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Host: Dana Jonson Guest: Diane Gould Guest Title and Bio: Diane Gould is a licensed clinical social worker with over 40 years of experience working with neurodivergent children, adults, and their families. She founded PDA North America, an organization dedicated to supporting families and professionals navigating this unique autism profile. Diane is also the co-author of the groundbreaking book, Navigating PDA in America, which adapts international knowledge of PDA to the unique challenges faced by families in the United States. Her work focuses on creating low-pressure, supportive environments for individuals with PDA through education, advocacy, and systemic change.
Episode Summary
In this episode, host Dana Jonson sits down with Diane Gould, a pioneer in raising awareness about Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) in the United States. They explore what PDA is, how it fits within the autism spectrum, and why it has only recently gained recognition in America. Diane shares her journey to becoming a leading advocate for PDA, highlights the challenges in diagnosing and supporting individuals with PDA, and provides insights into creating low-pressure, relationship-based environments that foster autonomy.
Listeners will learn:
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The unique characteristics of PDA, including its pervasive drive for autonomy and heightened sensitivity to demands.
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How PDA differs from traditional understandings of autism.
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Why traditional behavioral approaches may not work for PDA and how to adopt a mindset shift focused on flexibility and collaboration.
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Practical strategies for parents, educators, and professionals to support individuals with PDA effectively.
Resources Mentioned
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Book: Navigating PDA in America by Diane Gould and Ruth Fidler
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Website: PDA North America (pdanorthamerica.org)
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Free monthly PDA 101 webinars (First Thursday of every month)
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Downloadable resources for parents and professionals
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Training programs and provider directory
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Book: Is This Autism? by Donna Henderson
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Book: The Declarative Language Handbook by Linda Murphy
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Giftedness and Beyond: Navigating Neurodivergence with Dr. Matt Zakreski
Thank you for listening!
