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00:00:11.599Welcome back to Your Average Witch, where every month we talk about witch life, witch stories, and sometimes a little witchcraft.
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00:00:15.919In this episode, I'm talking with Ivy of Ivy Tuney.
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00:00:27.839Ivy, hello, good morning.
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00:00:32.320Hi, I am awesome.
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00:00:35.759I'm excited to finally get you on here.
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00:00:36.640I know.
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00:00:39.359I've been procrastinating coming on.
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00:00:44.159I love podcasts and I love yours, so it's about time.
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00:00:51.920Can you please introduce yourself and let everybody know who you are and what you do and where they can find you?
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00:00:52.719Yes.
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00:00:54.079Hi, everybody.
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00:00:55.280My name is Ivy.
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00:01:06.000I'm on all socials, especially TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, as Ivy Tuning In, spelt just how it sounds.
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00:01:20.719And I am a longtime practitioner of different metaphysical practices, newer at Reiki Healing, although I've always been interested in it.
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00:01:32.560I also break down hard concepts like astrology and the houses and all of the signs, archetypes and tarot.
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00:01:40.959I can break all of that down for you to a more digestible, easier to understand explanation.
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00:01:47.359Yeah, when I got my natal chart once, it was it's so much.
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00:01:57.519So do you call yourself a witch?
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00:01:59.280I definitely do, yes.
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00:02:01.840What does it mean when you do that?
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00:02:10.000So um I love this song by Devin Cole called Woman in Total Control of Herself.
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00:02:13.599And that really sums up to me what it what it means.
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00:02:28.400It's just uh someone um who has complete autonomy over themselves, over what they believe, over how they respond to things, you know, instead of like taking a script.
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00:02:35.759Somebody who can, you know, use their own critical thinking skills, um, take what resonates with them, and then leave the rest.
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00:02:40.159What kind of practice do you have?
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00:02:43.919I am very eclectic.
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00:02:54.080Um I come from a Hispanic background, so I do feel called with like a lot of curandera practices, like the egg limpias.
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00:03:00.159Um I am actually allergic to sage, so I don't use any sage in in my home.
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00:03:09.439I use palo santo instead, which um a lot of palosanto comes from fallen trees in Ecuador, and my dad's from Ecuador, we just visited.
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00:03:25.120Um other than that, I try to be really casual and just be really mindful with even everyday mundane things, incorporate some intention into everything, and you know, just the intention goes a long way.
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00:03:37.199I was just talking to a friend of mine about how everybody says, oh, just add it into your everyday life, but I'm just I don't have the energy.
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00:03:39.360It's right.
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00:03:41.599So there's something called cognitive kindness.
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00:03:52.159I used to be a big TED Talk nerd, so it was one of the ones that stood out to me is um, you know, when you have to remember all of these things, it's the same thing as a mental load.
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00:03:58.240Um, sometimes even adding it into the mundane things can be a lot of mental load to remember.
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00:04:01.360Um so you know, keep it playful.
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00:04:07.919Like if it isn't fun for you, then then find something else or don't worry about it.
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00:04:13.599Uh something I've had to work on myself is like feeling guilty for not being consistent.
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00:04:20.079Um, so if it's making you feel bad, then let it go and find something that makes you feel good.
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00:04:24.879Ouch.
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00:04:32.160But also, it is more fun for me if I do it separately.
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00:04:35.519So yay, I'm doing it appropriately anyway.
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00:04:36.639Awesome.
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00:04:38.879Yeah, exactly.
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00:04:43.279Do you have any anything that you do consistently?
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00:04:48.240Um, oh, okay.
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00:05:10.079So I didn't think of it as witchcraft until kind of as an adult, but ever since I was a little girl, um, you know how in school they'll make you stand up, put your hand on your heart, um, usually facing the fog, and have like a moment of silence, especially for all of us that live through all those like terrible national tragedies.
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00:05:12.879Um, and they do, you know, the moment of silence.
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00:05:41.360Well, um, you see it's it's kind of m macabre, but um whenever I see like an animal on the side of the road, you know, who they're usually left there after getting hit, and it just seems so it seems so unceremonious to me, even as a as a kid, I would always have a moment of silence for those animals.
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00:05:51.519And um even when I started driving, I would just like try to close my eyes real quick and just like have more of like a moment of silence for for them.
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00:06:05.360And then when I started really studying more practices and stuff and finding out like Hecate is the you know the queen of witches, she's she's at the crossroads, she helps lost souls, and she's usually surrounded by animals.
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00:06:11.040Um, I started I realized that, oh, this is like a really hekate practice to do.
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00:06:23.040So then I started kind of visualizing whatever kind of animal it is kind of meeting up with Hecate and and finding their way, just try to give them a little bit more of a ceremony for a life that was lost.
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00:06:24.000Does that make sense?
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00:06:25.839That is so sweet.
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00:06:28.160Yeah, yeah.
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00:06:29.600I'm doing that.
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00:06:31.040That is so sweet.
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00:06:35.040I mean, you know it's usually snakes and rabbits here, but that's so sweet.
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00:06:41.360I saw a rabbit yesterday, and I was like, oh, it was it looked little, it looked little so sad.
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00:06:43.279So yeah, I imagined rabbits.
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00:06:49.199And and you know, rabbits have like a really um they have a tie-in with like witchy history and stuff too.
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00:06:54.639I love rabbits and cats and all animals.
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00:07:09.199Uh if you will share this, who or what, because sometimes it's like books or something, gave you the best advice you've ever gotten, and will you share the advice?
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00:07:14.800Yeah, yeah.
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00:07:22.959Um so ever since I was little, I um just had an affinity with cats.
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00:07:32.079You know, uh we we would rescue a lot of cats, and this is probably a weird answer, but we would rescue a lot of cats, but they none of them would stay inside the house.
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00:07:35.199They would just come and go, they were all like strays that we fed.
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00:07:54.480And that type of mentality of like, again, autonomy and just not caring, not giving a fuck about anybody else, um, you know, hissing at the wrong people, vibing and and cuddling with the right people, like just their way of life, their cat's demeanor.
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00:08:00.160Um, that has been like the best example for me growing up.
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00:08:05.920Um, especially when like maybe the adults in my life weren't the best example at the time.
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00:08:13.839Um I've always vibed with just like how cats live their life.
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00:08:24.319And then, you know, again with the TED Talks, there was one, there was one about like just just sitting in the sun, like when you're overwhelmed and and everything, sit in the sun like a cat does.
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00:08:26.319I'm like, yes, I'm doing it right.
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00:08:28.480Just do what the cats do.
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00:08:33.600And they're really good at teaching consent.
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00:08:35.600A hundred percent.
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00:08:37.039A lot of people don't get that.
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00:08:45.120I used to I was I was that girl, that crazy cat girl, like in school that was like would always fight with somebody whenever they said dogs are better.
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00:08:47.600I'm like, that's because you don't know how to love.
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00:08:57.440Like they people would start like just a lot of people.
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00:09:00.159Yeah.
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00:09:03.519Yeah.
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00:09:07.200That's amazing.
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00:09:14.080What would you say is the biggest struggle in your practice?
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00:09:16.639100% consistency.
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00:09:20.480Like I reach I'm a I'm a mom.
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00:09:28.799Um, I'm now I'm like working on finding a new way of life um after getting laid off this year.
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00:09:39.759Um, but just like finding some routine that's like daily, and I've struggled my whole life, even just getting to work on time most of the time.
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00:09:46.879So finding a way to like incorporate practices into daily routines when I don't really have a daily routine.
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00:10:03.039So I'm pretty sure I'm ADHD, but you can imagine with that how hard it'd be to consistently remind yourselves, which is when I remember to add practices into mundane things, um, it'll it'll be like a fun little thing to do.
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00:10:04.399Like, ooh, I remembered.
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00:10:09.679Um, but other than that, I I always do the moment of silence thing.
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00:10:27.600And then um I was raised pseudo-Catholic, so a lot of guardian angel prayers, and I still do that, especially like you know, when you're going to sleep and you have that like that anxiety mind running over through all of like your plans.
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00:10:42.320Um actually when I first moved to Tucson, um, I felt like there was like an entity um that was like haunting our nightmares.
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00:10:51.759So times like that, I would do the the guardian angel oration in Spanish, um, like I was taught when I was little, because it's just so it's comforting.
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00:11:01.440And it always it was something that always helped me and my little sister go to sleep when when we had to when we shared a room and and she used to have a lot of trouble going to sleep.
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00:11:06.159Um you just say it, you say amen, and then you go to sleep.
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00:11:09.200So it's it's always something that calms me down.
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00:11:13.840It's okay if you say no to this, but can you share that?
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00:11:18.240I will do my best.
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00:11:24.159Uh English technically wasn't my first language, but I was raised with it a lot.
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00:11:30.720But then like as I got older and learned actual Spanish, I realized I was saying a lot of things wrong.
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00:11:38.000So uh forgive me anyone who knows their own version, because there's different versions too, but yeah, I could totally say it.
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00:11:56.000So it's Angel de la Guarda, ni de Dulce Compance Compania, no me desapares ni de noche ni de dia, hasta que me ponga con Pasia Alegria, con todos los santos, Jesus y Maria.
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00:11:59.519That's cool.
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00:12:01.679I understood a couple of the words.
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00:12:09.600Yeah, I won't Spanish won't stay in my brain because German has sort of taken it over, but I understand one or two.
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00:12:27.039Yeah, no, I most of my life I was saying it wrong until I realized like, oh, that's supposed to be like an actual word, and none of those things I I because I used to say like needed dulce companía, which means like not of sweet company, but so that's why I switched it back like, no, it's supposed to be and of sweet company, I'm assuming.
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00:12:34.159But and but then when I look it up, there's like huge long ones, and I'm like, that is not what we said when I was little.
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00:12:38.240So I'm just trying to keep it close to the original that I learned.
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00:12:40.080That's so neat.
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00:12:40.960Uh-huh.
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00:12:51.200I don't I didn't really pray as a kid, but I think like the Lord's prayer is really nice.
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00:12:54.559And semi-threatening.
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00:12:57.679And I kinda like that.
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00:13:06.879Or like the um and I only know this one because of Metallica, but the as I lay me down to sleep, it's it's kind of like that.
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00:13:14.159Yeah, if if if I went to church as a kid, it was definitely all in Spanish.
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00:13:16.720Um Thanks, Metallica.
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00:13:17.840Shout out Metallica.
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00:13:20.320Yeah, so I don't know, I don't know what the Lord's.
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00:13:24.639But I the one um The Lord is my shepherd.
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00:13:27.279I shall not want.
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00:13:28.480I like that one.
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00:13:31.360I like that one.
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00:13:40.240Especially the part And though I walk through the shadow of the valley of death, I shall feel I will fear no evil.
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00:13:41.120Yes.
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00:13:42.240Okay, yes.
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00:13:43.600Gangster paradise.
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00:13:44.080I'm just kidding.
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00:13:45.840Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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00:13:48.960No, no, yet.
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00:13:52.240But that's that's exactly what I mean about like being being a witch.
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00:13:56.000You take you take what vibes right with you and then leave the rest.
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00:14:11.919So and and there's a reason, like there's a reason why that vibes with us, and then when we meet up together, we can like share it with each other and the meaning rather than like getting the the diluted version that we get from like TV or songs like I did.
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00:14:15.279But that's nice.
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00:14:28.960Please tell me about your favorite meal, like especially what you ate, why it's your favorite, who was there, and why you ended up eating that thing with those people at that time.
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00:14:31.279Okay, okay.
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00:14:43.919Um so currently my favorite meal, um, it's only available like in Florida, which is sad because I don't live in Florida anymore, but we just visited and I had it like every other day.
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00:14:45.679Oh, I love that.
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00:14:49.519There's uh it's technically fast food.
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00:14:59.919They have a drive-thru and everything, but it's not the majority of it, isn't fried, it's um like cooked over a grill, a f open fire grill.
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00:15:08.320Um, it's white rice, black beans, and then like grilled chicken, and it's from a place called Pollo Tropical, my absolute favorite place.
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00:15:24.080Um, but basically any variation of that, like a really good roasted tropical chicken, like with the citrusy, like marinades, things like that, and like adobo, um, and then white rice and black beans.
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00:15:25.919Like, that's just it's what I grew up with.
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00:15:27.679It's it's my comfort food.
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00:15:30.399I was gonna say it sounds so comforting.
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00:15:31.840Yeah, yeah.
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00:15:38.080Like when when we lived in Florida, anytime I had like a really bad day, my husband would go out and get that for me.
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00:15:41.759And now he he's actually learned how to roast the chicken himself.
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00:15:46.320Like I used to be the only one that to make like the whole chicken in the oven, things like that.
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00:15:49.360But he's he's recently been learning how to make all different kinds.
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00:15:52.480We even got a smoker, and it's still a comfort meal.
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00:15:53.200Yeah.
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00:15:54.000Yeah.
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00:15:57.759And then um, it's become a comfort meal for my daughter too.
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00:16:13.600So because she's mixed, but um she definitely carries a lot of like the the the culture that I've passed on to her, like liking rice and beans and chicken and um dancing, Colombian food.
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00:16:22.639Um, and to answer your question about like who was there with me, like I usually eat it surrounded by family.
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00:16:32.639So either my parents, my sister when I was little, now my my husband and my daughter, it's just a very family-oriented meal to share.
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00:16:36.960That is so freaking heartwarming, heartwarming.
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00:16:39.440And heartwarming now.
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00:16:42.720Yum.
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00:16:50.080What's something you wish was discussed more in the magical community?
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00:17:02.720So it's talked about a lot already, um, but I don't think the how pervasive it is in the community is addressed.
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00:17:18.559And um, that's like the the kind of inherent internalized uh misogyny and racism and and and all of the bad things that the the the patriarchy kind of puts into the toxic patriarchy puts into everything, like media.
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00:17:32.720Like it's it's fun being a witch, but sometimes we'll still kind of inherently see that as like you have to be, you have to look a certain way or you have to act a certain way, and and that's not always the case.
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00:17:45.599Like me growing up um Hispanic, the witch representation I got that I loved was like Sabrina the Teenage Witch, um a lot of like Harry Potter, Harry Potter.
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00:17:59.680Um and and none of that really goes into my cultures, like different practices, um, until recently it's popped up a little bit more in in popular media, but still not a lot.
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00:18:17.119But there's a a lot of different practices between um indigenous cultures in Southern America who have like their own pantheon of deities revolved around like the sun, just like the Western or just like the European deities have.
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00:18:26.880Um, but like they have the sun, but then they have like the Andes Mountains and and the rivers and all of these different concepts.
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00:18:35.359Like uh in Colombia, we have an owl goddess that's both like she's married, but she's a rebel even to her husband.
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00:18:37.759She's a goddess of like dance and music.
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00:19:02.480She has a very like foot loose type story, or like dancing was illegal, but she liked danced anyway, and that and that's you know, it's it's it's stuff that is um a concept or an archetype through all human culture, but we were only really seeing one version of it through like the more Western European examples, and even that.
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00:19:16.240I don't know if you've um heard, but everybody knows, almost everybody knows the Odyssey with Odysseus and Athena and Poseidon, and they're making a movie of it.
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00:19:21.519Christopher Nolan's making a movie of it, um, and that's gonna release, I think, this summer.
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00:19:31.039But he's apparently, from what I hear, he's making this Odyssey movie based off of Emily Wilson's version.
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00:19:47.920And I started listening to the Emily Emily Wilson's Odyssey, and just the prologue itself was so helpful because she she tells you all of the context that you need to be aware of to understand why the Odyssey is represented the way it is.
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00:20:12.319And it's from like there's not actual one author that we can a hundred percent credit for the whole story, and how it's kind of been skewed even by like um the monarchies, whoever was royalty at the time, they would hold festivals to see who could orate the Odyssey truest to the truest to the source or the canon.
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00:20:16.720So they had like a correct way of of orating the Odyssey.
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00:20:30.079Um and then even how like slaves are depicted in the Odyssey, like it very much gives a concept of there's good slaves and there's bad slaves.
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00:20:40.079And if if you're if you're a slave that's um going against your master in any way, or you're thinking of yourself, you're a bad slave, and terrible things happen to them.
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00:20:52.400So I'm just you know, the she explains it well in a way to say like take it with a grain of salt because the Odyssey is essentially like colonial like slavery propaganda.
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00:20:55.119Wow, like the Bible.
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00:21:23.200So yeah, and there's just there's a lot of things that like dancing is sacred for a lot of indigenous indigenous um cultures and beliefs, and and it's it gets demonized in a lot of Western like anything too seductive or pro provocative gets demonized when actually like your body literally needs that to shake off trauma.
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00:21:29.759God forbid everybody, anybody take responsibility for their own reactions to what my body does.
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00:21:32.559Or what I'm wearing.
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00:21:43.279She lives near us.
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00:21:45.200She lives in Marana.
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00:21:47.599Cool, cool.
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00:21:50.799Maybe we can meet up and we can all talk about it.
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00:21:51.759Yeah.
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00:21:59.839Her name is and again I'm not sure on the pronunciation because it's it's also an indigenous word, not just Spanish, um, which that's two different things.
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00:22:05.599Anyway, but it's Huitaca, H U I T A C A.
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00:22:07.759I love her.
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00:22:12.640Uh, as soon as I read about her, I vibed with her, and then I tried to like collect more owl things.
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00:22:20.160And my daughter's favorite animal as like a baby when she was like first learning about animals was always an owl.
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00:22:23.920Um but but yeah, Huitaka, and she's really cool.
00:22:24.240 -->
00:22:25.519That is cool.
00:22:25.519 -->
00:22:35.119Do you do spells?
00:22:36.160 -->
00:22:36.799I do.
00:22:36.799 -->
00:22:37.440Okay.
00:22:37.440 -->
00:22:43.920The the main ones that I tend to do is is usually been to like help my loved ones.
00:22:43.920 -->
00:23:01.680Um we don't work there anymore, and the guy actually he worked there for even less time, but one of my um loved ones managers was just being a real like arsehole, like huge to to him specifically.
00:23:01.680 -->
00:23:07.759So we he we wrote his name down, put it in a bottle of vinegar, put that in the freezer.
00:23:07.759 -->
00:23:11.920So the whole the good old name in the freezer thing.
00:23:11.920 -->
00:23:22.880Um which a lot of people will do like as like folky practices, not even if they don't consider themselves witches entirely, but that was one that I do.
00:23:22.880 -->
00:23:37.359Um I guess what makes it more witchy when I do stuff is like I'll I'll ask for help from like a sp our spirit team, um, call in the the like northwest, southeast, not in that order necessarily, but yeah.
00:23:37.359 -->
00:23:48.640Um that's when I do a I a lot, and then I do some candle magic and a lot of gratitude practices for my um my spirit team.
00:23:50.480 -->
00:23:52.079What do you do for that?
00:23:53.359 -->
00:24:10.400Um so I take a lot of it from like Dia de los Muertos, where um when you're honoring you your dead loved ones on Day of the Dead, you like leave food or specific type of flowers or incense for them.
00:24:10.400 -->
00:24:15.440Um so I'll I'll get like dried rose petals.
00:24:15.440 -->
00:24:28.160Like if I forget flowers or something or find a flower and like let it dry out, I'll keep the ro the petals and like sprinkle that, um essential oils, just whatever I think is nice at the time.
00:24:28.160 -->
00:24:31.680Um do you have an altar?
00:24:31.680 -->
00:24:33.839Kind of.
00:24:33.839 -->
00:24:43.359Like um my my whole family's uh aware of my spirituality, so I do keep like I kind of keep things everywhere.
00:24:43.359 -->
00:24:52.960Um my house stays a mess, to be honest, so there's not really a good dedicated place that wouldn't be like knocked down by cats either.
00:24:52.960 -->
00:24:54.640I have four cats.
00:24:54.640 -->
00:25:13.519So um right now I have my kitchen bar has um has three candles um for different deities, and then uh a water fountain that is currently not running because it dried out and I haven't cleaned it up to put water back in it.
00:25:13.519 -->
00:25:16.559That's cool.
00:25:16.559 -->
00:25:32.000I'm also like of that kind of animist or like um I think it's called Jinto in Japanese, where like you you kind of believe everything has its own spirit.
00:25:32.000 -->
00:25:44.319So I acknowledge that my house has its own spirit and um although like the whole house is an altar in a way, too.
00:25:45.039 -->
00:25:54.960Oh that's oh that is gonna require some thought for me later.
00:25:54.960 -->
00:26:03.839Can you compare the first spell you ever tried with the most recent one you've done?
00:26:04.799 -->
00:26:05.440Yes.
00:26:05.440 -->
00:26:14.000Um so when I was like a teenager, and my parents were never really super religious.
00:26:14.000 -->
00:26:26.799We we went to church occasionally, but my mother actually took out a book from the library on Wicca and um she was reading it, but of course I was like sneaking reading it too.
00:26:26.799 -->
00:26:53.599And um one of the first things it said was to like just stare at a candle, just like stare at the flame and like see if you can like make it move or see anything in it, and it was I'm a pyromaniac, so I like I played with matches as a kid and everything, so I um I definitely just like stared at it and just enjoyed staring at the flame.
00:26:53.599 -->
00:27:03.839Um so that that I consider like my first spell spell, but you know, like kids kind of have their own way of doing little manifestation magic.
00:27:03.839 -->
00:27:07.200I know mine does, she gets whatever she wants most of the time.
00:27:07.200 -->
00:27:29.759Um and then most recently it was um uh candle magic again to help ease a transition because I had um we got we have a few chicks and we had two turkey chicks, and then um one unfortunately wasn't thriving.
00:27:29.759 -->
00:27:38.720So I brought her inside to try and see like perk her up and get her to start eating again, and and it just wasn't happening.
00:27:38.720 -->
00:27:40.720So I made her as comfortable as possible.
00:27:40.720 -->
00:27:48.319I lit uh a candle for her and then like prayed for her transition to be comfortable at least.
00:27:48.319 -->
00:27:50.640Um, so kind.
00:27:50.640 -->
00:27:53.440Yeah, that night was when she passed.
00:27:54.799 -->
00:27:55.920That's so kind.
00:27:55.920 -->
00:27:56.160I...
00:27:56.160 -->
00:27:57.359that's nice.
00:27:57.359 -->
00:27:59.279That's sweet.
00:28:01.359 -->
00:28:09.680I'm very yeah, I'm very um, you know, some some people don't believe animals have souls and stuff, but I I could never believe that.
00:28:09.759 -->
00:28:11.440Like that's a bizarre thought.
00:28:11.599 -->
00:28:21.039Um like I've I've mourned every pet, and sometimes it's hard for me to like to even like step on an ant.
00:28:21.039 -->
00:28:23.200I'm like, oh no.
00:28:23.200 -->
00:28:25.519Like, yeah.
00:28:25.519 -->
00:28:33.359Um my and and you you know, but my daughter loves bugs, and uh it's probably just because I I'm so reverent to everything now.
00:28:33.359 -->
00:28:35.279She just like brings all the bugs in.
00:28:35.279 -->
00:28:38.720I'm like, okay, I guess we have to take care of this now.
00:28:43.279 -->
00:28:47.519What two people have had the biggest influence on your practice?
00:28:50.000 -->
00:28:55.759So um in Florida, I started going to a woman's circle.
00:28:55.759 -->
00:29:15.759And I I did a lot of research on my own beforehand on like witchy stuff, listened to a lot of podcasts, but um in Florida, uh, the first woman's circle that I went to, um, she was like a former yoga teacher turned like spiritual facilitator.
00:29:15.759 -->
00:29:18.079She does women's retreats and everything.
00:29:18.079 -->
00:29:24.160Um her name is Jen Jennifer Wyatt, and she's um part of Wander Free Wellness.
00:29:24.160 -->
00:29:29.839She was able to really just hold space for everyone, like witchy or not.
00:29:29.839 -->
00:29:44.480And it just so happened that the first one I went to was a Sowain woman's circle, and it was very witchy, and I was just bawling the whole time because I was like, oh my god, it's safe to be like witchy in front of these people.
00:29:44.480 -->
00:29:52.480She's like encouraging it, and and like even though the like ladies there that weren't witchy, they were like having fun and dancing and saying stuff.
00:29:52.480 -->
00:30:05.519So it was it was just such like a freeing experience to to see the ability to practice like in public in a way, um, be safe and okay.
00:30:05.519 -->
00:30:21.519And um more recently I I was finally attuned for Reiki locally here in Tucson by Michelle Ojeda, I think it's pronounced.
00:30:21.519 -->
00:30:38.160Um, but Michelle's such a sweet soul, and I was going to her for a couple years for Reiki for me and my husband, and it always like either shifted something in us or helped us understand or just have more capacity for life.
00:30:38.160 -->
00:30:56.480Um so I've been I've been told by palm readers before that I would have like I have Reiki hands or have like good energy for Reiki, but I never really like looked into it that much until I found out that she did classes and she's more of a teacher now.
00:30:56.480 -->
00:31:02.000She still has her she still does her own practice, but she she definitely teaches a lot and has a lot of students.
00:31:02.000 -->
00:31:06.480So I finally went to her and got a tune, so I'm Reiki level one now.
00:31:06.480 -->
00:31:08.400That's cool.
00:31:08.400 -->
00:31:09.200Yeah.
00:31:09.200 -->
00:31:10.720And she it's she's cool.
00:31:10.720 -->
00:31:21.440She shares a lot of the beliefs that I do in a way of like there's there's a structure and there's rules to almost every practice, but really sticking for what resonates with you.
00:31:21.440 -->
00:31:27.039And because even even with Reiki, it's it's not like a one size fits all.
00:31:27.039 -->
00:31:32.160Like some people get tingling in their hands, some people get tingling in their heart, like almost like heartburn.
00:31:32.160 -->
00:31:36.240Like it's everybody's body's different and everybody's spirit's different.
00:31:36.240 -->
00:31:43.599So she really understands that, and she doesn't try to make people feel guilty if they don't follow the rules to a T, you know?
00:31:43.599 -->
00:31:44.720And I need that.
00:31:44.720 -->
00:31:47.839That's nice.
00:31:49.519 -->
00:31:53.839Do you remember a time when somebody was the most kind to you?
00:31:57.680 -->
00:32:05.039So there's there's been plenty of times where people have been kind, right?
00:32:05.039 -->
00:32:09.839Um, but sometimes it's like those random acts of kindness that like stand out.
00:32:09.839 -->
00:32:26.960And unfortunately, like as a kid, I more most of my memories with adults are are of them being mean to me in some way, either like about my weight or my grades, or like find a reason.
00:32:26.960 -->
00:32:32.319They're they're they they have something to say that about something you could do better, right?
00:32:32.319 -->
00:32:35.920So I was on a really, really low spot.
00:32:35.920 -->
00:32:38.160Um, I think I was only like 15.
00:32:38.160 -->
00:32:49.839Um, and me and my sister were home alone, which like we were kind of used to, but you know, as a teenager you start getting like really angsty and like uh why me?
00:32:49.839 -->
00:32:57.279Um and my sister and I had gotten into a fight, which we did all the time.
00:32:57.279 -->
00:32:59.440Like we kind of lived constantly stressed out.
00:32:59.440 -->
00:33:00.799Oh your siblings.
00:33:00.799 -->
00:33:03.519Yeah, yeah, okay, yes.
00:33:05.039 -->
00:33:05.839That's how it works.
00:33:06.079 -->
00:33:09.839It's just like I had to be like I had to be like her mom is the thing.
00:33:09.839 -->
00:33:18.720So whenever I think about yeah, whenever I think about like how much we fought and stuff when she needed a mother, like it which it it shouldn't have been my job.
00:33:18.720 -->
00:33:22.240Like we're only like three and a half years apart, but like so.
00:33:22.240 -->
00:33:29.200Whenever I look back on it, I feel I still kind of feel guilty that I wasn't like a better mom for her, but you know, I was also a kid.
00:33:29.200 -->
00:33:38.400Anyway, so I was 15 and and it was a particularly loud fight, and we lived like in a duplex and kind of a not so great area.
00:33:38.400 -->
00:33:59.119And um our newest neighbor in the duplex, like she could hear us screaming, so she came over and was knocking on the door, and I wasn't gonna answer it at first, and I forget why I opened the door, but I I opened the door, and um I think she saw me crying, and she just gave me like the biggest hug.
00:33:59.119 -->
00:34:02.480And I like still think about that.
00:34:02.480 -->
00:34:04.400Like I know I don't know her name.
00:34:04.400 -->
00:34:09.679I don't we never really like talked or socialized beyond that, but I don't know.
00:34:09.679 -->
00:34:15.599Like she need she sensed that I just like needed a hug, and she just like hugged me for a minute or so.
00:34:16.559 -->
00:34:18.159That woman is a witch.
00:34:18.480 -->
00:34:19.119Yeah.
00:34:19.119 -->
00:34:20.960Probably.
00:34:22.639 -->
00:34:24.159Holy crap.
00:34:24.159 -->
00:34:28.400That would scare the life out of me now, but yeah.
00:34:29.519 -->
00:34:38.079I know there's like a lot of things like I got lost as like a little kid, and um, like I fell asleep while they were getting their car.
00:34:38.079 -->
00:34:42.320My parents are getting their car fixed, and then when I woke up, they weren't there anymore.
00:34:42.320 -->
00:34:53.599So I I was like five and I like ran out, and some like nice old Hispanic lady found me in the parking lot, and then she walked towards a car, and I was like excited to get into their car.
00:34:53.599 -->
00:34:55.840Like I wanted to get into their car.
00:34:55.840 -->
00:35:06.719No, but then they were like, no, we're gonna go inside to the the store and um have them call on the intercom for your parents, and I was like, Oh, okay.
00:35:08.159 -->
00:35:11.039Reminds me of all those cute puppy stories.
00:35:11.039 -->
00:35:14.000You just jumped in the seat, I don't know.
00:35:14.000 -->
00:35:15.760Now the worst.
00:35:18.079 -->
00:35:18.960I was about.
00:35:18.960 -->
00:35:27.599Uh my I think my parents felt so bad they got me like a new a new watch, which at the time, like a little digital watch, was like hot shit.
00:35:27.599 -->
00:35:28.079Yeah.
00:35:28.079 -->
00:35:30.320And and it was Mortal Kombat themes.
00:35:30.320 -->
00:35:32.079They had like, yeah.
00:35:32.079 -->
00:35:38.400I think my neighbor had Mortal Kombat and I was like obsessed with it at the time.
00:35:40.960 -->
00:35:44.079Yeah, a watch with buttons was fancy time.
00:35:44.079 -->
00:35:44.960Yeah.
00:35:45.440 -->
00:35:49.840Back in the early 90s, the late 1900s.
00:35:51.280 -->
00:35:52.320Oh my god.
00:35:52.719 -->
00:35:53.360I know.
00:35:53.920 -->
00:35:55.039Oh my god.
00:35:55.039 -->
00:35:59.760Uh who do you think I should have on the show?
00:36:01.039 -->
00:36:08.400I I was talking about you with Michelle, my Reiki mentor, and I definitely think she'd be a great person to have on the show.
00:36:08.400 -->
00:36:15.760She has like a lot of really cool stories, and and with all her experience with Reiki, like I didn't have enough time to even like hear them all.
00:36:15.760 -->
00:36:19.039So I'd love for you to extract them from her.
00:36:22.639 -->
00:36:23.280On it.
00:36:23.280 -->
00:36:28.480Is there anything else you wanted to bring up?
00:36:28.480 -->
00:36:30.480Any anything going on with you?
00:36:30.480 -->
00:36:31.920Anything you want to shout out?
00:36:31.920 -->
00:36:35.199Anything I didn't ask you that you wanted to talk about?
00:36:35.199 -->
00:36:36.960Any questions you've had for me?
00:36:37.360 -->
00:36:50.159If you want, we could talk about uh a little bit about your natal chart, and maybe if there's anything that's qu qu questioning that you're questioning, I can see if I can help you with with it if you're open to that.
00:36:50.159 -->
00:36:50.960Okay.
00:36:50.960 -->
00:36:54.639To be honest, I forgot your star sign.
00:36:54.639 -->
00:36:57.599Wait, Joe, you do use it here, Taurus.
00:36:58.719 -->
00:36:59.360I did.
00:36:59.920 -->
00:37:00.239Okay.
00:37:00.239 -->
00:37:02.800Happy belated birthday, Taurus.
00:37:06.800 -->
00:37:08.320Thanks! So Jupiter.
00:37:08.320 -->
00:37:14.719Is it in Taurus now, or did it some or maybe it was that Uranus left Taurus?
00:37:14.719 -->
00:37:17.280Something big just happened.
00:37:19.199 -->
00:37:21.039Oh, so a recent big transit.
00:37:21.280 -->
00:37:22.880And I don't remember which one it was.
00:37:22.880 -->
00:37:24.480I think it might be both.
00:37:24.800 -->
00:37:28.719When big transits, I I think of all of this as like astrological weather.
00:37:28.719 -->
00:37:30.480Like, how's the weather today?
00:37:30.480 -->
00:37:32.239Is Mercury doing something?
00:37:32.239 -->
00:37:32.800Yeah.
00:37:32.800 -->
00:37:34.000Um, yeah.
00:37:34.000 -->
00:37:41.920I'm I'm not I'm not as much of a a forecaster as I am just like uh interpreter.
00:37:41.920 -->
00:37:51.360So um typically what I'll do is I I'll go to like those influencers that are forecasters and then like hear what they say, but then kind of interpret in my own way.
00:37:51.360 -->
00:37:51.679Yeah.
00:37:51.679 -->
00:38:03.119Um so Jupiter itself, the Greek equivalent is Zeus, and that's the the energy of Jupiter is of expansion.
00:38:03.119 -->
00:38:13.119Sometimes I get considered like luck or fortune, but really like whatever's going on in Jupiter, um, where that is in your birth chart, it'll expand to that.
00:38:13.119 -->
00:38:17.360So for me as an example, my Jupiter is in cancer.
00:38:17.360 -->
00:38:26.559So um I have big like family energy, like creating um like a safe space for multiple people.
00:38:26.559 -->
00:38:31.280Like I think that's part of the reason why like I I gravitate towards kids a lot.
00:38:31.280 -->
00:38:44.239Um, me and my husband, we're we're from the same grade class in high school, and um so we have a lot of similar outer planets, like his Jupiter's and Cancer 2, Pluto and Scorpio.
00:38:44.239 -->
00:38:48.639That's like everybody of a generation has similar outer planets.
00:38:48.639 -->
00:38:56.079Um, but what I find like with him is we'll kind of um mesh together that way.
00:38:56.079 -->
00:39:00.000Like we were considered like the Pixar parents wherever we hung out.
00:39:00.000 -->
00:39:03.119Um, and that was like before we had kids.
00:39:03.119 -->
00:39:10.239So um it it it's because like we were just really good at being kind of like the mom and dad of the group.
00:39:10.239 -->
00:39:14.800Like he would make sure everybody had like the right structure or was like playing.
00:39:14.800 -->
00:39:18.320We played a lot of card games, so like Magic the Gathering.
00:39:18.320 -->
00:39:22.639Um we've played Yu-Gi-Oh for a hot minute, but not really.
00:39:22.639 -->
00:39:30.960Um, but like Magic the Gathering, there used to be an old Marvel DC uh card game and then a World of Warcraft card game were our main big ones.
00:39:30.960 -->
00:39:51.119Um, but he would like build the decks for everybody, and then I would like vibe check everyone and make sure everybody was like happy, but also not being bullies because like I was the only girl, so when they started being, you know, like misogynistic or cursing in front of children, I would be the one to be like, hey, no.
00:39:51.119 -->
00:39:53.039Good, don't do that.
00:39:54.159 -->
00:39:59.039So um my Jupiter is in Capricorn.
00:39:59.440 -->
00:40:01.920Capricorn, very cool, that's cool.
00:40:01.920 -->
00:40:34.800So stereotypically, Capricorn's like the the like hard worker and also like obsessed with money, and um the stereotype is there because so Capricorn is a cardinal sign of winter, so um right as fall is ending, and then winter like the harsh winter, like the actual not so fun parts of like the winter um, I guess, scarcity that starts coming up.
00:40:34.800 -->
00:40:52.639Um, Capricorn is there to make sure everybody's in line and usually like following traditional like rules for how to conserve uh food, uh resources, and um make sure everybody's like aligned together to keep the village going.
00:40:52.639 -->
00:40:54.079Does that make sense?
00:40:54.079 -->
00:40:55.039Yeah.
00:40:55.039 -->
00:40:56.239Yeah.
00:40:56.239 -->
00:40:57.519Yeah.
00:40:57.519 -->
00:41:04.239Whereas the next the next sign after you is Aquarius, they're the the fixed sign of winter.
00:41:04.239 -->
00:41:12.559Um so it's like the dead of winter, um, mid-winter, and Aquarius are typically um known for being innovative.
00:41:12.559 -->
00:41:25.440So while Capricorn like uses traditional methods to try and keep resources um available, Aquarius may be the one having to face like, okay, we've used up our resources somehow.
00:41:25.440 -->
00:41:29.760Some that means something's changed, something's different, the traditional way is not working.
00:41:29.760 -->
00:41:32.719Let me go find like literally the water bearer.
00:41:32.719 -->
00:41:38.639Let me go find where we can get water from, like where we can tap into more resources and then bring that back to the village.
00:41:40.159 -->
00:41:45.119That was a good that was good.
00:41:45.920 -->
00:41:46.559Yeah.
00:41:46.559 -->
00:41:57.599And there's more where that came from if you go to Ivy Tuning In um on TikTok, Instagram, and website uh ivytuningin.com.
00:42:01.519 -->
00:42:04.480So I ask two things of my guests.
00:42:04.480 -->
00:42:06.159I mean far more than that.
00:42:06.159 -->
00:42:08.559But we're at the part where I say this part.
00:42:08.559 -->
00:42:09.360Okay.
00:42:09.360 -->
00:42:12.480Can you recommend something to listeners?
00:42:12.480 -->
00:42:21.519It doesn't have to be witch related at all, just whatever cool thing you've run across this week that you want to tell people about, like, hey, you should try this new sandwich at wherever.
00:42:21.519 -->
00:42:22.400Oh, okay.
00:42:22.400 -->
00:42:23.440Something like that.
00:42:23.440 -->
00:42:24.880Anything at all.
00:42:27.360 -->
00:42:27.679Okay.
00:42:27.679 -->
00:42:46.400So um I was yesterday years old when I found out that there's an earth placement that not a lot of astrologers, I guess, work with, um, and it's called Gaia, and it sits exactly opposite of your sun.
00:42:46.400 -->
00:42:52.320So I'm an Aries sun, and my Gaia would be Libra.
00:42:52.320 -->
00:42:57.599And supposedly your Gaia is what can help ground you.
00:42:57.599 -->
00:43:13.440And um, I have a lot of earth placements, and I feel like I can't I can ground myself if need me, but um I've had this like angsty um like oh, what's the word?
00:43:13.440 -->
00:43:22.559Hesitance, hesitance towards Libra and like Libra energies, because I don't have Libra anywhere in my chart, I guess, other than Gaia, now that I realize that's my Gaia.
00:43:22.559 -->
00:43:31.599Um, and I used to not like Virgo energy that much until I realized um it's my rising sign, so Virgo is my rising sign.
00:43:31.599 -->
00:43:37.679So usually if you're having a hesitance or towards something, it absolutely 100% has to do with you.
00:43:37.679 -->
00:43:45.760And um you can either do shadow work and some inner work to figure out like why do I feel negative about this or judgmental about this certain thing.
00:43:45.760 -->
00:43:57.360Um so um my Gaia sign is something I'm I'm looking into for Libra, and there's probably some like Libra vibe stuff that would be really grounding for me.
00:43:57.360 -->
00:43:59.760Like, I know I'm working on like self care Libra.
00:43:59.760 -->
00:44:16.239Libra is ruled by Venus, so Aphrodite, and there's a lot of like self-love practices that I'm like trying to start doing, and I was like, okay, maybe I need to look into some Libra stuff and see how that could what resonates with with me and what would work for me.
00:44:17.440 -->
00:44:24.800So if there is something in that like minus Scorpio Yes.
00:44:24.800 -->
00:44:28.800So if you have some a placement in there.
00:44:28.800 -->
00:44:31.440Huh.
00:44:31.440 -->
00:44:35.920My Lilith is in Scorpio.
00:44:35.920 -->
00:44:37.039That's interesting.
00:44:37.119 -->
00:44:39.679So my Lilith is in Scorpio too.
00:44:39.679 -->
00:44:46.480My husband's a Scorpio, so he he sometimes he'll address my Lilith directly.
00:44:46.480 -->
00:44:48.079Like, I see you there, Lilith.
00:44:48.079 -->
00:44:51.119And he calls out like my brat energy.
00:44:51.119 -->
00:44:53.679You know what?
00:44:53.679 -->
00:44:55.039That makes sense.
00:44:55.039 -->
00:45:10.000But yeah, no, Lilith Lilith is cool and you know, very there's a lot like a huge part of the feminine that's suppressed, and it's that's the part where we call call people out.
00:45:10.000 -->
00:45:17.039And that's like Lilith, just like call people out, call them out on their shit, and like you expect that change.
00:45:17.039 -->
00:45:26.960You know, like I the the the like the feminine response of like I deserve better, you need to change your shit or or this won't work type thing.
00:45:28.639 -->
00:45:30.800That sounds very Taurus to me.
00:45:31.119 -->
00:45:35.679Yeah, well, Taurus is also ruled by Venus.
00:45:35.679 -->
00:45:51.119So yeah, I think maybe there's just like a whole there's there's like there's feminine energies that kind of are all all encompassing and and it's and I and I don't necessarily mean like that means only women experience it.
00:45:51.119 -->
00:45:55.199No, like we all have like feminine and masculine energies inside us.
00:45:55.199 -->
00:46:00.880So like technically my Aries son is uh more masculine energy.
00:46:00.880 -->
00:46:04.719Um and it it all balances itself out because we're all whole humans.
00:46:04.719 -->
00:46:06.880We're we're not just one thing, you know?
00:46:07.360 -->
00:46:07.840Yeah.
00:46:07.840 -->
00:46:08.719Yeah.
00:46:08.719 -->
00:46:14.000So the next thing is please tell me a story.
00:46:14.000 -->
00:46:26.239It can be a story that you heard in childhood that you like, or it's a story about let me not say about a story from your life that you like telling.
00:46:28.719 -->
00:46:39.199So I've talked about cats a bit already, so I'm just gonna I'm gonna kind of go to the origin story of my obsession with cats.
00:46:39.199 -->
00:46:39.440Yeah.
00:46:39.440 -->
00:46:40.960Um yay.
00:46:40.960 -->
00:46:44.480So I was actually born in Southern California.
00:46:44.480 -->
00:46:46.239California girl.
00:46:46.239 -->
00:46:51.920And um it was like a more urban area that we lived in, uh, Van Aye.
00:46:51.920 -->
00:46:58.719And um we always lived in apartment complexes that had like a ton of stray cats.
00:46:58.719 -->
00:47:09.440And one of these apartment complexes, um, it had like a connected big backyard that was like all concrete, and then went downstairs to the actual street for parking.
00:47:09.440 -->
00:47:18.000Um, so it was like a almost like a big elevated back alley, and then we could cats, we've gotten up, we've gotten possums back there.
00:47:18.000 -->
00:47:29.039And I remember one day I was in the back in just like a kiddie pool, and um one of the cats came up, and I really wanted to play with the cat, but I also didn't want to get out of the pool.
00:47:29.039 -->
00:47:33.920So this is like where my cat whisper origin started.
00:47:33.920 -->
00:47:38.400Like I convinced that cat, I think I was I was like four or five.
00:47:38.400 -->
00:47:43.840Um, I convinced that cat to come in the pool with me, and I was just like, kiddie, kitty, kitty, kitty.
00:47:43.840 -->
00:47:54.159And then it came in and I grabbed it and just like held it there, screaming for my mom to come see uh and ask if we could keep it.
00:47:54.159 -->
00:48:02.559So we did end up keeping it, but like we we have kept cats, so they they would still go out and come back.
00:48:02.559 -->
00:48:06.639So it was more of just like a street cat that we fed, but yeah.
00:48:06.639 -->
00:48:09.199That was my cat whisperer origin.
00:48:13.679 -->
00:48:16.400Okay, do you want to try and craft a spell together?
00:48:18.400 -->
00:48:20.320I uh should I grab anything?
00:48:21.119 -->
00:48:22.239Only make-believe.
00:48:22.639 -->
00:48:24.000Make-believe, okay.
00:48:25.119 -->
00:48:33.360So the way I do things is I just decide, oh, I need to do whatever.
00:48:33.360 -->
00:48:46.079And then I just wander around and until something says, hey, you know this uh let's what do I have in front of me here?
00:48:46.079 -->
00:48:54.079This 20-sided die is really sparkly.
00:48:54.079 -->
00:48:57.119What am I gonna l uh this is this is just an example.
00:48:57.119 -->
00:49:09.920Like I I would s I could use this to symbolize chance or I could pick a number and just put use that as the focal point.
00:49:09.920 -->
00:49:12.000Um that's how I do things.
00:49:12.000 -->
00:49:18.159So first we have to figure out what we're trying to do and then see if how how do you do things like that?
00:49:18.159 -->
00:49:21.519How do you decide how you're gonna start your working?
00:49:23.280 -->
00:49:24.719That's a good question.
00:49:24.719 -->
00:49:45.920I kind of um if if there's like a need, I um I find out if there's like a deity associated with it, or if there's like um like a stone or plant that I have on hand, or even like a color associated with the vibe, and then I just do stuff with that.
00:49:45.920 -->
00:49:47.280Typically it's a candle.
00:49:47.280 -->
00:49:49.199Candle's my go-to for me.
00:49:49.199 -->
00:50:07.920So um either a white candle or um correlating to the color and then sprinkle uh herbs or flower petals, um, a dab, a dab or dash of uh essential oil, and then just like set my intention.
00:50:07.920 -->
00:50:11.119And I don't even really like say anything, I just kind of like set my intention.
00:50:11.119 -->
00:50:12.719Yeah.
00:50:15.280 -->
00:50:16.239Let's say.
00:50:18.000 -->
00:50:21.760Or we can make up like a cool rhyming, like an actual spell.
00:50:23.840 -->
00:50:25.039That's a little more ambitious.
00:50:25.280 -->
00:50:27.599Yeah, it's a little more ambitious.
00:50:28.880 -->
00:50:34.800I actually am okay at doing that with other people, but I can't that's not something I can do by myself.
00:50:34.800 -->
00:50:39.280Because once it's my brain is like, okay, this is the word I thought of.
00:50:39.280 -->
00:50:41.840That's the only word you can think of for the next 20 minutes.
00:50:41.840 -->
00:50:44.000And I'm like, oh great, thanks.
00:50:44.000 -->
00:50:45.039That's funny.
00:50:45.039 -->
00:50:45.760Pigeon.
00:50:45.760 -->
00:50:47.440What okay, great.
00:50:47.440 -->
00:50:51.679We're just thinking about pigeons for 20 minutes, and I can't what rhymes?
00:50:51.679 -->
00:50:52.239I don't know.
00:50:52.239 -->
00:50:53.840Just think about pigeons.
00:50:53.840 -->
00:50:57.360So that's why having another person helps.
00:50:57.360 -->
00:50:58.400Okay.
00:50:58.400 -->
00:51:01.280Um, let's see what we're gonna think.
00:51:01.280 -->
00:51:04.079What we what what's the what are we doing it for?
00:51:04.559 -->
00:51:04.880Okay.
00:51:04.880 -->
00:51:14.719So it's Wednesday, which is associated with like Odin or Mercury, like Hermes, like the messenger god.
00:51:14.719 -->
00:51:17.360So typically Wednesday is a good day for messages.
00:51:17.360 -->
00:51:21.920And then Hermes can also rule like your inner dialogue.
00:51:21.920 -->
00:51:28.000Um, so maybe we can do like a spell for better self-talk.
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