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Welcome to Speed Vector, the podcast dedicated
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to the art, risk, and obsession of speed flying.
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I'm your host, Victor Garcia, speed flyer, skydiver,
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cinematographer, Navy veteran, and full -time
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gravity junkie. Every week, we dive into the
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lines we fly, the gear we trust, and the stories
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that push us past the ridge and into the void.
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Whether you're just learning to launch or chasing
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the perfect line, this is where speed flyers
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come to connect, learn, and stoke the fire. This
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is Speed Vector. What is up everybody? How goes
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it out there in the universe of the interwebs?
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This is episode 24 of the Speed Vector podcast.
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I don't have a guest today. This is a solo cast,
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which I haven't done in a long time. I'm not
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as excited to sit here and monologue by myself
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and not have anybody to talk to, but I miss...
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putting out episodes i feel like i've been going
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through withdrawals it's only been like two weeks
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but it feels like months and i don't know why
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um i am working on getting more guests for the
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show lined up it's just tough this time of year
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i mean for me especially because my life is getting
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more busy um busier english goodness and um you
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know work is about to start although for my Pacific
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Northwestern friends and pilots, along with probably
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like, I mean, Oregon, Alaska for sure. Pretty
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much everybody on the West Coast, excluding California.
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It has been a rough couple of weeks of weather.
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I mean, I don't know if anybody, if you guys
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are paying attention to the broader, you know.
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Weather forecast, you know, if you're not listening
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to this in the US, you're probably not. But there
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is a like a atmospheric river from hell that
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is just pummeling Washington right now in parts
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of Oregon. And unfortunately, it's coming from
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like the South Pacific Ocean, like the Southern
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Pacific. It's like pretty much in line with Hawaii,
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where it's kind of coming from. And it's coming
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up, but it's not going quite up into the Alaskan.
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uh, what is it? Goodness. The Gulf of Alaska.
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It's not going high enough into there. So the,
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the weather's it's really warm. I mean, you know,
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where I live average temperature this time of
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year is like in the mid thirties and it's been
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like almost 60 degrees. Like it's been in the
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high fifties the last couple of days. I think
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today is cooled off a little bit. Thankfully
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it's like, you know, 48 degrees or something,
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but The problem with this is that, you know,
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our ski areas, like the place that I patrol at,
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were one of the highest, if not the highest ski
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areas, if you exclude Mount Hood, I think, but
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like the summer Mount Hood ski area, not like
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the winter one, were higher. And the freeze line
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is like at or above our... peak like our summit
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which is like 62 or 6400 feet so i haven't started
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working yet because uh we're not open yet which
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is a huge bummer um but the precipitation that
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has come with this atmospheric river is like
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absurd we got five inches of snow where i work
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in a 24 sorry five inches of rain five inches
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of water right which in snow uh if it was cold
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enough would be like five feet We got five inches
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of water in like 24 hours. And then like the
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next 24 hours, it was like another two inches.
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So if it was cold, man, we'd have like 20 feet
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of snow by now. But unfortunately, it hasn't
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been that cold. We do have a lot of snow. It's
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just not quite enough at the bottom of the mountain
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to open. This podcast isn't about that, though.
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I'm not going to even say where I work because
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I haven't been cleared to talk about predictions
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on when we're going to open. Needless to say,
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I've had some time on my hands. The problem with
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this weather also is that I can't fly because
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it's raining and the wind has been gnarly. I
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did manage to find a little weather window this
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morning and get a little mini soaring session
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in at this local site. It's about 45 minutes
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away from where I live. And that was fun. You
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know, it was fun to get the wing out and play
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in a little bit stronger, you know, wind and
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do some soaring, which is definitely something
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I haven't spent a lot of time on. So but it feels
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good. You know, it feels good to be flying. I
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did ski the other day. Leg felt awesome. And
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yeah, I'm just you know, it's been six months
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almost to the day since I broke my leg and blew
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up my ankle and happy to report that, you know,
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things are things are looking pretty good. So,
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yeah. But anyway, I didn't come on this podcast
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today to talk about myself. I actually if you
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listened. to an episode that was probably a monologue
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months ago. I talked about how I had just picked
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up a fly site. I was still on a cast. Yeah, obviously
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wasn't flying, wasn't doing anything except for
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healing. But I've had some opportunity now to
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put it to the test. I think I've done 20 or 30
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speed flights with the fly site too. And I just
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want to talk about it. for a little while because
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i am pleasantly surprised with how well it works
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for speed flying now is flycypher everybody no
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um i am super into data and uh but i'm not like
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a scientist i just i just like i like data if
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you look um at my logbook or if you were to look
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at it you would notice that like I go into granular
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detail about pretty much the entire flight. One
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of my biggest knocks on my skydiving logbook,
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which, you know, has to be a little bit more
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official because it's, you know, it's skydiving.
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I mean, everything's a little bit more official
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in skydiving just because of the FAA and stuff
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that's involved. But my biggest gripe with that
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book was that I didn't have enough space. to
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like really elaborate on what happened in the
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jump and i really like to get down to the like
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the nitty gritty you know like the finer details
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and really dive into like what happened because
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i look back on it and i'm like cool next time
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i'm gonna do this or yeah i remember how that
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felt i was a little off i'm gonna fix it this
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time um with speed flying i just took like a
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composition book that's graph paper and that's
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what i've been using and um it's uh i've almost
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filled up, you know, the first comp book and
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I'm, you know, just, uh, just barely South of
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500 speed flights now. So, you know, quite a
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bit of writing going on in there. I'd call it
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more of a diary or like a journal, maybe if it's
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a little less lame. Um, but, uh, yeah, it's definitely
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a diary, but anyway, so fly site has given me
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the ability to like, not only feel and see. what
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a specific flight was like right because a little
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tangent here speed flying is very much a visual
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a visual and muscle memory sport like i think
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if you talk to any pilot new or you know professional
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been doing it since the beginning they would
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tell you that like it's really hard to conceptualize
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it and it's hard to like explain it in words
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it's easier to like experience it right which
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i totally agree with i think it's a very muscle
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memory sight picture oriented sport but if you
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combine the muscle memory and sight picture with
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actual like data of what you did in the flight
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and how your wing performed and how you performed
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and the decisions that you made the like fluidity
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of it it's really cool and that's what fly side
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does so I have scratched the surface barely with
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this thing. I mean, it is the amount of stuff
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that you can do is outrageous and I'm still figuring
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it out. So I've got my fly side pulled up here.
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I apologize. I know you guys can't see this.
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I do not have it set up to be seen. But basically
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there's a dropdown menu and you can do, I mean,
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I don't know, three, six, nine, 12. You can do,
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like, 30 different data points, right? So let
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me just read down this a little bit. So you've
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got your elevation. You've got your horizontal
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speed, vertical speed, total speed, your course,
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your course rate, course accuracy. I think that's
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probably more for, like, that's more for wingsuit
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jumps, you know, like out of a plane or in, you
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know, like a base environment. thinking more
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like from a competition standpoint so like maybe
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the comp and I'm a little out over my skis on
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this but like maybe for a skydiving wingsuit
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competition you know there's a set course that's
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invisible right but it's in the sky and like
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it's set and the organizer would then share that
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fly site file with you and you could upload it
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into or sorry downloaded into your fly site and
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then you would have the ability to like fly the
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course because it would somehow tell you i'll
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get into more of what it does but that's probably
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not applicable to speed flying at this point
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but if you go down from there so you've got glide
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ratio dive angle dive rate horizontal accuracy
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vertical accuracy speed accuracy um there's a
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number of satellites, which I don't really know
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what that is other than, you know, it is pinging
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off of stuff as it's going. So probably has something
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to do with that. You've got your acceleration,
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your acceleration local, um, which then goes
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into a sub folder of forward, right down in magnitude.
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Uh, you've got your total energy, energy rate,
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lift coefficient, drag coefficient. And then
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at the bottom, there's a wingsuit. Um, like tab
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and then there's a speed tab speed score accuracy
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so this device was originally made for wingsuiting
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and it was adopted eventually by canopy pilots
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in the skydiving world because of how accurate
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it is even when you're close to the ground which
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is incredible I have been around the top canopy
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pilots in the world in the skydiving world um
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10 10 times maybe and i really pay attention
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to what they do because when i was skydiving
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that was kind of the road i wanted to go down
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um but even since then you know still flying
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parachutes still speed flying um it's there's
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a lot of parallels so i really pay attention
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to how canopy pilots especially on like the top
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end um what they do how they do it why they do
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it right if i have the ability to talk to them
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like i will ask very specific questions um if
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they'll answer them not like how do i do an 810
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but just you know what are you looking for when
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you're rolling out like what's your side picture
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what where are your eyes where where's your where
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your legs what's your body doing what are your
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hands doing you know stuff like that um i noticed
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that all of the top cp pilots in the world were
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running a fly site too and it sparked my interest
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i'm like oh okay well maybe maybe this is something
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that's feasible for the speed flying world uh
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i will say uh expensive experiment because they're
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not cheap they're like three hundred dollars
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i think um you can find them anywhere that skydiving
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stuff is sold so like there's a shooting star
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i think is where i got mine it's just like an
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online skydiving store um the uh the store at
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skydive arizona who also has other locations
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i totally blanking on their name right now um
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uh i forget anyway they've got them in store
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if you're there but also you can order stuff
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online through them um pretty much anywhere like
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skydive superstore i think i think that's one
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i don't know like the folks out in texas uh they've
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got some anyway you you can find them but they're
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like 300 bucks maybe 320 and not not cheap you
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know definitely not cheap definitely an investment
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but i figured why not you know because i'm super
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into the data and i want to get better at this
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and i also don't want to be questioning if i
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have the glide ratio um to get out of something
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you know like if i'm flying in a new location
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say or maybe opening up a new location that has
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terrain that's got stuff that's like mandatory
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like you gotta you gotta get over it you know
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to be safe like that it's the kind of data i'm
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interested in right i really like the glide ratio
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stuff um i want to know what my speeds are like
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speed at the start of a turn speed in the middle
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of the turn speed in the exit what my rollout
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speed is when i'm swooping how fast i'm swooping
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across the ground i use the gopro gps setting
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a couple times and i just it just didn't seem
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accurate right it's like it was kind of all over
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the place sometimes it'd be 60 miles per hour
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flying smaller wings um and the line specifically
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um sometimes it'd be like 40 and i'm talking
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like same condition same day 20 minutes apart
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like in in theory they would be the same and
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there was just a lot of like irregularity there
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so um i have done um a few like, mellow 90s to
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a swoop with the fly side. I haven't been flying
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as aggressively as I was before just because
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I'm just not quite there yet post -injury. And
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it's just mentally, it's been a bit of a challenge
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to start pushing it. So I'm just not. Also flying
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a bigger wing, slower wing. But I will say that
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it was consistent within that day. So, you know,
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I did like two or three mellow 90s. with uh i
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think with like a 15 meter mirage 2rs and uh
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and the mile per hour was like within a few and
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the conditions were the same i was doing the
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same turn um you know of course there's variables
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within myself right like maybe i didn't have
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the same setup whatever but i will say it was
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consistent what's really cool about fly site
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is that you you can take your files off of FlySight,
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like off the device, which has like a bunch of
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storage, by the way, and it doesn't take up a
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lot of space, like per lap, per flight. You can
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use the FlySight viewer, which is kind of like
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what comes, it's free. You know, you can download
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it off the internet. It's like off a Wikipedia
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page. My Mac like freaks out every time I try
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to open it. It's like, this is dangerous. Like
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you don't want to open this. I have to like override
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it, but it's totally fine. It's safe, I promise.
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Um, but you, you know, and basically what that
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spits out is like a graph. So it's, you know,
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just an X, Y axis. And, you know, if you have
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like right now I've got acceleration, glide ratio,
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uh, total speed and elevation pulled up. And
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when I dump my most recent flight into it, all
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of those lines are, are on the same graph. You
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can, so you can do that. You can have everything
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on one. They're all color coordinated. Um, it's
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a little clunky, you know, it's not like the
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smoothest running. It's not like, um, the easiest
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to, to dissect what you're looking at. Like,
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it's just, it's, it, it, it is what it is. It's,
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it's free, you know? Um, but you don't have to
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use that. And it is just like a 2d graph. Like
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it's nothing crazy. It's literally just like
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plots on a chart basically, or plots on a graph.
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And that's what it is. But what you can also
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do is you can take that same file and convert
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it to something. I'm not going to try to misspeak
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here. Let me see. It's a dot KML. So you you
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can convert the raw data into a KML file and
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you can go on to Google Earth and basically like
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there's a way it's actually like super straightforward.
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I'm not super tech savvy. So like if I'm able
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to do it, believe me, you'll be able to do it.
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But you can go on there and you can upload that
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file into Google Earth. And it shows you all
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the same things, except now it's overlaid on
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a like the map. Right. And it's it's like the
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satellite image map. So I basically have one
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project on Google Earth that has all of my fly
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side data on it. And it looks like a heat map.
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Like if you so like some of my. Flying has been
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in Chelan. Some of it's been around where I live.
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Some have been kind of in between those two places.
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And you literally can like zoom out and you can
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see all the places that you've flown. So it's
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really cool. It kind of reminds me of like the
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Strava heat map for any Strava nerds out there.
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There's a heat map with that. It's very similar.
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And it'll like basically like I mean, it's so
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accurate that I've probably done. 15 chalan airport
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ridge flights with the the fly site and i'm launching
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from the same spot and landing in roughly the
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same spot and you can see all 15 flights if it
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intersects it intersects but like there's a difference
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in where they are and they're all it's 3d so
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they're all like floating in space right so i'm
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on the ground when i'm launching and then i'm
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in the air and you can see the line leave the
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ground sometimes it's kind of hard to see like
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you have to kind of move the um like you have
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to move the map like spherically if that makes
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sense so for anybody using computer be like shift
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and then you know grab and move the map around
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but it's not on the ground it is floating in
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space which is super cool and then there's a
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whole other thing that you can do where you can
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actually have it run the flight from start to
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finish at whatever speed you want and you can
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watch as You make turns and you can watch like
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the symmetry of your turns and you can like see
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everything you did. I mean that one of the flights
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I like kind of soared because it was not necessarily
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on purpose. That wasn't my intention, but it
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was just kind of windy and I was flying like
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a 13 meter flame or something, which is a very
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efficient wing and especially in wind. And you
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can see how I like gained a little bit of altitude.
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And then I made a turn and lost it. And I made
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another turn and you can like see all of this.
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And it's really cool. Like it's, it's actually
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like, in my opinion, worth $300 because if you
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want to truly know what your glide ratio is with
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a specific wing on a specific day in a location
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and with, you know, the current conditions, whatever
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they are, like you have that at your fingertips
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and that's super cool. Because, I mean, obviously
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it changes, right? Like density altitude plays
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a factor, what physical altitudes you're at.
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So like, you know, if you're flying in Colorado
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and you're at 5 ,000 feet or 11 ,000 feet, like
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you're, the air is thinner, you know, your wing's
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going to fly differently. It's going to have
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less glide than it would at sea level. Of course,
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that goes without saying. But at least with the
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fly site, you know that your glide ratio at 11
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,000 feet is whatever it is. and your glide ratio
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at 6 000 feet is what it is and then you know
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of course the conditions play a factor like i
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said but it's super cool to have that at your
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fingertips um let's go into the fly site website
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so okay it comes with a bunch of stuff but basically
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they've got like samples of logged data and their
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wingsuit but you can see they have their speed
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and their glide ratio overlaid. So the speed
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is pretty dramatic out of the plane, slowing
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down, and then speeding up when they take a dive,
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and then speeding up when they are building energy
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to go into their flare, and then stops when they
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deploy their parachute. you can see the glide
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ratio throughout which is very cool and um that's
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just two features like like i said right now
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i've got acceleration glide ratio top speed or
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sorry total speed and elevation pulled up so
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it's five basically for four different data points
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within one graph but it doesn't have to be that
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way you know it's a hundred percent customizable
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and that's the part that like i have been struggling
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with because there's just so much um and it's
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such a small little unit too like it's like uh
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let me see yeah i'd say it's like an inch and
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a half by an inch and a half at most and it's
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it doesn't weigh anything it's water resistant
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um it's submersion up to one meter three feet
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for 30 minutes so it's damn near waterproof um
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Oh yeah, here you go. Size 50 millimeters by
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50 millimeters by 17 millimeters. So I don't
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know, whatever that is. Is it an inch? I don't
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know. It might be less. Might be more. There
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is an accelerometer, a gyroscope, a magnometer,
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a barometer. It does humidity and temperature.
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It's got two gigs of storage. Like I said, batteries
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up to six hours of operation time. dimensions
00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.200
water resistant like i said and there there is
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an audio output so like if and this is probably
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more for the skydiving world but you i mean you
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could in theory run this you know with um in
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speed flying you would just need some headphones
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but i know a lot of guys hook them up to their
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audibles like their audible altimeter in uh in
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the skydiving world like in the piloting world
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and even maybe even the wingsuit world i'm sure
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um and it'll actually like talk to you so I don't
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know what it says. I'm sure it's something that
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you'd have to set up. But like I said, I don't
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know how to code. And I don't think you have
00:23:41.539 --> 00:23:43.579
to code anything with this. I think you can just
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like go on their website and find the code that
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you need. Like if you wanted to run audio output
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and just drag and drop it into like somewhere.
00:23:56.700 --> 00:23:59.279
There's a million videos on YouTube and on their
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website that explain how to do like the super
00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:03.750
in the weed stuff. I haven't gotten there yet
00:24:03.750 --> 00:24:06.029
just because it's not really applicable to me
00:24:06.029 --> 00:24:08.390
at this point, but it is something that I'm curious
00:24:08.390 --> 00:24:13.250
about. I'm in no way affiliated with Flyside,
00:24:13.329 --> 00:24:15.210
by the way. I have reached out to them. I'd love
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to get the inventors of it, the creators of it
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on the podcast just to hear their story. And,
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you know, I think that it's super cool. uh, for
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speed flying. I think that like, and, and this
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is coming from someone that like, I flew with
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a Vario a few times because I wanted to like
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data for after to put on Google earth to see
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what I was doing. Um, it just doesn't work. Like,
00:24:40.990 --> 00:24:45.450
to be honest, it, they're not fast enough. Cause
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like, think about it, right? Like a Vario is
00:24:47.630 --> 00:24:50.309
designed for paragliding and for like, you know,
00:24:50.309 --> 00:24:54.869
I don't know, hang gliding. And it's, it's measuring
00:24:54.869 --> 00:24:57.539
like, barometric pressure right so if you're
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going up or you're going down whatever it has
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.319
some gps components but it's not pinging as fast
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:05.480
as the fly site i don't know what the fly site
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:07.980
ping rate is but it's like ridiculous because
00:25:07.980 --> 00:25:11.220
otherwise it would miss stuff like there would
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be gaps in the data and there just isn't which
00:25:13.660 --> 00:25:19.180
blows my mind um excuse me like i said not affiliated
00:25:19.180 --> 00:25:22.740
with them i paid out of pocket for mine um and
00:25:22.740 --> 00:25:26.839
i'm only putting this out there for uh, you guys
00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.019
to just, you know, if you're looking for a way
00:25:30.019 --> 00:25:32.759
to track data and to really get into the weeds
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:35.440
of your flying, this is probably the best bet
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:38.859
right now. There might be some other option that's
00:25:38.859 --> 00:25:41.119
like designed for paragliding that pings faster,
00:25:41.339 --> 00:25:46.500
but it's $300. I don't know what the, um, what
00:25:46.500 --> 00:25:48.519
the going rate is. I'm like a high end Vario,
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:50.720
but like the one that I bought, I think was like
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.359
50 bucks. It's like, And that could be why it
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:55.460
didn't work so well. It wasn't very much money,
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:56.940
you know, and you kind of get what you pay for.
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But in my mind, what FlySight is capable of doing
00:26:01.380 --> 00:26:06.759
is very much more than what it costs. I mean,
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:09.619
I don't think I would have spent like $500 on
00:26:09.619 --> 00:26:14.920
it. Definitely not like $1 ,000. But $300 seems
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.619
reasonable considering how much it actually gives
00:26:17.619 --> 00:26:20.700
you. So to me, it's kind of like if you're at
00:26:20.700 --> 00:26:25.000
all interested, it might be worth it. As far
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:29.319
as installation went, it does come with like
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:32.980
screws and like a base plate for the inside of
00:26:32.980 --> 00:26:35.519
your helmet. It also comes with some really,
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:39.299
really hardcore 3M double sided tape, kind of
00:26:39.299 --> 00:26:43.779
like a GoPro, but more. And that's what I've
00:26:43.779 --> 00:26:45.720
been running. Obviously, if I lose it, that'd
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.420
be a huge bummer. i could drill holes in my helmet
00:26:48.420 --> 00:26:53.339
but i really wasn't sure if i wanted to um i
00:26:53.339 --> 00:26:55.900
might go back and do that now uh just because
00:26:55.900 --> 00:26:59.119
i'm i've got it on my camera flying helmet from
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:03.980
this from skydiving um but you know i mean i
00:27:03.980 --> 00:27:06.000
don't know it's not that big of a deal like if
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.980
you have a drill you can do it right it's not
00:27:07.980 --> 00:27:11.369
it's not like complicated but i just didn't I
00:27:11.369 --> 00:27:12.930
didn't know if I wanted to do it. I think now
00:27:12.930 --> 00:27:14.849
I will just because it's kind of proven itself
00:27:14.849 --> 00:27:16.829
to me. And I think I'm going to keep running
00:27:16.829 --> 00:27:22.349
it for as long as it lasts. But you do have the
00:27:22.349 --> 00:27:25.230
option of just using adhesive 3M, double -sided,
00:27:25.269 --> 00:27:27.970
like super sticky stuff, super sticky tape, or
00:27:27.970 --> 00:27:32.869
drilling. So installation was easy. And then
00:27:32.869 --> 00:27:37.920
I made the mistake one time in Chelan of... turning
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.019
it on and then not turning it off between flights
00:27:41.019 --> 00:27:44.359
it is uh it's really simple there's an on off
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:47.980
button you know you push it it blinks um the
00:27:47.980 --> 00:27:50.500
little green light blinks it's basically looking
00:27:50.500 --> 00:27:54.640
for the satellites when it goes solid green it
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:58.500
is recording and ready to go and then you just
00:27:58.500 --> 00:28:01.700
tap the off switch again and it turns off it
00:28:01.700 --> 00:28:05.160
takes two minutes or so i haven't like measured
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:07.940
it but it's about two minutes i would guess for
00:28:07.940 --> 00:28:09.740
it to actually find the satellites and be ready
00:28:09.740 --> 00:28:13.359
to go um the problem is if you don't turn it
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.740
off it's recording all of it so like i think
00:28:15.740 --> 00:28:17.839
one time i hiked and then like the next lap i
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.640
got a shuttle so when i went to look at the data
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:24.180
it was all screwed up because i you know i went
00:28:24.180 --> 00:28:26.980
70 miles per hour in the car uh in the back of
00:28:26.980 --> 00:28:29.079
the van you know so it picked that up and then
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:32.079
you know the hike it picked up so it just it
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.809
just like dilutes everything and it kind of makes
00:28:34.809 --> 00:28:37.190
it like not accurate right because if you're
00:28:37.190 --> 00:28:40.009
it doesn't know that you're not flying it just
00:28:40.009 --> 00:28:42.630
is recording because that's what it does so if
00:28:42.630 --> 00:28:45.329
you don't turn it off between you might run into
00:28:45.329 --> 00:28:47.329
some issues so just a heads up if anybody does
00:28:47.329 --> 00:28:50.829
get this and um thinks they can just leave it
00:28:50.829 --> 00:28:56.190
on i know a lot of uh canopy pilots and wingsuit
00:28:56.190 --> 00:28:59.109
pilots and stuff turn on on the ground and then
00:28:59.109 --> 00:29:01.730
get in the plane um some turn on in the plane
00:29:02.349 --> 00:29:04.970
I think, uh, the speed flying world, we don't
00:29:04.970 --> 00:29:07.650
have to worry so much about like, you know, interference
00:29:07.650 --> 00:29:10.049
with, you know, it not picking up satellites
00:29:10.049 --> 00:29:12.289
in time, unless you're way out in the middle
00:29:12.289 --> 00:29:14.430
of nowhere. Um, which even then you'd probably
00:29:14.430 --> 00:29:18.509
be fine. It, uh, it probably pays to turn it
00:29:18.509 --> 00:29:23.029
on, you know, right when you get to launch. And
00:29:23.029 --> 00:29:26.190
then when you land, when you take your helmet
00:29:26.190 --> 00:29:30.039
off, right, turn it off. Um, It's just my two
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:31.980
cents. It seems to be working better that way.
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.880
And then like the graphs and the Google Earth
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:36.619
and stuff doesn't get all like screwed up and
00:29:36.619 --> 00:29:39.539
condolented with like random data that isn't
00:29:39.539 --> 00:29:43.240
applicable to the flights. I don't know. That's
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:46.259
up to you guys. But I wish I had like a discount
00:29:46.259 --> 00:29:49.319
code or something for you. I don't. But if you
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do buy a fly site and they ask like where you
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.000
heard about it from, just plug the podcast because
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I am trying to get them on the show. And I would
00:29:59.059 --> 00:30:01.079
love to be affiliated with them because I think
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it's such an awesome piece of kit that is only
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going to help pilots. You know, I haven't done
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:12.460
a barrel roll with one, but I do know that you
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will be able to see the symmetry of the barrel
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roll. You'll be able to see how fast you were
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going in the entrance in mid turn and the exit.
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And I think that that's like super cool. i also
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know that like making bigger turns into swoop
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you'll be able to see how symmetrical they were
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how fast you were turning so like you know if
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you set up slow and then you snap through the
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last 90 like a lot of guys do um kind of how
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you're supposed to to be honest you'll see that
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acceleration and you'll see it tighten up and
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that's just like to me that's like invaluable
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and i think that is why the top guys and gals
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in the cp world are running them because it is
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truly um a piece of kit that you know it exists
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:04.019
right like it's 2025 we have all this technology
00:31:04.019 --> 00:31:06.460
in our hand at our fingertips like why not use
00:31:06.460 --> 00:31:09.619
every available resource to make us better and
00:31:09.619 --> 00:31:13.259
safer pilots emphasis on better pilots right
00:31:13.259 --> 00:31:15.839
it's not all about being safe although that is
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.740
really important of course but just being better
00:31:18.740 --> 00:31:23.490
right because if you if you think you know you
00:31:23.490 --> 00:31:26.109
you do something you think you did it one way
00:31:26.109 --> 00:31:28.549
you see a video an outside video of you doing
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it and you're like oh it didn't feel like that
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at all like it felt completely different like
00:31:32.170 --> 00:31:34.410
i'm shocked that it looked that way you know
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whether good or bad right um the fly side's almost
00:31:38.069 --> 00:31:42.170
like having just data points but from a third
00:31:42.170 --> 00:31:44.589
person view even though it's attached to you
00:31:44.589 --> 00:31:48.250
if that makes sense so anyway I'm going to stop
00:31:48.250 --> 00:31:51.309
ranting about this, but I did want to put out
00:31:51.309 --> 00:31:55.450
an episode about the FlySight just after having
00:31:55.450 --> 00:31:58.750
used it for 30 or so flights. I don't know how
00:31:58.750 --> 00:32:00.490
many I've used. I haven't used it every single
00:32:00.490 --> 00:32:04.890
one of them, but I have a good amount of data
00:32:04.890 --> 00:32:09.569
now from it, and I've learned a lot from it.
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Uh, yeah, man, that's about it. I'm hoping that
00:32:14.380 --> 00:32:16.920
the ski area is open soon. I'm hoping the white
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stuff starts flying here and, um, it is going
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:21.740
to slow down. The podcast is going to slow down
00:32:21.740 --> 00:32:23.359
the winter just because I don't have the same
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:26.880
amount of time that I do in the summer. Um, but
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:30.680
with that being said, if anybody out there is
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:32.799
interested in coming on the show that thinks,
00:32:32.900 --> 00:32:34.940
you know, they have an interesting story or they
00:32:34.940 --> 00:32:36.839
have a certain topic they want to talk about
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.579
and they're um and they're knowledgeable on it
00:32:39.579 --> 00:32:43.200
reach out to me hit me up on instagram and let
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me know because there's only one of me and there's
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.440
a million people out there and i really um sometimes
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.460
struggle finding the right people to have on
00:32:51.460 --> 00:32:54.460
the show i'm not picky you know i mean i do a
00:32:54.460 --> 00:32:55.819
little bit of vetting just to make sure that
00:32:55.819 --> 00:32:59.000
people aren't like you know completely out in
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:00.759
left field and don't know what they're talking
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:03.779
about but um but i'm not opposed to having you
00:33:03.779 --> 00:33:06.099
know newer pilots on either like i think that
00:33:06.569 --> 00:33:08.470
This community is so cool because it's small
00:33:08.470 --> 00:33:14.650
and there is a growing amount of knowledge that's
00:33:14.650 --> 00:33:17.509
coming out on the Internet. And there's a growing
00:33:17.509 --> 00:33:19.869
amount of really experienced pilots that are,
00:33:19.890 --> 00:33:23.569
you know, starting to instruct. And I think that
00:33:23.569 --> 00:33:27.170
it's such a cool time to be alive and be in the
00:33:27.170 --> 00:33:29.470
sport because we're in the golden age. I've said
00:33:29.470 --> 00:33:32.549
this so many times, but like it is truly booming.
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And we're right on the cusp of it going mainstream
00:33:37.980 --> 00:33:39.980
in a certain sense. And not that that's like
00:33:39.980 --> 00:33:43.839
the goal. Right. But it does help. Right. Like
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:47.099
knowledge is power and knowledge is also safer
00:33:47.099 --> 00:33:50.460
piloting and safer piloting means more speed
00:33:50.460 --> 00:33:52.339
flying. Right. And at the end of the day, like
00:33:52.339 --> 00:33:55.500
we just want to fly. You know, I mean, I'm speaking
00:33:55.500 --> 00:33:57.660
for everybody, but like for me, like I just want
00:33:57.660 --> 00:34:00.619
to fly. So how can I do this for as long as possible?
00:34:01.930 --> 00:34:04.190
And leading back to the fly site, I think the
00:34:04.190 --> 00:34:06.369
fly site helps with that. So if it's something
00:34:06.369 --> 00:34:08.409
you're interested in, reach out, let me know,
00:34:08.510 --> 00:34:11.150
you know, like I'm down to have a conversation
00:34:11.150 --> 00:34:13.449
about it. If anybody has any questions, I'm not
00:34:13.449 --> 00:34:16.190
an expert, you know, but I'm not an expert with
00:34:16.190 --> 00:34:20.050
fly site. Right. But I have a decent amount of
00:34:20.050 --> 00:34:23.670
reps with it now to where I can speak on it,
00:34:23.710 --> 00:34:25.949
at least to a certain extent. If you have specific
00:34:25.949 --> 00:34:27.889
questions, let me know. If I don't know, I'll
00:34:27.889 --> 00:34:30.760
tell you. But yeah, anyway. Thanks so much for
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:33.019
listening. Thanks for being here. Appreciate
00:34:33.019 --> 00:34:36.179
all your support. Just surpassed 2000 downloads,
00:34:36.300 --> 00:34:40.699
which is super rad. I'm really fighting the urge
00:34:40.699 --> 00:34:46.159
to add or to turn on advertisements. There's
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:48.280
a way that I can just flip a switch and then
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:51.599
all of a sudden there's random ads playing throughout
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.619
the show. And I just, I don't know, it kind of
00:34:53.619 --> 00:34:55.760
bothers me when I'm listening to a podcast and
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.239
that happens. So I'm trying to avoid it. Um,
00:34:59.380 --> 00:35:01.139
I'm going to push it off for as long as possible.
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.239
If there's any brands out there that want to
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:06.880
sponsor the podcast that are like stoked on it,
00:35:06.940 --> 00:35:10.559
um, reach out, DM me, I'll send you my email
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:12.880
or phone number or whatever. And let's have a
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.340
chat because even though I'm not trying to make
00:35:15.340 --> 00:35:17.820
money off this necessarily money does, you know,
00:35:17.820 --> 00:35:21.659
help push the show forward. So, um, yeah, any,
00:35:21.739 --> 00:35:24.179
any little or big brands out there that want
00:35:24.179 --> 00:35:26.239
to be a part of this, let me know. I'm open to
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:30.630
it. And we'll go from there. But until next time,
00:35:30.650 --> 00:35:34.570
folks, fly safe, have fun and see you out there.
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Peace.
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Welcome to Speed Vector, the podcast dedicated
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to the art, risk, and obsession of speed flying.
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I'm your host, Victor Garcia, speed flyer, skydiver,
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cinematographer, Navy veteran, and full -time
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gravity junkie. Every week, we dive into the
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lines we fly, the gear we trust, and the stories
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that push us past the ridge and into the void.
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Whether you're just learning to launch or chasing
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the perfect line, this is where speed flyers
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come to connect, learn, and stoke the fire. This
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is Speed Vector. What is up everybody? How goes
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it out there in the universe of the interwebs?
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This is episode 24 of the Speed Vector podcast.
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I don't have a guest today. This is a solo cast,
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which I haven't done in a long time. I'm not
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as excited to sit here and monologue by myself
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and not have anybody to talk to, but I miss...
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putting out episodes i feel like i've been going
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through withdrawals it's only been like two weeks
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but it feels like months and i don't know why
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um i am working on getting more guests for the
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show lined up it's just tough this time of year
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i mean for me especially because my life is getting
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more busy um busier english goodness and um you
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know work is about to start although for my Pacific
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Northwestern friends and pilots, along with probably
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like, I mean, Oregon, Alaska for sure. Pretty
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much everybody on the West Coast, excluding California.
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It has been a rough couple of weeks of weather.
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I mean, I don't know if anybody, if you guys
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are paying attention to the broader, you know.
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Weather forecast, you know, if you're not listening
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to this in the US, you're probably not. But there
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is a like a atmospheric river from hell that
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is just pummeling Washington right now in parts
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of Oregon. And unfortunately, it's coming from
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like the South Pacific Ocean, like the Southern
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Pacific. It's like pretty much in line with Hawaii,
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where it's kind of coming from. And it's coming
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up, but it's not going quite up into the Alaskan.
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uh, what is it? Goodness. The Gulf of Alaska.
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It's not going high enough into there. So the,
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the weather's it's really warm. I mean, you know,
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where I live average temperature this time of
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year is like in the mid thirties and it's been
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like almost 60 degrees. Like it's been in the
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high fifties the last couple of days. I think
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today is cooled off a little bit. Thankfully
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it's like, you know, 48 degrees or something,
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but The problem with this is that, you know,
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our ski areas, like the place that I patrol at,
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were one of the highest, if not the highest ski
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areas, if you exclude Mount Hood, I think, but
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like the summer Mount Hood ski area, not like
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the winter one, were higher. And the freeze line
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is like at or above our... peak like our summit
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which is like 62 or 6400 feet so i haven't started
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working yet because uh we're not open yet which
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is a huge bummer um but the precipitation that
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has come with this atmospheric river is like
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absurd we got five inches of snow where i work
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in a 24 sorry five inches of rain five inches
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of water right which in snow uh if it was cold
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enough would be like five feet We got five inches
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of water in like 24 hours. And then like the
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next 24 hours, it was like another two inches.
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So if it was cold, man, we'd have like 20 feet
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of snow by now. But unfortunately, it hasn't
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been that cold. We do have a lot of snow. It's
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just not quite enough at the bottom of the mountain
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to open. This podcast isn't about that, though.
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I'm not going to even say where I work because
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I haven't been cleared to talk about predictions
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on when we're going to open. Needless to say,
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I've had some time on my hands. The problem with
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this weather also is that I can't fly because
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it's raining and the wind has been gnarly. I
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did manage to find a little weather window this
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morning and get a little mini soaring session
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in at this local site. It's about 45 minutes
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away from where I live. And that was fun. You
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know, it was fun to get the wing out and play
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in a little bit stronger, you know, wind and
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do some soaring, which is definitely something
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I haven't spent a lot of time on. So but it feels
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good. You know, it feels good to be flying. I
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did ski the other day. Leg felt awesome. And
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yeah, I'm just you know, it's been six months
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almost to the day since I broke my leg and blew
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up my ankle and happy to report that, you know,
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things are things are looking pretty good. So,
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yeah. But anyway, I didn't come on this podcast
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today to talk about myself. I actually if you
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listened. to an episode that was probably a monologue
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months ago. I talked about how I had just picked
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up a fly site. I was still on a cast. Yeah, obviously
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wasn't flying, wasn't doing anything except for
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healing. But I've had some opportunity now to
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put it to the test. I think I've done 20 or 30
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speed flights with the fly site too. And I just
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want to talk about it. for a little while because
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i am pleasantly surprised with how well it works
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for speed flying now is flycypher everybody no
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um i am super into data and uh but i'm not like
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a scientist i just i just like i like data if
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you look um at my logbook or if you were to look
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at it you would notice that like I go into granular
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detail about pretty much the entire flight. One
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of my biggest knocks on my skydiving logbook,
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which, you know, has to be a little bit more
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official because it's, you know, it's skydiving.
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I mean, everything's a little bit more official
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in skydiving just because of the FAA and stuff
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that's involved. But my biggest gripe with that
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book was that I didn't have enough space. to
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like really elaborate on what happened in the
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jump and i really like to get down to the like
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the nitty gritty you know like the finer details
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and really dive into like what happened because
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i look back on it and i'm like cool next time
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i'm gonna do this or yeah i remember how that
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felt i was a little off i'm gonna fix it this
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time um with speed flying i just took like a
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composition book that's graph paper and that's
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what i've been using and um it's uh i've almost
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filled up, you know, the first comp book and
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I'm, you know, just, uh, just barely South of
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500 speed flights now. So, you know, quite a
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bit of writing going on in there. I'd call it
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more of a diary or like a journal, maybe if it's
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a little less lame. Um, but, uh, yeah, it's definitely
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a diary, but anyway, so fly site has given me
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the ability to like, not only feel and see. what
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a specific flight was like right because a little
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tangent here speed flying is very much a visual
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a visual and muscle memory sport like i think
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if you talk to any pilot new or you know professional
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been doing it since the beginning they would
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tell you that like it's really hard to conceptualize
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it and it's hard to like explain it in words
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it's easier to like experience it right which
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i totally agree with i think it's a very muscle
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memory sight picture oriented sport but if you
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combine the muscle memory and sight picture with
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actual like data of what you did in the flight
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and how your wing performed and how you performed
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and the decisions that you made the like fluidity
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of it it's really cool and that's what fly side
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does so I have scratched the surface barely with
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this thing. I mean, it is the amount of stuff
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that you can do is outrageous and I'm still figuring
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it out. So I've got my fly side pulled up here.
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I apologize. I know you guys can't see this.
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I do not have it set up to be seen. But basically
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there's a dropdown menu and you can do, I mean,
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I don't know, three, six, nine, 12. You can do,
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like, 30 different data points, right? So let
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me just read down this a little bit. So you've
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got your elevation. You've got your horizontal
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speed, vertical speed, total speed, your course,
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your course rate, course accuracy. I think that's
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probably more for, like, that's more for wingsuit
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jumps, you know, like out of a plane or in, you
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know, like a base environment. thinking more
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like from a competition standpoint so like maybe
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the comp and I'm a little out over my skis on
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this but like maybe for a skydiving wingsuit
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competition you know there's a set course that's
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invisible right but it's in the sky and like
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it's set and the organizer would then share that
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fly site file with you and you could upload it
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into or sorry downloaded into your fly site and
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then you would have the ability to like fly the
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course because it would somehow tell you i'll
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get into more of what it does but that's probably
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not applicable to speed flying at this point
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but if you go down from there so you've got glide
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ratio dive angle dive rate horizontal accuracy
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vertical accuracy speed accuracy um there's a
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number of satellites, which I don't really know
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what that is other than, you know, it is pinging
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off of stuff as it's going. So probably has something
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to do with that. You've got your acceleration,
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your acceleration local, um, which then goes
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into a sub folder of forward, right down in magnitude.
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Uh, you've got your total energy, energy rate,
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lift coefficient, drag coefficient. And then
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at the bottom, there's a wingsuit. Um, like tab
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and then there's a speed tab speed score accuracy
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so this device was originally made for wingsuiting
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and it was adopted eventually by canopy pilots
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in the skydiving world because of how accurate
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it is even when you're close to the ground which
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is incredible I have been around the top canopy
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pilots in the world in the skydiving world um
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10 10 times maybe and i really pay attention
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to what they do because when i was skydiving
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that was kind of the road i wanted to go down
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um but even since then you know still flying
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parachutes still speed flying um it's there's
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a lot of parallels so i really pay attention
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to how canopy pilots especially on like the top
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end um what they do how they do it why they do
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it right if i have the ability to talk to them
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like i will ask very specific questions um if
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they'll answer them not like how do i do an 810
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but just you know what are you looking for when
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you're rolling out like what's your side picture
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what where are your eyes where where's your where
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your legs what's your body doing what are your
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hands doing you know stuff like that um i noticed
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that all of the top cp pilots in the world were
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running a fly site too and it sparked my interest
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i'm like oh okay well maybe maybe this is something
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that's feasible for the speed flying world uh
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i will say uh expensive experiment because they're
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not cheap they're like three hundred dollars
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i think um you can find them anywhere that skydiving
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stuff is sold so like there's a shooting star
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i think is where i got mine it's just like an
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online skydiving store um the uh the store at
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skydive arizona who also has other locations
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i totally blanking on their name right now um
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uh i forget anyway they've got them in store
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if you're there but also you can order stuff
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online through them um pretty much anywhere like
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skydive superstore i think i think that's one
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i don't know like the folks out in texas uh they've
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got some anyway you you can find them but they're
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like 300 bucks maybe 320 and not not cheap you
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know definitely not cheap definitely an investment
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but i figured why not you know because i'm super
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into the data and i want to get better at this
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and i also don't want to be questioning if i
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have the glide ratio um to get out of something
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you know like if i'm flying in a new location
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say or maybe opening up a new location that has
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terrain that's got stuff that's like mandatory
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like you gotta you gotta get over it you know
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to be safe like that it's the kind of data i'm
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interested in right i really like the glide ratio
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stuff um i want to know what my speeds are like
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speed at the start of a turn speed in the middle
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of the turn speed in the exit what my rollout
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speed is when i'm swooping how fast i'm swooping
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across the ground i use the gopro gps setting
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a couple times and i just it just didn't seem
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accurate right it's like it was kind of all over
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the place sometimes it'd be 60 miles per hour
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flying smaller wings um and the line specifically
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um sometimes it'd be like 40 and i'm talking
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like same condition same day 20 minutes apart
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like in in theory they would be the same and
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there was just a lot of like irregularity there
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so um i have done um a few like, mellow 90s to
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a swoop with the fly side. I haven't been flying
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as aggressively as I was before just because
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I'm just not quite there yet post -injury. And
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it's just mentally, it's been a bit of a challenge
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to start pushing it. So I'm just not. Also flying
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a bigger wing, slower wing. But I will say that
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it was consistent within that day. So, you know,
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I did like two or three mellow 90s. with uh i
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think with like a 15 meter mirage 2rs and uh
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and the mile per hour was like within a few and
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the conditions were the same i was doing the
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same turn um you know of course there's variables
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within myself right like maybe i didn't have
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the same setup whatever but i will say it was
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consistent what's really cool about fly site
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is that you you can take your files off of FlySight,
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like off the device, which has like a bunch of
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storage, by the way, and it doesn't take up a
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lot of space, like per lap, per flight. You can
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use the FlySight viewer, which is kind of like
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what comes, it's free. You know, you can download
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it off the internet. It's like off a Wikipedia
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page. My Mac like freaks out every time I try
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to open it. It's like, this is dangerous. Like
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you don't want to open this. I have to like override
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it, but it's totally fine. It's safe, I promise.
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Um, but you, you know, and basically what that
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spits out is like a graph. So it's, you know,
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just an X, Y axis. And, you know, if you have
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like right now I've got acceleration, glide ratio,
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uh, total speed and elevation pulled up. And
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when I dump my most recent flight into it, all
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of those lines are, are on the same graph. You
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can, so you can do that. You can have everything
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on one. They're all color coordinated. Um, it's
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a little clunky, you know, it's not like the
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smoothest running. It's not like, um, the easiest
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to, to dissect what you're looking at. Like,
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it's just, it's, it, it, it is what it is. It's,
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it's free, you know? Um, but you don't have to
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use that. And it is just like a 2d graph. Like
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it's nothing crazy. It's literally just like
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plots on a chart basically, or plots on a graph.
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And that's what it is. But what you can also
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do is you can take that same file and convert
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it to something. I'm not going to try to misspeak
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here. Let me see. It's a dot KML. So you you
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can convert the raw data into a KML file and
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you can go on to Google Earth and basically like
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there's a way it's actually like super straightforward.
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I'm not super tech savvy. So like if I'm able
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to do it, believe me, you'll be able to do it.
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But you can go on there and you can upload that
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file into Google Earth. And it shows you all
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the same things, except now it's overlaid on
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a like the map. Right. And it's it's like the
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satellite image map. So I basically have one
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project on Google Earth that has all of my fly
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side data on it. And it looks like a heat map.
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Like if you so like some of my. Flying has been
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in Chelan. Some of it's been around where I live.
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Some have been kind of in between those two places.
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And you literally can like zoom out and you can
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see all the places that you've flown. So it's
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really cool. It kind of reminds me of like the
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Strava heat map for any Strava nerds out there.
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There's a heat map with that. It's very similar.
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And it'll like basically like I mean, it's so
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accurate that I've probably done. 15 chalan airport
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ridge flights with the the fly site and i'm launching
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from the same spot and landing in roughly the
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same spot and you can see all 15 flights if it
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intersects it intersects but like there's a difference
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in where they are and they're all it's 3d so
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they're all like floating in space right so i'm
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on the ground when i'm launching and then i'm
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in the air and you can see the line leave the
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ground sometimes it's kind of hard to see like
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you have to kind of move the um like you have
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to move the map like spherically if that makes
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sense so for anybody using computer be like shift
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and then you know grab and move the map around
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but it's not on the ground it is floating in
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space which is super cool and then there's a
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whole other thing that you can do where you can
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actually have it run the flight from start to
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finish at whatever speed you want and you can
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watch as You make turns and you can watch like
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the symmetry of your turns and you can like see
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everything you did. I mean that one of the flights
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I like kind of soared because it was not necessarily
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on purpose. That wasn't my intention, but it
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was just kind of windy and I was flying like
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a 13 meter flame or something, which is a very
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efficient wing and especially in wind. And you
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can see how I like gained a little bit of altitude.
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And then I made a turn and lost it. And I made
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another turn and you can like see all of this.
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And it's really cool. Like it's, it's actually
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like, in my opinion, worth $300 because if you
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want to truly know what your glide ratio is with
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a specific wing on a specific day in a location
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and with, you know, the current conditions, whatever
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they are, like you have that at your fingertips
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and that's super cool. Because, I mean, obviously
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it changes, right? Like density altitude plays
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a factor, what physical altitudes you're at.
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So like, you know, if you're flying in Colorado
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and you're at 5 ,000 feet or 11 ,000 feet, like
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you're, the air is thinner, you know, your wing's
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going to fly differently. It's going to have
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less glide than it would at sea level. Of course,
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that goes without saying. But at least with the
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fly site, you know that your glide ratio at 11
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,000 feet is whatever it is. and your glide ratio
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at 6 000 feet is what it is and then you know
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of course the conditions play a factor like i
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said but it's super cool to have that at your
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fingertips um let's go into the fly site website
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so okay it comes with a bunch of stuff but basically
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they've got like samples of logged data and their
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wingsuit but you can see they have their speed
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and their glide ratio overlaid. So the speed
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is pretty dramatic out of the plane, slowing
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down, and then speeding up when they take a dive,
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and then speeding up when they are building energy
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to go into their flare, and then stops when they
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deploy their parachute. you can see the glide
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ratio throughout which is very cool and um that's
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just two features like like i said right now
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i've got acceleration glide ratio top speed or
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sorry total speed and elevation pulled up so
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it's five basically for four different data points
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within one graph but it doesn't have to be that
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way you know it's a hundred percent customizable
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and that's the part that like i have been struggling
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with because there's just so much um and it's
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such a small little unit too like it's like uh
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let me see yeah i'd say it's like an inch and
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a half by an inch and a half at most and it's
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it doesn't weigh anything it's water resistant
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um it's submersion up to one meter three feet
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for 30 minutes so it's damn near waterproof um
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Oh yeah, here you go. Size 50 millimeters by
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50 millimeters by 17 millimeters. So I don't
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know, whatever that is. Is it an inch? I don't
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know. It might be less. Might be more. There
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is an accelerometer, a gyroscope, a magnometer,
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a barometer. It does humidity and temperature.
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It's got two gigs of storage. Like I said, batteries
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up to six hours of operation time. dimensions
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water resistant like i said and there there is
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an audio output so like if and this is probably
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more for the skydiving world but you i mean you
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could in theory run this you know with um in
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speed flying you would just need some headphones
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but i know a lot of guys hook them up to their
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audibles like their audible altimeter in uh in
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the skydiving world like in the piloting world
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and even maybe even the wingsuit world i'm sure
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um and it'll actually like talk to you so I don't
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know what it says. I'm sure it's something that
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you'd have to set up. But like I said, I don't
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know how to code. And I don't think you have
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to code anything with this. I think you can just
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like go on their website and find the code that
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you need. Like if you wanted to run audio output
00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:56.539
and just drag and drop it into like somewhere.
00:23:56.700 --> 00:23:59.279
There's a million videos on YouTube and on their
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website that explain how to do like the super
00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:03.750
in the weed stuff. I haven't gotten there yet
00:24:03.750 --> 00:24:06.029
just because it's not really applicable to me
00:24:06.029 --> 00:24:08.390
at this point, but it is something that I'm curious
00:24:08.390 --> 00:24:13.250
about. I'm in no way affiliated with Flyside,
00:24:13.329 --> 00:24:15.210
by the way. I have reached out to them. I'd love
00:24:15.210 --> 00:24:18.569
to get the inventors of it, the creators of it
00:24:18.569 --> 00:24:21.309
on the podcast just to hear their story. And,
00:24:21.309 --> 00:24:26.630
you know, I think that it's super cool. uh, for
00:24:26.630 --> 00:24:29.349
speed flying. I think that like, and, and this
00:24:29.349 --> 00:24:31.089
is coming from someone that like, I flew with
00:24:31.089 --> 00:24:34.349
a Vario a few times because I wanted to like
00:24:34.349 --> 00:24:37.710
data for after to put on Google earth to see
00:24:37.710 --> 00:24:40.910
what I was doing. Um, it just doesn't work. Like,
00:24:40.990 --> 00:24:45.450
to be honest, it, they're not fast enough. Cause
00:24:45.450 --> 00:24:47.630
like, think about it, right? Like a Vario is
00:24:47.630 --> 00:24:50.309
designed for paragliding and for like, you know,
00:24:50.309 --> 00:24:54.869
I don't know, hang gliding. And it's, it's measuring
00:24:54.869 --> 00:24:57.539
like, barometric pressure right so if you're
00:24:57.539 --> 00:25:00.200
going up or you're going down whatever it has
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.319
some gps components but it's not pinging as fast
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:05.480
as the fly site i don't know what the fly site
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:07.980
ping rate is but it's like ridiculous because
00:25:07.980 --> 00:25:11.220
otherwise it would miss stuff like there would
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be gaps in the data and there just isn't which
00:25:13.660 --> 00:25:19.180
blows my mind um excuse me like i said not affiliated
00:25:19.180 --> 00:25:22.740
with them i paid out of pocket for mine um and
00:25:22.740 --> 00:25:26.839
i'm only putting this out there for uh, you guys
00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.019
to just, you know, if you're looking for a way
00:25:30.019 --> 00:25:32.759
to track data and to really get into the weeds
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:35.440
of your flying, this is probably the best bet
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:38.859
right now. There might be some other option that's
00:25:38.859 --> 00:25:41.119
like designed for paragliding that pings faster,
00:25:41.339 --> 00:25:46.500
but it's $300. I don't know what the, um, what
00:25:46.500 --> 00:25:48.519
the going rate is. I'm like a high end Vario,
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:50.720
but like the one that I bought, I think was like
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.359
50 bucks. It's like, And that could be why it
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:55.460
didn't work so well. It wasn't very much money,
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:56.940
you know, and you kind of get what you pay for.
00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:01.380
But in my mind, what FlySight is capable of doing
00:26:01.380 --> 00:26:06.759
is very much more than what it costs. I mean,
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:09.619
I don't think I would have spent like $500 on
00:26:09.619 --> 00:26:14.920
it. Definitely not like $1 ,000. But $300 seems
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.619
reasonable considering how much it actually gives
00:26:17.619 --> 00:26:20.700
you. So to me, it's kind of like if you're at
00:26:20.700 --> 00:26:25.000
all interested, it might be worth it. As far
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:29.319
as installation went, it does come with like
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:32.980
screws and like a base plate for the inside of
00:26:32.980 --> 00:26:35.519
your helmet. It also comes with some really,
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:39.299
really hardcore 3M double sided tape, kind of
00:26:39.299 --> 00:26:43.779
like a GoPro, but more. And that's what I've
00:26:43.779 --> 00:26:45.720
been running. Obviously, if I lose it, that'd
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.420
be a huge bummer. i could drill holes in my helmet
00:26:48.420 --> 00:26:53.339
but i really wasn't sure if i wanted to um i
00:26:53.339 --> 00:26:55.900
might go back and do that now uh just because
00:26:55.900 --> 00:26:59.119
i'm i've got it on my camera flying helmet from
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:03.980
this from skydiving um but you know i mean i
00:27:03.980 --> 00:27:06.000
don't know it's not that big of a deal like if
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.980
you have a drill you can do it right it's not
00:27:07.980 --> 00:27:11.369
it's not like complicated but i just didn't I
00:27:11.369 --> 00:27:12.930
didn't know if I wanted to do it. I think now
00:27:12.930 --> 00:27:14.849
I will just because it's kind of proven itself
00:27:14.849 --> 00:27:16.829
to me. And I think I'm going to keep running
00:27:16.829 --> 00:27:22.349
it for as long as it lasts. But you do have the
00:27:22.349 --> 00:27:25.230
option of just using adhesive 3M, double -sided,
00:27:25.269 --> 00:27:27.970
like super sticky stuff, super sticky tape, or
00:27:27.970 --> 00:27:32.869
drilling. So installation was easy. And then
00:27:32.869 --> 00:27:37.920
I made the mistake one time in Chelan of... turning
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.019
it on and then not turning it off between flights
00:27:41.019 --> 00:27:44.359
it is uh it's really simple there's an on off
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:47.980
button you know you push it it blinks um the
00:27:47.980 --> 00:27:50.500
little green light blinks it's basically looking
00:27:50.500 --> 00:27:54.640
for the satellites when it goes solid green it
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:58.500
is recording and ready to go and then you just
00:27:58.500 --> 00:28:01.700
tap the off switch again and it turns off it
00:28:01.700 --> 00:28:05.160
takes two minutes or so i haven't like measured
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:07.940
it but it's about two minutes i would guess for
00:28:07.940 --> 00:28:09.740
it to actually find the satellites and be ready
00:28:09.740 --> 00:28:13.359
to go um the problem is if you don't turn it
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.740
off it's recording all of it so like i think
00:28:15.740 --> 00:28:17.839
one time i hiked and then like the next lap i
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.640
got a shuttle so when i went to look at the data
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:24.180
it was all screwed up because i you know i went
00:28:24.180 --> 00:28:26.980
70 miles per hour in the car uh in the back of
00:28:26.980 --> 00:28:29.079
the van you know so it picked that up and then
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:32.079
you know the hike it picked up so it just it
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.809
just like dilutes everything and it kind of makes
00:28:34.809 --> 00:28:37.190
it like not accurate right because if you're
00:28:37.190 --> 00:28:40.009
it doesn't know that you're not flying it just
00:28:40.009 --> 00:28:42.630
is recording because that's what it does so if
00:28:42.630 --> 00:28:45.329
you don't turn it off between you might run into
00:28:45.329 --> 00:28:47.329
some issues so just a heads up if anybody does
00:28:47.329 --> 00:28:50.829
get this and um thinks they can just leave it
00:28:50.829 --> 00:28:56.190
on i know a lot of uh canopy pilots and wingsuit
00:28:56.190 --> 00:28:59.109
pilots and stuff turn on on the ground and then
00:28:59.109 --> 00:29:01.730
get in the plane um some turn on in the plane
00:29:02.349 --> 00:29:04.970
I think, uh, the speed flying world, we don't
00:29:04.970 --> 00:29:07.650
have to worry so much about like, you know, interference
00:29:07.650 --> 00:29:10.049
with, you know, it not picking up satellites
00:29:10.049 --> 00:29:12.289
in time, unless you're way out in the middle
00:29:12.289 --> 00:29:14.430
of nowhere. Um, which even then you'd probably
00:29:14.430 --> 00:29:18.509
be fine. It, uh, it probably pays to turn it
00:29:18.509 --> 00:29:23.029
on, you know, right when you get to launch. And
00:29:23.029 --> 00:29:26.190
then when you land, when you take your helmet
00:29:26.190 --> 00:29:30.039
off, right, turn it off. Um, It's just my two
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:31.980
cents. It seems to be working better that way.
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.880
And then like the graphs and the Google Earth
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:36.619
and stuff doesn't get all like screwed up and
00:29:36.619 --> 00:29:39.539
condolented with like random data that isn't
00:29:39.539 --> 00:29:43.240
applicable to the flights. I don't know. That's
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:46.259
up to you guys. But I wish I had like a discount
00:29:46.259 --> 00:29:49.319
code or something for you. I don't. But if you
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:53.559
do buy a fly site and they ask like where you
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.000
heard about it from, just plug the podcast because
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.059
I am trying to get them on the show. And I would
00:29:59.059 --> 00:30:01.079
love to be affiliated with them because I think
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:05.299
it's such an awesome piece of kit that is only
00:30:05.299 --> 00:30:08.759
going to help pilots. You know, I haven't done
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:12.460
a barrel roll with one, but I do know that you
00:30:12.460 --> 00:30:15.480
will be able to see the symmetry of the barrel
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.940
roll. You'll be able to see how fast you were
00:30:18.940 --> 00:30:21.880
going in the entrance in mid turn and the exit.
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:25.980
And I think that that's like super cool. i also
00:30:25.980 --> 00:30:28.880
know that like making bigger turns into swoop
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:32.119
you'll be able to see how symmetrical they were
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:35.480
how fast you were turning so like you know if
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:37.759
you set up slow and then you snap through the
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.539
last 90 like a lot of guys do um kind of how
00:30:41.539 --> 00:30:44.660
you're supposed to to be honest you'll see that
00:30:44.660 --> 00:30:47.039
acceleration and you'll see it tighten up and
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:48.759
that's just like to me that's like invaluable
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.400
and i think that is why the top guys and gals
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.220
in the cp world are running them because it is
00:30:56.220 --> 00:31:00.720
truly um a piece of kit that you know it exists
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:04.019
right like it's 2025 we have all this technology
00:31:04.019 --> 00:31:06.460
in our hand at our fingertips like why not use
00:31:06.460 --> 00:31:09.619
every available resource to make us better and
00:31:09.619 --> 00:31:13.259
safer pilots emphasis on better pilots right
00:31:13.259 --> 00:31:15.839
it's not all about being safe although that is
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.740
really important of course but just being better
00:31:18.740 --> 00:31:23.490
right because if you if you think you know you
00:31:23.490 --> 00:31:26.109
you do something you think you did it one way
00:31:26.109 --> 00:31:28.549
you see a video an outside video of you doing
00:31:28.549 --> 00:31:30.250
it and you're like oh it didn't feel like that
00:31:30.250 --> 00:31:32.170
at all like it felt completely different like
00:31:32.170 --> 00:31:34.410
i'm shocked that it looked that way you know
00:31:34.410 --> 00:31:38.069
whether good or bad right um the fly side's almost
00:31:38.069 --> 00:31:42.170
like having just data points but from a third
00:31:42.170 --> 00:31:44.589
person view even though it's attached to you
00:31:44.589 --> 00:31:48.250
if that makes sense so anyway I'm going to stop
00:31:48.250 --> 00:31:51.309
ranting about this, but I did want to put out
00:31:51.309 --> 00:31:55.450
an episode about the FlySight just after having
00:31:55.450 --> 00:31:58.750
used it for 30 or so flights. I don't know how
00:31:58.750 --> 00:32:00.490
many I've used. I haven't used it every single
00:32:00.490 --> 00:32:04.890
one of them, but I have a good amount of data
00:32:04.890 --> 00:32:09.569
now from it, and I've learned a lot from it.
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:14.380
Uh, yeah, man, that's about it. I'm hoping that
00:32:14.380 --> 00:32:16.920
the ski area is open soon. I'm hoping the white
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.920
stuff starts flying here and, um, it is going
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:21.740
to slow down. The podcast is going to slow down
00:32:21.740 --> 00:32:23.359
the winter just because I don't have the same
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:26.880
amount of time that I do in the summer. Um, but
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:30.680
with that being said, if anybody out there is
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:32.799
interested in coming on the show that thinks,
00:32:32.900 --> 00:32:34.940
you know, they have an interesting story or they
00:32:34.940 --> 00:32:36.839
have a certain topic they want to talk about
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.579
and they're um and they're knowledgeable on it
00:32:39.579 --> 00:32:43.200
reach out to me hit me up on instagram and let
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.200
me know because there's only one of me and there's
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.440
a million people out there and i really um sometimes
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.460
struggle finding the right people to have on
00:32:51.460 --> 00:32:54.460
the show i'm not picky you know i mean i do a
00:32:54.460 --> 00:32:55.819
little bit of vetting just to make sure that
00:32:55.819 --> 00:32:59.000
people aren't like you know completely out in
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:00.759
left field and don't know what they're talking
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:03.779
about but um but i'm not opposed to having you
00:33:03.779 --> 00:33:06.099
know newer pilots on either like i think that
00:33:06.569 --> 00:33:08.470
This community is so cool because it's small
00:33:08.470 --> 00:33:14.650
and there is a growing amount of knowledge that's
00:33:14.650 --> 00:33:17.509
coming out on the Internet. And there's a growing
00:33:17.509 --> 00:33:19.869
amount of really experienced pilots that are,
00:33:19.890 --> 00:33:23.569
you know, starting to instruct. And I think that
00:33:23.569 --> 00:33:27.170
it's such a cool time to be alive and be in the
00:33:27.170 --> 00:33:29.470
sport because we're in the golden age. I've said
00:33:29.470 --> 00:33:32.549
this so many times, but like it is truly booming.
00:33:33.619 --> 00:33:37.980
And we're right on the cusp of it going mainstream
00:33:37.980 --> 00:33:39.980
in a certain sense. And not that that's like
00:33:39.980 --> 00:33:43.839
the goal. Right. But it does help. Right. Like
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:47.099
knowledge is power and knowledge is also safer
00:33:47.099 --> 00:33:50.460
piloting and safer piloting means more speed
00:33:50.460 --> 00:33:52.339
flying. Right. And at the end of the day, like
00:33:52.339 --> 00:33:55.500
we just want to fly. You know, I mean, I'm speaking
00:33:55.500 --> 00:33:57.660
for everybody, but like for me, like I just want
00:33:57.660 --> 00:34:00.619
to fly. So how can I do this for as long as possible?
00:34:01.930 --> 00:34:04.190
And leading back to the fly site, I think the
00:34:04.190 --> 00:34:06.369
fly site helps with that. So if it's something
00:34:06.369 --> 00:34:08.409
you're interested in, reach out, let me know,
00:34:08.510 --> 00:34:11.150
you know, like I'm down to have a conversation
00:34:11.150 --> 00:34:13.449
about it. If anybody has any questions, I'm not
00:34:13.449 --> 00:34:16.190
an expert, you know, but I'm not an expert with
00:34:16.190 --> 00:34:20.050
fly site. Right. But I have a decent amount of
00:34:20.050 --> 00:34:23.670
reps with it now to where I can speak on it,
00:34:23.710 --> 00:34:25.949
at least to a certain extent. If you have specific
00:34:25.949 --> 00:34:27.889
questions, let me know. If I don't know, I'll
00:34:27.889 --> 00:34:30.760
tell you. But yeah, anyway. Thanks so much for
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:33.019
listening. Thanks for being here. Appreciate
00:34:33.019 --> 00:34:36.179
all your support. Just surpassed 2000 downloads,
00:34:36.300 --> 00:34:40.699
which is super rad. I'm really fighting the urge
00:34:40.699 --> 00:34:46.159
to add or to turn on advertisements. There's
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:48.280
a way that I can just flip a switch and then
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:51.599
all of a sudden there's random ads playing throughout
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.619
the show. And I just, I don't know, it kind of
00:34:53.619 --> 00:34:55.760
bothers me when I'm listening to a podcast and
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.239
that happens. So I'm trying to avoid it. Um,
00:34:59.380 --> 00:35:01.139
I'm going to push it off for as long as possible.
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.239
If there's any brands out there that want to
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:06.880
sponsor the podcast that are like stoked on it,
00:35:06.940 --> 00:35:10.559
um, reach out, DM me, I'll send you my email
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:12.880
or phone number or whatever. And let's have a
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.340
chat because even though I'm not trying to make
00:35:15.340 --> 00:35:17.820
money off this necessarily money does, you know,
00:35:17.820 --> 00:35:21.659
help push the show forward. So, um, yeah, any,
00:35:21.739 --> 00:35:24.179
any little or big brands out there that want
00:35:24.179 --> 00:35:26.239
to be a part of this, let me know. I'm open to
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:30.630
it. And we'll go from there. But until next time,
00:35:30.650 --> 00:35:34.570
folks, fly safe, have fun and see you out there.
00:35:34.829 --> 00:35:35.329
Peace.
