What is The GATE Program? with Jason Bermas & Ryder Lee

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Hey, everybody, Jason Burmas here and we've got a banger
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of an episode for you. We're gonna be talking about
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the Gate Program, and in particularly a documentary done by Riderly,
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which anything go get at Amazon dot com right now
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based on the subject. Now, I'll be honest, I do
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not know much about the quote unquote Gate Program. I
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have seen in the last couple of years a lot
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more banter and chatter, if you will, on this program,
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and a lot of different short form videos kind of
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in the TikTok and Instagram language, which most of you know,
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if you know me, I'm not a part of. I
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do a lot more long form stuff. I am much
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more on the YouTube. And even then that's not really
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where I get my alternative media research. It's usually the
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raw documentation, interviews and that sort of thing. So it's
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good to have a guest like Ryder Lee who has
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done that research. Ryder, before we even get into the
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Gate Program, your documentary film, and we're going to watch
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the trailer for it. First and foremost, let my audience
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know about yourself and how you got into the alternative
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media arena.
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Well, as you know, Jason, one of my forays into
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the Alternative Community was documentary that you were a part of,
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Loose Change. I brought you on my show and we
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talked about some Loose Change and some Epstein stuff, which
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Epstein is actually wrapped up into some of this Gate
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Program things in the way of Gisleen Maxwell's father being
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taken to New York To oversee the purchase of mcmellan Inc.
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Which mcmellan Inc. Would later be named McGraw hill, which
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was responsible for a lot of the elementary school books
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in America that people are raised on. But I'm sure
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we will get into that. But I am a documentary filmmaker,
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I'm a podcaster. I have other documentaries on Amazon Prime
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as well. Jfkix Solving The Crime of the Century, A
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Clockwork Shining at Kubrick's Odyssey three that are also available
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on Amazon Prime. My latest and newest documentary, Psychic Agent
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The Gay Program, is now live on Amazon Prime. Hopefully
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we can get a link in the description for people
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to get easy access to that. And I also have DVDs.
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If people are interested in purchasing a DVD physical copy
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of the movie, just reach out to me. Raised by
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a giants at outlook dot Com. Thanks so much for
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having me on brother.
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For sure, and it is any kind of refreshing to
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still have physical media here in twenty twenty six, I
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find myself buying more and more of that physical media,
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especially when it's in the realm of NASA and things
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like that, in particular, whether it's hardcover books on the subject.
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I've even got a VHS upstairs where you know, I
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got the VHS and I'm like, man, it was still sealed,
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but I do have VCRs to capture, like I'm that
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kind of dork, but I wanted to see if somebody
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else had already captured it. Luckily they did, so I
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was able to just download that and keep it as
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kind of a collector's item. But I think that especially
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in today's day and age, when so much is digital manipulation,
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and I mean that by narrative manipulation mostly, it is
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really important to maybe have some physical media, even if
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that's a USB drive with these type of films on it,
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because yeah, then you can just be at somebody's house.
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You don't have to be the weirdo with like a
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DVD something this big or a book this big, literally
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like pull it out of your little pocket and be like, hey,
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let's check out the laptop real quick and we'll just
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copy and paste some files. Even though apparently they're not
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even teaching kids in school that are hooked to their
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computers how to copy and paste files. We could maybe
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get into that in the education system in a moment,
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but it is refreshing to see that some people still
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take physical media and you know, a historical record. Seriously,
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So speaking of historical records, give you that historical record
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of gate.
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What is it?
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When did it start? When did it get on your radar?
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Yes, physical media, I believe is really making a comeback.
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I have my original entire DVD collection that I held
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on too, and I believe that sealed DVDs are going
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to be the next really popular collectible and collectible space.
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We're seeing a really big boom of TCG you know cards,
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sports cards, even Dragon Ball Z cards, Pokemon cards. It's
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a huge explosion right now in the collectible market, and
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I believe DVDs, sealed DVDs are going to be really
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popular in the future. So it is really important to
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have a physical copy of this stuff. So where a
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lot of this started is in nineteen fifty eight when
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the United States launched its first satellite in the space
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called Explore one on January of nineteen fifty eight, just
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a little while after Russia had launched their satellite Sputnik
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in the space. A lot of things were happening in
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nineteen fifty eight. As you know, DHARPA was established in
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nineteen fifty eight, NASSA was established in nineteen fifty eight,
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and the government officially became involved with the public school
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system in nineteen fifty eight.
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And this is really when.
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From the launching of Sputnik really freaked out the Eisenhower administration, right,
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and we were really lacking in scientists and engineers, and
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we really needed to study and get into the public
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school system to try and find the really smart individuals
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that we could then recruit and bring into the military
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and bring into the through out of organizations and inventors
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and people like that.
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Right.
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So that's really the inception of and I believe that
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it really evolved from there. So it was started with
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this this few between the United States and Russia because
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Russia actually got more Nazis scientists and engineers. And I'm
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just calling them Nazi not as like a political ideology,
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but just to give them a title at that for
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a second.
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So for those that don't understand, because again they barely
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even teach World War Two anymore kids, right, and we've
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got this cartoon idea. It's the United States versus the Nazis,
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and the truth of the matter is that without Russia
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there is no US victory. It doesn't matter about the
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nuclear bombs. They're the ones on the ground on these
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borders sending people into the meat grinder. And then what
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they don't understand, even if they're hipped to things such
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as Project paper Clip, where we went in and grabbed
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a bunch of Nazis, and quite frankly, historically a lot
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of those people are at the forefront of NASA and
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our space program. You know, you already talked about Sputnik,
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but before DARPA, there was ARPA, and that was largely
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in response to this. The Nazis were also scooped up
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by Russia. And for instance, one of the more famous
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pair of brothers would be the Horton brothers that were
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scooped up by Russia. And they were just so important
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because of their work in I guess aerodynamics propulsion systems.
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They were the first ones to bring us this wing
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like aerial device, and back in the day when it
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was the Horton Brothers wing, it was wooden. But you
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clearly see this is where the stealth bomber comes from.
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Like it's almost the same exact model, etc. So we
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in the United States at that point, after the Russians
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had already kind of had them and did whatever Dick
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and Dickon do they might have done with them, we
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did Operation Harass. We found the Horton brothers and we
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brought them to the United States. Yet whatever they were
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working on still to this day we don't have a
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lot of ideas about. So during this whole time period
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when a lot of this stuff is taking place, these
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covert actions between the United States and Russia, we have
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a very veiled history of if there is a history
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at all, correct, very.
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Correct, and I'm really happy that you know about this.
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I felt like that I was the only one that
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was speaking about this because a lot of people know
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about Project paper Clip, but not a lot of people
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talk about that Russian version of Project paper Clip, where
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more than six thousand Nazis out of Germany and their
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families entered into Russia after World War Two. They put
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them on a train and just what took them straight
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into Russia. And I'm really happy that you know about this,
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because not a lot of people talk about it or
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even know that it really existed. And you're one hundred
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percent right. It's very difficult to track down a lot
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of that stuff because you know, obviously Russia is very secretive.
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But it's been this based upon that, it's been this.
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Uh.
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I personally believe that that was the entire cause of
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the Cold War, was that, And it seemed like that
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the United States went in and got the leftover, not like.
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Like they didn't even get the prime time right, like
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it didn't know, you know, and even then, you know,
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and I don't want to harp on this too much
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because obviously we have to get into gate. But you know,
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so many people we're talking about Nuremberg two point zero
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with COVID nineteen eighty four. But all you have to
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do is just do a little scratch and sniffing on Nuremberg.
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And the truth of the matter is that was extremely
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limited hangout. That was nowhere near the amount of quote
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unquote Nazi war criminals that we had or were aware of,
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and in large part it was done to appease the
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global public. Most of those guys were for namesake only.
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A lot of the big players you either didn't hear
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about or they supposedly died. There is a lot of
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controversy surrounding South America, people like Joseph Mengela, etc. And
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the work they may have done post World War Two,
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if in fact they survived. Even today, there are large
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questions whether Hitler himself survived past World War Two. So,
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you know, this geopolitical landscape post World War two actually
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gets a lot more confusing when you start looking into
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the historical record outside of what we were taught in
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those school books distributed by Glene Maxwell. Apparently in company.
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Gleen Maxwell's dad, Robert Maxwell, was responsible for that entire
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thing because when the Rothchilds they needed to basically take
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over Wall Street, they did it by sending this individual
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to New York City, and then they had to purchase
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this company called mcmellan Inc. And mcmellan Inc. Was a
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media company that would later be known as McGraw hill,
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which is that's the company that's responsible for all of
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the history books in public school and taught in public school.
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And the person that they sent was Robert Maxwell Gazlaine,
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Maxwell's dad, Robert Maxwell was working for the Rothchilds as
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you know, as we've talked about on my show with you,
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he was like their main guy. And when Maxwell will
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go on to die on his yacht because he owed
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money to Massad and he owed money to the Rothchild
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family and the roth Child family through the Bank of
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England connected with all of Maxwell running these corporate black
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mal schemes throughout the entire world run by Massad in England,
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and when he died, see Epstein was introduced to Robert
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Maxwell only six months before Maxwell died, so Epstein is
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essentially his replacement. And after that, Epstein and Gus Lane
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would go on to then infiltrate and do everything that
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Maxwell was doing. And we know through Alan Dershowitz that
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he was introduced to Jeffrey Epstein in the early nineties
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or emails of that in the Epstein files by Lord
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and Lady Rothschild. There's also an email from Epstein over
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to Peter Keel talking about, as you know, I represent
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the entire Rothchild family. Then you also have that documentary
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that what's his name was doing Steve Bannon, Steve Bannon
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was doing where he was like, yeah, like Epstein basically
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represented the entire Rothschild family in that interview for that
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documentary that was never released. Bannon apparently interviewed Epstein for
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do you recall how long?
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Yeah, they've said, but again, you know, it's very dicey,
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And you also wonder why you got that one two
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hour chunk and how that was released by the DOJ
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because you would assume, again, the Department of Justice has
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every minute of those interviews, there's no doubt about it.
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So why did we get the release of only one
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of them what could possibly be quote unquote classified or
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you know, you know, hurting the victims from putting that
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stuff out. It's just one of the many microcosms of
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the information that they didn't put out via these Epstein files.
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But you know, let's go back, because we got a
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little bit off track. Let's let's go back to the
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Russians and Nazis and kind of this genesis of these
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covert programs within maybe the United States and Russia for
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the best and brightest to be recruited into the system.
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So when Russia beat us in the space with the
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launching of the spot, make this really kind of freaked
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out the government and freaked out the eyes and our administration,
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and they realized the best way to get people recruited
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into the military, intelligence agencies and high positions of power
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within corporations and leaders of communities including inventors and outside
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of the box thinkers and heads of a giant corporation
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is if they can control them from the point when
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they're very young. And what better way to do that
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is throughout the public school system, right, And it's about control,
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and if you get the best people, and the best
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people to do this is children, because children are the future, right,
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control the future. And if anyone kind of slips through
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the cracks there won't really matter because you'll essentially have
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all the brightest minds and the smartest people working for you.
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You'll have them a part of a giant corporation, you'll
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have them working for the military.
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Really make a big difference in our reality that kuld
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possibly revolutionize our way of life and invent new technologies
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that really does change and help the way that we live. See,
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nothing really changes in our reality, just The only thing
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that has really changed has been our technology and the
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way that we communicate and electronics. We don't use any
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thing that's really new. We're still using the same planes,
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the same trains, same microwaves. I mean, come on, has
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no one come up with a freaking this is kind
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of silly, But has no one ever came up with
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a broom with bristles that doesn't stick, that doesn't get
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all the dirt onto the broom, that can just sweep
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the dirt around and get it on where you don't
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have to pull off the dust and everything at the
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end of the like, come on, give me a break here.
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And that's really silly.
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The macro of that, because what you're really talking about is,
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especially when we're talking post World War Two, we have
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not seen giant leaps in propulsion systems, energy system et cetera,
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and technology outside of communication technology, right. And the truth
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of the matter is, even with that communication technology, if
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you really get to it, sure it wasn't possible for
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you and I to be you know, a couple thousand
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miles away, you know, one hundred years ago and in
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ten ADP broadcast to the rest of the world. But
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communication was in fact wireless. You know, we figured out
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the airwaves not only for phone communications, but television communications
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UHF VHF waves, all these quote unquote invisible waves that
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are sending this information and even today with Wi Fi
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et cetera, et cetera. But outside of that, we really
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haven't had these breakthroughs that are supposedly going to make
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our lives better, our lives cheaper. And that's what we
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were really promised during the quote unquote post World War
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or to space age, right, and it's kind of the
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same thing we're being promised right now with humanoid robotics
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and data centers. So they've already pulled the rug out
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from under us on really the last two generations, whether
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you know, the Boomer generation and Generation X, and they're
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doing the same thing right now to the zeers and
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the millennials. I'm watching it happen in real time.
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Rider.
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Yeah, So if you can essentially grab all the people
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that can really make it, it's like if you were
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to go to India or trya and grab the best
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person and have them come over to the United States,
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like someone that's really good in technology, well that individual.
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The reason that you would do that is because that
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individual is never going to become the CEO of the company,
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but you can use their talents and the things that
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they've discovered for your corporation and the things that you're
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trying to develop, and then they won't own that technology.
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They'll have no stake in that technology. So that's essentially
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what's going on. They're preventing people from creating their own
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company with their own technology and the people they might
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slip through the cracks there that invent something that really
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would revolutionize the way we operate as a society. Their
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patents are then buried under the National Security Act and
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no one will ever find out about it, and a
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lot of times they're even they could even be killed
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or assassinated or murdered. This has happened time after time
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after time. The Invention Secrecy Act of nineteen fifty one
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says that the government can classify any patent under the
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threat of national security. Now, what is considered a threat
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to national security? Well, it's whatever the government deems is
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a threat to national security.
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They've been using that blanket envelope statement to hide a
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lot of things in secrecy and make it to where
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no one can ever find out about it because it's
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a threat to national security. Right, So they've got the
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smart people, the ones that slip through the cracks, they
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just bury them, right. And so when the government became
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involved with the public education system, they started identifying these
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people the gifted and talented individuals. And I really set
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out to prove that in the documentary and what they
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may actually be doing. And we show unclassified documents, declassified documents,
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CIA documents. It's a very document heavy documentary that shows
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that this is kind of what's going on. If we
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would actually like to play the trailer for it, I
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think we have the trailer loaded up and ready. We
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can get into it if you would like to show
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it now, that's okay with me, or we can wait
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until later.
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No, let's let's do it.
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Let's play the trailer for the audience, and then when
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we come back. I want to kind of hone in
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on some dates because I've certainly seen a lot more.
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I mean, at least the gate program at school is
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a public program, right, and it certainly came into fruition
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during kind of my generation. What late eighties into the
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nineties is proliferated throughout. So let's let's watch this this trailer.
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This is Rider Lee's new documentary.
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Second three this evening is titled The Children and the CIA.
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Tonight we'll learn of the agency's interest in children.
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Part of the gate program where I was pulled out
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of the room by a guy in a suit.
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I went in and did like the different tones in
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the leftier tones and the right ear different, you know,
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raising your hand.
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In these weird things they had kids do. Is the
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strange liquid that.
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You're patriat that pintriot that're always shutting down.
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So to really understand what I'm talking about, you have
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to go back to nineteen fifty eight.
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It's a spotneck.
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Nineteen fifty eight marked the first time government became.
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Involved with public school.
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With this new policy came identifying gifted and talent to children.
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Who's gifted, who's chald and taking them out and giving
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them different education. What that different education is cuts back
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to the mineral.
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Inst You should be hearing my voice in your right ear.
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Until I heard those Gateway tapes and I was like, whoa,
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this is very very similar.
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These gate programs are grouping people to take roles in society. Entertainers,
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corporate owners, politicians.
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Discuss the fact that Charlie was indeed a gifted child
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who went to a literal children's school for the gifted.
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But they're looking at you long before then. They are
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looking at you from child.
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The GUIDs have a record file on every single child
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from preschool to your career.
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Your Laxation program by Thomas H.
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Bodinski, pH d.
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Here they are?
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Could they and would they have just advanced to making psychics.
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Like testing for esp abilities?
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Uh?
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You could go to scary places with that. Do you
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know anybody else that house these days?
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I don't.
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I don't know anybody else in the program. You know,
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they have a front for a front for.
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A front, So what are they covering up?
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Do you believe that this could have been for in shooting?
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But absolutely, you're not crazy.
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The government really was doing psychic testing on children, and
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I'm going to prove.
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It finally starting government.
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You should be hearing my voice. You should be hearing
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my voice. You should be hearing my voice, and you're
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right here the Gate program.
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So there it is the trailer for the Gate program.
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So let's talk about the schooling then. I kind of
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want to get into the psychic stuff as well as
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far as your research goes when did this actual when
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did they actually phrase it as Gate? Because obviously there's
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always been programs for the gifted, and there's the Advanced
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Class et cetera, et cetera, and these things have been
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around for a long time, but this seems to be
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one of these federally funded programs with a very direct
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agenda spread out throughout the country and possibly even further.
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Yeah, So for my research, it definitely started in the
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sixties with Walter Bosley that we just saw in the
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trailer there. He was in the program in the sixties
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and it was called MGM Mental League Gift Did Minors.
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This was in California. But we kind of show in
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the documentary that this might have been going back even
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further and quite possibly could have been a military operation
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in Indian Lake, New York in the forties, as far
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back as the forties. But as far as Gate goes,
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we have confirmation that as early as the sixties they
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had an official GAIT like program in grade school and
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in middle school all around the country.
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So let's talk about the psychic aspects of it, because
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for me, I'm always really skeptical of these type of things, right,
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and I'm sure that you know, you've come across plenty
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of people making pretty incredible claims. Now, Annie Jacobson is
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somebody that you know, highly respect, but I don't think
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she gets everything right, and I also think she sometimes
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pulls back on things. I also think that she, whether
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she realizes that or not, puts out some pretty serious
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misinformation and disinformation. And one of those people might be
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Uri Geller. Right, here's a really interesting guy that our
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government openly was working with through the Central Intelligence Agency
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and others on these kind of psychic phenomenon programs. Now,
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in large part, he ends up being a fraudster, right,
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And the question is how was he able to do
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the CIA? Was he fully duping them the whole time?
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But really their relationship didn't end because he was quote
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unquote duping them. It ended because he was working for
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the Israelis. You know, they had him on the inside
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as well. Now, outside of the Gate program, there's plenty
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of documentation of the Russians also very involved in psychics
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and remote remote seeing and all these other different types
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of things. Via this everybody that I've seen that seems
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to be at least somewhat on the level, and that
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can prove that they were at least part of these
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programs basically says a lot of it is learned. For instance,
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you know, you can only go so far. It's not
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like that this is necessarily ultra inherent in one individual,
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but instead inherent in the entire population. And remote viewing
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and other things are actually skills that you can learn.
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What are your thoughts on that, Like, first of all,
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you know, going back to the hucksters and the misinfo
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and the disinfo, etc. How do you separate that from
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people that you think are genuine? And then on top
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of that, when looking at the subject of you know,
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maybe people more prone to these abilities or not, how
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far can they take them? And if it is real,
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how inherent is it in the human populace.
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Those are really good questions and I appreciate you asking them,
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for sure, And it is really important to distinguish between
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the people that claim to be psychic and the people
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that actually are psychic, and between the different programs, because
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there are several programs that have Gate in the title
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of them. You got the government's Stargate project or program
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or Project Stargate or Stargate Project, which we cover in
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around the first hour of the documentary. And then we
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get into the gate stuff in the second hour. And
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it's really important to distinguish between all of those, because
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you have the Stargate project, then you have the Gateway project.
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Was the Robbert Monroe Gateway process, which is the Heney sink,
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which is to induce an out of body experience.
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They're somebody who died it a plane crash, by the way,
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the Gateway process, gentleman, just for those that don't know.
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And that is a fascinating and riveting document put out
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I believe by the Central Intelligence Agency, but I believe
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it was commissioned through the United States Army on the
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nature of reality, really, and they took it from this
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individual scientist. I can't remember his name off the bat,
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but you can go watch a couple of different lectures
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that he gave on that subject and other subjects surrounding
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the nature of reality and how our reality and large
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part is created by our perception or what we call
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our brain, our mind. But yes, no, he's another individual
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who died in a mysterious plane crash. Rider.
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Yes, Robert Monroe is a very fascinating individual.
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I listened to.
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Probably around thirty hours of his lectures for this documentary
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to find out what he actually was going on there,
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and we do show that Gateway document by the CIA
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in the documentary as well. So it's a really big
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rap up because people often get confused about all these
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things that are named Gate, right, because you also have
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the Gate program which is in public school, which is
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the gifted and talented education. So people often mix all
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three of these programs all together when there's really no
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not that much connection other than psychic stuff. That's really it.
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The government Stargate Remote Viewing Unit was not testing on children. Okay,
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that's a separate program, which was the gifted and Talented
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education that was going on in public school. But there's
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also you know, entire Gate schools. There's literally gifted and
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talented schools that are dedicated just to gifted and talented children.
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So it's not a fairytale that people are making this
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stuff up. You can literally just get on Google and
496
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Charlie Kirk actually went to one of these schools, right,
497
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and it was actually called the it's in Palatine, Illinois
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called Creative Children's Academy. It's now been renamed Quest Academy.
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In nineteen ninety nine, now, Charlie Kirk wasn't just in
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a gay class that you would take in.
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School, Millsky.
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This is a literal gifted and talented school dedicated to
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students that have been deemed gifted and talented. And it's
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still in operation today called Quest Academy. Right, So it's
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not the stuff that people are saying is not fair.
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There's real.
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Evidence to what they believe that they have been through.
508
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And what was your other Oh, so, how you can
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identify a person that has actually has abilities to remote
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view is that there's a document out there that list
511
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all of the remote viewers and I show it in
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the documentary. There's less than twenty of them that was
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ever in the government remote viewing unit that started in
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nineteen seventy eight and ended in nineteen ninety five. There
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were less than twenty of them that were ever in
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that program, and I have two of them in the
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actual documentary, Lim Buchanan and Angela Ford, and I also
518
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have del Graf. Del Graph was not a remote viewer,
519
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but he was the operations manager for the DIA Army
520
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Intelligence Stargate program and he's the one that actually coined
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the term and that named it stargate after he took
522
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over in the early nineties. We go through a lot
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of evidence and a lot of documentation that remote viewing
524
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is very real. I show all the documents and what
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people had. Angela Ford, which is in the documentary, had
526
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found hostages that were held hostage in Lebanon.
527
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She found.
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A runaway TSA agent in Wyoming in the eighties named
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Charles Charles Ford.
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She actually got.
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Awarded an award for finding him psyche psychically with her
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remote viewing capabilities. So and Lin Buchanan had received several
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awards while he was in the Stargate remote Viewing unit. So, yes,
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people can do it, and everyone has the ability to
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do it, but not everybody has the ability to do
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it accurately, is what I would say. And some people
537
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.960
are born with a psychic ability, like people like Ingo Swan,
538
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which was involved with SRI International in the early seventies
539
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and then he eventually got out of it around in
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the end of the seventies into the early eighties. He
541
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you know, just kind of cut chords with the entire thing.
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But he would talk about how whenever he was younger,
543
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he would have a lot of out of body experiences,
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you know, like you would be be outside of his
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body constantly, and that's one of the things within the
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Project Gateway CIA document that says that, you know, in
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order to kind of unlock these psychic abilities, you being
548
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:32.359
outside of your body is one way to do that,
549
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and there's several other ways to do it as well.
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But Angela Ford also talks about it within the documentary
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Psychic Agent. The gate Broad program is that being outside
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of your body is the most advanced form of remote viewing.
553
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So one of the more I guess famous cases of
554
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:57.319
the United States military delving into this arena of psychic
555
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:01.799
or non physical abilities would be the Men who Stare
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at goats, right and the First Earth Battalion Project, etc.
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Where you know, you had these individuals that were trying
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to rethink the military but also trying to psychically be
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able to actually attack things. So stopping the heart of
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a goat from a room through psychic powers was basically
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one of the projects. One of the people that was
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interviewed by John Ronson because before it was, you know,
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a Hollywood movie with George Clooney, and I think Ewan
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McGregor might be in that one as well. It was
565
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actually a documentary series, The Secret Rulers of the world.
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One of those parts was based on that with Ronson,
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and Ronson had also written a book on the subject
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where he delved into it. I think stubblebind Admiral Stubblebine
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was also very much involved in that. And stubblevind you know,
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kind of became more of a famed nine to eleven
571
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truth guy later on in his lifetime and gravitated to
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a lot of like I hate to call them, the
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hippie dippy kind of aspects of it. But you know,
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it was always where in the necklaces, et cetera, et cetera.
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Do you delve into that program at all? I know
576
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that I've seen some interviews with you with some of
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these individuals asking if they were utilized using their psychic
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abilities to maybe harm or kill a target, etc. You
579
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don't seem to get a straight answer there. But have
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you delved into the men hysteric Goats and what'd you find?
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Yes?
582
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Absolutely, that is basically what the first hour of the
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movie is all about, is the history of the government's
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interest in the history of the government's psychic spy unit
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and the Minister A Goats is a compilation of a
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bunch of different people's stories that were involved in the
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government psychic spy program. And also another unit that has
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never really been disclosed that was either happening in Texas, California,
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or the Carolinas. It's not really been confirmed on where
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that unit was, but it was a unit using psychic
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abilities in combat. So essentially, the director of that movie
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combined both aspects of those two units together and created
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this comedy. And the person that's named in the movie
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is I forget what his last name is in the movie.
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I really liked the movie. I thought the movie was hilarious.
596
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I mean, it's making fun of the whole thing, but
597
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you know, I still thought that it was really funny.
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I can have a really good sense of humor, you
599
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know what I mean When things are funny, it's funny.
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Yeah, it's a dark comedy. And one of the things
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that you know, I don't think they harped on enough,
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but that I found out, you know, looking into the
603
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event itself, is that it was also very involved with
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Art Bell Show and that the Haley's Comment conspiracy that
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brought brought us the Heaven's Gate cult, another gate in
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there that famously all killed themselves wearing Nike sneakers and
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had a great SNL skit with Will Ferrell about it
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right afterwards. Can't recommend that skin enough. It was a
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shell opener and it still holds up today. But again,
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when you get into these things, you also do kind
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of get into certain cult like mentalities. Did did you
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find that also where there correlations or connections to that
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type of world.
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For some people?
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Because a lot of people like to claim that the
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individuals that were a part of this program were all scientologists,
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That isn't true. Limby Cannon is actually a ordained minister
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and he goes to a Christian church. But I think
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that that kind of unfairly got lumped into because how
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put Off, which together with Russell targ in the beginning,
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which was funded by the CIA. The CIA gave a
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lot of money to researching remote viewing. That's where your
623
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a yeller comes from. That's where your yeller was never
624
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a part of a military unit or never part of THEDIA.
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He was just studied by SRI, which was funded by
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the CIA up until nineteen seventy five.
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But how put Off was.
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A scientologist, right, so they kind of lumped everybody that
629
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was kind of a part of that program into a
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scientology aspect, which isn't really true.
631
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Now, there are aspects.
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Of being a remote viewer that make you feel like
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that you're that would kind of give you a Messiah complex, right,
634
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because if you can see things with your mind and
635
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that is far and distant from you, and you're actually
636
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correct on the things that you were seeing, then that would,
637
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you know, give you a Messiah complex in a lot
638
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of different ways. And that's a big reason why a
639
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.119
lot of the people that are still surviving from the
640
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:12.559
government remove viewing unit don't get along with each other.
641
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.519
They don't really communicate with each other, you know what
642
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:18.280
I mean. They don't they're not really friends.
643
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:18.519
Now.
644
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A few of them are Lim Buchanan, Dellgraph, and Angela Ford,
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which are in my documentary. I've done a show with
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all three of them on my YouTube channel and they
647
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:31.280
all get along, but several people have bad blood between
648
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them and they don't talk or communicate with each other,
649
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.519
and they'll talk bad about each other and everything. So
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00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.320
there's a few different things going on. But as far
651
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as like a cult like mentality, I didn't find any
652
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:48.639
cult like mentality with anything that was going on with
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the remote viewers that I had in my documentary, you.
654
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Know, wrapping it up, what do you think is the
655
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.960
most surprising thing, like the thing that hits you out
656
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.880
of left field that you were aren't really prepared for,
657
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that you may have learned on this journey in this documentary,
658
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And then you know, what would you like to leave
659
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the audience with that we haven't discussed or covered here.
660
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So other than you know, recruiting people, because that's a
661
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major part of it. Now this is separate from the
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government's remote Viewing Psychic Spy unit. But other than recruiting
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people in through the Gifted and Talented program, there was
664
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also things that you know, people remember that are way
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stranger that doesn't make a lot of sense, like being
666
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forced to take a strange substance like we saw in
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the trailer for the documentary of the Pink Drink, playing
668
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with blocks strings what people describe as three D glasses.
669
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And there's a lot of evidence for these types of
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programs that aren't directly connected to public school, like the
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EMES leaf Room, which was created by doctor Ames and
672
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which was funded and contracted by the Office of Naval Research.
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It's a very real thing. Can google it. The Ames
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Leaf Room. He would essentially take in a lot of
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college students into this room that have leaves all over
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the walls, dose them with LSD, and put goggles over
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their head, and then they would have the worst trip
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00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:14.519
of their lives and they would be tripping balls looking
679
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:16.960
through these goggles and seeing all these leaves on the walls,
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and they would end up in the emergency room. Several
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of them did. There's also this other experiment called the
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Gansfeld Experiment ga ns the Feld that was to induce
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hallucinations and activate psychic abilities. You can do this yourself
684
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by cutting a ping pong ball in half and taping
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them to your eyeballs. Take a bright red light, shine
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00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:38.760
it on your face, and anyone that has done this
687
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for a long period of time will start to see
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00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:47.719
things happening in when they open their eyes and look
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through the ping pong balls. There's also several mk Ultra
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sub projects tailored tour discovering Unlocking in the Study of
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the esp and Psychic abilities. Mk Ultra Subproject eighty three
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and Subproject one point thirty six literally talks about psychic
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testing on children. Mk Ultra Subproject one oh two is
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a summer camp project where the CIA was collecting data
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on one hundred and forty two children. So when you
696
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think of all of the millions of people that have
697
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been through these programs, the Gate public school programs, you
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kind of get an idea of exactly what's going on,
699
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:26.159
and you kind of got to put two and two
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together on a lot of the stuff because there's a
701
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lot of information in this documentary. A lot of documents
702
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.760
are shown and highlighted in the documentary, and you got
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to remember a lot of things, and you got to
704
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kind of put too because I'm not one of these
705
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:45.760
people that likes to repeat information inside of a movie
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like it's you know, I'm not doing the net Netflix
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model where I reiterate the thing that I just said
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ten minutes later, you know what I mean. I'm expecting
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people to sit down and really pay attention and really
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watch this. In the seventies, the parents found out that
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the CIA had access to their child school records and
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they didn't right, So they found out that they couldn't
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get access to their child's school records. And the reason
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that they couldn't is because the CIA had all of
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their child's school records. So they enacted this bill called FURPA,
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which is the Parents' Rights in Privacy Act, which then
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gave parents the access to their child school records back.
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But the CIA then slipped in an amendment to FURPA
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which allowed the CIA to continue getting the child's school records,
720
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and they started changing the names of the program from
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the standard Gate Program to Gifted and Talented TAG.
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It was just called TAG.
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And other people have reached out to me that they
724
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were involved in a program in Georgia called Focus, which
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is fostering originality, creativity, understanding and self awareness. So it's
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like they've they've changed the name of a lot of this.
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They've tried to conceal it and hide it from people
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by just you know. It's kind of exactly like what
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happened with the Stargate Remote Viewing Unit is that they
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kept changing the name of the program every so often
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when it bounced back before the DiiA and Army Intelligence.
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Every time that it was switch or combined, they didn't
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have to change the code name or the name of
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the project right, and it eventually landed on Stargate. But
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the most surprising thing for me throughout the documentary, other
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than the Gate Program stuff which we showed documentation in
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there that proves that the government was testing children for
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psychic abilities. Is this idea that things can be planted
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into your head, like thoughts and ideas and beliefs can
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be planted into your head through a really good psychic
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remote viewer and maybe even be able to un alive
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an individual. I hate that word. I freaking hate using
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the word on alife. I'm alive and an individual just
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using their mind. And I found that very fascinating. And
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there is a document that I briefly show in the
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movie that gives you the steps. It was written by
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ad May. It's a very rare document. Very few people
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have access to it. Even some of the people within
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the Stargate government remote viewing program don't even have access
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to it. I've actually sent it to them. They found
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it very fascinating. But it lists you steps on how
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you can remotely influence people psychically, and Lim Buchanan says
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in the documentary that it's very easy to do. And
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he was actually asked to if he could kill Osama
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bin Laden with his mind, if he could infiltrate into
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Gorbachev's mind to get him to drop communism.
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So it's a really deep rabbit hole.
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The basement goes into another basement, and then that basement
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has a trap door, and at a certain point I
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just had to stop all of the research and make
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my movie.
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Or it was never going to get made.
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Sounds like it also lead into an underground city. The
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movie is Psychic Agent The Gate Program. You go get
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it at Prime Video right now for two ninety nine. Folks,
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you can't get a double cheeseburger at McDonald's on the
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value many mind you for under three bucks, So please
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consider checking this out supporting Rider Lee Rider. Where else
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can people find you?
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You can find me on Raised by Giants, on YouTube
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and inning and all podcast platforms. If you would like
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to reach out to me personally, you can find me
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on Instagram at Raised by Giants, pod Twitter x at
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Raised by Giants E and on Facebook Raised by Giants.
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And if you'd like to purchase a DVD copy of
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my movie, Psychic Agent The Gate Program, you can do
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so by emailing me at Raised by Giants at outlook
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dot com. Jason, thanks so much for having me on
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brother really appreciate it, and please check out the movie
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if you rent it.
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It's only two ninety nine. If you buy it.
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It's only nine ninety nine, but you're gonna want to
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watch it again second time. And that's not just me
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saying that to from growth the movie. There's just a
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lot of information.
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In there, information DNSE film.
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Folks.
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If you want to support this broadcast, the links are
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down below, five ten, fifteen dollars big donors. We love you.
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We also got the PayPal. Hey, if you stuck it
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out for this one. You hear the word democrat, republican, conservative, liberal, Nope,
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you didn't, because most of it's not about that, folks.
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Most of it really is about right and wrong. It
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really is these compartmentalized programs that are dictating our future,
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whether they're in this realm of the quote unquote supernatural
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or also technology that you may or may not be
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familiar with. This is where the meat and potatoes are,
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so please go check that out. I absolutely love you guys,
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thanks for watching, and we'll see you all on the
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flip side.