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What does the person who has sat across from some of the best recruiters in the business actually see when he looks at them?
In his first podcast appearance ever, Kevin Parker joins Benjamin Mena for a conversation that goes where recruiting content almost never goes. Kevin is a licensed clinical social worker and licensed clinical addiction specialist with 20 years in the psychotherapy world, and he has spent years in what he calls sacred spaces with high performers, usually as the one asking the questions. This time, he answers them.
Kevin opens with what he sees in those rooms: incredible, entrepreneurial people whose minds run ten steps ahead of everyone else, and who often have nowhere to take the wins, the losses, or the weight of it all. Leadership can be a lonely place, and the antidote, he argues, starts with saying it out loud. Name it to tame it. He shares his three rules for who deserves to hear your story, why the recruiters who can look back on lost deals with gratitude are the ones who grow, and why the difference between a human doing and a human being changes everything.
From there the conversation moves through the four buckets of life, biological, psychological, social, and spiritual, and why the trouble starts when you look into your social bucket and only see work. Kevin explains why he abandoned the phrase work-life balance entirely in favor of tension, a rope that has to be pulled in different directions as life demands it. Drawing on Bob Buford's book Halftime, he lays out the difference between success, which is measurable and honestly not that hard, and significance, which is humble, relational, and much harder to build. He takes on imposter syndrome through the lens of Internal Family Systems and makes the case that there are no bad parts, only parts that need to be thanked and told to take a seat. He speaks directly to working moms carrying full-time careers, full-time motherhood, and breadwinning all at once, and challenges the women who shattered the glass ceiling to mentor the ones coming up behind them.
And to the recruiter listening who feels alone right now, Kevin closes with the answer he has spent 20 years arriving at, and a challenge for everyone who is not lonely: pick up the phone.
By the end, one question is left deliberately unanswered. That one is for part 2.
Remember that you are significant.
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