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Welcome back to Daybreak.
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You're sitting in traffic right now.
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You're gonna really appreciate the next story that we're about to go.
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As the Lee County Commissioners meeting uh that they're uh set to have later on today uh is discussing a new one cent sales tax to fix our gridlock roads across Southwest Florida.
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Now, they have a$2 billion road shortfall inside the budget, and they're trying to figure out a way to get around that two billion dollars.
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So they are proposing a one percent sales tax increase.
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Now, that one percent could possibly generate the two maybe, you know, uh uh the two billion dollars.
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Let me tell you why.
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Because we added a half cent sales tax to the school system, and it's put in well over seven hundred million right now for school renovations and new schools and tech and all these things that it was designed for.
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By the way, that expires in two years.
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And two a it's a ten-year deal that started in two thousand and eighteen and expires in two thousand and twenty-eight, and you won't have that anymore.
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And they actually discussed on repealing it because they, you know, didn't necessarily need it during some campaign speeches.
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I heard that, but no, it's there till the end.
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And would you be willing, and I want to open up the phone lines, I want to know what your thoughts are right now.
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If they said, and you're obviously gonna get to vote on the sales tax increase, it won't be just something they're like sales tax increase.
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Would you be willing right now?
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I'm talking to everyone on Daniels, everyone on 41, everyone that is struggling through those bad parts of the roads, would you be willing to pay a one cent sales tax here in Lee County to get your it'd be Lee County only uh to get your roads and your traffic problem fixed.
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Now I um I say I don't support this because I thought you guys had it all figured out.
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I thought you had all the money and all the budget, you had all worked out.
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And and I, you know, but at the same time, it's not fair for me to say this, and let me tell you why it's not fair.
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I don't necessarily sit in traffic.
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I come in when uh most people are just waking up, and I uh I leave here when uh most people are just getting to work.
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So I um it's a process that uh, you know, I don't really have that, I don't sit in the traffic.
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I don't feel the traffic here.
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Now I will say there are times where I'm in traffic like I hate it.
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And you know, it's usually 75, and this doesn't have anything to do with 75.
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It will just have to do with the roads here in Southwest Florida and the expansion thereof.
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Uh Rob, you got it what Rob the producer, you what your thoughts?
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Would you do it?
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I mean you you live in carrier, you don't have to worry about that.
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Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't impact me, but doesn't this represent a failure of the Lee County Commission for not budgeting correctly and or not planning for the growing infrastructure that we've had?
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I mean, Lee County's been exploding for years.
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How have we only figured out the way to solve this problem is to impose additional taxes on people?
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I bet it's hard to try to budget all the money that you have in the appropriate manner that you need.
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And they recently had to make an adjustment to the budget for$800,000 for uh some election equipment and things like that.
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So you've gotta you're gonna have these things that pop up.
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Collier County's infrastructure has been well accounted for for a long time.
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And yeah, it we still have our traffic, maybe not as much as Lee County does, but I I believe that perhaps our county's doing a better job on staying ahead of that.
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I can put five people on the phone right now to tell you Collier County traffic's got issues.
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I've already had that conversation.
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All right, just so you know.
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Of course.
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Don't try don't don't try me.
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There are there are thoroughfares like Pine Ridge Road, Imokley Road, like those are busy, busy roads.
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And yeah, it'd be great to have some relief there, but generally there's not too many more places.
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Grab line two, because that's Lee County Commissioner Brian Hammond calling it as we're talking about the sales tax.
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And it's the big question.
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Like, uh do I and and I it listen, like I already said before we get on, like it's gotta be hard to balance everything you got going on.
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You got things that are popping up left and right, you gotta make adjustments too.
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The population's growing, are the taxes growing?
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Let's go ahead and get Brian.
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I never intended for this to be an interview segment, but good morning.
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Welcome to the show, Commissioner.
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How you doing today?
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Commissioner Brian Ammon from Lee County, a diehard listener.
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Who as soon as I hit it, he was like, I'm in.
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Well, so here's the here's the thing on this: uh, the sales tax question would have to go to the ballot.
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And um I think you could vote no on it.
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I think I'd be happy if you voted no on it.
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I'm not a tax raiser kind of guy at all.
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But I did want to correct a couple things that are being said.
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Okay.
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So the money that we have to build roads comes from two specific sources.
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Uh, number one is uh gas taxes, which makes about 27 million a year, and the other one is uh the uh impact fees, which is again about 30 million a year.
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So we've got 60 million a year in income, if you will, to put it in household terms, to try to pay for 2.4 billion worth of roads that we want to build.
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But they're roads that we definitely need to build.
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And so what the sales tax would do is right now, at the current budgeting with 60 million a year that goes towards roads, we would get all these roads finished by the year 2050.
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But if the sales tax were to get passed, you could probably get them done by the end of the next decade.
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And so the question is, do you want to put it on the ballot to give the voters a chance to speed up the capital improvement program, the road building program?
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Or do we not even put it on the ballot and not even give them a chance to vote on it?
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I that's I think that's the question today.
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Uh and you're gonna that's your vote, you're having that discussion today in your meeting, correct?
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Yeah, and it is just a workshop.
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There's no final decision today.
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So it's it's very possible it could die in the workshop today.
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Right.
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It is uh it is something we'll all be paying attention to, uh, to the workshop and find out where it goes, man.
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And I gotta and I said it pre uh you know, I I said it going in.
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It's gotta be difficult trying to balance things and seeing things pop up like the election where you had to uh you had you guys had to pull$800,000 to uh redirect it, and then that just makes it even harder to budget uh to balance a massive budget.
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Uh and I understand it's a process.
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I I'm not and that does that comes out of a different budget too.
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So there's there's two different budgets.
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You got a a capital budget that you have for building things, and then you have a general, like they call it general revenue budget, which basically is your everyday operating expenses budget.
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You actually budget the operating expenses are done off of the property taxes.
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If you look at our property tax rate in Lee County, we could charge up to ten dollars per thousand of taxable value, but we only charge three dollars and seventy-six cents per thousand.
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So we're really low on that property tax rate that we can because we only want to just cover the daily operations out of the property tax.
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We have the gas tax, the tolls, and the impact fees that we have do the roads and the building program, if that makes sense.
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Oh, I yeah, absolutely it makes sense.
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I totally understand what you're saying.
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Uh I and as we sit here right now, that was the question I was saying.
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Would you vote for it?
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For the one I mean, there are people right now, if I looked out the window of this studio right now, I can see hundreds of cars slammed in traffic on Daniels right now coming out of Lehigh.
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Because here in Lee County, the biggest issue is getting out of Lehigh.
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That whole coming out of East Lee is is become gridlock from every direction, what no matter what direction.
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Yeah.
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You know, another thing, too, it feels like we've had 10 years worth of people move here since the pandemic and the hurricane, really.
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Um when I first got on the board of county commissioners, they said by the year 2040 we'd hit a million people.
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Now they're saying by the year 2030 we'll hit a population of a million people.
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And so, you know, with inflation uh happening, road projects that used to cost 50 million are now 150 million.
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All right.
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And so But but Brian, let me let me let me let me let me play devil's advocate here.
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So you're already behind.
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You only got sixty million for two hundred billion dollars that you need.
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You do a sales tax, we get it approved, it goes on the ballot, you start getting that done.
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The population triples now over the next few years because Florida's growing faster, I think, than any other state in the world.
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Everybody wants to live in Florida, right?
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So as we continue to grow past this and and and the one said sales tax gets outpaced, then what do we do?
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I mean, that's the issue.
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I mean, I I I would we're we're already playing catch up.
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From what you're telling me, we're already playing catch up.
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Is is the sales tax just a band-aid on a gunshot wound?
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Well, I I don't know, and that's what I'm looking forward to discussing at the workshop today.
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Uh, you know, uh the staff has put together a pretty good presentation that shows what projects they'd be able to build and complete faster.
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I mean, some of these projects are things that right now, under the current budget pacing, they're not going to be able to build till the year 2045, 2050.
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But they said if we could get the money, you know, through the sales tax, they could they could build them in the 2030s, which, you know, would be 10 years, 20 years earlier than than what they're currently budgeted at right now.
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And so I think that's the question is do you want to give voters a chance to say, yeah, we'd like to vote on this, or we'd like to have this, or no, we're good with the status quo, just build it when you can with the money that you have.
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What are we doing?
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So again, what are we building with the sixty million dollars that we have now?
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What'll be next?
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What's gonna be the thing that's that 60 million is going to that we have right now?
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The next big thing which will relieve Colonial and Daniels, it's called the Aleco Road extension.
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We are building that, we're funding that.
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That is a project that is happening with or without the sales tax.
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That that is, we're gonna buy some land for that today, for the right-of-way, but it's gonna take a leco and connect it up to State Road 82 around Sunshine and Lehigh Acres.
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It's gonna provide a third way for people to leave Lehigh Acres and head south.
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It should take a lot of traffic off of Colonial and Daniels.
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All right, you go.
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Uh, which people will definitely be thankful for, I'm sure.
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Well, Commissioner uh Brian Hammond, thank you so much for joining us today on the show.
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Uh it's been uh I I didn't expect it, but uh it it was uh enlightening.
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And nonetheless, I always know you're gonna call in if I talk about the county.
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Commissioners, you'll call instantly every time.
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I know it already.
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I saw it coming in.
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You're and you're the best, man.
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And I want to listen to what the callers say because if they don't want to even see it on the ballot, I want to know that because I don't even want to put it on the ballot then.
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All right.
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I we're well from your mouth to the listeners' ears, let's do it right now.
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Hey, you heard them right now.
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Uh 239-479-5592.
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I'm gonna open up the phone lines.
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Would you vote yes or no on a 1% say a 1% sales tax increase to get your roads fixed quicker?
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Right from Brian Hammond's mouth.
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We'll discuss it next on Daybreaker 925 Fox News.
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925 Fox News.
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Right, all along.
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Well, this is Daybreaker 925 Fox News.
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We just got off the phone with Brian Hammond, who says he wants to know what the l what what the listeners, what all of you are thinking right now when it comes to a 1% sales tax increase on uh uh your sales tax for better roads quicker.
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Uh we'll start with Carl.
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Carl, uh sales tax, what do you say?
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Yes or no?
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You gonna vote for it?
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Absolutely not.
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Um I own a building lot up in Cape Coral, so I do have some skin in this game, uh, especially with all the infrastructure.
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They lowered the impact fees about 10 years ago.
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They could have collected like another 400 million dollars, but they let the builders off because they wanted to get building going.
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What they what they're saying is we must use two billion dollars of your money, so why don't you give us another two billion dollars?
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Uh, and we'll complete this project in the next 10 to 30 years.
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That two billion is gonna end up being 20 billion.
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I believe that they have to sit down for some short campaigns and we need to be caught and learn how to spend our money correctly, rather than just pushing it away and then coming back to the people and going, Oh, it's just a penny here.
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What happens next?
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Another penny over here?
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I say no.
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Like a household budget, we tell the federal government you can't just keep spending willy-nilly.
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You have to get your house in order.
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And I think these local governments have to get their house in order before they ask us for any more money.
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Oh, well, there you go, Carl.
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Thanks for calling in and being on the show.
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I appreciate you.
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Let's grab Scott from Fort Myers.
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Go ahead, Scott, what do you say?
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I say no.
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Carl's right on.
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Spot on.
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There you go.
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You're like, Carl said everything I need to say, so I say no too, right?
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You're on you're right there with him.
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They've been talking about this illegal road extension for 15 years, and he says we're gonna go buy the uh property today.
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I mean, that seems a little ridiculous.
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Right, we're just now getting the property built.
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Like, I thought we were done this a long time ago.
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I appreciate you calling in.
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Thanks for being on the show.
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All right, let's go now.
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I've got a ton of callers.
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I want to try to get everybody's opinion.
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Jordan from Lehigh, yes or no?
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1% sales tax increase for better roads faster.
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Hey, good morning, Jason.
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Um, I'm no.
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Uh I always feel the government always reaches their hand out instead of looking inward.
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Um, I'm not for any tax increase unless they ought there's an audit to see where the current funds are going.
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You know, it's always so easy to say, hey, give me more rather than figure out what's going on.
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So you're saying you're saying bring Blaze and Goglia to town, let him do a full-blown audit on you, and then if it's all clear and we know what's going on, if it's all transparent and we see it, then we'll go ahead and give you the one percent.
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That's what your your stand is.
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Yes.
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All right, all right.
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Yeah, that's that's where I'm at on it.
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All right, there you go.
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I appreciate you.
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Thanks for calling in.
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All right, 239-479-5592 is the phone number.
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Uh, I've got who I got here, Joe.
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Joe from Fort Myers.
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Go ahead, Joe.
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Mine's not just a no, it's a hell no.
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When I bought my first house here brand new in 2000 or 21 years ago, I paid over$10,000 in impact fees.
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Now they're 25% of that.
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They never brought them back up to where they should be.
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So I completely agree with Carl.
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Bring the impact fees back.
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Let the new construction pay for the roads and the infrastructure that they are creating the need for.
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Right.
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You believe that maybe they're catering to these builders instead of catering to the taxpayer.
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100%.
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I work for a builder, and I know that's what they're catering to.
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All right.
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Right there, Fry from the horse's mouth.
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I appreciate you.
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Thanks for calling in and being on the show.
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A lot of people seem to feel the same way on this here, uh uh, Commissioner Hammond.
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Mark from uh Fort Myers, go ahead.
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Yes or no on this tax?
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Absolutely hell no.
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Once you give them anything, you never get it back.
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And I can use the Cape Coral Bridge as a prime example when they said, Oh, this is gonna be a temporary uh fee every time you cross the bridge until it's paid off.
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That was how many years ago?
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Right.
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We need and then we then we gotta re- then we gotta repair it and rebuild it, and that just extends that fee even longer.
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It's a forever toll.
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They're not gonna let that go away.
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They like that income.
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All right.
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I appreciate it.
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Don't give them a dime.
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Don't give them a dime.
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Uh doesn't look like it would pass if it got put on the ballot so far.
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Uh Jane from Cape Coral, go ahead.
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You're on day break.
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Jane, thoughts?
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Uh no.
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And like the last caller was saying, we are supposed to be.
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We, you know, that was supposed to be temporary again.
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No.
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And plus, what about the wages for the employees that no longer are on the bridge?
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And they get fees for when you go through and you don't have a pass.
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This is absolutely crazy.
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We'll never get our money back.
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They need to learn how to budget like all of us do.
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All right.
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I appreciate you, Jay.
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Thanks for calling in.
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We do have somebody who says yes.
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It's Chris.
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Uh, she's in traffic right now, but she's in Naples.
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But if you lived in Fort Myers, you uh in Lee County, you would say yes.
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I do live in uh cero, actually.
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Okay, all right.
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And I would uh yeah, I would say yes, but then I would vote the commissioners out of their seats.
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And the reason for that is the amount of um impact fees that they've left on the table over the past decade or so.
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And the second reason is Brian Hammond just illustrated his ineptitude by indicating that he would vote according to the comments made on your radio show.
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Like that's a real sampling of what the voters feel in Lee County.
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It's pretty good.
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Pretty good sampling.
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It doesn't seem to be you might be the only one that's called in today to say yes.
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Yeah, well, it's the most conservative radio talk show in the county, which is why I listen to it.
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I'm a conservative.
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I love it.
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I love you too.
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Thanks for having me.
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But it's cutting it's cutting off your nose despite your face to vote no because you're mad at the commissioners.
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Right.
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Uh at the same time, but to vote no because you want that, you want those impact fees raised back and taking a, you know, basically make the builders pay for the fees that they're actually uh incurring.
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I appreciate you calling in.
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I only got about a minute left.
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I got a lot of calls.
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I want to try to grab a couple more.
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All right, let's grab James from Cape Coral.
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Uh yes or no on this.
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I don't believe in uh raising the taxes, but I work on highways and bridges.
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And the bad thing about it is that once they decide they want to build a bridge or widen a road, it's about a 10 to 15 year process.
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By the time they're done, it's outdated.
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Because by the time they acquire the land, by the time they put it out uh for bids and everything else, it's 10 to 15 years, and now it's obsolete.
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Uh, you're right, absolutely.
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Thanks for calling in and being on the show.
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Let's gonna wrap up this.
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I gotta get ready.
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Coming up next, uh, I am going to welcome a guest to the show here.
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His name is uh Charles Patty.
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He is an expert when it comes to psychedelics as he runs academy clinics, and we'll talk more about President Trump's new executive order and what it could do.
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Uh for the city.
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On 925 Fox News right on log.
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Now, yesterday you heard Trump make uh uh an announcement and an EO on executive order on psychedelics.
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Today please do announce historically called to dramatically external medical research and treatment based on psychedelic growth in many cases.
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These experimental treatments have shown life-changing potential for those suffering from severe mental illness and depression, including our characterist veterans.
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Our veterans are having a committed hard time.
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You know, these tourists may have it down a little bit, but they are having a hard time.
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Today uh I've decided to go one-on-one with somebody.
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I would say it's probably been two years now.
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Uh, I met this guy.
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His name was Charles Patty.
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Well, his name is Charles Patty.
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He's the owner of Myself Wellness.
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He joined us in the studio this morning.
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Charles, good morning.
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Welcome to Daybreak.
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How are you doing today, buddy?
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I'm doing great.
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Thanks for having me, Jason.
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So when I met this guy, he started telling me about a ketamine clinic.
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And I even looked at him and was like, is that legal?
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Like, are you doing something illegal that you're trying to tell me about?
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I can't be involved in you.
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Get away from me, man.
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I'm gonna go to jail.
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Uh it's not.
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It's actually FDA approved.
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It's a psychamine is a psychedelic of sorts, right?
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Am I correct when I say that?
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Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.
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Well, so it's a dissociative anesthetic, and it was FDA approved in 1970 as an anesthetic, but people use it off label for mental health and psychedelic therapy.
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All right.
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And and inside that, they're able to uh what happens when you use it for a psychedelic mental health therapy?
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What does it treat and what does ketamine do?
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So it actually treats depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder, substance abuse issues, and it does a lot of neurological healing to the brain.
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Also, because it's a dissociative, when we get into a disassociated state, the mind separates from the body and it removes the active blocks that are holding past repressed traumatic experiences so we can really process, release them, and let them go.
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And is it just is there a process like that goes with this, or is someone just take the medicine and it it works?
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Like is that I mean, is there like, all right, is there somebody like talking to you while you're under, or is it a process where you just take the medicine and it works?
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So there are two different kinds of ketamine therapy.
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You have psycholytic, which is when a therapist would talk to you while you're on the medicine, or psychedelic, when you do a therapeutic dose.
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And it's not just about the medicine.
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I mean, there's a medical intake, a psychiatric evaluation, and then as cliche as it sounds, if nothing changes, nothing changes.
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So you can go in and have these kind of experiences and get kind of symptom relief, but then it's all about healthy lifestyle changes, and that's a really thing that we preach very much.
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Aaron Ross Powell With that being said, what were your thoughts when you heard what Trump just said with the executive order and all these other types of things getting ready to be like ibogaine being able to be uh tested and one day maybe be approved?
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Aaron Powell So this is the biggest thing that's happened in the psychedelic movement in forever.
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I mean, this is it.
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This is like, you know, the actual recognition that That these molecules and medicines actually have medicinal purposes.
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Unfortunately, up to this point, all hallucinogens have been Schedule One, which means they have no medicinal properties.
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But this is going to fast track and reroute that.
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Could this possibly, if it got fast tracked and rerouted, could it possibly be become something that uh like a medical marijuana that I could go buy somewhere?
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Well, so like for I I mean, I I'm about to ask.
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I don't know.
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I'm asking.
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Yeah, so like I don't see it like that.
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These medicines really need to be taken under medical supervision.
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So in clinics that would be offering these kind of therapies.
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Like your clinic would be offer this type of therapy.
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You also have a research company tied to psychedelics as well, right?
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Yeah, so we have in a company called Eleusis, it's EleusisMind.com, and basically we have a research license in the Caribbean to utilize every psychedelic molecule in the world.
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Right.
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And which one do you think is the most powerful psychedelic molecule, the one that can really change lives?
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So I am a huge fan of NNDMT.
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I think that's the one.
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I didn't see that on these list of things, so that's not on there, right?
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So and what is the difference?
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What is that?
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So NNDMT is actually the psychoactive ingredient you would find in ayahuasca, and it's a very, very safe molecule.
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And what does it what could it heal?
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So it does neural regeneration, neurological healing to the brain.
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It's helping people process traumas.
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And so the thing that's different about NNDMT and Ibogaine is like you could it usually lasts 10 to 15 minutes.
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We're actually using an extended state protocol, which you could keep somebody in a peak breakthrough state on the medicine for up to an hour at a time.
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And the thing is that Ibogaine is like 16 to 17 hours long.
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So I'm a huge fan of Ibogaine.
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I'm a huge fan of all of the psychedelic medicines, but I think that NNDMT is going to be the one that has a place clinically because of the duration.
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What do you say to those that this is just hippies trying to get more drugs approved so we can do free drugs and do drugs everywhere?
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I mean, how we can just all turn into hippies and what would you say to those people?
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I mean, listen, like psychedelic medicines saved my life.
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And so, you know, I went from a substance abuse background where I had troubles throughout my life, and using psychedelic medicines therapeutically, I actually ended up getting sober and changing my life.
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So tell me a little bit about that.
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You were you were addicted to uh a substance, alcohol, or what were you what were you addicted to?
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Severely addicted to opiates.
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So so you severely?
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Yes.
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And who introduced you to uh a psychedelic therapy?
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It was kind of like it was led into my life by God in a way.
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And I I quit my opiate addiction from an NN DMT experience.
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Oh, really?
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Just one experience?
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Yeah, it was it was incredibly profound, and I basically got this message that I was supposed to quit doing what I was doing, get my life together, and I was supposed to help people heal.
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Now, most people would say that it takes willpower.
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You're saying that the willpower was automatically instilled by your use of psychedelics.
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No, so I preach psychedelic medicines as a catalyst.
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It gives you the opportunity to grab the reins of your own life so you can propel forward in the right direction.
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But now it's about actually using discipline to like meditate, do breath work, go to the gym, hit the sauna, eat incredibly healthy, lifestyle changes that can be locked in with neuroplasticity that's happening from these medicines.
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So it but what if someone just made those life changes without the psychedelics?
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They could potentially also fix their problem as well, right?
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Yeah, no, for sure.
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But I, you know, at the same time, like the just doing that isn't going to cause neurological healing to the brain.
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Whenever we've had any kind of traumatic experiences in our life or just through the course of life, our neuropathways get damaged.
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And when the neurons are trying to flow through these pathways, they bounce off the interior walls, which can cause a lot of the symptoms of depression, anxiety, and PTSD.
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Ketamine and other psychedelic molecules are actually going in and literally remapping and restructuring the neuropathways in the brain and sprouting something called new dendrites off of them.
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This is causing new neuroplasticity, new neuroconnections in the brain.
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It also gets the brain creating more dopamine naturally, which makes people feel really, really good.
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Uh if you're just tuning in right now, we're on uh in studio with uh Charles Patty.
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He is the owner of Myself Wellness, which is a premier academy clinic right here in uh uh Southwest Florida.
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And uh when I met him, we we discussed this whole process, and uh it but it's not can like members of like law enforcement or first responders or people can they also get these treatments now?
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Because a lot of them, like you know, you can't be a first responder and be on medical marijuana.
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Can you also be a free could do you have any stories of first responders as well?
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So I a hundred percent.
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And the thing is is that cannabis is not federally legal, but ketamine is FDA approved as an anesthetic, and so we get to use it off label for mental health.
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Right.
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And so, like one in five medications on the market are being used off label.
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But we treat active duty police officers, firefighters.
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I actually had a police officer recently tell me that psychedelic therapy made him a better police officer because it gave him more empathy for people.
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I also had a DEA officer that used to run task force to specifically arrest people for psychedelics, now screaming from the rooftops that psychedelic therapy saved his life.
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Wow, that is um it's weird to think that.
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Like you when you think the the evolution of what's happening, like everything that was, you know, so bad, uh, you know, you think of like MDMA in the 2000, like that's one of the ones on this list.
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I mean, that's ecstasy.
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In 2000, people were making this in their basement, in their bad, in their bedrooms, in their garages, selling it in nightclubs, people falling over dead on these things, driving off of cliffs, all kinds of crazy stuff from this.
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And now we're saying that there is a medicinal use for this?
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So MAPS actually did a clinical study on MDMA for severe PTSD.
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And 66.7 or two-thirds of the people that went through this study actually had their PTSD diagnosis removed, meaning it literally took the PTSD away from them.
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Wow, that's uh that's the the the potential for these psychedelics sounds uh amazing.
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Uh what about the risk?
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What are the risks of these psychedelics?
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Not being supported properly and not doing this with people that are actually educated.
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See, it's not just about the psychedelic experience or these healing sessions, it's also about integration, meaning sitting down with like a therapist or somebody that's qualified to help you process the actual experiences.
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And and uh and that's what you do at MySelf Wellness, right?
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Yeah, we have integration specialists, a psychiatrist.
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I mean, and like, you know, even like out at Eleusis in the Caribbean, we have started with the DMTX protocol.
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And so basically you could think of this as medically supervised ayahuasca with research grade medicine that's being supported with, you know, an anesthesiologist, psychiatrist, etc.
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I I have a friend who's a Navy SEAL who left the country to go do that.
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Like he left the country three times to do three different psychological treatment or uh psychedelical treatments to get past addiction and PTSD, that he had PSD, obviously, from his service and addiction because he had pain and Adderall flow pain medication Adderall flowing through his body when he got back here, and he just could not get it out, like he couldn't stop taking it.
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And then now he's as clean as it gets and looks as healthier as I've ever seen him.
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Like he is just a a strong man, and it it's really thankful to those treatments that he went over there.
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So when I saw this, as well as I knew you, and I was we've had this conversation before, you and I, pieces of this conversation.
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I've learned a little bit today.
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Uh, and and then his story as a as a first person account because him and I have talked one-on-one about that experience, because I have many friends who have had uh the DMT experience and have gone through it if had who had it who have told those stories to me.
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And uh and I I it it just kind of it blows me away as we're sitting here, Charles, that once again we have the potential of finding new medicine that could get your addiction fixed.
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:53.559
Now, here's my question, and I said this yesterday when I was driving home, and I'm gonna bring it to you.
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Isn't Big Pharma gonna fight back against this?
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I mean, to take away the addiction of opioids, they make millions of dollars of opioids.
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Uh I mean, aren't they gonna fight back on this?
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Well, so the thing is is that the medicines that are gonna get ended up or end up being used are most likely gonna be synthetic, and pharmaceutical companies will get their play in it.
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You know, the only one that's really not happening like that is ketamine in a way, just because it's already FDA approved.
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But when these molecules go through, like MDMA will be going through FDA approval for PTSD treatment, and so it'll be covered by insurance, pharmaceutical companies will be producing the molecules, and so Big Pharma will be back in the equation.
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They'll be back in the equation.
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And you know what's uh you you bring up something that I've always thought.
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These companies that make these pain pills should say, we're going to change direction.
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We're gonna make a pill that gets you off of the pain pills, and if you want to deal with pain, come up with a more natural way.
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Because the pain pills have always the opioids are the biggest problem in this country uh when it comes to drug addiction.
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I mean, we all, I mean, this is the pill mill capital of the world.
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We're in it right now.
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It was massive.
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They made movies about it.
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It was that big, and there are many of our loved ones that struggled through the hard way of addiction, of getting a cold turkey and breaking a sweat and going through the process of uh throwing up and shivering for 14 days.
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And and this is this will assist that.
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:17.079
This will what if somebody comes to you and they're full blown out on opioids and they get on this?
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Well, do they does the with does it help with withdrawal?
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So, like Ibogaine is doing amazing thing for opiate addiction, but so is ketamine.
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We literally take people that are actively addicted to fentanyl, and with a little bit of Suboxin, which is an opiate blocker, which takes about three days to help them detox a little bit, and six ketamine treatments, we can have somebody completely off fentanyl and feeling amazing within three weeks.
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Is that that's the three weeks?
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The six treatments will take about three weeks?
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Two times a week over a three-week period.
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All right.
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And how long is the the the session to do something like that?
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Well, the session's like these are all going to be pretty much when when this if this pops, if it pops, this is what you're gonna see everywhere.
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You're gonna be able to go down the road and find a clinic to to deal with your PTSD, to deal with your addiction and get a a treatment uh of of ibogain, if you will.
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Yeah, I mean, and like, you know, that that is hopefully where the future is heading.
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But like, you know, if somebody's looking for, you know, a DMT therapy that's medically supervised or something like that, they could always go out to a Lucis in the Caribbean right now, legally.
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Right.
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And a lot of people are still doing that.
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They're they're they're that's what they do until this happens uh because they can't find any other way uh to to uh to battle what they're hearing.
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And a lot of people do their own research, they find out about this.
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It's how I was able to uh uh to get you on the show.
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I mean, a lot to discuss, man.
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Charles, listen, I'm out of time.
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Charles Patty, my self-wellness, thank you very much for coming in and give me the uh the update and the incredible amount of information on psychedelics.
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It's next level.
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This podcast is going to be listened to by more people than anybody else on our podcast.
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:49.079
We've got the College of Political Knowledge now, though.
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How would you like to win a$30 gift card to Duncan and get a degree in the College of Political Knowledge?
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239-479-5592 is the phone number.
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We'll do it next on day break.
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925 Fox News.
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Welcome to the College of Political Knowledge, where we major in facts, not feelings.
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And the only pronouns we care about are we the people.
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Classes in session on 925 Fox News.
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Right all along.
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.359
All right, it's time now to get our contestant on the phone.
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Let's get Craig from Cape Coral.
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Craig, good morning.
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:31.960
Welcome to Daybreak.
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How you doing today, Craig?
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:35.159
Hey, Jason, how you doing today?
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I'm doing fantastic.
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I think it's going to be a wonderful, positive day for everybody out there.
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I just try to put that out there.
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What do you got going on today, Craig?
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Anything exciting?
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Not a whole lot.
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When I say Craig, don't get fired on your day off, do you know what that means?
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Fired up or fired?
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Fired.
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Don't get fired on your day off.
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Do you know what that means by any chance?
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Don't do psychedelics and go to work.
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There you go.
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Way to tie it into our last segment.
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All right, let's get you started.
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See if I can get you a$30 gift card to Duncan, where Southwest Florida runs on Duncan and gets you a degree in political knowledge.
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Here you go.
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:10.840
Question number one.
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What program helps poor families buy food for their kids as long as it isn't sugary or alter-processed?
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I guess it'd be the welfare program.
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No SNAP or food stamps would have been accepted.
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Uh wick and all that.
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Women and children.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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You're alright, though.
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Let's see.
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We're still working on it.
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What government agency gathers secret information from other countries?
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:43.400
I'd be like a Pizza Faza uh uh CIA.
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NSA?
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Oh, you know what?
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I'll take NSA.
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I'll take NSA.
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I'll give him that one.
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:47.559
All right.
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All right, we'll take that.
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There we go.
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We'll take it.
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You've got an associate's degree.
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Uh it's CIA, but I would also have taken NSA.
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They different realms, if you will.
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Uh question number three.
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How many electoral votes does Florida have for picking the president?
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Four.
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30 would have been the correct answer.
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It's all right.
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We're still in the game here.
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Here we go.
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All right.
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Question number four.
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What building in Washington, D.C.
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is shaped like a large circle, uh, houses the National Archives, and is a place where you can see the body of a deceased U.S.
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president lying in state.
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Uh, the rotunda.
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Boom, boy, you got yourself a bachelor's degree in a$30 gift card to Duncan.
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Congratulations.
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:40.599
Southwest Florida runs on Duncan, and you have got hooked up, Craig.
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:42.599
Thanks for hanging out with us today, buddy.
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I appreciate it.
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.840
And like you said, take it easy on the psychedelics.
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It's just taking one drug and replacing another.
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Right.
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Well, if but if it can you don't have to stay on one to get off, like you understand, you don't have to do it forever.
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It's not like that.
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It's a treatment that cures you in six treatments.
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That's a fact.
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Look it up.
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All right, hold on.
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I don't want to get into that discussion anymore.
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:06.920
I don't I don't have another hour for that.
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:14.199
You guys will get me all fired up, and I've got so many other things to discuss, especially about how great it is to be a redhead.
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:18.519
We'll discuss that coming up next hour, plus so much more in the third hour of daybreak.
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And don't forget, tomorrow, 7 a.m., tune in as our congressional conversations continue.
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Jim Obenwise will join us here in Studio Running for Congress in Southwest Florida, uh, and we'll have a one-on-one with him.
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:38.039
He's number three of our congressional conversations, and uh we'll be joined by him tomorrow uh at 7 a.m.
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:43.800
Where do I want to go next?
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:44.679
I just don't even know.
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There's so much.
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Let's go to the UK and have some fun, shall we?
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They don't seem to like Starmer anymore.