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Our foundering fathers here in this country, brought about the
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only true revolution that has ever taken place in man's history.
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Evolve the idea that you and I have within ourselves,
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the god given right and the ability to determine our
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own destiny.
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The United States of America the greatest nation in history,
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ordained by our founders to be guided by divine providence,
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but today we are witnessing the orchestrated disintegration of America.
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Take a few seconds and take a look around your town,
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your state, look at your country and your world, and
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boldly ask what in the hell is going on?
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
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We didn't pass it on to our children in the bloodstream.
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The only way they can inherit the freedom we have
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known is if we fight for it, protect it, defend.
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It, and then hand it to them with the well.
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Taught lessons of how they in their lifetime. Let's do
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the same.
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Welcome to the podcast Project Third Eye Open, where we
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dare to question with boldness the events that are unfolding
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around us that others won't. At the end of the day,
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it is we the people who will decide the destiny
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of the nation. Now introducing your host Tony L.
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Grit Tans, gre teens, great teas.
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All. This is Tony Tony L with project that I open.
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And we are back with the very very special special
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guests here. I mean, before I get started, definitely give
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all praise to the most high and definitely curse y'all
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while we go through these very economical chids and times.
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because for your currency, paper currency, it's not gonna be
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around too much longer.
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That being said, do check out my website in general,
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On your favorite social podcasts and social media platforms.
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So we have with us today.
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Michelle styles sh By profession of physical therapists. But when
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she goes into the booth and come back out with
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the capeon, she is someone who describes herself as someone's
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be able to simplify the complex and make it simple,
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kind of like what I try to do. So based
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on that that we have a very good dialogue here.
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She's she's working on the second or three trilogies. The
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first one was One Idea to Rule Them All, Reverse
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Engineering American Propaganda.
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That's her first book.
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She's currently working on her second, One Versus is the
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One Idea Rule Them All Reverse Engineering Democracy Theater Straight
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from the Great State of Arizona Styles.
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Hi, Tony, thanks for having me on. I'm excited to,
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you know, just talk with you today and and have
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a great conversation with you know, with your audience being
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here to listen.
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So tell the force to bout you a little bit. Well.
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Yeah, as as you noted, I am a physical therapist
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by trade, and as your models as question, boldly that's
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what I did, and it led me down a rabbit hole.
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I started seventeen years ago. Essentially, I saw some things.
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I saw some corruption on a local level what was
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generally considered it to me a smaller ant hill, you know,
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if you want to say it like that. And I
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thought Washington has to be just pathetic at this point,
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you know. And so there were a couple other things
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at the time. But I just in my mind, I said,
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I'm going to study propaganda, you know. I kind of
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felt like God said that to me, actually, But and
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it was just out of the blue, like because you think,
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why would I, you know, why would I do this?
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But I just started reading and I picked up George
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Creole's How We Advertised America. George Creole was the head
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of the Committee on Public Information, if you're familiar with that,
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and it was his book Post Opal, you know, Post
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after the Operation, and he was saying, you know, look,
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look what we did. You know, we advertised America and
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spread the gospel of Americanism to the rest of the world.
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And I thought, you know, you know, as they started
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reading it, you know, they basically advertised the war, right,
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and I thought, you know, you either have good reasons
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to go to war or you don't. I mean, that
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was in my naive mind, and I said, what's this
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about advertising war? Of course it smacks you really wrong, right,
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like you shouldn't be advertising or selling a war. And
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so I would, you know, say to people, did you
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did you know this? I mean, do you know that?
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I mean, I maybe I slept through my history, social
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science classes or whatever. But I wasn't really aware of
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all that had been done in World War One, and
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so I asked I started just to dig apart the pieces.
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And the neat thing for me was is that not
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having to be siloed in anyone academic discipline made it
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possible for me to just veer over here into communications
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or journalism or psychology or sociology and just kind of
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follow the trail of, you know, wherever my questions led me.
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So that's just a little bit about me and how
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I kind of got to doing this odd thing that
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I'm doing. And the second book is what he actually done.
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It's ready to come live as soon as I get
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the diagrams completed. And I love to sort of again
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in that idea of simplifying things, you know, kind of
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showing in a in a and then my book, my
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first book is full of diagrams. Well not full of them,
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but there's about twelve of them. So I'm trying to
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make this thing that's really sort of complicated and confusing
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to us in the twenty first century, you know, by
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showing the history simple, you know, much more simple to
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understand how long you've been at this seventeen years.
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And what have you found to be the biggest.
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Ah yeah, shockers, Yeah, no deal to you know what
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was right? The moment the myth the myth busting is one.
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You know, most people kind of think that America has
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been clean or propaganda free for most of the twentieth
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century until maybe later, right like with the event of
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fake news. And I think it was either Obama or
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Biden who sort of reversed that edict that we the
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government couldn't propagandize their own population. I don't know if
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you're familiar with that. It was Obama, Okay, yeah, I
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thought it was.
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And so people just think this is a late entry
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into the democratic process, and the aha moment is that
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essentially they had the skills of the early twentieth century,
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They had the technology. There was the law was passed
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that banned propaganda, I think in the twenties, right after
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World War One, because there was such a backlash to
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what was being done. But as a congressman or senator
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said in an investigation a little bit after that, it
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was a couple of years. Actually, there's more journalists now
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in government than there has ever been, and they just
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basically it was just a big head fake. Instead of
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calling it propaganda, it's called education or public relations. So
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you know what I mean. They didn't they didn't stop
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using that technology once they realized how like amazing it
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was in World War One and even before that. So
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so that was AHA moment number one. And so I thought, wow,
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I really don't know anything about this.
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I got it.
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I've got to dig up the history. The second thing
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was that there's this conventional idea that facts and reason
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will protect us from propaganda, which is lies, disinformation, or mistruth.
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So if we just keep our heads and think logically,
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not getting into emotionalism, because they'll trying to stir up
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our emotions as well, and we're going to be safeguarded.
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And what I realized was that's absolutely not true. That's
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why the smartest people can be manipulated just as easily
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as you know, just your average person. So what I
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learned was those things that help us that are actually
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adaptive in a in a communities, things that help us
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take shortcuts to understanding our world, and we do need
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them as we come together in you know, societies that
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you know, become more and more complex, that those things
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are really trusts and and you don't really like if
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you look at I call it the infrastructure a belief Tony.
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So when you're in a community, the things you trust.
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If you think of a number five dice, right with
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a point in the middle and four dots around it,
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I say that experience is the number one thing. Seeing
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is believing. So trust your eyes and we do that, right,
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So doubting Thomas, he said, I want to see it.
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You know, I'm not gonna believe until I actually see it.
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We preferentially take eyewitnesses over hearsay evidence. Right, you saw
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it with your eyes. Okay, Now that's a good witness.
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So we really trust what we see. And so experiences
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are you know, like a mainstay of how we come
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to come to know something. Secondly, if you take that's
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in the middle, if you take the two wings on
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the bottom, one is authority.
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Right.
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If we can't decide through direct experience, we're going to delegate. Okay,
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let's let's look around to see who I know smarter
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than me or has more experience. You know, they have
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more experience in this thing than I do. And so
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I'm gonna trust trust the experts. So trust your eyes,
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trust the experts. And then the third of that triangle
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is trust what other people are saying and doing. And
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so if I still can't make a decision looking at
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the experience myself, looking trusting authorities, maybe there's nobody out
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there that I trust, I'm going to kind of look
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around and go, well, is everybody run into the exit?
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Maybe I should run too, right, or what's everybody else doing?
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You know, sheep feels safe, you know, staying in with
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the herd, right, I don't know that I want to
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stand out over here if everybody's going this way. And
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so that's really ingrained in us. And so those three
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things are sort of adaptive ways that And again, as
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the society becomes more complex and we can't make decisions
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based on something we can touch and feel in our
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environment or somebody that we actually know, we have to
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delegate that out further and further away from us, and
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it becomes highly manipulatable. So that's that was sort of
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the aha that I had. You know, those two right there,
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You know that we weren't using this technology in a democracy,
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and that facts and reason could actually just help us.
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And when it's more of a seduction, you know, manipulating trusts, right,
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Like where you know a person, If a person you know,
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like just look at a spouse and one of the
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other is cheating, you know, there's a whole lot of
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trust there, right, and they use that trust to kind
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of hide that, and then the person goes, how did
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I not see it? Right? And so in society where
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our trusts are now non local. Right if you take
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our country in like let's say the early eighteen hundreds,
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where these these small rural towns were sort of cut
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off from each other, and you know, you might have
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the guy come in in the horse and carriage and
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you know, give you news from outside, but pretty much
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it was a material world, you know, like I knew
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somebody who I knows somebody who knows somebody who was
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right there, or I know somebody who knows somebody who
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knows that guy. Right, And if a con artist came
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through somebody, a snake oil salesman or something, the community,
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you would pretty much one person all take it, one
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person to find out and you're out right, it was
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through the community and everybody was safeguarded. So it was
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really protected, and it was a you know you I
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call that the walnut it has a really hard shell
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on it and it's hard to change. It's really self reinforcing.
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And you can see that with indigenous peoples right that
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aren't in it. You know, the outside world is not
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penetrating them, and they can stay the same for centuries. Right.
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Another example I give with this is the Amish. The
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Amish chose not to have electricity into their homes, which
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is kind of an amazing thing. So they're still living
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right a what would be a nineteen one hundred, you know,
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nineteenth century lifestyle in many cases, when the culture has
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just dramatically changed around them, and so they've they've been
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somewhat impenetrable. They're that walnut that has said, we're not
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going to take that out. Those outside influence, those ideas
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coming from outside the community that we can't essentially vet.
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And that's where things get kind of crazy because if
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you look at like the penny press Tony, right, a
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paper was six cents. Prior to that, it was pretty
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much upper middle class, but a penny now, you know,
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the rank and file could start to take the news
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from outside their local environment. And when they when they
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did that, then at the same time, by the way,
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the railroad's growing across America so now and people were
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flocking to the cities because of the industrialization, right, the
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jobs were coming into you know, urban areas, and so
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the people were drawn in, and the railroads were extending,
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the newspapers out and print media, and so all of
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a sudden in that era, news from the outside world
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starts to penetrate that walnut and it becomes a source
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that we cannot that right. We have to trust authorities,
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trust the newspaper, trust the print media. And what people
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really don't realize and I didn't either, was that that
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print media was essentially in the hands of the holders
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of wealth at the turn of the century and even
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before a little bit. But and and so they impacted
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the the ideas that were spread on that media platform.
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Well things interesting that that you do definitely see how
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propaganda fits in all of this. And and I've I've
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been fascinated with the whole of the whole issue of propaganda.
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And there was uh Edward World War One.
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Interestingly, point in fact, he was a nephew of versus
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he alone.
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If you look at so much that ls this country,
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my point of view is it all starts with socialism,
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and it all starts with Naziism.
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When you look at propaganda.
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And you look at how propaganda was used in our
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country and our society. A couple of examples when women smoking,
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women then you smoke until they start seeing pictures and
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then later movies and women smoking and that became a thing.
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Even the ray bands sunglasses, that was the thing, James
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Dean uh. And then also eating eggs and bacon for
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breakfast or just a special meal for breakfast altogether, that
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wasn't a thing until propaganda was used to promote these
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or even diamonds. Diamonds was just you know, uh, formulated
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cold until I guess uh, I forget the name of
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the of the diamond company. But they started promoting that
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as something to give your your your sweetheart, your wife.
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For us and then for for marriage.
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It became a thing and now your woman got to
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have a rock on the finger to fifth special. There's
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all these things that that propaganda has led us to
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do that we before or hence then do even cut
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the player doing.
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To your point, when that's applied to.
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Politics and changing culture, it becomes even more problematic, especially
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in the age as you related to where we're not
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as connected physically as we once were, where a lot
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of our history came down orally. A lot of people
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get at the one car history from the media sources or.
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Social media, and again it's not vetted.
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Okay. Can I go back to one thing that you
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said about Berne and we're talking about the manipulation and
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here's how they use experience. One of the things that
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he did. Are you familiar with the Tortures of Freedom campaign? Okay,
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So what he did was he got his secretary and
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a bunch of other young women to to do the
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Eastern Parade down New York City, you know, in New
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York City, and at a certain point where he designated
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by the way, he had a he had a background
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impress agentry before this, so this was like what they
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called a you know, like a stage craft. Okay, So
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they would create an event for media dissemination, and this
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was what he did. So he had the ladies march
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in the parade at a certain point in the in
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the parade where he had the news media located. They
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rolled up their skirts and took cigarettes out of their
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garter and began smoking them, and they were torches of freedom,
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and the thing was, you know, women, there was the idea, Yeah,
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I was pushing pushing this idea that there were there
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were groups of women who were just eager to smoke.
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And it wasn't because at that time, right, it was
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only bad women that smoked, right, not not respectable women.
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And so that they're here was so they So it's
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a that's where you can make manipulate experience because they're
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there was no horde of women clamoring to smoke from
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the respectable side. And he's putting that into the news
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as something false. Right, you can see, like fake news
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started way.
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Back, whether that's a genuine propaganda can be framed as
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particularly if you look at mine comp is one of
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those you got really love history to read minds comp
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because it's it's very dry read. But the famous part
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that everybody keep reggitating is, you know, tell tell, tell
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a lie enough, it becomes eventually stuff in the truth.
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And so propaganda is and that's as you related to
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the issue.
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With women smoking, that was something that was played over
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and over and over again, and then now everybody.
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Said it must be a good thing because hey, I
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saw it on TV.
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But in my.
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Community that has played such such a role. As I'm
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becoming more and more educated in regards to civil rights movement,
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so some muchster what has been presented to us to
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admire or look at ways of how the civil rights
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movement came about was all staged. For the most part,
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as far as i'm the rise of MLK and so
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many other leaders, it was all stage because you have
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to ask the question, well, these are the two people
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that were doing anything in nineteen sixties, you know, So
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if people don't start asking us the question, why him?
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And how did the media know to point this came
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over here and not over here?
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And how did they find this guy in the middle
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of nowhere walking a track to so called bring light
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to the stuggle of black nigros in America? How do
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they find him in the middle of nowhere? You know,
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just at the right moment where this big event happened.
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How you know, it's kind of kind of things that
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kind of goes back to the cigarette March and when
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you look at that and you see history piece itself
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over and over again.
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But if we don't history, you don't know, Hey, this
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is the rerun right exactly. Yeah, it's fascinating, it's pretty fascinating.
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So Ivy Lee, who was Rockefeller's first PR guy, right, uh,
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he writes a book. It was about nineteen twenty seven,
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and he talks about how they made they made quote
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quotes made a presidential candidate. And so he takes this
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guy who's in the business. His name is a forgotten
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name now because he didn't actually make the cut in
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the you know, in the primary, but they just basically
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pictured him as one of the guy. He was this
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guy backwards, guy from the Kentucky you know, and he
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took a picture of him there and he's hanging out
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with the guys, and then they had him. He won
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this award in the newspaper, and you could see how
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they were just putting him into the public consciousness and
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getting him you know, it's a trial balloon. Let's see
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if they'll like this guy. Right, like he said, where
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the spotlight was? You just said that when he was like, okay, like,
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whoever we shine the spotlight on, that's going to be
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the next great person. And they were doing that in
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nineteen twenty seven. So to your point, you know, in
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the civil rights they're sure they were well adapted at
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whoever they want to rise will rise and be a
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leader of the people whoever they want to keep off
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the screen. And again they did that. In my book,
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I show how the real reformers in the twenties early,
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you know, nineteenth century were kept or twentieth century rather
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were kept out of the media, essentially, Like Robert LaFollette
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was a great reformer out of Wisconsin, and he constantly
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had to battle the press that he was doing amazing
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things here. Tom Johnson in Cleveland was doing amazing things
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for governmental reform, but the Associated press would either you
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don't put them like on the back page, you know
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what I mean, or just you know, every once in
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a while they would report on them, but usually only
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when they did something dumb or something didn't work, and
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so they would they could preferentially bring anyone to the
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fore and keep anyone down. And that's where free speech
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comes in. You're like, we think we have free speech,
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but my contention to people, that's a piece of paper.
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Free speech is a piece of paper if we do
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not have the money to get reach right, so we
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can have this little tiny amplitude on the social receptor level, right,
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we can go a little tiny amplitude down here, but
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we can't get to any bigger amplitude so that the
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real leaders, those who really care about the people, the
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leaders that care about the sheep. Right, we're like sheep
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without a shepherd. The paople they elevate are not the
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people that are caring for us at all.
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I agree, I agree. Let me do a shameless to
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watch the blug here people who are looking for a
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way to.
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Definitely have uh escape pod when the economic collapse comes
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with the the dollarization of the world, definitely look at
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getting gold and silver. If you're not looked at the
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price of silver and where it was like ten years ago,
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need to go look that out and ask ask your
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question where you go be tens from now as far
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as your economics, go to my site. Check out the
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linked I had there for buying gold and silver. If
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you don't buy it there, get it from somewhere. You
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definitely want to have real constitutional money and somewhere in
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your portfolio. I'm not saying so your current portfoliout, but
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definitely has some part of the portfolio and real money
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because real money does not never go to zero.
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Okay, to your point, when you look at what has happened,
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Oh talk about Obama. He come out of nowhere.
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Yeah, people understand him and his place in the first election.
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Hillary wasps win.
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About betting on Hillary Clinton, Kenny rottom Clinton to win
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the presidential election.
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Obama came out of nowhere. Who's Obama? What's he stand for?
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Nobody knew? He was a blank canvas, some nobody from
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you know what they call that.
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All that a dark horse. Yes, then they can paint
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him exactly the way they want to paint him. Nobody
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really knows his background. He doesn't have a track record,
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a messy political track record that you now have the massage,
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and they have been using that label for a long
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time and they have specifically done it if you look
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back for the right. And that was actually one of
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the things that got me studying propaganda because I saw
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that and I thought, well, he's a junior senator. He
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doesn't have the experience to be leader of the free world,
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you know what I mean, what are they doing? They're
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just you know, packaging him to your point.
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But it's not just that, I mean, he wasn't the
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first that who's a dog horse? Because not president comes
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from I mean Jimmy Cartery.
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Right exactly. I was just thinking about him.
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So and so it's not just that is that he
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had no background, no background, and not only that, nobody
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immedia seemed to care about his background. That right, I
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definitely who's this man? What's what's his theology? His folks?
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Where did it come from? Trump questioned where he come from?
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And he was lambastard? But now, huh, maybe he wanted
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to crazy. So I think a lot of people could
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look at Obama because a lot of people are a
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lot more for meid with Obama and if they have
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some question, they could go back to look and basically,
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you know, look at what we're what we're.
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Saying, and see what we're saying is true or not.
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But in reality, people who went through that people have
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we visit that time in history.
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You could see this man coming came out of nowhere
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in the media couldn't care less about his background to Trump,
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where everybody want to dig everything up through his background
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and show short to the world.
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That's the way of that.
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I think people are take a moment and see how
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they be manipulated, because if they treat this site this way,
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at this site this way, you got asked a question,
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why why is Trump hated Mahn.
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To me, he's the most investigated man we ever had
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for president.
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I mean they're gone through every office, the cavity with
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meant body in political structure that and they yet to
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find anything wrong.
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But he's the bad guy.
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But when you look on the other side and you've
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got some serious questions with their ideology, at their background,
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at that character, mom's the word.
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It's very interesting.
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Again, it patient to the whole issue of propaganda and
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had how people being manipulated if they don't really have
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a firm foundation or what's true.
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And you know, there's so many trigger points in this
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twenty first century. You know, if you're on the left
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and somebody starts saying something on the right and it's
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a trigger point, and all of a sudden, you know,
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they can't even talk to each other. Right, It's like
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so in Fox News you had the kind of the
487
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I call the bifurcation of the public mind right before
488
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nineteen ninety six, Right, you had everybody drinking essentially from
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the same stream. Mainstream media was really all there was, right,
490
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and it was tracking a little bit left and creating
491
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a void a discontent in those who saw the nation's
492
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problems differently right, and so that created the the opening
493
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for something like a Fox News to be created, right,
494
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and so people who were more conservative leaning in their
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00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:25.119
ideology tracked that way and all the all media that
496
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came from that right and so so literally, let's say
497
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ninety six is twenty something years ago, right, that that's happened.
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And what you see is the absolute polarization of the
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right and the left now to the point where they
500
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can't even talk to each other. So you have it's
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like you're drawing from different facts and a completely different reality.
502
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So the right side is saying the left is the
503
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problem and the left is you know, I mean like
504
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if we could just get rid of the radical leftist,
505
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cultural Marxist et cetera, right, and then the ising we
506
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:02.960
could just get rid of the neo Nazi, white supremacists
507
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.480
and cultural Christian bigots, we'd be fine, right, And so
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east side is being taught that, you know, the other
509
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.359
side is the enemy, and you know, I think I
510
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think that's purposeful and it's really helpful. And what I
511
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:21.920
try to do to people, try not to do to people,
512
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take people is take them back historically and go, you know,
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they get what they want through both sides, right, and
514
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:35.279
realizing that that's been going on since late eighteen hundreds
515
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:39.759
or earlier, like since the Civil War. And so I
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do a brief historical review in this coming book. But
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00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:49.680
Matthew Josephson's a great resource for people. He wrote a
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book called Politicos and the Making of a President which
519
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.000
covers like from the Civil War to Rood War or
520
00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:01.039
Wilson sorry about that. And it's really insightful because you
521
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.200
just go back, there's no triggers and you start looking
522
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at history and how you know, they would just play
523
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.200
each side back and forth. And then the people that
524
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:12.759
that had something to gain from from manipulating the government,
525
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:17.759
like I could get privileges and grants, you know, the
526
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.279
holders of wealth. Right, I could get the tariffs the way.
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00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:20.720
I wanted on.
528
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.680
I could get this, you know, I could manipulate society
529
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:28.039
so that I could enrich myself. And so William Carey,
530
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.039
he was an Australian researcher, and he said this, there's
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three main movements in the twentieth centuries. Is the rise
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00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.759
of democracy, the rise of corporate power, and the rise
533
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:47.079
of corporate propaganda to protect against democracy, right and so
534
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.519
and and that's so that's pretty an interesting point of view.
535
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.359
And when I track this down, I'm trying to tease
536
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:59.680
away the pull on the strings that it's amazing that
537
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.519
the people who understood selling and advertising early in the
538
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:07.160
eighteenth century were the ones that started to galvanize and
539
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.599
bring together all these techniques of manipulation, and they were
540
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the ones that could afford these massive propaganda campaigns. And
541
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so if you get the next book that I have,
542
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:21.519
I'll give you three examples, like are you familiar with
543
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the Wilmington coup out of North Carolina? When it's a okay,
544
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.720
So what I what I show there is I give
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00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.079
three examples of how they were using these new techniques
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00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.960
to elect a president. William McKinley. They used, you know,
547
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:47.839
these pamphlets and a whole broad based publicity scheme. Right,
548
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:52.759
they sold a fare the World Fare Chicago Worldfare in
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00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:57.640
eighteen ninety three. McKinley was elected in eighteen ninety six.
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And these techniques were similar between each other, like you think, well,
551
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:04.839
electing a president is really different than selling affair. And
552
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.480
so what they had to do in eighteen ninety three
553
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:11.039
was Chicago was not an attractive it was sort of
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like a backwater midwestern town. I mean it was growing,
555
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:15.840
but you know, people would rather go to New York
556
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or Paris for a World's there, and so they had
557
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:22.039
to overcome that reputation. They used They had a mailing
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list of forty thousand, okay, a mailing list of forty
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thousand at the time. They spent upwards of one thousand
560
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:32.920
dollars a day sometimes in mailing lists, in promotional materials, lithograms,
561
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news articles, indirect news articles. Which was that stunt that
562
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:42.159
stagecraft type thing, right, And you realize all these techniques
563
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:48.000
are very similar across whatever they're selling, they're they're very similar.
564
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.320
So they spent millions of dollars and it was highly successful,
565
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.480
drawing people from Europe who had not only to cross
566
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the sea, but then go inland halfway into the country,
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which we it's a real it was a real journey.
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00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:07.199
And so you know, I show in these iterations how
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00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.440
it didn't matter. They learned how to sell commodities first,
570
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like flower, like you know, flower was flower. The flower
571
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.159
was flower. You couldn't make it a better flower. And
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so once they learned how to do that, then they
573
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.840
moved to selling events like P T Barnum and the
574
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buff wild Bills Buffalo Bill Cody, Wild Bill Cody, and
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they used these same technique. Then they sold like the
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00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:35.239
fair just to give like examples in categories. And then
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they started selling a president and they realized, hey, we
578
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:44.719
can sell men and measures, politicians and policies, and so
579
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:50.320
that whole technological skill set started to rise at the
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turn of the century and they realized they didn't.
581
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:58.599
I think that you're kind of staying this. I want
582
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to make it clear to the listeners. Selling is one thing.
583
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:10.480
Propaganda in the way that we're forming it in regards
584
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:15.639
to Obama or women's smoking such as that, that's another level.
585
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:22.440
No, that's what that's not. No, actually, no, I'm saying.
586
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:27.320
I'm saying it's almost a seamless progression from the eighteen hundred,
587
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which which is shocked me. Right, It's like because, okay,
588
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:36.360
so why I brought the Wilmington thing is they sold
589
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.800
ideology there. So that was the Wilmington Cup of eighteen
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ninety eight. So Wilmington, a lot of the African Americans
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00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.760
were going to Wilmington, and they were doing really well
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00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:48.639
in their business, and.
593
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:57.360
So African American okay, you know, don't say black black
594
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is good.
595
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:01.840
Okay, whatever you want, I'm there, okay. So the blacks
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were galvanizing in Wilmington, North Carolina, and they had had
597
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:10.280
been doing really good and they joined with a disaffected
598
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:16.119
kind of farmer white population to create the Fusion Party.
599
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.440
And the people down there were the business entities, were
600
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.199
not happy. This was not going to be a black
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00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:27.599
ruled area, right black or.
602
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:28.119
You know what I mean.
603
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:33.000
It was going to be democrat period. And so what
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00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:36.280
they did is this, this guy called the Furnifold Simmons
605
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:46.320
created this campaign of writers, writers and speakers. Okay, So
606
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:50.239
speakers went on the speakers circuit, using local influence to
607
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.679
influence the population, and it was all targeted against the blacks.
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The black's not going to rule over us. They preferentially
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00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:01.679
brought up blacks preying on white women. It was a
610
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:06.719
super damaging campaign. The writers took up. So as you
611
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:10.360
had speakers, writers, those putting things in newspapers, complete lies
612
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and fictions about you know, what happened in Charlotte versus
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00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.239
something over here. And then they did the last thing
614
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:22.880
was writers, and that was they were red red shirts, okay,
615
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:24.639
and they were going to be there in the on
616
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:28.079
the polls to intimidate people, and so like it's funny
617
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because you know, like, oh, we used brown shirts in Hitler.
618
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:32.400
What's with the shirts?
619
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:32.880
You know what I mean?
620
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:35.360
Red shirts? These were the guys who were on They
621
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.639
were sort of the muscle behind this and in case
622
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.440
people thought they were going to vote and really get
623
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:42.480
free from whatever they were getting free from. No, no,
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00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:44.679
we're gonna have these guys sort of make sure that
625
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.599
backing that up. So it's again it's a it's it's
626
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:51.960
free online if you look up. Charlotte, North Carolina did
627
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.320
a study finally, like in It's not too long ago
628
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.920
nineteen o eight maybe or nineteen two thousand an eight.
629
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:05.239
I think maybe that brought up this whole history. And
630
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:10.079
so in other words, this campaign was done for months
631
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:16.840
before the election, and and they murdered people in Wilmington
632
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that day, drove the leaders out of town, the black newspaper, okay,
633
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:27.360
drove that, burned the building, and they set in the
634
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.199
people that they wanted the Democratic Party, and then they
635
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.920
caused the other people to basically just resign and flee.
636
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:39.480
It's more than that, well, I guess because Berneze came
637
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:42.519
out of World War One, and he's considered to be
638
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:44.440
the fault of propaganda, but he's not.
639
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:48.760
Well, well, I guess that's that's what I want.
640
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.599
I want to clarify because to me, America is different because,
641
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:57.800
as people say, you can't go anywhere without something being
642
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.199
sold to you. Uh So selling is I guess, a
643
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:05.559
way of manipulation, maybe giving you to buy something that
644
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you will not ordinarily buy.
645
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:11.280
But I to me, it's the context, it's the meaning
646
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why behind that. I think when you look at how
647
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propaganda and when I say a different level, I mean
648
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:21.800
I'm not saying that they're not from the same family.
649
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:23.159
I'm saying propaganda.
650
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:28.280
It's a different level because now it's manipulating, not just
651
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:33.639
a do you bies red sugar compared toives? Right?
652
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:37.639
And now women who never smoke before, I'm gonna get
653
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:38.119
you to smoke.
654
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:38.719
Right.
655
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.440
We used to not be authority society. We had Disney clups.
656
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:45.760
Okay, but wait, so let me just back up.
657
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:48.000
So what's the difference to you?
658
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:51.480
Okay, there is no difference, That's what That's what's amazing. Like,
659
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:54.039
I don't know if you can see this, Okay.
660
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:56.320
I can see if I can't read it, though, Oh yeah.
661
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:58.599
Well experiences in the middle. Okay, So what you were
662
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:04.840
just saying about the smoking, So so that was Brene's
663
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.480
used experience and and and when you think about modern
664
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:13.880
day marketing campaigns, experience is just so it's like proving
665
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.280
that the thing works. It's like before and after. Right,
666
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:19.039
you see the person who's overweight whatever, and now he
667
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.280
looks like this or she looks like this. Right, So
668
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:25.000
that's here's your eyes. Trust your eyes see this, look
669
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:28.360
at the dramatic transformation, right, or it's some sort of scientific,
670
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.719
scientific proof that something works. So that's really experience, right.
671
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:35.760
You're being sold something with experience. See, it is different, right,
672
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.639
And then you're going to go to as scene on right,
673
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:43.320
as seen on CNN or whatever it is that you trust, right,
674
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:47.039
And that's the authority, right, that's the that's the one
675
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:49.039
you brought up with the doctor smoking.
676
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:49.280
Right.
677
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:51.599
Oh, the doctors think that mental is the best thing
678
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:55.480
right back in the day, So that you trusted the doctors, right,
679
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:57.599
And then and then you know, when you're at a
680
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:00.199
website and you're purchasing it says, oh, somebody just bought
681
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:01.079
in Alabama.
682
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:01.800
Oh, somebody just.
683
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:06.000
Bought in right, And or all the reviews. That's social proofs.
684
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.760
Everybody's doing this, everybody loves it. Okay, So that triangle
685
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.000
that I talked about, experience, authority, social pressure is hugely
686
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:19.639
influential for selling anything, even ideologies, Okay, which is like
687
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:23.440
mind blowing to us. Okay that a lot of these these.
688
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:29.760
I'm just saying that before Beneze, the auto selling was
689
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a form of propaganda.
690
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.639
Yes, And here's what. Here's one of the things that
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that made me really curious. So when I read how
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we advertised America, which was every or not everybodee, but
693
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but a creole, right, who's just really a journalist. He
694
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:48.039
kind of gets It's kind of like Obama. It's like
695
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.199
what did he like? He like, like, you think, how
696
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.960
the hell did he put this thing? Excuse me, you know,
697
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:55.400
how do you put this thing together?
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00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:56.199
Right?
699
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:58.719
Because he takes six million dollars there's a six million
700
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.840
dollar presidential slush fund from Woodrow Wilson, and all of
701
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:07.480
a sudden he steps on the scene and you know, bam,
702
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:13.760
you know there's posters, signboards. He pays historians to write
703
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.960
print books. They do, not fictional books, supposedly fictional books.
704
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:24.960
Christine was a highly influential propaganda book. They do exhibitions locally,
705
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:28.920
they co op local leadership and create the four minute men, right,
706
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.840
which was speakers locally they would just get up and
707
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.840
say they would get talking points from Washington. They would
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practice their speech. It was supposed to be only four
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minutes long, and then like let's say they were at
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a church meeting or in between the real change at
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00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.400
the movies, they would stand up and give these heartfelt speech,
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but they were talking points from Washington. And they even
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00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.239
created junior minute men like little kids could do this,
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00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:57.360
and they created materials into the schools. Every known way
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of influencing man was And I sat back and I went,
716
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how did he know how to do that? Well, when
717
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I did the research into stelling, all those techniques were
718
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already there. He didn't just I thought that, what amazing, guy,
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I thought, that's just it's a model. It's like a
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turtle on a fence post. How would you have known
721
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all that and just pulled that It was already a
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very well developed body of knowledge. Going back to like
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I said, late eighteen hundreds from from Europe, right, Lebonn
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wrote The Crowd, a Study of the popular mind in
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late eighteen hundreds, with a lot of your audience maybe
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or yourself familiar with that book. It was all there,
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and he stepped into it. And like people like Carl
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Beneze and Ivy League who were already using some of
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these techniques, you know, guys that were involved in political campaigns.
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George not Perkins, I forget it's actually the last name,
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but you know, those guys stepped in where they were
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underneath him, but they were the guys with the real knowledge,
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and he was just the figurehead.
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I guess maybe I'm going a difference in the application.
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Because even before Bernet's because there was people being sold to.
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I mean, this was this is the magic event back then,
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and you know, especially doing political campaigns. You know, the
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the the whole selling Democrat party to the Negro community
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at that time, the Democrat so they were trying to
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persuade Negroes to vote Democrat. And there's this one fame
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famous picture that that remember this young black boy next
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to the flag and he had frisks balled up in.
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Sense who's who's a Democrat? You know, like he's getting
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ready to fight.
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That's something that you can't even imagine these days because
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you know, or whatever reason at eighty per But I
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guess I guess again, it's it's it's the it's it
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was a wide behind like the nations propaganda was definitely
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meant to.
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Change the culture.
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Like I guess you could say all sales are designed
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to change a culture to some degree, either the culture
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in your home or the culture in the community, or
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culture of a nation. But I just think it's at
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a different level when you look at how commercialism is.
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It's really got people as as you mentioned, we're hating
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family members just because we hate we don't like the
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particular presidices of candidate, not anything necessarily, particularly when you
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talk about people from their left hating Trump for whatever reason,
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they cannot tell you one thing that they hate Trump
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for doing for the most part, So it's putting out
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and personality has been formed through the media, through the experts,
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so to speak, and we heard all doing COVID trust expert, trust,
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expert trust, don't trust your lying eyes, trust expert, trust, expert.
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Don't matter that fifty thousand people die of lung cancer
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each year and we're not shtting up drumming for that.
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Never mind all that expert say this is like the
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boutbonic plague. Everybody running shutting yourself into it for sixty days.
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Don't get no sign, don't get no air. Oh, by
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the way, that's what killed the most virus is such
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shine of air.
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But don't any of that. You know.
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That the whole probaganda behind that change people's mindset, how
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the view not just.
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What how they see things in the only little world.
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But they projected that out to now is I'm gonna
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beat it my neighbor because he or she's not wearing
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a mask.
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You know, I want to save them, not really because
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than a harmie.
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But you're doing it because you start on TV somewhere
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and they gave you sputs say this, we.
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Gave us to be wearing as mass well to your
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whole you know, question with boldness, right, So as the
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world becomes more complex, people don't trust the fact that
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they you know, these are experts. What do I know
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about virology?
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You know?
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I mean most people will defer, and that's why it's
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so easy to be manipulated, you know, And you think, well,
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if I'm questioning VIRL scientists and virologists, I mean, that's
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what they came out with real early, like are we
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going to trust the science?
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Right?
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And so it just oh, that was a sacrosanct and
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couldn't be couldn't be questioned. It was not manipulated by
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money or anything like that, right, And so you know,
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but we're sort of in a rock and a hard
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place too, right, because so much of the world is
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more complicated that and and we have you know, less
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local leaders and less dissidant voices, much less dissident voices
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that are that are you know again they're they're they're
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castated in the print, right and the media, so that
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that if anybody says anything differently, I mean, you know,
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you know, the whole it's like a Horz or Howitzer,
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you know what I mean getting trained on that person
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and they just get blown up, you know, or their
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career derailed and so and so that's I guess why
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I keep taking people back in history, because like we're
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at uh, you know, fifth generation warfare, here at propaganda,
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and if you understand contextually, you know, our history and
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the background. How actually along this this technology has been
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around like I say, one hundred and twenty five years
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at least, if not more. And then you start to
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see how it's created each time, and the patterns, just
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like you try to teach patterns. See these things repeat
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over and over and over again and again, you can
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they they do it, they go across you know, it's
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it's really a selling function, but it's part of the
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innate nature of man like experience, authority, social credit. That's
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sort of innate in us. We're herd animals. So and again,
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as a society becomes more complex, we have to rely
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on those things more and more, and they're like dials
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on a little machine that can be easily manipulated, especially
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because you know, we've got something in our hands twenty
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for seven. It has access to us, access to our
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ear and how much local pushback right Like even churches
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now are much weaker, like as far as countering narratives,
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you know what I mean, like we don't or people
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don't go and they don't trust the pastor or something
831
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like that. So we're really limited as sheep, who do
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we have to really trust in this environment? And again,
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if you know how they've been manipulating all across time,
834
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then you're much more capable of going okay, now stepping
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back and going yeah, I've seen this. You know, you know,
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hats off to you doing what you're doing. And it's
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partly why I'm doing what I'm doing is to just
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say we've got this is almost one of the most
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important problems in the world today because right, we can't
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see reality. We don't know where evil is, right, really
841
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don't know where evil is. And so like Kent Cooper
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who wrote this book called Barriers down in about mid
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mid twentieth century, and they had taken the ascendancy of
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being the main news gathering agency. And so there's news
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and then there's news gathering, and it makes complete sense. Right,
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So if I'm a newspaper and I have to gather
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news from the world, I have to put a reporter.
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It's expensive.
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Right.
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You can easily see that that would get really expensive
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for one newspaper. So the idea came, Okay, well we'll
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we'll create this entity that has these people all over
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and then we'll syndicate that news. Okay, so that but
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you can can you see the centralization and the power
855
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in that so Ken Cooper says, he says, the power
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to tell one nation, uh what it will know about
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another nation is the greatest power in the world, right,
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because I'm gonna set because how can you how can
859
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you tell what Russias are doing right or or Chinese
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or whatever, But we have no way to get that.
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So whatever trickle trickles out, it's going to set that
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mood and tone toward that country, and and and many
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other things as well. But he was right, he said,
864
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it's the most important monopoly of all the monopolies, Like
865
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you know, you have resource monopoly, and it's the most
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important monopoly. Is this communication system that once they gather
867
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the news from the world. You know, now, he says,
868
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it's true and unbiased news, right, And and your audience
869
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should remember that. Whenever technology comes out, it's always present
870
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as something like look at Google, Like Google was great, okay,
871
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so we're gonna streamline your search and give you good,
872
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good results, right, And they do at first. Right now
873
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it's being really manipulated. Right, So down the road it's
874
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highly manipulated, but at first it's pretty trustworthy. And so
875
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the Associated Press was pretty unbiased because they were going
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into journals that were conservative or papers that were conservative
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and people papers that were you know, more liberal or democrat,
878
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and so they had to just keep it really bare bones, right,
879
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:41.719
just the you know the facts, right, But he says
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00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.119
this in his book. He says, this is the last
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chapter in his book truth dot dot dot the best propaganda,
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And he says, the purer the stream, it's axiomatic that
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the purer of the stream, the easier a little bit
884
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:59.400
of taint can be injected that no one will know about, okay,
885
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.920
And so's it's like, yes, exactly. And there were people
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already in the early nineteen hundreds, like William Kittle and
887
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some of the other reporters and journalists that realized that, yes,
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in fact, the Associated press was highly biased, especially like
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against labor and the strikers. They always always gave it,
890
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:25.599
gave the benefit and colored the story to make to
891
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:29.920
make those guys as male contents, violent extremists and people
892
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:32.840
that were going to unravel the whole fabric of society
893
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versus the holders of wealth were always you know, doing
894
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the right thing. And so that alone is a way
895
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to skew people, you know, against against labor. It was
896
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easy to do, and they were already talking about it
897
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in the early twentieth century. So now you know, just
898
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like Google, it was pretty trustworthy in the beginning. Now,
899
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I mean we don't even know, you know, in a
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lot of cases, like you know, we don't even know
901
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.480
what are the fact So just as for example, that
902
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.840
issue of doge. Okay, so doge came in and if
903
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you were on the right, they only had read access,
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right you were like, that's where you were being told,
905
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and on the left you're being told, well, no, they're
906
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they're they're just siphoning out the database and giving it
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to the corporations.
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How do we know?
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I mean really, I mean it's like almost two sets
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of facts about reality are being pumped, you know, pushed
911
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out into the environment, which is again why I don't
912
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try to interact with people about current events, because it's
913
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almost impossible, you know what I mean, they're getting different
914
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facts right right.
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My last shameless commercial for anyone who's questioning, seeking for facts.
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You and you asked yourself the question, why is my
917
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grandfather able to buy his Mustang as fifty five thousand
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00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.599
dollars and not that same call costs five hundred fifty
919
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thousand dollars fifty thousand?
920
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What changed the value of the medium that you're using us?
921
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:02.960
The item what do you see going up?
922
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:07.360
Gold and silver measure the time gold and silver to
923
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:10.880
the dollar in nineteen sixty five and see the difference.
924
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Take action.
925
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Go to my site check out the information on how
926
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you get into the Golden Siling game, if not from there,
927
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getting into the game somehow. Because the truth and history
928
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don't lie. It's only how we see the truth and
929
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see history. That's the unknown.
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Thank you. One more question.
931
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When you look at America and you say that it
932
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is the most propagandized, I know I agree to that.
933
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Do you see that as a good thing or a
934
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bad thing or where do you see it ended up?
935
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Oh? I definitely see it as a bad thing. It's
936
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you know, it's it has basically skewed our whole version
937
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of history and seeing ourselves. One of my mottos for
938
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this year is true hope begins when illusions end. And
939
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a friend of mine related to me the story of
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that plane that went down in the Andes Mountains in
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nineteen seventy two, that Andy's crash, and they he was
942
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relating that they were able to fix the radio. So
943
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there was broken radio that they got working, and so
944
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they were sitting around and they heard the worst news
945
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that they could possibly hear was that the search for
946
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:39.039
them had been called off. Okay, so nobody wants to
947
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hear that news, right, that's true.
948
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That's what was the Andys crash.
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Well, it was just a plane that went down in
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the Andyes, and they ended up resorting to cannibalism to
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say themselves. So that's how it got kind of a.
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Pardon didn't miss movie about that.
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Yeah, I said, I remember the people up there in
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the mountains, okay, Yeah, So.
955
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Anyways, they're stranded deep there in the Andes Mountains, and
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so they're around the radio and they hear the worst
957
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news they could possibly hear. Nobody's coming to rescue you. Okay,
958
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But that, in fact was actually what they needed to
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hear more than anything, because if they didn't take action
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at that point, they would have been lost. If they
961
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sat there waiting, they would have gotten their strengths, reserves
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would have gotten you know. And then I think it
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was late. I think it was in the fall, and
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so it would be deeper and deeper into winter. They
965
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:38.480
ended up walking out, you know, they ended up you know,
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00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:43.360
getting enough materials together and strengthening themselves and making it
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00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.800
out enough to get to get rescued to a place
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00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:48.320
that could get rescued. So but that's kind of my
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00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:50.480
motto for the year. And we have a lot of
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00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:54.320
illusions about this country and democracy. Like what I said earlier,
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00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:57.360
I said, you know, we don't really have free speech
972
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.000
because people that have great ideas and people that are
973
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.840
talking about root problems are not. And that's probably how
974
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:07.519
you control a democracy from behind the scenes, is you know,
975
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:10.599
these are the problems. Everybody's told are the problems, but
976
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:14.639
actually the real problems. Like I have a little I
977
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:16.000
don't know if they have it, and then you probably
978
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:17.599
can't see it anyways, but I have a tree. I
979
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:22.239
call it the monopoly tree, and on the leaves are
980
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:24.000
all these problems that we're trying to fix, like maybe
981
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:27.000
digital ideas coming, you know what I mean, maybe immigration things,
982
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:29.679
and you know whatever, they're on the tree. And then
983
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:32.960
and underneath there's there's a monopoly of the news media.
984
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:36.679
There's a monopoly of the banking system. There's a monopoly
985
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:38.960
you know, kind of at the university system, right, a
986
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:42.800
lot of public private partnerships, and there's all these monopolies
987
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:46.719
down here, and there's centralized control so that we the
988
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:49.880
people don't get our voices heard, so you can pluck
989
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:53.360
the things off the tree. But essentially those roots are
990
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:59.440
still there, all the power and wealth and and even
991
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:04.119
like I an ideological syndicate, right, so it lacks your
992
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:07.920
mind into certain, you know, a certain frame. And so
993
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:11.079
without getting out of that frame, which is again question
994
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:14.440
boldly which you which you're constantly saying, getting out of
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01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:17.199
that frame will help you see. But but all the money,
996
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:19.519
all the money coming up through the bottom of that
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01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:23.639
tree is there to you know, continue the path that
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01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:29.199
we're already on. And so, uh, you know, it's it's
999
01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:31.519
a it's a huge thing. And without looking at the
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01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:34.719
real roots of the problem, we're never gonna we can start.
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01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:36.880
We can try to block things of different areas, but
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01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:40.360
we as as just the people, the rank and file
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01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:43.199
really globally, not just in the United States, because it's
1004
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:46.119
coming down the pike really quickly in terms of you know,
1005
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:49.559
kind of snapping the pieces together for world government essentially,
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01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.320
which would give us less and less, you know, less
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01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:54.920
and less of a voice than we already have.
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01:00:56.320 --> 01:01:00.119
So you throw a nugg a bit out there in
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01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:03.840
the course to how we're going down the path of
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01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:08.920
or government. What is your opinion and how do you
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01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:15.559
see this being used to bring forth the adbodishment of
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paper currency.
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01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:26.400
Yeah, they've got that's that's a system that's being phased out, right.
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01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:29.159
So when they brought in Brenton Woods, I mean, they
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01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:32.679
did certain things back then when they were creating the
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01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:37.480
petro dollar, right and and so now you know the
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01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:40.559
dollar is so inflated, right, and we're suffering from that.
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01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.119
Now all the coronavirus dollars that we're just thrown out
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01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:49.159
into the environment are coming back to haunt us, excuse me,
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01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:56.159
and so yeah, that that they have to come up
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01:01:56.199 --> 01:01:59.960
with another method, and that's the digital money that will track.
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01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:03.679
It won't actually be money, it'll be you know, like
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01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:07.119
credit at the at the country store, you know. And
1024
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:10.119
and so it can be turned off, it can be surveilled,
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01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:13.760
it could be you know, programmed to be only used
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01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:17.880
for certain things, which is an amazing control system.
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Though it sounds good, doesn't I mean it's everybody want convenience.
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01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:28.920
Right oh god, yeah, right, no money, right, no, yeah,
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01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:31.440
I know. And the kids are using their phone now just.
1030
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:33.760
Love it because they ain't got to carry the waws
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01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:35.920
of cast that we did when I was growing up.
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01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:38.719
So this is so much better for everybody who needs
1033
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:40.119
that dirty nasty money.
1034
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:44.199
Yeah right, it's again germs carries germs everything. I know,
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01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:46.039
I hear you. No, I mean.
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01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:48.960
Carry that dirty money out.
1037
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:53.199
Well think about it, though, You're gonna be totally blocked
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01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:55.679
out from any means of exchange, right if you're gonna
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01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:57.880
if you're like on a you know, like let's say
1040
01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:01.039
I just want to do a garage sale, right, you know,
1041
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:04.199
and I'm not. I don't have a phone to take money.
1042
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:06.960
I can't sell anything, and so you know, yeah, no,
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01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:10.039
I it's it's a Your audience knows this. You've been
1044
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:14.000
already hammered on this. So yeah, they're they're fast coming
1045
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:17.320
coming to the place where that's locking into place, even
1046
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:21.199
across countries, right, and look at the coronavirus response, right
1047
01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:25.239
across countries that seemingly have different ideologies are falling in line,
1048
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:28.920
hook line and sinker with the digital money or the
1049
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:33.199
digital ID and the you know, the pandemic rules that
1050
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:34.920
are going to come from a like a you know,
1051
01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:39.960
the who basically in the next pandemic that they've got planned.
1052
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:45.360
So yeah, we've got issues, and you know what, black, white,
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01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:49.400
Asian whatever, we've got to get together, even left right,
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01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.599
we've got to get together and see the enemy is
1055
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:55.719
snapping these things in from the top, not this.
1056
01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.480
Way, right managers. Also, I always say that what we
1057
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:01.960
got more in common during.
1058
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:04.880
Dude, absolutely so, so long as we can stand on
1059
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:08.280
the flag, stand on mechanism, and stand on God.
1060
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:13.920
I mean those two platforms, those two fundamental beliefs. I
1061
01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:15.800
don't care what color you are. I don't care if
1062
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:18.719
you're gay, don't care. I don't care you woman, black
1063
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:19.079
and brown.
1064
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:21.559
If we can stand on those three things, you got
1065
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:24.039
my back, I got yours with with that question. And
1066
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:27.280
all we gotta do is have a conversation, realize how
1067
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:32.880
much we do have in common, even in today's overly propagandized,
1068
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:36.760
politicized environment.
1069
01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:39.079
That's what they don't want us to do.
1070
01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:43.960
Have a conversation about what do we see because there's
1071
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.840
nothing wrong with green green Who disagree, you know, but
1072
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:49.119
at least you have a conversation first, So then I
1073
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:51.920
don't hate you so much because now you as a
1074
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:58.440
human being with all we don't necessarily agree with with
1075
01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:02.519
with these other opinions, but now I know better what
1076
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:03.320
you believe.
1077
01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:07.079
And depends on how the stream it is will tell
1078
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:09.320
me whether I need to look out for you going forward.
1079
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:13.639
But of us are on that real stream level. A
1080
01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:16.079
lot of us are just as you say, just don't
1081
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:17.039
know any better.
1082
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:21.440
Yeah, And so you know, one of the things that
1083
01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:23.440
I did with this book is I made a study
1084
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:26.440
guide with the first book. And you know, you can't
1085
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:29.679
teach this stuff to somebody's kid, you know, it's it's
1086
01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:31.760
a different you know. I mean, you've got to help them.
1087
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:34.719
You've got to as a parent, get get educated yourself
1088
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:37.480
on our own history and the rise of this sort
1089
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:42.239
of technique and skills. Okay, and and then teach your kids,
1090
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:44.639
because if you give them a phone at whatever age
1091
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:47.679
they you know, they're not like that homage culture, you'll
1092
01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:50.480
lose your kid, right, You'll lose the influence. And a
1093
01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:53.000
lot of cases, we are losing the influence from parent
1094
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:55.880
to kid on how to raise them and mold them
1095
01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:58.440
into the way you know that you would prefer as
1096
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:02.480
a parent. And so I created the book and a
1097
01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:05.280
study guide so that you could sit down and in
1098
01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:08.519
twelve lessons, you know what I mean, with some readings
1099
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:11.400
from the book and some extra readings, you can get
1100
01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:14.519
a good handle on all that. And I made it simple,
1101
01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:16.320
you know, for that reason and then the second book.
1102
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:17.599
I don't know if I'm gonna do a study guide,
1103
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.880
but we'll see. It's the same way. It's taking you
1104
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:23.159
back to Hey, look at this era. These are the
1105
01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:25.840
books that you should read, you know, to to like,
1106
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:28.360
not the books, okay, because this is a way to
1107
01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:32.480
look at it. Okay, I'm not like, but you know,
1108
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:37.159
here's here's several that you could take from and if
1109
01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:39.320
you just read one from each air because there's nothing
1110
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:40.719
like and I see you know, you have the books
1111
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:44.440
all behind there. There's nothing like learning it yourself, right,
1112
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:46.719
versus learning it from somebody else. So I'm laying out
1113
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:50.679
the forty thousand view picture of the development of these
1114
01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:53.960
sort of techniques over the course of the late eighteen
1115
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:56.920
mid to late eighteen hundreds up until now. And if
1116
01:06:56.960 --> 01:06:59.679
you have that context, oh my gosh, I mean, it's
1117
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:01.800
so much stronger than just you know what I mean.
1118
01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:04.119
It's and you can do it and use it with
1119
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:07.800
conversations with people where you know, if you talk about
1120
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:09.960
current events, it's gonna you know, there's gonna be friction,
1121
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:13.320
but you can take them back and keep keep taking
1122
01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:17.679
them back to a non polarized or land mind filled
1123
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:20.840
area and when we can talk, we can start to talk.
1124
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:24.320
So I think what you're doing is is wonderful. Keep
1125
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:24.639
it up.
1126
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:30.079
Yeah, with with with what you're doing. Former physical table, right,
1127
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:36.960
come back girl. So yeah, So tell people how to
1128
01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:41.639
follow you, how I connect with you, how you on
1129
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:42.400
your path.
1130
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:47.440
Okay. So I have a smart substack called smart Sheep.
1131
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:51.840
So it's s H E E P E. So there's
1132
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:52.599
another E on it.
1133
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:53.119
Okay.
1134
01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:54.800
Of course you can look at my name and then
1135
01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:58.119
I have a website at w W smart sheep dot
1136
01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:01.519
com and you can sign up for the newsletter. You'll
1137
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:03.480
know when I'm coming out with the next book, should
1138
01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:05.800
be within a month. And I've got a guy great
1139
01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:07.760
making some great diagrams that are going to be really
1140
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:11.599
helpful to explain things for people. Plus the histories there,
1141
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:15.079
the references are there. You can dig in deeper, and
1142
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:17.079
I just think it's it's going to be a really
1143
01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:20.720
good resource for people narrowing right in on this topic,
1144
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:23.079
not going and not going too deep, but but keeping it,
1145
01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:25.840
keeping it, you know, at that high level. And so
1146
01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:29.039
those are the two places that I am. And again
1147
01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:31.199
I love to just you know, anytime you want to
1148
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:33.600
have me back on and you know deep further and
1149
01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:37.399
I can give you too, Tony. If you want advanced
1150
01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:40.520
review copy, you just let me know after this and
1151
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:44.479
I'll get you the PDF and for both books to
1152
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:45.600
be honest with you, if you want to take a
1153
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:46.079
look at them.
1154
01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:49.119
Yeah yeah, yeah, definitely, so definitely don't go nowhere. When
1155
01:08:49.159 --> 01:08:52.760
when when we signed off with this information? So everyone,
1156
01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:59.800
as I always say, ask questions, Ask questions. The truth
1157
01:08:59.840 --> 01:09:02.800
is out there. You got to ask the questions. What
1158
01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:05.600
it's just not That comedy is a lock. It don't
1159
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:07.960
open if you turn it and put it on the
1160
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:11.039
on the wone number. You gotta find out what the
1161
01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:13.000
true number is to open and open up that lock,
1162
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.439
because we need to open up that lock, real real,
1163
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:19.319
real quick, because the change is coming. The change is coming.
1164
01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:22.920
So the next time, be blessed, be good, be free.
1165
01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:42.159
Thanks for listening to today's show, and don't forget to
1166
01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:45.760
like and subscribe to this podcast and look for Project
1167
01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:49.600
third Eye Open on your favorite social media platforms. Check
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01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:53.640
out our web page at Projectthirdeyeopen dot com and that's
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01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:57.960
third I with the letter I Project Thirdeyeopen dot com.
1170
01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:03.119
Drop us a note at Tony el at Projectthirdiyopen dot com.
1171
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:08.600
That's Tony el at projectthirdiyopen dot com. As you wait
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01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:13.600
for our next podcast to drop, don't take anything we've satisfact. Instead,
1173
01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:17.720
do your own homework, make up your own mind, then
1174
01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:23.720
take action until next time. Be blessed, be good, and
1175
01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:24.640
be free.
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Our foundering fathers here in this country, brought about the
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only true revolution that has ever taken place in man's history.
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Evolve the idea that you and I have within ourselves,
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the god given right and the ability to determine our
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own destiny.
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The United States of America the greatest nation in history,
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ordained by our founders to be guided by divine providence,
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but today we are witnessing the orchestrated disintegration of America.
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Take a few seconds and take a look around your town,
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your state, look at your country and your world, and
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boldly ask what in the hell is going on?
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
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We didn't pass it on to our children in the bloodstream.
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The only way they can inherit the freedom we have
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known is if we fight for it, protect it, defend.
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It, and then hand it to them with the well.
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Taught lessons of how they in their lifetime. Let's do
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the same.
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Welcome to the podcast Project Third Eye Open, where we
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dare to question with boldness the events that are unfolding
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around us that others won't. At the end of the day,
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it is we the people who will decide the destiny
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of the nation. Now introducing your host Tony L.
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Grit Tans, gre teens, great teas.
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So we have with us today.
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Michelle styles sh By profession of physical therapists. But when
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she goes into the booth and come back out with
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the capeon, she is someone who describes herself as someone's
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be able to simplify the complex and make it simple,
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kind of like what I try to do. So based
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on that that we have a very good dialogue here.
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She's she's working on the second or three trilogies. The
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first one was One Idea to Rule Them All, Reverse
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Engineering American Propaganda.
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That's her first book.
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She's currently working on her second, One Versus is the
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One Idea Rule Them All Reverse Engineering Democracy Theater Straight
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from the Great State of Arizona Styles.
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Hi, Tony, thanks for having me on. I'm excited to,
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you know, just talk with you today and and have
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a great conversation with you know, with your audience being
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here to listen.
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So tell the force to bout you a little bit. Well.
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Yeah, as as you noted, I am a physical therapist
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by trade, and as your models as question, boldly that's
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what I did, and it led me down a rabbit hole.
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I started seventeen years ago. Essentially, I saw some things.
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I saw some corruption on a local level what was
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generally considered it to me a smaller ant hill, you know,
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if you want to say it like that. And I
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thought Washington has to be just pathetic at this point,
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you know. And so there were a couple other things
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at the time. But I just in my mind, I said,
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I'm going to study propaganda, you know. I kind of
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felt like God said that to me, actually, But and
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it was just out of the blue, like because you think,
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why would I, you know, why would I do this?
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But I just started reading and I picked up George
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Creole's How We Advertised America. George Creole was the head
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of the Committee on Public Information, if you're familiar with that,
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and it was his book Post Opal, you know, Post
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after the Operation, and he was saying, you know, look,
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look what we did. You know, we advertised America and
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spread the gospel of Americanism to the rest of the world.
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And I thought, you know, you know, as they started
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reading it, you know, they basically advertised the war, right,
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and I thought, you know, you either have good reasons
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to go to war or you don't. I mean, that
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was in my naive mind, and I said, what's this
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about advertising war? Of course it smacks you really wrong, right,
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like you shouldn't be advertising or selling a war. And
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so I would, you know, say to people, did you
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did you know this? I mean, do you know that?
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I mean, I maybe I slept through my history, social
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science classes or whatever. But I wasn't really aware of
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all that had been done in World War One, and
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so I asked I started just to dig apart the pieces.
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And the neat thing for me was is that not
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having to be siloed in anyone academic discipline made it
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possible for me to just veer over here into communications
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or journalism or psychology or sociology and just kind of
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follow the trail of, you know, wherever my questions led me.
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So that's just a little bit about me and how
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I kind of got to doing this odd thing that
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I'm doing. And the second book is what he actually done.
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It's ready to come live as soon as I get
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the diagrams completed. And I love to sort of again
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in that idea of simplifying things, you know, kind of
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showing in a in a and then my book, my
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first book is full of diagrams. Well not full of them,
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but there's about twelve of them. So I'm trying to
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make this thing that's really sort of complicated and confusing
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to us in the twenty first century, you know, by
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showing the history simple, you know, much more simple to
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understand how long you've been at this seventeen years.
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And what have you found to be the biggest.
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Ah yeah, shockers, Yeah, no deal to you know what
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was right? The moment the myth the myth busting is one.
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You know, most people kind of think that America has
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been clean or propaganda free for most of the twentieth
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century until maybe later, right like with the event of
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fake news. And I think it was either Obama or
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Biden who sort of reversed that edict that we the
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government couldn't propagandize their own population. I don't know if
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you're familiar with that. It was Obama, Okay, yeah, I
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thought it was.
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And so people just think this is a late entry
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into the democratic process, and the aha moment is that
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essentially they had the skills of the early twentieth century,
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They had the technology. There was the law was passed
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that banned propaganda, I think in the twenties, right after
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World War One, because there was such a backlash to
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what was being done. But as a congressman or senator
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said in an investigation a little bit after that, it
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was a couple of years. Actually, there's more journalists now
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in government than there has ever been, and they just
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basically it was just a big head fake. Instead of
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calling it propaganda, it's called education or public relations. So
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you know what I mean. They didn't they didn't stop
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using that technology once they realized how like amazing it
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was in World War One and even before that. So
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so that was AHA moment number one. And so I thought, wow,
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I really don't know anything about this.
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I got it.
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I've got to dig up the history. The second thing
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was that there's this conventional idea that facts and reason
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will protect us from propaganda, which is lies, disinformation, or mistruth.
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So if we just keep our heads and think logically,
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not getting into emotionalism, because they'll trying to stir up
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our emotions as well, and we're going to be safeguarded.
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And what I realized was that's absolutely not true. That's
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why the smartest people can be manipulated just as easily
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as you know, just your average person. So what I
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learned was those things that help us that are actually
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adaptive in a in a communities, things that help us
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take shortcuts to understanding our world, and we do need
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them as we come together in you know, societies that
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you know, become more and more complex, that those things
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are really trusts and and you don't really like if
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you look at I call it the infrastructure a belief Tony.
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So when you're in a community, the things you trust.
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If you think of a number five dice, right with
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a point in the middle and four dots around it,
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I say that experience is the number one thing. Seeing
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is believing. So trust your eyes and we do that, right,
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So doubting Thomas, he said, I want to see it.
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You know, I'm not gonna believe until I actually see it.
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We preferentially take eyewitnesses over hearsay evidence. Right, you saw
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it with your eyes. Okay, Now that's a good witness.
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So we really trust what we see. And so experiences
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are you know, like a mainstay of how we come
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to come to know something. Secondly, if you take that's
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in the middle, if you take the two wings on
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the bottom, one is authority.
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Right.
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If we can't decide through direct experience, we're going to delegate. Okay,
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let's let's look around to see who I know smarter
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than me or has more experience. You know, they have
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more experience in this thing than I do. And so
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I'm gonna trust trust the experts. So trust your eyes,
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trust the experts. And then the third of that triangle
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is trust what other people are saying and doing. And
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so if I still can't make a decision looking at
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the experience myself, looking trusting authorities, maybe there's nobody out
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there that I trust, I'm going to kind of look
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around and go, well, is everybody run into the exit?
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Maybe I should run too, right, or what's everybody else doing?
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You know, sheep feels safe, you know, staying in with
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the herd, right, I don't know that I want to
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stand out over here if everybody's going this way. And
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so that's really ingrained in us. And so those three
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things are sort of adaptive ways that And again, as
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the society becomes more complex and we can't make decisions
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based on something we can touch and feel in our
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environment or somebody that we actually know, we have to
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delegate that out further and further away from us, and
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it becomes highly manipulatable. So that's that was sort of
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the aha that I had. You know, those two right there,
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You know that we weren't using this technology in a democracy,
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and that facts and reason could actually just help us.
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And when it's more of a seduction, you know, manipulating trusts, right,
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Like where you know a person, If a person you know,
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like just look at a spouse and one of the
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other is cheating, you know, there's a whole lot of
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trust there, right, and they use that trust to kind
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of hide that, and then the person goes, how did
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I not see it? Right? And so in society where
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our trusts are now non local. Right if you take
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our country in like let's say the early eighteen hundreds,
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where these these small rural towns were sort of cut
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off from each other, and you know, you might have
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the guy come in in the horse and carriage and
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you know, give you news from outside, but pretty much
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it was a material world, you know, like I knew
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somebody who I knows somebody who knows somebody who was
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right there, or I know somebody who knows somebody who
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knows that guy. Right, And if a con artist came
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through somebody, a snake oil salesman or something, the community,
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you would pretty much one person all take it, one
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person to find out and you're out right, it was
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through the community and everybody was safeguarded. So it was
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really protected, and it was a you know you I
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call that the walnut it has a really hard shell
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on it and it's hard to change. It's really self reinforcing.
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And you can see that with indigenous peoples right that
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aren't in it. You know, the outside world is not
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penetrating them, and they can stay the same for centuries. Right.
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Another example I give with this is the Amish. The
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Amish chose not to have electricity into their homes, which
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is kind of an amazing thing. So they're still living
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right a what would be a nineteen one hundred, you know,
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nineteenth century lifestyle in many cases, when the culture has
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just dramatically changed around them, and so they've they've been
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somewhat impenetrable. They're that walnut that has said, we're not
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going to take that out. Those outside influence, those ideas
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coming from outside the community that we can't essentially vet.
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And that's where things get kind of crazy because if
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you look at like the penny press Tony, right, a
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paper was six cents. Prior to that, it was pretty
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much upper middle class, but a penny now, you know,
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the rank and file could start to take the news
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from outside their local environment. And when they when they
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did that, then at the same time, by the way,
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the railroad's growing across America so now and people were
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flocking to the cities because of the industrialization, right, the
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jobs were coming into you know, urban areas, and so
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the people were drawn in, and the railroads were extending,
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the newspapers out and print media, and so all of
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a sudden in that era, news from the outside world
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starts to penetrate that walnut and it becomes a source
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that we cannot that right. We have to trust authorities,
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trust the newspaper, trust the print media. And what people
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really don't realize and I didn't either, was that that
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print media was essentially in the hands of the holders
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of wealth at the turn of the century and even
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before a little bit. But and and so they impacted
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the the ideas that were spread on that media platform.
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propaganda fits in all of this. And and I've I've
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been fascinated with the whole of the whole issue of propaganda.
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And there was uh Edward World War One.
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Interestingly, point in fact, he was a nephew of versus
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If you look at so much that ls this country,
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my point of view is it all starts with socialism,
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and it all starts with Naziism.
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When you look at propaganda.
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And you look at how propaganda was used in our
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country and our society. A couple of examples when women smoking,
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women then you smoke until they start seeing pictures and
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then later movies and women smoking and that became a thing.
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Even the ray bands sunglasses, that was the thing, James
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Dean uh. And then also eating eggs and bacon for
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breakfast or just a special meal for breakfast altogether, that
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wasn't a thing until propaganda was used to promote these
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or even diamonds. Diamonds was just you know, uh, formulated
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cold until I guess uh, I forget the name of
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the of the diamond company. But they started promoting that
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as something to give your your your sweetheart, your wife.
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For us and then for for marriage.
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It became a thing and now your woman got to
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have a rock on the finger to fifth special. There's
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all these things that that propaganda has led us to
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do that we before or hence then do even cut
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the player doing.
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To your point, when that's applied to.
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Politics and changing culture, it becomes even more problematic, especially
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in the age as you related to where we're not
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as connected physically as we once were, where a lot
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of our history came down orally. A lot of people
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get at the one car history from the media sources or.
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Social media, and again it's not vetted.
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Okay. Can I go back to one thing that you
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said about Berne and we're talking about the manipulation and
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here's how they use experience. One of the things that
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he did. Are you familiar with the Tortures of Freedom campaign? Okay,
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So what he did was he got his secretary and
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a bunch of other young women to to do the
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Eastern Parade down New York City, you know, in New
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York City, and at a certain point where he designated
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by the way, he had a he had a background
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impress agentry before this, so this was like what they
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called a you know, like a stage craft. Okay, So
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they would create an event for media dissemination, and this
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was what he did. So he had the ladies march
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in the parade at a certain point in the in
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the parade where he had the news media located. They
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rolled up their skirts and took cigarettes out of their
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garter and began smoking them, and they were torches of freedom,
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and the thing was, you know, women, there was the idea, Yeah,
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I was pushing pushing this idea that there were there
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were groups of women who were just eager to smoke.
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And it wasn't because at that time, right, it was
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only bad women that smoked, right, not not respectable women.
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And so that they're here was so they So it's
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a that's where you can make manipulate experience because they're
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there was no horde of women clamoring to smoke from
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the respectable side. And he's putting that into the news
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as something false. Right, you can see, like fake news
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started way.
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Back, whether that's a genuine propaganda can be framed as
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particularly if you look at mine comp is one of
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those you got really love history to read minds comp
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because it's it's very dry read. But the famous part
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that everybody keep reggitating is, you know, tell tell, tell
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a lie enough, it becomes eventually stuff in the truth.
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And so propaganda is and that's as you related to
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the issue.
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With women smoking, that was something that was played over
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and over and over again, and then now everybody.
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Said it must be a good thing because hey, I
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saw it on TV.
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But in my.
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Community that has played such such a role. As I'm
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becoming more and more educated in regards to civil rights movement,
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so some muchster what has been presented to us to
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admire or look at ways of how the civil rights
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movement came about was all staged. For the most part,
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as far as i'm the rise of MLK and so
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many other leaders, it was all stage because you have
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to ask the question, well, these are the two people
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that were doing anything in nineteen sixties, you know, So
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if people don't start asking us the question, why him?
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And how did the media know to point this came
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over here and not over here?
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And how did they find this guy in the middle
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of nowhere walking a track to so called bring light
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to the stuggle of black nigros in America? How do
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they find him in the middle of nowhere? You know,
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just at the right moment where this big event happened.
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How you know, it's kind of kind of things that
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kind of goes back to the cigarette March and when
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you look at that and you see history piece itself
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over and over again.
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But if we don't history, you don't know, Hey, this
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is the rerun right exactly. Yeah, it's fascinating, it's pretty fascinating.
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So Ivy Lee, who was Rockefeller's first PR guy, right, uh,
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he writes a book. It was about nineteen twenty seven,
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and he talks about how they made they made quote
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quotes made a presidential candidate. And so he takes this
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guy who's in the business. His name is a forgotten
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name now because he didn't actually make the cut in
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the you know, in the primary, but they just basically
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pictured him as one of the guy. He was this
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guy backwards, guy from the Kentucky you know, and he
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took a picture of him there and he's hanging out
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with the guys, and then they had him. He won
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this award in the newspaper, and you could see how
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they were just putting him into the public consciousness and
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getting him you know, it's a trial balloon. Let's see
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if they'll like this guy. Right, like he said, where
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the spotlight was? You just said that when he was like, okay, like,
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whoever we shine the spotlight on, that's going to be
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the next great person. And they were doing that in
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nineteen twenty seven. So to your point, you know, in
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the civil rights they're sure they were well adapted at
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whoever they want to rise will rise and be a
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leader of the people whoever they want to keep off
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the screen. And again they did that. In my book,
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I show how the real reformers in the twenties early,
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you know, nineteenth century were kept or twentieth century rather
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were kept out of the media, essentially, Like Robert LaFollette
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was a great reformer out of Wisconsin, and he constantly
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had to battle the press that he was doing amazing
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things here. Tom Johnson in Cleveland was doing amazing things
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for governmental reform, but the Associated press would either you
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don't put them like on the back page, you know
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what I mean, or just you know, every once in
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a while they would report on them, but usually only
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when they did something dumb or something didn't work, and
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so they would they could preferentially bring anyone to the
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fore and keep anyone down. And that's where free speech
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comes in. You're like, we think we have free speech,
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but my contention to people, that's a piece of paper.
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Free speech is a piece of paper if we do
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not have the money to get reach right, so we
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can have this little tiny amplitude on the social receptor level, right,
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we can go a little tiny amplitude down here, but
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we can't get to any bigger amplitude so that the
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real leaders, those who really care about the people, the
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leaders that care about the sheep. Right, we're like sheep
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without a shepherd. The paople they elevate are not the
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people that are caring for us at all.
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I agree, I agree. Let me do a shameless to
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watch the blug here people who are looking for a
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way to.
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Definitely have uh escape pod when the economic collapse comes
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with the the dollarization of the world, definitely look at
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getting gold and silver. If you're not looked at the
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price of silver and where it was like ten years ago,
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need to go look that out and ask ask your
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question where you go be tens from now as far
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as your economics, go to my site. Check out the
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linked I had there for buying gold and silver. If
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you don't buy it there, get it from somewhere. You
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definitely want to have real constitutional money and somewhere in
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your portfolio. I'm not saying so your current portfoliout, but
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definitely has some part of the portfolio and real money
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because real money does not never go to zero.
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Okay, to your point, when you look at what has happened,
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Oh talk about Obama. He come out of nowhere.
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Yeah, people understand him and his place in the first election.
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Hillary wasps win.
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About betting on Hillary Clinton, Kenny rottom Clinton to win
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the presidential election.
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Obama came out of nowhere. Who's Obama? What's he stand for?
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Nobody knew? He was a blank canvas, some nobody from
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you know what they call that.
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All that a dark horse. Yes, then they can paint
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him exactly the way they want to paint him. Nobody
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really knows his background. He doesn't have a track record,
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a messy political track record that you now have the massage,
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and they have been using that label for a long
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time and they have specifically done it if you look
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back for the right. And that was actually one of
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the things that got me studying propaganda because I saw
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that and I thought, well, he's a junior senator. He
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doesn't have the experience to be leader of the free world,
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you know what I mean, what are they doing? They're
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just you know, packaging him to your point.
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But it's not just that, I mean, he wasn't the
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first that who's a dog horse? Because not president comes
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from I mean Jimmy Cartery.
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Right exactly. I was just thinking about him.
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So and so it's not just that is that he
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had no background, no background, and not only that, nobody
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immedia seemed to care about his background. That right, I
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definitely who's this man? What's what's his theology? His folks?
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Where did it come from? Trump questioned where he come from?
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And he was lambastard? But now, huh, maybe he wanted
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to crazy. So I think a lot of people could
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look at Obama because a lot of people are a
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lot more for meid with Obama and if they have
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some question, they could go back to look and basically,
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you know, look at what we're what we're.
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Saying, and see what we're saying is true or not.
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But in reality, people who went through that people have
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we visit that time in history.
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You could see this man coming came out of nowhere
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in the media couldn't care less about his background to Trump,
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where everybody want to dig everything up through his background
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and show short to the world.
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That's the way of that.
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I think people are take a moment and see how
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they be manipulated, because if they treat this site this way,
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at this site this way, you got asked a question,
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why why is Trump hated Mahn.
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To me, he's the most investigated man we ever had
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for president.
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I mean they're gone through every office, the cavity with
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meant body in political structure that and they yet to
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find anything wrong.
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But he's the bad guy.
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But when you look on the other side and you've
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got some serious questions with their ideology, at their background,
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at that character, mom's the word.
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It's very interesting.
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Again, it patient to the whole issue of propaganda and
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had how people being manipulated if they don't really have
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a firm foundation or what's true.
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And you know, there's so many trigger points in this
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twenty first century. You know, if you're on the left
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and somebody starts saying something on the right and it's
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a trigger point, and all of a sudden, you know,
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they can't even talk to each other. Right, It's like
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so in Fox News you had the kind of the
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I call the bifurcation of the public mind right before
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nineteen ninety six, Right, you had everybody drinking essentially from
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the same stream. Mainstream media was really all there was, right,
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and it was tracking a little bit left and creating
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a void a discontent in those who saw the nation's
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problems differently right, and so that created the the opening
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for something like a Fox News to be created, right,
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and so people who were more conservative leaning in their
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ideology tracked that way and all the all media that
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came from that right and so so literally, let's say
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ninety six is twenty something years ago, right, that that's happened.
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And what you see is the absolute polarization of the
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right and the left now to the point where they
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can't even talk to each other. So you have it's
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like you're drawing from different facts and a completely different reality.
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So the right side is saying the left is the
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problem and the left is you know, I mean like
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if we could just get rid of the radical leftist,
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cultural Marxist et cetera, right, and then the ising we
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could just get rid of the neo Nazi, white supremacists
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and cultural Christian bigots, we'd be fine, right, And so
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east side is being taught that, you know, the other
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side is the enemy, and you know, I think I
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think that's purposeful and it's really helpful. And what I
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try to do to people, try not to do to people,
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take people is take them back historically and go, you know,
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they get what they want through both sides, right, and
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realizing that that's been going on since late eighteen hundreds
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00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:39.759
or earlier, like since the Civil War. And so I
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do a brief historical review in this coming book. But
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00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:49.680
Matthew Josephson's a great resource for people. He wrote a
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book called Politicos and the Making of a President which
519
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.000
covers like from the Civil War to Rood War or
520
00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:01.039
Wilson sorry about that. And it's really insightful because you
521
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.200
just go back, there's no triggers and you start looking
522
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.960
at history and how you know, they would just play
523
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.200
each side back and forth. And then the people that
524
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that had something to gain from from manipulating the government,
525
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:17.759
like I could get privileges and grants, you know, the
526
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.279
holders of wealth. Right, I could get the tariffs the way.
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I wanted on.
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00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.680
I could get this, you know, I could manipulate society
529
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:28.039
so that I could enrich myself. And so William Carey,
530
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.039
he was an Australian researcher, and he said this, there's
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three main movements in the twentieth centuries. Is the rise
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00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.759
of democracy, the rise of corporate power, and the rise
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00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:47.079
of corporate propaganda to protect against democracy, right and so
534
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.519
and and that's so that's pretty an interesting point of view.
535
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.359
And when I track this down, I'm trying to tease
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00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:59.680
away the pull on the strings that it's amazing that
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00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.519
the people who understood selling and advertising early in the
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00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:07.160
eighteenth century were the ones that started to galvanize and
539
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.599
bring together all these techniques of manipulation, and they were
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00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.880
the ones that could afford these massive propaganda campaigns. And
541
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:18.319
so if you get the next book that I have,
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I'll give you three examples, like are you familiar with
543
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:31.759
the Wilmington coup out of North Carolina? When it's a okay,
544
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.720
So what I what I show there is I give
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00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.079
three examples of how they were using these new techniques
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00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.960
to elect a president. William McKinley. They used, you know,
547
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these pamphlets and a whole broad based publicity scheme. Right,
548
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:52.759
they sold a fare the World Fare Chicago Worldfare in
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00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:57.640
eighteen ninety three. McKinley was elected in eighteen ninety six.
550
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And these techniques were similar between each other, like you think, well,
551
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:04.839
electing a president is really different than selling affair. And
552
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.480
so what they had to do in eighteen ninety three
553
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:11.039
was Chicago was not an attractive it was sort of
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like a backwater midwestern town. I mean it was growing,
555
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:15.840
but you know, people would rather go to New York
556
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or Paris for a World's there, and so they had
557
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:22.039
to overcome that reputation. They used They had a mailing
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list of forty thousand, okay, a mailing list of forty
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thousand at the time. They spent upwards of one thousand
560
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:32.920
dollars a day sometimes in mailing lists, in promotional materials, lithograms,
561
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:38.400
news articles, indirect news articles. Which was that stunt that
562
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:42.159
stagecraft type thing, right, And you realize all these techniques
563
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:48.000
are very similar across whatever they're selling, they're they're very similar.
564
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.320
So they spent millions of dollars and it was highly successful,
565
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.480
drawing people from Europe who had not only to cross
566
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the sea, but then go inland halfway into the country,
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which we it's a real it was a real journey.
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00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:07.199
And so you know, I show in these iterations how
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it didn't matter. They learned how to sell commodities first,
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like flower, like you know, flower was flower. The flower
571
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.159
was flower. You couldn't make it a better flower. And
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so once they learned how to do that, then they
573
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.840
moved to selling events like P T Barnum and the
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buff wild Bills Buffalo Bill Cody, Wild Bill Cody, and
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they used these same technique. Then they sold like the
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fair just to give like examples in categories. And then
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they started selling a president and they realized, hey, we
578
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:44.719
can sell men and measures, politicians and policies, and so
579
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:50.320
that whole technological skill set started to rise at the
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turn of the century and they realized they didn't.
581
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:58.599
I think that you're kind of staying this. I want
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to make it clear to the listeners. Selling is one thing.
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Propaganda in the way that we're forming it in regards
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00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:15.639
to Obama or women's smoking such as that, that's another level.
585
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:22.440
No, that's what that's not. No, actually, no, I'm saying.
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I'm saying it's almost a seamless progression from the eighteen hundred,
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which which is shocked me. Right, It's like because, okay,
588
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:36.360
so why I brought the Wilmington thing is they sold
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00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.800
ideology there. So that was the Wilmington Cup of eighteen
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ninety eight. So Wilmington, a lot of the African Americans
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were going to Wilmington, and they were doing really well
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in their business, and.
593
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So African American okay, you know, don't say black black
594
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is good.
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00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:01.840
Okay, whatever you want, I'm there, okay. So the blacks
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00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:06.199
were galvanizing in Wilmington, North Carolina, and they had had
597
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:10.280
been doing really good and they joined with a disaffected
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00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:16.119
kind of farmer white population to create the Fusion Party.
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00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.440
And the people down there were the business entities, were
600
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.199
not happy. This was not going to be a black
601
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:27.599
ruled area, right black or.
602
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:28.119
You know what I mean.
603
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:33.000
It was going to be democrat period. And so what
604
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:36.280
they did is this, this guy called the Furnifold Simmons
605
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:46.320
created this campaign of writers, writers and speakers. Okay, So
606
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:50.239
speakers went on the speakers circuit, using local influence to
607
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.679
influence the population, and it was all targeted against the blacks.
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00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:57.440
The black's not going to rule over us. They preferentially
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00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:01.679
brought up blacks preying on white women. It was a
610
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:06.719
super damaging campaign. The writers took up. So as you
611
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:10.360
had speakers, writers, those putting things in newspapers, complete lies
612
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and fictions about you know, what happened in Charlotte versus
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00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.239
something over here. And then they did the last thing
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was writers, and that was they were red red shirts, okay,
615
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:24.639
and they were going to be there in the on
616
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:28.079
the polls to intimidate people, and so like it's funny
617
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because you know, like, oh, we used brown shirts in Hitler.
618
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What's with the shirts?
619
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You know what I mean?
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Red shirts? These were the guys who were on They
621
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.639
were sort of the muscle behind this and in case
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00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.440
people thought they were going to vote and really get
623
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:42.480
free from whatever they were getting free from. No, no,
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00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:44.679
we're gonna have these guys sort of make sure that
625
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backing that up. So it's again it's a it's it's
626
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free online if you look up. Charlotte, North Carolina did
627
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a study finally, like in It's not too long ago
628
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nineteen o eight maybe or nineteen two thousand an eight.
629
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:05.239
I think maybe that brought up this whole history. And
630
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:10.079
so in other words, this campaign was done for months
631
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before the election, and and they murdered people in Wilmington
632
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that day, drove the leaders out of town, the black newspaper, okay,
633
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drove that, burned the building, and they set in the
634
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.199
people that they wanted the Democratic Party, and then they
635
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.920
caused the other people to basically just resign and flee.
636
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:39.480
It's more than that, well, I guess because Berneze came
637
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out of World War One, and he's considered to be
638
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:44.440
the fault of propaganda, but he's not.
639
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:48.760
Well, well, I guess that's that's what I want.
640
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.599
I want to clarify because to me, America is different because,
641
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:57.800
as people say, you can't go anywhere without something being
642
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.199
sold to you. Uh So selling is I guess, a
643
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:05.559
way of manipulation, maybe giving you to buy something that
644
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you will not ordinarily buy.
645
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:11.280
But I to me, it's the context, it's the meaning
646
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why behind that. I think when you look at how
647
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propaganda and when I say a different level, I mean
648
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:21.800
I'm not saying that they're not from the same family.
649
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:23.159
I'm saying propaganda.
650
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:28.280
It's a different level because now it's manipulating, not just
651
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:33.639
a do you bies red sugar compared toives? Right?
652
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:37.639
And now women who never smoke before, I'm gonna get
653
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:38.119
you to smoke.
654
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:38.719
Right.
655
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.440
We used to not be authority society. We had Disney clups.
656
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:45.760
Okay, but wait, so let me just back up.
657
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:48.000
So what's the difference to you?
658
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:51.480
Okay, there is no difference, That's what That's what's amazing. Like,
659
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:54.039
I don't know if you can see this, Okay.
660
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:56.320
I can see if I can't read it, though, Oh yeah.
661
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:58.599
Well experiences in the middle. Okay, So what you were
662
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:04.840
just saying about the smoking, So so that was Brene's
663
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.480
used experience and and and when you think about modern
664
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:13.880
day marketing campaigns, experience is just so it's like proving
665
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.280
that the thing works. It's like before and after. Right,
666
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:19.039
you see the person who's overweight whatever, and now he
667
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.280
looks like this or she looks like this. Right, So
668
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:25.000
that's here's your eyes. Trust your eyes see this, look
669
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:28.360
at the dramatic transformation, right, or it's some sort of scientific,
670
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.719
scientific proof that something works. So that's really experience, right.
671
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:35.760
You're being sold something with experience. See, it is different, right,
672
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.639
And then you're going to go to as scene on right,
673
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:43.320
as seen on CNN or whatever it is that you trust, right,
674
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:47.039
And that's the authority, right, that's the that's the one
675
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:49.039
you brought up with the doctor smoking.
676
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:49.280
Right.
677
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:51.599
Oh, the doctors think that mental is the best thing
678
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:55.480
right back in the day, So that you trusted the doctors, right,
679
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:57.599
And then and then you know, when you're at a
680
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:00.199
website and you're purchasing it says, oh, somebody just bought
681
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:01.079
in Alabama.
682
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:01.800
Oh, somebody just.
683
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:06.000
Bought in right, And or all the reviews. That's social proofs.
684
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.760
Everybody's doing this, everybody loves it. Okay, So that triangle
685
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.000
that I talked about, experience, authority, social pressure is hugely
686
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:19.639
influential for selling anything, even ideologies, Okay, which is like
687
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:23.440
mind blowing to us. Okay that a lot of these these.
688
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:29.760
I'm just saying that before Beneze, the auto selling was
689
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:30.880
a form of propaganda.
690
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.639
Yes, And here's what. Here's one of the things that
691
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.400
that made me really curious. So when I read how
692
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we advertised America, which was every or not everybodee, but
693
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:46.079
but a creole, right, who's just really a journalist. He
694
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:48.039
kind of gets It's kind of like Obama. It's like
695
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.199
what did he like? He like, like, you think, how
696
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.960
the hell did he put this thing? Excuse me, you know,
697
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:55.400
how do you put this thing together?
698
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:56.199
Right?
699
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:58.719
Because he takes six million dollars there's a six million
700
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.840
dollar presidential slush fund from Woodrow Wilson, and all of
701
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:07.480
a sudden he steps on the scene and you know, bam,
702
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:13.760
you know there's posters, signboards. He pays historians to write
703
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.960
print books. They do, not fictional books, supposedly fictional books.
704
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:24.960
Christine was a highly influential propaganda book. They do exhibitions locally,
705
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:28.920
they co op local leadership and create the four minute men, right,
706
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.840
which was speakers locally they would just get up and
707
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.840
say they would get talking points from Washington. They would
708
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.239
practice their speech. It was supposed to be only four
709
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minutes long, and then like let's say they were at
710
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a church meeting or in between the real change at
711
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.400
the movies, they would stand up and give these heartfelt speech,
712
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:50.280
but they were talking points from Washington. And they even
713
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.239
created junior minute men like little kids could do this,
714
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:57.360
and they created materials into the schools. Every known way
715
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:01.280
of influencing man was And I sat back and I went,
716
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:05.719
how did he know how to do that? Well, when
717
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:10.079
I did the research into stelling, all those techniques were
718
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:13.719
already there. He didn't just I thought that, what amazing, guy,
719
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I thought, that's just it's a model. It's like a
720
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turtle on a fence post. How would you have known
721
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all that and just pulled that It was already a
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very well developed body of knowledge. Going back to like
723
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I said, late eighteen hundreds from from Europe, right, Lebonn
724
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wrote The Crowd, a Study of the popular mind in
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late eighteen hundreds, with a lot of your audience maybe
726
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or yourself familiar with that book. It was all there,
727
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and he stepped into it. And like people like Carl
728
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.599
Beneze and Ivy League who were already using some of
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00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.559
these techniques, you know, guys that were involved in political campaigns.
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George not Perkins, I forget it's actually the last name,
731
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:56.199
but you know, those guys stepped in where they were
732
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underneath him, but they were the guys with the real knowledge,
733
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and he was just the figurehead.
734
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:09.079
I guess maybe I'm going a difference in the application.
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Because even before Bernet's because there was people being sold to.
736
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I mean, this was this is the magic event back then,
737
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and you know, especially doing political campaigns. You know, the
738
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the the whole selling Democrat party to the Negro community
739
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at that time, the Democrat so they were trying to
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persuade Negroes to vote Democrat. And there's this one fame
741
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famous picture that that remember this young black boy next
742
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.400
to the flag and he had frisks balled up in.
743
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Sense who's who's a Democrat? You know, like he's getting
744
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ready to fight.
745
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That's something that you can't even imagine these days because
746
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you know, or whatever reason at eighty per But I
747
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guess I guess again, it's it's it's the it's it
748
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was a wide behind like the nations propaganda was definitely
749
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meant to.
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Change the culture.
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Like I guess you could say all sales are designed
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to change a culture to some degree, either the culture
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in your home or the culture in the community, or
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culture of a nation. But I just think it's at
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a different level when you look at how commercialism is.
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It's really got people as as you mentioned, we're hating
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family members just because we hate we don't like the
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particular presidices of candidate, not anything necessarily, particularly when you
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talk about people from their left hating Trump for whatever reason,
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they cannot tell you one thing that they hate Trump
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for doing for the most part, So it's putting out
762
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and personality has been formed through the media, through the experts,
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so to speak, and we heard all doing COVID trust expert, trust,
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expert trust, don't trust your lying eyes, trust expert, trust, expert.
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Don't matter that fifty thousand people die of lung cancer
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each year and we're not shtting up drumming for that.
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Never mind all that expert say this is like the
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boutbonic plague. Everybody running shutting yourself into it for sixty days.
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Don't get no sign, don't get no air. Oh, by
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the way, that's what killed the most virus is such
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shine of air.
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But don't any of that. You know.
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That the whole probaganda behind that change people's mindset, how
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the view not just.
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What how they see things in the only little world.
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But they projected that out to now is I'm gonna
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beat it my neighbor because he or she's not wearing
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a mask.
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You know, I want to save them, not really because
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than a harmie.
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But you're doing it because you start on TV somewhere
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and they gave you sputs say this, we.
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Gave us to be wearing as mass well to your
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whole you know, question with boldness, right, So as the
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world becomes more complex, people don't trust the fact that
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they you know, these are experts. What do I know
787
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about virology?
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You know?
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I mean most people will defer, and that's why it's
790
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so easy to be manipulated, you know, And you think, well,
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if I'm questioning VIRL scientists and virologists, I mean, that's
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what they came out with real early, like are we
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going to trust the science?
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Right?
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And so it just oh, that was a sacrosanct and
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couldn't be couldn't be questioned. It was not manipulated by
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money or anything like that, right, And so you know,
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but we're sort of in a rock and a hard
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place too, right, because so much of the world is
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more complicated that and and we have you know, less
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local leaders and less dissidant voices, much less dissident voices
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that are that are you know again they're they're they're
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castated in the print, right and the media, so that
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that if anybody says anything differently, I mean, you know,
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you know, the whole it's like a Horz or Howitzer,
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you know what I mean getting trained on that person
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and they just get blown up, you know, or their
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career derailed and so and so that's I guess why
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I keep taking people back in history, because like we're
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at uh, you know, fifth generation warfare, here at propaganda,
811
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and if you understand contextually, you know, our history and
812
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the background. How actually along this this technology has been
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around like I say, one hundred and twenty five years
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at least, if not more. And then you start to
815
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see how it's created each time, and the patterns, just
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like you try to teach patterns. See these things repeat
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over and over and over again and again, you can
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they they do it, they go across you know, it's
819
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it's really a selling function, but it's part of the
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innate nature of man like experience, authority, social credit. That's
821
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sort of innate in us. We're herd animals. So and again,
822
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as a society becomes more complex, we have to rely
823
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on those things more and more, and they're like dials
824
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on a little machine that can be easily manipulated, especially
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because you know, we've got something in our hands twenty
826
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for seven. It has access to us, access to our
827
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ear and how much local pushback right Like even churches
828
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now are much weaker, like as far as countering narratives,
829
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you know what I mean, like we don't or people
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don't go and they don't trust the pastor or something
831
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like that. So we're really limited as sheep, who do
832
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we have to really trust in this environment? And again,
833
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if you know how they've been manipulating all across time,
834
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then you're much more capable of going okay, now stepping
835
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back and going yeah, I've seen this. You know, you know,
836
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hats off to you doing what you're doing. And it's
837
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partly why I'm doing what I'm doing is to just
838
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say we've got this is almost one of the most
839
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important problems in the world today because right, we can't
840
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see reality. We don't know where evil is, right, really
841
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don't know where evil is. And so like Kent Cooper
842
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who wrote this book called Barriers down in about mid
843
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mid twentieth century, and they had taken the ascendancy of
844
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being the main news gathering agency. And so there's news
845
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and then there's news gathering, and it makes complete sense. Right,
846
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So if I'm a newspaper and I have to gather
847
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news from the world, I have to put a reporter.
848
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It's expensive.
849
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Right.
850
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You can easily see that that would get really expensive
851
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for one newspaper. So the idea came, Okay, well we'll
852
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we'll create this entity that has these people all over
853
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and then we'll syndicate that news. Okay, so that but
854
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:05.519
you can can you see the centralization and the power
855
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:11.360
in that so Ken Cooper says, he says, the power
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00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:15.159
to tell one nation, uh what it will know about
857
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:19.679
another nation is the greatest power in the world, right,
858
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because I'm gonna set because how can you how can
859
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:25.840
you tell what Russias are doing right or or Chinese
860
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or whatever, But we have no way to get that.
861
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So whatever trickle trickles out, it's going to set that
862
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mood and tone toward that country, and and and many
863
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:38.119
other things as well. But he was right, he said,
864
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it's the most important monopoly of all the monopolies, Like
865
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you know, you have resource monopoly, and it's the most
866
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:48.239
important monopoly. Is this communication system that once they gather
867
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the news from the world. You know, now, he says,
868
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it's true and unbiased news, right, And and your audience
869
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:59.880
should remember that. Whenever technology comes out, it's always present
870
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as something like look at Google, Like Google was great, okay,
871
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:06.760
so we're gonna streamline your search and give you good,
872
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:11.840
good results, right, And they do at first. Right now
873
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:16.000
it's being really manipulated. Right, So down the road it's
874
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:19.880
highly manipulated, but at first it's pretty trustworthy. And so
875
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:23.679
the Associated Press was pretty unbiased because they were going
876
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:26.960
into journals that were conservative or papers that were conservative
877
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.519
and people papers that were you know, more liberal or democrat,
878
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:37.440
and so they had to just keep it really bare bones, right,
879
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:41.719
just the you know the facts, right, But he says
880
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.119
this in his book. He says, this is the last
881
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:47.400
chapter in his book truth dot dot dot the best propaganda,
882
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And he says, the purer the stream, it's axiomatic that
883
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:54.599
the purer of the stream, the easier a little bit
884
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:59.400
of taint can be injected that no one will know about, okay,
885
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.920
And so's it's like, yes, exactly. And there were people
886
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:07.840
already in the early nineteen hundreds, like William Kittle and
887
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:12.280
some of the other reporters and journalists that realized that, yes,
888
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:16.199
in fact, the Associated press was highly biased, especially like
889
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:20.360
against labor and the strikers. They always always gave it,
890
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:25.599
gave the benefit and colored the story to make to
891
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:29.920
make those guys as male contents, violent extremists and people
892
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:32.840
that were going to unravel the whole fabric of society
893
00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:36.280
versus the holders of wealth were always you know, doing
894
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:39.599
the right thing. And so that alone is a way
895
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:43.280
to skew people, you know, against against labor. It was
896
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:45.920
easy to do, and they were already talking about it
897
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:50.480
in the early twentieth century. So now you know, just
898
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:53.400
like Google, it was pretty trustworthy in the beginning. Now,
899
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:57.039
I mean we don't even know, you know, in a
900
00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.079
lot of cases, like you know, we don't even know
901
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.480
what are the fact So just as for example, that
902
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.840
issue of doge. Okay, so doge came in and if
903
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:08.480
you were on the right, they only had read access,
904
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:11.760
right you were like, that's where you were being told,
905
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:13.400
and on the left you're being told, well, no, they're
906
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:15.920
they're they're just siphoning out the database and giving it
907
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:16.840
to the corporations.
908
00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:18.159
How do we know?
909
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:21.280
I mean really, I mean it's like almost two sets
910
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:24.840
of facts about reality are being pumped, you know, pushed
911
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:27.480
out into the environment, which is again why I don't
912
00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:31.079
try to interact with people about current events, because it's
913
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:34.079
almost impossible, you know what I mean, they're getting different
914
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:35.800
facts right right.
915
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My last shameless commercial for anyone who's questioning, seeking for facts.
916
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:47.760
You and you asked yourself the question, why is my
917
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:51.960
grandfather able to buy his Mustang as fifty five thousand
918
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.599
dollars and not that same call costs five hundred fifty
919
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:55.880
thousand dollars fifty thousand?
920
00:55:56.199 --> 00:56:00.199
What changed the value of the medium that you're using us?
921
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:02.960
The item what do you see going up?
922
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:07.360
Gold and silver measure the time gold and silver to
923
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:10.880
the dollar in nineteen sixty five and see the difference.
924
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:12.760
Take action.
925
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:15.840
Go to my site check out the information on how
926
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:19.159
you get into the Golden Siling game, if not from there,
927
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:22.360
getting into the game somehow. Because the truth and history
928
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:25.920
don't lie. It's only how we see the truth and
929
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:28.880
see history. That's the unknown.
930
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Thank you. One more question.
931
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:38.760
When you look at America and you say that it
932
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:45.760
is the most propagandized, I know I agree to that.
933
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:51.199
Do you see that as a good thing or a
934
00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:53.880
bad thing or where do you see it ended up?
935
00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:58.639
Oh? I definitely see it as a bad thing. It's
936
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:03.119
you know, it's it has basically skewed our whole version
937
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:06.760
of history and seeing ourselves. One of my mottos for
938
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:12.519
this year is true hope begins when illusions end. And
939
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:15.239
a friend of mine related to me the story of
940
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:18.000
that plane that went down in the Andes Mountains in
941
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nineteen seventy two, that Andy's crash, and they he was
942
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:27.119
relating that they were able to fix the radio. So
943
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:29.719
there was broken radio that they got working, and so
944
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.760
they were sitting around and they heard the worst news
945
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:35.679
that they could possibly hear was that the search for
946
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:39.039
them had been called off. Okay, so nobody wants to
947
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:42.039
hear that news, right, that's true.
948
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:44.199
That's what was the Andys crash.
949
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:46.599
Well, it was just a plane that went down in
950
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the Andyes, and they ended up resorting to cannibalism to
951
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:52.960
say themselves. So that's how it got kind of a.
952
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:56.480
Pardon didn't miss movie about that.
953
00:57:56.719 --> 00:58:02.039
Yeah, I said, I remember the people up there in
954
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the mountains, okay, Yeah, So.
955
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:06.920
Anyways, they're stranded deep there in the Andes Mountains, and
956
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:10.960
so they're around the radio and they hear the worst
957
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:14.800
news they could possibly hear. Nobody's coming to rescue you. Okay,
958
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:18.119
But that, in fact was actually what they needed to
959
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:21.599
hear more than anything, because if they didn't take action
960
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at that point, they would have been lost. If they
961
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:28.360
sat there waiting, they would have gotten their strengths, reserves
962
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:30.920
would have gotten you know. And then I think it
963
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was late. I think it was in the fall, and
964
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:34.639
so it would be deeper and deeper into winter. They
965
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:38.480
ended up walking out, you know, they ended up you know,
966
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:43.360
getting enough materials together and strengthening themselves and making it
967
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.800
out enough to get to get rescued to a place
968
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:48.320
that could get rescued. So but that's kind of my
969
00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:50.480
motto for the year. And we have a lot of
970
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:54.320
illusions about this country and democracy. Like what I said earlier,
971
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:57.360
I said, you know, we don't really have free speech
972
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.000
because people that have great ideas and people that are
973
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.840
talking about root problems are not. And that's probably how
974
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:07.519
you control a democracy from behind the scenes, is you know,
975
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:10.599
these are the problems. Everybody's told are the problems, but
976
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:14.639
actually the real problems. Like I have a little I
977
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:16.000
don't know if they have it, and then you probably
978
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:17.599
can't see it anyways, but I have a tree. I
979
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:22.239
call it the monopoly tree, and on the leaves are
980
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:24.000
all these problems that we're trying to fix, like maybe
981
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:27.000
digital ideas coming, you know what I mean, maybe immigration things,
982
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:29.679
and you know whatever, they're on the tree. And then
983
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:32.960
and underneath there's there's a monopoly of the news media.
984
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:36.679
There's a monopoly of the banking system. There's a monopoly
985
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:38.960
you know, kind of at the university system, right, a
986
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:42.800
lot of public private partnerships, and there's all these monopolies
987
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:46.719
down here, and there's centralized control so that we the
988
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:49.880
people don't get our voices heard, so you can pluck
989
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:53.360
the things off the tree. But essentially those roots are
990
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:59.440
still there, all the power and wealth and and even
991
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:04.119
like I an ideological syndicate, right, so it lacks your
992
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:07.920
mind into certain, you know, a certain frame. And so
993
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:11.079
without getting out of that frame, which is again question
994
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:14.440
boldly which you which you're constantly saying, getting out of
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01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:17.199
that frame will help you see. But but all the money,
996
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:19.519
all the money coming up through the bottom of that
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01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:23.639
tree is there to you know, continue the path that
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01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:29.199
we're already on. And so, uh, you know, it's it's
999
01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:31.519
a it's a huge thing. And without looking at the
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01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:34.719
real roots of the problem, we're never gonna we can start.
1001
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:36.880
We can try to block things of different areas, but
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01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:40.360
we as as just the people, the rank and file
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01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:43.199
really globally, not just in the United States, because it's
1004
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:46.119
coming down the pike really quickly in terms of you know,
1005
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:49.559
kind of snapping the pieces together for world government essentially,
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01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.320
which would give us less and less, you know, less
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01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:54.920
and less of a voice than we already have.
1008
01:00:56.320 --> 01:01:00.119
So you throw a nugg a bit out there in
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01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:03.840
the course to how we're going down the path of
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01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:08.920
or government. What is your opinion and how do you
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01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:15.559
see this being used to bring forth the adbodishment of
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01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:17.599
paper currency.
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01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:26.400
Yeah, they've got that's that's a system that's being phased out, right.
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01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:29.159
So when they brought in Brenton Woods, I mean, they
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01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:32.679
did certain things back then when they were creating the
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01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:37.480
petro dollar, right and and so now you know the
1017
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:40.559
dollar is so inflated, right, and we're suffering from that.
1018
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.119
Now all the coronavirus dollars that we're just thrown out
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01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:49.159
into the environment are coming back to haunt us, excuse me,
1020
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:56.159
and so yeah, that that they have to come up
1021
01:01:56.199 --> 01:01:59.960
with another method, and that's the digital money that will track.
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01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:03.679
It won't actually be money, it'll be you know, like
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01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:07.119
credit at the at the country store, you know. And
1024
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:10.119
and so it can be turned off, it can be surveilled,
1025
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:13.760
it could be you know, programmed to be only used
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01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:17.880
for certain things, which is an amazing control system.
1027
01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:23.880
Though it sounds good, doesn't I mean it's everybody want convenience.
1028
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:28.920
Right oh god, yeah, right, no money, right, no, yeah,
1029
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:31.440
I know. And the kids are using their phone now just.
1030
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:33.760
Love it because they ain't got to carry the waws
1031
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:35.920
of cast that we did when I was growing up.
1032
01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:38.719
So this is so much better for everybody who needs
1033
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:40.119
that dirty nasty money.
1034
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:44.199
Yeah right, it's again germs carries germs everything. I know,
1035
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:46.039
I hear you. No, I mean.
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01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:48.960
Carry that dirty money out.
1037
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:53.199
Well think about it, though, You're gonna be totally blocked
1038
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:55.679
out from any means of exchange, right if you're gonna
1039
01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:57.880
if you're like on a you know, like let's say
1040
01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:01.039
I just want to do a garage sale, right, you know,
1041
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:04.199
and I'm not. I don't have a phone to take money.
1042
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:06.960
I can't sell anything, and so you know, yeah, no,
1043
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:10.039
I it's it's a Your audience knows this. You've been
1044
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:14.000
already hammered on this. So yeah, they're they're fast coming
1045
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:17.320
coming to the place where that's locking into place, even
1046
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:21.199
across countries, right, and look at the coronavirus response, right
1047
01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:25.239
across countries that seemingly have different ideologies are falling in line,
1048
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:28.920
hook line and sinker with the digital money or the
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01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:33.199
digital ID and the you know, the pandemic rules that
1050
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:34.920
are going to come from a like a you know,
1051
01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:39.960
the who basically in the next pandemic that they've got planned.
1052
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:45.360
So yeah, we've got issues, and you know what, black, white,
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01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:49.400
Asian whatever, we've got to get together, even left right,
1054
01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.599
we've got to get together and see the enemy is
1055
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:55.719
snapping these things in from the top, not this.
1056
01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.480
Way, right managers. Also, I always say that what we
1057
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:01.960
got more in common during.
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01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:04.880
Dude, absolutely so, so long as we can stand on
1059
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:08.280
the flag, stand on mechanism, and stand on God.
1060
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:13.920
I mean those two platforms, those two fundamental beliefs. I
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01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:15.800
don't care what color you are. I don't care if
1062
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:18.719
you're gay, don't care. I don't care you woman, black
1063
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:19.079
and brown.
1064
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:21.559
If we can stand on those three things, you got
1065
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:24.039
my back, I got yours with with that question. And
1066
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:27.280
all we gotta do is have a conversation, realize how
1067
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:32.880
much we do have in common, even in today's overly propagandized,
1068
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:36.760
politicized environment.
1069
01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:39.079
That's what they don't want us to do.
1070
01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:43.960
Have a conversation about what do we see because there's
1071
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.840
nothing wrong with green green Who disagree, you know, but
1072
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:49.119
at least you have a conversation first, So then I
1073
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:51.920
don't hate you so much because now you as a
1074
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:58.440
human being with all we don't necessarily agree with with
1075
01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:02.519
with these other opinions, but now I know better what
1076
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:03.320
you believe.
1077
01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:07.079
And depends on how the stream it is will tell
1078
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:09.320
me whether I need to look out for you going forward.
1079
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:13.639
But of us are on that real stream level. A
1080
01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:16.079
lot of us are just as you say, just don't
1081
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:17.039
know any better.
1082
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:21.440
Yeah, And so you know, one of the things that
1083
01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:23.440
I did with this book is I made a study
1084
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:26.440
guide with the first book. And you know, you can't
1085
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:29.679
teach this stuff to somebody's kid, you know, it's it's
1086
01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:31.760
a different you know. I mean, you've got to help them.
1087
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:34.719
You've got to as a parent, get get educated yourself
1088
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:37.480
on our own history and the rise of this sort
1089
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:42.239
of technique and skills. Okay, and and then teach your kids,
1090
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:44.639
because if you give them a phone at whatever age
1091
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:47.679
they you know, they're not like that homage culture, you'll
1092
01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:50.480
lose your kid, right, You'll lose the influence. And a
1093
01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:53.000
lot of cases, we are losing the influence from parent
1094
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:55.880
to kid on how to raise them and mold them
1095
01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:58.440
into the way you know that you would prefer as
1096
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:02.480
a parent. And so I created the book and a
1097
01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:05.280
study guide so that you could sit down and in
1098
01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:08.519
twelve lessons, you know what I mean, with some readings
1099
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:11.400
from the book and some extra readings, you can get
1100
01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:14.519
a good handle on all that. And I made it simple,
1101
01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:16.320
you know, for that reason and then the second book.
1102
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:17.599
I don't know if I'm gonna do a study guide,
1103
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.880
but we'll see. It's the same way. It's taking you
1104
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:23.159
back to Hey, look at this era. These are the
1105
01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:25.840
books that you should read, you know, to to like,
1106
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:28.360
not the books, okay, because this is a way to
1107
01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:32.480
look at it. Okay, I'm not like, but you know,
1108
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:37.159
here's here's several that you could take from and if
1109
01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:39.320
you just read one from each air because there's nothing
1110
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:40.719
like and I see you know, you have the books
1111
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:44.440
all behind there. There's nothing like learning it yourself, right,
1112
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:46.719
versus learning it from somebody else. So I'm laying out
1113
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:50.679
the forty thousand view picture of the development of these
1114
01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:53.960
sort of techniques over the course of the late eighteen
1115
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:56.920
mid to late eighteen hundreds up until now. And if
1116
01:06:56.960 --> 01:06:59.679
you have that context, oh my gosh, I mean, it's
1117
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:01.800
so much stronger than just you know what I mean.
1118
01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:04.119
It's and you can do it and use it with
1119
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:07.800
conversations with people where you know, if you talk about
1120
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:09.960
current events, it's gonna you know, there's gonna be friction,
1121
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:13.320
but you can take them back and keep keep taking
1122
01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:17.679
them back to a non polarized or land mind filled
1123
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:20.840
area and when we can talk, we can start to talk.
1124
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:24.320
So I think what you're doing is is wonderful. Keep
1125
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:24.639
it up.
1126
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:30.079
Yeah, with with with what you're doing. Former physical table, right,
1127
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:36.960
come back girl. So yeah, So tell people how to
1128
01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:41.639
follow you, how I connect with you, how you on
1129
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:42.400
your path.
1130
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:47.440
Okay. So I have a smart substack called smart Sheep.
1131
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:51.840
So it's s H E E P E. So there's
1132
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:52.599
another E on it.
1133
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:53.119
Okay.
1134
01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:54.800
Of course you can look at my name and then
1135
01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:58.119
I have a website at w W smart sheep dot
1136
01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:01.519
com and you can sign up for the newsletter. You'll
1137
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:03.480
know when I'm coming out with the next book, should
1138
01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:05.800
be within a month. And I've got a guy great
1139
01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:07.760
making some great diagrams that are going to be really
1140
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:11.599
helpful to explain things for people. Plus the histories there,
1141
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:15.079
the references are there. You can dig in deeper, and
1142
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:17.079
I just think it's it's going to be a really
1143
01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:20.720
good resource for people narrowing right in on this topic,
1144
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:23.079
not going and not going too deep, but but keeping it,
1145
01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:25.840
keeping it, you know, at that high level. And so
1146
01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:29.039
those are the two places that I am. And again
1147
01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:31.199
I love to just you know, anytime you want to
1148
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:33.600
have me back on and you know deep further and
1149
01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:37.399
I can give you too, Tony. If you want advanced
1150
01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:40.520
review copy, you just let me know after this and
1151
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:44.479
I'll get you the PDF and for both books to
1152
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:45.600
be honest with you, if you want to take a
1153
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:46.079
look at them.
1154
01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:49.119
Yeah yeah, yeah, definitely, so definitely don't go nowhere. When
1155
01:08:49.159 --> 01:08:52.760
when when we signed off with this information? So everyone,
1156
01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:59.800
as I always say, ask questions, Ask questions. The truth
1157
01:08:59.840 --> 01:09:02.800
is out there. You got to ask the questions. What
1158
01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:05.600
it's just not That comedy is a lock. It don't
1159
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:07.960
open if you turn it and put it on the
1160
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:11.039
on the wone number. You gotta find out what the
1161
01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:13.000
true number is to open and open up that lock,
1162
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.439
because we need to open up that lock, real real,
1163
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:19.319
real quick, because the change is coming. The change is coming.
1164
01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:22.920
So the next time, be blessed, be good, be free.
1165
01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:42.159
Thanks for listening to today's show, and don't forget to
1166
01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:45.760
like and subscribe to this podcast and look for Project
1167
01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:49.600
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1168
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:53.640
out our web page at Projectthirdeyeopen dot com and that's
1169
01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:57.960
third I with the letter I Project Thirdeyeopen dot com.
1170
01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:03.119
Drop us a note at Tony el at Projectthirdiyopen dot com.
1171
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:08.600
That's Tony el at projectthirdiyopen dot com. As you wait
1172
01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:13.600
for our next podcast to drop, don't take anything we've satisfact. Instead,
1173
01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:17.720
do your own homework, make up your own mind, then
1174
01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:23.720
take action until next time. Be blessed, be good, and
1175
01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:24.640
be free.