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Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting.
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Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what
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it's really like to be a parent which I would
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say can be a little tricky.
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So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about
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the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week
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we're chatting to a famous parent about how.
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They're coping or hopefully how they're not coping.
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And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with
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your tips advice and of course tales of parenting.
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Woe because let's be honest there are plenty of times
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where none of us know what we're doing Hello, you're
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listening to Parenting Hell with.
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Max, can.
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You say Rob Beckett?
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Rob Beckett.
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Good boy. And can you say Josh Whittakin?
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Josh Whittakin.
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Good boy. You sound like he's had a joint.
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This is Max, my two-year-old son. We recorded this and
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now he won't stop saying Josh Widdicombe. Apparently it's fun
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to say. Too bloody right.
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Sounds like Channel 4 Commissioner. It doesn't these days. Love
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the podcast. Thanks for making the rest of us feel normal. Love,
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Lauren from Portsmouth.
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How do we get rid of Josh Whittakin from Last Leg?
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He's not disabled. How do we let him slip through
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the net?
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That was a good one, though. I liked that kid.
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I liked his energy. Yes. How are you, Rob? All good. Yep.
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I'm tired, Rob.
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I'm tired and cold. I'm tired and cold. I'm so tired.
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So it's cold everywhere. I'm getting lots of slip.
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Oh, no, Rob. What?
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I've started having a piss in the night. You know
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when I say I don't have pisses in the night?
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yeah this week I've started going for a piss in
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the night and I can't.
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Get out of it do you drink before bed or
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yeah I've been drinking loads of water because I'm on
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a diet Right.
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Oh, my diet. I had a really bad week when
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Lou was away. Yeah. I had a fry up.
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Oh, you know, I've got an office that I'm going
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to do this from eventually when it all goes through.
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I've got this office, right, that I need to set
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up the cameras and stuff with Michael. Put that on
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the to-do list, Michael. Anyway, I went there when the
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boiler was getting sorted out or something. They had to
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put something on it. Oh, God, I'm boring myself. Fucking hell,
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liven up, Rob.
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Anyway. Anyway. It was really cold.
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I was waiting in a cold, empty office while they
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were fixing something. So I thought, Joe, I'll go for
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the caff. They'll be done in an hour. I'm supposed
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to be on my Gary Barlow get ripped. Had a
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fry up because it was minus five. And I was like,
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I think that's allowed. Gary Barlow's not having a fry
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up for any temperature. Surely Barlow's knocking back a fry
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up when it's minus five.
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Okay. He can't be on yogurt. Not that cold.
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No.
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Anyway, I went for a fry up, right? And I'm
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going to send you this fry up. And it's the
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caff nearest my office.
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Yeah. Okay. Which is dangerous. You almost want it to
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be bad. Right.
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But actually, it's a good caff. I'd say it's in
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between caff and cafe. But this fry up, I add it, mate.
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Oh, my word.
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What the best fry up I've ever eaten. Fuck yeah, now.
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I've never seen vertical toast. Is that more bacon?
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No, it's a homemade hash brown.
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Oh, my word. And it's bacon well done, sausage.
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So I'm going to tell you something now. Gary Barlow's
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never eating that, mate. They're poached eggs, though, Josh.
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Yeah. Rob, that's not Gary Barlow's breakfast. Anyway, I was
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supposed to be getting ripped.
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good and I had loads of veg before Lou went away,
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and then I did smelly poos and all that, and
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then Ken Bruce left radio too.
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I'm not saying it's my fault, but I'm not saying
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it helped. LAUGHTER Anyway, that.
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So then I was flying, and then I started my
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week when it was cold.
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I had a fry-up.
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I had a pizza express twice, and then I finished
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a week on fish and chips from the chippy.
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Oh, Rob.
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That's not a Barlow. Anyway, new week, new me. I'm
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back on it.
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Lose back. I'm not working as much. There's another parent
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here to help me. I'm back on the veg grind.
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Great. Because I'm on day eight of my diet.
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I saw you eating cottage cheese with an avocado, and
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you look sad. what it's all about mate you look
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sad and thin I look sad but.
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I'm drinking too much water and it's making me piss
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at night Yeah. You know, I do the brown noise.
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Is it a clear piss or is it a dark one?
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I'm not looking, Rob. I try and keep my eyes
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closed while I'm doing it. Are you doing brown noise
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every night? Yeah.
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And it gives you a time of how long you've
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slept for. Because obviously you can see how far you've
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got through the brown noise playlist.
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Oh, yes. What are you looking at? I did eight
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hours and a quarter last night. What, before the piss? No, no, no.
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I don't check it when I get up for the piss.
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But I leave the brown noise running. So eight hours sleep. Yeah.
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Why am I tired? What time do you go to bed?
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You know I go to bed early, Rob. You're such
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a little nerd. I'm not a nerd. You little full
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pyjamas book on quarter past eight. I'm not. I'm wearing pyjamas, Rob.
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I'll pair a pair of loose boxer shorts. What time
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did we go to bed last night? What did we watch?
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We watched the second part. Is Rose in there while
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you're doing the podcast, watching you? What do you mean
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doing the podcast? You asked her what time did we
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go to bed. No, no, I was saying it to myself. Oh,
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I thought she's in the room making sure you're not
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slacking off. She's a big fan of the show. And
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I said, you should see it unedited. It's really good.
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Just watch it a couple of days. She can't hear you,
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it's quite weird, because I've got the headphones in.
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She just hears just your audio. So what time did
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you go to bed last night?
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We watched that Chuck D hip-hop documentary. Don't try and
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make yourself sound cooler. So we were pretty cool.
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Yeah, I watched a little bit of a hip-hop doc.
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You did watch that Chuck D hip-hop documentary.
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And then we went to bed at about 9.45. 9.45.
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It's pathetic. To sleep. It's pathetic, isn't it?
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It was a.
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So what time did you get into bed?
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Well, Rose went straight to sleep, Rob, because she was
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still drunk from being a clarity. I couldn't even say it.
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So she was asleep bang on 9.45? No, well, it
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takes a quarter of an hour to get upstairs, doesn't it? Yeah, 10pm.
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I wouldn't say that's too... I think if you've got
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a kid, what time is your son getting up?
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6.45, 7. Yeah, I mean, yeah.
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If you want to have a good day and be
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able to do your life, you need to be going
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to bed by 10 p.m.
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If you've got a kid waking up at 6.
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I can't remember what it's like to watch Match of
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the Day.
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I've been watching it in the mornings.
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On Saturday Sunday morning you know what it's something like
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but like live like and I've been waiting for it
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to come on it's so pathetic I remember breaking up
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and going why the fuck why I used to go
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why are they putting Match of the Day on so
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early no one's up at that time when I was
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like 22 now I'm waiting for it to come on
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I'm negotiating alright then girls you can watch Frozen 1
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Frozen 2 and after three hours when that's finished I'll
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be watching Match of the Day at 9.30am okay.
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What has become of our lives? Eight hours is good.
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That's good sleep, mate. That's good. I go to bed
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before Lou now. Do you? I'm really needing a lot
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of sleep. I feel like.
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The couple that doesn't go to bed together isn't... Like,
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I can't go to bed first.
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I can go to bed second. I can't go to
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bed first. Now, I've only just started doing it, but
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I actually feel a bit smug. Do you? I'm going
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to bed now. Will you just sit there and let
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Telly rot your brain? I'm going to go watch TikTok
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in bed.
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Yeah, I literally lay there for an hour. Last night,
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I watched TikTok for an hour, and I just thought
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to myself, you're disgusted. I had my book on my
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lap as if I was going to read it.
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No. Just watch people falling over in the ice. Shall
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we get our guest on in two and a half minutes?
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We both said we had nothing to say at the
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start of this podcast. We've really strung it out close to...
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I'd argue we haven't. Do you want one bit of correspondence?
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Just because we're talking doesn't make it content, does it? Oh,
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come on. You know how podcasting works. Let's get through
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to the end of this without content. All right.
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Shall I play you Prince Harry singing your song? I honestly, mate,
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I'm going to say it now. I gave up on spare.
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I didn't enjoy it.
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Oh, just too much? Just fucking hell, we get it.
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You're in the army. Fuck it.
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If I wanted Bravo 2-0, I'd have fucking bought it, mate.
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Five contextive chapters on flying an Apache helicopter.
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I couldn't give a shit. Tell me some things about
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Prince Charles.
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Five chapters on an Apache. This is like when Lou
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tried to make me read John Steinbeck. Oh, my God,
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that bloke loves to describe a field.
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Oh, my God. Fuck me. LAUGHTER This is Prince Harry.
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I hope you don't mind.
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I hope you don't mind that I put down.
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In words how wonderful life is while you're in the world.
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He sang it with a twinkle and a smile.
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Oh, he's not even that. What? That was worse than
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just reading it. I know. Just read it. Surely. In
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his defence, though, the audiobook is horrible to do. Yeah,
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I know. On your own.
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He's had to read out five chapters on a patch.
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He's probably thinking, I've overdone it on a patch. I've
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doubled down.
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I've cinquented down on a patch. Shh.
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That is tough. I feel so... Yeah, I would have
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just read that out. That's by producing that.
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I think... It's a little bit funny. If I put
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down in words... He doesn't believe it. He doesn't believe
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that he should be singing this. It's a little bit funny.
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I hope you don't mind. I hope you don't mind
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that I put.
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Down in words the Apache helicopter.
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One of modern technology's marvels. We've done it. All right.
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We've done it. got to get our guest on. We've
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got to get our guest.
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We have William and Kate Windsor.
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Right, should we do our guest? Yeah. Who have we
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got this week? Right. Is he the best looking man
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you've ever met? Well, unfortunately, I'll never be able to
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meet me.
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So, yes.
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Our guest this week, David Gandy. What a salt.
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David Gandy, welcome to the podcast. We're very excited to
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have you on. Can I just call you Gandy? Did
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we call you Gandy when me and Romesh met you?
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Do you like Gandy?
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I've been Gandy since I was about five. Really? I
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think at the end of school, people came up to
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me when I was 18 and went, what is your
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first name?
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I was like, David Gandy.
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Yeah david gandhi welcome to the show um josh me
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and gandhi are best pals because from my modeling days.
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Yeah of course i forgot about that yeah yeah.
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When i used to you know new york fashion week
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things like that in it dave yeah stuff.
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Like that wrong rob what went wrong what.
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Went wrong i just lost the i just lost the
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fire for it They wanted me back, but I was like,
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if I can't do it to my full ability, I
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don't want to know. He didn't believe it anymore, did you?
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A bit like Cantona when he retired early from football.
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He still had the ability, but didn't fancy it.
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You've got to go out on top though, Rob. That's
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the thing.
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Exactly. Leave them wanting more.
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Yeah, exactly.
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He does.
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The weird thing is about that, is like everything I've done,
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everyone comes up to me and speaks.
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About that episode.
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Really i'm like that's the best thing you've done i
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was like i was on it for three minutes i
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was like they said best thing funniest thing you've ever
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done i was like oh great thanks for that like.
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More than the uh more in the advert more than
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is it well you know you know the advert in
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the pants that we recreated to be.
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Honest i got a little bit worried during the episode
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because you know when you first did your photo.
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Shoot yeah it was actually really good Oh, it was.
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Yeah, the portfolio's not bad, actually. I don't know if
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you've seen it, Josh. It's actually pretty good, yeah. People
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are going to think this is, which is quite easy,
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but this is.
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Like an easy game. Is it easy, David? Yeah.
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But, yeah, to be honest, then, Josh, we got them on...
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Then you had to recreate light blue in the white pants.
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I'd say it's not easy, if you've got my body,
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to recreate David Gandy's famous shot of.
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Him on the boat.
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How would you feel if your kids went into modelling
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at an older age?
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But Josh, we need to establish, the listener don't know
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how many kids... I'm being seamless. You're not being seamless.
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My two kids... Since you mentioned. But we normally ask
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the guests. How many kids have you got? How old
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are they? It's so seamless.
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If you ever want to do a podcast, let us
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know if you need any tips.
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Hints, pointers.
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I've got two kids, Joe. I've got two girls.
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Two girls.
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Just over four and just over one.
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Right.
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Oh, okay.
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Busy age. You look very tired. I'm knackered, mate.
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I haven't slept in four years. This is good.
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I mean, that's actually one thing that the industry, because,
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I mean, being in the industry, I've been jet lagged
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for 20 years.
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Yeah.
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I've been on 90 plus a year. The wife finally
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found a use for me. I don't sleep.
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And she's just like... Right. Okay.
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Well, I'm going to get a good night's sleep and
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you do the nights.
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And that was then be the rule. So I basically
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just got used to, you know, being able to function
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on four or five hours sleep. So that to other
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people is when they have a baby is an absolute shock.
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I mean, they're just, they're just like, Oh my God,
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like how do you function? I've been doing that for years.
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90 flights, 90 flights a year.
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That's why sometimes more.
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Have you got a part-time job as cabin crew or something?
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I've got a lot of fucking air miles I can't
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spend for some reason.
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Because I would say, though, having a kid is just
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like being jet-lagged, isn't it? Like, all the time. And
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you're saying that you've been preparing for this. Has it helped?
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It's sleep deprivation, isn't it? Sleep deprivation is used as torture.
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And then we have children and put us in... Like
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someone said to me the other day, it was the
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thing that... if one of the most complicated, hardest things
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in life, and anyone can do it. Like you're not,
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you don't have to have an exam. You'd like, you know,
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when you leave the hospital, they come and check, they
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bring your baby down. If you're in a car, they go,
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we've got a car seat.
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You go, yeah. And you put the baby and they go, well,
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you're good to go.
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And you go, are we?
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Are you sure we're good to go? Because I think
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we're good to go.
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Yeah, because when I worked at Sainsbury's, they had this
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big machine that you put the cardboard in and it
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would crush it to get it into a small cube
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to send off.
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I wasn't allowed to use that machine. Yeah. Because I'd
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have been trained. No, no, it was just that you
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weren't allowed to use the machine right away. Everyone else was.
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But yeah, it is brutal. How have you found it?
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Do you always want to be a dad and you're
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loving it now or is it, you know?
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No, I mean, I love kids because basically I am
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one still. And I think that's where, I think dads
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come into their own a little bit in some ways
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because we love to be a bit silly and a
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bit stupid and kids.
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Kind of love that. So I've, my sister has six children.
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Oh, wow.
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She's got three boys, three girls. And so I had
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lots of nieces and nephews. And she's one of those
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annoying people that makes it look effortless. Like, she lives
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over in Spain with her husband. And then she says,
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you know, I said, we're having a birthday party or
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we're getting one of the kids christened. It's going to
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be mad for you to come over with all the kids.
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And there she is on her own, brings six kids
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all flying with each other.
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Oh, my God.
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Seamless like six suitcases six bags we've got two and
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you know we're having a nervous breakdown about getting in
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the car and going to waitress.
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It's just i don't know how.
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She does it it's just quite annoying.
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Did she give you tips or did you find it?
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Because sometimes people with a lot of kids, they'll give
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new parents or soon-to-be parents tips and it's quite frustrated.
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Yeah, I'm not a big person on the tips, on
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the parenting tips thing.
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You don't like them. When other people give advice. No,
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I'm not the most patient person when they come for that.
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At all I don't think I do it as well
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I don't think I give I just think everyone has
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to do it in their own way you have to
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make your mistakes and you have to learn from them
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and every child is different every one of my children
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every one of my you know my sister's six children
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have been brought up in the same way have been
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schooled so they're all entirely different every one of them
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yeah So you just have to adapt very, very quickly.
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And I think I kind of got to that when
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we started going to birthday parties or meeting parents at
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the nursery. And then there was a slightly different dynamic
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of one birthday party. It's like they just did fish
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and chips. And I said to the parents.
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When has he got some tomato sauce? Well, I mean,
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that just led to World War III among a few parents.
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Oh, you let your daughter have tomato sauce?
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Oh, wow.
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I was like, yes, tomato sauce. And then, of course,
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my daughter's used to having a bit of a tomato sauce.
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You know, she has a little, you know, squirt of
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tomato sauce. That's what she's allowed.
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And you animal david you absolute savage the kids you
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know the kids who have never had tomato sauce were
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you know got the bottle they were squeezing everywhere in
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their mouths and everything else this is this is.
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Why we don't allow tomato sauce.
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No i think if you it's all like moderation where
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so lou i feel like i've spoken about this before
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was not allowed fizzy drinks as a kid she smashes
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through diet coke like a monster It's some sort of
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inbuilt thing of a, yes, I can get it now.
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Do you know what I mean?
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I wasn't really allowed fizzy drinks, and I still don't
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really drink fizzy drinks.
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It's quite a weird thing. What my mum used.
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To allow me, and I don't know if you know them,
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scampi fries.
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Scampi, yeah, yeah. Awful. The smell. The smell.
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And now I still love scampi fries, so I get
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in the car, go on the road trip and get
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my packet of scampi fries.
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People are like, what is wrong with you?
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I love a scampi fry, but the smell makes you
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feel physically sick. And my brain goes, just eat them
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quick and you won't have to smell them anymore. Just
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get them down you, because they're good for you.
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Just get them down you. Get fish. It's good, isn't it?
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Fish is good for you.
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It's brain food.
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So what's your children's diet like? Pretty good, to be honest.
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I mean, I'm quite nutritionally.
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I had to be.
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I kind of taught myself to be quite nutritionally aware.
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Yeah, me too, mate. Big time.
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But we're as guilty as any.
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But my idea....
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People think I'm ultra careful about what I eat and
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everything and carbs. I'm not at all.
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So, you know, it's just like instead of if they
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want chips, they get sweet potato fries and stuff like
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that that you can, that kids will still eat.
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My kids don't like chips.
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They don't like chips?
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I've never met kids that don't like, they don't like chips.
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They just go, no, I don't like chips. Who don't
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like chips? I don't know anyone that don't like chips.
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It's impossible not to like chips, isn't it? You're always
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saying I got them at McDonald's.
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What are they doing?
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They don't eat the chips. They just have nuggets or
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the burger if they're at McDonald's. They don't eat the chips.
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That's weird, isn't it?
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Yeah. But I don't feel like I should try and
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get my kids into chips. No, you shouldn't be pushing them.
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Come on, finish your chips. Get them down, yeah.
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You're not getting off this table until you eat your chips.
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Yeah, eat all those chips.
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So have you been traveling a lot still since the
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babies have been born then?
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Or have you cut back?
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It's just when the baby was born, I kind of
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knew that, because it's only really me and Steph.
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So our families, her families are there up in Lancashire, Yorkshire.
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So they're four or five hours drive away. My parents
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are two and a half hours drive away. So it
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was just us. Like that was it.
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So those years, I love traveling. That was my life
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for 20 years.
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And I love it.
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But yeah, it was just.
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A conscious decision I moved all the companies to London
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um started new companies so I could focus on those
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uh and bring in bring in teams and.
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Is that an idea to stop you being out then?
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If you've got like, cause you've got your new company
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where I want to talk to you about. Well, where
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is your new sort of clothing line? Is it sort
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of going, okay, how can I establish work where I
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can be at home more rather than going out for
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shoots and stuff like that?
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Yeah.
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And if I do go, then it's a one night
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rule pretty much. So it doesn't matter where it is.
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Even if it's New York, it's out, get there in
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the morning, do the round, have one night, have another
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day and then come back again.
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Because I suppose as a model, is there a thing like,
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what's the progression? Because as you get older, you're obviously
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a very good looking man, but is there much work
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for older models?
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Well played, Rob. I was going to see how you're
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going to deal with it.
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Obviously, you're still very good looking now.
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I'm not saying you're not. But I'm just saying.
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Will you say what is that do you have to
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think of almost like a get out plan but.
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You could be like a silver fox couldn't you at
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60 i suppose there must be still like you like
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if your hair if your.
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Hair goes gray i suppose if not yeah do you
492
00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:53.210
have any trouble we can't recall yourself a silver fox
493
00:20:53.230 --> 00:20:53.910
if you've got brown.
494
00:20:53.750 --> 00:20:56.089
Hair you could do like walk-in baths and stuff like
495
00:20:56.150 --> 00:20:57.009
adverts for them.
496
00:20:57.650 --> 00:21:00.210
Instead of sterling just absolutely blue steel up.
497
00:21:00.170 --> 00:21:02.890
The stairs yeah men's nappies but.
498
00:21:03.210 --> 00:21:07.940
That was it shit yourself in style with David Gandy.
499
00:21:08.579 --> 00:21:10.420
Still on the dinghy.
500
00:21:12.859 --> 00:21:14.319
With brown pants instead of white ones.
501
00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:19.079
But because you're clothing, because I've been looking at it,
502
00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:23.859
it looks, I'd say, David, it is like the coolest,
503
00:21:24.119 --> 00:21:26.079
but quite comfy dad clothes.
504
00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:30.309
That's the vibe. Go to Wellwear. I looked at it.
505
00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:32.579
I was like, I like this because you look stylish,
506
00:21:32.619 --> 00:21:34.180
but it looks like soft cotton.
507
00:21:35.069 --> 00:21:36.990
Do you know what I mean? It looks comfy.
508
00:21:37.150 --> 00:21:39.529
It's pretty much what we did, Robin, in many ways,
509
00:21:39.609 --> 00:21:43.930
is we're going to go into the boring, psychological, scientific
510
00:21:43.970 --> 00:21:45.650
view of why we choose soft clothing.
511
00:21:45.670 --> 00:21:46.829
Please do.
512
00:21:46.890 --> 00:21:49.670
I want to know, because I'm all over a fleece,
513
00:21:49.890 --> 00:21:50.829
but I look like a prick.
514
00:21:50.849 --> 00:21:51.609
I want to look like you.
515
00:21:53.420 --> 00:21:55.230
If you want to go in scientific view, it's the
516
00:21:55.269 --> 00:21:57.930
same thing as when you say you stroke a dog
517
00:21:57.990 --> 00:22:01.309
or cat and oxytocin is released. It's that feel good
518
00:22:01.349 --> 00:22:06.099
factor of soft clothing. And there are scientific studies been
519
00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:09.420
done on students, people in workplaces in comfortable clothing and
520
00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:15.839
not comfortable clothing and productivity, the positivity, everything is increased.
521
00:22:16.619 --> 00:22:19.109
Students' exam results were better in comfortable clothing.
522
00:22:19.589 --> 00:22:21.069
Really? Oh, wow.
523
00:22:21.190 --> 00:22:23.930
It has a major impact, actually, on... And so do
524
00:22:23.970 --> 00:22:25.220
other things like sustainability.
525
00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:29.859
Oh, fuck that, mate. I want to feel comfy. I'm joking.
526
00:22:30.539 --> 00:22:32.690
I'm so joking. Basically.
527
00:22:33.410 --> 00:22:35.509
Everyone always thinks I'm in suits, I'm in tailoring. Well,
528
00:22:35.529 --> 00:22:37.089
we met in Savile Row. Of course, I love suits
529
00:22:37.109 --> 00:22:40.289
and tailoring. But predominantly, most of the time, I'm in
530
00:22:41.509 --> 00:22:47.759
sweatshirts or t-shirts or everyday looking after the children or
531
00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:50.339
going to the pub or doing all these different things.
532
00:22:51.819 --> 00:22:54.500
And I was always in T-shirt and jeans or sweatshirts.
533
00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:57.200
And it just got to a point where we were,
534
00:22:57.519 --> 00:22:59.319
I'd already done stuff with M & S anyway, which
535
00:22:59.420 --> 00:23:03.049
I was kind of known for, and then I just said, well,
536
00:23:03.069 --> 00:23:05.990
I want to change the narrative a bit and move
537
00:23:06.029 --> 00:23:09.009
that brand on. So we just did the ultimate, the
538
00:23:09.150 --> 00:23:12.009
ultimate T-shirts, the ultimate sweatshirts. And we did things like
539
00:23:12.049 --> 00:23:14.390
really simple things, which people think are genius, but I
540
00:23:14.410 --> 00:23:18.660
put side pockets in everything. so they're handy sweatshirts you
541
00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:20.460
had when you as a dad yeah you know you
542
00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:22.319
like i mean literally you go out and we don't
543
00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:24.099
have a bag do we like well you can't have
544
00:23:24.140 --> 00:23:26.240
a handbag i'm not judging but you know you don't
545
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:27.839
have a bag like a woman has back so you've
546
00:23:27.859 --> 00:23:30.619
got your kids stuff you've got a mobile phone and
547
00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:32.079
then like it goes keep it my unicorn in your
548
00:23:32.099 --> 00:23:35.859
pocket go unicorn got tissues got something else and it's
549
00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:40.289
it's that sort of utility yeah so we um We've
550
00:23:40.309 --> 00:23:44.829
worked on the comfort level is one, the sustainability of it.
551
00:23:45.829 --> 00:23:49.730
And then, yeah, really just the style as well, mixing
552
00:23:49.769 --> 00:23:52.190
those elements together because you still want to look stylish.
553
00:23:52.210 --> 00:23:53.920
Because I reckon that I could wear this to the
554
00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:57.859
school gates without people talking about it behind my back. Yeah,
555
00:23:58.299 --> 00:24:02.339
because that's my ultimate dream is to look comfy but presentable.
556
00:24:03.059 --> 00:24:06.529
Yeah, you're always one side or the other, aren't you, Rob? Exactly.
557
00:24:06.609 --> 00:24:08.769
I can never get the balance right. I think Gandhi's
558
00:24:08.809 --> 00:24:10.390
nailed it.
559
00:24:10.410 --> 00:24:13.930
Do you guys worry about the school drop-off and what
560
00:24:13.950 --> 00:24:14.410
you're wearing?
561
00:24:14.630 --> 00:24:14.950
Yes.
562
00:24:15.420 --> 00:24:18.500
I went in shorts the other day and it was too...
563
00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:20.680
There was too much chat about my legs.
564
00:24:21.180 --> 00:24:21.539
Shorts?
565
00:24:21.579 --> 00:24:23.799
It's been about minus four for two weeks. I'd been
566
00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:26.119
to the gym and I didn't have time to go home.
567
00:24:26.420 --> 00:24:28.450
And then people were like, you're wearing shorts. I was like,
568
00:24:28.470 --> 00:24:30.450
I've been to the gym. And they were like, oh,
569
00:24:30.529 --> 00:24:31.809
someone's been to the gym. And I'm like, I'm not
570
00:24:31.849 --> 00:24:33.089
making a statement about.
571
00:24:35.029 --> 00:24:37.910
I'm never going in shorts again. It was so controversial.
572
00:24:37.930 --> 00:24:39.690
I think all the losers at the school gates are
573
00:24:39.710 --> 00:24:42.359
just jealous, mate. Yeah, exactly. I can't help it if
574
00:24:42.380 --> 00:24:44.539
I've got good pins. You know how it is, David.
575
00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:49.819
got it or we haven't.
576
00:24:48.299 --> 00:24:49.859
Should i turn up in all sorts of stuff like
577
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:52.180
i've we've been building a house for years so i've
578
00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:54.140
been on like we're finally in but i've been on
579
00:24:54.180 --> 00:24:57.059
site and i mean like boots and a barber and
580
00:24:57.119 --> 00:25:00.180
a like strange sort of like outfits that have to
581
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:01.700
go i have to go into a meeting but they
582
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:04.490
have to be on site and yes like turned up
583
00:25:04.589 --> 00:25:06.789
in some and i've gone to the gym and then
584
00:25:06.829 --> 00:25:08.769
gone to do the school pickup as well so i.
585
00:25:09.029 --> 00:25:10.609
Bet no one's having a go at your legs though
586
00:25:10.630 --> 00:25:13.829
are they david unlike me No one's going, oh, hark.
587
00:25:13.529 --> 00:25:14.890
At him with his legs out.
588
00:25:15.130 --> 00:25:17.069
Wouldn't wear shorts.
589
00:25:17.269 --> 00:25:21.549
That's an error, as us two know, Josh. That's a
590
00:25:21.589 --> 00:25:22.769
couple of stylist guys.
591
00:25:23.450 --> 00:25:26.950
It was quite funny, actually. There's a couple of dads.
592
00:25:27.269 --> 00:25:29.700
I kind of call them the rogue dads. But no,
593
00:25:29.710 --> 00:25:33.799
it's true. And one of them, Tommy, he's very cool.
594
00:25:33.859 --> 00:25:36.079
He's a good friend of mine now. Very cool guy,
595
00:25:36.099 --> 00:25:37.660
like got the beard, the long.
596
00:25:37.500 --> 00:25:38.799
Hair, really handsome.
597
00:25:39.180 --> 00:25:41.130
And he said to me, the first time we went,
598
00:25:41.170 --> 00:25:43.109
so the first day at nursery, he said, you know.
599
00:25:43.130 --> 00:25:44.930
To the wife, I'm going to absolutely nail first. I'm
600
00:25:44.970 --> 00:25:45.490
going to be the.
601
00:25:45.470 --> 00:25:48.029
Coolest dad at school. So like turns up and he said,
602
00:25:48.049 --> 00:25:50.029
I've got it. And he said, and fucking David Gandy
603
00:25:50.069 --> 00:25:51.539
turns up in the sports car. Fuck my life.
604
00:25:57.619 --> 00:25:59.670
That's like something from a sitcom isn't it actually i
605
00:25:59.710 --> 00:26:01.390
think you know i'm the younger dad i'm gonna be
606
00:26:01.430 --> 00:26:04.089
one of the cooler ones candy rolls in so i've
607
00:26:04.109 --> 00:26:05.930
got to go straight to new york after this actually
608
00:26:05.950 --> 00:26:07.569
what are you doing just walking home are you having
609
00:26:07.589 --> 00:26:08.309
a coffee.
610
00:26:08.049 --> 00:26:11.670
One night um so is your eldest going to school.
611
00:26:11.450 --> 00:26:14.259
Soon she's uh yeah she'll go in september in.
612
00:26:14.210 --> 00:26:16.359
September and how you feeling about that looking forward to
613
00:26:16.380 --> 00:26:17.539
getting some time back or.
614
00:26:18.259 --> 00:26:21.680
Um i have this weird thing where um i hated
615
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:26.450
school Absolutely hated it. So I'm more nervous than she is.
616
00:26:26.670 --> 00:26:28.839
So I'm getting, when I walked in, so we've obviously
617
00:26:28.859 --> 00:26:30.519
been to see the schools and when we've had the
618
00:26:31.220 --> 00:26:34.839
meetings with the teachers, I'm going in having that pit
619
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.559
of my you know in the stomach feeling like i'm
620
00:26:37.579 --> 00:26:40.019
going back to school like you hear songs of praise
621
00:26:40.059 --> 00:26:41.859
on the sunday night you haven't done your homework.
622
00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:44.859
Yeah i know exactly how you feel i was exactly
623
00:26:44.900 --> 00:26:47.500
the same and i was petrified but she didn't give
624
00:26:47.539 --> 00:26:48.519
a shit and she loves it.
625
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:51.700
Yeah no exactly yeah so um she seems to be
626
00:26:51.740 --> 00:26:53.259
really looking forward to it and i'm i'm kind of
627
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:54.519
like a little bit.
628
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.170
Are you worried about passing your feelings on to her.
629
00:26:57.349 --> 00:26:59.829
No because i'm positive about it i think i because
630
00:26:59.869 --> 00:27:04.269
i think i had That experience, I know what it
631
00:27:04.329 --> 00:27:08.069
shouldn't be. I know how school should be. And my
632
00:27:08.109 --> 00:27:11.390
wife had absolutely astounding, you know, she loved school. We
633
00:27:11.410 --> 00:27:12.789
had very, very different upbringing.
634
00:27:12.849 --> 00:27:14.670
I don't get those people. I can't believe it. I
635
00:27:14.710 --> 00:27:17.359
liked school. I didn't love school. Love school's weird. Are
636
00:27:18.150 --> 00:27:20.839
you calling David Gandy's wife weird? No, I'm not calling
637
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:22.720
David Gandy's wife weird. Well, that's what you've just done.
638
00:27:22.740 --> 00:27:28.960
Don't tell anyone. I'm sure she'd get over it. She's
639
00:27:28.980 --> 00:27:30.950
married to David Gandy. She doesn't give a shit what
640
00:27:31.009 --> 00:27:34.490
I think. She's fucking cracked the code.
641
00:27:35.130 --> 00:27:37.390
People say that. They go, I love school.
642
00:27:37.450 --> 00:27:37.920
I didn't want to.
643
00:27:38.009 --> 00:27:40.599
I had people that didn't even want to leave school
644
00:27:40.619 --> 00:27:43.039
or leave university. I had friends that just kept on
645
00:27:43.059 --> 00:27:45.559
doing doctorates. So I don't think they wanted to get
646
00:27:45.579 --> 00:27:46.259
out of education.
647
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:47.180
I couldn't.
648
00:27:47.460 --> 00:27:48.960
I said the only thing I learned from university was
649
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:50.900
I shouldn't have gone to university. That's the only thing
650
00:27:50.940 --> 00:27:51.410
that I learned.
651
00:27:52.829 --> 00:27:54.670
You've done all right for yourself in the end, David,
652
00:27:54.730 --> 00:27:55.170
I'd say.
653
00:27:55.630 --> 00:27:56.910
Not by anything I learned at university.
654
00:27:56.950 --> 00:27:57.150
No.
655
00:27:57.170 --> 00:27:58.670
Not by anything I learned at school, to be honest.
656
00:27:58.690 --> 00:28:01.880
I'm still waiting to use something at school. Did you
657
00:28:01.910 --> 00:28:04.319
miss the week where you learned about soft fabrics? Because
658
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:06.059
that was one of my favorite weeks.
659
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:09.019
That science lesson about soft fabrics, wasn't it?
660
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:10.359
Yeah.
661
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:11.779
What did you do at uni then? What was you
662
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:17.319
studying at uni? I did multimedia computing. Right. What does
663
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:18.880
that mean? I don't know.
664
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:20.480
I didn't know what it meant in the first lecture either.
665
00:28:21.690 --> 00:28:23.990
That was before social media as well. I mean, just
666
00:28:24.009 --> 00:28:24.849
like PowerPoint.
667
00:28:24.970 --> 00:28:28.569
The teachers couldn't do it. It was moving at such
668
00:28:28.589 --> 00:28:30.049
a rate, they couldn't teach the same thing. So they
669
00:28:30.069 --> 00:28:31.690
were going, you really have to show us what's available,
670
00:28:31.730 --> 00:28:34.769
what you can do with stuff. I was the only person,
671
00:28:34.809 --> 00:28:37.349
I still remember it to this day, MM101, which was
672
00:28:37.390 --> 00:28:40.880
Multimedia 101. i was the only person there that didn't
673
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:42.819
have a laptop i mean i just bundled in.
674
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:43.079
From i.
675
00:28:45.779 --> 00:28:47.819
Just bundled in from freshers week and was not feeling
676
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:55.069
the best and then everyone's head's like coding yeah anyway
677
00:28:55.990 --> 00:28:57.390
uh we lasted a few years and i came to
678
00:28:57.410 --> 00:28:59.990
the fashion game and uh didn't really know what i
679
00:28:59.990 --> 00:29:02.269
was doing in there either but um the founder founder
680
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.339
Found a niche, should I say.
681
00:29:04.579 --> 00:29:07.079
With the kids, to go back on the earlier question
682
00:29:07.099 --> 00:29:09.339
I've established, would you like them to follow into the
683
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:09.960
fashion game?
684
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:12.019
There's nothing wrong with it.
685
00:29:12.059 --> 00:29:14.769
And I obviously came into the industry, I knew nothing
686
00:29:14.809 --> 00:29:15.109
about it.
687
00:29:15.180 --> 00:29:17.190
My family knew nothing about it.
688
00:29:17.309 --> 00:29:19.490
And we also sort of went down a path of
689
00:29:19.529 --> 00:29:23.289
branding that really no other male model had kind of
690
00:29:23.900 --> 00:29:26.299
yeah my step before we've run the boundaries of where
691
00:29:26.339 --> 00:29:28.369
other male models had gone to like try and rival
692
00:29:28.380 --> 00:29:31.930
the the female supermodel so i've always felt like i
693
00:29:31.930 --> 00:29:34.769
um not quite sure what i was doing and it
694
00:29:34.809 --> 00:29:37.799
was all on me. But if they wanted to, it's
695
00:29:37.819 --> 00:29:40.900
just that, to be honest, it's a different industry now.
696
00:29:41.700 --> 00:29:43.660
It's not the industry that we knew and the glamour
697
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:47.660
and everything else. It's a lot to do with influences and...
698
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:51.400
you know, your, your engagement on social media. And so
699
00:29:51.700 --> 00:29:54.220
it's completely, a completely changed industry.
700
00:29:54.950 --> 00:29:58.250
Um, so yes, I wouldn't, I personally have a bit
701
00:29:58.289 --> 00:30:01.230
of problem with people going into modeling before, but I mean,
702
00:30:01.269 --> 00:30:03.069
they can go in before they're 16, which I don't
703
00:30:03.109 --> 00:30:05.369
agree with that. You can go in at 16.
704
00:30:05.369 --> 00:30:08.019
Um, and then you don't have to have a, uh
705
00:30:08.059 --> 00:30:08.779
you know a book or.
706
00:30:08.740 --> 00:30:11.119
Anyone go with you after that i think that should be.
707
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.579
A lot older yeah um so i would always say
708
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.519
to my children listen 18 is the cutoff point if
709
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:20.559
you want to explore go and explore up until that
710
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:22.700
point you're not going anywhere near it of course i've
711
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.059
had everyone say can we do the shoots with the
712
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:27.180
kids can we do a campaign with the children but
713
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:30.849
i'm i keep um everything off of social and uh
714
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:34.250
yeah i want my kids to have a childhood really
715
00:30:34.329 --> 00:30:38.390
like normal i'm saying normal but um yeah you.
716
00:30:38.309 --> 00:30:40.849
Wouldn't want to exploit their experiences for a profit would
717
00:30:40.869 --> 00:30:42.910
you no we would never do that.
718
00:30:48.309 --> 00:30:50.289
We do keep them off the social media and something
719
00:30:50.349 --> 00:30:52.150
but for you it is all like the image of
720
00:30:52.190 --> 00:30:53.529
it and having to do photo shoots would be a
721
00:30:53.549 --> 00:30:56.089
lot of sort of pressure on them but i was
722
00:30:56.109 --> 00:30:58.150
thinking though like because of the lifestyle that you had
723
00:30:58.170 --> 00:31:00.099
you're doing 90 flights a year traveling all over the
724
00:31:00.140 --> 00:31:03.119
world did you think to a point will you ever
725
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.759
meet someone and settle down and have kids because it's
726
00:31:05.779 --> 00:31:09.650
not really the lifestyle for that kind of relationship is.
727
00:31:09.670 --> 00:31:13.109
It absolutely um i suppose you always hope you do
728
00:31:13.170 --> 00:31:15.390
you just adapt to the situation at the time.
729
00:31:15.230 --> 00:31:18.910
Really and um you know even when you know we're.
730
00:31:18.609 --> 00:31:20.950
In the relationship i'm still flying around and you just
731
00:31:20.990 --> 00:31:22.589
have to that that's your life that's what you have
732
00:31:22.609 --> 00:31:23.990
to do and you have to adapt to that and
733
00:31:24.269 --> 00:31:27.710
um Um, when you have kids, yeah, it was, it
734
00:31:27.950 --> 00:31:31.019
was adamant. I was just, I, I had positioned that
735
00:31:31.099 --> 00:31:33.079
so that I didn't have to be flying as much.
736
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:34.559
I'd love to be away. I mean, don't get me wrong.
737
00:31:34.579 --> 00:31:37.200
I mean, that is my life and I love doing it.
738
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:39.789
I was then suddenly going from doing that.
739
00:31:39.869 --> 00:31:40.650
I hate routine.
740
00:31:40.690 --> 00:31:41.509
I can't stand routine.
741
00:31:42.990 --> 00:31:46.390
And then I'm you are in student you know get
742
00:31:46.450 --> 00:31:47.990
up take a dog for a walk look after the
743
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.160
baby go and do some work go to the supermarket
744
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:54.299
come back and you're in this routine and I will
745
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:57.579
admit it you go what the fuck am I doing I.
746
00:31:57.769 --> 00:32:01.089
Know exactly what is this So, what is your routine
747
00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:01.490
now then?
748
00:32:01.730 --> 00:32:03.230
How are you splitting it?
749
00:32:03.309 --> 00:32:06.269
Oh, it's madness at the moment. It is honestly, honestly madness.
750
00:32:06.289 --> 00:32:09.130
We've been building a house for two years. There is
751
00:32:09.150 --> 00:32:12.410
no real routine. My other half is a barrister. So, again,
752
00:32:12.430 --> 00:32:13.230
you have a routine.
753
00:32:13.250 --> 00:32:13.609
You don't.
754
00:32:13.630 --> 00:32:14.950
We don't know when she's going to be in court,
755
00:32:14.990 --> 00:32:16.750
not be in court. I mean, she's literally come at
756
00:32:16.769 --> 00:32:17.849
this moment and said, you know what was me in
757
00:32:17.869 --> 00:32:19.789
court yesterday? Because they called it, I am in court now.
758
00:32:19.809 --> 00:32:19.869
So.
759
00:32:22.069 --> 00:32:25.480
You know, nursery runs, school runs, work, everything. She's in court.
760
00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:27.319
She can't do anything about it. She has to be.
761
00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:31.200
So I have to change my everything tomorrow. What's she
762
00:32:31.220 --> 00:32:33.089
been accused of? Bit of fun. Bit of fun.
763
00:32:35.750 --> 00:32:38.490
Prince Charles actually made that same, I've got to name,
764
00:32:39.930 --> 00:32:40.730
King Charles.
765
00:32:40.990 --> 00:32:41.609
I met him.
766
00:32:41.769 --> 00:32:45.539
He's got the same banner as King Charles on George Winnicott.
767
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:48.079
Did you? The King? That's worse. He made that joke
768
00:32:48.099 --> 00:32:48.940
and I met him.
769
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.259
We were in Scotland doing something with the British Wall.
770
00:32:52.700 --> 00:32:53.269
And I met him.
771
00:32:53.349 --> 00:32:55.609
I said, actually, I'm meeting you for Star Wars Soldiers.
772
00:32:55.690 --> 00:32:57.490
I'm a patron for it. And he said, I'll see
773
00:32:57.529 --> 00:32:59.809
you tonight. And I said, my other half will be there.
774
00:33:00.269 --> 00:33:02.910
And I mean, bless him. When he got to that party,
775
00:33:02.950 --> 00:33:06.180
he's probably met another 500 people that day. He said, David,
776
00:33:06.220 --> 00:33:08.980
remember my name? He said, where is like, is Stephanie here?
777
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:10.920
And I said, my God, you're like, you remember? I said,
778
00:33:10.940 --> 00:33:11.660
I'm so sorry.
779
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:14.039
And he says, um, she's in court.
780
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.019
And he said, Oh my goodness. What did she do?
781
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.210
But I thought it was very good.
782
00:33:19.250 --> 00:33:21.170
Like I've always been very, very fond of him. I
783
00:33:21.190 --> 00:33:22.049
like the cut of his jib.
784
00:33:22.450 --> 00:33:25.950
At least you're not doing Prince Philip's shtick. That'd get
785
00:33:25.970 --> 00:33:28.779
us in trouble, Josh. Let's keep it to Charles.
786
00:33:29.299 --> 00:33:30.980
Prince Charles would be a good guest. How are you
787
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:32.980
getting on with both your sons? Let's go through them
788
00:33:33.049 --> 00:33:35.609
one at a time.
789
00:33:36.250 --> 00:33:37.410
And your brother, how's he?
790
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.079
From that um i was gonna ask well though obviously
791
00:33:42.099 --> 00:33:44.009
your kids having a much different lifestyle to you now
792
00:33:44.029 --> 00:33:46.009
like you know you grew up in billericay do you
793
00:33:46.089 --> 00:33:48.309
ever take them back to billericay to see their roots.
794
00:33:48.670 --> 00:33:50.410
I don't go back that much i've still got all
795
00:33:50.450 --> 00:33:52.789
friends there they're still close friends my family my mom
796
00:33:52.829 --> 00:33:55.759
and dad moved from billericay they moved uh 13 14
797
00:33:55.750 --> 00:33:58.869
years ago um still in essex they're in the essex
798
00:33:58.950 --> 00:34:01.230
i've been born now billericay was i think i was
799
00:34:01.250 --> 00:34:03.470
saying this the other day to uh a couple of
800
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:05.539
the dads is that when i was i remember being
801
00:34:05.579 --> 00:34:08.460
nine or ten and i i would just leave i
802
00:34:08.500 --> 00:34:10.079
would leave like mom see you later and she'd be
803
00:34:10.099 --> 00:34:12.199
like yeah bye and i would be on roller skates
804
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:13.980
or a bike or something and i would go over
805
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.000
the other side of town to meet my friend anthony
806
00:34:16.579 --> 00:34:17.940
and my mom wouldn't know where i was all day
807
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:20.739
and then you know i would go back to anthony's
808
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:22.099
or anthony come back to us and then their moms
809
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:23.920
would go i'll call your mom's guys like tell them
810
00:34:23.940 --> 00:34:25.159
you don't want to stay for dinner yet stay for
811
00:34:25.179 --> 00:34:27.179
dinner and we'll drop you off later like the hot
812
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.980
like nine or ten just yeah yeah 12 hours we
813
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.360
i'm taking i haven't got a nine-year-old yet but i
814
00:34:32.539 --> 00:34:34.300
couldn't imagine No.
815
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.329
Or leave at 9 or 10. Yep, see you later.
816
00:34:36.349 --> 00:34:39.449
Have a good... Just walk across town on your roller skates.
817
00:34:40.449 --> 00:34:41.010
Off you go.
818
00:34:42.889 --> 00:34:47.590
So, yeah, it's a different upbringing. I wouldn't say it's
819
00:34:47.610 --> 00:34:51.230
vastly different. I mean, it's pretty normal. I had a
820
00:34:51.230 --> 00:34:55.780
pretty normal upbringing. And there's things that my parents have
821
00:34:55.860 --> 00:34:59.039
instilled into me. My father was keen for us to
822
00:34:59.099 --> 00:35:03.039
see a lot of education through travel. So he took
823
00:35:03.099 --> 00:35:05.840
us everywhere. So my dad had a very impoverished background.
824
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:07.960
and wanted to see the world. So, and I didn't
825
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.469
really appreciate that, I have to say. And we've been to,
826
00:35:10.809 --> 00:35:14.230
he took us to the Amazon and Alaska and Africa
827
00:35:14.269 --> 00:35:16.170
and all these different places. We did that and I
828
00:35:16.170 --> 00:35:20.500
never really appreciated that until actually I met David Attenborough
829
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:24.719
and I spoke to him about being amongst gorillas and
830
00:35:24.739 --> 00:35:26.920
tracking for gorillas there's not that many people that can
831
00:35:26.940 --> 00:35:29.619
do that but that's where it's.
832
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:32.239
Like listen to your mom and dad they do actually.
833
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:33.440
Know what they're talking about i remember going to my
834
00:35:33.460 --> 00:35:35.730
dad once i was about 17 and i had 11
835
00:35:35.730 --> 00:35:38.210
my first girl was 11 year old for the fiesta
836
00:35:38.630 --> 00:35:40.210
the windows didn't work i went on a date a
837
00:35:40.250 --> 00:35:43.369
couple times the window didn't go down and then the
838
00:35:43.489 --> 00:35:45.179
uh the door latches broke so she had to get
839
00:35:45.219 --> 00:35:46.340
out through the sunroof.
840
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:50.559
That was it And I was furious about it.
841
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.139
I was like, dad, this car, it's like, and then
842
00:35:53.219 --> 00:35:53.679
so we're chatting.
843
00:35:53.699 --> 00:35:55.460
I said, dad, when we are going on these holidays,
844
00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:58.559
I said, they obviously cost, you know, a decent amount
845
00:35:58.579 --> 00:35:58.900
of money.
846
00:35:59.059 --> 00:36:01.860
And he said, yeah, of course, David. He said, I said,
847
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:03.679
so could I maybe.
848
00:36:03.500 --> 00:36:06.500
Not come on holiday? And I put that money towards
849
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.940
a car. Now my dad, without even blinking, sort of said, David,
850
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:13.619
you don't have to come on holiday, but you're not
851
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.300
getting a new car. So you decide whether you want
852
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:18.369
to sit on your own. during the summer or whether
853
00:36:18.389 --> 00:36:19.829
you want to go. I said, I think I'll come
854
00:36:19.849 --> 00:36:20.090
on holiday.
855
00:36:20.130 --> 00:36:22.199
He went, good, just get out of my office.
856
00:36:22.380 --> 00:36:25.699
And that was basically it.
857
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.099
So it was a different, yeah, it was parents know best.
858
00:36:28.179 --> 00:36:29.820
And the first thing where I met David Attenborough, went
859
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.219
to dad and went, I was just able to speak
860
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:34.239
to David Attenborough about being amongst gorillas.
861
00:36:34.579 --> 00:36:35.420
And he said, there you go.
862
00:36:35.739 --> 00:36:37.420
Do you want to take your kids traveling a lot
863
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:38.860
as well? Is that something you want to put with
864
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:39.099
your kids?
865
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.530
Have you taken them anywhere yet? Like, I know they're young.
866
00:36:41.550 --> 00:36:44.710
I'm going to sound bloke. You see, there's this one
867
00:36:44.730 --> 00:36:48.760
thing where... I'm very conscious, especially I suppose.
868
00:36:48.510 --> 00:36:50.429
With my upbringing, is that I want my children to
869
00:36:50.449 --> 00:36:51.809
know the value of money and I want them to
870
00:36:51.849 --> 00:36:55.489
work and I want them to graft. I want them to,
871
00:36:55.690 --> 00:36:57.989
things aren't given to them. I'm doing a terrible job
872
00:36:58.010 --> 00:37:04.429
at that at the moment. I mean, my daughter learned,
873
00:37:04.510 --> 00:37:06.510
and this is going to sound so pretentious, my daughter
874
00:37:06.530 --> 00:37:08.469
learned to walk her first steps on a beach in
875
00:37:08.510 --> 00:37:09.130
Turks and Caicos.
876
00:37:09.909 --> 00:37:14.489
And that's quite uneven, that sand. So she's got good stability,
877
00:37:14.510 --> 00:37:16.650
good balance. It's like the Brazilian footballers. When they learn
878
00:37:16.690 --> 00:37:18.429
on a beach, they're actually better when they then get
879
00:37:18.449 --> 00:37:21.159
on the pitch. She'll be a superb walker on grass.
880
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:22.340
Yeah, she is.
881
00:37:22.380 --> 00:37:24.559
They learn very early. And I look at that and.
882
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.300
she's on the wrong, she's like, it's the right end
883
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:29.719
of the plane, but the wrong end of the plane,
884
00:37:29.739 --> 00:37:30.380
she shouldn't be here.
885
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.960
Um, and I just think these things all the time.
886
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:34.840
And I just think, no, and I'm angry, angry.
887
00:37:34.860 --> 00:37:37.099
Like she's, she's just going to get used to this
888
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.219
and think that this is how people live in this.
889
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:39.900
You don't have to.
890
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:40.320
Yeah.
891
00:37:40.420 --> 00:37:41.400
I was watching Jerry.
892
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:44.409
Seinfeld today and he was, he's been to everything that
893
00:37:44.449 --> 00:37:45.909
comedians and cars would copy.
894
00:37:45.949 --> 00:37:46.150
Yeah.
895
00:37:46.510 --> 00:37:48.309
Good show. And he was, uh, and he said to,
896
00:37:48.349 --> 00:37:50.710
I was getting into, and his daughter said, are we rich?
897
00:37:51.250 --> 00:37:53.710
And he said, well, I am. Yeah.
898
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.650
I thought that was a good answer. But yeah, it's
899
00:37:59.690 --> 00:38:02.530
that element to all those things like I want to
900
00:38:02.550 --> 00:38:03.809
know the value of money and want them to work
901
00:38:03.869 --> 00:38:06.530
and just not that everything is just done for you
902
00:38:06.989 --> 00:38:08.670
really at the end of the day. I think that
903
00:38:08.690 --> 00:38:11.659
was instilled in. I worked. I was a pizza deliverer.
904
00:38:12.900 --> 00:38:15.320
I worked voluntarily at a dog sanctuary when I was
905
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.380
like 15, 16. I paid my dues in many ways
906
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.139
of understanding that you have to work for stuff and
907
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:22.800
you have to graft.
908
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:25.090
Well, you know, you've got, you've grafted in your career
909
00:38:25.110 --> 00:38:26.530
as well. Like you say, when you first come into it,
910
00:38:26.530 --> 00:38:29.090
you were treading new ground really. Cause it was the
911
00:38:29.110 --> 00:38:32.030
female supermodels, but not, not the men. And you sort of,
912
00:38:32.050 --> 00:38:34.429
you know, establish yourself. And even then you've got to
913
00:38:34.469 --> 00:38:37.099
this level, you're still like starting new brands and stuff
914
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.860
like that. But I think sometimes when you want to
915
00:38:39.900 --> 00:38:42.099
show your kid what you're doing, it's like, they'll see
916
00:38:42.139 --> 00:38:42.800
from how you are.
917
00:38:42.900 --> 00:38:43.360
Hopefully.
918
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:45.190
But yeah, I think great example.
919
00:38:45.449 --> 00:38:48.309
Right, you can't really tell anyone anything. You show them.
920
00:38:48.349 --> 00:38:50.030
And I think when they get a bit older and
921
00:38:50.110 --> 00:38:50.889
see that you're grafted.
922
00:38:50.929 --> 00:38:53.300
Exactly. My daughter's going to see how stressed I am
923
00:38:53.380 --> 00:38:54.420
and go, I want that life.
924
00:38:54.980 --> 00:38:58.820
I want someone who's constantly panicking about their career.
925
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:00.019
That's what I'm looking for.
926
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.329
Laying in bed at 9pm listening to brown noise crying.
927
00:39:03.349 --> 00:39:04.750
That's the lifestyle I want.
928
00:39:10.170 --> 00:39:11.969
You've mentioned a couple of times like the parents at
929
00:39:12.010 --> 00:39:12.730
nursery and stuff.
930
00:39:12.769 --> 00:39:14.289
Are you heavily... Are you.
931
00:39:14.309 --> 00:39:16.929
Because I'd say there's a difference between me and Rob.
932
00:39:17.230 --> 00:39:20.170
I'm quite into being the kind of amongst the parents
933
00:39:20.210 --> 00:39:22.670
and the WhatsApp groups and stuff. Rob hates all the
934
00:39:22.690 --> 00:39:24.369
other parents and he won't deny that.
935
00:39:24.389 --> 00:39:27.670
I don't hate them all. I'm busy, and I play
936
00:39:27.690 --> 00:39:30.190
football with them, but I'm not organizing drinks.
937
00:39:30.230 --> 00:39:34.050
Rob hates all the other parents. So where are you?
938
00:39:34.429 --> 00:39:37.840
My other half calls me socially inept, for a start.
939
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.579
That might give you an idea of... I'm quite a loner,
940
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.820
so my wife is brilliant at social elements.
941
00:39:44.380 --> 00:39:46.670
She's great, so she's involved in that whole thing. I.
942
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:53.000
Like I have, I think we've chosen, we're choosing each other.
943
00:39:53.019 --> 00:39:55.599
I call them kind of like the rogue element. So
944
00:39:55.659 --> 00:39:58.909
the dads that will go to the pub and they'll
945
00:39:58.929 --> 00:40:00.710
have a few jokes and we'll take the kids to
946
00:40:00.730 --> 00:40:02.510
a lunch, but we know it's actually really a bit
947
00:40:02.550 --> 00:40:03.010
of a booty.
948
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:05.230
Yeah, yeah.
949
00:40:05.869 --> 00:40:09.130
And yeah, the same sort of mindset. I'm very obviously
950
00:40:09.150 --> 00:40:11.630
polite and nice to everyone. I won't know people. We've
951
00:40:11.650 --> 00:40:13.489
been there for a few years now. My wife will
952
00:40:13.510 --> 00:40:15.070
still say the names of the children and the mom
953
00:40:15.090 --> 00:40:16.170
and dad. I'll be like, which one's that?
954
00:40:16.210 --> 00:40:17.010
Who's that?
955
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:18.050
Oh, my word.
956
00:40:18.179 --> 00:40:20.099
If I had a game, if I had to match
957
00:40:20.139 --> 00:40:22.360
the children to the parents, that would be one of
958
00:40:22.380 --> 00:40:24.940
the worst days of my life. If they were all
959
00:40:25.019 --> 00:40:27.079
lined up outside the school and I had to give
960
00:40:27.099 --> 00:40:28.599
the children to the right parents.
961
00:40:28.780 --> 00:40:29.280
Could you do it?
962
00:40:29.940 --> 00:40:33.110
No, no, no, no. Apart from, yeah, there's a few.
963
00:40:33.469 --> 00:40:36.150
And actually, I have to say, the ones that my
964
00:40:36.190 --> 00:40:38.989
wife has forced me to talk to and.
965
00:40:38.889 --> 00:40:41.230
Socialize with have become good friends.
966
00:40:41.329 --> 00:40:43.969
And I think there's something you've got a lot in
967
00:40:44.030 --> 00:40:45.090
common when you.
968
00:40:46.690 --> 00:40:48.070
You know a lot of friends if they haven't got.
969
00:40:47.989 --> 00:40:51.550
Children they just don't understand they can't yeah they can't
970
00:40:51.570 --> 00:40:53.139
get the factors they go oh we'll pop around we'd
971
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.119
love to see the kids i go okay but you've
972
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:58.539
got a window of when you want to pop around
973
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:01.340
and they go and then it kind of like so
974
00:41:01.380 --> 00:41:02.840
get her at five or get her a half past
975
00:41:02.860 --> 00:41:04.659
four because they're having dinner at half five and then
976
00:41:04.699 --> 00:41:06.619
after that it's kind of like bedtime and we're putting
977
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.300
kids to bed and they go yep got it and
978
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:09.989
then at six o'clock they turn up and i'm like
979
00:41:10.030 --> 00:41:11.929
oh you you've bugged it all up now that's.
980
00:41:11.889 --> 00:41:16.239
Like I can't enjoy this now because you've ruined the routine.
981
00:41:16.820 --> 00:41:19.119
You're going to be downstairs without us while we try and.
982
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:21.179
Get crying children to bed. Yeah, absolutely.
983
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:25.949
You fucking morons. I told you come round at five.
984
00:41:26.070 --> 00:41:28.389
I just did that for a laugh, dear. I plucked
985
00:41:28.429 --> 00:41:29.610
that out the air.
986
00:41:30.030 --> 00:41:30.849
You cretins.
987
00:41:32.289 --> 00:41:34.849
It's like my friends, they were walking across the other
988
00:41:34.869 --> 00:41:37.269
dinner and they said, well, we'll walk from Richmond and
989
00:41:37.289 --> 00:41:37.849
meet you halfway.
990
00:41:37.869 --> 00:41:40.679
I was like, great. They then walked for like 40
991
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:42.480
minutes and I still wasn't there.
992
00:41:42.500 --> 00:41:43.260
They went, where are you?
993
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:46.340
I was having a half an hour because my daughter
994
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.780
had a tantrum because she didn't want to change her tights.
995
00:41:50.380 --> 00:41:53.110
But she did want to change her tights, but didn't
996
00:41:53.150 --> 00:41:55.570
want to change the tights. So I put some warm
997
00:41:55.630 --> 00:41:57.550
trousers on because it's freezing outside, but she didn't want
998
00:41:57.570 --> 00:41:59.469
to wear trousers because trousers don't go with her dress.
999
00:41:59.949 --> 00:42:01.750
And it was this, and I wasn't giving, and then
1000
00:42:01.769 --> 00:42:02.949
she was like, I don't want to go out now.
1001
00:42:02.969 --> 00:42:04.639
I was like, well, we're going out, so you're not
1002
00:42:04.659 --> 00:42:07.940
sitting watching television. And I was adamant I wasn't giving
1003
00:42:07.980 --> 00:42:10.059
up this argument, and my kind of other heart walked in,
1004
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:12.840
into this kind of, and she was just like, oh, right,
1005
00:42:12.860 --> 00:42:14.269
I'm going to leave you two guys for this one.
1006
00:42:14.309 --> 00:42:15.909
I was like, yes, because I've got to be strong
1007
00:42:15.949 --> 00:42:18.769
on this one. I'm not going to break it. And
1008
00:42:18.789 --> 00:42:20.449
then we would walk out and they would walk over.
1009
00:42:20.489 --> 00:42:22.530
So five minutes later, I walked into the park for
1010
00:42:22.550 --> 00:42:23.690
two minutes and then we came back home and had
1011
00:42:23.710 --> 00:42:24.150
a cup of coffee.
1012
00:42:24.170 --> 00:42:24.869
I was like, well, that's it.
1013
00:42:24.969 --> 00:42:27.230
So that's... That's that done.
1014
00:42:27.949 --> 00:42:30.170
Made my point.
1015
00:42:30.190 --> 00:42:32.489
Made the kid cry. I cried. Went into the park
1016
00:42:32.510 --> 00:42:32.909
for two minutes.
1017
00:42:32.949 --> 00:42:35.050
All come back. Everyone hates each other. What a lovely
1018
00:42:35.090 --> 00:42:36.289
Saturday at minus three.
1019
00:42:37.250 --> 00:42:38.739
The dog hasn't got walks. She's angry with me.
1020
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:40.780
My daughter's angry with me because she can't.
1021
00:42:40.610 --> 00:42:41.239
Wear the tights.
1022
00:42:41.820 --> 00:42:45.150
My wife's angry at me because... She's just angry at me,
1023
00:42:45.349 --> 00:42:47.150
just generally.
1024
00:42:47.849 --> 00:42:49.849
There is a slight resentment that I think lingers for
1025
00:42:49.889 --> 00:42:52.699
about six, seven years from your partner. They're just sort
1026
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:56.239
of general, like, disdain and disgust that I get from
1027
00:42:56.460 --> 00:42:57.019
Lou's eyes.
1028
00:42:57.260 --> 00:42:59.159
You put a time limit on that, though. So is
1029
00:42:59.179 --> 00:43:00.900
there light at the end of the tunnel, Rob?
1030
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.320
She's all over me now. She can't get enough of me.
1031
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:08.679
That's what you think as well. It's like a house
1032
00:43:08.699 --> 00:43:11.849
full of women, including the dog. There is a point
1033
00:43:11.869 --> 00:43:16.570
where I get ignored by everyone. So even like my baby, Tab,
1034
00:43:16.590 --> 00:43:19.630
she's one. If she bumps her head or falls over,
1035
00:43:19.650 --> 00:43:22.550
that hurts herself slightly. I could be nowhere near this.
1036
00:43:22.969 --> 00:43:25.929
She blames me for it. She stares at me in
1037
00:43:25.989 --> 00:43:27.840
like detest of like.
1038
00:43:28.340 --> 00:43:28.820
I don't know what it is.
1039
00:43:28.820 --> 00:43:31.019
I'm like, it's not me. I wasn't anywhere near that.
1040
00:43:31.699 --> 00:43:33.800
She's like, she just turns away from me.
1041
00:43:33.820 --> 00:43:36.059
I'm like, it's your curse that you're in the only
1042
00:43:36.179 --> 00:43:38.300
house of women in the world that wouldn't want David
1043
00:43:38.340 --> 00:43:43.869
Gandy to be there. like every other house of women
1044
00:43:43.909 --> 00:43:46.809
delighted day we can hang around long enough to become
1045
00:43:46.849 --> 00:43:48.090
the villain david that's all.
1046
00:43:48.070 --> 00:43:50.030
Right i've got it i've got it even i've got
1047
00:43:50.050 --> 00:43:51.480
it i've got to get a dog like a dog
1048
00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:52.920
like a male dog i've got to.
1049
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:58.420
Get one just so to watch the football with yeah do.
1050
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.659
Your daughters like my daughters are going for a stage
1051
00:44:00.699 --> 00:44:03.610
now they won't hug me because my beard's scratchy And
1052
00:44:03.650 --> 00:44:05.469
they hate that. That's something I'm struggling with at the
1053
00:44:05.489 --> 00:44:06.710
moment to the point where I have to pull a
1054
00:44:06.730 --> 00:44:09.110
jumper over my face, which I think is worse. And
1055
00:44:09.139 --> 00:44:10.460
then they'll do it. But now I feel like they're
1056
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:11.900
just doing it because they find it funny because I'm
1057
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:12.159
so pathetic.
1058
00:44:12.179 --> 00:44:13.739
Show me what you mean by pull a jumper over
1059
00:44:13.780 --> 00:44:14.219
your face.
1060
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:15.960
So I can't really do it with this one as such.
1061
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:17.010
But like if I had a bit more of a
1062
00:44:17.050 --> 00:44:17.670
looser one.
1063
00:44:17.690 --> 00:44:18.469
Like that?
1064
00:44:18.929 --> 00:44:20.170
Yeah, a bit like you just pull it over a
1065
00:44:20.170 --> 00:44:23.789
bit like a balaclava. and then I can hug me
1066
00:44:23.809 --> 00:44:25.949
there and then my beard's my beard's covered.
1067
00:44:25.889 --> 00:44:29.000
That is that's pathetic mental scars there.
1068
00:44:28.860 --> 00:44:32.050
Is that it's like my daughter there is this routine
1069
00:44:32.690 --> 00:44:35.929
in bed where that I kind of I've always done
1070
00:44:35.949 --> 00:44:38.789
the bedtimes where it's now like pajamas on.
1071
00:44:38.809 --> 00:44:41.550
You get one video to watch on my phone whilst
1072
00:44:41.590 --> 00:44:43.530
I'm in pajamas on because you can't work out. Otherwise,
1073
00:44:43.769 --> 00:44:45.989
they're jumping around. They can't get your legs in later.
1074
00:44:46.250 --> 00:44:46.889
So you get one video.
1075
00:44:46.909 --> 00:44:48.210
You get one video. That's fine.
1076
00:44:48.429 --> 00:44:51.380
It's then two stories. It's then have a little conversation
1077
00:44:51.389 --> 00:44:54.619
about stories. And then she leans on my arm and
1078
00:44:54.699 --> 00:44:56.980
she has a back tickle and then she's asleep. and
1079
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.179
it's like a half an hour but i'd rather go
1080
00:44:59.219 --> 00:45:01.539
through that than we've had other parents here that leave
1081
00:45:01.579 --> 00:45:04.019
their kids in beds with ipads or phones.
1082
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.179
Yes and i'm like no i'll go through my half
1083
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:07.599
an hour and then i know i'm good for the
1084
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.860
evening but the last two nights is she's always like
1085
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:12.559
she said daddy i'd lay on your arm lay on
1086
00:45:12.579 --> 00:45:13.880
your arm she goes and then for the last two
1087
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.320
nights she's gone your arm's too hot daddy.
1088
00:45:16.579 --> 00:45:20.010
And turned over and i'm that's killed me and i'm
1089
00:45:20.050 --> 00:45:24.650
like yes and i don't know but before.
1090
00:45:24.409 --> 00:45:25.809
That i've been moaning about her like oh why do
1091
00:45:25.829 --> 00:45:27.650
you have to allow my like into myself like oh
1092
00:45:27.730 --> 00:45:29.789
i've had to disarm and that's the routine and when
1093
00:45:29.829 --> 00:45:31.969
she says i don't want to do it i'm devastated
1094
00:45:32.110 --> 00:45:32.570
and i'm like.
1095
00:45:32.510 --> 00:45:34.949
Oh i know don't do that and then and then
1096
00:45:34.969 --> 00:45:37.369
when i get a bit older david like i was
1097
00:45:37.389 --> 00:45:40.210
like oh it'll get easier like but actually i'm finding
1098
00:45:40.230 --> 00:45:43.389
it harder because they get clever because they can negotiate
1099
00:45:43.449 --> 00:45:45.849
so it'll be like no three videos for that and
1100
00:45:45.869 --> 00:45:47.710
then it'll be like oh actually let's have a song
1101
00:45:47.730 --> 00:45:49.210
so they started going oh well can we have a
1102
00:45:49.250 --> 00:45:51.050
song on like the Alexa thing and they dance and
1103
00:45:51.070 --> 00:45:52.639
sing along to the song before bedtime, which is quite
1104
00:45:52.659 --> 00:45:54.559
a bad idea because they get all amped up.
1105
00:45:54.579 --> 00:45:56.320
Just wind them down by getting them to dance and
1106
00:45:56.340 --> 00:45:57.699
sing along to a song on Alexa.
1107
00:45:57.800 --> 00:45:59.280
And then they go, well, let me pick a song.
1108
00:45:59.340 --> 00:46:00.699
And then the other one will go, well, she picked
1109
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:02.320
a song. I need to pick a song now. And
1110
00:46:02.340 --> 00:46:03.929
then they go, well, you need to pick a song.
1111
00:46:03.969 --> 00:46:05.349
I'm like, I don't want to pick a song, but
1112
00:46:05.369 --> 00:46:06.949
it's only fair. I'm like, all right, I'll pick a
1113
00:46:06.969 --> 00:46:08.190
song then. And they're like, well, we need to do
1114
00:46:08.210 --> 00:46:12.590
the family song. I'm like, this never ends. And you're
1115
00:46:12.630 --> 00:46:15.949
so tired and weak. They're just like in your brain.
1116
00:46:16.010 --> 00:46:17.710
And I can't compete.
1117
00:46:18.170 --> 00:46:18.880
It's so hard.
1118
00:46:18.929 --> 00:46:20.460
But when you've got a routine like you've got at
1119
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.559
the moment, that is a sweet spot, I think.
1120
00:46:22.579 --> 00:46:23.940
It depends on the song you're choosing.
1121
00:46:23.980 --> 00:46:24.429
What do you go?
1122
00:46:24.460 --> 00:46:25.599
I want all by myself.
1123
00:46:25.900 --> 00:46:28.079
That's what I'm going to do. Yeah, yeah. When a
1124
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:31.489
man loves a woman. Percy Sledge trying to get him
1125
00:46:31.510 --> 00:46:31.909
to sleep.
1126
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:37.429
So, yeah, it's just a routine thing that we do.
1127
00:46:37.469 --> 00:46:41.909
But I love children negotiating where they don't actually realize.
1128
00:46:42.050 --> 00:46:44.500
So I go, all right, five minutes. And they go, three.
1129
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:45.960
And you go, OK, three is better.
1130
00:46:46.380 --> 00:46:47.079
Yeah, right.
1131
00:46:48.900 --> 00:46:53.949
Eat five more bits of pasta seven fine I'm glad
1132
00:46:53.969 --> 00:46:58.269
you do that three more bits the deal on the.
1133
00:46:58.230 --> 00:47:00.769
Pasta is that a bad thing to be.
1134
00:47:00.730 --> 00:47:03.360
Doing three bits of pasta one bit of avocado one
1135
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:06.880
carrot and then I'm terrible I never thought I'd like
1136
00:47:06.900 --> 00:47:09.630
the bribing thing yeah i've taken that one like if.
1137
00:47:09.590 --> 00:47:13.050
You do that you get an ice cream yeah pudding
1138
00:47:13.090 --> 00:47:14.710
yeah but the other day was i was trying to
1139
00:47:14.730 --> 00:47:17.000
get to finish a pizza to have pudding but a
1140
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:18.960
pudding was watermelon i'm like surely.
1141
00:47:18.739 --> 00:47:23.539
Just give it a watermelon that's Stop giving her pizza
1142
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:25.219
and let her have the fruit. The fruit's all right.
1143
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:27.780
It's not like she was going to have a tiramisu
1144
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.659
or something. So is there certain foods your kids are into?
1145
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:32.989
Are they just eating anything? Mine are quite picky. They
1146
00:47:33.349 --> 00:47:35.610
don't even like chips, though. Yeah, they don't like chips.
1147
00:47:35.650 --> 00:47:37.070
They're quite good. Plain pasta.
1148
00:47:37.210 --> 00:47:40.289
My other half is half Greek, so.
1149
00:47:42.110 --> 00:47:44.760
Yeah, I mean, we're used to around the house having
1150
00:47:45.420 --> 00:47:47.980
olives and big beans and stuff like that.
1151
00:47:48.619 --> 00:47:49.199
Big beans?
1152
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.739
They're called big beans. Even in Greece, they're.
1153
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:53.179
Called big beans.
1154
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:53.539
Oh, big beans.
1155
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.010
I've never had a big bean in a Greek salad.
1156
00:47:56.489 --> 00:48:00.650
Big beans. What do you mean, big beans? I can't imagine. Sure,
1157
00:48:00.690 --> 00:48:04.380
she's Greek. The Greek... I've been to Greece, I didn't
1158
00:48:04.420 --> 00:48:07.260
see one big bean, did I? I'd say average beans
1159
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:07.599
in Greece.
1160
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:09.440
They come out of a can, it says Heinz, and
1161
00:48:09.500 --> 00:48:14.900
it's Greek, that's big beans. No, I'm honestly just joking.
1162
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.360
I've googled big beans Greek.
1163
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:20.969
Yeah, and I now make those because she's Greek and
1164
00:48:21.030 --> 00:48:23.809
they're something that in Greece you're eating that's delicious.
1165
00:48:24.429 --> 00:48:26.630
It's like a gnocchi size. Oh, I know, a big bean.
1166
00:48:26.829 --> 00:48:28.909
Yeah, sorry.
1167
00:48:29.110 --> 00:48:33.389
Yeah, they're not olives. They'll eat olives and avocados and
1168
00:48:33.409 --> 00:48:35.699
stuff like that. Feta? Feta? Yeah.
1169
00:48:36.099 --> 00:48:40.320
I mean, this sounds terrible. She has either a croissant
1170
00:48:40.539 --> 00:48:41.780
or a pan of chocolate every morning.
1171
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:44.119
We went for a croissant face.
1172
00:48:44.539 --> 00:48:47.030
A 40-year-old divorcee that.
1173
00:48:46.949 --> 00:48:53.860
Works in media. Yeah. She has a latte as well, Rob.
1174
00:48:54.869 --> 00:48:59.289
She can't get started if she has a latte. That's not... That's.
1175
00:48:59.139 --> 00:49:02.539
Oat milk latte.
1176
00:49:02.739 --> 00:49:04.800
No, it's not terrible, but at the same time, it's like,
1177
00:49:05.219 --> 00:49:07.500
I don't know, cornflakes or Frosties. Yeah.
1178
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.139
A slice of toast or something. It's probably better than Frosties.
1179
00:49:10.420 --> 00:49:11.800
It's probably better than Frosties.
1180
00:49:11.860 --> 00:49:14.570
I can hear myself again in the morning. Would you
1181
00:49:14.590 --> 00:49:16.050
like a butter croissant or would you like a pan
1182
00:49:16.070 --> 00:49:16.570
of chocolate?
1183
00:49:16.630 --> 00:49:18.769
I'm like, what am I doing? What am I doing? Cheers.
1184
00:49:20.489 --> 00:49:22.239
Bagel my daughter has a buttered bagel the other one
1185
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.320
has but a jam on toast but i think jam
1186
00:49:24.380 --> 00:49:26.500
on toast is just like the english croissant or pan
1187
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:29.159
of chocolate it's not fancy though is it it's a
1188
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:32.159
bit of chocolate in the middle of some butter I know.
1189
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:33.219
Yeah.
1190
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:36.070
Because growing up, it was like, oh, you're a bit fancy. Actually,
1191
00:49:36.090 --> 00:49:38.530
it's just sort of normal food in France. No one
1192
00:49:38.550 --> 00:49:40.269
in France is going to look at this posh kid.
1193
00:49:44.059 --> 00:49:46.699
I don't think we're too strict. I would rather my children...
1194
00:49:47.619 --> 00:49:51.210
uh eat something they enjoy rather than trying to force
1195
00:49:51.250 --> 00:49:54.469
them yeah yeah what i presume yeah we will be
1196
00:49:54.489 --> 00:49:56.230
doing it's i think social media got a lot to
1197
00:49:56.250 --> 00:49:57.409
do with our life i feel.
1198
00:49:57.269 --> 00:50:00.650
Like your life your life changed david from your background
1199
00:50:00.670 --> 00:50:02.409
to where you are now and you're struggling with your
1200
00:50:02.449 --> 00:50:05.059
class i'd recommend a class act by rob beckett a
1201
00:50:05.099 --> 00:50:08.539
book that explores the nature of class and the impact
1202
00:50:08.619 --> 00:50:09.699
on people and their children.
1203
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:10.880
I'd say it's a great read.
1204
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:14.880
There's 200 pages on his first croissant. It's unbelievable stuff.
1205
00:50:14.900 --> 00:50:15.119
Yeah.
1206
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.849
3,000 words less than Prince Harry talking about Apache helicopters.
1207
00:50:17.889 --> 00:50:22.849
Oh, my God. Don't talk to me. Kids TV. Do
1208
00:50:22.889 --> 00:50:23.349
you watch it?
1209
00:50:23.730 --> 00:50:27.110
Yes what's your favorites and what oh but it progresses
1210
00:50:27.150 --> 00:50:29.190
doesn't it about what you what you you know from
1211
00:50:29.230 --> 00:50:31.989
when they're young to uh so coca melon we're back
1212
00:50:32.030 --> 00:50:33.170
on to coca melon.
1213
00:50:33.179 --> 00:50:35.639
Okay yeah oh that's a tough that's a tough one
1214
00:50:35.659 --> 00:50:38.340
that one i feel when i talk about kids programs
1215
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:42.679
i feel like four ex-cons talking about prisons but i
1216
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:46.619
did a fourth stretch of bill marshall he's been on
1217
00:50:46.900 --> 00:50:53.760
he's done two years on coca melon you what baby
1218
00:50:53.820 --> 00:50:57.579
jake was my belmarsh baby jake i did.
1219
00:50:57.389 --> 00:50:59.989
So you're on cocoa melon yeah cocoa melon uh dougie
1220
00:51:00.070 --> 00:51:03.110
i enjoy yeah dougie i can take there's certain ones
1221
00:51:03.170 --> 00:51:07.309
i can i will watch also blue we've done they're.
1222
00:51:07.110 --> 00:51:09.190
Still quite young though aren't they one or four.
1223
00:51:09.250 --> 00:51:12.659
Yeah so we're um like they they love like the
1224
00:51:12.699 --> 00:51:16.530
frozen thing um so in the car on the way
1225
00:51:16.550 --> 00:51:18.730
to is singing and i will do it as well
1226
00:51:19.309 --> 00:51:22.510
like it's either frozen umawana or yeah i can't remember
1227
00:51:22.530 --> 00:51:25.289
the other one was um there's like three days.
1228
00:51:25.070 --> 00:51:26.800
But encanto yes that's the one.
1229
00:51:26.780 --> 00:51:29.300
Yeah so it's those three but not that they sit
1230
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.639
and really watch the films it's more just the music
1231
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:33.739
in the car that we enjoy.
1232
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:36.619
So what about twirly woos have you done the twirly woos.
1233
00:51:36.829 --> 00:51:39.349
I quite like the twirly woos. I miss the twirly woos.
1234
00:51:39.510 --> 00:51:42.130
I like them. You're not into twirly woos yet? That's
1235
00:51:42.150 --> 00:51:44.639
like an open prison, isn't it? Yeah.
1236
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:48.510
One of those ones where, like, a financial crime you
1237
00:51:48.570 --> 00:51:49.139
get sent to.
1238
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:51.139
No, I haven't done twirly woos.
1239
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:52.579
I can't believe I just said the word twirly woos.
1240
00:51:52.780 --> 00:51:55.679
Oh, right, big beans and twirly woos. What an episode.
1241
00:51:55.739 --> 00:51:58.260
Also, I feel like sometimes I kind of get into
1242
00:51:58.280 --> 00:51:59.539
an episode and I want to know what.
1243
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.940
Like, have you ever gone back to Thomas the Tank Engine? Like,
1244
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:04.980
there's a story behind something. So the kids go, can
1245
00:52:05.019 --> 00:52:06.679
we turn over? I'm like, I just want to see
1246
00:52:06.699 --> 00:52:07.480
what happens to Tom.
1247
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:08.699
And Son this way.
1248
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:09.880
Just keep going.
1249
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:11.469
For 30 seconds. Like, oh, no.
1250
00:52:11.909 --> 00:52:13.409
Okay. Yeah, that's fine.
1251
00:52:13.730 --> 00:52:16.230
It is weird that, like, those people that make kids' shows,
1252
00:52:16.349 --> 00:52:20.090
when we talk to, like, so... They're seen by so
1253
00:52:20.150 --> 00:52:22.769
many people you wouldn't expect to watch these shows.
1254
00:52:22.869 --> 00:52:25.880
Do you know what I mean? Yes. Like, you wouldn't
1255
00:52:25.940 --> 00:52:28.059
think David Gandy would have a view on Hey Dougie.
1256
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:29.980
You just wouldn't think it, like....
1257
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:33.840
Have you been asked to do... Yeah, you must have
1258
00:52:33.860 --> 00:52:35.579
done a bedtime story, haven't you?
1259
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:38.059
No, I would actually quite like to do a bedtime story.
1260
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.780
Get him in, he'd be great. But again, that's something
1261
00:52:40.860 --> 00:52:43.510
I'd choose. I also... you know go what do you
1262
00:52:43.530 --> 00:52:45.050
want to read and I go oh daddy will choose
1263
00:52:45.070 --> 00:52:47.409
because daddy has the ones that he enjoys reading yeah
1264
00:52:47.570 --> 00:52:48.269
yeah not.
1265
00:52:48.190 --> 00:52:50.130
The ones that sometimes you enjoy reading like the dinosaur
1266
00:52:50.170 --> 00:52:52.550
that pooped hey poop's funny like that's that's a good
1267
00:52:52.570 --> 00:52:54.309
one if you don't don't saw the poop yeah don't
1268
00:52:54.329 --> 00:52:56.989
saw the poop to princess yeah the lady enjoys those
1269
00:52:57.110 --> 00:53:00.329
ones and um have you done you choose have you
1270
00:53:00.369 --> 00:53:02.610
got these books oh yeah they're good.
1271
00:53:02.309 --> 00:53:04.849
Those yeah so it's like no you're you're a princess
1272
00:53:04.889 --> 00:53:06.289
which castle do you want which.
1273
00:53:06.329 --> 00:53:08.869
Yeah they do this they read the they choose the.
1274
00:53:08.809 --> 00:53:11.530
Story my kids have got enough opinions.
1275
00:53:12.969 --> 00:53:17.829
How about I fucking choose?
1276
00:53:18.710 --> 00:53:19.469
Sorry. Very true.
1277
00:53:20.030 --> 00:53:22.329
Are they good, though? Do they like them? Yeah, they're good.
1278
00:53:22.550 --> 00:53:24.070
I quite enjoy them. They are good, I think. I
1279
00:53:24.090 --> 00:53:25.670
think they're good, those books.
1280
00:53:26.010 --> 00:53:28.639
Sometimes you and Stephanie just sit and do it. Does
1281
00:53:28.659 --> 00:53:29.860
she read You Choose to you?
1282
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:31.920
You get to choose.
1283
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:38.559
Um i think those days yeah i mean we.
1284
00:53:38.699 --> 00:53:41.610
It's good to know even gandhi's not shagging oh that's
1285
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:45.309
great it's good to know that's give me a real
1286
00:53:45.349 --> 00:53:47.550
boost dave that's really pumped me up.
1287
00:53:47.630 --> 00:53:50.130
It is that point of like you know having two
1288
00:53:50.210 --> 00:53:53.670
one was one was okay you've got a bit of
1289
00:53:53.710 --> 00:53:57.139
rest two is we have one each so if I'm
1290
00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:00.599
doing stories with Tilda Steph's putting the baby down and
1291
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.880
then that's our you know she looks up then be
1292
00:54:03.900 --> 00:54:06.190
the rules at the moment and if we are sometimes
1293
00:54:06.210 --> 00:54:10.260
ever just in the bed together like because we were
1294
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:12.360
just like oh wow like hang on a minute and
1295
00:54:12.380 --> 00:54:14.880
we're always waiting for like okay he's gonna wake up
1296
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:18.409
first or who yeah um and I'm quite strict about
1297
00:54:18.429 --> 00:54:22.030
children being in bed so my step isn't so she's
1298
00:54:22.110 --> 00:54:24.369
had the she'll have the baby in bed I can't
1299
00:54:24.389 --> 00:54:26.690
be in a bed with a baby because I just
1300
00:54:26.710 --> 00:54:29.920
think I just don't trust right I am i'm kind
1301
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:31.739
of big and i'm a deep sleeper when i do
1302
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.199
sleep and i just think i can't get to sleep
1303
00:54:34.219 --> 00:54:35.820
because i worry about it so i might as well
1304
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:37.920
just go and sleep somewhere else but i did feel
1305
00:54:37.980 --> 00:54:39.800
like for years i was i was literally like a
1306
00:54:39.860 --> 00:54:43.059
dog trying to find somewhere to sleep around the house
1307
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:45.079
like going around in a circle.
1308
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:49.110
Yeah just do that curling up on the.
1309
00:54:49.170 --> 00:54:52.909
Floor like anywhere and I don't think and I thought
1310
00:54:52.929 --> 00:54:54.139
this was just me and then he speaks to other
1311
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:56.219
dags he goes oh no he said you know but
1312
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:57.739
Dave one of my friends is six foot six and
1313
00:54:57.760 --> 00:54:59.539
he says I've been you know trying to sleep in
1314
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:01.679
the same single bed as my son for years like he.
1315
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:03.969
Just has to sleep in there and then We're all
1316
00:55:04.030 --> 00:55:06.929
doing the same thing. So, yeah, but I am quite strict.
1317
00:55:06.949 --> 00:55:09.489
So if my daughter comes in, see, that's something I
1318
00:55:09.489 --> 00:55:11.230
learned from my mum and dad as well, is that
1319
00:55:11.289 --> 00:55:12.969
if I ever went down and say, I can't sleep
1320
00:55:12.989 --> 00:55:15.610
or go into the bedroom, then my parents would use that.
1321
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:18.340
It's a trick, it's a parenting thing, is they don't
1322
00:55:18.380 --> 00:55:20.519
say anything to you. They just take you by your
1323
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:23.820
hand and you're escorted back into your bedroom. They sit there,
1324
00:55:23.860 --> 00:55:24.679
but they don't say anything.
1325
00:55:25.179 --> 00:55:26.619
So you're just straight back into your bed.
1326
00:55:26.659 --> 00:55:28.460
Now, I will say stuff and have a little conversation,
1327
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:31.010
but if she comes in, I do get straight out
1328
00:55:31.030 --> 00:55:32.130
and we go back to your bedroom.
1329
00:55:32.510 --> 00:55:36.170
Oh, come on then. Yeah, because we're the same. We
1330
00:55:36.210 --> 00:55:38.289
don't really have them in our bed at all. We
1331
00:55:38.309 --> 00:55:40.269
never have, even when they were a lot younger. If
1332
00:55:40.329 --> 00:55:42.469
they cried or were upset or had a bad dream,
1333
00:55:42.489 --> 00:55:45.030
we'd sit with them in their room until they went
1334
00:55:45.070 --> 00:55:47.489
back to sleep. And then on the odd occasion, we've
1335
00:55:47.510 --> 00:55:50.269
slept with them, but normally we come back into the bedroom.
1336
00:55:50.409 --> 00:55:54.510
But some people do have them in their bed for... years,
1337
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:56.860
to like six or seven or eight, and it would
1338
00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:58.260
drive me mad. I couldn't do it.
1339
00:55:58.780 --> 00:55:59.920
No.
1340
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:02.360
But you try, I mean, in the end, you're so
1341
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:04.739
sometimes tired, you're like, I'm just going to sleep in
1342
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:05.760
the bed with them.
1343
00:56:05.780 --> 00:56:07.489
Yeah. I've done that as well.
1344
00:56:07.590 --> 00:56:10.409
Yeah, well, my youngest, who's five, came in at 5 a.m.,
1345
00:56:10.550 --> 00:56:11.610
and she was like, I had a bad dream, and
1346
00:56:11.630 --> 00:56:12.730
I'm like, lay there, go to sleep.
1347
00:56:12.889 --> 00:56:13.909
I'm like, because.
1348
00:56:14.500 --> 00:56:17.320
It's too near getting up time to try and get
1349
00:56:17.340 --> 00:56:18.630
her back in. I'm like, just lay there and go
1350
00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:20.650
to sleep. We'll get two hours of sleep. But it's
1351
00:56:20.690 --> 00:56:22.190
quite nice, actually, to have a little cuddle.
1352
00:56:22.269 --> 00:56:25.010
The terrible parenting, I would actually say, I'm really guilty
1353
00:56:25.050 --> 00:56:26.889
of probably lots of things. But one of them is
1354
00:56:27.050 --> 00:56:30.190
in the morning at like 6.30, and she said, Daddy,
1355
00:56:30.210 --> 00:56:32.789
can I watch something on your phone? I will go,
1356
00:56:33.050 --> 00:56:35.050
and I know I'll get 20 more minutes or half
1357
00:56:35.210 --> 00:56:40.130
an hour. And I'm quite careful about what they watch
1358
00:56:40.230 --> 00:56:42.349
on phone or YouTube or anything.
1359
00:56:42.409 --> 00:56:45.230
I make sure I can choose everything. At that time
1360
00:56:45.250 --> 00:56:50.090
of the morning, she could be watching Science of the Lambs. Like,
1361
00:56:50.110 --> 00:56:51.550
she could come out and do a review in the car.
1362
00:56:51.650 --> 00:56:54.110
I didn't think Anthony Hopkins was that good in that.
1363
00:56:54.150 --> 00:56:56.210
Not compared to Science of the Lambs.
1364
00:56:56.230 --> 00:57:01.960
She's watching Andrew Tate videos. Comes out top G. Actually,
1365
00:57:01.980 --> 00:57:05.619
I think the Matrix is trying to get him, Dad.
1366
00:57:05.860 --> 00:57:08.460
Lance, should we do the final question, Josh? It's been
1367
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:11.039
an absolute pleasure. Oh, it's been brilliant, mate. Thank you
1368
00:57:11.059 --> 00:57:11.760
for this, David.
1369
00:57:13.059 --> 00:57:16.860
Our final question is, what one thing does your partner
1370
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:19.010
do that you think is kind of.
1371
00:57:20.630 --> 00:57:21.949
I can't do the final question. I'm so bad at
1372
00:57:21.989 --> 00:57:23.369
the final question. Why am I so bad at it?
1373
00:57:23.389 --> 00:57:25.849
Final question is, what one thing winds you up about
1374
00:57:25.869 --> 00:57:29.170
the way your partner's definitely parents that really gets under
1375
00:57:29.190 --> 00:57:30.389
your skin, but you don't really bring it up because
1376
00:57:30.409 --> 00:57:32.329
you don't have an argument about it or kick off,
1377
00:57:32.389 --> 00:57:34.230
everyone's tired. But if she was to listen back, she
1378
00:57:34.250 --> 00:57:36.230
might go, you know, I think he's got a point there.
1379
00:57:36.250 --> 00:57:38.690
And as well as that, to get you out of jail,
1380
00:57:38.730 --> 00:57:42.670
which you might need, considering she's a barrister, what is
1381
00:57:42.929 --> 00:57:44.820
the positive? What is the thing that she does when
1382
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:46.610
you go, I am so happy that I had children
1383
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:48.800
with this woman. She is amazing. What does she do
1384
00:57:48.840 --> 00:57:53.380
as a mum? got a tough ask here dave i
1385
00:57:53.420 --> 00:57:55.000
love this one we say we've never really.
1386
00:57:54.820 --> 00:57:57.280
Said it then but let's do it on a podcast
1387
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:00.159
like millions people and then that will be fine she'll.
1388
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:02.199
Like that one it's a service because if she listens
1389
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:04.579
she might go yeah that's right actually you could have
1390
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:06.679
told her as well just reinforce it on it it's
1391
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:09.610
up to you um Depends how difficult you want this
1392
00:58:09.650 --> 00:58:10.530
weekend to be for you.
1393
00:58:10.909 --> 00:58:12.250
Yeah.
1394
00:58:12.510 --> 00:58:13.369
Now, how long do I not want to be.
1395
00:58:13.369 --> 00:58:15.280
That'll put the pressure on, but a lot of people
1396
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:16.239
listen to this show.
1397
00:58:16.260 --> 00:58:20.460
How long do I want to be ignored for this week?
1398
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:22.860
I mean, she is a.
1399
00:58:23.179 --> 00:58:25.239
I think she's probably a match for, I would say,
1400
00:58:25.260 --> 00:58:29.420
the positive things, like... a natural parent more than me
1401
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:32.550
i would probably say she's she's wanted children she's she's
1402
00:58:33.250 --> 00:58:36.769
absolutely brilliant like she's like i can't there's there's not
1403
00:58:36.829 --> 00:58:41.150
many things um i say we repair even though even
1404
00:58:41.210 --> 00:58:44.489
if i think we're quite we you know she doesn't
1405
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:46.960
quite agree with something i've done or something i said
1406
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:49.539
to the children and i'm vice versa is we'll back
1407
00:58:49.579 --> 00:58:52.570
each other up So, yeah, well, daddy says, you do
1408
00:58:52.590 --> 00:58:53.750
what daddy says and you do what mommy says.
1409
00:58:53.789 --> 00:58:55.010
Even then, they'll go out and they'll go, well, I
1410
00:58:55.030 --> 00:58:57.750
don't actually agree with what you've done there, but that's like, well, we'll.
1411
00:58:57.610 --> 00:58:58.630
Have that discussion later.
1412
00:58:58.989 --> 00:59:01.829
So, I think we are always backing each other up,
1413
00:59:02.409 --> 00:59:06.460
um which is good um no she's just an incredible
1414
00:59:06.699 --> 00:59:09.239
mum like she she really really is and and that's
1415
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.789
instilled it's like she teaches the kids to love each
1416
00:59:11.849 --> 00:59:14.829
other as well like the two kids absolutely adore each
1417
00:59:14.889 --> 00:59:17.030
other three years and she's.
1418
00:59:16.909 --> 00:59:21.150
How do you do that This will change.
1419
00:59:21.630 --> 00:59:23.670
This will absolutely change.
1420
00:59:24.210 --> 00:59:26.389
How do you do that? How do you rank that?
1421
00:59:26.429 --> 00:59:27.289
I don't know.
1422
00:59:27.369 --> 00:59:29.750
When this was like 13, 14, I think that might
1423
00:59:29.809 --> 00:59:31.349
change slightly.
1424
00:59:31.730 --> 00:59:32.130
Absolutely.
1425
00:59:32.170 --> 00:59:35.309
But the one thing that does wrong, I don't... God,
1426
00:59:36.230 --> 00:59:37.610
I'm not going to go there.
1427
00:59:37.710 --> 00:59:39.820
Come on, you pussy. Go there.
1428
00:59:39.860 --> 00:59:43.500
LAUGHTER The worst thing is the fact you won't go
1429
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:45.570
there means that there is one that he knows. There
1430
00:59:45.690 --> 00:59:46.969
is one to go.
1431
00:59:47.550 --> 00:59:48.730
I'm probably struggling too.
1432
00:59:48.989 --> 00:59:51.329
I think the only thing we think of, me and
1433
00:59:51.349 --> 00:59:55.449
Steph are very, very different as in I love the outdoors.
1434
00:59:55.949 --> 00:59:58.389
I am a bit of a loner, but I love
1435
00:59:58.409 --> 01:00:02.219
the outdoors and taking dog walks and walking up mountains
1436
01:00:02.300 --> 01:00:03.980
and doing all these different things. And I would love
1437
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.559
my children to be the same. And Steph, like a
1438
01:00:07.579 --> 01:00:10.420
lot of people, is not doesn't enjoy that she's you
1439
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:12.800
know she's also greeks do not understand walking up mountains
1440
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.119
any people do be like i will tell you we
1441
01:00:15.139 --> 01:00:16.579
went once in greece and we said oh we walked
1442
01:00:16.619 --> 01:00:20.320
up mountains mount uh mount zeus and the waiter went
1443
01:00:20.340 --> 01:00:21.449
to me why did you do that.
1444
01:00:21.909 --> 01:00:25.530
Just keep bringing me fucking big beans and keep it
1445
01:00:25.550 --> 01:00:28.110
to yourself all right i don't know because of the
1446
01:00:28.130 --> 01:00:28.550
view shut.
1447
01:00:28.489 --> 01:00:35.119
Up But Stephanie's like that, and I like my children.
1448
01:00:36.780 --> 01:00:38.139
I want them outside with me.
1449
01:00:38.219 --> 01:00:38.780
I want them running.
1450
01:00:39.489 --> 01:00:41.650
We have been doing that now. We've moved to the
1451
01:00:41.710 --> 01:00:43.710
new house, and we're in Richmond Park, and we've been
1452
01:00:43.889 --> 01:00:49.510
building fairy dens. But there is a case where Stephanie goes, no,
1453
01:00:49.550 --> 01:00:50.429
I'm not really.
1454
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:52.420
It's quite cold.
1455
01:00:52.579 --> 01:00:55.300
And it's hard to go, kids, come with me, or
1456
01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:57.260
stay at home with mummy in the warm.
1457
01:00:57.300 --> 01:00:59.679
Yeah, like we all want to kind of do. It's like,
1458
01:00:59.699 --> 01:01:01.809
let's come out. Is mummy coming? No, she's not coming. Well,
1459
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why are we going? That's just it.
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Just do as you're told.
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Just come with me. So it's not a criticism. It's
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just we're different in that way. But from that, I just.
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Well, I suppose she'll be the judge of criticism or
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not when she listens, won't she?
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She's a barrister. She will be the judge, definitely.
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And even if she doesn't listen, David, she will be
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told about it at the school gate.
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Yet to win an argument in six years in this study.
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Yeah, how is that? Do you genuinely just lose every
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argument with a barrister?
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Come.
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Remember barristers you got it's just that they are trained
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just to they they are they are they are brilliantly
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trained to get what they want you to say out
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of view that's pretty much it and you go.
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Even when i think like she's done something really i'm
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like got it right i might have to have a
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go at this one somehow i come out still being
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the bad person i'm.
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Like how did that one happen like you did that
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wrong and i'm it's it's.
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Me if you ever are kicking off do you ever
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go and put a wig and gown on and go
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to talk to her and go look i'm feeling pretty
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confident about this argument actually i've gone full.
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Method David, thank you so much. Thanks so much. It's amazing.
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And good luck with your new range of well wear.
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Thank you.
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I'm going to get myself a nice soft cotton hoodie
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and trousers and be able to wear them for the
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school run without the disrespect that I get currently.
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Yeah. It'd be good to see them on some hot
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bodies because I've looked at the pictures of you modelling it, David,
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and I thought, you want to see it on me
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and Rob? On some real men. That's what we need.
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On some real men.
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I'll be photographed running out the chip shop with a
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load of chips.
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It's a real man. That's how a real man wears it.
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But thanks so much, David. Cheers for this. Lovely, guys.
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David Gandy there. What a lovely bloke.
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He's an absolute legend. Because I met him with Romesh.
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He's such a good bloke. Sadly, he's the full package.
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That's really annoying. Well, do you know what?
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I felt that because I was like, oh, he's probably
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going to be like boring or a wanker. No, funny, likeable,
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really good bloke.
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Really charming.
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Heart in the right place. Very sensible. But what I
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respect about it is he doesn't ram it down your throat.
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He doesn't.
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He lets it out in bursts. He's not front and centre.
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He allows us to think maybe... There's something wrong with him,
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even though he knows he's great.
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Right, see you on Tuesday. That was David Gandy. What
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a bloke.
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His clothes actually do look decent, actually. Sometimes, let's be honest,
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you do this show and they say, oh, can you
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mention that? You look at it and go, ugh. But
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I was actually looking at it going, oh, I'd wear that. Yeah,
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that looks good.
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Looks comfy and smart. Right, see you Tuesday. Bye.
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Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting.
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Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what
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it's really like to be a parent which I would
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say can be a little tricky.
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So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about
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the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week
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we're chatting to a famous parent about how.
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They're coping or hopefully how they're not coping.
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And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with
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your tips advice and of course tales of parenting.
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Woe because let's be honest there are plenty of times
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where none of us know what we're doing Hello, you're
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listening to Parenting Hell with.
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Max, can.
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You say Rob Beckett?
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Rob Beckett.
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Good boy. And can you say Josh Whittakin?
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Josh Whittakin.
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Good boy. You sound like he's had a joint.
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This is Max, my two-year-old son. We recorded this and
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now he won't stop saying Josh Widdicombe. Apparently it's fun
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to say. Too bloody right.
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Sounds like Channel 4 Commissioner. It doesn't these days. Love
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the podcast. Thanks for making the rest of us feel normal. Love,
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Lauren from Portsmouth.
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How do we get rid of Josh Whittakin from Last Leg?
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He's not disabled. How do we let him slip through
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the net?
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That was a good one, though. I liked that kid.
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I liked his energy. Yes. How are you, Rob? All good. Yep.
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I'm tired, Rob.
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I'm tired and cold. I'm tired and cold. I'm so tired.
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So it's cold everywhere. I'm getting lots of slip.
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Oh, no, Rob. What?
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I've started having a piss in the night. You know
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when I say I don't have pisses in the night?
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yeah this week I've started going for a piss in
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the night and I can't.
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Get out of it do you drink before bed or
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yeah I've been drinking loads of water because I'm on
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a diet Right.
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Oh, my diet. I had a really bad week when
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Lou was away. Yeah. I had a fry up.
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Oh, you know, I've got an office that I'm going
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to do this from eventually when it all goes through.
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I've got this office, right, that I need to set
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up the cameras and stuff with Michael. Put that on
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the to-do list, Michael. Anyway, I went there when the
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boiler was getting sorted out or something. They had to
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put something on it. Oh, God, I'm boring myself. Fucking hell,
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liven up, Rob.
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Anyway. Anyway. It was really cold.
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I was waiting in a cold, empty office while they
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were fixing something. So I thought, Joe, I'll go for
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the caff. They'll be done in an hour. I'm supposed
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to be on my Gary Barlow get ripped. Had a
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fry up because it was minus five. And I was like,
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I think that's allowed. Gary Barlow's not having a fry
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up for any temperature. Surely Barlow's knocking back a fry
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up when it's minus five.
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Okay. He can't be on yogurt. Not that cold.
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No.
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Anyway, I went for a fry up, right? And I'm
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going to send you this fry up. And it's the
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caff nearest my office.
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Yeah. Okay. Which is dangerous. You almost want it to
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be bad. Right.
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But actually, it's a good caff. I'd say it's in
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between caff and cafe. But this fry up, I add it, mate.
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Oh, my word.
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What the best fry up I've ever eaten. Fuck yeah, now.
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I've never seen vertical toast. Is that more bacon?
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No, it's a homemade hash brown.
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Oh, my word. And it's bacon well done, sausage.
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So I'm going to tell you something now. Gary Barlow's
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never eating that, mate. They're poached eggs, though, Josh.
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Yeah. Rob, that's not Gary Barlow's breakfast. Anyway, I was
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supposed to be getting ripped.
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You know, I had that week where I went really
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good and I had loads of veg before Lou went away,
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and then I did smelly poos and all that, and
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then Ken Bruce left radio too.
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I'm not saying it's my fault, but I'm not saying
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it helped. LAUGHTER Anyway, that.
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So then I was flying, and then I started my
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week when it was cold.
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I had a fry-up.
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I had a pizza express twice, and then I finished
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a week on fish and chips from the chippy.
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Oh, Rob.
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That's not a Barlow. Anyway, new week, new me. I'm
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back on it.
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Lose back. I'm not working as much. There's another parent
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here to help me. I'm back on the veg grind.
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Great. Because I'm on day eight of my diet.
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I saw you eating cottage cheese with an avocado, and
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you look sad. what it's all about mate you look
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sad and thin I look sad but.
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I'm drinking too much water and it's making me piss
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at night Yeah. You know, I do the brown noise.
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Is it a clear piss or is it a dark one?
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I'm not looking, Rob. I try and keep my eyes
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closed while I'm doing it. Are you doing brown noise
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every night? Yeah.
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And it gives you a time of how long you've
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slept for. Because obviously you can see how far you've
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got through the brown noise playlist.
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Oh, yes. What are you looking at? I did eight
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hours and a quarter last night. What, before the piss? No, no, no.
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I don't check it when I get up for the piss.
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But I leave the brown noise running. So eight hours sleep. Yeah.
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Why am I tired? What time do you go to bed?
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You know I go to bed early, Rob. You're such
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a little nerd. I'm not a nerd. You little full
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pyjamas book on quarter past eight. I'm not. I'm wearing pyjamas, Rob.
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I'll pair a pair of loose boxer shorts. What time
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did we go to bed last night? What did we watch?
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We watched the second part. Is Rose in there while
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you're doing the podcast, watching you? What do you mean
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doing the podcast? You asked her what time did we
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go to bed. No, no, I was saying it to myself. Oh,
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I thought she's in the room making sure you're not
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slacking off. She's a big fan of the show. And
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I said, you should see it unedited. It's really good.
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Just watch it a couple of days. She can't hear you,
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it's quite weird, because I've got the headphones in.
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She just hears just your audio. So what time did
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you go to bed last night?
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We watched that Chuck D hip-hop documentary. Don't try and
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make yourself sound cooler. So we were pretty cool.
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Yeah, I watched a little bit of a hip-hop doc.
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You did watch that Chuck D hip-hop documentary.
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Yeah.
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And then we went to bed at about 9.45. 9.45.
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It's pathetic. To sleep. It's pathetic, isn't it?
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It was a.
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So what time did you get into bed?
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Well, Rose went straight to sleep, Rob, because she was
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still drunk from being a clarity. I couldn't even say it.
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So she was asleep bang on 9.45? No, well, it
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takes a quarter of an hour to get upstairs, doesn't it? Yeah, 10pm.
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I wouldn't say that's too... I think if you've got
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a kid, what time is your son getting up?
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6.45, 7. Yeah, I mean, yeah.
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If you want to have a good day and be
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able to do your life, you need to be going
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to bed by 10 p.m.
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If you've got a kid waking up at 6.
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I can't remember what it's like to watch Match of
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the Day.
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I've been watching it in the mornings.
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On Saturday Sunday morning you know what it's something like
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but like live like and I've been waiting for it
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to come on it's so pathetic I remember breaking up
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and going why the fuck why I used to go
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why are they putting Match of the Day on so
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early no one's up at that time when I was
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like 22 now I'm waiting for it to come on
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I'm negotiating alright then girls you can watch Frozen 1
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Frozen 2 and after three hours when that's finished I'll
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be watching Match of the Day at 9.30am okay.
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What has become of our lives? Eight hours is good.
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That's good sleep, mate. That's good. I go to bed
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before Lou now. Do you? I'm really needing a lot
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of sleep. I feel like.
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The couple that doesn't go to bed together isn't... Like,
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I can't go to bed first.
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I can go to bed second. I can't go to
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bed first. Now, I've only just started doing it, but
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I actually feel a bit smug. Do you? I'm going
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to bed now. Will you just sit there and let
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Telly rot your brain? I'm going to go watch TikTok
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in bed.
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Yeah, I literally lay there for an hour. Last night,
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I watched TikTok for an hour, and I just thought
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to myself, you're disgusted. I had my book on my
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lap as if I was going to read it.
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No. Just watch people falling over in the ice. Shall
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we get our guest on in two and a half minutes?
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We both said we had nothing to say at the
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start of this podcast. We've really strung it out close to...
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I'd argue we haven't. Do you want one bit of correspondence?
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Just because we're talking doesn't make it content, does it? Oh,
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come on. You know how podcasting works. Let's get through
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to the end of this without content. All right.
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Shall I play you Prince Harry singing your song? I honestly, mate,
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I'm going to say it now. I gave up on spare.
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I didn't enjoy it.
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Oh, just too much? Just fucking hell, we get it.
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You're in the army. Fuck it.
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If I wanted Bravo 2-0, I'd have fucking bought it, mate.
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Five contextive chapters on flying an Apache helicopter.
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I couldn't give a shit. Tell me some things about
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Prince Charles.
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Five chapters on an Apache. This is like when Lou
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tried to make me read John Steinbeck. Oh, my God,
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that bloke loves to describe a field.
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Oh, my God. Fuck me. LAUGHTER This is Prince Harry.
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I hope you don't mind.
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I hope you don't mind that I put down.
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In words how wonderful life is while you're in the world.
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He sang it with a twinkle and a smile.
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Oh, he's not even that. What? That was worse than
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just reading it. I know. Just read it. Surely. In
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his defence, though, the audiobook is horrible to do. Yeah,
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I know. On your own.
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He's had to read out five chapters on a patch.
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He's probably thinking, I've overdone it on a patch. I've
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doubled down.
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I've cinquented down on a patch. Shh.
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That is tough. I feel so... Yeah, I would have
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just read that out. That's by producing that.
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I think... It's a little bit funny. If I put
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that he should be singing this. It's a little bit funny.
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I hope you don't mind. I hope you don't mind
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that I put.
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Down in words the Apache helicopter.
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One of modern technology's marvels. We've done it. All right.
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We've done it. got to get our guest on. We've
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got to get our guest.
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We have William and Kate Windsor.
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Right, should we do our guest? Yeah. Who have we
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got this week? Right. Is he the best looking man
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you've ever met? Well, unfortunately, I'll never be able to
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meet me.
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Our guest this week, David Gandy. What a salt.
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David Gandy, welcome to the podcast. We're very excited to
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have you on. Can I just call you Gandy? Did
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we call you Gandy when me and Romesh met you?
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Do you like Gandy?
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I've been Gandy since I was about five. Really? I
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think at the end of school, people came up to
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me when I was 18 and went, what is your
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first name?
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I was like, David Gandy.
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Yeah david gandhi welcome to the show um josh me
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and gandhi are best pals because from my modeling days.
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Yeah of course i forgot about that yeah yeah.
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When i used to you know new york fashion week
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things like that in it dave yeah stuff.
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Like that wrong rob what went wrong what.
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Went wrong i just lost the i just lost the
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fire for it They wanted me back, but I was like,
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if I can't do it to my full ability, I
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don't want to know. He didn't believe it anymore, did you?
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A bit like Cantona when he retired early from football.
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He still had the ability, but didn't fancy it.
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You've got to go out on top though, Rob. That's
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the thing.
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Exactly. Leave them wanting more.
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The weird thing is about that, is like everything I've done,
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everyone comes up to me and speaks.
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About that episode.
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Really i'm like that's the best thing you've done i
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was like i was on it for three minutes i
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was like they said best thing funniest thing you've ever
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done i was like oh great thanks for that like.
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More than the uh more in the advert more than
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is it well you know you know the advert in
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the pants that we recreated to be.
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Honest i got a little bit worried during the episode
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because you know when you first did your photo.
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Shoot yeah it was actually really good Oh, it was.
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Yeah, the portfolio's not bad, actually. I don't know if
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you've seen it, Josh. It's actually pretty good, yeah. People
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are going to think this is, which is quite easy,
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but this is.
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Like an easy game. Is it easy, David? Yeah.
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But, yeah, to be honest, then, Josh, we got them on...
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Then you had to recreate light blue in the white pants.
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I'd say it's not easy, if you've got my body,
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to recreate David Gandy's famous shot of.
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Him on the boat.
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How would you feel if your kids went into modelling
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at an older age?
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But Josh, we need to establish, the listener don't know
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how many kids... I'm being seamless. You're not being seamless.
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My two kids... Since you mentioned. But we normally ask
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the guests. How many kids have you got? How old
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are they? It's so seamless.
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If you ever want to do a podcast, let us
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know if you need any tips.
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Hints, pointers.
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I've got two kids, Joe. I've got two girls.
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Two girls.
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Just over four and just over one.
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Oh, okay.
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Busy age. You look very tired. I'm knackered, mate.
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I haven't slept in four years. This is good.
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I mean, that's actually one thing that the industry, because,
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I mean, being in the industry, I've been jet lagged
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for 20 years.
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I've been on 90 plus a year. The wife finally
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found a use for me. I don't sleep.
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Well, I'm going to get a good night's sleep and
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you do the nights.
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just got used to, you know, being able to function
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on four or five hours sleep. So that to other
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people is when they have a baby is an absolute shock.
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I mean, they're just, they're just like, Oh my God,
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like how do you function? I've been doing that for years.
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90 flights, 90 flights a year.
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That's why sometimes more.
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Have you got a part-time job as cabin crew or something?
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I've got a lot of fucking air miles I can't
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spend for some reason.
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Because I would say, though, having a kid is just
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like being jet-lagged, isn't it? Like, all the time. And
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you're saying that you've been preparing for this. Has it helped?
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It's sleep deprivation, isn't it? Sleep deprivation is used as torture.
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And then we have children and put us in... Like
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someone said to me the other day, it was the
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thing that... if one of the most complicated, hardest things
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in life, and anyone can do it. Like you're not,
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you don't have to have an exam. You'd like, you know,
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when you leave the hospital, they come and check, they
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bring your baby down. If you're in a car, they go,
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we've got a car seat.
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You go, yeah. And you put the baby and they go, well,
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you're good to go.
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And you go, are we?
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Are you sure we're good to go? Because I think
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we're good to go.
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Yeah, because when I worked at Sainsbury's, they had this
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big machine that you put the cardboard in and it
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would crush it to get it into a small cube
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to send off.
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I wasn't allowed to use that machine. Yeah. Because I'd
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have been trained. No, no, it was just that you
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weren't allowed to use the machine right away. Everyone else was.
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But yeah, it is brutal. How have you found it?
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Do you always want to be a dad and you're
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loving it now or is it, you know?
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No, I mean, I love kids because basically I am
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one still. And I think that's where, I think dads
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come into their own a little bit in some ways
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because we love to be a bit silly and a
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bit stupid and kids.
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Kind of love that. So I've, my sister has six children.
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Oh, wow.
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She's got three boys, three girls. And so I had
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lots of nieces and nephews. And she's one of those
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annoying people that makes it look effortless. Like, she lives
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over in Spain with her husband. And then she says,
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you know, I said, we're having a birthday party or
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we're getting one of the kids christened. It's going to
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be mad for you to come over with all the kids.
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And there she is on her own, brings six kids
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all flying with each other.
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Oh, my God.
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Seamless like six suitcases six bags we've got two and
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you know we're having a nervous breakdown about getting in
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the car and going to waitress.
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It's just i don't know how.
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She does it it's just quite annoying.
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Did she give you tips or did you find it?
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Because sometimes people with a lot of kids, they'll give
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new parents or soon-to-be parents tips and it's quite frustrated.
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Yeah, I'm not a big person on the tips, on
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the parenting tips thing.
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You don't like them. When other people give advice. No,
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I'm not the most patient person when they come for that.
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At all I don't think I do it as well
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I don't think I give I just think everyone has
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to do it in their own way you have to
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make your mistakes and you have to learn from them
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and every child is different every one of my children
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every one of my you know my sister's six children
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have been brought up in the same way have been
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schooled so they're all entirely different every one of them
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yeah So you just have to adapt very, very quickly.
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And I think I kind of got to that when
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we started going to birthday parties or meeting parents at
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the nursery. And then there was a slightly different dynamic
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of one birthday party. It's like they just did fish
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and chips. And I said to the parents.
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When has he got some tomato sauce? Well, I mean,
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that just led to World War III among a few parents.
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Oh, you let your daughter have tomato sauce?
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Oh, wow.
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I was like, yes, tomato sauce. And then, of course,
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my daughter's used to having a bit of a tomato sauce.
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You know, she has a little, you know, squirt of
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tomato sauce. That's what she's allowed.
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And you animal david you absolute savage the kids you
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know the kids who have never had tomato sauce were
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you know got the bottle they were squeezing everywhere in
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their mouths and everything else this is this is.
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Why we don't allow tomato sauce.
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No i think if you it's all like moderation where
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so lou i feel like i've spoken about this before
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was not allowed fizzy drinks as a kid she smashes
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through diet coke like a monster It's some sort of
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inbuilt thing of a, yes, I can get it now.
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Do you know what I mean?
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I wasn't really allowed fizzy drinks, and I still don't
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really drink fizzy drinks.
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It's quite a weird thing. What my mum used.
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To allow me, and I don't know if you know them,
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scampi fries.
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Scampi, yeah, yeah. Awful. The smell. The smell.
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And now I still love scampi fries, so I get
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in the car, go on the road trip and get
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my packet of scampi fries.
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People are like, what is wrong with you?
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I love a scampi fry, but the smell makes you
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feel physically sick. And my brain goes, just eat them
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quick and you won't have to smell them anymore. Just
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get them down you, because they're good for you.
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Just get them down you. Get fish. It's good, isn't it?
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Fish is good for you.
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It's brain food.
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So what's your children's diet like? Pretty good, to be honest.
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I mean, I'm quite nutritionally.
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I had to be.
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I kind of taught myself to be quite nutritionally aware.
425
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Yeah, me too, mate. Big time.
426
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But we're as guilty as any.
427
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But my idea....
428
00:18:28.670 --> 00:18:30.769
People think I'm ultra careful about what I eat and
429
00:18:30.809 --> 00:18:33.269
everything and carbs. I'm not at all.
430
00:18:33.769 --> 00:18:36.130
So, you know, it's just like instead of if they
431
00:18:36.170 --> 00:18:38.369
want chips, they get sweet potato fries and stuff like
432
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that that you can, that kids will still eat.
433
00:18:40.690 --> 00:18:41.829
My kids don't like chips.
434
00:18:42.210 --> 00:18:42.839
They don't like chips?
435
00:18:42.990 --> 00:18:44.799
I've never met kids that don't like, they don't like chips.
436
00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:50.460
They just go, no, I don't like chips. Who don't
437
00:18:50.500 --> 00:18:53.000
like chips? I don't know anyone that don't like chips.
438
00:18:53.059 --> 00:18:58.049
It's impossible not to like chips, isn't it? You're always
439
00:18:58.069 --> 00:18:59.210
saying I got them at McDonald's.
440
00:18:59.230 --> 00:18:59.910
What are they doing?
441
00:18:59.950 --> 00:19:01.710
They don't eat the chips. They just have nuggets or
442
00:19:01.730 --> 00:19:04.359
the burger if they're at McDonald's. They don't eat the chips.
443
00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:05.279
That's weird, isn't it?
444
00:19:05.299 --> 00:19:07.259
Yeah. But I don't feel like I should try and
445
00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:10.299
get my kids into chips. No, you shouldn't be pushing them.
446
00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:14.500
Come on, finish your chips. Get them down, yeah.
447
00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:16.799
You're not getting off this table until you eat your chips.
448
00:19:16.900 --> 00:19:18.640
Yeah, eat all those chips.
449
00:19:19.859 --> 00:19:22.380
So have you been traveling a lot still since the
450
00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:23.690
babies have been born then?
451
00:19:23.970 --> 00:19:25.829
Or have you cut back?
452
00:19:25.990 --> 00:19:28.710
It's just when the baby was born, I kind of
453
00:19:28.730 --> 00:19:30.769
knew that, because it's only really me and Steph.
454
00:19:31.269 --> 00:19:35.140
So our families, her families are there up in Lancashire, Yorkshire.
455
00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:37.200
So they're four or five hours drive away. My parents
456
00:19:37.299 --> 00:19:39.400
are two and a half hours drive away. So it
457
00:19:39.740 --> 00:19:41.460
was just us. Like that was it.
458
00:19:41.539 --> 00:19:45.609
So those years, I love traveling. That was my life
459
00:19:45.630 --> 00:19:46.190
for 20 years.
460
00:19:46.730 --> 00:19:47.049
And I love it.
461
00:19:47.069 --> 00:19:47.869
But yeah, it was just.
462
00:19:50.049 --> 00:19:52.059
A conscious decision I moved all the companies to London
463
00:19:52.730 --> 00:19:55.420
um started new companies so I could focus on those
464
00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:58.259
uh and bring in bring in teams and.
465
00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:00.980
Is that an idea to stop you being out then?
466
00:20:01.019 --> 00:20:02.880
If you've got like, cause you've got your new company
467
00:20:02.900 --> 00:20:04.359
where I want to talk to you about. Well, where
468
00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:06.640
is your new sort of clothing line? Is it sort
469
00:20:06.660 --> 00:20:08.980
of going, okay, how can I establish work where I
470
00:20:09.019 --> 00:20:11.400
can be at home more rather than going out for
471
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shoots and stuff like that?
472
00:20:12.579 --> 00:20:12.880
Yeah.
473
00:20:12.940 --> 00:20:14.960
And if I do go, then it's a one night
474
00:20:15.009 --> 00:20:17.970
rule pretty much. So it doesn't matter where it is.
475
00:20:18.049 --> 00:20:20.529
Even if it's New York, it's out, get there in
476
00:20:20.549 --> 00:20:23.670
the morning, do the round, have one night, have another
477
00:20:23.690 --> 00:20:24.529
day and then come back again.
478
00:20:25.130 --> 00:20:27.869
Because I suppose as a model, is there a thing like,
479
00:20:28.269 --> 00:20:31.269
what's the progression? Because as you get older, you're obviously
480
00:20:31.289 --> 00:20:33.279
a very good looking man, but is there much work
481
00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:34.019
for older models?
482
00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:35.319
Well played, Rob. I was going to see how you're
483
00:20:35.339 --> 00:20:36.099
going to deal with it.
484
00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:37.819
Obviously, you're still very good looking now.
485
00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:39.660
I'm not saying you're not. But I'm just saying.
486
00:20:40.619 --> 00:20:42.000
Will you say what is that do you have to
487
00:20:42.019 --> 00:20:43.779
think of almost like a get out plan but.
488
00:20:43.740 --> 00:20:45.619
You could be like a silver fox couldn't you at
489
00:20:45.619 --> 00:20:48.480
60 i suppose there must be still like you like
490
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if your hair if your.
491
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Hair goes gray i suppose if not yeah do you
492
00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:53.210
have any trouble we can't recall yourself a silver fox
493
00:20:53.230 --> 00:20:53.910
if you've got brown.
494
00:20:53.750 --> 00:20:56.089
Hair you could do like walk-in baths and stuff like
495
00:20:56.150 --> 00:20:57.009
adverts for them.
496
00:20:57.650 --> 00:21:00.210
Instead of sterling just absolutely blue steel up.
497
00:21:00.170 --> 00:21:02.890
The stairs yeah men's nappies but.
498
00:21:03.210 --> 00:21:07.940
That was it shit yourself in style with David Gandy.
499
00:21:08.579 --> 00:21:10.420
Still on the dinghy.
500
00:21:12.859 --> 00:21:14.319
With brown pants instead of white ones.
501
00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:19.079
But because you're clothing, because I've been looking at it,
502
00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:23.859
it looks, I'd say, David, it is like the coolest,
503
00:21:24.119 --> 00:21:26.079
but quite comfy dad clothes.
504
00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:30.309
That's the vibe. Go to Wellwear. I looked at it.
505
00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:32.579
I was like, I like this because you look stylish,
506
00:21:32.619 --> 00:21:34.180
but it looks like soft cotton.
507
00:21:35.069 --> 00:21:36.990
Do you know what I mean? It looks comfy.
508
00:21:37.150 --> 00:21:39.529
It's pretty much what we did, Robin, in many ways,
509
00:21:39.609 --> 00:21:43.930
is we're going to go into the boring, psychological, scientific
510
00:21:43.970 --> 00:21:45.650
view of why we choose soft clothing.
511
00:21:45.670 --> 00:21:46.829
Please do.
512
00:21:46.890 --> 00:21:49.670
I want to know, because I'm all over a fleece,
513
00:21:49.890 --> 00:21:50.829
but I look like a prick.
514
00:21:50.849 --> 00:21:51.609
I want to look like you.
515
00:21:53.420 --> 00:21:55.230
If you want to go in scientific view, it's the
516
00:21:55.269 --> 00:21:57.930
same thing as when you say you stroke a dog
517
00:21:57.990 --> 00:22:01.309
or cat and oxytocin is released. It's that feel good
518
00:22:01.349 --> 00:22:06.099
factor of soft clothing. And there are scientific studies been
519
00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:09.420
done on students, people in workplaces in comfortable clothing and
520
00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:15.839
not comfortable clothing and productivity, the positivity, everything is increased.
521
00:22:16.619 --> 00:22:19.109
Students' exam results were better in comfortable clothing.
522
00:22:19.589 --> 00:22:21.069
Really? Oh, wow.
523
00:22:21.190 --> 00:22:23.930
It has a major impact, actually, on... And so do
524
00:22:23.970 --> 00:22:25.220
other things like sustainability.
525
00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:29.859
Oh, fuck that, mate. I want to feel comfy. I'm joking.
526
00:22:30.539 --> 00:22:32.690
I'm so joking. Basically.
527
00:22:33.410 --> 00:22:35.509
Everyone always thinks I'm in suits, I'm in tailoring. Well,
528
00:22:35.529 --> 00:22:37.089
we met in Savile Row. Of course, I love suits
529
00:22:37.109 --> 00:22:40.289
and tailoring. But predominantly, most of the time, I'm in
530
00:22:41.509 --> 00:22:47.759
sweatshirts or t-shirts or everyday looking after the children or
531
00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:50.339
going to the pub or doing all these different things.
532
00:22:51.819 --> 00:22:54.500
And I was always in T-shirt and jeans or sweatshirts.
533
00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:57.200
And it just got to a point where we were,
534
00:22:57.519 --> 00:22:59.319
I'd already done stuff with M & S anyway, which
535
00:22:59.420 --> 00:23:03.049
I was kind of known for, and then I just said, well,
536
00:23:03.069 --> 00:23:05.990
I want to change the narrative a bit and move
537
00:23:06.029 --> 00:23:09.009
that brand on. So we just did the ultimate, the
538
00:23:09.150 --> 00:23:12.009
ultimate T-shirts, the ultimate sweatshirts. And we did things like
539
00:23:12.049 --> 00:23:14.390
really simple things, which people think are genius, but I
540
00:23:14.410 --> 00:23:18.660
put side pockets in everything. so they're handy sweatshirts you
541
00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:20.460
had when you as a dad yeah you know you
542
00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:22.319
like i mean literally you go out and we don't
543
00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:24.099
have a bag do we like well you can't have
544
00:23:24.140 --> 00:23:26.240
a handbag i'm not judging but you know you don't
545
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:27.839
have a bag like a woman has back so you've
546
00:23:27.859 --> 00:23:30.619
got your kids stuff you've got a mobile phone and
547
00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:32.079
then like it goes keep it my unicorn in your
548
00:23:32.099 --> 00:23:35.859
pocket go unicorn got tissues got something else and it's
549
00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:40.289
it's that sort of utility yeah so we um We've
550
00:23:40.309 --> 00:23:44.829
worked on the comfort level is one, the sustainability of it.
551
00:23:45.829 --> 00:23:49.730
And then, yeah, really just the style as well, mixing
552
00:23:49.769 --> 00:23:52.190
those elements together because you still want to look stylish.
553
00:23:52.210 --> 00:23:53.920
Because I reckon that I could wear this to the
554
00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:57.859
school gates without people talking about it behind my back. Yeah,
555
00:23:58.299 --> 00:24:02.339
because that's my ultimate dream is to look comfy but presentable.
556
00:24:03.059 --> 00:24:06.529
Yeah, you're always one side or the other, aren't you, Rob? Exactly.
557
00:24:06.609 --> 00:24:08.769
I can never get the balance right. I think Gandhi's
558
00:24:08.809 --> 00:24:10.390
nailed it.
559
00:24:10.410 --> 00:24:13.930
Do you guys worry about the school drop-off and what
560
00:24:13.950 --> 00:24:14.410
you're wearing?
561
00:24:14.630 --> 00:24:14.950
Yes.
562
00:24:15.420 --> 00:24:18.500
I went in shorts the other day and it was too...
563
00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:20.680
There was too much chat about my legs.
564
00:24:21.180 --> 00:24:21.539
Shorts?
565
00:24:21.579 --> 00:24:23.799
It's been about minus four for two weeks. I'd been
566
00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:26.119
to the gym and I didn't have time to go home.
567
00:24:26.420 --> 00:24:28.450
And then people were like, you're wearing shorts. I was like,
568
00:24:28.470 --> 00:24:30.450
I've been to the gym. And they were like, oh,
569
00:24:30.529 --> 00:24:31.809
someone's been to the gym. And I'm like, I'm not
570
00:24:31.849 --> 00:24:33.089
making a statement about.
571
00:24:35.029 --> 00:24:37.910
I'm never going in shorts again. It was so controversial.
572
00:24:37.930 --> 00:24:39.690
I think all the losers at the school gates are
573
00:24:39.710 --> 00:24:42.359
just jealous, mate. Yeah, exactly. I can't help it if
574
00:24:42.380 --> 00:24:44.539
I've got good pins. You know how it is, David.
575
00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:49.819
got it or we haven't.
576
00:24:48.299 --> 00:24:49.859
Should i turn up in all sorts of stuff like
577
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:52.180
i've we've been building a house for years so i've
578
00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:54.140
been on like we're finally in but i've been on
579
00:24:54.180 --> 00:24:57.059
site and i mean like boots and a barber and
580
00:24:57.119 --> 00:25:00.180
a like strange sort of like outfits that have to
581
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:01.700
go i have to go into a meeting but they
582
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:04.490
have to be on site and yes like turned up
583
00:25:04.589 --> 00:25:06.789
in some and i've gone to the gym and then
584
00:25:06.829 --> 00:25:08.769
gone to do the school pickup as well so i.
585
00:25:09.029 --> 00:25:10.609
Bet no one's having a go at your legs though
586
00:25:10.630 --> 00:25:13.829
are they david unlike me No one's going, oh, hark.
587
00:25:13.529 --> 00:25:14.890
At him with his legs out.
588
00:25:15.130 --> 00:25:17.069
Wouldn't wear shorts.
589
00:25:17.269 --> 00:25:21.549
That's an error, as us two know, Josh. That's a
590
00:25:21.589 --> 00:25:22.769
couple of stylist guys.
591
00:25:23.450 --> 00:25:26.950
It was quite funny, actually. There's a couple of dads.
592
00:25:27.269 --> 00:25:29.700
I kind of call them the rogue dads. But no,
593
00:25:29.710 --> 00:25:33.799
it's true. And one of them, Tommy, he's very cool.
594
00:25:33.859 --> 00:25:36.079
He's a good friend of mine now. Very cool guy,
595
00:25:36.099 --> 00:25:37.660
like got the beard, the long.
596
00:25:37.500 --> 00:25:38.799
Hair, really handsome.
597
00:25:39.180 --> 00:25:41.130
And he said to me, the first time we went,
598
00:25:41.170 --> 00:25:43.109
so the first day at nursery, he said, you know.
599
00:25:43.130 --> 00:25:44.930
To the wife, I'm going to absolutely nail first. I'm
600
00:25:44.970 --> 00:25:45.490
going to be the.
601
00:25:45.470 --> 00:25:48.029
Coolest dad at school. So like turns up and he said,
602
00:25:48.049 --> 00:25:50.029
I've got it. And he said, and fucking David Gandy
603
00:25:50.069 --> 00:25:51.539
turns up in the sports car. Fuck my life.
604
00:25:57.619 --> 00:25:59.670
That's like something from a sitcom isn't it actually i
605
00:25:59.710 --> 00:26:01.390
think you know i'm the younger dad i'm gonna be
606
00:26:01.430 --> 00:26:04.089
one of the cooler ones candy rolls in so i've
607
00:26:04.109 --> 00:26:05.930
got to go straight to new york after this actually
608
00:26:05.950 --> 00:26:07.569
what are you doing just walking home are you having
609
00:26:07.589 --> 00:26:08.309
a coffee.
610
00:26:08.049 --> 00:26:11.670
One night um so is your eldest going to school.
611
00:26:11.450 --> 00:26:14.259
Soon she's uh yeah she'll go in september in.
612
00:26:14.210 --> 00:26:16.359
September and how you feeling about that looking forward to
613
00:26:16.380 --> 00:26:17.539
getting some time back or.
614
00:26:18.259 --> 00:26:21.680
Um i have this weird thing where um i hated
615
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:26.450
school Absolutely hated it. So I'm more nervous than she is.
616
00:26:26.670 --> 00:26:28.839
So I'm getting, when I walked in, so we've obviously
617
00:26:28.859 --> 00:26:30.519
been to see the schools and when we've had the
618
00:26:31.220 --> 00:26:34.839
meetings with the teachers, I'm going in having that pit
619
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.559
of my you know in the stomach feeling like i'm
620
00:26:37.579 --> 00:26:40.019
going back to school like you hear songs of praise
621
00:26:40.059 --> 00:26:41.859
on the sunday night you haven't done your homework.
622
00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:44.859
Yeah i know exactly how you feel i was exactly
623
00:26:44.900 --> 00:26:47.500
the same and i was petrified but she didn't give
624
00:26:47.539 --> 00:26:48.519
a shit and she loves it.
625
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:51.700
Yeah no exactly yeah so um she seems to be
626
00:26:51.740 --> 00:26:53.259
really looking forward to it and i'm i'm kind of
627
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:54.519
like a little bit.
628
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.170
Are you worried about passing your feelings on to her.
629
00:26:57.349 --> 00:26:59.829
No because i'm positive about it i think i because
630
00:26:59.869 --> 00:27:04.269
i think i had That experience, I know what it
631
00:27:04.329 --> 00:27:08.069
shouldn't be. I know how school should be. And my
632
00:27:08.109 --> 00:27:11.390
wife had absolutely astounding, you know, she loved school. We
633
00:27:11.410 --> 00:27:12.789
had very, very different upbringing.
634
00:27:12.849 --> 00:27:14.670
I don't get those people. I can't believe it. I
635
00:27:14.710 --> 00:27:17.359
liked school. I didn't love school. Love school's weird. Are
636
00:27:18.150 --> 00:27:20.839
you calling David Gandy's wife weird? No, I'm not calling
637
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:22.720
David Gandy's wife weird. Well, that's what you've just done.
638
00:27:22.740 --> 00:27:28.960
Don't tell anyone. I'm sure she'd get over it. She's
639
00:27:28.980 --> 00:27:30.950
married to David Gandy. She doesn't give a shit what
640
00:27:31.009 --> 00:27:34.490
I think. She's fucking cracked the code.
641
00:27:35.130 --> 00:27:37.390
People say that. They go, I love school.
642
00:27:37.450 --> 00:27:37.920
I didn't want to.
643
00:27:38.009 --> 00:27:40.599
I had people that didn't even want to leave school
644
00:27:40.619 --> 00:27:43.039
or leave university. I had friends that just kept on
645
00:27:43.059 --> 00:27:45.559
doing doctorates. So I don't think they wanted to get
646
00:27:45.579 --> 00:27:46.259
out of education.
647
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:47.180
I couldn't.
648
00:27:47.460 --> 00:27:48.960
I said the only thing I learned from university was
649
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:50.900
I shouldn't have gone to university. That's the only thing
650
00:27:50.940 --> 00:27:51.410
that I learned.
651
00:27:52.829 --> 00:27:54.670
You've done all right for yourself in the end, David,
652
00:27:54.730 --> 00:27:55.170
I'd say.
653
00:27:55.630 --> 00:27:56.910
Not by anything I learned at university.
654
00:27:56.950 --> 00:27:57.150
No.
655
00:27:57.170 --> 00:27:58.670
Not by anything I learned at school, to be honest.
656
00:27:58.690 --> 00:28:01.880
I'm still waiting to use something at school. Did you
657
00:28:01.910 --> 00:28:04.319
miss the week where you learned about soft fabrics? Because
658
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:06.059
that was one of my favorite weeks.
659
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:09.019
That science lesson about soft fabrics, wasn't it?
660
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:10.359
Yeah.
661
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:11.779
What did you do at uni then? What was you
662
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:17.319
studying at uni? I did multimedia computing. Right. What does
663
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:18.880
that mean? I don't know.
664
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:20.480
I didn't know what it meant in the first lecture either.
665
00:28:21.690 --> 00:28:23.990
That was before social media as well. I mean, just
666
00:28:24.009 --> 00:28:24.849
like PowerPoint.
667
00:28:24.970 --> 00:28:28.569
The teachers couldn't do it. It was moving at such
668
00:28:28.589 --> 00:28:30.049
a rate, they couldn't teach the same thing. So they
669
00:28:30.069 --> 00:28:31.690
were going, you really have to show us what's available,
670
00:28:31.730 --> 00:28:34.769
what you can do with stuff. I was the only person,
671
00:28:34.809 --> 00:28:37.349
I still remember it to this day, MM101, which was
672
00:28:37.390 --> 00:28:40.880
Multimedia 101. i was the only person there that didn't
673
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:42.819
have a laptop i mean i just bundled in.
674
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:43.079
From i.
675
00:28:45.779 --> 00:28:47.819
Just bundled in from freshers week and was not feeling
676
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:55.069
the best and then everyone's head's like coding yeah anyway
677
00:28:55.990 --> 00:28:57.390
uh we lasted a few years and i came to
678
00:28:57.410 --> 00:28:59.990
the fashion game and uh didn't really know what i
679
00:28:59.990 --> 00:29:02.269
was doing in there either but um the founder founder
680
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.339
Found a niche, should I say.
681
00:29:04.579 --> 00:29:07.079
With the kids, to go back on the earlier question
682
00:29:07.099 --> 00:29:09.339
I've established, would you like them to follow into the
683
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:09.960
fashion game?
684
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:12.019
There's nothing wrong with it.
685
00:29:12.059 --> 00:29:14.769
And I obviously came into the industry, I knew nothing
686
00:29:14.809 --> 00:29:15.109
about it.
687
00:29:15.180 --> 00:29:17.190
My family knew nothing about it.
688
00:29:17.309 --> 00:29:19.490
And we also sort of went down a path of
689
00:29:19.529 --> 00:29:23.289
branding that really no other male model had kind of
690
00:29:23.900 --> 00:29:26.299
yeah my step before we've run the boundaries of where
691
00:29:26.339 --> 00:29:28.369
other male models had gone to like try and rival
692
00:29:28.380 --> 00:29:31.930
the the female supermodel so i've always felt like i
693
00:29:31.930 --> 00:29:34.769
um not quite sure what i was doing and it
694
00:29:34.809 --> 00:29:37.799
was all on me. But if they wanted to, it's
695
00:29:37.819 --> 00:29:40.900
just that, to be honest, it's a different industry now.
696
00:29:41.700 --> 00:29:43.660
It's not the industry that we knew and the glamour
697
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:47.660
and everything else. It's a lot to do with influences and...
698
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:51.400
you know, your, your engagement on social media. And so
699
00:29:51.700 --> 00:29:54.220
it's completely, a completely changed industry.
700
00:29:54.950 --> 00:29:58.250
Um, so yes, I wouldn't, I personally have a bit
701
00:29:58.289 --> 00:30:01.230
of problem with people going into modeling before, but I mean,
702
00:30:01.269 --> 00:30:03.069
they can go in before they're 16, which I don't
703
00:30:03.109 --> 00:30:05.369
agree with that. You can go in at 16.
704
00:30:05.369 --> 00:30:08.019
Um, and then you don't have to have a, uh
705
00:30:08.059 --> 00:30:08.779
you know a book or.
706
00:30:08.740 --> 00:30:11.119
Anyone go with you after that i think that should be.
707
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.579
A lot older yeah um so i would always say
708
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.519
to my children listen 18 is the cutoff point if
709
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:20.559
you want to explore go and explore up until that
710
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:22.700
point you're not going anywhere near it of course i've
711
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.059
had everyone say can we do the shoots with the
712
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:27.180
kids can we do a campaign with the children but
713
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:30.849
i'm i keep um everything off of social and uh
714
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:34.250
yeah i want my kids to have a childhood really
715
00:30:34.329 --> 00:30:38.390
like normal i'm saying normal but um yeah you.
716
00:30:38.309 --> 00:30:40.849
Wouldn't want to exploit their experiences for a profit would
717
00:30:40.869 --> 00:30:42.910
you no we would never do that.
718
00:30:48.309 --> 00:30:50.289
We do keep them off the social media and something
719
00:30:50.349 --> 00:30:52.150
but for you it is all like the image of
720
00:30:52.190 --> 00:30:53.529
it and having to do photo shoots would be a
721
00:30:53.549 --> 00:30:56.089
lot of sort of pressure on them but i was
722
00:30:56.109 --> 00:30:58.150
thinking though like because of the lifestyle that you had
723
00:30:58.170 --> 00:31:00.099
you're doing 90 flights a year traveling all over the
724
00:31:00.140 --> 00:31:03.119
world did you think to a point will you ever
725
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.759
meet someone and settle down and have kids because it's
726
00:31:05.779 --> 00:31:09.650
not really the lifestyle for that kind of relationship is.
727
00:31:09.670 --> 00:31:13.109
It absolutely um i suppose you always hope you do
728
00:31:13.170 --> 00:31:15.390
you just adapt to the situation at the time.
729
00:31:15.230 --> 00:31:18.910
Really and um you know even when you know we're.
730
00:31:18.609 --> 00:31:20.950
In the relationship i'm still flying around and you just
731
00:31:20.990 --> 00:31:22.589
have to that that's your life that's what you have
732
00:31:22.609 --> 00:31:23.990
to do and you have to adapt to that and
733
00:31:24.269 --> 00:31:27.710
um Um, when you have kids, yeah, it was, it
734
00:31:27.950 --> 00:31:31.019
was adamant. I was just, I, I had positioned that
735
00:31:31.099 --> 00:31:33.079
so that I didn't have to be flying as much.
736
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:34.559
I'd love to be away. I mean, don't get me wrong.
737
00:31:34.579 --> 00:31:37.200
I mean, that is my life and I love doing it.
738
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:39.789
I was then suddenly going from doing that.
739
00:31:39.869 --> 00:31:40.650
I hate routine.
740
00:31:40.690 --> 00:31:41.509
I can't stand routine.
741
00:31:42.990 --> 00:31:46.390
And then I'm you are in student you know get
742
00:31:46.450 --> 00:31:47.990
up take a dog for a walk look after the
743
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.160
baby go and do some work go to the supermarket
744
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:54.299
come back and you're in this routine and I will
745
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:57.579
admit it you go what the fuck am I doing I.
746
00:31:57.769 --> 00:32:01.089
Know exactly what is this So, what is your routine
747
00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:01.490
now then?
748
00:32:01.730 --> 00:32:03.230
How are you splitting it?
749
00:32:03.309 --> 00:32:06.269
Oh, it's madness at the moment. It is honestly, honestly madness.
750
00:32:06.289 --> 00:32:09.130
We've been building a house for two years. There is
751
00:32:09.150 --> 00:32:12.410
no real routine. My other half is a barrister. So, again,
752
00:32:12.430 --> 00:32:13.230
you have a routine.
753
00:32:13.250 --> 00:32:13.609
You don't.
754
00:32:13.630 --> 00:32:14.950
We don't know when she's going to be in court,
755
00:32:14.990 --> 00:32:16.750
not be in court. I mean, she's literally come at
756
00:32:16.769 --> 00:32:17.849
this moment and said, you know what was me in
757
00:32:17.869 --> 00:32:19.789
court yesterday? Because they called it, I am in court now.
758
00:32:19.809 --> 00:32:19.869
So.
759
00:32:22.069 --> 00:32:25.480
You know, nursery runs, school runs, work, everything. She's in court.
760
00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:27.319
She can't do anything about it. She has to be.
761
00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:31.200
So I have to change my everything tomorrow. What's she
762
00:32:31.220 --> 00:32:33.089
been accused of? Bit of fun. Bit of fun.
763
00:32:35.750 --> 00:32:38.490
Prince Charles actually made that same, I've got to name,
764
00:32:39.930 --> 00:32:40.730
King Charles.
765
00:32:40.990 --> 00:32:41.609
I met him.
766
00:32:41.769 --> 00:32:45.539
He's got the same banner as King Charles on George Winnicott.
767
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:48.079
Did you? The King? That's worse. He made that joke
768
00:32:48.099 --> 00:32:48.940
and I met him.
769
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.259
We were in Scotland doing something with the British Wall.
770
00:32:52.700 --> 00:32:53.269
And I met him.
771
00:32:53.349 --> 00:32:55.609
I said, actually, I'm meeting you for Star Wars Soldiers.
772
00:32:55.690 --> 00:32:57.490
I'm a patron for it. And he said, I'll see
773
00:32:57.529 --> 00:32:59.809
you tonight. And I said, my other half will be there.
774
00:33:00.269 --> 00:33:02.910
And I mean, bless him. When he got to that party,
775
00:33:02.950 --> 00:33:06.180
he's probably met another 500 people that day. He said, David,
776
00:33:06.220 --> 00:33:08.980
remember my name? He said, where is like, is Stephanie here?
777
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:10.920
And I said, my God, you're like, you remember? I said,
778
00:33:10.940 --> 00:33:11.660
I'm so sorry.
779
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:14.039
And he says, um, she's in court.
780
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.019
And he said, Oh my goodness. What did she do?
781
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.210
But I thought it was very good.
782
00:33:19.250 --> 00:33:21.170
Like I've always been very, very fond of him. I
783
00:33:21.190 --> 00:33:22.049
like the cut of his jib.
784
00:33:22.450 --> 00:33:25.950
At least you're not doing Prince Philip's shtick. That'd get
785
00:33:25.970 --> 00:33:28.779
us in trouble, Josh. Let's keep it to Charles.
786
00:33:29.299 --> 00:33:30.980
Prince Charles would be a good guest. How are you
787
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:32.980
getting on with both your sons? Let's go through them
788
00:33:33.049 --> 00:33:35.609
one at a time.
789
00:33:36.250 --> 00:33:37.410
And your brother, how's he?
790
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.079
From that um i was gonna ask well though obviously
791
00:33:42.099 --> 00:33:44.009
your kids having a much different lifestyle to you now
792
00:33:44.029 --> 00:33:46.009
like you know you grew up in billericay do you
793
00:33:46.089 --> 00:33:48.309
ever take them back to billericay to see their roots.
794
00:33:48.670 --> 00:33:50.410
I don't go back that much i've still got all
795
00:33:50.450 --> 00:33:52.789
friends there they're still close friends my family my mom
796
00:33:52.829 --> 00:33:55.759
and dad moved from billericay they moved uh 13 14
797
00:33:55.750 --> 00:33:58.869
years ago um still in essex they're in the essex
798
00:33:58.950 --> 00:34:01.230
i've been born now billericay was i think i was
799
00:34:01.250 --> 00:34:03.470
saying this the other day to uh a couple of
800
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:05.539
the dads is that when i was i remember being
801
00:34:05.579 --> 00:34:08.460
nine or ten and i i would just leave i
802
00:34:08.500 --> 00:34:10.079
would leave like mom see you later and she'd be
803
00:34:10.099 --> 00:34:12.199
like yeah bye and i would be on roller skates
804
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:13.980
or a bike or something and i would go over
805
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.000
the other side of town to meet my friend anthony
806
00:34:16.579 --> 00:34:17.940
and my mom wouldn't know where i was all day
807
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:20.739
and then you know i would go back to anthony's
808
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:22.099
or anthony come back to us and then their moms
809
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:23.920
would go i'll call your mom's guys like tell them
810
00:34:23.940 --> 00:34:25.159
you don't want to stay for dinner yet stay for
811
00:34:25.179 --> 00:34:27.179
dinner and we'll drop you off later like the hot
812
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.980
like nine or ten just yeah yeah 12 hours we
813
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.360
i'm taking i haven't got a nine-year-old yet but i
814
00:34:32.539 --> 00:34:34.300
couldn't imagine No.
815
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.329
Or leave at 9 or 10. Yep, see you later.
816
00:34:36.349 --> 00:34:39.449
Have a good... Just walk across town on your roller skates.
817
00:34:40.449 --> 00:34:41.010
Off you go.
818
00:34:42.889 --> 00:34:47.590
So, yeah, it's a different upbringing. I wouldn't say it's
819
00:34:47.610 --> 00:34:51.230
vastly different. I mean, it's pretty normal. I had a
820
00:34:51.230 --> 00:34:55.780
pretty normal upbringing. And there's things that my parents have
821
00:34:55.860 --> 00:34:59.039
instilled into me. My father was keen for us to
822
00:34:59.099 --> 00:35:03.039
see a lot of education through travel. So he took
823
00:35:03.099 --> 00:35:05.840
us everywhere. So my dad had a very impoverished background.
824
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:07.960
and wanted to see the world. So, and I didn't
825
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.469
really appreciate that, I have to say. And we've been to,
826
00:35:10.809 --> 00:35:14.230
he took us to the Amazon and Alaska and Africa
827
00:35:14.269 --> 00:35:16.170
and all these different places. We did that and I
828
00:35:16.170 --> 00:35:20.500
never really appreciated that until actually I met David Attenborough
829
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:24.719
and I spoke to him about being amongst gorillas and
830
00:35:24.739 --> 00:35:26.920
tracking for gorillas there's not that many people that can
831
00:35:26.940 --> 00:35:29.619
do that but that's where it's.
832
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:32.239
Like listen to your mom and dad they do actually.
833
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:33.440
Know what they're talking about i remember going to my
834
00:35:33.460 --> 00:35:35.730
dad once i was about 17 and i had 11
835
00:35:35.730 --> 00:35:38.210
my first girl was 11 year old for the fiesta
836
00:35:38.630 --> 00:35:40.210
the windows didn't work i went on a date a
837
00:35:40.250 --> 00:35:43.369
couple times the window didn't go down and then the
838
00:35:43.489 --> 00:35:45.179
uh the door latches broke so she had to get
839
00:35:45.219 --> 00:35:46.340
out through the sunroof.
840
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:50.559
That was it And I was furious about it.
841
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.139
I was like, dad, this car, it's like, and then
842
00:35:53.219 --> 00:35:53.679
so we're chatting.
843
00:35:53.699 --> 00:35:55.460
I said, dad, when we are going on these holidays,
844
00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:58.559
I said, they obviously cost, you know, a decent amount
845
00:35:58.579 --> 00:35:58.900
of money.
846
00:35:59.059 --> 00:36:01.860
And he said, yeah, of course, David. He said, I said,
847
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:03.679
so could I maybe.
848
00:36:03.500 --> 00:36:06.500
Not come on holiday? And I put that money towards
849
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.940
a car. Now my dad, without even blinking, sort of said, David,
850
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:13.619
you don't have to come on holiday, but you're not
851
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.300
getting a new car. So you decide whether you want
852
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:18.369
to sit on your own. during the summer or whether
853
00:36:18.389 --> 00:36:19.829
you want to go. I said, I think I'll come
854
00:36:19.849 --> 00:36:20.090
on holiday.
855
00:36:20.130 --> 00:36:22.199
He went, good, just get out of my office.
856
00:36:22.380 --> 00:36:25.699
And that was basically it.
857
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.099
So it was a different, yeah, it was parents know best.
858
00:36:28.179 --> 00:36:29.820
And the first thing where I met David Attenborough, went
859
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.219
to dad and went, I was just able to speak
860
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:34.239
to David Attenborough about being amongst gorillas.
861
00:36:34.579 --> 00:36:35.420
And he said, there you go.
862
00:36:35.739 --> 00:36:37.420
Do you want to take your kids traveling a lot
863
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:38.860
as well? Is that something you want to put with
864
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:39.099
your kids?
865
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.530
Have you taken them anywhere yet? Like, I know they're young.
866
00:36:41.550 --> 00:36:44.710
I'm going to sound bloke. You see, there's this one
867
00:36:44.730 --> 00:36:48.760
thing where... I'm very conscious, especially I suppose.
868
00:36:48.510 --> 00:36:50.429
With my upbringing, is that I want my children to
869
00:36:50.449 --> 00:36:51.809
know the value of money and I want them to
870
00:36:51.849 --> 00:36:55.489
work and I want them to graft. I want them to,
871
00:36:55.690 --> 00:36:57.989
things aren't given to them. I'm doing a terrible job
872
00:36:58.010 --> 00:37:04.429
at that at the moment. I mean, my daughter learned,
873
00:37:04.510 --> 00:37:06.510
and this is going to sound so pretentious, my daughter
874
00:37:06.530 --> 00:37:08.469
learned to walk her first steps on a beach in
875
00:37:08.510 --> 00:37:09.130
Turks and Caicos.
876
00:37:09.909 --> 00:37:14.489
And that's quite uneven, that sand. So she's got good stability,
877
00:37:14.510 --> 00:37:16.650
good balance. It's like the Brazilian footballers. When they learn
878
00:37:16.690 --> 00:37:18.429
on a beach, they're actually better when they then get
879
00:37:18.449 --> 00:37:21.159
on the pitch. She'll be a superb walker on grass.
880
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:22.340
Yeah, she is.
881
00:37:22.380 --> 00:37:24.559
They learn very early. And I look at that and.
882
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.300
she's on the wrong, she's like, it's the right end
883
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:29.719
of the plane, but the wrong end of the plane,
884
00:37:29.739 --> 00:37:30.380
she shouldn't be here.
885
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.960
Um, and I just think these things all the time.
886
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:34.840
And I just think, no, and I'm angry, angry.
887
00:37:34.860 --> 00:37:37.099
Like she's, she's just going to get used to this
888
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.219
and think that this is how people live in this.
889
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:39.900
You don't have to.
890
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:40.320
Yeah.
891
00:37:40.420 --> 00:37:41.400
I was watching Jerry.
892
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:44.409
Seinfeld today and he was, he's been to everything that
893
00:37:44.449 --> 00:37:45.909
comedians and cars would copy.
894
00:37:45.949 --> 00:37:46.150
Yeah.
895
00:37:46.510 --> 00:37:48.309
Good show. And he was, uh, and he said to,
896
00:37:48.349 --> 00:37:50.710
I was getting into, and his daughter said, are we rich?
897
00:37:51.250 --> 00:37:53.710
And he said, well, I am. Yeah.
898
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.650
I thought that was a good answer. But yeah, it's
899
00:37:59.690 --> 00:38:02.530
that element to all those things like I want to
900
00:38:02.550 --> 00:38:03.809
know the value of money and want them to work
901
00:38:03.869 --> 00:38:06.530
and just not that everything is just done for you
902
00:38:06.989 --> 00:38:08.670
really at the end of the day. I think that
903
00:38:08.690 --> 00:38:11.659
was instilled in. I worked. I was a pizza deliverer.
904
00:38:12.900 --> 00:38:15.320
I worked voluntarily at a dog sanctuary when I was
905
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.380
like 15, 16. I paid my dues in many ways
906
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.139
of understanding that you have to work for stuff and
907
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:22.800
you have to graft.
908
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:25.090
Well, you know, you've got, you've grafted in your career
909
00:38:25.110 --> 00:38:26.530
as well. Like you say, when you first come into it,
910
00:38:26.530 --> 00:38:29.090
you were treading new ground really. Cause it was the
911
00:38:29.110 --> 00:38:32.030
female supermodels, but not, not the men. And you sort of,
912
00:38:32.050 --> 00:38:34.429
you know, establish yourself. And even then you've got to
913
00:38:34.469 --> 00:38:37.099
this level, you're still like starting new brands and stuff
914
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.860
like that. But I think sometimes when you want to
915
00:38:39.900 --> 00:38:42.099
show your kid what you're doing, it's like, they'll see
916
00:38:42.139 --> 00:38:42.800
from how you are.
917
00:38:42.900 --> 00:38:43.360
Hopefully.
918
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:45.190
But yeah, I think great example.
919
00:38:45.449 --> 00:38:48.309
Right, you can't really tell anyone anything. You show them.
920
00:38:48.349 --> 00:38:50.030
And I think when they get a bit older and
921
00:38:50.110 --> 00:38:50.889
see that you're grafted.
922
00:38:50.929 --> 00:38:53.300
Exactly. My daughter's going to see how stressed I am
923
00:38:53.380 --> 00:38:54.420
and go, I want that life.
924
00:38:54.980 --> 00:38:58.820
I want someone who's constantly panicking about their career.
925
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:00.019
That's what I'm looking for.
926
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.329
Laying in bed at 9pm listening to brown noise crying.
927
00:39:03.349 --> 00:39:04.750
That's the lifestyle I want.
928
00:39:10.170 --> 00:39:11.969
You've mentioned a couple of times like the parents at
929
00:39:12.010 --> 00:39:12.730
nursery and stuff.
930
00:39:12.769 --> 00:39:14.289
Are you heavily... Are you.
931
00:39:14.309 --> 00:39:16.929
Because I'd say there's a difference between me and Rob.
932
00:39:17.230 --> 00:39:20.170
I'm quite into being the kind of amongst the parents
933
00:39:20.210 --> 00:39:22.670
and the WhatsApp groups and stuff. Rob hates all the
934
00:39:22.690 --> 00:39:24.369
other parents and he won't deny that.
935
00:39:24.389 --> 00:39:27.670
I don't hate them all. I'm busy, and I play
936
00:39:27.690 --> 00:39:30.190
football with them, but I'm not organizing drinks.
937
00:39:30.230 --> 00:39:34.050
Rob hates all the other parents. So where are you?
938
00:39:34.429 --> 00:39:37.840
My other half calls me socially inept, for a start.
939
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.579
That might give you an idea of... I'm quite a loner,
940
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.820
so my wife is brilliant at social elements.
941
00:39:44.380 --> 00:39:46.670
She's great, so she's involved in that whole thing. I.
942
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:53.000
Like I have, I think we've chosen, we're choosing each other.
943
00:39:53.019 --> 00:39:55.599
I call them kind of like the rogue element. So
944
00:39:55.659 --> 00:39:58.909
the dads that will go to the pub and they'll
945
00:39:58.929 --> 00:40:00.710
have a few jokes and we'll take the kids to
946
00:40:00.730 --> 00:40:02.510
a lunch, but we know it's actually really a bit
947
00:40:02.550 --> 00:40:03.010
of a booty.
948
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:05.230
Yeah, yeah.
949
00:40:05.869 --> 00:40:09.130
And yeah, the same sort of mindset. I'm very obviously
950
00:40:09.150 --> 00:40:11.630
polite and nice to everyone. I won't know people. We've
951
00:40:11.650 --> 00:40:13.489
been there for a few years now. My wife will
952
00:40:13.510 --> 00:40:15.070
still say the names of the children and the mom
953
00:40:15.090 --> 00:40:16.170
and dad. I'll be like, which one's that?
954
00:40:16.210 --> 00:40:17.010
Who's that?
955
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:18.050
Oh, my word.
956
00:40:18.179 --> 00:40:20.099
If I had a game, if I had to match
957
00:40:20.139 --> 00:40:22.360
the children to the parents, that would be one of
958
00:40:22.380 --> 00:40:24.940
the worst days of my life. If they were all
959
00:40:25.019 --> 00:40:27.079
lined up outside the school and I had to give
960
00:40:27.099 --> 00:40:28.599
the children to the right parents.
961
00:40:28.780 --> 00:40:29.280
Could you do it?
962
00:40:29.940 --> 00:40:33.110
No, no, no, no. Apart from, yeah, there's a few.
963
00:40:33.469 --> 00:40:36.150
And actually, I have to say, the ones that my
964
00:40:36.190 --> 00:40:38.989
wife has forced me to talk to and.
965
00:40:38.889 --> 00:40:41.230
Socialize with have become good friends.
966
00:40:41.329 --> 00:40:43.969
And I think there's something you've got a lot in
967
00:40:44.030 --> 00:40:45.090
common when you.
968
00:40:46.690 --> 00:40:48.070
You know a lot of friends if they haven't got.
969
00:40:47.989 --> 00:40:51.550
Children they just don't understand they can't yeah they can't
970
00:40:51.570 --> 00:40:53.139
get the factors they go oh we'll pop around we'd
971
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.119
love to see the kids i go okay but you've
972
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:58.539
got a window of when you want to pop around
973
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:01.340
and they go and then it kind of like so
974
00:41:01.380 --> 00:41:02.840
get her at five or get her a half past
975
00:41:02.860 --> 00:41:04.659
four because they're having dinner at half five and then
976
00:41:04.699 --> 00:41:06.619
after that it's kind of like bedtime and we're putting
977
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.300
kids to bed and they go yep got it and
978
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:09.989
then at six o'clock they turn up and i'm like
979
00:41:10.030 --> 00:41:11.929
oh you you've bugged it all up now that's.
980
00:41:11.889 --> 00:41:16.239
Like I can't enjoy this now because you've ruined the routine.
981
00:41:16.820 --> 00:41:19.119
You're going to be downstairs without us while we try and.
982
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:21.179
Get crying children to bed. Yeah, absolutely.
983
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:25.949
You fucking morons. I told you come round at five.
984
00:41:26.070 --> 00:41:28.389
I just did that for a laugh, dear. I plucked
985
00:41:28.429 --> 00:41:29.610
that out the air.
986
00:41:30.030 --> 00:41:30.849
You cretins.
987
00:41:32.289 --> 00:41:34.849
It's like my friends, they were walking across the other
988
00:41:34.869 --> 00:41:37.269
dinner and they said, well, we'll walk from Richmond and
989
00:41:37.289 --> 00:41:37.849
meet you halfway.
990
00:41:37.869 --> 00:41:40.679
I was like, great. They then walked for like 40
991
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:42.480
minutes and I still wasn't there.
992
00:41:42.500 --> 00:41:43.260
They went, where are you?
993
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:46.340
I was having a half an hour because my daughter
994
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.780
had a tantrum because she didn't want to change her tights.
995
00:41:50.380 --> 00:41:53.110
But she did want to change her tights, but didn't
996
00:41:53.150 --> 00:41:55.570
want to change the tights. So I put some warm
997
00:41:55.630 --> 00:41:57.550
trousers on because it's freezing outside, but she didn't want
998
00:41:57.570 --> 00:41:59.469
to wear trousers because trousers don't go with her dress.
999
00:41:59.949 --> 00:42:01.750
And it was this, and I wasn't giving, and then
1000
00:42:01.769 --> 00:42:02.949
she was like, I don't want to go out now.
1001
00:42:02.969 --> 00:42:04.639
I was like, well, we're going out, so you're not
1002
00:42:04.659 --> 00:42:07.940
sitting watching television. And I was adamant I wasn't giving
1003
00:42:07.980 --> 00:42:10.059
up this argument, and my kind of other heart walked in,
1004
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:12.840
into this kind of, and she was just like, oh, right,
1005
00:42:12.860 --> 00:42:14.269
I'm going to leave you two guys for this one.
1006
00:42:14.309 --> 00:42:15.909
I was like, yes, because I've got to be strong
1007
00:42:15.949 --> 00:42:18.769
on this one. I'm not going to break it. And
1008
00:42:18.789 --> 00:42:20.449
then we would walk out and they would walk over.
1009
00:42:20.489 --> 00:42:22.530
So five minutes later, I walked into the park for
1010
00:42:22.550 --> 00:42:23.690
two minutes and then we came back home and had
1011
00:42:23.710 --> 00:42:24.150
a cup of coffee.
1012
00:42:24.170 --> 00:42:24.869
I was like, well, that's it.
1013
00:42:24.969 --> 00:42:27.230
So that's... That's that done.
1014
00:42:27.949 --> 00:42:30.170
Made my point.
1015
00:42:30.190 --> 00:42:32.489
Made the kid cry. I cried. Went into the park
1016
00:42:32.510 --> 00:42:32.909
for two minutes.
1017
00:42:32.949 --> 00:42:35.050
All come back. Everyone hates each other. What a lovely
1018
00:42:35.090 --> 00:42:36.289
Saturday at minus three.
1019
00:42:37.250 --> 00:42:38.739
The dog hasn't got walks. She's angry with me.
1020
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:40.780
My daughter's angry with me because she can't.
1021
00:42:40.610 --> 00:42:41.239
Wear the tights.
1022
00:42:41.820 --> 00:42:45.150
My wife's angry at me because... She's just angry at me,
1023
00:42:45.349 --> 00:42:47.150
just generally.
1024
00:42:47.849 --> 00:42:49.849
There is a slight resentment that I think lingers for
1025
00:42:49.889 --> 00:42:52.699
about six, seven years from your partner. They're just sort
1026
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:56.239
of general, like, disdain and disgust that I get from
1027
00:42:56.460 --> 00:42:57.019
Lou's eyes.
1028
00:42:57.260 --> 00:42:59.159
You put a time limit on that, though. So is
1029
00:42:59.179 --> 00:43:00.900
there light at the end of the tunnel, Rob?
1030
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.320
She's all over me now. She can't get enough of me.
1031
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:08.679
That's what you think as well. It's like a house
1032
00:43:08.699 --> 00:43:11.849
full of women, including the dog. There is a point
1033
00:43:11.869 --> 00:43:16.570
where I get ignored by everyone. So even like my baby, Tab,
1034
00:43:16.590 --> 00:43:19.630
she's one. If she bumps her head or falls over,
1035
00:43:19.650 --> 00:43:22.550
that hurts herself slightly. I could be nowhere near this.
1036
00:43:22.969 --> 00:43:25.929
She blames me for it. She stares at me in
1037
00:43:25.989 --> 00:43:27.840
like detest of like.
1038
00:43:28.340 --> 00:43:28.820
I don't know what it is.
1039
00:43:28.820 --> 00:43:31.019
I'm like, it's not me. I wasn't anywhere near that.
1040
00:43:31.699 --> 00:43:33.800
She's like, she just turns away from me.
1041
00:43:33.820 --> 00:43:36.059
I'm like, it's your curse that you're in the only
1042
00:43:36.179 --> 00:43:38.300
house of women in the world that wouldn't want David
1043
00:43:38.340 --> 00:43:43.869
Gandy to be there. like every other house of women
1044
00:43:43.909 --> 00:43:46.809
delighted day we can hang around long enough to become
1045
00:43:46.849 --> 00:43:48.090
the villain david that's all.
1046
00:43:48.070 --> 00:43:50.030
Right i've got it i've got it even i've got
1047
00:43:50.050 --> 00:43:51.480
it i've got to get a dog like a dog
1048
00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:52.920
like a male dog i've got to.
1049
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:58.420
Get one just so to watch the football with yeah do.
1050
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.659
Your daughters like my daughters are going for a stage
1051
00:44:00.699 --> 00:44:03.610
now they won't hug me because my beard's scratchy And
1052
00:44:03.650 --> 00:44:05.469
they hate that. That's something I'm struggling with at the
1053
00:44:05.489 --> 00:44:06.710
moment to the point where I have to pull a
1054
00:44:06.730 --> 00:44:09.110
jumper over my face, which I think is worse. And
1055
00:44:09.139 --> 00:44:10.460
then they'll do it. But now I feel like they're
1056
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:11.900
just doing it because they find it funny because I'm
1057
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:12.159
so pathetic.
1058
00:44:12.179 --> 00:44:13.739
Show me what you mean by pull a jumper over
1059
00:44:13.780 --> 00:44:14.219
your face.
1060
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:15.960
So I can't really do it with this one as such.
1061
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:17.010
But like if I had a bit more of a
1062
00:44:17.050 --> 00:44:17.670
looser one.
1063
00:44:17.690 --> 00:44:18.469
Like that?
1064
00:44:18.929 --> 00:44:20.170
Yeah, a bit like you just pull it over a
1065
00:44:20.170 --> 00:44:23.789
bit like a balaclava. and then I can hug me
1066
00:44:23.809 --> 00:44:25.949
there and then my beard's my beard's covered.
1067
00:44:25.889 --> 00:44:29.000
That is that's pathetic mental scars there.
1068
00:44:28.860 --> 00:44:32.050
Is that it's like my daughter there is this routine
1069
00:44:32.690 --> 00:44:35.929
in bed where that I kind of I've always done
1070
00:44:35.949 --> 00:44:38.789
the bedtimes where it's now like pajamas on.
1071
00:44:38.809 --> 00:44:41.550
You get one video to watch on my phone whilst
1072
00:44:41.590 --> 00:44:43.530
I'm in pajamas on because you can't work out. Otherwise,
1073
00:44:43.769 --> 00:44:45.989
they're jumping around. They can't get your legs in later.
1074
00:44:46.250 --> 00:44:46.889
So you get one video.
1075
00:44:46.909 --> 00:44:48.210
You get one video. That's fine.
1076
00:44:48.429 --> 00:44:51.380
It's then two stories. It's then have a little conversation
1077
00:44:51.389 --> 00:44:54.619
about stories. And then she leans on my arm and
1078
00:44:54.699 --> 00:44:56.980
she has a back tickle and then she's asleep. and
1079
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.179
it's like a half an hour but i'd rather go
1080
00:44:59.219 --> 00:45:01.539
through that than we've had other parents here that leave
1081
00:45:01.579 --> 00:45:04.019
their kids in beds with ipads or phones.
1082
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.179
Yes and i'm like no i'll go through my half
1083
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:07.599
an hour and then i know i'm good for the
1084
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.860
evening but the last two nights is she's always like
1085
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:12.559
she said daddy i'd lay on your arm lay on
1086
00:45:12.579 --> 00:45:13.880
your arm she goes and then for the last two
1087
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.320
nights she's gone your arm's too hot daddy.
1088
00:45:16.579 --> 00:45:20.010
And turned over and i'm that's killed me and i'm
1089
00:45:20.050 --> 00:45:24.650
like yes and i don't know but before.
1090
00:45:24.409 --> 00:45:25.809
That i've been moaning about her like oh why do
1091
00:45:25.829 --> 00:45:27.650
you have to allow my like into myself like oh
1092
00:45:27.730 --> 00:45:29.789
i've had to disarm and that's the routine and when
1093
00:45:29.829 --> 00:45:31.969
she says i don't want to do it i'm devastated
1094
00:45:32.110 --> 00:45:32.570
and i'm like.
1095
00:45:32.510 --> 00:45:34.949
Oh i know don't do that and then and then
1096
00:45:34.969 --> 00:45:37.369
when i get a bit older david like i was
1097
00:45:37.389 --> 00:45:40.210
like oh it'll get easier like but actually i'm finding
1098
00:45:40.230 --> 00:45:43.389
it harder because they get clever because they can negotiate
1099
00:45:43.449 --> 00:45:45.849
so it'll be like no three videos for that and
1100
00:45:45.869 --> 00:45:47.710
then it'll be like oh actually let's have a song
1101
00:45:47.730 --> 00:45:49.210
so they started going oh well can we have a
1102
00:45:49.250 --> 00:45:51.050
song on like the Alexa thing and they dance and
1103
00:45:51.070 --> 00:45:52.639
sing along to the song before bedtime, which is quite
1104
00:45:52.659 --> 00:45:54.559
a bad idea because they get all amped up.
1105
00:45:54.579 --> 00:45:56.320
Just wind them down by getting them to dance and
1106
00:45:56.340 --> 00:45:57.699
sing along to a song on Alexa.
1107
00:45:57.800 --> 00:45:59.280
And then they go, well, let me pick a song.
1108
00:45:59.340 --> 00:46:00.699
And then the other one will go, well, she picked
1109
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:02.320
a song. I need to pick a song now. And
1110
00:46:02.340 --> 00:46:03.929
then they go, well, you need to pick a song.
1111
00:46:03.969 --> 00:46:05.349
I'm like, I don't want to pick a song, but
1112
00:46:05.369 --> 00:46:06.949
it's only fair. I'm like, all right, I'll pick a
1113
00:46:06.969 --> 00:46:08.190
song then. And they're like, well, we need to do
1114
00:46:08.210 --> 00:46:12.590
the family song. I'm like, this never ends. And you're
1115
00:46:12.630 --> 00:46:15.949
so tired and weak. They're just like in your brain.
1116
00:46:16.010 --> 00:46:17.710
And I can't compete.
1117
00:46:18.170 --> 00:46:18.880
It's so hard.
1118
00:46:18.929 --> 00:46:20.460
But when you've got a routine like you've got at
1119
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.559
the moment, that is a sweet spot, I think.
1120
00:46:22.579 --> 00:46:23.940
It depends on the song you're choosing.
1121
00:46:23.980 --> 00:46:24.429
What do you go?
1122
00:46:24.460 --> 00:46:25.599
I want all by myself.
1123
00:46:25.900 --> 00:46:28.079
That's what I'm going to do. Yeah, yeah. When a
1124
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:31.489
man loves a woman. Percy Sledge trying to get him
1125
00:46:31.510 --> 00:46:31.909
to sleep.
1126
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:37.429
So, yeah, it's just a routine thing that we do.
1127
00:46:37.469 --> 00:46:41.909
But I love children negotiating where they don't actually realize.
1128
00:46:42.050 --> 00:46:44.500
So I go, all right, five minutes. And they go, three.
1129
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:45.960
And you go, OK, three is better.
1130
00:46:46.380 --> 00:46:47.079
Yeah, right.
1131
00:46:48.900 --> 00:46:53.949
Eat five more bits of pasta seven fine I'm glad
1132
00:46:53.969 --> 00:46:58.269
you do that three more bits the deal on the.
1133
00:46:58.230 --> 00:47:00.769
Pasta is that a bad thing to be.
1134
00:47:00.730 --> 00:47:03.360
Doing three bits of pasta one bit of avocado one
1135
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:06.880
carrot and then I'm terrible I never thought I'd like
1136
00:47:06.900 --> 00:47:09.630
the bribing thing yeah i've taken that one like if.
1137
00:47:09.590 --> 00:47:13.050
You do that you get an ice cream yeah pudding
1138
00:47:13.090 --> 00:47:14.710
yeah but the other day was i was trying to
1139
00:47:14.730 --> 00:47:17.000
get to finish a pizza to have pudding but a
1140
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:18.960
pudding was watermelon i'm like surely.
1141
00:47:18.739 --> 00:47:23.539
Just give it a watermelon that's Stop giving her pizza
1142
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:25.219
and let her have the fruit. The fruit's all right.
1143
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:27.780
It's not like she was going to have a tiramisu
1144
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.659
or something. So is there certain foods your kids are into?
1145
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:32.989
Are they just eating anything? Mine are quite picky. They
1146
00:47:33.349 --> 00:47:35.610
don't even like chips, though. Yeah, they don't like chips.
1147
00:47:35.650 --> 00:47:37.070
They're quite good. Plain pasta.
1148
00:47:37.210 --> 00:47:40.289
My other half is half Greek, so.
1149
00:47:42.110 --> 00:47:44.760
Yeah, I mean, we're used to around the house having
1150
00:47:45.420 --> 00:47:47.980
olives and big beans and stuff like that.
1151
00:47:48.619 --> 00:47:49.199
Big beans?
1152
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.739
They're called big beans. Even in Greece, they're.
1153
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:53.179
Called big beans.
1154
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:53.539
Oh, big beans.
1155
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.010
I've never had a big bean in a Greek salad.
1156
00:47:56.489 --> 00:48:00.650
Big beans. What do you mean, big beans? I can't imagine. Sure,
1157
00:48:00.690 --> 00:48:04.380
she's Greek. The Greek... I've been to Greece, I didn't
1158
00:48:04.420 --> 00:48:07.260
see one big bean, did I? I'd say average beans
1159
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:07.599
in Greece.
1160
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:09.440
They come out of a can, it says Heinz, and
1161
00:48:09.500 --> 00:48:14.900
it's Greek, that's big beans. No, I'm honestly just joking.
1162
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.360
I've googled big beans Greek.
1163
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:20.969
Yeah, and I now make those because she's Greek and
1164
00:48:21.030 --> 00:48:23.809
they're something that in Greece you're eating that's delicious.
1165
00:48:24.429 --> 00:48:26.630
It's like a gnocchi size. Oh, I know, a big bean.
1166
00:48:26.829 --> 00:48:28.909
Yeah, sorry.
1167
00:48:29.110 --> 00:48:33.389
Yeah, they're not olives. They'll eat olives and avocados and
1168
00:48:33.409 --> 00:48:35.699
stuff like that. Feta? Feta? Yeah.
1169
00:48:36.099 --> 00:48:40.320
I mean, this sounds terrible. She has either a croissant
1170
00:48:40.539 --> 00:48:41.780
or a pan of chocolate every morning.
1171
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:44.119
We went for a croissant face.
1172
00:48:44.539 --> 00:48:47.030
A 40-year-old divorcee that.
1173
00:48:46.949 --> 00:48:53.860
Works in media. Yeah. She has a latte as well, Rob.
1174
00:48:54.869 --> 00:48:59.289
She can't get started if she has a latte. That's not... That's.
1175
00:48:59.139 --> 00:49:02.539
Oat milk latte.
1176
00:49:02.739 --> 00:49:04.800
No, it's not terrible, but at the same time, it's like,
1177
00:49:05.219 --> 00:49:07.500
I don't know, cornflakes or Frosties. Yeah.
1178
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.139
A slice of toast or something. It's probably better than Frosties.
1179
00:49:10.420 --> 00:49:11.800
It's probably better than Frosties.
1180
00:49:11.860 --> 00:49:14.570
I can hear myself again in the morning. Would you
1181
00:49:14.590 --> 00:49:16.050
like a butter croissant or would you like a pan
1182
00:49:16.070 --> 00:49:16.570
of chocolate?
1183
00:49:16.630 --> 00:49:18.769
I'm like, what am I doing? What am I doing? Cheers.
1184
00:49:20.489 --> 00:49:22.239
Bagel my daughter has a buttered bagel the other one
1185
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.320
has but a jam on toast but i think jam
1186
00:49:24.380 --> 00:49:26.500
on toast is just like the english croissant or pan
1187
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:29.159
of chocolate it's not fancy though is it it's a
1188
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:32.159
bit of chocolate in the middle of some butter I know.
1189
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:33.219
Yeah.
1190
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:36.070
Because growing up, it was like, oh, you're a bit fancy. Actually,
1191
00:49:36.090 --> 00:49:38.530
it's just sort of normal food in France. No one
1192
00:49:38.550 --> 00:49:40.269
in France is going to look at this posh kid.
1193
00:49:44.059 --> 00:49:46.699
I don't think we're too strict. I would rather my children...
1194
00:49:47.619 --> 00:49:51.210
uh eat something they enjoy rather than trying to force
1195
00:49:51.250 --> 00:49:54.469
them yeah yeah what i presume yeah we will be
1196
00:49:54.489 --> 00:49:56.230
doing it's i think social media got a lot to
1197
00:49:56.250 --> 00:49:57.409
do with our life i feel.
1198
00:49:57.269 --> 00:50:00.650
Like your life your life changed david from your background
1199
00:50:00.670 --> 00:50:02.409
to where you are now and you're struggling with your
1200
00:50:02.449 --> 00:50:05.059
class i'd recommend a class act by rob beckett a
1201
00:50:05.099 --> 00:50:08.539
book that explores the nature of class and the impact
1202
00:50:08.619 --> 00:50:09.699
on people and their children.
1203
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:10.880
I'd say it's a great read.
1204
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:14.880
There's 200 pages on his first croissant. It's unbelievable stuff.
1205
00:50:14.900 --> 00:50:15.119
Yeah.
1206
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.849
3,000 words less than Prince Harry talking about Apache helicopters.
1207
00:50:17.889 --> 00:50:22.849
Oh, my God. Don't talk to me. Kids TV. Do
1208
00:50:22.889 --> 00:50:23.349
you watch it?
1209
00:50:23.730 --> 00:50:27.110
Yes what's your favorites and what oh but it progresses
1210
00:50:27.150 --> 00:50:29.190
doesn't it about what you what you you know from
1211
00:50:29.230 --> 00:50:31.989
when they're young to uh so coca melon we're back
1212
00:50:32.030 --> 00:50:33.170
on to coca melon.
1213
00:50:33.179 --> 00:50:35.639
Okay yeah oh that's a tough that's a tough one
1214
00:50:35.659 --> 00:50:38.340
that one i feel when i talk about kids programs
1215
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:42.679
i feel like four ex-cons talking about prisons but i
1216
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:46.619
did a fourth stretch of bill marshall he's been on
1217
00:50:46.900 --> 00:50:53.760
he's done two years on coca melon you what baby
1218
00:50:53.820 --> 00:50:57.579
jake was my belmarsh baby jake i did.
1219
00:50:57.389 --> 00:50:59.989
So you're on cocoa melon yeah cocoa melon uh dougie
1220
00:51:00.070 --> 00:51:03.110
i enjoy yeah dougie i can take there's certain ones
1221
00:51:03.170 --> 00:51:07.309
i can i will watch also blue we've done they're.
1222
00:51:07.110 --> 00:51:09.190
Still quite young though aren't they one or four.
1223
00:51:09.250 --> 00:51:12.659
Yeah so we're um like they they love like the
1224
00:51:12.699 --> 00:51:16.530
frozen thing um so in the car on the way
1225
00:51:16.550 --> 00:51:18.730
to is singing and i will do it as well
1226
00:51:19.309 --> 00:51:22.510
like it's either frozen umawana or yeah i can't remember
1227
00:51:22.530 --> 00:51:25.289
the other one was um there's like three days.
1228
00:51:25.070 --> 00:51:26.800
But encanto yes that's the one.
1229
00:51:26.780 --> 00:51:29.300
Yeah so it's those three but not that they sit
1230
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.639
and really watch the films it's more just the music
1231
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:33.739
in the car that we enjoy.
1232
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:36.619
So what about twirly woos have you done the twirly woos.
1233
00:51:36.829 --> 00:51:39.349
I quite like the twirly woos. I miss the twirly woos.
1234
00:51:39.510 --> 00:51:42.130
I like them. You're not into twirly woos yet? That's
1235
00:51:42.150 --> 00:51:44.639
like an open prison, isn't it? Yeah.
1236
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:48.510
One of those ones where, like, a financial crime you
1237
00:51:48.570 --> 00:51:49.139
get sent to.
1238
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:51.139
No, I haven't done twirly woos.
1239
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:52.579
I can't believe I just said the word twirly woos.
1240
00:51:52.780 --> 00:51:55.679
Oh, right, big beans and twirly woos. What an episode.
1241
00:51:55.739 --> 00:51:58.260
Also, I feel like sometimes I kind of get into
1242
00:51:58.280 --> 00:51:59.539
an episode and I want to know what.
1243
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.940
Like, have you ever gone back to Thomas the Tank Engine? Like,
1244
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:04.980
there's a story behind something. So the kids go, can
1245
00:52:05.019 --> 00:52:06.679
we turn over? I'm like, I just want to see
1246
00:52:06.699 --> 00:52:07.480
what happens to Tom.
1247
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:08.699
And Son this way.
1248
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:09.880
Just keep going.
1249
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:11.469
For 30 seconds. Like, oh, no.
1250
00:52:11.909 --> 00:52:13.409
Okay. Yeah, that's fine.
1251
00:52:13.730 --> 00:52:16.230
It is weird that, like, those people that make kids' shows,
1252
00:52:16.349 --> 00:52:20.090
when we talk to, like, so... They're seen by so
1253
00:52:20.150 --> 00:52:22.769
many people you wouldn't expect to watch these shows.
1254
00:52:22.869 --> 00:52:25.880
Do you know what I mean? Yes. Like, you wouldn't
1255
00:52:25.940 --> 00:52:28.059
think David Gandy would have a view on Hey Dougie.
1256
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:29.980
You just wouldn't think it, like....
1257
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:33.840
Have you been asked to do... Yeah, you must have
1258
00:52:33.860 --> 00:52:35.579
done a bedtime story, haven't you?
1259
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:38.059
No, I would actually quite like to do a bedtime story.
1260
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.780
Get him in, he'd be great. But again, that's something
1261
00:52:40.860 --> 00:52:43.510
I'd choose. I also... you know go what do you
1262
00:52:43.530 --> 00:52:45.050
want to read and I go oh daddy will choose
1263
00:52:45.070 --> 00:52:47.409
because daddy has the ones that he enjoys reading yeah
1264
00:52:47.570 --> 00:52:48.269
yeah not.
1265
00:52:48.190 --> 00:52:50.130
The ones that sometimes you enjoy reading like the dinosaur
1266
00:52:50.170 --> 00:52:52.550
that pooped hey poop's funny like that's that's a good
1267
00:52:52.570 --> 00:52:54.309
one if you don't don't saw the poop yeah don't
1268
00:52:54.329 --> 00:52:56.989
saw the poop to princess yeah the lady enjoys those
1269
00:52:57.110 --> 00:53:00.329
ones and um have you done you choose have you
1270
00:53:00.369 --> 00:53:02.610
got these books oh yeah they're good.
1271
00:53:02.309 --> 00:53:04.849
Those yeah so it's like no you're you're a princess
1272
00:53:04.889 --> 00:53:06.289
which castle do you want which.
1273
00:53:06.329 --> 00:53:08.869
Yeah they do this they read the they choose the.
1274
00:53:08.809 --> 00:53:11.530
Story my kids have got enough opinions.
1275
00:53:12.969 --> 00:53:17.829
How about I fucking choose?
1276
00:53:18.710 --> 00:53:19.469
Sorry. Very true.
1277
00:53:20.030 --> 00:53:22.329
Are they good, though? Do they like them? Yeah, they're good.
1278
00:53:22.550 --> 00:53:24.070
I quite enjoy them. They are good, I think. I
1279
00:53:24.090 --> 00:53:25.670
think they're good, those books.
1280
00:53:26.010 --> 00:53:28.639
Sometimes you and Stephanie just sit and do it. Does
1281
00:53:28.659 --> 00:53:29.860
she read You Choose to you?
1282
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:31.920
You get to choose.
1283
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:38.559
Um i think those days yeah i mean we.
1284
00:53:38.699 --> 00:53:41.610
It's good to know even gandhi's not shagging oh that's
1285
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:45.309
great it's good to know that's give me a real
1286
00:53:45.349 --> 00:53:47.550
boost dave that's really pumped me up.
1287
00:53:47.630 --> 00:53:50.130
It is that point of like you know having two
1288
00:53:50.210 --> 00:53:53.670
one was one was okay you've got a bit of
1289
00:53:53.710 --> 00:53:57.139
rest two is we have one each so if I'm
1290
00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:00.599
doing stories with Tilda Steph's putting the baby down and
1291
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.880
then that's our you know she looks up then be
1292
00:54:03.900 --> 00:54:06.190
the rules at the moment and if we are sometimes
1293
00:54:06.210 --> 00:54:10.260
ever just in the bed together like because we were
1294
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:12.360
just like oh wow like hang on a minute and
1295
00:54:12.380 --> 00:54:14.880
we're always waiting for like okay he's gonna wake up
1296
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:18.409
first or who yeah um and I'm quite strict about
1297
00:54:18.429 --> 00:54:22.030
children being in bed so my step isn't so she's
1298
00:54:22.110 --> 00:54:24.369
had the she'll have the baby in bed I can't
1299
00:54:24.389 --> 00:54:26.690
be in a bed with a baby because I just
1300
00:54:26.710 --> 00:54:29.920
think I just don't trust right I am i'm kind
1301
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:31.739
of big and i'm a deep sleeper when i do
1302
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.199
sleep and i just think i can't get to sleep
1303
00:54:34.219 --> 00:54:35.820
because i worry about it so i might as well
1304
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:37.920
just go and sleep somewhere else but i did feel
1305
00:54:37.980 --> 00:54:39.800
like for years i was i was literally like a
1306
00:54:39.860 --> 00:54:43.059
dog trying to find somewhere to sleep around the house
1307
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:45.079
like going around in a circle.
1308
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:49.110
Yeah just do that curling up on the.
1309
00:54:49.170 --> 00:54:52.909
Floor like anywhere and I don't think and I thought
1310
00:54:52.929 --> 00:54:54.139
this was just me and then he speaks to other
1311
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:56.219
dags he goes oh no he said you know but
1312
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:57.739
Dave one of my friends is six foot six and
1313
00:54:57.760 --> 00:54:59.539
he says I've been you know trying to sleep in
1314
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:01.679
the same single bed as my son for years like he.
1315
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:03.969
Just has to sleep in there and then We're all
1316
00:55:04.030 --> 00:55:06.929
doing the same thing. So, yeah, but I am quite strict.
1317
00:55:06.949 --> 00:55:09.489
So if my daughter comes in, see, that's something I
1318
00:55:09.489 --> 00:55:11.230
learned from my mum and dad as well, is that
1319
00:55:11.289 --> 00:55:12.969
if I ever went down and say, I can't sleep
1320
00:55:12.989 --> 00:55:15.610
or go into the bedroom, then my parents would use that.
1321
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:18.340
It's a trick, it's a parenting thing, is they don't
1322
00:55:18.380 --> 00:55:20.519
say anything to you. They just take you by your
1323
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:23.820
hand and you're escorted back into your bedroom. They sit there,
1324
00:55:23.860 --> 00:55:24.679
but they don't say anything.
1325
00:55:25.179 --> 00:55:26.619
So you're just straight back into your bed.
1326
00:55:26.659 --> 00:55:28.460
Now, I will say stuff and have a little conversation,
1327
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:31.010
but if she comes in, I do get straight out
1328
00:55:31.030 --> 00:55:32.130
and we go back to your bedroom.
1329
00:55:32.510 --> 00:55:36.170
Oh, come on then. Yeah, because we're the same. We
1330
00:55:36.210 --> 00:55:38.289
don't really have them in our bed at all. We
1331
00:55:38.309 --> 00:55:40.269
never have, even when they were a lot younger. If
1332
00:55:40.329 --> 00:55:42.469
they cried or were upset or had a bad dream,
1333
00:55:42.489 --> 00:55:45.030
we'd sit with them in their room until they went
1334
00:55:45.070 --> 00:55:47.489
back to sleep. And then on the odd occasion, we've
1335
00:55:47.510 --> 00:55:50.269
slept with them, but normally we come back into the bedroom.
1336
00:55:50.409 --> 00:55:54.510
But some people do have them in their bed for... years,
1337
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:56.860
to like six or seven or eight, and it would
1338
00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:58.260
drive me mad. I couldn't do it.
1339
00:55:58.780 --> 00:55:59.920
No.
1340
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:02.360
But you try, I mean, in the end, you're so
1341
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:04.739
sometimes tired, you're like, I'm just going to sleep in
1342
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:05.760
the bed with them.
1343
00:56:05.780 --> 00:56:07.489
Yeah. I've done that as well.
1344
00:56:07.590 --> 00:56:10.409
Yeah, well, my youngest, who's five, came in at 5 a.m.,
1345
00:56:10.550 --> 00:56:11.610
and she was like, I had a bad dream, and
1346
00:56:11.630 --> 00:56:12.730
I'm like, lay there, go to sleep.
1347
00:56:12.889 --> 00:56:13.909
I'm like, because.
1348
00:56:14.500 --> 00:56:17.320
It's too near getting up time to try and get
1349
00:56:17.340 --> 00:56:18.630
her back in. I'm like, just lay there and go
1350
00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:20.650
to sleep. We'll get two hours of sleep. But it's
1351
00:56:20.690 --> 00:56:22.190
quite nice, actually, to have a little cuddle.
1352
00:56:22.269 --> 00:56:25.010
The terrible parenting, I would actually say, I'm really guilty
1353
00:56:25.050 --> 00:56:26.889
of probably lots of things. But one of them is
1354
00:56:27.050 --> 00:56:30.190
in the morning at like 6.30, and she said, Daddy,
1355
00:56:30.210 --> 00:56:32.789
can I watch something on your phone? I will go,
1356
00:56:33.050 --> 00:56:35.050
and I know I'll get 20 more minutes or half
1357
00:56:35.210 --> 00:56:40.130
an hour. And I'm quite careful about what they watch
1358
00:56:40.230 --> 00:56:42.349
on phone or YouTube or anything.
1359
00:56:42.409 --> 00:56:45.230
I make sure I can choose everything. At that time
1360
00:56:45.250 --> 00:56:50.090
of the morning, she could be watching Science of the Lambs. Like,
1361
00:56:50.110 --> 00:56:51.550
she could come out and do a review in the car.
1362
00:56:51.650 --> 00:56:54.110
I didn't think Anthony Hopkins was that good in that.
1363
00:56:54.150 --> 00:56:56.210
Not compared to Science of the Lambs.
1364
00:56:56.230 --> 00:57:01.960
She's watching Andrew Tate videos. Comes out top G. Actually,
1365
00:57:01.980 --> 00:57:05.619
I think the Matrix is trying to get him, Dad.
1366
00:57:05.860 --> 00:57:08.460
Lance, should we do the final question, Josh? It's been
1367
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:11.039
an absolute pleasure. Oh, it's been brilliant, mate. Thank you
1368
00:57:11.059 --> 00:57:11.760
for this, David.
1369
00:57:13.059 --> 00:57:16.860
Our final question is, what one thing does your partner
1370
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:19.010
do that you think is kind of.
1371
00:57:20.630 --> 00:57:21.949
I can't do the final question. I'm so bad at
1372
00:57:21.989 --> 00:57:23.369
the final question. Why am I so bad at it?
1373
00:57:23.389 --> 00:57:25.849
Final question is, what one thing winds you up about
1374
00:57:25.869 --> 00:57:29.170
the way your partner's definitely parents that really gets under
1375
00:57:29.190 --> 00:57:30.389
your skin, but you don't really bring it up because
1376
00:57:30.409 --> 00:57:32.329
you don't have an argument about it or kick off,
1377
00:57:32.389 --> 00:57:34.230
everyone's tired. But if she was to listen back, she
1378
00:57:34.250 --> 00:57:36.230
might go, you know, I think he's got a point there.
1379
00:57:36.250 --> 00:57:38.690
And as well as that, to get you out of jail,
1380
00:57:38.730 --> 00:57:42.670
which you might need, considering she's a barrister, what is
1381
00:57:42.929 --> 00:57:44.820
the positive? What is the thing that she does when
1382
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:46.610
you go, I am so happy that I had children
1383
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:48.800
with this woman. She is amazing. What does she do
1384
00:57:48.840 --> 00:57:53.380
as a mum? got a tough ask here dave i
1385
00:57:53.420 --> 00:57:55.000
love this one we say we've never really.
1386
00:57:54.820 --> 00:57:57.280
Said it then but let's do it on a podcast
1387
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:00.159
like millions people and then that will be fine she'll.
1388
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:02.199
Like that one it's a service because if she listens
1389
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:04.579
she might go yeah that's right actually you could have
1390
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:06.679
told her as well just reinforce it on it it's
1391
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:09.610
up to you um Depends how difficult you want this
1392
00:58:09.650 --> 00:58:10.530
weekend to be for you.
1393
00:58:10.909 --> 00:58:12.250
Yeah.
1394
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Now, how long do I not want to be.
1395
00:58:13.369 --> 00:58:15.280
That'll put the pressure on, but a lot of people
1396
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:16.239
listen to this show.
1397
00:58:16.260 --> 00:58:20.460
How long do I want to be ignored for this week?
1398
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:22.860
I mean, she is a.
1399
00:58:23.179 --> 00:58:25.239
I think she's probably a match for, I would say,
1400
00:58:25.260 --> 00:58:29.420
the positive things, like... a natural parent more than me
1401
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:32.550
i would probably say she's she's wanted children she's she's
1402
00:58:33.250 --> 00:58:36.769
absolutely brilliant like she's like i can't there's there's not
1403
00:58:36.829 --> 00:58:41.150
many things um i say we repair even though even
1404
00:58:41.210 --> 00:58:44.489
if i think we're quite we you know she doesn't
1405
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:46.960
quite agree with something i've done or something i said
1406
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:49.539
to the children and i'm vice versa is we'll back
1407
00:58:49.579 --> 00:58:52.570
each other up So, yeah, well, daddy says, you do
1408
00:58:52.590 --> 00:58:53.750
what daddy says and you do what mommy says.
1409
00:58:53.789 --> 00:58:55.010
Even then, they'll go out and they'll go, well, I
1410
00:58:55.030 --> 00:58:57.750
don't actually agree with what you've done there, but that's like, well, we'll.
1411
00:58:57.610 --> 00:58:58.630
Have that discussion later.
1412
00:58:58.989 --> 00:59:01.829
So, I think we are always backing each other up,
1413
00:59:02.409 --> 00:59:06.460
um which is good um no she's just an incredible
1414
00:59:06.699 --> 00:59:09.239
mum like she she really really is and and that's
1415
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.789
instilled it's like she teaches the kids to love each
1416
00:59:11.849 --> 00:59:14.829
other as well like the two kids absolutely adore each
1417
00:59:14.889 --> 00:59:17.030
other three years and she's.
1418
00:59:16.909 --> 00:59:21.150
How do you do that This will change.
1419
00:59:21.630 --> 00:59:23.670
This will absolutely change.
1420
00:59:24.210 --> 00:59:26.389
How do you do that? How do you rank that?
1421
00:59:26.429 --> 00:59:27.289
I don't know.
1422
00:59:27.369 --> 00:59:29.750
When this was like 13, 14, I think that might
1423
00:59:29.809 --> 00:59:31.349
change slightly.
1424
00:59:31.730 --> 00:59:32.130
Absolutely.
1425
00:59:32.170 --> 00:59:35.309
But the one thing that does wrong, I don't... God,
1426
00:59:36.230 --> 00:59:37.610
I'm not going to go there.
1427
00:59:37.710 --> 00:59:39.820
Come on, you pussy. Go there.
1428
00:59:39.860 --> 00:59:43.500
LAUGHTER The worst thing is the fact you won't go
1429
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:45.570
there means that there is one that he knows. There
1430
00:59:45.690 --> 00:59:46.969
is one to go.
1431
00:59:47.550 --> 00:59:48.730
I'm probably struggling too.
1432
00:59:48.989 --> 00:59:51.329
I think the only thing we think of, me and
1433
00:59:51.349 --> 00:59:55.449
Steph are very, very different as in I love the outdoors.
1434
00:59:55.949 --> 00:59:58.389
I am a bit of a loner, but I love
1435
00:59:58.409 --> 01:00:02.219
the outdoors and taking dog walks and walking up mountains
1436
01:00:02.300 --> 01:00:03.980
and doing all these different things. And I would love
1437
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.559
my children to be the same. And Steph, like a
1438
01:00:07.579 --> 01:00:10.420
lot of people, is not doesn't enjoy that she's you
1439
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:12.800
know she's also greeks do not understand walking up mountains
1440
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.119
any people do be like i will tell you we
1441
01:00:15.139 --> 01:00:16.579
went once in greece and we said oh we walked
1442
01:00:16.619 --> 01:00:20.320
up mountains mount uh mount zeus and the waiter went
1443
01:00:20.340 --> 01:00:21.449
to me why did you do that.
1444
01:00:21.909 --> 01:00:25.530
Just keep bringing me fucking big beans and keep it
1445
01:00:25.550 --> 01:00:28.110
to yourself all right i don't know because of the
1446
01:00:28.130 --> 01:00:28.550
view shut.
1447
01:00:28.489 --> 01:00:35.119
Up But Stephanie's like that, and I like my children.
1448
01:00:36.780 --> 01:00:38.139
I want them outside with me.
1449
01:00:38.219 --> 01:00:38.780
I want them running.
1450
01:00:39.489 --> 01:00:41.650
We have been doing that now. We've moved to the
1451
01:00:41.710 --> 01:00:43.710
new house, and we're in Richmond Park, and we've been
1452
01:00:43.889 --> 01:00:49.510
building fairy dens. But there is a case where Stephanie goes, no,
1453
01:00:49.550 --> 01:00:50.429
I'm not really.
1454
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:52.420
It's quite cold.
1455
01:00:52.579 --> 01:00:55.300
And it's hard to go, kids, come with me, or
1456
01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:57.260
stay at home with mummy in the warm.
1457
01:00:57.300 --> 01:00:59.679
Yeah, like we all want to kind of do. It's like,
1458
01:00:59.699 --> 01:01:01.809
let's come out. Is mummy coming? No, she's not coming. Well,
1459
01:01:01.849 --> 01:01:03.230
why are we going? That's just it.
1460
01:01:03.250 --> 01:01:03.929
Just do as you're told.
1461
01:01:04.030 --> 01:01:11.489
Just come with me. So it's not a criticism. It's
1462
01:01:11.530 --> 01:01:15.369
just we're different in that way. But from that, I just.
1463
01:01:15.389 --> 01:01:17.739
Well, I suppose she'll be the judge of criticism or
1464
01:01:17.780 --> 01:01:19.260
not when she listens, won't she?
1465
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:22.920
She's a barrister. She will be the judge, definitely.
1466
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.440
And even if she doesn't listen, David, she will be
1467
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:26.929
told about it at the school gate.
1468
01:01:26.989 --> 01:01:29.570
Yet to win an argument in six years in this study.
1469
01:01:29.650 --> 01:01:32.650
Yeah, how is that? Do you genuinely just lose every
1470
01:01:32.730 --> 01:01:33.710
argument with a barrister?
1471
01:01:33.869 --> 01:01:34.010
Come.
1472
01:01:34.030 --> 01:01:36.219
Remember barristers you got it's just that they are trained
1473
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:39.260
just to they they are they are they are brilliantly
1474
01:01:39.699 --> 01:01:44.849
trained to get what they want you to say out
1475
01:01:44.889 --> 01:01:47.849
of view that's pretty much it and you go.
1476
01:01:47.610 --> 01:01:49.710
Even when i think like she's done something really i'm
1477
01:01:49.730 --> 01:01:51.570
like got it right i might have to have a
1478
01:01:51.590 --> 01:01:53.869
go at this one somehow i come out still being
1479
01:01:53.889 --> 01:01:54.969
the bad person i'm.
1480
01:01:54.809 --> 01:01:57.320
Like how did that one happen like you did that
1481
01:01:57.360 --> 01:01:58.820
wrong and i'm it's it's.
1482
01:01:58.739 --> 01:02:01.079
Me if you ever are kicking off do you ever
1483
01:02:01.099 --> 01:02:03.039
go and put a wig and gown on and go
1484
01:02:03.099 --> 01:02:06.400
to talk to her and go look i'm feeling pretty
1485
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.599
confident about this argument actually i've gone full.
1486
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:12.320
Method David, thank you so much. Thanks so much. It's amazing.
1487
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:15.900
And good luck with your new range of well wear.
1488
01:02:16.019 --> 01:02:16.489
Thank you.
1489
01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:19.340
I'm going to get myself a nice soft cotton hoodie
1490
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:21.360
and trousers and be able to wear them for the
1491
01:02:21.420 --> 01:02:24.670
school run without the disrespect that I get currently.
1492
01:02:24.730 --> 01:02:26.849
Yeah. It'd be good to see them on some hot
1493
01:02:26.909 --> 01:02:29.469
bodies because I've looked at the pictures of you modelling it, David,
1494
01:02:29.510 --> 01:02:31.210
and I thought, you want to see it on me
1495
01:02:31.230 --> 01:02:35.909
and Rob? On some real men. That's what we need.
1496
01:02:35.989 --> 01:02:36.769
On some real men.
1497
01:02:37.110 --> 01:02:39.510
I'll be photographed running out the chip shop with a
1498
01:02:39.510 --> 01:02:40.030
load of chips.
1499
01:02:41.730 --> 01:02:43.579
It's a real man. That's how a real man wears it.
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01:02:44.130 --> 01:02:46.769
But thanks so much, David. Cheers for this. Lovely, guys.
1501
01:02:49.449 --> 01:02:51.530
David Gandy there. What a lovely bloke.
1502
01:02:51.849 --> 01:02:54.590
He's an absolute legend. Because I met him with Romesh.
1503
01:02:54.630 --> 01:02:57.489
He's such a good bloke. Sadly, he's the full package.
1504
01:02:57.530 --> 01:03:00.300
That's really annoying. Well, do you know what?
1505
01:03:00.659 --> 01:03:02.460
I felt that because I was like, oh, he's probably
1506
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:05.619
going to be like boring or a wanker. No, funny, likeable,
1507
01:03:05.699 --> 01:03:06.239
really good bloke.
1508
01:03:06.260 --> 01:03:07.000
Really charming.
1509
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:09.659
Heart in the right place. Very sensible. But what I
1510
01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:12.179
respect about it is he doesn't ram it down your throat.
1511
01:03:12.380 --> 01:03:12.800
He doesn't.
1512
01:03:13.099 --> 01:03:15.920
He lets it out in bursts. He's not front and centre.
1513
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:19.530
He allows us to think maybe... There's something wrong with him,
1514
01:03:19.869 --> 01:03:21.769
even though he knows he's great.
1515
01:03:22.469 --> 01:03:24.329
Right, see you on Tuesday. That was David Gandy. What
1516
01:03:24.349 --> 01:03:25.010
a bloke.
1517
01:03:25.050 --> 01:03:29.630
His clothes actually do look decent, actually. Sometimes, let's be honest,
1518
01:03:29.650 --> 01:03:30.849
you do this show and they say, oh, can you
1519
01:03:30.869 --> 01:03:32.789
mention that? You look at it and go, ugh. But
1520
01:03:32.849 --> 01:03:34.550
I was actually looking at it going, oh, I'd wear that. Yeah,
1521
01:03:34.610 --> 01:03:35.150
that looks good.
1522
01:03:35.389 --> 01:03:37.969
Looks comfy and smart. Right, see you Tuesday. Bye.