Mark Devlin & Ryder Lee Discuss Secret Gifted Children

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So I'm chatting today with a previous guest in this series.
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It's the documentary filmmaker at the United States, Ryder Lee.
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Welcome back, brother.
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What's going on, Mark?
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Thanks so much for having me on, brother. I'm glad
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you got a chance to watch the new film. Sure.
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So we linked in early 2024 when you featured me
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in your film, A Clockwork Shining, which was re-examining Stanley
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Kubrick's The Shining, which has been endlessly analyzed through the decades.
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But your approach was looking at it differently to what
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anyone had previously, which was asking whether or positing that
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the film was actually about the CIA's MKUltra mind control
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program and that Stanley Kubrick was revealing great secrets through
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the narrative of that film. And that was produced in
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conjunction with Jay Widener, who was a part of things.
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And I was one of the featured talking heads on that.
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So definitely appreciate you getting me on to talk about
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my research into MKUltra. This latest film that you have out,
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Psychic Agent, the GATE program, seems to go a lot
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further into mind control, looking at areas like remote viewing
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and the militarization, the weaponization of psychic abilities by the
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military and the state and the CIA and various other agencies.
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So first off, do you want to let people know
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what inspired you to want to make this film? Was
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it stuff that you uncovered for A Clockwork Shining that
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made you think, oh, there's another documentary to be made here?
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Or is this stuff that you always had an interest in?
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That's a really solid question. And I think that the
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way that it went was sort of the way that
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my research kind of went out, you know, like starting
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with JFK X, solving the crime of the century with
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Jay Widener, and then a clockwork shining the movie that
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you were a part of. And then it goes into
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this remote viewing stuff, because that's kind of the way
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that my research started around five years ago now, that's
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where I really started was into like, you know, that's
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kind of where everyone really starts is kind of with JFK.
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You know what I mean? You're like, what really happened
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with JFK? What's actually going on there? And then you
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start getting into, you know, MK ultra stuff. And, uh,
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you know, if you didn't get into nine 11, uh, first,
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that was one of the first things that, uh, in
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2008 with the film zeitgeist and loose change was one
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of the first things that, uh, you know, kind of
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opened my mind to everything that's going on. But see,
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I think that there comes a point, Mark, where people...
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There's a line that people won't really cross. Like, for instance...
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The other day I made a video and we discussed
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this whenever you were on my show about Tupac, right?
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And how Tupac was essentially groomed for his role as
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a rapper to influence an entire generation. He was an actor, right?
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And he went to this prestigious gifted program called the
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Baltimore School for the Arts. And I made a short
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video about this and posted it all over my social
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medias and stuff. And this really pissed a lot of
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people off for some reason. On social media, of course.
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I think some of my YouTube audience gets a little confused.
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Sometimes I have a pretty big social media following, around
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200K followers between all my profiles. So if you're on
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YouTube and you're like, where are all these hateful comments
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that you're receiving? It's on social media, okay? It's almost like,
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you can cross a line sometimes that you didn't even aware,
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you weren't even aware that you were kind of like,
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you can talk about all the MK ultra stuff. And
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I don't know if you've ever come into contact with
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anything quite like this, but I was really surprised and
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kind of taken back by it because you can get
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into the MK ultra stuff, like, you know, back in
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the sixties and back in the seventies and stuff. But
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when you start inching it closer to the time that
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we're kind of currently in is starting when you get
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a lot more pushback than when you're talking about the
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CIA infiltration into the rock and roll. Like everyone kind
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of accepts that now and how the CIA was basically
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responsible for the LSD and, and pushing the hippie movement
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and then destroying the hippie movement by, uh, the anti-war
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movement by starting the hippie movement. You know, like you
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can talk about that and that's like a commonly accepted thing.
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Even So far as to the crack epidemic and the
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drug epidemic, people will believe that that was ran by
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the CIA to destroy the nuclear family, but not when
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you bring up Tupac, Mark. It's a completely different monster
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when you bring up Tupac, okay? And I got the
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same type of thing from everyone, right? And it kind
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of felt like a broken record on Tupac. People in
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the comment sections, they were like, Because I kind of said,
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you know, Tupac wasn't a gangster. He was an actor,
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which is verifiably true. Anybody that takes five seconds of
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research online can realize that he was an actor and
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he wasn't.
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I did a Patreon video on this just the other
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week to mark the 30th anniversary of his death. And
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I uncovered this footage of him in the early 90s
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in Baltimore when he was studying at the Performing Arts
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Academy there in his little ballet vest. And he's very
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effeminate and very softly spoken. And very far from the
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thug gangster persona that he came out with a few
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years later. So you're right. It was all an act,
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but people don't like to hear it. And you would
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think that was 30 years ago, but that's still not
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a safe enough distance. It seems you have to wait
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like 50 or 60 years to be able to talk
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about things without everyone getting upset.
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I was really shocked by the response, Mark. And it
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was like, he never called himself a gangster. he shot
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two cops. That's the most gangster thing that you could
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ever possibly do. And I was like, do you even
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understand what you just said right there? Why are you
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idolizing a man who shot two cops? First off, you know,
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you know, keep idolizing people that were used to demoralize
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an entire generation, right? And see how much better things get.
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You're glorifying a lifestyle that's been used by the government
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to keep people suppressed to fund the prison industrial complex.
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The United States is the most incarcerated country on the planet.
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Do you think that that's a coincidence? The cops weren't
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in uniform, by the way, Mark. He didn't know that
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they were cops.
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Yeah, they were off duty.
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When he shot them, right? It's like you should probably
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defend your freedom as much as you defend actors and
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dead musicians, right? And I feel kind of sad that
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for these people, you know, that they're so emotionally attached
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to this person that they've never even met, that it's
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so attached that it's just become a part of their identity.
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They should literally put this much You would think that
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I got on there and just started personally attacking every
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single one of these people. And but they should put
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this much energy in defending some people that they actually know.
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They should probably all just be lawyers because they're really
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good at defending people. And it's just it's just mind
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boggling to me. And I thought that this was a
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commonly accepted thing. And you're right. Like how much time
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needs to pass? before we can start talking about this
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stuff and before it becomes commonly accepted. And I thought
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that this was already commonly accepted. I didn't think that
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I was saying anything new. In fact, I knew that
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I wasn't saying anything new because me and you had
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talked about it over two years ago.
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Yeah.
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Seems you really touched a nerve there. And there just
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comes a point sometimes where those comments have to get
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turned off. I had to disable comments or I chose
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to disable comments on a video that I put out
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a couple of days ago about the weaponization of immigration,
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because it's a very clear agenda. Definitely happening here in
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the UK. Documentation from verifiable sources to prove that this
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is an agenda. But I knew that certain people were
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going to get triggered and it would lead to a
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shit storm in the comments and people would be wanting
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to argue for weeks and weeks and weeks about it.
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So those comments got turned off. There comes a point
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where you just want to make a statement, put information out,
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People can deal with it as they choose. If they
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want to get triggered by it, then get triggered as
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long as it's on their own time in their own space.
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That's what it comes to sometimes.
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What do you think that the whole immigration thing is?
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Because it seems like it's not only happening in the UK,
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it's kind of happening everywhere all at the exact same time.
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And it seems like it's a way to completely collapse
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the whole system. What do you think is actually going
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on with that? Do you think that that's like, what
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do you think is the end goal? I guess is the.
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Well, I won't get too far off on that tangent, but, um,
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my guests, Lance and Andy of rise above life, who
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I was doing the show with, uh, presented documentation about
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the so-called clergy plan. This guy, uh, count Richard Vaughn,
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held and Hove clergy, who was half Austrian, Austro-Hungarian and
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half Japanese. And he wrote a book in 1925, just
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over 100 years ago, called Practical Idealism in German, where
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he talked about this elite plan to deliberately genetically water
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down the European white Caucasian race and create what he
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referred to as a Negroid Eurasian race. And the plan
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was to basically breed what we would call white people
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out of existence in society over a very prolonged period
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of time. And that's what the immigration programs that we
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can see happening in so many nations now are really
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all about. It's not about granting asylum to refugees and
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political asylum seekers and such. It's about deliberately culturally subverting
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nations and at a genetic dna level to create a
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hybrid race which is completely controllable and programmable and uh
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just creating complete detachedness from what was there previously genetically
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ancestrally culturally that's what it is and people hate to
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hear it but in this show all the documentation you
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could ever need was presented and you know all about
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this you're a filmmaker You have to provide citations and sources.
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That's what any professional researcher does. Otherwise, people will accuse
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you of just making it up. And people may well
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be just making it up if they can't provide the documentation.
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But when you've got the sources, when you've got actual
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documents and actual books and you can timestamp them and
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you can verify where they came from, it becomes undeniable.
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You can still get upset if you want, but you
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can't deny that it's an agenda. So like I say,
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I won't get too far off down that tangent but
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uh that was the crux of what we talked about
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on that show.
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It also feels like a giant and this ties in
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this ties in with the the subject here that we're
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talking about because it also seems like a giant mk
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ultra operation based off of the amount of people that
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have been uh like sexual acts uh i think this
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is probably the best way for the censors to say
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it has been performed unwillingly on a lot of young
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females in these other countries by immigrants. And that is
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a big MKUltra technique. And it seems like that's kind
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of they want to induce that type of trauma. Because,
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you know, as the movie Psychic Agent, the gay program.
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Is about, you know, around half of it is about.
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Children and the traumatization of children and what was going
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on in public school and how they were essentially being
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MKUltra'd in. This also gets into A Clockwork Shining as
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well with, because we talk about Dr. Ewan Cameron in
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A Clockwork Shining and what he was doing in Canada
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to essentially mind control people, this de-patterning, this way to
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go in and basically reprogram somebody's mind through trauma and
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through drugging. It's the exact same thing that people remember
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happening to them within public school and these gifted and
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talented education programs is, Essentially the exact same thing. They're
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being told to take a substance. They don't know what
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the substance is. They're told that it's different things. The
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pink drink, some people remember it as an orange drink.
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Different people were told different things based off of where
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they lived, of what the medication was for. But it's
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kind of been deduced that it's some sort of... drug,
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some form of hallucinogenic drug. Then they're then taken out
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of the classroom. Then they put these headphones on with
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these weird frequencies. It's exactly like what Hugh and Cameron
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was doing. That's what it was called psychic driving. He
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would put a looped, repeated audio message in headphones. I mean,
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we show the footage in a in A Clockwork Shining
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of him doing that. And that was to reprogram the
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mind to make them believe something that happened that didn't happen,
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or it could be the opposite way around. So when
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you put all these things together, you're seeing a carried
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out version upon an entire generation of kids, maybe going
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back to even the 40s, the mid 40s, with a
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program that we talk about in the movie called the
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Indian Lake Project in upstate New York, where this possibly
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could have been a giant military operation. And, you know,
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mind control goes back even further than some, you go
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back into the thirties as well with, uh, you know,
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it just didn't happen during world war two. And then
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it just didn't happen in the United States. It's been
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something that's been, been being done for a really long
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time and the study of mind control operations. So I
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do see this, uh, this immigration thing as a form of,
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like mind control and traumatization upon people that otherwise wouldn't
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be getting that traumatization any other way.
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Right. Well, maybe I didn't go off on too much
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of a tangent then. Maybe these subjects are related because
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when you put it like that, it does come across
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as an extension of MKUltra in many ways. It's societal
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conditioning and through mind control, through driving the way people
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think and people's attitudes and stuff, which is why people
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get so triggered. Mainly, I feel people get triggered because
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they've been programmed to get triggered. They've been basically instructed
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in how to think and how to view situations. So
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from that point of view, yes, it is MKUltra. So
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all these things are, I guess, ultimately connected. So just
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bringing it back to your film then and the main
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points you're making through that. Through the work I've done
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into the music industry and popular culture and entertainment, I've
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shown that oftentimes people get selected for prominent roles purely
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as a product of the families they happen to be
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born into, and often it's military families. The offspring of
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military personnel get put forward for these roles, whether it's
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as an actor or a TV presenter or a singer
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or a politician. But it seems there's another way children
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get specially selected for these public roles. And that's through
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what you alluded to there, which is this program for
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gifted and talented individuals, gifted and talented children who are
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identified in the public school system early on and kept
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an eye on and groomed and then ushered into these
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positions of influence later on in their lives. So a
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lot of your film talks about this. So Are the
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Gate Program, Project Gateway, and Stargate all related? Because they've
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all got the Gate bit in their names. Do they
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all kind of tie into each other, or are they
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separate entities there?
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They are separate entities. They are separate programs, and... I
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can see where some people.
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They just happen to have gate in the names.
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Yes, yes. I can see where some people would get
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that confused. And, you know, not a lot of people
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have really had that big of an issue with it.
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Because I think we really show a distinction between all
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of the programs within the movie. I mean, there's a
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clear distinction between all of them.
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the Stargate, which is the remote viewing unit. It wasn't
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always called Stargate. It went through many different name changes
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and different three-letter organizations were involved in the study and
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the research. And then the eventual unit at Fort Meade,
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Maryland ran by DIA, the Army Intelligence, and then back
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to DIA. And then it was supposed to be sent
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to the CIA in 1995.
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But then they said that.
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No intelligence data had ever been collected, so they shut
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the program down, which is a complete lie. You can
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just look through the documents and see that that was
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a giant lie. But then you have the gateway experience,
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which is the Robert Monroe gateway tapes, which people have
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been confused about the Robert Monroe experience. gateway experience for
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a long time people have believed that they were a
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part of the stargate army military unit when they were
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actually in the gateway experience the robert monroe gateway experience
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which you can go to right now if you wanted
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to go and have an out-of-body experience i mean they
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won't claim or tell you that you'll 100 for sure
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have an out-of-body experience but your chances of having one
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are dramatically increased if you go to the Monroe Institute
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and have these, you know, take the course at the
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Monroe Institute. You're more than likely, you have a better
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chance of getting outside of your body if you go
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there and you actually take the course. Then you have
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the GATE program. gifted and talented education which some of
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the first documented records of this happened in the early
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60s with this program called mgm mentally gifted minors and
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this comes out of california and walter bosley which is
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in the movie he was also in a clockwork shining
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along with yourself uh Was in this this program, and
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then he was the son of Air Force individual and
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his dad was in the Air Force, a high ranking
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Air Force officer. And, you know, he talks about that
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a lot within the movie and how that's connected and
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how he believes that he was essentially groomed for his
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role later on working with the intelligence community and counterintelligence
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and working as a special investigator for the Air Force.
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So you're 100% right. And how these two connect are
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that that's a what was happening. So if you go
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back to the what we were talking about in a
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Clockwork Shining documentary, which you should be able to watch
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for free online, by the way, on Tubi or Amazon,
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and you can also watch psychic agent the gate program
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on Amazon Prime. Now it's available in the UK. is
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it started with the sons and daughters of military personnel.
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And We talk about that a lot. And that's where
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a lot of your research comes from, you know, out
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of Laurel Canyon and how a lot of these big
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musical acts all had family ties back to the military
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industrial complex. They were pretty much everybody. And it's really
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shocking whenever you make those connections. But that's essentially what
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was going on. It's exactly like With what was happening
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there where they were using the children of military personnel,
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they also started using the children of military personnel within
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these gate programs. Northrop Grumman had a gate program school
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just right outside of, I mean, Northrop Grumman is literally
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the place where the military creates all of its weapons,
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develops all of the military weapons that happens in Northrop Grumman.
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And Danny Sheehan, which is a big-time UFO investigator, he's
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on the lecturing circuit of all the UFO conferences. He's
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known as the UFO lawyer. He had come out just
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around a month ago and talked about how at Northrop Grumman,
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there was this gate program school that was essentially drugging
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kids of... military personnel to unlock their psychic abilities in
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order to connect with reverse engineered UFOs that the government
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had created to psychically connect with them. And that's not
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too far of a stretch because there are real documentation
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of adult psychic abilities. Remote viewers that have reportedly connected
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with UFOs and able to control them and maneuver them
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and manipulate them with their mind. I mean, this kind
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of goes back to the whole Bob Lazar thing. That's
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kind of like there's no controls in these crafts. You know,
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it's controlled by the individuals and the occupants mind. You know,
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there's not any physical controls in there that you can
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maneuver the craft around in. And that might seem like
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a really big stretch, but I think that all this
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stuff is 100% connected. But yeah, the differences in the programs,
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but the connections are, is that the Monroe Institute gateway
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experience is connected to the Stargate remote viewing unit at
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Fort Meade because the remote viewing unit at Fort Meade,
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some of the Army personnel were sent to the Monroe
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Institute by General Stubblebine. to study under Robert Monroe to
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find out if getting outside of your body is a
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way to a more valid way of being able to
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remote view. And then whenever you ask some of the
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remote viewers like Lynn Buchanan and Angela Ford, which are
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confirmed psychic remote viewers for the army and the DIA,
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which are in the movie psychic agent, the gate program,
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what is the most advanced form of remote viewing? They
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tell you that it's being outside of your body. So
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then you connect that with, and they had the access
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at Fort Meade to the Monroe Institute gateway tapes. They
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had them all there. Lynn Buchanan says that in the movie.
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So then when you connect the Monroe Institute gateway tapes
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to the gateway, the gifted and talented education in public school,
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this is what triggered a lot of people online was
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hearing The Monroe Institute Gateway tapes online. You should be
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hearing my voice in your right ear. You should be
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hearing my voice in your right ear. That triggered a
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lot of people to bring back all of these memories
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of this really weird and strange program that they remember
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going through in public school. And they believe that what
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they heard in public school was the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes. Tapes.
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And then that brings in the question, okay, well, if
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that's what they were hearing, one, how did they even
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get into public school? Two, what was the purpose of that? Well,
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we know what the purpose of the Monroe Institute is.
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experience tapes were was to get people outside of their
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body and if you read the gateway process uh documents
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that we show in the movie it tells you that
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the the goal is to get people outside of their
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body to communicate with non-human intelligence communicate with non-human intelligence
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outside of your body get that information and bring that
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information back and then tell us, you know, what's going on.
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I mean, that document is a really fascinating document. It
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basically talks all about astral projection and out of body
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experience and, and how biofeedback is really important in understanding, uh, uh, the,
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how to get outside of your body. And then we
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have Katie page in the documentary, which, uh, was a
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part of this program called the Twilight Learner Program at
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the Denver Tech Center in Colorado by this guy named
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Thomas H. Bedinsky, which worked out of Area 51 on
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the SR-71 Blackbird, and then immediately went, after he was
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done with that, went to Colorado to start this biofeedback program,
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and she claims that whenever she was through this program
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as a kid, gave her the exact same experiences that
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she had whenever she later on in life as an
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adult listened to the Monroe Institute Gateway Tapes. Right.
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A lot of people might be surprised to hear that
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the Monroe Institute has connections to the CIA and the
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government and all these shady organizations. The Esalen Institute in
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California certainly does. And the Monroe Institute, which was involved
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in some similar kinds of activities, I guess, would appear
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to have also been linked. And a lot of people
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won't enjoy hearing that.
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They won't enjoy hearing that. And if you can take
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it even a step farther that I didn't even want
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to put in the documentary. So I didn't put it
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in the documentary because I hadn't found a lot of
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evidence for it. But it's starting to come out now.
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That it's a possibility that Robert Monroe didn't even create
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that technology, that it was essentially given to him by
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the CIA as a front facing organization. And this whole
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document was actually written by a gentleman called Andreeja Puharj.
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I'm pretty sure we would have spoken about Stranger Things
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in one of our previous conversations, the Netflix TV show,
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because so many secrets were revealed through the narrative of
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that show in terms of what went on with MKUltra
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and things like remote viewing and the harnessing of psychic
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abilities and such. And there's so much of what you
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include in this new documentary, which was shown in Stranger Things,
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particularly through the character of Eleven, played by Millie Bobby Brown.
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So she's in this government covert... Military Laboratory Research Institute.
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And she's under the watch of Dr. Martin Brenner, who
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I think is modelled on Dr. Ewan Cameron. It's a
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thinly veiled reference to him and many of these very
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real MKUltra experiments. And she's doing things there like using
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her mind, her psychic abilities to crush a Coke can.
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And this is very similar to what we hear about
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spoon bending, which was popularised by Yuri Geller. The idea
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that someone can actually bend a spoon just by focusing
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their mind. And also in that show, you see Brenner
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experimenting with this other kid by getting him to identify
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shapes which are drawn on a piece of paper inside
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an envelope. And all of these were very real experiments
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that were done to try and develop psychic and kinetic
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abilities within children. And often trauma was the key to it.
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So there's a reference in the film there to these
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abilities only being unlocked. And being able to be fully
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harnessed when the child has been subjected to trauma, which
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causes them to dissociate and for the mind to open up.
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So it's very immoral. And that's the reason why these
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projects had to be off the books and black ops
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and why they've been covered up for so many decades, right?
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Absolutely. And I would say that another really good fictionalized
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version of this, which I was actually really shocked by,
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is a show and a book actually by Stephen King
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called The Institute. It just came out with its second
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season recently. And when the first season came out on
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MGM +, I was literally in the middle of making
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this movie. And I watched it and I'm like, holy shit.
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How did he... Stephen King knew... A lot of things
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that Stephen King does is all about children and psychic abilities. Like,
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come on, Stephen King, give me a break. I mean,
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Danny within The Shining, uh, Carrie, uh, like, uh, it
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like psychic children and it, you know, and then he
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does this, uh, this book called the Institute where children
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are literally kidnapped in the where they're basically traumatized. They're
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identified as psychics through the public school, and they're kidnapped
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out of the middle of the night out of their beds,
484
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which there are real programs like that in the United
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States for teen behavioral modification schools. Very real thing where
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parents of unruly children can literally pay a company and
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an organization to come and take the kid out of
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their house in the middle of the night and handcuff
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them and throw them into a black, black SUV and
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take them to some facility where they live out until
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they graduate from that facility until they're 18. 100% real.
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It kind of started in Utah with the, uh, with
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the team behavioral modification camps, which were like a retreat
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that would be over a summer, uh, where they would
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just go hiking in the woods for three months. But
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then that turned into like facilities and, um, upstate New
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York as well as at this place called Ivy Ridge.
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There's a whole Netflix documentary on it called, uh, the
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program cons cults and kidnapping. But I was really shocked
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by this Institute because, uh, What it essentially is, and
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I'm not going to ruin the plot for people that
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hasn't watched it or hasn't read the book, but they
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essentially get all of these gifted children that have psychic abilities.
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They drug them and then they turn them into essentially
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remote assassins. Like straight off, Mark, I'm like, what? you
506
00:31:30.190 --> 00:31:32.869
gotta be kidding me. I had already had this entire
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00:31:32.910 --> 00:31:36.450
movie written and where I was going to go before
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I ever even saw, uh, that I even knew about
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00:31:39.819 --> 00:31:42.819
the Institute and the Institute was a really recent book
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that Stephen King wrote. And, uh, I was just really shocked. And, and, um,
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and the Institute, I mean, the, The ending of it's
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kind of, you know, kind of whack or whatever, but
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00:31:55.450 --> 00:31:58.039
it's kind of how it goes with Stephen King stuff.
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He has a really good premise and then he just
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kind of botches it at the end. But I was
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really shocked by that and how they were, you know,
517
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using these children to. literally get inside of somebody else's
518
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head to commit crimes, to commit assassinations. And that is
519
00:32:18.549 --> 00:32:23.170
a very real thing that can be done. There was
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real exercises that the military were doing that would allow
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a remote viewer to see through the eyes of the target.
522
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Like you could literally get into the mind of another
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individual and see through their eyes and see what they
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were seeing. and then sometimes control their body and implant
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thoughts and ideas and beliefs into their head to make
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them do things that they otherwise wouldn't do. So I
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was really shocked.
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00:32:52.710 --> 00:32:56.789
Right. So ostensibly the remote viewing experiments were used in
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the Cold War era for espionage purposes to gain the
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upper hand on the political enemy. So we're told, you know,
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Soviet Russia, but the film speculates on how this technology
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may have been weaponized against the public. just regular people
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and that it can be used to get inside people's
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minds and drive their influences and behaviors as you just
535
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said by remote control so it's like flying a drone
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except you're not flying a drone you're getting inside someone's
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mind and driving the way that works so it takes
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on some very dark and shady overtones when you remove
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it from the military kind of applications which are just
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about justifiable you know somebody might be able to make
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an argument for this being in the national interest and such.
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But when that starts getting weaponized against regular people, that
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becomes a real problem.
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Absolutely, it does. And you can see some evidence of
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that with some incidents that has happened in schools and
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what people have claimed that, you know, voices telling them
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to do things. I mean, the latest... Makes you wonder.
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About all these school shootings, doesn't it? And all these
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terrorist events that go off.
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Murders.
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The most recent, the Lindsay Clancy case where she claimed
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that voices told her to kill her children. Whether that's
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an excuse or not, but that's been used for a
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really long time. William DeFeo in the Amityville horror case,
555
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that was the reason that he said that he killed
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his entire family, was that the voices told him to
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do it. You know, so when you get into this,
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it's like, well, this explains a lot of stuff. This explains,
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this could even possibly explain like paranormal activity. Maybe it's
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not even like a disembodied spirit. Maybe it's not even
561
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like a poltergeist. It could just be somebody else alive.
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Because there's this thing that's called.
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Lynn Buchanan talks about this, which is in the movie.
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He didn't talk about it in the movie, but he's
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talked about it on my show before. And he says
566
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that there was this remote viewing technique that was developed
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by Ingo Swann. Now, this is what he says. I
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00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:30.019
can't verify that this is 100% true. I'm just basing
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this off of what he said. He said it was
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called perfect sight integration. And perfect site integration was this
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remote viewing technique that got you outside of your body
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and took you directly to the location that you were
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trying to view. And it was an advanced technique because
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it gave you the ability to interact with the environment.
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Like you could change things as this duplicate astral version
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of of yourself you can interact you can move things
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like it would be like in the middle of the
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night if i was able to get outside of my
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body and travel to you mark devlin and then i
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just started knocking shit off of your table in the
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middle of the night well you couldn't see me right
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because i'd be in an astral version of myself so
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you would think that holy shit my house is haunted
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You know, but I'm actually just in there playing a
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prank on you and slamming the doors and I'm in
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the kitchen making a ruckus, flipping pans and closing cabinets
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and shit.
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It is another explanation for ghosts and poltergeists, isn't it?
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I've always thought that that was really interesting outlook on
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it because, you know, we've never really been able to
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explain the poltergeist like, And I think that that's a
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really solid explanation. I mean, it doesn't explain all of it,
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but it definitely could explain a portion of it that
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it doesn't have to be a dead entity or a
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dead spirit or a disembodied spirit. It can literally just
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be somebody that's alive or dead. Maybe they're just, their
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energy is so connected to the area and that when
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they're still alive and they want to be there really
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bad and then they just go there at night in
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their dream state and in their astral state and they
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don't even know. You know, that's also a possibility that
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our dreams are also interacting with our reality somehow. You know,
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because there's always a point Throughout any time of the day,
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we're at some point in the country where people are sleeping.
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Any time that you're awake or any time that you're asleep,
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there's somebody somewhere in the world that's sleeping. So it
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could be that they are interacting with you in this
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reality within the dream state, which brings in a whole
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other different conversation there. Right.
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So the GATE program for selecting gifted and talented children
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out of the public school system, Is that something you've
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identified as just happening in the United States or is
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that going to be happening in other nations? I'm specifically
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wondering about the UK because, again, I can't remember if
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I brought this dude up in our previous conversations, but
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00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:27.440
are you familiar with a TV presenter and like psychic
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sort of guy, Derren Brown? You know him?
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I have heard of Darren Brown. It might have been
619
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actually from you that was telling me about him. He's
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00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:39.429
a stage magician, right?
621
00:38:39.699 --> 00:38:42.070
Magician, yeah. It may have been me last time, yeah.
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He's kind of like a British version of David Blaine,
623
00:38:44.909 --> 00:38:47.769
I guess. He does similar mind tricks. And he had
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a TV show on Channel 4 for years. And he's
625
00:38:50.710 --> 00:38:54.670
absolutely fascinating. I've been to his live shows. He does hypnosis.
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00:38:54.710 --> 00:38:56.969
He does mind reading. He does all kinds of other
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seemingly psychic tricks, even though he denies that he's doing
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anything psychic. He's an atheist, he says, and everything he
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does can be rationally explained. It's just showmanship and sleight
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of hand. I'm not sure I believe him when he
631
00:39:10.849 --> 00:39:13.829
says that, but that's the way he explains what he does.
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But he had this thing that he once demonstrated on
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one of his TV shows. And he said that, uh,
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he used to get bullied at school and he developed
635
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.760
this ability where when he was getting bullied and smacked about,
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he could, uh, count, uh, like seemingly impossible numbers of things.
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And he demonstrated on one of his shows by getting
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a volunteer to smack him really hard around the face.
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And he kept saying harder, harder, hit me harder. And
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00:39:42.460 --> 00:39:44.940
when he'd been adequately smacked around the face, he would
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pour out this jar of buttons and look at them.
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00:39:48.050 --> 00:39:49.980
And be able to tell how many buttons were there
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00:39:50.019 --> 00:39:53.500
on the table. And it was like 283 buttons or something.
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00:39:53.780 --> 00:39:56.940
And he got it within one button. And he says
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that's an ability that came about as a result of
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being smacked about, which is trauma, right? Again, so it's
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00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.489
trauma unlocking these abilities in the mind, seemingly. And he
648
00:40:06.550 --> 00:40:09.829
turned it into like a stage trick. But this guy
649
00:40:09.949 --> 00:40:11.849
is just incredible in terms of what he can do
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with his mind. And it just reminds me of people
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like Charlie Kirk, for example. who is also mentioned in
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your documentary as somebody who seemingly came out of one
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of these gifted programs. And he was tapped early on
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for a future career in politics because of some of
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these abilities that he showed. And I've been watching a
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00:40:30.739 --> 00:40:32.880
bunch of debates that this guy had with a lot
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of these wokey sort of liberal lefty university types. And
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the way he debates is just incredible. He's just razor sharp.
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He's straight on it. He puts these arguments down in
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an instant. And I don't think that's a regular thing.
661
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That's something that's very special. It's very special mental abilities
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to be able to think that sharply. And so it
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wouldn't surprise me at all if he came out of
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one of these programs. But I'm just wondering if people
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like Derren Brown may have done as well. And when
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we see these people in the public eye, they've got
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00:41:04.869 --> 00:41:08.829
there because they were identified early in childhood as having
668
00:41:08.869 --> 00:41:12.010
these incredible abilities that could be used in some way
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to benefit the system.
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00:41:16.289 --> 00:41:20.030
That is very interesting, Mark, because if you recall, I
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00:41:20.300 --> 00:41:24.400
show a clip in psychic agent, the gate program of
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Marilyn Manson, essentially seeing that exact same thing. That's right.
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And it was Manson that made me think of Darren
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Brown when he said that.
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Unbelievable. Yeah, that's what he said, that he was going
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to that the CIA wanted to recruit him for his
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00:41:44.050 --> 00:41:46.570
ability to count the amount of things in a room
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00:41:46.610 --> 00:41:48.739
before anybody could ever recognize how many people were in
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a room, how many light sockets were in a room
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before anybody.
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00:41:52.139 --> 00:41:54.139
So you've got you've got Manson saying that in the
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United States, you've got Darren Brown saying it in England.
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So it makes me wonder whether this is an international program.
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I think that it is. I mean, there's been several
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people that has reached out to me after they have
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watched the movie. And actually, as I during the making
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of the movie, because I had reached out to people,
688
00:42:11.820 --> 00:42:14.880
I was like, hey, if anybody could email me their
689
00:42:14.900 --> 00:42:17.780
experiences in the gay program, like, let me know if
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you were in gifted and talented education. Several people reached
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out to me from the UK and said that they
692
00:42:22.409 --> 00:42:25.599
were involved in a very similar program. People reached out
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00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:28.219
to me from Australia and said that they were in
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a very similar program and in Canada as well. So
695
00:42:31.500 --> 00:42:36.019
this definitely seems like it's a complete global thing. And,
696
00:42:36.860 --> 00:42:40.110
you know, you're 100% right about Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk
697
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was in a gay program school. It was in Palatine, Illinois,
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called Creative Children's Academy. It's now been renamed Quest Academy
699
00:42:50.230 --> 00:42:56.829
in 1999. Lance Twiggs, the gay lover... of Tyler Robinson,
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00:42:56.849 --> 00:43:00.929
the guy who's been charged with the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
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00:43:01.530 --> 00:43:04.949
also went to a gate program school called Utah Tech
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00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:08.780
Success Academy. He was a highly gifted piano player and
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started then getting into, you know, drugs and alcohol, which
704
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kind of happens when you You know, reject that type
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00:43:18.940 --> 00:43:27.280
of programming, you end up on a self-destructive path. it's
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like a switch flips within you. And that's kind of
707
00:43:30.349 --> 00:43:34.530
what was happening to Charlie as well was that he was,
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he realized that he had been handled and pushed into
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a certain direction that his like doors had been opened
710
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for him that otherwise wouldn't have been open for him.
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00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.260
It doesn't mean that he didn't have any talent. Obviously
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he had an immense amount of talent, but that, you know, opportunities, uh,
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00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.969
were given to him that other people that may have
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00:43:59.010 --> 00:44:01.929
been just as talented would not have been given to
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00:44:01.989 --> 00:44:04.309
those people. It's kind of like with the music stuff,
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00:44:04.329 --> 00:44:09.230
you know, how many, how many singers were just as good,
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if not better than Elvis, but Elvis was the one
718
00:44:12.909 --> 00:44:15.949
that made it. How many musicians and singers were better
719
00:44:16.010 --> 00:44:16.780
than the Beatles?
720
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But the Beatles, we all know some, don't we?
721
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:23.619
But the Beatles were the ones that were popular and
722
00:44:23.659 --> 00:44:25.400
the ones that were pushed out there and the ones
723
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.059
that made all this money and were able to go
724
00:44:28.139 --> 00:44:31.659
on to do giant stadium tours and that are the
725
00:44:31.739 --> 00:44:35.409
instantly recognizable most popular band in the history of the world.
726
00:44:35.969 --> 00:44:36.170
Right.
727
00:44:36.230 --> 00:44:41.590
And And that's just a testament to what can be
728
00:44:41.670 --> 00:44:46.369
done through some of these programs. They can just open
729
00:44:46.429 --> 00:44:49.309
doors for you and put you around people and handle
730
00:44:49.369 --> 00:44:51.710
you and push you in a certain direction. But if
731
00:44:51.750 --> 00:44:57.639
you start to go off of that path, things start
732
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:01.980
to happen to you. Kind of exactly like what happened
733
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.360
with John Lennon, right? The same thing that happened with
734
00:45:06.420 --> 00:45:09.099
Charlie Kirk. When you start to get off the reservation
735
00:45:09.139 --> 00:45:11.519
there a little bit, and John Lennon is a completely
736
00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:15.539
different situation, but the outcome is still the same. The
737
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:18.099
same things essentially happened to both of them, right?
738
00:45:19.139 --> 00:45:22.670
Well, they both got blown away, yeah. No longer required,
739
00:45:22.869 --> 00:45:23.869
surplus to requirements.
740
00:45:24.429 --> 00:45:26.010
Exactly, and Lance Twiggs' family.
741
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Had multiple loans and mortgages on their $ 700, 000 home in
742
00:45:34.010 --> 00:45:37.409
Utah for several years. Okay, and then just a few
743
00:45:37.449 --> 00:45:42.960
months after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, Lance Twiggs' family was
744
00:45:43.059 --> 00:45:45.900
able to then pay off that $ 700, 000 loan, move to Texas.
745
00:45:51.340 --> 00:45:56.199
While their son is the key witness of one of
746
00:45:56.219 --> 00:46:01.360
the biggest high-profile political assassinations in modern history, they were
747
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:10.940
able to buy multiple houses. startup multiple businesses, charitable nonprofit organizations,
748
00:46:11.940 --> 00:46:17.119
and the mission statement for one of those nonprofit organization
749
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.170
is just, you know, how like if you're starting like
750
00:46:20.210 --> 00:46:22.949
a company or an organization or something, you have to
751
00:46:22.989 --> 00:46:26.550
like give a detailed description to the IRS. I don't
752
00:46:26.570 --> 00:46:28.030
know what it's like in the UK, but I would
753
00:46:28.070 --> 00:46:29.869
imagine that you have to do the same thing. We
754
00:46:29.909 --> 00:46:32.489
have to give a description. It's quite similar. a description
755
00:46:32.510 --> 00:46:35.210
of what your business is doing and how it's operating
756
00:46:35.250 --> 00:46:40.050
and everything. While the description for Lance twigs is families,
757
00:46:40.449 --> 00:46:46.929
nonprofit organization says just charity. That's, that's what our charitable
758
00:46:46.989 --> 00:46:49.360
organization is doing is just charity.
759
00:46:51.099 --> 00:46:51.199
Right.
760
00:46:51.219 --> 00:46:52.860
And then when you look into like, Oh, what is
761
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:56.599
all these charities actually doing? They're just giant money laundering operations. Right.
762
00:46:58.380 --> 00:47:02.920
That's another thing is like, St. Jude, like, I think
763
00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:04.840
that this is really what we should be really pissed
764
00:47:04.900 --> 00:47:08.130
off about. We should be really pissed off about these
765
00:47:08.610 --> 00:47:12.969
charitable organizations that don't seem to fix a damn thing, Mark.
766
00:47:13.820 --> 00:47:17.099
They don't fix anything. How long has St. Jude been
767
00:47:17.139 --> 00:47:19.960
doing cancer research? This is what we should be pissed
768
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:23.010
off at. We shouldn't be pissed off at somebody saying
769
00:47:23.030 --> 00:47:25.570
that Tupac was an actor and was out there to,
770
00:47:26.329 --> 00:47:29.969
you know, demoralize an entire generation. And there was a
771
00:47:29.989 --> 00:47:34.679
CIA plant for the military industrial prison complex, right? We
772
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.300
shouldn't be pissed off about that. We should be pissed
773
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:43.639
off at these freaking people. programs and charity organizations like St.
774
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:47.500
Jude that take billions of dollars in every year and
775
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:51.440
don't do anything. They are no closer to finding a
776
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:55.659
cure for cancer than they were 30 freaking years ago, Mark.
777
00:47:56.699 --> 00:47:59.429
One day we'll find a cure for cancer. No, you won't.
778
00:47:59.949 --> 00:48:03.449
Because then you wouldn't exist and your CEO wouldn't get
779
00:48:03.510 --> 00:48:06.329
paid and your shareholders wouldn't get paid. The last thing
780
00:48:06.349 --> 00:48:09.210
you want to do is find a cure for it. Meanwhile,
781
00:48:09.269 --> 00:48:11.929
more people get ill every year, more money is taken
782
00:48:11.969 --> 00:48:15.269
to find a cure, and the further and further away
783
00:48:15.630 --> 00:48:17.780
we seem to drift from ever finding one. Well, there
784
00:48:17.820 --> 00:48:20.659
are cures for cancer, actually, but we're not allowed to
785
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:22.780
talk about those, are we? Real cures.
786
00:48:23.940 --> 00:48:28.159
Exactly. It's so freaking ridiculous, and it really upsets me,
787
00:48:28.219 --> 00:48:31.019
if you can't tell. It just irks me, it grinds
788
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:36.849
my gears that we've been You know, the people continuously
789
00:48:37.130 --> 00:48:41.429
donate to organizations that don't do freaking anything. It's set
790
00:48:41.530 --> 00:48:43.880
up to pay off all the people that work at
791
00:48:43.909 --> 00:48:48.019
the NGOs, the CEOs, and it goes right into their pockets.
792
00:48:48.059 --> 00:48:50.039
And then it's a money laundering system to the people
793
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.539
that donate because those people sit on the boards of
794
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:56.119
all those corporations. So any kind of laundering that they
795
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:59.460
need done, they'll just donate to that corporation or that
796
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:01.559
charity that they said on the board of. And it
797
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:03.340
goes right back into their freaking pockets.
798
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:06.780
And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. And
799
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:08.949
one thing that pisses me off before this turns into
800
00:49:08.989 --> 00:49:12.929
a rant fest, but it is relevant, is we're coming
801
00:49:12.969 --> 00:49:15.610
up to the time of year, November, where in the
802
00:49:15.789 --> 00:49:19.949
UK we have to suffer the BBC's Children in Need.
803
00:49:20.369 --> 00:49:24.429
annual appeal. So this is where BBC TV and radio
804
00:49:25.289 --> 00:49:29.139
rattle the tins and try and emotionally coerce people into
805
00:49:29.179 --> 00:49:32.960
giving money for children. You know, let's help the children.
806
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:37.480
This is the same BBC that employed Jimmy Savile and
807
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:41.909
endless amounts of pdf files who have been shown to
808
00:49:41.949 --> 00:49:46.070
be so continually employed them for decades and decades and
809
00:49:46.110 --> 00:49:50.429
decades but meanwhile they want to moralize everyone about how
810
00:49:50.489 --> 00:49:52.730
they need to part with their money to help these
811
00:49:52.769 --> 00:49:55.510
poor children i don't really see them knocking on the
812
00:49:55.530 --> 00:49:58.829
doors of the rothschilds and you know the royal family
813
00:49:58.869 --> 00:50:01.289
and asking them for donations no it has to be
814
00:50:01.389 --> 00:50:05.449
regular everyday folk who are already being financially pressed they're
815
00:50:05.469 --> 00:50:08.190
the ones that are being goaded into giving more money
816
00:50:08.449 --> 00:50:12.170
by a corporation which has put many, many children at
817
00:50:12.269 --> 00:50:16.159
great risk. So never mind children in need. They're probably
818
00:50:16.219 --> 00:50:19.900
in need because of the BBC. But anyway, like I say,
819
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:21.099
don't get me started on that one.
820
00:50:21.380 --> 00:50:24.440
That's exactly right, Mark. You just hit the nail on
821
00:50:24.460 --> 00:50:27.179
the head. The people that are claiming to do the
822
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:29.280
things for the children are actually the ones that are
823
00:50:29.300 --> 00:50:32.360
responsible for doing the things to them. Right.
824
00:50:32.550 --> 00:50:36.090
Children would be a whole lot safer without these corporations around.
825
00:50:39.030 --> 00:50:43.889
Yes, it's exactly right. That is the biggest crime of all,
826
00:50:44.030 --> 00:50:48.170
is that the people that are claiming to help are
827
00:50:48.230 --> 00:50:50.719
the ones that are actually causing the problem. And that
828
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:56.280
has been the story of any government institution since the
829
00:50:56.300 --> 00:50:57.960
beginning of time. Right.
830
00:50:58.420 --> 00:51:02.960
And also, governmental institutions, or at least the third-party operations
831
00:51:02.980 --> 00:51:06.909
that they are in league with, create money out of nothing,
832
00:51:07.130 --> 00:51:11.110
literally out of thin air. They print so-called money and
833
00:51:11.150 --> 00:51:14.150
they type figures onto a computer screen and there's a
834
00:51:14.190 --> 00:51:17.409
million dollars that wasn't there before. So if they can
835
00:51:17.510 --> 00:51:20.579
literally create money out of nothing, how come they don't
836
00:51:20.699 --> 00:51:24.960
create money to alleviate all these situations of poverty and
837
00:51:25.219 --> 00:51:29.360
children in need and to really research a cure for cancer?
838
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:31.480
You wouldn't need to go after regular members of the
839
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.030
public rattling your tin, getting them to part with their
840
00:51:34.070 --> 00:51:36.829
cash when you could literally create the money out of nothing.
841
00:51:37.260 --> 00:51:40.469
They create money out of nothing for wars, to fund wars,
842
00:51:40.989 --> 00:51:42.610
but they don't seem to be able to fund things
843
00:51:42.650 --> 00:51:46.949
that actually benefit humanity. I know I'm sounding like myself
844
00:51:46.949 --> 00:51:50.329
20 years ago here when I first went into conspiracy research,
845
00:51:50.369 --> 00:51:54.929
but that's because nothing's actually changed in 20 years or
846
00:51:54.929 --> 00:51:56.489
200 years or 2000 years.
847
00:51:57.570 --> 00:52:01.469
Imagine that, Mark, a world where our problems are actually solved.
848
00:52:01.489 --> 00:52:04.610
And I'll tell you exactly why that those problems will
849
00:52:04.650 --> 00:52:08.789
never be solved because there's Millions of dollars that are
850
00:52:08.989 --> 00:52:13.530
allocated to solving those problems, but they don't actually go
851
00:52:13.610 --> 00:52:17.539
into solving those problems. They line the pockets of the politicians.
852
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.659
Or they get funneled into black ops projects like the
853
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.230
ones we've been talking about here off the books.
854
00:52:26.449 --> 00:52:30.769
That's where it all goes. That's exactly right. I mean,
855
00:52:30.789 --> 00:52:33.769
that's been set up with Danny Casolaro. He kind of
856
00:52:33.829 --> 00:52:38.429
broke that entire thing and this fragmented part of the CIA,
857
00:52:38.590 --> 00:52:43.070
this black budget CIA that went to Native American reservations
858
00:52:43.110 --> 00:52:45.570
within the United States because they were able to operate
859
00:52:45.829 --> 00:52:50.380
without government oversight on Native American reservations. And then they
860
00:52:50.389 --> 00:52:52.840
would set up all of these. That's how they would
861
00:52:52.860 --> 00:52:55.000
run their drugs. That's how they would run their guns.
862
00:52:55.019 --> 00:52:58.079
That's how they would run their trafficking operations. was out
863
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:01.440
of these native American reservations. And they were actually the
864
00:53:01.539 --> 00:53:04.639
ones that got them into the whole gambling thing. That's
865
00:53:04.780 --> 00:53:06.809
how they got them to build all these casinos because
866
00:53:06.829 --> 00:53:09.730
the casinos were giant money laundering operations for this block
867
00:53:09.789 --> 00:53:10.769
budget CIA.
868
00:53:13.610 --> 00:53:17.190
That's probably why we've got so many Turkish barbershops here
869
00:53:17.230 --> 00:53:18.800
in the UK. Now, I don't know if it's the
870
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:22.860
same in America, but any town of any reasonable size
871
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.500
that you go into anywhere in the UK is you'll
872
00:53:25.539 --> 00:53:28.480
find about eight to 10 Turkish barber shops. How many
873
00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:32.500
Turkish barber shops does one town need? And you can
874
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:35.400
pass these shops and there's never any customers in there.
875
00:53:36.059 --> 00:53:37.539
And you think, well, how do these guys stay in
876
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:40.340
business then? How do they make money? And you know
877
00:53:40.409 --> 00:53:43.429
that many of them have to be laundering operations. Many
878
00:53:43.449 --> 00:53:46.590
of these vape shops as well, you've got like 12
879
00:53:46.590 --> 00:53:50.590
vape shops in the average British high street. So they've
880
00:53:50.630 --> 00:53:53.210
just sprung up out of nowhere and there's got to
881
00:53:53.230 --> 00:53:54.429
be a real reason for that.
882
00:53:55.670 --> 00:53:58.420
Well, that's kind of what Walter Bosley is talking about
883
00:53:58.460 --> 00:54:02.539
within the movie Psychic Agent, The Gate Program, is that
884
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:08.570
the CIA, the FBI, these intelligence organizations can literally set
885
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:13.809
up an operation. That for a front business and you
886
00:54:13.829 --> 00:54:16.820
would never know that it was an FBI or CIA
887
00:54:17.460 --> 00:54:21.719
front company because it looks like a regular freaking business.
888
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.579
He used the example of like you could be working
889
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.920
for a donut shop and not know that you're a
890
00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:31.159
part of an FBI undercover operation has been running for
891
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.619
10 years. And he says that he knows this because
892
00:54:33.659 --> 00:54:35.809
he was involved in them. He was involved in one
893
00:54:35.849 --> 00:54:38.750
in Manhattan that was a 10-year operation against the Soviets
894
00:54:38.789 --> 00:54:43.809
that was in a building that was a very famous building.
895
00:54:43.829 --> 00:54:45.550
He told me the name of it, but he didn't
896
00:54:45.590 --> 00:54:48.239
want me to let out that information because he doesn't
897
00:54:48.260 --> 00:54:51.059
know if they're still using it. But I actually show
898
00:54:52.380 --> 00:54:54.739
the visual representation of the building in the movie, but
899
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:56.900
we just couldn't say it, right? You can show it,
900
00:54:56.900 --> 00:55:00.179
but you can't say it. And he said that only
901
00:55:00.409 --> 00:55:03.610
two people in the entire building knew that his son
902
00:55:04.349 --> 00:55:07.949
operation was an undercover FBI operation. And that's kind of
903
00:55:08.750 --> 00:55:11.909
really what the whole thing is, is it's so concealed
904
00:55:11.949 --> 00:55:15.360
and so compartmentalized that you would never know who is
905
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.480
funding this organization, who is funding this business. I mean,
906
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:21.000
there was a whole thing that came out a couple
907
00:55:21.019 --> 00:55:24.909
of years ago about how Mossad was using the, um,
908
00:55:26.530 --> 00:55:32.760
But the intermediaries and malls, like the mall kiosk that you,
909
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:36.159
you know, you're walking down like a regular mall, like
910
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:38.099
an inside mall and you have the kiosk in the
911
00:55:38.139 --> 00:55:39.400
center of the mall. I don't know how they do
912
00:55:39.420 --> 00:55:42.969
it in the UK, but they were saying that that
913
00:55:42.989 --> 00:55:49.710
those mall kiosk were Mossad operations. So it's like, well,
914
00:55:49.730 --> 00:55:51.789
you know, what's what's actually going on here? How many
915
00:55:51.809 --> 00:55:58.960
of these businesses are actually FBI? cia front organizations and
916
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:03.860
front businesses that are carrying out legitimate operations in front
917
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:05.369
of our faces and we don't even know.
918
00:56:05.260 --> 00:56:10.119
It you'll never know and just going back to what
919
00:56:10.179 --> 00:56:14.489
you discuss in psychic agent there there's the suggestion that
920
00:56:14.889 --> 00:56:16.690
a lot of these psychic powers that they were trying
921
00:56:16.730 --> 00:56:21.429
to develop and harness in children were eventually being used
922
00:56:21.590 --> 00:56:28.110
to assassinate people remotely remote assassinations. Makes me wonder, actually,
923
00:56:28.369 --> 00:56:30.650
if that's what they did to Stanley Kubrick when he
924
00:56:30.690 --> 00:56:32.590
finally pissed him off and went a step too far.
925
00:56:32.849 --> 00:56:35.210
And he just happened to have a heart attack right
926
00:56:35.250 --> 00:56:38.329
before Eyes Wide Shut was released. But there's the idea
927
00:56:38.369 --> 00:56:42.280
that you can assassinate somebody remotely. And you got Lynn
928
00:56:42.300 --> 00:56:45.500
Buchanan in the show who says that he was actually
929
00:56:45.739 --> 00:56:49.539
asked to assassinate Osama bin Laden. And he refused to
930
00:56:49.579 --> 00:56:52.039
do it because he said he wasn't going to kill anyone.
931
00:56:53.139 --> 00:56:57.289
So There's the movie, The Men Who Stare at Goats,
932
00:56:57.929 --> 00:57:01.510
starring George Clooney, that came out some years ago. And
933
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:06.719
that seems to take this idea, but treat it in
934
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:10.860
a very mocking, parody, kind of spoofy sort of way.
935
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:15.199
And it's ostensibly a comedy about these military guys who
936
00:57:15.260 --> 00:57:18.699
are trained to use psychic powers to kill goats. And
937
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:21.489
it seems there's more of telling us what really goes
938
00:57:21.590 --> 00:57:24.510
on there but they've obviously dressed it up to be
939
00:57:24.590 --> 00:57:27.909
this fairly ridiculous thing. It's similar to what they were
940
00:57:27.949 --> 00:57:30.610
doing in Stranger Things. They're telling you what really goes on,
941
00:57:31.380 --> 00:57:33.840
but because it forms the narrative of a TV show
942
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:37.440
or a movie, most people who've never looked into these
943
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:41.000
things would never imagine that they're being told the truth
944
00:57:41.059 --> 00:57:45.840
about technology that actually exists. It goes back to this
945
00:57:46.349 --> 00:57:50.429
tenet that they seem to need to continually observe of
946
00:57:50.530 --> 00:57:53.789
telling us what they're doing but just not being open
947
00:57:53.829 --> 00:57:56.849
and candid about it, doing it in cryptic coded form
948
00:57:57.409 --> 00:57:58.449
through popular culture.
949
00:58:01.610 --> 00:58:08.420
Lynn told me off recording off screen that, uh, yes,
950
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:11.179
it is possible. What she says it in the movie
951
00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:15.000
is like, it is possible to, uh, psychically assassinate someone.
952
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:18.510
And The Minister of Goats was actually a combination of
953
00:58:19.250 --> 00:58:21.730
a few different programs. One of the programs that was
954
00:58:21.889 --> 00:58:27.050
never disclosed, that apparently had to do with psychic abilities
955
00:58:27.150 --> 00:58:32.820
being used in combat, and the Stargate remote viewing unit.
956
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.739
It was a comedy spin. I thought it was really funny.
957
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:37.559
I actually really liked the movie. Lynn thought that it
958
00:58:37.619 --> 00:58:40.780
was funny as well. But the main character in there,
959
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:45.469
Lynn Cassidy... is based off of Lynn Buchanan. I mean,
960
00:58:45.489 --> 00:58:47.860
they both have the exact same name. And some of
961
00:58:47.900 --> 00:58:51.159
the things that were attributed to Lynn Cassidy in the
962
00:58:51.219 --> 00:58:54.760
movie are some of the things that, you know, Lynn
963
00:58:54.780 --> 00:58:58.840
Buchanan says happened to him or that he was involved with.
964
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:03.530
Of course, things are embellished for, you know, the movies
965
00:59:04.050 --> 00:59:08.030
and Hollywood. But he said that, yes, it is possible
966
00:59:08.110 --> 00:59:11.820
to psychically assassinate someone But then he told me off camera,
967
00:59:11.860 --> 00:59:15.500
he was like, you know, what would you rather do, Ryder?
968
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:26.159
Would you rather... Have someone just die in a cave, right? Like,
969
00:59:26.860 --> 00:59:30.179
if I were to just, you know, kill Osama bin
970
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:34.659
Laden with my mind, like, what is that really going
971
00:59:34.699 --> 00:59:39.630
to do? You know, what is, it's not going to
972
00:59:39.690 --> 00:59:43.650
be dramatic if he just dies of a heart attack.
973
00:59:45.260 --> 00:59:47.940
Because that's the way that he explained to me. He
974
00:59:47.980 --> 00:59:51.260
didn't exactly say that that's how... I had to fish
975
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:56.179
around with him because he's a very high-ranking intelligence. He
976
00:59:56.219 --> 01:00:00.849
had a very high-ranking clearance. He claims like... above the
977
01:00:00.889 --> 01:00:05.010
president during the time that he was in the military.
978
01:00:05.989 --> 01:00:10.440
And only a very few, few other people had that
979
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.960
high of a security clearance. And he had information about
980
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:16.559
things that didn't have anything to do with remote viewing.
981
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:19.289
He had information, top secret clearance on a lot of
982
01:00:19.369 --> 01:00:23.500
other different things, but he said, well, Yeah, you could
983
01:00:23.539 --> 01:00:25.800
do that. You could just take somebody out psychically, but
984
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:29.500
that's not going to create the political upheaval in the
985
01:00:29.619 --> 01:00:33.090
whole persona and the agenda that you want to push, right?
986
01:00:33.630 --> 01:00:39.750
The best way to do it would be to convince
987
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:45.179
somebody else to carry out the act. Get into somebody
988
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:50.900
else's head. Convince them that they need to go out
989
01:00:51.019 --> 01:00:53.019
and assassinate, kill.
990
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:54.909
Or murder somebody.
991
01:00:54.929 --> 01:00:59.929
Right. And then have them do it. Because then you also...
992
01:01:01.449 --> 01:01:05.070
They're also kind of skirting around the karmic repercussions of
993
01:01:05.090 --> 01:01:10.389
that because Dale Graff, the operations manager of the Stargate
994
01:01:10.429 --> 01:01:12.760
remote viewing unit, comes in there and talks about it.
995
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:14.519
And he was like, yeah, well, you know, there's a
996
01:01:14.539 --> 01:01:19.519
blowback effect to doing that type of work to mentally,
997
01:01:19.579 --> 01:01:23.039
psychically assassinating someone. You're going to get a lot of
998
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:27.030
karmic repercussions for doing that. And I think that's also
999
01:01:27.090 --> 01:01:29.909
why They kind of have to tell us what they're
1000
01:01:29.929 --> 01:01:32.230
doing before they do it because it's a karmic thing
1001
01:01:32.309 --> 01:01:35.250
as well as like a predictive programming thing. They want
1002
01:01:35.269 --> 01:01:40.469
to get around the karmic repercussions of doing inhumane things
1003
01:01:41.030 --> 01:01:45.639
against the population. So they tell you before they do it.
1004
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:47.300
By telling you they're going to do it. And then
1005
01:01:47.340 --> 01:01:49.280
when you don't object, they see it as a green
1006
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:50.579
light because you didn't say no.
1007
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:51.960
Boom.
1008
01:01:51.980 --> 01:01:53.480
Which is a sick way of looking at it.
1009
01:01:54.139 --> 01:01:56.659
Very sick, but that's what's happening. And I think that
1010
01:01:56.719 --> 01:01:58.760
Lin is on to that. I think he's 100% on
1011
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:02.829
to that. Because if Osama bin Laden just died of
1012
01:02:02.849 --> 01:02:05.829
a heart attack, then who really cares? You want to
1013
01:02:05.869 --> 01:02:08.929
have SEAL Team 6 go in, take him out, throw
1014
01:02:08.949 --> 01:02:10.789
his body in the ocean. We never get to see
1015
01:02:10.829 --> 01:02:14.929
his body, right? He's just gone. It's over. We've taken it.
1016
01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:19.139
So the American could go, hoorah, yeah, hoorah. We did it.
1017
01:02:19.260 --> 01:02:21.900
Ten years after he actually did die, by the way,
1018
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:24.119
because they forgot to tell you that he died at
1019
01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:27.019
the end of 2001. But I guess that's not important.
1020
01:02:28.889 --> 01:02:31.769
And he was also a CIA asset. So they were
1021
01:02:31.789 --> 01:02:34.909
taking out one of their own. It seems that if
1022
01:02:34.929 --> 01:02:37.010
you get into bed with these people, they're not beyond
1023
01:02:37.590 --> 01:02:40.650
throwing you under a bus when they decided you've outlived
1024
01:02:40.690 --> 01:02:41.349
your usefulness.
1025
01:02:43.050 --> 01:02:46.639
They will take you out. They will character assassinate you.
1026
01:02:46.690 --> 01:02:49.469
They will try and, if that doesn't work, they'll try
1027
01:02:49.510 --> 01:02:52.389
and bankrupt you. They'll do anything in their power to.
1028
01:02:52.469 --> 01:02:53.789
Just ask P. Diddy, right?
1029
01:02:55.750 --> 01:02:59.610
Oh, Diddy, bro. That's another thing, too, along with the
1030
01:02:59.659 --> 01:03:03.760
Tupac stuff. I was like, so you guys believe that
1031
01:03:03.820 --> 01:03:08.230
Diddy was baby-oiling up and bending dudes over... But you
1032
01:03:08.269 --> 01:03:11.940
don't want to believe that it's a possibility that Tupac
1033
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:14.719
was running that same way. Wow.
1034
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:23.179
That's hero worship. And this is where the Manchurian candidate
1035
01:03:23.489 --> 01:03:26.530
stuff comes in as well, because if you can program
1036
01:03:26.610 --> 01:03:31.449
somebody like Mark Chapman or John Hinckley or Sirhan Sirhan
1037
01:03:31.949 --> 01:03:34.190
to go out and carry out one of these assassinations,
1038
01:03:34.780 --> 01:03:38.980
It becomes much more newsworthy and shocking and develops the
1039
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:44.670
wanted public attitude than saying JFK passed away in the
1040
01:03:44.690 --> 01:03:47.570
night of a heart attack. If it's this violent event
1041
01:03:47.610 --> 01:03:50.449
that takes place in broad daylight, you could even throw
1042
01:03:50.510 --> 01:03:53.409
Tupac into that because we're told that he got shot
1043
01:03:53.449 --> 01:03:56.480
on the Las Vegas Strip in front of hundreds of
1044
01:03:56.599 --> 01:03:59.500
witnesses on one of the busiest streets in America, but
1045
01:03:59.539 --> 01:04:02.039
the cops took 30 years to catch anyone for it.
1046
01:04:02.630 --> 01:04:07.550
It just becomes more visual, more memorable, more shocking, more traumatizing,
1047
01:04:07.869 --> 01:04:09.389
which is the effect they're always after.
1048
01:04:10.889 --> 01:04:13.630
And that might have been a reason why people got
1049
01:04:13.710 --> 01:04:16.400
more upset with me this time around when I talked
1050
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:20.519
about it, because that whole thing, they just arrested... Who
1051
01:04:20.539 --> 01:04:22.099
was the guy that they arrested for his murder?
1052
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:24.599
Dwayne Keefy D. Davis.
1053
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:27.760
What a name, dude. Why does it have to deal
1054
01:04:27.780 --> 01:04:29.289
with these people's names, bro?
1055
01:04:30.429 --> 01:04:34.960
Yeah, some... Drug dealer, criminal sort of thing, you know.
1056
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:38.190
I mean, this guy's name has been coming up for decades,
1057
01:04:38.329 --> 01:04:41.969
but the cops, bless them, just took 30 years to
1058
01:04:42.070 --> 01:04:44.519
put a case together. Too busy eating donuts, I guess.
1059
01:04:46.630 --> 01:04:49.110
You know, it's so weird. Like just the people's names,
1060
01:04:49.190 --> 01:04:53.210
Bill Gates, you know, Gates, Gates of Hell, you know,
1061
01:04:53.309 --> 01:04:57.789
like Sam Altman, the Altar of Man. Like these people
1062
01:04:57.849 --> 01:05:01.829
have such weird freaking names like that, that seem so
1063
01:05:02.010 --> 01:05:09.920
on the nose that it's like. Like, what's the dude
1064
01:05:09.940 --> 01:05:15.360
that tried to assassinate Trump? Tyler Crooks? Like, what? Where
1065
01:05:15.380 --> 01:05:17.980
are they getting these people with these freaking names? It's
1066
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:22.179
like they're making fun of us with the names of
1067
01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:22.880
these people.
1068
01:05:23.429 --> 01:05:26.050
That was Tupac's name as well. His real name was Crooks.
1069
01:05:30.769 --> 01:05:31.409
Wild.
1070
01:05:32.150 --> 01:05:34.230
Yeah. Holy shit.
1071
01:05:35.989 --> 01:05:39.090
I think that that comes down to, I'm definitely not
1072
01:05:39.110 --> 01:05:40.949
going to go down this tangent or be here till
1073
01:05:40.989 --> 01:05:43.269
two o'clock in the morning, but what I refer to
1074
01:05:43.309 --> 01:05:46.030
as matrix coding, which is going to be the subject
1075
01:05:46.070 --> 01:05:50.539
of my next book. This reality in which we find
1076
01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:53.360
ourselves and the way it's constructed and programmed, I think
1077
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:56.780
it's mathematically coded when you strip it down to its
1078
01:05:56.820 --> 01:05:59.610
core level. And it's akin to a piece of computer
1079
01:05:59.619 --> 01:06:03.480
software or a virtual reality video game. and you've got
1080
01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:06.820
all this stuff playing out into physical manifestation, but before
1081
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:10.719
it becomes that, it's code and it operates on that level.
1082
01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:14.739
And I think it's responsible for things like irony, the
1083
01:06:14.900 --> 01:06:23.690
irony of people's names, Gates and all these others, and coincidences, serendipity, synchromysticism.
1084
01:06:24.369 --> 01:06:26.769
I think it can all be explained by stripping it
1085
01:06:26.849 --> 01:06:30.989
all back to what this reality is before it becomes
1086
01:06:31.050 --> 01:06:34.139
what we experience. Like I say, that's a big subject area.
1087
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:36.119
It's not one that I intend to get into on
1088
01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:39.159
this show. It's something for another day. But I think
1089
01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:42.219
that's what explains all this. And, you know, apparent ironies.
1090
01:06:42.429 --> 01:06:46.070
Because people throw that one at me with regard to
1091
01:06:46.110 --> 01:06:49.610
my own name. They're like, oh, you expose Satanism and
1092
01:06:49.630 --> 01:06:53.670
occult symbolism and stuff. And your name is Mark Devlin. Like,
1093
01:06:53.710 --> 01:06:57.610
you've got the mark of the devil in you. And,
1094
01:06:58.489 --> 01:07:02.099
you know, they try and make something of that. But
1095
01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:05.219
there's many other examples. You know, Mark Passio is a
1096
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:08.989
highly passionate individual. And that just happens to be his name.
1097
01:07:09.269 --> 01:07:13.710
Masaru Omoto, the Japanese guy that studied water consciousness, a
1098
01:07:13.750 --> 01:07:18.579
very emotive subject. And his name was Omoto. So, you know,
1099
01:07:18.699 --> 01:07:20.440
I don't think any of this stuff is by accident.
1100
01:07:21.139 --> 01:07:23.639
Yeah, it seems like it's kind of like fulfilling a destiny,
1101
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:30.920
but I feel like the cabalistic people just put it
1102
01:07:31.019 --> 01:07:34.170
out there in our face like they're laughing at us
1103
01:07:34.230 --> 01:07:39.469
in a way. I mean, what did I say? Sam Altman. Well,
1104
01:07:39.650 --> 01:07:42.869
you can look at that as like Samael, which is
1105
01:07:42.909 --> 01:07:47.719
the angel of death, right? I mean, Yuval Harari is
1106
01:07:47.739 --> 01:07:53.670
a demonic name, right? It's literally the name of a demon. Okay,
1107
01:07:53.710 --> 01:07:56.719
and all of the AI companies all use the one
1108
01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:02.159
eye symbolism, right? Open AI and NVIDIA is the evil eye.
1109
01:08:02.539 --> 01:08:05.679
Oracle is the sea into the future. It's in the name.
1110
01:08:06.739 --> 01:08:09.980
Then you got Stargate AI, which is a big connection here.
1111
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:12.090
One of the first things that Trump did whenever he
1112
01:08:12.110 --> 01:08:14.829
got back in the office in the second term, Stargate AI,
1113
01:08:17.170 --> 01:08:18.090
gate to the other world.
1114
01:08:19.220 --> 01:08:21.859
You got Elon Musk and wasn't Elon the name of
1115
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:27.130
some like E.T. entity or some character in some science
1116
01:08:27.189 --> 01:08:30.689
fiction story from decades ago? I forget the exact reference, but,
1117
01:08:30.970 --> 01:08:33.770
you know, Elon is a very unusual name. And you
1118
01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:35.979
have this guy popping up and, you know, he's got
1119
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:39.039
the same name as some character from some science fiction
1120
01:08:39.060 --> 01:08:40.300
film or book.
1121
01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:45.520
It might've been a Warner Von Braun that wrote that
1122
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.050
book that said that somebody was going to name Elon.
1123
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:54.140
Oh no, that was the, that's the, uh, Baron Trump book.
1124
01:08:54.140 --> 01:08:55.090
Oh yeah.
1125
01:08:55.090 --> 01:08:59.579
Yeah. yeah it talks about so awkward yeah that is
1126
01:08:59.810 --> 01:09:02.510
uh that a man named elon is going to take
1127
01:09:02.550 --> 01:09:03.729
us to mars but it seems.
1128
01:09:03.590 --> 01:09:05.949
There's some reference i'm sure people watching this know the
1129
01:09:05.989 --> 01:09:07.569
reference anyway to elon.
1130
01:09:07.810 --> 01:09:09.710
It's hard for us to remember some certain things, guys.
1131
01:09:09.729 --> 01:09:10.930
You're going to have to forgive us. We've got so
1132
01:09:10.949 --> 01:09:12.810
much stuff that we've got to remember in our brain.
1133
01:09:13.109 --> 01:09:15.520
But it seems like Elon has kind of abandoned the
1134
01:09:15.539 --> 01:09:19.119
whole Mars thing, and now he's more on track with
1135
01:09:19.140 --> 01:09:22.760
the moon. He's on with the moon again. Did you
1136
01:09:22.779 --> 01:09:24.600
see the tweet from the White House the other day
1137
01:09:24.659 --> 01:09:24.979
that was.
1138
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:26.760
Like, we're going to put.
1139
01:09:26.619 --> 01:09:28.430
A permanent base on the moon?
1140
01:09:29.550 --> 01:09:31.010
Yeah, you know the day they're going to do that?
1141
01:09:31.029 --> 01:09:32.909
It's the same.
1142
01:09:32.609 --> 01:09:34.930
Day they find a cure for cancer. They're going to
1143
01:09:34.949 --> 01:09:35.729
happen on the same day.
1144
01:09:39.489 --> 01:09:41.810
Or when they finally freaking land on the moon because
1145
01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:45.800
they definitely didn't go in 1969. Come on, bro. That's right.
1146
01:09:46.550 --> 01:09:47.529
Nor any time since.
1147
01:09:48.989 --> 01:09:52.189
Yeah, so I thought that was really funny. I was like, yeah,
1148
01:09:52.329 --> 01:09:54.210
how are you guys going to put a freaking base
1149
01:09:54.289 --> 01:09:56.529
on the moon when you never even went in.
1150
01:09:56.489 --> 01:09:57.710
The first place, dude?
1151
01:09:58.310 --> 01:10:02.520
Right. Unbelievable. But it seems like that's, you know, and
1152
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:05.020
I don't know. I don't know what to think of
1153
01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:08.500
Elon Musk. What do you think?
1154
01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:10.060
Well, I don't trust him, that's for sure.
1155
01:10:10.699 --> 01:10:10.899
Yeah.
1156
01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:13.359
How can you trust a billionaire?
1157
01:10:13.380 --> 01:10:17.109
Do you ever get on that show?
1158
01:10:18.100 --> 01:10:21.050
You can't trust anyone that rises to that position of
1159
01:10:21.310 --> 01:10:25.210
influence because they didn't do it under their own steam.
1160
01:10:26.149 --> 01:10:29.369
They were obviously elevated by those that can make these
1161
01:10:29.409 --> 01:10:31.909
things happen. So how can you trust anyone in a
1162
01:10:31.930 --> 01:10:36.069
position like that? Yeah.
1163
01:10:36.149 --> 01:10:38.470
And all these families, too. See, there's a really big
1164
01:10:38.510 --> 01:10:41.069
connection here that I didn't even get into in the
1165
01:10:41.130 --> 01:10:47.369
actual documentary itself, which is a big Jeffrey Epstein connection
1166
01:10:47.750 --> 01:10:52.550
to the books that we've been given in public school
1167
01:10:52.590 --> 01:10:59.420
and education. So. The Rockefellers were actually funding some of
1168
01:10:59.449 --> 01:11:03.060
the psychic research going back to the 30s. We talk
1169
01:11:03.100 --> 01:11:05.420
about it in the movie, which is out of Duke University,
1170
01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:09.590
which is the Zinner Cards. that have the symbols on
1171
01:11:09.609 --> 01:11:11.930
the back of the cards. And this was used on
1172
01:11:12.329 --> 01:11:15.670
indigenous school children in Canada and also within the United States.
1173
01:11:15.689 --> 01:11:18.899
This is something that a lot of people remember within
1174
01:11:18.939 --> 01:11:23.020
the gifted and talented education programs is these flashcards. They
1175
01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:24.899
would sit down with a teacher or somebody that was,
1176
01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:29.000
you know, running the test and they would have a flashcard.
1177
01:11:29.020 --> 01:11:32.550
You can just get on Google and type in center
1178
01:11:32.569 --> 01:11:35.310
cards and you can find out all about this. where
1179
01:11:35.489 --> 01:11:38.300
then they would have the child, you know, be like,
1180
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:40.500
they would ask the child, what's the next symbol on
1181
01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:42.670
the back of the card was a psychic card game.
1182
01:11:43.609 --> 01:11:54.800
And the Rothschilds were instrumental in creating the textbooks that
1183
01:11:55.000 --> 01:12:00.000
the United States used in public school. So when the
1184
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:03.300
Rothschilds needed to take over Wall Street, they did it
1185
01:12:03.380 --> 01:12:08.140
by sending this gentleman to New York. to oversee the
1186
01:12:08.180 --> 01:12:13.260
purchase of this media company called MacMillan Inc. And MacMillan Inc.
1187
01:12:13.300 --> 01:12:16.279
would later be known as McGraw-Hill, which changed its name,
1188
01:12:17.300 --> 01:12:22.659
which McGraw-Hill is responsible for a majority of the elementary
1189
01:12:22.699 --> 01:12:25.829
school books in America that kids were raised on and
1190
01:12:26.050 --> 01:12:28.310
taught in public school. And the person that they sent
1191
01:12:28.350 --> 01:12:33.069
to do this, Mark, was none other than Robert Maxwell.
1192
01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:39.539
Ghislaine Maxwell's dad, Robert Maxwell, was working for the Rothschilds.
1193
01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:42.989
He was their main guy. And when Maxwell would go off...
1194
01:12:42.939 --> 01:12:46.739
Was that spy? Yes, exactly. He was the original Epstein.
1195
01:12:47.979 --> 01:12:51.199
He was Epstein before Epstein was Epstein. Well, there was
1196
01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:54.079
another guy that was actually Epstein before Epstein, before Maxwell
1197
01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:57.319
was ever in the picture, which was Meyer Lansky. But
1198
01:13:00.050 --> 01:13:02.590
Maxwell was working for the Rothschild family through the Bank
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01:13:02.609 --> 01:13:05.670
of England, right? He was connected to... you know, running
1200
01:13:05.689 --> 01:13:09.470
all these corporate blackmail schemes to take over giant corporations and,
1201
01:13:10.350 --> 01:13:14.350
you know, blackmail people throughout the entire world ran by
1202
01:13:14.409 --> 01:13:18.119
Mossad and funded by England, right? And when he died,
1203
01:13:18.140 --> 01:13:25.859
Epstein and Ghislaine just took that entire operation over. Epstein
1204
01:13:25.899 --> 01:13:30.869
had just been introduced to Maxwell only like six months
1205
01:13:30.930 --> 01:13:34.789
prior to Maxwell's death. Epstein was.
1206
01:13:35.279 --> 01:13:37.619
Yeah, somebody dropped a banana skin on the deck of
1207
01:13:37.659 --> 01:13:41.189
his yacht, and he slipped right in. Terrible accident.
1208
01:13:42.350 --> 01:13:45.630
Doing it like that Mario Kart... on Mario Kart, dude.
1209
01:13:46.270 --> 01:13:53.720
All right. Yeah, so Jeff Epstein was essentially the replacement
1210
01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:56.399
for him, and he was the one that was responsible
1211
01:13:56.439 --> 01:13:59.560
for a lot of the elementary school books in public school.
1212
01:13:59.699 --> 01:14:02.260
Oh, does that include Catcher in the Rye? Probably does.
1213
01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:03.609
Hmm.
1214
01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:08.439
That would be really interesting. Uh, I think that it
1215
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:10.699
might've been, I'm pretty sure that it was just like
1216
01:14:10.779 --> 01:14:15.520
educational history books. Uh, but I'm sure that I would
1217
01:14:15.539 --> 01:14:19.979
like to know who funded, uh, Catcher in the Rye.
1218
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:24.359
Cause you could probably chase, trace that back. Cause he
1219
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:28.100
had to have been, uh, funded by somebody to write
1220
01:14:28.119 --> 01:14:28.520
the book.
1221
01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:28.779
Right.
1222
01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:30.020
Hmm.
1223
01:14:31.060 --> 01:14:35.680
All right. So going back to remote viewing, have you
1224
01:14:35.739 --> 01:14:38.880
heard this account that there was an operation a few
1225
01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:43.229
years back where, not sure if it's the CIA or
1226
01:14:43.789 --> 01:14:47.130
other departments, but they employed a bunch of remote viewers
1227
01:14:47.750 --> 01:14:51.170
to look into the future and try and figure out
1228
01:14:51.409 --> 01:14:53.409
what was going to happen in terms of where humanity
1229
01:14:53.449 --> 01:14:58.920
was headed. And they all came back with the same story,
1230
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:03.279
which was that all the possible potential outcomes in terms
1231
01:15:03.340 --> 01:15:07.840
of future timelines converged at a singular point and they
1232
01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:09.800
just could not get beyond it it was like a
1233
01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:12.819
done deal it was written that things were going to
1234
01:15:12.859 --> 01:15:15.760
play out a certain way and they were going to
1235
01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:18.890
play out in the favor of humanity to the detriment
1236
01:15:18.979 --> 01:15:21.510
of the elite control system are you at all familiar
1237
01:15:21.529 --> 01:15:23.029
with that story do you know what i'm talking about
1238
01:15:23.069 --> 01:15:23.369
there or.
1239
01:15:24.189 --> 01:15:27.010
I have heard that before. Now I'm not for sure
1240
01:15:27.109 --> 01:15:32.489
who was involved in that remote viewing. That sounds like a, um,
1241
01:15:33.050 --> 01:15:36.949
one of those institutes, um, that's done a lot of
1242
01:15:37.020 --> 01:15:40.239
remote viewing and forget what it's called, but it's something.
1243
01:15:40.260 --> 01:15:41.880
I don't know if that would have been a hopium
1244
01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:45.779
story to make people think that everything's going to turn out. Okay. Um,
1245
01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:48.039
you know, it'd be great if that did turn out
1246
01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:50.180
to be the case, but, uh, I just wondered if
1247
01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:52.100
there was any validity to those accounts.
1248
01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:56.840
That I'm not too sure. Now, Lynn Buchanan has remote
1249
01:15:56.859 --> 01:15:58.819
viewed the future. He said that he went as far
1250
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:07.270
as into 2050. And he said that starting in now,
1251
01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:10.470
this is according to him. This is what he viewed
1252
01:16:10.529 --> 01:16:14.750
in like the early 2000s. OK, so take it with
1253
01:16:15.170 --> 01:16:21.069
what you will. But he said that starting in 2030.
1254
01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:27.800
War basically has erupted all over the world and the
1255
01:16:27.859 --> 01:16:31.600
countries start running out of war resources. So they start
1256
01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:42.260
using weather modification technology to wipe out other countries. So
1257
01:16:42.340 --> 01:16:50.609
they'll start doing, you know, manufactured earthquakes, manufactured hurricanes, manufactured fires,
1258
01:16:51.489 --> 01:16:53.489
burn people out, flood people out. And we kind of
1259
01:16:53.510 --> 01:16:56.819
see that happening in Nepal. I mean, there's a whole thing.
1260
01:16:59.340 --> 01:17:01.939
Southern California is getting hit by a tropical storm. It's
1261
01:17:01.979 --> 01:17:04.270
one of the first ones that's been this bad in
1262
01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:08.130
a really long time in Southern California. And he says
1263
01:17:08.189 --> 01:17:12.729
that that happens all the way up until the end
1264
01:17:13.630 --> 01:17:19.630
of 2040. That all of these man-made natural disasters that
1265
01:17:19.670 --> 01:17:27.649
have been orchestrated and perpetuated by the government themselves to
1266
01:17:29.449 --> 01:17:32.109
take out large groups of people. He said that over.
1267
01:17:34.069 --> 01:17:37.489
Again, this is what he said, not confirming it, not
1268
01:17:37.510 --> 01:17:43.369
trying to fear people into anything, but he said that
1269
01:17:44.350 --> 01:17:51.600
around approximately by the year of 2040, 75% of the population,
1270
01:17:52.180 --> 01:17:55.819
the world's population, will be taken out.
1271
01:17:57.300 --> 01:17:59.899
I was hoping there might be some good news in there,
1272
01:17:59.979 --> 01:18:01.960
which is why I asked the question, but my bad.
1273
01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:03.699
Silly me.
1274
01:18:04.550 --> 01:18:07.529
What are you thinking, Mark? This isn't a good news channel.
1275
01:18:07.550 --> 01:18:10.630
What are you trying to do, bro? I know, I know.
1276
01:18:10.649 --> 01:18:14.619
I'm not normally an optimist, but I thought there might
1277
01:18:14.659 --> 01:18:15.560
be something to find there.
1278
01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:16.859
But anyway.
1279
01:18:17.699 --> 01:18:21.239
So as we mentioned earlier, it takes so long for
1280
01:18:21.859 --> 01:18:24.460
many of these revelations to come to the surface. Decades.
1281
01:18:24.659 --> 01:18:27.489
So with this MKUltra stuff and the remote viewing and
1282
01:18:27.510 --> 01:18:29.609
the gate stuff, we're talking about things that happened in
1283
01:18:29.630 --> 01:18:34.050
the 1950s, 60s, 70s. And here we are 50 to
1284
01:18:34.050 --> 01:18:37.270
70 years later discussing this stuff. It seems like that's
1285
01:18:37.310 --> 01:18:41.930
a safe distance to leave between this information and it
1286
01:18:41.949 --> 01:18:45.069
being discussed. So it just makes me wonder, stuff that
1287
01:18:45.229 --> 01:18:47.729
is going on behind the scenes, out of view now
1288
01:18:47.909 --> 01:18:51.050
in the 2020s, we can only understand. imagine the true
1289
01:18:51.090 --> 01:18:53.979
nature of it maybe that's going to get revealed in
1290
01:18:54.020 --> 01:18:56.760
about 50 years and people will be sitting around saying
1291
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:59.479
oh my god look at what they were doing in
1292
01:18:59.479 --> 01:19:02.920
2026 the mind boggles as to what might be going
1293
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.220
on now that we're not going to find out about
1294
01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:06.479
for a few decades right.
1295
01:19:07.630 --> 01:19:09.550
It's really incredible when you think about that. And then
1296
01:19:09.569 --> 01:19:15.229
when you think of the push to digitize everything, And
1297
01:19:15.329 --> 01:19:17.850
what kind of agenda is that? Why do they want
1298
01:19:17.949 --> 01:19:23.270
your entire life on a freaking cell phone? Why do
1299
01:19:23.289 --> 01:19:26.020
they want all of your records to be digitized? Why
1300
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:27.960
do they want everything on the internet? Why do they
1301
01:19:28.020 --> 01:19:32.300
want you? Why does Elon Musk want an X everything app?
1302
01:19:32.779 --> 01:19:36.050
Why is he giving you a freaking credit card now?
1303
01:19:36.850 --> 01:19:40.279
You can literally get an X credit card. on the
1304
01:19:41.319 --> 01:19:44.869
X app through Elon Musk and get an X credit card, okay?
1305
01:19:45.390 --> 01:19:46.789
He wants it to be an everything app. He wants
1306
01:19:46.850 --> 01:19:50.729
it to be an app where your entire life is
1307
01:19:50.930 --> 01:19:54.310
on and you can't operate in society without that app.
1308
01:19:54.840 --> 01:19:58.399
Why do they want a digital ID? A digital ID
1309
01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:02.779
is for tracking and tracing everything that you do, everywhere
1310
01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:06.439
that you go, everything that you buy, anything that you
1311
01:20:06.470 --> 01:20:12.420
look up, your AI chat log, Your search history, your
1312
01:20:12.979 --> 01:20:15.760
comments that you reply to, the people that you react
1313
01:20:15.779 --> 01:20:18.560
to online, the videos that you watch on your phone.
1314
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:25.939
Why is all of that so important for them to do? Well,
1315
01:20:26.039 --> 01:20:32.619
it's important because they can just erase it. If they
1316
01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:37.500
digitize everything within the next 10 years, Mark, and nothing
1317
01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:41.029
is physical anymore... I mean, we've seen, I don't know
1318
01:20:41.069 --> 01:20:42.880
if you're a gamer or if you play games or anything.
1319
01:20:42.909 --> 01:20:44.319
I pay attention to it a little bit. I don't
1320
01:20:44.340 --> 01:20:47.140
play too many games, but I do have an Xbox.
1321
01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:51.760
But PlayStation announced that they're no longer going to be
1322
01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:54.930
doing disc anymore. Physical media has been on the way
1323
01:20:54.979 --> 01:20:57.229
out for a really long time. That's why I got
1324
01:20:57.510 --> 01:21:01.090
physical medias of the movie Psychic Agent because it kind
1325
01:21:01.130 --> 01:21:06.869
of cements you into reality. Like no one can take
1326
01:21:06.949 --> 01:21:09.979
this disc. Away, you know, they can take digital things
1327
01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:12.779
away and that's been something that's been happening for a
1328
01:21:12.779 --> 01:21:15.359
really long time with PlayStation. They've literally just wiped the
1329
01:21:15.430 --> 01:21:19.609
movies that people's paid for off of the PlayStation store. Uh,
1330
01:21:19.670 --> 01:21:23.270
the whole entire movie catalog is just completely gone that
1331
01:21:23.289 --> 01:21:26.090
people have paid for. So there's an agenda out there
1332
01:21:26.149 --> 01:21:28.250
to digitize everything, but no one.
1333
01:21:28.189 --> 01:21:31.109
Has, I've still got cassette tapes here. I've got an
1334
01:21:31.170 --> 01:21:34.409
old school. I'm digitizing some of my cassettes, but I'm
1335
01:21:34.430 --> 01:21:37.210
still going to keep the cassettes. I'm just a master
1336
01:21:37.250 --> 01:21:38.649
of redundant formats here.
1337
01:21:39.909 --> 01:21:43.729
But that's really important because you can't take that away
1338
01:21:43.789 --> 01:21:46.989
from people, but you can take the digital stuff away
1339
01:21:47.710 --> 01:21:50.970
and you can take it away very easily. So if
1340
01:21:51.029 --> 01:21:56.340
we put everything on a digital format, then what happens
1341
01:21:56.460 --> 01:21:59.979
if the internet just, what happens if they reset the internet?
1342
01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:03.579
All this history is just going to be gone. It's
1343
01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:07.130
going to be like, If my entire life was on
1344
01:22:07.149 --> 01:22:10.449
the internet, it's going to be like I didn't even exist, Mark.
1345
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:14.779
That's why I write physical books, actual paper books that
1346
01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:17.619
you can hold in your hand. Very important to keep
1347
01:22:17.659 --> 01:22:18.550
that format alive.
1348
01:22:19.789 --> 01:22:22.029
It is very important. And I don't think people really
1349
01:22:22.229 --> 01:22:28.699
understand the gravity of that type of situation. They can
1350
01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:36.329
literally erase decades and decades and decades of entire history
1351
01:22:37.729 --> 01:22:40.899
by making everything digital. And people are like, oh, well,
1352
01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:42.380
they could go in and they could change the book.
1353
01:22:42.420 --> 01:22:45.300
And I'm not worried. Who cares about that? I don't
1354
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:48.199
want them to erase the entire freaking thing. It's already
1355
01:22:48.260 --> 01:22:50.760
hard enough to go back and try and find articles
1356
01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:54.430
that happened six years ago. Imagine what that's going to
1357
01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:58.369
be like in freaking 10 years. You know, and they're
1358
01:22:58.390 --> 01:23:02.670
no longer backing up the internet. So Google is no
1359
01:23:02.710 --> 01:23:06.510
longer backing up the internet. So like from here on further,
1360
01:23:06.550 --> 01:23:10.970
we're just in like this limbo type of state and
1361
01:23:11.010 --> 01:23:13.810
i think that that's a really important thing because if
1362
01:23:13.850 --> 01:23:15.880
they can just erase the internet and everything that you've
1363
01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:18.399
ever done and anything that you've ever built can just
1364
01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:24.579
completely be wiped and no one will ever know who
1365
01:23:24.619 --> 01:23:26.899
you were or what any kind of contribution that you
1366
01:23:26.939 --> 01:23:27.500
ever made.
1367
01:23:27.319 --> 01:23:32.159
Right okay well we'll start to wrap things up here
1368
01:23:32.199 --> 01:23:36.770
then but where can people watch this documentary film of
1369
01:23:36.789 --> 01:23:40.899
yours psychic agent where is that available and what's next
1370
01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:42.819
for you? Have you got another project on the cards?
1371
01:23:44.340 --> 01:23:47.640
Yes. You can check out psychic agent, the gate program
1372
01:23:47.779 --> 01:23:51.199
on Amazon prime. You can get it in the UK.
1373
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:53.560
You can for sure get it in the United States.
1374
01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:57.670
And if you're interested in a physical copy of psychic agent,
1375
01:23:57.689 --> 01:24:01.329
the gate program, and you live in the United States,
1376
01:24:01.409 --> 01:24:03.569
I can't ship it outside of the United States. I've
1377
01:24:03.590 --> 01:24:07.210
made some exceptions going into Canada and, but even Canada
1378
01:24:07.350 --> 01:24:10.880
is like 20 to $ 30 to ship it just from
1379
01:24:10.899 --> 01:24:14.539
the United States. So I can only ship the people
1380
01:24:14.699 --> 01:24:16.140
that would want a physical copy.
1381
01:24:16.640 --> 01:24:19.020
Isn't that another example of what you were just talking about?
1382
01:24:19.100 --> 01:24:22.880
Because I get requests from people in America and Japan
1383
01:24:22.939 --> 01:24:26.619
and Australia to ship books out there. And I've just
1384
01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:30.020
stopped doing it because first of all, it's too expensive.
1385
01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:34.649
And secondly, it takes too long. And thirdly, these books
1386
01:24:34.689 --> 01:24:37.289
so often get seized by customs. They never actually make
1387
01:24:37.329 --> 01:24:40.649
it through. And it's so troublesome to mail a physical
1388
01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:43.500
book to another nation that I don't do it anymore.
1389
01:24:44.100 --> 01:24:46.060
And that's exactly the way they want things. They want
1390
01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:49.140
you doing everything online. They don't want physical copies, like
1391
01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:51.600
you were saying, of your DVD. So it's another case
1392
01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:52.479
in point there, I feel.
1393
01:24:53.619 --> 01:24:56.520
It is really troubling. I wish it was a lot
1394
01:24:56.560 --> 01:25:00.560
cheaper and I was able to do it. But I mean,
1395
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:07.000
you're talking like, to ship it. Someone tried to order
1396
01:25:07.140 --> 01:25:09.359
one from the UK and I didn't, whenever I first
1397
01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:11.069
got them, I was like, yeah, if you want a
1398
01:25:11.310 --> 01:25:14.750
DVD and someone tried to send me money from the
1399
01:25:14.909 --> 01:25:17.710
UK and I just had to refund the money because
1400
01:25:17.729 --> 01:25:20.390
the shipping was just too expensive. I would actually be
1401
01:25:20.489 --> 01:25:25.079
losing money on the DVD to ship it outside of
1402
01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:28.560
the country. I mean, I have made some exceptions recently
1403
01:25:28.619 --> 01:25:30.020
for Canada, but Canada is.
1404
01:25:29.979 --> 01:25:33.180
Like, part of north america so it's like.
1405
01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:36.020
Not that big of a deal it doesn't take that
1406
01:25:36.100 --> 01:25:40.600
long but uh yeah anywhere overseas or outside of um
1407
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:44.619
canada or the united states it's just they make it
1408
01:25:44.659 --> 01:25:48.130
too difficult and the tariffs and everything and just and
1409
01:25:48.390 --> 01:25:51.789
the the custom because it's even an upcharge to get
1410
01:25:51.829 --> 01:25:55.710
through the custom stuff isn't it i've very rarely shipped
1411
01:25:55.750 --> 01:25:58.149
anything um overseas.
1412
01:25:57.789 --> 01:26:02.189
It's an extortion racket i used to get communications from
1413
01:26:02.329 --> 01:26:05.609
like Australian customs. And they'd say, you've got to pay
1414
01:26:05.670 --> 01:26:08.289
us X amount of fee for us to release the book.
1415
01:26:08.770 --> 01:26:11.960
So they just hold you to ransom there.
1416
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:17.859
Unbelievable. It's really unbelievable how everything has been set up
1417
01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:22.239
to make us to where we can't, you know, make
1418
01:26:22.260 --> 01:26:28.380
a living and get out information. It's wild. But yeah,
1419
01:26:28.399 --> 01:26:32.270
if you would, Amazon Prime, you can watch my documentaries
1420
01:26:32.319 --> 01:26:34.550
that Mark was also in. If you haven't checked that
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out already, you can watch that one, Clockwork Shining on
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Amazon Prime and Psychic Agent, The Gate Program. And if
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you would do me a favor and leave a comment
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rating and a review for amazon if you watch it
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on amazon that really helps out with the algorithms and
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helps amazon push it out and recommend it to other
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people that might be interested and if you're interested in
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following uh some of my other work you can find
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me on writer lee on youtube and any and all
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podcast platforms and any and all social media and i'm
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thinking about doing another cubic film Thinking about doing one
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on Eyes Wide Shut. We didn't get a chance to
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get into Eyes Wide Shut, but Kubrick, you mentioned that
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Kubrick died from a heart attack. And that was six
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days after he had shown that screener to the Warner Brothers.
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And then it was 666 days before 2001 A Space Odyssey. Right.
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Exactly. Matrix coding, you see. Yep.
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Then you've got the Kubrick Counterintelligence MKUltra manual as well,
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which is very similar to Kubrick. They're playing with the names.
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They're playing with the meanings of all this. It's word magic,
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Freemasonic double speak. They tell you one thing when they
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mean something completely different.
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Right. Okay, well, thanks for coming on today, and I'll
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link up with you again in due course, no doubt.
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Thanks so much, Mark. Really appreciate it.
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All right. Cheers.