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Speaker 1: What up, y'all? This your main man Memphis Bleak right here. Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over at Drink Champs.
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Speaker 2: You already know what it is. Y'all back with another one. Rock solid. Here with my motherfucking brother, man. Y'all have no clue how me and this man go back, man.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? We go back like stocking caps. You heard? It's my bro rule, you know. Shit, man. I don't even know what to say, man. You already know, man.
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Speaker 2: One of the biggest fucking artists I ever collabed with, ever rocked with, been on tour with, got.
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Speaker 1: Me in beef, everything. You know what I'm saying? But I just here to let you know, I say Blinky Blink, and he said... Yeah. Blinky blink. Yo, we dead in the drama. We dead in the drama. I dead in it.
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Speaker 2: Because I seen him, right? Yo, I seen him at the beat show in New Orleans. And I'm like, yo, I'm telling my wife. I'm like, yo, I look like Blinky Blink. This nigga D's doing shit. So I'm like, damn, man.
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Speaker 3: I don't want no.
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Speaker 2: You got it, Blinky. I'm like, yo, but Rude started that. He's like, yeah, tell Rude let's get our workout on.
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Speaker 1: I said, yo. I'ma text him his beef with the workouts now. I text you too. Good work, my nigga, man. Good seeing you, bro. You know, I bump into you.
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Speaker 3: All the time.
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Speaker 2: My wives hang out. It was just at Brooklyn Chop House. I got smoke behind that. For those who don't know, the Blinky Blink shit started from the Hard.
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Speaker 1: Knock Life DVD.
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Speaker 3: We was in the limbo.
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Speaker 2: And I think this after I had gotten the motorcycle accident, I broke my foot. And I told you, I'm like, yo, first nigga on the set. to see me when I was hurt was Blinky. And I'm like, I look up like, nigga, I'm okay. I'm not letting him see me hurt.
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Speaker 1: Out of everybody, not you. So I'm telling Rude, this nigga like, nah, that wasn't it. Blink want to battle. You scared. You scared, nigga. You scared to battle Blinky Blink. So this shit, this is before Viral, before Graham, all that. So everywhere I used to go, niggas used to be like, yo, Blink, why you ain't battle Blinky Blink? And I'm like, yo, it was never no dad who, like, John just said that out of nowhere. So that's why when I seen him, I'm like, Bleep, what's up? He's like, nah, tell Ruth let's work out. Nah, for all those that don't know, like, Hard Knock Life Tour, that shit was like, that was like our coming out. you know, party and shit. That was my graduation for- For you? Me, I had one verse. That's what I had. I had a verse. Nah, nah, but still, your verse was different. My verse was brought out, yo, come do your verse, get out of here. I used to sit there and be like- Look at this nigga, taking his shirt off.
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Speaker 3: Running out. I'm getting my 20 questions in.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to keep it honest. We was jealous. I was standing in the back like, damn, nigga, loan me two of those. Let me do the loan for the next show. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't even, like, in shape back then. You know what I'm saying? I was just skinny. Yes, you was, man. I was just slim.
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Speaker 3: I was like my son. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: He works right now.
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Speaker 3: He's in good shape now.
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Speaker 1: Yo, they say your son looks more like you than you. You know what I'm saying? He do. He do. He do. He in with me, too.
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Speaker 3: I got him with me.
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Speaker 1: I got him in with me.
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Speaker 3: I got him out of that little room.
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Speaker 1: He got the house.
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Speaker 3: He stayed at the house and shit.
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Speaker 1: Oh, shit. Yeah, man.
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Speaker 2: But that Hard Knock Life tour, man, that was it, man. I seen everybody plant their roots there and then grow and take it to the next level, my G. And watching you do what you did with all them songs.
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Speaker 1: I remember this is something, too. I remember being in L.A. This is two different incidents. This is when I knew. I'm like, nah, John, he different.
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Speaker 3: He through the roof. He always know his shit.
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Speaker 1: We already in the watch club, but this is the fourth.
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Speaker 2: This is my real watch club. This was before Watch Club. This is when I knew Ru was that nigga nigga. I'm in LA.
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Speaker 1: Shooting a video.
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Speaker 3: Nigga's like, yo, Ja Ru out here?
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Speaker 1: I'm like, where we at?
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Speaker 2: What hotel you staying at? Nigga's like, nah, he ain't in no hotel. They got the murder mansion. What?
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Speaker 1: Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. They got the what?
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Speaker 2: I have to go see this. We go to the murder mansion and it was up. I'm like, nah, these niggas is it.
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Speaker 1: It's over.
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Speaker 3: Irving, I'm going to get you out of here.
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Speaker 1: Those were good times, man.
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Speaker 2: Beautiful times, bro. Beautiful times. That was one time. And then the second time we was in the malls in L.A. Both times in L.A., yo. I don't know what mall we was in, but something happened in the mall. And they was wildin', everybody runnin' through the mall, and then I see you.
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Speaker 1: You was with, like, 50 Crips. I'm like, yo, Ruben, and you like, Bleak, what you doin' here? I'm like, I'm goin' to get some sneakers. You like, yo, it's goin' down, Bleak. Here we are, man. Get the sneakers, man. Get up outta here. It's goin' down. I'm like, this nigga. I used to hang out with all them Bloods, Crips, everybody. You know, we kinda, like, started, like, the... the late night LA after party house party vibe. Like, I went out there to do my second album and shit. We got the crib and it was like an ebb and flow, you know, like we go party, you know, have, you know, clubs, cribs, everybody come back to the crib party. But it was like, it was different because, you know, Pac Death was still fresh, even though it wasn't fresh.
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Speaker 3: It lingered for years.
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Speaker 1: The freshness of his passing lingered in L.A. for years. And so when we first went out to do my album and I got the crib and shit, and then Gotti got the crib, it still felt fresh. Hell yeah. It still felt real fresh. And for us to embrace everybody... in L.A. the way we did and for niggas to embrace us the way they did.
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Speaker 2: Y'all was the first East Coast rappers besides, I say, because like, Duck Down and them had the major West Coast pass.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even know that.
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Speaker 2: Y'all niggas had the major West Coast pass because I'm in the more like, Well, look at this nigga, Rue, rolling.
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Speaker 1: I love you.
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Speaker 3: I love the West Coast, man. You know what I'm saying? The West Coast just felt good, nigga. Bring him in.
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Speaker 2: I seen L.A. both times, man. Like, I seen it before the Big E.
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Speaker 3: Come on, nigga. What are we doing here? Like, I've seen L.A.
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Speaker 1: Before.
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Speaker 3: We've been to L.A.
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Speaker 2: Before both times, man, fucking with Ed Love and them niggas and everybody.
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Speaker 1: Remember? Kaiser and the fucking with Fat Burger. And after the Pac shit, it's like L.A. just totally smooth. A lot of people niggas don't know. is that me and Bleak was going to do an album. Yeah, I was getting into that. I was going to ask you what happened, you know what I mean? What happened, nigga?
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Speaker 3: You blew up.
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Speaker 1: You blew up. Nah, nah, don't do that. Don't do that.
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Speaker 3: Yo, I'm going to tell a true story.
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Speaker 1: Yo, you blew up. True story. This is true story right here. Not that you told me that. You was just on tour. Don't do that. Don't do that. Because, yo, my second video. My second video. Murder for Life.
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Speaker 3: You clipped me.
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Speaker 1: You see the shit? You see the lies? Yo, you see the lies? Yo, they clipped me. Yo, they gave me the part. Yo, you know they say watch for the hook. I'm going to tell you what happened. He ain't let me watch for the hook because he put me in the video for... You might not even know. Hold up, you might not know this. What happened? I'm about to tell you. I'm about to tell you the God's honest truth, nigga. You my brother. Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. You know, I wanted nothing more than for me and you, Rockefeller, Murder Inc., Ja Rule, Bleak. We was on that. We just came off the tour. Yeah, yeah. We was talking about doing a BQE project. Nigga said Bleak can't be in your video.
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Speaker 2: Who said that? That had to be Dame. Dame, you did that? We need Dame up here. That couldn't have been hoes. Nigga, let me tell you something.
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Speaker 1: I was hurt, nigga. I was like, what you mean my nigga can't be my nigga? Bleak's working on his project. We about to do Bleak's project, put Bleak out. And Bleak can't do your project and be in your video right now. That was Major Captain America. They ain't even want my project to come out. They want to be Nisiku. What's that? We gotta get to the bottom of this. We need to get Dame home. Somebody needs to smoke. It definitely wasn't Biggs because Biggs don't talk. Biggs would have been like, I don't give a fuck. It wasn't Biggs that made the decision. We need Dame up here. I don't know who made the decision. I don't know if it was Jay or Dame. But I know that's the word that I got back to me. They said Bleak can't be in the video. So now... What did I have to do? I had to change the song. Yo, when I seen it, it seemed like that. So you think I was going to go change the fucking song? I didn't change the record, nigga. I ain't know that.
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Speaker 3: I wish you wouldn't have hit me.
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Speaker 1: I was tight, nigga. I got to find out who sent that message. Nigga sent that message on a roll. Wild. I was tight. Yo. And I think, real talk, I think that would have been a dope coming out party for both of us. Like, I was already kind of moving. You know, my album was you know, moving a little bit. But, you know, that was my first album. I only had the one single, Holla Holla. And we did the remix. We smoked that.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: Like, yeah. And you did the fucking remix. But that was after. That's why I was like, yo, did they set me up?
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Speaker 3: Yo, my nigga.
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Speaker 1: Clip me from that and throw me in this. Like, bro. We got y'all. Cause I out of here. I don't know how that went down. But yeah, that's hip-hop history. But you see how two stories can be told. Yeah, that's crazy. He thought I clipped him. I'm like, nah, man, you clipped me.
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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, sometimes the industry, they hit you with that Pac-Man.
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Speaker 1: Sizzins, get you out of here. Yo, but talking about the homies, what's up with Black Child? That's my yo. Black, all the artists y'all had on Murder, Inc.
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Speaker 2: I can say Black, me and him built a major relationship. We used to be out here in Miami going crazy.
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Speaker 3: Black, my nigga, man.
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Speaker 1: I love Black.
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Speaker 3: That's my nigga.
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Speaker 1: And Vida. Vida. She lived in Jersey in my same town. I used to see her all the time at the store.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I speak to Vida all the time.
00:11:00
Speaker 1: Word. It was my peoples, man. I always fucked with them, man. Shout out to Black Vita. Good people.
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Speaker 3: Know them, the people. Those my peoples, too.
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Speaker 1: Black Vita. Definitely, man. Fucking... Yo, hold on.
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Speaker 3: All of them.
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Speaker 1: I fuck with everybody. Of course.
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Speaker 3: You know, I love them all, man. Let me.
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Speaker 1: See, damn. We got to that already.
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Speaker 3: You got your notes?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yo. Oh, that's what we're doing.
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Speaker 3: Yo, chill.
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Speaker 1: Fuck. Yeah, I got to get my dope. Yo, what's speaking of that? Yo, no, this is Norio. Norio, you talking about his dope? Yeah, if y'all learned it, B, I'm going to say. Y'all learned it on set. Man, throw that shit away. Nah, nah, nah, because I need to remember certain shit. I need to remember certain shit. We smoke too much. This stuff affects the weed, y'all. But yo, nigga, give him a teleprompter or something. That's better than fucking notice it.
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Speaker 2: But talking about paying homage, do you feel you get enough credit? Because in my eyes, bro, you're one of the first that started the rapping, singing shit and on the low. not that I hate it, but I was envious of that.
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Speaker 3: Used to be like in the studio.
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Speaker 1: Like, hell no, God didn't give me that baritone. He didn't give me those vocals. I used to be like this nigga going there singing his own hook, writing his verses, then put a little more on it and be like, yeah, I'm out of here. These niggas is cheating. B, what the fuck happened over here? I gotta just rap all this shit? I'm gonna tell you why it worked though. Because I can't sing it. You know what I'm saying? Honestly. So, real talk, niggas felt like, like, nigga, I can do what that nigga's doing, and they can sing along with it, too. It's not like I was fucking, you know, a real singer. So it worked for me in that aspect, but, man, nigga. Nigga, you had them bombs, bro. Niggas don't even know.
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Speaker 2: One of my low-key biggest records that people, everywhere I go, every.
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Speaker 1: Girl is like, Bleak, Bleak, I know this record. It's my favorite record. Infatuated.
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Speaker 3: People don't even know.
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Speaker 1: That I called my dog. Yo, Bleak, I'm going to tell you right now, nigga, that's one of my favorite fucking hooks that I wrote.
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Speaker 3: My nigga.
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Speaker 4: They don't even know I put that call into my dog.
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Speaker 3: That shit is dope, nigga.
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Speaker 1: Word up. It was dope. I wish it would have gotten, I don't know. I should have shot a video for that. I feel like there's two records I should have shot a video for. That, Infatuated, and of course the record with Rihanna. But my shit don't work for everybody. Yo.
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Speaker 3: They're like, look, it didn't work for Nori. Me and Nori did the joint.
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Speaker 1: Leo called my shit watered down and all this crazy shit. Popcorn! He's in popcorn! He over there flipping the popcorn, you know what I'm saying? Nigga, get the fuck out of here.
00:13:50
Speaker 3: We all ain't believing around here.
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Speaker 1: Nah, let me tell you though, but Lansky was a smart businessman. He knew how to put artists in competitive spaces against each other without them being envious. Well, they may be a little envious, but without them being that being a thing, you know what I'm saying? Without getting into their natural, you know, Relationships, you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 3: He did it with me, JNX, all the time.
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Speaker 1: He'd just come in, he'd just pop up and be like, hey, you know, X is working on his new album. And I'd be like, damn, the dog working again? You know what I'm saying?
00:14:31
Speaker 2: Like, Jesus Christ, he just dropped out. That's one thing I feel like they don't give you enough credit for.
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Speaker 3: Niggas don't know, Rude.
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Speaker 2: You was up there dancing with the dogs as a young man.
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Speaker 3: I was different. I was different. Like, you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: That's a lot of niggas that you couldn't just, a lot of people can't, you know, God bless, can't just rhyme behind DMX. A lot of niggas can't just rhyme by a hove. And I'm not talking about the hove today. I'm talking about the hungry Jay-Z trying to get to today. You was on those records going toe to toe with niggas hard.
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Speaker 1: We all had our own thing.
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Speaker 2: Y'all niggas was on y'all shit sparring like a motherfucker on those records.
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Speaker 1: We had our own thing, you know, and I think that was dope. You know, X was the ultimate grimy street nigga and shit. Jay was like the ultimate fly, flossy nigga and shit.
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Speaker 3: And I was for the bitches.
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Speaker 2: So we all kind of had our thing. Nah, but it ain't start that way, Rude. Them first records. Murder Graham and all that. You wasn't talking to no bitches. I mean, that's just rap. You ain't had the muscles yet. You ain't had the muscles yet. You just had the muscle.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You wasn't talking to the bitches on Murder Graham.
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Speaker 2: Y'all niggas was going hard back then.
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Speaker 3: Nah, it was good fucking time.
00:15:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, man.
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Speaker 3: I enjoyed every aspect of what our come up was.
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Speaker 1: Of course, man.
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Speaker 3: It was the best time.
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Speaker 1: Those were the golden eras. Everything. I enjoyed it all, nigga. It was all very... It was... It was a learning curve at every aspect of it. Definitely. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like I needed each thing to take me the way I'm at. You know, the way I navigate is different. The way I move is different.
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Speaker 2: Bro, like, if you ask me, you touring more now than before. Maybe you just was in Turkey somewhere. Remember, our wives, we was on there before. Our wives hang out.
00:16:36
Speaker 1: They go out.
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Speaker 2: It was in Brooklyn Chophouse. And she telling me, listen, and I'm going to tell you on the low, Norman.
00:16:42
Speaker 1: Tried to shit on you. You know what I'm trying to say? Yeah, Norrie shitted on you. You see? See?
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Speaker 3: He ain't know I was going to.
00:16:47
Speaker 1: Tell you this. My nigga, Inno. What he did this time? That sound like an Inno move.
00:16:50
Speaker 5: What's up?
00:16:50
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that. The wives is talking about the sunrise talk. Right. And they like, you know, my wife's like, yo, Blee, when we going to go? Let's go somewhere.
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Speaker 3: So I hit Norrie.
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Speaker 2: Norrie, let's link up with, you know, let's pop out. Nigga say, yo, John going.
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Speaker 3: To be in the poor country.
00:17:03
Speaker 1: What's up, man? Did I call Johnny? I told him that. I told him, I said, man, ain't no countries overseas boring, man. I'm going everywhere. He was laughing at me. I told him I'm doing Ireland for New Year's. He's like, Ireland? You bugging. I'm only going for a check. Nigga, if I tell you where I was for New Year's, nigga, I was in Virginia, nigga. I don't fuck, nigga. The bag.
00:17:37
Speaker 3: Word up.
00:17:37
Speaker 1: It was a bag of Virginia, nigga. I was in Virginia, nigga. You know, I had a good time, man. I don't give a fuck, nigga. I don't care about holidays, birthdays, that shit. Like, you know, niggas would be thinking I'm doing something, you know, dope, fly special for my birthday.
00:17:51
Speaker 3: Nigga, I'm working on my birthday, nigga. I got rehearsals for my tour on my birthday night.
00:17:55
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? We say it all the time, man.
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Speaker 3: Tour starts March 1st.
00:17:57
Speaker 2: When you get money, birthday could be your every day, bro. You can wait for one day to celebrate. You're supposed to celebrate every day.
00:18:03
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Every day is a blessing, bro.
00:18:05
Speaker 1: This is facts. And to be getting money on your birthday is even more of a blessing. This is facts. You heard?
00:18:11
Speaker 2: Because I done lost money on my birthdays thinking, yeah, it's my birthday.
00:18:14
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to Vegas and come back broke. So, you know what I mean?
00:18:20
Speaker 2: To get paid on your B-day is definitely up all the time, my nigga.
00:18:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Now, all your albums to me, crap.
00:18:28
Speaker 2: It's definitely singles I always wish you dropped. You win with... What order do you rank your albums in that you think? What you think your best album is?
00:18:40
Speaker 1: Your favorite?
00:18:42
Speaker 3: Can we watch the sunrise together?
00:18:46
Speaker 1: The new shit, huh? That's the new one, yeah. Nah, I'm enjoying recording again and shit, but if I had to rank the albums, Vinny Benevici would have to be first. Yeah, that's special.
00:19:03
Speaker 3: That's the first one. Yeah, I would say Benedict E.C.
00:19:05
Speaker 1: First. And then I would probably go with Rule 336. And then Pain is Love. Y'all, I'm always mad. And that's kind of how I came up with 1-2-3 in that form, too.
00:19:23
Speaker 2: Talking about rule 3-3-6, I'm mad you never shot a video for murder. Rain is murder, or murder rain, whatever that is.
00:19:30
Speaker 3: I think I did.
00:19:31
Speaker 1: Every time it rain, every time it murder.
00:19:34
Speaker 3: I did shoot a video for that. I did shoot a video for that.
00:19:36
Speaker 1: I did.
00:19:37
Speaker 2: It might have been a time when, you know what I mean, niggas wasn't in the crib watching BET no more.
00:19:41
Speaker 1: I got to go check that. That's one of my favorite. That video was good, too. I can have Patrick Swayze in the video with me in that shit.
00:19:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all was awesome. Rest in peace, Pat.
00:19:51
Speaker 1: They was on some shit back in the day. They have no clue, Ru. That was a good video, but that was during a time when niggas was off-rule a little bit, and so it didn't do what it was supposed to do.
00:20:07
Speaker 3: Here's the crazy thing about music, right?
00:20:09
Speaker 1: In times and space, motherfuckers don't realize when they was hating on a nigga or what period of time.
00:20:17
Speaker 3: They forget too. You know what I'm saying?
00:20:18
Speaker 1: So now when I do these records and they get the reaction that they get, I'm like, niggas was hating on me during this moment. I said, you niggas forgot too. So you wasn't enjoying the music. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
00:20:33
Speaker 3: You wasn't enjoying the music. They just didn't want to admit it, bro.
00:20:37
Speaker 1: That's all it was. Because, nigga, I do Class Act. I do Wonderful. I do fucking New York. I do fucking Murder Rains. Nigga, the reaction for these records is crazy. And these is all records that I was putting out after, you know, all the beat and shit. So it's like, it's weird in that way. But this is what's the... beauty of music, you know what I'm saying? It touches people. Definitely, man.
00:21:01
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of niggas ain't going to admit it.
00:21:03
Speaker 2: You know, this is a world where people choose sides and, you know, when something is hot, people.
00:21:08
Speaker 3: On that side.
00:21:09
Speaker 1: But we shouldn't, though.
00:21:10
Speaker 2: And that's just how it is, man, and it's whack.
00:21:12
Speaker 3: You know, niggas, it's going through.
00:21:14
Speaker 1: If you ain't got something to do with something, think about this, right? And I say that all the time, too. But if you ain't got nothing to do with a situation... Particularly, right? Yo, the fans be acting like they in the drama now. They are. Yo, like, they be acting like they in the drama. I be reading these tweets and like, yo, half of y'all kids never even seen these dudes' neighborhoods.
00:21:36
Speaker 2: Been to they cities. All you did was listen to the music. How can you inject yourself into somebody's drama, though? Like, the fans, that shit is crazy. But we not going to get in.
00:21:49
Speaker 3: The fans is the fans.
00:21:51
Speaker 2: And they like what they like. You never could go against that. Music is what it is. But the fact that they don't want to admit that rule, come on, man. Niggas know you was smoking niggas' boots since the time you came out. Nigga, you kidding me?
00:22:04
Speaker 1: Nah, fuck that. I don't want to talk about it. Fuck that.
00:22:08
Speaker 3: You started the pause game.
00:22:09
Speaker 1: No, you don't know what the pause game is. No, Dame started that. It started with Rock and Fella. That's where it started. Yeah, Dame started that. I tell them all the time, I'm going to pause it. Yeah, that's why Cam and them keep it going.
00:22:21
Speaker 2: Me, I got kids, man. Why am I supposed to tell my daughter, get the rock? No, get the ball, man. Like, fuck.
00:22:27
Speaker 1: Then what? So to tell my daughter, pause?
00:22:30
Speaker 3: Now she a school teacher.
00:22:31
Speaker 1: Pause. Like, come on. It's the way we got to draw the line. We need to work up. Let me tell you, let me tell you. When I was 12, I.
00:22:42
Speaker 3: Never played the pause game. I said, yo, I'm not playing that shit.
00:22:46
Speaker 1: Yo, chill. And niggas... Took this shit 20, 30 years later, still playing.
00:22:52
Speaker 2: The illest pause in history happened on Hard Knock Life on our bus.
00:22:57
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you remember. Bobby Dash.
00:23:01
Speaker 2: The illest pause in history. Yo, my niggas, niggas was watching Braveheart. So this is some time, I guess, after they killed this whole Mel Gibson, whole family, and he going to major rampage, kill everybody up, and it's a scene where he got mad blood, and he just slaughtered bad niggas, right?
00:23:20
Speaker 3: So that nigga by the dash was like, Dad.
00:23:23
Speaker 1: I know the bitches is like, he look good right now. And bitches was like, what? Hey, whoa, whoa, yo, what? Yo, Yo, my nigga. That shit is infamous.
00:23:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember. Now I remember that shit.
00:23:38
Speaker 1: Niggas tore themselves up. That was infamous, my nigga.
00:23:42
Speaker 2: Like, niggas don't know. Yo, that shit was funny. We was hurting.
00:23:47
Speaker 1: Yo.
00:23:47
Speaker 3: Yo, on the tour, I toured. Yo, that tour was crazy.
00:23:50
Speaker 1: Yep.
00:23:51
Speaker 3: So I bust, they called us.
00:23:52
Speaker 1: I bust.
00:23:52
Speaker 3: Rikers Island.
00:23:54
Speaker 1: And J-Bust was Fantasy Island. Yep. He had everything on his bus. It was beautiful. Yo, DeMarco.
00:24:00
Speaker 3: My bus was fucking jail, nigga. That's what's crazy.
00:24:02
Speaker 2: We took clue in them peoples, DeMarco, Diggs, all of them. Remember, they came on the bus. Yo, we're talking about DeMarco. Niggas stole my DJ.
00:24:12
Speaker 1: Yo, y'all want to know why Bleak don't perform? I don't have a DJ. I'm back to the, I got a deck machine. I don't, nah. Niggas stole my DJ. 20 years later, now they cousins. Where this shit been at?
00:24:28
Speaker 5: All these kids, like, yo, used to be in the crack house, baseline.
00:24:34
Speaker 1: These niggas used to just say what up. 20 years later, damn it, blood. Yo, niggas used to, yo. Yo, you know me since we really grew up.
00:24:44
Speaker 3: I know.
00:24:45
Speaker 1: We went to, you know, I called him one day to do, I'm like, yo, son, yo, I.
00:24:49
Speaker 3: Need you to do this show. I got this party.
00:24:51
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, bleep. I can't.
00:24:53
Speaker 3: I got to hold my cousin down.
00:24:55
Speaker 1: So, like, who your cousin? That nigga said, you know Ja, my cousin. Ja, your cousin. Like, nigga. Nah, he didn't hit you with that shit, nigga. That's the funny nigga. This nigga said, yo, that's my cousin. You know I got a... That's his cousin. He could've just said, yo, he paying more, bleep. I ain't gonna let y'all ass block me, I'm out. I'm gonna wait until I see you take care of this. That's how you did my nigga, Mel? You left him and told him I had to take care of my cubs.
00:25:29
Speaker 3: Yo, and another thing.
00:25:30
Speaker 1: Southside, nigga.
00:25:31
Speaker 2: All these years, though, notice, why you never had a hype.
00:25:34
Speaker 3: Man at your shows? It's that fucking working out.
00:25:37
Speaker 1: 400 push-ups in the dressing room. Nah, you know, real shit, Bleak, I seen the dog do this. now listen here's the illest shit I used to be the dog's hype man I used to hype man for the dog you know what I'm saying I was you know I was still rapping I had my own shit going on but this was during survival of the illest tours you know I'm.
00:26:05
Speaker 3: Trying to you know get out there moving around so I'm.
00:26:08
Speaker 1: On tour with the dog I'm out there doing on stage doing shit with the dog you know doing my shit so I'm you know I'm starting to get a little she's like Came over to the door and said, no, I ain't mad.
00:26:24
Speaker 3: He clipped me.
00:26:25
Speaker 1: Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Like, nah, I ain't fucking with you. So I'm like, yeah. So now I'm like, yo, I'm like, yo, what's up?
00:26:34
Speaker 3: Why the dog clipped me? Why I can't come out and do the shit no more?
00:26:37
Speaker 1: He said, nah, the dog said it's better for him to do his shit by itself. So... So I....
00:26:48
Speaker 3: You know, I took it for what it was.
00:26:52
Speaker 1: And when it was my time to move, I said to myself, I need the stage for myself like how the dog had the stage for himself. And the whole hard knock. He never had a hype man either. No.
00:27:06
Speaker 3: And let me tell you what I took from it.
00:27:11
Speaker 1: If you could command the stage by yourself without anybody else, you're a star. You're a big star. You're a big star. Because these people are locked in on you. Ain't no dancers. Ain't no motherfucking, no other nigga running around. There's nothing, nigga. It's just you connected to these people. And you gotta carry that, nigga. For 30 minutes, an hour. I'm on stage for an hour and a half.
00:27:40
Speaker 3: Nigga, I don't, there's nobody, my nigga.
00:27:44
Speaker 1: And for me, That connection to the crowd like that is something that, I don't know, man. You can't get that in any other form. You know what I'm saying? That shit is music and music only. And that connection is my connection with my fans strictly. You know what I'm saying? And they know, even though I'm going on this big tour right now, I'm popping out for some tapes. Even the corny ones. Nori think it's corny.
00:28:16
Speaker 2: I'm going to be overhanging everywhere.
00:28:19
Speaker 1: Denmark.
00:28:20
Speaker 3: Listen, Paris and London.
00:28:22
Speaker 1: Are going to be lit. I got more dates. But I'm coming back to the States June 1st. I got on the low right now. I got about 30 dates. I'm coming back home to the States. I start June 1st. So my nigga ain't playing. Rule out their gear to that major chicken. You heard?
00:28:39
Speaker 3: Listen, this is my 25-year anniversary, Blink. I just wanted to go celebrate, have a good time with my fans.
00:28:45
Speaker 1: That's right.
00:28:45
Speaker 3: Make a new album, put it out for my fans, go out on tour for my fans.
00:28:48
Speaker 1: Are you working with in-house producers on this new project?
00:28:52
Speaker 3: I'm working with everybody. I did the joint.
00:28:55
Speaker 2: I see you got a hit maker walking the building.
00:28:59
Speaker 1: Hit on the motherfucking... You know what I'm saying? That's his whole side of the fucking building over there. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, yeah, he came and blessed me with some magic, some of the Hitman, Hitmaker magic. You seen the tweet the other day.
00:29:18
Speaker 2: You like, yo, I got some shit. I was like, yeah, I'm about to see Rue.
00:29:22
Speaker 3: I want to hear this.
00:29:23
Speaker 6: And then now I'm trying to hit you some shit. I definitely got to hear this, Rue. I'm just enjoying fucking making business. I seen you freestyle the other day on the shit. On Sway shit, yeah.
00:29:34
Speaker 1: How it feel?
00:29:34
Speaker 3: It feel good, don't it?
00:29:35
Speaker 1: It feel good when niggas be like, yo, this nigga still got it. Yeah, they gas me up.
00:29:40
Speaker 3: I'm back in the studio.
00:29:45
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying? I just did an interview the other day, you know what I'm saying? I was on Tamron Hall's show and I said, yo, listen, artists that's in our age group and I need to start making music again. You know why? Because hip hop has grown up. This is the 50th anniversary of hip hop. So you got to understand something. People 50 years old and beyond listen to hip-hop. That's a fact. Niggas that's 60 or 70 listen to hip-hop. So that's a very broad audience now that we are able to grasp.
00:30:29
Speaker 3: It ain't just the 18 to 35-year-olds. No more.
00:30:31
Speaker 1: It's not.
00:30:31
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? So hip-hop has to have that growth.
00:30:35
Speaker 2: And I think for a special power era... The fans, our fans all grew up. Like, you know, niggas got two, three kids.
00:30:43
Speaker 1: You know, niggas ain't outside trapping. Think about us.
00:30:46
Speaker 3: We got to talk.
00:30:47
Speaker 1: Think about us. Yeah. Just think about yourself. Nori, me, you. Think about us. What the fuck we got to listen to? Because I don't listen, I can't listen to all of the young shit. I like some of it, I can vibe with some of it. But I can't listen to it all. Yeah, and so when Nas makes an album, it's refreshing for us. When Jay makes an album, it's refreshing for us. You understand? I'm like, yo, well, when Ja Rule makes an album, it should be fucking refreshing for us because I'm not out here trying to be the young nigga. Nigga, I'm old. Nigga, I'm 47, 48.
00:31:19
Speaker 3: I'm proud of that shit.
00:31:20
Speaker 1: That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? That's a fact. It's a point to that.
00:31:29
Speaker 3: Watch all those niggas in this room.
00:31:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:31
Speaker 3: Yo.
00:31:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, nigga, me too, nigga. I'm proud of these 40-year-olds. We might just want some C-21, my nigga. But it's real shit, though. Niggas, hip-hop has changed, niggas, in this way.
00:31:42
Speaker 3: A 45-year-old.
00:31:47
Speaker 1: Nigga, let's just take a 40-year-old nigga. A 40-year-old nigga, 20 years ago, nigga was coming up here in some hard bottoms and a suit, nigga. Because that was what a 40-year-old man was. Looked like him.
00:32:01
Speaker 7: And looked like him representing himself.
00:32:02
Speaker 1: And that was nothing wrong with that. That was just the era. Hip-hop now, 40-year-old niggas look like all of us in the street. But that's a fact, and that's real shit. And so that's what keeps us younger. So the music has to still be getting made. I wasn't even going to bring this up. You grabbed the shorts. Yeah, I got, yo, listen, let me say something, man.
00:32:25
Speaker 7: Your shorts is above the knee. We got to talk to Jerry. We got to talk to Jerry. Jerry, you making these shits a little too cut. I'm sagging right now.
00:32:35
Speaker 1: I'm sagging. It's only one reason that makes that good.
00:32:39
Speaker 2: Listen, when the shorts is above the knee, I say on.
00:32:43
Speaker 3: My man, Tata, shout out my guy T.
00:32:45
Speaker 1: Tata.
00:32:46
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? That's when your money is super. So that made that article we read. Y'all got a hundred M's.
00:32:53
Speaker 1: I'm sure I said that check clear, baby.
00:32:55
Speaker 5: Nah, I'm going to tell you.
00:33:01
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you the true side. This is the true side of a nigga who just got some real money.
00:33:09
Speaker 3: When you see niggas start sitting like this.
00:33:11
Speaker 1: When you see niggas cross their leg like this.
00:33:16
Speaker 3: This nigga got a lot of money. You know, I've seen you, bro. I've seen you.
00:33:20
Speaker 1: I've seen you, Norris. I've seen your leg like this. I've seen your leg like this. My man don't even want to break the weed down. Norris is getting a lot of money right now.
00:33:28
Speaker 3: I know, man.
00:33:29
Speaker 1: He's getting a lot of money, man.
00:33:30
Speaker 3: On that extra shit right now. Spread some love.
00:33:32
Speaker 1: Break bread, nigga. He's like, yo, I might need to hold something. Stay on that hundred. Let's see what he got.
00:33:41
Speaker 3: Him and Gotti over there making moves.
00:33:44
Speaker 1: I'm going to just say my catalog is very, very frugal. Hell yeah, nigga. You got them bombs, nigga. Yo, listen. I think you and Vinny getting 20,000 spins a week on the radio. That shit didn't exist until you dropped the records, nigga. Nigga was getting 100,000 spins a week.
00:34:04
Speaker 3: I'm going to say this.
00:34:06
Speaker 1: I'm laughing, but it's a little bit.
00:34:09
Speaker 3: Def Jam didn't even have a.
00:34:13
Speaker 1: like a rhythmic pop radio department before me. No, this is what I'm saying, bro. I remember. They didn't have a crossover. They didn't have that. They didn't have a taboo crossover. And I came and said, we need a department for this nigga, what he's doing. So I got a little bit true, but for Def Jam, maybe. Yeah, you invented that shit.
00:34:36
Speaker 3: You said her name was Martha.
00:34:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's a fact.
00:34:41
Speaker 2: This nigga in records was putting up numbers and shit was being played every 10 seconds.
00:34:46
Speaker 1: And I appreciate you for giving me my flowers. Yeah, definitely. I'm appreciative of my flowers, man. You know why we gave you my flowers? I was very appreciative. I'm appreciative of my flowers, man. Yeah, man, nah. You know what I'm saying? You were saying trends, man. I would not appreciate my niggas more. I appreciate my niggas for giving me my flowers, man. I remember Irv Gotti tried to get me on the girl shit. He was like, yo, you see Ja, man? You see Ja? Stop bullshit. Believe you over there worrying about bars. Just write the fucking rhymes. Let somebody see the hook. I said, but yeah, I don't got the muscles. I don't got the muscles. I don't know if they want a chubby nigga right now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but Big was talking his shit. Yo, I'm recording now, right? So, I just told my man Cheech, yo, all these.
00:35:36
Speaker 2: Years, I used to look at Ja making these records, and I used to be like, how the fuck is he doing this? But you had the cheat code back there. Because my nigga been married for years. You know what I'm saying? I just wrote a song about it, and it's easy to write that song when you look at your wife and be like, yeah.
00:35:54
Speaker 1: I wrote Put It On Me, by the way. That's what I'm saying. It was hard to write when you got bitches like, man, fuck these bitches. Kick this bitch out.
00:36:01
Speaker 3: You write bitches and shit and.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: Hoes and tricks. That's what it's like. That's your bitch. That's what it's like. That's your bitch. That's what it's like, too. You know what I'm saying? But them big, monstrous records, man, I had you doing shows in Turkey. Egypt, nigga, those records come from, you really have to know what that feeling is. And I used to say to myself, this nigga, how he doing this shit?
00:36:25
Speaker 2: I ain't never put two and two together. This nigga going home looking at his wife like, stand right there. She like, Mona Lisa, baby, I got you.
00:36:33
Speaker 3: What would I be without you? I got you.
00:36:38
Speaker 1: Like you know um good records too come from the pain yeah i'm saying and so you know i was young and you know in a relationship with my wife and.
00:36:59
Speaker 3: You know, we went through our pain era, too.
00:37:02
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. Marriage is not easy, bro, for y'all thinking it is.
00:37:06
Speaker 3: It's a roller coaster. It's a roller coaster. Definitely. Roller coaster of love.
00:37:11
Speaker 1: Yo, get it. Get that on film. That's what you get, nigga. That's what you get. Yo, chill.
00:37:24
Speaker 8: Niggas trying to kill me.
00:37:27
Speaker 1: Who wrote this? Niggas just... And what's this? Straight do say?
00:37:32
Speaker 3: Y'all niggas on something.
00:37:33
Speaker 1: Murder, suicide. Murder, death, kill. And here. Dang, play it. Yo. because they can say rollercoaster and that better shit ends man because one day you high and next day you low because shit you miss a dinner date or you try a new restaurant before wifey go with you it's beef when you get back home it be little shit then you watch the show that's how I watch the show and you watch one episode oh my god it's smoke down now you ain't talking for two days she gotta watch three episodes now without.
00:38:11
Speaker 3: You Marriage.
00:38:15
Speaker 1: Is cool shit, you know?
00:38:16
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, definitely, man.
00:38:18
Speaker 1: Having kids, raising a family, it's cool shit. It's fly shit. Me and my son, you know, we're here hanging out and shit.
00:38:23
Speaker 3: That's what's up, man. You know, he make music now.
00:38:25
Speaker 1: So, you know, I told him, come watch your pops make music. Last time I had you in the studio with me, he was on my shoulders. He was like two years old. No, he don't.
00:38:35
Speaker 2: Hell no.
00:38:36
Speaker 1: He don't, you know what I'm saying? And so... You know, for him to be here, it's just, this shit is just amazing. And that's a blessing, man, to be out here, because, you know, my son just turned 22, so I be traveling around, doing shit with him.
00:38:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're 23, so he's saying shit.
00:38:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, you get to do shit that I never did with my pops. I never, you know, I grew up without a pop, so.
00:38:56
Speaker 1: Me too. So it's experience that shit with your son, I know it hit different. That's what we with my son. My son know. See, that hundred million hit. Yeah, yeah. My son don't. He still got to live by the rules of society. Don't get that job. Nigga, weed is legal. Nigga, weed is legal. Everybody smoke weed. And let me tell you something. He probably doing it on a low-loon fucking freak. Listen, nigga. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, my nigga. If he is, go ahead and smoke a joint with the young man. Open up a new door. A whole new door.
00:39:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, my son different. He don't have his fashion shit. Dave, my son think he Kanye. He about to not be wearing shoes soon.
00:39:39
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. My son different, nigga.
00:39:42
Speaker 3: Like, if you be little bleak, you be like bleak.
00:39:44
Speaker 1: You sure that shit, son?
00:39:46
Speaker 2: Like, I always tell niggas, I tried to keep my son away from the shit that I, you know, that I was into. I think I put him so far into the square life that I make him a rectangle.
00:39:58
Speaker 1: That's all right, though. That's all right, too, though. That's all right, too. Because if Kanye meet my son, I might never see him again.
00:40:06
Speaker 2: Like, dead ass. Like, he on his fashion. No, like, everything is fashion. Like, don't even talk to him if you ain't talking about fashion. My son, I got to talk to him about school. Like, yo, son, what's up? Yeah, you go through New Balenciaga? She ain't had her grades well.
00:40:21
Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah. That's cool, you know what I'm saying? Like, people speak different languages in life. Hell yeah. I love him. That's my boy. That's my firstborn. I just wish he would have been a ball player. You know how you like, yo, little nigga, I tried, I failed. You got it. Why? Why though? But why though? Why?
00:40:43
Speaker 3: One of the richest niggas in the world is the LVMH, nigga. You know what I'm saying?
00:40:47
Speaker 1: Tell me about it. Let him do his fashion shit. You never know.
00:40:50
Speaker 3: He got his shit. He got his shit, man.
00:40:53
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:40:53
Speaker 3: What you saying?
00:40:54
Speaker 1: I know.
00:40:55
Speaker 3: Up in there. You know what I'm saying?
00:40:57
Speaker 1: Yeah. Shit. I work with them guys.
00:40:59
Speaker 3: Ace of Spades.
00:41:00
Speaker 1: I just had a call with them before I came here. You know what I mean?
00:41:04
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about starting a business, right? It starts as this.
00:41:09
Speaker 1: Dreams. Ends up this. Yep. It starts as a dream, man. Start a business to me. Start off as a whole different business and then become this. We can look at examples that's right in front of us. Rock Nation started to fucking rock those music, nigga. Roc Nation does fucking every fucking thing.
00:41:29
Speaker 3: Everything. So this is what I'm saying.
00:41:31
Speaker 1: Amazon started as a book fucking selling book, but now they sell every fucking thing.
00:41:35
Speaker 3: They about to sell some cars on Amazon.
00:41:37
Speaker 1: Yo, chill. Amazon. You know what I'm saying? Like, they done made the world lazy. Niggas order everything now.
00:41:42
Speaker 2: Like, my wife did the whole Christmas shopping on Amazon.
00:41:46
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, you don't go to no stores?
00:41:49
Speaker 1: You don't go through the aisle, like, actually physically pick up a box? No. The worst is... Yeah, I'm going to order.
00:41:55
Speaker 2: The worst, yo, the worst is I'm going to order the patio set on Wayfair.
00:42:00
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, cool, good.
00:42:03
Speaker 2: That shit come like it's for fucking your dog or something.
00:42:06
Speaker 1: That shit be all small. It look bigger in the picture. I bet it do. It look bigger on the showroom floor, too. Let's go touch it, baby. Like, I can't shop online like that.
00:42:18
Speaker 3: I ain't mad at you. I ain't mad at you.
00:42:20
Speaker 1: Word up. That online shopping is murder. Like, what the fuck?
00:42:24
Speaker 3: Shit don't never come the way you want it to.
00:42:26
Speaker 1: No.
00:42:26
Speaker 3: But that's the way of the world, man. People want convenience.
00:42:33
Speaker 2: What's next for The Rule, man? What's next for Icon? What's next for The Rule? I know you got the album coming out. What's next for Icon, man? Next two, three years, man. What we doing?
00:42:46
Speaker 1: You know, I'm entering some cool partnerships, you know, strategic partnerships, you know, with people and companies like that. the next level. This is my third year with Icon now. I've lost the money building it and now a lot of great things are happening going forward for me to move the company forward. It's a network. You can go on Apple TV and get it for an announcement. I'm now starting to acquire a lot of content for the for the network, but that's not the route I want to kind of go. I don't want to be Netflix. I want to, I want to, you know, really set my model with original content. So, you know, that, that is what I'm doing. Like my vibes concert series, I'm about to do laughing it up, which is, it's just, it's like deaf comedy. Yeah. My old two deaf comedy jam. Got to have Russ come out and do just, just one night, just over the night.
00:43:55
Speaker 3: You know, God bless.
00:43:57
Speaker 1: Good night.
00:43:57
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta come out and do that for me. Sure.
00:44:01
Speaker 2: The African homie that be blasting on everybody's show.
00:44:05
Speaker 1: What's my bad name? The African kid. Michael Brosnan? No, not him, man.
00:44:11
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the dude be talking, dropping knowledge, dropping real knowledge.
00:44:15
Speaker 1: Oh, Dr. Uma? Yeah, Dr. Uma. Yeah, you heard what he said. That's what happens when you dip in that pool, baby. You know what I'm saying? Yo, listen.
00:44:23
Speaker 3: Don't, you can't quote Dr.
00:44:24
Speaker 1: Uma. No, no, no. This is for all the kids out there watching. You know what I'm saying? The one thing they can't stop you or take away from you is knowledge. That's right. So whatever I went through, for me, you know, I was always on my learning shit. You know, you use this opportunity to grow and learn. in prison for two years. I've read, I've read a bunch of books.
00:44:59
Speaker 2: I forgot my G did a two year stretch on Rikers Island for that slammer.
00:45:04
Speaker 3: Nah, I didn't do it on Island for Rikers.
00:45:06
Speaker 1: They got four with that slammer jam. I forgot about that. How, how, Let me tell you, you know this nigga's your man. This nigga's stupid, man. This nigga got caught with that slammer jam. Yo, I forgot, my man. You ain't look away, man. Yeah, y'all both was like, yeah. That's crazy, man.
00:45:32
Speaker 3: But these niggas took me on a jail tour, Bleak. I swear to God.
00:45:35
Speaker 1: Niggas took me on a jail tour.
00:45:37
Speaker 3: Nigga, I seen every fucking jail. Nigga, these niggas had me anywhere.
00:45:41
Speaker 1: That's crazy, man.
00:45:43
Speaker 3: But through that process, learn, learn, learn from.
00:45:49
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:45:51
Speaker 3: I became a reader while I was in prison.
00:45:53
Speaker 1: You know, I read some books and shit before I went to prison, but when I went to prison, I learned and understood the importance of reading. I'm not a reader. I ain't no cat. I mean, you should.
00:46:10
Speaker 2: I watch your movies. I'm bad at the read. I read contracts, read shit that's important. You ain't got to read.
00:46:19
Speaker 3: You ain't got to read. It's just like.
00:46:21
Speaker 1: They got fucking audio books.
00:46:23
Speaker 3: No, I know.
00:46:24
Speaker 1: Podcasts.
00:46:25
Speaker 3: You can listen to shit that you're interested in.
00:46:27
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get on that. But knowledge is what I'm saying is power. All the time, bro. The more you know, the more you grow. That's a fact. The knowledge is power.
00:46:35
Speaker 3: I mean, like.
00:46:36
Speaker 2: And me, I learned, me, I taught myself, I say more from just reading. I like to put boots on the ground, like me, like to learn about my history. Most people read about black history on the internet. I went to Africa, stayed for a month. You know what I'm saying? Like to really learn about our culture. So I do shit a little bit different, like, but books, the.
00:46:56
Speaker 1: Words don't, they don't move to me. It's just like, I'm wasting time to me.
00:47:00
Speaker 3: It makes it feel like I'm, what am I doing?
00:47:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:47:04
Speaker 3: That ain't for everybody.
00:47:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, bud? Don't get it twisted. What is for everybody is what's inside. Don't get it twisted, though. Nigga can read, you heard?
00:47:13
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I don't take it. I ain't on this four minutes for a drop, you heard? That's what I'm saying, man. I'm going to send you some good books. Yeah. I am.
00:47:26
Speaker 3: I'm going to send you some good books.
00:47:27
Speaker 2: Like, I used to read back in the days, like, you know, Hove put me on the Donald Goins books.
00:47:31
Speaker 1: Back in the day, I read a lot of shit like that. Like, shit that interests me.
00:47:35
Speaker 3: Like, you know what I mean? I read the real freeway Ricky Ross book.
00:47:38
Speaker 1: I even got it signed. You know what I mean? Like I said, shit that interests me. Those are cool books to read. Not just going to sit there and be like, yo, there's a book. Let me read it. Those are stories.
00:47:47
Speaker 3: I'm talking about knowledge books. Yeah, that's what you're going to learn from.
00:47:52
Speaker 1: Learn.
00:47:52
Speaker 2: 48 Laws of Power. You know what I mean? I've read 48 Laws of Power and shit like that.
00:47:59
Speaker 3: Everybody read that shit.
00:48:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody, right? Maybe on the Sun Tzu shit. It's a good book to read, Sun Tzu. You know, Heart of War is good to read.
00:48:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?
00:48:08
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
00:48:08
Speaker 2: I did woo dabble, but I'm not going to be like, yeah, I'm going to join the book club.
00:48:13
Speaker 1: Fuck out of here. You're wrong with reading. Don't preach the message to the kids. Even my daughter will be like, my dad capped it. You got to let the kids fucking understand that.
00:48:26
Speaker 3: That's what it is.
00:48:27
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. And knowledge. However you get it. You know, like I said, you don't got to read. The more you know, the more you grow. However you receive the knowledge. Learn from people.
00:48:38
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? You can learn each one, teach one.
00:48:39
Speaker 1: That's right. Whatever it is. I learned from you. Learn, you know what I'm saying? I remember, you don't even know I learned this from you. I was on tour with this nigga one day and this nigga got a check over the envelope.
00:48:53
Speaker 2: They're like, yo, what's that from? He's like, yo, this is from BMI, my publisher check. Like, publisher check?
00:48:58
Speaker 1: What's that? He's like, you don't get that? Like, nah, fam. He's like, yo, you never signed up to ASCAP? Nah, he was like, nah, what's that?
00:49:05
Speaker 3: They get like, yo, I'ma put you on.
00:49:07
Speaker 1: Tell your lawyer, sign you up, man. He said, every song that get played on the radio, video, all that, you get paid.
00:49:14
Speaker 3: I'm like, you seriously?
00:49:16
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, every three months. So, you definitely put me on to that.
00:49:21
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, you learn from everybody you're around. And I took knowledge and a piece from everybody. Like, Earth Goddy was a major, major.
00:49:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a sponge, Bleep. Niggas don't realize, you know, our people watch this shit. I watch and analyze everybody, you know what I'm saying, in the room at some point.
00:49:38
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
00:49:39
Speaker 1: I do that.
00:49:39
Speaker 3: That's just how I move.
00:49:41
Speaker 2: You definitely sit back and analyze. Because there's a lot to learn from you. And you don't learn from everybody. You ain't one of those dudes who be like, yo, new faces in the room, we bugging out. You would be like, hold on, let's check the scene out. Because like I said, we've been on many, many missions on tour, man. That night with X-Men was one of the illest nights on tour, nigga.
00:50:03
Speaker 1: With the rental car. When he took Kyle's car, he was in the rental.
00:50:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. X used to do so much crazy shit. God bless the day, man.
00:50:15
Speaker 1: I used to do a lot of fucking crazy shit, man.
00:50:19
Speaker 3: But it was fun back then. Definitely.
00:50:21
Speaker 1: Remember, we used to have them dice games on tour.
00:50:24
Speaker 8: Niggas was losing. Remember we used to kidnap each other and shit? We used to kidnap each other on the tour. From different crews. From different crews. Like, we'd go get niggas, take a nigga.
00:50:35
Speaker 1: From Rockefeller, and had a nigga, and now y'all got to come get him.
00:50:41
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Yo, we used to be wild lit. They don't have no idea.
00:50:46
Speaker 1: Niggas don't have that camaraderie in hip-hop like that today.
00:50:51
Speaker 3: At least I don't know maybe they.
00:50:53
Speaker 1: Do I don't know nah the southern the southern artists rock the niggas be on tour together they be doing Christmases the niggas be chilling but I know I went on a tour recently and yo it was like crickets man I was in the back just floating around you know it wasn't my tour nobody wasn't rocking yeah everybody's in they room doing they one two it wasn't like it wasn't it didn't have that vibe you know.
00:51:14
Speaker 2: Yeah but nah a lot of southern artists they rock New York I feel like we especially that borough shit Like, it was on that, you from here, we from here, we stick with our own crew. Like, niggas didn't really rock with everybody outside like that.
00:51:29
Speaker 3: Like, nigga, I even had in my.
00:51:31
Speaker 1: Body, nigga, rock outside of Rock is Rude. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't rock with everybody. You and Norris, all my person. We was all like that.
00:51:39
Speaker 3: We was very self-contained and shit, all of us.
00:51:41
Speaker 2: I can say, like, a hip-hop outside of the Rockefeller crew, like, what artists I was the closest to would be you and Nori.
00:51:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nori, like, opening up a fuckload outside of you and, you know, Crack. Yeah.
00:51:57
Speaker 3: Not too many.
00:51:58
Speaker 1: I just got cool with Fat Joe and Nori when he gave me the call. You know what I mean?
00:52:02
Speaker 3: I'm on a turntable. He's like, Glee, what you doing?
00:52:05
Speaker 1: I'm driving. Like, yo, I'm going to tell you something. Fat Joe got the record. He want to see if Hov can get on. What? He's like, I'm like, you serious? He's like, yo, I call him on three way. Spoke the fat joke. Like, and then the rest is history.
00:52:21
Speaker 3: Here we are. Joe, cool as shit, man.
00:52:23
Speaker 1: Word.
00:52:24
Speaker 2: Like, cool as shit, man. Yo, they said Joe was riffing. He said, you ain't clear what's love for him.
00:52:30
Speaker 1: He said, he ain't going to see you for that. He said, I didn't clear what's love. Yeah. I thought that shit went triple platinum, didn't it?
00:52:37
Speaker 3: What's love?
00:52:39
Speaker 1: Right? I don't know. That's the joint with him and Ashanti. I thought it went triple, but he said you ain't clear, then it's a little bit of schmo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So... I'm just... I'm just a messenger. Don't kill the messenger.
00:52:53
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
00:52:54
Speaker 1: I told you we friends now. You know what I'm saying?
00:52:57
Speaker 3: That's... That was a great record for crack. Hell yeah.
00:53:00
Speaker 1: Nigga, that shit was super smoker.
00:53:03
Speaker 3: Me too.
00:53:03
Speaker 1: Super smoker. I'm not kind of mad they didn't give that to me. You feel me? I ain't never have a Ja Rule, Shanti feature. Yo, let me tell you, it be weird with the records and shit, man. They really weird, man. Like, sometimes certain records work and then you do other records and it don't. Oh, you think this record is going to work? It doesn't. Or, you know, you never didn't think this record was going to work.
00:53:25
Speaker 2: Talk about what you said about Leo earlier, how he didn't believe in certain things. I remember when my second album, The Understander, was coming out and we tried to go with the record Everything's.
00:53:36
Speaker 3: Ago with Hoag.
00:53:37
Speaker 1: And it ain't go, it ain't work.
00:53:39
Speaker 3: And Leo was like.
00:53:40
Speaker 1: Blake, we can't push it back no more. We have to drop the project. So I'm like, all right, I've been telling y'all for months, let's use.
00:53:47
Speaker 3: Around here as the single.
00:53:48
Speaker 1: And he was like, you sure? It's not New York. I don't think New York is going to like it. I'm like, trust me.
00:53:55
Speaker 2: We dropped that single, the album with Gold Leo. It's like, we popping champagne.
00:53:59
Speaker 1: You were right. So you gotta trust yourself.
00:54:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fact, man. You gotta believe in yourself, man. So I ain't gonna hold you. It's a blessing always seeing you, my brother. You know I love you like a brother. You probably don't remember this, man.
00:54:15
Speaker 1: How we first linked up, man. What's your memory on how we first linked up? I remember the whole thing.
00:54:24
Speaker 5: Ha ha ha!
00:54:25
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha!
00:54:34
Speaker 5: Yo, listen.
00:54:38
Speaker 1: Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill.
00:54:48
Speaker 5: Yo, chill.
00:54:49
Speaker 1: Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Hove was... Earth had to produce the record. I think he did.
00:54:59
Speaker 2: He had to produce the record because he was in the video with them. And they was all on the golf carts at the mansion. Y'all was wildin'. It was for the remix of Can't Knock the Hustle.
00:55:09
Speaker 1: With Mary J. Day, I did it to the first Paradise Beat. You sure? You sure? Bro.
00:55:15
Speaker 3: It wasn't at the.
00:55:16
Speaker 1: Remember when Jay did the shit with him and Big? It wasn't at that video shoot? Nah, man. No, at that Mansion for Fools Paradise remix, bro. I'm telling you.
00:55:29
Speaker 2: And then the next time we linked up was going to Cancun for my video shoot with Hovda.
00:55:34
Speaker 1: It's all right, shit.
00:55:35
Speaker 3: When you got locked up. That, I remember.
00:55:38
Speaker 1: That was, that was fucked up. But then, you remember, you used to come to Marcy, fuck with me. I used to pull up in Queens, fuck with you. We linked up. We used to move around together. Word.
00:55:49
Speaker 3: Word.
00:55:49
Speaker 1: But yeah, Cancun. Yo, Cancun trip was a nightmare, man.
00:55:56
Speaker 2: My man got locked up. I got sick. Rest in peace. Almost had a fight with Black Rob. Yo, film me out. Yo, shit was crazy. Yo, we get the Cancun. Yo, I almost had a fight with Rob, yo. Break it down.
00:56:12
Speaker 1: We get to Cancun, right? We get to Cancun. My nigga Rob, yo, rest in peace. All of us. Irv, you, Jay, all of us. It was a bunch of old crew. Then I ain't going to mention their name now because it's irrelevant. But we in Cancun. Emil was with us, Bean, everybody.
00:56:28
Speaker 2: And I remember we seen, you know how they always have in the Spanish countries, the policia.
00:56:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's like called 911. And Emil, my bad, man. I got to say, it's the world now. It's weird. Yeah. She was like, yo, oh, I ain't know they had 9-1-1 out here, too. And Hova's like, what? So if something happened to you, what you was going down? 2-1-2, 9-1-1? Fingers was out there dying like, yo, chill. So then that happened. I forgot why you got locked up with your son fucking with the girls, too.
00:57:05
Speaker 3: They did something. It was the funniest shit.
00:57:08
Speaker 1: Yo! Can we ride?
00:57:10
Speaker 3: You know how the strip be mad packed?
00:57:12
Speaker 1: Yes. We was in like this big ass bus going down the strip. So one of the girls had to use the bathroom. We decide, all right, we'll get out off the bus, walk along and, you know, try to use, let one of the girls use the bathroom. By the time the bus catch up, we, you know, we get back to the bus. So we get off the bus. Walk along, they ain't find nowhere to pee. They get the bright idea. I'll just pee right here, just kind of cover me. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to think which one it was. I don't remember which one it was. Remember, it was three of them. It was a major figure. It was all three of them. Yeah, it was three girls. I don't know how it just ended up being them. So now, so now, so boom. We trying to, we trying to block, we trying to block, you know what I'm saying, the shit that happened. And a nigga come out of nowhere and he's like trying to get a peek at the shit, you know what I'm saying?
00:58:07
Speaker 3: So one of the girls like pushed the nigga back.
00:58:08
Speaker 1: The nigga's like, you know, trying to like, so I just catch the nigga. We jump in the nigga, you know what I'm saying? So this is the funniest shit. So now we run over down the block. It's the funniest shit. We run over down the block. We, you know, laughing, celebrating our victory over this thing. We just fucked up laughing. It was the real shit. So one of the girls hit, like, the car. It was coming out of, like, a driveway. She hit the car, coming out of the back or something. She hit the car, and, like, three Mexican niggas got out of the car. These niggas was livin', and they was, the girls was on fire. But now the niggas wanna fight me, you know what I'm sayin'? So now, I'm like, all right, so boom, I pick up a little rock and some shit, you know what I'm sayin'? And I'm goin' back to go up to the niggas, and these niggas is like surroundin' me and shit, so while they surroundin' me, the police come out the car. These niggas start talkin' to the police in Spanish, saying, ba-da-ba-dee-ba-dee, him, him, him.
00:59:09
Speaker 3: Yep, you going down.
00:59:10
Speaker 1: Next thing I know, the police is grabbing me, fuck y'all, nigga, and throwing me in the fucking car, in the police car.
00:59:16
Speaker 3: And this shit was like a VW Bug, nigga.
00:59:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, they ain't got the smallest car. Niggas, it was three other niggas in the back, nigga, they put me in the back with, nigga.
00:59:24
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, it ain't no cuffs to put me in, nigga.
00:59:27
Speaker 1: These other two niggas had.
00:59:29
Speaker 3: Cuffs, I was the only nigga in the back with cuffs.
00:59:30
Speaker 1: I get to the precinct.
00:59:33
Speaker 3: So the precinct, it was like.
00:59:36
Speaker 3: It was weird.
00:59:37
Speaker 1: The satellite put me in this, like, bunch of niggas and.
00:59:40
Speaker 3: Like, five, six niggas in there. And there's no, like, bars or nothing.
00:59:46
Speaker 1: There's no.
00:59:47
Speaker 3: It's just, like, a holding area. No bars.
00:59:50
Speaker 1: And there's two niggas, two officers standing there with, like, guns. And so that's how you don't come out.
00:59:57
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
00:59:58
Speaker 1: So now I'm in there, and I'm trying to, like, tell a nigga. I'm like, yo, you know, I'm a rapper.
01:00:04
Speaker 3: You know, you know.
01:00:06
Speaker 1: niggas ain't speaking no English. So I'm trying to get them to get a nigga to speak English. I start screaming USD, USD. The nigga went, he said, wait, he said, USD? Wait, y'all a nigga? That no English, nigga. This nigga came, I said, yo, listen, man, I'm a rapper.
01:00:23
Speaker 3: I'm here to do a video shoot, you know what I'm saying, with Jay-Z.
01:00:26
Speaker 1: They're like, Jay-Z?
01:00:27
Speaker 3: You know Jay-Z?
01:00:28
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. They ain't know Jay-Z, but they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:00:32
Speaker 3: He was just getting on there. Yeah, so I said, look.
01:00:34
Speaker 1: I said, look. I said, we got USD. I said, I can have them. I said, can I have them bring money to you? I said, how much to give me out? I think it was like a $ 1, 000. You know what I'm saying? He sent somebody. He brought it and he got me a bottle of that shit.
01:00:47
Speaker 3: That shit was funny as hell, though.
01:00:49
Speaker 2: Now, my night with Black Rob, God bless his soul, bro, we was in Senior Frog partying after the video shoot.
01:00:57
Speaker 3: That was the only club open out there.
01:00:59
Speaker 1: Senior Frog.
01:00:59
Speaker 2: In fucking Cancun. We in there getting lit. Now, you know, all day, they like, don't drink the water. And nobody told me, Blake, don't get ice cubes in your drink.
01:01:08
Speaker 1: Jeez.
01:01:09
Speaker 2: I get the ice cubes in my drink. Now, I'm out there little half-dad.
01:01:12
Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
01:01:13
Speaker 1: I'm the nigga little half-dad put his dick on the hat. Yeah. Yo, so we out there now, right? I'm telling Hov. I'm like, he wanted to shoot another scene for the video. And I'm like, Hov, I'm freezing right now.
01:01:26
Speaker 2: Like, it feel like, nigga, like I'm in a snowstorm and I'm in fucking Cancun. Like something ain't right. I got to go to my room. I can't do this shit. So that's why if you look at It's Alright, the third verse, his verse, I'm nowhere to be found because I go back to my room. So now I'm going to the room. My key don't work. I got to come back downstairs, get a key. Now, that's a nigga arguing. Now, I'm standing there dying, feeling like I'm going to throw up. And it's a nigga arguing about his credit card not.
01:01:55
Speaker 1: Working with the incidentals.
01:01:56
Speaker 3: Remember when we was young? That was a.
01:01:58
Speaker 2: Big thing with incidentals. Niggas ain't have that debit card. They like $ 100.
01:02:04
Speaker 3: $ 100.
01:02:05
Speaker 2: No checking. So, you know, I didn't know who homie was. So I'm standing there and I'm like, yo, fam, you bullshit. Look the fuck out, man. I got to get this key.
01:02:13
Speaker 1: Get out of here.
01:02:14
Speaker 2: And it comes to be Black Raw. So he like, what? What you talking about? And I'm like, yo, whatever, fam. Niggas want scrap, whatever. But I got to get this key. Get the fuck out the way, fam.
01:02:22
Speaker 1: Look out. Carlene was there. Carlene like, no, bleep, will you do it? That's Giddy New Artist. That's Black Rob.
01:02:29
Speaker 3: He's from Harlem.
01:02:30
Speaker 1: We family. And ever since that day, me and bro was like this, but that time that fucking Black Rob check it in to a fucking hotel, bro. He was a funny nigga, yo. Yo, he was with the smoke. He wasn't backing down. He wasn't on no sucker shit. He was definitely with the functions. Carlene seen it and was like, Chill. Y'all wildin'. But yeah, I almost died in Cancun, bro. My first time going. Straight up. Drinking them motherfuckin' drinks. I used to love Cancun. Yo, crazy.
01:02:59
Speaker 3: I got in trouble when I got back with wifey and shit.
01:03:01
Speaker 1: We had video talk. So that's why.
01:03:08
Speaker 2: Yo, Cancun was, we was, we was on some shit. I couldn't even finish the first half of it.
01:03:13
Speaker 1: My one little scene that you could barely see me in the motherfucking shit.
01:03:16
Speaker 3: I had to shout out the chick sitting between ways.
01:03:18
Speaker 1: Shit. Yo, yo, yo, yeah, you definitely got some hope. Yo, those was the days, man. Fucking Cancun, boy.
01:03:32
Speaker 2: Damn, but yeah, that video shoot, I know niggas definitely, even me, ho, why that video never.
01:03:37
Speaker 1: Came out, baby? We need that.
01:03:39
Speaker 2: Remix the, what was it? Remix the Can't Knock the Hustle.
01:03:43
Speaker 1: We need that.
01:03:44
Speaker 3: I was in there. First cameo. Niggas didn't see I was outside. You know what I'm saying?
01:03:48
Speaker 1: It's outside.
01:03:49
Speaker 3: It's little niggas, man.
01:03:50
Speaker 1: They need to see that. It's footage, man. I wish they had a bunch of footage of us. See, this camera shit wasn't around. They had a bunch of footage of us. Hard knock. What was the girl's name who was filming us? E. Easy. Easy. Easy with the camera. We need to find her.
01:04:12
Speaker 3: Easy.
01:04:13
Speaker 1: If you're watching this, reach out.
01:04:15
Speaker 3: To a nigga.
01:04:16
Speaker 1: I need that for my doc, man. I need some of that footage for my doc. She got all the footage. All the footage. Where the fuck was Easy from? I don't know.
01:04:24
Speaker 3: I don't fucking have a clue.
01:04:26
Speaker 2: But I know that white lady seen some black guys going crazy.
01:04:30
Speaker 1: I know she left that tour like these fucking niggas is insane. Straight up. I'm going to tell you something I always talk about, Joe. The Hard Knock Life tour was very, very fucking important. Because it was the first... all hip-hop tour since the Fresh Fest. See, I was young. I wasn't even thinking about that. Nigga, the Fresh Fest was 20 years prior to that. Hard Knock Life tour was the first all hip-hop tour since the fucking Fresh Fest. And you remember Jay made the speech? He was like, yo, listen, this is important, and we all go out, no incidents and shit. The press conference, I wasn't there. Oh, man, yo. I wasn't there with y'all.
01:05:19
Speaker 3: I wasn't lit enough.
01:05:20
Speaker 1: Hell yeah. I wasn't lit either, nigga. Let me tell you something. I was sneaking in the rooms, nigga. I wasn't going to be left on the fucking side. Your word, I wasn't lit enough for the press conference. See, this is the difference. Niggas didn't have to invite me, nigga. I was cold, nigga. Oh, there's a press conference today? I didn't know we had a press conference today. I'm there, nigga. I ain't got nothing to do with it, but I'm there, nigga. So let me tell you. So he made a speech. He made a speech about... how important the tour is and, you know, to hip-hop, basically. Like, if we don't, if we get in fights and get in all kinds of crazy shit on this tour, they'll never fucking bond or ensure another hip-hop tour again.
01:06:08
Speaker 3: And now look. And we did it. And remember we celebrated that night. The last event?
01:06:13
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:06:13
Speaker 3: That's when we was all celebrating. We was celebrating the fact.
01:06:17
Speaker 1: It was over, but the fact that we accomplished that with no incidents and nothing. And now you see what niggas is able to do with the touring game. The touring game is crazy right now. Insane now, bro. And so, yeah, we.
01:06:33
Speaker 3: Was all part of something very big with that, man.
01:06:36
Speaker 1: That fucking tour life, nigga, they have no clue, Ru, man. The fun we had.
01:06:41
Speaker 3: I learned so much, man.
01:06:42
Speaker 1: Like, I went on tour smoking the shit Biggie was rhyming about.
01:06:46
Speaker 3: You pick seeds out your weed.
01:06:47
Speaker 1: Remember? Remember, I bought like three pounds of weed on tour under the bus.
01:06:51
Speaker 3: We was smoking.
01:06:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, bitch.
01:06:53
Speaker 3: It wasn't until I got to L.A.
01:06:55
Speaker 1: You....
01:06:57
Speaker 2: The first nigga who gave me gas was Method Man.
01:07:00
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:07:01
Speaker 2: He walked into the dressing room and was like, yo, what you smoking on, youngin'? And I showed him, that nigga's like, you smoking on this? You buggin'. He was like, yo, my man here, One Stop, and you was like, One Stop here?
01:07:11
Speaker 1: Tell him, put it up. That's my dude.
01:07:13
Speaker 2: And that's when we first met One Stop, and he sold us the Sour Diesel.
01:07:18
Speaker 1: Man, we wanted to rob One Stop at first. Yo, chill. Yo!
01:07:23
Speaker 3: No, that was the shit. That was the whole.
01:07:25
Speaker 1: Yo, what's that? Word, because yo, I told him once that was on the top. I said, nigga, who's going to rob your fucking ass, nigga? He came in with his little dogs and shit, his flip flops on. Yeah, and yo, and so yo, let me tell you how this went down. Yo. So, Kev was giving red mess Oh, I forgot who he was giving these niggas money, budgets to go get weed from this nigga. So I caught on to this shit that was going on. So I said, hold up. I said, where my motherfucking money at, Cam? Where my money at? Cam said, yo, this is only for, you know, the audience. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I ain't got no weed budget. So I told Cam right there, I said, all right, I said, good. I said, well, we're going to rob that nigga then. You know what I'm saying? You go and you get a little something for you and you can please Listen that's your home in them they'll know how foul they are with the monogram now. Oh I used to get looked at like the major crackhead on tour lighting them sticks up. Remember, they used to look at us, Ty Ty, everybody looking at us like, y'all bugging. I couldn't even, when I was a young nigga, they used to even tell me, Blink, you can't smoke that after the show.
01:08:47
Speaker 3: I used to be like, yo, they sunning me.
01:08:50
Speaker 1: Wait till I get older.
01:08:52
Speaker 2: Y'all ain't just ain't going to be telling me none of that no more. But then it was like, no blunts after the show. And they used to have B-Hot, Ty Ty on me like this.
01:09:00
Speaker 1: Gonna fuck you up. I'm telling you, this is why they didn't want you to do the video. They didn't want you to hang with me. They was like, yo, this nigga rude as fuck. This nigga rude and don't listen. Yo, they was talking shit. definitely and then now they all lighting up sticks everywhere monogram happy yeah oh gee oh gee huh take oh gee like what when this happened you gotta love it let me even lighten up i don't know i'm gonna tell you when that happened we were saying yo i don't know if it was the first time or whatever but i this is the first time i seen jay smoke we was in jamaica Oh, yeah. Overseas, he used to like to stick. What was that? Hot Night Jamaica. That's where we was at.
01:09:47
Speaker 3: We was at Hot Night Jamaica.
01:09:49
Speaker 1: That's why I'm here. And fucking.
01:09:51
Speaker 3: We go.
01:09:52
Speaker 1: Me and Angie, as a matter of fact, me and Angie Martinez, me and Angie Martinez go out, like, into the bush To.
01:09:59
Speaker 3: The stick somewhere, nigga.
01:10:00
Speaker 1: What? That's what the nigga said. Go out to the stick, to the bush. And you can find niggas getting weed. That's when we was staying at the Trelani Beach Resort. Yeah.
01:10:07
Speaker 3: I remember that.
01:10:08
Speaker 1: Nigga, we went, and this nigga gave us an ill stick of weed, like some ill, like honey. It was like, what do you call it? Back in the days, it was called like some gold or some shit, man. I forget what it was. Panamanian gold, maybe? I could poke a gold. That's what it was. That's what it was. Yo, nigga. Yo, nigga, I'm telling you, nigga. Yo, we came and brought that shit back. Yo, everybody smoked. Earth, too. Earth didn't smoke. And I told her, I said, yo, if I go platinum, nigga, you got to smoke some weed with me. You know what I'm saying? He was like, bet.
01:10:44
Speaker 3: I was like, what the.
01:10:45
Speaker 1: Fuck you saying? I ain't going to go platinum, nigga. He was like, I know you ain't want to smoke. You know what I'm saying? He's like, no, no, no. I'm just saying.
01:10:51
Speaker 3: When we do, I'll smoke.
01:10:52
Speaker 1: I said, okay. Nigga, we was on the fucking scene. Nigga, I rolled that shit up and put it right in his hands. Nigga was like, yeah, nigga. I'm platinum, nigga. Smoke. I remember when Ben James smoked, none of them. Man, all the OGs. They just switched the game on us and then bought the game.
01:11:06
Speaker 3: Monogram, huh? Monogram.
01:11:10
Speaker 1: OG, wake up.
01:11:10
Speaker 3: Nigga, smoking is.
01:11:12
Speaker 1: It's legal. Like, what the fuck?
01:11:14
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
01:11:16
Speaker 1: It's good. It's all right. No, definitely. But we used to get fined.
01:11:20
Speaker 3: No, I never.
01:11:21
Speaker 1: Yo. Just try some mushrooms, man. Yo, I remember when I seen you.
01:11:26
Speaker 3: Yo, listen.
01:11:27
Speaker 1: Hold on.
01:11:28
Speaker 4: Yo, you a funny nigga, man. Yo, I remember we was out back in the day. I don't know what city we was in. But this is when Ludacris had the snake burn.
01:11:40
Speaker 2: And he was there. Nelly just came out. He was down, down, baby. Super tremendous platinum. And all three of y'all was in the hotel and I come through.
01:11:49
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, Rue, what's up? You like, ain't shit, man. Yo, they got this new shit, bleep. And I'm like, what?
01:11:55
Speaker 3: He's like, look.
01:11:57
Speaker 1: Pills, man. This fucking shit turned the party up, my nigga. This shit get everything going crazy. I'm like, what? He's like, trust me, my nigga. I'm looking at this nigga and he's like, party the party with them now. I'll be back. I'm like, Yo, this nigga rude next level down, nigga.
01:12:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:12:18
Speaker 1: I never fucked with nothing I can't control. That was always my thing. Nah, yo. Mushroom, mushroom. I promise you. That man wants his feet, bro. Ratman, he lost his feet. You don't remember on Hard Knock Life Talk? I might say he lost his feet. It's with him. On Hard Knock Life Talk, they strapped him up. They don't say he took the shrooms. They say he took too much. So I'm in there like, yo, what'd he take? They like, yo, mushrooms. He run around talking about, I can't find my feet. Yo, he take the L shit. In my mind, oh, I ain't never taking that. I need these, baby. I can't lose those. I'm going to take the L shit in the world, nigga. I'm hanging out with Ray in L.A. Just recently, we all flew out there and shit. I'm fucking hanging out with Red and they're like, Red don't smoke weed, don't drink, don't do nothing. No more? I said, yo, you ain't even Red, man, no more. Yo, shit. I said, Red, how you don't smoke? So yeah, it's Red. We get off. Yeah, yeah. You be on this shit.
01:13:17
Speaker 3: We get off the bus, they go, right.
01:13:19
Speaker 1: I said, yo, bro, get one of the joints we had.
01:13:22
Speaker 7: Okay.
01:13:24
Speaker 1: So he smoked the shit outside the hotel. Nigga Red, he gave you some high as a cat. I don't know if Red want niggas to know he's smoking. He smoked a little bit at the joint. Yeah, yeah, you can't get away from it, man. No, but yo, Red don't smoke no more. Red don't drink and wash. You know, that's a master. See, this is the growth of a nigga. But so what he do, he switched his... He had a camera game now. He do his camera shit. He was shooting a video on the plane, right? You know?
01:13:52
Speaker 3: He do his camera shit. But no, he jump out of planes, nigga. That's his shit. This nigga jump out of planes, nigga.
01:13:57
Speaker 1: You did that shit before I remember acting? Yeah. And I'm like, yo, I remember hitting you. But no, but Brad is certified. Like, Red can jump by himself. Red can jump, like, just jump out of planes.
01:14:08
Speaker 3: I never jump with Red, man.
01:14:09
Speaker 1: I won't jump with nobody.
01:14:12
Speaker 2: It's me I ain't jumping out no motherfucking plane come on I don't have the complexion for that we gonna do.
01:14:19
Speaker 1: Some mushrooms and then we gonna jump out where you want me to go we gonna do it in Dubai where you want me to land at if I jump out the plane on a mushroom listen I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you how you gonna do it it's gonna be me him and the wives Yo. And that's when I was, that's when I was fucking. In Dubai, you're going to need a mushroom.
01:14:41
Speaker 3: Because you can't smoke, you can't.
01:14:42
Speaker 1: Do nothing, man.
01:14:43
Speaker 3: They may not have no mushrooms in Dubai.
01:14:45
Speaker 1: All right. Off camera, I got the flop. I don't want to get them hung.
01:14:50
Speaker 3: You know they hang niggas.
01:14:51
Speaker 1: My nigga.
01:14:52
Speaker 3: Yo, listen.
01:14:53
Speaker 1: Nigga. Skydive Dubai.
01:14:56
Speaker 3: We need to go to Thailand, bro.
01:14:57
Speaker 1: It's right there.
01:14:58
Speaker 3: Same shit. You know they... You Thailand?
01:15:00
Speaker 1: You know they.
01:15:01
Speaker 3: I've been to Thailand.
01:15:03
Speaker 1: You know they... No, listen. But they section every drug in the world in Thailand. You know that, right?
01:15:09
Speaker 3: You can go buy four grams.
01:15:10
Speaker 1: Bangkok. It's wild out there, nigga. You can go buy four grams, coke. Nigga, it's wild out there, nigga.
01:15:15
Speaker 3: Trust what I'm saying.
01:15:16
Speaker 1: It's wild out there. I'm just saying, nigga. Listen. I got some peoples out there. Bro, we need to go to Phuket. Come on. Yeah, we all taking the wilds. Norwich, Derry, we go.
01:15:30
Speaker 3: All of us. I want y'all to look up two hotels.
01:15:33
Speaker 1: Everybody ain't here to look up these two hotels in Phuket. One called Stetson and one called Sri Panwar.
01:15:43
Speaker 3: My niggas own these. What, the club? The hotels.
01:15:47
Speaker 1: Oh.
01:15:48
Speaker 3: Sixth Sense is a private island hotel. I think I've been to the other one.
01:15:51
Speaker 1: What's it called? Three Pair Walk?
01:15:52
Speaker 3: Three Pair Walk.
01:15:52
Speaker 1: My homie own it.
01:15:54
Speaker 2: And the Sixth Sense. So when y'all want to go, just let me know. I'll make sure niggas know on that arm muscle.
01:16:01
Speaker 1: What?
01:16:01
Speaker 3: Not the jaw muscles. The other muscles.
01:16:03
Speaker 1: Yo. Yo.
01:16:07
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, my homie's older. I want to go to Thailand.
01:16:11
Speaker 2: Whenever you stop touring, my nigga, you on 4,000 dates right now, you just said.
01:16:15
Speaker 3: I'm home. I'm home in, uh, in, uh, in... 24 or 25?
01:16:22
Speaker 1: Like, August.
01:16:23
Speaker 3: August, September.
01:16:25
Speaker 1: That works. That's perfect. It's always nice in Thailand, my G. Thailand lit. I'm telling you, Phuket, y'all ain't get to blow your mind, bro.
01:16:33
Speaker 3: I've been to Phuket, too.
01:16:34
Speaker 1: Phuket is dope, too. It's ill, bro.
01:16:36
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Shreveport, my homie on that Sixth Sense, it's a private island hotel.
01:16:40
Speaker 1: Yo, you know what? You know what we can do? This is what we can do. See, we got to film this camera shit. Yo, here's what we can do. He just came up with the master plan. We just talking now and shit. But yo, no, here's what we can do. I got some shows for the tour that they want me to do. In Thailand? Yes. Oh, we there. I'm there. 100,000%. I'm there. 100,000%. I'm there.
01:17:02
Speaker 3: Fuck that.
01:17:03
Speaker 1: I'm going to set up some after parties too. Hey, you know what I mean? You probably know my man over there that do the shows and shit over there. There's two niggas over there. My man Muhammad and then there's my man... Top.
01:17:17
Speaker 3: See, I fuck with the rap homie, Con, man. These niggas is.
01:17:24
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, titanium, these niggas is like... And they got his own Red Bull drink, everything, bro. These niggas is through the roof. I think I know what you're talking about. What's the name of the drink?
01:17:34
Speaker 3: Titanium, Red Bull.
01:17:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
01:17:36
Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about.
01:17:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. My homies, man. I'm telling you, that thing, I just... My man, Ty, he fucks with them niggas too. Yeah, bro, I'm telling you, it's... We all did dinner one night. Never mind, we're getting off topic. I'm telling you, bro, it's through the roof out there, G. We... It's next level out there, man. Four weeks signed out.
01:17:56
Speaker 2: I want to know why I ain't got no Rue Rosé.
01:18:01
Speaker 1: At my crib.
01:18:02
Speaker 3: My man got a wine company.
01:18:04
Speaker 1: I drink wine. I got a wine fridge.
01:18:07
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be loaded. I'm sitting here.
01:18:10
Speaker 1: I got a CE42. I don't even know why I ain't got a case of Earl at the crib. You heard? I need Earl so I can call Earl. You heard?
01:18:18
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here.
01:18:19
Speaker 1: Man, I need Ja Rule at the crib.
01:18:21
Speaker 3: My Red Rose is.
01:18:23
Speaker 1: For sure. I'm not bullshitting. It's one of the best Sauvignon Cabernets on the market. I already know. And it's one of the strongest. My shit is like 15.4% alcohol content. I need that.
01:18:34
Speaker 3: I got a guy. Red Rose, y'all. Yeah, it's called Red Rose.
01:18:37
Speaker 1: Check it out. I got White Rose coming, too. I did all the Roses. So I got Red Rose. I got White Rose. I got Pink Rose. My White Rose is my white wine. I'm doing a Sauvignon Blanc, and I'm doing a Pinot. And with my Red. I got.
01:18:51
Speaker 3: Remember, Nori was Pinot Grigio.
01:18:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, still. That nigga was not playing, boy. But I got my shit. I'm still testing my shit because I want it to be, you know, favorable to a Santa Margarita, which is... Nori put me on to the Santa Margarita. You know what I'm saying? He's been on that shit for years. Yo, it's a great fucking bottle of wine. And it's fucking... Cost-efficient. It's not out of the price range for people to go get. My Red Rose is a little pricey, but it's a great bottle of wine. I cannot fucking give it to any less than what I'm giving them.
01:19:30
Speaker 3: Great taste, cost.
01:19:30
Speaker 1: But it's still not that expensive. It's $ 100 a bottle, man. You know what I'm saying? It's not crazy, but you know what I'm saying? But it's such a good red. And then I got my Pink Rose. Yeah. That's my rosé, and I got that coming. And then I got my Concrete Rose. which is my tequila that I'll have in number two. Oh, tequila gang. Yeah, but all these shit. Going for it now.
01:19:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, man.
01:19:53
Speaker 1: You know that fishing line that you heard? The Spirits game is good. The Spirits game has been good. That shit like selling oil, B, because I remember when we first launched Duce, niggas used to look at me like, what's this? Sure. Now, how can I get that? I'm trying to tell you. You know what I'm saying? It's like selling oil. I'm about to do some special launches with my wine. And some, you know, some very sexy restaurants that we all frequent. That's a low-key spot people don't know, man. The restaurants is where you hit them at. Yeah.
01:20:24
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
01:20:25
Speaker 1: Because it gives you your beverage a premium. That's right.
01:20:29
Speaker 2: Like, the restaurants is where you hit them at. It's where you make your beverage, like you said, a premium beverage.
01:20:34
Speaker 1: Yep.
01:20:35
Speaker 2: So, you know, it's been, like I said, man, you my bro. We did the intake already.
01:20:40
Speaker 1: We got to do it twice. My motherfucking brother. Love you, nigga. You know it, bitch.
01:20:45
Speaker 3: You did it.
01:20:52
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00:00:21
Speaker 2: You already know what it is. Y'all back with another one. Rock solid. Here with my motherfucking brother, man. Y'all have no clue how me and this man go back, man.
00:00:31
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? We go back like stocking caps. You heard? It's my bro rule, you know. Shit, man. I don't even know what to say, man. You already know, man.
00:00:43
Speaker 2: One of the biggest fucking artists I ever collabed with, ever rocked with, been on tour with, got.
00:00:50
Speaker 1: Me in beef, everything. You know what I'm saying? But I just here to let you know, I say Blinky Blink, and he said... Yeah. Blinky blink. Yo, we dead in the drama. We dead in the drama. I dead in it.
00:01:05
Speaker 2: Because I seen him, right? Yo, I seen him at the beat show in New Orleans. And I'm like, yo, I'm telling my wife. I'm like, yo, I look like Blinky Blink. This nigga D's doing shit. So I'm like, damn, man.
00:01:18
Speaker 3: I don't want no.
00:01:19
Speaker 2: You got it, Blinky. I'm like, yo, but Rude started that. He's like, yeah, tell Rude let's get our workout on.
00:01:25
Speaker 1: I said, yo. I'ma text him his beef with the workouts now. I text you too. Good work, my nigga, man. Good seeing you, bro. You know, I bump into you.
00:01:36
Speaker 3: All the time.
00:01:36
Speaker 2: My wives hang out. It was just at Brooklyn Chop House. I got smoke behind that. For those who don't know, the Blinky Blink shit started from the Hard.
00:01:46
Speaker 1: Knock Life DVD.
00:01:48
Speaker 3: We was in the limbo.
00:01:49
Speaker 2: And I think this after I had gotten the motorcycle accident, I broke my foot. And I told you, I'm like, yo, first nigga on the set. to see me when I was hurt was Blinky. And I'm like, I look up like, nigga, I'm okay. I'm not letting him see me hurt.
00:02:04
Speaker 1: Out of everybody, not you. So I'm telling Rude, this nigga like, nah, that wasn't it. Blink want to battle. You scared. You scared, nigga. You scared to battle Blinky Blink. So this shit, this is before Viral, before Graham, all that. So everywhere I used to go, niggas used to be like, yo, Blink, why you ain't battle Blinky Blink? And I'm like, yo, it was never no dad who, like, John just said that out of nowhere. So that's why when I seen him, I'm like, Bleep, what's up? He's like, nah, tell Ruth let's work out. Nah, for all those that don't know, like, Hard Knock Life Tour, that shit was like, that was like our coming out. you know, party and shit. That was my graduation for- For you? Me, I had one verse. That's what I had. I had a verse. Nah, nah, but still, your verse was different. My verse was brought out, yo, come do your verse, get out of here. I used to sit there and be like- Look at this nigga, taking his shirt off.
00:03:06
Speaker 3: Running out. I'm getting my 20 questions in.
00:03:08
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep it honest. We was jealous. I was standing in the back like, damn, nigga, loan me two of those. Let me do the loan for the next show. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't even, like, in shape back then. You know what I'm saying? I was just skinny. Yes, you was, man. I was just slim.
00:03:35
Speaker 3: I was like my son. You know what I'm saying?
00:03:38
Speaker 1: He works right now.
00:03:39
Speaker 3: He's in good shape now.
00:03:40
Speaker 1: Yo, they say your son looks more like you than you. You know what I'm saying? He do. He do. He do. He in with me, too.
00:03:47
Speaker 3: I got him with me.
00:03:47
Speaker 1: I got him in with me.
00:03:48
Speaker 3: I got him out of that little room.
00:03:49
Speaker 1: He got the house.
00:03:50
Speaker 3: He stayed at the house and shit.
00:03:52
Speaker 1: Oh, shit. Yeah, man.
00:03:53
Speaker 2: But that Hard Knock Life tour, man, that was it, man. I seen everybody plant their roots there and then grow and take it to the next level, my G. And watching you do what you did with all them songs.
00:04:07
Speaker 1: I remember this is something, too. I remember being in L.A. This is two different incidents. This is when I knew. I'm like, nah, John, he different.
00:04:17
Speaker 3: He through the roof. He always know his shit.
00:04:19
Speaker 1: We already in the watch club, but this is the fourth.
00:04:21
Speaker 2: This is my real watch club. This was before Watch Club. This is when I knew Ru was that nigga nigga. I'm in LA.
00:04:30
Speaker 1: Shooting a video.
00:04:31
Speaker 3: Nigga's like, yo, Ja Ru out here?
00:04:33
Speaker 1: I'm like, where we at?
00:04:34
Speaker 2: What hotel you staying at? Nigga's like, nah, he ain't in no hotel. They got the murder mansion. What?
00:04:40
Speaker 1: Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. They got the what?
00:04:43
Speaker 2: I have to go see this. We go to the murder mansion and it was up. I'm like, nah, these niggas is it.
00:04:51
Speaker 1: It's over.
00:04:52
Speaker 3: Irving, I'm going to get you out of here.
00:04:54
Speaker 1: Those were good times, man.
00:04:56
Speaker 2: Beautiful times, bro. Beautiful times. That was one time. And then the second time we was in the malls in L.A. Both times in L.A., yo. I don't know what mall we was in, but something happened in the mall. And they was wildin', everybody runnin' through the mall, and then I see you.
00:05:13
Speaker 1: You was with, like, 50 Crips. I'm like, yo, Ruben, and you like, Bleak, what you doin' here? I'm like, I'm goin' to get some sneakers. You like, yo, it's goin' down, Bleak. Here we are, man. Get the sneakers, man. Get up outta here. It's goin' down. I'm like, this nigga. I used to hang out with all them Bloods, Crips, everybody. You know, we kinda, like, started, like, the... the late night LA after party house party vibe. Like, I went out there to do my second album and shit. We got the crib and it was like an ebb and flow, you know, like we go party, you know, have, you know, clubs, cribs, everybody come back to the crib party. But it was like, it was different because, you know, Pac Death was still fresh, even though it wasn't fresh.
00:06:07
Speaker 3: It lingered for years.
00:06:09
Speaker 1: The freshness of his passing lingered in L.A. for years. And so when we first went out to do my album and I got the crib and shit, and then Gotti got the crib, it still felt fresh. Hell yeah. It still felt real fresh. And for us to embrace everybody... in L.A. the way we did and for niggas to embrace us the way they did.
00:06:34
Speaker 2: Y'all was the first East Coast rappers besides, I say, because like, Duck Down and them had the major West Coast pass.
00:06:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even know that.
00:06:42
Speaker 2: Y'all niggas had the major West Coast pass because I'm in the more like, Well, look at this nigga, Rue, rolling.
00:06:51
Speaker 1: I love you.
00:06:52
Speaker 3: I love the West Coast, man. You know what I'm saying? The West Coast just felt good, nigga. Bring him in.
00:06:56
Speaker 2: I seen L.A. both times, man. Like, I seen it before the Big E.
00:07:00
Speaker 3: Come on, nigga. What are we doing here? Like, I've seen L.A.
00:07:09
Speaker 1: Before.
00:07:09
Speaker 3: We've been to L.A.
00:07:10
Speaker 2: Before both times, man, fucking with Ed Love and them niggas and everybody.
00:07:14
Speaker 1: Remember? Kaiser and the fucking with Fat Burger. And after the Pac shit, it's like L.A. just totally smooth. A lot of people niggas don't know. is that me and Bleak was going to do an album. Yeah, I was getting into that. I was going to ask you what happened, you know what I mean? What happened, nigga?
00:07:30
Speaker 3: You blew up.
00:07:31
Speaker 1: You blew up. Nah, nah, don't do that. Don't do that.
00:07:33
Speaker 3: Yo, I'm going to tell a true story.
00:07:35
Speaker 1: Yo, you blew up. True story. This is true story right here. Not that you told me that. You was just on tour. Don't do that. Don't do that. Because, yo, my second video. My second video. Murder for Life.
00:07:48
Speaker 3: You clipped me.
00:07:49
Speaker 1: You see the shit? You see the lies? Yo, you see the lies? Yo, they clipped me. Yo, they gave me the part. Yo, you know they say watch for the hook. I'm going to tell you what happened. He ain't let me watch for the hook because he put me in the video for... You might not even know. Hold up, you might not know this. What happened? I'm about to tell you. I'm about to tell you the God's honest truth, nigga. You my brother. Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. You know, I wanted nothing more than for me and you, Rockefeller, Murder Inc., Ja Rule, Bleak. We was on that. We just came off the tour. Yeah, yeah. We was talking about doing a BQE project. Nigga said Bleak can't be in your video.
00:08:32
Speaker 2: Who said that? That had to be Dame. Dame, you did that? We need Dame up here. That couldn't have been hoes. Nigga, let me tell you something.
00:08:44
Speaker 1: I was hurt, nigga. I was like, what you mean my nigga can't be my nigga? Bleak's working on his project. We about to do Bleak's project, put Bleak out. And Bleak can't do your project and be in your video right now. That was Major Captain America. They ain't even want my project to come out. They want to be Nisiku. What's that? We gotta get to the bottom of this. We need to get Dame home. Somebody needs to smoke. It definitely wasn't Biggs because Biggs don't talk. Biggs would have been like, I don't give a fuck. It wasn't Biggs that made the decision. We need Dame up here. I don't know who made the decision. I don't know if it was Jay or Dame. But I know that's the word that I got back to me. They said Bleak can't be in the video. So now... What did I have to do? I had to change the song. Yo, when I seen it, it seemed like that. So you think I was going to go change the fucking song? I didn't change the record, nigga. I ain't know that.
00:09:40
Speaker 3: I wish you wouldn't have hit me.
00:09:41
Speaker 1: I was tight, nigga. I got to find out who sent that message. Nigga sent that message on a roll. Wild. I was tight. Yo. And I think, real talk, I think that would have been a dope coming out party for both of us. Like, I was already kind of moving. You know, my album was you know, moving a little bit. But, you know, that was my first album. I only had the one single, Holla Holla. And we did the remix. We smoked that.
00:10:04
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
00:10:06
Speaker 1: Like, yeah. And you did the fucking remix. But that was after. That's why I was like, yo, did they set me up?
00:10:13
Speaker 3: Yo, my nigga.
00:10:14
Speaker 1: Clip me from that and throw me in this. Like, bro. We got y'all. Cause I out of here. I don't know how that went down. But yeah, that's hip-hop history. But you see how two stories can be told. Yeah, that's crazy. He thought I clipped him. I'm like, nah, man, you clipped me.
00:10:30
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, sometimes the industry, they hit you with that Pac-Man.
00:10:34
Speaker 1: Sizzins, get you out of here. Yo, but talking about the homies, what's up with Black Child? That's my yo. Black, all the artists y'all had on Murder, Inc.
00:10:44
Speaker 2: I can say Black, me and him built a major relationship. We used to be out here in Miami going crazy.
00:10:49
Speaker 3: Black, my nigga, man.
00:10:50
Speaker 1: I love Black.
00:10:51
Speaker 3: That's my nigga.
00:10:52
Speaker 1: And Vida. Vida. She lived in Jersey in my same town. I used to see her all the time at the store.
00:10:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, I speak to Vida all the time.
00:11:00
Speaker 1: Word. It was my peoples, man. I always fucked with them, man. Shout out to Black Vita. Good people.
00:11:06
Speaker 3: Know them, the people. Those my peoples, too.
00:11:08
Speaker 1: Black Vita. Definitely, man. Fucking... Yo, hold on.
00:11:11
Speaker 3: All of them.
00:11:11
Speaker 1: I fuck with everybody. Of course.
00:11:13
Speaker 3: You know, I love them all, man. Let me.
00:11:16
Speaker 1: See, damn. We got to that already.
00:11:18
Speaker 3: You got your notes?
00:11:19
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yo. Oh, that's what we're doing.
00:11:21
Speaker 3: Yo, chill.
00:11:21
Speaker 1: Fuck. Yeah, I got to get my dope. Yo, what's speaking of that? Yo, no, this is Norio. Norio, you talking about his dope? Yeah, if y'all learned it, B, I'm going to say. Y'all learned it on set. Man, throw that shit away. Nah, nah, nah, because I need to remember certain shit. I need to remember certain shit. We smoke too much. This stuff affects the weed, y'all. But yo, nigga, give him a teleprompter or something. That's better than fucking notice it.
00:11:59
Speaker 2: But talking about paying homage, do you feel you get enough credit? Because in my eyes, bro, you're one of the first that started the rapping, singing shit and on the low. not that I hate it, but I was envious of that.
00:12:12
Speaker 3: Used to be like in the studio.
00:12:13
Speaker 1: Like, hell no, God didn't give me that baritone. He didn't give me those vocals. I used to be like this nigga going there singing his own hook, writing his verses, then put a little more on it and be like, yeah, I'm out of here. These niggas is cheating. B, what the fuck happened over here? I gotta just rap all this shit? I'm gonna tell you why it worked though. Because I can't sing it. You know what I'm saying? Honestly. So, real talk, niggas felt like, like, nigga, I can do what that nigga's doing, and they can sing along with it, too. It's not like I was fucking, you know, a real singer. So it worked for me in that aspect, but, man, nigga. Nigga, you had them bombs, bro. Niggas don't even know.
00:13:00
Speaker 2: One of my low-key biggest records that people, everywhere I go, every.
00:13:04
Speaker 1: Girl is like, Bleak, Bleak, I know this record. It's my favorite record. Infatuated.
00:13:09
Speaker 3: People don't even know.
00:13:11
Speaker 1: That I called my dog. Yo, Bleak, I'm going to tell you right now, nigga, that's one of my favorite fucking hooks that I wrote.
00:13:17
Speaker 3: My nigga.
00:13:18
Speaker 4: They don't even know I put that call into my dog.
00:13:21
Speaker 3: That shit is dope, nigga.
00:13:22
Speaker 1: Word up. It was dope. I wish it would have gotten, I don't know. I should have shot a video for that. I feel like there's two records I should have shot a video for. That, Infatuated, and of course the record with Rihanna. But my shit don't work for everybody. Yo.
00:13:35
Speaker 3: They're like, look, it didn't work for Nori. Me and Nori did the joint.
00:13:39
Speaker 1: Leo called my shit watered down and all this crazy shit. Popcorn! He's in popcorn! He over there flipping the popcorn, you know what I'm saying? Nigga, get the fuck out of here.
00:13:50
Speaker 3: We all ain't believing around here.
00:13:53
Speaker 1: Nah, let me tell you though, but Lansky was a smart businessman. He knew how to put artists in competitive spaces against each other without them being envious. Well, they may be a little envious, but without them being that being a thing, you know what I'm saying? Without getting into their natural, you know, Relationships, you know what I'm saying?
00:14:18
Speaker 3: He did it with me, JNX, all the time.
00:14:20
Speaker 1: He'd just come in, he'd just pop up and be like, hey, you know, X is working on his new album. And I'd be like, damn, the dog working again? You know what I'm saying?
00:14:31
Speaker 2: Like, Jesus Christ, he just dropped out. That's one thing I feel like they don't give you enough credit for.
00:14:36
Speaker 3: Niggas don't know, Rude.
00:14:37
Speaker 2: You was up there dancing with the dogs as a young man.
00:14:41
Speaker 3: I was different. I was different. Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:14:44
Speaker 2: That's a lot of niggas that you couldn't just, a lot of people can't, you know, God bless, can't just rhyme behind DMX. A lot of niggas can't just rhyme by a hove. And I'm not talking about the hove today. I'm talking about the hungry Jay-Z trying to get to today. You was on those records going toe to toe with niggas hard.
00:15:03
Speaker 1: We all had our own thing.
00:15:05
Speaker 2: Y'all niggas was on y'all shit sparring like a motherfucker on those records.
00:15:09
Speaker 1: We had our own thing, you know, and I think that was dope. You know, X was the ultimate grimy street nigga and shit. Jay was like the ultimate fly, flossy nigga and shit.
00:15:22
Speaker 3: And I was for the bitches.
00:15:24
Speaker 2: So we all kind of had our thing. Nah, but it ain't start that way, Rude. Them first records. Murder Graham and all that. You wasn't talking to no bitches. I mean, that's just rap. You ain't had the muscles yet. You ain't had the muscles yet. You just had the muscle.
00:15:40
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You wasn't talking to the bitches on Murder Graham.
00:15:46
Speaker 2: Y'all niggas was going hard back then.
00:15:49
Speaker 3: Nah, it was good fucking time.
00:15:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, man.
00:15:54
Speaker 3: I enjoyed every aspect of what our come up was.
00:15:58
Speaker 1: Of course, man.
00:15:59
Speaker 3: It was the best time.
00:16:00
Speaker 1: Those were the golden eras. Everything. I enjoyed it all, nigga. It was all very... It was... It was a learning curve at every aspect of it. Definitely. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like I needed each thing to take me the way I'm at. You know, the way I navigate is different. The way I move is different.
00:16:26
Speaker 2: Bro, like, if you ask me, you touring more now than before. Maybe you just was in Turkey somewhere. Remember, our wives, we was on there before. Our wives hang out.
00:16:36
Speaker 1: They go out.
00:16:37
Speaker 2: It was in Brooklyn Chophouse. And she telling me, listen, and I'm going to tell you on the low, Norman.
00:16:42
Speaker 1: Tried to shit on you. You know what I'm trying to say? Yeah, Norrie shitted on you. You see? See?
00:16:46
Speaker 3: He ain't know I was going to.
00:16:47
Speaker 1: Tell you this. My nigga, Inno. What he did this time? That sound like an Inno move.
00:16:50
Speaker 5: What's up?
00:16:50
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that. The wives is talking about the sunrise talk. Right. And they like, you know, my wife's like, yo, Blee, when we going to go? Let's go somewhere.
00:16:57
Speaker 3: So I hit Norrie.
00:16:58
Speaker 2: Norrie, let's link up with, you know, let's pop out. Nigga say, yo, John going.
00:17:02
Speaker 3: To be in the poor country.
00:17:03
Speaker 1: What's up, man? Did I call Johnny? I told him that. I told him, I said, man, ain't no countries overseas boring, man. I'm going everywhere. He was laughing at me. I told him I'm doing Ireland for New Year's. He's like, Ireland? You bugging. I'm only going for a check. Nigga, if I tell you where I was for New Year's, nigga, I was in Virginia, nigga. I don't fuck, nigga. The bag.
00:17:37
Speaker 3: Word up.
00:17:37
Speaker 1: It was a bag of Virginia, nigga. I was in Virginia, nigga. You know, I had a good time, man. I don't give a fuck, nigga. I don't care about holidays, birthdays, that shit. Like, you know, niggas would be thinking I'm doing something, you know, dope, fly special for my birthday.
00:17:51
Speaker 3: Nigga, I'm working on my birthday, nigga. I got rehearsals for my tour on my birthday night.
00:17:55
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? We say it all the time, man.
00:17:56
Speaker 3: Tour starts March 1st.
00:17:57
Speaker 2: When you get money, birthday could be your every day, bro. You can wait for one day to celebrate. You're supposed to celebrate every day.
00:18:03
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Every day is a blessing, bro.
00:18:05
Speaker 1: This is facts. And to be getting money on your birthday is even more of a blessing. This is facts. You heard?
00:18:11
Speaker 2: Because I done lost money on my birthdays thinking, yeah, it's my birthday.
00:18:14
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to Vegas and come back broke. So, you know what I mean?
00:18:20
Speaker 2: To get paid on your B-day is definitely up all the time, my nigga.
00:18:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Now, all your albums to me, crap.
00:18:28
Speaker 2: It's definitely singles I always wish you dropped. You win with... What order do you rank your albums in that you think? What you think your best album is?
00:18:40
Speaker 1: Your favorite?
00:18:42
Speaker 3: Can we watch the sunrise together?
00:18:46
Speaker 1: The new shit, huh? That's the new one, yeah. Nah, I'm enjoying recording again and shit, but if I had to rank the albums, Vinny Benevici would have to be first. Yeah, that's special.
00:19:03
Speaker 3: That's the first one. Yeah, I would say Benedict E.C.
00:19:05
Speaker 1: First. And then I would probably go with Rule 336. And then Pain is Love. Y'all, I'm always mad. And that's kind of how I came up with 1-2-3 in that form, too.
00:19:23
Speaker 2: Talking about rule 3-3-6, I'm mad you never shot a video for murder. Rain is murder, or murder rain, whatever that is.
00:19:30
Speaker 3: I think I did.
00:19:31
Speaker 1: Every time it rain, every time it murder.
00:19:34
Speaker 3: I did shoot a video for that. I did shoot a video for that.
00:19:36
Speaker 1: I did.
00:19:37
Speaker 2: It might have been a time when, you know what I mean, niggas wasn't in the crib watching BET no more.
00:19:41
Speaker 1: I got to go check that. That's one of my favorite. That video was good, too. I can have Patrick Swayze in the video with me in that shit.
00:19:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all was awesome. Rest in peace, Pat.
00:19:51
Speaker 1: They was on some shit back in the day. They have no clue, Ru. That was a good video, but that was during a time when niggas was off-rule a little bit, and so it didn't do what it was supposed to do.
00:20:07
Speaker 3: Here's the crazy thing about music, right?
00:20:09
Speaker 1: In times and space, motherfuckers don't realize when they was hating on a nigga or what period of time.
00:20:17
Speaker 3: They forget too. You know what I'm saying?
00:20:18
Speaker 1: So now when I do these records and they get the reaction that they get, I'm like, niggas was hating on me during this moment. I said, you niggas forgot too. So you wasn't enjoying the music. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
00:20:33
Speaker 3: You wasn't enjoying the music. They just didn't want to admit it, bro.
00:20:37
Speaker 1: That's all it was. Because, nigga, I do Class Act. I do Wonderful. I do fucking New York. I do fucking Murder Rains. Nigga, the reaction for these records is crazy. And these is all records that I was putting out after, you know, all the beat and shit. So it's like, it's weird in that way. But this is what's the... beauty of music, you know what I'm saying? It touches people. Definitely, man.
00:21:01
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of niggas ain't going to admit it.
00:21:03
Speaker 2: You know, this is a world where people choose sides and, you know, when something is hot, people.
00:21:08
Speaker 3: On that side.
00:21:09
Speaker 1: But we shouldn't, though.
00:21:10
Speaker 2: And that's just how it is, man, and it's whack.
00:21:12
Speaker 3: You know, niggas, it's going through.
00:21:14
Speaker 1: If you ain't got something to do with something, think about this, right? And I say that all the time, too. But if you ain't got nothing to do with a situation... Particularly, right? Yo, the fans be acting like they in the drama now. They are. Yo, like, they be acting like they in the drama. I be reading these tweets and like, yo, half of y'all kids never even seen these dudes' neighborhoods.
00:21:36
Speaker 2: Been to they cities. All you did was listen to the music. How can you inject yourself into somebody's drama, though? Like, the fans, that shit is crazy. But we not going to get in.
00:21:49
Speaker 3: The fans is the fans.
00:21:51
Speaker 2: And they like what they like. You never could go against that. Music is what it is. But the fact that they don't want to admit that rule, come on, man. Niggas know you was smoking niggas' boots since the time you came out. Nigga, you kidding me?
00:22:04
Speaker 1: Nah, fuck that. I don't want to talk about it. Fuck that.
00:22:08
Speaker 3: You started the pause game.
00:22:09
Speaker 1: No, you don't know what the pause game is. No, Dame started that. It started with Rock and Fella. That's where it started. Yeah, Dame started that. I tell them all the time, I'm going to pause it. Yeah, that's why Cam and them keep it going.
00:22:21
Speaker 2: Me, I got kids, man. Why am I supposed to tell my daughter, get the rock? No, get the ball, man. Like, fuck.
00:22:27
Speaker 1: Then what? So to tell my daughter, pause?
00:22:30
Speaker 3: Now she a school teacher.
00:22:31
Speaker 1: Pause. Like, come on. It's the way we got to draw the line. We need to work up. Let me tell you, let me tell you. When I was 12, I.
00:22:42
Speaker 3: Never played the pause game. I said, yo, I'm not playing that shit.
00:22:46
Speaker 1: Yo, chill. And niggas... Took this shit 20, 30 years later, still playing.
00:22:52
Speaker 2: The illest pause in history happened on Hard Knock Life on our bus.
00:22:57
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you remember. Bobby Dash.
00:23:01
Speaker 2: The illest pause in history. Yo, my niggas, niggas was watching Braveheart. So this is some time, I guess, after they killed this whole Mel Gibson, whole family, and he going to major rampage, kill everybody up, and it's a scene where he got mad blood, and he just slaughtered bad niggas, right?
00:23:20
Speaker 3: So that nigga by the dash was like, Dad.
00:23:23
Speaker 1: I know the bitches is like, he look good right now. And bitches was like, what? Hey, whoa, whoa, yo, what? Yo, Yo, my nigga. That shit is infamous.
00:23:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember. Now I remember that shit.
00:23:38
Speaker 1: Niggas tore themselves up. That was infamous, my nigga.
00:23:42
Speaker 2: Like, niggas don't know. Yo, that shit was funny. We was hurting.
00:23:47
Speaker 1: Yo.
00:23:47
Speaker 3: Yo, on the tour, I toured. Yo, that tour was crazy.
00:23:50
Speaker 1: Yep.
00:23:51
Speaker 3: So I bust, they called us.
00:23:52
Speaker 1: I bust.
00:23:52
Speaker 3: Rikers Island.
00:23:54
Speaker 1: And J-Bust was Fantasy Island. Yep. He had everything on his bus. It was beautiful. Yo, DeMarco.
00:24:00
Speaker 3: My bus was fucking jail, nigga. That's what's crazy.
00:24:02
Speaker 2: We took clue in them peoples, DeMarco, Diggs, all of them. Remember, they came on the bus. Yo, we're talking about DeMarco. Niggas stole my DJ.
00:24:12
Speaker 1: Yo, y'all want to know why Bleak don't perform? I don't have a DJ. I'm back to the, I got a deck machine. I don't, nah. Niggas stole my DJ. 20 years later, now they cousins. Where this shit been at?
00:24:28
Speaker 5: All these kids, like, yo, used to be in the crack house, baseline.
00:24:34
Speaker 1: These niggas used to just say what up. 20 years later, damn it, blood. Yo, niggas used to, yo. Yo, you know me since we really grew up.
00:24:44
Speaker 3: I know.
00:24:45
Speaker 1: We went to, you know, I called him one day to do, I'm like, yo, son, yo, I.
00:24:49
Speaker 3: Need you to do this show. I got this party.
00:24:51
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, bleep. I can't.
00:24:53
Speaker 3: I got to hold my cousin down.
00:24:55
Speaker 1: So, like, who your cousin? That nigga said, you know Ja, my cousin. Ja, your cousin. Like, nigga. Nah, he didn't hit you with that shit, nigga. That's the funny nigga. This nigga said, yo, that's my cousin. You know I got a... That's his cousin. He could've just said, yo, he paying more, bleep. I ain't gonna let y'all ass block me, I'm out. I'm gonna wait until I see you take care of this. That's how you did my nigga, Mel? You left him and told him I had to take care of my cubs.
00:25:29
Speaker 3: Yo, and another thing.
00:25:30
Speaker 1: Southside, nigga.
00:25:31
Speaker 2: All these years, though, notice, why you never had a hype.
00:25:34
Speaker 3: Man at your shows? It's that fucking working out.
00:25:37
Speaker 1: 400 push-ups in the dressing room. Nah, you know, real shit, Bleak, I seen the dog do this. now listen here's the illest shit I used to be the dog's hype man I used to hype man for the dog you know what I'm saying I was you know I was still rapping I had my own shit going on but this was during survival of the illest tours you know I'm.
00:26:05
Speaker 3: Trying to you know get out there moving around so I'm.
00:26:08
Speaker 1: On tour with the dog I'm out there doing on stage doing shit with the dog you know doing my shit so I'm you know I'm starting to get a little she's like Came over to the door and said, no, I ain't mad.
00:26:24
Speaker 3: He clipped me.
00:26:25
Speaker 1: Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Like, nah, I ain't fucking with you. So I'm like, yeah. So now I'm like, yo, I'm like, yo, what's up?
00:26:34
Speaker 3: Why the dog clipped me? Why I can't come out and do the shit no more?
00:26:37
Speaker 1: He said, nah, the dog said it's better for him to do his shit by itself. So... So I....
00:26:48
Speaker 3: You know, I took it for what it was.
00:26:52
Speaker 1: And when it was my time to move, I said to myself, I need the stage for myself like how the dog had the stage for himself. And the whole hard knock. He never had a hype man either. No.
00:27:06
Speaker 3: And let me tell you what I took from it.
00:27:11
Speaker 1: If you could command the stage by yourself without anybody else, you're a star. You're a big star. You're a big star. Because these people are locked in on you. Ain't no dancers. Ain't no motherfucking, no other nigga running around. There's nothing, nigga. It's just you connected to these people. And you gotta carry that, nigga. For 30 minutes, an hour. I'm on stage for an hour and a half.
00:27:40
Speaker 3: Nigga, I don't, there's nobody, my nigga.
00:27:44
Speaker 1: And for me, That connection to the crowd like that is something that, I don't know, man. You can't get that in any other form. You know what I'm saying? That shit is music and music only. And that connection is my connection with my fans strictly. You know what I'm saying? And they know, even though I'm going on this big tour right now, I'm popping out for some tapes. Even the corny ones. Nori think it's corny.
00:28:16
Speaker 2: I'm going to be overhanging everywhere.
00:28:19
Speaker 1: Denmark.
00:28:20
Speaker 3: Listen, Paris and London.
00:28:22
Speaker 1: Are going to be lit. I got more dates. But I'm coming back to the States June 1st. I got on the low right now. I got about 30 dates. I'm coming back home to the States. I start June 1st. So my nigga ain't playing. Rule out their gear to that major chicken. You heard?
00:28:39
Speaker 3: Listen, this is my 25-year anniversary, Blink. I just wanted to go celebrate, have a good time with my fans.
00:28:45
Speaker 1: That's right.
00:28:45
Speaker 3: Make a new album, put it out for my fans, go out on tour for my fans.
00:28:48
Speaker 1: Are you working with in-house producers on this new project?
00:28:52
Speaker 3: I'm working with everybody. I did the joint.
00:28:55
Speaker 2: I see you got a hit maker walking the building.
00:28:59
Speaker 1: Hit on the motherfucking... You know what I'm saying? That's his whole side of the fucking building over there. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, yeah, he came and blessed me with some magic, some of the Hitman, Hitmaker magic. You seen the tweet the other day.
00:29:18
Speaker 2: You like, yo, I got some shit. I was like, yeah, I'm about to see Rue.
00:29:22
Speaker 3: I want to hear this.
00:29:23
Speaker 6: And then now I'm trying to hit you some shit. I definitely got to hear this, Rue. I'm just enjoying fucking making business. I seen you freestyle the other day on the shit. On Sway shit, yeah.
00:29:34
Speaker 1: How it feel?
00:29:34
Speaker 3: It feel good, don't it?
00:29:35
Speaker 1: It feel good when niggas be like, yo, this nigga still got it. Yeah, they gas me up.
00:29:40
Speaker 3: I'm back in the studio.
00:29:45
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying? I just did an interview the other day, you know what I'm saying? I was on Tamron Hall's show and I said, yo, listen, artists that's in our age group and I need to start making music again. You know why? Because hip hop has grown up. This is the 50th anniversary of hip hop. So you got to understand something. People 50 years old and beyond listen to hip-hop. That's a fact. Niggas that's 60 or 70 listen to hip-hop. So that's a very broad audience now that we are able to grasp.
00:30:29
Speaker 3: It ain't just the 18 to 35-year-olds. No more.
00:30:31
Speaker 1: It's not.
00:30:31
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? So hip-hop has to have that growth.
00:30:35
Speaker 2: And I think for a special power era... The fans, our fans all grew up. Like, you know, niggas got two, three kids.
00:30:43
Speaker 1: You know, niggas ain't outside trapping. Think about us.
00:30:46
Speaker 3: We got to talk.
00:30:47
Speaker 1: Think about us. Yeah. Just think about yourself. Nori, me, you. Think about us. What the fuck we got to listen to? Because I don't listen, I can't listen to all of the young shit. I like some of it, I can vibe with some of it. But I can't listen to it all. Yeah, and so when Nas makes an album, it's refreshing for us. When Jay makes an album, it's refreshing for us. You understand? I'm like, yo, well, when Ja Rule makes an album, it should be fucking refreshing for us because I'm not out here trying to be the young nigga. Nigga, I'm old. Nigga, I'm 47, 48.
00:31:19
Speaker 3: I'm proud of that shit.
00:31:20
Speaker 1: That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? That's a fact. It's a point to that.
00:31:29
Speaker 3: Watch all those niggas in this room.
00:31:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:31
Speaker 3: Yo.
00:31:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, nigga, me too, nigga. I'm proud of these 40-year-olds. We might just want some C-21, my nigga. But it's real shit, though. Niggas, hip-hop has changed, niggas, in this way.
00:31:42
Speaker 3: A 45-year-old.
00:31:47
Speaker 1: Nigga, let's just take a 40-year-old nigga. A 40-year-old nigga, 20 years ago, nigga was coming up here in some hard bottoms and a suit, nigga. Because that was what a 40-year-old man was. Looked like him.
00:32:01
Speaker 7: And looked like him representing himself.
00:32:02
Speaker 1: And that was nothing wrong with that. That was just the era. Hip-hop now, 40-year-old niggas look like all of us in the street. But that's a fact, and that's real shit. And so that's what keeps us younger. So the music has to still be getting made. I wasn't even going to bring this up. You grabbed the shorts. Yeah, I got, yo, listen, let me say something, man.
00:32:25
Speaker 7: Your shorts is above the knee. We got to talk to Jerry. We got to talk to Jerry. Jerry, you making these shits a little too cut. I'm sagging right now.
00:32:35
Speaker 1: I'm sagging. It's only one reason that makes that good.
00:32:39
Speaker 2: Listen, when the shorts is above the knee, I say on.
00:32:43
Speaker 3: My man, Tata, shout out my guy T.
00:32:45
Speaker 1: Tata.
00:32:46
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? That's when your money is super. So that made that article we read. Y'all got a hundred M's.
00:32:53
Speaker 1: I'm sure I said that check clear, baby.
00:32:55
Speaker 5: Nah, I'm going to tell you.
00:33:01
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you the true side. This is the true side of a nigga who just got some real money.
00:33:09
Speaker 3: When you see niggas start sitting like this.
00:33:11
Speaker 1: When you see niggas cross their leg like this.
00:33:16
Speaker 3: This nigga got a lot of money. You know, I've seen you, bro. I've seen you.
00:33:20
Speaker 1: I've seen you, Norris. I've seen your leg like this. I've seen your leg like this. My man don't even want to break the weed down. Norris is getting a lot of money right now.
00:33:28
Speaker 3: I know, man.
00:33:29
Speaker 1: He's getting a lot of money, man.
00:33:30
Speaker 3: On that extra shit right now. Spread some love.
00:33:32
Speaker 1: Break bread, nigga. He's like, yo, I might need to hold something. Stay on that hundred. Let's see what he got.
00:33:41
Speaker 3: Him and Gotti over there making moves.
00:33:44
Speaker 1: I'm going to just say my catalog is very, very frugal. Hell yeah, nigga. You got them bombs, nigga. Yo, listen. I think you and Vinny getting 20,000 spins a week on the radio. That shit didn't exist until you dropped the records, nigga. Nigga was getting 100,000 spins a week.
00:34:04
Speaker 3: I'm going to say this.
00:34:06
Speaker 1: I'm laughing, but it's a little bit.
00:34:09
Speaker 3: Def Jam didn't even have a.
00:34:13
Speaker 1: like a rhythmic pop radio department before me. No, this is what I'm saying, bro. I remember. They didn't have a crossover. They didn't have that. They didn't have a taboo crossover. And I came and said, we need a department for this nigga, what he's doing. So I got a little bit true, but for Def Jam, maybe. Yeah, you invented that shit.
00:34:36
Speaker 3: You said her name was Martha.
00:34:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's a fact.
00:34:41
Speaker 2: This nigga in records was putting up numbers and shit was being played every 10 seconds.
00:34:46
Speaker 1: And I appreciate you for giving me my flowers. Yeah, definitely. I'm appreciative of my flowers, man. You know why we gave you my flowers? I was very appreciative. I'm appreciative of my flowers, man. Yeah, man, nah. You know what I'm saying? You were saying trends, man. I would not appreciate my niggas more. I appreciate my niggas for giving me my flowers, man. I remember Irv Gotti tried to get me on the girl shit. He was like, yo, you see Ja, man? You see Ja? Stop bullshit. Believe you over there worrying about bars. Just write the fucking rhymes. Let somebody see the hook. I said, but yeah, I don't got the muscles. I don't got the muscles. I don't know if they want a chubby nigga right now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but Big was talking his shit. Yo, I'm recording now, right? So, I just told my man Cheech, yo, all these.
00:35:36
Speaker 2: Years, I used to look at Ja making these records, and I used to be like, how the fuck is he doing this? But you had the cheat code back there. Because my nigga been married for years. You know what I'm saying? I just wrote a song about it, and it's easy to write that song when you look at your wife and be like, yeah.
00:35:54
Speaker 1: I wrote Put It On Me, by the way. That's what I'm saying. It was hard to write when you got bitches like, man, fuck these bitches. Kick this bitch out.
00:36:01
Speaker 3: You write bitches and shit and.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: Hoes and tricks. That's what it's like. That's your bitch. That's what it's like. That's your bitch. That's what it's like, too. You know what I'm saying? But them big, monstrous records, man, I had you doing shows in Turkey. Egypt, nigga, those records come from, you really have to know what that feeling is. And I used to say to myself, this nigga, how he doing this shit?
00:36:25
Speaker 2: I ain't never put two and two together. This nigga going home looking at his wife like, stand right there. She like, Mona Lisa, baby, I got you.
00:36:33
Speaker 3: What would I be without you? I got you.
00:36:38
Speaker 1: Like you know um good records too come from the pain yeah i'm saying and so you know i was young and you know in a relationship with my wife and.
00:36:59
Speaker 3: You know, we went through our pain era, too.
00:37:02
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. Marriage is not easy, bro, for y'all thinking it is.
00:37:06
Speaker 3: It's a roller coaster. It's a roller coaster. Definitely. Roller coaster of love.
00:37:11
Speaker 1: Yo, get it. Get that on film. That's what you get, nigga. That's what you get. Yo, chill.
00:37:24
Speaker 8: Niggas trying to kill me.
00:37:27
Speaker 1: Who wrote this? Niggas just... And what's this? Straight do say?
00:37:32
Speaker 3: Y'all niggas on something.
00:37:33
Speaker 1: Murder, suicide. Murder, death, kill. And here. Dang, play it. Yo. because they can say rollercoaster and that better shit ends man because one day you high and next day you low because shit you miss a dinner date or you try a new restaurant before wifey go with you it's beef when you get back home it be little shit then you watch the show that's how I watch the show and you watch one episode oh my god it's smoke down now you ain't talking for two days she gotta watch three episodes now without.
00:38:11
Speaker 3: You Marriage.
00:38:15
Speaker 1: Is cool shit, you know?
00:38:16
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, definitely, man.
00:38:18
Speaker 1: Having kids, raising a family, it's cool shit. It's fly shit. Me and my son, you know, we're here hanging out and shit.
00:38:23
Speaker 3: That's what's up, man. You know, he make music now.
00:38:25
Speaker 1: So, you know, I told him, come watch your pops make music. Last time I had you in the studio with me, he was on my shoulders. He was like two years old. No, he don't.
00:38:35
Speaker 2: Hell no.
00:38:36
Speaker 1: He don't, you know what I'm saying? And so... You know, for him to be here, it's just, this shit is just amazing. And that's a blessing, man, to be out here, because, you know, my son just turned 22, so I be traveling around, doing shit with him.
00:38:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're 23, so he's saying shit.
00:38:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, you get to do shit that I never did with my pops. I never, you know, I grew up without a pop, so.
00:38:56
Speaker 1: Me too. So it's experience that shit with your son, I know it hit different. That's what we with my son. My son know. See, that hundred million hit. Yeah, yeah. My son don't. He still got to live by the rules of society. Don't get that job. Nigga, weed is legal. Nigga, weed is legal. Everybody smoke weed. And let me tell you something. He probably doing it on a low-loon fucking freak. Listen, nigga. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, my nigga. If he is, go ahead and smoke a joint with the young man. Open up a new door. A whole new door.
00:39:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, my son different. He don't have his fashion shit. Dave, my son think he Kanye. He about to not be wearing shoes soon.
00:39:39
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. My son different, nigga.
00:39:42
Speaker 3: Like, if you be little bleak, you be like bleak.
00:39:44
Speaker 1: You sure that shit, son?
00:39:46
Speaker 2: Like, I always tell niggas, I tried to keep my son away from the shit that I, you know, that I was into. I think I put him so far into the square life that I make him a rectangle.
00:39:58
Speaker 1: That's all right, though. That's all right, too, though. That's all right, too. Because if Kanye meet my son, I might never see him again.
00:40:06
Speaker 2: Like, dead ass. Like, he on his fashion. No, like, everything is fashion. Like, don't even talk to him if you ain't talking about fashion. My son, I got to talk to him about school. Like, yo, son, what's up? Yeah, you go through New Balenciaga? She ain't had her grades well.
00:40:21
Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah. That's cool, you know what I'm saying? Like, people speak different languages in life. Hell yeah. I love him. That's my boy. That's my firstborn. I just wish he would have been a ball player. You know how you like, yo, little nigga, I tried, I failed. You got it. Why? Why though? But why though? Why?
00:40:43
Speaker 3: One of the richest niggas in the world is the LVMH, nigga. You know what I'm saying?
00:40:47
Speaker 1: Tell me about it. Let him do his fashion shit. You never know.
00:40:50
Speaker 3: He got his shit. He got his shit, man.
00:40:53
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:40:53
Speaker 3: What you saying?
00:40:54
Speaker 1: I know.
00:40:55
Speaker 3: Up in there. You know what I'm saying?
00:40:57
Speaker 1: Yeah. Shit. I work with them guys.
00:40:59
Speaker 3: Ace of Spades.
00:41:00
Speaker 1: I just had a call with them before I came here. You know what I mean?
00:41:04
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about starting a business, right? It starts as this.
00:41:09
Speaker 1: Dreams. Ends up this. Yep. It starts as a dream, man. Start a business to me. Start off as a whole different business and then become this. We can look at examples that's right in front of us. Rock Nation started to fucking rock those music, nigga. Roc Nation does fucking every fucking thing.
00:41:29
Speaker 3: Everything. So this is what I'm saying.
00:41:31
Speaker 1: Amazon started as a book fucking selling book, but now they sell every fucking thing.
00:41:35
Speaker 3: They about to sell some cars on Amazon.
00:41:37
Speaker 1: Yo, chill. Amazon. You know what I'm saying? Like, they done made the world lazy. Niggas order everything now.
00:41:42
Speaker 2: Like, my wife did the whole Christmas shopping on Amazon.
00:41:46
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, you don't go to no stores?
00:41:49
Speaker 1: You don't go through the aisle, like, actually physically pick up a box? No. The worst is... Yeah, I'm going to order.
00:41:55
Speaker 2: The worst, yo, the worst is I'm going to order the patio set on Wayfair.
00:42:00
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, cool, good.
00:42:03
Speaker 2: That shit come like it's for fucking your dog or something.
00:42:06
Speaker 1: That shit be all small. It look bigger in the picture. I bet it do. It look bigger on the showroom floor, too. Let's go touch it, baby. Like, I can't shop online like that.
00:42:18
Speaker 3: I ain't mad at you. I ain't mad at you.
00:42:20
Speaker 1: Word up. That online shopping is murder. Like, what the fuck?
00:42:24
Speaker 3: Shit don't never come the way you want it to.
00:42:26
Speaker 1: No.
00:42:26
Speaker 3: But that's the way of the world, man. People want convenience.
00:42:33
Speaker 2: What's next for The Rule, man? What's next for Icon? What's next for The Rule? I know you got the album coming out. What's next for Icon, man? Next two, three years, man. What we doing?
00:42:46
Speaker 1: You know, I'm entering some cool partnerships, you know, strategic partnerships, you know, with people and companies like that. the next level. This is my third year with Icon now. I've lost the money building it and now a lot of great things are happening going forward for me to move the company forward. It's a network. You can go on Apple TV and get it for an announcement. I'm now starting to acquire a lot of content for the for the network, but that's not the route I want to kind of go. I don't want to be Netflix. I want to, I want to, you know, really set my model with original content. So, you know, that, that is what I'm doing. Like my vibes concert series, I'm about to do laughing it up, which is, it's just, it's like deaf comedy. Yeah. My old two deaf comedy jam. Got to have Russ come out and do just, just one night, just over the night.
00:43:55
Speaker 3: You know, God bless.
00:43:57
Speaker 1: Good night.
00:43:57
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta come out and do that for me. Sure.
00:44:01
Speaker 2: The African homie that be blasting on everybody's show.
00:44:05
Speaker 1: What's my bad name? The African kid. Michael Brosnan? No, not him, man.
00:44:11
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the dude be talking, dropping knowledge, dropping real knowledge.
00:44:15
Speaker 1: Oh, Dr. Uma? Yeah, Dr. Uma. Yeah, you heard what he said. That's what happens when you dip in that pool, baby. You know what I'm saying? Yo, listen.
00:44:23
Speaker 3: Don't, you can't quote Dr.
00:44:24
Speaker 1: Uma. No, no, no. This is for all the kids out there watching. You know what I'm saying? The one thing they can't stop you or take away from you is knowledge. That's right. So whatever I went through, for me, you know, I was always on my learning shit. You know, you use this opportunity to grow and learn. in prison for two years. I've read, I've read a bunch of books.
00:44:59
Speaker 2: I forgot my G did a two year stretch on Rikers Island for that slammer.
00:45:04
Speaker 3: Nah, I didn't do it on Island for Rikers.
00:45:06
Speaker 1: They got four with that slammer jam. I forgot about that. How, how, Let me tell you, you know this nigga's your man. This nigga's stupid, man. This nigga got caught with that slammer jam. Yo, I forgot, my man. You ain't look away, man. Yeah, y'all both was like, yeah. That's crazy, man.
00:45:32
Speaker 3: But these niggas took me on a jail tour, Bleak. I swear to God.
00:45:35
Speaker 1: Niggas took me on a jail tour.
00:45:37
Speaker 3: Nigga, I seen every fucking jail. Nigga, these niggas had me anywhere.
00:45:41
Speaker 1: That's crazy, man.
00:45:43
Speaker 3: But through that process, learn, learn, learn from.
00:45:49
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:45:51
Speaker 3: I became a reader while I was in prison.
00:45:53
Speaker 1: You know, I read some books and shit before I went to prison, but when I went to prison, I learned and understood the importance of reading. I'm not a reader. I ain't no cat. I mean, you should.
00:46:10
Speaker 2: I watch your movies. I'm bad at the read. I read contracts, read shit that's important. You ain't got to read.
00:46:19
Speaker 3: You ain't got to read. It's just like.
00:46:21
Speaker 1: They got fucking audio books.
00:46:23
Speaker 3: No, I know.
00:46:24
Speaker 1: Podcasts.
00:46:25
Speaker 3: You can listen to shit that you're interested in.
00:46:27
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get on that. But knowledge is what I'm saying is power. All the time, bro. The more you know, the more you grow. That's a fact. The knowledge is power.
00:46:35
Speaker 3: I mean, like.
00:46:36
Speaker 2: And me, I learned, me, I taught myself, I say more from just reading. I like to put boots on the ground, like me, like to learn about my history. Most people read about black history on the internet. I went to Africa, stayed for a month. You know what I'm saying? Like to really learn about our culture. So I do shit a little bit different, like, but books, the.
00:46:56
Speaker 1: Words don't, they don't move to me. It's just like, I'm wasting time to me.
00:47:00
Speaker 3: It makes it feel like I'm, what am I doing?
00:47:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:47:04
Speaker 3: That ain't for everybody.
00:47:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, bud? Don't get it twisted. What is for everybody is what's inside. Don't get it twisted, though. Nigga can read, you heard?
00:47:13
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I don't take it. I ain't on this four minutes for a drop, you heard? That's what I'm saying, man. I'm going to send you some good books. Yeah. I am.
00:47:26
Speaker 3: I'm going to send you some good books.
00:47:27
Speaker 2: Like, I used to read back in the days, like, you know, Hove put me on the Donald Goins books.
00:47:31
Speaker 1: Back in the day, I read a lot of shit like that. Like, shit that interests me.
00:47:35
Speaker 3: Like, you know what I mean? I read the real freeway Ricky Ross book.
00:47:38
Speaker 1: I even got it signed. You know what I mean? Like I said, shit that interests me. Those are cool books to read. Not just going to sit there and be like, yo, there's a book. Let me read it. Those are stories.
00:47:47
Speaker 3: I'm talking about knowledge books. Yeah, that's what you're going to learn from.
00:47:52
Speaker 1: Learn.
00:47:52
Speaker 2: 48 Laws of Power. You know what I mean? I've read 48 Laws of Power and shit like that.
00:47:59
Speaker 3: Everybody read that shit.
00:48:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody, right? Maybe on the Sun Tzu shit. It's a good book to read, Sun Tzu. You know, Heart of War is good to read.
00:48:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?
00:48:08
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
00:48:08
Speaker 2: I did woo dabble, but I'm not going to be like, yeah, I'm going to join the book club.
00:48:13
Speaker 1: Fuck out of here. You're wrong with reading. Don't preach the message to the kids. Even my daughter will be like, my dad capped it. You got to let the kids fucking understand that.
00:48:26
Speaker 3: That's what it is.
00:48:27
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. And knowledge. However you get it. You know, like I said, you don't got to read. The more you know, the more you grow. However you receive the knowledge. Learn from people.
00:48:38
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? You can learn each one, teach one.
00:48:39
Speaker 1: That's right. Whatever it is. I learned from you. Learn, you know what I'm saying? I remember, you don't even know I learned this from you. I was on tour with this nigga one day and this nigga got a check over the envelope.
00:48:53
Speaker 2: They're like, yo, what's that from? He's like, yo, this is from BMI, my publisher check. Like, publisher check?
00:48:58
Speaker 1: What's that? He's like, you don't get that? Like, nah, fam. He's like, yo, you never signed up to ASCAP? Nah, he was like, nah, what's that?
00:49:05
Speaker 3: They get like, yo, I'ma put you on.
00:49:07
Speaker 1: Tell your lawyer, sign you up, man. He said, every song that get played on the radio, video, all that, you get paid.
00:49:14
Speaker 3: I'm like, you seriously?
00:49:16
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, every three months. So, you definitely put me on to that.
00:49:21
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, you learn from everybody you're around. And I took knowledge and a piece from everybody. Like, Earth Goddy was a major, major.
00:49:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a sponge, Bleep. Niggas don't realize, you know, our people watch this shit. I watch and analyze everybody, you know what I'm saying, in the room at some point.
00:49:38
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
00:49:39
Speaker 1: I do that.
00:49:39
Speaker 3: That's just how I move.
00:49:41
Speaker 2: You definitely sit back and analyze. Because there's a lot to learn from you. And you don't learn from everybody. You ain't one of those dudes who be like, yo, new faces in the room, we bugging out. You would be like, hold on, let's check the scene out. Because like I said, we've been on many, many missions on tour, man. That night with X-Men was one of the illest nights on tour, nigga.
00:50:03
Speaker 1: With the rental car. When he took Kyle's car, he was in the rental.
00:50:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. X used to do so much crazy shit. God bless the day, man.
00:50:15
Speaker 1: I used to do a lot of fucking crazy shit, man.
00:50:19
Speaker 3: But it was fun back then. Definitely.
00:50:21
Speaker 1: Remember, we used to have them dice games on tour.
00:50:24
Speaker 8: Niggas was losing. Remember we used to kidnap each other and shit? We used to kidnap each other on the tour. From different crews. From different crews. Like, we'd go get niggas, take a nigga.
00:50:35
Speaker 1: From Rockefeller, and had a nigga, and now y'all got to come get him.
00:50:41
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Yo, we used to be wild lit. They don't have no idea.
00:50:46
Speaker 1: Niggas don't have that camaraderie in hip-hop like that today.
00:50:51
Speaker 3: At least I don't know maybe they.
00:50:53
Speaker 1: Do I don't know nah the southern the southern artists rock the niggas be on tour together they be doing Christmases the niggas be chilling but I know I went on a tour recently and yo it was like crickets man I was in the back just floating around you know it wasn't my tour nobody wasn't rocking yeah everybody's in they room doing they one two it wasn't like it wasn't it didn't have that vibe you know.
00:51:14
Speaker 2: Yeah but nah a lot of southern artists they rock New York I feel like we especially that borough shit Like, it was on that, you from here, we from here, we stick with our own crew. Like, niggas didn't really rock with everybody outside like that.
00:51:29
Speaker 3: Like, nigga, I even had in my.
00:51:31
Speaker 1: Body, nigga, rock outside of Rock is Rude. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't rock with everybody. You and Norris, all my person. We was all like that.
00:51:39
Speaker 3: We was very self-contained and shit, all of us.
00:51:41
Speaker 2: I can say, like, a hip-hop outside of the Rockefeller crew, like, what artists I was the closest to would be you and Nori.
00:51:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nori, like, opening up a fuckload outside of you and, you know, Crack. Yeah.
00:51:57
Speaker 3: Not too many.
00:51:58
Speaker 1: I just got cool with Fat Joe and Nori when he gave me the call. You know what I mean?
00:52:02
Speaker 3: I'm on a turntable. He's like, Glee, what you doing?
00:52:05
Speaker 1: I'm driving. Like, yo, I'm going to tell you something. Fat Joe got the record. He want to see if Hov can get on. What? He's like, I'm like, you serious? He's like, yo, I call him on three way. Spoke the fat joke. Like, and then the rest is history.
00:52:21
Speaker 3: Here we are. Joe, cool as shit, man.
00:52:23
Speaker 1: Word.
00:52:24
Speaker 2: Like, cool as shit, man. Yo, they said Joe was riffing. He said, you ain't clear what's love for him.
00:52:30
Speaker 1: He said, he ain't going to see you for that. He said, I didn't clear what's love. Yeah. I thought that shit went triple platinum, didn't it?
00:52:37
Speaker 3: What's love?
00:52:39
Speaker 1: Right? I don't know. That's the joint with him and Ashanti. I thought it went triple, but he said you ain't clear, then it's a little bit of schmo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So... I'm just... I'm just a messenger. Don't kill the messenger.
00:52:53
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
00:52:54
Speaker 1: I told you we friends now. You know what I'm saying?
00:52:57
Speaker 3: That's... That was a great record for crack. Hell yeah.
00:53:00
Speaker 1: Nigga, that shit was super smoker.
00:53:03
Speaker 3: Me too.
00:53:03
Speaker 1: Super smoker. I'm not kind of mad they didn't give that to me. You feel me? I ain't never have a Ja Rule, Shanti feature. Yo, let me tell you, it be weird with the records and shit, man. They really weird, man. Like, sometimes certain records work and then you do other records and it don't. Oh, you think this record is going to work? It doesn't. Or, you know, you never didn't think this record was going to work.
00:53:25
Speaker 2: Talk about what you said about Leo earlier, how he didn't believe in certain things. I remember when my second album, The Understander, was coming out and we tried to go with the record Everything's.
00:53:36
Speaker 3: Ago with Hoag.
00:53:37
Speaker 1: And it ain't go, it ain't work.
00:53:39
Speaker 3: And Leo was like.
00:53:40
Speaker 1: Blake, we can't push it back no more. We have to drop the project. So I'm like, all right, I've been telling y'all for months, let's use.
00:53:47
Speaker 3: Around here as the single.
00:53:48
Speaker 1: And he was like, you sure? It's not New York. I don't think New York is going to like it. I'm like, trust me.
00:53:55
Speaker 2: We dropped that single, the album with Gold Leo. It's like, we popping champagne.
00:53:59
Speaker 1: You were right. So you gotta trust yourself.
00:54:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fact, man. You gotta believe in yourself, man. So I ain't gonna hold you. It's a blessing always seeing you, my brother. You know I love you like a brother. You probably don't remember this, man.
00:54:15
Speaker 1: How we first linked up, man. What's your memory on how we first linked up? I remember the whole thing.
00:54:24
Speaker 5: Ha ha ha!
00:54:25
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha!
00:54:34
Speaker 5: Yo, listen.
00:54:38
Speaker 1: Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Yo, chill.
00:54:48
Speaker 5: Yo, chill.
00:54:49
Speaker 1: Yo, chill. Yo, chill. Hove was... Earth had to produce the record. I think he did.
00:54:59
Speaker 2: He had to produce the record because he was in the video with them. And they was all on the golf carts at the mansion. Y'all was wildin'. It was for the remix of Can't Knock the Hustle.
00:55:09
Speaker 1: With Mary J. Day, I did it to the first Paradise Beat. You sure? You sure? Bro.
00:55:15
Speaker 3: It wasn't at the.
00:55:16
Speaker 1: Remember when Jay did the shit with him and Big? It wasn't at that video shoot? Nah, man. No, at that Mansion for Fools Paradise remix, bro. I'm telling you.
00:55:29
Speaker 2: And then the next time we linked up was going to Cancun for my video shoot with Hovda.
00:55:34
Speaker 1: It's all right, shit.
00:55:35
Speaker 3: When you got locked up. That, I remember.
00:55:38
Speaker 1: That was, that was fucked up. But then, you remember, you used to come to Marcy, fuck with me. I used to pull up in Queens, fuck with you. We linked up. We used to move around together. Word.
00:55:49
Speaker 3: Word.
00:55:49
Speaker 1: But yeah, Cancun. Yo, Cancun trip was a nightmare, man.
00:55:56
Speaker 2: My man got locked up. I got sick. Rest in peace. Almost had a fight with Black Rob. Yo, film me out. Yo, shit was crazy. Yo, we get the Cancun. Yo, I almost had a fight with Rob, yo. Break it down.
00:56:12
Speaker 1: We get to Cancun, right? We get to Cancun. My nigga Rob, yo, rest in peace. All of us. Irv, you, Jay, all of us. It was a bunch of old crew. Then I ain't going to mention their name now because it's irrelevant. But we in Cancun. Emil was with us, Bean, everybody.
00:56:28
Speaker 2: And I remember we seen, you know how they always have in the Spanish countries, the policia.
00:56:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's like called 911. And Emil, my bad, man. I got to say, it's the world now. It's weird. Yeah. She was like, yo, oh, I ain't know they had 9-1-1 out here, too. And Hova's like, what? So if something happened to you, what you was going down? 2-1-2, 9-1-1? Fingers was out there dying like, yo, chill. So then that happened. I forgot why you got locked up with your son fucking with the girls, too.
00:57:05
Speaker 3: They did something. It was the funniest shit.
00:57:08
Speaker 1: Yo! Can we ride?
00:57:10
Speaker 3: You know how the strip be mad packed?
00:57:12
Speaker 1: Yes. We was in like this big ass bus going down the strip. So one of the girls had to use the bathroom. We decide, all right, we'll get out off the bus, walk along and, you know, try to use, let one of the girls use the bathroom. By the time the bus catch up, we, you know, we get back to the bus. So we get off the bus. Walk along, they ain't find nowhere to pee. They get the bright idea. I'll just pee right here, just kind of cover me. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to think which one it was. I don't remember which one it was. Remember, it was three of them. It was a major figure. It was all three of them. Yeah, it was three girls. I don't know how it just ended up being them. So now, so now, so boom. We trying to, we trying to block, we trying to block, you know what I'm saying, the shit that happened. And a nigga come out of nowhere and he's like trying to get a peek at the shit, you know what I'm saying?
00:58:07
Speaker 3: So one of the girls like pushed the nigga back.
00:58:08
Speaker 1: The nigga's like, you know, trying to like, so I just catch the nigga. We jump in the nigga, you know what I'm saying? So this is the funniest shit. So now we run over down the block. It's the funniest shit. We run over down the block. We, you know, laughing, celebrating our victory over this thing. We just fucked up laughing. It was the real shit. So one of the girls hit, like, the car. It was coming out of, like, a driveway. She hit the car, coming out of the back or something. She hit the car, and, like, three Mexican niggas got out of the car. These niggas was livin', and they was, the girls was on fire. But now the niggas wanna fight me, you know what I'm sayin'? So now, I'm like, all right, so boom, I pick up a little rock and some shit, you know what I'm sayin'? And I'm goin' back to go up to the niggas, and these niggas is like surroundin' me and shit, so while they surroundin' me, the police come out the car. These niggas start talkin' to the police in Spanish, saying, ba-da-ba-dee-ba-dee, him, him, him.
00:59:09
Speaker 3: Yep, you going down.
00:59:10
Speaker 1: Next thing I know, the police is grabbing me, fuck y'all, nigga, and throwing me in the fucking car, in the police car.
00:59:16
Speaker 3: And this shit was like a VW Bug, nigga.
00:59:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, they ain't got the smallest car. Niggas, it was three other niggas in the back, nigga, they put me in the back with, nigga.
00:59:24
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, it ain't no cuffs to put me in, nigga.
00:59:27
Speaker 1: These other two niggas had.
00:59:29
Speaker 3: Cuffs, I was the only nigga in the back with cuffs.
00:59:30
Speaker 1: I get to the precinct.
00:59:33
Speaker 3: So the precinct, it was like.
00:59:36
Speaker 3: It was weird.
00:59:37
Speaker 1: The satellite put me in this, like, bunch of niggas and.
00:59:40
Speaker 3: Like, five, six niggas in there. And there's no, like, bars or nothing.
00:59:46
Speaker 1: There's no.
00:59:47
Speaker 3: It's just, like, a holding area. No bars.
00:59:50
Speaker 1: And there's two niggas, two officers standing there with, like, guns. And so that's how you don't come out.
00:59:57
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
00:59:58
Speaker 1: So now I'm in there, and I'm trying to, like, tell a nigga. I'm like, yo, you know, I'm a rapper.
01:00:04
Speaker 3: You know, you know.
01:00:06
Speaker 1: niggas ain't speaking no English. So I'm trying to get them to get a nigga to speak English. I start screaming USD, USD. The nigga went, he said, wait, he said, USD? Wait, y'all a nigga? That no English, nigga. This nigga came, I said, yo, listen, man, I'm a rapper.
01:00:23
Speaker 3: I'm here to do a video shoot, you know what I'm saying, with Jay-Z.
01:00:26
Speaker 1: They're like, Jay-Z?
01:00:27
Speaker 3: You know Jay-Z?
01:00:28
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. They ain't know Jay-Z, but they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:00:32
Speaker 3: He was just getting on there. Yeah, so I said, look.
01:00:34
Speaker 1: I said, look. I said, we got USD. I said, I can have them. I said, can I have them bring money to you? I said, how much to give me out? I think it was like a $ 1, 000. You know what I'm saying? He sent somebody. He brought it and he got me a bottle of that shit.
01:00:47
Speaker 3: That shit was funny as hell, though.
01:00:49
Speaker 2: Now, my night with Black Rob, God bless his soul, bro, we was in Senior Frog partying after the video shoot.
01:00:57
Speaker 3: That was the only club open out there.
01:00:59
Speaker 1: Senior Frog.
01:00:59
Speaker 2: In fucking Cancun. We in there getting lit. Now, you know, all day, they like, don't drink the water. And nobody told me, Blake, don't get ice cubes in your drink.
01:01:08
Speaker 1: Jeez.
01:01:09
Speaker 2: I get the ice cubes in my drink. Now, I'm out there little half-dad.
01:01:12
Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
01:01:13
Speaker 1: I'm the nigga little half-dad put his dick on the hat. Yeah. Yo, so we out there now, right? I'm telling Hov. I'm like, he wanted to shoot another scene for the video. And I'm like, Hov, I'm freezing right now.
01:01:26
Speaker 2: Like, it feel like, nigga, like I'm in a snowstorm and I'm in fucking Cancun. Like something ain't right. I got to go to my room. I can't do this shit. So that's why if you look at It's Alright, the third verse, his verse, I'm nowhere to be found because I go back to my room. So now I'm going to the room. My key don't work. I got to come back downstairs, get a key. Now, that's a nigga arguing. Now, I'm standing there dying, feeling like I'm going to throw up. And it's a nigga arguing about his credit card not.
01:01:55
Speaker 1: Working with the incidentals.
01:01:56
Speaker 3: Remember when we was young? That was a.
01:01:58
Speaker 2: Big thing with incidentals. Niggas ain't have that debit card. They like $ 100.
01:02:04
Speaker 3: $ 100.
01:02:05
Speaker 2: No checking. So, you know, I didn't know who homie was. So I'm standing there and I'm like, yo, fam, you bullshit. Look the fuck out, man. I got to get this key.
01:02:13
Speaker 1: Get out of here.
01:02:14
Speaker 2: And it comes to be Black Raw. So he like, what? What you talking about? And I'm like, yo, whatever, fam. Niggas want scrap, whatever. But I got to get this key. Get the fuck out the way, fam.
01:02:22
Speaker 1: Look out. Carlene was there. Carlene like, no, bleep, will you do it? That's Giddy New Artist. That's Black Rob.
01:02:29
Speaker 3: He's from Harlem.
01:02:30
Speaker 1: We family. And ever since that day, me and bro was like this, but that time that fucking Black Rob check it in to a fucking hotel, bro. He was a funny nigga, yo. Yo, he was with the smoke. He wasn't backing down. He wasn't on no sucker shit. He was definitely with the functions. Carlene seen it and was like, Chill. Y'all wildin'. But yeah, I almost died in Cancun, bro. My first time going. Straight up. Drinking them motherfuckin' drinks. I used to love Cancun. Yo, crazy.
01:02:59
Speaker 3: I got in trouble when I got back with wifey and shit.
01:03:01
Speaker 1: We had video talk. So that's why.
01:03:08
Speaker 2: Yo, Cancun was, we was, we was on some shit. I couldn't even finish the first half of it.
01:03:13
Speaker 1: My one little scene that you could barely see me in the motherfucking shit.
01:03:16
Speaker 3: I had to shout out the chick sitting between ways.
01:03:18
Speaker 1: Shit. Yo, yo, yo, yeah, you definitely got some hope. Yo, those was the days, man. Fucking Cancun, boy.
01:03:32
Speaker 2: Damn, but yeah, that video shoot, I know niggas definitely, even me, ho, why that video never.
01:03:37
Speaker 1: Came out, baby? We need that.
01:03:39
Speaker 2: Remix the, what was it? Remix the Can't Knock the Hustle.
01:03:43
Speaker 1: We need that.
01:03:44
Speaker 3: I was in there. First cameo. Niggas didn't see I was outside. You know what I'm saying?
01:03:48
Speaker 1: It's outside.
01:03:49
Speaker 3: It's little niggas, man.
01:03:50
Speaker 1: They need to see that. It's footage, man. I wish they had a bunch of footage of us. See, this camera shit wasn't around. They had a bunch of footage of us. Hard knock. What was the girl's name who was filming us? E. Easy. Easy. Easy with the camera. We need to find her.
01:04:12
Speaker 3: Easy.
01:04:13
Speaker 1: If you're watching this, reach out.
01:04:15
Speaker 3: To a nigga.
01:04:16
Speaker 1: I need that for my doc, man. I need some of that footage for my doc. She got all the footage. All the footage. Where the fuck was Easy from? I don't know.
01:04:24
Speaker 3: I don't fucking have a clue.
01:04:26
Speaker 2: But I know that white lady seen some black guys going crazy.
01:04:30
Speaker 1: I know she left that tour like these fucking niggas is insane. Straight up. I'm going to tell you something I always talk about, Joe. The Hard Knock Life tour was very, very fucking important. Because it was the first... all hip-hop tour since the Fresh Fest. See, I was young. I wasn't even thinking about that. Nigga, the Fresh Fest was 20 years prior to that. Hard Knock Life tour was the first all hip-hop tour since the fucking Fresh Fest. And you remember Jay made the speech? He was like, yo, listen, this is important, and we all go out, no incidents and shit. The press conference, I wasn't there. Oh, man, yo. I wasn't there with y'all.
01:05:19
Speaker 3: I wasn't lit enough.
01:05:20
Speaker 1: Hell yeah. I wasn't lit either, nigga. Let me tell you something. I was sneaking in the rooms, nigga. I wasn't going to be left on the fucking side. Your word, I wasn't lit enough for the press conference. See, this is the difference. Niggas didn't have to invite me, nigga. I was cold, nigga. Oh, there's a press conference today? I didn't know we had a press conference today. I'm there, nigga. I ain't got nothing to do with it, but I'm there, nigga. So let me tell you. So he made a speech. He made a speech about... how important the tour is and, you know, to hip-hop, basically. Like, if we don't, if we get in fights and get in all kinds of crazy shit on this tour, they'll never fucking bond or ensure another hip-hop tour again.
01:06:08
Speaker 3: And now look. And we did it. And remember we celebrated that night. The last event?
01:06:13
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:06:13
Speaker 3: That's when we was all celebrating. We was celebrating the fact.
01:06:17
Speaker 1: It was over, but the fact that we accomplished that with no incidents and nothing. And now you see what niggas is able to do with the touring game. The touring game is crazy right now. Insane now, bro. And so, yeah, we.
01:06:33
Speaker 3: Was all part of something very big with that, man.
01:06:36
Speaker 1: That fucking tour life, nigga, they have no clue, Ru, man. The fun we had.
01:06:41
Speaker 3: I learned so much, man.
01:06:42
Speaker 1: Like, I went on tour smoking the shit Biggie was rhyming about.
01:06:46
Speaker 3: You pick seeds out your weed.
01:06:47
Speaker 1: Remember? Remember, I bought like three pounds of weed on tour under the bus.
01:06:51
Speaker 3: We was smoking.
01:06:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, bitch.
01:06:53
Speaker 3: It wasn't until I got to L.A.
01:06:55
Speaker 1: You....
01:06:57
Speaker 2: The first nigga who gave me gas was Method Man.
01:07:00
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:07:01
Speaker 2: He walked into the dressing room and was like, yo, what you smoking on, youngin'? And I showed him, that nigga's like, you smoking on this? You buggin'. He was like, yo, my man here, One Stop, and you was like, One Stop here?
01:07:11
Speaker 1: Tell him, put it up. That's my dude.
01:07:13
Speaker 2: And that's when we first met One Stop, and he sold us the Sour Diesel.
01:07:18
Speaker 1: Man, we wanted to rob One Stop at first. Yo, chill. Yo!
01:07:23
Speaker 3: No, that was the shit. That was the whole.
01:07:25
Speaker 1: Yo, what's that? Word, because yo, I told him once that was on the top. I said, nigga, who's going to rob your fucking ass, nigga? He came in with his little dogs and shit, his flip flops on. Yeah, and yo, and so yo, let me tell you how this went down. Yo. So, Kev was giving red mess Oh, I forgot who he was giving these niggas money, budgets to go get weed from this nigga. So I caught on to this shit that was going on. So I said, hold up. I said, where my motherfucking money at, Cam? Where my money at? Cam said, yo, this is only for, you know, the audience. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I ain't got no weed budget. So I told Cam right there, I said, all right, I said, good. I said, well, we're going to rob that nigga then. You know what I'm saying? You go and you get a little something for you and you can please Listen that's your home in them they'll know how foul they are with the monogram now. Oh I used to get looked at like the major crackhead on tour lighting them sticks up. Remember, they used to look at us, Ty Ty, everybody looking at us like, y'all bugging. I couldn't even, when I was a young nigga, they used to even tell me, Blink, you can't smoke that after the show.
01:08:47
Speaker 3: I used to be like, yo, they sunning me.
01:08:50
Speaker 1: Wait till I get older.
01:08:52
Speaker 2: Y'all ain't just ain't going to be telling me none of that no more. But then it was like, no blunts after the show. And they used to have B-Hot, Ty Ty on me like this.
01:09:00
Speaker 1: Gonna fuck you up. I'm telling you, this is why they didn't want you to do the video. They didn't want you to hang with me. They was like, yo, this nigga rude as fuck. This nigga rude and don't listen. Yo, they was talking shit. definitely and then now they all lighting up sticks everywhere monogram happy yeah oh gee oh gee huh take oh gee like what when this happened you gotta love it let me even lighten up i don't know i'm gonna tell you when that happened we were saying yo i don't know if it was the first time or whatever but i this is the first time i seen jay smoke we was in jamaica Oh, yeah. Overseas, he used to like to stick. What was that? Hot Night Jamaica. That's where we was at.
01:09:47
Speaker 3: We was at Hot Night Jamaica.
01:09:49
Speaker 1: That's why I'm here. And fucking.
01:09:51
Speaker 3: We go.
01:09:52
Speaker 1: Me and Angie, as a matter of fact, me and Angie Martinez, me and Angie Martinez go out, like, into the bush To.
01:09:59
Speaker 3: The stick somewhere, nigga.
01:10:00
Speaker 1: What? That's what the nigga said. Go out to the stick, to the bush. And you can find niggas getting weed. That's when we was staying at the Trelani Beach Resort. Yeah.
01:10:07
Speaker 3: I remember that.
01:10:08
Speaker 1: Nigga, we went, and this nigga gave us an ill stick of weed, like some ill, like honey. It was like, what do you call it? Back in the days, it was called like some gold or some shit, man. I forget what it was. Panamanian gold, maybe? I could poke a gold. That's what it was. That's what it was. Yo, nigga. Yo, nigga, I'm telling you, nigga. Yo, we came and brought that shit back. Yo, everybody smoked. Earth, too. Earth didn't smoke. And I told her, I said, yo, if I go platinum, nigga, you got to smoke some weed with me. You know what I'm saying? He was like, bet.
01:10:44
Speaker 3: I was like, what the.
01:10:45
Speaker 1: Fuck you saying? I ain't going to go platinum, nigga. He was like, I know you ain't want to smoke. You know what I'm saying? He's like, no, no, no. I'm just saying.
01:10:51
Speaker 3: When we do, I'll smoke.
01:10:52
Speaker 1: I said, okay. Nigga, we was on the fucking scene. Nigga, I rolled that shit up and put it right in his hands. Nigga was like, yeah, nigga. I'm platinum, nigga. Smoke. I remember when Ben James smoked, none of them. Man, all the OGs. They just switched the game on us and then bought the game.
01:11:06
Speaker 3: Monogram, huh? Monogram.
01:11:10
Speaker 1: OG, wake up.
01:11:10
Speaker 3: Nigga, smoking is.
01:11:12
Speaker 1: It's legal. Like, what the fuck?
01:11:14
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
01:11:16
Speaker 1: It's good. It's all right. No, definitely. But we used to get fined.
01:11:20
Speaker 3: No, I never.
01:11:21
Speaker 1: Yo. Just try some mushrooms, man. Yo, I remember when I seen you.
01:11:26
Speaker 3: Yo, listen.
01:11:27
Speaker 1: Hold on.
01:11:28
Speaker 4: Yo, you a funny nigga, man. Yo, I remember we was out back in the day. I don't know what city we was in. But this is when Ludacris had the snake burn.
01:11:40
Speaker 2: And he was there. Nelly just came out. He was down, down, baby. Super tremendous platinum. And all three of y'all was in the hotel and I come through.
01:11:49
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, Rue, what's up? You like, ain't shit, man. Yo, they got this new shit, bleep. And I'm like, what?
01:11:55
Speaker 3: He's like, look.
01:11:57
Speaker 1: Pills, man. This fucking shit turned the party up, my nigga. This shit get everything going crazy. I'm like, what? He's like, trust me, my nigga. I'm looking at this nigga and he's like, party the party with them now. I'll be back. I'm like, Yo, this nigga rude next level down, nigga.
01:12:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:12:18
Speaker 1: I never fucked with nothing I can't control. That was always my thing. Nah, yo. Mushroom, mushroom. I promise you. That man wants his feet, bro. Ratman, he lost his feet. You don't remember on Hard Knock Life Talk? I might say he lost his feet. It's with him. On Hard Knock Life Talk, they strapped him up. They don't say he took the shrooms. They say he took too much. So I'm in there like, yo, what'd he take? They like, yo, mushrooms. He run around talking about, I can't find my feet. Yo, he take the L shit. In my mind, oh, I ain't never taking that. I need these, baby. I can't lose those. I'm going to take the L shit in the world, nigga. I'm hanging out with Ray in L.A. Just recently, we all flew out there and shit. I'm fucking hanging out with Red and they're like, Red don't smoke weed, don't drink, don't do nothing. No more? I said, yo, you ain't even Red, man, no more. Yo, shit. I said, Red, how you don't smoke? So yeah, it's Red. We get off. Yeah, yeah. You be on this shit.
01:13:17
Speaker 3: We get off the bus, they go, right.
01:13:19
Speaker 1: I said, yo, bro, get one of the joints we had.
01:13:22
Speaker 7: Okay.
01:13:24
Speaker 1: So he smoked the shit outside the hotel. Nigga Red, he gave you some high as a cat. I don't know if Red want niggas to know he's smoking. He smoked a little bit at the joint. Yeah, yeah, you can't get away from it, man. No, but yo, Red don't smoke no more. Red don't drink and wash. You know, that's a master. See, this is the growth of a nigga. But so what he do, he switched his... He had a camera game now. He do his camera shit. He was shooting a video on the plane, right? You know?
01:13:52
Speaker 3: He do his camera shit. But no, he jump out of planes, nigga. That's his shit. This nigga jump out of planes, nigga.
01:13:57
Speaker 1: You did that shit before I remember acting? Yeah. And I'm like, yo, I remember hitting you. But no, but Brad is certified. Like, Red can jump by himself. Red can jump, like, just jump out of planes.
01:14:08
Speaker 3: I never jump with Red, man.
01:14:09
Speaker 1: I won't jump with nobody.
01:14:12
Speaker 2: It's me I ain't jumping out no motherfucking plane come on I don't have the complexion for that we gonna do.
01:14:19
Speaker 1: Some mushrooms and then we gonna jump out where you want me to go we gonna do it in Dubai where you want me to land at if I jump out the plane on a mushroom listen I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you how you gonna do it it's gonna be me him and the wives Yo. And that's when I was, that's when I was fucking. In Dubai, you're going to need a mushroom.
01:14:41
Speaker 3: Because you can't smoke, you can't.
01:14:42
Speaker 1: Do nothing, man.
01:14:43
Speaker 3: They may not have no mushrooms in Dubai.
01:14:45
Speaker 1: All right. Off camera, I got the flop. I don't want to get them hung.
01:14:50
Speaker 3: You know they hang niggas.
01:14:51
Speaker 1: My nigga.
01:14:52
Speaker 3: Yo, listen.
01:14:53
Speaker 1: Nigga. Skydive Dubai.
01:14:56
Speaker 3: We need to go to Thailand, bro.
01:14:57
Speaker 1: It's right there.
01:14:58
Speaker 3: Same shit. You know they... You Thailand?
01:15:00
Speaker 1: You know they.
01:15:01
Speaker 3: I've been to Thailand.
01:15:03
Speaker 1: You know they... No, listen. But they section every drug in the world in Thailand. You know that, right?
01:15:09
Speaker 3: You can go buy four grams.
01:15:10
Speaker 1: Bangkok. It's wild out there, nigga. You can go buy four grams, coke. Nigga, it's wild out there, nigga.
01:15:15
Speaker 3: Trust what I'm saying.
01:15:16
Speaker 1: It's wild out there. I'm just saying, nigga. Listen. I got some peoples out there. Bro, we need to go to Phuket. Come on. Yeah, we all taking the wilds. Norwich, Derry, we go.
01:15:30
Speaker 3: All of us. I want y'all to look up two hotels.
01:15:33
Speaker 1: Everybody ain't here to look up these two hotels in Phuket. One called Stetson and one called Sri Panwar.
01:15:43
Speaker 3: My niggas own these. What, the club? The hotels.
01:15:47
Speaker 1: Oh.
01:15:48
Speaker 3: Sixth Sense is a private island hotel. I think I've been to the other one.
01:15:51
Speaker 1: What's it called? Three Pair Walk?
01:15:52
Speaker 3: Three Pair Walk.
01:15:52
Speaker 1: My homie own it.
01:15:54
Speaker 2: And the Sixth Sense. So when y'all want to go, just let me know. I'll make sure niggas know on that arm muscle.
01:16:01
Speaker 1: What?
01:16:01
Speaker 3: Not the jaw muscles. The other muscles.
01:16:03
Speaker 1: Yo. Yo.
01:16:07
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, my homie's older. I want to go to Thailand.
01:16:11
Speaker 2: Whenever you stop touring, my nigga, you on 4,000 dates right now, you just said.
01:16:15
Speaker 3: I'm home. I'm home in, uh, in, uh, in... 24 or 25?
01:16:22
Speaker 1: Like, August.
01:16:23
Speaker 3: August, September.
01:16:25
Speaker 1: That works. That's perfect. It's always nice in Thailand, my G. Thailand lit. I'm telling you, Phuket, y'all ain't get to blow your mind, bro.
01:16:33
Speaker 3: I've been to Phuket, too.
01:16:34
Speaker 1: Phuket is dope, too. It's ill, bro.
01:16:36
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Shreveport, my homie on that Sixth Sense, it's a private island hotel.
01:16:40
Speaker 1: Yo, you know what? You know what we can do? This is what we can do. See, we got to film this camera shit. Yo, here's what we can do. He just came up with the master plan. We just talking now and shit. But yo, no, here's what we can do. I got some shows for the tour that they want me to do. In Thailand? Yes. Oh, we there. I'm there. 100,000%. I'm there. 100,000%. I'm there.
01:17:02
Speaker 3: Fuck that.
01:17:03
Speaker 1: I'm going to set up some after parties too. Hey, you know what I mean? You probably know my man over there that do the shows and shit over there. There's two niggas over there. My man Muhammad and then there's my man... Top.
01:17:17
Speaker 3: See, I fuck with the rap homie, Con, man. These niggas is.
01:17:24
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, titanium, these niggas is like... And they got his own Red Bull drink, everything, bro. These niggas is through the roof. I think I know what you're talking about. What's the name of the drink?
01:17:34
Speaker 3: Titanium, Red Bull.
01:17:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
01:17:36
Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about.
01:17:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. My homies, man. I'm telling you, that thing, I just... My man, Ty, he fucks with them niggas too. Yeah, bro, I'm telling you, it's... We all did dinner one night. Never mind, we're getting off topic. I'm telling you, bro, it's through the roof out there, G. We... It's next level out there, man. Four weeks signed out.
01:17:56
Speaker 2: I want to know why I ain't got no Rue Rosé.
01:18:01
Speaker 1: At my crib.
01:18:02
Speaker 3: My man got a wine company.
01:18:04
Speaker 1: I drink wine. I got a wine fridge.
01:18:07
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be loaded. I'm sitting here.
01:18:10
Speaker 1: I got a CE42. I don't even know why I ain't got a case of Earl at the crib. You heard? I need Earl so I can call Earl. You heard?
01:18:18
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here.
01:18:19
Speaker 1: Man, I need Ja Rule at the crib.
01:18:21
Speaker 3: My Red Rose is.
01:18:23
Speaker 1: For sure. I'm not bullshitting. It's one of the best Sauvignon Cabernets on the market. I already know. And it's one of the strongest. My shit is like 15.4% alcohol content. I need that.
01:18:34
Speaker 3: I got a guy. Red Rose, y'all. Yeah, it's called Red Rose.
01:18:37
Speaker 1: Check it out. I got White Rose coming, too. I did all the Roses. So I got Red Rose. I got White Rose. I got Pink Rose. My White Rose is my white wine. I'm doing a Sauvignon Blanc, and I'm doing a Pinot. And with my Red. I got.
01:18:51
Speaker 3: Remember, Nori was Pinot Grigio.
01:18:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, still. That nigga was not playing, boy. But I got my shit. I'm still testing my shit because I want it to be, you know, favorable to a Santa Margarita, which is... Nori put me on to the Santa Margarita. You know what I'm saying? He's been on that shit for years. Yo, it's a great fucking bottle of wine. And it's fucking... Cost-efficient. It's not out of the price range for people to go get. My Red Rose is a little pricey, but it's a great bottle of wine. I cannot fucking give it to any less than what I'm giving them.
01:19:30
Speaker 3: Great taste, cost.
01:19:30
Speaker 1: But it's still not that expensive. It's $ 100 a bottle, man. You know what I'm saying? It's not crazy, but you know what I'm saying? But it's such a good red. And then I got my Pink Rose. Yeah. That's my rosé, and I got that coming. And then I got my Concrete Rose. which is my tequila that I'll have in number two. Oh, tequila gang. Yeah, but all these shit. Going for it now.
01:19:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, man.
01:19:53
Speaker 1: You know that fishing line that you heard? The Spirits game is good. The Spirits game has been good. That shit like selling oil, B, because I remember when we first launched Duce, niggas used to look at me like, what's this? Sure. Now, how can I get that? I'm trying to tell you. You know what I'm saying? It's like selling oil. I'm about to do some special launches with my wine. And some, you know, some very sexy restaurants that we all frequent. That's a low-key spot people don't know, man. The restaurants is where you hit them at. Yeah.
01:20:24
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
01:20:25
Speaker 1: Because it gives you your beverage a premium. That's right.
01:20:29
Speaker 2: Like, the restaurants is where you hit them at. It's where you make your beverage, like you said, a premium beverage.
01:20:34
Speaker 1: Yep.
01:20:35
Speaker 2: So, you know, it's been, like I said, man, you my bro. We did the intake already.
01:20:40
Speaker 1: We got to do it twice. My motherfucking brother. Love you, nigga. You know it, bitch.
01:20:45
Speaker 3: You did it.
01:20:52
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