บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ Mark Devlin & Ryder Lee Discuss Secret Gifted Children

00:03:54.240 the sixties and back in the seventies and stuff. But 70 00:03:54.259 --> 00:03:57.719 when you start inching it closer to the time that 71 00:03:58.219 --> 00:04:01.620 we're kind of currently in is starting when you get 72 00:04:01.659 --> 00:04:05.120 a lot more pushback than when you're talking about the 73 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:08.949 CIA infiltration into the rock and roll. Like everyone kind 74 00:04:08.990 --> 00:04:12.030 of accepts that now and how the CIA was basically 75 00:04:12.090 --> 00:04:16.610 responsible for the LSD and, and pushing the hippie movement 76 00:04:16.670 --> 00:04:20.750 and then destroying the hippie movement by, uh, the anti-war 77 00:04:20.769 --> 00:04:23.860 movement by starting the hippie movement. You know, like you 78 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:26.639 can talk about that and that's like a commonly accepted thing. 79 00:04:27.100 --> 00:04:31.750 Even So far as to the crack epidemic and the 80 00:04:31.790 --> 00:04:36.970 drug epidemic, people will believe that that was ran by 81 00:04:37.009 --> 00:04:39.949 the CIA to destroy the nuclear family, but not when 82 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:44.620 you bring up Tupac, Mark. It's a completely different monster 83 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:49.500 when you bring up Tupac, okay? And I got the 84 00:04:49.540 --> 00:04:52.519 same type of thing from everyone, right? And it kind 85 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:56.720 of felt like a broken record on Tupac. People in 86 00:04:56.740 --> 00:04:59.629 the comment sections, they were like, Because I kind of said, 87 00:04:59.649 --> 00:05:02.529 you know, Tupac wasn't a gangster. He was an actor, 88 00:05:02.610 --> 00:05:06.629 which is verifiably true. Anybody that takes five seconds of 89 00:05:06.689 --> 00:05:09.290 research online can realize that he was an actor and 90 00:05:09.329 --> 00:05:09.889 he wasn't. 91 00:05:09.930 --> 00:05:12.129 I did a Patreon video on this just the other 92 00:05:12.170 --> 00:05:15.889 week to mark the 30th anniversary of his death. And 93 00:05:15.949 --> 00:05:19.470 I uncovered this footage of him in the early 90s 94 00:05:19.629 --> 00:05:22.050 in Baltimore when he was studying at the Performing Arts 95 00:05:22.250 --> 00:05:26.110 Academy there in his little ballet vest. And he's very 96 00:05:26.149 --> 00:05:29.829 effeminate and very softly spoken. And very far from the 97 00:05:29.930 --> 00:05:32.829 thug gangster persona that he came out with a few 98 00:05:32.850 --> 00:05:35.329 years later. So you're right. It was all an act, 99 00:05:35.810 --> 00:05:37.610 but people don't like to hear it. And you would 100 00:05:37.649 --> 00:05:39.829 think that was 30 years ago, but that's still not 101 00:05:39.850 --> 00:05:43.000 a safe enough distance. It seems you have to wait 102 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:45.779 like 50 or 60 years to be able to talk 103 00:05:45.819 --> 00:05:48.600 about things without everyone getting upset. 104 00:05:50.379 --> 00:05:54.420 I was really shocked by the response, Mark. And it 105 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:58.939 was like, he never called himself a gangster. he shot 106 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:02.060 two cops. That's the most gangster thing that you could 107 00:06:02.100 --> 00:06:04.040 ever possibly do. And I was like, do you even 108 00:06:04.100 --> 00:06:07.360 understand what you just said right there? Why are you 109 00:06:07.500 --> 00:06:11.689 idolizing a man who shot two cops? First off, you know, 110 00:06:12.060 --> 00:06:15.089 you know, keep idolizing people that were used to demoralize 111 00:06:15.149 --> 00:06:18.629 an entire generation, right? And see how much better things get. 112 00:06:18.970 --> 00:06:22.670 You're glorifying a lifestyle that's been used by the government 113 00:06:22.709 --> 00:06:26.449 to keep people suppressed to fund the prison industrial complex. 114 00:06:27.370 --> 00:06:31.160 The United States is the most incarcerated country on the planet. 115 00:06:31.500 --> 00:06:35.100 Do you think that that's a coincidence? The cops weren't 116 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.100 in uniform, by the way, Mark. He didn't know that 117 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:38.699 they were cops. 118 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:40.019 Yeah, they were off duty. 119 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:44.199 When he shot them, right? It's like you should probably 120 00:06:44.259 --> 00:06:49.709 defend your freedom as much as you defend actors and 121 00:06:50.170 --> 00:06:54.310 dead musicians, right? And I feel kind of sad that 122 00:06:55.029 --> 00:06:59.569 for these people, you know, that they're so emotionally attached 123 00:07:00.069 --> 00:07:04.310 to this person that they've never even met, that it's 124 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:07.779 so attached that it's just become a part of their identity. 125 00:07:09.339 --> 00:07:12.980 They should literally put this much You would think that 126 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:15.550 I got on there and just started personally attacking every 127 00:07:15.579 --> 00:07:18.350 single one of these people. And but they should put 128 00:07:18.389 --> 00:07:22.930 this much energy in defending some people that they actually know. 129 00:07:22.949 --> 00:07:25.509 They should probably all just be lawyers because they're really 130 00:07:25.550 --> 00:07:28.509 good at defending people. And it's just it's just mind 131 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.439 boggling to me. And I thought that this was a 132 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:35.540 commonly accepted thing. And you're right. Like how much time 133 00:07:36.139 --> 00:07:39.430 needs to pass? before we can start talking about this 134 00:07:39.449 --> 00:07:42.089 stuff and before it becomes commonly accepted. And I thought 135 00:07:42.110 --> 00:07:44.370 that this was already commonly accepted. I didn't think that 136 00:07:44.410 --> 00:07:47.689 I was saying anything new. In fact, I knew that 137 00:07:47.709 --> 00:07:49.709 I wasn't saying anything new because me and you had 138 00:07:49.750 -->

00:07:52.180 talked about it over two years ago. 139 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:53.920 Yeah. 140 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:56.860 Seems you really touched a nerve there. And there just 141 00:07:56.899 --> 00:07:59.500 comes a point sometimes where those comments have to get 142 00:07:59.579 --> 00:08:02.819 turned off. I had to disable comments or I chose 143 00:08:02.860 --> 00:08:05.319 to disable comments on a video that I put out 144 00:08:05.339 --> 00:08:09.189 a couple of days ago about the weaponization of immigration, 145 00:08:09.529 --> 00:08:12.870 because it's a very clear agenda. Definitely happening here in 146 00:08:12.889 --> 00:08:18.370 the UK. Documentation from verifiable sources to prove that this 147 00:08:18.430 --> 00:08:21.300 is an agenda. But I knew that certain people were 148 00:08:21.540 --> 00:08:23.459 going to get triggered and it would lead to a 149 00:08:23.500 --> 00:08:26.699 shit storm in the comments and people would be wanting 150 00:08:26.740 --> 00:08:28.920 to argue for weeks and weeks and weeks about it. 151 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.959 So those comments got turned off. There comes a point 152 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:34.179 where you just want to make a statement, put information out, 153 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:36.740 People can deal with it as they choose. If they 154 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:38.779 want to get triggered by it, then get triggered as 155 00:08:38.820 --> 00:08:41.220 long as it's on their own time in their own space. 156 00:08:41.620 --> 00:08:42.820 That's what it comes to sometimes. 157 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:46.220 What do you think that the whole immigration thing is? 158 00:08:46.500 --> 00:08:49.039 Because it seems like it's not only happening in the UK, 159 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:52.000 it's kind of happening everywhere all at the exact same time. 160 00:08:52.019 --> 00:08:57.639 And it seems like it's a way to completely collapse 161 00:08:57.980 --> 00:09:03.149 the whole system. What do you think is actually going 162 00:09:03.230 --> 00:09:05.409 on with that? Do you think that that's like, what 163 00:09:05.429 --> 00:09:07.509 do you think is the end goal? I guess is the. 164 00:09:09.059 --> 00:09:12.360 Well, I won't get too far off on that tangent, but, um, 165 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:15.440 my guests, Lance and Andy of rise above life, who 166 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:18.779 I was doing the show with, uh, presented documentation about 167 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:23.409 the so-called clergy plan. This guy, uh, count Richard Vaughn, 168 00:09:23.669 --> 00:09:28.389 held and Hove clergy, who was half Austrian, Austro-Hungarian and 169 00:09:28.429 --> 00:09:32.090 half Japanese. And he wrote a book in 1925, just 170 00:09:32.169 --> 00:09:36.669 over 100 years ago, called Practical Idealism in German, where 171 00:09:36.710 --> 00:09:42.919 he talked about this elite plan to deliberately genetically water 172 00:09:42.940 --> 00:09:47.539 down the European white Caucasian race and

create what he 173 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:53.759 referred to as a Negroid Eurasian race. And the plan 174 00:09:53.820 --> 00:09:57.320 was to basically breed what we would call white people 175 00:09:58.139 --> 00:10:01.059 out of existence in society over a very prolonged period 176 00:10:01.100 --> 00:10:04.600 of time. And that's what the immigration programs that we 177 00:10:04.620 --> 00:10:07.759 can see happening in so many nations now are really 178 00:10:07.820 --> 00:10:12.399 all about. It's not about granting asylum to refugees and 179 00:10:12.740 --> 00:10:18.169 political asylum seekers and such. It's about deliberately culturally subverting 180 00:10:18.230 --> 00:10:23.460 nations and at a genetic dna level to create a 181 00:10:23.539 --> 00:10:30.360 hybrid race which is completely controllable and programmable and uh 182 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:36.019 just creating complete detachedness from what was there previously genetically 183 00:10:36.379 --> 00:10:40.940 ancestrally culturally that's what it is and people hate to 184 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:45.460 hear it but in this show all the documentation you 185 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:48.120 could ever need was presented and you know all about 186 00:10:48.139 --> 00:10:51.549 this you're a filmmaker You have to provide citations and sources. 187 00:10:51.950 --> 00:10:55.370 That's what any professional researcher does. Otherwise, people will accuse 188 00:10:55.389 --> 00:10:57.490 you of just making it up. And people may well 189 00:10:57.549 --> 00:11:00.590 be just making it up if they can't provide the documentation. 190 00:11:00.850 --> 00:11:03.409 But when you've got the sources, when you've got actual 191 00:11:03.769 --> 00:11:08.700 documents and actual books and you can timestamp them and 192 00:11:08.820 --> 00:11:12.580 you can verify where they came from, it becomes undeniable. 193 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:15.100 You can still get upset if you want, but you 194 00:11:15.139 --> 00:11:18.139 can't deny that it's an agenda. So like I say, 195 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:21.690 I won't get too far off down that tangent but 196 00:11:21.850 --> 00:11:23.870 uh that was the crux of what we talked about 197 00:11:23.950 --> 00:11:24.610 on that show. 198 00:11:26.350 --> 00:11:29.600 It also feels like a giant and this ties in 199 00:11:29.700 --> 00:11:32.740 this ties in with the the subject here that we're 200 00:11:32.779 --> 00:11:35.299 talking about because it also seems like a giant mk 201 00:11:35.419 --> 00:11:38.980 ultra operation based off of the amount of people that 202 00:11:39.019 --> 00:11:45.340 have been uh like sexual acts uh i think this 203 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.539 is probably the best way for the censors to say 204 00:11:48.610 --> 00:11:54.350 it has been performed unwillingly on a lot of young 205 00:11:54.490 --> 00:11:59.570 females in these other countries by immigrants. And that is 206 00:11:59.690 --> 00:12:04.009 a big MKUltra technique. And it seems like that's kind 207 00:12:04.190 --> 00:12:08.320 of they want to induce that type of trauma. Because, 208 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:13.059 you know, as the movie Psychic Agent, the gay program. 209 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:16.200 Is about, you know, around half of it is about. 210 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:20.179 Children and the traumatization of children and what was going 211 00:12:20.299 --> 00:12:23.970 on in public school and how they were essentially being 212 00:12:24.090 --> 00:12:28.389 MKUltra'd in. This also gets into A Clockwork Shining as 213 00:12:28.429 --> 00:12:31.730 well with, because we talk about Dr. Ewan Cameron in 214 00:12:31.769 --> 00:12:34.279 A Clockwork Shining and what he was doing in Canada 215 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:39.980 to essentially mind control people, this de-patterning, this way to 216 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:46.179 go in and basically reprogram somebody's mind through trauma and 217 00:12:46.210 --> 00:12:50.289 through drugging. It's the exact same thing that people remember 218 00:12:50.690 --> 00:12:53.470 happening to them within public school and these gifted and 219 00:12:53.509 --> 00:12:57.379 talented education programs is, Essentially the exact same thing. They're 220 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:00.700 being told to take a substance. They don't know what 221 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:03.870 the substance is. They're told that it's different things. The 222 00:13:03.909 --> 00:13:06.730 pink drink, some people remember it as an orange drink. 223 00:13:07.090 --> 00:13:10.269 Different people were told different things based off of where 224 00:13:10.330 --> 00:13:13.200 they lived, of what the medication was for. But it's 225 00:13:13.220 --> 00:13:18.179 kind of been deduced that it's some sort of... drug, 226 00:13:18.220 --> 00:13:22.139 some form of hallucinogenic drug. Then they're then taken out 227 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:25.500 of the classroom. Then they put these headphones on with 228 00:13:25.539 --> 00:13:28.549 these weird frequencies. It's exactly like what Hugh and Cameron 229 00:13:28.570 --> 00:13:31.490 was doing. That's what it was called psychic driving. He 230 00:13:31.509 --> 00:13:35.750 would put a looped, repeated audio message in headphones. I mean, 231 00:13:35.789 --> 00:13:38.389 we show the footage in a in A Clockwork Shining 232 00:13:38.450 --> 00:13:43.100 of him doing that. And that was to reprogram the 233 00:13:43.139 --> 00:13:47.889 mind to make them believe something that happened that didn't happen, 234 00:13:47.970 --> 00:13:50.159 or it could be the opposite way around. So when 235 00:13:50.179 --> 00:13:54.039 you put all these things together, you're seeing a carried 236 00:13:54.159 --> 00:14:00.850 out version upon an entire generation of kids, maybe going 237 00:14:00.909 --> 00:14:04.350 back to even the 40s, the mid 40s, with a 238 00:14:04.429 --> 00:14:07.200 program that we talk about in the movie called the 239 00:14:07.250 --> 00:14:11.399

Indian Lake Project in upstate New York, where this possibly 240 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:15.580 could have been a giant military operation. And, you know, 241 00:14:15.620 --> 00:14:21.799 mind control goes back even further than some, you go 242 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:25.690 back into the thirties as well with, uh, you know, 243 00:14:25.710 --> 00:14:28.330 it just didn't happen during world war two. And then 244 00:14:28.350 --> 00:14:30.830 it just didn't happen in the United States. It's been 245 00:14:30.909 --> 00:14:34.009 something that's been, been being done for a really long 246 00:14:34.070 --> 00:14:38.509 time and the study of mind control operations. So I 247 00:14:38.549 --> 00:14:42.860 do see this, uh, this immigration thing as a form of, 248 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:48.899 like mind control and traumatization upon people that otherwise wouldn't 249 00:14:48.980 --> 00:14:53.019 be getting that traumatization any other way. 250 00:14:53.929 --> 00:14:56.909 Right. Well, maybe I didn't go off on too much 251 00:14:56.929 --> 00:14:59.990 of a tangent then. Maybe these subjects are related because 252 00:15:00.009 --> 00:15:02.450 when you put it like that, it does come across 253 00:15:02.549 --> 00:15:06.679 as an extension of MKUltra in many ways. It's societal 254 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:10.820 conditioning and through mind control, through driving the way people 255 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:13.299 think and people's attitudes and stuff, which is why people 256 00:15:13.340 --> 00:15:16.990 get so triggered. Mainly, I feel people get triggered because 257 00:15:17.009 --> 00:15:20.570 they've been programmed to get triggered. They've been basically instructed 258 00:15:20.629 --> 00:15:24.529 in how to think and how to view situations. So 259 00:15:24.549 --> 00:15:28.419 from that point of view, yes, it is MKUltra. So 260 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:32.240 all these things are, I guess, ultimately connected. So just 261 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:34.759 bringing it back to your film then and the main 262 00:15:34.820 --> 00:15:37.960 points you're making through that. Through the work I've done 263 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:41.820 into the music industry and popular culture and entertainment, I've 264 00:15:41.860 --> 00:15:47.519 shown that oftentimes people get selected for prominent roles purely 265 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:49.519 as a product of the families they happen to be 266 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:53.429 born into, and often it's military families. The offspring of 267 00:15:53.529 --> 00:15:57.350 military personnel get put forward for these roles, whether it's 268 00:15:57.409 --> 00:15:59.970 as an actor or a TV presenter or a singer 269 00:16:00.250 --> 00:16:05.360 or a politician. But it seems there's another way children 270 00:16:05.429 --> 00:16:09.379 get specially selected for these public roles. And that's through 271 00:16:09.620 --> 00:16:13.480 what you alluded to there, which is this program for 272 00:16:13.580 --> 00:16:18.360 gifted and talented individuals, gifted and talented children who are 273 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:21.779 identified in the public school system early on and kept 274 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:25.940 an eye on and groomed and then ushered into these 275 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:29.679 positions of influence later on in their lives. So a 276 00:16:29.779 --> 00:16:34.730 lot of your film talks about this. So Are the 277 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:39.809 Gate Program, Project Gateway, and Stargate all related? Because they've 278 00:16:39.830 --> 00:16:42.580 all got the Gate bit in their names. Do they 279 00:16:42.629 --> 00:16:45.059 all kind of tie into each other, or are they 280 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:46.679 separate entities there? 281 00:16:48.059 --> 00:16:52.710 They are separate entities. They are separate programs, and... I 282 00:16:52.730 --> 00:16:54.269 can see where some people. 283 00:16:54.289 --> 00:16:55.950 They just happen to have gate in the names. 284 00:16:56.129 --> 00:16:58.750 Yes, yes. I can see where some people would get 285 00:16:58.789 --> 00:17:02.139 that confused. And, you know, not a lot of people 286 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:04.759 have really had that big of an issue with it. 287 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:08.160 Because I think we really show a distinction between all 288 00:17:08.180 --> 00:17:10.700 of the programs within the movie. I mean, there's a 289 00:17:10.769 --> 00:17:12.470 clear distinction between all of them. 290 00:17:12.529 --> 00:17:12.849 You have. 291 00:17:13.250 --> 00:17:16.210 the Stargate, which is the remote viewing unit. It wasn't 292 00:17:16.250 --> 00:17:19.490 always called Stargate. It went through many different name changes 293 00:17:19.589 --> 00:17:24.170 and different three-letter organizations were involved in the study and 294 00:17:24.190 --> 00:17:26.930 the research. And then the eventual unit at Fort Meade, 295 00:17:26.950 --> 00:17:30.309 Maryland ran by DIA, the Army Intelligence, and then back 296 00:17:30.349 --> 00:17:32.049 to DIA. And then it was supposed to be sent 297 00:17:32.089 --> 00:17:32.509 to the CIA in 1995. 298 00:17:32.490 --> 00:17:33.509 But then they said that. 299 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:39.640 No intelligence data had ever been collected, so they shut 300 00:17:39.660 --> 00:17:42.809 the program down, which is a complete lie. You can 301 00:17:42.829 --> 00:17:44.690 just look through the documents and see that that was 302 00:17:44.710 --> 00:17:49.809 a giant lie. But then you have the gateway experience, 303 00:17:49.849 --> 00:17:53.470 which is the Robert Monroe gateway tapes, which people have 304 00:17:53.490 --> 00:17:58.250 been confused about the Robert Monroe experience. gateway experience for 305 00:17:58.269 --> 00:18:01.019 a long time people have believed that they were a 306 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:06.519 part of the stargate army military unit when they were 307 00:18:06.619 --> 00:18:10.539 actually in the gateway experience

the robert monroe gateway experience 308 00:18:10.579 --> 00:18:13.240 which you can go to right now if you wanted 309 00:18:13.660 --> 00:18:16.990 to go and have an out-of-body experience i mean they 310 00:18:17.029 --> 00:18:20.369 won't claim or tell you that you'll 100 for sure 311 00:18:20.410 --> 00:18:24.109 have an out-of-body experience but your chances of having one 312 00:18:24.569 --> 00:18:28.029 are dramatically increased if you go to the Monroe Institute 313 00:18:28.069 --> 00:18:31.029 and have these, you know, take the course at the 314 00:18:31.089 --> 00:18:35.630 Monroe Institute. You're more than likely, you have a better 315 00:18:35.710 --> 00:18:37.640 chance of getting outside of your body if you go 316 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.519 there and you actually take the course. Then you have 317 00:18:40.539 --> 00:18:46.559 the GATE program. gifted and talented education which some of 318 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:50.859 the first documented records of this happened in the early 319 00:18:50.980 --> 00:18:55.680 60s with this program called mgm mentally gifted minors and 320 00:18:55.700 --> 00:18:59.380 this comes out of california and walter bosley which is 321 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:02.940 in the movie he was also in a clockwork shining 322 00:19:03.019 --> 00:19:08.450 along with yourself uh Was in this this program, and 323 00:19:08.549 --> 00:19:14.390 then he was the son of Air Force individual and 324 00:19:15.140 --> 00:19:17.420 his dad was in the Air Force, a high ranking 325 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:23.400 Air Force officer. And, you know, he talks about that 326 00:19:23.420 --> 00:19:26.609 a lot within the movie and how that's connected and 327 00:19:26.769 --> 00:19:30.750 how he believes that he was essentially groomed for his 328 00:19:30.849 --> 00:19:35.950 role later on working with the intelligence community and counterintelligence 329 00:19:36.089 --> 00:19:40.490 and working as a special investigator for the Air Force. 330 00:19:41.349 --> 00:19:43.470 So you're 100% right. And how these two connect are 331 00:19:43.490 --> 00:19:52.380 that that's a what was happening. So if you go 332 00:19:52.420 --> 00:19:54.259 back to the what we were talking about in a 333 00:19:54.299 --> 00:19:57.339 Clockwork Shining documentary, which you should be able to watch 334 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:00.920 for free online, by the way, on Tubi or Amazon, 335 00:20:00.940 --> 00:20:03.240 and you can also watch psychic agent the gate program 336 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:08.589 on Amazon Prime. Now it's available in the UK. is 337 00:20:08.670 --> 00:20:13.430 it started with the sons and daughters of military personnel. 338 00:20:13.470 --> 00:20:18.599 And We talk about that a lot. And that's where 339 00:20:18.619 --> 00:20:21.319 a lot of your research comes from, you know, out 340 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:24.220 of Laurel Canyon and how a lot of these big 341 00:20:24.940 --> 00:20:29.559 musical acts all had family ties back to the military 342 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:33.799 industrial complex. They were pretty much everybody. And it's really 343 00:20:33.859 --> 00:20:38.099 shocking whenever you make those connections. But that's essentially what 344 00:20:38.140 --> 00:20:41.339 was going on. It's exactly like With what was happening 345 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:45.720 there where they were using the children of military personnel, 346 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:49.440 they also started using the children of military personnel within 347 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:53.990 these gate programs. Northrop Grumman had a gate program school 348 00:20:55.369 --> 00:20:58.930 just right outside of, I mean, Northrop Grumman is literally 349 00:20:58.990 --> 00:21:01.970 the place where the military creates all of its weapons, 350 00:21:03.130 --> 00:21:06.180 develops all of the military weapons that happens in Northrop Grumman. 351 00:21:06.980 --> 00:21:15.000 And Danny Sheehan, which is a big-time UFO investigator, he's 352 00:21:15.059 --> 00:21:19.140 on the lecturing circuit of all the UFO conferences. He's 353 00:21:19.180 --> 00:21:23.369 known as the UFO lawyer. He had come out just 354 00:21:23.460 --> 00:21:29.109 around a month ago and talked about how at Northrop Grumman, 355 00:21:29.230 --> 00:21:34.569 there was this gate program school that was essentially drugging 356 00:21:34.730 --> 00:21:43.269 kids of... military personnel to unlock their psychic abilities in 357 00:21:43.430 --> 00:21:50.019 order to connect with reverse engineered UFOs that the government 358 00:21:50.059 --> 00:21:53.460 had created to psychically connect with them. And that's not 359 00:21:53.500 --> 00:21:58.420 too far of a stretch because there are real documentation 360 00:21:58.740 --> 00:22:05.539 of adult psychic abilities. Remote viewers that have reportedly connected 361 00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:10.279 with UFOs and able to control them and maneuver them 362 00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:13.240 and manipulate them with their mind. I mean, this kind 363 00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:16.509 of goes back to the whole Bob Lazar thing. That's 364 00:22:16.549 --> 00:22:21.589 kind of like there's no controls in these crafts. You know, 365 00:22:21.730 --> 00:22:26.289 it's controlled by the individuals and the occupants mind. You know, 366 00:22:26.309 --> 00:22:28.470 there's not any physical controls in there that you can 367 00:22:28.930 --> 00:22:31.700 maneuver the craft around in. And that might seem like 368 00:22:31.740 --> 00:22:33.579 a really big stretch, but I think that all this 369 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:40.480 stuff is 100% connected. But yeah, the differences in the programs, 370 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:45.599 but the connections are, is that the Monroe Institute gateway 371 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:49.089 experience is connected to the Stargate remote viewing unit at 372 00:22:49.130 --> 00:22:54.009 Fort Meade because the remote viewing unit at Fort Meade, 373 00:22:54.190 -->

00:22:56.910 some of the Army personnel were sent to the Monroe 374 00:22:56.990 --> 00:23:01.609 Institute by General Stubblebine. to study under Robert Monroe to 375 00:23:01.650 --> 00:23:04.569 find out if getting outside of your body is a 376 00:23:06.970 --> 00:23:10.630 way to a more valid way of being able to 377 00:23:10.690 --> 00:23:13.549 remote view. And then whenever you ask some of the 378 00:23:13.589 --> 00:23:16.839 remote viewers like Lynn Buchanan and Angela Ford, which are 379 00:23:17.420 --> 00:23:22.960 confirmed psychic remote viewers for the army and the DIA, 380 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:25.380 which are in the movie psychic agent, the gate program, 381 00:23:26.420 --> 00:23:29.259 what is the most advanced form of remote viewing? They 382 00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:34.240 tell you that it's being outside of your body. So 383 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:37.680 then you connect that with, and they had the access 384 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:41.140 at Fort Meade to the Monroe Institute gateway tapes. They 385 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:43.859 had them all there. Lynn Buchanan says that in the movie. 386 00:23:44.420 --> 00:23:47.829 So then when you connect the Monroe Institute gateway tapes 387 00:23:48.009 --> 00:23:54.009 to the gateway, the gifted and talented education in public school, 388 00:23:54.549 --> 00:23:57.549 this is what triggered a lot of people online was 389 00:23:57.630 --> 00:24:01.480 hearing The Monroe Institute Gateway tapes online. You should be 390 00:24:01.529 --> 00:24:04.049 hearing my voice in your right ear. You should be 391 00:24:04.089 --> 00:24:07.049 hearing my voice in your right ear. That triggered a 392 00:24:07.089 --> 00:24:10.029 lot of people to bring back all of these memories 393 00:24:10.150 --> 00:24:13.740 of this really weird and strange program that they remember 394 00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:19.259 going through in public school. And they believe that what 395 00:24:19.299 --> 00:24:25.160 they heard in public school was the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes. Tapes. 396 00:24:26.140 --> 00:24:28.569 And then that brings in the question, okay, well, if 397 00:24:28.589 --> 00:24:30.710 that's what they were hearing, one, how did they even 398 00:24:30.769 --> 00:24:34.509 get into public school? Two, what was the purpose of that? Well, 399 00:24:34.529 --> 00:24:36.579 we know what the purpose of the Monroe Institute is. 400 00:24:37.420 --> 00:24:40.759 experience tapes were was to get people outside of their 401 00:24:40.779 --> 00:24:47.049 body and if you read the gateway process uh documents 402 00:24:47.089 --> 00:24:50.069 that we show in the movie it tells you that 403 00:24:50.769 --> 00:24:53.569 the the goal is to get people outside of their 404 00:24:53.589 --> 00:24:59.640 body to communicate with non-human intelligence communicate with non-human intelligence 405 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.079 outside of your body get that information and bring that 406 00:25:03.130 --> 00:25:06.339

information back and then tell us, you know, what's going on. 407 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:09.980 I mean, that document is a really fascinating document. It 408 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:12.940 basically talks all about astral projection and out of body 409 00:25:12.980 --> 00:25:19.569 experience and, and how biofeedback is really important in understanding, uh, uh, the, 410 00:25:19.690 --> 00:25:21.269 how to get outside of your body. And then we 411 00:25:21.289 --> 00:25:24.809 have Katie page in the documentary, which, uh, was a 412 00:25:24.849 --> 00:25:28.240 part of this program called the Twilight Learner Program at 413 00:25:28.279 --> 00:25:30.980 the Denver Tech Center in Colorado by this guy named 414 00:25:31.019 --> 00:25:33.980 Thomas H. Bedinsky, which worked out of Area 51 on 415 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:37.799 the SR-71 Blackbird, and then immediately went, after he was 416 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.269 done with that, went to Colorado to start this biofeedback program, 417 00:25:41.309 --> 00:25:44.250 and she claims that whenever she was through this program 418 00:25:44.289 --> 00:25:46.849 as a kid, gave her the exact same experiences that 419 00:25:46.869 --> 00:25:48.950 she had whenever she later on in life as an 420 00:25:49.009 --> 00:25:53.730 adult listened to the Monroe Institute Gateway Tapes. Right. 421 00:25:54.630 --> 00:25:56.609 A lot of people might be surprised to hear that 422 00:25:56.630 --> 00:26:00.660 the Monroe Institute has connections to the CIA and the 423 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:04.839 government and all these shady organizations. The Esalen Institute in 424 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:09.259 California certainly does. And the Monroe Institute, which was involved 425 00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:12.259 in some similar kinds of activities, I guess, would appear 426 00:26:12.299 --> 00:26:16.289 to have also been linked. And a lot of people 427 00:26:16.349 --> 00:26:17.569 won't enjoy hearing that. 428 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:21.000 They won't enjoy hearing that. And if you can take 429 00:26:21.019 --> 00:26:23.500 it even a step farther that I didn't even want 430 00:26:23.539 --> 00:26:25.880 to put in the documentary. So I didn't put it 431 00:26:25.900 --> 00:26:29.990 in the documentary because I hadn't found a lot of 432 00:26:30.069 --> 00:26:34.269 evidence for it. But it's starting to come out now. 433 00:26:35.470 --> 00:26:39.069 That it's a possibility that Robert Monroe didn't even create 434 00:26:39.490 --> 00:26:43.710 that technology, that it was essentially given to him by 435 00:26:43.730 --> 00:26:50.279 the CIA as a front facing organization. And this whole 436 00:26:50.339 --> 00:26:54.279 document was actually written by a gentleman called Andreeja Puharj. 437 00:26:54.299 --> 00:26:54.539 Right. 438 00:26:59.089 --> 00:27:01.970 I'm pretty sure we would have spoken about Stranger Things 439 00:27:02.230 --> 00:27:05.430 in one of our previous conversations, the Netflix TV show, 440 00:27:05.529 --> 00:27:08.880 because so many secrets were revealed through the narrative of 441 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.880 that show in terms of what went on with MKUltra 442 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.640 and things like remote viewing and the harnessing of psychic 443 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.259 abilities and such. And there's so much of what you 444 00:27:18.299 --> 00:27:21.569 include in this new documentary, which was shown in Stranger Things, 445 00:27:21.630 --> 00:27:25.190 particularly through the character of Eleven, played by Millie Bobby Brown. 446 00:27:25.210 --> 00:27:30.700 So she's in this government covert... Military Laboratory Research Institute. 447 00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:34.599 And she's under the watch of Dr. Martin Brenner, who 448 00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:37.740 I think is modelled on Dr. Ewan Cameron. It's a 449 00:27:37.819 --> 00:27:40.859 thinly veiled reference to him and many of these very 450 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:45.460 real MKUltra experiments. And she's doing things there like using 451 00:27:45.619 --> 00:27:49.519 her mind, her psychic abilities to crush a Coke can. 452 00:27:50.700 --> 00:27:52.859 And this is very similar to what we hear about 453 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:57.220 spoon bending, which was popularised by Yuri Geller. The idea 454 00:27:57.259 --> 00:28:00.140 that someone can actually bend a spoon just by focusing 455 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:03.720 their mind. And also in that show, you see Brenner 456 00:28:04.099 --> 00:28:07.259 experimenting with this other kid by getting him to identify 457 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.480 shapes which are drawn on a piece of paper inside 458 00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:13.589 an envelope. And all of these were very real experiments 459 00:28:13.619 --> 00:28:16.640 that were done to try and develop psychic and kinetic 460 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:21.369 abilities within children. And often trauma was the key to it. 461 00:28:21.450 --> 00:28:24.349 So there's a reference in the film there to these 462 00:28:24.509 --> 00:28:28.470 abilities only being unlocked. And being able to be fully 463 00:28:28.569 --> 00:28:32.329 harnessed when the child has been subjected to trauma, which 464 00:28:32.410 --> 00:28:35.150 causes them to dissociate and for the mind to open up. 465 00:28:35.769 --> 00:28:39.410 So it's very immoral. And that's the reason why these 466 00:28:39.470 --> 00:28:42.480 projects had to be off the books and black ops 467 00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:45.900 and why they've been covered up for so many decades, right? 468 00:28:47.180 --> 00:28:53.490 Absolutely. And I would say that another really good fictionalized 469 00:28:54.450 --> 00:28:57.380 version of this, which I was actually really shocked by, 470 00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:01.720 is a show and a book actually by Stephen King 471 00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:05.950 called The Institute. It just came out with its second 472 00:29:06.670 --> 00:29:13.269 season recently. And when the first season came

out on 473 00:29:13.369 --> 00:29:17.019 MGM +, I was literally in the middle of making 474 00:29:17.059 --> 00:29:21.579 this movie. And I watched it and I'm like, holy shit. 475 00:29:22.900 --> 00:29:29.200 How did he... Stephen King knew... A lot of things 476 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:33.599 that Stephen King does is all about children and psychic abilities. Like, 477 00:29:33.619 --> 00:29:35.420 come on, Stephen King, give me a break. I mean, 478 00:29:35.490 --> 00:29:40.000 Danny within The Shining, uh, Carrie, uh, like, uh, it 479 00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:42.859 like psychic children and it, you know, and then he 480 00:29:42.900 --> 00:29:46.799 does this, uh, this book called the Institute where children 481 00:29:46.859 --> 00:29:56.539 are literally kidnapped in the where they're basically traumatized. They're 482 00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:01.210 identified as psychics through the public school, and they're kidnapped 483 00:30:01.269 --> 00:30:02.910 out of the middle of the night out of their beds, 484 00:30:03.289 --> 00:30:07.369 which there are real programs like that in the United 485 00:30:07.410 --> 00:30:13.630 States for teen behavioral modification schools. Very real thing where 486 00:30:13.730 --> 00:30:18.190 parents of unruly children can literally pay a company and 487 00:30:18.210 --> 00:30:22.339 an organization to come and take the kid out of 488 00:30:22.380 --> 00:30:24.490 their house in the middle of the night and handcuff 489 00:30:24.509 --> 00:30:27.750 them and throw them into a black, black SUV and 490 00:30:27.869 --> 00:30:30.970 take them to some facility where they live out until 491 00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:35.119 they graduate from that facility until they're 18. 100% real. 492 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:39.119 It kind of started in Utah with the, uh, with 493 00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:43.029 the team behavioral modification camps, which were like a retreat 494 00:30:43.109 --> 00:30:45.670 that would be over a summer, uh, where they would 495 00:30:45.710 --> 00:30:48.390 just go hiking in the woods for three months. But 496 00:30:48.410 --> 00:30:51.930 then that turned into like facilities and, um, upstate New 497 00:30:51.970 --> 00:30:54.309 York as well as at this place called Ivy Ridge. 498 00:30:54.329 --> 00:30:57.210 There's a whole Netflix documentary on it called, uh, the 499 00:30:57.250 --> 00:31:02.589 program cons cults and kidnapping. But I was really shocked 500 00:31:02.650 --> 00:31:07.640 by this Institute because, uh, What it essentially is, and 501 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:09.980 I'm not going to ruin the plot for people that 502 00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:13.220 hasn't watched it or hasn't read the book, but they 503 00:31:13.259 --> 00:31:17.599 essentially get all of these gifted children that have psychic abilities. 504 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:23.259 They drug them and then they turn them into essentially 505 00:31:23.740 --> 00:31:30.150 remote assassins. Like straight off, Mark, I'm like, what?

you 506 00:31:30.190 --> 00:31:32.869 gotta be kidding me. I had already had this entire 507 00:31:32.910 --> 00:31:36.450 movie written and where I was going to go before 508 00:31:36.539 --> 00:31:39.799 I ever even saw, uh, that I even knew about 509 00:31:39.819 --> 00:31:42.819 the Institute and the Institute was a really recent book 510 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:48.990 that Stephen King wrote. And, uh, I was just really shocked. And, and, um, 511 00:31:49.609 --> 00:31:52.609 and the Institute, I mean, the, The ending of it's 512 00:31:52.650 --> 00:31:55.079 kind of, you know, kind of whack or whatever, but 513 00:31:55.450 --> 00:31:58.039 it's kind of how it goes with Stephen King stuff. 514 00:31:58.079 --> 00:31:59.779 He has a really good premise and then he just 515 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:03.720 kind of botches it at the end. But I was 516 00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:06.940 really shocked by that and how they were, you know, 517 00:32:07.140 --> 00:32:13.799 using these children to. literally get inside of somebody else's 518 00:32:13.859 --> 00:32:18.509 head to commit crimes, to commit assassinations. And that is 519 00:32:18.549 --> 00:32:23.170 a very real thing that can be done. There was 520 00:32:23.230 --> 00:32:28.309 real exercises that the military were doing that would allow 521 00:32:28.349 --> 00:32:33.220 a remote viewer to see through the eyes of the target. 522 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.359 Like you could literally get into the mind of another 523 00:32:37.420 --> 00:32:40.000 individual and see through their eyes and see what they 524 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:45.369 were seeing. and then sometimes control their body and implant 525 00:32:45.410 --> 00:32:48.609 thoughts and ideas and beliefs into their head to make 526 00:32:48.650 --> 00:32:50.950 them do things that they otherwise wouldn't do. So I 527 00:32:50.970 --> 00:32:51.609 was really shocked. 528 00:32:52.710 --> 00:32:56.789 Right. So ostensibly the remote viewing experiments were used in 529 00:32:56.809 --> 00:33:00.440 the Cold War era for espionage purposes to gain the 530 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:03.220 upper hand on the political enemy. So we're told, you know, 531 00:33:03.299 --> 00:33:07.640 Soviet Russia, but the film speculates on how this technology 532 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:11.920 may have been weaponized against the public. just regular people 533 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.359 and that it can be used to get inside people's 534 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.160 minds and drive their influences and behaviors as you just 535 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:20.480 said by remote control so it's like flying a drone 536 00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:24.920 except you're not flying a drone you're getting inside someone's 537 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.029 mind and driving the way that works so it takes 538 00:33:28.170 --> 00:33:31.730 on some very dark and shady overtones when you remove 539 00:33:31.769 --> 00:33:35.950 it from the military kind of applications which are just

540 00:33:36.009 --> 00:33:39.150 about justifiable you know somebody might be able to make 541 00:33:39.190 --> 00:33:42.089 an argument for this being in the national interest and such. 542 00:33:42.430 --> 00:33:46.769 But when that starts getting weaponized against regular people, that 543 00:33:46.809 --> 00:33:47.630 becomes a real problem. 544 00:33:49.450 --> 00:33:52.259 Absolutely, it does. And you can see some evidence of 545 00:33:52.319 --> 00:34:00.059 that with some incidents that has happened in schools and 546 00:34:00.299 --> 00:34:03.660 what people have claimed that, you know, voices telling them 547 00:34:03.700 --> 00:34:06.960 to do things. I mean, the latest... Makes you wonder. 548 00:34:06.700 --> 00:34:10.659 About all these school shootings, doesn't it? And all these 549 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.420 terrorist events that go off. 550 00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:17.500 Murders. 551 00:34:17.579 --> 00:34:22.510 The most recent, the Lindsay Clancy case where she claimed 552 00:34:22.550 --> 00:34:27.070 that voices told her to kill her children. Whether that's 553 00:34:27.130 --> 00:34:30.409 an excuse or not, but that's been used for a 554 00:34:30.449 --> 00:34:33.929 really long time. William DeFeo in the Amityville horror case, 555 00:34:33.989 --> 00:34:35.730 that was the reason that he said that he killed 556 00:34:35.769 --> 00:34:39.489 his entire family, was that the voices told him to 557 00:34:39.550 --> 00:34:43.090 do it. You know, so when you get into this, 558 00:34:43.170 --> 00:34:46.199 it's like, well, this explains a lot of stuff. This explains, 559 00:34:46.980 --> 00:34:50.659 this could even possibly explain like paranormal activity. Maybe it's 560 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:55.239 not even like a disembodied spirit. Maybe it's not even 561 00:34:55.300 --> 00:34:59.659 like a poltergeist. It could just be somebody else alive. 562 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:03.610 Because there's this thing that's called. 563 00:35:05.829 --> 00:35:09.719 Lynn Buchanan talks about this, which is in the movie. 564 00:35:10.409 --> 00:35:12.199 He didn't talk about it in the movie, but he's 565 00:35:12.219 --> 00:35:15.300 talked about it on my show before. And he says 566 00:35:15.380 --> 00:35:20.800 that there was this remote viewing technique that was developed 567 00:35:20.860 --> 00:35:25.000 by Ingo Swann. Now, this is what he says. I 568 00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:30.019 can't verify that this is 100% true. I'm just basing 569 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:31.380 this off of what he said. He said it was 570 00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:38.619 called perfect sight integration. And perfect site integration was this 571 00:35:40.449 --> 00:35:43.610 remote viewing technique that got you outside of your body 572 00:35:44.210 --> 00:35:47.690 and took you directly to the location that you were 573 00:35:47.730 --> 00:35:53.449 trying to view. And it was an advanced technique because 574 00:35:53.510 --> 00:35:56.530 it gave you the ability

to interact with the environment. 575 00:35:58.750 --> 00:36:04.050 Like you could change things as this duplicate astral version 576 00:36:04.070 --> 00:36:09.349 of of yourself you can interact you can move things 577 00:36:09.489 --> 00:36:11.340 like it would be like in the middle of the 578 00:36:11.380 --> 00:36:13.699 night if i was able to get outside of my 579 00:36:13.739 --> 00:36:15.760 body and travel to you mark devlin and then i 580 00:36:15.780 --> 00:36:19.480 just started knocking shit off of your table in the 581 00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.429 middle of the night well you couldn't see me right 582 00:36:22.449 --> 00:36:25.170 because i'd be in an astral version of myself so 583 00:36:25.210 --> 00:36:27.610 you would think that holy shit my house is haunted 584 00:36:28.989 --> 00:36:30.550 You know, but I'm actually just in there playing a 585 00:36:30.610 --> 00:36:33.050 prank on you and slamming the doors and I'm in 586 00:36:33.090 --> 00:36:37.349 the kitchen making a ruckus, flipping pans and closing cabinets 587 00:36:37.409 --> 00:36:37.769 and shit. 588 00:36:38.610 --> 00:36:42.139 It is another explanation for ghosts and poltergeists, isn't it? 589 00:36:43.289 --> 00:36:46.599 I've always thought that that was really interesting outlook on 590 00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:48.659 it because, you know, we've never really been able to 591 00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:54.190 explain the poltergeist like, And I think that that's a 592 00:36:54.250 --> 00:36:57.489 really solid explanation. I mean, it doesn't explain all of it, 593 00:36:57.530 --> 00:37:02.340 but it definitely could explain a portion of it that 594 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.239 it doesn't have to be a dead entity or a 595 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.480 dead spirit or a disembodied spirit. It can literally just 596 00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.119 be somebody that's alive or dead. Maybe they're just, their 597 00:37:12.179 --> 00:37:16.139 energy is so connected to the area and that when 598 00:37:16.179 --> 00:37:18.260 they're still alive and they want to be there really 599 00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:21.570 bad and then they just go there at night in 600 00:37:21.610 --> 00:37:23.590 their dream state and in their astral state and they 601 00:37:23.610 --> 00:37:28.369 don't even know. You know, that's also a possibility that 602 00:37:29.570 --> 00:37:35.659 our dreams are also interacting with our reality somehow. You know, 603 00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:40.079 because there's always a point Throughout any time of the day, 604 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.000 we're at some point in the country where people are sleeping. 605 00:37:43.940 --> 00:37:45.940 Any time that you're awake or any time that you're asleep, 606 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.159 there's somebody somewhere in the world that's sleeping. So it 607 00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:53.000 could be that they are interacting with you in this 608 00:37:53.059 --> 00:37:55.949 reality within the dream state, which brings in a whole 609 00:37:56.090 --> 00:38:00.329 other different conversation there. Right. 610 00:38:01.329 --> 00:38:05.590 So the GATE program for selecting gifted and talented children 611 00:38:05.650 --> 00:38:08.210 out of the public school system, Is that something you've 612 00:38:08.250 --> 00:38:11.949 identified as just happening in the United States or is 613 00:38:11.989 --> 00:38:14.739 that going to be happening in other nations? I'm specifically 614 00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:19.079 wondering about the UK because, again, I can't remember if 615 00:38:19.099 --> 00:38:21.579 I brought this dude up in our previous conversations, but 616 00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:27.440 are you familiar with a TV presenter and like psychic 617 00:38:27.739 --> 00:38:31.170 sort of guy, Derren Brown? You know him? 618 00:38:31.900 --> 00:38:33.780 I have heard of Darren Brown. It might have been 619 00:38:33.860 --> 00:38:37.659 actually from you that was telling me about him. He's 620 00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:39.429 a stage magician, right? 621 00:38:39.699 --> 00:38:42.070 Magician, yeah. It may have been me last time, yeah. 622 00:38:42.369 --> 00:38:44.710 He's kind of like a British version of David Blaine, 623 00:38:44.909 --> 00:38:47.769 I guess. He does similar mind tricks. And he had 624 00:38:47.809 --> 00:38:50.650 a TV show on Channel 4 for years. And he's 625 00:38:50.710 --> 00:38:54.670 absolutely fascinating. I've been to his live shows. He does hypnosis. 626 00:38:54.710 --> 00:38:56.969 He does mind reading. He does all kinds of other 627 00:38:57.329 --> 00:39:00.670 seemingly psychic tricks, even though he denies that he's doing 628 00:39:00.730 --> 00:39:05.010 anything psychic. He's an atheist, he says, and everything he 629 00:39:05.070 --> 00:39:08.730 does can be rationally explained. It's just showmanship and sleight 630 00:39:08.750 --> 00:39:10.789 of hand. I'm not sure I believe him when he 631 00:39:10.849 --> 00:39:13.829 says that, but that's the way he explains what he does. 632 00:39:14.449 --> 00:39:16.889 But he had this thing that he once demonstrated on 633 00:39:16.929 --> 00:39:19.769 one of his TV shows. And he said that, uh, 634 00:39:20.090 --> 00:39:23.719 he used to get bullied at school and he developed 635 00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.760 this ability where when he was getting bullied and smacked about, 636 00:39:28.500 --> 00:39:34.159 he could, uh, count, uh, like seemingly impossible numbers of things. 637 00:39:34.780 --> 00:39:37.119 And he demonstrated on one of his shows by getting 638 00:39:37.139 --> 00:39:39.719 a volunteer to smack him really hard around the face. 639 00:39:39.980 --> 00:39:42.239 And he kept saying harder, harder, hit me harder. And 640 00:39:42.460 --> 00:39:44.940 when he'd been adequately smacked around the face, he would 641 00:39:44.980 --> 00:39:47.320 pour out this jar of buttons and look at them. 642 00:39:48.050 --> 00:39:49.980 And be able to tell how many buttons were there 643

00:39:50.019 --> 00:39:53.500 on the table. And it was like 283 buttons or something. 644 00:39:53.780 --> 00:39:56.940 And he got it within one button. And he says 645 00:39:56.980 --> 00:39:59.360 that's an ability that came about as a result of 646 00:40:00.099 --> 00:40:02.800 being smacked about, which is trauma, right? Again, so it's 647 00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.489 trauma unlocking these abilities in the mind, seemingly. And he 648 00:40:06.550 --> 00:40:09.829 turned it into like a stage trick. But this guy 649 00:40:09.949 --> 00:40:11.849 is just incredible in terms of what he can do 650 00:40:11.889 --> 00:40:14.449 with his mind. And it just reminds me of people 651 00:40:14.489 --> 00:40:18.489 like Charlie Kirk, for example. who is also mentioned in 652 00:40:18.530 --> 00:40:21.489 your documentary as somebody who seemingly came out of one 653 00:40:21.530 --> 00:40:25.059 of these gifted programs. And he was tapped early on 654 00:40:25.179 --> 00:40:28.099 for a future career in politics because of some of 655 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.679 these abilities that he showed. And I've been watching a 656 00:40:30.739 --> 00:40:32.880 bunch of debates that this guy had with a lot 657 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:37.889 of these wokey sort of liberal lefty university types. And 658 00:40:37.949 --> 00:40:41.110 the way he debates is just incredible. He's just razor sharp. 659 00:40:41.389 --> 00:40:44.150 He's straight on it. He puts these arguments down in 660 00:40:44.170 --> 00:40:47.380 an instant. And I don't think that's a regular thing. 661 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:52.440 That's something that's very special. It's very special mental abilities 662 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.840 to be able to think that sharply. And so it 663 00:40:54.860 --> 00:40:56.719 wouldn't surprise me at all if he came out of 664 00:40:56.780 --> 00:40:59.340 one of these programs. But I'm just wondering if people 665 00:40:59.389 --> 00:41:02.570 like Derren Brown may have done as well. And when 666 00:41:02.590 --> 00:41:04.829 we see these people in the public eye, they've got 667 00:41:04.869 --> 00:41:08.829 there because they were identified early in childhood as having 668 00:41:08.869 --> 00:41:12.010 these incredible abilities that could be used in some way 669 00:41:12.289 --> 00:41:13.809 to benefit the system. 670 00:41:16.289 --> 00:41:20.030 That is very interesting, Mark, because if you recall, I 671 00:41:20.300 --> 00:41:24.400 show a clip in psychic agent, the gate program of 672 00:41:24.820 --> 00:41:31.269 Marilyn Manson, essentially seeing that exact same thing. That's right. 673 00:41:31.289 --> 00:41:33.190 And it was Manson that made me think of Darren 674 00:41:33.210 --> 00:41:34.090 Brown when he said that. 675 00:41:35.670 --> 00:41:40.110 Unbelievable. Yeah, that's what he said, that he was going 676 00:41:40.150 --> 00:41:43.869 to that the CIA wanted to recruit him for his 677 00:41:44.050 --> 00:41:46.570 ability to count the amount of things in a room 678 00:41:46.610 --> 00:41:48.739 before anybody could ever recognize how many people were in 679 00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:50.360 a room, how many light sockets were in a room 680 00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:52.099 before anybody. 681 00:41:52.139 --> 00:41:54.139 So you've got you've got Manson saying that in the 682 00:41:54.179 --> 00:41:57.219 United States, you've got Darren Brown saying it in England. 683 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.400 So it makes me wonder whether this is an international program. 684 00:42:02.550 --> 00:42:04.449 I think that it is. I mean, there's been several 685 00:42:04.469 --> 00:42:06.639 people that has reached out to me after they have 686 00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:10.000 watched the movie. And actually, as I during the making 687 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:11.800 of the movie, because I had reached out to people, 688 00:42:11.820 --> 00:42:14.880 I was like, hey, if anybody could email me their 689 00:42:14.900 --> 00:42:17.780 experiences in the gay program, like, let me know if 690 00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:20.760 you were in gifted and talented education. Several people reached 691 00:42:20.820 --> 00:42:22.389 out to me from the UK and said that they 692 00:42:22.409 --> 00:42:25.599 were involved in a very similar program. People reached out 693 00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:28.219 to me from Australia and said that they were in 694 00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:31.460 a very similar program and in Canada as well. So 695 00:42:31.500 --> 00:42:36.019 this definitely seems like it's a complete global thing. And, 696 00:42:36.860 --> 00:42:40.110 you know, you're 100% right about Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk 697 00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.769 was in a gay program school. It was in Palatine, Illinois, 698 00:42:44.869 --> 00:42:48.869 called Creative Children's Academy. It's now been renamed Quest Academy 699 00:42:50.230 --> 00:42:56.829 in 1999. Lance Twiggs, the gay lover... of Tyler Robinson, 700 00:42:56.849 --> 00:43:00.929 the guy who's been charged with the assassination of Charlie Kirk, 701 00:43:01.530 --> 00:43:04.949 also went to a gate program school called Utah Tech 702 00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:08.780 Success Academy. He was a highly gifted piano player and 703 00:43:10.579 --> 00:43:13.880 started then getting into, you know, drugs and alcohol, which 704 00:43:13.940 --> 00:43:18.840 kind of happens when you You know, reject that type 705 00:43:18.940 --> 00:43:27.280 of programming, you end up on a self-destructive path. it's 706 00:43:27.300 --> 00:43:30.309 like a switch flips within you. And that's kind of 707 00:43:30.349 --> 00:43:34.530 what was happening to Charlie as well was that he was, 708 00:43:35.349 --> 00:43:40.750 he realized that he had been handled and pushed into 709 00:43:40.929 --> 00:43:44.500 a certain direction that his like doors had been opened 710 00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:46.460 for him that otherwise wouldn't have been open for him. 711 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.260 It doesn't

mean that he didn't have any talent. Obviously 712 00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:55.199 he had an immense amount of talent, but that, you know, opportunities, uh, 713 00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.969 were given to him that other people that may have 714 00:43:59.010 --> 00:44:01.929 been just as talented would not have been given to 715 00:44:01.989 --> 00:44:04.309 those people. It's kind of like with the music stuff, 716 00:44:04.329 --> 00:44:09.230 you know, how many, how many singers were just as good, 717 00:44:09.289 --> 00:44:12.869 if not better than Elvis, but Elvis was the one 718 00:44:12.909 --> 00:44:15.949 that made it. How many musicians and singers were better 719 00:44:16.010 --> 00:44:16.780 than the Beatles? 720 00:44:17.699 --> 00:44:19.619 But the Beatles, we all know some, don't we? 721 00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:23.619 But the Beatles were the ones that were popular and 722 00:44:23.659 --> 00:44:25.400 the ones that were pushed out there and the ones 723 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.059 that made all this money and were able to go 724 00:44:28.139 --> 00:44:31.659 on to do giant stadium tours and that are the 725 00:44:31.739 --> 00:44:35.409 instantly recognizable most popular band in the history of the world. 726 00:44:35.969 --> 00:44:36.170 Right. 727 00:44:36.230 --> 00:44:41.590 And And that's just a testament to what can be 728 00:44:41.670 --> 00:44:46.369 done through some of these programs. They can just open 729 00:44:46.429 --> 00:44:49.309 doors for you and put you around people and handle 730 00:44:49.369 --> 00:44:51.710 you and push you in a certain direction. But if 731 00:44:51.750 --> 00:44:57.639 you start to go off of that path, things start 732 00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:01.980 to happen to you. Kind of exactly like what happened 733 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.360 with John Lennon, right? The same thing that happened with 734 00:45:06.420 --> 00:45:09.099 Charlie Kirk. When you start to get off the reservation 735 00:45:09.139 --> 00:45:11.519 there a little bit, and John Lennon is a completely 736 00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:15.539 different situation, but the outcome is still the same. The 737 00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:18.099 same things essentially happened to both of them, right? 738 00:45:19.139 --> 00:45:22.670 Well, they both got blown away, yeah. No longer required, 739 00:45:22.869 --> 00:45:23.869 surplus to requirements. 740 00:45:24.429 --> 00:45:26.010 Exactly, and Lance Twiggs' family. 741 00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:33.889 Had multiple loans and mortgages on their $ 700, 000 home in 742 00:45:34.010 --> 00:45:37.409 Utah for several years. Okay, and then just a few 743 00:45:37.449 --> 00:45:42.960 months after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, Lance Twiggs' family was 744 00:45:43.059 --> 00:45:45.900 able to then pay off that $ 700, 000 loan, move to Texas. 745 00:45:51.340 --> 00:45:56.199 While their son is the key witness of one of 746 00:45:56.219 --> 00:46:01.360 the biggest high-profile political assassinations in

modern history, they were 747 00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:10.940 able to buy multiple houses. startup multiple businesses, charitable nonprofit organizations, 748 00:46:11.940 --> 00:46:17.119 and the mission statement for one of those nonprofit organization 749 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.170 is just, you know, how like if you're starting like 750 00:46:20.210 --> 00:46:22.949 a company or an organization or something, you have to 751 00:46:22.989 --> 00:46:26.550 like give a detailed description to the IRS. I don't 752 00:46:26.570 --> 00:46:28.030 know what it's like in the UK, but I would 753 00:46:28.070 --> 00:46:29.869 imagine that you have to do the same thing. We 754 00:46:29.909 --> 00:46:32.489 have to give a description. It's quite similar. a description 755 00:46:32.510 --> 00:46:35.210 of what your business is doing and how it's operating 756 00:46:35.250 --> 00:46:40.050 and everything. While the description for Lance twigs is families, 757 00:46:40.449 --> 00:46:46.929 nonprofit organization says just charity. That's, that's what our charitable 758 00:46:46.989 --> 00:46:49.360 organization is doing is just charity. 759 00:46:51.099 --> 00:46:51.199 Right. 760 00:46:51.219 --> 00:46:52.860 And then when you look into like, Oh, what is 761 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:56.599 all these charities actually doing? They're just giant money laundering operations. Right. 762 00:46:58.380 --> 00:47:02.920 That's another thing is like, St. Jude, like, I think 763 00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:04.840 that this is really what we should be really pissed 764 00:47:04.900 --> 00:47:08.130 off about. We should be really pissed off about these 765 00:47:08.610 --> 00:47:12.969 charitable organizations that don't seem to fix a damn thing, Mark. 766 00:47:13.820 --> 00:47:17.099 They don't fix anything. How long has St. Jude been 767 00:47:17.139 --> 00:47:19.960 doing cancer research? This is what we should be pissed 768 00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:23.010 off at. We shouldn't be pissed off at somebody saying 769 00:47:23.030 --> 00:47:25.570 that Tupac was an actor and was out there to, 770 00:47:26.329 --> 00:47:29.969 you know, demoralize an entire generation. And there was a 771 00:47:29.989 --> 00:47:34.679 CIA plant for the military industrial prison complex, right? We 772 00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.300 shouldn't be pissed off about that. We should be pissed 773 00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:43.639 off at these freaking people. programs and charity organizations like St. 774 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:47.500 Jude that take billions of dollars in every year and 775 00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:51.440 don't do anything. They are no closer to finding a 776 00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:55.659 cure for cancer than they were 30 freaking years ago, Mark. 777 00:47:56.699 --> 00:47:59.429 One day we'll find a cure for cancer. No, you won't. 778 00:47:59.949 --> 00:48:03.449 Because then you wouldn't exist and your CEO wouldn't get 779 00:48:03.510 --> 00:48:06.329 paid and your shareholders wouldn't

get paid. The last thing 780 00:48:06.349 --> 00:48:09.210 you want to do is find a cure for it. Meanwhile, 781 00:48:09.269 --> 00:48:11.929 more people get ill every year, more money is taken 782 00:48:11.969 --> 00:48:15.269 to find a cure, and the further and further away 783 00:48:15.630 --> 00:48:17.780 we seem to drift from ever finding one. Well, there 784 00:48:17.820 --> 00:48:20.659 are cures for cancer, actually, but we're not allowed to 785 00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:22.780 talk about those, are we? Real cures. 786 00:48:23.940 --> 00:48:28.159 Exactly. It's so freaking ridiculous, and it really upsets me, 787 00:48:28.219 --> 00:48:31.019 if you can't tell. It just irks me, it grinds 788 00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:36.849 my gears that we've been You know, the people continuously 789 00:48:37.130 --> 00:48:41.429 donate to organizations that don't do freaking anything. It's set 790 00:48:41.530 --> 00:48:43.880 up to pay off all the people that work at 791 00:48:43.909 --> 00:48:48.019 the NGOs, the CEOs, and it goes right into their pockets. 792 00:48:48.059 --> 00:48:50.039 And then it's a money laundering system to the people 793 00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.539 that donate because those people sit on the boards of 794 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:56.119 all those corporations. So any kind of laundering that they 795 00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:59.460 need done, they'll just donate to that corporation or that 796 00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:01.559 charity that they said on the board of. And it 797 00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:03.340 goes right back into their freaking pockets. 798 00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:06.780 And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. And 799 00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:08.949 one thing that pisses me off before this turns into 800 00:49:08.989 --> 00:49:12.929 a rant fest, but it is relevant, is we're coming 801 00:49:12.969 --> 00:49:15.610 up to the time of year, November, where in the 802 00:49:15.789 --> 00:49:19.949 UK we have to suffer the BBC's Children in Need. 803 00:49:20.369 --> 00:49:24.429 annual appeal. So this is where BBC TV and radio 804 00:49:25.289 --> 00:49:29.139 rattle the tins and try and emotionally coerce people into 805 00:49:29.179 --> 00:49:32.960 giving money for children. You know, let's help the children. 806 00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:37.480 This is the same BBC that employed Jimmy Savile and 807 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:41.909 endless amounts of pdf files who have been shown to 808 00:49:41.949 --> 00:49:46.070 be so continually employed them for decades and decades and 809 00:49:46.110 --> 00:49:50.429 decades but meanwhile they want to moralize everyone about how 810 00:49:50.489 --> 00:49:52.730 they need to part with their money to help these 811 00:49:52.769 --> 00:49:55.510 poor children i don't really see them knocking on the 812 00:49:55.530 --> 00:49:58.829 doors of the rothschilds and you know the royal family 813 00:49:58.869 --> 00:50:01.289 and asking them for donations no it has to be 814 00:50:01.389

--> 00:50:05.449 regular everyday folk who are already being financially pressed they're 815 00:50:05.469 --> 00:50:08.190 the ones that are being goaded into giving more money 816 00:50:08.449 --> 00:50:12.170 by a corporation which has put many, many children at 817 00:50:12.269 --> 00:50:16.159 great risk. So never mind children in need. They're probably 818 00:50:16.219 --> 00:50:19.900 in need because of the BBC. But anyway, like I say, 819 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:21.099 don't get me started on that one. 820 00:50:21.380 --> 00:50:24.440 That's exactly right, Mark. You just hit the nail on 821 00:50:24.460 --> 00:50:27.179 the head. The people that are claiming to do the 822 00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:29.280 things for the children are actually the ones that are 823 00:50:29.300 --> 00:50:32.360 responsible for doing the things to them. Right. 824 00:50:32.550 --> 00:50:36.090 Children would be a whole lot safer without these corporations around. 825 00:50:39.030 --> 00:50:43.889 Yes, it's exactly right. That is the biggest crime of all, 826 00:50:44.030 --> 00:50:48.170 is that the people that are claiming to help are 827 00:50:48.230 --> 00:50:50.719 the ones that are actually causing the problem. And that 828 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:56.280 has been the story of any government institution since the 829 00:50:56.300 --> 00:50:57.960 beginning of time. Right. 830 00:50:58.420 --> 00:51:02.960 And also, governmental institutions, or at least the third-party operations 831 00:51:02.980 --> 00:51:06.909 that they are in league with, create money out of nothing, 832 00:51:07.130 --> 00:51:11.110 literally out of thin air. They print so-called money and 833 00:51:11.150 --> 00:51:14.150 they type figures onto a computer screen and there's a 834 00:51:14.190 --> 00:51:17.409 million dollars that wasn't there before. So if they can 835 00:51:17.510 --> 00:51:20.579 literally create money out of nothing, how come they don't 836 00:51:20.699 --> 00:51:24.960 create money to alleviate all these situations of poverty and 837 00:51:25.219 --> 00:51:29.360 children in need and to really research a cure for cancer? 838 00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:31.480 You wouldn't need to go after regular members of the 839 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.030 public rattling your tin, getting them to part with their 840 00:51:34.070 --> 00:51:36.829 cash when you could literally create the money out of nothing. 841 00:51:37.260 --> 00:51:40.469 They create money out of nothing for wars, to fund wars, 842 00:51:40.989 --> 00:51:42.610 but they don't seem to be able to fund things 843 00:51:42.650 --> 00:51:46.949 that actually benefit humanity. I know I'm sounding like myself 844 00:51:46.949 --> 00:51:50.329 20 years ago here when I first went into conspiracy research, 845 00:51:50.369 --> 00:51:54.929 but that's because nothing's actually changed in 20 years or 846 00:51:54.929 --> 00:51:56.489 200 years or 2000 years. 847 00:51:57.570 --> 00:52:01.469 Imagine that, Mark, a world where

our problems are actually solved. 848 00:52:01.489 --> 00:52:04.610 And I'll tell you exactly why that those problems will 849 00:52:04.650 --> 00:52:08.789 never be solved because there's Millions of dollars that are 850 00:52:08.989 --> 00:52:13.530 allocated to solving those problems, but they don't actually go 851 00:52:13.610 --> 00:52:17.539 into solving those problems. They line the pockets of the politicians. 852 00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.659 Or they get funneled into black ops projects like the 853 00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.230 ones we've been talking about here off the books. 854 00:52:26.449 --> 00:52:30.769 That's where it all goes. That's exactly right. I mean, 855 00:52:30.789 --> 00:52:33.769 that's been set up with Danny Casolaro. He kind of 856 00:52:33.829 --> 00:52:38.429 broke that entire thing and this fragmented part of the CIA, 857 00:52:38.590 --> 00:52:43.070 this black budget CIA that went to Native American reservations 858 00:52:43.110 --> 00:52:45.570 within the United States because they were able to operate 859 00:52:45.829 --> 00:52:50.380 without government oversight on Native American reservations. And then they 860 00:52:50.389 --> 00:52:52.840 would set up all of these. That's how they would 861 00:52:52.860 --> 00:52:55.000 run their drugs. That's how they would run their guns. 862 00:52:55.019 --> 00:52:58.079 That's how they would run their trafficking operations. was out 863 00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:01.440 of these native American reservations. And they were actually the 864 00:53:01.539 --> 00:53:04.639 ones that got them into the whole gambling thing. That's 865 00:53:04.780 --> 00:53:06.809 how they got them to build all these casinos because 866 00:53:06.829 --> 00:53:09.730 the casinos were giant money laundering operations for this block 867 00:53:09.789 --> 00:53:10.769 budget CIA. 868 00:53:13.610 --> 00:53:17.190 That's probably why we've got so many Turkish barbershops here 869 00:53:17.230 --> 00:53:18.800 in the UK. Now, I don't know if it's the 870 00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:22.860 same in America, but any town of any reasonable size 871 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.500 that you go into anywhere in the UK is you'll 872 00:53:25.539 --> 00:53:28.480 find about eight to 10 Turkish barber shops. How many 873 00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:32.500 Turkish barber shops does one town need? And you can 874 00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:35.400 pass these shops and there's never any customers in there. 875 00:53:36.059 --> 00:53:37.539 And you think, well, how do these guys stay in 876 00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:40.340 business then? How do they make money? And you know 877 00:53:40.409 --> 00:53:43.429 that many of them have to be laundering operations. Many 878 00:53:43.449 --> 00:53:46.590 of these vape shops as well, you've got like 12 879 00:53:46.590 --> 00:53:50.590 vape shops in the average British high street. So they've 880 00:53:50.630 --> 00:53:53.210 just sprung up out of nowhere and there's got to 881 00:53:53.230 -->

00:53:54.429 be a real reason for that. 882 00:53:55.670 --> 00:53:58.420 Well, that's kind of what Walter Bosley is talking about 883 00:53:58.460 --> 00:54:02.539 within the movie Psychic Agent, The Gate Program, is that 884 00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:08.570 the CIA, the FBI, these intelligence organizations can literally set 885 00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:13.809 up an operation. That for a front business and you 886 00:54:13.829 --> 00:54:16.820 would never know that it was an FBI or CIA 887 00:54:17.460 --> 00:54:21.719 front company because it looks like a regular freaking business. 888 00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.579 He used the example of like you could be working 889 00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.920 for a donut shop and not know that you're a 890 00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:31.159 part of an FBI undercover operation has been running for 891 00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.619 10 years. And he says that he knows this because 892 00:54:33.659 --> 00:54:35.809 he was involved in them. He was involved in one 893 00:54:35.849 --> 00:54:38.750 in Manhattan that was a 10-year operation against the Soviets 894 00:54:38.789 --> 00:54:43.809 that was in a building that was a very famous building. 895 00:54:43.829 --> 00:54:45.550 He told me the name of it, but he didn't 896 00:54:45.590 --> 00:54:48.239 want me to let out that information because he doesn't 897 00:54:48.260 --> 00:54:51.059 know if they're still using it. But I actually show 898 00:54:52.380 --> 00:54:54.739 the visual representation of the building in the movie, but 899 00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:56.900 we just couldn't say it, right? You can show it, 900 00:54:56.900 --> 00:55:00.179 but you can't say it. And he said that only 901 00:55:00.409 --> 00:55:03.610 two people in the entire building knew that his son 902 00:55:04.349 --> 00:55:07.949 operation was an undercover FBI operation. And that's kind of 903 00:55:08.750 --> 00:55:11.909 really what the whole thing is, is it's so concealed 904 00:55:11.949 --> 00:55:15.360 and so compartmentalized that you would never know who is 905 00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.480 funding this organization, who is funding this business. I mean, 906 00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:21.000 there was a whole thing that came out a couple 907 00:55:21.019 --> 00:55:24.909 of years ago about how Mossad was using the, um, 908 00:55:26.530 --> 00:55:32.760 But the intermediaries and malls, like the mall kiosk that you, 909 00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:36.159 you know, you're walking down like a regular mall, like 910 00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:38.099 an inside mall and you have the kiosk in the 911 00:55:38.139 --> 00:55:39.400 center of the mall. I don't know how they do 912 00:55:39.420 --> 00:55:42.969 it in the UK, but they were saying that that 913 00:55:42.989 --> 00:55:49.710 those mall kiosk were Mossad operations. So it's like, well, 914 00:55:49.730 --> 00:55:51.789 you know, what's what's actually going on here? How many 915 00:55:51.809 --> 00:55:58.960 of these businesses are actually FBI? cia front organizations and 916 00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:03.860 front businesses that are carrying out legitimate operations in front 917 00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:05.369 of our faces and we don't even know. 918 00:56:05.260 --> 00:56:10.119 It you'll never know and just going back to what 919 00:56:10.179 --> 00:56:14.489 you discuss in psychic agent there there's the suggestion that 920 00:56:14.889 --> 00:56:16.690 a lot of these psychic powers that they were trying 921 00:56:16.730 --> 00:56:21.429 to develop and harness in children were eventually being used 922 00:56:21.590 --> 00:56:28.110 to assassinate people remotely remote assassinations. Makes me wonder, actually, 923 00:56:28.369 --> 00:56:30.650 if that's what they did to Stanley Kubrick when he 924 00:56:30.690 --> 00:56:32.590 finally pissed him off and went a step too far. 925 00:56:32.849 --> 00:56:35.210 And he just happened to have a heart attack right 926 00:56:35.250 --> 00:56:38.329 before Eyes Wide Shut was released. But there's the idea 927 00:56:38.369 --> 00:56:42.280 that you can assassinate somebody remotely. And you got Lynn 928 00:56:42.300 --> 00:56:45.500 Buchanan in the show who says that he was actually 929 00:56:45.739 --> 00:56:49.539 asked to assassinate Osama bin Laden. And he refused to 930 00:56:49.579 --> 00:56:52.039 do it because he said he wasn't going to kill anyone. 931 00:56:53.139 --> 00:56:57.289 So There's the movie, The Men Who Stare at Goats, 932 00:56:57.929 --> 00:57:01.510 starring George Clooney, that came out some years ago. And 933 00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:06.719 that seems to take this idea, but treat it in 934 00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:10.860 a very mocking, parody, kind of spoofy sort of way. 935 00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:15.199 And it's ostensibly a comedy about these military guys who 936 00:57:15.260 --> 00:57:18.699 are trained to use psychic powers to kill goats. And 937 00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:21.489 it seems there's more of telling us what really goes 938 00:57:21.590 --> 00:57:24.510 on there but they've obviously dressed it up to be 939 00:57:24.590 --> 00:57:27.909 this fairly ridiculous thing. It's similar to what they were 940 00:57:27.949 --> 00:57:30.610 doing in Stranger Things. They're telling you what really goes on, 941 00:57:31.380 --> 00:57:33.840 but because it forms the narrative of a TV show 942 00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:37.440 or a movie, most people who've never looked into these 943 00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:41.000 things would never imagine that they're being told the truth 944 00:57:41.059 --> 00:57:45.840 about technology that actually exists. It goes back to this 945 00:57:46.349 --> 00:57:50.429 tenet that they seem to need to continually observe of 946 00:57:50.530 --> 00:57:53.789 telling us what they're doing but just not being open 947 00:57:53.829 --> 00:57:56.849 and candid about it, doing it in cryptic coded form 948 00:57:57.409 --> 00:57:58.449 through popular culture. 949 00:58:01.610 --> 00:58:08.420 Lynn

told me off recording off screen that, uh, yes, 950 00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:11.179 it is possible. What she says it in the movie 951 00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:15.000 is like, it is possible to, uh, psychically assassinate someone. 952 00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:18.510 And The Minister of Goats was actually a combination of 953 00:58:19.250 --> 00:58:21.730 a few different programs. One of the programs that was 954 00:58:21.889 --> 00:58:27.050 never disclosed, that apparently had to do with psychic abilities 955 00:58:27.150 --> 00:58:32.820 being used in combat, and the Stargate remote viewing unit. 956 00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.739 It was a comedy spin. I thought it was really funny. 957 00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:37.559 I actually really liked the movie. Lynn thought that it 958 00:58:37.619 --> 00:58:40.780 was funny as well. But the main character in there, 959 00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:45.469 Lynn Cassidy... is based off of Lynn Buchanan. I mean, 960 00:58:45.489 --> 00:58:47.860 they both have the exact same name. And some of 961 00:58:47.900 --> 00:58:51.159 the things that were attributed to Lynn Cassidy in the 962 00:58:51.219 --> 00:58:54.760 movie are some of the things that, you know, Lynn 963 00:58:54.780 --> 00:58:58.840 Buchanan says happened to him or that he was involved with. 964 00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:03.530 Of course, things are embellished for, you know, the movies 965 00:59:04.050 --> 00:59:08.030 and Hollywood. But he said that, yes, it is possible 966 00:59:08.110 --> 00:59:11.820 to psychically assassinate someone But then he told me off camera, 967 00:59:11.860 --> 00:59:15.500 he was like, you know, what would you rather do, Ryder? 968 00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:26.159 Would you rather... Have someone just die in a cave, right? Like, 969 00:59:26.860 --> 00:59:30.179 if I were to just, you know, kill Osama bin 970 00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:34.659 Laden with my mind, like, what is that really going 971 00:59:34.699 --> 00:59:39.630 to do? You know, what is, it's not going to 972 00:59:39.690 --> 00:59:43.650 be dramatic if he just dies of a heart attack. 973 00:59:45.260 --> 00:59:47.940 Because that's the way that he explained to me. He 974 00:59:47.980 --> 00:59:51.260 didn't exactly say that that's how... I had to fish 975 00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:56.179 around with him because he's a very high-ranking intelligence. He 976 00:59:56.219 --> 01:00:00.849 had a very high-ranking clearance. He claims like... above the 977 01:00:00.889 --> 01:00:05.010 president during the time that he was in the military. 978 01:00:05.989 --> 01:00:10.440 And only a very few, few other people had that 979 01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.960 high of a security clearance. And he had information about 980 01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:16.559 things that didn't have anything to do with remote viewing. 981 01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:19.289 He had information, top secret clearance on a lot of 982 01:00:19.369 --> 01:00:23.500 other different things, but he said, well, Yeah, you could

983 01:00:23.539 --> 01:00:25.800 do that. You could just take somebody out psychically, but 984 01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:29.500 that's not going to create the political upheaval in the 985 01:00:29.619 --> 01:00:33.090 whole persona and the agenda that you want to push, right? 986 01:00:33.630 --> 01:00:39.750 The best way to do it would be to convince 987 01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:45.179 somebody else to carry out the act. Get into somebody 988 01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:50.900 else's head. Convince them that they need to go out 989 01:00:51.019 --> 01:00:53.019 and assassinate, kill. 990 01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:54.909 Or murder somebody. 991 01:00:54.929 --> 01:00:59.929 Right. And then have them do it. Because then you also... 992 01:01:01.449 --> 01:01:05.070 They're also kind of skirting around the karmic repercussions of 993 01:01:05.090 --> 01:01:10.389 that because Dale Graff, the operations manager of the Stargate 994 01:01:10.429 --> 01:01:12.760 remote viewing unit, comes in there and talks about it. 995 01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:14.519 And he was like, yeah, well, you know, there's a 996 01:01:14.539 --> 01:01:19.519 blowback effect to doing that type of work to mentally, 997 01:01:19.579 --> 01:01:23.039 psychically assassinating someone. You're going to get a lot of 998 01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:27.030 karmic repercussions for doing that. And I think that's also 999 01:01:27.090 --> 01:01:29.909 why They kind of have to tell us what they're 1000 01:01:29.929 --> 01:01:32.230 doing before they do it because it's a karmic thing 1001 01:01:32.309 --> 01:01:35.250 as well as like a predictive programming thing. They want 1002 01:01:35.269 --> 01:01:40.469 to get around the karmic repercussions of doing inhumane things 1003 01:01:41.030 --> 01:01:45.639 against the population. So they tell you before they do it. 1004 01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:47.300 By telling you they're going to do it. And then 1005 01:01:47.340 --> 01:01:49.280 when you don't object, they see it as a green 1006 01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:50.579 light because you didn't say no. 1007 01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:51.960 Boom. 1008 01:01:51.980 --> 01:01:53.480 Which is a sick way of looking at it. 1009 01:01:54.139 --> 01:01:56.659 Very sick, but that's what's happening. And I think that 1010 01:01:56.719 --> 01:01:58.760 Lin is on to that. I think he's 100% on 1011 01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:02.829 to that. Because if Osama bin Laden just died of 1012 01:02:02.849 --> 01:02:05.829 a heart attack, then who really cares? You want to 1013 01:02:05.869 --> 01:02:08.929 have SEAL Team 6 go in, take him out, throw 1014 01:02:08.949 --> 01:02:10.789 his body in the ocean. We never get to see 1015 01:02:10.829 --> 01:02:14.929 his body, right? He's just gone. It's over. We've taken it. 1016 01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:19.139 So the American could go, hoorah, yeah, hoorah. We did it. 1017 01:02:19.260 --> 01:02:21.900 Ten years after he actually did die, by the way, 1018 01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:24.119 because they forgot to tell you that he died at 1019 01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:27.019 the end of 2001. But I guess that's not important. 1020 01:02:28.889 --> 01:02:31.769 And he was also a CIA asset. So they were 1021 01:02:31.789 --> 01:02:34.909 taking out one of their own. It seems that if 1022 01:02:34.929 --> 01:02:37.010 you get into bed with these people, they're not beyond 1023 01:02:37.590 --> 01:02:40.650 throwing you under a bus when they decided you've outlived 1024 01:02:40.690 --> 01:02:41.349 your usefulness. 1025 01:02:43.050 --> 01:02:46.639 They will take you out. They will character assassinate you. 1026 01:02:46.690 --> 01:02:49.469 They will try and, if that doesn't work, they'll try 1027 01:02:49.510 --> 01:02:52.389 and bankrupt you. They'll do anything in their power to. 1028 01:02:52.469 --> 01:02:53.789 Just ask P. Diddy, right? 1029 01:02:55.750 --> 01:02:59.610 Oh, Diddy, bro. That's another thing, too, along with the 1030 01:02:59.659 --> 01:03:03.760 Tupac stuff. I was like, so you guys believe that 1031 01:03:03.820 --> 01:03:08.230 Diddy was baby-oiling up and bending dudes over... But you 1032 01:03:08.269 --> 01:03:11.940 don't want to believe that it's a possibility that Tupac 1033 01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:14.719 was running that same way. Wow. 1034 01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:23.179 That's hero worship. And this is where the Manchurian candidate 1035 01:03:23.489 --> 01:03:26.530 stuff comes in as well, because if you can program 1036 01:03:26.610 --> 01:03:31.449 somebody like Mark Chapman or John Hinckley or Sirhan Sirhan 1037 01:03:31.949 --> 01:03:34.190 to go out and carry out one of these assassinations, 1038 01:03:34.780 --> 01:03:38.980 It becomes much more newsworthy and shocking and develops the 1039 01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:44.670 wanted public attitude than saying JFK passed away in the 1040 01:03:44.690 --> 01:03:47.570 night of a heart attack. If it's this violent event 1041 01:03:47.610 --> 01:03:50.449 that takes place in broad daylight, you could even throw 1042 01:03:50.510 --> 01:03:53.409 Tupac into that because we're told that he got shot 1043 01:03:53.449 --> 01:03:56.480 on the Las Vegas Strip in front of hundreds of 1044 01:03:56.599 --> 01:03:59.500 witnesses on one of the busiest streets in America, but 1045 01:03:59.539 --> 01:04:02.039 the cops took 30 years to catch anyone for it. 1046 01:04:02.630 --> 01:04:07.550 It just becomes more visual, more memorable, more shocking, more traumatizing, 1047 01:04:07.869 --> 01:04:09.389 which is the effect they're always after. 1048 01:04:10.889 --> 01:04:13.630 And that might have been a reason why people got 1049 01:04:13.710 --> 01:04:16.400 more upset with me this time around when I talked 1050 01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:20.519 about it, because that whole thing, they just arrested... Who 1051 01:04:20.539 --> 01:04:22.099 was the guy that they arrested for his murder? 1052 01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:24.599 Dwayne Keefy D. Davis. 1053 01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:27.760 What

a name, dude. Why does it have to deal 1054 01:04:27.780 --> 01:04:29.289 with these people's names, bro? 1055 01:04:30.429 --> 01:04:34.960 Yeah, some... Drug dealer, criminal sort of thing, you know. 1056 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:38.190 I mean, this guy's name has been coming up for decades, 1057 01:04:38.329 --> 01:04:41.969 but the cops, bless them, just took 30 years to 1058 01:04:42.070 --> 01:04:44.519 put a case together. Too busy eating donuts, I guess. 1059 01:04:46.630 --> 01:04:49.110 You know, it's so weird. Like just the people's names, 1060 01:04:49.190 --> 01:04:53.210 Bill Gates, you know, Gates, Gates of Hell, you know, 1061 01:04:53.309 --> 01:04:57.789 like Sam Altman, the Altar of Man. Like these people 1062 01:04:57.849 --> 01:05:01.829 have such weird freaking names like that, that seem so 1063 01:05:02.010 --> 01:05:09.920 on the nose that it's like. Like, what's the dude 1064 01:05:09.940 --> 01:05:15.360 that tried to assassinate Trump? Tyler Crooks? Like, what? Where 1065 01:05:15.380 --> 01:05:17.980 are they getting these people with these freaking names? It's 1066 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:22.179 like they're making fun of us with the names of 1067 01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:22.880 these people. 1068 01:05:23.429 --> 01:05:26.050 That was Tupac's name as well. His real name was Crooks. 1069 01:05:30.769 --> 01:05:31.409 Wild. 1070 01:05:32.150 --> 01:05:34.230 Yeah. Holy shit. 1071 01:05:35.989 --> 01:05:39.090 I think that that comes down to, I'm definitely not 1072 01:05:39.110 --> 01:05:40.949 going to go down this tangent or be here till 1073 01:05:40.989 --> 01:05:43.269 two o'clock in the morning, but what I refer to 1074 01:05:43.309 --> 01:05:46.030 as matrix coding, which is going to be the subject 1075 01:05:46.070 --> 01:05:50.539 of my next book. This reality in which we find 1076 01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:53.360 ourselves and the way it's constructed and programmed, I think 1077 01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:56.780 it's mathematically coded when you strip it down to its 1078 01:05:56.820 --> 01:05:59.610 core level. And it's akin to a piece of computer 1079 01:05:59.619 --> 01:06:03.480 software or a virtual reality video game. and you've got 1080 01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:06.820 all this stuff playing out into physical manifestation, but before 1081 01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:10.719 it becomes that, it's code and it operates on that level. 1082 01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:14.739 And I think it's responsible for things like irony, the 1083 01:06:14.900 --> 01:06:23.690 irony of people's names, Gates and all these others, and coincidences, serendipity, synchromysticism. 1084 01:06:24.369 --> 01:06:26.769 I think it can all be explained by stripping it 1085 01:06:26.849 --> 01:06:30.989 all back to what this reality is before it becomes 1086 01:06:31.050 --> 01:06:34.139 what we experience. Like I say, that's a big subject area. 1087 01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:36.119 It's not one that I intend to get into on 1088 01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:39.159 this show. It's something for another day. But I think 1089 01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:42.219 that's what explains all this. And, you know, apparent ironies. 1090 01:06:42.429 --> 01:06:46.070 Because people throw that one at me with regard to 1091 01:06:46.110 --> 01:06:49.610 my own name. They're like, oh, you expose Satanism and 1092 01:06:49.630 --> 01:06:53.670 occult symbolism and stuff. And your name is Mark Devlin. Like, 1093 01:06:53.710 --> 01:06:57.610 you've got the mark of the devil in you. And, 1094 01:06:58.489 --> 01:07:02.099 you know, they try and make something of that. But 1095 01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:05.219 there's many other examples. You know, Mark Passio is a 1096 01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:08.989 highly passionate individual. And that just happens to be his name. 1097 01:07:09.269 --> 01:07:13.710 Masaru Omoto, the Japanese guy that studied water consciousness, a 1098 01:07:13.750 --> 01:07:18.579 very emotive subject. And his name was Omoto. So, you know, 1099 01:07:18.699 --> 01:07:20.440 I don't think any of this stuff is by accident. 1100 01:07:21.139 --> 01:07:23.639 Yeah, it seems like it's kind of like fulfilling a destiny, 1101 01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:30.920 but I feel like the cabalistic people just put it 1102 01:07:31.019 --> 01:07:34.170 out there in our face like they're laughing at us 1103 01:07:34.230 --> 01:07:39.469 in a way. I mean, what did I say? Sam Altman. Well, 1104 01:07:39.650 --> 01:07:42.869 you can look at that as like Samael, which is 1105 01:07:42.909 --> 01:07:47.719 the angel of death, right? I mean, Yuval Harari is 1106 01:07:47.739 --> 01:07:53.670 a demonic name, right? It's literally the name of a demon. Okay, 1107 01:07:53.710 --> 01:07:56.719 and all of the AI companies all use the one 1108 01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:02.159 eye symbolism, right? Open AI and NVIDIA is the evil eye. 1109 01:08:02.539 --> 01:08:05.679 Oracle is the sea into the future. It's in the name. 1110 01:08:06.739 --> 01:08:09.980 Then you got Stargate AI, which is a big connection here. 1111 01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:12.090 One of the first things that Trump did whenever he 1112 01:08:12.110 --> 01:08:14.829 got back in the office in the second term, Stargate AI, 1113 01:08:17.170 --> 01:08:18.090 gate to the other world. 1114 01:08:19.220 --> 01:08:21.859 You got Elon Musk and wasn't Elon the name of 1115 01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:27.130 some like E.T. entity or some character in some science 1116 01:08:27.189 --> 01:08:30.689 fiction story from decades ago? I forget the exact reference, but, 1117 01:08:30.970 --> 01:08:33.770 you know, Elon is a very unusual name. And you 1118 01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:35.979 have this guy popping up and, you know, he's got 1119 01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:39.039 the same name as some character from some science fiction 1120 01:08:39.060 --> 01:08:40.300 film or book. 1121 01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:45.520 It might've been a Warner Von Braun that wrote that 1122 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.050 book

that said that somebody was going to name Elon. 1123 01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:54.140 Oh no, that was the, that's the, uh, Baron Trump book. 1124 01:08:54.140 --> 01:08:55.090 Oh yeah. 1125 01:08:55.090 --> 01:08:59.579 Yeah. yeah it talks about so awkward yeah that is 1126 01:08:59.810 --> 01:09:02.510 uh that a man named elon is going to take 1127 01:09:02.550 --> 01:09:03.729 us to mars but it seems. 1128 01:09:03.590 --> 01:09:05.949 There's some reference i'm sure people watching this know the 1129 01:09:05.989 --> 01:09:07.569 reference anyway to elon. 1130 01:09:07.810 --> 01:09:09.710 It's hard for us to remember some certain things, guys. 1131 01:09:09.729 --> 01:09:10.930 You're going to have to forgive us. We've got so 1132 01:09:10.949 --> 01:09:12.810 much stuff that we've got to remember in our brain. 1133 01:09:13.109 --> 01:09:15.520 But it seems like Elon has kind of abandoned the 1134 01:09:15.539 --> 01:09:19.119 whole Mars thing, and now he's more on track with 1135 01:09:19.140 --> 01:09:22.760 the moon. He's on with the moon again. Did you 1136 01:09:22.779 --> 01:09:24.600 see the tweet from the White House the other day 1137 01:09:24.659 --> 01:09:24.979 that was. 1138 01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:26.760 Like, we're going to put. 1139 01:09:26.619 --> 01:09:28.430 A permanent base on the moon? 1140 01:09:29.550 --> 01:09:31.010 Yeah, you know the day they're going to do that? 1141 01:09:31.029 --> 01:09:32.909 It's the same. 1142 01:09:32.609 --> 01:09:34.930 Day they find a cure for cancer. They're going to 1143 01:09:34.949 --> 01:09:35.729 happen on the same day. 1144 01:09:39.489 --> 01:09:41.810 Or when they finally freaking land on the moon because 1145 01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:45.800 they definitely didn't go in 1969. Come on, bro. That's right. 1146 01:09:46.550 --> 01:09:47.529 Nor any time since. 1147 01:09:48.989 --> 01:09:52.189 Yeah, so I thought that was really funny. I was like, yeah, 1148 01:09:52.329 --> 01:09:54.210 how are you guys going to put a freaking base 1149 01:09:54.289 --> 01:09:56.529 on the moon when you never even went in. 1150 01:09:56.489 --> 01:09:57.710 The first place, dude? 1151 01:09:58.310 --> 01:10:02.520 Right. Unbelievable. But it seems like that's, you know, and 1152 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:05.020 I don't know. I don't know what to think of 1153 01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:08.500 Elon Musk. What do you think? 1154 01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:10.060 Well, I don't trust him, that's for sure. 1155 01:10:10.699 --> 01:10:10.899 Yeah. 1156 01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:13.359 How can you trust a billionaire? 1157 01:10:13.380 --> 01:10:17.109 Do you ever get on that show? 1158 01:10:18.100 --> 01:10:21.050 You can't trust anyone that rises to that position of 1159 01:10:21.310 --> 01:10:25.210 influence because they didn't do it under their own steam. 1160 01:10:26.149 --> 01:10:29.369 They were obviously elevated by those that can make these 1161 01:10:29.409 --> 01:10:31.909 things happen. So how can you trust anyone in a 1162 01:10:31.930 --> 01:10:36.069 position like that? Yeah. 1163 01:10:36.149 --> 01:10:38.470 And all these families, too. See, there's a really big 1164 01:10:38.510 --> 01:10:41.069 connection here that I didn't even get into in the 1165 01:10:41.130 --> 01:10:47.369 actual documentary itself, which is a big Jeffrey Epstein connection 1166 01:10:47.750 --> 01:10:52.550 to the books that we've been given in public school 1167 01:10:52.590 --> 01:10:59.420 and education. So. The Rockefellers were actually funding some of 1168 01:10:59.449 --> 01:11:03.060 the psychic research going back to the 30s. We talk 1169 01:11:03.100 --> 01:11:05.420 about it in the movie, which is out of Duke University, 1170 01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:09.590 which is the Zinner Cards. that have the symbols on 1171 01:11:09.609 --> 01:11:11.930 the back of the cards. And this was used on 1172 01:11:12.329 --> 01:11:15.670 indigenous school children in Canada and also within the United States. 1173 01:11:15.689 --> 01:11:18.899 This is something that a lot of people remember within 1174 01:11:18.939 --> 01:11:23.020 the gifted and talented education programs is these flashcards. They 1175 01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:24.899 would sit down with a teacher or somebody that was, 1176 01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:29.000 you know, running the test and they would have a flashcard. 1177 01:11:29.020 --> 01:11:32.550 You can just get on Google and type in center 1178 01:11:32.569 --> 01:11:35.310 cards and you can find out all about this. where 1179 01:11:35.489 --> 01:11:38.300 then they would have the child, you know, be like, 1180 01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:40.500 they would ask the child, what's the next symbol on 1181 01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:42.670 the back of the card was a psychic card game. 1182 01:11:43.609 --> 01:11:54.800 And the Rothschilds were instrumental in creating the textbooks that 1183 01:11:55.000 --> 01:12:00.000 the United States used in public school. So when the 1184 01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:03.300 Rothschilds needed to take over Wall Street, they did it 1185 01:12:03.380 --> 01:12:08.140 by sending this gentleman to New York. to oversee the 1186 01:12:08.180 --> 01:12:13.260 purchase of this media company called MacMillan Inc. And MacMillan Inc. 1187 01:12:13.300 --> 01:12:16.279 would later be known as McGraw-Hill, which changed its name, 1188 01:12:17.300 --> 01:12:22.659 which McGraw-Hill is responsible for a majority of the elementary 1189 01:12:22.699 --> 01:12:25.829 school books in America that kids were raised on and 1190 01:12:26.050 --> 01:12:28.310 taught in public school. And the person that they sent 1191 01:12:28.350 --> 01:12:33.069 to do this, Mark, was none other than Robert Maxwell. 1192 01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:39.539 Ghislaine Maxwell's dad, Robert Maxwell, was working for the Rothschilds. 1193 01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:42.989 He was their main guy. And when Maxwell would go off... 1194 01:12:42.939 --> 01:12:46.739 Was that spy? Yes, exactly. He was

the original Epstein. 1195 01:12:47.979 --> 01:12:51.199 He was Epstein before Epstein was Epstein. Well, there was 1196 01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:54.079 another guy that was actually Epstein before Epstein, before Maxwell 1197 01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:57.319 was ever in the picture, which was Meyer Lansky. But 1198 01:13:00.050 --> 01:13:02.590 Maxwell was working for the Rothschild family through the Bank 1199 01:13:02.609 --> 01:13:05.670 of England, right? He was connected to... you know, running 1200 01:13:05.689 --> 01:13:09.470 all these corporate blackmail schemes to take over giant corporations and, 1201 01:13:10.350 --> 01:13:14.350 you know, blackmail people throughout the entire world ran by 1202 01:13:14.409 --> 01:13:18.119 Mossad and funded by England, right? And when he died, 1203 01:13:18.140 --> 01:13:25.859 Epstein and Ghislaine just took that entire operation over. Epstein 1204 01:13:25.899 --> 01:13:30.869 had just been introduced to Maxwell only like six months 1205 01:13:30.930 --> 01:13:34.789 prior to Maxwell's death. Epstein was. 1206 01:13:35.279 --> 01:13:37.619 Yeah, somebody dropped a banana skin on the deck of 1207 01:13:37.659 --> 01:13:41.189 his yacht, and he slipped right in. Terrible accident. 1208 01:13:42.350 --> 01:13:45.630 Doing it like that Mario Kart... on Mario Kart, dude. 1209 01:13:46.270 --> 01:13:53.720 All right. Yeah, so Jeff Epstein was essentially the replacement 1210 01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:56.399 for him, and he was the one that was responsible 1211 01:13:56.439 --> 01:13:59.560 for a lot of the elementary school books in public school. 1212 01:13:59.699 --> 01:14:02.260 Oh, does that include Catcher in the Rye? Probably does. 1213 01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:03.609 Hmm. 1214 01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:08.439 That would be really interesting. Uh, I think that it 1215 01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:10.699 might've been, I'm pretty sure that it was just like 1216 01:14:10.779 --> 01:14:15.520 educational history books. Uh, but I'm sure that I would 1217 01:14:15.539 --> 01:14:19.979 like to know who funded, uh, Catcher in the Rye. 1218 01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:24.359 Cause you could probably chase, trace that back. Cause he 1219 01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:28.100 had to have been, uh, funded by somebody to write 1220 01:14:28.119 --> 01:14:28.520 the book. 1221 01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:28.779 Right. 1222 01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:30.020 Hmm. 1223 01:14:31.060 --> 01:14:35.680 All right. So going back to remote viewing, have you 1224 01:14:35.739 --> 01:14:38.880 heard this account that there was an operation a few 1225 01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:43.229 years back where, not sure if it's the CIA or 1226 01:14:43.789 --> 01:14:47.130 other departments, but they employed a bunch of remote viewers 1227 01:14:47.750 --> 01:14:51.170 to look into the future and try and figure out 1228 01:14:51.409 --> 01:14:53.409 what was going to happen in terms of where humanity 1229 01:14:53.449 --> 01:14:58.920 was headed. And they all came back with

the same story, 1230 01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:03.279 which was that all the possible potential outcomes in terms 1231 01:15:03.340 --> 01:15:07.840 of future timelines converged at a singular point and they 1232 01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:09.800 just could not get beyond it it was like a 1233 01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:12.819 done deal it was written that things were going to 1234 01:15:12.859 --> 01:15:15.760 play out a certain way and they were going to 1235 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:18.890 play out in the favor of humanity to the detriment 1236 01:15:18.979 --> 01:15:21.510 of the elite control system are you at all familiar 1237 01:15:21.529 --> 01:15:23.029 with that story do you know what i'm talking about 1238 01:15:23.069 --> 01:15:23.369 there or. 1239 01:15:24.189 --> 01:15:27.010 I have heard that before. Now I'm not for sure 1240 01:15:27.109 --> 01:15:32.489 who was involved in that remote viewing. That sounds like a, um, 1241 01:15:33.050 --> 01:15:36.949 one of those institutes, um, that's done a lot of 1242 01:15:37.020 --> 01:15:40.239 remote viewing and forget what it's called, but it's something. 1243 01:15:40.260 --> 01:15:41.880 I don't know if that would have been a hopium 1244 01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:45.779 story to make people think that everything's going to turn out. Okay. Um, 1245 01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:48.039 you know, it'd be great if that did turn out 1246 01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:50.180 to be the case, but, uh, I just wondered if 1247 01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:52.100 there was any validity to those accounts. 1248 01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:56.840 That I'm not too sure. Now, Lynn Buchanan has remote 1249 01:15:56.859 --> 01:15:58.819 viewed the future. He said that he went as far 1250 01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:07.270 as into 2050. And he said that starting in now, 1251 01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:10.470 this is according to him. This is what he viewed 1252 01:16:10.529 --> 01:16:14.750 in like the early 2000s. OK, so take it with 1253 01:16:15.170 --> 01:16:21.069 what you will. But he said that starting in 2030. 1254 01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:27.800 War basically has erupted all over the world and the 1255 01:16:27.859 --> 01:16:31.600 countries start running out of war resources. So they start 1256 01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:42.260 using weather modification technology to wipe out other countries. So 1257 01:16:42.340 --> 01:16:50.609 they'll start doing, you know, manufactured earthquakes, manufactured hurricanes, manufactured fires, 1258 01:16:51.489 --> 01:16:53.489 burn people out, flood people out. And we kind of 1259 01:16:53.510 --> 01:16:56.819 see that happening in Nepal. I mean, there's a whole thing. 1260 01:16:59.340 --> 01:17:01.939 Southern California is getting hit by a tropical storm. It's 1261 01:17:01.979 --> 01:17:04.270 one of the first ones that's been this bad in 1262 01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:08.130 a really long time in Southern California. And he says 1263 01:17:08.189 --> 01:17:12.729 that that happens all the way up until the end 1264 01:17:13.630 --> 01:17:19.630 of 2040. That all of these man-made natural disasters that 1265 01:17:19.670 --> 01:17:27.649 have been orchestrated and perpetuated by the government themselves to 1266 01:17:29.449 --> 01:17:32.109 take out large groups of people. He said that over. 1267 01:17:34.069 --> 01:17:37.489 Again, this is what he said, not confirming it, not 1268 01:17:37.510 --> 01:17:43.369 trying to fear people into anything, but he said that 1269 01:17:44.350 --> 01:17:51.600 around approximately by the year of 2040, 75% of the population, 1270 01:17:52.180 --> 01:17:55.819 the world's population, will be taken out. 1271 01:17:57.300 --> 01:17:59.899 I was hoping there might be some good news in there, 1272 01:17:59.979 --> 01:18:01.960 which is why I asked the question, but my bad. 1273 01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:03.699 Silly me. 1274 01:18:04.550 --> 01:18:07.529 What are you thinking, Mark? This isn't a good news channel. 1275 01:18:07.550 --> 01:18:10.630 What are you trying to do, bro? I know, I know. 1276 01:18:10.649 --> 01:18:14.619 I'm not normally an optimist, but I thought there might 1277 01:18:14.659 --> 01:18:15.560 be something to find there. 1278 01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:16.859 But anyway. 1279 01:18:17.699 --> 01:18:21.239 So as we mentioned earlier, it takes so long for 1280 01:18:21.859 --> 01:18:24.460 many of these revelations to come to the surface. Decades. 1281 01:18:24.659 --> 01:18:27.489 So with this MKUltra stuff and the remote viewing and 1282 01:18:27.510 --> 01:18:29.609 the gate stuff, we're talking about things that happened in 1283 01:18:29.630 --> 01:18:34.050 the 1950s, 60s, 70s. And here we are 50 to 1284 01:18:34.050 --> 01:18:37.270 70 years later discussing this stuff. It seems like that's 1285 01:18:37.310 --> 01:18:41.930 a safe distance to leave between this information and it 1286 01:18:41.949 --> 01:18:45.069 being discussed. So it just makes me wonder, stuff that 1287 01:18:45.229 --> 01:18:47.729 is going on behind the scenes, out of view now 1288 01:18:47.909 --> 01:18:51.050 in the 2020s, we can only understand. imagine the true 1289 01:18:51.090 --> 01:18:53.979 nature of it maybe that's going to get revealed in 1290 01:18:54.020 --> 01:18:56.760 about 50 years and people will be sitting around saying 1291 01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:59.479 oh my god look at what they were doing in 1292 01:18:59.479 --> 01:19:02.920 2026 the mind boggles as to what might be going 1293 01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.220 on now that we're not going to find out about 1294 01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:06.479 for a few decades right. 1295 01:19:07.630 --> 01:19:09.550 It's really incredible when you think about that. And then 1296 01:19:09.569 --> 01:19:15.229 when you think of the push to digitize everything, And 1297 01:19:15.329 --> 01:19:17.850 what kind of agenda is that? Why do they want 1298 01:19:17.949 --> 01:19:23.270 your entire life on a freaking cell phone? Why do 1299 01:19:23.289 --> 01:19:26.020 they

want all of your records to be digitized? Why 1300 01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:27.960 do they want everything on the internet? Why do they 1301 01:19:28.020 --> 01:19:32.300 want you? Why does Elon Musk want an X everything app? 1302 01:19:32.779 --> 01:19:36.050 Why is he giving you a freaking credit card now? 1303 01:19:36.850 --> 01:19:40.279 You can literally get an X credit card. on the 1304 01:19:41.319 --> 01:19:44.869 X app through Elon Musk and get an X credit card, okay? 1305 01:19:45.390 --> 01:19:46.789 He wants it to be an everything app. He wants 1306 01:19:46.850 --> 01:19:50.729 it to be an app where your entire life is 1307 01:19:50.930 --> 01:19:54.310 on and you can't operate in society without that app. 1308 01:19:54.840 --> 01:19:58.399 Why do they want a digital ID? A digital ID 1309 01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:02.779 is for tracking and tracing everything that you do, everywhere 1310 01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:06.439 that you go, everything that you buy, anything that you 1311 01:20:06.470 --> 01:20:12.420 look up, your AI chat log, Your search history, your 1312 01:20:12.979 --> 01:20:15.760 comments that you reply to, the people that you react 1313 01:20:15.779 --> 01:20:18.560 to online, the videos that you watch on your phone. 1314 01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:25.939 Why is all of that so important for them to do? Well, 1315 01:20:26.039 --> 01:20:32.619 it's important because they can just erase it. If they 1316 01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:37.500 digitize everything within the next 10 years, Mark, and nothing 1317 01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:41.029 is physical anymore... I mean, we've seen, I don't know 1318 01:20:41.069 --> 01:20:42.880 if you're a gamer or if you play games or anything. 1319 01:20:42.909 --> 01:20:44.319 I pay attention to it a little bit. I don't 1320 01:20:44.340 --> 01:20:47.140 play too many games, but I do have an Xbox. 1321 01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:51.760 But PlayStation announced that they're no longer going to be 1322 01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:54.930 doing disc anymore. Physical media has been on the way 1323 01:20:54.979 --> 01:20:57.229 out for a really long time. That's why I got 1324 01:20:57.510 --> 01:21:01.090 physical medias of the movie Psychic Agent because it kind 1325 01:21:01.130 --> 01:21:06.869 of cements you into reality. Like no one can take 1326 01:21:06.949 --> 01:21:09.979 this disc. Away, you know, they can take digital things 1327 01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:12.779 away and that's been something that's been happening for a 1328 01:21:12.779 --> 01:21:15.359 really long time with PlayStation. They've literally just wiped the 1329 01:21:15.430 --> 01:21:19.609 movies that people's paid for off of the PlayStation store. Uh, 1330 01:21:19.670 --> 01:21:23.270 the whole entire movie catalog is just completely gone that 1331 01:21:23.289 --> 01:21:26.090 people have paid for. So there's an agenda out there 1332 01:21:26.149 --> 01:21:28.250 to digitize everything, but no one. 1333 01:21:28.189 --> 01:21:31.109 Has,

I've still got cassette tapes here. I've got an 1334 01:21:31.170 --> 01:21:34.409 old school. I'm digitizing some of my cassettes, but I'm 1335 01:21:34.430 --> 01:21:37.210 still going to keep the cassettes. I'm just a master 1336 01:21:37.250 --> 01:21:38.649 of redundant formats here. 1337 01:21:39.909 --> 01:21:43.729 But that's really important because you can't take that away 1338 01:21:43.789 --> 01:21:46.989 from people, but you can take the digital stuff away 1339 01:21:47.710 --> 01:21:50.970 and you can take it away very easily. So if 1340 01:21:51.029 --> 01:21:56.340 we put everything on a digital format, then what happens 1341 01:21:56.460 --> 01:21:59.979 if the internet just, what happens if they reset the internet? 1342 01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:03.579 All this history is just going to be gone. It's 1343 01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:07.130 going to be like, If my entire life was on 1344 01:22:07.149 --> 01:22:10.449 the internet, it's going to be like I didn't even exist, Mark. 1345 01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:14.779 That's why I write physical books, actual paper books that 1346 01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:17.619 you can hold in your hand. Very important to keep 1347 01:22:17.659 --> 01:22:18.550 that format alive. 1348 01:22:19.789 --> 01:22:22.029 It is very important. And I don't think people really 1349 01:22:22.229 --> 01:22:28.699 understand the gravity of that type of situation. They can 1350 01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:36.329 literally erase decades and decades and decades of entire history 1351 01:22:37.729 --> 01:22:40.899 by making everything digital. And people are like, oh, well, 1352 01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:42.380 they could go in and they could change the book. 1353 01:22:42.420 --> 01:22:45.300 And I'm not worried. Who cares about that? I don't 1354 01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:48.199 want them to erase the entire freaking thing. It's already 1355 01:22:48.260 --> 01:22:50.760 hard enough to go back and try and find articles 1356 01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:54.430 that happened six years ago. Imagine what that's going to 1357 01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:58.369 be like in freaking 10 years. You know, and they're 1358 01:22:58.390 --> 01:23:02.670 no longer backing up the internet. So Google is no 1359 01:23:02.710 --> 01:23:06.510 longer backing up the internet. So like from here on further, 1360 01:23:06.550 --> 01:23:10.970 we're just in like this limbo type of state and 1361 01:23:11.010 --> 01:23:13.810 i think that that's a really important thing because if 1362 01:23:13.850 --> 01:23:15.880 they can just erase the internet and everything that you've 1363 01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:18.399 ever done and anything that you've ever built can just 1364 01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:24.579 completely be wiped and no one will ever know who 1365 01:23:24.619 --> 01:23:26.899 you were or what any kind of contribution that you 1366 01:23:26.939 --> 01:23:27.500 ever made. 1367 01:23:27.319 --> 01:23:32.159 Right okay well we'll start to wrap things up here 1368 01:23:32.199 --> 01:23:36.770 then but where can people watch this documentary film of 1369 01:23:36.789 --> 01:23:40.899 yours psychic agent where is that available and what's next 1370 01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:42.819 for you? Have you got another project on the cards? 1371 01:23:44.340 --> 01:23:47.640 Yes. You can check out psychic agent, the gate program 1372 01:23:47.779 --> 01:23:51.199 on Amazon prime. You can get it in the UK. 1373 01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:53.560 You can for sure get it in the United States. 1374 01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:57.670 And if you're interested in a physical copy of psychic agent, 1375 01:23:57.689 --> 01:24:01.329 the gate program, and you live in the United States, 1376 01:24:01.409 --> 01:24:03.569 I can't ship it outside of the United States. I've 1377 01:24:03.590 --> 01:24:07.210 made some exceptions going into Canada and, but even Canada 1378 01:24:07.350 --> 01:24:10.880 is like 20 to $ 30 to ship it just from 1379 01:24:10.899 --> 01:24:14.539 the United States. So I can only ship the people 1380 01:24:14.699 --> 01:24:16.140 that would want a physical copy. 1381 01:24:16.640 --> 01:24:19.020 Isn't that another example of what you were just talking about? 1382 01:24:19.100 --> 01:24:22.880 Because I get requests from people in America and Japan 1383 01:24:22.939 --> 01:24:26.619 and Australia to ship books out there. And I've just 1384 01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:30.020 stopped doing it because first of all, it's too expensive. 1385 01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:34.649 And secondly, it takes too long. And thirdly, these books 1386 01:24:34.689 --> 01:24:37.289 so often get seized by customs. They never actually make 1387 01:24:37.329 --> 01:24:40.649 it through. And it's so troublesome to mail a physical 1388 01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:43.500 book to another nation that I don't do it anymore. 1389 01:24:44.100 --> 01:24:46.060 And that's exactly the way they want things. They want 1390 01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:49.140 you doing everything online. They don't want physical copies, like 1391 01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:51.600 you were saying, of your DVD. So it's another case 1392 01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:52.479 in point there, I feel. 1393 01:24:53.619 --> 01:24:56.520 It is really troubling. I wish it was a lot 1394 01:24:56.560 --> 01:25:00.560 cheaper and I was able to do it. But I mean, 1395 01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:07.000 you're talking like, to ship it. Someone tried to order 1396 01:25:07.140 --> 01:25:09.359 one from the UK and I didn't, whenever I first 1397 01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:11.069 got them, I was like, yeah, if you want a 1398 01:25:11.310 --> 01:25:14.750 DVD and someone tried to send me money from the 1399 01:25:14.909 --> 01:25:17.710 UK and I just had to refund the money because 1400 01:25:17.729 --> 01:25:20.390 the shipping was just too expensive. I would actually be 1401 01:25:20.489 --> 01:25:25.079 losing money on the DVD to ship it outside of 1402 01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:28.560 the country. I mean, I have made some

exceptions recently 1403 01:25:28.619 --> 01:25:30.020 for Canada, but Canada is. 1404 01:25:29.979 --> 01:25:33.180 Like, part of north america so it's like. 1405 01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:36.020 Not that big of a deal it doesn't take that 1406 01:25:36.100 --> 01:25:40.600 long but uh yeah anywhere overseas or outside of um 1407 01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:44.619 canada or the united states it's just they make it 1408 01:25:44.659 --> 01:25:48.130 too difficult and the tariffs and everything and just and 1409 01:25:48.390 --> 01:25:51.789 the the custom because it's even an upcharge to get 1410 01:25:51.829 --> 01:25:55.710 through the custom stuff isn't it i've very rarely shipped 1411 01:25:55.750 --> 01:25:58.149 anything um overseas. 1412 01:25:57.789 --> 01:26:02.189 It's an extortion racket i used to get communications from 1413 01:26:02.329 --> 01:26:05.609 like Australian customs. And they'd say, you've got to pay 1414 01:26:05.670 --> 01:26:08.289 us X amount of fee for us to release the book. 1415 01:26:08.770 --> 01:26:11.960 So they just hold you to ransom there. 1416 01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:17.859 Unbelievable. It's really unbelievable how everything has been set up 1417 01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:22.239 to make us to where we can't, you know, make 1418 01:26:22.260 --> 01:26:28.380 a living and get out information. It's wild. But yeah, 1419 01:26:28.399 --> 01:26:32.270 if you would, Amazon Prime, you can watch my documentaries 1420 01:26:32.319 --> 01:26:34.550 that Mark was also in. If you haven't checked that 1421 01:26:34.649 --> 01:26:37.310 out already, you can watch that one, Clockwork Shining on 1422 01:26:37.350 --> 01:26:40.270 Amazon Prime and Psychic Agent, The Gate Program. And if 1423 01:26:40.310 --> 01:26:42.130 you would do me a favor and leave a comment 1424 01:26:42.829 --> 01:26:45.789 rating and a review for amazon if you watch it 1425 01:26:46.050 --> 01:26:48.810 on amazon that really helps out with the algorithms and 1426 01:26:48.859 --> 01:26:51.760 helps amazon push it out and recommend it to other 1427 01:26:51.779 --> 01:26:54.899 people that might be interested and if you're interested in 1428 01:26:54.979 --> 01:26:57.159 following uh some of my other work you can find 1429 01:26:57.180 --> 01:27:00.010 me on writer lee on youtube and any and all 1430 01:27:00.050 --> 01:27:03.630 podcast platforms and any and all social media and i'm 1431 01:27:03.670 --> 01:27:08.640 thinking about doing another cubic film Thinking about doing one 1432 01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:10.439 on Eyes Wide Shut. We didn't get a chance to 1433 01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:13.390 get into Eyes Wide Shut, but Kubrick, you mentioned that 1434 01:27:13.430 --> 01:27:16.609 Kubrick died from a heart attack. And that was six 1435 01:27:16.649 --> 01:27:19.390 days after he had shown that screener to the Warner Brothers. 1436 01:27:19.430 --> 01:27:27.510 And then it was 666 days before 2001 A Space Odyssey. Right. 1437 01:27:28.020 --> 01:27:31.859 Exactly. Matrix coding, you see. Yep. 1438 01:27:32.750 --> 01:27:36.210 Then you've got the Kubrick Counterintelligence MKUltra manual as well, 1439 01:27:36.270 --> 01:27:41.149 which is very similar to Kubrick. They're playing with the names. 1440 01:27:41.529 --> 01:27:46.789 They're playing with the meanings of all this. It's word magic, 1441 01:27:48.310 --> 01:27:51.670 Freemasonic double speak. They tell you one thing when they 1442 01:27:51.710 --> 01:27:53.529 mean something completely different. 1443 01:27:54.649 --> 01:27:58.810 Right. Okay, well, thanks for coming on today, and I'll 1444 01:27:58.850 --> 01:28:00.600 link up with you again in due course, no doubt. 1445 01:28:01.750 --> 01:28:03.220 Thanks so much, Mark. Really appreciate it. 1446 01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:04.670 All right. Cheers.