Nidal Hasan Execution Debate On The Brett Winterble Show

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Speaker 1: It's the Brett Witter Bowl show. It's great to be with you. It's always great to be with you.
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Speaker 2: You know why?
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Speaker 1: Because you are incredible out there. I'm telling you right now, you're doing all the hard work. You're doing everything. You're a little bit nervous, perhaps. You know, I was listening to a pizza show. And one of the things that I think is interesting is what we are going to do between now and the end of the election cycle. I think it's going to be a very fascinating, tight race. And, you know, we have to understand that not everything is going to be a blowout. You can't you can't do that, you know, consistently. You have to fight for every possible thing that you need. And we'll talk about that coming up at four or five. We're going to have break in with Brett Jensen. He's going to be kicking it with us and talking about the scandal with what people were putting into the atmosphere and talking about crazy things and using language that's not appropriate for a professional thing. But I want to start with this that has nothing to do with the politics of the day yet. OK, so I want to go here and it's the Nadal Hassan killing. This guy is a terrible, filthy, awful human being. He went in and murdered so many people and he went in and he had.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely no remorse whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: And so as a consequence of this attack, you know, we sat back for a whole long period of time before Donald Trump decided he was going to push for an execution.
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Speaker 3: Well, that has now changed.
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Speaker 1: President Trump says that Nidal Hassan's execution won't be live streamed. I think that is a very smart idea. I don't like the idea of people sitting around eating the popcorn, doing whatever, because you turn this guy into a, you know, pathetic figure among the, you know, people who are all about that.
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Speaker 3: Kind of life.
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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump said the execution of the convicted Fort Hood killer. Nadal Hassan would not be live streamed. There had been growing backlash against Pete Hexeth. And the effort to show the former U.S.
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Speaker 3: Army major.
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Speaker 1: Execution live online that you don't want to do that. You don't, you want that guy down, down, down in the dirt. That's what you want. You want him to be forgotten. You want him to never, uh, ever, ever be thought of again. It's a terrible thing, but it's the reality of why we have to do these things because you will turn this guy into a martyr, a martyr, Before Trump's announcement, a new Washington Post, ABC News, Ipsos poll found 80 percent of Americans said the execution should not be streamed live. Now, I'm very optimistic with that number. I think that number is important because 84 percent did not want to see this piece of garbage ever seen again. And I think that's an important thing to take with us. Trump's announcement... came after the growing backlash against the defense secretary, Pete Hexeth, as we just said. He was going to be executed online, and you were going to create a whole new group of people who are going to come around and go into the different neighborhoods and thinking that that's a really cool thing to do. Believe you me, if you're in New York, if you're in Chicago, if you're in... any of these places where the radical radicals are, they would start doing things. And this is going to be something that I think we should just take this guy, kill him, and bury him. We're not going to hang them from a tree. We're not going to hang them from this or any of that. And there's all these people that want to make it exotic and all this crazy stuff. We don't want to do that. We want this person to be forgotten. I mean, that's really what we should be doing because he murdered those people. And we should be the bigger of of the rest here. Nadal Malik Hassan, a former U.S. Army major turned traitor, I would just call him a jihadi, is a very bad and an evil man, said Donald Trump. Thursday in a Truth Social post, the president noted that Hassan had killed 13 people.
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Speaker 3: 13 people.
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Speaker 1: One of whom was pregnant, injured 32 other people. This guy needs to be sent directly to hell without an asbestos suit, okay? And that's what has to happen. I'm sorry, but that's what has to happen. When you think about this, the killings, one, two, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13. That's how many people got killed. 32 others, including one woman who was pregnant. I don't want to ever hear his name uttered ever again. He should be left to infamy. So a couple of places I went before I came into the place here today, right, where I do my show. And I overheard something and I couldn't believe it. There was a person, I'm not going to tell you where he was.
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Speaker 3: Okay. I don't want to, I don't want to embarrass the person because he would know exactly what he, he said and he'll know and he'll know it immediately. Maybe he'll call me. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he really thought anything about me. He was like a little taller than me. So this, this guy says to his friend, He says, hey, the wholesale prices jumped up 6.3 percent. We're going to get rid of Trump. We have people in the audience. Maybe he's not in the audience. He might be he might be, you know, some other person.
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Speaker 3: But why are we supposed to be excited about inflation? Because the inflation is still happening. I mean, we have to acknowledge all of these things, right?
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Speaker 1: The killing of Nadal, the wholesale prices jumping 6.3% annually in September, the biggest gain since 2022.
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Speaker 3: There are people who hate.
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump so much.
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Speaker 1: And people who support Donald Trump so much that they are attacking.
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Speaker 3: Their own dumb idea. It's crazy. I can't figure this out.
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Speaker 1: So I went out and I said, OK, I want to I want to see.
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Speaker 3: What this looks like.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: OK, so the producer price index rose six point three percent year over year. The largest annual increase since 2022. Who was president in 2022? Anybody remember?
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Speaker 3: You don't remember? Nobody remembers?
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Speaker 5: 2022?
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Speaker 3: It was Biden. Biden was the guy.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: And he took all that money and he threw it out of the mattresses. He did all that sort of stuff. Energy costs drove to a higher index.
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Speaker 3: And the PPI.
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Speaker 1: Comes on the heels of the Wednesday CPI release, which was also hotter than the economists anticipated on an annual basis. Now, I don't care how you want to vote.
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Speaker 3: You vote. I know how I'm going to vote.
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people that I know that are going to vote probably in the same direction that that this audience is probably. But the thing is, I don't understand this. We're going to cut off our nose to spite our face. I I don't care what president is the president, but I want the economy to be robust. I want everybody to have the ability to to do the things that they want to do. This is one of the things that just boggles my mind. September's producer price index came in much hotter than the economists forecast on Thursday, underscoring the continued inflationary pressure coming from energy amidst the war with Iran. So I think all these progressives that are out there and they know who they are, they call in on the program.
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Speaker 3: They they they like to send missives to us and all that. And I think it's great.
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Speaker 1: I love I love the back and forth. I'll never say no. But with the back and the forth.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: But when you sit there and you say, OK, this is really great. We've got inflationary pressure. This is amazing. And it's all from energy.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: All from energy. So I guess the folks who are going to vote for Mr. Cooper and those such people like Tallarico, they're going to just sit back there and they're going to say, look at this. We're getting elected because we're going to have higher costs.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 3: Very nice. Very nice. You got that totally incredible.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: So when you look at this and you try to break this thing down, the measure of the underlying inflation pressures climbed 1.3% in September and 6.3% on an annual basis, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That marked the largest monthly and annual gains since, oh, what? March of 2022, when Joe Biden jacked up all that spending. Both readings topped the expectations of economists polled by the Dow Jones, who forecast an advance of 0.6% on that number, came in 5.5% annually. So this is what I think is very interesting when we start to get into this. because however the election goes, I have my prediction that I have put on a piece of paper and I'm going to open it up when that time comes and I'll read it on the air. And I'm not going to juice it or anything like that. I do have a piece of paper that I have put down on that note. And so I want to see people be able to buy the things that they need to get energy for the stuff that they need because, you know, it is going to be winter pretty soon, and I don't want you guys to have to pay, like, through the nose. But Bad Orange Man, Bad Orange Man is going to be your bailiwick in that regard, and that's the problem. You see, I don't, and I mean this with all sincerity. You don't have to believe me. If you don't want to believe me, you don't believe me, okay?
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Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't like seeing people be miserable.
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Speaker 1: I want people in our country to be able to get money, get food, start businesses, get the energy that you need, go on vacations, do whatever that sort of stuff was. I thought that was a really great idea. I think that's a wonderful sort of approach doing this. I don't like to see American people being the victims of hard, uh, times. I, that's just something that I don't like to do. Cause I happen to like the American people. I happen to like being an American. I want you to be able to go and pursue whatever it is that you want to pursue. But there's another factor in this and it's something that people are really not talking about. So they have a guy who is the guy who is running, uh, the department who is in charge of the different approaches that are there. And I'm talking about Mr.
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Speaker 3: Warsh. Mr. Warsh, okay?
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Speaker 1: So he's the guy at the Fed. He's doing his thing. Warsh is doing this thing. Now, he is purposely pushing us up That's what he's doing because he feels like that we need to have a tighter kind of approach here. We don't want to have loose money going around or any of those sorts of things. I don't know what that looks like. I don't know what that feels like. But I'm telling you right now, you're starting to feel it in your bottom line. And I want to see a very strong... approach when it comes to people being able to spend their money, do their things, rent a house, buy a house, do all of that stuff. I'm not one of these people who is going to say, ha ha, I think it's funny that you can't get a house. I think it's funny that you can't get the things that you need. I want the United States of America to be the most powerful country in the entire universe.
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Speaker 3: Forget it.
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Speaker 1: Forget the world, the universe. And I want to see us doing great things. There's only one problem. The other side wants to see us crash. And I'm not talking about the Iranians. And I'm not talking.
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Speaker 3: About, you know, what are the guys who are calling you to this? You need to do this for us because we need more money and all this kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1: Right now, I don't want those guys. I don't care about those people around the world. I care about the United States of America. I am a person who loves the United States of America. And I want us to be a healthy and a strong United.
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Speaker 3: States of America. But unfortunately, unfortunately. If you vote the wrong way, you're going to suddenly wake up and say, oh my gosh, this is terrible. I am angry. Yeah, you're going to be angry. You're going to be angry. You see, because I want you to have the good stuff.
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Speaker 1: I want you to have great Christmases or Hanukkahs or any of that. I want you to enjoy the blessings of our country. And yet, and yet, like the Tallarico... And the rest of them, they want to see your kids crying on Christmas because bad orange man. Bad orange man.
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Speaker 3: I don't roll that way. I want my country to always be strong. Unfortunately, the other side, they don't care. Let's... Welcome back. Great to be with you. My name is Brett Waterbull. 704-570-1079. Gets right to me.
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Speaker 6: Here it is.
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Speaker 7: 704.
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Speaker 1: 570-1079. I have other numbers, but this is the number that I have picked for you.
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Speaker 3: I have given you this number to.
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Speaker 1: Call me 24-7-365, sometimes on leap years.
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Speaker 3: It's great to be together with you. I know, I hear you people. I hear you. I hear what you're saying. You want to hear more from Tallarico.
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Speaker 1: We have to give them some Tallarico.
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Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many people. It's 5, 12, 11.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people want Tallarico. He's ready for the Tallarican. And he's going to be the Tallarico Tallarican. That's what I'm going to call him if he gets in the situation. That will be very scary. We don't know where he's going to go and hide.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: We have these people that send messages to me saying, how come you don't talk about Tallarico? I talk about Tallarico pretty much every day. I mean, I was the OG Tallarican is what I was doing.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I'm sorry, but that's what it was. I'm the OG. He's a Tallarican. Okay, here we go.
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Speaker 4: You ready?
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Speaker 1: How about a little something for the ladies today? Okay, we're going to listen to this. This is a very interesting back and forth. Let a rip go fine.
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Speaker 8: And so I can respect anyone like you who is consistently pro-life. And I actually think there's common ground we can find here. We may come to different moral and ethical conclusions when it comes to the question of should abortion be legal or not. It sounds like you and I do come to a different conclusion.
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Speaker 2: That's okay.
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Speaker 8: We're both Christians, and the Bible is silent on the issue of abortion. It means you and I both have to look at different scriptures to try to come to a conclusion.
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Speaker 9: And I just want to add that the Bible is not silent on abortion.
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Speaker 3: There is the Ten Commandments, thou shalt not kill. And as Catholics, we take great.
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Speaker 5: Insult.
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Speaker 9: I guess sometimes when it's just founded that way.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, first of all, he's a guy.
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Speaker 1: So like he should not have any standing in talking about that.
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Speaker 3: I don't think right.
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Speaker 1: Because that's what we've been told for a long time from the feminists. And he's I mean, you want to see a major feminist. He's he's he's one of them. I mean, he's he's he's he's wanting to change genders. He's wanting to do all these things, you know, and that.
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Speaker 3: And look, if that's his if that's his program, that's his program. He lives in Austin. I'm not surprised. And you know, that's, that's kind of what this guy does.
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Speaker 1: It's funny because every time I talk about Tallarico, I have, I have this particular person that sends me.
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Speaker 3: A note and they say, why are you talking about Tallarico?
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Speaker 4: Why?
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Speaker 1: Because it's one of the biggest, it's one of the biggest in the entire country. This one of the biggest runs in the, in the entire country.
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Speaker 3: I have to, I have to, you know, give the thing that he needs to need which is now going to be um talarico on save america act con job what what are you talking about let's listen to this hit it up go ahead.
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Speaker 1: It's uh talarico on saving america act con job you got.
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Speaker 6: That One of the exchanges that stood out to me was when that Navy veteran, the guy that served for 22 years, jumped in and said, look, I support the Save America Act.
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Speaker 3: I want to know if you'll vote for it.
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Speaker 6: Tallarico looked him in the eye and said, effectively, well, I really don't know that much about it. I don't want to comment on things I don't know anything about. So two months ago, he gave a long answer. in an interview somewhere, trashing the Save America Act, claiming it was only designed to disenfranchise black voters. And what I learned about Tallarico in that moment is that he has really trouble looking someone in the eye who he knows disagrees with him and just saying, you know what? You and I are going to have to agree to disagree on this.
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Speaker 9: He did that all night.
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Speaker 6: No, even the Catholic lady, who's clearly pro-life and clearly has a different view of things, he tried to get her to believe that they were.
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Speaker 3: On the same page.
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Speaker 6: That's what you're supposed to do as a politician.
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Speaker 3: He lied to that veteran. He is more slippery than a wet panther. That's what I learned tonight. That is a great line.
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Speaker 10: Did you hear that line at the end? He's as wet as a, oh my gosh. See, this is why.
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Speaker 3: This is why we have to talk about Tallarico.
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Speaker 1: I know there are people who say we don't want any more Tallarico, but Tallarico morphs in a lot of different ways. Sometimes he's here. Sometimes he's there. Sometimes he's got a checking account. Sometimes he's got $ 150.
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Speaker 3: Billion in a checking account. I'm just joking about that. I don't know if he has a checking account. He had something with his mom at once upon a time. But, you know, you have to figure this kind of stuff out that they're trying to spoon feed you with.
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Speaker 9: But that's, you know.
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Speaker 1: Here, what about Tallarico? Let me give you Tallarico. He has it and he wants it both ways on abolishing ICE.
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Speaker 3: Are we going to find out anything new? Let's go.
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Speaker 2: Fire.
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Speaker 7: You said, and I quote you, Representative, it is time to tear down the secret police force and replace it. That was actually in your Senate primary debate back in January. Your current immigration plan, as you as you lay it out, does not go quite that far.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 7: It does not actually abolish ICE if that's what tear down the secret police force. So I'm trying to understand where you stand.
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Speaker 3: On this issue.
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Speaker 7: So important to Texas and the country. Do you support abolishing ICE or not?
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Speaker 8: No, and I never have. We need immigration and customs enforcement in this country, but that's not what we're seeing. What we've seen over the last year is a secret police force, and that's what we don't want in this country. We don't want masked men in unmarked vehicles coming through and terrorizing our communities.
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Speaker 3: Okay, except for one thing.
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Speaker 1: You're going to need to get the House and you're going to need to get the Senate. And then you're going to have to try to get it through Donald Trump when it comes to this approach. So you don't have any power, even if you get immaculated. I mean, you are potentially going to be immaculated into the next big king or queen.
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Speaker 3: Or whatever it is. And you're going to get in there and you're going to say, wait, hold on.
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Speaker 1: We have to stop all of the immigration enforcement. Good luck because you don't have the presidency. The president can do that. The president can handle that.
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Speaker 3: But this guy is selling stuff that he doesn't have in terms of the merchandise.
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Speaker 1: So coming up in this next hour, we have a break in with Brett Jensen. He's going to be right off, right, right on the jump. And we're going to, Get the details of all the stuff that's been happening, especially with the language that's been going back and forth. Brett's going to break that down for you. A lot of other things. And plus, by the way, you are always welcome. You are always welcome if you have a take, if you want to opine. You can send it in to us. You can call. We have a phone number just for you.
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Speaker 2: 704-570-1079.
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Speaker 3: And that's, that's just for you so that you have that ability.
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Speaker 1: And, uh, I, I, I think, you know, it's really interesting to see how all of these things are, are moving in this, in this particular way. And we, we have a, I'm going to, I'm going to do another, uh, uh, Tallarico if I can, please.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 1: So we know right now that there is a con job there. We know that it's trying to get the ladies. We also know that it's going both way on abolishing ICE.
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Speaker 3: So what do you say we round it off? And we talk about energy. Energy is very important, or so it should be, I would think. Let's see. He likes it both ways on the energy fight.
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Speaker 2: Go.
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Speaker 8: So I'm campaigning on an all the above energy strategy that includes oil and gas. I want to protect the good paying oil and gas jobs that support whole families across the state. And I want us to invest in the energy sources of the future, wind and solar and geothermal and hydrogen and batteries, so that we can stay dominant in the energy industry.
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Speaker 2: Fracking?
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Speaker 5: Fracking?
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Speaker 3: Are you going to do fracking?
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Speaker 1: You know, the president just came out two days ago and he said they have pulled all the permits, all of the permits out in Alaska.
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Speaker 3: And they're ready to go.
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Speaker 1: He said it at the speech that he gave with the candidate that was there, Dan Sullivan. And he said, you can start immediately doing this. Now, what's going to happen is you're going to get talaricoed. OK, you have to understand that you're going to get talaricoed because I don't know about you.
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Speaker 3: You may be new to politics. You may be familiar with the politicking.
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Speaker 1: But the reality is, The minute if they flip, right, if they flip the House or if they flip the Senate, they're going to go find some pinko commie leftist to stop the ability to have your energy coming from Alaska. They are going to do that. They are absolutely going to do that. And I would say to the president. Just just tell them we're doing it. Just do it because you have to do it in this kind of way because you need to have the ability to have that energy at some point. You know, people will finally understand that this is not a lost cause.
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Speaker 3: This is an important thing.
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Speaker 1: And when you think about how we spend our money, do you enjoy spending six dollars for money?
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Speaker 2: Diesel.
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Speaker 3: Oh, you got to do diesel, man. Diesel's really where it's at.
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Speaker 1: Just do some diesel, just diesel it up, do all that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. $ 7, uh, $ 8. Where are we? California?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: That's what they're going to be trying to shove down your throat, but we need to have an, all of the, all of the above. But when you have a guy who's Tallarico in, yeah, he, he's, he, he's trying to Tallarico everybody. Um, And I don't think he's probably ever been around any sort of operation where you're seeing energy coming out of the ground. My guess is he's probably a bicyclist of some repute and just drives his bicycle all around. And so we can't play games and you can't do it in the state of Texas. The state of Texas is not going to put it up with it. And I'm just telling you that right now. You just go drive around. You go look at around. You see this. That is a state that is ripe for energy.
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Speaker 3: And that's what you have to do.
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Speaker 1: You have to make sure that that's how it's going to be but unfortunately there are people who just like to sit back and they like to say you know what i'm just i'm just i'm just going to uh say no i'm going to say no on that okay so here's the thing the talarico guy right the talarican So the Tallarican is going to go to the Senate, like hypothetical.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: So let's pretend that that Paxton Paxton is not is not going to be there. OK, it's going to be Tallarico. So you have a Tallarican who is going to go and. He is going to say we're not going to do any more fracking or any of that kind of stuff. And I'm sorry, that's just the way it's going to have to be. If you have a problem with it, just pick up the phone and just don't even call me. And so that's what he's going to do. Now, a state like Texas. OK, let's do another state, a state like Florida. a state like California, a state like the heart part of the country, and sit back there and think about, no, we're not going to do that energy that we've got. We're going to buy the energy from, I don't know. But when you're running a state that's as big and diverse as the state of Texas, why would you want to knock out the people the very legs of your economy because Orange Man bad? Like the Tallarican wants to take on the Orange Man bad. I get that. But he doesn't really have a plan to do anything about it. And that's the big challenge. That's the big problem that we're looking at. Now, there's other ways you can get energy.
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Speaker 3: You can walk.
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Speaker 1: You can have a Tesla or Yes, I'm always going to call it the Tesla. He could drive around the Tesla. You could have battery power. You could have all of that.
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Speaker 4: I'm not.
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Speaker 3: I'm not slagging those people. I'm saying, yeah, you want to go all the above? Let's go all the above.
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Speaker 1: But part of that all the above has got to mean that you have the ability to use power from Alaska or Texas or New Mexico or any of the stuff that you want to try to get.
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Speaker 3: How are you going to do it?
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Speaker 1: This is probably one of the very first people in the state of Texas who is adamantly going to stand up and say, you may not have the energy supplies that you are designed to use. And unfortunately, you're going to have to find another way to get this fixed. Now, the good thing about that is he is going to be the most famous senator in the country. Because he's going to be the guy that everybody's going to say when you have storms coming through, you know, all that sort of stuff. They're going to be saying, why don't we have the energy?
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Speaker 3: Why are our.
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Speaker 1: Ambulances stopped in an ice fall? I mean, what is this going to be? He is going to be the most famous person. In fact, I would probably start early now saying this guy is the next guy up.
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Speaker 4: Why?
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Speaker 3: Let's see how he can rate. He'll see how he rates. Let's see what he's got his answers on. Let's see what he's happening. I am not. I'm not sitting back and hoping and praying and doing all that. But I'll tell you this right now.
00:33:34
Speaker 1: I would if it meant that it would get us energy because it's clear that this guy has no idea about the.
00:33:43
Speaker 3: Energy pocket at all.
00:33:58
Speaker 2: Welcome.
00:33:58
Speaker 1: It's the Brett Whittable Show, hour number two underway. We are winding our way over towards breaking with Brett Jensen. This is a guy who knows how to break big stories and break them wide open.
00:34:11
Speaker 3: It's great to have you here, Brett. Give us the latest in all.
00:34:16
Speaker 1: Of the things that have been happening, especially with the the CMPT.
00:34:21
Speaker 3: What is CMBD? What's happening out there?
00:34:25
Speaker 2: Well, they had.
00:34:26
Speaker 4: Their press conference today, and I said they were having their quarterly crime stats press conference. I mean, they do that every three months or so. They have their quarterly stats on how things are going crime-wise in the city.
00:34:39
Speaker 2: Right.
00:34:41
Speaker 4: And I think they spent about three minutes on it today. They really didn't even discuss it. And it was all about the text messages, about the story that I broke on Monday, and all the stuff going on with that. with the six officers. And so I said last night on my show, I would be very surprised if she said much, just because it's an internal investigation. It's a personnel matter. But I will say this, to Estella Patterson's great credit, because let's be honest, most government officials, I'm sorry, we can't talk about it. That's a personnel matter. It's an ongoing investigation. Like that's their favorite thing. It's an ongoing lawsuit or it's an ongoing investigation. And then they just shut up and they don't say anything. Well, she didn't do that. And to her credit, she answered the questions the best that she could. And she talked about the situation and how there were six officers that were cited for termination. Three have already resigned. The other three are going through the process of going through their civil hearings and whatnot.
00:35:49
Speaker 2: So I asked the first question.
00:35:51
Speaker 4: Because I had been told, if you remember on Monday, I reported that multiple races were involved. Other media outlets were not reporting that. But yet they were going to the NAACP and stuff like that.
00:36:04
Speaker 2: And it just, I.
00:36:06
Speaker 4: Wasn't a big fan of that because it wasn't a white versus black situation.
00:36:11
Speaker 2: But.
00:36:13
Speaker 4: So she confirmed that there are three different races among these six police officers.
00:36:19
Speaker 2: So it's not a white. It's white officers, a black.
00:36:23
Speaker 4: Officer, and a Hispanic officer. And they weren't targeting blacks.
00:36:32
Speaker 2: They were targeting everybody in the text messages.
00:36:37
Speaker 4: They were talking about, you know, different sexualities and women and different religions and different races. It was, as somebody said to me, it was equal opportunity bigotry. There was no one specific race or group singled out. It was widespread against everything. And then they came out and they said, well, you know, they were playing a game where they would target and they would get a certain amount of points where if they targeted someone, Like, I don't know, if they saw a rainbow sticker on the back of a car, they'd pull over, and whatever they got, they would have.
00:37:12
Speaker 2: A points game.
00:37:12
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
00:37:14
Speaker 2: Well, Estella, but that's what was reported.
00:37:17
Speaker 4: Well, Estella Patterson said today... We've gone through body cam footage. We have gone through all the arrest records. We have gone through all the citations for speeding. We've gone through everything involving these, and we can't find anything. There's zero evidence that everything they talked about.
00:37:37
Speaker 2: That they actually... enacted.
00:37:40
Speaker 4: So basically they were talking all this stuff in their text messages, but never actually did it in real life, basically all barred and no bite.
00:37:49
Speaker 2: And so, which is a good thing, which means nobody.
00:37:52
Speaker 4: As of right now appears to have had their civil rights violated or they weren't singling out people. They were just talking about doing it, but apparently never did it.
00:38:01
Speaker 1: To the extent that you can know this, um, obviously there's going to be retraining and things like that for, for folks, because when this breaks out, you have to get right on the good foot there here.
00:38:18
Speaker 3: Right.
00:38:18
Speaker 1: I mean, there, there's, there's going to be, there's going to be shakeups. It's gotta be, I imagine.
00:38:23
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. You know, and she, she did say that, which I thought was actually funny.
00:38:30
Speaker 4: Hey, all this started with, before I took over. I was like, oh, Johnny Jennings, where are you right now?
00:38:38
Speaker 2: But.
00:38:39
Speaker 1: Oh, that's... See, has anybody reached out to him? That's an interesting take there, Brett.
00:38:44
Speaker 2: That's a great point. And so... But she did say that we're going to... That they were... We, like, speaking as if I were her, but they are going to... you know, looking.
00:38:55
Speaker 4: Into other aspects in other things to do other internal investigations to make sure this is a one-off and this isn't something that's going on or systemic or anything like that. So they are going to look and see just to make sure to try to do their due diligence that this is one-off and not something that's permeated throughout the entire force.
00:39:16
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, you know, you just, you just, I'm just wondering here because, you know, the, the oldest martial art of all time is Isu. I'm wondering, is there going to be any action, or are they just going to put this away and say, we're never going to do this again?
00:39:33
Speaker 2: So I don't... So apparently there aren't any victims that could sue as.
00:39:40
Speaker 4: Of right now because, as Stella Patterson said, we don't think that they singled anything out. There's no evidence that what they talked about doing, they actually did.
00:39:50
Speaker 2: Now, maybe the three officers.
00:39:53
Speaker 4: Who have yet to resign, maybe they sued to try and keep their jobs or get rid of the wrongful termination so it's not on their record or whatever.
00:40:00
Speaker 2: I don't know. But there were six. This is what's complicated.
00:40:04
Speaker 4: There were originally seven, but the seventh got charged with all the flat cameras and looking at that. And it was when they were going through his phone is when they found all those text messages as evidence.
00:40:14
Speaker 2: They were going through his phone for evidence, and that's when they found that he was.
00:40:17
Speaker 4: Part of this text thread. So he was already arrested for flat camera stuff. And it was these last six that we're talking about. Three of the last six resigned. The other three are still going through the process and not resigning. All right.
00:40:31
Speaker 3: Breaking with Brett Jensen is mandatory tonight. What do you got?
00:40:35
Speaker 1: I'm sort of thinking you're going down this trend, you know, trip here.
00:40:40
Speaker 3: What do you what do you got?
00:40:42
Speaker 2: Definitely.
00:40:43
Speaker 4: I'm going to play a lot of the press coverage, so you just don't hear me say it. You're actually going to hear the words straight from Estelle Patterson. And so you'll hear everything that she says talking about it. And then you'll also hear the questions and answers because I like to play them all, not just sound clips, so everyone can hear them in their full context. So that's what I'm going to be talking about tonight, obviously a lot.
00:41:02
Speaker 2: Of this stuff.
00:41:03
Speaker 1: Look, I always like when you're breaking that stuff down because— There's stuff that people don't necessarily have in the right order and things like that, but you dot your T's and cross your I's and all that sort of stuff.
00:41:16
Speaker 3: It's going to be really great. You know what I'm saying?
00:41:20
Speaker 4: I totally understand.
00:41:21
Speaker 2: I thought, first of all, you're going to be like Cam Newton and say hindsight's 20-20.
00:41:24
Speaker 3: It is.
00:41:25
Speaker 2: Excuse me, hindsight's 50-50.
00:41:26
Speaker 3: Look, see, you tripped yourself up.
00:41:29
Speaker 10: I did.
00:41:29
Speaker 3: All you had to do. All you had to do. It was a layup.
00:41:33
Speaker 1: Why?
00:41:34
Speaker 2: Why?
00:41:34
Speaker 3: No, great stuff, Brett. I appreciate you being on the show and taking time with us. Thanks so much. Welcome back. Good to be with you.
00:41:56
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into a couple of other things that I think you have to know about. And if you don't know about this, then this is good because I can talk to you about thinking about this. And I think it's an important topic that we're going to talk about. And that is Ilhan Omar. No, really, it's Ilhan Omar. Ilhan Omar is.
00:42:20
Speaker 1: She's in some hot water a little bit, I think, as we look at this.
00:42:26
Speaker 3: And when I think about the way.
00:42:34
Speaker 3: We spend our time, right? When you're talking about.
00:42:40
Speaker 1: What she's doing, what she was doing, what they're now looking into. And essentially what it is, is are you a full-blown American citizen that is going to be, you know, doing the things that people who get brought into the United States, how does that work? How do we do this kind of thing, right? Especially if there's questions.
00:43:10
Speaker 3: Now, everything in the world is just wrapped up with all that kind of stuff. And let me give you.
00:43:21
Speaker 3: A piece of, uh, of this. I, and I think this is important.
00:43:24
Speaker 1: Um, this is going to be, uh, Ilhan Omar investigation needed John you.
00:43:30
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:43:30
Speaker 3: It's the John you one, uh, go ahead and fire it up.
00:43:33
Speaker 2: Go.
00:43:34
Speaker 11: The congresswoman here is not a citizen. She constitutionally should not be serving in Congress. We have to find that out. Is she a citizen or not? It's a yes or no binary question. It's easy to figure out. It doesn't matter whether she knew about it, whether she lied about it intentionally or not. If she's not a citizen because of the date, then she shouldn't be in Congress. Then you can look at denaturalizing her, taking away her citizenship. Again, that just depends on were she and her father telling the truth. on her naturalization documents. Look, I'm a naturalized citizen too. I got naturalization because.
00:44:11
Speaker 3: Of my parents. I'm really glad they did it.
00:44:13
Speaker 11: But if someone came up to me and said, I want to make sure that you were given your citizenship properly, I wouldn't accuse them of being a racist and start raising money off it. I would say, here's my documents and this is why we think they're accurate. I wouldn't go and try this out in the media and try to fight it the way she's fighting it by accusing you, everybody else, of being bigots. I would just say, here are the documents, and this is why I'm allowed to serve in Congress.
00:44:37
Speaker 12: Now, you know the law. Is this something that she can fight for years? Is this something where she's going to make a big public spectacle about and have her friends create a little circle around her so she can't get arrested?
00:44:54
Speaker 3: That sounds like Berkeley classrooms. So that's John Yoo.
00:44:59
Speaker 1: He's a person who talks about law and is a lawyer up in California.
00:45:08
Speaker 3: But this is a very tough question, right?
00:45:12
Speaker 1: Are you eligible to be— forget setting aside the issues when it comes to being in the United States— We have to now decide whether or not you are somebody who is eligible to be a.
00:45:31
Speaker 3: Congressperson.
00:45:33
Speaker 1: And we don't know what that looks like. We don't know how that is happening. We don't know how this all breaks. I've got another clip. Ilhan Omar in jeopardy. But blaming Trump.
00:45:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is this is what we got.
00:45:49
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
00:45:49
Speaker 3: Fire it up.
00:45:50
Speaker 1: Go.
00:45:50
Speaker 9: Folks that don't know Ilhan Omar to know for me, she's not going to stay silent to anything. She's going to use her bullhorn even more in regards to this fascist police state. You're checking off every box, Trump, every freaking box and going after a political enemy, somebody that is not going to hold back and holding you accountable.
00:46:09
Speaker 3: And you go and raid her home.
00:46:12
Speaker 9: Weeks before the election, over some immigration documents her father, who's deceased now, filed years ago while she was a kid. All that aside, every Democrat, every Republican, everyone that is serving in office should be calling this out for what it is. It literally checks off authoritative, fascist, king like.
00:46:36
Speaker 3: OK, all your all your statements and all that kind of stuff.
00:46:39
Speaker 1: That's, you know, OK, that you can do. You can say that you can do all those sorts of things like that. But the fact of the matter is, come on. There has to be standards. What are the standards? I don't know what the standards are.
00:46:53
Speaker 3: Am I an American?
00:46:54
Speaker 2: Yes, I am.
00:46:55
Speaker 3: I was born here. I have proof of citizenship here in the United States of America. And that's one of the things that's there. Now, where's her husband?
00:47:07
Speaker 1: Shouldn't they be having conversations and talking to the press?
00:47:12
Speaker 3: Shouldn't they be doing that?
00:47:14
Speaker 1: This is a very strange set of affairs, and not the least of which is, wait a minute, hold on, why is it always coming out of Minnesota?
00:47:27
Speaker 3: I haven't seen anybody from Scottsdale. I haven't seen anybody coming from Ventura County.
00:47:35
Speaker 1: I haven't seen people running around in California. I haven't seen any of this other stuff over here in Massachusetts. Where does this all come from? How does this all happen?
00:47:50
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me.
00:47:53
Speaker 4: But.
00:47:54
Speaker 3: we're going to have to just go out and turn the tables over and yell and scream and do all these things that are happening right now. Why, why are we doing this? Why are we doing this?
00:48:06
Speaker 1: It, if she's been naturalized and she has the proof of it.
00:48:12
Speaker 2: Okay. Time's up.
00:48:14
Speaker 3: We're done. If she is not naturalized, if she was under, you know, different pretenses and.
00:48:23
Speaker 1: Well, then sounds to me like you're not a congressperson anymore. And it sounds to me like you're going to have to get a lawyer and see if you're even an American citizen at this stage of the game.
00:48:33
Speaker 3: And that's an unfortunate thing.
00:48:35
Speaker 1: But citizenship should mean something like it should mean something. It's not just like one of these things. And by the way, Rashida Tlaib. They raided Donald Trump's house. What are you talking about?
00:48:54
Speaker 3: You didn't say anything nice about him when he was getting raided by Jack Straw from Wichita.
00:49:02
Speaker 1: No, I know it's not Jack Straw. I'm just making a joke about that because that guy is a joke. But the fact of the matter is, what are we doing? Why is this not happening? And why is this not happening in a very quick way? I don't I don't understand this. What you're seeing is right now, I want you to think about this. Just think about this for just 30 seconds. They're not confident that they have the evidence on their side. And so what they want to do is to knock over the table and and scream and gnashing of teeth and all of.
00:49:42
Speaker 3: That sort of stuff. That's what they're looking for.
00:49:45
Speaker 1: They're looking for a pretext so that they can be the aggrieved party, even if they were responsible for their own mistaking.
00:50:04
Speaker 3: Welcome back. It's the Brett Witterbull show.
00:50:05
Speaker 2: Good to be with you.
00:50:07
Speaker 1: One of the things that I've been following for a bit of time is a very important topic. And it's a topic that really can put a smile on a face or a face that's going to make you feel very badly. And what I'm talking about is this storyline that I have found which is a story that says rural women face higher death rates for breast cancer and the gap is widening. Now, we've heard about all the big shots that people have tried to go out there and deal with, right, when it comes to cancer, diabetes, all of that. And one of the places that you have a challenge with is the place where that is causing this gap that's widening because you don't have the ability to get screened or get the medicines that you need to get and all that sort of stuff. And so there's a storyline over at U.S.
00:51:25
Speaker 3: News and World Report.
00:51:27
Speaker 1: And the storyline is this. Women from rural locales are becoming less and less likely to survive a bout with breast cancer, a pair of new studies from the American Cancer Society shows. Breast cancer death rates are now higher in rural areas.
00:51:53
Speaker 3: Than in cities.
00:51:54
Speaker 1: So think about how many people are in the big cities.
00:51:58
Speaker 3: They have a higher run than that.
00:52:03
Speaker 1: According to a study that will be presented this coming Saturday, and it's about a meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology, what's more, the breast cancer survival gap between rural and urban women has nearly tripled in recent years. according to another study that was presented at the same meeting. So it goes like this. What stands out is not simply that women in rural communities experienced worse breast cancer survival, but that the gap widened over time. The person doing the research on this is Xinhuan Zhao. And This principal scientist of the health and services at the research at the American Cancer Society says that this is a serious challenge. This is something that has to be addressed. At a time when breast cancer detection... and treatment have improved substantially, right? Because you can scan, you can see people, you can see how this goes. The findings raise a concern that the benefits of those advances may not be reaching women in the rural areas of different parts of the country. The first study found that breast cancer death rates in rural regions, those that are in metropolitan areas between 2018 and 2023, based on the data from the U.S. cancer registries and the federal health registries as well, that's a reversal from 1995 to 1999.
00:54:08
Speaker 3: So they actually have reversed in that number.
00:54:10
Speaker 1: So Once upon a time, 2018 to 2023, and now there's a reversal back to the 1995 to 1999 numbers where rural women were less likely to die from breast cancer than their urban counterparts. according to the results from the team that they're looking at. The second study went even further, tracking more than 2.8 million women, 18 and older, diagnosed with breast cancer between 2010 and 2023. That team compared survival results living in cities and towns and other places. Results showed that women in rural areas had 9.3% higher rates of breast cancer death in 2017 going up to 2023 from the higher number for 3.4%. Now, these are all numbers that are kind of hard to look at. But when you think about this, this is something that we ought to be looking at. We should be paying attention to this because obviously this is a treatable and an ability to get these people the stuff that they need so that they're going to be able.
00:55:40
Speaker 3: To be safe and be alive and all of that.
00:55:46
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why You know, you've heard me talk about different companies when it comes to, you know, getting scanned and getting checked. You want to have this happen because there is the technology today is incredible. They have got absolutely incredible things that they are doing now. And it's ramping up. And you want to know what part of this is ramping up? It's all the stuff that you can do now. because of the AI stuff. You can model, you can pick, you can see, you can follow, you can do all.
00:56:26
Speaker 3: Of those sorts of things.
00:56:27
Speaker 1: So I would just say that especially rural women who may not be accessing what they can do, I'm just saying, get yourself scanned, get yourself checked out.
00:56:38
Speaker 3: It's a very, very important thing.
00:56:39
Speaker 1: And there's incredible things happening each and every single day.
00:56:50
Speaker 3: Welcome back. It's the Brett Witterbull Show. It's good to be with you.
00:56:58
Speaker 1: There are times that I hit these stories, and I look at these stories, and then I just say to myself, I can't possibly say this on the radio. And I'm not going to say it on the radio, but I could do it. I'm just going to give you the headline, okay? This is the headline from WIRED.
00:57:19
Speaker 3: I hate Wired, by the way. I really do. But this is the kind of thing that makes me.
00:57:27
Speaker 3: It makes me not want.
00:57:28
Speaker 1: To do these kinds of stories because they're annoying. I got my Muse AI agent to sext me. Meta says that's totally fine.
00:57:42
Speaker 3: What the heck is that? And I'm not repeating what I just said, but what the heck is that? are you so bored? Are you so weird that you're going to do things like that?
00:57:58
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. The muse cannot consent. So stop it.
00:58:05
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:58:06
Speaker 1: But these, these, see, these are the people. This is why we can't have really cool things. It's because everything at some point just is devoured by, things that you shouldn't be doing.
00:58:23
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I just, I sit here.
00:58:26
Speaker 1: And I look at this kind of stuff and I say, listen, this idea of what they want to try to do here, I am not in it. I have no desire to see it, but I have to make this known because there are people that do these things. And I don't understand why they get so excited about this stuff. Have you ever thought about going outside? Don't sit in your house all day.
00:58:58
Speaker 3: Go outside.
00:58:58
Speaker 1: Get some fresh air. Have conversations with people. Enjoy what we have in our life. We have got.
00:59:07
Speaker 3: So much incredible energy.
00:59:10
Speaker 1: Mean, wonderful, absolutely terrific things that we can do. We can go and cook. We can go and clean. We can go and drink nice food, whatever you want to do, however you're going to go that way. But the fact of the matter is I don't understand these people anymore. who are putting themselves as shut-ins so that they can do things that are really not appropriate in any way, shape, or form. And the fact of the matter is, let's just say this clearly, clearly, get some help.
00:59:47
Speaker 3: Get some help.
00:59:48
Speaker 1: If your best friend is some kind of a robot, you need to get some friends. human friends that you can talk to. This is what you need to do. I don't get it.
01:00:02
Speaker 3: These people vote. These people go out there and vote. They should be voided. They should void the vote on that regard because you clearly are not ready for prime time.
01:00:17
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just telling you, I hate to do it, but I have to do it. I have to say what needs to be said and in these different things. And that's why I'm going over to Donald Trump. Overcoming institutional and legal gridlock. That's what people are thinking is what's going to come next after the elections are over. So take a look at this. I'll break this down for you. An argument in favor for President Donald Trump continuing to press forward with his policy and political agenda, often articulated by his supporters and his allies, centers on an idea maintaining the momentum that he has built so far. Remember, we were just talking about the thing up in Alaska, right, where you can now suddenly get oil coming into the into the 48 states.
01:01:15
Speaker 3: That would be wonderful. That would be phenomenal. That would be incredible.
01:01:19
Speaker 1: But the only way you're going to be able to pull that off is to persuade enough people to go along with what you're doing.
01:01:26
Speaker 2: Right.
01:01:26
Speaker 1: So overcoming institutional and legal gridlock, that is what the left.
01:01:32
Speaker 3: Wants to do. The argument goes like this.
01:01:34
Speaker 1: Supporters argue that the executive actions and relentless persistence by by necessary bypass a deep seated apparatus of bureaucrats and activist groups and legal challenges. That's what you're going to see the minute this election is terminated. Once it once it's completed, you're going to start to see the stuff where they're going to try to say, now, you know what? You can't get your fracking. You can't get your oil. You can't get those things. Here's another one. Securing the economic and tax priorities. Oh, what does this mean? Well, here's what it means. They are going to advocate the urgency of making the Trump tax cuts permanent. Well, they've already been permanent, but they want to really put them in the way it's got to go in that interregnum period between the election termination and then going into whoever's in charge with the with the House and the Senate. So they're going to do a rush on that and try to make sure that these things are going to be codified so that you can still take advantage of those things that were brought about with the big, beautiful bill. The perspective from the supporters believe that halting and softening the administration's fiscal and deregular.
01:03:18
Speaker 3: Push is That is what they need to.
01:03:22
Speaker 1: make a permanent piece of okay that that's very important because otherwise you're going to have chuck schumer coming in with the glasses all the way down on his belly button and he's going to be saying uh well we can't let you have any more tax cuts we can't let you have any of this and the reason why he doesn't want you to have that is because he wants more money to be going out flowing out doing things that are not necessarily going to be the things that you would want, or I would want, or anybody else would. See, this is going to be push. The push here is important. And this was presaged back in June of 2025, okay? And what you saw there was a president who was not at war, a president who was not doing other things. But instead, now he has to pick that level back up so that the tariffs, the domestic agendas, all those sorts of things have to be in play. Because otherwise, these folks on the other side are going to say, yeah, we don't need that tax cut. We don't need you having a benefit from this or that or the other thing. But now is where you have to start defending yourself. You can't wait the night after the decisions are coming out. You have got to do it now. You've got to be pushing for this now.
01:04:50
Speaker 4: Why?
01:04:51
Speaker 1: Because there's going to be chaos in that interregnum period, as I just said, and they're going to be swarming you. You got to be prepared no matter how it goes. If it goes good for the presidency, if it goes bad for the presidency, if it goes halfway to this or halfway to that, you have got to be prepared and you've got to be moving right now. That's a very important thing that people have to understand. By the way, Trump's midterm strategy harks back to 1970.
01:05:25
Speaker 3: We'll break that down in the next hour. It's going to be a great breakdown. Welcome back. It's the Brett Witterbull Show.
01:05:43
Speaker 2: Good to be with you.
01:05:46
Speaker 1: So there's a strategy that's floating around that goes back to 1973.
01:05:53
Speaker 3: And what they're.
01:05:54
Speaker 1: Thinking of is how can we possibly get ourselves out of this particular situation? conundrum should the president, you know, get kind of locked down a little bit with, uh, what the, uh, the Congress and the Senate are trying to do.
01:06:09
Speaker 3: What's that? No, no, no, we're not, we're not, no, we're not. It's not the plovers. It's not the plovers.
01:06:16
Speaker 2: Okay.
01:06:16
Speaker 1: It's this, this is like a legitimate strategy that can happen. And it comes to you from the, uh, The wells way, way back, way, way, way, way back.
01:06:29
Speaker 3: In 1973, October of 1973.
01:06:32
Speaker 1: That was when Agnew resigned and pleaded no contest to one count of federal income tax evasion. Well, what ended up happening was you ended up with a tough situation.
01:06:51
Speaker 3: With your hands.
01:06:53
Speaker 1: And Nixon was pressured into resigning after the Senate Republicans decided that this was not good. This is not going to be good for us. So what are we going to do? We ought to have some kind of a strategy. We've got to have a major strategy. What's the strategy going to be? Well, this is over at the Washington Post. And it's on the Ripple page. It's what they call it, the Ripple page. In the decades that followed from that moment, Republicans would come to champion Agnew's vision in.
01:07:29
Speaker 3: The 1980s and 1990s. Representative Newt Gingrich.
01:07:36
Speaker 1: Who was elected Speaker of the House in 1995, rallied Republicans by calling on them to be tougher and fiercer against Democrats and by abandoning the traditional norms of bipartisanship and civility. in favor of a blistering smash mouth type style of partisanship. Now I don't, I can't imagine in the climate right now, like how much more smash mouth can you get? I don't think that that's what we're calling for, but let's, let's, let's go down this road. Cause I think this is something that's interesting and important. You know, people want to throw stuff in the soup.
01:08:28
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
01:08:29
Speaker 3: Here we go.
01:08:31
Speaker 1: When Barack Obama was president, Tea Party Republicans entered Washington and took Gingrich's methods to a new level, culminating. In the triumph of MAGA Republicans who aren't even more that I'm sorry, who are even more extreme. Agnew's so-called positive polarization has. been an increasingly important part of the Republican playbook during the last 10 years under Trump at all, right? Seeing an electorate that was deeply divided between red and blue... Trump abandoned the conventional aspirations to break through the divide. And he was successful with that, if you really think about it, which Obama had called in his keynote speech in 2004, Democratic National Convention, and instead concentrated almost exclusively on playing to the base, vilifying his opponents at every turn. He has used all of his political muscle to Republicans in line, understanding that the partisan discipline on the Capitol Hill and the electorate has been essential to his power. So the president of the United States is going to go and double down is what it feels like it's going to happen. It seems to me that he's going to try to push on this. A positive polarization is a strategy that has destructive effects.
01:10:27
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, really?
01:10:30
Speaker 2: OK.
01:10:31
Speaker 1: In a deeply polarized nation where voters are naturally divided into different camps on the key issues, political leaders. have a responsibility to push back against the worst of these divisions. Okay, so who's going to do it? How's it going to go? What is going to happen here? Partisanship is a natural, indeed healthy element of democratic politics, allowing important differences to manifest themselves and to see what this process eventually looks like. But the guardrails must remain in place to the partisan conflict within responsible bounds and political leaders must be willing to tell their supporters when to pull back. So example for that, here's a really good example for that. Don't shoot the president three times, two times. whatever times it is. You should not be shooting at the president. Let me be clear with that. You should not be, you should not be shooting at the president and you should condemn any political violence that takes place. Under Agnew's strategy, political leaders do the opposite. They intentionally fuel and deepen the harding worst feelings that the members of one party feel towards the other. So you can turn this up. You can turn this hot. You can turn this serious. You can turn this a lot of different ways. But you have to be understanding that you can't do everything when somebody's got a problem, meaning don't shoot the president.
01:12:34
Speaker 3: That's what's got to be clear.
01:12:37
Speaker 1: You want to go out and you want to have hyper partisanship? Go ahead and do it. You want to argue? Go ahead and do it. But do not do crazy things. We have to make this the way it is within the square of that.
01:12:59
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
01:13:00
Speaker 1: It's great to be with you. Let's jump out and talk to John. John, welcome to the show.
01:13:07
Speaker 2: Hey, Brett. How you doing, buddy?
01:13:08
Speaker 3: I'm doing well. Thank you very much. How are you?
01:13:11
Speaker 5: Excellent. Hey, that article is half right. Yeah, Newt Gingrich brought in a new attitude. But the Democrats are masters at projecting onto others what they do.
01:13:26
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:13:28
Speaker 5: Newt started hitting back only because the Democrats had been doing that to us for 30 years. You know, the Republican Country Club just took it and said, oh, whatever. And Ted Kennedy was out there smacking them around. Newt finally stood up and said, no, you know, you throw a punch, we're going to throw a punch. The whole thing about, you know, the violent extremists. Look who was, you know, The Democrats are the ones who have been shooting people for the last 20 years. You know, Scalise, Gabby Gifford, all those people were shot by Democrats, not Republicans, but they try to turn around and blame it on us. You know, they say January 6th. But how many Democrat riots have there been since the 60s?
01:14:15
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, yeah, absolutely. And look, and you had at one time a bombing at the Capitol.
01:14:24
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a terrible thing. That's why I never call for violence. I never say, hey, we've got to do this or go get that guy or something like that. I sit back here and I look at this and I think about this all the time. There are people who should not be involved in politics because they can't handle it. It's like somebody who's an inveterate drunkard. You know, just go do something else. You don't need to be in that lane. And unfortunately, you know, the worst of the worst do come out. And it does happen on both sides. But thank God we don't have that happening all the time. But that's a problem there.
01:15:10
Speaker 5: I agree with you, but my point is that every time something happens, they try to blame it on the Republicans. That's just if we respond after they've been doing it for 30 years. You can't put this new atmosphere on us. I mean, look what they did to Bork. They ruined people for decades and then tried to pin it on us.
01:15:38
Speaker 4: That's true.
01:15:40
Speaker 3: Look, that's true. And I appreciate the call, John. It's always good to talk to you, my friend.
01:15:47
Speaker 5: Have a great day, buddy.
01:15:47
Speaker 3: You got it. Absolutely.
01:15:49
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:15:49
Speaker 1: I mean, well, they're in, in my mind and I, and I will stand by this. I will, I will absolutely stand by this. There are people who are too immature to be part of the political system. They, they just, they don't, they can't handle themselves. It's, and it's people who have, you know, decided, Oh, I'm going to go shoot somebody.
01:16:12
Speaker 3: I'm going to go do this. I'm going to do that.
01:16:15
Speaker 1: Policy is very nuanced, okay? You're not always going to get everything that you want. You're going to get a little bit of what you want sometimes, and sometimes you have to prevail in a different way. But when people start going down that road, it doesn't make anything better. All it does is it becomes a really nasty approach in that regard. Now, Newt Gingrich was also a very, very adept person who understood how to just to do the things that you had to do to get things.
01:16:58
Speaker 3: To get pushed through.
01:17:01
Speaker 1: But you need to have people that are not going to just go to Washington, D.C. and they want to play. nice guy or anything like that. You've got to be able to do what you've got to do for your side. And, and really it's not even your side. It's for the country. The reality of that is, is the country. And that's why people are, are looking at that kind of, uh, stuff, especially when you, when you sit back here and you say, okay, how are we going to go with this?
01:17:31
Speaker 3: What, what is going to happen? We got some messages coming in here. Uh, Pete, uh, Pete says, wasn't today the day that John Brennan was to testify in front of a Florida grand jury? I don't have that on my score. I'm going to have to check that out.
01:17:54
Speaker 1: I'll defend to you, and I'll say, yeah, probably, if that's the case, then I think you probably have it right there. I think he's basically saying for Republicans to act like the Democrats, right? Yes, Ben, that's that's that's I think what what's going on there.
01:18:10
Speaker 3: I don't.
01:18:13
Speaker 1: How much more smash mouth could it get? A vote for Dems is a vote for Iranian terrorism. Don't let communism take hold in the U.S. Vote right. We are far from the bottom.
01:18:31
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I really think.
01:18:34
Speaker 1: I think we can get way lower. I think we can get much more low. I think there's a lot of opportunity for doing those things. But you have to make a decision at some point. How do you want to run the operation? Do you want to just go in there and do smack?
01:18:50
Speaker 12: Mouth?
01:18:50
Speaker 3: Do you want to try to get stuff done? How do you do that?
01:18:54
Speaker 1: Because if the system ends up, you know, irretrievably broken, then how do we handle things? And that's when you start to see people who are trying to pull this country apart. Most of those people are not like rural people living out in the sticks. They're pretty much— their approach— is pretty much the elite universities, the elite East Coast and West Coast places. The modern day battlefield is being fought on that line. And that's why you see every day, every time you put on a cable channel, it's all in the Northeast area where they're just trying to feed the stuff to you. I don't for the life of me understand why we don't have people who are building, uh, you know, places in the middle of the country, uh, so that they would have places to be able to hear from. Everything is in New York. Everything is in Los Angeles. Everything is in those places. But you have to kind of push this stuff apart because, let's be honest, California, New York, Chicago, those are not representative of the American people.
01:20:28
Speaker 3: Those are radical people. And they love it.
01:20:34
Speaker 1: But there's nothing out here for the folks to grip onto. I mean, look at Fox News. Look at MSNBC. Look at CNN. I mean, you could just look at any of these channels. They're all stuck in that barrier, and you can't get out there. They've got to put together some sort of an operation that is going to work when it comes to being in the middle of the country. And I'll tell you this right now. You watch these cable channels and you see all the country music is playing and that's coming from New York City.
01:21:14
Speaker 3: Why don't you have the.
01:21:16
Speaker 1: Gumption to do it in the middle of the country where the real people live, where the real issues are, where you're not going to have to take a knee or feel uncomfortable because this person wants to tell you that you're a bad person because you're a Christian or you're doing what you're doing.
01:21:42
Speaker 3: They don't want you walking down that block. Why?
01:21:46
Speaker 1: Because it's authentic. And authenticity always rules the day. Show business doesn't. That's just how it goes.
01:21:59
Speaker 2: All right.
01:22:00
Speaker 3: Uh, that's, uh, that, that's, that's, that's my thoughts on, on that.
01:22:03
Speaker 1: We certainly, we will, uh, listen to you for, uh, for your next, uh, segment here, uh, coming up here.
01:22:09
Speaker 3: Um, all.
01:22:17
Speaker 1: Right.
01:22:18
Speaker 3: Welcome back. It's the Brett Witterbull show. Marvin, welcome to the program. What's on your mind, sir? Thank you for shopping for me. Thank you.
01:22:26
Speaker 1: Okay, that was fantastic. Why wasn't it Wegman? I mean, everybody loves the Wegman. Why was it a food lion?
01:22:38
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't understand.
01:22:40
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, I'll take exactly 14 calls on that if you want to.
01:22:45
Speaker 3: I mean, I understand.
01:22:48
Speaker 1: Obviously, I don't know what happened. Marvin, you're welcome to call back at any time and any place.
01:23:00
Speaker 3: Why wasn't it Wegman? The Wegmans, are they still doing it? Are they still together?
01:23:05
Speaker 4: I don't know.
01:23:06
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to you about the thing I offered you. And the offer that I put out for you there was a Neanderthal remains. Maybe the earliest human ancestor find killed by a spear.
01:23:24
Speaker 3: Wait, wait a minute. Adult.
01:23:30
Speaker 1: So this is adult excavated in Iraqi Kurdistan. A guy died 70,000 years ago. And it was a kill shot. See, it was a rough neighborhood back then. I mean, honestly, let's think about this for a second. A smooth, round hole in the shoulder blade of a Neanderthal who died more than 70,000 years ago may be the oldest evidence so far of a human ancestor being killed by a wooden spear.
01:24:13
Speaker 3: That's a lot of factual stuff here.
01:24:17
Speaker 1: This is really kind of cool. So we have a spear. We have 70,000 years ago. He's a human ancestor of ours.
01:24:26
Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll have to check out whoever it was.
01:24:31
Speaker 1: Archaeologists spotted the distinctive injury after excavating skeletal remains of the adult and other Neanderthals from under nearly eight meters of rock and sediment in the Shanidar cave in the Iraqi Kurdistan.
01:24:57
Speaker 2: Okay.
01:24:58
Speaker 3: Can I just make a comment about what I just read?
01:25:02
Speaker 2: Okay. So.
01:25:04
Speaker 3: The Shanidar Cave. Shanidar feels like... That that would be... Some kind of a.
01:25:15
Speaker 3: Of a band. Tonight. For one night only. Shanidar. Shanidar in the cave. It's gonna be incredible. At least... Five Neanderthals were buried in the same spot over several years.
01:25:34
Speaker 5: What?
01:25:35
Speaker 3: You can't give the guy just his own position.
01:25:39
Speaker 1: What's happening here? We got to look at this. What did you say? Did you say that was the mafia? They're, they're, they're, they're burying them. They're burying them in a thing. Is that something was planned? Apparently it was, it was planned. Um, This is just, this is, this is incredible. At least five Neanderthals were buried in the same spot over several years in a depression, no larger than a fridge that ran, that ran behind a huge boulder near an entrance.
01:26:21
Speaker 3: To the cave. I listen, I got, I'm not, I'm not judging. I'm not judging.
01:26:30
Speaker 1: So they decomposed, obviously, right, over that period of time. They were coming back to the same spot to place the bodies over a number of years.
01:26:42
Speaker 3: So that must have been.
01:26:43
Speaker 1: A place that was designated as this is where we put our people to rest.
01:26:49
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to guess that it was something like that.
01:26:53
Speaker 1: I don't think it's something, you know, worse than They were coming back to the same spot to place the bodies over a number of years or several decades.
01:27:05
Speaker 3: So you can choose either one. You can choose either of those options. They have a picture here. It's a cave. It's a cave that you would expect with some stuff in it. And this is one of the things that's interesting. But this is 70,000 years ago. I mean, 70,000 years ago. That's a big.
01:27:25
Speaker 3: Big, big time and place.
01:27:28
Speaker 1: Now they figured out that this was a kill shot directed to the heart. They didn't know necessarily, like if it was accidentally, it happened, like, was it accidental?
01:27:41
Speaker 3: Did it just go off? Can a spear just go off? Is that possible? I don't know.
01:27:46
Speaker 1: It was a shot in anger. It could have been a shot in anger. The spear wound was that would be a good name for a band, by the way, Spear Wound, was almost certainly lethal.
01:28:00
Speaker 3: Well, by now, yes, for sure. I would have to say that.
01:28:04
Speaker 1: But the individual was in bad shape before the fatal blow.
01:28:09
Speaker 3: Probably.
01:28:10
Speaker 1: Examination of the teeth revealed a lower incisor split vertically, leaving only half in place.
01:28:22
Speaker 3: That's rough. They roughed him up. That guy got roughed up. I'm sorry.
01:28:27
Speaker 1: Its neighbors twisted inwards, according to the details published in the uh, scientific reports. So this was a rough, uh, this was a rough go on, on this time. Uh, no doubt about it. This is, uh, interesting, but what I think is so interesting about this, most of all, not, not making a joke about this.
01:28:50
Speaker 3: Is this is 70,000 years ago. And you want to know something even wilder.
01:28:56
Speaker 1: The pointed end of a rounded wooden spear discovered at Clacton-on-Sea in 1911 is the oldest known at over 400,000 years old.
01:29:12
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. That's incredible. And now you know the rest of the Neanderthals. I don't feel safe in this world no more. I don't want to die in a nuclear war.
01:29:28
Speaker 12: I want to sail away to a distant shore and make like an Ip Man.
01:29:33
Speaker 3: No, you know what? There's so much good stuff out there.
01:29:35
Speaker 1: Why?
01:29:36
Speaker 4: Why?
01:29:37
Speaker 10: Oh, boy.
01:29:39
Speaker 3: Guess what? Guess what? Guess what?
01:29:41
Speaker 1: The very interesting piece moving across over the Breitbart platform. Big banks cut off conservatives and... Christian groups, OCC investigation finds, and they're starting to dig deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper.
01:29:59
Speaker 3: This is something. This is something.
01:30:02
Speaker 1: Many of America's biggest banks waged a cancel culture war. People have been talking about that for a number of years. But now you've got the ability to do the investigation in the proper way. Why? Well, because you have a president of the United States who was once debanked, basically, what they tried to do to him in the aftermath of J6. And this is something that I think is particularly an interesting kind of topic, especially if you get into the the nuances and things of that. In addition, we were talking about Ilhan Omar John Binder has a piece over there as well. Report feds seize Ilhan Omar's cell phone in immigration fraud investigation.
01:30:55
Speaker 4: Right.
01:30:56
Speaker 1: This is from earlier today. And this is one of the things that you should be aware of. Goes like this. Ilhan Omar, Democrat from Minnesota, cell phone has been seized by the federal investigators today. as part of the DOJ investigation that is taking place. This week, agents from the Department of Homeland Security and Homeland Security Investigations Unit raided Omar's Washington, D.C. residence after a federal judge approved the search warrant. I keep coming back to that because judges are not in the business of that kind of stuff. Yes, they can do it, but to grab a sitting congresswoman, that's a big thing. And you're going to have to figure out exactly what's going on. Well, at the same time that all of this is happening, we're looking at the raid on Omar's house and the stuff that she's having to talk about, but also at the same time, there is a another group of people who are a part of this, along with the immigration probe into Ilhan Omar, U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro revealed this week that her office has opened a financial investigation into the Congresswoman's position. Perhaps picking up that investigation is that the Biden administration had started into her reported multi-million dollar net worth.
01:32:48
Speaker 2: Yes.
01:32:49
Speaker 3: Let me read that to you again. I'll do it again. It goes like this.
01:32:56
Speaker 1: Jeanine Pirro revealed this week that her office has opened a financial investigation into the congresswoman, perhaps picking up an investigation that the Biden administration had started into her reported multimillion dollars.
01:33:22
Speaker 3: Money. So wait. the Biden administration? What was the Biden administration doing? What was that all about?
01:33:32
Speaker 1: There are several investigations going on, including stuff that probably we have not even heard of yet, because they're trying to figure something out here. And what we're looking at right now, I think, and I'm not a lawyer, but what I'm thinking about with this issue is is what does this look like if there are multiple players in this investigation? That is like a Rico kind of a thing. That's not just, hey, I didn't know what my birthday was. You know, my dad just told me what my birthday was and all that sort of stuff.
01:34:13
Speaker 3: What about the rest of the money that's sloshing around out there? There's obviously some.
01:34:21
Speaker 1: Somebody did something. Somebody did the other thing, whatever it is. But that's a storyline that's going to be moving. And by the way. Think about this for a second. You would be right if you sat back and said, hold on, wait a minute, guys. The United States, the president of the United States and. All of those people that are working are still going to be working regardless of what is coming between now and the end of Donald Trump's administration. And what you have to understand is this.
01:35:02
Speaker 3: That is also an opportunity to see who's doing what, who is connected to who, who is talking to who. What about that? This is not this is not anywhere near going away.
01:35:17
Speaker 1: Because they are going to look at this, and they are going to figure out certain things just coming out of Minnesota. They're going to see a ton of stuff coming out of there, and that's going to be a big deal. And by the way, there's really no effort to stop this regard.
01:35:38
Speaker 3: In fact, the raid itself.
01:35:42
Speaker 1: Well, it may be an effort to try to get rid of abolishing ice.
01:35:48
Speaker 3: Good luck. Not going to happen. I don't think it is.
01:35:51
Speaker 1: That's going to do it for us. We've got break-in with Brett Jensen next. And then we've got, of course, T.J.
01:35:57
Speaker 4: Ritchie.
01:35:58
Speaker 1: And for the rest of the night, enjoy the night. We'll do it all again tomorrow. Enjoy the evening.
01:36:06
Speaker 3: I'm Brett Witterbold. Thanks so much.