Aliens & Angels: October 4th, 2026 – Jim Ryave

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Karen Holton TV presents the Aliens and Angels podcast. Meet experiencers, contactees, abductees,
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ET human hybrids, and more weird paranormal states of reality.
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Hi, everybody.
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Welcome back to the Aliens and Angels podcast. Today, I'm
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very happy to bring on a brand new guest, Jim Reif.
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For those of you who are not familiar with his work,
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James L. Rive is a religious demonologist and a researcher
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of unidentified anomalous phenomena and non-human intelligence. With more than
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three decades of research into UAP, NHI, spirituality, and anomalous experiences,
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he brings a unique perspective shaped by both extensive study
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and first-hand encounters. Jim is the author of New Proof
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of God and Satan, which covers his extraordinary spiritual experiences,
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guidance for how to lead a healthy spiritual life, and
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practical approaches to effectively addressing existential and other major problems
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facing humanity. Jim is also the author of the two-volume
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reference series, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena and Non-Human Intelligence, a compelling
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historical compendium, Volume 1, Antiquity, 1979, and Volume 2, 1980
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to 2025, offering readers a comprehensive look at the most
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compelling reports of UAP history across cultures and throughout history.
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In addition to his research, Jim has spent more than
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30 years as a business and information technology consultant, bringing
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an analytical, practical and a proven best practices based approach
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to complex subjects. His ability to combine technical expertise with
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decades of paranormal investigation allows him to examine extraordinary claims
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with both critical thinking and an open mind. A passionate
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advocate for serving others and strengthening communities, Jim's personal mission
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is to bring humanity together, and his website is www.bringhumanitytogether.com.
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Through his writing, speaking engagements, and research, he encourages thoughtful
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dialogue about some of humanity's most enduring mysteries while promoting understanding, compassion,
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and collaboration for making our world a safer and better place.
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Okay, without further ado, everybody, here's Jim. Jim, welcome to
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the Aliens and Angels podcast.
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Good afternoon, Karen. It's an honor to be here. Hi, everyone.
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It's nice to have you here. I'm just going to
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quickly check in with the chat. We've got my moderator, Denise,
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in the house, and she has provided us with some
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links that I'll throw up on the screen.
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I said I'll throw up.
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No, I'll throw them up onto the stage for everybody
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to see.
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Oh, my gosh. Sometimes I'm my own.
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Just getting started.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so this is also where you can find Jim's
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so much for being here and for being my moderator.
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She never misses a beat. She puts everything up for everybody.
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And let's see who else. Oh, we've got Reverend Wolf. Sorry,
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Reverend Wolf VIP. Hey, how's everybody doing?
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We're doing great.
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Thank you so much for being here today.
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That's awesome.
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Okay, I've sort of touched base with everybody. Jim, maybe
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we should start at the beginning. How did you get
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started in all of this? And was there a particular
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moment or experience that opened you up to realizing that
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we are not alone here on planet Earth?
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Well, how I got started was through just an interest
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always in science and in legends and mythology as a
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young child. My mother, who was an English teacher for
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over 25 years, encouraged me to go to the library
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every week to check out books. And so I always
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have had a voracious appetite for learning. And growing up
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in the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania area, when I did, there was
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a very famous Saturday night show called Chiller Theater with
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Bill Cardill as the host. And they used to show campy...
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extraterrestrial and monster movies on Saturday nights and my young
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friends and I used to like watching them because the
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good guys always won and the extraterrestrials and monsters were
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not scary. But to give you a real quick overview
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of myself, I grew up there in Pittsburgh and then
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obtained a bachelor of science degree in psychology from the
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University of Michigan and had the special privilege of conducting
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patient therapy. I got a really strong foundation in that area.
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My day job for much of my career has been
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in business and information technology consulting, both client relationship management
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and overseeing as a program manager, uh, major implementations and
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even doing technical implementations, but on the side, uh, kind
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of like the, uh, you know, the, uh, the, the,
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the hidden college, as it were, I maintain this interest
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in ufology and, uh, spirituality on the side, uh, In
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addition to that, what I do right now in terms
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of speaking and authoring and publishing books, I am the
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longest-serving president of an IT and services professional association called HDI.
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I serve as president of the Central Florida Chapter, and
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it's totally dedicated to the development and promotion professional networking
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of the IT service and support community. And I've always
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felt strongly about giving back to society. In the past,
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I've been an instructor of professional rescuers at an ambulance squad,
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as well as an instructor for the American Red Cross
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for civilians. And what I'm doing right now is another
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way I'm giving back to society. But going back to
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your question, Karen, in terms of a specific event that
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really piqued my interest in ufology is shortly after getting
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married in 1989, my first wife and I driving back
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from a lunch meeting with friends in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, driving
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east on the Pennsylvania Turnpike near Harrisburg, saw this rather
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large and very conspicuous UAP above the highway. It was
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larger than the largest commercial UAP jetliner at the time
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and it was in the upper right hand corner of
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the windshield of the vehicle I was driving for just
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over three seconds and both my wife and I were
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fixated on it and it suddenly disappeared like a cloaking
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device was engaged and my wife turned to me and
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asked me what was that and it was very impressive
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to me because it certainly didn't look like any modern
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human technology and the ability to be perfectly still and
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not make any sound was astounding. And then a year
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and a half later, during a business conference, I had
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the rare opportunity to meet Dr. Carl Sagan, famous astronomer.
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He gave a keynote address and then sat down before
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our MC made a few announcements before lunch break. And
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then I approached him surrounded by a crowd of folks
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that wanted to meet him. And I told him about
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the encounter and asked him of his personal beliefs in
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life outside of Earth, extraterrestrial life. And he looked at
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me right in the eyes and gave me this very
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humorous response saying, Jim, it would be very reassuring to
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know that there's other intelligent life in the universe besides
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human beings. And that is also reflected in Dr. Avi
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Loeb Same comments. He runs the Galileo Project, as you know,
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at Harvard University. And I found it to be very,
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very funny. And I always suspected that Dr. Sagan knew
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more than he shared. So after that, my interest in
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ufology only increased. And then I publicly... joined the ufology
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world this year when I published those two books and
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helped deliver the Contact in the Desert conference, which is
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the world's largest conference on topics of ufology and consciousness
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in other realms. It is an outstanding event I recommend
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for everybody in Indian Wells, California. So that was my
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initial compelling experience with the UAP. I've also taken some videography,
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which is posted on my website, breakhumanitytogether.com. And on the
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spirituality side, it was only later in my adult life
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that I really got a deeper understanding of the reality
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of the spiritual dimensions of our world. And I became
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involved in the Catholic charismatic movement, which taught me about
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spiritual warfare. And I actually had been in the same
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prayer group with the gentleman and priest who's the considered
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the father of the Catholic charismatic movement. Uh, and, uh, I,
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I am a Catholic today with a Jewish background. So
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I have that comparative religions, uh, understanding and anybody who
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goes to my website will see that I've got helpful prayers, uh,
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for Christians, uh, those that are of the Jewish faith
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and those that, uh, are of Islamic faith. And, uh,
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My encounters spiritually far outnumbered my UAP encounters. I've only
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been a witness of UAPs. I've never been an abductee
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or had any encounters with entities, but fascinating by all
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that we're hearing by so many people, such as yourself
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and those around the world. But the spiritual encounters were
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most intense shortly after I moved to Florida. And probably
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the most interesting experience was being used in a sting operation,
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unbeknownst to me, to prove God, angels, and the forces
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of evil exist. And that's the topic of my first book,
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New Proof of God and Satan. which is considered for
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a miracle investigation by the Roman Catholic Church, which is
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highly unusual because most of the miracle investigations are miraculous
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health healings that medicine can't explain. The combination of experiences
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that I've had, most of them have been written about
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by prominent exorcists. And many of the books I recommend
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on my website, there are many books I recommend on spirituality.
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and on UAP and NHI by very famous authors. So
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there's much more on my website than my books, of course.
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And in addition to the book and a digital artifact,
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a photograph taken in 2015, which I believe is indisputable
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proof the spiritual world and specifically, uh, uh, us as
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human beings being targeted, uh, by, uh, this, these, this
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race of, uh, demons, uh, also personal insights were, were
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downloaded to me that the existential threats that we face,
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all the major societal problems that we have are really, uh,
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driven by Satan and demons, and it's not NHI. It
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is not UAP-associated NHI. One of the things that I
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have emphasized on a one-hour web conference with members of Congress,
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and I even submitted a proposal at the request of
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a leading congressman on a House Oversight Committee regarding this
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very topic of UAP and NHI is we need to
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establish a congressional committee that is visible, accountable to the people,
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approved by the presidential administration, that is formal governance and
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negotiation with the various UAP-associated NHI, because that's going to
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be really key. I offered to write a new Bill
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of Rights. that protects not only human beings from what
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they're experiencing around the world that is involuntary kidnapping and
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medical experimentation or genetic testing and other things, and also
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protect the NHI in this Bill of Rights committing to
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not intentionally shoot down their their UAP with directed energy weapons. Right.
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I think by establishing formal governance and negotiations that starts
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in the U.S. because the world tends to look to
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the U.S. for leadership of going all the way back
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to 1933 in Magenta, Italy, when the Vatican reached out
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to us after the UAP capture under Mussolini. I think
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we can set the foundation for a global governance and
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negotiation committee. Let me take a pause here and see
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if I can answer any questions.
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Okay.
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Well, the first one that comes to mind, I'd like
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to hear a little bit about if you can give
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us a summary of your first book and if you
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could tell us about what proof there is that God exists,
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that Satan exists. And from there, of course, we know
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they have legions of creatures that do their bidding, for
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lack of a better word. But I'm wondering if you
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could tell us a bit about that, because you know what,
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in this emerging AI system and all the propaganda on
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alt news, as well as mainstream, like really people don't
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know who to turn to. And when people get really frightened,
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often they don't think. I don't know if it's a
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global phenomenon or just with some of us, but sometimes
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when we get really freaked out, which is easy to
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do if you watch what's going on in the world,
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we forget, you know, that God is a real thing,
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that there is spiritual energy, that there's health.
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And it's the easiest thing to do.
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And yet it's the last thing that a lot of
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people would try. And then part of that is because
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they don't know what to believe anymore. Let's face it,
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we've been let down by governments. We've been let down
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by the medical industry. We've been let down by religion.
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We've been just let down left, right, and center and
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gaslit till the cows come home. And so I thought
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it would be really awesome if you could give people
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a little introduction to that book and to just give
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a brief summary on basically that God and Satan are real?
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Or am I asking too much? I'm not sure.
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Never.
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You're never asking too much. And AI could be a
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whole topic for another show. Does anybody think AI is
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out of control when the leaders of the AI corporations
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can't control their AI from hacking into other companies?
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Don't know why they're doing it. and don't understand how
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AI is actually operating. It's not just code. It actually
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mimics the human brain. So it's a fascinating topic, but
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going back to a new proof of God and Satan,
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I would say the most important things that everyone needs
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to know is it is all real and it's, Those
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of us that are firsthand experiencers have a real passion
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and strong belief in what we have experienced. I feel
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very strongly based upon a lot of experiences in terms
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of what I'm sharing on the spiritual side is real.
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I also believe from my experiences and research on the
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UAP and UAP-associated NHI that all that stuff is real
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as well. But what I believe is that the universe
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that we're functioning within does function within this framework of
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good versus evil. And I had to learn this. I
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was always of a skeptical mindset growing up. I didn't
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grow up in a religious household. And only... Started getting
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more involved when I was in college and establishing a
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faith-based life. And especially as I became an adult. But
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after moving to Florida with my second wife, I experienced
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several months and several years of inexplicable hardships. So my
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career had been on an upward trajectory in terms of
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accomplishments and positions and empowerment and earnings and all that.
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And within a year, everything seemed to tank. And there
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were escalating tensions in relationships where there weren't tensions before. uh,
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and things I couldn't explain, uh, you know, periodic things
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like when you're, you're not totally, uh, plugged in in
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terms of the spiritual reality, a lot of the stimuli
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that you experience, you write off or disregard or ignore
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thinking that you have imagined something or you have you know,
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it must be your fault that, uh, you know, your,
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your keys are not where you always put your keys and,
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you know, they, and they end up, uh, you know, uh,
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next to the toaster or in a drawer that you
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never put them in. Um, but, uh, a prolonged period of, uh,
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difficulties after being exposed to a relative down in Florida
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that was, uh, what's called perfectly possessed, meaning someone who,
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by their will, is willing to trade, be willing to
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be possessed by an actual demon in exchange for power.
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It could be wealth. It could be some other desired benefits.
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And just the progressive exposure to what I didn't realize
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was a possessed human being just brought some, you know, this,
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this unfortunate events into my life. And so it emotionally
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was extremely straining. I ended up having some really challenging
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jobs that were not as good as the ones that
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I had before that were very stressful and demanding. And
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in my frustration and heartbreak, uh, what God conveyed to
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me was some clarity in terms of what was happening.
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And God encouraged me to watch documentaries, read books, learn
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as much as I can about, uh, spirituality and, uh, demonology. And, uh,
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there is a lot out there. In fact, uh, a
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lot of the, the most, uh, helpful videos, uh, and
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books are listed on my website. Uh, The most important
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things I'd like to convey are on my website tab,
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Our War, because human beings are born into a war,
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and every man, woman, and child needs to know this
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because all of us are potential targets. Anybody that doesn't
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realize that thoughts can be planted in your brain telepathically
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of these spiritual beings is in danger of being manipulated.
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And that is a lot of what we're seeing in
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our world today. I realize that advanced civilizations, what I
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call the UAP-associated non-human intelligence, they have advanced telepathy powers,
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but so do angels and demons. They don't need smartphones
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and email systems and texting to communicate. They can communicate
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with each other instantly anywhere in the world. And so
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we're at a tactical disadvantage against malevolent demons. However, if
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we realize that not all thoughts are our own, that
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does give us the opportunity to filter them to analyze
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and make sure that we understand what's going on. And
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the reason why I say this is that there's so
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many human beings that are victimized in the United States
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and Canada and around the world. Suicide is one of
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the leading top two causes of death for young people.
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The age is.
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For both 10 to 25 and 26 to 44. That
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is unacceptable. Every life is sacred and every life affects
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so many others. And God taught me that demons are
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associated with the overwhelming majority, maybe 99% of these suicides,
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convincing people that they're not loved, that tomorrow will not
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be better than today. And that is a problem for
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very young children that are getting bullied on social media
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or bullied at school. Bullying should not be tolerated at
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any school, by the way. And it's only recently in
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the United States we began prosecuting online bullying specific to
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cases where there was suicide. So in the U.S., I
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think it's every 11 minutes someone takes their own life.
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And the percentage or the incidence is even higher for veterans.
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We lose 17 a day. And it's a terrible tragedy
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that can absolutely be avoided. And so what I'm suggesting
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is that if anybody is having suicidal thoughts, especially on
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a recurrent basis, get the medical advice. attention that you need,
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the psychologist, psychiatrist, attention, get a support group because everybody
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needs an emotional support group of human beings. No human
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beings are meant to be in isolation. And if for
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some reason that combined with pharmacology doesn't alleviate those recurrent thoughts,
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definitely pursue experienced clergy that can remediate that. And I
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found a lot of power in the Catholic faith. And
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Pope John Paul II, now Saint John Paul II, he
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issued a letter to all dioceses around the world, starting
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with the United States. Every bishop of every diocese was
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instructed to assign a diocesan exorcist. And while there are
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not nearly as many as are needed here in North
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America or in Europe. I mean, there's whole nations that
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don't have any, by the way. It's easier, I think,
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to find an exorcist in the Catholic faith than in
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other religions. But uh, uh, one of the things is
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often said within the Catholic faith by, by very accomplished
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exorcists is that penance, the asking for forgiveness, uh, is
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extremely powerful daily prayer, uh, monthly penance, or more often
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if you're suffering and then, uh, Helpful prayers delivered by clergy.
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And of course, every one of us is empowered to
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say our own prayers. No intermediary is required between us
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and our creator, our God. And there's a list of
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helpful prayers on bringing humanity together that are very helpful
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as well. In addition, in a similar vein, people that
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are suffering substance abuse are also... uh, targeted, uh, demons.
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They try to isolate us emotionally. That's their, you know,
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I described this in great depth in the first book,
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how they do it. Uh, but they seek to damage relationships, uh,
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attack on multiple fronts, uh, damage your work relationships, uh,
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so that you get fired, that you have financial hardship,
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and then you have emotional, you know, conflicts in your
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personal life. But they're all, all these demons are focused
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on the same thing is that it's trying to manipulate
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the victim and if they are vulnerable take it to
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the extreme levels so if they're if they're really if
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they can't control their anger the demons will try to
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weaponize them in the mass casualty events if they're just
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extremely depressed, they'll try to get them to commit suicide.
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I can speak from personal experience based upon the charisms
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that God has specifically given to me, that demons can
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affect not only your thoughts, but they can affect your
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physical body. And so anybody that is suffering from addictions,
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they can while you're trying to stay clean, they can
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manifest a physical discomfort. And because they don't eat sleep
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or food, they can just torment you mentally all night.
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So this type of subject matter, I can get pretty dark,
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but the good news is, you know, around the time
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of the pandemic, there was a lot of concern in
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the United States about racism and a lot of horrible
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things that were done. I, I, but what God has
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told me, I can speak with authority that the only
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races that every human being should be cognizant of are
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the human race, which we're all on the same team
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and we need to come together to help each other.
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And the only other race that we really need to
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be concerned about is this race that wants to destroy
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the human race that is Satan and demons. Now, We've
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talked about other species. Satan and demons are non-human intelligence,
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but the UAP-associated non-human intelligence, that could bring a transformation
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to the quality of life to our world. And I'm speaking,
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of course, I firmly believe that if we can bring
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humanity together and prove the maturity of our species, that
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we can actually live together in peace and collaboration, Other
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species will be willing to share their advanced technologies in medicine, propulsion, energy,
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clean energy, so that we can improve the quality of
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life for human beings all around the world. But I
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don't believe they're going to share their technologies until we
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can prove we can live in harmony, because otherwise, a
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nation that gets advantageous technology will invariably use it in
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a military fashion for conquest. And we see a lot
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of adversity in our world with China and Russia and
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Iran and non-NATO countries. So I think we've got an
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enormous opportunity just by sharing what's on my website and
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what's in the first book. We can improve everybody's quality
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of life if we can assimilate that and be the
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best that we can be with our families, with our community,
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with our neighbors and friends. I just think we have
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a great opportunity to make our world a safer and
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better place.
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Oh, I agree 100%, 100%. people often ask me, what
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do I do? What do I do?
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I say, number one, get right with God. Number two,
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get right with yourself. Number three, get right with your
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family and your, you know, whoever you're closest to. And
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people go, oh, that's really good advice. I didn't think
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of that. Well, that's sort of how it works for me.
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And I'm not that unusual. I just want to touch
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on a couple of points you mentioned, Jim. First of all,
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I believe that although angels, demons, and extraterrestrials, for lack
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of a better word, they could be crypto-terrestrials, you know,
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you can slice and dice it many different ways. But
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although I also, I believe they are non-human intelligences, I
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don't think they're the same thing. And I kind of
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agree with the Pope who recently said, I'm not Catholic,
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but I do agree with some of the things the
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Pope says. and that is that demons and angels have
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no need of flying saucers or vehicles or plasma orbs.
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They don't need any of that, which is what you said, basically.
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They don't need technology to get inside our head or
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to influence us or to make their presence known. Absolutely
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agree with you on that one.
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Okay.
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I also wanted to tell you, I won't get into
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it too much because we're limited for time, but I
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had my own experience where I.
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Was in a very, very.
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What I will call low vibrational state. I was in
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a very deep state of grieving. I moved into this
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little house and I didn't know that the man who
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lived there before me had offed himself. And I didn't
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find out until two years later. when I met a
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woman who asked me where I lived and I told
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her and she said, oh my God, I knew the
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mother of the man who offed himself and she gave
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me the details. But that was two years later. But
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during that time that I was living in that house,
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I had an overwhelming urge to off myself in a
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very specific manner.
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So I don't know if it.
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Was the residue from the man who had passed away
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in the house or whether it was demons trying to
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get another, you know, another victim.
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I don't, I don't know.
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But I actually had an angelic encounter where I was
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contacted by an angelic force and I was given a
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choice to stay here and receive a gift or to leave.
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You can leave if it's that bad.
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But anyway, I chose to stay, obviously, and to take
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my gift. But I just thought that that harmonized with
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what you were saying.
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Praise God.
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And yeah, it saved my life.
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And my life did not get super easy by any
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stretch of the imagination. But I saw things from a
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different perspective and I was able to learn. And I
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think that that was a really important thing.
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The other thing I.
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Wanted to say about suicide in Canada, they have killed
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with the medical assistance and dying program, they've killed over 100,000 Canadians.
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It's very quickly becoming the fastest cause of death. And
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a lot of those people are not terminally ill.
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They're depressed. They're poor. They're homeless. They got mental health issues.
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And again, the Pope, I'm not Catholic, but I have
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to agree with the Pope where he recently came out
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and said that, no, that's not right.
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You know, people should not be.
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Encouraged to off themselves the way they are in Canada.
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So that's kind of scary. But yeah, you talked about
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so many things. Very, very interesting. I love your perspective.
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I'd love to have you back on another show. Let's
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get into AI. I've got some thoughts and some theories
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about it. That would make for another really, really good show.
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But I'm wondering if you want to add anything or
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would you like to segue a little bit into your
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other two books and let people know what that's about
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and how that could be very helpful? Personally, I think
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the more we know, the less afraid we are, the
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less easily controlled we are, the less we're going to
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fall for propaganda, and the more we're going to keep
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our critical thinking skills. So that's why I'm very pro-information,
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and it looks like you've got a lot of information
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tucked into those two books. Do you want to tell
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us a bit about how you came to write them
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and what they're about and what they offer the audience?
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Absolutely. I would like to share a couple of points.
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before we go into the UAP and NHI books. One,
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most important thing I would like to share with everyone
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is that, and I'm proof of this, and I live
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this every day, God loves each of us and wants
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the best of us.
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And in.
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A world where so many people have moved away from faith,
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organized religion, and as a scientist, my beliefs are not
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shackled by the doctrines of the various religions, especially when
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you experience things in real life and you realize that
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they don't fit with age-old doctrines. Case in point, in
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the Catholic faith, there is no belief in ghosts. However, exorcists,
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famous exorcists around the world and myself who have encountered
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human spirits do recognize that there are major differences between
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human spirits and demons. Most human spirits are benevolent and
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they're wanting to they're not ready to move into the
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light or they need help transitioning to be in heaven
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with their loved ones. Some people get, some spirits get
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stuck here and there are some malevolent souls that choose
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to stay and they can act like and manifest in
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similar fashion to demons whereby the atmosphere, the environment that
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you live come into, like you're moving into a new residence,
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oftentimes you can feel a difference in the air when
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there's a malevolent spirit, whether it's a demon or a
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malevolent human soul. But in either case, prayers can help
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and the experienced clergy can definitely help. And most clergy will,
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and they don't need to be an exorcist. most clergy
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can do a home cleansing ceremony. And I wish I
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would have done that during my first marriage because the
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home we moved into, the second home, definitely had manifestations
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that I didn't recognize. I was not always a spiritually
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sensitive person. I didn't always have these charisms of discernment.
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And that kind of home cleansing is vitally important, but
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most important thing I want to come across is God
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is much more powerful than any evil. And God is
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eager to help each and every one of us with
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his angels. And while the subject matter of malevolent spirituality
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is scary for most people, we have nothing to be
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afraid of. If we are open to having a, an
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excellent relationship with God. And what brings about an excellent
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relationship is praying as much as possible, at least daily,
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and trying to be the best person that you can be.
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With that, I'll also say that who does the Bible
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say is the prince of lies? Satan, of course. And
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so many adults, for at least decades, 10 years have
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told me they don't know where to go to find
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the truth. The news broadcasts seem to be tainted. At
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least in the United States, while they're not nearly as
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dramatically propaganda as the news is in China, North Korea.
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And.
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Russia, it it doesn't share the most important stories. Uh,
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and there are political slants, uh, and there are vetted,
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still vetted, uh, investigative journalism sources like frontline and 60 minutes. Uh, but, uh,
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it is, it is hard to navigate and find the
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truth with all the misinformation and disinformation that's pumped out
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over the internet and, and, and, and, formerly known as Twitter.
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So be careful what you read on social media. Make
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sure you have multiple sources to corroborate. But one thing
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I'll say, God is the truth and will never lead
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you astray. And the difference between, there's a big difference
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between the voice of God and the voice of evil.
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And it was the voice of God that compelled me
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to meet with the diocesan exorcist, which resulted in Satan
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threatening me through that photograph. Usually when God will speak
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to you, it is to help your loved ones, help yourself,
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help other people. It's always of a positive nature. The
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voice of malevolent spirits is always going to be detrimental
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to yourself, sinful temptations, or it's always going to be
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of a negative nature. So I'm hoping that that provides
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some clarity. And walk in faith, walk in love, and
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by doing that, by bringing humanity together, we're going to
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make the world a better and safer place. Sure will.
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Segwaying to the UAP and NHI world, I wrote those
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two books because I was having trouble finding a collection
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of compelling UAP phenomena with detailed descriptions. So many of
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the good books, which are listed on my website, they
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have a laser focus on one UAP and one extraterrestrial encounter.
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And so I realized that I couldn't document the 260,000
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UAP encounters that Jacques Vallée put into a master database
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for Robert Bigelow back in the day. But I wanted
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to showcase that from antiquity, there is overwhelming evidence of
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the reality of this. And so I wanted to convince
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the pop, I wanted it to be an educational resource
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for everybody who wanted to know, and also a convincing
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resource for current non-believers in UAP, NHI, that this phenomenon
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does exist. And you don't have to go far back.
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You know, the Betty and Barney Hill experience in 1961,
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was just overwhelming. It's compelling witness testimonials.
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Dr.
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John Mack brought a lot of credibility with his medical
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credentials and showcasing the most compelling abduction cases that he experienced. Dr.
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Roger Lear with the excision of alien implants. It was
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very compelling. But as I highlight in the first book,
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there were aerial combats back in Nuremberg in 1561 and
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in Basel in 1566 that were documented in broadsheets, which
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are broadsheets and wooden carvings, respectively. Broadsheets tend to go
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into greater detail than newspaper articles, but these were very
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compelling events back then. And of course we have so
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much more compelling recent events based upon our naval aviators
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and air force pilots and the high tech sensors that
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multi-sensor the equipment that we have now. So we know
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that they're real and we just need to figure out
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what they are. Now, David Rush was recently on Joe
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Rogan and he shared, he answered a question that surprised
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me and probably a lot of other people. He said
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that reptilians are behind the tic-tacs, such as the Nimitz encounter.
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And I know journalists like Ross Coulthard had claimed that
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they were alien reproduction vehicles by Lockheed Martin. So in
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the final analysis, I think we're all trying to figure
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out who all these entities are and who's on first
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and what's on second, if you know the Abbott and
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Costello route. priceless routine. My proposal to this congressman by
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having this congressional committee is if we have a public
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formal committee, I have no doubt that within 90 days
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of it being established, we will get direct contact because
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I'm sure these entities want meaningful relations. They want access
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to our natural resources, and I'm sure that we can
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come up with an optimal scenario for engaging with each
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type of species. Now, it's been said that there are
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some that are malevolent to humanity, those that are neutral
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and those that are positively inclined, maybe multiple that are
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positively inclined. But I think the sooner that we can
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bridge those connections and learn from them what the truth is,
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we can bypass all the brick walls we've run into
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in terms of the Pursue, the presidential initiative to reduce uh, reveal, uh, um,
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declassify and release all the UAP files. Uh, we know, uh,
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what we've heard that Stephen Miller and other congressmen have
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run into, uh, power brokers, uh, that are, uh, you know, non-public,
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non-elected figures and three-letter agencies in the military that are
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preventing meaningful disclosure. And if we can initiate that direct, uh, communication,
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that pulls the rug out from all of them. And
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then the truth will be out there and then it'll
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be easier to get those files declassified and released. I
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think we also need a presidential directive to conduct inventory
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of our deep underground military bases. We know that there
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are several where we have extraterrestrial artifacts and possibly even
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NHI down there. And so I think the public is
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entitled to know the truth because it has a profound
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impact on how we can improve our world and the
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quality of life for all.
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Oh, yes.
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Very, very well said. You know, this brings us full
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circle to the beginning of the show today.
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Where you were saying that humankind has to do better
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before ET is going to want to hang out with us.
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That has been my experience.
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I've had ET contact, kind of unconventional, what I would
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consider trans-dimensional contact.
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I've got a book out about it.
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But one thing that was very clear to me is
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that they are not going to engage with us, at
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least this particular group, are not going to engage with
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us until we reach our next stage of development and
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become more like them. What I mean by that, they
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have put away their warring ways. They have overcome anger
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and jealousy and competitiveness and all of that. Why? Because
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they found out the only system that's functional and works
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is one based on love. And love isn't just a warm,
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fuzzy feeling. Love is also having faith, having self-control, having patience,
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having mildness, you know, being kind, being peaceful, being joyful.
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All of these things are components that make up love.
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And until we're ready to step outside of the construct
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that we've been programmed into, and willing to step into
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a new way of being, then they're happy to make
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our acquaintance and have, they will share everything with us, technology, everything.
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It's amazing what we could have, but we have to
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do the work first. And that's where a lot of
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people don't want to do the work because it involves
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shadow work, which is kind of nasty, right?
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And, um, But it's the only way. And so I
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think what.
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We need is we need to wake up to what's
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going on, recognize that this world is not what we've
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been taught it is. It's not in our best efforts. Oh,
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one other thing I wanted to say in that is,
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You know, these advanced beings, these non-human intelligence and advanced beings,
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they've already been through what we're going through. And they
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have absolute faith that we can fix this for ourselves.
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We need to make better decisions for our health, our
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mental health, everything. But I agree, like by coming together,
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we can do anything. We have all the power. And
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I'm quite excited about our future. Anyway, I'm rambling on.
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I'm going to zip it and let you finish up, Jim.
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We've got about eight minutes left. I'm wondering, is there
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anything we didn't get to talk about that you'd like
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to share with my audience?
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And also, even though.
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I've had it up on the screen a little bit,
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for those that are listening on audio, can you tell
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people where they can find you as well? Yes.
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My contact information is on www.bringhumanitytogether.com. Most important information I'm
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trying to convey is there. Additional information, of course, as
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well as a link to the digital artifact is in
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my first book. And all the books are available wherever
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you buy them. hardback, paperback, audio books, and electronic books
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here and around the world. And beautifully stated, Karen, the
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future of humanity is bright if we can walk in love.
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And we get so much more out of life with collaboration.
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Thomas Jefferson, back in 1806, stated, referring to the greatest
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accomplishment of his presidency, which is widely considered to be
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the Louisiana Purchase, which gave us the entire United States
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land west of the Mississippi. He said, diplomacy is the
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currency of nations. There's just so much more you can
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get with diplomacy. And so that's what I'm seeking to
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make all our nation leaders realize, especially those that seem
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adversarial in terms of mission to Canada and the United
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States and our friends at NATO, we can improve the
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quality of life for everyone around the world. We can
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increase the economic opportunity for everyone. There's no logical reason
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for the militaristic and imperialistic ambitions being demonstrated by nations
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like Russia and China right now, when we can all
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be blessed with so much more if we collaborate. And
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so if anyone has political connections to political leaders and
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Congress and parliaments, you know, I'm eager to share this
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and help us move forward as fast as possible because
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we do need to address these multiple existential threats that
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are in front of us. And I think we can
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do it. I do have faith in humanity. Yeah, me too.
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We can do this. Together, we can do this. And
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I'm excited about that.
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And I also feel people had to get sick and
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tired of the system and I think they're really getting
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sick and tired of being sick and tired and people
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are ready to make a flip and a switch and
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I think it's going to happen very fast when it
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does happen Jim I'm so pleased that I was able
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to meet you and have you on the show and
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I am very appreciative of our mutual friend Mark Eddy
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who introduced us to each other thank you Mark if
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you're out there And James, I'd love to have you back.
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Let's have you back and talk about AI and continue
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the conversation. I also want to thank everybody out there
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who joined us for the live chat, those that are
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watching a replay or even an audio podcast.
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I appreciate each.
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And every one of you so very, very much. And
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with that, we'll close out the show for today. We'll
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say bye-bye. Send out much love to everybody. Jim, if
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you want to hang on a few minutes till after
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the show closes out, I just want to book a
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date with you, if that's okay.
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Absolutely. Thank you so much. It's been a great pleasure.
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God bless you.
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Yeah, my pleasure. Absolutely my pleasure. It's been great. Thank
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