries want violence. We have bots from Russia, China, all
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over the world trying to instill disinformation. I would encourage
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you to ignore those. This is a big part of this.
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And by the way, no worthy. I remember very well
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when President George W. Bush visited a mosque. It was
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on the seventeenth of September two thousand and one. Is
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there an equivalent move that this president could make at
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this time now?
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You know, I hope he uses the moment to address
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the country and set emanate healing words and ask us
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all to you know, find our better angels and come
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together and try to be less vitriolic. People feel very
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strongly about you know, a lot of issues right now
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on both sides. And I think, you know, to quote
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or to paraphrase mister Kirk, you know, we should put
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our phones down, tell our kids to put our phones down,
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stop drowning in social media and outrage, and and really
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try to come together as human beings, human contact, human communication,
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making sure that we get to know each other better
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as people.
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When I have an opportunity Joe.
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To talk to another a colleague on the other side
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of the aisle, and I'm trying to win them over
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on an issue they disagree with me on, it is
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always so much easier when we're looking at each other
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in the eye and we sit down next to each other.
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I have always found that people like to do, like
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to help people that they like and that they think
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are nice. And you don't get to know somebody and
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know whether they're nice or if they have any good
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qualities unless we really try to speak to them directly.
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We all need to work on that.
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I've only got about a minute left, Congresswoman. What's going
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to happen when everybody comes back. There was already no
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trust between Democrats and Republicans, which is why we keep
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talking about a government shutdown. I'm guessing we're not going
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to have a post nine to eleven kind of unity here.
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Will Democrats and Republicans work together to fund the government?
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Well, speaking as a senior appropriator, there is certainly the
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opportunity to do that, and the ball is in the
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Republicans court. I mean, we can work together on a
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bipartisan funding bill, make sure that we don't terminate the
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Obamacare tax credits, and bring the cost of healthcare down,
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make life more affordable. I'm going to go shopping tomorrow
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for my family's tailgate tailgate supplies, and there's a Trump
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tailgate tax that we all pay, whether it's ground b.
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For produce or cheese, and the Trump tailgate tax has
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to be addressed.
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We have to make sure that we come together, and
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we have an opportunity to do that.
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But if Republicans take this go along
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Strategy and ignore the affordability crisis that Americans are facing,
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then they will be the ones that shot the government down.
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I'd like to start with that matter of security. I'd
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love your greater thoughts on the political violence that this
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country is I fear growing used to. The fact of
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the matter is, most lawmakers I have talked to this
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week have been very modest about their own security. When
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I've asked them if they feel safe, if they think
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they should have a security detail. No one has demanded that,
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but reports suggest that there is an outcry on Capitol
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Hill for more to be done. And I wonder what
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you think when you walk out the door in the morning,
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if if you think you should have a security detail.
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Well, Joe, and it's good to be back with you.
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I'm glad to have the opportunity to talk about this
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because I even my own opinion has shifted over the
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last number of years. My answer, my first answer to
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this question is always that you know, I serve in
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the most representative body in the entire world, the one
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that is the closest to the people, and access to
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their representatives is something that we absolutely have to maintain.
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And you knowecurity is around you tightly. People get intimidated
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and they feel less comfortable approaching their own representative. At
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the same time, though I mean, I had a pipe
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bomb delivered to my office along with fifteen other politicians
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around the country, where my return address was and my
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name was on the return address of every package. The
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bomb had to be detonated in the stairwell of my
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district office building. There are Paul Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi's husband
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attacked with a hammer. I've gotten countless death threats. I
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have on and off police outside my house. And then
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it's to the point where making sure that my constituents
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are protected when I am somewhere, especially if there's been
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public notice, and myself and protecting myself and my family
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is essential. So an increased security presence needs to occur.
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How we deal with that is something that we need
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to discuss to maintain that balance between accessibility and security.
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Well, it's chilling hearing you describe all of that. That
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pipe bomb was not a fake, I think is part
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of your point. How does it make you feel when
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the president says that this is the fault of a
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radical left.
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It is incomprehensible to me. We have a president who
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is not able to meet this moment. I mean every
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major elected official that I know, democratic elected official that
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I know, including myself put out a statement of sorrow
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for me, initially wishing mister Kirk hopefully a quick recovery
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and then expressing.
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Sorrow about his killing, and.
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Also that we need to make sure that political violence
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is never, never the answer, and whether we disagree vehemently
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or not, we all have to make sure we tamp
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things down and the president is raptur doing things up.
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George W.
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Bush after nine to eleven when the World Trade Center
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was attacked Pentagon, I mean the plane crash in Pennsylvania,
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he met the moment.
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He brought us together.
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He tamped down Islamophobia and anti Semitism. And President Obama
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after the Mother Emmanuel killings, did the same and brought
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this to the country together.
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Blaming one side or the other.
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Is not going to enable us to be able to
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cool things down and make sure that we work together.
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I do think Governor Cox who is really taking the
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right tone here from Utah, and that's really the example
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we need to follow.
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Of course, noteworthy that Governor Cox is a Republican who
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you're complimenting here, who said our adversaries want violence, Our
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adversaries want violence. We have bots from Russia, China, all
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over the world trying to instill disinformation. I would encourage
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you to ignore those. This is a big part of this.
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And by the way, no worthy. I remember very well
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when President George W. Bush visited a mosque. It was
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on the seventeenth of September two thousand and one. Is
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there an equivalent move that this president could make at
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this time now?
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You know, I hope he uses the moment to address
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the country and set emanate healing words and ask us
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all to you know, find our better angels and come
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together and try to be less vitriolic. People feel very
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strongly about you know, a lot of issues right now
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on both sides. And I think, you know, to quote
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or to paraphrase mister Kirk, you know, we should put
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our phones down, tell our kids to put our phones down,
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stop drowning in social media and outrage, and and really
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try to come together as human beings, human contact, human communication,
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making sure that we get to know each other better
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as people.
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When I have an opportunity Joe.
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To talk to another a colleague on the other side
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of the aisle, and I'm trying to win them over
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on an issue they disagree with me on, it is
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always so much easier when we're looking at each other
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in the eye and we sit down next to each other.
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I have always found that people like to do, like
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to help people that they like and that they think
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are nice. And you don't get to know somebody and
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know whether they're nice or if they have any good
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qualities unless we really try to speak to them directly.
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We all need to work on that.
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I've only got about a minute left, Congresswoman. What's going
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to happen when everybody comes back. There was already no
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trust between Democrats and Republicans, which is why we keep
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talking about a government shutdown. I'm guessing we're not going
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to have a post nine to eleven kind of unity here.
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Will Democrats and Republicans work together to fund the government?
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Well, speaking as a senior appropriator, there is certainly the
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opportunity to do that, and the ball is in the
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Republicans court. I mean, we can work together on a
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bipartisan funding bill, make sure that we don't terminate the
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Obamacare tax credits, and bring the cost of healthcare down,
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make life more affordable. I'm going to go shopping tomorrow
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for my family's tailgate tailgate supplies, and there's a Trump
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tailgate tax that we all pay, whether it's ground b.
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For produce or cheese, and the Trump tailgate tax has
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to be addressed.
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We have to make sure that we come together, and
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we have an opportunity to do that.
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But if Republicans take this go along
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Strategy and ignore the affordability crisis that Americans are facing,
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then they will be the ones that shot the government down.