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And Josh, why do we do this? Hey? Just before
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we start, guests, who just became an insane uncle?
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Really?
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Yeah? First time?
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Wow?
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Boy or girl? It's a boy name, Archie your Hanna's Colbot.
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What great carrying on the family name because I am
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sure as.
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Hell imagine that signature.
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Yeah, it's gonna be cool. Baby, can't wait.
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I'm gonna I'm gonna send that kids so many books.
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Welcome, Welcome, everybody, Welcome back to Why do we do this?
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It's great to be back. It's great to be back.
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And we are continuing almost halfway through our act to
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act too of the podcast as we're calling.
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It, and we have an amazing guest for tonight.
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We've got an astounding guest for tonight, and I'm very excited.
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But I think before, just before we go, let's introduce
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what the podcast is about.
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Well, first of all, I just have to ask you
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you are now an uncle? Yes, yes, congratulations.
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I am a crazy uncle. Josh, You're always going to
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be crazy, but an uncle, it's going to be mad.
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Already planning the science books that I'm going to send them.
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I've got my whooping cough vaccine ready to go, so
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I can hold the baby, which I haven't held a
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baby ever. I don't know what happens, but.
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Yeah, you just want be fine by the head. And anyway,
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we're not here to talk about that. We are here
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to talk about theater. We're here to talk about amateur theater.
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Why people do the things that we do. Why do
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we do this?
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Why do we do theater that requires so much energy, time,
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money and everything else? Relationships? But what a payoff and
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what a reward. But I'm very excited because the person
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that we are interviewing tonight is basically responsible. I think
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for most of my wardrobe, true, because this person knows
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my measurements, and if she sees something in an up
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shop she's like, no, it could fit Josh. Usually it does,
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and then I wear it for the rest of the years.
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She's probably been.
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In your middle thigh more than she.
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Has dressed me.
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She has.
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When I've had a thousand costume changes, she has gone,
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you're this character she's putting on her jacket. I'm talking
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about Vicky Burrett, who is here. Thank you for being here, Vic,
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Thank you. So I've always seen you as you know,
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costume extraordinay and you know, dressing me in times of
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abject panic. How did you get to that state? What
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got you into getting involved with theater?
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Well, I grew up in a theatrical family in Sydney
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and my grandparents, my parents, my aunts, my uncle were
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all involved with amateur theater. Wow and yeah, so I
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watched theater from a very early age. But none of
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the grandchildren were ever encouraged to go into it.
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Why is that, do you think?
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Well, my dad said, I wasn't allowed to go to football,
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I wasn't allowed to have a life. Every Saturday had
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danced singing.
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You know.
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He felt that he missed out.
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Because he was to do the theater.
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Yeah, well it sort of just became routine, like you
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know you do scouts on a Friday. Well, no, it
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was singing or whatever. So you know, he worked with
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June Bronhill.
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I don't know if you know who is that.
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She's famous opera singer the name. So he was with
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her an amateur theater, yes, at Cora Cogra Musical Society.
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So we used to go to the after after show
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parties as well.
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Ah. So did his parents push him into it?
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I think it was just their way of life. Like
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my grand they had a ballet school.
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Oh my gosh, wow.
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With her brother. Yeah, it was all that was just
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their life, you know. Yes, yeah, So I used to
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watch all the shows and then they only had a
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few parties. But dad had a little station wagon, so
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he set up a bed in the back for my
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brother and I. So we would go to all the
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parties and we'd sleep in the.
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Gar fantastic what's Harry Gwendolen? Beautiful name? Yeah? And how
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did they meet?
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In a musical? And my arm named after that musical?
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Victoria and her his hours.
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Oh wow, that's a very obscure musical and.
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Nobody's heard of it. I've got the music, but it's
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all in German.
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And your spelling is also the I k.
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From Wow.
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Okay?
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Yeah, And I guess when we moved from Sydney, and
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it was Kevin who introduced me to the theater here.
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He said, I think I I'll go an audition for
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one of those kids plays Pye Piper.
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He knew somebody, this is Kevin your husband.
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Kevin my husband, and they said, he said, oh, they
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need somebody to help with costumes.
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And what theatergree was that stelling players? So you moved
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from Sydney to Augate.
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Yes, in nineteen eighty and then we became involved with
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stelling players. I think was the end of that year
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and he was in a few shows and I just
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kept doing costumes. I was only on stage once and
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I absolutely hated it.
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What was the show?
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I had to dance with somebody and I was just shaking.
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I thought, no, this is this is just not for me.
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So I prefer costume so stealing. You're involved in sewing
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from nineteen eighty eighty.
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To two thousand, Oh my god.
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And then you've been involved in sewing since then, on
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and off.
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It's about forty years. And Kevin used to build sets
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and he's directed to plays and I directed one play
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and I would never do it again, Secret Bridesmaid's Business.
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And why wouldn't you do it again? How do you
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find that?
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Found it really stressful? Yeah? And I realized I have
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no skills to direct people I'm good at you know,
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they all look beautiful, but I think it was pretty boring. Well,
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you know when I look at the way Dave directs.
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And I think I just.
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Put everything into it, you know, and they understand the
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whole genre. I didn't really do you think having giving
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it a go, though I can't say I have directed
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once with with Maxine Grooble.
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And do you think having done it now has that
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influenced the way that you design and do costumes?
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H No, I think I think it was just a
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bit of a flair really, you know, I just had
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Jeff Britten, he knew what he wanted and the cast,
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you know, and then we had a huge costume room
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there that I could always access, Yes, and then meeting Robin,
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Rob Andrew Arthur.
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And Dave seems that always have a color palette always.
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Yeah, and the period piece and a sewing, sewing, and
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then there was a lady called Patiatheton and she did
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Hobson's choice. That was a real That was the first
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period piece that I've done. And we chose curtain fabric,
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which made everybody sweat because aspiring. But so that was Yeah.
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So when you you get a period piece, what are
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the key challenges that you have to overcome straight away?
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Straight away you have to try and make people look good.
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And is that making sure that the measurements not so
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much fit the costume, but making sure that the costume
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fits the Yeah, that's.
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Right, And you know back in the day in the
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eighteen they didn't actually stretch their arms, do you know
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what I mean? So the cut of it was quite different,
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and that was a new thing to me.
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What do you mean the restrictive nature of.
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The dream Women's in particular. Yeah, they just they didn't
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do work. They just saturn.
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So wow, yeah, that's different. So when you back in
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nineteen eighty, Yeah, and you first did the costumes, what
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stopped you from going on? I don't want to.
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Do this like the end result, you know. And I
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like making people look good on stage. That's always been
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I don't want anybody to look like rubbish.
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Yes, I like them to.
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And you can feel good, you can own the image
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a bit too. Yeah. I helped to make that happen.
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Yeah, that's right. And if people feel good, they relax
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and improve their performance, I think.
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And what about stealing players back then? Attracted you and
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Kevin to stay with them for over forty years, Like
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that's well.
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We had friends that we'd met. It was like, you know,
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lots of friends, and we had a really great committee
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and people were committed. They had their own roles and
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they stuck to that and we worked well as a team.
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To get a production going, and yeah, we just had
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really good company and they sort of like Tracy Walker
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became family.
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Yes, because when we spoke to her, she said that
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she moved up to the hills and was like, oh,
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do might give this a go? And yeah, that's right.
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Yeah, she knocked on the front door, high I've come
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to get some and so and then Kevin talked to
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her into being secretary. But you know, our kids looked
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after her kids babysat so she could do things. And
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it's just continued on.
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So how long did it take for you to get
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onto the committee after joining up and doing that costumes
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for that first show, to then getting onto the committee
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it's stealing places.
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Only a few years really.
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Yeah, wow, it doesn't take long to get on that committee.
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No, No, they always need people and there were people
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who were retiring, so it's sort of of work.
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What's the hardest thing about being on a committee for
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a theater group?
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Do you think choosing a play, agreeing on it, and
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also just the commitment. You know, it was three nights
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a week for six months of the year, basically the
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same as if you performing, you know, and then extra meetings.
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this is a working committee, like everyone on the community
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is expected to chip in and help out.
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And yeah that's right. Yeah, well, Kevin and Morris used
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to do the set and Laurie would often do the program.
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Laurie I do costumes, production management. And then you know,
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Heather was president for a while, yes, ten years or so,
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and yeah, we just we just all worked really well
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together and it was quite pleasant. But then when our
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family grew, I realized I was sort of missing out
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on birthdays and those of things that take your time.
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That's kind of what we're getting into. It is like
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when does that family overtake the actual family?
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Yeah that's right, that's right. And I'd say I've got
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to go now.
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I've got to go now. Oh sorry, I can't make
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that cake. Yeah.
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So yeah, none of it was good.
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It was good because I think like the backstage people
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kind of really do get overlooked in you know, in
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like whether it be.
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I could not have done Man in Havana without VICKI.
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No one, none of us could.
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A real team.
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I could not have done it.
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But I think that's that's every show, right, So being
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on the committee for close to forty years, right, how
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do you get those people that don't want the applause,
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who don't want to just want to see that beautiful
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end result at the end of a show. Is that
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Does that take a particular type of person or is
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it because or did you just go, oh, I can't
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leave now because I can't get anyone else to do well?
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It was a little bit a bit like that towards
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the end. But I think if you're having a good time,
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you want to keep doing it and you're committed. Yes,
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you know, only illness would stop people continuing.
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Death would stop people.
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In some cases, That's right. So we had a nice
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time and everybody supported one another, and yeah, it worked well.
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It was I mean, I've not worked for them for
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a very long time, but it's a great theater. Like
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it's fucking cold, but it's great.
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And I like it being cold. It's a nice, beautiful
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size have to do all the running around all the time.
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And I just remember it being so welcoming and beautiful
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and I just I just loved it. It was great.
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I still like coming back. I went to the Short
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Short Film Short Play Festival last weekend and I was like,
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I love being in this theater. I like seeing it.
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Well, we worked really hard over the years to have
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the fires blazy and flowers and cherry and the bar
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and everything, and you know, we had really lovely feedback
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from everybody.
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And I'm assuming they still do all that stuff, right
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they do, Yeah, they still continue that. I think it's
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a part of sort of lubricating your audience. Really, that's
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what you're actually trying to.
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Do is get him drunk before the get them warm.
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You're in Stirling in the winter.
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Many theaters give out.
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Everyone that stands around a fire is going to start talking.
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Yeah, yeah, that's right, Like you don't.
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I think that's a great thing, having the two fires
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and then people talk andy and then like all right
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now already bells ringing, let's go in, let's watch show.
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You're ready for the experience.
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It's about sort of gearing them up. It serves a
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purpose of house music almost. But yeah yeah, yeah, sorry, no, no, no,
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I'm done you sure, okay, just checking.
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Checking Dennison V like they are an inturgial part of
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it as well, you know, and V used to do
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front of house and then there's always you know, he
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was an actor and he used to do. They've always
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overs and yeah.
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It was Dennis Noble.
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Jennis Noble.
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Yeah, because Josh just mentioned the one A Playfestival.
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I have artwork of his in my house. Dennis, he
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did the vacuum Cleaner, he.
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Did do that.
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We got Gleen and I share some of his artworks.
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That's good and I've got them hanging off as a
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work and I've got them in my house.
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Talented man, he is. Yeah, Josh mentioned the one Ache
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Play Festival. Now that we has come back, that is
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been revised, really, hasn't it.
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That was Kevin's inception, wasn't. No.
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That was a guy called Tom Dister who was one
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of the founding members. You know, yeah, the diaster. So
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but things have changed. You know, back in the eighties
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he was a school headmaster and there were lots of rules.
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Were you were in it, Lee, I remember you being
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in it.
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Yes, apparently he won an award he did, and he
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never talks about it.
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No, I've got to go in of it.
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I'm like, you're talking about your talking about mine? You
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bring mine up all time. Yeah.
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Yeah, So how was the difference.
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So take us back to when that first started. What
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was that like because There was also a lot of.
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Much more theater groups back then.
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Yeah yeah, there was. There was Blackwood, there was.
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Oak Bank, Access Theater Company.
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Access, strath Alban.
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Players, there was Door Park for a while. Yeah, next yeah, yeah.
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But it all was going really well, and then people
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started cheating.
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What do you mean.
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They brought in ringers. You know.
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What happened was the rules were, which is what wouldn't
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work today.
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The rules.
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Okay, the rules were you could get if you were hosting,
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then the different companies could come from a lot of
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time and use the stage and it was set like
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you come between nine and eleven stay. So that was
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all working well, but then you didn't get another opportunity
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to cheat see the stage until the actual night of
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your perform So there were three each night, right, So.
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Everyone's working with the same playing for the same plans.
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Forty minutes, no longer ten minutes, set up, ten minutes breakdown,
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something like that.
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And nothing could be left on the stage like that,
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nothing to be left.
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On the stage, not to go over time. You know.
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There were too many rules and regulations really when I
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think about it, so one particular, that's a good.
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Thing if you've got that many companies working together.
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Like it sounds like Eurovision, Yeah, it does. They just
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need Delta moving on again.
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So what happened was one group who now I don't
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think they exist any longer. They said to our stage manager,
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who won't know, we can't get there. We can't get
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there until four and that's the only time we can
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drop everything off. Can we use the stage then or
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access the theater? And he wanted to have dinner, the
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stage manager. He said no, no, you can't do that,
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and I went, oh, please, please, we won't do anything.
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But they had a hospital bed in their production. So
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when we came back from dinner, we could see they'd
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been using the stage cursing because the hospital bed wheels
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were all over the stage.
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Gets he kicked out of Eurovision and it.
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Just ruins the whole thing, you know.
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So what happened? Did they nothing?
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You can't say anything.
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No, So why did it stop?
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Well, it stopped with the energy thing, like that's happening
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with everything.
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You know.
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The group's had trouble putting together a play. Some of
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the players were sh.
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One t and what does that mean?
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Oh okay, so.
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I didn't like to say that.
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Yeah, but some of them he doesn't know swear words.
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No, I didn't think you did. But you know, just
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there was no competition really if someone's putting up rubbish
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just to.
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Actually make it the last like, I didn't didn't feel
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like a competition when I was watching Last Weekend. I
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felt like it was just a genuine.
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Which is probably better.
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Probably better.
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Yeah, we're not judged now, is it.
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No?
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No?
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But also the judges, Oh my god, some of the
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judges were really cruel about some of the amateur theater
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people and they'd write a screen about them and then
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be really the whole thing, you know, because some of
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them were just having a go.
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Yeah, I think there's ways of I think there needs
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to be a screening process. I'll say that much from
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what I saw, yes, yeah, yeah, some were better than others.
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But I liked just watching little short plays and just
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ideas that I haven't thought about, and watching actors that
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I've never seen before. That's also and that was a.
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Good thing because you know, if you couldn't get into
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a main production at Stirling, you could be part of.
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The There were a lot of directors that came and
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watched and there were I.
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Could tell that, that's right, so it was a good
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way to start off. If you didn't feel confident doing
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learning the lines of a full play, you could do
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one act play. And we did some really good ones,
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you know, but that would.
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Be great just not learning lines for a whole time. Yeah.
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Like, I think it's a great concept. Like, I think
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it's such a beautiful way of bringing sec of groups together.
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I think it's they're going to have a debrief about
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it and they all can work it out. I think
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it's it's got legs as an idea. I'm looking forward to.
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We should do one. We should get one actor?
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He went out there? Who wants to cast Josh and
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I and one actor? Completely good people? No, because I
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will look so small compared to you.
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All Right, moving on, So the's Chris. I led you
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into that one. That's my fault.
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So how did you meet Kevin?
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Oh?
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Well, we went to school together. Oh, but we didn't
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know one another. It's high school, primary school.
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Oh my god.
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We went to the same primary school and then we
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went to the same high school. But I met his
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sister when we moved districts, and then she said, oh,
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you'll really like Kevin. He's my big brother. So when
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he got out of the navy, we met.
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Was that love at first sight? Like, I want to
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he was pretty cool. I want to get on that.
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I've seen photos of you and Kevin when you're young.
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Yeah, yeah, it was pretty cool. It's pretty full of he.
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Was a rooster yea, so he still is. He's actually
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is a very attractive man. So the theater love was
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that because it's how future for Kevin.
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He's always loved reading, right, he loves literature and so
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he'd read a lot of plays and he was interested
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in theater. So that's why he just thought, well we
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should do something, Yes, move to the district. What can
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we contribute? And he was working in town and at
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Flinders and he had pretty heavy sort of jobs and
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he wanted a bit of light entertainment.
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Especially with what he was doing then I imagine back
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in the eighties and stuff.
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Yeah, like wow.
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Child adolescent service and things like that. So it's pretty heavy.
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It's a lot to take.
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And you both would nurses too, right, like, yeah you're
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a nurse as well. Yeah, how'd you find that?
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I loved it?
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I reckon you would have been really really good at it.
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Well I tried to be and the minute I put
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that uniform and I thought, this is me really, yeah, yeah,
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I thought this is what I've always because I had
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an elderly aunt who was a matron at the hospital
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in the country, and I always sort of thought I
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looked up to her. And then when I I went
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to work in an office when I left school because
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I wasn't old enough to go nursing and I just thought,
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is this is life? I can't do it like it
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was just boring as yeah, and then you know, I
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went for the interview, got the job, and then I
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just had time in my life. I've loved everything.
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Did you go to nursing school?
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School you have to go to and be locked away and.
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Used to they just have like tapes and stuff.
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You used to lock them. And they had to stay
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at the nursing school and not have boys.
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In the dorm.
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You weren't allowed to do that. And they locked the door.
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And here I am thinking it's supposed to be there
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about annime, twenty years old.
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I was only I started. So we had a big
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old house that we lived in and we had a
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ball yeah open miss because I was in sort of
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suburban Sydney. And then we moved into Red Fern, which is, you.
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Know, okay, pretty different.
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That would have been a different experience.
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Challenging. Yeah, yeah, it was challenging, but rewarding that Yeah,
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I was saying to a friend the other day we
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had lots of Aboriginal babies come in and they were
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just gorgeous being part of that, you know. No, there
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was no judgment. I don't remember any judgment.
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Redfern's practically unrecognizable now, it is.
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That's right, like cosset your fortune to live there, you know.
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But no, it was. It was good and I wouldn't
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want to do any other profession.
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And having doing that, which is such a people focused job,
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and seeing the best and worst, and also doing theater
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right where you're seeing people potentially at their best and worst.
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Which one do you think you've learned more about human
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nature from?
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Probably theater?
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Wow, okay it was a big call. Tell me about that.
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Oh well, you can. You can tell somebody's personality the
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minute you start working with them, you know, when they
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because you're.
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The costumers, so you get to see them when they're
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off stage.
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A size. I don't say that. I don't say that,
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I just say no, no. Dubling you're not sorry, And
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then yeah, I suppose when they say I'm not wearing that.
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That's not my color.
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That was on Mike, so we might have to cut
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that will beat that out, you know, I don't want that's.
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You could have mouthed I can do that.
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Who else, I'll bet it's fine.
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No, no, no, there's nobody else really, but they just
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have they take a while to get used to you
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and trust you. Yes, that's the thing this is, this
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is not going to look any good. Put a code of.
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So we're in that process though, like who do you
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have usually full control over the costumes or collaboration with
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between the director or do you think it's just the direct.
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Actor should have anything to say about costumes. I disagree,
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our union would disagree.
499
00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:31.599
Yeah, no, I'm interested. How does that process?
500
00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:34.440
You know, it's working with the director really what their
501
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:37.440
vision is, and then you hope that you both come
502
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:39.599
to an agreement on this, and usually it does. I
503
00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:43.839
mean Dave's not Dave and Rob. We work really well together.
504
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:47.440
And Nick Fagan, I love working with director. Yep, he's
505
00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:50.079
a director, and we just sit down and go through
506
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:54.079
what their expectation is, what they'd like, yes, and I
507
00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:56.200
go find it as best I can.
508
00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.000
And do you include the actor in that kind of
509
00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:02.799
selection process or would you choice?
510
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:05.039
No? I bring in a few choices, and you know,
511
00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:07.960
I don't say you've got to wear this, say nothing.
512
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:09.599
We usually work together.
513
00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:12.160
Because that's also your creative spark, isn't it. It's like
514
00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:15.880
you've been creative and you're making those character choices.
515
00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:20.480
Well, I feel like that's my creative side, which is
516
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:21.119
what I needed.
517
00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:24.680
You know, that's your influence, that's your that's your art.
518
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:29.440
Yeah. Yeah, it's a good alternative to looking after sick people. Yeah.
519
00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:31.160
It was a good you know.
520
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.359
Make people look great, that's.
521
00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:37.079
Right, and be happy, you know, and the end result
522
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:37.920
I love. Yeah.
523
00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.720
So why do you think some actors are like that?
524
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:43.799
Because they've got no self confidence?
525
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:44.480
Wow?
526
00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:48.279
Okay, and you see that. Yeah, And some people have
527
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:53.240
got the most stunning physique, don't feel confident about it.
528
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:55.319
Well, what do you think they're doing theater then, because
529
00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:57.079
that's a strange thing to do if you're a very
530
00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:58.039
insecure person.
531
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:01.680
I think, well, theater it allows you to be someone else.
532
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.839
So if you don't like yourself, yeah, it's a really
533
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:08.279
good way to be something that you don't have to
534
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:12.119
think about not liking yourself. I've always I mean, I
535
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:15.319
always play myself on stage. But you.
536
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:19.319
Don't know, you don't but you.
537
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:21.000
Know I'm a character actor. You do not.
538
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.119
I think it's an out for some people, but it
539
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:26.279
does take a while for it.
540
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.519
Well, generally people have a lot of and a lot
541
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.160
of trauma around how they've grown up, how they've been
542
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:37.519
talked to, whether it's their parents, whether it's school, about
543
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:41.160
their image. I sometimes also it really has like I've
544
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:44.200
teaching a lot of kids trying to process a lot
545
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:47.839
of stuff that they get told and just going that's
546
00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:48.559
not you man.
547
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:51.440
Do you think sometimes it depends on the part, like
548
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:54.240
some parts, I'm not talking about acting.
549
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:57.960
I'm just saying like people are insecure is because they've
550
00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:00.119
been picked on for ten years.
551
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.880
Look at what's his name, ed Sharon and he was bullied.
552
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:05.880
It's good and all these people like.
553
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:07.720
He got the last laughtern' he yeah.
554
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.480
Point from one point where you can go, you know what,
555
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.200
fuck you guys, here I am. But in order to
556
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:17.519
do that, there's a lot of barriers to get over.
557
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:19.880
Yeahah, that's right. And I think also if they're nervous
558
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:22.519
about learning the lines and they're sure about the part,
559
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.720
then that can then come on to me like this
560
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:28.000
is not this is not right, it's not working.
561
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:31.359
But it's well, you're going to hear everything, and how
562
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:33.200
do you deal with that when you've got someone who's
563
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.119
either struggling with a part or starting with their own
564
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:39.319
self worth or with the lines, and you know that
565
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:42.519
added stress. How does that? Obviously that makes your job
566
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:43.480
a little bit more challenging.
567
00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:45.759
Right, it's like dealing with a sick patient.
568
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:46.559
Yeah.
569
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:47.920
Does that sound rrib.
570
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.359
No, it doesn't. We're all sick.
571
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:54.880
We wouldn't be doing like you have to work with people.
572
00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:58.640
I don't think you can be bossy and and difficult
573
00:27:58.759 --> 00:27:59.599
and get away with it.
574
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:03.000
You're calming and reassuring somebody, is what you're actually doing.
575
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:05.759
That's what I tried to do two seconds from a
576
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:08.880
panic attack every night when we did that show. Yeah,
577
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.119
you got me through that, and I genuinely really appreciated that.
578
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:17.000
Yeah, And I loved working with you, and it's one
579
00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.000
of my favorites. I really loved.
580
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.720
It so on the edge that whole time.
581
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:24.640
Yeah, Well it was huge, wasn't it.
582
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:26.319
You know, I was just going through a lot of
583
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:27.680
stuff and it was just like.
584
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:30.599
Yeah, I think, I mean, look, it was one of
585
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:32.880
the best shows that I think Stirling's ever done.
586
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:33.079
Right.
587
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:37.240
It was fast paced, It had like some really great
588
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.079
talent like Ben Toll and some other people like. It
589
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:42.440
was really well cast, it was really well directed. It
590
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:44.000
was fun and fast paced and.
591
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.519
It was so different. Wasn't it anything they've done? And
592
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:50.599
then people would say, oh, I don't get it. I
593
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:52.079
think we don't have to get it. You just have
594
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:52.839
to enjoy.
595
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:54.720
It so much fun.
596
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:58.480
Yes, So, having done over a hundred like costumes for
597
00:28:58.519 --> 00:28:59.400
over one hundred.
598
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.640
And twenty shows easily, how do you.
599
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.039
Keep motivated and wanting to do it or are you
600
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:09.640
now going, oh god, another show?
601
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:10.440
No?
602
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:16.440
I enjoy the read through. That helps, Yes, And you
603
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.400
know I don't get tired of it. If I don't
604
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:20.839
want to do a show, I don't do it. Good Yep, yeah,
605
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:24.240
I don't do it. I've been asked for different I.
606
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:27.839
Think you have to, particularly because your talents are so
607
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:31.440
needed that you just I know a lot of you know,
608
00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:33.599
we're running out of skilled people, but a lot of
609
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.559
people are overworking themselves, getting asked all the time, and.
610
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.920
There's no good doing anything half asked, No, no, it
611
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:42.480
shows with everything.
612
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:47.000
So yeah, so what if you had your dream show
613
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:51.200
to costume? What would that be? Have you thought about that?
614
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:52.960
It could be anything like.
615
00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.279
No, but I loved Man in Havana. I love that era, so.
616
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:05.039
A Graham Green kind of nineteen thirty edge, ninety fifties spy.
617
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:06.839
I don't really like period stuff.
618
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:09.759
You don't no, oh wow?
619
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.839
I mean I wouldn't want to be making it. And
620
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.240
I can't make the decision about what people would wear,
621
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.519
just crispsuits and yeah, yeah, colors, And I love the
622
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:21.799
way Dave goes, well, this is the palette.
623
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:23.519
So how does Dave seems work?
624
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:26.160
Well, he says, yeah, this is these are the colors.
625
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:29.160
Don't go outside that. You can have a variation of
626
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.720
the tone of those colors. And we sit down and
627
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.440
we have a couple of conversations about what he sees
628
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:39.759
each character in and I take notes and then have
629
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.039
a go go from one another.
630
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.079
And is that Do you enjoy that part? You love
631
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.960
it all the searching and stuff? Yeah? Yeah, I enjoy
632
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:50.880
shall I love it when he goes shopping because I
633
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:51.880
get jackets out of it.
634
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:56.480
No, I love it. In fact, the play that is
635
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:01.160
on now when the rain stops falling. It worked really
636
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:03.920
well because Emily Dalziel, who's just come on to her,
637
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:08.799
which is fantastic, and Janfer who I've also known for
638
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.440
the tuts. We went off op shopping for a day.
639
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.160
How fun it was fantastic. I bet it would have
640
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.559
been to option other people the district.
641
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:25.599
Yeah, Woodside Birdwood was closed. That was a shame, Bealhanna.
642
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.240
But you know, we you know, sort of had the
643
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:31.240
coffees and the lunch in between, and people get things
644
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:35.839
for themselves. And the country areas are so much more reasonable.
645
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.960
Yes, yeah, compared to like Savers, which is.
646
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.279
Just insane, you know, so.
647
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:47.640
Wes Savers is Yeah, it's great, but like the expense
648
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.640
so very compared to going like to a country op shop.
649
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.119
We could find actual nice stuff.
650
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:55.440
Yeah, only for a few dollars.
651
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:57.960
I found a Hugo Boss Jacko for ten bucks at
652
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:00.400
Mount Marco Salvation only once. That was great. Wow.
653
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:05.000
So have you ever come to what's the most difficult
654
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.640
person that you've had to all character that you've had
655
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:12.119
to really come to a character, to the person like
656
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:16.000
costume I had to fit and to create a character
657
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:17.880
out of like what's the most challenging one that you
658
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:19.400
don't have to name names? I mean you can, we
659
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:23.160
can just be a giant squid. But have you had
660
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:27.160
some really challenging characters and people that you've had to dress?
661
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:27.759
No?
662
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:29.559
Do not.
663
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:31.720
Anyway.
664
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:35.799
Well, there is a certain lady who is very concerned
665
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:39.079
about how she looks, and I managed to find address
666
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.799
for her to fit it perfectly, and she was so happy.
667
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:46.359
That would have made you feel good, and she couldn't
668
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:46.920
believe it.
669
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:49.599
She couldn't believe it. And it was five dollars at
670
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:50.720
a shop and.
671
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:57.160
In solves yeahs in mount pucker so many there, you know,
672
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:01.559
which solves a percentage of the confidence problem, doesn't it?
673
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:03.960
It does? Yeah, Like she was just a different person
674
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:05.759
after that. And then I.
675
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:07.799
Guess it doesn't affect us as much because we're I
676
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:12.359
don't know, maybe this is a man speaking. It doesn't
677
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.799
give a ship like I'm like, oh, put this on,
678
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:18.039
let's go. But I guess for women who have grown
679
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.839
up in a society which is picking at them and
680
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.440
picking out how they well, I think that's.
681
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.759
I've had some directors say like it's it's interesting, like
682
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:31.039
they want to look good on stage and look pretty
683
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:35.240
on stageholes about what women look like, so it's not
684
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:38.359
necessarily their part or their role, right, So that's kind
685
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.920
of when you're trying to negotiate, what's the hardest show
686
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:44.359
you've had to do? Angels Angel?
687
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:48.640
I love, I love the end result of that, But
688
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:49.920
it was so hard. It was two.
689
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:52.920
Plays, it was it was seven hours of theater.
690
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:59.200
But that was that was probably the most challenging mm hmm.
691
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:03.279
But the end result was amazing, wasn't it because it.
692
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:05.480
Was eight hours it was the most challenging or.
693
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.960
Is it just because different carriacter You know.
694
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:13.239
You were also dressing people that time.
695
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.119
Yeah. There there was just a whole rack of costume.
696
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:17.960
I remember, it was.
697
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:18.920
It was crazy.
698
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:22.000
It was massive. It was massive. I can't remember how
699
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.960
many costumes, but I would I wouldn't be surprised if
700
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:25.599
it was eighty.
701
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.599
But you were nominated for that show as well, Yeah
702
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.440
I was. How did that make you feel because you
703
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:32.440
did an amazing job.
704
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:38.480
Yeah, it's a good acknowledgment of the work you've done. Yeah. Yeah,
705
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:41.719
but I've been lucky, like when we did Cuckoo's Nest,
706
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:44.559
which is another favorite of mine, with Tracy Walker was
707
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:49.519
the lead yes, and they were all inmates, and I thought, oh,
708
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.039
how am I going to dress everybody? When I went
709
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.960
to Harris Scarf and I found fifteen pairs of matching
710
00:34:56.000 --> 00:35:01.599
pajama pants were two dollars each. This is well back
711
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.519
that was throwing them out and I dressed the whole class.
712
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:06.599
How did he make them for two dollars?
713
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.639
Well, it's called a sweatshop lest yeahs you go to
714
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:12.840
the Philippines, which it was just luck.
715
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:16.400
And then Heavy's wardrobe featured a lot in that too.
716
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:19.159
I was going to ask you about that because of
717
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:24.639
Kevin's clothing I haven't worn personally insane. Has he ever
718
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:27.760
sat there at a show going it is?
719
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:28.239
Oh?
720
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.920
Was that my? So? The other day I was in
721
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:35.719
there and you say you in my wardrobe again? Yes,
722
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.800
just asked me before you come in. So I think
723
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:41.639
he's getting a bit tedgy. But anyway, No, we've used
724
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:44.559
a lot of his because he had a track suit
725
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:48.639
from Wool track suit from nineteen sixty age.
726
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:50.320
He's still got those clothes.
727
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:54.159
Yeah, no lot, but that one, and I think it was.
728
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:58.840
It's like, well my grandfather used to wear well, yeah.
729
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:02.199
The big Heavy, You've still got it. And Tim had
730
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:06.119
House were in the play, you know, so there was
731
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:09.400
a lot of his old stuff in that. But I
732
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:11.599
thought the end result of that was really good.
733
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:13.920
I think it must be.
734
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.760
And when you go and see shows, are you critical
735
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:17.480
of the costuming?
736
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:18.960
Yeah, yeah, I bet you would be.
737
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.639
Yeah, I know, just things and I think, well, that's lazy.
738
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:22.199
You know.
739
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.079
Well the pop Tart said that as well.
740
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:25.840
They were kind of like, you know, they sit there
741
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.079
and watch the props and go why is that?
742
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.599
I guess, you know, I mean, when we're watching people
743
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:34.119
like that, we're just like, mhmm.
744
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:37.079
I think it's I mean, I shouldn't be too critical.
745
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:42.639
No, very hard, it's very hard not to very hard
746
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.000
to switch off. Really when you go and watch the show, do.
747
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:49.079
You find that I think, yeah, look, yeah, I just
748
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:50.880
I want to be watching.
749
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:53.960
I want to.
750
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:57.960
I like it when I go and see shows and
751
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:02.440
everybody's done their job flawless act and it doesn't even
752
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:04.679
have to be good. It just has to be seamless
753
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:08.639
in the cohesiveness of the creativity that's been put into
754
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:11.440
the production that it doesn't take you out of it,
755
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:13.639
so you can just and I think that's the beauty
756
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:16.039
of doing props or costumes or anything else like that.
757
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:18.320
It's actually it's kind of like ambience.
758
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:20.679
To be fair is a very hard thing to do
759
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:25.119
on some of the budgets that are amateur companies have. Yes, yeah, yeah,
760
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:27.360
so when it does happen, you're like, oh my god.
761
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.000
Yeah, yeah, well that's right.
762
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.960
I think it takes a very specific, beautiful person to
763
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:34.800
actually do a job that doesn't get a lot of
764
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.800
praise and goes unnoticed if done well.
765
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:43.639
If somebody says, oh, the costumes worked, well, you know
766
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.079
I do. I do appreciate as.
767
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.199
An actor when someone says the costumes were great and
768
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:57.000
then doesn't say anything else. Well.
769
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:01.079
I've got one of Vicky's reviews here. It was from
770
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:05.760
the A Year review and it was from Angels, and
771
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:11.280
it says costume designer VICKI Burrow clearly spent many hours repairing, designing,
772
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:13.960
and op shopping to bring back the eighties era to
773
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.639
life with multiple scenes and characters. There was plenty of
774
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:19.719
costume changes and it really elevated the production.
775
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.320
Yeah that was lovely. But I have to say, have
776
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:25.559
sleepless nights over do you really? Yeah? Yeah, that's why
777
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:28.880
you know, I wake up at three and think, oh God,
778
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:31.719
I don't know that I'm going to find that it's
779
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:32.719
silly And.
780
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:34.360
It must be hard too that you've kind of put
781
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:36.880
so much thought and then it's literally down to someone
782
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:38.320
going oh no, I don't like it, and you go,
783
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:39.559
oh my god, I've spent like.
784
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:43.360
Yeah, that can be depressing. Yes, that happens. It is
785
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:47.320
a bit sad when that happens. But it hardly ever happens.
786
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:49.440
I guess that's when you cause do you do a
787
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:50.679
lot of research as well?
788
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.519
In the Yeah, I do, but a lot of I'm
789
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:58.079
not old that I remember, you know what I mean,
790
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:05.360
Like I remembers it was in the seventies, unique insight,
791
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:10.719
that's right. So I think Cookosness was Haley's one of
792
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:13.760
Haley's first and she did a great job with that.
793
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:18.119
Is a great director, she's really Yeah, yeah.
794
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:20.239
That was a winning player. Was that was a cracker?
795
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:26.320
One of fluid is? Yeah? Yeah, So you're bringing that,
796
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:29.320
is it like why you don't like period pieces because
797
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:31.239
I don't know. I was not around then.
798
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.440
No, No, it's just yeah, probably, but no, I just
799
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:35.039
I find them a bit fake.
800
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.960
But but the thing with cook well that with a
801
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:41.159
period piece it's not actually real, is it. It's it's
802
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:42.199
an artist.
803
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:46.639
Stuff, you know. Yeah, I like gritty stuff. I like
804
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:50.000
like Tracy, aren't ye get your teeth into it?
805
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:53.280
So what kind of genre of show do you prefer
806
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:56.360
to watch? C do costume fit people?
807
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:57.119
What? What?
808
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:58.000
What do you want to see?
809
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:02.960
Well, Kevin and I went to see The Great Gatsby
810
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.079
our production who did that?
811
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.480
That was an American company festival? Yeah? Is that when
812
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:10.960
they actually read all of the plays. The whole damn
813
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:12.800
thing was the.
814
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.079
Most outstanding thing I've ever seen in my life.
815
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.960
Really, Yeah, Wow, why.
816
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:18.519
Did you love it?
817
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:22.920
It was so well done? And so did you see it?
818
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:23.239
No?
819
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:26.360
No, like if they came back again, we go again.
820
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.159
We're just so silky smooth. I mean they've been doing it.
821
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.480
I saw the eight hour thing and I was like.
822
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:34.159
Yeah, but that didn't matter, you know, Like it was
823
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.599
just we had a drink first, a couple of hours,
824
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:38.440
a bit of a break.
825
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:41.440
Then I've heard, Yeah, I heard amazing thing. I can't
826
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:43.239
remember that what the company's name is though, but.
827
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:44.239
No, I can't remember that.
828
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.159
That's the best piece of theater you've ever seen?
829
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:46.719
It is?
830
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:47.840
Yeah, it would be.
831
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:51.079
I mean we've done stuff, but the best professional I've
832
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:55.480
ever seen. Yeah, So do you.
833
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:57.039
Like literature based stuff?
834
00:40:57.639 --> 00:40:57.840
Yeah?
835
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:01.920
Yeah, you're talking about how even was into literature and
836
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:07.159
with that theme of you know, reading and putting stuff
837
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.079
on that you've kind of read or yes, yeah, does
838
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:11.000
that attract you a bit more?
839
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:11.519
It does?
840
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:12.039
It does?
841
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:13.800
Yeah, it's good.
842
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:21.199
What's the biggest costume drama mistake disaster that's ever happened
843
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:21.639
to you?
844
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.599
Once? Goss? This is Lee's gossip.
845
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:31.760
Now, Oh gosh, you've never had to like, yeah, I've
846
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:32.960
had to stitch up things.
847
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:36.000
Yeah, I'm sure there's been pants that have been split.
848
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:39.360
Yeah, they have been pants split pants. In the last
849
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:43.000
show I helped with Old and Straight, Yes, he split
850
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:43.719
his pants.
851
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:45.239
Apparently. This is gaffer tape.
852
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:45.719
Is the best thing?
853
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:47.519
Just pretty uncomfortable.
854
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:50.639
Yeah, yeah, that's good.
855
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.119
I mean the hardest thing is someone says, and this
856
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:56.039
has happened to me a few times, don't worry, I'll
857
00:41:56.079 --> 00:42:00.519
do that costume. I'm happy doing that. Oh yeah, and
858
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:01.719
they don't turn out with it?
859
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:03.039
What do you mean?
860
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:07.239
Well, they didn't one particular show that we had it.
861
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.960
Stirling and the guys. Oh no, I'm doing that. I'll
862
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:12.920
do that. I'll do that and still wasn't there and.
863
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.760
By the time the show is opening night. Oh that's
864
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:17.519
stressful because even for an actor, you.
865
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:23.400
Want to where it is your jacket. In Megan Show,
866
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:26.360
I remember that m.
867
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:29.159
Is that the one where I was a woman or
868
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:31.599
you were the king. I was the king and then
869
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.159
I became I was the king.
870
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:34.280
Things like that.
871
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:36.719
People don't show I think you were.
872
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:37.400
I think you were.
873
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:41.360
We talk about that a lot, do you Yeah, I
874
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:43.000
should have done. It was amazing.
875
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.440
It was amazing, and that was really really good.
876
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:48.519
I know it was a real.
877
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:51.760
Challenge that show as well. It was stunning.
878
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:52.840
I'd love Yeah.
879
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.360
Yeah, that's probably one of my biggest regrets.
880
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:58.280
And I just don't know why people don't do gritty
881
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:00.400
things so much more than punch things.
882
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:04.519
Yes, I think it's become a bums on seats issue.
883
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.400
I think a little bit probably. I think you can
884
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:11.199
do it doesn't have to be. Some companies are still trying,
885
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:15.840
and you know, Holden Street are now putting on a
886
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.960
bit more experimental stuff with Nick Fagan, who's artists and
887
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:20.760
residents there.
888
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.840
And then the stars come down. That is great. That
889
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:28.039
was yeah, yeah, that was great and.
890
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:32.840
Red finished and I didn't I can't sorry, I can't.
891
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:34.920
I can't watch plays about child abuse.
892
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.639
I know what you mean. But at the outcome, the
893
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.519
result was amazing and Laramie.
894
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:46.039
Project and like Angels in America, like there are still
895
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:49.519
things coming through. But I guess there's still an economic issue,
896
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.480
isn't there, Like we still need to get people coming.
897
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:55.920
Yeah, well we all can't cross Superstar, can we, Like
898
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:57.920
we don't have the resources. We can't do. You know,
899
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.800
you've got to pay for the it's a.
900
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:03.400
Fortune to put that on, Like you're paying for the
901
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:05.519
book and the music like it.
902
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:10.079
And because they get paid rights superstars.
903
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:12.360
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
904
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.679
We just need to just write our own stuff.
905
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:18.440
But that's hard to attract people.
906
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.599
Yeah, and that's why I think, like the Shakespeare's work
907
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:26.000
because people know them, or the Classics work because people
908
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.800
know them. But at the end of the day, I
909
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:32.320
do love seeing pieces of theater and I'm like, where
910
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:33.119
did that come from?
911
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:37.119
Yeah? Yeah, no, it's been a passion and now I'm
912
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:38.199
sort of winding down.
913
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:43.840
No, is that something you want to do? Yeah, you
914
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.599
say that, but you're going to be involved, Like so
915
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:48.280
many shows.
916
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.880
Emily Daziels come on board to help, you know, that's
917
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:55.719
good because it's long days, yes, and long nights and everything.
918
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:56.719
And yeah.
919
00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:59.440
So for all that forty years, did you predominantly just
920
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:00.719
work for Sterling players.
921
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:02.119
Yeah, I did. I didn't work with anyone else.
922
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:04.360
So have you now branched out to work with other groups?
923
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:09.599
Yeah, Red Phoenix on the Street or Blue Sky started before.
924
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:11.920
That, you were the guild for the guild.
925
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:12.199
Yeah.
926
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:14.440
Yeah, yeah, I've done a couple of the game. Yeah,
927
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.360
And you know, sometimes will say I'm having trouble getting this,
928
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:19.239
so I'll help you with a few things.
929
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:21.599
That's what I love about it, Like everyone just loves
930
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:23.159
and helps each other, like it's great.
931
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:24.199
Yeah. Yeah.
932
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:27.480
Before we get onto the po questionnaire, I have to
933
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:31.400
ask you about your own personal style because you have
934
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:35.079
exquisite tastes. Like every time I see you, you've got
935
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:38.599
this beautiful and you're really amazing with like textures and
936
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:41.719
like you just dress so well, what do you look
937
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:44.000
for you in your own costume in life?
938
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:48.679
Well, something different? And I do like texture, yeah, and
939
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:51.320
I know what colors I like. And when I don't like.
940
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:53.199
I mean it's beautiful.
941
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:55.519
You're just always beautifully dressed.
942
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:58.360
It's erit. I liked how you dress sort of almost
943
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:05.880
in Native Australians. Yeah, yeah, well nothing beautiful, So I
944
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:10.800
think about it all right, So we're actually we could
945
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:15.039
talk for hours. But again, this is the pivot. This
946
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:18.480
is just a little questionnaire. Answer it off the top
947
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:21.119
of your head. Works best if you do that. Don't
948
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:28.119
question the questions, please you bright. What is your favorite word?
949
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:29.000
Darling?
950
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:30.239
Darling? Darling?
951
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.360
My I called all the children and I call you darling.
952
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.920
I do that too. I can't. Yeah, I have to
953
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.800
stop myself from saying it to my students sometimes.
954
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.280
Did you did your mum or dad call you darling?
955
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:48.119
Did it come from Yeah, don't talk about him? Okay, no, no,
956
00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:48.719
I'm joking.
957
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:53.360
But it's such a lovely word because there's a musicality
958
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:53.639
to it.
959
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:56.880
It is. No, my grandmother used to call me darling.
960
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.000
It's just a word in the family.
961
00:46:59.199 --> 00:46:59.960
It's beautiful.
962
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.639
And I've had a really fortunate upbringing, really parents and grandparents,
963
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:05.800
and I'm so grateful for that.
964
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:07.440
That's really cool.
965
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:16.679
But you've paid that forward tenfold to your kids, Like, yeah.
966
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:18.079
I think you try. I have to try to be positive.
967
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:25.719
I can be bitch, you know that. No, yes, but
968
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:26.480
I do try.
969
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:26.960
Not what.
970
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:34.480
Is your least favorite word, Colleen Hanson's word. I don't
971
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.519
like mono cultural or monoculture.
972
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:39.079
Monoculture.
973
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:41.960
Yeah, let's getting that's get a bit of air player
974
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:42.760
at the moment, isn't it.
975
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:47.199
Yeah, I have to I has sixty minutes changed.
976
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.800
They call it something else. Well all of that butt.
977
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:53.320
Watch.
978
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:55.119
Last night I was.
979
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:57.719
Up to like one am in the morning watching a
980
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:01.320
documentary on her but like Spotlight ever and it was
981
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:06.719
actually terrifying, like it just there's no substance to that one.
982
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:08.320
But like it's also because it was Highlight.
983
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:10.440
They were talking about stuff in the UK and what's
984
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:12.159
going on there, and she went over to the UK
985
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.880
with those guys and yeah, anyway, so.
986
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:18.400
Hot take a bunch of artists don't like Pauline Hansen.
987
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:21.840
Yeah, And that's the other thing about it. That's the
988
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:26.519
other thing about everybody. We're all nice lefties.
989
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:28.400
Well I think.
990
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:36.519
I'm a bit centrist, but no where mindful of people.
991
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:41.920
Yeah, it's about care and care what that represents as toxicity?
992
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:42.639
Really do you.
993
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:47.320
Think art can help and change that stuff? Do you
994
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think players actually do anything or they just entertainment?
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If it just makes people question there thinking that's good enough.
996
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To my thoughts, yes, or even just show them a
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different way or that's right. I think it's that kind
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of thing.
999
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:02.360
We have to take more people to play. This is
1000
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what we need to do. Yeah, yeah, what turns you on? Creatively,
1001
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spiritually or emotionally?
1002
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I love duets and I love.
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Cello sorry, as in like.
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People singing together like two voices. I just adore that. Yeah,
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00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.119
but that's because when I was growing up, our family,
1006
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my cousins and aunties and had piano and we used
1007
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:30.440
to have parties where we would all sing around the piano.
1008
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And do you have a favorite duet that you hear
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or listen to often? Yeah?
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Oh my beloved, your father, my beloved, isn't it? Gi?
1011
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What's your favorite cello?
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00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:49.960
Anything? Jacqueline do pray?
1013
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What turns you off? Yeah?
1014
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Rude men?
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Rude men, that's specif.
1016
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No, But you know I hate I hate aggressive.
1017
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Yeah. You would have dealt with doctors in your time,
1018
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:16.800
arrogant some of them, So it's not a stereotype.
1019
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.360
They are actually can be like that, some can.
1020
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Some of them are beautiful. It depends on what field
1021
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:26.880
they go in, you know, Like pediatricians are usually love
1022
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children and continue to love children.
1023
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Yes, did you have a specific field that you kind
1024
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:34.440
of found yourself working in when you're nursing.
1025
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Well, I worked with neonatal children like up to six months.
1026
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Quite stressful, little poor little baby.
1027
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:45.719
So I finished off my career because that's the good
1028
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:48.039
thing with nursing. You can have different areas that you
1029
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:51.320
go into. So I finished off with elderly people visiting
1030
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him in their homes and forming a social life for them.
1031
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:57.960
He used to come to the hospital for lunch and
1032
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:02.639
then you know, prevent them from having to go to hospital.
1033
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:08.800
If I could really proactive, that's.
1034
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.199
What we need right now. There used to be in
1035
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hospital every few weeks because they're alone.
1036
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:12.119
We're getting really political.
1037
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:14.760
I can imagine you, like, you know, kind of going
1038
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:17.400
to the homes and go, hey, you know what, this Saturday,
1039
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:19.039
we need someone to hold the sherry.
1040
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:24.039
Help. It can be like that, like the rs ls
1041
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:29.480
used to be good places, but they're they're struggling. What
1042
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:33.800
is your favorite curse word? Ship?
1043
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:34.840
Yeah?
1044
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:39.440
Ships? Not? I know when you swear like Sutton's gone wrong?
1045
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:42.440
Yeah?
1046
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:47.400
Yeah? What sound or noise do you love?
1047
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:48.639
Ah?
1048
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:53.760
I love babies laughing, especially your grandkids.
1049
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:54.039
Right.
1050
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:59.519
Yeah, you have such a beautiful, close family like Youah.
1051
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:03.280
We just adore the kids and we've got eleven really grandchildren.
1052
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:06.880
Yeah, fertile children you have.
1053
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:08.880
Wow, Yeah, it's.
1054
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:11.800
An interesting way to put that. Know, well, how many
1055
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:16.360
kids do you have? What sound of noise do you hate? Sound?
1056
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:17.440
A nooyse do you hate?
1057
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:20.639
I hate yours? Screaking.
1058
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:23.960
I've been dealing with that all week.
1059
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:27.760
What you do?
1060
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.599
No at school? There's a door band, isn't it?
1061
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:31.239
Yeah?
1062
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:31.599
It is it?
1063
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:45.320
Add Okay, that's definitely it's not going to fix the Let's.
1064
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.960
Get those guys in, they'll fix the doors. You have
1065
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:50.239
been having too much red wine? I have been Actually,
1066
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.599
what profession other than your own? I mean, I know
1067
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:57.000
you've retired from nursing, but other than that, would you
1068
00:52:57.159 --> 00:52:59.880
like to attempt like what other well as?
1069
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:02.239
Did think? If I didn't get into nursing, and if
1070
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.519
it was available at that time, I would have done
1071
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:06.199
something in theater creating.
1072
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:09.679
Do you think it.
1073
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:12.400
Would have been costumes? Or do you would do something else?
1074
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:16.079
Possibly design? Cool?
1075
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:18.400
What profession would you not like to do?
1076
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:19.119
Teaching?
1077
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:21.800
She said?
1078
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:25.840
I don't know how much patience I'd have to be honest.
1079
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:33.199
Yeah, I gotta put up with a bit you've got
1080
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:34.280
eleven grandkids.
1081
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:36.239
I know, I know, but you know, I think it's
1082
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.079
like management, right, Like you're having to manage like again,
1083
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:42.159
it's making.
1084
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:44.400
Sure that your lessons aren't boring as bad ship, so
1085
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:45.639
they're not going to stuff.
1086
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:48.760
Around and you're doing a great even then it's.
1087
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:49.599
Still going to stuff around.
1088
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.800
Yeah, yeah, but you know, a teaching is really an
1089
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:55.039
important job and I don't think that I could step
1090
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:55.440
up to that.
1091
00:53:56.639 --> 00:53:59.239
I think you do actually do it. I think I
1092
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:02.000
think you do do a beautiful thing. But then so
1093
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:09.519
did you like, yeah, we need like nurses. Look, no,
1094
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I don't have nurses.
1095
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Anyone that don't want to want my ass I choose you,
1096
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Thank you.
1097
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:15.760
I'll do it anytime.
1098
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:21.639
Thanks, And we'll record that later and put it on
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the website. Christ, if heaven exists, what would you like
1100
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:33.079
to hear God say when you arrive at the pearly gates?
1101
00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:35.679
If if heaven exists.
1102
00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:43.559
Are no sort of lean towards Buddhism, would probably say,
1103
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:46.400
I think you've had a reasonable life.
1104
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:48.599
A reasonable life.
1105
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:51.960
You've done well, You've contributed.
1106
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:55.360
I mean, I think you're You're eleven grandkids are a
1107
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:57.719
testament of that, right, How beautiful.
1108
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:00.880
You've done and the big one and the big one,
1109
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:06.000
the big one, Vicky, Vicky, Yes, why do you do.
1110
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:11.079
This because of the people with me. I enjoy the
1111
00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:13.679
company and I love giving.
1112
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:15.639
Yes, and you give.
1113
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:19.400
Gives so much like what you've contributed over since nineteen
1114
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eighty from your foy is jump into seiling players to
1115
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now he is sitting with us. Thank you so much
1116
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:26.599
for giving for all those many years, because.
1117
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:28.320
It's Vicky for everything, really.
1118
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:31.119
And thank you both for being such gentlemen when you're
1119
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:31.719
working with me.
1120
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:34.840
Oh, you're more than welcome. That's so easy. Yeah, you're
1121
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:35.559
more than welcome.
1122
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:36.400
Thank you.
1123
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:40.360
Thank you Vicky for coming in. Thank you to Stepney
1124
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:43.280
Studios once again, our salubrious confines.
1125
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:45.199
And Cooper does such a great job. Thank you for
1126
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:49.920
thanks Cooper. Actually yeah setting all this up. Our producer
1127
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:54.280
in absentia is yeah, we can't do this. Trust us,
1128
00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:56.840
trust us with the whole bloody building.
1129
00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:57.679
That's good.
1130
00:55:58.320 --> 00:55:59.360
So thanks Cooper for that.
1131
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:03.159
Thank you Lee, Thank you, Josh, and I will see
1132
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:05.000
you in the next will.
1133
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:08.519
Return, We will return. We have another guest who I'm
1134
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:12.639
very excited to talk about. Clearly, all right, thank you
1135
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:16.599
all for listening. Thank you Checkers. To whatever you're doing.
1136
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:21.719
Bye Checkers, good luck, thanks last wordly what I'm trying to.
1137
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Bye?
1138
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Is it off now?