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Welcome back to another powerful episode of Healthy Waves.
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I'm your host, Avik, and today we have a truly fascinating conversation that bridges two worlds.
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Like you might not expect, the cutting edge precision of aerospace engineering and the deeply human quest for health and wellness.
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Yeah.
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And our guest today is Mark Lee Fox.
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So welcome to the show, Mark.
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Oh, thank you for having me.
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I appreciate it.
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Amazing.
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So, dear listeners, like before we delve deep into the discussion today, I'll love to introduce you with Mark.
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So, Mark has lived a life that is defined by curiosity, exploration, and innovation.
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So he has been the space shuttle chief engineer, a hot air balloonist for more than 35 years.
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Yeah.
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And even built his own airplane.
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It's amazing, right?
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But Mark didn't stop at um exploring the skies.
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So he turned his talents towards uh helping people heal here on Earth.
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So as the founder and CEO of Resona Health, he is pioneering resonance frequency therapy.
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So he invented the Vive VIBE, the wall's only pocket-sized pulsed electromagnetic field device, uh drug-free, portable, and non-invasive tool that is designed to support the general wellness.
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So from easing pain and anxiety to improving sleep and energy, the Vive is uh transforming the way people think about personal well-being.
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So guided by his belief and that the future of medicine is in the frequencies.
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So Mark is providing the that wellness doesn't always require the pills or procedures.
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Sometimes it just requires turning in.
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So why do we let's get started?
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Welcome to the show again, Mark.
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Yeah, thank you again for having me.
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Thank you for that introduction.
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That was very, very, very, very nice.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much.
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Yeah.
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So, Mark, like your career began in um aerospace engineering, a world of rockets, precision, science.
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So, what led you from that field into health and wellness?
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Well, it wasn't a direct path there at all.
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Is because I went into a lot of other things as well.
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So I went into uh airplane construction.
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I worked for uh on the Boeing aircraft, those type of things.
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And then I got into, if anyone remembers, a zip drive at I Amega, it was the first, you know, 100 megabyte storage unit, which was a big deal back then.
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And then I've uh, you know, I still own part of a woman's clothing company.
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Um what got me into this energy therapy was my dog.
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She couldn't come up the stairs one morning and she was just sitting there crying, which had never happened before.
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So we took her to the veterinarian, and she had unfortunately severe arthritis in her spine.
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And a friend of mine who is a veterinarian, not the same one, he he lives in a different state.
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He um he said, Hey, there's an energy machine, a frequency energy machine that can reverse arthritis.
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And I'm kind of like skeptical, going, well, I'm a rocket scientist.
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I don't know if that's true or not, but it's my dog, so I'll I'm gonna go dive in and look into this technology.
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So that that's how I learned about it.
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And then I just saw that you know, what it could do for a lot of different conditions, particularly PTSD was the first one, and it just kind of made me angry that this technology wasn't available to everyone.
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And you know, it's being held hostage in a clinical environment, a couple states away, or it's too expensive for most people.
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So I kind of set out to naively go build a little simple device that would be a pocket-sized one that would be affordable.
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True.
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I agree.
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So, like um, was there a single turning point that made you realize that this is where I need to dedicate my energy?
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Yeah, just back to the PTSD as a starters.
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It's uh, you know, in the United States, we have 44 suicides a day, 22 military veterans, 15 first responders, five medical workers, two active duty, and that's not counting all uh civilians.
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So it's just in my mind was criminal to have a technology that can stop somebody from killing themselves, and they don't have access to it.
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So that's that's the first one we went after.
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We have today the largest PMF PTSD study in the world, and we have a 98% success rate, which is just mind-boggling.
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I mean, no medication or drug touched that.
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So that was the real motivator that got it started.
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We've anxiety, blood sugar, back pain, neck pain, uh AFib.
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We've now discovered that device can help with.
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Um, so there's a lot of those things, and we're doing studies, as many as we can afford to go do to go continue and prove that it works in these areas.
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But and we get surprised, right?
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We get surprised by customers who say, hey, I did this for such and such, and it helped.
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I'm like, never would have known it could do that.
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So it's that's happening.
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I had three doctors um last year all tell me in the same week, which was odd.
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It's like, hey, this thing's really kicking butt for MS.
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And I go, muscular sclerosis?
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And they're like, yes.
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And I go, well, I don't have a protocol for that.
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I go, what are you using?
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Fibromyalgia because it's nerve-related?
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And they went, Yep.
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So you can bridge it to go do a lot of other things too as well.
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It's it's it's pretty interesting.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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I agree.
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And um, I love that because it shows how skills from one domain can open entirely new possibilities in another, like when guided by the purpose.
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So that's really amazing.
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Um, so like I teach a whole thing among those things called this business topology, and there's a thing called TRIS, T-R-I-Z.
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It's a Russian acronym that stands for roughly the theory of inventive problem solving.
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And one of the premises it's called TRIS, right?
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One of the premises is like somebody somewhere has already solved your problem.
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Yeah, you just need to apply it to your condition.
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So this guy, his name was Henrik Altschuler in the 50s, a Russian engineer, and he went trying to find procedures and processes for creativity, couldn't find any, so he did it on his own.
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And he went and looked at uh at the time it was 350,000 patents.
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The communities now looked at millions of them, and said, What's how were these things solved?
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And shockingly, they all fell within into one of 40 different categories.
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Okay, so everything's been solved by one of these 40 categories.
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For example, number one is segmentation.
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How do you break it in pieces to make it do what you need to do?
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Taking out is number two.
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All right, number three is local quality, you're using something that is specific to the environment that it's in.
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So all those things called business topology or TRIZ, as you can look at.
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Um I'll give you an example.
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I mean, I mean maybe a kick out of this.
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It's like, so, you know, a think tank hired me to literally design a new light bulb.
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Okay.
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So they paid me a bunch of money for one week to go.
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And I said, all right.
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So what it was is an LED light, and the problem was trying to cool it, right?
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Because it was putting out so much heat.
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So in the world of TRIS, if you look at a higher level, back up a step and say, I'm not trying to do a better light bulb.
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I'm trying to find a way to cool electronics without a fan or cool electronics without a motor.
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So I just went to Google Patents, typed that in.
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It showed me a design on a computer.
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I copied that design, just applied it to the light bulb.
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Now, I didn't tell a guy I did that in 20 minutes.
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I went and played golf the rest of the week because he's not going to pay me, you know, what he paid me to just do two minutes.
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And I came back on Friday, I said, I've worked on this all week.
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Um, here you go.
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And he was just ecstatic because we had a brand new design literally for a light bulb.
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Wow.
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So, like uh, do you have said that the future of medicine is in the frequencies?
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So, for listeners who may not be familiar, if you can uh explain in simple terms like what resonance frequency therapy is and why it matters.
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Yeah, you kind of look at it at a higher level, is look at energy transfer.
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Nothing in the world happens without energy transfer.
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I mean, we don't we don't breathe oxygen, we don't drive our cars or the gasoline, we don't walk and burn calories, you don't fall down and hurt yourself, you don't do any of these, you don't get a cavity filled, right, without a drill and energy exchange.
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So energy can be transferred to the body through electrical current, magnetic fields, light, vibration, or sound.
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So you can transfer any of those ways.
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Um, what we know is that your cells in your body have an electrical charge on them, like a battery.
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And when that voltage gets low, you get sick.
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So it increases the charge on the cells' batteries at the membrane level with the higher voltage, allows good stuff to get in the cell and waste products to get out.
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So it increases the voltage on the cells, it increases ATP.
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Idatosine triphosphate, which is the number one fuel that your bodies use for energy, up to 500%.
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So it's recharging cells' batteries, it's giving your body the cells the food it needs, so your body can do what it does best, which is heal itself.
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So that's it at the there's a lot of other theories on how it works, but that is it at the highest level that you can you know show and prove with with biomarkers and blood analysis and those types of things.
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Exactly.
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Wow.
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So uh and how does the vive actually work with the body at a certain level?
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Well, what it's doing is so it's transferring energy, like I just said, which frequencies it use all came.
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So it's using frequency pairs.
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They're not an exact frequency, and not just one frequency.
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So picture a frequency pair like a chord on a guitar, and the protocols are songs.
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So the frequency pair is changing every one to four minutes, and they're all different for each each protocol.
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Where it comes from, unfortunately, around the turn of the century, the 1900s, Nikolai Tesla, a bunch of other people were doing stimulation with with electrical signals and electrical energy, and then Dale Carnegie and Rockefeller screwed it up.
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Rockefeller owned all the oil in the country, he owned standard oil, and he figured how his team figured out how to make drugs out of oil.
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And him and Carnegie basically owned the medical landscape as far as licensing and funding universities and all of that.
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So they basically said, hey, if it's not, if it's not surgery or drugs, we're gonna pull your license and we're gonna not fund the universities anymore.
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So in the United States, unfortunately, it got dropped.
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We're about a hundred years behind from the rest of the world.
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We're catching up fast.
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But if you picture chords on a guitar and the protocols being songs, just picture a pickup band, right?
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You know, of kids in a garage.
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They're making it up, right?
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You add a song here, you put in a horn here, you change the lyrics a little bit, make your voice raspy here, you change the song, and that's exactly where they came, most of them came from, is 8,000 practitioners over 35 years in writing songs, right?
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You try this on a patient, you add a little bit of this, add some 40 hertz frequency or some 80 hertz, and take out 120 and see if it helps or made it better or worse.
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And that's how they've most of them have been developed.
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Exactly.
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Wow.
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So, like um, okay, I mean it's really fascinating because the idea that our bodies are not just biochemical, but also electromagnetic systems that can be tuned.
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So that's amazing.
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So also like uh yeah, to that point, to that point, our bodies are chemical, mechanical, and electrical, and it's insane to get rid of any one of those three when you're trying to treat something, right?
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If you take the electrical part out of the equation, you're not treating the whole person.
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I agree, I totally agree.
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Yeah, so like um uh traditional wellness approaches often rely on the medication or you can say the invasive treatments.
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So your device is portable, right?
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So drug-free and non-invasive.
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So what do you see as the biggest advantages of this kind of wellness technology?
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You just said it.
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It's it's portable, it's simple, it's simple to use, it's affordable, and most important, it's affordable, right?
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So, you know, PM, uh a beamer mat, if you go out man on the street and you ask somebody, hey, have you ever heard of PMF?
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About one out of 15 people in the US is gonna say yes, unless you're a horse owner, because 100% of the horse owners know what it is.
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But um, and so the a beamer mat's gonna know what you're gonna know that from a chiropractor or whatever or a spa.
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And like, what's the difference between yours and a beamer mat?
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Well, okay, it's one piece instead of seven.
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It's 152 times smaller, it's 25 times more affordable because a beamer mat's about$7,000 for the starter, right?
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So it's just it's out of most people's price range.
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So that is the biggest difference.
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It's portable.
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I forget I'm even running a protocol.
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I always sometimes I'll reach in my pocket for my cell phone, I pull it out and I go, Oh, yeah, I was running a protocol.
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I even forgot.
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So it's and you can take it on an airplane, right?
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You can drive with it, you can do it.
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It's therapy on the go.
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Therapy on the go.
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Yeah, love that, yeah.
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And I'm very curious about so this might sound contradictory, but actually not.
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Like uh some people uh hear that frequency healing or PEMF, and think that it sounds too out there, or maybe even uh pseudoscience.
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Um, so how do you respond to those skeptics who doubt that kind of technology?
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I wrote a lie, I wrote an article for all the Facebook haters called Liar Liar Pants on Fire.
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So I said, okay.
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Okay.
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So here's all the top scams of all time: MRIs, DNA sequencing, CRISPR, radio signals, antibiotics, right?
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So I list it lists a hundred different technologies, actually it's 300 in the article, 300 technologies, 100 in each field, that were 100% impossible until they weren't.
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Until they weren't, right?
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So this is on the cuff of the same thing, I believe.
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So if you if your listeners went and researched how an MRI works, an MR in Mark's opinion, an MRI is the most magical thing ever, ever built by a human being.
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But we do a hundred, we do a million of them a year and look at the photograph.
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If you want, I'll take I'll give you my 60-second version on how an MRI works.
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Sure.
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So the protons in your body have a north and a south pole like the planet Earth, and they're all random.
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Trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions of them are random.
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Okay.
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You put somebody in an MRI machine, you hit them with 50,000 Goss, and it makes all of those protons line up like a laser.
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Okay.
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Then you literally take AM and FM radio, and depending on what part of the body you want to look at, you tune into 103.5 FM and you hit the person with radio waves.
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Or the heart's going to be a different frequency, or the blood's a different frequency, the liver's a different frequency.
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You hit them with the radio signal while you're hitting them with the magnetic field that's keeping the protons in a laser format.
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Then you turn everything off, and your body, the protons snap back to randomness, and your body releases energy, and that energy is captured by a Fourier transform machine.
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That's how you make a photograph of your heart or your liver.
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It's your body spitting energy out from a laser that was so I just explained lining up protons, hitting it with radio signals, releasing it, the energy release, and the fact that you can even capture that energy release in a high-resolution picture is the most amazing thing.
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Yep.
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Now, you can go look at anything else that's out there that you know, Arthur Clark said something, you know, significantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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And if you had your cell phone on the Mayflower or 400 years ago, what would people say that was?
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Right?
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It's like, so to all the negative people out there, I had one doctor say, Mark, PMF is not on trial here.
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If anyone thinks it's on trial, they haven't done their homework.
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So if you go to Pub PubMed and type in PMF, you'll find 6,000 published articles on PubMed or NIH.
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There's 35,000 published papers that have been on this technology.
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NASA has used it since the 1970s for bone density because you can't stay on the space station, you can't do long-term space travel, you certainly can't get to Mars without this technology.
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Wow.
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Wow, lovely.
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So, like um uh what kind of scientific research or evidence helps validate the effectiveness of the uh and the safety of BMF.
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Well, I mean, like I said, there's 35,000 published papers out there on it.
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We my company personally, we've done the PTSD study where we did you know questionnaires before and after.
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We're looking at heart rate variability to do some blood work on it, but you can afford.
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Um, we did a study on our the other device that we have that came out a couple months ago is a it's called VegaVibe.
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It's a pendant that you wear around your neck near the heart.
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We did a third-party independent study on that that showed with one out a one-hour session, 100% of the people had an improvement in in heart rate variability, reduction in stress and blood pressure and and blood, you know, and heart rate, and just feeling of general well-being and a bunch of other things.
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So the safety issue part of it, like I just said, is put in perspective, our device puts out nine to ten Goss, nine on the vibe, 12 on the vegabyte.
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An MRI that I just described to you is 50,000 Goss.
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And nobody in the world, only one person, to my knowledge, has ever died from an MRI, and it's because an oxygen tank flew across the room, it wasn't tied down.
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The government has rough guidelines on energy and frequency.
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If you the analogy I use is picture a surfer waiting for a wave.
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If if a wave comes by every 20 minutes and it's only two feet high, there's not a lot of energy.
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If the wave comes by a million times a second or a hundred million times a second and it's 200 feet tall, that's a lot of energy.
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So there, you know, it's so it's the frequency times the amplitude.
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And to put it in perspective, your cell phone is a million times higher frequency than these devices, as far as the safety point of view.
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And there's guidelines with frequency versus energy level.
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And there's a, you know, the government's put out a chart and a curve, and we're far below what's what below what you know any kind of safety issues are.
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Yeah, and we this it's a very common misconception because people like they're all scared of they go, Is it put out EMF, electromagnetic fields?
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Yes, it does, but they're not the harmful kind, they're not like Wi-Fi or your cell phone, these are way less energy.
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But unfortunately, Avik, we got people that got all these EMF readers and they don't know what the hell they're even reading.
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They don't understand the technology and they put it on there and they see it does something, makes so like, oh, it's gotta be bad for you.
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No, it's not different waveforms, those types of things.
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Wow.
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So I mean stories like that really bring the science to life.
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So uh that's a critical point because uh innovation always faces the skepticism.
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But when you combine science, safety, and the results, the conversation begins to shift.
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So that is something, yeah, definitely.
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And I'll also say, like, uh, you have designed this device to be worn during the daily activities, like reading, walking, even cooking as well.
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So, uh, how do you see the future of wellness technology blending seamlessly into people's everyday lives?
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Yeah, I mean, it's this the device we have now is pretty seamless because it's in your pocket and you forget it's kind of there.
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Um, my my dream is because I said you can deliver this with light, sound, vibration, electrical current, or magnetic fields, is to be able to go, hey Alexa, run Alzheimer's in the living room and have it just run through the lights.
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And we've already built that prototype.
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The problem is the smart bulbs and stuff that a lot of people have in their homes is or any light bulb, it's designed when you turn it on to not just come on because it's too shocking to the eye.
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So it takes like a millisecond of ramping it up.
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But I got to be able to turn it on and off a thousand times a second to get the protocol to go through the light.
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And I haven't been able to get anyone, Phillips or anyone else, to call me back yet, tell me how to get around that engineering part of it.
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Um, and in the end, you the next step of that is you're not gonna tell Alexa anything, the smart, your wellness watch that we're coming out with next month.
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You're gonna have one on your wrist that tells it the lights what to go do, right?
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And you won't even see it, you won't even know what's happening.
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It's just go, you know what?
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Your blood pressure's a little high, run the blood pressure through the lights.
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I put out a challenge actually.
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So that's one thing.
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On your cell phone, most new phones, right, have a chi coil on it, right?
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That's a coil in the phone that's allowing energy to go, a magnetic energy to go into the coil to charge your battery.
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And because these are M3 MP3 files, is I want I put out an actual contest for$25,000 for somebody to solve this, was make it hack, hack the OS of the phone so that I can send the MP3 through the charging coil instead of putting power into the coil.
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You follow me?
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If I did that, you could take an app and turn air.
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That that my goal there would be to put me out of business, right?
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Is you go come up with an app that everyone's phone now becomes a therapy device.
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You don't need a vibe.
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But nobody, nobody has stepped up to the challenge of the 25k to show me how to hack a phone to do that.
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And I'm not an electrical engineer, so I don't know how to, even if I was, don't know how to hack the phone.
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But exactly.
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Hmm.
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And like um if you had to sum it up, what do you think wellness will look like?
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I mean, 10 years or 15 years from now?
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I don't know because all of us are just jaw-dropped on what AI is doing, right?
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So my next thing that I'm doing, the product coming out next month, is to take our watch that's measuring blood sugar, blood pressure, stress, heart rate variability, put it into the cloud if the if the customer chooses to, right?
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It's gonna be on a HIPAA compliant AWS medical servers.
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But the the amount of things that AI could do looking at long-term trend data and making recommendations of what to change.
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I I think giving an example, we've had three customers in the last two weeks tell us their AFib went from 97% to 2%, running the Vegas nerve.
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And I never even knew it could do anything like that.
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So I think it's just gonna be the discovery stuff of we all know we're all made out of energy.
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We're not solid, we're vibrating strings, we resonate with the strings, right?
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It's like so it's and it resonates with the water in your body, but it's um, and a few other things.
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But it I don't know what that future.
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I just described two of the things you know that I think would be really cool is reverse a phone and shove it through lights.
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Um but I beyond that, and I think everyone's in the same boat this AI, the speed of acceleration.
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I I didn't use any AI in the company, I didn't use it at all eight months ago.
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And I probably have 30 GPTs that we use to run the business, right?
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It's just a I yeah, the one device.
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I'll give you an example.
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The device that's coming out for Alzheimer's is like I I fed all the MIT research into AI and I said, hey, they just use a white light at 40 hertz.
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It was like a rope bike because I know the guy.
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So what light would you use along with PMF?
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And I go, would you use red light therapy?
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It goes, no, use blue.
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Here's why.
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And I got it goes, would you like me to give you a part number for the blue lights so you don't have to design the lights on your own?
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Yes, I would.
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Give me the light, right?
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That kind of stuff is just crazy how you can build and test stuff faster.
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Um we all need to kind of keep our foot on the power plug to kick it if we need to, but it's uh, you know, it's it's some crazy stuff.
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So I don't need, I mean, that's that that's I I see it's I don't think anyone can see what's gonna happen with that piece of it, but it's gonna be for those of our I'm 64 for those of us around, it'll be fun to watch.
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Exactly.
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Amazing.
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I mean, I really love the discussion.
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I'd say, Mark.
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I mean, thank you so much for taking us on this journey, like from irrespistanness.
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Wow, what a what a transformation, and from from rockets to resonance.
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So uh what you have shared today reminds us that innovation isn't just about the machines and the technology, but it's all about uh applying creativity and science to improve lives.
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So, for all the listeners, I'd love to say that maybe the future of medicine isn't uh locked away in a pharmacy.
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Maybe it's the frequencies all around us waiting to be tuned.
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So devices like the Vive are opening new doors to drug-free, safe, and empowering approaches to the webs.
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So if you'd like to learn more about Mark's uh walk and the vibe device, head on to Resona Health and to explore the science, stories, and the possibilities for yourself.
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And Mark, if someone wants to connect with you, what would be the great medium to connect?
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Just go to the website, like you said, is Rosona is short for residents, R-E-S-O-N-A.Health.
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There's no dot com, or they can email us infoinfo at resona.health.
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I got a team now.
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Is it was me a year and a half ago by myself.
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I got about 15 people on the team now, but they're all I got I got lucky there, dude.
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I I hired somehow by luck the best people in the world.
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They're awesome.
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Wow.
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Yeah, that that has removed an incredible amount of it's freed me up to go do some of the more stuff I want to go do, right?
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Just come up with new devices and those type of things.
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Exactly.
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Amazing, lovely.
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Great.
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So, dear listeners, what I'll do is I'll put all the links into the show notes for your easier friends.
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And until next time, this is your host of Vic, and this has been Healthy Beaves.
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So stay curious, stay innovative, and remember that the future of your health might just be humming in the frequencies of today.
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So, thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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Welcome back to another powerful episode of Healthy Waves.
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I'm your host, Avik, and today we have a truly fascinating conversation that bridges two worlds.
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Like you might not expect, the cutting edge precision of aerospace engineering and the deeply human quest for health and wellness.
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Yeah.
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And our guest today is Mark Lee Fox.
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So welcome to the show, Mark.
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Oh, thank you for having me.
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I appreciate it.
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Amazing.
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So, dear listeners, like before we delve deep into the discussion today, I'll love to introduce you with Mark.
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So, Mark has lived a life that is defined by curiosity, exploration, and innovation.
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So he has been the space shuttle chief engineer, a hot air balloonist for more than 35 years.
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Yeah.
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And even built his own airplane.
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It's amazing, right?
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But Mark didn't stop at um exploring the skies.
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So he turned his talents towards uh helping people heal here on Earth.
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So as the founder and CEO of Resona Health, he is pioneering resonance frequency therapy.
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So he invented the Vive VIBE, the wall's only pocket-sized pulsed electromagnetic field device, uh drug-free, portable, and non-invasive tool that is designed to support the general wellness.
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So from easing pain and anxiety to improving sleep and energy, the Vive is uh transforming the way people think about personal well-being.
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So guided by his belief and that the future of medicine is in the frequencies.
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So Mark is providing the that wellness doesn't always require the pills or procedures.
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Sometimes it just requires turning in.
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So why do we let's get started?
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Welcome to the show again, Mark.
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Yeah, thank you again for having me.
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Thank you for that introduction.
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That was very, very, very, very nice.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much.
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Yeah.
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So, Mark, like your career began in um aerospace engineering, a world of rockets, precision, science.
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So, what led you from that field into health and wellness?
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Well, it wasn't a direct path there at all.
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Is because I went into a lot of other things as well.
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So I went into uh airplane construction.
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I worked for uh on the Boeing aircraft, those type of things.
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And then I got into, if anyone remembers, a zip drive at I Amega, it was the first, you know, 100 megabyte storage unit, which was a big deal back then.
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And then I've uh, you know, I still own part of a woman's clothing company.
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Um what got me into this energy therapy was my dog.
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She couldn't come up the stairs one morning and she was just sitting there crying, which had never happened before.
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So we took her to the veterinarian, and she had unfortunately severe arthritis in her spine.
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And a friend of mine who is a veterinarian, not the same one, he he lives in a different state.
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He um he said, Hey, there's an energy machine, a frequency energy machine that can reverse arthritis.
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And I'm kind of like skeptical, going, well, I'm a rocket scientist.
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I don't know if that's true or not, but it's my dog, so I'll I'm gonna go dive in and look into this technology.
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So that that's how I learned about it.
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And then I just saw that you know, what it could do for a lot of different conditions, particularly PTSD was the first one, and it just kind of made me angry that this technology wasn't available to everyone.
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And you know, it's being held hostage in a clinical environment, a couple states away, or it's too expensive for most people.
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So I kind of set out to naively go build a little simple device that would be a pocket-sized one that would be affordable.
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True.
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I agree.
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So, like um, was there a single turning point that made you realize that this is where I need to dedicate my energy?
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Yeah, just back to the PTSD as a starters.
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It's uh, you know, in the United States, we have 44 suicides a day, 22 military veterans, 15 first responders, five medical workers, two active duty, and that's not counting all uh civilians.
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So it's just in my mind was criminal to have a technology that can stop somebody from killing themselves, and they don't have access to it.
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So that's that's the first one we went after.
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We have today the largest PMF PTSD study in the world, and we have a 98% success rate, which is just mind-boggling.
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I mean, no medication or drug touched that.
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So that was the real motivator that got it started.
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We've anxiety, blood sugar, back pain, neck pain, uh AFib.
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We've now discovered that device can help with.
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Um, so there's a lot of those things, and we're doing studies, as many as we can afford to go do to go continue and prove that it works in these areas.
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But and we get surprised, right?
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We get surprised by customers who say, hey, I did this for such and such, and it helped.
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I'm like, never would have known it could do that.
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So it's that's happening.
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I had three doctors um last year all tell me in the same week, which was odd.
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It's like, hey, this thing's really kicking butt for MS.
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And I go, muscular sclerosis?
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And they're like, yes.
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And I go, well, I don't have a protocol for that.
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I go, what are you using?
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Fibromyalgia because it's nerve-related?
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And they went, Yep.
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So you can bridge it to go do a lot of other things too as well.
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It's it's it's pretty interesting.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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I agree.
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And um, I love that because it shows how skills from one domain can open entirely new possibilities in another, like when guided by the purpose.
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So that's really amazing.
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Um, so like I teach a whole thing among those things called this business topology, and there's a thing called TRIS, T-R-I-Z.
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It's a Russian acronym that stands for roughly the theory of inventive problem solving.
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And one of the premises it's called TRIS, right?
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One of the premises is like somebody somewhere has already solved your problem.
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Yeah, you just need to apply it to your condition.
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So this guy, his name was Henrik Altschuler in the 50s, a Russian engineer, and he went trying to find procedures and processes for creativity, couldn't find any, so he did it on his own.
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And he went and looked at uh at the time it was 350,000 patents.
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The communities now looked at millions of them, and said, What's how were these things solved?
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And shockingly, they all fell within into one of 40 different categories.
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Okay, so everything's been solved by one of these 40 categories.
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For example, number one is segmentation.
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How do you break it in pieces to make it do what you need to do?
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Taking out is number two.
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All right, number three is local quality, you're using something that is specific to the environment that it's in.
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So all those things called business topology or TRIZ, as you can look at.
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Um I'll give you an example.
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I mean, I mean maybe a kick out of this.
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It's like, so, you know, a think tank hired me to literally design a new light bulb.
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Okay.
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So they paid me a bunch of money for one week to go.
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And I said, all right.
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So what it was is an LED light, and the problem was trying to cool it, right?
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Because it was putting out so much heat.
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So in the world of TRIS, if you look at a higher level, back up a step and say, I'm not trying to do a better light bulb.
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I'm trying to find a way to cool electronics without a fan or cool electronics without a motor.
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So I just went to Google Patents, typed that in.
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It showed me a design on a computer.
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I copied that design, just applied it to the light bulb.
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Now, I didn't tell a guy I did that in 20 minutes.
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I went and played golf the rest of the week because he's not going to pay me, you know, what he paid me to just do two minutes.
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And I came back on Friday, I said, I've worked on this all week.
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Um, here you go.
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And he was just ecstatic because we had a brand new design literally for a light bulb.
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Wow.
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So, like uh, do you have said that the future of medicine is in the frequencies?
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So, for listeners who may not be familiar, if you can uh explain in simple terms like what resonance frequency therapy is and why it matters.
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Yeah, you kind of look at it at a higher level, is look at energy transfer.
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Nothing in the world happens without energy transfer.
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I mean, we don't we don't breathe oxygen, we don't drive our cars or the gasoline, we don't walk and burn calories, you don't fall down and hurt yourself, you don't do any of these, you don't get a cavity filled, right, without a drill and energy exchange.
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So energy can be transferred to the body through electrical current, magnetic fields, light, vibration, or sound.
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So you can transfer any of those ways.
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Um, what we know is that your cells in your body have an electrical charge on them, like a battery.
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And when that voltage gets low, you get sick.
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So it increases the charge on the cells' batteries at the membrane level with the higher voltage, allows good stuff to get in the cell and waste products to get out.
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So it increases the voltage on the cells, it increases ATP.
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Idatosine triphosphate, which is the number one fuel that your bodies use for energy, up to 500%.
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So it's recharging cells' batteries, it's giving your body the cells the food it needs, so your body can do what it does best, which is heal itself.
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So that's it at the there's a lot of other theories on how it works, but that is it at the highest level that you can you know show and prove with with biomarkers and blood analysis and those types of things.
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Exactly.
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Wow.
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So uh and how does the vive actually work with the body at a certain level?
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Well, what it's doing is so it's transferring energy, like I just said, which frequencies it use all came.
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So it's using frequency pairs.
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They're not an exact frequency, and not just one frequency.
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So picture a frequency pair like a chord on a guitar, and the protocols are songs.
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So the frequency pair is changing every one to four minutes, and they're all different for each each protocol.
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Where it comes from, unfortunately, around the turn of the century, the 1900s, Nikolai Tesla, a bunch of other people were doing stimulation with with electrical signals and electrical energy, and then Dale Carnegie and Rockefeller screwed it up.
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Rockefeller owned all the oil in the country, he owned standard oil, and he figured how his team figured out how to make drugs out of oil.
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And him and Carnegie basically owned the medical landscape as far as licensing and funding universities and all of that.
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So they basically said, hey, if it's not, if it's not surgery or drugs, we're gonna pull your license and we're gonna not fund the universities anymore.
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So in the United States, unfortunately, it got dropped.
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We're about a hundred years behind from the rest of the world.
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We're catching up fast.
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But if you picture chords on a guitar and the protocols being songs, just picture a pickup band, right?
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You know, of kids in a garage.
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They're making it up, right?
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You add a song here, you put in a horn here, you change the lyrics a little bit, make your voice raspy here, you change the song, and that's exactly where they came, most of them came from, is 8,000 practitioners over 35 years in writing songs, right?
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You try this on a patient, you add a little bit of this, add some 40 hertz frequency or some 80 hertz, and take out 120 and see if it helps or made it better or worse.
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And that's how they've most of them have been developed.
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Exactly.
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Wow.
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So, like um, okay, I mean it's really fascinating because the idea that our bodies are not just biochemical, but also electromagnetic systems that can be tuned.
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So that's amazing.
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So also like uh yeah, to that point, to that point, our bodies are chemical, mechanical, and electrical, and it's insane to get rid of any one of those three when you're trying to treat something, right?
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If you take the electrical part out of the equation, you're not treating the whole person.
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I agree, I totally agree.
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Yeah, so like um uh traditional wellness approaches often rely on the medication or you can say the invasive treatments.
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So your device is portable, right?
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So drug-free and non-invasive.
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So what do you see as the biggest advantages of this kind of wellness technology?
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You just said it.
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It's it's portable, it's simple, it's simple to use, it's affordable, and most important, it's affordable, right?
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So, you know, PM, uh a beamer mat, if you go out man on the street and you ask somebody, hey, have you ever heard of PMF?
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About one out of 15 people in the US is gonna say yes, unless you're a horse owner, because 100% of the horse owners know what it is.
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But um, and so the a beamer mat's gonna know what you're gonna know that from a chiropractor or whatever or a spa.
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And like, what's the difference between yours and a beamer mat?
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Well, okay, it's one piece instead of seven.
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It's 152 times smaller, it's 25 times more affordable because a beamer mat's about$7,000 for the starter, right?
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So it's just it's out of most people's price range.
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So that is the biggest difference.
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It's portable.
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I forget I'm even running a protocol.
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I always sometimes I'll reach in my pocket for my cell phone, I pull it out and I go, Oh, yeah, I was running a protocol.
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I even forgot.
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So it's and you can take it on an airplane, right?
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You can drive with it, you can do it.
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It's therapy on the go.
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Therapy on the go.
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Yeah, love that, yeah.
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And I'm very curious about so this might sound contradictory, but actually not.
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Like uh some people uh hear that frequency healing or PEMF, and think that it sounds too out there, or maybe even uh pseudoscience.
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Um, so how do you respond to those skeptics who doubt that kind of technology?
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I wrote a lie, I wrote an article for all the Facebook haters called Liar Liar Pants on Fire.
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So I said, okay.
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Okay.
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So here's all the top scams of all time: MRIs, DNA sequencing, CRISPR, radio signals, antibiotics, right?
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So I list it lists a hundred different technologies, actually it's 300 in the article, 300 technologies, 100 in each field, that were 100% impossible until they weren't.
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Until they weren't, right?
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So this is on the cuff of the same thing, I believe.
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So if you if your listeners went and researched how an MRI works, an MR in Mark's opinion, an MRI is the most magical thing ever, ever built by a human being.
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But we do a hundred, we do a million of them a year and look at the photograph.
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If you want, I'll take I'll give you my 60-second version on how an MRI works.
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Sure.
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So the protons in your body have a north and a south pole like the planet Earth, and they're all random.
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Trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions of them are random.
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Okay.
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You put somebody in an MRI machine, you hit them with 50,000 Goss, and it makes all of those protons line up like a laser.
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Okay.
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Then you literally take AM and FM radio, and depending on what part of the body you want to look at, you tune into 103.5 FM and you hit the person with radio waves.
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Or the heart's going to be a different frequency, or the blood's a different frequency, the liver's a different frequency.
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You hit them with the radio signal while you're hitting them with the magnetic field that's keeping the protons in a laser format.
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Then you turn everything off, and your body, the protons snap back to randomness, and your body releases energy, and that energy is captured by a Fourier transform machine.
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That's how you make a photograph of your heart or your liver.
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It's your body spitting energy out from a laser that was so I just explained lining up protons, hitting it with radio signals, releasing it, the energy release, and the fact that you can even capture that energy release in a high-resolution picture is the most amazing thing.
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Yep.
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Now, you can go look at anything else that's out there that you know, Arthur Clark said something, you know, significantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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And if you had your cell phone on the Mayflower or 400 years ago, what would people say that was?
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Right?
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It's like, so to all the negative people out there, I had one doctor say, Mark, PMF is not on trial here.
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If anyone thinks it's on trial, they haven't done their homework.
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So if you go to Pub PubMed and type in PMF, you'll find 6,000 published articles on PubMed or NIH.
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There's 35,000 published papers that have been on this technology.
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NASA has used it since the 1970s for bone density because you can't stay on the space station, you can't do long-term space travel, you certainly can't get to Mars without this technology.
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Wow.
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Wow, lovely.
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So, like um uh what kind of scientific research or evidence helps validate the effectiveness of the uh and the safety of BMF.
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Well, I mean, like I said, there's 35,000 published papers out there on it.
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We my company personally, we've done the PTSD study where we did you know questionnaires before and after.
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We're looking at heart rate variability to do some blood work on it, but you can afford.
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Um, we did a study on our the other device that we have that came out a couple months ago is a it's called VegaVibe.
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It's a pendant that you wear around your neck near the heart.
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We did a third-party independent study on that that showed with one out a one-hour session, 100% of the people had an improvement in in heart rate variability, reduction in stress and blood pressure and and blood, you know, and heart rate, and just feeling of general well-being and a bunch of other things.
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So the safety issue part of it, like I just said, is put in perspective, our device puts out nine to ten Goss, nine on the vibe, 12 on the vegabyte.
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An MRI that I just described to you is 50,000 Goss.
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And nobody in the world, only one person, to my knowledge, has ever died from an MRI, and it's because an oxygen tank flew across the room, it wasn't tied down.
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The government has rough guidelines on energy and frequency.
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If you the analogy I use is picture a surfer waiting for a wave.
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If if a wave comes by every 20 minutes and it's only two feet high, there's not a lot of energy.
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If the wave comes by a million times a second or a hundred million times a second and it's 200 feet tall, that's a lot of energy.
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So there, you know, it's so it's the frequency times the amplitude.
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And to put it in perspective, your cell phone is a million times higher frequency than these devices, as far as the safety point of view.
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And there's guidelines with frequency versus energy level.
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And there's a, you know, the government's put out a chart and a curve, and we're far below what's what below what you know any kind of safety issues are.
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Yeah, and we this it's a very common misconception because people like they're all scared of they go, Is it put out EMF, electromagnetic fields?
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Yes, it does, but they're not the harmful kind, they're not like Wi-Fi or your cell phone, these are way less energy.
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But unfortunately, Avik, we got people that got all these EMF readers and they don't know what the hell they're even reading.
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They don't understand the technology and they put it on there and they see it does something, makes so like, oh, it's gotta be bad for you.
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No, it's not different waveforms, those types of things.
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Wow.
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So I mean stories like that really bring the science to life.
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So uh that's a critical point because uh innovation always faces the skepticism.
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But when you combine science, safety, and the results, the conversation begins to shift.
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So that is something, yeah, definitely.
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And I'll also say, like, uh, you have designed this device to be worn during the daily activities, like reading, walking, even cooking as well.
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So, uh, how do you see the future of wellness technology blending seamlessly into people's everyday lives?
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Yeah, I mean, it's this the device we have now is pretty seamless because it's in your pocket and you forget it's kind of there.
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Um, my my dream is because I said you can deliver this with light, sound, vibration, electrical current, or magnetic fields, is to be able to go, hey Alexa, run Alzheimer's in the living room and have it just run through the lights.
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And we've already built that prototype.
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The problem is the smart bulbs and stuff that a lot of people have in their homes is or any light bulb, it's designed when you turn it on to not just come on because it's too shocking to the eye.
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So it takes like a millisecond of ramping it up.
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But I got to be able to turn it on and off a thousand times a second to get the protocol to go through the light.
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And I haven't been able to get anyone, Phillips or anyone else, to call me back yet, tell me how to get around that engineering part of it.
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Um, and in the end, you the next step of that is you're not gonna tell Alexa anything, the smart, your wellness watch that we're coming out with next month.
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You're gonna have one on your wrist that tells it the lights what to go do, right?
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And you won't even see it, you won't even know what's happening.
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It's just go, you know what?
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Your blood pressure's a little high, run the blood pressure through the lights.
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I put out a challenge actually.
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So that's one thing.
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On your cell phone, most new phones, right, have a chi coil on it, right?
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That's a coil in the phone that's allowing energy to go, a magnetic energy to go into the coil to charge your battery.
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And because these are M3 MP3 files, is I want I put out an actual contest for$25,000 for somebody to solve this, was make it hack, hack the OS of the phone so that I can send the MP3 through the charging coil instead of putting power into the coil.
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You follow me?
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If I did that, you could take an app and turn air.
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That that my goal there would be to put me out of business, right?
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Is you go come up with an app that everyone's phone now becomes a therapy device.
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You don't need a vibe.
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But nobody, nobody has stepped up to the challenge of the 25k to show me how to hack a phone to do that.
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And I'm not an electrical engineer, so I don't know how to, even if I was, don't know how to hack the phone.
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But exactly.
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Hmm.
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And like um if you had to sum it up, what do you think wellness will look like?
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I mean, 10 years or 15 years from now?
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I don't know because all of us are just jaw-dropped on what AI is doing, right?
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So my next thing that I'm doing, the product coming out next month, is to take our watch that's measuring blood sugar, blood pressure, stress, heart rate variability, put it into the cloud if the if the customer chooses to, right?
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It's gonna be on a HIPAA compliant AWS medical servers.
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But the the amount of things that AI could do looking at long-term trend data and making recommendations of what to change.
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I I think giving an example, we've had three customers in the last two weeks tell us their AFib went from 97% to 2%, running the Vegas nerve.
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And I never even knew it could do anything like that.
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So I think it's just gonna be the discovery stuff of we all know we're all made out of energy.
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We're not solid, we're vibrating strings, we resonate with the strings, right?
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It's like so it's and it resonates with the water in your body, but it's um, and a few other things.
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But it I don't know what that future.
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I just described two of the things you know that I think would be really cool is reverse a phone and shove it through lights.
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Um but I beyond that, and I think everyone's in the same boat this AI, the speed of acceleration.
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I I didn't use any AI in the company, I didn't use it at all eight months ago.
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And I probably have 30 GPTs that we use to run the business, right?
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It's just a I yeah, the one device.
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I'll give you an example.
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The device that's coming out for Alzheimer's is like I I fed all the MIT research into AI and I said, hey, they just use a white light at 40 hertz.
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It was like a rope bike because I know the guy.
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So what light would you use along with PMF?
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And I go, would you use red light therapy?
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It goes, no, use blue.
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Here's why.
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And I got it goes, would you like me to give you a part number for the blue lights so you don't have to design the lights on your own?
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Yes, I would.
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Give me the light, right?
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That kind of stuff is just crazy how you can build and test stuff faster.
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Um we all need to kind of keep our foot on the power plug to kick it if we need to, but it's uh, you know, it's it's some crazy stuff.
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So I don't need, I mean, that's that that's I I see it's I don't think anyone can see what's gonna happen with that piece of it, but it's gonna be for those of our I'm 64 for those of us around, it'll be fun to watch.
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Exactly.
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Amazing.
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I mean, I really love the discussion.
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I'd say, Mark.
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I mean, thank you so much for taking us on this journey, like from irrespistanness.
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Wow, what a what a transformation, and from from rockets to resonance.
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So uh what you have shared today reminds us that innovation isn't just about the machines and the technology, but it's all about uh applying creativity and science to improve lives.
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So, for all the listeners, I'd love to say that maybe the future of medicine isn't uh locked away in a pharmacy.
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Maybe it's the frequencies all around us waiting to be tuned.
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So devices like the Vive are opening new doors to drug-free, safe, and empowering approaches to the webs.
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So if you'd like to learn more about Mark's uh walk and the vibe device, head on to Resona Health and to explore the science, stories, and the possibilities for yourself.
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And Mark, if someone wants to connect with you, what would be the great medium to connect?
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Just go to the website, like you said, is Rosona is short for residents, R-E-S-O-N-A.Health.
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There's no dot com, or they can email us infoinfo at resona.health.
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I got a team now.
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Is it was me a year and a half ago by myself.
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I got about 15 people on the team now, but they're all I got I got lucky there, dude.
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I I hired somehow by luck the best people in the world.
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They're awesome.
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Wow.
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Yeah, that that has removed an incredible amount of it's freed me up to go do some of the more stuff I want to go do, right?
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Just come up with new devices and those type of things.
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Exactly.
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Amazing, lovely.
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Great.
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So, dear listeners, what I'll do is I'll put all the links into the show notes for your easier friends.
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And until next time, this is your host of Vic, and this has been Healthy Beaves.
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So stay curious, stay innovative, and remember that the future of your health might just be humming in the frequencies of today.
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So, thank you so much.
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Thank you.
