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00:00:22.537All right. Well, welcome everybody to episode 14 of season two.
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00:00:26.485I guess that's technically episode two of season two.
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00:00:32.877is i feel like we're in like the ted lasso you've only got three sips of wine
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00:00:35.541you know i know and but i'm getting today,
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00:00:42.317today's today's a thursday you know we i get i get patient out what do we see today about 40 people,
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00:01:04.296Lisa Galensky is the top interior designer in North Florida.
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00:01:09.135I have come to know her over the course of the last several years and have been
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00:01:14.625marveled, not by the quality of work, but by the approach.
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00:01:21.728And so I started to think as I was designing the episodes for season two, now episode two.
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00:01:40.890So it used to be something is wrong aesthetically, you lift it,
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00:01:50.699we're only going to fix the cheek.
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00:01:58.122right? You're not looking at everything from an entire view, right?
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00:02:04.416It's like in your realm, only correcting one room, right? Or one item in a room.
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00:02:08.800Or one item. Right. Like if you've ever gone to a house showing and the whole
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00:02:12.668downstairs of the house is beautifully done and you get to the second floor
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00:02:24.102Well, I do want to talk. I want to get into that.
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00:02:29.556But I want to first, I got to get to know you better. Okay. I don't feel like I know you well enough.
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00:02:34.400Why interior design? Oh, interesting. Well, when I was a child,
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00:02:38.261believe it or not, we had, you know, all little girls have Barty's.
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00:02:57.255So that's what my mother would say is like the earliest signs.
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00:03:03.290And I always was more artistically driven and more creatively driven.
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00:03:07.971And I love people and I love being able to make people's lives better.
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00:03:11.700And I think through good design, you can make people's environments and their
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00:03:14.450lives better, how they function, how they live, all those things.
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00:03:18.153So when it came time to decide what I wanted to do for school,
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00:03:20.760my sister was very academic and,
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00:03:25.752Went to, you know, really smart school and I went to a nice high school,
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00:03:28.102but it was a regular. So my parents were kind of like, okay.
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00:03:31.249What is it that you want to do? And I was like, I want to be an interior designer.
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00:03:34.942And it came from when we moved to Florida and my mom and dad bought a house
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00:03:39.662So every day after- How old were you at this time? Eighth grade.
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00:03:43.562Eighth grade. So every day after school, we would go with my mom.
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00:03:46.392She'd pick us up from school and we would go to all the showrooms and the furniture
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00:03:51.366stores and the tile showrooms and all the places with her. And so I just loved it.
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00:03:54.782Loved it. So when the time came, she's like, well, what do you want to do?
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00:03:55.622What do you think you want to do?
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00:03:58.532And I said, I want to be an interior designer. And, you know,
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00:04:01.892back then, a lot of people were like, no, you have to get a teaching degree.
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00:04:04.142You've got to get something to fall back on. That's artsy.
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00:04:07.682That's not going to, you're not going to be able to support yourself with that.
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00:04:11.603But my parents, luckily, my father particularly, was very much.
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00:04:15.330If that's what you want to do, is find the very best place for you to learn to do.
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00:04:18.954So he sent me, I got to go to Savannah College of Art and Design,
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00:04:22.452which was amazing. It's a four-year degree in interior design.
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00:04:26.142All the professors had to work in their profession while they were teaching.
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00:04:29.422I had some drawing teachers that were, like, he worked under Andy Warhol.
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00:04:34.642He's, like, studying under Andy Warhol. I mean, just, like, really cool, different people.
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00:04:39.022So I got to see the textiles and the graphic design and the interior design.
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00:04:42.792And then we were in this big old train station with architects.
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00:04:45.702So we worked side by side with architects, which is very different than other
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00:04:48.532schools. So Florida State at the time was in home economics.
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00:04:52.662They now have a fabulous program. But at the time, it was like cooking and sewing.
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00:04:55.859So I really wanted to go somewhere with the architecture base.
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00:05:01.179So I never look back. So over the course of years.
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00:05:06.682One's philosophy of business, forget about the brick and mortar,
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00:05:11.454forget about the numbers and the spreadsheet and the boring parts of running a business. Okay.
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00:05:13.722We're not going to talk about that. You and I have talked to Nazi.
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00:05:15.953We could keep talking about that forever. Right.
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00:05:19.491But for, for this argument's sake.
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00:05:28.081There is an artistic element that morphs throughout the years of the artist's mind, right?
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00:05:38.840Absolutely. Like you probably, you probably changed your approach in the course of 20 plus years. Yes.
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00:05:42.465Tell me about that. Well, I'm old enough now to redo my own work.
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00:05:50.497Yeah. It's a little humbling. And you look back, I think it took me a little
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00:06:00.047And I'm sure for you, you can see what the finished result in someone's face
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00:06:08.577And so for me, it's a lot, a million little pieces. And for you,
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00:06:10.652it's a little million little tweaks.
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00:06:14.483But all of those things have to come together. And the more you do it,
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00:06:18.837you know, it's that, you know, rule, like you do something 10,000 times and
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00:06:23.587I think there's part of that. I think it's part of always educating yourself.
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00:06:32.067I look back at my early work and it was very safe. It was very matching.
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00:06:37.127It was very pretty, but it didn't have the elements that now that I'm older
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00:06:44.127I know everything's fixable. And so I'm like, you know what,
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00:06:48.277if we put this really cool, funky chair in there and it doesn't work,
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00:06:50.841we're going to change it out. We're going to make it right. Let's fix it.
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00:06:54.087But generally, those risks really pay off.
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00:06:58.317And they're the difference between having a pretty environment that is safe
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00:07:06.865when you go into the room, has a different aesthetic. It's just the different layers.
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00:07:10.797It's the different, the mixing of things. There's a famous designer that says,
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00:07:13.707every room is the right amount of wrong. Right.
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00:07:19.014And so, and so, you know, that was one thing that I came across early in my
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00:07:22.874career when I was doing a lot of these, what I call stump speeches,
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00:07:26.217right? Trying to build my business. And I was doing these talks all the time.
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00:07:30.644I remember the first couple of talks, I had three or four people out of,
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00:07:34.664you know, and you go to the, you think you're, you're, you think this is the
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00:07:40.954come to see you, but whatever.
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00:07:46.874But the point is, the way you look at things changes so much.
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00:07:49.889And I remember that I used to get a picture of Michelle Pfeiffer,
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00:07:56.785who everybody at that point, this was in the early 2000s, had mentioned her perfect symmetry.
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00:08:01.197What made her beautiful was her symmetry. All the supermodels have that symmetry.
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00:08:05.440Well, I'm here to tell you, they don't. Really? And I'm going to tell you how I know that now.
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00:08:10.404So i took it upon myself to get a picture of michelle pfeiffer and put it into
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00:08:13.674this program called photoshop any of you guys ever heard of that well i just
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00:08:18.798want to know i want you to know that i had photoshop version one okay and back then,
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00:08:40.478And you can probably, and I want you to get to this in a minute,
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00:08:46.959you don't have to have like Taj Mahal balance. Yes, there's a place for that,
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00:08:56.113And in a face, you're never going to have perfect symmetry.
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00:09:00.793The face is made from two separate halves, right? God makes us from two separate
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00:09:03.003halves. We fuse in the middle. That's why when it doesn't work,
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00:09:06.573we have cleft lips. We have cleft collets and cleft disorders in the middle of life.
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00:09:12.651However, you have to work within the already asymmetric disbalance of the face.
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00:09:21.043To my point, how many of you guys in this room, when you, somebody says,
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00:09:24.672take a picture, he says, take this side, take me from this angle, right?
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00:09:29.819Why is that? That you have seen in your photographs that over a course of time
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00:09:34.669of getting photos, you have seen that that side, the structures balance better.
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00:09:43.839And so in your business, that's got to be something that's amazingly similar, right?
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00:09:46.829Absolutely. And it doesn't have to be the same exact thing.
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00:09:49.849So, for instance, we've all walked into someone's house and they have a big,
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00:09:54.486huge, dark sectional sofa and you walk in and the whole room feels like it's
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00:10:05.359You don't really know what it is. Well, you go in and you put a really tall
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00:10:12.019wood wall unit or a fireplace or something on the other wall and suddenly it's visual balance.
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00:10:16.705Even though they're different, it balances out the space because you have heavy and heavy.
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00:10:20.658And in between can be all light but you'd have to think about that visual balance
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00:10:24.349when you walk in and i'm sure you think about it too in aesthetics it's like
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00:10:27.329maybe somebody's eyebrow is i don't know heavy
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00:10:33.525i don't know how you do it but i know for me it has to do with fabrics patterns depths of color
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00:10:39.289it can also be heights you know like like is this is everything low in a room
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00:10:42.894that doesn't feel right you need lamps that balance each other or.
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00:10:45.039You know you You might need arc here.
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00:10:47.909And if you do art on one side of the fireplace, it feels odd that there's not
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00:10:51.279art on this right side. But on the right side, you might do two small pictures
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00:11:00.275So even though they're different and show interest, they're visually similar.
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00:11:05.907But, you know, there's also a bigger component to this.
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00:11:16.078And that's that you can have Lisa Galensky can have the same exact style, so to speak. Okay.
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00:11:20.192The je ne sais quoi or whatever i learned that in quebec by the way when i went
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00:11:23.042there i don't know many french words my wife will be very happy to hear me say
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00:11:26.891that you did it properly thank you very much i'm proud of myself for that one
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00:11:30.002either way but you have different clients,
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00:11:34.552who have different interpretations of beauty i have different patients who have
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00:11:41.582different interpretations of beauty you have different friends of the clients that have different.
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00:11:45.152Interpretations of their beauty, right?
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00:11:49.023So now I have friends that they're going to dinner with and they're saying,
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00:11:51.212well, I never really noticed that.
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00:11:59.342And in my industry, I'm not looking for that wow. I'm not looking for the world to say wow.
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00:12:04.966I'm looking for the patient and the closest people to them to be wowed.
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00:12:06.940Like their best self. Right.
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00:12:11.432And so now all of a sudden they stop. And this is kind of going back to last
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00:12:14.064year's episode, season one, episode one.
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00:12:20.782The, the idea of the personal interpretation of the disbalance is really what
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00:12:26.401Right. So how do you get to that? It's like programming, right?
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00:12:29.531In the beginning, there's lots of questions. There's lots of like,
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00:12:32.171how do you live? What do you, you know, do you have pets?
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00:12:37.221Do you have children? Do you like to come in the back door and drop your purse
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00:12:39.625down on a hook or put it on a countertop?
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00:12:43.845And then you get into the aesthetics of it. So first you do functionality,
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00:12:47.521and then you get into the aesthetics of, okay, what do you like?
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00:12:51.441Do you want, do you like pattern? Do you like color? What do you not like?
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00:12:54.061How do you? Because what you don't like is. What if they don't?
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00:12:59.536That happens a lot. Then. If you ask me, do I like patterns or I like stripes?
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00:13:03.199I'm going to say, I don't know, maybe color. Right.
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00:13:08.281Exactly. So I think it's a lot of showing images and asking how they feel about the images.
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00:13:10.811I think what people like is as important as what they don't like.
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00:13:14.701So they'll a lot of times bring in Pinterest boards or ideas,
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00:13:17.511Instagram folders of things that they like or don't like. Now,
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00:13:21.401if they don't know, then it's my job to ask even more questions.
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00:13:25.781So I think it's important to look at the architecture of the space too.
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00:13:26.994You want to make sure that,
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00:13:32.555You're not giving a super contemporary interior to a Mediterranean exterior. Sure.
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00:13:35.951So let's say they want contemporary, but it's a Mediterranean house.
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00:13:40.551You want to make sure that you do like a California modern with beautiful textures
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00:13:42.571and wood tones and things like that.
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00:13:47.181So that's a way to do contemporary with the exterior that they have.
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00:13:50.911So it's also leading the client where you want them to go. And that's something
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00:13:52.650that comes with experience that.
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00:13:56.209Well, ultimately, you are the voice of knowledge in the room.
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00:14:00.891Yeah. You know, I think we all get clients that come to us for our expertise
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00:14:04.881and respect our expertise and listen to our expertise. But then there are those
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00:14:09.751clients that I get sometimes that ask all their friends and their friends' friends.
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00:14:15.041And then all of a sudden, they're coming with notions and things in their heads
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00:14:18.721that their friends did or that they think they should do or that they read about.
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00:14:22.452And then suddenly it's like, this isn't right for your project. It's nice. It's pretty.
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00:14:27.451But this isn't right for you. And so it's also our job to take all of the wide
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00:14:30.241range of what they give us and narrow it down to what works for them.
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00:14:36.131Pretty much like a patient comes in to see me and they have five friends that
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00:14:39.264have told them what they need or even worse.
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00:14:48.150Chat gpt or ai or rather google has told them hey listen this is what i feel you need so they come in
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00:14:54.054tell beds do they do their own choppy chat gpt images of what they could look
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00:14:57.524like these days i'm beginning to see those,
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00:15:03.384last week i saw a young lady who she says i have a chat gpt rendering of my
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00:15:07.084nose that i want you to do and i said all right hold on a second don't show
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00:15:11.364it to me let's go to 3d vector imaging system,
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00:15:16.464let me design the nose that i think fits your face would you believe it was
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00:15:21.484the same exact nose that's amazing and she said can i show you a picture and
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00:15:24.664she shows it to me on her phone i said looks like that one up on the screen and then.
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00:15:30.644They understand they have such confidence in you right if she had shown you
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00:15:33.664that picture and then you copied it right it doesn't mean she told you what
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00:15:37.687to do so honestly i wasn't doing it to gain i wasn't doing it to gain her conference,
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00:15:39.736I was actually doing it to humor myself.
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00:15:44.814Right. Like, I'm sorry for, for you who's watching that I wasn't doing it to
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00:15:46.924like humor myself. No, but I think that part of that too is...
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00:15:49.463But I kind of wanted to challenge myself to see how close my...
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00:15:53.039And so that's when I realized what ChatGPT does, okay?
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00:15:58.028ChatGPT is an informational database based upon averages over the internet,
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00:16:03.129images, analytics, data, interpretations all over the internet.
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00:16:08.135It's basically the best internet scouring device that you're ever going to get, right?
00:16:08.594 -->
00:16:13.029And so what it does is it takes a particular data points of a person's face,
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00:16:17.832say on an image, and it says historically across the internet,
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00:16:20.972surgeons are doing this to this nose.
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00:16:28.032And so we are going to say that this is what would fit on this person's face and the only reason
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00:16:30.899that there's congruency between
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00:16:36.475amongst surgeons doing similar noses on a similar face is because of,
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00:16:42.766balance and hurry and experience and experience and that face for whatever reason
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00:16:45.419the nose that now fits that face
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00:16:50.449balances with everything else right right and so when i'm looking at somebody
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00:16:52.240when they come in for a consultation,
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00:16:56.669I'm saying to myself, what, and oftentimes they'll come in and say,
00:16:56.669 -->
00:16:58.509I think I need this, this, this, this, and this.
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00:17:02.559And I said, hold on a second. Let's find the one or two things that are going
00:17:02.559 -->
00:17:05.420to reestablish the harmony to the face.
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00:17:11.239And once you've corrected those things, like I saw a lady today in clinic who
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00:17:13.819wanted a brow lift, eyes, and
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00:17:17.789a facelift. And I said, all you really need to do is correct your eyes.
00:17:18.312 -->
00:17:21.359And that was a year and a half ago. And she came in today just to follow up
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00:17:24.629and say, I just want to tell you, thank you so much for not telling me to do
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00:17:26.485all this things. You corrected the eyes and...
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00:17:32.174Our job isn't to sell them on meaningless nonsense.
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00:17:36.712Our job is their happiness, their eventual happiness, right?
00:17:36.712 -->
00:17:41.822Right. And it's crazy how they, like how much they're correlating because I
00:17:41.822 -->
00:17:44.232can go into someone's kitchen and like, I think I need a whole new kitchen.
00:17:44.232 -->
00:17:46.912I'm like, no, you need new countertops and a new backsplash and you need to
00:17:46.912 -->
00:17:50.159paint your cabinets. These are good cabinets. The layout's good.
00:17:50.732 -->
00:17:53.712I wouldn't change the layout. Why would you, you know, if for sure.
00:17:53.712 -->
00:17:56.752And so it's sort of similar. It's like, you've got to do what's right for the
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00:18:00.452client and right for the thing and i think that comes back to integrity too like we.
00:18:01.012 -->
00:18:05.072You know i i don't just sell people things to sell them right i don't go and
00:18:05.072 -->
00:18:08.612find the most expensive things to sell people i say you know it's sometimes
00:18:08.612 -->
00:18:11.692it's high low you know there's going to be something that's this is the right
00:18:11.692 -->
00:18:15.832whatever the right table is it's the right table whether it's the lower you know the
00:18:16.252 -->
00:18:20.754mid lane price point or whether it's you know the high based on their budget
00:18:21.016 -->
00:18:24.777so it's nice to have a mix in there yeah and like sometimes
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00:18:26.809you know You got to have,
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00:18:32.092places where you're going to put budgetary dollars, more budgetary dollars towards
00:18:32.092 -->
00:18:35.072something because you say, you know what, I'm willing to die on the hill for that one.
00:18:35.438 -->
00:18:39.632I'm willing to put more money into that one. I'm willing to kind of not put
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00:18:42.311as much money into this other one. Right. It's like priorities.
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00:18:46.312But I would think, too, like people, like we have what I call wow points.
00:18:46.312 -->
00:18:49.103When you go into a home, you want things that catch people's eye.
00:18:49.335 -->
00:18:53.043I would think if everything's a wow point, nothing really stands out.
00:18:53.246 -->
00:18:55.992And I would think it's similar for you. It's like, if you do their eyes,
00:18:56.236 -->
00:18:59.034then their eyes stand out. But if you did their eyes and their chin and their,
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00:19:03.252you know, all those too many things, then nothing's really the strength in the face.
00:19:03.592 -->
00:19:08.107Well, you know, but, but also to, to that point, I understand what you're saying.
00:19:08.479 -->
00:19:15.790What we do is we find that as that aesthetic stronghold of the face, right?
00:19:16.116 -->
00:19:20.576Everybody's got a feature, right? Everybody's got a power, power place. Yeah.
00:19:21.239 -->
00:19:28.779And what we do is we take, in our world, we're not as much accentuating things like you guys are.
00:19:29.121 -->
00:19:35.811We're detracting this beauty to enhance natural beauty. Do you understand what
00:19:35.811 -->
00:19:37.031I mean by that? It's the opposite.
00:19:38.771 -->
00:19:42.791It's kind of the flip side of what you guys do. You guys are bringing in something
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00:19:45.097to attract an attentive eye.
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00:19:52.055I'm doing things to detract the critical eye and allow the natural beauty to rise on its own.
00:19:52.771 -->
00:19:59.616Right. And that is how, at least in our industry, we seek that natural look
00:19:59.974 -->
00:20:03.562and that, huh, you look really good.
00:20:04.345 -->
00:20:08.381I don't know why, but something's just really good about you.
00:20:08.381 -->
00:20:13.351It just seems like it's, I don't know. It's just balance. And we used the word
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00:20:16.627balance of harmony today about a hundred times. I'm sorry, guys.
00:20:16.918 -->
00:20:20.211We drink every time. I know. We should have done the George Thorogood drinking,
00:20:20.918 -->
00:20:23.521game. By the way, a friend of mine went to go see him in St.
00:20:23.521 -->
00:20:26.471Augustine. Yes. George Thorogood. You know who he is.
00:20:27.094 -->
00:20:31.569Says he gets around a little slower, guitar is exactly the same,
00:20:31.870 -->
00:20:33.595and he sounds just as good.
00:20:34.211 -->
00:20:37.891And I'm like, and you didn't invite me. Do you know how many parties I went
00:20:37.891 -->
00:20:42.031to in college listening to George Thorogood? Yeah, that, that was some good
00:20:42.031 -->
00:20:45.015memories. Man, well, if you can call on memories.
00:20:45.207 -->
00:20:49.431In order for you to have a memory, you have to remember the entire event, Lisa. Yeah, well.
00:20:51.691 -->
00:20:56.546But I'm curious. So what's next? That's a good question.
00:20:58.744 -->
00:21:03.795I love design, but I've kind of twisted into more of a mentorship program.
00:21:04.062 -->
00:21:07.826Like, I feel like now my job is to take all the knowledge and the things that
00:21:07.826 -->
00:21:14.106I've learned over time and to impart it to the next generation of designers.
00:21:14.466 -->
00:21:19.019So I'm going to do that with people in my office, first of all.
00:21:19.286 -->
00:21:23.048I now have some designers that have been with me 10 years, five years.
00:21:23.408 -->
00:21:26.946And so that's great because they worked alongside me and learned so much.
00:21:26.946 -->
00:21:30.176And then I've been able to help them along the way with things.
00:21:30.176 -->
00:21:34.966So they're very strong, talented designers that will continue on when I don't
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00:21:36.382want to do this anymore someday.
00:21:36.718 -->
00:21:40.506But so that's one. And then two, I've been doing a lot of mentorship through
00:21:40.506 -->
00:21:45.032the American Society of Interior Designers. So I mentor young students,
00:21:45.299 -->
00:21:48.207which a lot of them, ironically, are second careers.
00:21:48.647 -->
00:21:51.207Interior design is a huge second career for people.
00:21:51.729 -->
00:21:54.656Like they've been married, had kids, and now they want to get back to the workforce.
00:21:54.746 -->
00:21:56.926They went to college for something else, and their parents were like,
00:21:56.926 -->
00:22:00.416you know, you have to get a finance degree or be an accountant.
00:22:00.416 -->
00:22:03.486And they're like, no, I've always wanted to do design. And then they go back to school for it. Yeah.
00:22:05.386 -->
00:22:10.520What is the, after one's graduated from college, what is the general curriculum like?
00:22:10.903 -->
00:22:16.316So you can get a four-year degree and then you they license interior designers
00:22:16.316 -->
00:22:20.166in the state of florida and california and some other states so that's sort
00:22:20.166 -->
00:22:23.268of like they do architects so you have to have a four-year degree,
00:22:23.784 -->
00:22:27.696and have two years work experience under a licensed designer and then you sit
00:22:27.696 -->
00:22:31.197for a two-day exam which is drafting and codes and
00:22:31.412 -->
00:22:35.266so it's not an additional act didactic curriculum that you go through no not
00:22:35.266 -->
00:22:39.226i have to take i have to do ceus probably like you do like 20 hours of CEOs,
00:22:39.429 -->
00:22:42.761or you have to have a two year degree and then work four years under someone. Yeah.
00:22:43.394 -->
00:22:47.577Well, it's a beautiful career. You guys make a huge difference in people's lives. It's great.
00:22:47.917 -->
00:22:52.630And I can't tell you how happy I am that you came on the show. So fun.
00:22:54.037 -->
00:22:58.807I think that when I came up with the idea, I have kind of a bum right shoulder,
00:22:58.807 -->
00:23:03.177so I couldn't reach back to pat my back enough with the idea. I'm kidding.
00:23:04.002 -->
00:23:08.907But I think this kind of brings it to the end of episode, season two,
00:23:08.907 -->
00:23:10.217episode two. I keep saying that.
00:23:10.617 -->
00:23:16.160Or Izzy, episode 14. It's okay to say it. And just know that next week,
00:23:16.723 -->
00:23:23.381we are going to be talking about best types of anesthesia, and we are going to have our...
00:23:24.104 -->
00:23:30.585Anesthesia guru david armstrong on here and it's not going to be sleepy for
00:23:30.585 -->
00:23:34.299all you uh puns puns people out there,
00:23:34.817 -->
00:23:38.578it's going to actually be very interesting and when he told me yes i'll do it
00:23:38.834 -->
00:23:41.875he said as long as i can have some bourbon and i said sure we will have bourbon
00:23:41.875 -->
00:23:42.745on the show i think that's a lot of.
00:23:43.765 -->
00:23:47.485Mystery behind anesthesia i know a lot of people don't know i would be really
00:23:47.485 -->
00:23:51.095interested you know does which what are the levels of anesthesia is it safe
00:23:51.095 -->
00:23:53.845am i going to lose my mind am i gonna have dementia i get asked that all the
00:23:53.845 -->
00:23:57.136time oh really yeah yeah it's like a common question because people
00:23:57.426 -->
00:24:00.260all you got to do is get something on the news one time,
00:24:00.859 -->
00:24:02.765of a person who was already going to have dementia,
00:24:03.385 -->
00:24:06.605they have an as they have an aesthetic and all of a sudden my mother now has
00:24:06.605 -->
00:24:09.955alzheimer's because what she was probably already going to have it i think there's
00:24:09.955 -->
00:24:15.385a lot of things like that in medicine yeah so one thing i do do lisa which is
00:24:15.385 -->
00:24:16.941really fun at the end of every show,
00:24:17.661 -->
00:24:23.955is my dad i don't know if you know this but he passed uh last year he's my best
00:24:23.955 -->
00:24:25.268friend remember that yeah,
00:24:25.924 -->
00:24:29.365and funny story about my dad instead of a lesson today we're going to tell a
00:24:29.365 -->
00:24:31.805story so when i was cutting my
00:24:31.805 -->
00:24:35.874teeth and coming up and i had the new the original office in neptune beach,
00:24:36.430 -->
00:24:42.275my dad would come there he and i were as thick as thieves all right I mean, constantly together.
00:24:42.822 -->
00:24:47.045And he would come to the office at least three times a week. Remember that, Lori?
00:24:48.405 -->
00:24:50.635He would just show up and all of a sudden he's walking out of the hallway.
00:24:50.874 -->
00:24:52.487And one day I'm there with a patient.
00:24:52.957 -->
00:24:57.025It was in the afternoon. And he just stands there in the hallway.
00:24:57.489 -->
00:25:01.245And I have my back to him because my back's at the door. And the door's open.
00:25:01.621 -->
00:25:05.633And you see the patient just kind of look up. And she says, hi.
00:25:06.228 -->
00:25:08.556And he goes, hi, who are you?
00:25:09.166 -->
00:25:12.649And she goes, I'm so-and-so. And he goes, what are you here for?
00:25:13.860 -->
00:25:18.548This is this is an old gold gruff cuban immigrant okay,
00:25:19.129 -->
00:25:23.380and she says well i'm asking dr gracia whether i should do a cheek lift or whatnot
00:25:23.380 -->
00:25:27.640he walks in he had these short stubby fingers okay my dad did what did he do
00:25:27.640 -->
00:25:33.200from he was an internist but he was uh he was an olympic rower in cuba okay,
00:25:33.860 -->
00:25:42.640he was strong but he had old strength my dad used to do 100 100 or 120 push-ups
00:25:42.640 -->
00:25:48.373every day and 200 sit-ups every day wow till he was probably 70 he did that.
00:25:49.380 -->
00:25:54.450Just natural strength anyway he walks in with those big sausage fingers and
00:25:54.450 -->
00:25:58.260he grabs this woman's face and starts moving it up and down and her eyes get
00:25:58.260 -->
00:26:03.420to the size of silver dollars and she's thinking herself who is this old man who just walked out,
00:26:03.963 -->
00:26:07.700because i hadn't introduced him to her right is he like yeah it was the signal
00:26:07.700 -->
00:26:12.949that's coming in and grabbing my face yeah and i said dad dad dad dad hold on a second
00:26:13.385 -->
00:26:18.005and he says she doesn't need anything leave her alone and he walks out he turns around he leaves
00:26:18.267 -->
00:26:21.510and i said that was my father i just want you to know that you don't need anything
00:26:21.510 -->
00:26:25.860apparently you like passed the meeting standard yeah i thought that was the
00:26:25.860 -->
00:26:29.100funniest story i was just thinking about it the other day and i said man
00:26:29.501 -->
00:26:33.790you know i hope that one day you know my son rocco he's in pre-med at miami
00:26:33.790 -->
00:26:36.200oh i didn't know he was doing yeah,
00:26:36.840 -->
00:26:40.590yeah yeah he's he's he loves it i asked him one day i said rocco are you sure
00:26:40.590 -->
00:26:43.102you want to do this when he was in high school that's hard and he says dad,
00:26:43.636 -->
00:26:46.404There's nothing else in the world I would rather do. So, you know,
00:26:46.404 -->
00:26:50.222in medicine, we did a motivational Monday thing a few days ago.
00:26:50.651 -->
00:26:54.474It's a calling. I believe. Like yours. Yeah, absolutely. You know,
00:26:54.474 -->
00:26:59.817early on, if it's, and if you pick it up along the way, it's probably not that calling.
00:27:00.084 -->
00:27:02.904Like I had it when I was 14. I knew. Yeah.
00:27:03.384 -->
00:27:05.824My husband's a dentist and he knew. Yeah. You know.
00:27:06.504 -->
00:27:09.878And so, and so it's an interesting thing because my dad had that,
00:27:10.400 -->
00:27:16.636had that calling later, you know in college and he was an engineer first,
00:27:17.083 -->
00:27:20.784when he came from cuba he studied engineering in florida and then after a while
00:27:20.784 -->
00:27:23.754he went to study medicine because he always wanted to study medicine right but
00:27:23.754 -->
00:27:26.854he didn't have an avenue in the united states so he studied in spain then he
00:27:26.854 -->
00:27:29.237came back but i hope one day,
00:27:29.736 -->
00:27:34.142that i'm that old gruff guy and my son rocco is examining a patient.
00:27:34.884 -->
00:27:39.034And i can pay it forward that would be such a full circle oh my gosh i can't
00:27:39.034 -->
00:27:42.977wait to have that moment and i hope he handles it with as much grace as i did
00:27:43.271 -->
00:27:45.384because i took my dad into the back room and i yelled out,
00:27:46.024 -->
00:27:52.524yeah oops i'm like dad we're starting a business what are you doing ah forget
00:27:52.524 -->
00:27:56.284about it'll be fine she'll get over it she didn't end up scheduling anything whatever,
00:27:57.504 -->
00:28:03.764so listen very good having you here so much fun i'll come anytime yeah yeah
00:28:03.764 -->
00:28:04.754we got to have you out again.
00:28:04.754 -->
00:28:09.085And remember that good decisions always come from good information.
00:28:09.566 -->
00:28:12.944This is the Contour team signing out. Have a great week, guys.
00:28:12.944 -->
00:28:15.238This is going to be an awesome season. Bye-bye.