Outsiders | 6 September

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Speaker 1: This is Outsiders.
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Speaker 2: Good morning.
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Speaker 3: Happy Father's Day to all the Outsiders dads out there and welcome to Outsiders, the show that is to climate disinformation and misinformation what Anthony Albanese is to climate truth-telling.
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Speaker 4: It is very good to be back here for my fifth meeting of the Pacific Islands Forum. Climate change is an existential threat to the very existence of some of the countries who are represented here.
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Speaker 2: Really?
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Speaker 5: Would the Prime Minister care to explain to us, in more specific detail, which countries are actually about to disappear beneath the waves?
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Speaker 4: In overcoming days, climate change, but also the issue of security, will be absolutely critical, including dealing with transnational crime. The Pacific is our home. and Pacific family needs to work together.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems like a rather vague situation where our Pacific family are at such grave risk. This despite the fact that even the ABC were forced to agree with Craig Kelly, and that must have really hurt them, that the island of Tuvalu was actually getting larger, not disappearing. Still, what's a few growing atolls between friends? Meanwhile, whatever you do, don't ask the PM who's actually bothering to turn up to Chris Bowen's $ 20 million climate shindig.
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Speaker 4: You're being very disrespectful here in the Pacific.
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Speaker 1: Five world leaders. Global leaders. Well, outside of the Pacific.
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Speaker 2: Well, sorry, but we.
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Speaker 4: Need to actually have some respect for the process.
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Speaker 1: What about respect for tax payers?
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Speaker 4: And respect for our Pacific leaders.
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Speaker 3: And while Albo Bowen and those other clowns and five climate carpetbaggers sit around the pool waiting for the islands to get washed away, let's grab the latest Outsiders news. Rita and James, this whole Bowen thing is an absolute farce. Rita, we've got five people turning up from islands nobody's ever heard of to sit there and save the planet.
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Speaker 5: Yes, the Prime Minister was at pains to point out that there are five non-Pacific nations turning up and we've got to pay our respects to those Pacific nations who are turning up, you know, on our dollar. And what are they turning up to? six-star, five-star hotels in Fiji for a little talk fest in between cocktails and time by the pool. Give me a break. And when you look at the five world leaders coming from non-Pacific nations, let me just tell you some of these. Capo Verde, little country no-one's heard of, 500,000 people. They'll be there. East Timor, somewhere called Barbado. So this is where our taxpayer dollars are going and this entire little pre-COP31 talkfest, so this is a talkfest they have before they go to the real talkfest.
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Speaker 3: Real talkfest, yeah.
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Speaker 5: They're just... The taxpayer money that's going towards this essentially for Chris Bowen's ego. This is feeding his ego, his ambitions of a life, I don't know, in the UN, post the Albanese government.
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Speaker 3: 100%.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 6: And that's the whole thing. This whole thing is an entire ego-driven play. Remember, he spent how many tens of millions of dollars trying to get Australia to host the next big COP talks?
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Speaker 2: That didn't work out. It's going to Turkey. Or, I'm sorry, do we say turkey-ay now? Sorry. Yeah, of course.
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Speaker 6: I want to be very proper about these sorts of things. But, no, this whole thing is just a great big $ 20 million salve for Chris Bowen's arrogant ego. He is by far the most arrogant minister in this government. and that we are spending all of this money at a time of record deficits so that we can fly a few leaders and groups from, you know, some different countries around to Fiji, of all places, to have a pre-meeting dialogue.
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Speaker 5: A lot of nice resorts in Fiji.
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Speaker 2: Number one. Number one.
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Speaker 5: A lot of nice resorts.
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Speaker 6: A lot of beautiful resorts. If I'm paying for someone to go to a resort in Fiji, it's me. It's not going to be some, you know, guy from some... climate bureaucracy in some.
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Speaker 2: In Cabo Verde.
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Speaker 6: In Cabo Verde. So, this is the first thing that's really, really offensive about this. So, you know, secondly, why wouldn't they have it in Australia? You know, pitch it as a, hey, Australian tourism is going to benefit, this money's going to go to an Australian resort operator. Oh, but no, no, no, actually, the thing that we would love to see, but they'll never do, we all learned how to do it during the pandemic, hold the meeting by Zoom.
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Speaker 2: This is a government.
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Speaker 6: You know, Anthony Albanese always goes, well, you know, we protect your right to work from home and all of this sort of thing, you know, which is all just Zoom calling, right? Why don't they just get on their laptops, flip it over, click on, have a meeting and do it that way?
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Speaker 5: Well, because it is a junket. That's what it's there for. That's how you entice these people to turn up and to participate. And we may look at the cost of this, and it is obscene, but really, you talk about Chris Bowen and his influence on the Albanese government, what's happening in his portfolios... The cost to the Australian taxpayer is far greater than this little junket. The madness of our energy policy, the impact it's having on manufacturing, it's having on households, that is on another spectrum altogether. I mean, we're talking about billions, and you could argue possibly in the long run over a trillion.
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Speaker 3: Well, what was obscene about the Prime Minister there was this catastrophizing, so this endless doomsday alarmism. He stood there saying that the trip was all about these islands which are facing these existential threats. An existential threat means you're going to disappear. It's all over. I mean, the reality is they are building more and more of these luxury resorts. So you go to the Maldives, which is supposed to... disappeared 20 years ago under the waves. Not as far as the developers are concerned. It's all hunky-dory. They haven't seen the rising sea levels.
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Speaker 5: That's one of the five non-Pacific world leaders, you know, another superpower who's deigning to show up to this talk fest. Forgot about the Maldives.
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Speaker 3: We just had earlier on Sky, Andrew Connell, interviewing Matt Thistlethwaite, who was saying, oh, well, Every time we talk to any of our Pacific neighbours, the first thing they mention is climate change.
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Speaker 2: I bet they do. Hello! I bet they do. Give me money. Give me the money. But, Rowan and Rita, this is the thing here. Yes, you're right about that.
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Speaker 6: This is such a political loser, though, for this government, because every single survey you look at where people are asked, what issues do you care about? You know, it is all about the economy, immigration, housing... Crime is shooting up the list in all the local surveys. Climate change is sinking like a proverbial Pacific island. But, you know, of course, there's a second sort of element to this thing which also needs to be discussed.
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Speaker 5: They're expanding, James. Bad analogy. They're actually getting bigger, we just established.
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Speaker 6: But this is a thing. This is the joke that the other part of this is, well, as Donald Trump would say.
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Speaker 2: China. This is what it's all about.
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Speaker 6: It's also about a way to pay off these countries to try and keep them on side from China's blandishments.
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Speaker 3: But just to be honest about it.
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Speaker 5: But we're enriching China by these climate policies.
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Speaker 7: Yes.
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Speaker 5: Where do you think the solar panels come from? Where do you think the wind turbines come from? So, if this is all to hold China at bay, then why are we enriching them, turning a blind eye to the fact that Uyghur slaves are manufacturing some of this product? I mean, it is just so... obscene and contradictory and self-defeating. We are harming ourselves with these policies. And they're going to look back at this period as a period of just mass madness, that a country as blessed as Australia, rich with every natural resource that the rest of the world would kill for, has got some of the highest energy costs in the world. And you talk about climate change is not a top-tier issue for most voters. Once they understand... that these policies have made their energy bills more expensive, not cheaper, then you're going to see the real reckoning. Because most people, I think, people who are not particularly politically engaged, are still hearing this mantra of renewables are the cheapest form of energy. When they figure out renewables have actually shot up their energy costs, that these new transmission lines are actually costing... That's what's hurting them.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 5: People in the country, people in regional areas are more keenly aware because that sort of infrastructure is in their backyard. It's soiling their beautiful landscape. But people in the city, so many of them are ignorant about the true cost of renewables.
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Speaker 3: I think people are waking up to it, and I think that's why One Nation's popularity is soaring, for example. Yeah. And the Coalition have got to try and do more, I think. I mean, pull out of Paris would seem to me the obvious way to go if you want to signal that you're over the whole climate bandwagon. But, listen, I just want to say something else that is really important about the fraud that is being perpetrated by this whole climate thing. And that is a brilliant article in The Australian yesterday by Michael Schellenberger, great friend of this show. He's been on here many times. He's pointed out talking about the disaster in Nepal. And, yes, there are still 36 Australians in our thoughts. and prayers are with their families and loved ones who are missing. But what Schellenberger goes to, we've heard an awful lot from the ABC and all the kind of lovey politicians, the Teals, oh, this is an example of climate change, it was climate change that led to the permafrost melting, et cetera, et cetera. Michael Schellenberger points out that, A, nothing could be further from the truth, and on Friday I went through all the seismic activity which may have led to the collapse of the bedrock, not the ice sheet, the bedrock underneath the ice sheet. But more importantly, Schellenberger points out that there has been a tonne of money pumped into Nepal... in the name of climate change. They've got renewables projects. They've got this, greening Nepal for a climate future. Millions and millions of dollars which went into that and they've abandoned and neglected the classic old-fashioned things such as alarm systems, early warning systems, which could have saved lives.
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Speaker 5: And it's a cheap fix, he said, if they had actually did what they were supposed to do with an early warning system, which is not an exorbitant cost. They would have saved, well, we don't know how many lives, because the death toll is anywhere between 900 and 5,000, the estimates are at the moment. And it's such a tragedy. And he explains how in Bangladesh, just not long ago, an early warning systems just saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Back in the 1970s, a similar incident cost upwards of 500,000 lives. So it shows you if you give the people in those areas a warning, allow them to get to higher ground.
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Speaker 3: Of course they're going to get to it.
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Speaker 5: But they didn't. They had, like, 12 minutes. They had no warning. And it's just... And all the focus.
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Speaker 3: Mad thing. This is why I come back to the lie that Albanese and Bowen and others are standing there saying, existential threat, existential threat. The lie is, if you focus on climate initiatives, James, you're ignoring the good old-fashioned, proper, real initiatives that are actually practical solutions to save lives. This is something Bjorn Lomborg talks about. All this focus on trying to get carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and all this nonsense is diverting... attention and funds from where they really need to be in practical solutions to practical problems.
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Speaker 6: And Rowan, you know, you make a really good point because people are actually really adaptable to living in all sorts of different circumstances, all sorts of climactic circumstances, all sorts of weather circumstances, all sorts of geological circumstances. And you think about this, people have been doing this know almost forever you know think about amsterdam hundreds of years ago they managed to build a system of sea walls so that they could have a city below sea level i mean this is this is something that can be done just simply but what it requires is prosperity and it requires investment and all of the climate stuff it's a double hit to both of those things because number one it is a sink of money that goes to stuff that is all virtuous but doesn't actually do anything, and B, it makes energy more expensive. And of course, we all know that cheap energy has historically always, since long before the Industrial Revolution, harnessing physics to do things, essentially what you're talking about. doing that efficiently, cheaply, and productively, that is the entire story of progress. And that is why I'm so, like... It's not just about the climate thing.
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Speaker 2: It's why this is.
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Speaker 6: It's anti-human. It's really anti-human. And these people, they call themselves progressive. They call themselves progressive all the time. This is the most anti-progress thing you could imagine. And the really.
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Speaker 3: Scathing comment that Schellenberger makes, I urge you to read the piece in The Australian, is that all this money, and we're talking a lot of money, many, many millions of dollars from USAID, from the United Nations, from America, from the wealthy West, et cetera, being pumped into these climate initiatives, the point he makes is that most of that money just goes to propping up the bureaucrats, the bureaucracies, what he calls the climate architecture. So they go, well, we've got a climate change unit. Now we need a climate change division to supervise the climate change unit to make sure the climate change... You know, and on and on it goes. That is exactly what is happening in the Pacific, as far as I'm aware. It's just more bureaucratic money and nothing going towards any genuine, you know, areas where the money should be going to, such as in Nepal. Anyway, also, a really depressing story over the weekend... To do with the fact that we saw the police being told to target far right rather than Islamists or radical Islam in the run-up to Bondi, James.
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Speaker 6: Yes, and this is something that we've heard many times before, but we've had, you know, more confirmation of it this week. We've also had ASIO director Mike Burgess talking about all of this and saying, oh, you know, well, We could have done more about that. We should have been listening to the rise of anti-Semitism that was going on in Australia before.
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Speaker 2: the Bandai massacre.
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Speaker 6: But this is the thing that gets me about this, because if you go back to 2023 with Mike Burgess, in December of 2023, Burgess himself told Michelle Anandarajah, the Victorian MP, that actually these pro-Palestine protests are a good way to let pressure off in the community and release steam so as to, you know, that that was better than having a terrorist attack. So I think we really... need to have a hard look at what Asia has been doing. Their priorities, you know, we know that under this government, they love to push that button of, you know, it's the far right. We saw the absolute meltdown that Anthony Albanese had last week over One Nation. We saw what Michelle Rowland, the attorney general, has been saying. Essentially, very sneakily... linking One Nation to neo-Nazis. Now, that is both, you know, an incredible verbaling of everybody who's involved with and who supports One Nation, but also you can see this as a precursor to start to build the architecture to start to restrain the party, the same way that right-wing parties in Europe have been done by the European bureaucracy.
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Speaker 2: Watch closely.
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Speaker 6: It's the same thing with censorship. They're going to do the same thing with One Nation that they're doing with parties in Europe.
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Speaker 5: And I think this is where it's very important for the Jewish community en masse to come out and reject that sort of narrative because this is an insult to that community and what it has suffered. And the Labor Party, which you look at its voting record at the UN, you look at how weak it's been to the rise of anti-Semitism in this country, cannot use the neo-Nazi threat to go after their political opponents. It is so cynical, it is so wrong, and I think it really needs to be called out in the strongest fashion possible. And to have Pauline Hanson personally and the party supporters demonised in that manner when they know there's credible death threats against her, one of them is before the courts right now, when we a few weeks ago had students, Australian teenagers out in the streets chanting for her to be murdered and to be tortured. saying it openly in public, in front of cameras, in that climate, to be putting more fuel on the fire by almost excusing that behaviour rather than condemning it, I think the Prime Minister has really sunk to a new low this week, and the Labor Party as well.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. And you know who are neo-Nazis? You know who is actually far, far, far, far right? That's radical Islam. They are the neo-Nazis. That is your far, far, far, far right. They want to kill Jews. They have a doctrine, a political ideology, which is based on basically many... or similar to many Nazi beliefs. So talk about that, Albo, for a change, rather than making excuses. Let's also talk about, James, this... Well done. We've got a good news story.
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Speaker 2: A good news story.
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Speaker 3: We've got someone who's finally standing up to the nonsense of Indigenous... signs, virtue signalling, and so on.
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Speaker 6: Yes, Strathfield Council in Western Sydney has... a Liberal council there put forward a motion, and, boy, has this got everybody in a tizzy, that they're going to take down all of the always-was, always-will-be signs, all of the.
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Speaker 2: Bravo!
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Speaker 6: Whatever tribal land that it is. And I say, good, this is about time. Because, you know, number one, it annoys all the right people. It's got everybody who reads the City Morning Herald losing their mind. So, you know, that's a tick, number one. The ABC would be going crazy. But there's a serious point to this, too. You know, the council said these signs are political in their nature. And he's absolutely right. And I also just don't think that Any government in Australia, whether your local council or the federal government with your three flags or New South Wales with the two flags on the Harbour Bridge, which is ridiculous, should be supporting the idea that the land which you govern is somehow not legitimately yours to govern.
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Speaker 5: It is. It's just such vacuous virtue signalling, but really divisive as well, to say always was, always will be, referring to it as wangle country. But I do love the Sydney Morning Herald's coverage of this, the headline, appalling! Sydney Council sparks backlash after raising Indigenous... Like, you know, the reporting of it is just so... typically hysterical. And I think they're also outraged that this is one of the most culturally diverse councils as well. So you've got people on council from all sorts of ethnic backgrounds saying, enough.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got us.
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Speaker 5: The people don't want this. The people who actually vote for us and who live in these areas don't want to have these signs and this sort of narrative shoved down their throats. So good on them. We don't have too many.
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Speaker 2: Good stories from local councils.
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Speaker 3: No, good on them. They deserve all the praise. And more councils need to start doing this, because this is ridiculous. I mean, it's about time, you know, Australians have woken up to the fact these names aren't catching on. I hate to tell you, most of them aren't. There are some wonderful Aboriginal names. Woolloomooloo was one of my favourites. But these ones like Naam and Gadigal, they're not catching on. People don't wander around going... The only people who say Gadigal are the confused tourists going, I wanted to go to the town hall on the metro and I've ended up at this place called Gadigal. They're the only people saying the name. And these signs across the... You say, for example, up in the Central Coast, You see these signs everywhere. You're in this country, you're in that country. It is ridiculous and it's offensive, as James was saying. You are basically telling the people who pay your rates and your salaries that their land that they own is not their land. It's the most offensive thing a council can do, is to tell you, we're going to take your rate money in the one hand, but on the other hand, we're then going to spend that rate money to tell you that.
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Speaker 2: You don't actually own your own land.
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Speaker 3: This is lunacy. It's got to stop. And one of the... You just mentioned it, James, but wasn't it great to hear Mike Newman on Outsiders last week saying that if... if One Nation were to be elected in New South Wales government, they would get that Aboriginal flag off the bridge and replace it with the New South Wales flag, which it used to be, until Dominic Perrottet, the Liberal Premier, completely caved in and whacked the Aboriginal flag up there and took down the flag of New South Wales. Unbelievable.
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Speaker 5: So often it is Liberals who do these things. You know, they... bleat about the culture wars when they refuse to actually take a stand for conservative values, but they're quite happy to give in to the culture wars.
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Speaker 2: Yes, just cave in.
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Speaker 5: when they're trying to appease their opponents, who will never vote for them. Like, why Dominique Perrottet did that... Right... is beyond me. And we've had Scott Morrison similarly... change the words of our national anthem. Again, trying to appease exactly who? People who are never going to vote for you.
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Speaker 3: I sing the old one, by the way. Of course.
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Speaker 5: Always.
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Speaker 2: Always.
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Speaker 5: Always have, always will.
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Speaker 6: But, you know, it is this thing here with the Liberals. They were in power for how long? They didn't do anything about that Aboriginal, Torres Strait Islander thing in the curriculum, so every single subject has to get filtered through that lens, which is, you know, a little bit tough in some subjects. But, you know, it is interesting, though, just to go back to these councils, it's really interesting because what you find here, I don't know what it's like in Melbourne, Rita, but in Sydney, for example, Many of the Western Sydney councils on Australia Day are going to be doing much bigger things for Australia Day. You talk to people like Frank Carbone, who's one of the mayors out in Western Sydney. You talk to Dai Li, who came out of that Western Sydney council system.
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Speaker 2: They are.
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Speaker 6: It's funny, much more pro-Australian, many of these groups and many of these councils, than, you know, the people who live in, say, the eastern suburbs, who have been here for, you know... Many of them have been, you know, historically here for generations and generations. They're all white, Anglo, rich, and they're like, gosh, Australia Day, we can't possibly do that. Maybe we'll get an invitation to Peter Fitzsimons' barbecue this year.
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah. The self-loathing always comes from... the affluent. We've had this shift and the Liberals were so slow to understand that this shift is bigger than Australia, it's throughout the Western world, certainly you can see it in the UK and the US, where the most affluent have gone left and the working class aspirational have gone to the right. This has caused all sorts of issues for the Liberal Party, who sort of saw themselves as the blue bloods, you know, they were the elite. That's not the case anymore. And they're also in denial about what's happened in Australia with One Nation now leading the polls. The latest news poll released this week had One Nation ahead of And the Coalition's got to realise they're not dealing with the Mino Party anymore. They're the big dogs now, One Nation. They may only have four staff, and we should talk about that, actually.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: The craziness of the Prime Minister assigning... staff to each political party, and the ratio that One Nation has is absolutely outrageous when you compare it to what the Greens have. So you've got the Prime Minister who decides how many each... And, of course, he's going to be more generous to the Greens, who give him all their preferences, than One Nation or the other independents who are smaller.
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Speaker 3: But I think there's an interesting kind of inverted rule here. I think the more... parliamentary staff you have, the worse you are as a government. Let's be honest. I mean, Albo's got staff coming.
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Speaker 5: No, no, no, we're not even talking about the thousands of bureaucrats. And they're useless.
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Speaker 3: No, no, I mean the staff, the parliamentary staff. They've got dozens of them in the Labor Party and they're useless to a man and a woman.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they.
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Speaker 5: Constantly complain about, oh, One Nation doesn't have policy detail. Where's their policy detail? Well, assign them the same ratio as you assign the Greens.
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Speaker 2: Of course.
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Speaker 4: Sorry.
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Speaker 5: Have some equality. I thought these people were all about equity, never mind equality.
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Speaker 6: But, I mean, you know, you want to talk policy detail? You want to talk policy detail coming from Labor? These are the guys who are so messed up on the subject of immigration, Tony Burke had to call up the press club and say, oh, sorry, you know we had that reservation for me to come and give a speech later in the week?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we can't make that. We've got a conflict.
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Speaker 6: They actually do not have an immigration policy, and this is with hundreds and hundreds of people all walking around Parliament House with their $ 200, 000 salaries and their little blue pass on their belt line, you know, and 28 years old saying with the title Senior Advisor, which is hilarious if you spend any time in Canberra. But, no, the idea that more staffers... Rowan, you're absolutely right. The idea that staffers equates to, you know, Good work is an onset.
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Speaker 5: Well, we've got tens of thousands working in the Canberra bureaucracy, and you look at the modelling that they put towards the May budget and how outrageously wrong that was. It's evident already. What it's down to the housing market, the way it's crashed the housing market, we're seeing declines we haven't seen in 40 years. Australians are poorer. Millions of Australians are poorer. because of the dud modelling that Treasury put into that budget. And we were told, oh, yeah, rents will rise by maybe $ 2 a week. We're talking about estimates now between 20% and 30% jumps because investors are fleeing the market. So their modelling is just absolutely... Pitiful. And you've really got to wonder whether ideology has taken over.
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Speaker 2: Oh, of course it has. It's all ideology.
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Speaker 5: all the recommendations coming.
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Speaker 3: But look at their modelling on climate change. I mean, what a joke that is. They're modelling on so many things. Anyway, immigration, all sorts of things. We're going to take a short break. We're going to come back. Rita's reality check. And we've got lots of great guests coming up. Don't go away. On Insiders, happy Father's Day.
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Speaker 5: Welcome back. You're watching Outsiders with your hosts, Rowan Scales of Justice Dean and James Double Jeopardy Morrow. And I'm Rita Panahy from the mysteriously named program called The Rita Panahy Show on News 24, Monday to Thursday, 11pm. And I am a woman thoroughly sick and tired of left-leaning ladies making the rest of us look like hysterical, intellectually vacuous banshees. The awful phenomenon that's affluent white female lefties is apparent throughout the West and in the US it has taken a particularly dark turn. We saw that with the murder of Charlie Kirk, where supposedly compassionate lefty women celebrated Charlie's murder. We've seen it with the fangirling of ruthless murderer Luigi Mangione. But we've really seen it take hold in recent months with the sickening behaviour surrounding the Lindsay Clancy case. This is a new low. Here we have women lining up daily to cheer on a self-confessed child killer, a merciless and calculated child killer, cheering her like she's some sort of celebrity. They have raised more than a million dollars for Lindsay Clancy and made her trial into a full-blown sick circus. Doing kissy-face selfies with her defence attorney, they have travelled from around America to showcase their lunacy. These two want to take Lindsay's attorney out for a steak dinner.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 5: Where should we go eat a steak?
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Speaker 8: We want to take you out for a steak dinner, Mr Reddington.
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Speaker 9: We love you so much.
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Speaker 10: I had my.
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Speaker 5: Mental health weaponised against me in family court. I bet you had. You know, despite their obsession with this case, none of these Clancy fangirls say a word about the victims. They go to great lengths to avoid mentioning the names of the three defenceless children Lindsay Clancy murdered. None of these demented women in pink mention the children taken one by one to the basement and strangled with exercise bands. Nothing is said about five-year-old Cora, three-year-old Dawson or eight-month-old Callan. You know, I had more sympathy when they were falsely blaming the husband for Lindsay's crimes. At least then they could argue this was a miscarriage. of justice, that Lindsay was taking the fall for someone else.
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Speaker 3: All right, he did it.
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Speaker 5: Patrick did it.
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Speaker 8: Patrick's the one who did it.
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Speaker 3: Not Lindsay.
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Speaker 5: Patrick did it.
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Speaker 10: But that isn't what a woman would do.
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Speaker 5: They don't strangle.
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Speaker 10: I was actually in therapy today and my therapist and I were talking about it and she said, I said, well, what do they do?
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Speaker 5: She said, well, they poison or I said.
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Speaker 3: Oh, or drown them.
00:30:10
Speaker 10: Like we literally had that conversation today.
00:30:15
Speaker 3: And she looks at me and she goes, he did it.
00:30:18
Speaker 5: That was actress Lisa Rinna, just casually defaming a grieving father, some monstrous killer. When the monster was sitting in court, This next woman doesn't accuse Patrick Clancy of murder. She just blames him for Lindsay's crimes because he's a white man.
00:30:35
Speaker 11: Imagine for a minute, if you will, if Patrick Clancy was a black man. This is why I stand on this hill that being married to a white man is the most dangerous kind of man to be married to.
00:30:53
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, you thought they could inject race and toxic masculinity into a case of a white woman murdering her white children? Oh, they did. They did. And they all pushed the desperate defence theory that Lindsay was in the midst of postpartum psychosis, though despite extensive mental health care, she had never been diagnosed with that. Somehow she heard voices just the once, just the once, during the murders, even though... Everything she did was researched, calculated and deliberate. Here is Nancy Grace on Fox News with Sean Hannity stating the facts.
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Speaker 8: When there is a ligature strangulation, that ligature, such as a stocking, a wire, a cord, an exercise band, is pulled so tightly around the victim's neck that when it's finally removed, the neck is shrunken down, shrunken down like that because of the manual force used to murder those children. Philosophical? You go to a crime scene and find.
00:32:04
Speaker 12: Three dead, strangled, ligature strangulation children. Children, one of them that tried to run from their mother, children that were put face down so they could not see what was happening to them.
00:32:20
Speaker 8: Think about it as an adult being forced your face down in the carpet in the basement and strangled dead one by one by one systematically. Now, why did she do this? She must be crazy. No, here's the harsh truth, Sean. The harsh truth is that she planned this. She researched, she planned a Google Apple map to get her husband out of the home as far away as was feasible to give.
00:32:51
Speaker 2: Her more time.
00:32:52
Speaker 8: She even timed it out. How long would he be gone? Then systematically herded the children into the basement and one by one murdered them.
00:33:01
Speaker 5: Then when he.
00:33:02
Speaker 8: Called in the middle of it, watch out Meryl Streep, because she had the wherewithal to put on an Oscar winning performance that everything was fine. She murdered them.
00:33:16
Speaker 2: Yep.
00:33:17
Speaker 5: In the midst of a psychotic break where voices were directing her to kill her children, she took a phone call, then got back to murdering those defenceless babies. You know, she had earlier Googled, can you treat a sociopath? She knows what she is. Now, this week there was a mistrial in the case. You knew this jury was cooked when multiple women on the jury came to the courthouse dressed in pink like Lindsay's fangirls. Justice in the blue Democrat states is only as good as your jury pool. Thankfully, there was one lone, sane man who withstood the lunacy to ensure a mistrial, to ensure Clancy... did not literally get away with murder. And of course now they're desperate to dox this man and destroy his life. And we can expect this circus again for the retry. It's so terrifying because those are all things.
00:34:21
Speaker 13: That I've... Those are all things that I've said or thought or written at some time.
00:34:30
Speaker 10: The reason we support her is because she's not just a man who annihilated her family because she wanted out of a marriage. She was a woman who was failed by systemic patriarchy. Take a moment, absorb that one.
00:34:48
Speaker 3: Thanks, Rita. Well, now to this week's political news and joining us is Liberal Senator Alex Antic. Alex, great to see you. I presume you're packing... Happy Father's Day, by the way. I presume you're packing your bags to head off to Fiji to join the five leading nations of Baruda and Capovedo and others. Would that be on the itinerary, Alex?
00:35:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, spot on, Rowan. Spot on, as usual. This is actually a Hawaiian shirt, which is good news. So, to get to the airport, I didn't want to telegraph it, so, yeah.
00:35:20
Speaker 3: So, tell us, on a serious note, how much money is this government wasting on... Climate change, giving it or is there any reason to give it? Is the excuse of we've got to give them money so China doesn't give them money, does that hold up? What are your thoughts on the entire climate push within the Albanese government towards our Pacific neighbours?
00:35:43
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, I could go on and on.
00:35:46
Speaker 14: We've only got a short amount of time, but it feels like we've just been talking about this ad nauseum for decades now, which we have. The great conspiracy theory where you get accused of being conspiracy theorists all the time, but the one where humans are controlling the temperature like a thermostat, that's the one that gets overlooked. But parking all of that aside, the tragic part of this whole comedy is the fact that it is costing Australians trillions of dollars. The whole scam is costing us trillions of dollars. Massive, massive wealth transfer that you feel like is almost at the end of its tether, but there are those like... You know, the Japanese soldiers being dragged out of the hills in 1974, you know, on the Philippine Islands or wherever it was, are still clinging to this sort of con job out of climate change. And, you know, in fact, I mean, I was only commenting the other day how even in the rarefied air of the Canberra bubble, the building in Canberra, there's so much less talk and hysteria coming from the other side of the chamber, actually coming from the building as a whole, about climate, so-called climate change.
00:36:48
Speaker 1: It feels like it's evaporated.
00:36:50
Speaker 14: And, of course, you know, my belief is one of the key driving reasons for that is the push towards AI data centres, which, of course, require huge amounts of energy.
00:36:56
Speaker 1: So.
00:36:57
Speaker 14: You know, the machine has clearly made a decision that this is done, but not in the halls of the ministerial halls in Canberra. I can tell you there's still the opportunity there to spend... I think it was $ 20 million was the number that was bandied around on this VG jaunt. I mean, you know, look, if it wasn't so tragic, given the manner in which Aussies are struggling at the moment, it would be laughable. And yet the parade continues in some quarters of... of the halls of Parliament in Canberra.
00:37:24
Speaker 1: It's ludicrous.
00:37:25
Speaker 14: I mean, it's always been ludicrous, but now to be continuing with the lunacy is even more ludicrous.
00:37:29
Speaker 3: James?
00:37:30
Speaker 6: Hey, Alex, I want to ask about another topic that's been in the news a lot lately, immigration. You know, last week we had a lot of confusion around One Nation's target after David Farley gave that interview on Insiders. The Labor Party is completely at sixes and sevens because they don't know what they're doing. They had to cancel that speech with Tony Burke. Isn't there a big opportunity here for the Liberals to actually put some real numbers on things more than just, oh, well, it's going.
00:37:56
Speaker 2: To be tied to housing?
00:37:57
Speaker 6: Because it feels like there's an opportunity here for the Liberals to really regain a bit of the control of that debate.
00:38:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I mean, there is. It's probably the.
00:38:07
Speaker 14: If it's not the number one issue floating around in the minds of Australians, other than, you know, the general cost of everything and the difficulties economically, it's certainly the second one, and they're a little bit intertwined.
00:38:17
Speaker 1: So, look, I think it is... Look, this is pretty normal.
00:38:20
Speaker 14: I think you'd see the policy position develop. I was listening to the commentary before about the lack of, you know, staffing given to One Nation, and Rita's absolutely right about that.
00:38:29
Speaker 1: I mean, these.
00:38:31
Speaker 14: You know, there is rules for thee and rules for me when it comes to the way in which Canberra is done.
00:38:35
Speaker 1: We see that all the time.
00:38:36
Speaker 14: We heard Labor bleating about, you know, a couple of guillotine motions during the Morrison government time, and, yeah, they do it every week, and I suspect they're probably going to do it again this week just to force through laws. So you get a divergence of build-up off the track slightly. But to the issue of immigration, look, that policy is going to develop over the next.
00:38:54
Speaker 2: Period, I suspect.
00:38:54
Speaker 14: Are we going to get a number? And Angus is building a pretty strong case for that.
00:38:59
Speaker 12: Rita?
00:39:00
Speaker 5: Well, are we going to get a number shortly? Because I think that's the critical point. What is the number? Because you can have all these different philosophies and ideological positions, but at the end of the day, you need a number.
00:39:15
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:39:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed.
00:39:16
Speaker 14: And look, I'm sure we will at some point soon. I'm just not privy to those conversations.
00:39:21
Speaker 1: But I agree.
00:39:21
Speaker 14: I mean, I think it's important. And look, you know, I mean, at the end of the day, it is a driver of a heap of factors. I know it's complicated, but at the end of the day, I don't think Aussies were at any point ever taken to an election. The issue of immigration was never really taken to an election. And yet we see how much pushback there is against it. I mean, I agree the numbers too high. I don't know what the number is myself, but I agree some more detail would be helpful and I'm sure it's coming.
00:39:50
Speaker 3: Alex, I wanted to ask you about your own trials and tribulations within the South Australian Liberal Party. You are the president and there's a push from, I guess, the woke, the bedwet, as I would call them.
00:40:02
Speaker 2: To remove you.
00:40:02
Speaker 3: Is this true? Is this what's going on? What's happening?
00:40:05
Speaker 14: Well, I've nominated for that position coming up. I've nominated our AGM in a couple of weeks for the... For the job that, you know, I think it'd be safe to say that, you know, there's not a lot of glory that comes out of that job, but a pretty important one given where we're up to. You know, we've just come out of a state election cycle where we've had five members of the lower house elected and a handful in the upper house. It's sink or swim for the division in South Australia. And I have had the view for a long period of time that one of the things that doesn't happen enough is the parliamentary party listening to the membership. Every time I speak to the members, they're on top of the sorts of things that you're all.
00:40:39
Speaker 1: Saying on this show. A lot of them are watchers of this show, I might say.
00:40:42
Speaker 2: I should hope so too.
00:40:44
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:40:45
Speaker 14: And there's a lot of wisdom and wealth of knowledge in that group, which is just simply being, you know, I think, let through to the keeper at the moment.
00:40:53
Speaker 1: So my pitch is to return some.
00:40:55
Speaker 14: Of that power structure to the membership, because I think, honestly, we saw this with net zero, the push to remove net zero from the federal policy platform started with the membership in South Australia, and it took fire across the country. And also, we've seen that, I mean, they've been consistently right about things like the voice and You know, immigration is another one. They're very, very good with their judgement, and I think it's overlooked for too long. And I think there's a lot we can do. We've got to do something in South Australia, across the country as well, but it's a real sink or swim moment here.
00:41:26
Speaker 1: And I think I can add to that.
00:41:29
Speaker 10: James?
00:41:30
Speaker 6: Alex, just on that, I mean, you know, the party, there's been a lot of reports about divisions within the party, and I just wondered if you had any comment about that piece that was in The Nine Papers a few weeks ago that suggested that You were involved with some sort of caper to get people like Alexander Downer and even Nicole Flint out of the party. I mean, this sort of thing doesn't sound like it's very conducive to a unified party contesting elections.
00:42:01
Speaker 15: Whoops.
00:42:02
Speaker 14: Well, James, this sounds like a set-up, but that actually did break up a little bit there, and so I don't recall bits and pieces.
00:42:09
Speaker 1: Of that question, I'm sorry to say. But, look, I don't know.
00:42:12
Speaker 14: Look, I think there are always lines drawn ideologically, but the party as a general rule, the numbers now in the parliamentary party here in South Australia are, are smaller than they've ever been. So we've got a lot of work to do in terms of building that back. But we've also got, I think, you know, I think probably an opportunity now to start gathering around those who are still left.
00:42:38
Speaker 6: Just because it broke up there, just to be clear, there was a story that you and your numbers man, as it was described, were involved with a scheme to get Alexander Downer and Nicole Flint kicked out of the party. Now, these are hardly Malcolm Turnbull-type characters. Is that conducive to unity?
00:42:57
Speaker 1: No, look, and I don't think there's really.
00:42:58
Speaker 14: I don't think that's quite accurate, certainly not from where I sit.
00:43:03
Speaker 1: I mean, look, the difficulty is there are often.
00:43:05
Speaker 14: You know, conversations made by people that, you know, I think are taken out of context, and that's where I'd put that one.
00:43:12
Speaker 3: And just very quickly before we go, Alex, these Bondi ASIO warnings, which apparently people were told..... the police were told to go after the far-right rather than Islamists. What did you make of that story, very quickly?
00:43:25
Speaker 14: Yeah, look, I've been on this for a while. Look, no criticism of the director himself. I think he does a good job. But once again, this highlights the issue of our departments all over the country getting sidetracked by issues when the main prize is in front of us. In fact, ASIO, as I pointed out during estimates a couple of years ago, still have diversity and equity staff, for which I don't quite understand that the whole of the effort should be focused on the task at hand.
00:43:49
Speaker 1: And that's what I'd like to see.
00:43:52
Speaker 3: Alexander, Senator in South Australia there, thank you so much for coming on and we'll speak again very soon. Coming up after the break, emissions impossible in a tick. Yes, emissions impossible and it is our mission and we do accept it to every week. Look at the madness of net zero and so much madness out there. What was fascinating, James and Rita, was this story about the Beetaloo Basin, which we've talked about before, how the Greens are desperate to stop any activity there, and yet the local Indigenous families and gangs, crews, whatever, want the work.
00:44:27
Speaker 2: Yeah. They want the work.
00:44:29
Speaker 3: They want to get busy.
00:44:30
Speaker 6: There's a great piece by Chris Ullman, you know, who's a great friend of this program, in The Australian this weekend, and looking at it, it's basically a tale of two cities, a tale of two women, and he's talking about, Larissa Waters, the head of the Greens, and this female Indigenous activist in the Beedaloo Basin who desperately wants the project to go ahead because, you know, they see it as jobs, prosperity, energy, money coming into their communities, economic integration into greater Australia, which is, of course, you know, what all of these outback communities so desperately need to become part of the Australian economic system and not just you know, sitting disintegrated and, you know, with all the dysfunction and everything that comes from that, and yet the Greens.
00:45:17
Speaker 2: Say, no, no, no, no, no, they call it a carbon bomb. That's what they're calling it.
00:45:21
Speaker 5: Carbon bomb?
00:45:22
Speaker 2: A carbon bomb.
00:45:23
Speaker 16: I like that.
00:45:23
Speaker 5: That sounds fun. It sounds like.
00:45:24
Speaker 2: It sounds like something you'd order at the bar. Hey, can I have two carbon bombs?
00:45:27
Speaker 5: That sounds like a cocktail. But this is the thing with the green lobby. It's all about catastrophising. It's always... The world is ending these doomsday predictions. They've been running them for decades. And each time they don't come about, they just memory hole that. But there's a new technique now. These climate scientists are taking credit for the fact that we haven't had the... the catastrophe before us that the world hasn't literally ended. Now they're basically saying, well, it's because, you know, you completely reimagined your economies and energy systems to follow our modelling that we're not all dead.
00:46:05
Speaker 2: This is such a... Thank you, guys.
00:46:07
Speaker 6: This is the entire logical fallacy of the entire... climate deal, right? It is non-falsifiable. Once you make something so that, you know, you can't prove, you know, they say, well, prove that we didn't save the world.
00:46:20
Speaker 2: Oh, how do I do that? Well, you see, so we did.
00:46:22
Speaker 6: I mean, that's how you know that this is a cult and not science. They say, you know, oh, in this house we believe in science and all that, or the science, as they always portentously call it. But this is how you know that you're being conned.
00:46:36
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. And also I would just like to point out that the Antarctic Station has set a new all-time cold record. So it's getting colder in the Antarctic. It's hilarious. Electroverse always point out these sorts of things. Belgrano 2, it's called, posted a daily high of minus 35.2 degrees.
00:46:56
Speaker 5: Daily high or daily low?
00:46:58
Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
00:46:59
Speaker 5: It's very confusing when you're talking about.
00:47:01
Speaker 3: Minus 35, the Antarctic Station's lowest maximum temperature in records dating back to 1956. So that's pretty good fun. But let's also talk about Chris Afuli and AI. So there's a lot of push on, quite rightly, to try and get AI for Australia.
00:47:17
Speaker 17: Absolutely.
00:47:18
Speaker 3: And, of course, the entire AI infrastructure flies right in the face of the entire climate change rort. So, James, there's a tension here. Chris Afuli is.
00:47:29
Speaker 2: Looking into it.
00:47:29
Speaker 6: Chris Afuli, good on David Chris Afuli, the Premier of Queensland. I think he's doing a very good job on a lot of this stuff. He has basically said that we don't want to follow or we're not going to follow the federal government, the Albanese mandate, that if you're going to build a data center in Queensland, you have to provide your own renewable power. He has quite rightly said this is a total handbrake on growth and industry.
00:47:52
Speaker 2: Now, you know, we have the whole.
00:47:53
Speaker 6: Debate about data centers and there's a big debate around that. But, you know, the point is, is he's standing up to the federal government, to the Albanese government, saying, well, no, you're not going to tell us how we run our state.
00:48:04
Speaker 2: Queensland.
00:48:05
Speaker 6: is, I think, going to be the last big engine of the Australian economy, because it's not happening in New South Wales, where it should be. We've only got 1% growth here. It's not happening in Victoria, where even if Jess gets in, it's going to take years to clean up the mess, unfortunately, there of debt and everything else. So it's going to have to be Queensland.
00:48:24
Speaker 3: Let's have a look at Christopher Lee, just quickly.
00:48:26
Speaker 1: Let's have a look.
00:48:28
Speaker 15: A series of really good meetings and there's no doubt that we're on the radar. This mission is about making sure that we go from in the pack to on top of the pack and our focus is some of the changes we've made that puts us in the box seat to drive value in that critical mineral space.
00:48:45
Speaker 5: And Queensland is in the box seat. They are going to possibly become the AI superpower in Australia and the enormous growth and money that is going into that. And he's met with the top AI companies in the world to really put Queensland at the forefront and say, you're not going to have to deal with all the crazy green tape you will encounter in Victoria and New South Wales and everywhere else. So it's very clever because he can see where the growth is and he's going to make sure his state is the beneficiary of that. And I wish we had a premier like that in Victoria and I'm sure you wish you had one in New South Wales because this is happening. I know there's a lot of people who are not happy about these AI centres, the growth of them, the size of them. But it's happening. This is bigger than Australia. It is happening. And you either find a way to make sure the community benefits from this or you get left behind.
00:49:45
Speaker 3: So, Rita, I'm surprised you didn't mention that Christopher Fooley also met up with your... Your hero there, J.D.
00:49:51
Speaker 2: Vance. Oh, yeah. Well, J.D.
00:49:53
Speaker 5: Vance understands the growth of AI. Well, he's the next president of the United States.
00:49:58
Speaker 2: After Rubio. He's the one after Rubio.
00:50:00
Speaker 10: Well, maybe.
00:50:00
Speaker 5: Well, you know what? He's going to be a future president.
00:50:02
Speaker 1: He is further down the track.
00:50:04
Speaker 2: Ah, Rita's changed.
00:50:05
Speaker 3: No.
00:50:05
Speaker 2: You notice the change? No, no, no.
00:50:07
Speaker 3: You notice the change?
00:50:08
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no. Because I am a big fan of Marco Rubio.
00:50:13
Speaker 3: Yes, he's going to be the next president. I haven't tried to.
00:50:15
Speaker 5: Pit these two against each other. I'm like President Trump, where... It's like, why can't they just run together? Because they both work so well together. But, no, J.D. Vance is still the frontrunner.
00:50:25
Speaker 3: No, no, definitely not.
00:50:27
Speaker 5: Definitely is.
00:50:28
Speaker 2: You know what?
00:50:28
Speaker 5: Let's talk about that quickly. Ron DeSantis, we forgot about him, but he is about to end his tenure as Governor of Florida. What he's been able to achieve in that state... astonishing, just about every meaningful metric, they are absolutely thriving. And he, we forgot that he came up against Trump and obviously, you know, lost. But he is a real candidate and they would be very lucky to have someone like that. as their Republican candidate too. So you look at the Republican side, they have just got a wealth of riches. And then you look over at the Democrats and they've got the.
00:51:05
Speaker 2: Kamala! Joy!
00:51:07
Speaker 18: AOC!
00:51:07
Speaker 5: They've got these socialist Democrats who are absolutely nuts. They're sort of leading the charge. You've got Kamala, who's still in the polling, the most popular to run again. So it's a mess over there.
00:51:21
Speaker 3: Well, it's good to see Chris Afuli there with J.D. Vance and Chris Afuli doing a great job to push Australia, at least one state of Australia, into the future, future prosperity. We're going to take a short break. When we come back, I'm going to have a couple of words to say about immigration in a tick. Hello, you're watching Outsiders with Rita Panahi, with James Morrow and myself, Rowan Dean. Should we ban the burqa in Australia? May sound like a ridiculous question now, but in all likelihood it will be a major political question within the foreseeable future. The reason I say this is because Australian politics usually follows Britain, America and European politics with a lag time of anywhere between five and ten years. 2016 saw the popular... uprisings against the political elites. There was Brexit in the UK. There was Trump, the original Trump, in the United States. But it wasn't until 2023 that we had our own popular revolt with the voice referendum, which, of course, the elites still refuse to accept the result of and are doing their best to ignore and even overturn. We still have welcome to countries at the drop of a hat. We have treaties and we have the ridiculous voice parliament in Victoria. And we learned this week that even Bondi icebergs is now subject to native title nonsense. Thanks, Paul Keating. Great job, mate. But I digress. In America and across Europe and Great Britain, we are currently seeing that, surprise, surprise, a dramatic increase in immigration, both legal and illegal, from Middle Eastern and North African countries that are predominantly Muslim, puts a strain on what our supine leaders like to call social cohesion. In Spain last week, hundreds of thousands, some say millions, of Spaniards have been marching in protest at what is happening in the province of Cueta, which I spoke about on my show on Friday night. That is an extreme situation, but for that very reason, the response to it has been very dramatic. But elsewhere across Europe, the true nature of multiculturalism is being exposed, as in country after country, they wrestle with the inevitable results of high levels of immigration without... a clear demand for assimilation or integration. The flaw in the multicultural ideology of tolerance of all cultures is the conundrum. What if one of those cultures doesn't tolerate the others? Should we still tolerate their right to be intolerant? This paradox, this Gordian knot, can sit unanswered so long as that particular intolerant culture is reasonably insignificant amongst the larger population, i.e. in a minority. But once that intolerant culture starts to gain a greater say in public affairs or even reach a majority, the paradox is complete. The multicultural idea of tolerance of all defeats itself. Now, this may all sound very academic, which it is in Australia, but for how long? In Europe, where social cohesion has already collapsed or is collapsing in many communities, this conundrum is playing out in the political sphere. And the question across much of Europe is, can you enforce tolerance even amongst the intolerant? The Royal Commission into Anti-Semitism and Social Cohesion is, as I've said repeatedly, a Clayton's commission, a sham. Similarly, I have little hope of it having anything of any value to say about social cohesion other than mouthing left-wing platitudes. But across Europe, social cohesion is being tackled head-on in the numerous debates and laws surrounding the niqab, the hijab and the burqa. Now, as Rita has chastised me in the past, these are three distinct items of clothing. The hijab is a headscarf that covers the hair, ears and neck and often the shoulders or upper chest. The face remains fully visible. The niqab is a face veil that covers the lower face, the nose, mouth and cheeks, while leaving the eyes visible through an opening. It is worn with a hijab that then covers the hair and neck and typically with an outer garment that covers the body. And the burqa, made famous in Australia by Pauline Hanson, is the most concealing of those garments. The burqa is usually a single full-bodied covering from head to toe. The entire face, including the eyes, is hidden behind a mesh screen or grill so the wearer can see out, but others cannot even see the wearer's eyes. The argument against these garments, particularly the burqa, is self-evident. and involves security as well as social cohesion. Arguably, these items are a personal choice. But in many instances, this claim is hard, hard to justify. The counter argument is that they are an enforced signal that says of the wearer, I have no desire to assimilate into Western culture. In 2010, France became the first European nation to ban the Islamic niqab. That's the full face veil. with an overwhelming majority of MPs backing the bill. As The Spectator details, quote, Belgium was then the first to follow suit, introducing a ban in 2011, and Austria, Bulgaria, Denmark, Luxembourg, Switzerland and Portugal have done likewise in the years since. It's a lot of European countries. The magazine continues, Holland forbids full face coverings in hospitals, educational and public institutions and on public transport. In Italy, Giorgio Maloney's government has tabled a draft bill to prohibit full-face Islamic coverings in public spaces, but it has not yet passed into law. Portugal introduced its ban last month with fines for those who flout the law. Portugal's President Antonio José Seguro maintains the face must be considered a central element of human identity and communication. Interestingly, Muslim-majority countries such as Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan and Tajikistan also ban the full-face covering burqas, both on security grounds as well as, in some cases, on cultural grounds. The burqa, by the way, is not a religious requirement. It is a cultural one. But Marine Le Pen, sometimes compared with her own Pauline Hanson in France, who is now back in the running for next year's French presidential elections, which she could win, has now gone much further, confirming last week on X that if she does win, she will hold a referendum against Islamist ideologies, including banning the hijab. That's just the headscarf in public spaces. An opinion poll conducted at the start of the week found that 60% of respondents supported that ban or that idea. As an article in The Spectator this week points out, this is clearly a popular move as opposed to a populist one. Le Pen's announcement has had the predictable result of rallying the lefty feminists who seem ignorant of the fact that women risk their lives in places like Iran to take the Hegeo.
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Speaker 17: Off.
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Speaker 3: Lefty so-called feminists are rushing to put it on. MUSIC Not exactly the brightest bright young things. But anyway, in the UK, Kemi Badenoch, the increasingly impressive as well as increasingly popular Tory leader, who is now ahead of Nigel Farage in some polls, maintains she will not talk to her constituents if she cannot see their faces, i.e. if they are wearing a burqa, a niqab or a balaclava. But she is sceptical of France's kneecap ban, saying France has a ban and they have worse problems than we do in this country on integration. They have Sharia courts. They have things like first cousin marriage. There's a whole heap of stuff, says Kemi Badenoch, that is far more insidious and that breeds more problems. That's Kemi Badenoch. The obvious question is what has the 2010 French ban achieved? And the answer is mixed. In terms of symbolism, quite a lot. It defined the public square as a space of uncovered faces and made that definition stick. But in terms of genuine integration, not a great deal. Many women who before covered themselves up now simply wear the headscarf, which may be why the headscarf has now become the next target, with even the former French socialist Prime Minister Manuel Valls saying France needs to take a firmer stance because the headscarf is being worn as a political banner against the Republic, i.e. against social cohesion. Here in Australia, we are in the middle of what I believe to be a sham Royal Commission into social cohesion, but it is already obvious that there will be no serious analysis or recommendations around the single greatest threat to social cohesion, the ideology of multiculturalism. Multiculturalism's greatest flaw is that it does not demand assimilation and integration of migrants from incompatible cultures. The philosopher Gad Saad refers to this as suicidal empathy in his book of the same name.
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Speaker 18: Immigrants might be equal under the law, but they're not equally likely to assimilate because they bring a set of cultural and religious values that may not.
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Speaker 19: Be consistent with those of the host society. To argue that should be obvious to a three-day-old pigeon, but yet in the suicidally empathetic West, that becomes a very controversial and bigoted point of view.
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Speaker 3: You can watch that full interview on YouTube.
01:02:08
Speaker 2: It's great.
01:02:08
Speaker 3: There has been, as far as I'm aware, no serious discussion about how five decades of what Gad would call Australian suicidal empathy towards migrants may have resulted in the Bondi massacre. And as far as I'm aware, there has been no genuine attempt to seriously persuade any of those who have come here to abandon the worst practices or beliefs endemic in the lands they hail from. On the contrary, Labor governments in particular have preached tolerance without limits, eagerly participating in cultural and religious rituals with no concern for anything other than garnering a few more votes. Who can forget Albo and Tony Burke being heckled at a Sydney mosque? And who can forget how disgracefully, disgracefully on the day of the Bondi terror attack, Anthony Albanese couldn't even bring himself to mention radical Islam.
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Speaker 4: We take Asia's advice very seriously. We work closely with them. We receive regular updates as well. Director-General of Asia has warned about a range of threats, be it anti-Semitism, the rise of right-wing extremist groups as well, and we continue to work closely with our security agencies.
01:03:45
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
01:03:45
Speaker 3: By refusing to challenge the holy ritz of multiculturalism, the Royal Commission will, I suspect, head down all of Labor's favourite rabbit holes. to find its conclusions. We can expect a lot of leftist authoritarian nonsense about banning misinformation, so-called hate speech online, and woke rubbish about the amazing benefits of multiculturalism, which must be nurtured. There may, may be a half-hearted attempt to curtail hate speech by the worst radicalised Islamic clerics, but don't hold your breath. But the actions of this Labor government over the past four years cannot be swept away by whatever weak words the Royal Commission comes out with. Penny Wong, Tony Burke, Anthony Albanese, Ed Husic and the rest of them have shown by their actions, from recognising Palestine to those who marched across the bridge to demonising Israel, that they have no interest in challenging that particular strain of intolerance. Australia has the opportunity to learn from the mistakes of Europe but it is unlikely that we intend to. Bans on hijabs, niqabs and burqas, apart from addressing the obvious security concerns, are above all social symbols, a signal from the mainstream society that outward displays of a determination to not assimilate and to not integrate will not be tolerated. It's almost like a double negative. We will not tolerate your symbols of intolerance. Personally, I think symbols matter and I think the burqa, in essence, undermines any concept of assimilation into the democratic values of Australia and therefore, in my opinion, undermines the very idea of social cohesion. If we cannot get immigrants to agree to show us their women's faces, what hope have we of instilling the values of an open, democratic, free society? And those values include treating women as equal members of the community, tolerating homosexuality and not tolerating Jew hatred. Personally, I would have thought it's a pretty good test as to whether or not you intend to assimilate into Australian society and adopt Australian values. Are you prepared for your womenfolk to show their faces in public? Ultimately, this is what most common sense people deep down believe. Intolerance should not be tolerated. The trouble is we Aussies are a tolerant lot, so we do tolerate it. And that is something that those who despise us the most and despise our lack of ideological or religious fervour take great comfort in and take maximum advantage of. But then you get a tragedy like the Bondi massacre predicted by many, including security bureaucrats and Australian Jews, and the public are rightly outraged, which is why One Nation's popularity has soared because Pauline Hanson has shown she understands we cannot tolerate intolerance. Now, there's anger in Victoria, with One Nation taking aim at Melbourne..... with One Nation taking aim at Melbourne University for not flying the Australian flag on campus, but instead flying the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander... I can't believe these people. This was on National Flag Day, which was earlier this week, and Colleen Harkin was the one who raised this on social media.
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Speaker 2: Have a look.
01:07:24
Speaker 16: Here I am standing at Melbourne University and standing behind me is two flagpoles. Not one Australian flagpole, we have two. And only the Aboriginal and the Torres Strait Islanders flags. But this is what we talk about when we say this is divisive. There's no Australian flag here. It's dividing us by ethnicity and heritage. We are one nation. We are one country. We stand under one flag.
01:07:46
Speaker 3: And I'm pleased to say Colleen joins us now. Colleen, thanks for coming on the show. Great to have you here. So tell us about this. Melbourne University won't fly the Aussie flag.
01:07:57
Speaker 16: No, and apparently they have a policy about flags. We went out there to do a few other sort of short social media skits and literally came across it.
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Speaker 1: It was quite interesting.
01:08:08
Speaker 16: There was a whole range of students standing around and I literally couldn't believe it. I sort of said to the guys I was with, like, where's the Australian flag? There's only an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander flag. And just, like, honestly, the audacity to actually do that in a place that's supposed to be..... is taxpayer-funded, you know, effectively a place of learning. You know, the sandstone halls of Melbourne University and our history, all that kind of stuff, and just the blatant arrogance of just saying, we're not going to fly it.
01:08:36
Speaker 3: Rita?
01:08:38
Speaker 5: It's not isolated, though. We see this in academia. We see it in the education system from really preschool to universities. Just talk a little bit about that culture, because the left told us they marched through the institutions would start with education and they weren't lying about that.
01:08:56
Speaker 1: No, most definitely.
01:08:57
Speaker 16: And it starts at childcare centres. So we hear stories of children walking into a childcare centre, touching the ground and saying, always was, always will be. Children who do like an acknowledgement to country before they have their lunch like it's replaced a prayer. I spoke to one fellow from Melbourne Uni the other day who told me he does four Acknowledgement to Countries every time he's at university.
01:09:21
Speaker 1: And it's just sort of.
01:09:23
Speaker 16: Yeah, like every class he goes into, he does another one. You know, it has taken over and it has just sort of quietly immersed itself in our daily life where people are doing it multiple times. The worst part about this is it's happening with children who are being, you know, it's being embedded into their day and they don't know. Like a five or a ten-year-old has no understanding of Australian history yet.
01:09:46
Speaker 1: And they believe this is normal.
01:09:47
Speaker 16: You know, young children believe it's normal to do an acknowledgement to country before they have lunch.
01:09:51
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
01:09:53
Speaker 2: James.
01:09:53
Speaker 6: Whatever happened to saying grace? But seriously, though, it does seem like there's an almost Soviet attempt to rewrite almost everything in the culture. There was a story today in the Sunday Telegraph, or this weekend in the Telegraph, about Lycee Condorcet, which is a French private school here in Sydney, and they've decided no more Father's Day. They're going to have a unified parents and caregivers and loved ones day. Again, it's just kicking all the foundations out from underneath our culture.
01:10:27
Speaker 16: Well, there's a document called Belonging, Becoming and Being, and it's a government document that regulates the childcare and kindergarten industry. It uses the terms for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders and reconciliation and climate action and all those sorts of things, like literally hundreds of times. It does not use the word parent, mother or father, not once. So that's the document that regulates the industry and it will not use the language of mother and father.
01:10:54
Speaker 5: Oh, no, I had someone reach out to me whose child at university used the term mother, and the lecturer charted her for that and said that is not an inclusive and it's a gendered term, so to pick her words more carefully. Now, I want to play you another little video that came to my attention this week, again from Melbourne University, and listen to how this student talks about Robert Menzies.
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Speaker 7: Do you know Unimelb has a building dedicated to a Nazi sympathiser? This is the Menzies Institute. Robert Menzies was the founder of the Liberal Party, a bigot, a right-winger, and in the 1930s he said, quote, I have a great admiration for the Nazi organisation of Germany. Our university has a whole space dedicated to glorifying this right-wing bigot. We at Socialist Action Free Palestine want to make our campus a fascist-free zone.
01:11:46
Speaker 5: Socialist Action Free Palestine. Their names are getting more ridiculous. But tell me about the pressure to conform or at the very least self-censor at these universities because you've got not just elements of the student population but most of the academics ideologically captured. It must be very confronting for students who are not far-left lunatics.
01:12:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:12:12
Speaker 16: And look, unfortunately, I can tell you that it's not just universities. Students in year 12 will tell you that they write in order to pass the paper. They don't write what they really think because it's not worth taking the risk at that stage in your life and actually seeing what you think. And, you know, our universities are meant to be places for contested ideas, discuss, learn history.
01:12:35
Speaker 3: Debate it.
01:12:36
Speaker 16: You know, everybody knows no country's history is perfect, but this expectation that somehow Australia should have had a perfect past and that somehow we're the worst country in the world, you know, it has permeated into the psychology of, unfortunately, quite a percentage of students. And that's how we see those protests the other week and people throwing out language that they don't really understand.
01:12:58
Speaker 1: It's just... You know, to be called.
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Speaker 16: A racist now, it is, you know, maybe one of the worst things that a person can be called. I think it's losing its, you know, charter because people use it so often, like, to be called... But to call Menzies a bigot, really, I think he needs to kind of learn a bit more of his history. So this is kind of like the... And it is indoctrination, the idea that these students have not properly studied it, they haven't properly considered it, The critical thinking is non-existent and it just becomes slogans that they think will shut things down. And we see it with shutting down... you know, pulling down statues. You know, it's this idea that we don't look at history, study it and learn what happened in the context of its time. What they want to do is erase it. And that's not helpful, actually helpful to anybody.
01:13:46
Speaker 3: And just very quickly, Colleen, you're running for One Nation in the state... election later in the year. Just very quickly, we've only got 15 seconds left, but what can One Nation do? Would you look at defunding some of these centres of education? 100%.
01:13:59
Speaker 16: One Nation will fix the education problem. We will remove the ideology out of the curriculum.
01:14:05
Speaker 5: We will defund.
01:14:06
Speaker 16: We won't allow those third-party providers to get into the schools.
01:14:09
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's high priority.
01:14:11
Speaker 2: Fantastic.
01:14:11
Speaker 3: Colleen Harkin, thanks so much for coming on, Outsiders. We'll speak again soon.
01:14:16
Speaker 2: Now then.
01:14:18
Speaker 3: We're going to take a short break. But then we've got lots of Wallys, we've got celebrities, we've.
01:14:23
Speaker 2: Got all sorts of things.
01:14:23
Speaker 3: It's Father's Day. We're going to have some fun in a tick.
01:14:34
Speaker 6: Hello, you're watching Outsiders with your hosts, Rowan Dean, Rita Panahy, and myself, James Morrow. And, you know, here on Truth Bomb, one of the things we love to do is test the propositions the left uses to try to scare the Australian people into giving up their freedoms. Now, one of the key propositions the left loves to make is that democracy is in danger. And the last thing we want to do, they always say, is become like, oh, no, Donald Trump's America. This is a theme that Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has been hitting for years. Back in 2022, he claimed that Australian democracy was under threat.
01:15:17
Speaker 2: And that's why everyone needed to support democracy. Hmm.
01:15:22
Speaker 6: OK, interesting logic there. But, anyway, let's check in right now on the state of Australian democracy and Australia's youngest senator, WA Labor Senator Charlotte Walker.
01:15:36
Speaker 11: So, One Nation says that they're the gayest party in Australia.
01:15:39
Speaker 16: They don't produce actual policy.
01:15:42
Speaker 3: They just spend their time making cartoons.
01:15:44
Speaker 11: I don't even know who the leader of the Liberal Party is anymore.
01:15:47
Speaker 5: Charlotte Walker, Senator for Labor.
01:15:52
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is I wouldn't go to Anchor Day McDonald's.
01:15:57
Speaker 5: And David Pocock was just, like, in a river.
01:16:00
Speaker 2: With a boulder.
01:16:03
Speaker 6: Ah, yes, the 125-year-long experiment in Australian Federation and democracy has been reduced to... A child senator eating like a slob in her car and muttering about One Nation in the passenger seat. And by the way, to be fair, this is not necessarily just a labor problem. This week, the Queensland LNP government desperately tried to scrub this video of their MPs from the Internet, showing them, well, making fools of themselves.
01:16:31
Speaker 20: Tumble out of bed and stumble in the kitchen pour myself a cup of ambition jump.
01:16:37
Speaker 21: In the shower and the blood starts.
01:16:38
Speaker 4: Pumping try and yawn and stretch and come to life now almost read the traffic starts jumping with folks like me on the job.
01:16:46
Speaker 11: From nine to five working nine to five what a way to make a living barely.
01:16:52
Speaker 8: Getting by it's all taken and no giving Poor Dolly.
01:16:58
Speaker 2: Can't we just let her rest in peace?
01:17:00
Speaker 6: Honestly, the Great Woman deserves a lot better than that.
01:17:04
Speaker 2: But seriously, though, what do we expect?
01:17:06
Speaker 6: Because if you want to know why there is so much distrust in what was the two-party political system and why One Nation is surging in the manner it is, consider that, frankly, for both Labor and the coalition, this sort of dumbing down of debate, it's a feature, not a bug. Neither side of them really profits from people talking about anything more serious. Something we see reflected in the political class's drive to make discussing the real problems in Australia, problems which have been created, incubated, hatched and nurtured by a political, professional, managerial class that profits from these problems, almost impossible. This week, Attorney-General Michelle Rowland, who failed up into the portfolio from communications minister, made this shocking attempt to link One Nation to neo-Nazis.
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Speaker 22: Do you think One Nation is dangerous?
01:18:06
Speaker 20: I think One Nation is a party that does not represent mainstream Australia.
01:18:11
Speaker 1: Is it dangerous?
01:18:13
Speaker 20: I think some of One Nation's elements, particularly where they have been recruiting or otherwise giving a platform to extremist views, including neo-Nazi.
01:18:23
Speaker 5: Views, that is dangerous.
01:18:24
Speaker 20: I think it is also dangerous at a time when social cohesion has never been more important to trade on the politics of division.
01:18:32
Speaker 6: The politics of division coming from labor. That's a bit rich. Now, sure, she said there was a slur, and if you saw our interview here on Outsiders with Mike Newman here last week, well, the idea that One Nation is a bunch of wild-eyed nutters is not exactly accurate. But what makes all this more sinister is that this thing that she's just put out there and what other people are doing opens the door to taking legal sanction against One Nation in the same way right-wing parties have been attacked by lawfare in Europe and elsewhere. And this contempt for debate was on full display as well in the Senate estimates this week when officials from the Defense Department, i.e., the ones who are in charge of using force, if need be, to defend our way of life, including our free speech, tried to pull this little number. In a discussion about defense land sales, including Victoria Barracks in Sydney, well, have a look at what this woman tried to pull.
01:19:35
Speaker 7: In closing, I would note.
01:19:36
Speaker 17: For the record that the defence witnesses appearing before the committee today are pleased to take your questions, but they do not consent to the reposting of our evidence to social media sites or the reproduction of our likenesses for the purposes outside the framework of the Parliament and the transparent public proceedings of this committee.
01:19:54
Speaker 3: Thank you.
01:19:55
Speaker 2: It's a public hearing, lady. Seriously.
01:19:58
Speaker 6: And I have to say, I must give credit where credit is due. Green Senator David Shoebridge gave it right back.
01:20:06
Speaker 21: This is evidence given in an open public hearing. And to get that suggestion from a senior defence official that myself and others are not entitled to share the evidence that's given from public officials paid for by the Australian public on social media or on other platforms is an extraordinary proposal.
01:20:35
Speaker 6: Look, even a broken clock is right once a day, and he was right to push back on those bureaucrats, or maybe even twice a day, those bureaucrats not wanting to be held accountable for their own words in a public hearing, a public hearing in the Senate. But indeed, everywhere you look now, the bureaucrat class, the political class, the managerial class is trying to protect itself from scrutiny. This week, the great Aidan Morrison, who was on this set just last week talking about energy policy, alerted me to this. The Climate Change Authority last month published this document entitled Misinformation, a Climate Policy Risk. which said that in the context of a climate and energy debate, you could be peddling misinformation if you talk about cost of living, energy policy, jobs, regional impacts, biodiversity, or whether Australian actions matters in the great scheme of things. Now, this is absolutely Orwellian, but again, it goes with everything else I've been showing you. It's a piece with everything else the political class, particularly labor, is feeding us. And when you consider the way this government has ramped up the powers of the e-caren, I mean the e-safety commissioner, well, you see the problem. Seen in this light, the stupid TikToks our polys offer up are really just their version of bread and circuses, a way to avoid real debate on everything that ails our country, from mass migration to high energy prices to a blowout in bureaucracy that has seen 28 public servants added to the payroll every single day that Labour has been in power. Don't fall for it. Keep talking, keep debating, and if they accuse you of misinformation, guess what?
01:22:22
Speaker 2: You're winning.
01:22:28
Speaker 3: Great stuff. Now, Australia's Iranian community has been requesting the Albanese government since March, asking for them to recognise and directly contact Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi as the chosen leader of the Iranian revolution, but to no avail. but that request has been taken up by the Coalition with an official invitation to the Crown Prince to meet directly. This was led by Shadow Foreign Affairs Minister Ted O'Brien. Well done, Ted. This week, leaders of Iranian communities in Australia met again with Mr O'Brien to explore the potential opportunities for Australia and Iran in the future. I'm pleased to say Iranian activist Omid Vahidi joins us. Great to see you again, Omid. Now, why is it so important that Australians start... get to know the Crown Prince?
01:23:16
Speaker 9: I think it's an opportunity for all Australians, as well as Iranians, because the future of Iran will be a free Iran.
01:23:24
Speaker 3: That will be a true.
01:23:26
Speaker 9: Ally to the democracy, to the best world, and is not going to expand like this regime that's at the moment. So it's good that right now we build that alliance with the future of Iran and just recognize the crown prince as the transitional leader, as a leader that millions of people around the world and inside the country just went out and shouted his name. So it's very important to recognize what will be the future, in the future, and who will be leading the future of Iran.
01:24:01
Speaker 5: And it's also a show of support to the people in Iran, isn't it, who are protesting against the regime?
01:24:07
Speaker 3: Exactly.
01:24:07
Speaker 9: So that's just support of, you know, human rights, support of, you know, standing on the right side of the, you know, history. Because a lot of bad things have happened during the past six months. The executions are still happening in Iran. So that mass murder that happened in January, that was a big thing, like more than 40,000 people. But the executions are happening every day. Last week, many people, tens of people were executed because of just opposing to the government, not acting, just opposing.
01:24:37
Speaker 3: James.
01:24:38
Speaker 6: Ahmed, I want to ask what your assessment is of the progress of the campaign to unseat the regime in Tehran.
01:24:45
Speaker 2: This week, we had U.S.
01:24:46
Speaker 6: Treasury Secretary Scott Besant make some very strong statements about going after the assets of the actual mullahs themselves, their secret bank accounts in the Virgin Islands, et cetera. Are you optimistic about this line of economic attack on the regime?
01:25:05
Speaker 1: Yes, I think.
01:25:07
Speaker 9: So the military action, all of those operations and conflicts and stuff was very effective, but it wasn't like finishing the job. This economic attack that the U.S. has started, this whole campaign, I think it's going to finish the job. The price of the dollar, like the exchange rate of the dollar, has gone through the roof during the past week, just more than 30 percent increase during the past week. So it will be much, much harder for the government, for the regime to just continue with this course.
01:25:42
Speaker 3: Of actions that they have.
01:25:44
Speaker 9: So I'm very optimistic that, you know, the economic side and the military, you know, the blockade, the naval blockade that they have in the region, those together can just bring down the regime and just finish them off.
01:25:56
Speaker 3: So we've seen the three warship... Sorry, three oil tankers shot or taken out by the Americans last night. I think it was over the weekend. Yes.
01:26:05
Speaker 17: What.
01:26:06
Speaker 3: How much contact do you have with people in Iran and what is the mood on the street? What are they waiting for? Is it simply that the IRGC are just too powerful, too strong at this point?
01:26:17
Speaker 2: Why?
01:26:18
Speaker 3: And you mentioned many people... I've seen numbers of up to 100,000, I don't know if that's accurate or not, of people who have been murdered in Iran. Is that for coming out striking against the IRGC or is it for things like not wearing a hijab or whatever it is?
01:26:32
Speaker 9: I think people are just waiting for the chance, for that opportunity to come out, but it's very dangerous at the moment. Even just saying things or liking a post on Instagram... Or things like sending a message that he's opposing to the regime is like being, you know, that they are threatened by execution and stuff like that. So the IRGC is still operating inside the country. They're holding the whole control of the country. So the country is not run by the government that you see from outside. So the president of Iran is not doing anything. It's just a, you know, IRGC. It's a military operation inside Iran. And people are afraid that if they come out, same thing, same massacre is going to happen. So they need some sort of, you know, weakening of the IRGC by military actions or by economic, you know, attacks that the US is doing at the moment. And then, at the right moment, with a call from, I hope, Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi, everyone just comes out.
01:27:33
Speaker 3: That's what we want to hear. We want to hear that call, and that's got, obviously, the timing. Here's Scott Besant speaking on the topic.
01:27:39
Speaker 1: Have a listen.
01:27:42
Speaker 22: We are probably going to announce a bank sanction this week, and we will announce one the week after. We are speaking to our allies here who have all come forward, and we have had a great show of support, whether it's from the EU, the ECB, the UK, the UAE, the Bahrainians. So we have seen great support around the world.
01:28:09
Speaker 3: Are you hoping within a year? I mean, I believe Trump is going to see this through. That's my firm belief. But what's your thoughts? Just very quickly, we've got about 10 seconds left.
01:28:17
Speaker 9: I think it's going to be much faster because President Trump won't, you know, wait for, you know, just handing this over to another president. After that, he will finish the job before he goes out of the office.
01:28:29
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Amit, thank you so much for coming on, Outsiders. We'll speak again soon. After the break, Wally of the Week in a tip. Yes, it's Wally of the Week and we couldn't go past this couple in Spain. It's a LGBTIQ couple and they've threatened to go where? Have a listen. So if the far right wing When the next election, they're going to move to Palestine.
01:29:17
Speaker 5: They're going to seek asylum in Gaza.
01:29:19
Speaker 2: In Gaza!
01:29:19
Speaker 5: They're not just going to move quietly in. They're going to seek asylum. And when they're asked by Hamas, what grounds are you seeking asylum in Gaza, they're going to say, because we're homosexuals and we don't feel safe in... What was it, Spain?
01:29:32
Speaker 2: Spain.
01:29:33
Speaker 3: And they'll be told, well, we've got a perfect apartment for you on the top floor. We'll take you up there now. There's a nice roof terrace overlooking Gaza.
01:29:41
Speaker 2: Except the road, except the road. there aren't many high roofs left in Gaza at the moment. True. So, yeah.
01:29:46
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:29:47
Speaker 2: But that is... that is.
01:29:47
Speaker 6: that' s so fantastic. I, for one.
01:29:49
Speaker 2: I, for one, think, you know, we should do.
01:29:51
Speaker 5: It's almost so good, it's like parodies.
01:29:53
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
01:29:54
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, they could be... Could it be parody?
01:29:56
Speaker 5: Could be parody.
01:29:56
Speaker 2: Yeah. They could be. They could be doing some sort of Borat act. I don't know.
01:30:01
Speaker 6: Assuming they're serious, I would love to find these guys. I would love to crowdfund a documentary, send them over, see how long it lasts. It wouldn't, you know, last till the first ad break, but it would be a fascinating show.
01:30:14
Speaker 3: No, that would be horrific.
01:30:15
Speaker 5: It would be a snuff film. No, thank you. We're not sending people over to be murdered, James.
01:30:21
Speaker 3: But what's fascinating.
01:30:23
Speaker 5: No.
01:30:23
Speaker 3: But there is a serious point underneath the humour, and that is that they consider, again, if it's not a spoof, They consider Palestine to be the most progressive, there's that word you were focusing on earlier in the show, of nations. So they've bought into this whole idea that the left has been pushing this idea for the last couple of years, that there's this nirvana, this utopia, this progressive ideal of Palestine. How they got away with it is.
01:30:51
Speaker 5: Absolutely beyond me.
01:30:52
Speaker 3: Well, because the left are dumb.
01:30:54
Speaker 5: Their unholy alliance with Islamists is going to turn out to be is not very good for them because we saw this in Iran. Iran is actually a perfect warning for these idiots because before the Islamic Revolution, it was the Islamists together with the communists who were coming together to had their glorious revolution. And guess what the Islamists did as soon as that revolution took place and they took power? They killed the communists.
01:31:21
Speaker 3: They tortured all the lefties.
01:31:21
Speaker 5: The useful idiots had worn out their usefulness and they were dispatched with in brutal terms. So those in the West... But... From the left... These people hate you. The Islamists hate you. They hate your lifestyle. They hate pretty much every value that you hold dear.
01:31:40
Speaker 2: And.
01:31:41
Speaker 5: It's about time you woke up to that reality. And I think slowly, very slowly, some of them are waking up, but it's going to be too late when the masses are.
01:31:52
Speaker 2: On the left wing.
01:31:54
Speaker 6: This is why you see the Palestine flag on absolutely every single leftist cause. You know, I mean, Queers for Palestine started a long time ago, but we see it now attached to everything, because everything now, for the progressive pointy spear of the left, you know, you see it with all... the Democrats, Socialists in America, you see with people here. It's all about decolonisation. So, for them, Israel is the ultimate settler state. But the really important thing that everybody here needs to realise is they also see Australia as illegitimate. They see America as illegitimate. They all see, you know, stolen land, colonialism and all of that. And so that's why Palestine becomes the omnicose flag under which they rally.
01:32:35
Speaker 2: And Palestine.
01:32:35
Speaker 3: Let's not forget, Palestine doesn't actually exist. And the idiocy of Penny Wong... and Albanese and the Australian government, along with the British and a couple of others coming out and recognising Palestine. This feeds into this whole idea of, oh, it must be this amazing progressive Havana.
01:32:50
Speaker 5: Well, no, that couple specifically said Gaza. They didn't say Palestine. They said Gaza. Now, someone else who I could just bet a house is a pro-Palestine protester has won some concessions from Australia's biggest university.
01:33:06
Speaker 13: We got a really good result on our gender affirmation leave claim. So it looks like we're agreeing to extending that to casuals, which will basically mean that every employee at UQ will be able to access gender affirmation leave.
01:33:24
Speaker 5: So they will have trans or non-binary staff will have 30 days of special leave to affirm their gender identity. Now, I don't think they need to be getting surgery or anything like that here. I think that this is just whatever they consider to be affirming their gender identity. Maybe a shopping expedition, maybe getting a spray tan. I mean, I don't know. Whatever form that takes. And again, taxpayer dollars. This is what's funding all of this.
01:33:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the leave costs money. The leave costs money, obviously.
01:33:56
Speaker 6: And, you know, you want to know why productivity is in the toilet in this country. It's precisely because of this sort of thing.
01:34:03
Speaker 5: It starts... taxpayers fund that, say, at a university, but then it will be.
01:34:08
Speaker 2: Corporate Australia follows.
01:34:09
Speaker 5: Corporate Australia follows.
01:34:10
Speaker 2: Exactly.
01:34:11
Speaker 3: They've got to stop funding these... We saw the other lunatic down in Melbourne with his menses as a bigot. Now we've got this.
01:34:17
Speaker 5: A Nazi.
01:34:18
Speaker 3: character here, gender-affirming thing. When are people going to stop sending their kids to these ridiculous universities and start finding universities where they're actually teaching them something useful? And when are governments going to stop pouring money into these joke places because it is polluting the entire political, you know, future of this country when you have kids like that who are so dumb in what they have been taught. What they've been taught is such garbage and yet it is the centre of their being.
01:34:51
Speaker 2: It's tragic.
01:34:52
Speaker 6: My prediction, Rowan and Rita, is that in five, within the next five years, the entire higher education industry in this country country is going to burst like a bubble. As soon as you start calling anything an industry, you know you've got a problem when it's about education. It is going to get blown up by two or three things. Number one, Once there's a crackdown on foreign students and all of that money gets yanked, that's going to be a big thing. But then parents are going to wake up and kids are going to wake up and say, going there for three years or however many years.
01:35:24
Speaker 2: Doesn't get you a job... and then learning nothing, you're not going to get a real job out of it.
01:35:27
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that's true, James, because that's been the case for well over a decade and the parents and the students haven't woken up. They still think it is a pathway. Obviously, university education is enormously valuable... and necessary for certain professions. But then if you're going there and doing some junk degree, that's just going to give you a hex debt. and no likelihood of a better job, that's not fantastic. But can I say about this ideology just seeping into the private sector, but also government bureaucracies, Chrissie Barrett, she can be a nominee for Wally of the Week.
01:36:00
Speaker 17: Oh, yeah.
01:36:00
Speaker 5: The Australian Federal Police Commissioner has included social cohesion in her top five priorities, but left out counter-terrorism, despite what's happened at Bondi. So, again, we have seen again and again with this individual... The ideology overtake police work, in my point of view.
01:36:23
Speaker 2: That's what we were talking about earlier.
01:36:24
Speaker 3: It's a disgrace. Let's vote for our Wally of the Week. I've got to go for the character from UQ with this gender-affirming thing. But just to answer your question, I reckon, and to your point, AI is going to finish off the university.
01:36:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be.
01:36:36
Speaker 3: Because people are going to go, what's the... What do I actually get? What job do I get from gender-affirming blah, blah, blah?
01:36:43
Speaker 2: No job.
01:36:43
Speaker 3: There are no jobs.
01:36:44
Speaker 2: Oh, OK.
01:36:46
Speaker 3: So it's going to finish it off. Wally of the Week, the character in the middle would be my.
01:36:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm happy to back that.
01:36:51
Speaker 2: Done.
01:36:51
Speaker 3: Done. Done. Wally of the Week, there you go. We're going to take a short break with some celebrities, some stupid celebrities, and, ooh, a couple of them are right there in a tick. Yes, I've always said that the real racists can be found on the left, and this week, the tiresome left-wing actress Miriam Margolis, who spends her time between Britain and Australia, seemed determined to prove that very point.
01:37:21
Speaker 1: Have a listen.
01:37:23
Speaker 5: What accent would be normal for you?
01:37:25
Speaker 1: No, this is my normal.
01:37:25
Speaker 2: What are you?
01:37:26
Speaker 5: What am I?
01:37:26
Speaker 2: I'm me.
01:37:27
Speaker 3: Well, you're a mix, aren't you?
01:37:28
Speaker 2: I'm a mix, yes. No!
01:37:30
Speaker 5: So, you've got a black daddy and a white mummy?
01:37:31
Speaker 2: No, no, no, my both friends are black.
01:37:33
Speaker 5: Both parents black? Yes, yes, yes.
01:37:35
Speaker 2: Oh, I think you're what I would call a high... What's June put on me? Am I a lighter shade than normal?
01:37:39
Speaker 5: I think you're high-yaller.
01:37:41
Speaker 3: High-yaller?
01:37:42
Speaker 2: What's high-yaller?
01:37:44
Speaker 5: That's what they call it in America.
01:37:46
Speaker 2: Oh.
01:37:46
Speaker 5: When someone isn't deeply black.
01:37:48
Speaker 2: Right.
01:37:49
Speaker 3: I didn't even know there were shades.
01:37:50
Speaker 5: There are shades.
01:37:51
Speaker 2: Oh, OK.
01:37:52
Speaker 5: And this is what we have to incorporate.
01:37:54
Speaker 3: They're getting nervous now. They're getting nervous now.
01:37:56
Speaker 2: Don't be nervous.
01:37:57
Speaker 3: They're getting nervous.
01:37:58
Speaker 5: Don't be nervous.
01:37:58
Speaker 2: Don't be nervous.
01:37:59
Speaker 5: We welcome everybody.
01:38:02
Speaker 3: What the presenter there, when he was touching his ears, saying, they're getting nervous, they're getting nervous, he was talking about the producers who were watching and going, what is this lunatic woman on about? You should have seen James's face.
01:38:13
Speaker 6: So, I hadn't seen that clip before. I'd heard that it had been going around. I had not actually seen that clip. And, wow, I mean, that term she used is about as offensive as you can get. It goes back to slavery times. so you can, you know, draw from that what you will.
01:38:34
Speaker 5: But no, according to Miriam, this has just been regular usage in America. People are just saying it on television.
01:38:40
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
01:38:40
Speaker 5: They're just, like, just chatting about it over coffee. But even just the way that started, as if he's putting on an accent to be... on TV and he's like, I'm British. What do you mean? What am I? I am me. This is how I speak.
01:38:54
Speaker 3: Wow. But she lectures us endlessly about left-wing woke stuff. Has done for years. She pops up on Australian TV. They love her here.
01:39:02
Speaker 5: She's always on the ABC.
01:39:05
Speaker 3: And there you get the mask slips off.
01:39:06
Speaker 2: You don't have to revise me.
01:39:08
Speaker 5: She's done one good thing in her career, which was really thanks to J.K. Rowling.
01:39:12
Speaker 2: Of course.
01:39:12
Speaker 5: She was one of the Harry Potter characters. Now, I've got... A Hollywood A-lister for you now.
01:39:19
Speaker 10: Oh, good.
01:39:19
Speaker 2: Oh, OK. George Clooney.
01:39:21
Speaker 5: The man who, remember, he was telling us how intellectually sound Joe Biden was until that disastrous debate performance and then he did a 180 and now he has to be removed. So he's a bit of a political player. He's not just an actor. Listen to him suddenly become a free speech activist.
01:39:40
Speaker 1: To support Mark Ruffalo's ability to speak freely, I think that that's ridiculous.
01:39:47
Speaker 9: We're not going to ban speech, but I believe in free speech even when I completely disagree with it.
01:39:55
Speaker 1: That's important. In fact, it's part of how a democracy works.
01:40:00
Speaker 5: Thanks, George. I needed you to tell me how democracy works. Now, this guy said nothing when Charlie Kirk was murdered. If you want to talk about defending free speech, perhaps that would have been a good time to pipe up. said nothing when you were talking about the acting world when Gina Carano was cancelled by Disney for saying something that was entirely inoffensive if you actually look at it in the way, the context she said it. No, nothing for her. But Mark Ruffalo, who gets millions of dollars per film, who's not cancelled, who just got a little bit of heat back, a bit of a backlash... for saying things that were considered anti-Semitic. Suddenly, he's all for free speech. Suddenly, you have to allow people you disagree with to have their say. I mean, he is just so false.
01:40:44
Speaker 2: That's very curious, that one, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:40:47
Speaker 3: Free speech is fine, yeah.
01:40:49
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:40:49
Speaker 3: Suddenly, he's a great defender of free speech.
01:40:51
Speaker 2: Speaking of free speech, I actually.
01:40:52
Speaker 6: You know, one of the reasons why I love free speech so much, as you know, is because it gives people the opportunity to show.
01:40:59
Speaker 2: What idiots they are.
01:41:01
Speaker 6: And we don't have a grab of this, unfortunately, but apparently filmmaker Alex Gimdi has been out there talking about how.
01:41:09
Speaker 2: I love this.
01:41:10
Speaker 6: Apparently Elon Musk used space lasers to steal the 2024 election.
01:41:16
Speaker 2: There's a whole film about it.
01:41:18
Speaker 5: There's a HBO film. It's not just a theory he's sharing on X or Instagram. He is a.
01:41:23
Speaker 2: put.
01:41:24
Speaker 5: Together a film exploring this debunked conspiracy theory. So he thinks it's real. He thinks Elon and the space lasers.
01:41:33
Speaker 3: I don't get it.
01:41:34
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
01:41:34
Speaker 3: How did the space lasers.
01:41:35
Speaker 5: And apparently Elon also has stolen all sorts of federal... I mean, the crimes of the world's first trillionaire are very big, according to this character, Alex Gibney.
01:41:46
Speaker 2: There you go.
01:41:46
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think we'll... I could say things about other elections, but anyway, I won't. LAUGHTER Don't go into that.
01:41:53
Speaker 5: More and more is becoming apparent about that one indeed. Exactly.
01:41:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, we don't.
01:41:59
Speaker 5: Pick our worst celebrity.
01:42:00
Speaker 3: Can we start with that? It's got to be Miriam.
01:42:02
Speaker 2: It's got to be Miriam.
01:42:03
Speaker 3: That's it for Outsiders. Have a very happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there. Make sure you watch Rita during the week, 11 o'clock every night and.
01:42:09
Speaker 2: Of course, Friday.
01:42:10
Speaker 3: That's the big night. World, according to Rowan Dean, US report, lefties losing. Oh, Friday night.
01:42:14
Speaker 1: So good.
01:42:14
Speaker 3: Almost as good as Sunday morning. Have a great day.
01:42:16
Speaker 1: See you.