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Welcome to the Hot Switch with your host Ali Mang, bringing you the best from leaders, comebackers, and instigators from around the world.
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Every episode, we put each other on the hot seat to exchange the kind of hard-won wisdom and transformative ideas that will shift your perspective and fuel your next move.
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This is the Hot Switch.
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Hello, hello.
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Welcome to the Hot Switch.
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My name is My name is Allie Mang.
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And you can already hear our guest Simon Levin.
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And I can't wait to bring you on.
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Come on on, Simon, and we'll do a little bit of a where we first met, and then we must do my candle tradition.
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Welcome to the Hot Switch, my friend.
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Welcome.
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Oh, goodness me.
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What a pleasure, Allie.
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So appreciate having a conversation in this way.
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And can I just say something when before we start?
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I I just want to congratulate you and just am so blown away by the fact that you will you're stepping out on the skinny branches, sister.
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You're like, you know, putting yourself out there, that just takes something.
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It really does.
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And the fact that you are inviting me to come here and have a conversation on your show is a big honor.
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Thank you so much, really.
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Thank you.
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And you, Simon, you are so right.
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This is this is what it is.
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And I think that you and I have worked together on so many different occasions.
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And I know right now we're working again together, which I am loving and so appreciate the opportunity.
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But you know, if we if we have the courage to walk out, as you said, and we're gonna talk about that because that is absolutely part of um the essence of who you are walking out on those tiny branches, but having the courage, and I'm gonna tell you something.
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Today I was nervous about the show.
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We had two shows back to back, and I just thought, oh my God, I'm like we all go through that.
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And the idea then is just to get centered and realize that wonderful things are taking place right now, and we're right in the middle of it.
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And with that in mind, that is my segue.
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I start every show lighting a candle.
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At some point, we're gonna have a sponsor that brings us fabulous candles, don't you think, Victor?
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This represents the power that wonderful things, good things are happening right now, even if maybe it doesn't seem that way, or you're not seeing things move as quickly.
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Patience and remember, we're gonna keep this candle on the whole time as a representative of that great, honest truth.
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So, Simon, do you remember the first time we met?
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We were working together trying to bring um a polar tech, a beautiful fleece, making a fleece sheet set for TSE.
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Do you remember that?
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Yeah, sure do.
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Sure do.
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It was uh uh meeting a superstar for the first time.
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Wow.
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Wow, you're you're forward today.
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Good God.
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Yeah, I remember it was amazing.
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You know, what was so good about it is there are times where you just connect with people and you know that those people are going to be around in your life sometime just because of how the conversation went.
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It was like we'd known each other forever, even though we've met for the first time.
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Yeah, and I remember one of the things, because you were um meeting with our buying team as well, and um and I was so excited, just the name of Polar Tech was just like, oh my gosh.
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And um, anyway, as it turned out, it didn't work that time, which happens, right?
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This is the reality.
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But as you just said, what we did is there's a relationship, there's a trust.
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And one of the things that stuck out to me even back then was your vast knowledge of industry, of processes, um, and and just this coupled with almost an engineer's like uh process, coupled with this tremendous amount of um just global knowledge of what's happening in the world, and then the empathy for the human being.
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I mean, that is U to a T.
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And may I just share a few things?
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You're welcome.
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May I shoot?
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I'm gonna share a couple of things um about your bio because I always, you know, we always work hard on the bio, right?
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What is how can I represent myself?
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So here are just a few points because there are both two sides.
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Uh so we'll we'll talk about the the brand strategist and the salesman on the first side.
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You strive to transform how people are operating in their own work environments.
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You're a brand developer and a safety leader.
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I love that.
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Leveraging two and a half decades of expertise to deliver comfortable and cutting-edge solutions, revolutionizing workforce attire and enhancing productivity.
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My primary objective is to ensure the well-being of personnel in demanding environments by implementing new garment technology, effective protocols, and cultivating a safety culture that promotes both productivity and protection.
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Now, that's one side.
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We're gonna talk about the other side of your profession, but wow, that's so cool.
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That's exactly what I was talking about.
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That was the Simon I met.
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Wow, yeah, thank you.
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You know, it's uh there's so much about that.
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That's also not so much about who I am anymore.
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You know, I'm beginning to learn that that's just a lot about what I do.
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You know, things are evolving, things are changing.
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I couldn't agree more, and I think that that's one of the things, you know.
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Remember, I'm gonna say 15 years ago.
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Um, it seems like yesterday, but it probably was, where the resume had only a few things.
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And when you sat in front, for me it was the acting business, which was different.
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The more credits we had, the better.
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Um, directors were able to look at the other directors that you worked for, the other films that you did.
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So for us as entrepreneurs and performers, having a big long resume of all the stuff was a help.
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But 15 years ago, it was people started judging you quickly.
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What do you mean you've worked for seven different companies?
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Do you have ADHD or you can you not keep a job down?
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But I remember years ago, my dad said the thing is that's going to happen in the future is um we won't have jobs.
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We will be doing jobs.
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And every moment will earn its next moment.
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And so, like I always talk about, you know, the the secret behind the game face is the totality of everything that brought you right here today.
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And and what you've said is exactly true.
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Well, I have to go back to 2020 when I created a book with over 80 people in four different countries finding the light.
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I'll just show you the clip and then I'm gonna highlight Simon, who participated in that book.
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We came together to share and to document the thoughts of over 70 people throughout North America and Australia.
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We all need to be heard, and our stories need to be shared.
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We did this through a series of Zoom interviews that became the basis of this collection of essays.
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This rich resource shares stories, poetry, and breathtaking photos of the world in lockdown.
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The thread of love and humanity binds this book to give us all the strength and the comfort we need in order to rise today and every day.
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Nice.
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Thank you, Victor.
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So brilliant.
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So brilliant.
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Allie, you know, the fact that in the time that it took you to really, you know, that's just sometimes it's almost leaves one speechless.
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The amount that it takes to enroll people and the people you know and the people you reach out to, to put a project like that together and make it happen in the short space of time that you had, and uh, and and to do it where the world was really in turmoil, really in turmoil.
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And you found that little nugget of goodness from everyone was was really spectacular.
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It's quite an honor to be part of that conversation.
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Well, I thank you, and it was an honor to have you as it is here today.
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Here was Simon's and his power.
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I asked everyone to give me, whoops, their power word.
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I'm still trying to figure out how to do this.
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There we go.
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Yeah, there you go.
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At least you're recreating yourself again.
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There, exactly.
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And I and I gotta tell you, so my message to all of us is let's not be bogged down with all the negativity, all the change that we're confronting.
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Yes, change exposes us our weaknesses and challenges us out of our comfort zones.
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Don't let that stop you from seeing new possibilities to help you stay in the game.
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Let's get out there on those skinny branches and use this time to reinvent ourselves.
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Let's recreate.
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That's you, Simon.
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Amazing! So tell me, what does recreate mean?
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I mean, I know you are going through your own recreation right now, and we're gonna talk about you moving into being a coach.
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And you know, everyone says coach, but we're gonna talk about that.
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But you know, when have you decided, when did you decide or what are the signs for you that it's time for me to just start recreating and adding to the bigger list?
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Yeah, you know, I do well.
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It's a good question.
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When I when I think about it and I look at it, um the first thing that comes up for me is you know, it's very much it's very much about your values and where you want to go in the world and what the future looks like for you.
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And I think uh, you know, I spent a lot of my life just going with the flow and existing and enjoying uh, you know, whatever just comes at me.
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But as I got older and as I evolved and as I went through, you know, like we all do, we go through these things in our lives where we have experiences that uh number one embrace us and then number two take us down.
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And I'm I think every time there was something that I was creating and then I faltered, you know, those were the times that they were my biggest learnings.
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And in those biggest learnings, it was time to recreate myself, you know, creating a business that was 17 years old and um losing it, you know, employing that amount of people and um having something that had me go and be in an environment every day, all of a sudden just disappeared.
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The world changed, my life changed, and when your life changes, you're left with, well, so what's next?
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And then you have choice, you know, you can either go uh you know, curl up in a ball, suck your thumb and go mama, or you you stand up, you know, you take a good look, you you recreate yourself and you move on.
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And I I I've done that multiple times in my life and had some seriously big losses, not just in business, but personally too, with you know, friends and family who leave this earth, and you know, there's things that really take you out.
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But uh your current circumstances or my I I've always been a believer that your uh your circumstances and what's really happening now is so temporary, nothing is really forever.
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So it's up for me to change it.
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And I think that's where it is.
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I don't know if that answers the question, but that's what it is for me.
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You know, it's perfect, and what keeps on coming back to me is legacy.
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You know, what is our life for?
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And I always think of Mark Twain's quote the two most important days of your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why.
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And um I just love that quote, and I think that's what you're saying, you know, and sometimes, well, always it's okay to go and curl up and say, Mama, as you said, that is okay too, because it's part of the recovery part of the pattern change or the shock that happens.
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So, you know, it's an all-or-welcome, wherever you are moment and environment that I think gives us the courage to deal with the fears and and such, so we can kind of, you know, poke our head out and come out.
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And you know, I love when we work together on something, the vulnerability um that that you show I guess we all show when we're ready to make a change.
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I think there's a really important point of of that pivot that we have to just say, okay, you know what?
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I have no idea what I'm doing.
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I am going and I'm gonna run.
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I'm gonna run there as fast as I can.
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Or take big steps.
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I don't even think you have to know what you're doing, Ellie.
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I think what's more important is about you just need to have some direction about where you want to go.
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And then not be, you know, just don't be so concerned about how it's working out.
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And if you're not, if you're not just really creating a uh a habit for yourself where you're just taking small steps on a daily basis, you know, I I think one of the things that I learned is like, why haven't I gotten to where I want to get to right away?
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And how come it's not happening for me?
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You know, then when I just sort of would calm down and take a look, and then so you know, so often I would look at uh, okay, well, why don't you take a look about, let's just look two months back.
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Where were you and what's happening now?
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And you, wow, when you really take a good look, you can see that there's those minute, small incremental changes that have been going on.
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And I think we spend so much time.
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Well, I do.
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I used to spend so much time going, well, when is it?
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When is it?
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Why isn't it?
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Why isn't it?
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And now I spend a whole lot more time going, oh wow, thankful for that.
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Look how that happened.
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Wow, I had no idea that person would show up in my world.
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And the only way things will show up in my world is because I'm actually moving somewhere.
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I'm on the direction somewhere.
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So having purpose, yeah, it's a that's a big thing for me, really is.
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So I don't have to know where to go.
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Really don't.
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I just trust, trust, also learned that.
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Big, big, big, big, big conversation from you right now.
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Oh, I so agree with you.
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And you know, um, when we we uh like good friends, like good colleagues, the trust, of course, is there, but we sort of come in and out of each other's lives.
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And just recently, um, I hadn't spoken to Simon in quite some time, and um, he sent me a note, and all he said was, Hey, I'm noticing you're changing things up, your branding and your this and you're that.
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I know how much work that takes.
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Good on you.
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Let's chat soon.
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And that was, I think, on LinkedIn.
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And um, it was just, it was just exactly the thing I needed to hear.
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And of course, we got back working together again and and and exploring and learning so much about just, you know, where we are in life.
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It's great.
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Now, listen, we're gonna have to take a quick break.
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We're gonna come back, but before we do, how can people find you, Simon?
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Because uh your business that you're doing now and the other business that you founded, which we'll talk about on the other side of this, how can they find you?
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Well, that's an interesting question, just because I'm in this really amazing, interesting place of complete revamp.
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But you know, LinkedIn is where it's all going to begin because I'm going to concentrate and have everything come out from there because the website is being redesigned and the coaching environments being designed, and um I'm just going in a completely different direction because I actually, to be honest, have not been on social media very much.
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I try as much as I can to stay off it because I was on it and I got sucked in on it.
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And I'm finding that if I take myself away from it a little bit, I actually get a little bit more done.
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But I'm also clear that this is the world that we live in right now.
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And when you want to evolve and create and get connected, uh, there's something about social media that you really have to get connected with.
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So I'm revamping it so that when I do have additional places you can find me.
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Um, the structure really is there for what I said I want to create for myself.
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So it's coming, it's coming.
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But LinkedIn page, Simon Levin.
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And also one of the companies that I work with with my partner is called Dahoko.
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So www.dehoco.com.
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And you can look at what we do and the things we do in that company too.
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Wonderful.
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We'll be right back with Simon Levin.
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Allie Mang here.
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Of all the people that could have been chosen, designer Anna Lucia Beltram asked me to host her live worldwide launch last year of her newest product.
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The world's first non-toxic luxury jewelry cleaner, safe for gold, silver, diamonds, and even pearls.
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Anna Lucia is the founder of the world's first designer lab grown diamond brand.
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Her entire brand is sustainable luxury, ethically made at prices that make sense.
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Her pieces have been featured in Queen Elizabeth's Platinum Jubilee album.
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I'm proud to call her my friend, and even more proud to stand behind what she is building for today's women.
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For 15 years, I sold products all over the world on live shopping.
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Hundreds have approached me to talk up their products.
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I've said yes to a handful.
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Anna Lucia Diamonds and her entire company is one of them.
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It's time to switch it up.
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Something from the desk of.
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Yay! Something from the desk of.
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It's my favorite.
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It's my favorite part of the show.
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I mean, you just never smile, you're just never excited about anything, are you?
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Oh gosh.
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Well, listen, if you're not having fun, then nobody else is gonna be having fun.
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That's for done sure.
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And you can't fake that stuff, right?
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I mean, I guess people do, but I turn off very quickly.
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So listen, something from the desk of share, what's going on on your inspiring you?
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Something on the desk of.
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Well, you know, you want me to show you something that I have?
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I mean, I have three of them here, but I always have.
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Uh, you know, this uh it's all about family.
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Now, how do I how do I move this?
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You're doing well, come back.
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This is a delay, I guess, right?
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There's a it's just a one-second delay.
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There you go.
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You got it.
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Yeah, this is such a, you know, my son Mason and my lovely wife, Vicky, and they're always on my desk as a as a reminder, you know, that without family, uh, you know, there's a lot that would be missing in my life if I didn't have those two incredible people and look at what they do and who they are.
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And so many people say to me, What an incredible young man I have as a son.
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And, you know, not touting my own home, but you know what's so great about it when they tell me that?
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And he is a beautiful human being, and I do love him.
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And of course I love my wife too, but you know, when I when I look at Mason, my son, and I see who he is in the world, and so many people come up to me and tell me just what an incredible human being he is.
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And you know what's so amazing is that he doesn't do anything incredible, that there's all these things that he's done.
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It's just so much more about who he's being.
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And then I look at his mom and I and I go, wow, you know, it's not that we turned him out that way because there's so much about on the walk of life that he gets impacted by that we have no idea about.
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But we created the foundation, and that gives me a lot of joy that we had no idea, but we turned it out.
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But it's such a parallel to life to not knowing and then turning stuff out.
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So, yeah, they're always a reminder on my desk.
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That's just that's perfect.
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I love that.
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Um, you know, it's interesting.
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You you you talk about being a parent and raising and you know, you know, saying that you're totally revamping things.
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And it seems to me that that's part of, you know, the fact that, you know, there's a segue to you becoming a leadership coach, a life coach.
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It's just, it's like, seems like you've been preparing for that your entire life, it seems.
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And um, so this is your other hat that you're talking about.
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And I want to talk about it because I'm so proud of you.
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I think it's absolutely correct.
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And as you well know, um, you've been my coach.
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And I just want to send it right back to you.
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And I want to just say, holy moly, you've been such a lighthouse to me.
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And I know that's part of your branding.
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Uh, but when we started.
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Was probably in your mind, but you weren't necessarily putting it out there.
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But having somebody to just sit and listen and then come in at an appropriate part of that dia tribe, whatever emotion we've got going that day, there's nothing like it.
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And um, I've grown up with coaches as a competitive athlete and you know, with directors and and producers my whole life.
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So it you always need somebody, you need an outside eye.
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Because you can't do it all yourself, particularly if you're a creative person, but that's true for anybody.
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But let me share a little bit about your bio as a coach.
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I'm gonna have to put my specs back on.
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Oh, I just found out I'm getting new glasses.
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I'm very excited about that.
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Okay.
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Simon.
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Yeah.
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The outcome is not a life without storms.
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The outcome is becoming the kind of person who can stand steady, see clearly, and navigate powerfully through them.
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And I love this part about your development of coach.
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You know, my clients might be asking, is this still the life I want?
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What matters most to me now?
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How do I lead with more authenticity?
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How do I make better decisions under pressure?
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How do I stop reacting to life and start choosing my direction?
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And how do I become more fulfilled, not just more successful?
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Love it.
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I love it.
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Anything to say to that before we move on?
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Ah, right.
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Sorry.
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I I I thought there was going to be a question.
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Um, there's oh, there's gonna be a question.
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There's gonna be a question.
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Oh my goodness.
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Um yeah, yeah.
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You know, there's so there's so much to say, but just like you, you know, you're out there.
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I've always wanted to be um an orator, somebody who can share.
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Um, and I've always sat around and I've always thought, well, you know, I don't really who's who's gonna listen to me?
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What what are we really I have to say is as anybody else that's out there when you look at what people are exposed to in the world and the amazing and crazy things that people are doing in the world today, we're just a speck of dust and this massive uh uh beak sand.
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But I I thought that that because I I'd been through these roller coasters of building a business from nothing, coming from not even knowing how to make a garment, actually being restaurant chained trained, and then having three factories and building for Lululemon and Octaryx and Mountain Cook and Co-op and all of these big brands, and then losing the company and recreating it, and losing that company again and recreating it, and all the way along the way, learning what it was like to fight and what it was like to trust, and what it was like to recreate, and what it was like to believe, and what it was like to mind your language, and all this stuff.
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And then I was like, these are the lessons of life, and it's not like I want to share this and stand on a stage and go, look at Simon, he knows so much, but it was really more about some of the experiences that we all have, we should share.
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There's so much that we all have about our lives and what we've been through.
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We don't have to be famous and profiled and out there in the world, but everyone goes through the world and fights and climbs.
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And we should all have the opportunity to be able to stand on a soapbox and share that.
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Now, it's changed for me because I couldn't figure out how do I get to be that person who stands on the stage.
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And I thought, you know, the thing that impacts me more than anything else right now is or that resonates is really how do I make a difference?
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What does that look like?
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Because I I looked at my company and I saw how my choices were based on how much money I was making.
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And then when I looked at those choices and how those choices had no integrity because they were all governed by how much, things failed.
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And everything that I've moved on and recreated for myself in my life has always been about how do I make a difference.
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You know, the money comes after that.
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You don't have to worry about it.
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You know, yes, money's important, we've got to survive.
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But, you know, the things that I want to create and the things I want to do and the people that I want to impact come from a foundation of making a difference.
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And so in the world of coach, there's so little empathy in the world.
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You know, our vibration is moving so fast that everybody's running and nobody's listening.
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And just really, you know, yes, there's a major design, and there's so many people out there about coaching and want to make a difference, and having an advice hat on and saying you should do this and look at how I don't want to do that anymore.
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I actually just want to sit and I just want to be that person who can hear what you're saying and just have you hear yourself said back to you.
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And the difference that that makes is huge.
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Wow.
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See, ladies and gentlemen, this is the coach that I get to work with, and that is amazing.
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Thank you so much for that.
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And you know, it's interesting.
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There there is such an arc when we really kind of come, we sort of go, oh my God, I don't know what I am doing.
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I thought I did, and I love doing this, and I love it, but I don't have a clue.
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And I know I need to, and you know, the way I came to you, um, I I had, you know, my outer shell was all very well manicured and poised and all that stuff.
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But soon, with the sense of comfort, um, you know, it turned and there I was in tears and and letting go.
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And so when you work with a coach that you really trust, that you understand they've been there, um, they understand that the road let it's not easy and all of those things, you know.
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I I really believe in finding the right coach for yourself.
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I have had many in my life in the sense of in the same realm as you, Simon, um, where you're dishing out lots of money and you're just not getting, it's not about the money, but it is when you don't feel you're getting the return.
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And that is the real difference.
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When you feel that you're growing and you feel like you've got more courage and you wake up a little bit more as opposed to or um, you know that you it's about combinations of people.
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I always talk about, you know, with companies, it's the pep.
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And Victor, you're gonna laugh because you're you're you're all about acremons, I know.
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But people and the right people combinations create an environment that's winning, that's inspiring, that's flowy, that allows everybody to be seen.
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And from that people environment, it creates performance, whatever that performance is, sales, uh, more marketing, better, more sticky, all that stuff.
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But you need to have the right combination of those factors.
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And Simon, you have brought so much joy and just, you know, challenge.
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Uh uh, you scare me half to death lots of times when you bring it in, but it all comes from love.
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And it also, I have to step up to the plate.
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You know, that's part of it.
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We're gonna change directions now, if that's okay.
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Let's go.
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Allie's performance tip of the day.
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We're gonna do one-minute tips, and my countdown is already on.
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Simon, you're gonna go next.
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Okay.
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So, this is what I want to talk about.
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Yeah.
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The long-term process of achieving success, whatever success means to you.
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Now, this was my first book, How to Sell Out in Less Than Seven Minutes.
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And you'll notice the date there.
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I can't see it, but I think it was 2013, January 27th.
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A year later, I actually brought my book sold out to the market 2014.
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And let me tell you, the title changed, the content changed, a lot of the stuff changed.
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It took a year to edit.
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So, my point here is whatever you are planning to do, hoping to do, you want your first book or whatever it is.
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No, start now.
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Just start with baby steps because it is going to take some time.
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Why?
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Because it matters, and you want to get your best out first.
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So there's my one-minute tip.
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Simon, you are up.
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Go.
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Yeah, I would say a really important conversation for me is mind your language.
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You know, people don't understand that if you think about where everything in the world is created, it all starts from thought.
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So, you know, we have the power to say what goes on up in here.
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And every day, you know, to really be mindful about, you know, how you say your life's going to go, how you deal with people, how you look at things and interpret things, how you share things, how you think to yourself, the words that you use, they all have huge meaning.
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So be aware and honor that.
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But also, if you had a choice and if you could create your own language, why wouldn't you create anything as opposed to the negative?
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Just live in the world of positive.
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Seven seven yeah, seven seconds to spare.
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That was pretty darn great.
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All right, like the hot switch, we're gonna switch it up again.
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I came across an Instagram um clip.
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Uh, Jacob Collier is a young man that uh I I saw actually live.
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He was part of the Quincy Jones 90th birthday at the Hollywood Bowl a couple of years ago.
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And Jacob Collier is an incredible man, and uh he's a young guy, and he's doing incredible things.
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Let's look at this and then we can talk a little bit about how it affects you.
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Every collaboration is like it's like a bridge.
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You're building a bridge between two worlds, my world and your world.
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You have to meet in the middle somewhere.
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My job as a producer and songwriter collaborator is to make someone feel comfortable.
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That's what I feel is my primary position.
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I'm only as powerful as I make them feel.
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I'm only as as as capable of creating magic as they feel capable of creating magic.
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I'm firmly of the belief that being overly sort of disciplinarian and and kind of yeah, almost like authoritarian.
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It just doesn't work in, especially in creative environments, doesn't work in most environments, let's be honest.
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But but I think when your job is to extract something of value and meaning from a person's inner world, you've got to make them feel safe, gotta make them feel comfortable.
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Know when to when to challenge, when to say, no, I think it should be like this, when to say, have you considered doing it differently like this and whatever?
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And and none of those skills are musical skills, they're all human skills.
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Like you can train as long as you want in any conservatory and be the best musician in the world, but if you don't have those human skills of listening, adapting, patience, uh humor, it's so important.
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Like, you're just not gonna get the results that I believe are possible out of a person.
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Wow.
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Thoughts.
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I mean he just described coach, really.
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You know, to find someone that you trust takes some time, and trust gets developed.
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And I said it earlier, you know, we talk about empathy.
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So much about our life is about being able to listen and leave people with the experience if they've been heard.
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And I think a lot of what he said was, you know, everything that he has, yeah, he's a he's a really talented young man, that man.
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And I think what he's saying is, although he has all of his talent and musically, you know, it doesn't go anywhere unless you surround yourself with people that actually felt heard and want to be in your space.
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And people don't want to be in a space where it's all about you, they want to be in a space where they've been heard.
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100%.
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And what I find fascinating, and this is why I talk so frequently about um, you know, I'm a performance strategist.
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I mean, come up with all these words, whatever you want to do.
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But in anything, because the essence of being your best, striving to be your best, even if today might not be the best that you want to be a week from now, these are the building blocks.
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So show up, do your thing.
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Um, but it's the totality of everything and your dreams, your hopes, and also how you talk to yourself.
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I mean, my gosh.
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Anyway, it's not a lecture, but I just love it because you just said, well, he's a coach, he does what I do.
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Yeah, but he's a musician.
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We're doing the same thing.
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Yeah, so is an athlete, so is a founder, so is the person who got their first job and is marketing and is learning.
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They're bringing their best forward.
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And, you know, we all have lots of uh room to grow, no matter what age we are.
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All right, Simon, we are at the last part.
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Have you had some fun?
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I'm loving this.
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Did you say last part?
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So the last part's at least an hour, right?
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An hour condensed in five questions.
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Yeah.
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Ready?
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Number one.
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Yeah, yes.
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You spoke of words earlier, so what word have you retired from your vocabulary?
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Vocabulary.
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Oh, well, it's two words.
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I can't.
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Why doesn't exist?
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Well, I mean, everything's about possibility, right?
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Without possibility, there's no creating.
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Without creating, you die.
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Like, so come on, people.
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Yes, you can.
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My whole my whole philosophy, right, is having people believe that anything and everything is possible.
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And it might sound ridiculous and it might sound, oh come on, you can't just it's really not about that has to be that big or that small or whatever.
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It's just, you know what?
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If I go into something, let's go into it with possibility as opposed to I can't.
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Number two, the bravest thing you ever did that no one clapped for.
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Yeah, that's a good one.
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I would say, you know, the thing, huh, interesting what comes up.
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You know, my dad got into uh got into uh a business deal that went really sour and got very it just got very, very ugly, and I ended up in a courtroom in a judge's chambers with my dad, and he was really he was really giving my dad the gears, and I just stood up and said, This is not acceptable.
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And anyway, I was 16 years old and I nearly got myself thrown in prison.
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But coming to the defense of my dad, yes, a a kid shouldn't have to do that when he's young, but there was no way I was gonna let that happen.
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Wow.
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Thank you for sharing that.
00:37:55.519 --> 00:38:02.480
And speaking of your dad, something your dad taught you that you could not have learned any other way.
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Yeah, you always said you have two ears and one mouth for a reason, so that you can listen to twice the amount than you could speak.
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Interesting that I'm uh in the world of coaching now, huh?
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Thanks, Dad.
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I think it's serpendipitous.
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Number four, the reinvention you are most proud of, and the one you're still a little scared to try.
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You know, putting myself back in school and going through and getting myself certified as a business coach through ICF at the tender age of 62 was something to, you know, that was a hurdle to get over, to be able to look at can I learn, can I absorb?
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So my brain still have the mechanism to remember.
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And uh yeah.
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Yeah, so and what was the second part of the question?
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Oh, I can't remember.
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Wait, um uh uh uh uh no, I think you're answering it.
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I think you're good.
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Okay, all right, okay, okay.
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There's a there's a complete illustration of that 62-year-old brain.
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What?
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What show shows how much I'm listening.
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Good lord.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Now, I was gonna ask you about your son, but you actually shared earlier the the essence of of that.
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So I'm gonna switch it around.
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And uh, do you have one question for me?
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Yeah, I would say when you're you know, you're putting yourself out there right now with the hot switch with Ali Mang.
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And when you wake up in the morning and you take a look at where you are and what you've done and what you've produced, do you ever take a look and and go, wow?
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Good question.
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And I will tell you that not always, except when I am literally at the precipice of showtime, where um I know that for years, years, no matter what I was performing, was singing, shopping channel, you know, performing as a matter of whatever, there would be this moment where everything was blank in my head and I had nothing.
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And I was like panicking.
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But I realized the quiet before performance was exactly where I needed to be, because I've got a very dizzy, noisy head.
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And that's when that, hey, look at what you've done.
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Now let's just show up for these people and let the rest of it just whatever comes out, comes out.
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It's all about motive, it's all about, as you said earlier, purpose.
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So, yes, I do.
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Should I do that more often?
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I think we all should.
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Um, but you know, we're wired differently.
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And um, I I am I'm like a fast twitch person.
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I'm not, you know, even though I've done marathons, no business doing marathons, but I've done them.
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Um I'm a jumper, I'm a figure skater, I'm a fast twitch.
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I was a 50-meter competitive swimmer.
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So I'm that person, and I need some ignition.
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And that's what happens to me at the precipice of a showtime.
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Good question.
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Simon, we are done.
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Ah, that was so much fun.
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Thank you again for giving me the honor.
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I feel so privileged.
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And again, just to say, just well done, you know, like wow, it's really amazing to put yourself out there.
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I am so afraid to do what you're doing.
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It's just yeah, unbelievable.
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Well, listen, um, I do give I I it's important for me to make sure that people know, you know, you can't, no matter where you are in life, you gotta know that the people you were standing on the shoulders of helped you get here.
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And it's important to me to always acknowledge you.
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Look at me, so I'm I'm a little shaky.
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But Simon, you specifically have helped me move forward with all the fears and all of this and all of that, to just break through it.
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And I still bring all that with me, but it's about purpose.
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And it isn't about, well, how many dollars?
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Blah blah blah blah.
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All of that, like you just said.
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I mean, what you shared with us is so important and it transcends to everybody, somebody just getting out of high school, just getting out of college, or you know, the the ones who are a little longer in experience.
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We all deserve that chance to just do what we want to do and and drive our passions forward.
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So I thank you immensely.
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Thank you for being such an honored guest.
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I always have to thank Victor, our producer.
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You always make me look so good.
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And at least, you know, I know you do your best, and I do the best I can.
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Now, as I close the show, you know I always do.
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I will, this candle has been on the whole time, representing that wonderful things are taking place right now for all of us.
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I thank you for taking the time with us.
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I know time is so valuable to all of us.
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And for now, thank you, Simon.
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Shoza.
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Hi, Allie Mang here.
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I gained 35 pounds a few years ago and I couldn't get rid of it.
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I did the usual, including intermittent fasting, a trainer, and even cut down to 1400 calories a day.
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Nothing seemed to budge until a friend told me to try make wellness.
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It's bioactive plant-based precision peptides that signal to your body at the silly little level.
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Well, the first product I tried was lame, and that was the turn.
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The best thing is I'm keeping it up with no crazy.
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For 15 years, I sold products all over the world on my life should be 100 products products.
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I said yes to it.
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Time to switch it up.
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Welcome to the Hot Switch with your host Ali Mang, bringing you the best from leaders, comebackers, and instigators from around the world.
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Every episode, we put each other on the hot seat to exchange the kind of hard-won wisdom and transformative ideas that will shift your perspective and fuel your next move.
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This is the Hot Switch.
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Hello, hello.
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Welcome to the Hot Switch.
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My name is My name is Allie Mang.
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And you can already hear our guest Simon Levin.
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And I can't wait to bring you on.
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Come on on, Simon, and we'll do a little bit of a where we first met, and then we must do my candle tradition.
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Welcome to the Hot Switch, my friend.
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Welcome.
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Oh, goodness me.
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What a pleasure, Allie.
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So appreciate having a conversation in this way.
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And can I just say something when before we start?
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I I just want to congratulate you and just am so blown away by the fact that you will you're stepping out on the skinny branches, sister.
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You're like, you know, putting yourself out there, that just takes something.
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It really does.
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And the fact that you are inviting me to come here and have a conversation on your show is a big honor.
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Thank you so much, really.
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Thank you.
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And you, Simon, you are so right.
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This is this is what it is.
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And I think that you and I have worked together on so many different occasions.
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And I know right now we're working again together, which I am loving and so appreciate the opportunity.
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But you know, if we if we have the courage to walk out, as you said, and we're gonna talk about that because that is absolutely part of um the essence of who you are walking out on those tiny branches, but having the courage, and I'm gonna tell you something.
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Today I was nervous about the show.
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We had two shows back to back, and I just thought, oh my God, I'm like we all go through that.
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And the idea then is just to get centered and realize that wonderful things are taking place right now, and we're right in the middle of it.
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And with that in mind, that is my segue.
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I start every show lighting a candle.
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At some point, we're gonna have a sponsor that brings us fabulous candles, don't you think, Victor?
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This represents the power that wonderful things, good things are happening right now, even if maybe it doesn't seem that way, or you're not seeing things move as quickly.
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Patience and remember, we're gonna keep this candle on the whole time as a representative of that great, honest truth.
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So, Simon, do you remember the first time we met?
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We were working together trying to bring um a polar tech, a beautiful fleece, making a fleece sheet set for TSE.
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Do you remember that?
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Yeah, sure do.
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Sure do.
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It was uh uh meeting a superstar for the first time.
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Wow.
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Wow, you're you're forward today.
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Good God.
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Yeah, I remember it was amazing.
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You know, what was so good about it is there are times where you just connect with people and you know that those people are going to be around in your life sometime just because of how the conversation went.
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It was like we'd known each other forever, even though we've met for the first time.
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Yeah, and I remember one of the things, because you were um meeting with our buying team as well, and um and I was so excited, just the name of Polar Tech was just like, oh my gosh.
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And um, anyway, as it turned out, it didn't work that time, which happens, right?
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This is the reality.
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But as you just said, what we did is there's a relationship, there's a trust.
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And one of the things that stuck out to me even back then was your vast knowledge of industry, of processes, um, and and just this coupled with almost an engineer's like uh process, coupled with this tremendous amount of um just global knowledge of what's happening in the world, and then the empathy for the human being.
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I mean, that is U to a T.
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And may I just share a few things?
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You're welcome.
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May I shoot?
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I'm gonna share a couple of things um about your bio because I always, you know, we always work hard on the bio, right?
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What is how can I represent myself?
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So here are just a few points because there are both two sides.
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Uh so we'll we'll talk about the the brand strategist and the salesman on the first side.
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You strive to transform how people are operating in their own work environments.
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You're a brand developer and a safety leader.
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I love that.
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Leveraging two and a half decades of expertise to deliver comfortable and cutting-edge solutions, revolutionizing workforce attire and enhancing productivity.
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My primary objective is to ensure the well-being of personnel in demanding environments by implementing new garment technology, effective protocols, and cultivating a safety culture that promotes both productivity and protection.
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Now, that's one side.
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We're gonna talk about the other side of your profession, but wow, that's so cool.
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That's exactly what I was talking about.
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That was the Simon I met.
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Wow, yeah, thank you.
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You know, it's uh there's so much about that.
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That's also not so much about who I am anymore.
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You know, I'm beginning to learn that that's just a lot about what I do.
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You know, things are evolving, things are changing.
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I couldn't agree more, and I think that that's one of the things, you know.
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Remember, I'm gonna say 15 years ago.
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Um, it seems like yesterday, but it probably was, where the resume had only a few things.
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And when you sat in front, for me it was the acting business, which was different.
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The more credits we had, the better.
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Um, directors were able to look at the other directors that you worked for, the other films that you did.
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So for us as entrepreneurs and performers, having a big long resume of all the stuff was a help.
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But 15 years ago, it was people started judging you quickly.
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What do you mean you've worked for seven different companies?
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Do you have ADHD or you can you not keep a job down?
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But I remember years ago, my dad said the thing is that's going to happen in the future is um we won't have jobs.
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We will be doing jobs.
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And every moment will earn its next moment.
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And so, like I always talk about, you know, the the secret behind the game face is the totality of everything that brought you right here today.
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And and what you've said is exactly true.
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Well, I have to go back to 2020 when I created a book with over 80 people in four different countries finding the light.
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I'll just show you the clip and then I'm gonna highlight Simon, who participated in that book.
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We came together to share and to document the thoughts of over 70 people throughout North America and Australia.
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We all need to be heard, and our stories need to be shared.
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We did this through a series of Zoom interviews that became the basis of this collection of essays.
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This rich resource shares stories, poetry, and breathtaking photos of the world in lockdown.
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The thread of love and humanity binds this book to give us all the strength and the comfort we need in order to rise today and every day.
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Nice.
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Thank you, Victor.
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So brilliant.
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So brilliant.
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Allie, you know, the fact that in the time that it took you to really, you know, that's just sometimes it's almost leaves one speechless.
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The amount that it takes to enroll people and the people you know and the people you reach out to, to put a project like that together and make it happen in the short space of time that you had, and uh, and and to do it where the world was really in turmoil, really in turmoil.
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And you found that little nugget of goodness from everyone was was really spectacular.
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It's quite an honor to be part of that conversation.
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Well, I thank you, and it was an honor to have you as it is here today.
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Here was Simon's and his power.
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I asked everyone to give me, whoops, their power word.
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I'm still trying to figure out how to do this.
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There we go.
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Yeah, there you go.
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At least you're recreating yourself again.
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There, exactly.
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And I and I gotta tell you, so my message to all of us is let's not be bogged down with all the negativity, all the change that we're confronting.
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Yes, change exposes us our weaknesses and challenges us out of our comfort zones.
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Don't let that stop you from seeing new possibilities to help you stay in the game.
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Let's get out there on those skinny branches and use this time to reinvent ourselves.
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Let's recreate.
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That's you, Simon.
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Amazing! So tell me, what does recreate mean?
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I mean, I know you are going through your own recreation right now, and we're gonna talk about you moving into being a coach.
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And you know, everyone says coach, but we're gonna talk about that.
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But you know, when have you decided, when did you decide or what are the signs for you that it's time for me to just start recreating and adding to the bigger list?
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Yeah, you know, I do well.
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It's a good question.
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When I when I think about it and I look at it, um the first thing that comes up for me is you know, it's very much it's very much about your values and where you want to go in the world and what the future looks like for you.
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And I think uh, you know, I spent a lot of my life just going with the flow and existing and enjoying uh, you know, whatever just comes at me.
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But as I got older and as I evolved and as I went through, you know, like we all do, we go through these things in our lives where we have experiences that uh number one embrace us and then number two take us down.
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And I'm I think every time there was something that I was creating and then I faltered, you know, those were the times that they were my biggest learnings.
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And in those biggest learnings, it was time to recreate myself, you know, creating a business that was 17 years old and um losing it, you know, employing that amount of people and um having something that had me go and be in an environment every day, all of a sudden just disappeared.
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The world changed, my life changed, and when your life changes, you're left with, well, so what's next?
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And then you have choice, you know, you can either go uh you know, curl up in a ball, suck your thumb and go mama, or you you stand up, you know, you take a good look, you you recreate yourself and you move on.
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And I I I've done that multiple times in my life and had some seriously big losses, not just in business, but personally too, with you know, friends and family who leave this earth, and you know, there's things that really take you out.
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But uh your current circumstances or my I I've always been a believer that your uh your circumstances and what's really happening now is so temporary, nothing is really forever.
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So it's up for me to change it.
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And I think that's where it is.
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I don't know if that answers the question, but that's what it is for me.
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You know, it's perfect, and what keeps on coming back to me is legacy.
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You know, what is our life for?
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And I always think of Mark Twain's quote the two most important days of your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why.
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And um I just love that quote, and I think that's what you're saying, you know, and sometimes, well, always it's okay to go and curl up and say, Mama, as you said, that is okay too, because it's part of the recovery part of the pattern change or the shock that happens.
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So, you know, it's an all-or-welcome, wherever you are moment and environment that I think gives us the courage to deal with the fears and and such, so we can kind of, you know, poke our head out and come out.
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And you know, I love when we work together on something, the vulnerability um that that you show I guess we all show when we're ready to make a change.
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I think there's a really important point of of that pivot that we have to just say, okay, you know what?
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I have no idea what I'm doing.
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I am going and I'm gonna run.
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I'm gonna run there as fast as I can.
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Or take big steps.
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I don't even think you have to know what you're doing, Ellie.
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I think what's more important is about you just need to have some direction about where you want to go.
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And then not be, you know, just don't be so concerned about how it's working out.
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And if you're not, if you're not just really creating a uh a habit for yourself where you're just taking small steps on a daily basis, you know, I I think one of the things that I learned is like, why haven't I gotten to where I want to get to right away?
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And how come it's not happening for me?
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You know, then when I just sort of would calm down and take a look, and then so you know, so often I would look at uh, okay, well, why don't you take a look about, let's just look two months back.
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Where were you and what's happening now?
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And you, wow, when you really take a good look, you can see that there's those minute, small incremental changes that have been going on.
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And I think we spend so much time.
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Well, I do.
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I used to spend so much time going, well, when is it?
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When is it?
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Why isn't it?
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Why isn't it?
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And now I spend a whole lot more time going, oh wow, thankful for that.
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Look how that happened.
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Wow, I had no idea that person would show up in my world.
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And the only way things will show up in my world is because I'm actually moving somewhere.
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I'm on the direction somewhere.
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So having purpose, yeah, it's a that's a big thing for me, really is.
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So I don't have to know where to go.
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Really don't.
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I just trust, trust, also learned that.
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Big, big, big, big, big conversation from you right now.
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Oh, I so agree with you.
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And you know, um, when we we uh like good friends, like good colleagues, the trust, of course, is there, but we sort of come in and out of each other's lives.
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And just recently, um, I hadn't spoken to Simon in quite some time, and um, he sent me a note, and all he said was, Hey, I'm noticing you're changing things up, your branding and your this and you're that.
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I know how much work that takes.
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Good on you.
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Let's chat soon.
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And that was, I think, on LinkedIn.
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And um, it was just, it was just exactly the thing I needed to hear.
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And of course, we got back working together again and and and exploring and learning so much about just, you know, where we are in life.
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It's great.
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Now, listen, we're gonna have to take a quick break.
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We're gonna come back, but before we do, how can people find you, Simon?
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Because uh your business that you're doing now and the other business that you founded, which we'll talk about on the other side of this, how can they find you?
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Well, that's an interesting question, just because I'm in this really amazing, interesting place of complete revamp.
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But you know, LinkedIn is where it's all going to begin because I'm going to concentrate and have everything come out from there because the website is being redesigned and the coaching environments being designed, and um I'm just going in a completely different direction because I actually, to be honest, have not been on social media very much.
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I try as much as I can to stay off it because I was on it and I got sucked in on it.
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And I'm finding that if I take myself away from it a little bit, I actually get a little bit more done.
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But I'm also clear that this is the world that we live in right now.
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And when you want to evolve and create and get connected, uh, there's something about social media that you really have to get connected with.
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So I'm revamping it so that when I do have additional places you can find me.
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Um, the structure really is there for what I said I want to create for myself.
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So it's coming, it's coming.
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But LinkedIn page, Simon Levin.
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And also one of the companies that I work with with my partner is called Dahoko.
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So www.dehoco.com.
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And you can look at what we do and the things we do in that company too.
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Wonderful.
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We'll be right back with Simon Levin.
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Allie Mang here.
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Of all the people that could have been chosen, designer Anna Lucia Beltram asked me to host her live worldwide launch last year of her newest product.
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The world's first non-toxic luxury jewelry cleaner, safe for gold, silver, diamonds, and even pearls.
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Anna Lucia is the founder of the world's first designer lab grown diamond brand.
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Her entire brand is sustainable luxury, ethically made at prices that make sense.
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Her pieces have been featured in Queen Elizabeth's Platinum Jubilee album.
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I'm proud to call her my friend, and even more proud to stand behind what she is building for today's women.
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For 15 years, I sold products all over the world on live shopping.
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Hundreds have approached me to talk up their products.
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I've said yes to a handful.
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Anna Lucia Diamonds and her entire company is one of them.
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It's time to switch it up.
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Something from the desk of.
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Yay! Something from the desk of.
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It's my favorite.
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It's my favorite part of the show.
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I mean, you just never smile, you're just never excited about anything, are you?
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Oh gosh.
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Well, listen, if you're not having fun, then nobody else is gonna be having fun.
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That's for done sure.
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And you can't fake that stuff, right?
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I mean, I guess people do, but I turn off very quickly.
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So listen, something from the desk of share, what's going on on your inspiring you?
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Something on the desk of.
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Well, you know, you want me to show you something that I have?
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I mean, I have three of them here, but I always have.
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Uh, you know, this uh it's all about family.
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Now, how do I how do I move this?
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You're doing well, come back.
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This is a delay, I guess, right?
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There's a it's just a one-second delay.
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There you go.
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You got it.
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Yeah, this is such a, you know, my son Mason and my lovely wife, Vicky, and they're always on my desk as a as a reminder, you know, that without family, uh, you know, there's a lot that would be missing in my life if I didn't have those two incredible people and look at what they do and who they are.
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And so many people say to me, What an incredible young man I have as a son.
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And, you know, not touting my own home, but you know what's so great about it when they tell me that?
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And he is a beautiful human being, and I do love him.
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And of course I love my wife too, but you know, when I when I look at Mason, my son, and I see who he is in the world, and so many people come up to me and tell me just what an incredible human being he is.
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And you know what's so amazing is that he doesn't do anything incredible, that there's all these things that he's done.
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It's just so much more about who he's being.
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And then I look at his mom and I and I go, wow, you know, it's not that we turned him out that way because there's so much about on the walk of life that he gets impacted by that we have no idea about.
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But we created the foundation, and that gives me a lot of joy that we had no idea, but we turned it out.
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But it's such a parallel to life to not knowing and then turning stuff out.
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So, yeah, they're always a reminder on my desk.
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That's just that's perfect.
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I love that.
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Um, you know, it's interesting.
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You you you talk about being a parent and raising and you know, you know, saying that you're totally revamping things.
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And it seems to me that that's part of, you know, the fact that, you know, there's a segue to you becoming a leadership coach, a life coach.
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It's just, it's like, seems like you've been preparing for that your entire life, it seems.
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And um, so this is your other hat that you're talking about.
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And I want to talk about it because I'm so proud of you.
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I think it's absolutely correct.
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And as you well know, um, you've been my coach.
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And I just want to send it right back to you.
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And I want to just say, holy moly, you've been such a lighthouse to me.
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And I know that's part of your branding.
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Uh, but when we started.
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Was probably in your mind, but you weren't necessarily putting it out there.
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But having somebody to just sit and listen and then come in at an appropriate part of that dia tribe, whatever emotion we've got going that day, there's nothing like it.
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And um, I've grown up with coaches as a competitive athlete and you know, with directors and and producers my whole life.
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So it you always need somebody, you need an outside eye.
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Because you can't do it all yourself, particularly if you're a creative person, but that's true for anybody.
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But let me share a little bit about your bio as a coach.
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I'm gonna have to put my specs back on.
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Oh, I just found out I'm getting new glasses.
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I'm very excited about that.
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Okay.
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Simon.
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Yeah.
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The outcome is not a life without storms.
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The outcome is becoming the kind of person who can stand steady, see clearly, and navigate powerfully through them.
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And I love this part about your development of coach.
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You know, my clients might be asking, is this still the life I want?
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What matters most to me now?
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How do I lead with more authenticity?
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How do I make better decisions under pressure?
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How do I stop reacting to life and start choosing my direction?
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And how do I become more fulfilled, not just more successful?
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Love it.
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I love it.
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Anything to say to that before we move on?
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Ah, right.
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Sorry.
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I I I thought there was going to be a question.
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Um, there's oh, there's gonna be a question.
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There's gonna be a question.
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Oh my goodness.
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Um yeah, yeah.
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You know, there's so there's so much to say, but just like you, you know, you're out there.
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I've always wanted to be um an orator, somebody who can share.
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Um, and I've always sat around and I've always thought, well, you know, I don't really who's who's gonna listen to me?
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What what are we really I have to say is as anybody else that's out there when you look at what people are exposed to in the world and the amazing and crazy things that people are doing in the world today, we're just a speck of dust and this massive uh uh beak sand.
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But I I thought that that because I I'd been through these roller coasters of building a business from nothing, coming from not even knowing how to make a garment, actually being restaurant chained trained, and then having three factories and building for Lululemon and Octaryx and Mountain Cook and Co-op and all of these big brands, and then losing the company and recreating it, and losing that company again and recreating it, and all the way along the way, learning what it was like to fight and what it was like to trust, and what it was like to recreate, and what it was like to believe, and what it was like to mind your language, and all this stuff.
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And then I was like, these are the lessons of life, and it's not like I want to share this and stand on a stage and go, look at Simon, he knows so much, but it was really more about some of the experiences that we all have, we should share.
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There's so much that we all have about our lives and what we've been through.
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We don't have to be famous and profiled and out there in the world, but everyone goes through the world and fights and climbs.
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And we should all have the opportunity to be able to stand on a soapbox and share that.
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Now, it's changed for me because I couldn't figure out how do I get to be that person who stands on the stage.
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And I thought, you know, the thing that impacts me more than anything else right now is or that resonates is really how do I make a difference?
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What does that look like?
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Because I I looked at my company and I saw how my choices were based on how much money I was making.
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And then when I looked at those choices and how those choices had no integrity because they were all governed by how much, things failed.
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And everything that I've moved on and recreated for myself in my life has always been about how do I make a difference.
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You know, the money comes after that.
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You don't have to worry about it.
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You know, yes, money's important, we've got to survive.
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But, you know, the things that I want to create and the things I want to do and the people that I want to impact come from a foundation of making a difference.
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And so in the world of coach, there's so little empathy in the world.
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You know, our vibration is moving so fast that everybody's running and nobody's listening.
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And just really, you know, yes, there's a major design, and there's so many people out there about coaching and want to make a difference, and having an advice hat on and saying you should do this and look at how I don't want to do that anymore.
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I actually just want to sit and I just want to be that person who can hear what you're saying and just have you hear yourself said back to you.
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And the difference that that makes is huge.
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Wow.
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See, ladies and gentlemen, this is the coach that I get to work with, and that is amazing.
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Thank you so much for that.
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And you know, it's interesting.
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There there is such an arc when we really kind of come, we sort of go, oh my God, I don't know what I am doing.
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I thought I did, and I love doing this, and I love it, but I don't have a clue.
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And I know I need to, and you know, the way I came to you, um, I I had, you know, my outer shell was all very well manicured and poised and all that stuff.
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But soon, with the sense of comfort, um, you know, it turned and there I was in tears and and letting go.
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And so when you work with a coach that you really trust, that you understand they've been there, um, they understand that the road let it's not easy and all of those things, you know.
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I I really believe in finding the right coach for yourself.
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I have had many in my life in the sense of in the same realm as you, Simon, um, where you're dishing out lots of money and you're just not getting, it's not about the money, but it is when you don't feel you're getting the return.
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And that is the real difference.
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When you feel that you're growing and you feel like you've got more courage and you wake up a little bit more as opposed to or um, you know that you it's about combinations of people.
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I always talk about, you know, with companies, it's the pep.
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And Victor, you're gonna laugh because you're you're you're all about acremons, I know.
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But people and the right people combinations create an environment that's winning, that's inspiring, that's flowy, that allows everybody to be seen.
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And from that people environment, it creates performance, whatever that performance is, sales, uh, more marketing, better, more sticky, all that stuff.
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But you need to have the right combination of those factors.
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And Simon, you have brought so much joy and just, you know, challenge.
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Uh uh, you scare me half to death lots of times when you bring it in, but it all comes from love.
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And it also, I have to step up to the plate.
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You know, that's part of it.
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We're gonna change directions now, if that's okay.
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Let's go.
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Allie's performance tip of the day.
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We're gonna do one-minute tips, and my countdown is already on.
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Simon, you're gonna go next.
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Okay.
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So, this is what I want to talk about.
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Yeah.
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The long-term process of achieving success, whatever success means to you.
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Now, this was my first book, How to Sell Out in Less Than Seven Minutes.
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And you'll notice the date there.
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I can't see it, but I think it was 2013, January 27th.
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A year later, I actually brought my book sold out to the market 2014.
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And let me tell you, the title changed, the content changed, a lot of the stuff changed.
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It took a year to edit.
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So, my point here is whatever you are planning to do, hoping to do, you want your first book or whatever it is.
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No, start now.
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Just start with baby steps because it is going to take some time.
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Why?
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Because it matters, and you want to get your best out first.
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So there's my one-minute tip.
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Simon, you are up.
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Go.
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Yeah, I would say a really important conversation for me is mind your language.
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You know, people don't understand that if you think about where everything in the world is created, it all starts from thought.
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So, you know, we have the power to say what goes on up in here.
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And every day, you know, to really be mindful about, you know, how you say your life's going to go, how you deal with people, how you look at things and interpret things, how you share things, how you think to yourself, the words that you use, they all have huge meaning.
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So be aware and honor that.
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But also, if you had a choice and if you could create your own language, why wouldn't you create anything as opposed to the negative?
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Just live in the world of positive.
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Seven seven yeah, seven seconds to spare.
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That was pretty darn great.
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All right, like the hot switch, we're gonna switch it up again.
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I came across an Instagram um clip.
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Uh, Jacob Collier is a young man that uh I I saw actually live.
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He was part of the Quincy Jones 90th birthday at the Hollywood Bowl a couple of years ago.
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:25.839
And Jacob Collier is an incredible man, and uh he's a young guy, and he's doing incredible things.
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Let's look at this and then we can talk a little bit about how it affects you.
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Every collaboration is like it's like a bridge.
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You're building a bridge between two worlds, my world and your world.
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You have to meet in the middle somewhere.
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My job as a producer and songwriter collaborator is to make someone feel comfortable.
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That's what I feel is my primary position.
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I'm only as powerful as I make them feel.
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I'm only as as as capable of creating magic as they feel capable of creating magic.
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I'm firmly of the belief that being overly sort of disciplinarian and and kind of yeah, almost like authoritarian.
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It just doesn't work in, especially in creative environments, doesn't work in most environments, let's be honest.
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But but I think when your job is to extract something of value and meaning from a person's inner world, you've got to make them feel safe, gotta make them feel comfortable.
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Know when to when to challenge, when to say, no, I think it should be like this, when to say, have you considered doing it differently like this and whatever?
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And and none of those skills are musical skills, they're all human skills.
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Like you can train as long as you want in any conservatory and be the best musician in the world, but if you don't have those human skills of listening, adapting, patience, uh humor, it's so important.
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Like, you're just not gonna get the results that I believe are possible out of a person.
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:44.319
Wow.
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Thoughts.
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I mean he just described coach, really.
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You know, to find someone that you trust takes some time, and trust gets developed.
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And I said it earlier, you know, we talk about empathy.
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So much about our life is about being able to listen and leave people with the experience if they've been heard.
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And I think a lot of what he said was, you know, everything that he has, yeah, he's a he's a really talented young man, that man.
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And I think what he's saying is, although he has all of his talent and musically, you know, it doesn't go anywhere unless you surround yourself with people that actually felt heard and want to be in your space.
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And people don't want to be in a space where it's all about you, they want to be in a space where they've been heard.
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100%.
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And what I find fascinating, and this is why I talk so frequently about um, you know, I'm a performance strategist.
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I mean, come up with all these words, whatever you want to do.
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But in anything, because the essence of being your best, striving to be your best, even if today might not be the best that you want to be a week from now, these are the building blocks.
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So show up, do your thing.
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Um, but it's the totality of everything and your dreams, your hopes, and also how you talk to yourself.
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I mean, my gosh.
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Anyway, it's not a lecture, but I just love it because you just said, well, he's a coach, he does what I do.
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Yeah, but he's a musician.
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We're doing the same thing.
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Yeah, so is an athlete, so is a founder, so is the person who got their first job and is marketing and is learning.
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They're bringing their best forward.
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And, you know, we all have lots of uh room to grow, no matter what age we are.
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All right, Simon, we are at the last part.
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Have you had some fun?
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I'm loving this.
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Did you say last part?
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So the last part's at least an hour, right?
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An hour condensed in five questions.
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Yeah.
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Ready?
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Number one.
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Yeah, yes.
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You spoke of words earlier, so what word have you retired from your vocabulary?
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Vocabulary.
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Oh, well, it's two words.
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I can't.
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Why doesn't exist?
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Well, I mean, everything's about possibility, right?
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Without possibility, there's no creating.
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Without creating, you die.
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Like, so come on, people.
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Yes, you can.
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My whole my whole philosophy, right, is having people believe that anything and everything is possible.
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And it might sound ridiculous and it might sound, oh come on, you can't just it's really not about that has to be that big or that small or whatever.
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It's just, you know what?
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If I go into something, let's go into it with possibility as opposed to I can't.
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Number two, the bravest thing you ever did that no one clapped for.
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Yeah, that's a good one.
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I would say, you know, the thing, huh, interesting what comes up.
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You know, my dad got into uh got into uh a business deal that went really sour and got very it just got very, very ugly, and I ended up in a courtroom in a judge's chambers with my dad, and he was really he was really giving my dad the gears, and I just stood up and said, This is not acceptable.
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And anyway, I was 16 years old and I nearly got myself thrown in prison.
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But coming to the defense of my dad, yes, a a kid shouldn't have to do that when he's young, but there was no way I was gonna let that happen.
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Wow.
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Thank you for sharing that.
00:37:55.519 --> 00:38:02.480
And speaking of your dad, something your dad taught you that you could not have learned any other way.
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Yeah, you always said you have two ears and one mouth for a reason, so that you can listen to twice the amount than you could speak.
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Interesting that I'm uh in the world of coaching now, huh?
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Thanks, Dad.
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I think it's serpendipitous.
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Number four, the reinvention you are most proud of, and the one you're still a little scared to try.
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You know, putting myself back in school and going through and getting myself certified as a business coach through ICF at the tender age of 62 was something to, you know, that was a hurdle to get over, to be able to look at can I learn, can I absorb?
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So my brain still have the mechanism to remember.
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And uh yeah.
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Yeah, so and what was the second part of the question?
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Oh, I can't remember.
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Wait, um uh uh uh uh no, I think you're answering it.
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I think you're good.
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Okay, all right, okay, okay.
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There's a there's a complete illustration of that 62-year-old brain.
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What?
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What show shows how much I'm listening.
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Good lord.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Now, I was gonna ask you about your son, but you actually shared earlier the the essence of of that.
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So I'm gonna switch it around.
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And uh, do you have one question for me?
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Yeah, I would say when you're you know, you're putting yourself out there right now with the hot switch with Ali Mang.
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And when you wake up in the morning and you take a look at where you are and what you've done and what you've produced, do you ever take a look and and go, wow?
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Good question.
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And I will tell you that not always, except when I am literally at the precipice of showtime, where um I know that for years, years, no matter what I was performing, was singing, shopping channel, you know, performing as a matter of whatever, there would be this moment where everything was blank in my head and I had nothing.
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And I was like panicking.
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But I realized the quiet before performance was exactly where I needed to be, because I've got a very dizzy, noisy head.
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And that's when that, hey, look at what you've done.
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Now let's just show up for these people and let the rest of it just whatever comes out, comes out.
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It's all about motive, it's all about, as you said earlier, purpose.
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So, yes, I do.
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Should I do that more often?
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I think we all should.
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Um, but you know, we're wired differently.
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:32.559
And um, I I am I'm like a fast twitch person.
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:38.159
I'm not, you know, even though I've done marathons, no business doing marathons, but I've done them.
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Um I'm a jumper, I'm a figure skater, I'm a fast twitch.
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:44.719
I was a 50-meter competitive swimmer.
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So I'm that person, and I need some ignition.
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And that's what happens to me at the precipice of a showtime.
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:55.039
Good question.
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:57.679
Simon, we are done.
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Ah, that was so much fun.
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Thank you again for giving me the honor.
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I feel so privileged.
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:14.480
And again, just to say, just well done, you know, like wow, it's really amazing to put yourself out there.
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.639
I am so afraid to do what you're doing.
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.000
It's just yeah, unbelievable.
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Well, listen, um, I do give I I it's important for me to make sure that people know, you know, you can't, no matter where you are in life, you gotta know that the people you were standing on the shoulders of helped you get here.
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.559
And it's important to me to always acknowledge you.
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Look at me, so I'm I'm a little shaky.
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:52.559
But Simon, you specifically have helped me move forward with all the fears and all of this and all of that, to just break through it.
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:57.199
And I still bring all that with me, but it's about purpose.
00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.440
And it isn't about, well, how many dollars?
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Blah blah blah blah.
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:01.920
All of that, like you just said.
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I mean, what you shared with us is so important and it transcends to everybody, somebody just getting out of high school, just getting out of college, or you know, the the ones who are a little longer in experience.
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:22.159
We all deserve that chance to just do what we want to do and and drive our passions forward.
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.079
So I thank you immensely.
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:26.159
Thank you for being such an honored guest.
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:29.679
I always have to thank Victor, our producer.
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You always make me look so good.
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And at least, you know, I know you do your best, and I do the best I can.
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:39.679
Now, as I close the show, you know I always do.
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I will, this candle has been on the whole time, representing that wonderful things are taking place right now for all of us.
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.639
I thank you for taking the time with us.
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I know time is so valuable to all of us.
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:56.079
And for now, thank you, Simon.
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:57.760
Shoza.
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:01.519
Hi, Allie Mang here.
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:04.719
I gained 35 pounds a few years ago and I couldn't get rid of it.
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:10.159
I did the usual, including intermittent fasting, a trainer, and even cut down to 1400 calories a day.
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:14.159
Nothing seemed to budge until a friend told me to try make wellness.
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:19.679
It's bioactive plant-based precision peptides that signal to your body at the silly little level.
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.440
Well, the first product I tried was lame, and that was the turn.
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.039
The best thing is I'm keeping it up with no crazy.
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:37.119
For 15 years, I sold products all over the world on my life should be 100 products products.
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I said yes to it.
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Time to switch it up.
