Ancient Underground Civilizations! What's Hiding Underground?

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Welcome everybody to Connecting the Universe. I'm author and researcher
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Mike Ricksecker back at you out of the secret library
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of the Connected Universe. Well, we have a favorite topic
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that we are going to be covering this evening. Lost
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ancient underground civilizations. Yes, they are out there. They exist.
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This isn't even pseudoscience. We're actually going to get into
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the science, the archaeology of it all, all the evidence
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that backs up what we are talking about. And it's
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just a really, really fascinating topic because there are so
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many things that are hidden underground. And now the day
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goes by that something isn't dug up to show us
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another piece of our ancient past. So we're going to
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be getting into a lot of these different things this evening.
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And even as I start the show, here's Cat Daddy
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down here. in the chat, from the sands of Egypt
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to the soil of America, the truth is just below
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our feet. And yes, during this episode, we will be
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going to both Egypt and America and other places. So
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we will be covering quite a few things, but do
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want to let those know before we get into the
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show this evening. Those that are listening to the podcast
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for the after show this evening, which is a members
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special that we do here just after our live stream show,
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we're going to be covering. This will be fun. I
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made a post here on social media today. I was
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doing my Mike's morning mug and something showed up in
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my feed with some wonderful quotes from J.R.R. Tolkien. And
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so we will be covering basically Tolkien's take. on ancient
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underground civilizations so that'll be a lot of fun uh
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huge lord of the rings fan you can't tell with
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like this whole lord of the rings collection behind me
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right even like all the histories of middle earth are
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back there which is uh incredible so um yeah see
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a number of people coming uh down into the chat
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d smith is in the house um Valerie Candleferry, thank
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you for joining us this evening. Of course, there's Cat Daddy.
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Shout out to our moderator, Indiana Jones, Mr. Trevor Grassi. Yeah,
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you'll be seeing a little bit of Trevor in this
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particular episode as well. Diana Dawn has joined us as well.
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And I do want to go ahead and toss this
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up there, our our supporters on a variety of different
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platforms between YouTube, Connecting Universe Portal, Patreon, the blog, which
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I know I haven't updated the blog in a while.
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I've been really working on getting that final, final, final
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stages post-production for the Stargates of Ancient Egypt film. So
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some things have gone a little bit on the back
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burner for now, but I do appreciate all the support
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from everybody. So, Without further ado, let's go ahead and
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get into it. Again, this is quite a favorite topic
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of mine. Now, when we talk about ancient underground civilizations,
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one of the first things that we kind of have
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to ask ourselves is, why? Why did they go underground?
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What was the purpose for digging out these elaborate places?
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And yes, many of them are elaborate. Digging out these
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elaborate places underground. Humans, for the most part, hang out
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on the surface of the earth. So what would have
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been the cause for people burrowing underground, doing something that's
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really not so much in their nature to do? Well,
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a lot of different reasons. We're going to get into
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some of these different things. But the first one that
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we are going to start with is the last pole flip.
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And you will hear a lot of talk these days
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about when the next pole flip might happen. We really
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don't know. We do have the magnetic North Pole that
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is shifting across the Earth. And this is a recent
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scan from 2020. And I have seen one for 2025.
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It has continued on. in this like northwesterly direction. I
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didn't include the one that had the 2025 point on
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it just because the map was kind of turned a
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different direction. And so I wanted to include this one.
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But basically, you can pretty much see here for the
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last 100 years, it has been making a B line
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in this mostly northly direction, but slightly to the northwest.
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It's actually much closer to the geographic North Pole now
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than It has been in a long, long time, really,
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ever since we started recording this data. But basically making
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a beeline right toward Russia. Now, when it will actually
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do that flip, we don't know. That's hard to predict.
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Once it starts happening, though, we would be able to
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tell you, oh, yeah, it's happening now. So when did
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that last happen? It's been interesting because doing a lot
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of the different conferences, giving my presentations, talking to some
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of my colleagues, being on some different panels, even in
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the general mainstream, I've seen a lot of different dates
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thrown out there from 100,000, a few hundred thousand, all
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these sorts of dates, even now. Well, five years ago,
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there was actually a significant study that came out on this.
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And so I actually referenced this in my book, Alaska's
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Mysterious Triangle. And that is this study that happened on these,
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if I am pronouncing it right, these kauri trees in
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New Zealand. And what we're looking at here, I mean,
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you can see the bulldozer there. So this was, they
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did not chop this down, okay? This was a huge
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trunk of a tree that they found in an ancient bog.
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So this was buried underground. And it was 60 tons.
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This is the largest tree species in New Zealand. And
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this tree grew 42,000 years ago, preserved in this bog.
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And the entire lifespan of the tree was about 1,700 years.
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And it captured a lot of data about the world
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at that time, including the last pole flip. So this
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is according to evolutionary biologist Alan Cooper with Blue Sky
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Genetics and the South Australian Museum. He said, even though
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it was short, the North Pole did wander across North
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America right out towards New York and then back again
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to Oregon. then zoomed through the Pacific really fast to
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Antarctica and hung out there for about 400 years and
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then shot back up through the Indian Ocean to the
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North Pole again. So that's really bizarre. So going from
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the North down to New York, across Oregon, down to Antarctica,
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and then hung out there for 400 years. And when
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we're talking 42,000 years ago, 400 years doesn't sound like
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a lot of time, right? But think about our own history.
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It actually is quite a significant amount of time. We
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think about, okay, what was going on in the 1620s?
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You had stuff like, oh, the Mayflower landed at Plymouth.
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You had the first folio of Shakespeare. that was published.
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A lot of these different things. The last of the
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oryx died off in the forest in Poland. That was
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quite a long time ago in our history. When this happens,
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it's not going to be like, okay, we're going to
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have a bad winter or it's going to be super
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hot that summer or something like that. It's going to
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be many, many generations, several hundred years. So what would
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humanity do? How would humanity react with such a change?
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What kind of changes are we talking about here? Well,
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quite significant. So again, when we talk, or again, I'm
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going to quote here Professor Cooper, but basically he said
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that the protection of the earth, the magnetic protection or
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shield would have been in flux and gone down to
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as much as 6% of its current state, causing dramatic
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climate change. The solar wind from the sun would have
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pounded the Earth with radiation and likely causing the extinction
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of many species. The air would have been ionized. course
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a fantastic conductor for electricity creating far more electrical storms
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in aurora sightings all over the earth again according to
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professor cooper early humans around the world would have seen
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amazing auroras shimmering veils and sheets across the sky it
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must have seemed like the end of days so yeah
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fantastic auroras but the magnetic shield going down to six
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percent what are people going to do you're going okay
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radiation is super high. Species are dying off because of this.
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Are you going outside during the day? Probably not. You're
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probably going to wait until it's nighttime before you go outside.
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And then, yes, you're going to see these magnificent auroras
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and all these things, which means what are you doing
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during the day? Well, if you noticed about 40 to 42,000
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years ago, that's when we have dated a lot of
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our ancient cave art around the world. So this is
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one from Spain. Of course, there are some very famous
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ones in France, but other places all over the world
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that have this cave art. And again, they would have
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hung out in these caves primarily for about 400 years.
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But once you start living in an environment like that,
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in that type of style for a while, you kind
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of hang out there a little bit longer than it's
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not like one day you wake up and you're like, oh,
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you know, the pole's gone back to the north. We'll
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just come out of our cave now. I mean, these
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ancient peoples probably didn't know specifically that the pole had shifted.
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They just know that their environment changed. So it probably
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would have taken a little while for them to actually
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come out of the cave. So you're going to have
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this longer expanded time of them being within them. So, okay,
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that's the cave art. Well, what about some of these
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other locations on Earth that we have found that have
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been dug out, underground cities that we have found? Well,
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we're going to get into that in just a moment.
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But you have to think about this for a second.
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We are talking about a major event, death of species,
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people being irradiated, these The sky essentially being on fire
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to these people. This really is a great cataclysm. And
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I know we don't really think about it in those terms.
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We think of when we think of great cataclysms, we
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think of the flood, the great flood. We think of volcanoes.
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things like this. The extinction event for the dinosaurs. Those
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are the types of things when we think of a
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great cataclysm. But this is one as well. And so
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this would have been the type of thing that when
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the Greek philosopher Solon had gone to Egypt and was
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hanging out in the temples, talking with Sanchis there at
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the Temple of Sais. And when he started talking to
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the Egyptian priests about, Oh yeah, you know, we had
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that great flood. They laughed at him and they said, Sanchez, Sanchez.
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That was one, but that was just, but one cataclysm
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when they laughed at him, they called, they called the
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Greeks children. You Greeks are, but children, that was one cataclysm.
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There have been many cataclysms that have happened. And they
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kind of laughed at him again and said, it's, it's your, uh,
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You guys were wiped out and it was your goat farmers,
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your sheep herders up in the mountains that survived, that
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didn't know all of these different things and came down
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eventually when the waters receded and all that to rebuild civilization.
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But the Egyptians knew. The Egyptians had been keeping track
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of it. Why is that? What are we really referring
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to here? Well, this is essentially... part of the atlantis
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story we're not going to get deep into atlantis or
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anything this evening we are going to cover it just
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in brief here but yes we're talking about the story
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that solon got from egypt brought back to greece with
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him and then was eventually passed on to plato and
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the recorded version of it that we have is from
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plato we also find pieces of the recording of it
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there in egypt So I am going to play, we
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have some video clips tonight, so I am going to
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play a clip here. And this is actually a sneak
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peek from the upcoming Stargates of Ancient film. So let
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me go ahead and crank this up for you guys.
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Muhammad is going to share the story of Atlantis here
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on the walls, which is, again, look for Stargates along
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the walls. They're all throughout the story within here. Traditional archaeology,
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when they talk about the story of Atlantis, they always
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try to say that it was Plato taking a contemporary
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event to his time. Now, when you actually read the
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text that Plato shares with us, he's sharing the story
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of Solon. And Solon came here to Egypt around, like
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we said last night, around 600 BC. And according to Solon,
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when he came back to Greece, as Plato shared, was
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that the Atlantis events actually happened 9,000 years beforehand. So
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if you do the math, Solon was here 600 BC. 9,000
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years before that was 9,600 BC, 11,600 years ago, which
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was the time of the end of the younger Dryas era, which.
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They didn't have that term back then in ancient Greece,
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but it puts it precisely in that date of that
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last great cataclysm. And so when you have modern academia
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trying to say, oh, it was a contemporary story to
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Plato and he used like Santorini or whatever. No, this
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was a story that dates back 11,600 years ago, just
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like he said. And Muhammad is going to share that
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story with us. Yeah, I always find that funny when
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people try to say that Santorini was contemporary to Plato,
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and so therefore he just incorporated that into his Atlantis story.
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of Hastings is contemporary to me if I started writing
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about some great battle. Or pick anything from around 700
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something of that era is contemporary to me. It's bizarre.
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it's ancient. And they just don't really conceptualize the amount
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of time. This is why before, when we were talking
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about 400 years, that I was trying to give some
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is 400 years? What is that? what does that look
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like to us? You know, the, the palace of Versailles was,
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this is when it was first built as a hunting lodge,
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you know, you know, ridiculous. Um, so we have Tom
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McNicholas down in the chat room, uh, gifting five Mike
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Rick sucker memberships. So I appreciate that. So yeah, if
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you want to get a taste of what the membership
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area is like, by all means, jump on that and
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join us this evening for the after show. So, and, um,
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as well. So I did notice this comment up here
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from Claire, and this is exactly what we were talking about.
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Many civilizations went underground to survive in ancient times. I
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believe it was due to coronal mass ejections. Yeah, and that's, again,
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if our magnetic protection was down to 6%, I mean,
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it doesn't even have to be your huge CME. It
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could just be the basic solar wind hitting the earth
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and it's lighting up the planet. So yeah, people had
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to hide. They had to get underground. They had to
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protect themselves. So it makes sense, not just the caves
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with some of these other large underground areas. So that
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takes us to, Cat Daddy mentioned it earlier, that takes
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us to Derinkuyu. Derinkuyu in the Cappadocia region of Turkey. Now,
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that whole area is believed to have roughly 200 underground cities.
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Only about 40 of them have been formally identified and
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excavated to this date, but Still, that's a lot. And
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they're absolutely magnificent when you start looking at the construction.
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But they're absolutely huge areas that now here's the thing. Okay,
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let's go back to the interior map here. And you're
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seeing almost like this, all these tunnels and chambers and
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all this kind of hiding under the earth there.
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Traditional academics. Now, they will admit that they don't know specifically,
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but there's a lot of different theories. But many of
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them believe that these cities were built by the Hittites
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when they were being invaded by the Phrygians and then
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later expanded by the Phrygians after they won and took over.
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But this has never made any sense to me because
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if you're on the run, Like, okay, these guys are
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invading us. They're storming into our lands. Do you have
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time to say, oh, let's dig ourselves a city down
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here and we'll hide in there? You don't have time
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to do that. I get that it's a softer type
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of rock, but it still takes a long time to
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do that. So No, you're not stopping like, oh, even
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telling the Phrygians, hey, Phrygians, just stop running into the
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land and invading us. We need a moment here to
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dig out our city. Of course, that wouldn't have happened either.
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But just the idea of it is ludicrous. Now, what
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makes more sense to me is we do know that
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the Hittites are on the run from the Phrygians. But
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if they knew that There are these underground passages and
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tunnels and chambers, these cities that were under the ground there.
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If they knew that they existed, it makes sense that, oh,
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they're invading us. Let's go hide down there and hope
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that they don't find us. They, of course, did. And again,
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the Phrygians ended up taking over and expanding. So we
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do find a Derinkuyu, multiple expansions. But I believe that
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the original structures far, far predated anything having to do
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with the Hittites, because that story is just absolutely absurd
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and ridiculous. It makes more sense to me that during
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this time of upheaval on Earth with the solar wind
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pelting the land and all this, and granted, they would
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not have been able to do this during the day.
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I understand that. So, okay, you're hiding in your cave.
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at night, or hiding in your cave during the day,
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and at night coming out, okay, this cave is, it's
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an okay temporary shelter. We can't live like this in
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this cave. We need to build something underground. So during
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the day, we're hanging out in the cave, maybe even
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sleeping during the day, because you have to rest at
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some point. And then at night, going and digging out
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your city. And then over time, you eventually end up
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living within there and protecting yourself from everything that was
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going on at the top of above ground makes complete
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sense to me. Digging it out while you're on the
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run now. So, sorry. I know I don't have a
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degree in archeology or anything like that, but that's just
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makes common sense to me. Okay. So, let's move on.
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Of course we have to talk about Egypt and we
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are going to hang out in Egypt for a while because, well, I,
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I host, I host annual tours to Egypt. Of course, uh,
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the next one coming up here. Okay. Shameless plug, uh,
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March 21st through April 2nd, 2027. And the next star
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gates of ancient Egypt tour. So please come and join
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us for that. Uh, you can find the link should
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be down in the description. Um, But if you can't
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find it there, you can always go to my website, MikeRickSecker.com.
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But always, always, always an incredible tour. And I'm not
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just saying that because I'm the host or co-host with Mohamed.
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But there's so much that we explore there. We show
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you the Stargates in plain sight. We have special access
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to so many places. I had an event this past weekend. Sorry,
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a little sidebar here. An event this past weekend, and
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a woman was at my table. She was looking at
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the books, and she picked up the flyer for the
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Stargates of Ancient Egypt tour. And she's like, oh, I really,
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really want to go to Egypt. When's your tour at?
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Because I really want to go. And so I'm describing
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to her what's on the tour. And she had mentioned
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that she was looking at the Viking cruise. that was there,
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not Viking, not Nordic Vikings, no Viking, the company, uh,
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cruise that they hold there in Egypt. And I'm like,
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you know, that's really funny because, uh, my aunt Marge
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few months ago had, she had a little, um, pamphlet
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from them and she had shown me the, uh, their
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cruise through Egypt. She's like, you guys should do something
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like that. I'm like, yeah, Marge, we, part of our
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tour is a Nile cruise, but look at the price
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point there. It's essentially the same price point, and we
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give you so much more between special access and all
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the other places that we go and everything that we're doing.
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There's so much more that we do at the same price.
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I laughed about it. It was pretty funny that she
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happened to mention that just after my Aunt Marja showed
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me the same thing. I'm like, I know exactly what
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you're talking about. Okay, so I'll jump off of that.
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In any case, okay. Giza Plateau.
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So....
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We're going to talk about Egypt. We have to talk about,
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we're going to talk about several things here on the
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Giza plateau and then other locations here in Egypt. But
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of course the big news that's been out here for
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like the last year and a half are the scans
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that have come up out of this area. And it's
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been so, so, so controversial with the coffee project scans.
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And I understand, but you know, the, Egyptian antiquities authority
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and of course Zahi and all of those were immediately like, no,
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it's all fake. It's like, do you even really understand
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the technology? Do you understand what SAR technology is and
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how it works? And I do have a clip here
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with Trevor and I that I'm going to play. But
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basically it's a surface scan. And so you're like, wait
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a minute, wait a minute, surface scan. I mean, immediately,
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like surface scan, what do you mean surface scan? You're
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trying to detect things that are deep, deep, deep underground.
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We're saying up to two kilometers. Does a surface scan
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from micro vibrations that are coming up out of the
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ground from voids that are under the ground? So I
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can't specifically tell you the mechanism inside the satellite that
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makes that happen, but this is... This isn't BS technology.
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This is something that's used for a lot of different purposes,
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not just scanning ancient sites and things like that. One
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of the tests that they did was on the Grand
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Sassel Laboratory in Italy. And this is the largest underground
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research center in the world. It's well known for particle
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physics research and these sorts of things. It's about 1.4
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kilometers underground. deep, but using this, that was, you know,
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a test. We'll test our laboratory. Oh, there it is.
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You know, it shows up on the skin. So the
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technology is legitimate. Let me go ahead and play this
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clip here and we'll discuss a little bit more. These
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are all scientists. You know, these are all very highly
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educated people. They all have careers that are on the
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line here. But she also stated that this was a
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patented methodology. Now, we saw earlier that There was already
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that peer review published paper on the scans of the
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Great Pyramid from a couple of years ago, which is
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what got you involved with the team when you saw that.
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But she's also saying that this method is patented. There
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is a process for this. This isn't just some wild,
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crazy scheme. I've seen officials from Egypt saying things like, well,
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it's fake news. It's like, well, wait a second here.
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It can't be fake. You have real scientists using real scans,
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and they had a real press conference about None of
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that is fake.
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Well, I think a lot of people have been, I mean,
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some people are like, they can't do GPR that far.
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I'm like, it's not GPR. It's not GPR.
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It's thermal imaging or it's any of that. But even
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people who get onto this page where it's, oh, it's SAR,
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that's a different thing. Synthetic aperture radar Doppler tomography. is
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a thing that has been around for a while. They've
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used it to look into identifying volcanoes and looking into
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inner structures of subterranean things. It's just that Filippo Biondi,
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who is a brilliant scientist, came up with an innovation
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that adapts it in this way that can actually penetrate
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down that far. When you're talking about two kilometers down,
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like they mentioned, So that's getting, I think, to the
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limit of where that can go. But it is a
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new innovation on SAR technology, which most people don't know
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much about as it is.
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Yeah, so you can find that whole interview with Travis.
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from a year and a half ago elsewhere on the
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YouTube channel. I think it was called What's Hiding Beneath
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the Giza Plateau. So I'll eventually link it to this
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video and all that. But yeah, I think it's one
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of those. And this has come up here again lately.
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Our friend Frank Regala, who interviewed here last month in
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August on some of his research. And he's been on
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our Stargates tour as well. It's actually where he first
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met Trevor. Trevor and Frank met each other on the
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Stargates tour. And he made this post. This is really
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kind of what inspired me to go down this, this
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road tonight is he made a post. I think it
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was in the last week because again, people were, You know,
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even people in our what you'd call the alternative community,
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we're going back and questioning this technology. And I think it, again,
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comes down to people don't understand how it works. And
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once you understand that it does work, then you have
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to realize that, you know, it has been used in
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other in other cases, not just scanning the Giza plateau
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and these sorts of things. And once you understand that, oh,
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it's been used for other applications and it does work,
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then when it comes to these scans of the Giza Plateau,
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when you're looking at things like this, then you have
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to start to question, wait a minute, what is actually
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going on underneath the plateau if it's showing something? Now,
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there's all kinds of ideas and theories about what is
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under there, such as like the halls of a mentee
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and these sorts of things. And I mean, honestly, we
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don't know. We don't know. That part of it is speculation.
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It would be cool. Yeah. I have another video here
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to kind of get into some of the different ideas
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of what might be down there. But even just right
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there on the Giza Plateau, you have the entire plateau
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is pockmarked with shafts and corridors and So, so much.
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So we know that there are hidden chambers and tunnels
469
00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:02.980
and all this under there. You take something like the
470
00:32:03.299 --> 00:32:09.670
Osiris shaft. Well, the Osiris shaft was found in the 1930s,
471
00:32:09.660 --> 00:32:10.960
almost 100 years ago. It goes about 100 feet underground.
472
00:32:10.980 --> 00:32:11.609
You had the.
473
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The....
474
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:27.759
Researcher at that time, he called it like a subway
475
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.059
found below the pyramids because they were finding not just
476
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:33.740
the Osiris shaft, but so much more that was, that
477
00:32:33.779 --> 00:32:37.420
was under there. And of course, this has also been
478
00:32:37.539 --> 00:32:39.269
part of those scans. So when you look at the,
479
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.660
here's the Osiris shaft, there's the opening to it. And
480
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:48.549
now here's the scan of it. And what They found
481
00:32:48.589 --> 00:32:51.029
when they did the scans, okay, here are the main
482
00:32:51.109 --> 00:32:53.230
chambers of the Osiris chef. And that's as far as
483
00:32:54.410 --> 00:33:00.029
we believe, you know, conventionally or traditionalists believe it goes.
484
00:33:00.069 --> 00:33:02.710
But you look at the scan itself and you're finding, oh,
485
00:33:02.809 --> 00:33:05.990
it actually goes deeper. It looks like there's connections to
486
00:33:06.089 --> 00:33:10.470
other chambers underneath it. Now, when you go down there,
487
00:33:10.769 --> 00:33:14.490
you can only go so far because of the water.
488
00:33:15.890 --> 00:33:20.099
You know, a hundred feet down, you're encountering all this water,
489
00:33:20.220 --> 00:33:22.019
but yet it still continues to go down. And it
490
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:27.799
makes you question just like the construction of it. So
491
00:33:29.509 --> 00:33:33.009
when the scans came out and you start seeing images
492
00:33:33.109 --> 00:33:36.789
like this from the Coffrey project, and this is, you know,
493
00:33:36.809 --> 00:33:43.339
this is a computer model of these scans. Immediately, one
494
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:47.500
of the things people started talking about was the water table.
495
00:33:48.809 --> 00:33:52.130
How can you have something that's that deep, two kilometers
496
00:33:52.150 --> 00:33:56.549
that we're talking about here, up to that? The water
497
00:33:56.589 --> 00:34:01.829
table would get in the way. Well, they're not wrong
498
00:34:01.869 --> 00:34:07.559
about that. They're actually not wrong about the water table. Actually,
499
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:11.780
when it comes to the water table, Thousands of years ago,
500
00:34:12.139 --> 00:34:14.940
the Nile River was closer to the pyramids than it
501
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:18.519
is now. I mean, these days it's miles and miles away.
502
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:23.179
But back then, thousands of years ago, it was much,
503
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:27.579
much closer to the pyramids. So therefore, the water table
504
00:34:27.780 --> 00:34:33.130
actually would have been higher there under the pyramids. Okay,
505
00:34:34.250 --> 00:34:39.260
so explain to me the Osiris shaft. So you go
506
00:34:39.300 --> 00:34:41.199
in there today and this is the water that you're
507
00:34:41.219 --> 00:34:46.579
dealing with. Back then, thousands of years ago, that water
508
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:51.570
would have been higher. So how did they carve the
509
00:34:51.630 --> 00:34:55.849
Osiris shaft? What did they do? It's not like some,
510
00:34:56.050 --> 00:34:58.909
you know, they're hauling buckets up, you know, to try
511
00:34:58.929 --> 00:35:01.710
to keep the water out. Like you've got this, you know,
512
00:35:01.809 --> 00:35:04.289
rope system going with buckets and we've got to keep
513
00:35:04.389 --> 00:35:06.570
bailing out and bailing out. So we keep chiseling away.
514
00:35:08.030 --> 00:35:11.760
That doesn't make any sense at all either. They had
515
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:14.880
to have done something with the water to be able
516
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:20.070
to dig something out like the Osiris shaft. So Trevor
517
00:35:20.110 --> 00:35:23.869
and I, during that same interview, were discussing this a
518
00:35:23.889 --> 00:35:27.030
little bit. A lot of people keep asking about the
519
00:35:27.070 --> 00:35:30.730
water table. How could they build down that low with
520
00:35:30.750 --> 00:35:33.150
the water table? Well, we already know that there's water
521
00:35:33.230 --> 00:35:36.230
in the Osiris shaft, and they did not carve that
522
00:35:36.369 --> 00:35:39.099
out with the water there. That would have been impossible.
523
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:43.579
So we know that the water table has shifted over time.
524
00:35:43.860 --> 00:35:45.800
But it does seem odd to me because we know
525
00:35:45.820 --> 00:35:48.739
that the Nile River has moved away from the pyramids
526
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.260
over the years. So you would almost expect the water
527
00:35:51.300 --> 00:35:54.340
table to... in that area to be higher back then.
528
00:35:54.659 --> 00:35:56.570
But again, we know that they carve things out like
529
00:35:56.630 --> 00:35:59.570
the Osiris shaft. So you were talking a little bit
530
00:35:59.610 --> 00:36:02.949
before the show about, uh, the ancient Egyptians knowing how
531
00:36:03.090 --> 00:36:07.070
to divert water. Is that what they did? And maybe
532
00:36:07.130 --> 00:36:09.929
those mechanisms that were in place in the past, maybe
533
00:36:09.969 --> 00:36:13.360
they're broken or not in place anymore. What do you think? Yeah, absolutely.
534
00:36:13.420 --> 00:36:16.900
I mean, I think they were masters at diverting water and, um,
535
00:36:17.690 --> 00:36:20.690
I think there's, you know, especially if you've got potentially
536
00:36:20.710 --> 00:36:24.300
600-meter structures like this, well, that can drain a lot
537
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:25.780
of water out if there's an outlet.
538
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:26.739
You know, we don't know.
539
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:29.500
It could be different in different parts of the plateau.
540
00:36:29.739 --> 00:36:31.860
All the areas along the Sphinx Causeway where you have
541
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:33.610
these shafts going down, they go down to 100, 125
542
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:37.429
feet maybe, like the Osiris Shaft and the others near it.
543
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.309
And those are all interconnected with tunnels at the bottom.
544
00:36:40.329 --> 00:36:43.510
We know that from the great Professor Salim Hassan in
545
00:36:43.530 --> 00:36:46.260
the 1930s was going down there. And then all these
546
00:36:46.300 --> 00:36:49.679
reports came out that there was that's when the idea
547
00:36:49.699 --> 00:36:53.159
of a secret city below the plateau was first mentioned.
548
00:36:53.179 --> 00:36:54.619
That's what people started calling it.
549
00:36:59.019 --> 00:37:03.210
Yes, a water diversion. That makes a lot more sense
550
00:37:04.210 --> 00:37:06.989
that they would have had some technology put in place
551
00:37:07.650 --> 00:37:11.190
to divert the water out of there so that they could.
552
00:37:12.050 --> 00:37:14.619
dig many of these tunnels and shafts and these sorts
553
00:37:14.659 --> 00:37:17.320
of things. So if they came up with a water
554
00:37:17.820 --> 00:37:21.719
diversion system so that they could dig the Osiris shaft,
555
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:27.860
doesn't this stand to reason that perhaps they had similar
556
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.840
methodology in place, maybe on a bigger scale, to dig
557
00:37:32.889 --> 00:37:35.969
whatever the heck may be under the pyramids or was
558
00:37:36.010 --> 00:37:39.730
part of the water diversion system to pump it under
559
00:37:39.789 --> 00:37:42.679
the pyramids and then they could do things like Dig
560
00:37:42.739 --> 00:37:45.280
out the Osiris shaft and all that. I mean, we
561
00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:48.119
could speculate on that all day because we haven't been
562
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:53.469
able to get down there. But they had to have
563
00:37:53.489 --> 00:37:55.829
been able to dig some of these shafts out. And
564
00:37:56.070 --> 00:37:57.389
to get the water out of the way, they would
565
00:37:57.409 --> 00:38:00.110
have had to put systems in place. So Claire is
566
00:38:00.130 --> 00:38:03.050
saying she met Frank on Easter Island. Fantastic. Yeah, we
567
00:38:03.070 --> 00:38:06.170
still want to do Easter Island. And met both Frank
568
00:38:06.210 --> 00:38:09.550
and Trevor in Egypt the same time back in March.
569
00:38:09.650 --> 00:38:12.590
That is incredible. And then, yeah, I agree with this.
570
00:38:13.190 --> 00:38:15.719
Filippo's been treated very critically by the academics. This is
571
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.559
unjustified until science catches up with his work. His scams
572
00:38:18.579 --> 00:38:20.780
will never be peer reviewed, which is a shame after
573
00:38:20.900 --> 00:38:22.860
all the work done. And I guess it's been part
574
00:38:22.900 --> 00:38:27.800
of the issue here is that he has submitted something
575
00:38:28.139 --> 00:38:32.679
and it was rejected. They wanted more. And you have
576
00:38:32.699 --> 00:38:36.699
to understand the way that peer review systems work. They
577
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:40.510
wanted more information. They wanted.
578
00:38:41.949 --> 00:38:48.300
More proof, more stuff, basically, to back up his paper.
579
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:53.599
So that doesn't mean that they're saying his findings are incorrect.
580
00:38:53.619 --> 00:38:56.099
They're just saying, in order for us to accept this
581
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:59.119
and put it into a peer-reviewed journal, we need more material.
582
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:07.840
But it's a very politicized system these days. You look
583
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:09.920
at what happened with Denny Hillman in Good and Padang.
584
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:13.909
And where he's saying, yeah, this is like 25,000 years old.
585
00:39:14.510 --> 00:39:18.710
And so the pyramid built by humans, that goes back 25,000 years.
586
00:39:19.449 --> 00:39:24.150
And he had a ton of supporting evidence for all this,
587
00:39:24.670 --> 00:39:28.239
actually got it into a journal peer-reviewed journal, and it
588
00:39:28.260 --> 00:39:35.099
was published. But then the archaeology community and the traditionalists
589
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:39.019
threw up their hands and said, no, we are not
590
00:39:39.059 --> 00:39:41.860
accepting this. Even though you got this published, we are
591
00:39:41.900 --> 00:39:46.239
not accepting this, and we are going to stop supporting this.
592
00:39:46.710 --> 00:39:50.730
this particular journal, we're going to pull out whatever funding, subscriptions,
593
00:39:50.769 --> 00:39:53.389
et cetera. So we're just going to flat out reject
594
00:39:55.329 --> 00:39:59.110
this journal. And we're going to blackball the journal. And
595
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.159
so the journal was like, oh, oh my gosh, we're
596
00:40:02.179 --> 00:40:05.639
going to go out of business if all of these
597
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.420
academics pull out. So rather than doing that, we're just
598
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:11.940
going to pull the article. We're going to unpublish it.
599
00:40:12.860 --> 00:40:16.119
Doesn't mean Danny Hillman's findings there at Good and Padang
600
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:22.199
were wrong, that was a political move because the journal
601
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.090
didn't want to go out of business. And so this
602
00:40:25.150 --> 00:40:30.550
becomes a really, really dicey situation if you are going
603
00:40:30.690 --> 00:40:35.380
to basically terrorize. I mean, it is a type of terror.
604
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:40.300
It is publishing terrorism or academic terrorism that if you
605
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:47.400
print this we, we just cut you off from everything.
606
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:49.860
And so therefore you're going to go out of business.
607
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.500
And so therefore, you know, we are now going to
608
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:58.840
say what you publish. Hmm. That's a very, very slippery slope.
609
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.159
And we, we start, we've been seeing a lot of,
610
00:41:02.300 --> 00:41:08.320
a lot of different, um, fields these days where you
611
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:13.599
have a lot of strange bedfellows, um, You know, I
612
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:19.809
even look as a sports fan, baseball primarily, also football. But,
613
00:41:20.309 --> 00:41:23.369
you know, like the sports betting has gone absolutely bonkers
614
00:41:23.449 --> 00:41:27.969
these days because now what you had tried to separate, like,
615
00:41:27.989 --> 00:41:30.369
you know, you had people that were, you know, banned
616
00:41:30.429 --> 00:41:32.590
from sports, couldn't get into the hall. Like, you know,
617
00:41:32.849 --> 00:41:35.659
she was Joe Jackson, Pete Rose, all these others that,
618
00:41:35.860 --> 00:41:37.780
you know, you made this such hard stance. We can't
619
00:41:37.820 --> 00:41:40.309
have this in sports. And I understand why, because you
620
00:41:40.329 --> 00:41:43.010
can't have players throwing games, but now you have just
621
00:41:43.130 --> 00:41:47.260
so enmeshed it that now the players are, you know,
622
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.260
they're confused because it's like, wait a minute, you're all
623
00:41:50.300 --> 00:41:53.480
in bed together, but yet I can't place a bet
624
00:41:53.659 --> 00:41:59.019
over here because I'll get tossed or, you know, some
625
00:41:59.059 --> 00:42:02.139
players have even been fixing games and stuff again. So
626
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:04.579
you kind of almost see that sort of thing in
627
00:42:04.619 --> 00:42:08.030
the academic community where, you know, you have certain people
628
00:42:08.070 --> 00:42:10.210
in bed together and, you know, we can, we can,
629
00:42:10.969 --> 00:42:14.570
we can essentially ban that one. You know, the, these
630
00:42:14.590 --> 00:42:16.269
are the ones we're going to accept. And this is
631
00:42:16.289 --> 00:42:21.650
a part of the game that's happened like in Egypt where,
632
00:42:22.349 --> 00:42:24.050
you know, there are certain things that, you know, we keep,
633
00:42:24.909 --> 00:42:26.710
we want more things to come to light. We want
634
00:42:26.750 --> 00:42:31.000
more discoveries, but, We can't let this come out. And
635
00:42:31.260 --> 00:42:34.460
if we have one of these other organizations over here
636
00:42:34.739 --> 00:42:37.239
that are trying to back it up, well, we can
637
00:42:37.260 --> 00:42:42.119
get that funding next. You have, well, for a long time,
638
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.460
it was like basically one gatekeeper that had the keys
639
00:42:45.699 --> 00:42:49.929
to UNESCO funding. So if you want that UNESCO funding
640
00:42:50.329 --> 00:42:53.389
for a World Heritage Site coming in, don't tick off
641
00:42:53.449 --> 00:42:56.789
the powers that be. Otherwise, we'll just give UNESCO a
642
00:42:56.789 --> 00:42:59.710
call and say, hey, hey, Don't give them any more funding.
643
00:43:01.989 --> 00:43:08.429
You know, so that's how this has all become politicized
644
00:43:08.449 --> 00:43:11.110
and becomes about money and all of that, which is really,
645
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:15.320
really unfortunate. Yeah, like Cat Daddy says here, long past
646
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:18.820
time to disregard the gatekeepers and quackademics and press forward
647
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:21.659
with seeking the truth. They can't hide the truth forever.
648
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:26.139
And that is very true. Can't hide the truth forever.
649
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.500
And hopefully it comes out during our generation but it
650
00:43:29.619 --> 00:43:35.610
might take some decades or maybe it's when we are
651
00:43:35.690 --> 00:43:39.530
long since gone a thousand years from now other archaeologists
652
00:43:39.550 --> 00:43:41.210
come along say well wait a minute it was it
653
00:43:41.230 --> 00:43:43.550
was like this all along and you know what the
654
00:43:43.590 --> 00:43:46.840
heck happened you know a thousand years ago that well
655
00:43:47.300 --> 00:43:50.480
go back and look at the politics so and i
656
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:54.559
don't like getting political but that one yes that will
657
00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:59.559
um Yeah. And lucky three, I would equate modern day
658
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:02.340
peer review to giving your hypothesis to the religious gatekeepers
659
00:44:02.380 --> 00:44:05.760
for their approval. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, and, and that
660
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:09.650
was it, um, you know, back then, uh, not as
661
00:44:09.710 --> 00:44:11.789
much anymore. Like you're not going to get burned at
662
00:44:11.809 --> 00:44:15.550
the stake for, um, for saying different things these days,
663
00:44:15.570 --> 00:44:18.329
but I always found it kind of interesting that, um,
664
00:44:19.130 --> 00:44:23.739
so in travels through time, my book on the nature
665
00:44:23.780 --> 00:44:27.190
of time, possibilities of real time travel, I included a
666
00:44:29.630 --> 00:44:33.809
story about bilocation. And basically, it's Sister Mary Jesus. She
667
00:44:33.849 --> 00:44:36.809
was bilocating to the American Southwest and was proselytizing to
668
00:44:37.429 --> 00:44:44.679
the Native Americans. And those that were watching her at
669
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:48.300
the Abbey in Spain would see her levitate off the
670
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:51.500
floor as she did this. But it's okay. It's cool.
671
00:44:52.329 --> 00:44:54.889
because she's a nun. But if she was a commoner
672
00:44:55.469 --> 00:44:58.119
out there in one of the villages, oh, yeah, that
673
00:44:58.139 --> 00:45:00.900
would be witchcraft. And she'd get burned at the stake.
674
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:04.000
But because she was a nun inside the abbey, oh,
675
00:45:04.059 --> 00:45:07.579
it's for God. So yeah, we're kind of seeing the
676
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.039
same thing these days.
677
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:09.340
Okay.
678
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:12.039
So we'll get off that soapbox because we're getting a
679
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:17.929
little bit limited on time here. But so elsewhere in Egypt,
680
00:45:17.949 --> 00:45:21.369
we have seen other scans done in other areas and
681
00:45:21.389 --> 00:45:24.059
a site that's being excavated now that we had the
682
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:27.739
privilege of going to last year during the Stargates tour
683
00:45:28.619 --> 00:45:32.840
is the Egyptian labyrinth at Hawara, which is just absolutely incredible.
684
00:45:32.860 --> 00:45:35.070
There's the pyramid and you can see here to the right,
685
00:45:35.489 --> 00:45:37.570
you know, all those little hills and bumps and everything. That's,
686
00:45:37.670 --> 00:45:42.170
that's the labyrinth area. And they're out there now excavating
687
00:45:42.210 --> 00:45:46.699
this to, you know, Louis de Cordier and in his teams.
688
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:50.840
And he was, he headed up the Mahatta project years
689
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:57.079
ago and they've come back and they are doing some
690
00:45:57.099 --> 00:46:00.380
more excavating there you see like just ruins of you
691
00:46:00.420 --> 00:46:03.320
know just pieces i mean basically what happened is uh
692
00:46:03.380 --> 00:46:08.500
the the area that was on top was pillaged by
693
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:13.280
the romans long long ago sir flinders petrie back in
694
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:17.639
the late 1800s came along investigating the site And this
695
00:46:17.699 --> 00:46:19.539
is his map that he put together. I put the
696
00:46:19.539 --> 00:46:21.480
244 by 304 in there because that's the size of
697
00:46:21.500 --> 00:46:25.539
the area. It's huge. You see the pyramid there, your
698
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:31.239
square and X. What you also see cutting through the
699
00:46:31.340 --> 00:46:34.989
area is a canal. And this is really, really decimated
700
00:46:35.010 --> 00:46:38.130
the area. So in the 1300s, when it was first
701
00:46:38.170 --> 00:46:42.130
put in, it was widened and deepened about 100 years ago,
702
00:46:42.150 --> 00:46:46.019
a little over 100 years ago. And it's made a
703
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mess of the area. It's flooded the pyramid. So you
704
00:46:50.900 --> 00:46:52.929
can't really get down in there. We also feature this
705
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during the Stargates of Ancient Egypt film that's coming out.
706
00:46:58.630 --> 00:47:08.210
But you see these scans here by Merlin Burroughs. Back about, see,
707
00:47:08.269 --> 00:47:10.769
this is, again, similar technology of what we're talking about
708
00:47:10.809 --> 00:47:13.739
with Saar. and this is even a little bit older,
709
00:47:14.300 --> 00:47:17.619
but this is from, I want to say 2016. It
710
00:47:17.659 --> 00:47:21.190
was about 10 years ago. And you're finding these structures
711
00:47:21.269 --> 00:47:27.170
that are under the labyrinth. And Petrie basically found this
712
00:47:28.349 --> 00:47:32.679
stone slab going across this entire area, absolutely huge, across
713
00:47:32.699 --> 00:47:35.039
the entire area, but he wasn't digging down or anything.
714
00:47:35.059 --> 00:47:36.840
He just thought it was the floor. And so he
715
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.679
walked away and investigated other areas. But there were stories
716
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:42.940
dating as far back as Herodotus talking about, no, there's
717
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:46.679
something under there. There's something much deeper under there. And
718
00:47:46.739 --> 00:47:49.360
so when we talk the labyrinth, this is kind of
719
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:52.760
what we're looking at. These huge chambers, almost like an
720
00:47:52.820 --> 00:47:59.409
underground city that is under here. And some of the
721
00:47:59.780 --> 00:48:04.090
speculation is that it might be because one of these
722
00:48:04.130 --> 00:48:09.449
structures you can see is kind of circular, circular. could
723
00:48:09.469 --> 00:48:12.510
have possibly been a dome structure. And so people think
724
00:48:12.550 --> 00:48:19.889
it could be the circle of gold, which was, it
725
00:48:19.949 --> 00:48:21.429
comes out of one of the books of the dead.
726
00:48:21.469 --> 00:48:24.300
And there are many variations of books of the dead
727
00:48:24.539 --> 00:48:27.320
or book of going forth by day. But this is
728
00:48:27.380 --> 00:48:31.380
a place we're going back to the cataclysms that ancient
729
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:37.119
Egyptian priests and mathematicians were here trying to predict the
730
00:48:37.690 --> 00:48:40.610
the next great cataclysm. They call the circle gold because
731
00:48:40.630 --> 00:48:45.449
supposedly they were putting all of this into gold hieroglyphics
732
00:48:47.030 --> 00:48:52.469
or gold hieroglyphic text, gold hieroglyphs. So again, we kind
733
00:48:52.510 --> 00:48:56.639
of come back to that idea of the cataclysms. And
734
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the Egyptians, of course, again, knew that there were many, many,
735
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:03.949
many Of these different cataclysms. And so they wanted to
736
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be they want to figure out when the next one
737
00:49:05.889 --> 00:49:08.550
was going to happen. We possibly predict that. So this
738
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is something that could have been going on there at
739
00:49:11.530 --> 00:49:15.369
the at the Egyptian labyrinth of Hawara. It doesn't mean
740
00:49:15.409 --> 00:49:19.250
it was, again, kind of like with the halls of Amenti,
741
00:49:20.349 --> 00:49:22.880
speculation until we get down there. It could have been
742
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:27.360
a completely different location if it really did exist, of course.
743
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.219
But one of those pieces to the story that I
744
00:49:35.070 --> 00:49:40.320
do believe happened because of the fact the Egyptians knew
745
00:49:40.380 --> 00:49:42.860
these cataclysms would happen. So it makes sense that they'd
746
00:49:43.179 --> 00:49:46.219
get together their brightest minds to figure out, hey, we
747
00:49:46.260 --> 00:49:48.219
don't want to get decimated like we did last time.
748
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:52.030
Can you figure this out? Makes sense. All right, so
749
00:49:52.090 --> 00:49:55.230
for the last bit here, I spent a lot of
750
00:49:55.269 --> 00:49:57.070
time in Egypt there, kind of got on a couple
751
00:49:57.110 --> 00:50:00.070
of soap boxes and all that. We're going to swing
752
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to a totally different part of the world, and we're
753
00:50:03.269 --> 00:50:08.349
going to the American Southwest. Montezuma's Well in Arizona. This
754
00:50:08.369 --> 00:50:11.969
is just south of Sedona in the Verde Valley. A
755
00:50:13.869 --> 00:50:17.269
lot of people go to the castle, which is like
756
00:50:17.329 --> 00:50:21.239
a huge cliff dwelling. You can see here at Montezuma's Well,
757
00:50:21.260 --> 00:50:26.699
there are also cliff dwellings. But this has some really
758
00:50:26.739 --> 00:50:34.030
fascinating origin stories that, again, it's that similar It's a
759
00:50:34.050 --> 00:50:38.860
similar story. Great Cataclysm, Hiding Underground. I've been there a
760
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.420
few different times now. Absolutely love it. Kate and I
761
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:48.449
were there back in February, just after our wedding. And
762
00:50:48.489 --> 00:50:52.789
I was kind of giving her the nickel tour. And yeah,
763
00:50:52.809 --> 00:50:54.500
I had to stop and say a few words about it.
764
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So it's a little bit of a longer clip here.
765
00:50:56.349 --> 00:51:00.000
We'll just go ahead and run it. Here at Montezuma's Well,
766
00:51:00.019 --> 00:51:03.079
and this is really a favorite location of mine because
767
00:51:03.099 --> 00:51:06.599
you have those cataclysmic stories. They call it the story
768
00:51:06.619 --> 00:51:09.840
of emergence up there on the plaque, but what that means,
769
00:51:09.900 --> 00:51:14.269
and I'm going to explain, is that the indigenous peoples
770
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had the legends of... coming here when the cataclysm was
771
00:51:19.300 --> 00:51:23.360
occurring and being saved by the ant people. This was
772
00:51:23.659 --> 00:51:28.030
a portal into inner earth and the ant people brought
773
00:51:28.050 --> 00:51:31.110
them in here. This water was not here. And they
774
00:51:31.210 --> 00:51:35.590
went inside and they were rescued. And later on, when
775
00:51:35.610 --> 00:51:38.400
the cataclysm subsided, they came out and we see the
776
00:51:38.420 --> 00:51:41.699
different cliff dwellings here. And of course, down the river
777
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:47.320
at Montezuma's castle, where basically it was a huge city. Now,
778
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:50.210
Kate and I were just doing a little tuning in
779
00:51:50.269 --> 00:51:55.150
here a while ago, and what I saw was that
780
00:51:56.409 --> 00:52:00.349
there was, when this water was not here, there was
781
00:52:00.369 --> 00:52:04.349
a waterfall that went down, down, down into the large,
782
00:52:04.469 --> 00:52:09.440
basically hole in the earth to where the Ant people lived.
783
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:16.699
But later on, this was after the cataclysmic days, this
784
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:21.239
site was becoming endangered because more nefarious people were coming
785
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:24.440
along and they needed to seal this off. So basically,
786
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:28.460
they tore into that waterfall to fill this up. And
787
00:52:28.500 --> 00:52:32.369
what's really, really incredible is they don't know how far
788
00:52:32.409 --> 00:52:35.510
down this goes. They've sent probes down, they've sent divers down,
789
00:52:35.550 --> 00:52:38.289
and anything they put down here gets pushed back up.
790
00:52:38.730 --> 00:52:43.010
So this way has been blocked. It has been sealed. Now,
791
00:52:43.230 --> 00:52:46.179
what Kate saw was Kate you have to refresh me
792
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:46.900
it was the inner.
793
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:52.730
Earth yeah so um what I saw was that when
794
00:52:52.789 --> 00:52:59.159
the cataclysms happened before the people came down um they
795
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:01.440
led them down here and there were portals underground yeah.
796
00:53:03.909 --> 00:53:07.110
And what Kate saw was that when the cataclysms were
797
00:53:07.170 --> 00:53:10.670
occurring and they were leading the people down here, that
798
00:53:10.750 --> 00:53:14.179
there were portals under there. They were leading them basically
799
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:18.460
off planet to survive until they could come back. And
800
00:53:18.500 --> 00:53:23.199
that inner earth is really like this hub of different portals.
801
00:53:23.260 --> 00:53:26.349
And again, that makes sense because... say during the last
802
00:53:26.389 --> 00:53:29.510
cataclysm which was a huge flood flood the earth that's
803
00:53:29.530 --> 00:53:35.519
in every almost every indigenous uh civilization story well all
804
00:53:35.539 --> 00:53:37.699
that water would have come into here and flooded the
805
00:53:37.739 --> 00:53:40.480
whole place out so it wouldn't make sense to really
806
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:45.159
live underground like that you want high ground so the
807
00:53:45.260 --> 00:53:48.650
portals under here in inner earth make a ton of
808
00:53:48.690 --> 00:53:51.389
sense so real quick as we are walking back up
809
00:53:52.710 --> 00:53:56.739
the traditional academia says this is a sinkhole If you
810
00:53:56.780 --> 00:53:59.780
look here, this is volcanic rock. There's a lot of
811
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:03.820
volcanic rock all throughout this region of the country because
812
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:09.989
there are ancient volcanoes. That is an old magma tube
813
00:54:10.809 --> 00:54:15.230
from an ancient volcano that goes down. And when we've
814
00:54:15.250 --> 00:54:19.170
talked about inner earth or hallowed earth and those sorts
815
00:54:19.210 --> 00:54:22.449
of things, I never really believed in the traditional hallowed
816
00:54:22.510 --> 00:54:27.019
earth thing except... hallowed earth in that there are old
817
00:54:28.219 --> 00:54:32.630
lava tubes and magma chambers riddled throughout the planet that
818
00:54:32.769 --> 00:54:37.010
beings could be using to live and dwell right down
819
00:54:37.050 --> 00:54:43.650
there makes complete complete sense to me and additionally if
820
00:54:44.070 --> 00:54:47.570
you think about it okay they can't put anything down
821
00:54:47.610 --> 00:54:52.800
there keeps getting pushed back up it's very toxic There's
822
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:54.719
only five life forms that can live in there now,
823
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:58.500
and they're indigenous to here. You don't find them anywhere
824
00:54:58.539 --> 00:55:03.280
else on Earth because they've developed a resilience to what's
825
00:55:03.340 --> 00:55:11.349
in there. That is an ancient volcano. That's my theory,
826
00:55:11.369 --> 00:55:13.630
and I'm sticking to it. Yeah, it makes a lot
827
00:55:13.670 --> 00:55:15.769
more sense to me. And there are, of course, these
828
00:55:15.849 --> 00:55:19.869
large cavernous areas that we've talked a lot about what
829
00:55:20.250 --> 00:55:25.590
humans do. built and what humans dug out but nature's
830
00:55:25.630 --> 00:55:29.269
done a lot of that as well these huge large
831
00:55:29.389 --> 00:55:34.710
cavernous areas under the earth that yeah were old magma
832
00:55:34.730 --> 00:55:38.889
chambers and lava tubes and things like this um you
833
00:55:38.909 --> 00:55:41.650
know there's there's some like at mount shasta that you
834
00:55:41.670 --> 00:55:45.969
know people go walking into and they're huge um you
835
00:55:45.989 --> 00:55:47.369
know that are just kind of almost like coming out
836
00:55:47.389 --> 00:55:49.800
of the side of the mountain uh we we feature
837
00:55:49.820 --> 00:55:53.300
that i think that was on um One or two
838
00:55:53.340 --> 00:55:56.780
of our episodes of ancient aliens and, you know, OK,
839
00:55:56.820 --> 00:55:57.940
what's in it? Because you have a lot of the
840
00:55:57.980 --> 00:56:02.530
indigenous legends of different beings coming out of that are
841
00:56:02.630 --> 00:56:04.570
happening or you go in and there's some portal that
842
00:56:04.590 --> 00:56:07.920
takes you to. another land or these sorts of things
843
00:56:08.500 --> 00:56:11.659
and this is essentially what the indigenous legend was there
844
00:56:11.929 --> 00:56:15.510
at at montezuma as well that yeah the when the
845
00:56:15.570 --> 00:56:18.829
great cataclysm was happening the ant people saved the humans
846
00:56:18.889 --> 00:56:22.210
and took them under there but again you know the
847
00:56:22.690 --> 00:56:25.110
water filling it up and that sort of thing uh
848
00:56:25.170 --> 00:56:27.630
it makes sense that they were that may have been
849
00:56:27.670 --> 00:56:32.369
the entrance but taken someplace else like they could have
850
00:56:32.389 --> 00:56:34.349
been the entrance to like an inner earth or uh
851
00:56:35.630 --> 00:56:39.550
even another dimension or something like that so again can't
852
00:56:39.570 --> 00:56:42.440
know specifically we can't get down there but there are
853
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:47.739
these very very large areas that just riddle the earth
854
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:51.699
the earth's crust because of these ancient volcano systems and
855
00:56:51.980 --> 00:56:55.820
these sorts of things i mean you have Live volcanoes today,
856
00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:59.900
you look at something like the Aleutian Islands there in Alaska,
857
00:57:00.139 --> 00:57:04.380
and they're lined up, volcano, volcano, volcano. Why are they?
858
00:57:04.420 --> 00:57:08.000
You have this chain of volcanoes. Underneath, they're all connected.
859
00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:14.980
When those go dormant, yeah, sure, sometimes the lava stays
860
00:57:15.019 --> 00:57:17.260
in there and hardens and solidifies, and then as it
861
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:19.460
weathers away, you end up with something like Devil's Tower.
862
00:57:20.260 --> 00:57:24.320
But at other times, the lava dissipates away, and leaves
863
00:57:24.340 --> 00:57:30.659
these large chambers and tubes and things like this. And yeah, people, humans,
864
00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:35.840
other life forms can make homes out of those. So
865
00:57:37.099 --> 00:57:41.969
there could very well, even today, be civilizations under the
866
00:57:42.010 --> 00:57:51.130
ground that are living in these things. And we're, unbeknownst
867
00:57:51.250 --> 00:57:56.090
to the general public, I think the military has a
868
00:57:56.090 --> 00:57:59.849
good idea about many of these, but that's probably a
869
00:57:59.949 --> 00:58:04.010
story for another day. Yeah, like here, Claire, the whole
870
00:58:04.030 --> 00:58:08.889
Yucatan is hollow limestone. Yeah, absolutely. You have a lot
871
00:58:08.989 --> 00:58:13.780
of all kinds of areas like that. And I've had
872
00:58:14.619 --> 00:58:19.340
friends that are divers go diving in that area. They'll
873
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:24.119
go down and then they notice this tunnel. They swim
874
00:58:24.139 --> 00:58:26.710
through the tunnel. and come up in this huge chamber,
875
00:58:26.769 --> 00:58:31.739
beautiful area. Like, wow, you know, what is this place?
876
00:58:32.539 --> 00:58:34.519
You know, very, very cool things like that. And even
877
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.960
in some of those that they dive into and find,
878
00:58:38.340 --> 00:58:41.780
there are relics from ancient peoples from long, long ago
879
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:49.869
that are in these chambers. So, yeah, absolutely incredible stuff. So, again...
880
00:58:50.210 --> 00:58:53.170
Tonight's after show, we're going to be getting into where
881
00:58:53.190 --> 00:58:55.110
we see this a little bit in our fiction that,
882
00:58:55.150 --> 00:58:58.829
you know, being dropped hints from people like J.R.R. Tolkien.
883
00:58:58.849 --> 00:59:01.809
So that's part of the after show. So members definitely
884
00:59:01.849 --> 00:59:04.230
come join us for that. And again, I will go
885
00:59:04.269 --> 00:59:06.789
ahead and give some shout outs here to our members
886
00:59:06.809 --> 00:59:10.659
like Tom McNicholas, Colleen Pallison, Diana Dawn Dee Smith, Blair,
887
00:59:10.739 --> 00:59:17.050
Pandora Farms, Lisa, Elizabeth Heartstar, Alice, Antonio Vega, Level, Cat Daddy.
888
00:59:17.070 --> 00:59:21.469
I know there are some that just jumped on there
889
00:59:21.489 --> 00:59:25.909
this evening because we had Tom McNicholas drop in a
890
00:59:27.650 --> 00:59:32.440
a gift of five memberships. So I'm sure, I'm sure
891
00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:35.280
those got scarfed up right away, because they usually do.
892
00:59:35.300 --> 00:59:39.380
I end up on the studio side of YouTube and
893
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:41.320
see this like huge spike in memberships. And it's like,
894
00:59:41.420 --> 00:59:44.130
I asked from Tom. So we appreciate that, Tom. Absolutely.
895
00:59:44.150 --> 00:59:48.170
And I definitely appreciate the ones that decide to stick
896
00:59:48.210 --> 00:59:52.610
around and enjoy. So And then of course there's also
897
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:54.730
the Patreon side. There's a lot more back there as well.
898
00:59:55.090 --> 00:59:58.969
And also the Connecting Universe portal. So do you want
899
00:59:58.989 --> 01:00:02.409
to thank all those who joined us this evening for,
900
01:00:02.429 --> 01:00:07.210
you know, there's so much with this, so much to
901
01:00:07.289 --> 01:00:10.210
cover with these underground civilizations. I mean, we picked just
902
01:00:10.230 --> 01:00:12.730
a handful of locations. There's so much more, you know,
903
01:00:12.809 --> 01:00:16.530
I didn't even get into, I'm just thinking about it now.
904
01:00:17.090 --> 01:00:20.780
I didn't get into the Hall of Records under the Sphinx.
905
01:00:21.059 --> 01:00:23.260
You know, I have the, you know, slide all lined
906
01:00:23.420 --> 01:00:26.639
up and everything for that. We didn't even get into that.
907
01:00:27.139 --> 01:00:29.800
That's another one that I'm going to be speaking here
908
01:00:30.010 --> 01:00:34.789
at the Ancient Mysteries Conference at the Edgar Cayce, Edgar
909
01:00:34.809 --> 01:00:44.429
Cayce's ARE in Virginia Beach here at the He was
910
01:00:44.469 --> 01:00:49.289
talking 100 years ago that there's a chamber under the
911
01:00:49.349 --> 01:00:52.840
left paw of the Sphinx. And sure enough, they're doing
912
01:00:52.860 --> 01:00:58.119
seismic scans back in the early 1990s, shock and west,
913
01:00:58.219 --> 01:01:01.260
when they're redating the Sphinx. Oh, yeah, there's a chamber
914
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:03.780
under there. And then all of a sudden, we're going
915
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:07.579
to shut them down. We've got to quiet those guys.
916
01:01:08.429 --> 01:01:10.719
And then, you know, what happens? Well, there's more scans
917
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:14.900
coming from the Giza Plateau, again, from the Kaufer Project. Oh, yeah,
918
01:01:14.980 --> 01:01:20.360
there you go. You know, scans under the Sphinx. There
919
01:01:20.380 --> 01:01:23.610
are chambers under the Sphinx. They're there. Something Casey was
920
01:01:23.630 --> 01:01:30.309
talking about 100 years ago. But even in newspaper articles
921
01:01:30.829 --> 01:01:35.079
back then, they were showing chambers within the Sphinx. So
922
01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:37.840
Casey dives in and he's like, yeah, there's something there
923
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:40.019
under the paw. It's a hall of records. And of course,
924
01:01:40.059 --> 01:01:43.389
he talked about Atlantis and all these things as well,
925
01:01:43.449 --> 01:01:48.050
the survivors of Atlantis. So again, we get deeper into
926
01:01:48.130 --> 01:01:50.610
all of this in the upcoming Stargates of Ancient Egypt film.
927
01:01:51.489 --> 01:01:54.150
We show you exactly where all this stuff is at
928
01:01:55.389 --> 01:01:59.769
in the Stargates of Ancient Egypt tour. For those who
929
01:02:00.030 --> 01:02:03.269
want to come join us next March 21st through April 2nd,
930
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:09.380
Love to see you guys there. And all right. So
931
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:11.889
I'm going to kick over to the after show now.
932
01:02:11.949 --> 01:02:15.750
Talk a little Tolkien. You know, again, there are some
933
01:02:15.829 --> 01:02:19.690
quotes from this morning that were just wonderful. And it's like, yeah,
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we're going to go there today. So it'll be fun.
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All right, everybody. Till next time. Time really exists.