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Make you cry now No This time Can what I
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Hello everybody, welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony Gerdeman,
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here as always with Tom Orton. How's it going?
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Tony, I'm used to you power-pausing me. You power-paused yourself
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at the start of this show. That was impressive. I
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was all ready for you to start and I could
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see you in your head going, how do I start
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the show? I've started 2,000 of these over the years,
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but the words, how do they go?
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They just, sometimes they just You know, like Eminem, it
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just comes to you and you just flow. That's a
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lot of what I do here.
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Welcome to Mom's Spaghetti. I'm Tony Gertman.
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Hello, everybody. We are here. Speaking of Mom's Spaghetti, we're
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here to recap Ohio State's 30-18 loss that looked a little, anyway,
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I won't get too graphic, but did not go well.
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And Tom and I rewatched it via the television, not
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at the same time, not together, but to get a
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better look at what we thought we saw, what we
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didn't see, and maybe confirm some things and find some
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other things out. And so, Tom, I will go ahead
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and leave this first part up to you. What's something
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that you learned from watching this on TV?
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Well, first of all, I will say I enjoyed it
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better the second time because I was not getting rained
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on the whole time the second time through, so already
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a step in the right direction. I'm going to start— I
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know there's been a lot of bad vibes— But I'm
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going to start with a positive, which is Luke Fahey,
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he had some really nice balls. There were plenty of
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times when, you know, if his feet aren't set, the
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ball tends to sail on him a little bit. But
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there were some really nice balls as well. Like the
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opening drive that shot down the hash marks to Philip Bell,
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that was a really nice ball. There was another one
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to Jeremiah Smith on the second drive. And these are
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like intermediate range throws where, you know, it's not, way downfield.
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Some of the deep stuff, it felt like he was
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a little off on, but the intermediate range stuff, if
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you can kind of live in that 15-ish yards downfield,
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you know, short and intermediate range, you can do a
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lot in those areas. And it felt like he was,
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you know, he wasn't perfect there, but he had some
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really nice balls, some into somewhat tight windows. So, you know,
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I think on a night where there's lots, I think,
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for Ohio State fans to be annoyed about, I think
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that was a promising sign on a night when the
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weather was not great. You're on the road. There's a
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lot that the game did not start off well. You're
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playing from behind the whole game. I thought that was
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one thing that I looked at and thought there's something
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there that they can work with.
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Yeah, and that's one of my first thoughts as well
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in terms of there was definitely stuff that you can
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work on. A lot of building blocks. He looks fine.
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He looks comfortable. I think what My main takeaway was
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that he didn't do anything to lose the game. He
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also didn't do anything to win the game, which is
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probably fine for a freshman quarterback. There were plays that
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he did not make. There were reads that he did
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not make. But he was not the reason that Ohio
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State lost. He's not giving up 30 points. Would this
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game have been different with Julian saying? It certainly would
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have been different. Do I know that Ohio State wins? No,
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I don't know that. But some of the reads, some
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of the throws, some of the inaccuracies. I think he
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needs to let it rip more. A lot of these
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throws had maybe too much touch, like the throw to
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Bo Jackson in the red zone on the left side,
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where Bo Jackson is open for a touchdown if he
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just lets it rip. But instead he throws a lollipop
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and it's overthrown. And most of his incompletions were overthrown.
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So he needs to get the footballs down a little bit.
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But they're coming from a lower trajectory, so you have
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to throw them higher and it's all It's geometry and
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all of that. But watching this, I just felt like
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not all of the RPL reads were right. And that's
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assuming some were right and some were wrong. Or some
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of the gives were actually reads and not just straight gives.
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But yeah, I'm not looking at Luke Fahey and saying, well,
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Ohio State can't win with this guy. They can't win
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their next four or five games with this guy. I
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don't think that's true at all. I think he can
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go out there and win every single one of them.
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The other thing that I'm going to take away from
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this game is it can't just be him and it's
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got to be others as well. And, you know, this
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is not the most talented Ohio state team of the
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Ryan day era. Maybe it's the, I don't want to
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say least because that's a subjective, you know, there's, and
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the 2020 team, I'd say maybe defensively less talented, but
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The guys that you have have to do more, and
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I don't know how many of those guys actually did
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more in this game to help up the freshman quarterback.
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I guess we can start with the offensive line on
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that one because the penalties, the false starts, the couple
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of false starts in there, they still ran the ball
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pretty well, pretty darn well, well enough. And I guess
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that's why I think you watch this again, you're confused
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a little bit more because there are mistakes, but they're
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moving the ball. But again, then you get into the
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red zone and there's the mistakes are just magnified down there.
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And they had a mistake nearly every single time in
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the red zone. And that's not necessarily Luke. That's not
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Luke Fahey's fault because whether it's, well, the cadence is different.
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The voice is different. Yeah. You know, Jake Cook comes
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in on what down on the goal line and he,
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Has a false start. Well, he moves and then Nate
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Roberts sees him and moves. And suddenly it's Nate Roberts'
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false start. And that's the one play where they take
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Jeremiah Smith out and bring in that package. But I'm
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fine with Luke Fahey. This game will help him get
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better for the next and make some of those better reads.
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Everybody else needs to get better as well.
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Yeah, I think Luke Fahey, there is a reasonable expectation
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that he's going to materially improve from game one to
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game two and game two to game three. Like you
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should see significant improvement from him over the course of
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the next few games. If you don't, that might tell
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you something about the long-term projectability there, but you would
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sort of assume, you know, when does a college football
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team get better? Like the biggest jump, it's from game
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one to game two. So you would assume first time starter,
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you're going to see improvement now that you got some
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game film to teach off of. So That's an area
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to certainly be, I think, encouraged about. But yeah, the
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offensive line has been, it feels like they've been okay,
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okay to pretty good in terms of the run game.
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But the pass pro just from the tackles has not
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been great all season. The interior of the line has
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struggled with picking up some twists and stunts at times.
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It's just the pass pro has not been great. I
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don't know that they've adjusted the passing game to match
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that where you're still, it still feels like, you know, the,
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the Arthur Smith offense, they want to have, you know,
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you want to run the ball, you want to have
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hard play action off of there and you want to
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take your deep shots. Well, I don't know that you
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can give your quarterback enough time to sit back in
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the pocket and let the receivers run 40 yards downfield
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like that. That feels like you got to kind of
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look at your line and go, well, they're not doing
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their job. Like, well, you got to figure, you know,
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you got who you got at this point. So you
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got to figure out a way around that. And they,
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you know, with Austin Searveld being back now, we will
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see what they do on the offensive line. Cause Austin
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Searveld was playing left tackle on that last drive. So,
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you know, is that an indication that maybe Austin Searveld
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is going back to left tackle and Phillip Daniels will
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be at right tackle. We'll see what they look like
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this week against Oregon state or against Oregon. But it is,
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you know, that's, that's certainly a possibility. They, As weird
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as it is to say two-thirds of the way through
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the regular season, they may still sort of be figuring
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out what their best five is on the offensive line
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because they've had guys missing enough this season that you
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haven't had a ton of continuity up there from week
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to week to really be able to know for sure.
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Well, and the hard play action, the long play action
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to throw deep, right now Luke Fahey's not accurate enough
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deep that that's a winning play at this point. I
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think we've seen that. I'm not saying don't do it.
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I'm saying make sure that he's okay doing that or
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accurate enough doing that, I'd say, firsthand. Where he's better
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has been the intermediate downfield stuff. He was good at that.
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So you don't need all day to do those. You
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don't need to turn your back or anything like that
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to the defense and pull off these hard fakes for that. But, yeah,
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I think there were throws there to be made. He
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made some of them. Not everybody made the catches that
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were there for them. Either. That's why it's just everybody
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needs to help out a little bit more for those guys.
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The running game. Bo Jackson is weird to me because
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this season he seems to be he seems to play
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harder and better when he sees somebody, a teammate playing
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hard and better. Jacoby Jackson did that. And then he
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would start running harder. And then Isaiah West did it
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in this game. Then he's running like, and then Bill
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Jackson comes out and runs like a guy possessed. And
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it's almost like he has to taste his own blood,
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but the blood is only there after being punched in
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the mouth by a teammate showing him like, this is
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how you run hard. And then he goes and does it.
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And he, everybody wants to get rid of Bo Jackson
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or everybody's, you know, disappointed or frustrated. He's got 120
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yards rushing or whatever. And he's probably on pace for
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another thousand yard season. But there are that first half.
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You're like, Isaiah West is running the ball. Well, why
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do you, why do you just keep continuing to go
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back to Bo Jackson's three or four yards? And I'm
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guessing Carlos Lockton will tell you, well, did you see
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what happened in the second half? That's why. And it's like,
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I get that, but Isaiah West is doing well in
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the first half. why not let them continue to do
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well in the first half? And, you know, I don't
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know if we've ever necessarily agreed with a quarter with
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a running back rotation that we've seen at Ohio state
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outside of the one with Travion Henderson and Quinch on Judkins.
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And probably because that led to a national championship or
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was part of one. And that's why, you know, it
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was okay. This one right now is a little bit
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frustrating at times trying to just in terms of like
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figuring it out, like why, why Bo Jackson now? And,
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and like, you throw the ball to Isaiah West and
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the ball gets popped up and it gets intercepted and
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Carlos Lachlan will probably be like, you know, that's why.
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But also Bo Jackson dropped one that was going to
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be a nice big hit. So I don't know. Maybe
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there are no good answers right now. That's why everybody's frustrated.
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Well, I just, I don't think they have a back
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this year that's as good as either of the backs
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they had in 2024, which that's, that's why everyone was
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okay with the running back rotation in 2024. Cause it
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was two good backs who play well and run hard and,
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can catch the ball and pick up blitzes and do
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all the stuff to get, you know, they kind of
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check all the boxes. So then when either of them
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are in there, it's like, wow, look at the running back.
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They're doing all the things.
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And I don't know that they have anyone that's like
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really doing that this year. Jacoby Jackson was probably the
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guy who was the most complete pack for them. And
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then of course got his foot hurt in the, at
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the end of the Maryland game and has been out
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since then. So, you know, I, I, I felt the
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same thing. I had the same conversation with one of
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the photographers on the sideline during the game. It was, boy,
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I don't know why they're putting Bo Jackson back in there.
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And then immediately Bo Jackson has a 28-yard gain. It's like, well,
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all right, I guess so. But why does it take
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Bo Jackson seeing someone else, feeling like someone else is
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going to take his job to do that? He has
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had a weird season. Isaiah West has had kind of
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a weird season. It's just been kind of a weird
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season in the running back room. But at the same time,
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they ran for 200 yards, which if you can do
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that every week, great. You're going to win a whole
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lot of football. It takes a lot to lose a
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football game when you run for 200 yards and they
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did all of those things. All right. We're going to
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talk tight ends here and I'm going to start positive.
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It will not stay positive, but I'm going to start
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positive and say Mason Williams continues to be really good
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in the passing game. It feels like they hit him
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for at least twice a game for a nice gain.
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He is dragging tacklers. He's breaking tacklers. He's making guys miss.
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I would like to.
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See a couple more throws to Mason Williams every game. Like,
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you know, I don't need 12, but, like give me
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two more Mason Williams targets a game and give me
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a target or two to Nate Roberts.
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Like fine.
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A hundred percent on board with all that. I think that's,
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I think that's absolutely fine. I don't know that I
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need to see any other tight ends. Like I think,
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I think I'm really good with those two tight ends
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and you want to put Jake cook in and you
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want to use 12 personnel, then you can take one
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of them off the field and that's fine. But everyone else, like,
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I don't know. I don't know what you're getting here
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out of, out of these guys. And I certainly don't
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understand the, the fascination with the 14 personnel on.
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The goal line.
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It's first and goal at the one, and you line
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up in shotgun because reasons, and you just had a
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successful quarterback sneak, and so you line up in shotgun,
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and you don't get in, and then it's like, okay,
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by God, that's 14 personnel's music, and Jeremiah Smith goes
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off the field.
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Why? I don't know.
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It's 14 personnel time. The card says moops, so it's
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time for 14 personnel, and what happens?
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False start.
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Why are you taking the best player in college football
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off the field in favor of like the 45th best
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player on your team in the highest leverage situation? Like
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it just, it doesn't make sense. Like it does not
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make sense. And they keep doing it. And the last
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time Ryan Day was asked about it, he said, you know,
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he gave the answer from the results perspective, which is, well,
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because it didn't work. I know everyone thinks it wasn't
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the right idea. It's like, well, but it didn't work
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like three times in a row.
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It didn't work. Like, Nope. Got to just do it.
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We got to do it harder this time. Like, I
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don't think that's the answer here. Like it just, it
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just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And the,
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the tight end room, like the talent in there, there's
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not bad talent in there.
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Again, Mason Williams. I like, I like him. I think
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there's a lot of talent.
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I think you, you're, you're thrown to Nate Roberts.
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Absolutely.
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Like, I don't know that I'd go to Nate Roberts,
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like three plays in the end zone. Like they did
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right at the end of the game. Like I'd think
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about someone else, but you know, I don't, I don't
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mind seeing those tight ends out there.
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Like use 12 personnel. I get it.
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That's like where football is going.
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Totally fine. But, I just I.
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Don't understand the fascination with more than 12 personnel like
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over and over and over again. When you look at
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the results and it's like, what are you getting out
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of this?
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Well, and if you look at the Ohio State wide receivers,
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they don't go as if they were to go as
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deep as the tight ends. You know, Jaden Ricketts, true freshman,
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would be playing at this point and Des Jones would
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be playing. but they're not because there's a certain level
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that you have to be at. And that's including, that's
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dealing with injuries that they've had now with Brandon Ennis
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and Brock Boyd. It's not like they're suddenly expanding things
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beyond what they should. Whereas, you know, in this one,
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and even I'll say Mason Williams, there's a third and
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three and he's looking over to see, I don't know
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if it's a silent counter or whatever, and he's looking
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over and the ball gets snapped as he's looking back,
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whatever Luke Wafle runs by him and tackles, I think
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Isaiah West in the backfield. So then it's fourth and four.
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That's the fourth and four they're going for, but then
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there's a false start that makes it fourth and nine,
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and then they punt. So it's just errors on top
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of errors on one hand. But then there's another play
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later in the game, Brody Lennon's in, which the amazing
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thing is he doesn't play. Max LeBlanc is out. So
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now it's like, okay, well, now he's the fifth tight end,
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so he has to play. It's like, well, if he's
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not able to play normally, then why is he suddenly
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game ready when somebody else is hurt, when you still
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have three or four other guys that you play in
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front of him? And so, you know, I don't know
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if it's, these are all just so, you know, compartmentalized
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in terms of, well, you do this and you are the,
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you are the second, the second team guy that does this.
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And Max LeBlanc is the first team guy who is
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also the fourth team tight end, perhaps like I'm with you.
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you don't need all of them. And you've got two,
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I call Nate Roberts a veteran. Now, like you've got
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two veteran tight ends and Nate Roberts and Mason waves,
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two very versatile guys. They can, they both played fullback
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at Ohio state. They've both been online tight ends, like
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inline tight ends. They can go ahead and be your guys. Now,
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maybe you want a different type, like a, you know,
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a max Claire or something. Well, Nate Roberts can do
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that as well. And, you know, then also Jake cook
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has a false start on the, on the goal line.
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And it's like, where is this work? where is this
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abundance of tight end talent working for you? And when
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you look at these red zone struggles, it's, it's not
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working for you. And we talked to last week or
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two weeks ago, Ryan day saying, you know, we, we
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gotta be able to punch it in down there.
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No, you don't.
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You need to be able to score. You don't have
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to punch anything. Yeah. You know, um, do you ever watch, uh,
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of course you do like Steven Seagal, you know, his
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mode of martial arts is about using other people's momentum
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against them. It's not, it's not about fist fighting. It's
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about using the attack against them. And it's just all
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this hand stuff. And it's very, trust me, it's very useful.
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What isn't necessarily useful is we've got to punch it
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in there. And if you can't punch, then you're just
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running into a wall. And nobody's ever like, I've got
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to walk through that wall. I've got to walk through
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that wall. And there's stairs. There's a ladder. The wall
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is only this wide. you could go around the wall.
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You could try that. You could try other things. But
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this red zone stuff and this, you know, the tight ends.
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And frankly, it's not just the red zone. But when
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they're just like at the 40 and all of a
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sudden here come three tight ends, it's like.
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At least on this one, when they did that and
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Jeremiah's the only receiver out there and he's running a
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deep route, it looked like it was setting up a
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back shoulder fade to Nate Roberts. But again... The throw
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wasn't there or the route wasn't there. That's a rare
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one where you're asking a young quarterback to make a
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tough throw. You're asking a tight end. I don't know
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how many back shoulder fades Nate Roberts has run at
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Ohio State. I don't imagine it's a lot. It would
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have been a nice game. It was a nice design.
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But you could probably also do that with your wide receivers.
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Yeah. You know, there's plenty of talent in the wide
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receiver room, even with Brandon Ennis out. Like, you know,
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Devin McEwen was open several times. He didn't, you know,
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he got missed a couple times.
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Chris Henry Jr.
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Had a couple catches, had another one that he dropped,
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but at this point in the red zone, like inside
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the five, I'd put Jeremiah Smith on one side of
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the field and someone else on the other side of
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the field, and you don't have as many guys you know,
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between the tackles or right there at the line. But
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everyone who's outside is going to draw at least one defender.
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So the numbers are going to work out pretty much
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the same. So, yeah, I just continue to find that
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absolutely mystifying.
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Something else that I.
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Continue to find mystifying, Tony, how many times do you
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have to have a personal foul in the span of
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a month before you stop playing on special teams? Like
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it feels like it feels like Bo Atkinson should have
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won like the secret prize at this point. Like, you know,
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like dog owners know this. If your dog gets sprayed
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by a skunk and then doesn't learn the lesson and
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gets sprayed by a skunk again, they say like, at
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some point you got to recognize the dog's just not
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going to learn the lesson. Like the dog has not connected,
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you know, black animal with a white stripe with this
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thing is, you know, I should not mess with this. Like,
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it feels like right about your third personal foul. Like
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you just, might not be learning. The lesson might not
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just be sinking in at this point. And that was
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the end of a really stupid play that, I mean,
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a really stupid sequence that started with it's fourth and five.
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And then they had a, was that a personal, was
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that a false start? It was fourth and four at
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the plus 37. And then they have a false start
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and then they have the punt and then the gunners
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overrun the punt and And then, so you give up
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a big return and then you tack on 15 at
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the end of that, you netted like negative 27 yards
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on that play. And it's like just the absolute icing
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on the stupid cake, just incredible. And it, and like,
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what are you getting here? That's worth three personal foul calls.
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Like you're, you're keeping young guys off the field because
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you don't trust them. Like, why do you trust him
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at this point? Like, I just, I don't understand that.
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Yeah.
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And, what would Kari Wilder do in this situation compared
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to a fifth year guy? And I'm not trying to
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start to Kari Wilder stuff up, but that, that play, that,
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that punt play, Dominic Kelly is pushed in the back
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right there. And he's overrunning it anyway. And maybe this
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is a judgment call on the ref where it's like, well,
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he's out of the play. We've seen plenty of blocking
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blocks in the back called on guys who are well
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out of the play, but, he's not very far from
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the returner and it gets pushed. But again, he should
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be much closer to the returner. And then Jermaine Matthews
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is just way out of the picture. I believe that
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was the last time those two guys were the gunners.
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The rest of the game, it was with Jalen McClain
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and Kyle Parker and maybe somebody else in there. But
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that whole thing was a mess. And the special teams,
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that was an issue. How do you get a delay
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of game on a punt? When you're not trying to.
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You're not going for it. This is at your own
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20-yard line. What takes so long to get a punt
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out there and to get those guys lined up? And
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you get a delay of game when, with your punting game,
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you can't afford any extra yards, especially towards the end
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of the game. I don't understand that. I'm sure you
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could probably go on more and more and more about
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the special teams. We also do need to talk about
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the defense.
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Before we get off the special teams, real quickly, Connor Hawkins,
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four for four on field goals. Like, if Connor Hawkins
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had missed one of those four field goals, that would
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have been all you heard about is Ohio State's special teams.
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Their kickers always miss field.
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Goals in games they lose and yada, yada, yada. And,
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you know, you look around college football, it's like, boy, howdy,
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lots of other kickers seem.
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To be missing field goals in big moments.
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Yeah.
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Connor Hawkins going four for four. Should you need four
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field goals in a game?
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No, you should not.
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But that's the offense's problem, not Connor Hawkins' problem.
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He did his job.
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So since that's always the first thing everyone complains about,
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we need to mention that when he does a.
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Very good job.
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Although one of those was real close inside the left upright.
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I didn't realize that watching from the field, but oh boy,
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that was, it was good. Cause if it hits the
481
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upright and it bounces back, everyone goes, he missed it.
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And that, and all you care about it. It wasn't, he,
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he just barely missed it. It was, he missed it.
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So he made it, but who boy, that was a little.
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Tight down the middle in the press box or in
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the box score. Miles Lockhart gets penalized for holding on,
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on a punt return or punt coverage or something earlier
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in the game. He's talking trash to somebody on a
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special teams thing. And it's like, you might want to just,
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just make some plays, just do the easy things. And
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I know Miles Lockhart wants to make plays or whatever, but,
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but there is a little bit of it that looks like,
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00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:25.759
like what's Luke Fahey doing out there talking trash on
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a punt, you know, because they wear the same number.
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That's why 13. But so there's some thoughts on the
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special teams. I know we can probably do an entire
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00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:37.089
show on the special teams, but not, not now.
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Not, not now.
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All right.
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I will start the defense and I'll start with Earl
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Little because Earl Little had an eventful game and, Ryan
502
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Day in the post-game press conference talked about him trying
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to peanut punch on the long pass to the tight
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end where the entire Ohio State defense ended up on
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an old-school Sports Illustrated poster and not in the featured role.
506
00:25:01.910 --> 00:25:03.450
You want to get him down to the ground, sure,
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but he also, earlier in the game, Earl Little also
508
00:25:06.589 --> 00:25:10.609
did force a fumble and they recovered it. That's one
509
00:25:10.630 --> 00:25:15.119
where you kind of have to take the good with
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00:25:15.140 --> 00:25:17.539
the bad. And yeah, the outcome there on that long
511
00:25:17.579 --> 00:25:19.859
pass was obviously not a good one, but you know,
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if you're going to be going to force turnovers, like
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Dominic Kelly was also there. So that was not like
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Earl little is by himself. There was another guy who
515
00:25:27.009 --> 00:25:29.450
was there. So I, you know, I, I know Dave
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00:25:29.490 --> 00:25:31.329
brought that up as something he didn't think he was doing,
517
00:25:31.470 --> 00:25:34.230
taking the right approach there. But I thought like, I
518
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get it. Like, I understand there's another guy there who's
519
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:39.799
got his legs. So that's not a terrible time to
520
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punch it out. It just, you know, That's a little
521
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:44.380
bit of a tip your hat play, which, you know,
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if you, if you hurdle one safety and break a
523
00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:49.539
tackle from a corner and hang on to the football
524
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and break a tackle from another safety, like you kind of,
525
00:25:52.299 --> 00:25:53.660
you kind of just sort of have to tip your
526
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hat there.
527
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And anytime you see one of those punches where it's like,
528
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Oh my God, he punched it out without making a tackle.
529
00:26:00.130 --> 00:26:02.609
And I saw a rain Biles did that against Ohio
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state where it's like, that's great. It's a great play
531
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when it works. Congratulations. When it doesn't work, it's like,
532
00:26:11.549 --> 00:26:14.970
look at this. Make the tackle. You've cost us whatever.
533
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But if you're going to coach it and you're going
534
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to teach it, then you have to accept it. Then
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they'll tell you, well, situational awareness, you can't do it
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00:26:23.980 --> 00:26:25.640
in this situation, you can't do it in that situation.
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But the focus on wanting more turnovers, if that's been
538
00:26:30.619 --> 00:26:37.059
a focus, you can't fault a player necessarily for trying
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to do something that he's been asked to do and
540
00:26:38.900 --> 00:26:40.460
coached to do and told this is a good thing
541
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to do, but your situational awareness needs to be better.
542
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It's like, okay, I'll remember that last time when I,
543
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you know, the bullets are flying and I'm out here.
544
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Thank you very much.
545
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Well, and in terms of like guys whose situational awareness
546
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needed to be better, like there was a whole lot
547
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of situational awareness that was not great from a whole
548
00:26:57.859 --> 00:27:00.440
lot of guys on all three units on Saturday. I
549
00:27:00.460 --> 00:27:03.180
think Earl Little is pretty far down the list of, uh,
550
00:27:03.630 --> 00:27:06.009
situational awareness failures during that course.
551
00:27:05.829 --> 00:27:09.289
Of that game yeah the coordinators have some situational situational
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awareness that could be improved as well we spent some
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time talking about the the arthur smith side of things
554
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with the tight ends um in this one ohio state
555
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.680
was schemed up on from the first two snaps the
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first snap you had uh the tight end motion out
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and he's being defended by jermaine matthews and inside with
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00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:37.190
either um maybe Caden Dixon-Wyatt or Mosley. It's Simeon Caldwell.
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And it's like, well, this is exactly not what Ohio
560
00:27:39.859 --> 00:27:44.500
State wants. And Jaden Mayava looked that way right away,
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and there wasn't anything there, and he went over the
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middle and found something else. And then the next play
563
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is the touchdown where they again attack the slot, attack
564
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Simeon Caldwell. He went outside to play one inside. Jalen
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McClain got blocked up, and this was not a good
566
00:27:59.230 --> 00:28:02.440
game for Jalen McClain either. And he, this was not
567
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the only play that he could have made that he didn't.
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So not a good day from the Ohio state secondary
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in that way. And overall, like those are just a
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couple of the first initial plays where just, and these were,
571
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this is wasn't even alignment issues in terms of they're
572
00:28:22.309 --> 00:28:25.279
not getting lined up. That's a different problem. Also, this was,
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these are guys where apparently they're supposed to be and
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00:28:28.460 --> 00:28:31.960
they're in bad situations. And, and, USC did a great
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00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.539
job of taking advantage of it. Yeah.
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And you know, that Lincoln Riley for, you know, say
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what you will about him and Lord knows that I
578
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.440
have over the years, but he can scheme guys open
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on offense and he can, he knows how to manipulate
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your defense in certain ways. And then, you know, you're
581
00:28:47.619 --> 00:28:50.269
going to, I think Matt Patricia continues to do a
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00:28:50.329 --> 00:28:52.589
very good job on the whole with the Ohio state defense,
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but you're going to, you're going to get got sometimes
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by a good offensive coordinator and they got got a
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few times.
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It wasn't, you know, he, when they got, got, they got,
587
00:29:00.309 --> 00:29:01.690
got real big, you know, a.
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70 yarder and a 69 yarder outside of that, you know,
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00:29:04.869 --> 00:29:07.730
Ohio state won a huge chunk of that game, but
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you only need to give up a few big plays
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00:29:10.410 --> 00:29:14.430
those two. And then the run on a third and 18,
592
00:29:14.430 --> 00:29:16.769
where it just looked like Ohio state was the defense
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00:29:16.809 --> 00:29:17.690
wasn't lined up.
594
00:29:17.809 --> 00:29:19.509
Right. They just were not set.
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It seemed like, and then you give up a 19
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00:29:22.710 --> 00:29:25.390
yard run on third and 18. It's like, how does
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00:29:25.430 --> 00:29:29.410
that happen? But it was just kind of miscommunication. And,
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00:29:29.430 --> 00:29:31.779
you know, that's one of those times where if you
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00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.440
call a timeout there, the head coach is going, why
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are you calling a timeout on third and 18? Like
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00:29:36.700 --> 00:29:38.750
how hard is it to defend third and 18? But
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00:29:38.789 --> 00:29:41.319
then you get up a first down and it's like, well,
603
00:29:41.339 --> 00:29:43.339
why didn't they call a timeout on a third and 18?
604
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You can't give up that.
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Yeah.
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And there were, you know, tempo was an issue for
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00:29:47.630 --> 00:29:51.009
the Ohio state defense in this game. USC got them
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with that one a few times. And what were you
609
00:29:56.150 --> 00:29:59.309
saying before the, before the, um, that third down run,
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because there's also a point I wanted to make there,
611
00:30:00.950 --> 00:30:01.809
which was fantastic.
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The big plays, the long plays.
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And the depth of a target, basically, I think the only,
614
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:10.380
the longest pass that I have a three was 15
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yards downfield, which ended up being the seven, 70 yarder
616
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:16.480
to Bowman. Like he was not throwing downfield. It was
617
00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:19.519
all just quick stuff and short stuff and, and just enough.
618
00:30:19.779 --> 00:30:22.849
And that was their offense. And when Ohio state got
619
00:30:22.910 --> 00:30:24.930
after him, that offense kind of went out the window.
620
00:30:25.430 --> 00:30:28.240
whether that was showing five and bringing four, bringing a
621
00:30:28.299 --> 00:30:31.400
different four, being at Riley Pettyjohn or whomever, like that
622
00:30:31.460 --> 00:30:35.839
created issues. And they just did not create enough issues,
623
00:30:35.900 --> 00:30:39.819
but also like, what exactly did USC do that was
624
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.819
working other than the big plays? So it's like, well,
625
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:46.720
why do I need to be more aggressive when 95%
626
00:30:46.940 --> 00:30:50.099
of this defense is working? And so it's like, I
627
00:30:50.180 --> 00:30:54.890
get that. I, But also when you do create some pressure,
628
00:30:55.289 --> 00:30:58.670
Jermaine Matthews had an interception, which was not an interception.
629
00:30:59.329 --> 00:31:03.880
The TV people, and kudos to the USC press stadium
630
00:31:03.970 --> 00:31:06.880
for this, but like they're talking on TV, like they
631
00:31:06.900 --> 00:31:08.859
didn't have a good view to overturn it. So how
632
00:31:08.900 --> 00:31:13.359
could it be overturned? USC on their scoreboard, all game long,
633
00:31:13.460 --> 00:31:16.539
they were showing all of the controversial replays and they
634
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:18.960
were doing Zooms. They were doing some Zapruder style stuff
635
00:31:18.980 --> 00:31:21.289
going up in here and looking at So you could
636
00:31:21.349 --> 00:31:25.380
see Jermaine Matthews' foot out of bounds via the scoreboard screen.
637
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:28.180
So I'm assuming the Big Ten had that as well.
638
00:31:28.779 --> 00:31:31.720
But I just wanted to mention that. I love stadiums
639
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.259
that will get into the muck. Ohio Stadium doesn't get
640
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:36.680
into the muck. I respect the stadiums that will be like,
641
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.529
this is crap. Look at this. Hey, everybody, look at this.
642
00:31:40.500 --> 00:31:41.779
I will correct you on one thing.
643
00:31:41.859 --> 00:31:44.339
They were very good about showing the replays when the
644
00:31:44.380 --> 00:31:46.710
replay showed what they wanted to show. Because there was
645
00:31:47.049 --> 00:31:50.670
the one interception early by the USC guy. They didn't
646
00:31:50.690 --> 00:31:53.029
show the replay. And I was like, I bet I
647
00:31:53.069 --> 00:31:54.950
know what this means. And then the call got overturned
648
00:31:54.970 --> 00:31:57.819
because he was out of bounds. And I was like, uh-huh, yeah, okay.
649
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.390
I see what we're doing here. And like, it's a home,
650
00:32:01.509 --> 00:32:03.509
it's a home stadium. Like I get it by all
651
00:32:03.529 --> 00:32:05.990
means do that. But yeah, they would, you could, you
652
00:32:06.019 --> 00:32:08.359
could tell, uh, when they showed it, you knew what
653
00:32:08.380 --> 00:32:09.599
that meant. When they didn't show it.
654
00:32:09.579 --> 00:32:10.559
You knew what that meant.
655
00:32:10.700 --> 00:32:13.740
And so, yeah, that was, uh, that was certainly, uh,
656
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:15.119
certainly a fun one.
657
00:32:15.859 --> 00:32:17.660
Uh, if I'm like that.
658
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:19.980
Was, I think there were three plays that were called
659
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.670
interceptions on the field that were ended up over getting
660
00:32:22.809 --> 00:32:25.769
overturned by someone's heat, you know, Oh, their heel was out. Oh,
661
00:32:25.809 --> 00:32:28.460
just the side of their foot was out. Like, So
662
00:32:28.579 --> 00:32:33.509
three almost interceptions, zero interceptions in the game. One more
663
00:32:33.529 --> 00:32:36.130
thing I wanted to mention, Christian Allegro, he has been
664
00:32:36.269 --> 00:32:39.289
really good on defense. He's been very active in the
665
00:32:39.329 --> 00:32:41.390
backfield on run plays. He had a TFL on the
666
00:32:41.430 --> 00:32:45.019
second drive. On the first drive, I think it might
667
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.180
have been the first play of the game, it was
668
00:32:47.220 --> 00:32:50.019
an RPO, and he was in the backfield immediately and
669
00:32:50.180 --> 00:32:52.599
drilled the running back, which is you know, he didn't
670
00:32:52.619 --> 00:32:54.539
have a ball, so it doesn't count for anything, but
671
00:32:54.579 --> 00:32:56.900
he was very, very active. And Riley Pettyjohn felt like
672
00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:59.130
he'd had pretty good game as well. He had a
673
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TFL on a speed option at one point. He had
674
00:33:01.250 --> 00:33:03.109
a PBU when he was out in coverage at one
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00:33:03.150 --> 00:33:05.069
point on a tight end. Like it felt like those guys,
676
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you know, again, not perfect. No one on the Ohio
677
00:33:08.009 --> 00:33:10.210
state defense had a phenomenal day, but it felt like
678
00:33:10.230 --> 00:33:12.569
the linebackers, like you had a couple of linebackers who
679
00:33:12.589 --> 00:33:15.150
I thought played reasonably well throughout the course.
680
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Of the game. Yeah. Christian Allegro shows up and, um,
681
00:33:19.500 --> 00:33:23.220
one other guy that I wanted to mention was Edric Houston.
682
00:33:24.009 --> 00:33:26.250
And you look at the numbers, he had four tackles,
683
00:33:26.269 --> 00:33:27.849
a half attack of loss, but you see in this game,
684
00:33:27.890 --> 00:33:31.990
he's running everywhere. He's chasing plays down. He's smashing into
685
00:33:32.029 --> 00:33:38.000
people and he's making his impact felt. And then you,
686
00:33:38.390 --> 00:33:42.380
you know, it's like, this is the stats aren't necessarily there,
687
00:33:42.410 --> 00:33:44.779
but he's giving the effort that Ryan day and Larry
688
00:33:44.819 --> 00:33:48.420
Johnson have talked about for a while now. And so, um,
689
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That was very, very impactful in his own ways. But again,
690
00:33:53.250 --> 00:33:57.569
30 points, but it's not because everybody played poorly. There
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00:33:57.589 --> 00:34:03.450
were some good efforts out there. Did James Smith even
692
00:34:03.509 --> 00:34:06.450
play in this game? I'm looking right now, and he's
693
00:34:06.509 --> 00:34:16.000
not listed anywhere. He's not even listed in the participation report.
694
00:34:16.369 --> 00:34:18.250
So I guess that makes me feel better because I'm like,
695
00:34:18.309 --> 00:34:21.289
where is James Smith in all of this? And okay,
696
00:34:21.610 --> 00:34:26.250
he didn't play. Great job. So that excuses him, at least.
697
00:34:26.369 --> 00:34:29.699
But kudos to Andrew Kustin for running around. Will Smith
698
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:31.139
had a really nice play that did not become a
699
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.219
tackle for loss that should have. John Walker got some pressure.
700
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So the defensive tackles continue to play well enough. And
701
00:34:41.139 --> 00:34:46.099
it's not like USC ran all over them. But overall,
702
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:49.679
I think those are my main thoughts on the defense.
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Tempo was an issue being spread out as an issue.
704
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And I think you're going to see more of that
705
00:34:54.570 --> 00:34:55.389
from Oregon this week.
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Yeah. I think, I think this is one of the
707
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things where Oregon is going to learn lots of lessons
708
00:35:00.309 --> 00:35:03.590
from what, what USC did. So Ohio state has a
709
00:35:03.610 --> 00:35:05.400
week to figure out, you know, figure out solutions to
710
00:35:05.460 --> 00:35:06.079
some of that stuff.
711
00:35:06.139 --> 00:35:07.159
Cause you're going to see it again.
712
00:35:07.179 --> 00:35:08.570
You're not going to, it's not going to be, Oh,
713
00:35:08.579 --> 00:35:09.119
thank goodness.
714
00:35:09.940 --> 00:35:12.260
We're not going to see anything. You know, thank goodness.
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We don't have to see that again. It's like, well, I,
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bad news.
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Oregon has the game film. So, uh, we'll see what they,
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and then even worse news. We'll see what Chip Kelly
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dreams up for two weeks from now. Cause boy, that, uh, whatever, whatever, uh,
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you saw from Lincoln Riley, Chip Kelly is going to
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do it from, uh, you know, the annexation, he's going
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to run the annexation of Puerto Rico out of some
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of those formations. So yeah, it'll be, uh, it'll be
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an interesting couple of weeks. I'm sure Matt Patricia is
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going to, uh, going to be busy this week.
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Yeah. Everybody better be busy this week. And, uh, I'm
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not saying just run. It's time for war. for the
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next month, but, uh, have some, some sort of motivation
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and emotion going and getting everybody ready to go. And that,
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that includes the coaches themselves. I think everybody, nobody should
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be satisfied with the output that they've had, including Tom,
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you anyway, that'll do it for here for me. I'm
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not flubbing over my words. I'm doing just fine. Hit
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that thumbs up, subscribe to the channel, leave us some comments.
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What'd you guys think of this game? Um, Hey, you
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know what? Go ahead and let us know what you
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thought of this game. That's fine. We'll check those out. And,
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of course, we are still, if you believe that, we
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are still talking about this over at the BuckeyeInsiders.com message
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board where we're talking it out. We're talking other things
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out there as well, and we would love to see
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you there hanging out with us. So that will do
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it from here. Thank you all for tuning in, and
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we'll talk to you all later.
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Well, she threw away the motel key I wish it.
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Never meant.
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We could steal a car and leave tonight.
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Make you cry now No This time Can what I
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feel be real?
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Hello everybody, welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony Gerdeman,
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here as always with Tom Orton. How's it going?
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Tony, I'm used to you power-pausing me. You power-paused yourself
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at the start of this show. That was impressive. I
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was all ready for you to start and I could
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see you in your head going, how do I start
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the show? I've started 2,000 of these over the years,
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but the words, how do they go?
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They just, sometimes they just You know, like Eminem, it
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just comes to you and you just flow. That's a
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lot of what I do here.
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Welcome to Mom's Spaghetti. I'm Tony Gertman.
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Hello, everybody. We are here. Speaking of Mom's Spaghetti, we're
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here to recap Ohio State's 30-18 loss that looked a little, anyway,
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I won't get too graphic, but did not go well.
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And Tom and I rewatched it via the television, not
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at the same time, not together, but to get a
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better look at what we thought we saw, what we
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didn't see, and maybe confirm some things and find some
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other things out. And so, Tom, I will go ahead
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and leave this first part up to you. What's something
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that you learned from watching this on TV?
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Well, first of all, I will say I enjoyed it
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better the second time because I was not getting rained
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on the whole time the second time through, so already
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a step in the right direction. I'm going to start— I
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know there's been a lot of bad vibes— But I'm
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going to start with a positive, which is Luke Fahey,
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he had some really nice balls. There were plenty of
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times when, you know, if his feet aren't set, the
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ball tends to sail on him a little bit. But
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there were some really nice balls as well. Like the
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opening drive that shot down the hash marks to Philip Bell,
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that was a really nice ball. There was another one
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to Jeremiah Smith on the second drive. And these are
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like intermediate range throws where, you know, it's not, way downfield.
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Some of the deep stuff, it felt like he was
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a little off on, but the intermediate range stuff, if
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you can kind of live in that 15-ish yards downfield,
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you know, short and intermediate range, you can do a
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lot in those areas. And it felt like he was,
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you know, he wasn't perfect there, but he had some
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really nice balls, some into somewhat tight windows. So, you know,
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I think on a night where there's lots, I think,
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for Ohio State fans to be annoyed about, I think
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that was a promising sign on a night when the
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weather was not great. You're on the road. There's a
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lot that the game did not start off well. You're
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playing from behind the whole game. I thought that was
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one thing that I looked at and thought there's something
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there that they can work with.
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Yeah, and that's one of my first thoughts as well
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in terms of there was definitely stuff that you can
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work on. A lot of building blocks. He looks fine.
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He looks comfortable. I think what My main takeaway was
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that he didn't do anything to lose the game. He
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also didn't do anything to win the game, which is
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probably fine for a freshman quarterback. There were plays that
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he did not make. There were reads that he did
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not make. But he was not the reason that Ohio
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State lost. He's not giving up 30 points. Would this
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game have been different with Julian saying? It certainly would
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have been different. Do I know that Ohio State wins? No,
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I don't know that. But some of the reads, some
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of the throws, some of the inaccuracies. I think he
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needs to let it rip more. A lot of these
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throws had maybe too much touch, like the throw to
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Bo Jackson in the red zone on the left side,
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where Bo Jackson is open for a touchdown if he
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just lets it rip. But instead he throws a lollipop
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and it's overthrown. And most of his incompletions were overthrown.
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So he needs to get the footballs down a little bit.
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But they're coming from a lower trajectory, so you have
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to throw them higher and it's all It's geometry and
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all of that. But watching this, I just felt like
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not all of the RPL reads were right. And that's
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assuming some were right and some were wrong. Or some
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of the gives were actually reads and not just straight gives.
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But yeah, I'm not looking at Luke Fahey and saying, well,
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Ohio State can't win with this guy. They can't win
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their next four or five games with this guy. I
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don't think that's true at all. I think he can
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go out there and win every single one of them.
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The other thing that I'm going to take away from
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this game is it can't just be him and it's
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got to be others as well. And, you know, this
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is not the most talented Ohio state team of the
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Ryan day era. Maybe it's the, I don't want to
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say least because that's a subjective, you know, there's, and
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the 2020 team, I'd say maybe defensively less talented, but
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The guys that you have have to do more, and
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I don't know how many of those guys actually did
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more in this game to help up the freshman quarterback.
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I guess we can start with the offensive line on
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that one because the penalties, the false starts, the couple
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of false starts in there, they still ran the ball
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pretty well, pretty darn well, well enough. And I guess
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that's why I think you watch this again, you're confused
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a little bit more because there are mistakes, but they're
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moving the ball. But again, then you get into the
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red zone and there's the mistakes are just magnified down there.
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And they had a mistake nearly every single time in
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the red zone. And that's not necessarily Luke. That's not
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Luke Fahey's fault because whether it's, well, the cadence is different.
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The voice is different. Yeah. You know, Jake Cook comes
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in on what down on the goal line and he,
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Has a false start. Well, he moves and then Nate
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Roberts sees him and moves. And suddenly it's Nate Roberts'
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false start. And that's the one play where they take
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Jeremiah Smith out and bring in that package. But I'm
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fine with Luke Fahey. This game will help him get
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better for the next and make some of those better reads.
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Everybody else needs to get better as well.
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Yeah, I think Luke Fahey, there is a reasonable expectation
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that he's going to materially improve from game one to
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game two and game two to game three. Like you
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should see significant improvement from him over the course of
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the next few games. If you don't, that might tell
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you something about the long-term projectability there, but you would
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sort of assume, you know, when does a college football
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team get better? Like the biggest jump, it's from game
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one to game two. So you would assume first time starter,
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you're going to see improvement now that you got some
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game film to teach off of. So That's an area
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to certainly be, I think, encouraged about. But yeah, the
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offensive line has been, it feels like they've been okay,
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okay to pretty good in terms of the run game.
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But the pass pro just from the tackles has not
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been great all season. The interior of the line has
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struggled with picking up some twists and stunts at times.
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It's just the pass pro has not been great. I
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don't know that they've adjusted the passing game to match
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that where you're still, it still feels like, you know, the,
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the Arthur Smith offense, they want to have, you know,
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you want to run the ball, you want to have
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hard play action off of there and you want to
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take your deep shots. Well, I don't know that you
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can give your quarterback enough time to sit back in
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the pocket and let the receivers run 40 yards downfield
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like that. That feels like you got to kind of
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look at your line and go, well, they're not doing
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their job. Like, well, you got to figure, you know,
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you got who you got at this point. So you
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got to figure out a way around that. And they,
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you know, with Austin Searveld being back now, we will
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see what they do on the offensive line. Cause Austin
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Searveld was playing left tackle on that last drive. So,
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you know, is that an indication that maybe Austin Searveld
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is going back to left tackle and Phillip Daniels will
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be at right tackle. We'll see what they look like
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this week against Oregon state or against Oregon. But it is,
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you know, that's, that's certainly a possibility. They, As weird
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as it is to say two-thirds of the way through
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the regular season, they may still sort of be figuring
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out what their best five is on the offensive line
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because they've had guys missing enough this season that you
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haven't had a ton of continuity up there from week
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to week to really be able to know for sure.
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Well, and the hard play action, the long play action
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to throw deep, right now Luke Fahey's not accurate enough
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deep that that's a winning play at this point. I
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think we've seen that. I'm not saying don't do it.
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I'm saying make sure that he's okay doing that or
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accurate enough doing that, I'd say, firsthand. Where he's better
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has been the intermediate downfield stuff. He was good at that.
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So you don't need all day to do those. You
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don't need to turn your back or anything like that
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to the defense and pull off these hard fakes for that. But, yeah,
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I think there were throws there to be made. He
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made some of them. Not everybody made the catches that
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were there for them. Either. That's why it's just everybody
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needs to help out a little bit more for those guys.
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The running game. Bo Jackson is weird to me because
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this season he seems to be he seems to play
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harder and better when he sees somebody, a teammate playing
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hard and better. Jacoby Jackson did that. And then he
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would start running harder. And then Isaiah West did it
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in this game. Then he's running like, and then Bill
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Jackson comes out and runs like a guy possessed. And
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it's almost like he has to taste his own blood,
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but the blood is only there after being punched in
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the mouth by a teammate showing him like, this is
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how you run hard. And then he goes and does it.
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And he, everybody wants to get rid of Bo Jackson
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or everybody's, you know, disappointed or frustrated. He's got 120
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yards rushing or whatever. And he's probably on pace for
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another thousand yard season. But there are that first half.
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You're like, Isaiah West is running the ball. Well, why
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do you, why do you just keep continuing to go
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back to Bo Jackson's three or four yards? And I'm
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guessing Carlos Lockton will tell you, well, did you see
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what happened in the second half? That's why. And it's like,
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I get that, but Isaiah West is doing well in
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the first half. why not let them continue to do
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well in the first half? And, you know, I don't
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know if we've ever necessarily agreed with a quarter with
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a running back rotation that we've seen at Ohio state
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outside of the one with Travion Henderson and Quinch on Judkins.
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And probably because that led to a national championship or
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was part of one. And that's why, you know, it
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was okay. This one right now is a little bit
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frustrating at times trying to just in terms of like
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figuring it out, like why, why Bo Jackson now? And,
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and like, you throw the ball to Isaiah West and
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the ball gets popped up and it gets intercepted and
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Carlos Lachlan will probably be like, you know, that's why.
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But also Bo Jackson dropped one that was going to
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be a nice big hit. So I don't know. Maybe
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there are no good answers right now. That's why everybody's frustrated.
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Well, I just, I don't think they have a back
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this year that's as good as either of the backs
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they had in 2024, which that's, that's why everyone was
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okay with the running back rotation in 2024. Cause it
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was two good backs who play well and run hard and,
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can catch the ball and pick up blitzes and do
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all the stuff to get, you know, they kind of
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check all the boxes. So then when either of them
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are in there, it's like, wow, look at the running back.
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They're doing all the things.
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And I don't know that they have anyone that's like
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really doing that this year. Jacoby Jackson was probably the
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guy who was the most complete pack for them. And
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then of course got his foot hurt in the, at
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the end of the Maryland game and has been out
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since then. So, you know, I, I, I felt the
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same thing. I had the same conversation with one of
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the photographers on the sideline during the game. It was, boy,
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I don't know why they're putting Bo Jackson back in there.
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And then immediately Bo Jackson has a 28-yard gain. It's like, well,
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all right, I guess so. But why does it take
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Bo Jackson seeing someone else, feeling like someone else is
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going to take his job to do that? He has
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had a weird season. Isaiah West has had kind of
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a weird season. It's just been kind of a weird
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season in the running back room. But at the same time,
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they ran for 200 yards, which if you can do
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that every week, great. You're going to win a whole
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lot of football. It takes a lot to lose a
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football game when you run for 200 yards and they
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did all of those things. All right. We're going to
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talk tight ends here and I'm going to start positive.
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It will not stay positive, but I'm going to start
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positive and say Mason Williams continues to be really good
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in the passing game. It feels like they hit him
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for at least twice a game for a nice gain.
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He is dragging tacklers. He's breaking tacklers. He's making guys miss.
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I would like to.
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See a couple more throws to Mason Williams every game. Like,
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you know, I don't need 12, but, like give me
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two more Mason Williams targets a game and give me
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a target or two to Nate Roberts.
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Like fine.
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A hundred percent on board with all that. I think that's,
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I think that's absolutely fine. I don't know that I
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need to see any other tight ends. Like I think,
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I think I'm really good with those two tight ends
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and you want to put Jake cook in and you
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want to use 12 personnel, then you can take one
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of them off the field and that's fine. But everyone else, like,
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I don't know. I don't know what you're getting here
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out of, out of these guys. And I certainly don't
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understand the, the fascination with the 14 personnel on.
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The goal line.
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It's first and goal at the one, and you line
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up in shotgun because reasons, and you just had a
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successful quarterback sneak, and so you line up in shotgun,
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and you don't get in, and then it's like, okay,
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by God, that's 14 personnel's music, and Jeremiah Smith goes
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off the field.
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Why? I don't know.
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It's 14 personnel time. The card says moops, so it's
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time for 14 personnel, and what happens?
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False start.
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Why are you taking the best player in college football
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off the field in favor of like the 45th best
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player on your team in the highest leverage situation? Like
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it just, it doesn't make sense. Like it does not
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make sense. And they keep doing it. And the last
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time Ryan Day was asked about it, he said, you know,
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he gave the answer from the results perspective, which is, well,
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because it didn't work. I know everyone thinks it wasn't
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the right idea. It's like, well, but it didn't work
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like three times in a row.
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It didn't work. Like, Nope. Got to just do it.
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We got to do it harder this time. Like, I
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don't think that's the answer here. Like it just, it
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just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And the,
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the tight end room, like the talent in there, there's
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not bad talent in there.
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Again, Mason Williams. I like, I like him. I think
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there's a lot of talent.
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I think you, you're, you're thrown to Nate Roberts.
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Absolutely.
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Like, I don't know that I'd go to Nate Roberts,
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like three plays in the end zone. Like they did
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right at the end of the game. Like I'd think
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about someone else, but you know, I don't, I don't
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mind seeing those tight ends out there.
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Like use 12 personnel. I get it.
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That's like where football is going.
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Totally fine. But, I just I.
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Don't understand the fascination with more than 12 personnel like
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over and over and over again. When you look at
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the results and it's like, what are you getting out
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of this?
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Well, and if you look at the Ohio State wide receivers,
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they don't go as if they were to go as
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deep as the tight ends. You know, Jaden Ricketts, true freshman,
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would be playing at this point and Des Jones would
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be playing. but they're not because there's a certain level
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that you have to be at. And that's including, that's
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dealing with injuries that they've had now with Brandon Ennis
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and Brock Boyd. It's not like they're suddenly expanding things
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beyond what they should. Whereas, you know, in this one,
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and even I'll say Mason Williams, there's a third and
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three and he's looking over to see, I don't know
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if it's a silent counter or whatever, and he's looking
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over and the ball gets snapped as he's looking back,
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whatever Luke Wafle runs by him and tackles, I think
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Isaiah West in the backfield. So then it's fourth and four.
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That's the fourth and four they're going for, but then
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there's a false start that makes it fourth and nine,
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and then they punt. So it's just errors on top
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of errors on one hand. But then there's another play
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later in the game, Brody Lennon's in, which the amazing
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thing is he doesn't play. Max LeBlanc is out. So
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now it's like, okay, well, now he's the fifth tight end,
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so he has to play. It's like, well, if he's
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not able to play normally, then why is he suddenly
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game ready when somebody else is hurt, when you still
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have three or four other guys that you play in
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front of him? And so, you know, I don't know
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if it's, these are all just so, you know, compartmentalized
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in terms of, well, you do this and you are the,
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you are the second, the second team guy that does this.
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And Max LeBlanc is the first team guy who is
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also the fourth team tight end, perhaps like I'm with you.
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you don't need all of them. And you've got two,
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I call Nate Roberts a veteran. Now, like you've got
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two veteran tight ends and Nate Roberts and Mason waves,
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two very versatile guys. They can, they both played fullback
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at Ohio state. They've both been online tight ends, like
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inline tight ends. They can go ahead and be your guys. Now,
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maybe you want a different type, like a, you know,
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a max Claire or something. Well, Nate Roberts can do
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that as well. And, you know, then also Jake cook
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has a false start on the, on the goal line.
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And it's like, where is this work? where is this
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abundance of tight end talent working for you? And when
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you look at these red zone struggles, it's, it's not
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working for you. And we talked to last week or
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two weeks ago, Ryan day saying, you know, we, we
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gotta be able to punch it in down there.
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No, you don't.
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You need to be able to score. You don't have
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to punch anything. Yeah. You know, um, do you ever watch, uh,
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of course you do like Steven Seagal, you know, his
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mode of martial arts is about using other people's momentum
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against them. It's not, it's not about fist fighting. It's
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about using the attack against them. And it's just all
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this hand stuff. And it's very, trust me, it's very useful.
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What isn't necessarily useful is we've got to punch it
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in there. And if you can't punch, then you're just
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running into a wall. And nobody's ever like, I've got
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to walk through that wall. I've got to walk through
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that wall. And there's stairs. There's a ladder. The wall
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is only this wide. you could go around the wall.
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You could try that. You could try other things. But
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this red zone stuff and this, you know, the tight ends.
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And frankly, it's not just the red zone. But when
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they're just like at the 40 and all of a
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sudden here come three tight ends, it's like.
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At least on this one, when they did that and
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Jeremiah's the only receiver out there and he's running a
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deep route, it looked like it was setting up a
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back shoulder fade to Nate Roberts. But again... The throw
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wasn't there or the route wasn't there. That's a rare
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one where you're asking a young quarterback to make a
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tough throw. You're asking a tight end. I don't know
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how many back shoulder fades Nate Roberts has run at
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Ohio State. I don't imagine it's a lot. It would
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have been a nice game. It was a nice design.
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But you could probably also do that with your wide receivers.
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Yeah. You know, there's plenty of talent in the wide
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receiver room, even with Brandon Ennis out. Like, you know,
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Devin McEwen was open several times. He didn't, you know,
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he got missed a couple times.
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Chris Henry Jr.
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Had a couple catches, had another one that he dropped,
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but at this point in the red zone, like inside
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the five, I'd put Jeremiah Smith on one side of
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the field and someone else on the other side of
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the field, and you don't have as many guys you know,
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between the tackles or right there at the line. But
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everyone who's outside is going to draw at least one defender.
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So the numbers are going to work out pretty much
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the same. So, yeah, I just continue to find that
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absolutely mystifying.
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Something else that I.
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Continue to find mystifying, Tony, how many times do you
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have to have a personal foul in the span of
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a month before you stop playing on special teams? Like
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it feels like it feels like Bo Atkinson should have
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won like the secret prize at this point. Like, you know,
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like dog owners know this. If your dog gets sprayed
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by a skunk and then doesn't learn the lesson and
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gets sprayed by a skunk again, they say like, at
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some point you got to recognize the dog's just not
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going to learn the lesson. Like the dog has not connected,
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you know, black animal with a white stripe with this
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thing is, you know, I should not mess with this. Like,
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it feels like right about your third personal foul. Like
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you just, might not be learning. The lesson might not
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just be sinking in at this point. And that was
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the end of a really stupid play that, I mean,
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a really stupid sequence that started with it's fourth and five.
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And then they had a, was that a personal, was
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that a false start? It was fourth and four at
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the plus 37. And then they have a false start
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and then they have the punt and then the gunners
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overrun the punt and And then, so you give up
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a big return and then you tack on 15 at
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the end of that, you netted like negative 27 yards
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on that play. And it's like just the absolute icing
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on the stupid cake, just incredible. And it, and like,
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what are you getting here? That's worth three personal foul calls.
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Like you're, you're keeping young guys off the field because
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you don't trust them. Like, why do you trust him
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at this point? Like, I just, I don't understand that.
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Yeah.
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And, what would Kari Wilder do in this situation compared
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to a fifth year guy? And I'm not trying to
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start to Kari Wilder stuff up, but that, that play, that,
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that punt play, Dominic Kelly is pushed in the back
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right there. And he's overrunning it anyway. And maybe this
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is a judgment call on the ref where it's like, well,
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he's out of the play. We've seen plenty of blocking
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blocks in the back called on guys who are well
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out of the play, but, he's not very far from
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the returner and it gets pushed. But again, he should
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be much closer to the returner. And then Jermaine Matthews
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is just way out of the picture. I believe that
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was the last time those two guys were the gunners.
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The rest of the game, it was with Jalen McClain
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and Kyle Parker and maybe somebody else in there. But
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that whole thing was a mess. And the special teams,
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that was an issue. How do you get a delay
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of game on a punt? When you're not trying to.
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You're not going for it. This is at your own
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20-yard line. What takes so long to get a punt
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out there and to get those guys lined up? And
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you get a delay of game when, with your punting game,
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you can't afford any extra yards, especially towards the end
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of the game. I don't understand that. I'm sure you
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could probably go on more and more and more about
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the special teams. We also do need to talk about
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the defense.
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Before we get off the special teams, real quickly, Connor Hawkins,
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four for four on field goals. Like, if Connor Hawkins
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had missed one of those four field goals, that would
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have been all you heard about is Ohio State's special teams.
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Their kickers always miss field.
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Goals in games they lose and yada, yada, yada. And,
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you know, you look around college football, it's like, boy, howdy,
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lots of other kickers seem.
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To be missing field goals in big moments.
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Yeah.
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Connor Hawkins going four for four. Should you need four
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field goals in a game?
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No, you should not.
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But that's the offense's problem, not Connor Hawkins' problem.
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He did his job.
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So since that's always the first thing everyone complains about,
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we need to mention that when he does a.
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Very good job.
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Although one of those was real close inside the left upright.
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I didn't realize that watching from the field, but oh boy,
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that was, it was good. Cause if it hits the
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upright and it bounces back, everyone goes, he missed it.
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And that, and all you care about it. It wasn't, he,
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he just barely missed it. It was, he missed it.
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So he made it, but who boy, that was a little.
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Tight down the middle in the press box or in
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the box score. Miles Lockhart gets penalized for holding on,
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on a punt return or punt coverage or something earlier
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in the game. He's talking trash to somebody on a
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special teams thing. And it's like, you might want to just,
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just make some plays, just do the easy things. And
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I know Miles Lockhart wants to make plays or whatever, but,
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but there is a little bit of it that looks like,
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like what's Luke Fahey doing out there talking trash on
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a punt, you know, because they wear the same number.
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That's why 13. But so there's some thoughts on the
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special teams. I know we can probably do an entire
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show on the special teams, but not, not now.
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Not, not now.
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All right.
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I will start the defense and I'll start with Earl
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Little because Earl Little had an eventful game and, Ryan
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Day in the post-game press conference talked about him trying
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to peanut punch on the long pass to the tight
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end where the entire Ohio State defense ended up on
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an old-school Sports Illustrated poster and not in the featured role.
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You want to get him down to the ground, sure,
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but he also, earlier in the game, Earl Little also
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did force a fumble and they recovered it. That's one
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where you kind of have to take the good with
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the bad. And yeah, the outcome there on that long
511
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pass was obviously not a good one, but you know,
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if you're going to be going to force turnovers, like
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Dominic Kelly was also there. So that was not like
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Earl little is by himself. There was another guy who
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was there. So I, you know, I, I know Dave
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brought that up as something he didn't think he was doing,
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taking the right approach there. But I thought like, I
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get it. Like, I understand there's another guy there who's
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got his legs. So that's not a terrible time to
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punch it out. It just, you know, That's a little
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bit of a tip your hat play, which, you know,
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if you, if you hurdle one safety and break a
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tackle from a corner and hang on to the football
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and break a tackle from another safety, like you kind of,
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you kind of just sort of have to tip your
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hat there.
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And anytime you see one of those punches where it's like,
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Oh my God, he punched it out without making a tackle.
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And I saw a rain Biles did that against Ohio
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state where it's like, that's great. It's a great play
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when it works. Congratulations. When it doesn't work, it's like,
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look at this. Make the tackle. You've cost us whatever.
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But if you're going to coach it and you're going
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to teach it, then you have to accept it. Then
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they'll tell you, well, situational awareness, you can't do it
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in this situation, you can't do it in that situation.
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But the focus on wanting more turnovers, if that's been
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a focus, you can't fault a player necessarily for trying
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to do something that he's been asked to do and
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coached to do and told this is a good thing
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to do, but your situational awareness needs to be better.
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It's like, okay, I'll remember that last time when I,
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you know, the bullets are flying and I'm out here.
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Thank you very much.
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Well, and in terms of like guys whose situational awareness
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needed to be better, like there was a whole lot
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of situational awareness that was not great from a whole
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lot of guys on all three units on Saturday. I
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think Earl Little is pretty far down the list of, uh,
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situational awareness failures during that course.
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Of that game yeah the coordinators have some situational situational
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awareness that could be improved as well we spent some
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time talking about the the arthur smith side of things
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with the tight ends um in this one ohio state
555
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was schemed up on from the first two snaps the
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first snap you had uh the tight end motion out
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and he's being defended by jermaine matthews and inside with
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either um maybe Caden Dixon-Wyatt or Mosley. It's Simeon Caldwell.
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And it's like, well, this is exactly not what Ohio
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State wants. And Jaden Mayava looked that way right away,
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and there wasn't anything there, and he went over the
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middle and found something else. And then the next play
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is the touchdown where they again attack the slot, attack
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Simeon Caldwell. He went outside to play one inside. Jalen
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McClain got blocked up, and this was not a good
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game for Jalen McClain either. And he, this was not
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the only play that he could have made that he didn't.
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So not a good day from the Ohio state secondary
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in that way. And overall, like those are just a
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couple of the first initial plays where just, and these were,
571
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this is wasn't even alignment issues in terms of they're
572
00:28:22.309 --> 00:28:25.279
not getting lined up. That's a different problem. Also, this was,
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these are guys where apparently they're supposed to be and
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they're in bad situations. And, and, USC did a great
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job of taking advantage of it. Yeah.
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And you know, that Lincoln Riley for, you know, say
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what you will about him and Lord knows that I
578
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.440
have over the years, but he can scheme guys open
579
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on offense and he can, he knows how to manipulate
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your defense in certain ways. And then, you know, you're
581
00:28:47.619 --> 00:28:50.269
going to, I think Matt Patricia continues to do a
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very good job on the whole with the Ohio state defense,
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but you're going to, you're going to get got sometimes
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by a good offensive coordinator and they got got a
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few times.
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It wasn't, you know, he, when they got, got, they got,
587
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got real big, you know, a.
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70 yarder and a 69 yarder outside of that, you know,
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Ohio state won a huge chunk of that game, but
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you only need to give up a few big plays
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those two. And then the run on a third and 18,
592
00:29:14.430 --> 00:29:16.769
where it just looked like Ohio state was the defense
593
00:29:16.809 --> 00:29:17.690
wasn't lined up.
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Right. They just were not set.
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It seemed like, and then you give up a 19
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yard run on third and 18. It's like, how does
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00:29:25.430 --> 00:29:29.410
that happen? But it was just kind of miscommunication. And,
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you know, that's one of those times where if you
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00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.440
call a timeout there, the head coach is going, why
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are you calling a timeout on third and 18? Like
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00:29:36.700 --> 00:29:38.750
how hard is it to defend third and 18? But
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00:29:38.789 --> 00:29:41.319
then you get up a first down and it's like, well,
603
00:29:41.339 --> 00:29:43.339
why didn't they call a timeout on a third and 18?
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00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:44.180
You can't give up that.
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Yeah.
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And there were, you know, tempo was an issue for
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00:29:47.630 --> 00:29:51.009
the Ohio state defense in this game. USC got them
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00:29:51.529 --> 00:29:56.130
with that one a few times. And what were you
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00:29:56.150 --> 00:29:59.309
saying before the, before the, um, that third down run,
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because there's also a point I wanted to make there,
611
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which was fantastic.
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The big plays, the long plays.
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And the depth of a target, basically, I think the only,
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the longest pass that I have a three was 15
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yards downfield, which ended up being the seven, 70 yarder
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00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:16.480
to Bowman. Like he was not throwing downfield. It was
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00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:19.519
all just quick stuff and short stuff and, and just enough.
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And that was their offense. And when Ohio state got
619
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after him, that offense kind of went out the window.
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whether that was showing five and bringing four, bringing a
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different four, being at Riley Pettyjohn or whomever, like that
622
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created issues. And they just did not create enough issues,
623
00:30:35.900 --> 00:30:39.819
but also like, what exactly did USC do that was
624
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.819
working other than the big plays? So it's like, well,
625
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:46.720
why do I need to be more aggressive when 95%
626
00:30:46.940 --> 00:30:50.099
of this defense is working? And so it's like, I
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00:30:50.180 --> 00:30:54.890
get that. I, But also when you do create some pressure,
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00:30:55.289 --> 00:30:58.670
Jermaine Matthews had an interception, which was not an interception.
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The TV people, and kudos to the USC press stadium
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00:31:03.970 --> 00:31:06.880
for this, but like they're talking on TV, like they
631
00:31:06.900 --> 00:31:08.859
didn't have a good view to overturn it. So how
632
00:31:08.900 --> 00:31:13.359
could it be overturned? USC on their scoreboard, all game long,
633
00:31:13.460 --> 00:31:16.539
they were showing all of the controversial replays and they
634
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:18.960
were doing Zooms. They were doing some Zapruder style stuff
635
00:31:18.980 --> 00:31:21.289
going up in here and looking at So you could
636
00:31:21.349 --> 00:31:25.380
see Jermaine Matthews' foot out of bounds via the scoreboard screen.
637
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:28.180
So I'm assuming the Big Ten had that as well.
638
00:31:28.779 --> 00:31:31.720
But I just wanted to mention that. I love stadiums
639
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.259
that will get into the muck. Ohio Stadium doesn't get
640
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:36.680
into the muck. I respect the stadiums that will be like,
641
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.529
this is crap. Look at this. Hey, everybody, look at this.
642
00:31:40.500 --> 00:31:41.779
I will correct you on one thing.
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They were very good about showing the replays when the
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replay showed what they wanted to show. Because there was
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the one interception early by the USC guy. They didn't
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show the replay. And I was like, I bet I
647
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know what this means. And then the call got overturned
648
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because he was out of bounds. And I was like, uh-huh, yeah, okay.
649
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.390
I see what we're doing here. And like, it's a home,
650
00:32:01.509 --> 00:32:03.509
it's a home stadium. Like I get it by all
651
00:32:03.529 --> 00:32:05.990
means do that. But yeah, they would, you could, you
652
00:32:06.019 --> 00:32:08.359
could tell, uh, when they showed it, you knew what
653
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that meant. When they didn't show it.
654
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You knew what that meant.
655
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And so, yeah, that was, uh, that was certainly, uh,
656
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certainly a fun one.
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Uh, if I'm like that.
658
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:19.980
Was, I think there were three plays that were called
659
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.670
interceptions on the field that were ended up over getting
660
00:32:22.809 --> 00:32:25.769
overturned by someone's heat, you know, Oh, their heel was out. Oh,
661
00:32:25.809 --> 00:32:28.460
just the side of their foot was out. Like, So
662
00:32:28.579 --> 00:32:33.509
three almost interceptions, zero interceptions in the game. One more
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thing I wanted to mention, Christian Allegro, he has been
664
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really good on defense. He's been very active in the
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backfield on run plays. He had a TFL on the
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second drive. On the first drive, I think it might
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have been the first play of the game, it was
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an RPO, and he was in the backfield immediately and
669
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drilled the running back, which is you know, he didn't
670
00:32:52.619 --> 00:32:54.539
have a ball, so it doesn't count for anything, but
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he was very, very active. And Riley Pettyjohn felt like
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he'd had pretty good game as well. He had a
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TFL on a speed option at one point. He had
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a PBU when he was out in coverage at one
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point on a tight end. Like it felt like those guys,
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you know, again, not perfect. No one on the Ohio
677
00:33:08.009 --> 00:33:10.210
state defense had a phenomenal day, but it felt like
678
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the linebackers, like you had a couple of linebackers who
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I thought played reasonably well throughout the course.
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Of the game. Yeah. Christian Allegro shows up and, um,
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one other guy that I wanted to mention was Edric Houston.
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And you look at the numbers, he had four tackles,
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a half attack of loss, but you see in this game,
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he's running everywhere. He's chasing plays down. He's smashing into
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people and he's making his impact felt. And then you,
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you know, it's like, this is the stats aren't necessarily there,
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but he's giving the effort that Ryan day and Larry
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Johnson have talked about for a while now. And so, um,
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That was very, very impactful in his own ways. But again,
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30 points, but it's not because everybody played poorly. There
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were some good efforts out there. Did James Smith even
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play in this game? I'm looking right now, and he's
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not listed anywhere. He's not even listed in the participation report.
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So I guess that makes me feel better because I'm like,
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where is James Smith in all of this? And okay,
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he didn't play. Great job. So that excuses him, at least.
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But kudos to Andrew Kustin for running around. Will Smith
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had a really nice play that did not become a
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tackle for loss that should have. John Walker got some pressure.
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So the defensive tackles continue to play well enough. And
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it's not like USC ran all over them. But overall,
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I think those are my main thoughts on the defense.
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Tempo was an issue being spread out as an issue.
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And I think you're going to see more of that
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from Oregon this week.
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Yeah. I think, I think this is one of the
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things where Oregon is going to learn lots of lessons
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from what, what USC did. So Ohio state has a
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week to figure out, you know, figure out solutions to
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some of that stuff.
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Cause you're going to see it again.
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You're not going to, it's not going to be, Oh,
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thank goodness.
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We're not going to see anything. You know, thank goodness.
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We don't have to see that again. It's like, well, I,
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bad news.
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Oregon has the game film. So, uh, we'll see what they,
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and then even worse news. We'll see what Chip Kelly
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dreams up for two weeks from now. Cause boy, that, uh, whatever, whatever, uh,
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you saw from Lincoln Riley, Chip Kelly is going to
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do it from, uh, you know, the annexation, he's going
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to run the annexation of Puerto Rico out of some
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of those formations. So yeah, it'll be, uh, it'll be
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an interesting couple of weeks. I'm sure Matt Patricia is
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going to, uh, going to be busy this week.
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Yeah. Everybody better be busy this week. And, uh, I'm
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not saying just run. It's time for war. for the
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next month, but, uh, have some, some sort of motivation
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and emotion going and getting everybody ready to go. And that,
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that includes the coaches themselves. I think everybody, nobody should
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be satisfied with the output that they've had, including Tom,
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you anyway, that'll do it for here for me. I'm
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not flubbing over my words. I'm doing just fine. Hit
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that thumbs up, subscribe to the channel, leave us some comments.
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What'd you guys think of this game? Um, Hey, you
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know what? Go ahead and let us know what you
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thought of this game. That's fine. We'll check those out. And,
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of course, we are still, if you believe that, we
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are still talking about this over at the BuckeyeInsiders.com message
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board where we're talking it out. We're talking other things
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out there as well, and we would love to see
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you there hanging out with us. So that will do
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it from here. Thank you all for tuning in, and
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we'll talk to you all later.
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Well, she threw away the motel key I wish it.
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Never meant.
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We could steal a car and leave tonight.