Still Standing: Keith Coulter’s Story of Faith, Healing & Perseverance

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Hey guys.
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Oh a little early.
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Hey guys, Robert Realis back with another podcast.
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I remembered this time to tell you to like or subscribe.
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I'm telling you that now.
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I know one of our last podcasts we had a lot of subscribers sign up.
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So uh the word is getting out there, literally.
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The word.
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But we're back today.
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We do have a special guest today, and uh per usual, Judge is here.
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She is editor-in-chief, I guess co-host too, since Madison doesn't want to come on here anymore.
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She'll be back.
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You don't have to edit that out either if you don't want to.
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But we have a special guest today, and I'll be honest with you.
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I don't know him.
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So uh yeah.
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This was maybe good.
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Maybe no, it's gonna be good.
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I met him at a small group, at Pat's small group, you and your wife.
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You guys are also going on the cruise.
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Right.
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The Love Like You Meaning cruise in February.
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So we'll definitely get to know each other there, or at least get to eat a lot together there.
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Yeah, and then uh Caleb said something during his sermon about my podcast, and I had a couple people say you have a podcast, and I said yeah, and Keith was one of them.
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And I said, It's funny, Keith, because being brutally honest, the first time I met you at Pat's small group, I thought you were definitely somebody I'd want to have on my podcast.
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So when you came up to me, I was like, in church.
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Like, of course, God.
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Well, it was weird because I was sitting there in church, and you know how the Holy Spirit just like like nud you with something.
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It was like, you need to talk to me about the podcast.
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I'm like, all right.
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And I went over there and you said, We prayed about getting some new people on here.
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I'm like, oh, there you go.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I had somebody waiting after you.
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Yeah, there was another art.
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Who was it?
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Art.
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Art.
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Yeah, art last we said, I need to get on there.
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What I call the man, the myth, the legend.
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Yeah, our roster's filling up.
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Yeah, it really is.
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We got some really awesome people.
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And I'm yeah, I had to wait like a whole week and a half.
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I know, I know.
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You ought to be one of the guys that just got off last Sunday, he has to wait almost two months.
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So uh he wanted to come back for part two, but and that's fine.
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That's you know, that's what we want.
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But it's um, you know, I just listening to you speak and kind of getting a little bit of your story, and I'm not gonna steal any thunder from you.
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Um, I thought that uh I thought definitely be worth having you on here and and talk.
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So welcome, Keith.
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Glad to be here.
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Yeah, and so Keith said, What do we talk about?
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I said, I don't know.
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We'll just start talking about leaving and your word and you know, about you where you came from, maybe your you know how you grew up, but you may have had it or something in your head already rehearsed.
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So even if you don't, even better.
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So let's learn about Keith.
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So my dad grew up where on the farm that we live on now.
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We have a farm that's like I guess it came to be in like the 1830s, and there's always been a family on there on that family on that farm at one time or another.
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Um, we might have been off of it for a few years, but my great-great-great-grandfather lived there.
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So it's been kind of passed down.
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And uh my dad graduated from uh Macon High School, I think, in 1958, and then he met my mother in Jeff City.
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I was born in Jeff City, but shortly after that we moved to Kansas City.
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So I was kind of a red night born.
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I mean, I lived in the city, but I didn't I always loved it up here because this my dad's idea of vacation was to come up and work on the farm.
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I can give up, yeah.
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Cut fence posts and put fences in.
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Yeah.
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Then he'd give us like one day and um six flights or something like that, you know.
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Then we go back and work and cut a brush.
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Yeah.
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Yes, but yeah, but I always loved that kind of work.
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I mean, I can't say I always like cut and brush, but right.
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I like to hunt and that kind of stuff.
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So that farm was always a place that I was kind of near and dear to.
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Yeah, I grew up in Kansas City.
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My dad worked for basically ATT, it was Western Electric back then.
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Yeah.
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And I grew up in the well, we lived in Grand Fear for a while.
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That's kind of South Kansas City, and then we moved to a little little tiny suburb that had like 300 people in it, like Greenwood, but it was just kind of attached to Lee Summit.
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And I ended up going to school there, and I graduated from Lee Summit High School in 1977.
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So I know this probab that wasn't like you know the nuts and bolts of your story, but when when people know all this stuff about their past, is this something that you asked somebody about, or did you just know?
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It's just curiosity, because I'm always like like what you just told me, like your story from mom and dad, and moved here and we did this and we did that.
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Yeah, I think the legacy of just knowing where you came from and how that all happened.
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I mean, I I I just think about things, maybe other people don't do this, but I was I cut wood and burn firewood in my house.
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And I don't have to do that, but I'm kind of a tightwalk, so and I need to exercise, so I do that.
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Yeah.
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But I started thinking, like, I have a at my house, I have a wood-burning stove that's in the basement that my duck works up to, but I also have a propane furnace that if I leave, I don't have to have somebody stoke it with wood or anything, but and air conditioning.
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But I was cutting wood one day and it it always overwhelming.
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I thought everybody from the 1830s has been cutting wood off this place to heat their houses.
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And I'm like, I'm still, I'm still doing that, and here we are in the 2000s.
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Yeah.
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But that's a good thing.
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It is.
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I mean, I enjoy it.
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It is, yeah.
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Yeah, it's uh uh it's a sport.
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It's it's heavenly we actually have a book.
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I think that's one reason I've kind of followed the legacy of my family.
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It was an old Sears and Robuck catalog.
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In those days, it was a thick cardboard pages.
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It looks like a photo album.
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But people took you know what Sears and Robuck is?
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Do you?
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No.
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Okay.
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No, sir.
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Yeah, that's go ahead.
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Sorry.
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Yeah.
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Old, aren't we?
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Yeah.
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I am.
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I know exactly what you're talking about.
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So but these were in the old days, they didn't have the, you know, when I was a kid, you get a you get a uh Sears and Robuck and you'd look through there and see what toys you wanted for Christmas.
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And I found out at my grandparents' house, the ones that live in Jeff City, they had an outhouse, and you put the Sears and uh Robot catalog out there, and I always asked my mom, like, why do the color pages not even get used?
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Like, you know, yeah, the soft ones.
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Or the black and white.
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I knew where you were going with that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's a different kind of different things.
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Yeah.
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Do you know what outhouse is?
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I didn't know what that is, because I watched Shrek as a kid.
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Whatever worked.
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Yeah, my my mom's mom and dad lived in Jeff City, and they didn't.
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I remember going there, and my mom would heat up a thing of water and pour it in a tub, and that's how I took a bath outside.
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I don't go back that far, but it's right, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Hot water is a commodity.
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They had a pump on their sink.
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Yeah.
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They pump up water and eat it on the stove.
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I mean, just the way it was.
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I mean, we didn't, I never lived that way.
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I mean, but yeah.
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But it was kind of cool to go to their house because it was all different like that.
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Yeah, that's what my great-grandmother's house was.
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She had a well, and then she also had it inside that you could pump water.
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And she would use that well water all the time.
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Yeah, there was a pump right in the sink.
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Like you pumped it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I know exactly what you're talking about.
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Well, my dad says that uh his mom cooked off a cook stove.
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Like he can remember when they brought electricity to the house.
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Well, we don't the house we live in now was built like in the late 70s.
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I mean, it's still old, but the house that was originally was built in the 1800s, and that's the one he grew up in.
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Wow.
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They had a wood stove, and that's how they could keep the house.
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We need to come out there and metal detect that place.
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Off subject.
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That would be so fun.
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I got a couple metal detectors.
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I went through that phase for a little bit, metal detecting.
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I went to some old places and found.
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I really wanted to do it on a beach.
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Because you know how much stuff people lose.
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They make it look easy, though.
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It's it's what's yes, they do make it look easy.
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It's a sport as well.
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Uh just listening to you say that you know the house used to be out there in 18 times.
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I'm like my nerd metal detecting self was going off.
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So okay, I'm kind of a nerd about history, but like when my great-great-great-grandfather moved here, he was like 16.
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His name was Sterling.
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He stayed here.
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They cleared him and his dad cleared the land.
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He stayed there, got along with the Indians that were Indians that were in this area up there then.
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And, you know, that's that's like 30 years before the Civil War, but there still were Indians and things like that.
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Yeah.
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And they cleared land and planted crops, and he was 16.
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He stayed here while his parents uh went back and got everybody else.
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And I know there's one story that's in this book I was telling you about where they pasted all the newspaper articles, and it talks about how they had so many geese.
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I don't know, a couple hundred geese they drove from wherever they lived.
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They drove down there and didn't lose a one.
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They were really proud of it.
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Oh wow.
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But yeah, it's crazy.
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And we found a lot of our just effects there, even on our land.
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We found uh, I don't have it anymore.
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My my uncle had it, but it was a tomahawk head.
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It was granite that was I mean, it was round on one end, so you can paint with it, like beat grain with it, and then the other end was sharp as could be, and it had the the cutouts for the wooden stake that went around it.
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Wow, that's awesome.
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Well, yeah, I was gonna say you can find arrowheads, but that sounds like the ultimate arrowhead.
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Well, and I live like I live north of here, just north of Jacksonville, right where the county line is.
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There's Randolph County and it would be Macon County, and I live like right on the line.
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I'm like I can go out the back door and 20 feet I'm into Macon County.
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Oh, really?
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The other way I'm in the country.
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That's literally, yeah, on the line.
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Well, the history is cool about Keith, and we can dig into that more, but I want to know a little bit about Keith and God and where he plays a factor at.
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I'm gonna go back a little bit.
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My parents, I think my mom and my mom went to church, but she had like eight brothers and sisters, they were pretty, pretty poor.
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And here's an interesting fact my mom was a culter, C-O-L-T-E-R, before she married my dad, C-O-U-L-T-E-R.
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Wow.
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So I've got a lot of culture relatives.
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And no, my family tree does not look like a telephone pole.
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No.
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It's like no.
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No, that's like two different families.
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But yeah, but like, you know, when we go to grandpa culters, I'm not sure where we're going, but I had different names for them.
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Well, see, I I speaking of last names, I've you know heard in in history that a lot of times last names can get changed throughout time.
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So that's what I thought you were gonna say, but you're just saying literally they just was a C O L.
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Yeah, they grew up in Jeff City in that area.
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My dad grew up here.
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Yeah.
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My uh my grandfather had quit farming, moved down, lived in Holt Summit, which is just outside Jeff City there, and he started working for the prison system, became a guard there, and went down there and worked because he knew they were building Mowberly back then and he was gonna move back up here so he could be up close to his farm.
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So build Mowberly.
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Or well, the the prison, kind of.
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Oh, I was gonna say, yeah, wow, going back.
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I don't even know when Mowberly was here, but so big family, poor so kind of went to church?
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My mom did.
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My dad, they never went to church, never did anything.
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Good try, devil.
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Part two, take two here of us talking to Keith.
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He was getting ready to start talking about uh mom and dad and how mom went and dad didn't.
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Yeah, so what I was gonna say was it's funny when you look back, it's so easy when you look back on things sometimes, how things are a little more 20-20, you know, after you've been through it.
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And I think about in the neighborhood that my dad grew up in, there was a I think I told you I might have told you the story or not, but there was a mentally handicapped boy that was born to some parents.
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His parents died, and my grandfather took him in instead of put him in a state hospital.
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And he he never really developed over his name's Charles, he never really developed over a 10 or 12-year-old mine, but he could work around the farm and do some things.
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And my grandfather, instead of putting him in in an institution, they kept him at the farm, and he worked and helped us work the milk cows and crops and everything else.
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Well, my dad tells a story that he was about eight years old and he crawled into a corn crib, and back then they put the corn on the cobs and let it dry, and they put it in a bin, and then they just pull it out and grind it and give it to the cows or hogs or whatever they're feeding.
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And he said that was his one of his play rays.
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There was a little box of door open.
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He'd crawl in there while he hollowed it out, kept hollowing it out.
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He didn't realize the danger.
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He got in there and hollowed it out, and it all collapsed on him.
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I mean, it's 20 feet tall.
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Collapsed, and he said, I every time I took a breath, I could feel that push me down.
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And he said the lights were going out.
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And Charles came around the corner, grabbed him by the legs, and pulled him out of there and saved him.
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And uh you think, well, that's not that big a deal.
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But then you start thinking, like, that changed the whole legacy of like my sister, myself, I have two sisters, my dad, you know, my sons, my children.
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It affected 25 people, probably.
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That's crazy.
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You know, more than that, probably 30.
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But it's funny how the Lord's looking out for things even before things turn around, maybe.
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A hundred percent.
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But my grandmother got sick and they had moved to Old Summit.
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They'd give up farming and went down there.
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She got uh cancer.
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She was 48 when she died.
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She yeah, and my dad said I was like 21, and I thought that was really old.
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It's until I got older and I realized I really wasn't that old.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I remember those days.
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Yeah.
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And I had an aunt that was in the family, and I'm I think I told you the story too, but she was one of those hardiers.
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She was kind of like Paul.
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You know how Paul was one direction when he was not helping Christ and he went the other direction.
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She was that way.
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She was a wild gal that got saved, filled with the Holy Spirit, just she became the holy ruler of the family.
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She kind of had a reputation.
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But when she found out my grandmother was sick, she came back and let her to the Lord and made sure she was ready for eternity.
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Well, my grandmother wrote a letter to her two sons, which one was my dad, and that kind of impacted him, and we started going to church, and I was I was pretty young, and it took a while for that to take, but I was probably eight years old when I gave my heart to the Lord.
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I was eight when we first went to church, and went to a little tiny church, didn't have probably 10 or 15, maybe 20 people going to it.
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But I felt that call on my heart, and I think I always, I mean, even before I really went to church, I always sensed there was something bigger than me.
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I don't know, it's just I don't know if it's just that void that's in your heart, maybe.
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I didn't feel a void then, but I just knew there was something bigger or being control of things.
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I kind of just always had that feeling.
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But gave my heart to the Lord when I was eight.
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Of course I did that like three Sundays in a row because I was a sinful kid, you know.
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You know how kids are.
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Then I, you know, had that conversation with like, there's some grace here.
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But yeah, that's when my journey started, and I say it went pretty good up until I was about probably 14.
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And at that point, I didn't have a youth group anymore.
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I kind of had a little youth group.
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And I remember being in eighth grade.
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I can remember just I think I got tired of the battle.
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I didn't really want to be bad.
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I just I didn't have anybody to really support me or people my age that were into that.
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And my parents, we were like a Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night type of thing.
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I took a lot of views from baseball coaches and things like that for being gone days.
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But that never really bothered me.
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It just it just was what the way it was.
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But I remember I was about eighth grade and I just went, I'm tired of this fight.
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And I just let it go.
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I just I just kind of walked away from things.
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And uh, there's a lot of changes that are happening in a young man when he's 13, 15 years old.
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And I just I kind of stayed that way, started riding motorcycles, ended up racing motorcycles later on uh when I was older.
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I was one of those kids we were kind of poor when I was younger, and I decided that I didn't want to just talk about things, I wanted to do things.
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And I can't say we were poor, I mean we always had food.
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We always had close, but like not a lot of anything.
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You know, my dad always made just enough.
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You know, God provided for him, and he believed that, and he's still that way.
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But I remember thinking, I don't want to talk about things, I want to do things.
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So when I was in high school, my dad and I took a ground school for flying airplanes, and I got that FA test out of the way.
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And then I ended up working at an airport that last year as a senior, and I ended up I actually soloed like in nine hours and started flying airplanes all that summer.
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So wow that sounds so fun.
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Yeah.
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So I did that.
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Not me.
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I don't like heights.
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Oh me, I'm gonna do it.
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I don't like heights.
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I like flying an airplane though, but then I'm That's different.
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It is, but then you start talking about the planes, you're talking, I just I don't know, I'm getting cooped up again, I'm getting a little claustrophobic, so I don't know.
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I actually at one point I actually went skydiving once, which is once you're so bad.
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That's literally on my bucket list.
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I want to go to Hawaii and go skydiving.
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That's all I want to do.
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I jumped out with a static line and it pulled before me and I popped out and I found out how hard you hit the ground and decided not to do that anymore.
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No, no, we're not jumping out of a perfectly good airplane.
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I remember that's what hit me because I I was flying by then solo and flying my own plane.
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Yeah.
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And when I jumped out of there, I thought, hold on here.
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There's nothing.
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Jumping out of it.
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This seems crazy.
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But I thought, well, you've put yourself here and you need to do it.
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Yeah.
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And I did it.
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That was enough.
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Yeah.
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I think I did it two times maybe.
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Yeah.
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I don't remember.
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But yeah, that I still don't like heights.
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I do not like heights.
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And I did construction work and I had to do a lot of high work, but yeah.
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I was usually tied off, so that didn't bother me so much.
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But yeah, my kids really get a big kick out of me.
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Like, I remember we walked across the Royal Gorge and like they were just laughing and teasing me.
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I remember my son, he found out about my heights thing.
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He never really knew about it.
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We were in a uh lighthouse down in Florida.
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We went all the way up in that thing, and it had a rail, it was just high enough to trip you so you'd fall over the edge of it.
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And he's kind of pushing me, and I'm like, dude, don't play with me.
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If you push me again, I'm gonna hurt you.
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My wife goes, No, he's serious.
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Yeah, he's really serious.
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It's gonna hurt you.
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But I but you know what the weird thing is, I'd love to bow hunt and I climb the trees all the time, but I'm always tied off.
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I'm tied off from the time I go up to the time I go down.
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I didn't always do that, but I am these days.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I don't like really high heights, but I've taken repelling courses and I've repelled frontways, sideways, frontways, you know.
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As long as I'm tied off, it doesn't bother me.
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But like get up in a big open area that's open freaks me out.
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It just makes my legs like I can be watching television and see somebody run up to the edge of a building and look over the edge and my legs feel like yellow, yeah, and just like instantly.
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Yeah, same.
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And I'm like, I know I'm not gonna fall, and it's it seems unreasonable to me.
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I've even tried to get over it by going and doing those things, but it doesn't really get better.
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No.
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Now, when I bow hunt, it doesn't bother me.
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Yeah, and I'm usually 20 feet up in here, but I'm always tied off, so I guess I have this feeling like I'm not gonna get hurt.
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Yeah.
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Let's go, let's go back to when you're eight, because I I was the question I had is you're baptized when you're eight, you said multiple times, but how do you think a kid, an eight-year-old kid, does that really stick and do they grow into that at eight years old?
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Do you think that's possible, or is that something you revisit?
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I I ask because that's exactly what I did.
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I got baptized when I was younger because everybody was doing it, right?
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And that was kind of and I I I think I I remember it and I understood the purpose.
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And then I got you know, re-baptized again at FLF, you know, 20 some years later.
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So my question to you with your wisdom.
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I think you grow into it, you have the amount of wisdom you have at that age.
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But I knew this.
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I knew I was a sinner and I wanted to save me.
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So you knew that.
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Yes, I knew that.
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And and there was no doubt about that.
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And then I realized, wow, living a perfect life is hard.
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You know?
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Talk about it all the time.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You lived the rest of your life figuring that, you know, basically.
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But I actually got baptized, I don't know, it was a year or two later, probably, in a trailer court lake.
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Oh wow.
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They pulled a Winnebago down there, like three or four of us went down there and jumped in the water.
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And then I remember I had uh little league football pictures that afternoon.
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I don't know why I remember that, but actually, um, I got baptized again, but it was mostly because we went to Israel and a pastor friend that we went with, I got baptized in Jordan River.
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Oh yeah, yeah.
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Baptized me again.
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Yeah, baptize me again there anytime.
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Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I remember telling my wife, I said, Man, I had a weird thing happen.
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I was kind of jaffing with her.
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I said, Man, those voices spoke in my head and said, This is my sheet metal marker that I'm proud of.
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I said, I heard that voice when I came out of the water.
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She goes, really?
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Yes, no, I just made that up.
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Good story, though.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, actually, that was a very scenic place where we got in there, and uh it was kind of a not a bluish green like algae, but it was like a almost like a lime pit will have a bluish color to it.
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Beautiful.
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I didn't there were fish nibbling on my legs, and there were mallard ducks swimming in there, and I'm like, I never pictured that when Jesus got baptized, you know, about mallard ducks swimming around in there, but right.
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Well, now that you say that, like I can 100% see it now.
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Yeah, it's part of the family.
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Yeah, part of the family.
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Well, I have a question for you.
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Okay.
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Was there a specific moment for you in your lifetime?
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And it doesn't have to be like necessarily towards the beginning of your walk with Jesus, but has there been a time in your life where you're like, oh yeah, like God is for sure there, God was protecting me in this moment, like I feel him or hear him in some sort of aspect?
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Has there ever been that kind of ooh moment for you?
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I have worn out several guardian angels, I'm sure, in my life.
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I mean several.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah.
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Honestly, I I remember this was not so much a guardian angel thing, but I remember the Holy Spirit speaking to me very clearly one day.
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I was getting into reading scripture, and I've read my Bible, but I wasn't really serious about it.
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But I was I was in my mid-20s and I was really starting to kind of get into it, and I read about the Israelites, and uh I thought, man, those people so had it.
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They just all they had to do was follow God.
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I was like, they did not get it.
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Like they get to the next thing, like, where's our water?
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Where's our food?
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Yeah, and they, you know, and he'd kind of get irritated, and then the ground might open up and swallow some of them, and then he'd give them water or whatever, you know?
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Yeah.
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And I was like, they did not get it.
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And I was out in my garage, I just read this section of the Bible and I was kind of just mulling over.
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And I'm out in the garage and working, because I I love to build things and fab things.
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I walk out there and I'm working something, and I went, they just did not get it.
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And I can remember clearly the Holy Spirit said, How are you any different?
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And I was like, I just it hit me like a ton of brims.
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I was like, I'm not any different than they are.
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I'm like, I'm I I just go from one crisis to the next.
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Oh God, please help me on this next one, you know.
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Yeah.
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And we're not any different.
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We're not.
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We're not any different.
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And it just was humbling.
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I mean, but in a good way.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, it's I call us imperfect Christians.
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Yeah.
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And that's that's the one thing that I've learned over the last five or ten years is is that you know we're supposed to wear this particular hat and act this particular way and speak this particular way and treat people a particular way and not get mad and have patience and kindness and you know, all the virtues that we're supposed to have.
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I had a lot more of that than I Used to.
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Yeah.
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I don't have near enough.
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No.
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No.
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I don't think you ever do.
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I'll explain that more in a little bit.
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But yeah, you talk about one particular incident.
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One that really sticks in my mind is I told you that I like to bow hunt.
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And to me, just being up in a tree and hunting wasn't good enough.
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So a friend and I we started videoing, and then we actually started working for a company, American Outdoors, and we would video hunts.
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So we video each other or other people.
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And I remember this goes back, but I had a time where I spent a bunch of time in the hospital in my 30s.
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And I was very like, I should have died a couple of times in there.
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I'm we might not get into that, but God healed me and brought me through it.
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God can take months to heal you, or you can go and do that.
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Yeah, that's right.
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God I've been the receptor of both of those.
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But at this point, I'd been out of the hospital.
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I'd been in the hospital like four months.
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This was I got out like in June, and this was in October.
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And back in those days, we didn't have all the tree stands and stuff like we've got now.
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But we had we didn't even have screw and steps.
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We had tree gaffs that we wore to climb trees.
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And I climbed a tree up and got in a tree stand.
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Nobody steals your stands that way either in the city.
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And then you have tree gaffes, but climbed up there and had to stay up there.
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I was videoing and we it was so dark when the deer finally left.
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We didn't want to spook them off.
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I dropped the camera down on a rope and I started down off the tree.
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And the always the crucial part is you gotta keep your legs, your butt out, and you always any tree everyone climb with climbers, do it with one that you can bear hug.
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Always don't get on a big tree.
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Oh wow.
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That's just a rule of thumb.
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And this was the right size, it was about this big.
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Yeah.
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So I started down that and I was on what they call a shag bark hickory, and I had the the pieces of hickory bark that kind of hang off of it.
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And one of my gas got stuck in it, I pulled it out, it pulled the other one out, and it went off the back of the tree.
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We always stuck the stands about 22, 23 feet high, and I was like head high with it.
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So Yeah, so you were up.
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So when I went off, I mean I started like rolling the windows up, and I thought, here's what's thought that went to my mind.
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This is gonna hurt.
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Because I've had some motorcycle crashes where like you get the wind knocked out of you and you lay there and you just go, give me a second.
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Yeah.
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Get all the air back in my lungs.
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All this air and your lungs, yeah, you can't breathe.
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Yeah, you think that's over.
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Yeah, I thought this is gonna be terrible.
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Because and I remembered there was lots of limbs sticking up in there.
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I fell and I had the most bizarre thing happen.
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It's like someone caught me and laid me on the ground.
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Felt no pain at all.
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And a buddy of mine ran over, he goes, Oh, you're all right, you just fell out of that tree and land on your back.
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I'm like, I know.
00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:39.519
And I I felt it like I felt it, and I felt my back almost go like it felt good when they caught me.
00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:48.400
And I mean, how do you how do you it's hard to handle because you go, what just happened?
00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:48.880
Right.
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:50.000
What just happened?
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:50.640
That's cool.
00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:52.559
Because I know I don't even know what to say.
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:59.599
I've fallen out of things before and got hurt before, and I and thought I was gonna die, but that really could have killed me.
00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:00.480
Yeah, absolutely.
00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:07.440
So I think it just got spinned protecting me and might be here for today or whatever I was supposed to be.
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:08.240
Whatever it was.
00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:08.400
Yeah.
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:10.319
So that you recognize it.
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:10.799
Yeah.
00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:18.000
Yeah, you're probably just sitting there going either I've lost all feeling or something's getting ready to start hurting here in a minute.
00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:20.160
Well, I just thought something caught me.
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:21.839
Like, you know, it just-that's what it felt like.
00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:22.319
That's what it was.
00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:23.680
Like what and then it was done.
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:25.119
That's like crazy.
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:26.240
God can do anything.
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:28.000
Literally anything is possible with God.
00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:30.319
Your human mind tries to explain it away.
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:32.720
Because you're You can't.
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:33.839
But you can't sometimes.
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:34.400
You can't.
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:35.519
Sometimes you just can't.
00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:37.759
And that's one of those instances where you just can't.
00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:39.599
I had that happen one other time.
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:43.039
Well, let me go back and talk about my experience in the hospital.
00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:49.599
Um, I felt like I was serving the Lord, doing things, but when I was about it would have been 1992, I'd have been 33 years old.
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:51.119
I started having these pains.
00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:53.119
It felt like somebody was shoving a spear through me.
00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:56.720
And I'd go to the doctor and then I have them, then I wouldn't have them, then I'd have them, then I wouldn't have them.
00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:59.440
And what it was, I was passing gallstones and didn't know it.
00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:02.559
And it my it's much like a kidney stone.
00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:04.640
If you ever had a kidney stone, it you know.
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:08.480
I mean, you can be sitting here one minute and just go, and I mean you'll break out in a sweat, it hurts so bad.
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:13.279
And you're just like, oh, if somebody told you lay on your back and rock, it'll make you feel better, you do it.
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:14.799
Because it just hurts so bad.
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.359
And I had that off and on for probably six, eight months.
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:22.640
Then finally, one Monday morning, like February 18th, I had one and it would not go away.
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:27.599
My wife took me to the hospital, and I went in there February 18th and I didn't get out to the first of June.
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:36.000
I got pancreatitis, which is basically what happened is a stone lodged in that common bile duct between your pancreas and your gallbladder.
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:51.039
And then the fluid starts backing up, then it'll issue into your body cavity, out of your that's called your endocron system that works to so I went in there on a Monday and I didn't realize it, but those fluids were issuing down into my body, and it was starting to shut my lungs down.
00:26:51.279 --> 00:27:03.680
It was starting to shut other organs down, but the lungs were the big thing, so they uh innovated me while I was conscious because they didn't think they'd be able to revive me if they put me out because my my oxygen level just kept dropping your O2 level.
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:04.799
That was terrible.
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.000
So, yeah, getting innovated while you're conscious is terrible.
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:11.039
It's like five guys holding you down around a garden host down your throat.
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:12.079
Oh my goodness.
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:13.519
Well, I'll tell you how bad it was.
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.480
When they gave me the catheter, I thought, no big deal.
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:18.240
That wasn't near as dramatic.
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.319
It was painful, but it wasn't near as dramatic as the other.
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:27.200
And basically that Friday night, they told my wife they said, He odds up, he's not gonna be alive in the morning.
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:30.480
But I had a lot of people praying for him, and I made it that next day.
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:34.319
I was alive, and they said, Well, you're gonna be on a ventilator for two or three weeks.
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:37.359
I was on it for five days, and then they took me off of it.
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:41.920
But um I spent basically I in ICU that whole time.
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:45.119
They didn't have room in the ICU, so they made an ICU up in the room that I was in.
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:50.640
What I found out is after I got off the ventilator, uh, they started feeding me food, and I was like, man, I don't I just don't feel right.
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:51.759
Like there's something.
00:27:51.920 --> 00:28:06.559
Well, what had happened is all those fluids that had been attacking my system started collecting at a pseudo-cyst, and they said, Well, we need to cut and operate that, but we need to let it set there for like six weeks before it gets big enough to where you can cut suture on the skin, it's thick enough.
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:10.000
So for six weeks I laid in there and I was just vomiting sick.
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:12.400
Like, yeah, that's terrible.
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:19.440
If you've ever you know how you feel when you're sick and just throw up and you think you just live for the moment, you go, I know this is gonna be better.
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:24.880
And six weeks of that, I remember telling my sons that, and they were like, How did you do that?
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:27.920
You must be tough, and I'm like, Yeah, there is no tough to it, man.
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:28.640
You just didn't do it.
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:38.880
I remember one day I have a godly woman that I married, and she loves me and she's good to me, but and she doesn't have a mean bone in her body.
00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:40.720
She didn't know how to know how to be mean.
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:44.799
I I always said any mean thing she ever learned was from me or my sons.
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.359
Not she's not that way.
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:47.680
Yeah.
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:47.920
Yeah.
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:53.039
She told me she I got like one whipping growing up, and I'm like, well, I made up for that.
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:57.039
What's the setting opposite the tract?
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:57.359
Yeah.
00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:02.079
We were talking about that this morning how we were so opposite each other, but such a perfect fit.
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:08.799
Well, in my younger day, I started cycling, riding bicycles, and I became like a kind of a long-distance cycler.
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:16.640
And I would ride several times I rode over 100 miles, but I rode uh from my parents' house, they hadn't moved back to the farm yet, down to Jeff City in a day.
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:18.240
It was like 122 miles.
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.599
And I did that in like nine hours and 45 minutes or something like that.
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:26.640
But I was a long distance person and had I'd learned it from my dad, and it's basically you don't quit.
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:27.680
You're just not a quitter.
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:30.559
I'd always preach that to my wife, preach that to my son.
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:31.759
I tried to live that.
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:36.319
And I remember she walked in the room one day when I was doing all that vomiting, and I was just sick.
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:39.359
And she rolled in there and she'd come in and sit every day with me.
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:41.599
She'd go home at night, come in and sit with me every day.
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:43.519
And uh it was before it had surgery or anything.
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:52.480
And she came in one day and I was like, and I always felt like I was pretty strong in my own spirit, but I think that's one of the reasons I went through it because God just showed me how He could break me down.
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:54.079
He did, He broke me down.
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.440
Yeah, and I told her, I said, Man, I'm just great irrelevant die here.
00:29:58.319 --> 00:29:59.119
I feel terrible.
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:05.200
And I remember she said the one thing that probably I didn't expect her to say, but it just lit a fire in me.
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:07.359
She goes, Well, great, I married a quitter.
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:09.359
And I'm like, oh, she just said that.
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:10.880
She just said that.
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.079
And I was like, Yeah, no.
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.759
I said, I didn't say one quit, I said I felt like quitting.
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:18.799
That's what I told her.
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:19.680
Yeah.
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:20.960
I had to clarify myself.
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:22.240
Yeah, I needed to hear that.
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:24.000
She she knew exactly what I needed to hear.
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:25.839
Like the whole spirit just nudged her.
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.200
Yeah, nudged her.
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:28.480
And she hammered me.
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:28.880
Yeah.
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:30.960
But I needed that at that point.
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:36.559
So fast forward, the cyst gets like eight pounds, like it starts doing damage to me that I still have today.
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:41.839
I mean, I have a lot of things wrong with me, but I still seem to be able to do everything I want to do.
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:43.759
But that cyst got like eight pounds.
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:51.599
And they what they finally did when they deserted it, they cut me open, they went in there, they drained it, then they stitched to my stomach, and my body basically absorbed that pseudo-cyst.
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.880
But I had to lay in there another six or seven weeks.
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:56.480
I think before that, I got out.
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:01.680
And I I lost like I went from about two hundred and fifty pounds to 190 pounds.
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:02.240
Wow.
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.480
Yeah, I was I looked like a stick man.
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:06.720
My my weight charts says I should weigh 190.
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:07.920
I said, I should never weigh one ninety.
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:09.119
Yeah, mine is too.
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:10.799
I'm like, yeah.
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:20.559
Anyway, I got out of the hospital in June, first of June, and they told me they said, Well, it'll beat you before you go back to work at Humboldt Fake, it's not gonna pee here before I go back to work.
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:22.240
And I did go back to work in August.
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.400
I was working in the office, just detailing.
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:25.680
I was a sheet metal worker.
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:27.200
That's what I did for a living.
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:32.319
And uh I was running work from the office and drawing and detailing, and so I was able to do that.
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.640
I couldn't probably work in the field, but I could do that.
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:36.240
And uh so I went back to work.
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:43.359
But actually, six weeks after I got out of hospital, I worked with a bunch of boys in an organization called Royal Rangers.
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:47.519
It was like Boy Scouts only at church, and we ministered to the boys and stuff.
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:48.559
That's awesome.
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:55.599
And they were going on a boundary water trip into Minnesota, and this I made a dozen excuses why I couldn't go.
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:57.119
It was basically I was broke.
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:10.559
I mean, there's another thing how God like I didn't work this whole time and I was getting like a hundred dollars a week, and I'm used to making eight or nine hundred dollars, and they my wife worked for sprint then, and they just her boss just said, Don't come in, we got you covered.
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:12.880
For three months, she didn't go to work, and I paid her.
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.119
Wow, that's how we got through, basically.
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:15.599
Wow.
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.960
I mean it I can say it was tight, but we made it through.
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:19.279
Oh yeah.
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:20.319
God blessed us.
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:22.880
But anyway, I went on this boundary waters trip.
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.920
Like I was just getting where I could walk about a mile.
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:27.359
I was just eating solid food.
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:31.359
I mean it took a long time because I I didn't tell you this story back up.
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:36.720
When I when they found out that I had the cyst, they put me on a bag of IV that they'd feed me with.
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.640
So I didn't eat for that six weeks.
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.119
And then trying to eat again, it was difficult.
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:42.319
I bet it was yeah, yeah.
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:47.759
I mean the doctor would come in every week and goes, Maybe you can go home next week when you start eating better.
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.880
And I th I'd live for a week thinking I'm gonna take a home.
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:51.119
Yeah.
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:51.839
And I wouldn't.
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.000
And week after week after week that happened.
00:32:54.160 --> 00:33:01.440
I finally at one point, and I had another thing that I kind of got to run into, and that was they had me on steroids to help me to heal.
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:05.680
Well, the doctor came in one day and said, Do you want to see a priest or a pastor or something?
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:06.720
I said, before.
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.599
And he said, Well, we're gonna take you off steroids and you're gonna crash mentally.
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:10.880
And I'm like, whatever.
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:12.720
I'm not that, I'm not that person.
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:13.039
Yeah.
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:14.079
I'm not that one.
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:16.079
It was bad.
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:16.480
Bad.
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:23.680
I mean, when you lay in a fetal position in a bed and cry and don't even know why you're doing it, yeah.
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:25.440
I I couldn't even relate to that.
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:30.160
And I think the Lord took me through that to let me understand what depression was really like.
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.799
When somebody tells me they're depressed or they're having a difficult time, I can so relate to that.
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:35.039
Yeah.
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:35.359
Yeah.
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:40.640
But I had to work through a lot of that stuff and get to where I was eating again, and it just took a while.
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:44.640
But I I ended up going on this trip with the boys up there, and I gotta say, it stretched me.
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:48.000
I told my wife, I said it's either gonna kill me or it's gonna make me stronger.
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:48.240
Yeah.
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:51.200
And it made me stronger, but boy, I was still, I've got pictures of me.
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:52.480
I'm so skinny up there.
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:57.279
But I had I didn't even I took my flotation device and just sat on it because I had no meat on my bone.
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:02.079
I felt like I was sitting on two knuckles in that boat, you know, because I had no meat on it.
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:04.480
And I was always my legs were always my strongest thing.
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:06.240
I was like, mm, yeah, it wasn't good.
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:14.239
I remember the first day we we went through the lake and we did like two portages, two like 90 ride partages, and then stopped, and it was about eight o'clock that night.
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.239
I slept to like two o'clock the next day.
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:17.280
I was so worn out.
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.880
Oh yeah, and we paddled like to the horizon twice.
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.519
You know, like but it was a good thing.
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:26.719
I mean, it kind of built me back up, and and I crave adventure.
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:27.840
I've always been that way.
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:34.079
Probably that's why I mean flew planes, that's why I skydive race motorcycles.
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.400
Like, I just craved adventure like that.
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:38.159
I mean, that's probably why I like that boat woman.
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:48.559
I just craved that adventure, but anyway, so my life kind of gets better for five years, and what they what they ended up doing was drain the cyst, they took my gallbladder out.
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:53.679
At one point, I remember after surgery, they were gonna let me walk one day, and I was like, I'm so ready to walk.
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:54.800
And they got me all ready.
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:59.440
I had like three IMED pumps like stuff pumping in me because I had an eye infection this whole time.
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.159
Or I had a high like 102 fever for months.
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:03.360
I had three of them over here.
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:12.400
I had all these NG tubes in here, I had an NG tube down my throat, or JP tubes here, just all kinds of stuff, oxygen, and just to get me to walk, it was terrible.
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.679
And I remember I thought, I'm ready to walk, I'm ready to get out of this place.
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.239
I got up, I walked to the door and walked back, and I fell back in my bed and I thought, I'm a mess.
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:22.719
I'm going back to bed.
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:26.400
And I remember I got an attitude adjustment about two days after that.
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:29.280
They came in, and I was like, I was mad and I really didn't want to walk.
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.519
I was just tired of all the stuff and not feeling good.
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:36.480
And I was sitting there, and the therapist says, Well, I'm gonna sit here and do some work if you don't want to do your walking.
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:37.440
I'm like, okay.
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.719
And I was sitting there on the edge of the bed and I see this guy, nobody's helping him.
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.840
His leg's cut off, he's in crutches, and he's rolling his pillow.
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.199
He's rolling his pole, walking crutches, and I was like, nobody's even helping him.
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:48.559
And I've got three people helping me.
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:51.760
I'm like, okay, attitude adjustment accepted.
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:53.280
I said, Okay, I do want to walk.
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:54.239
I need to get up and walk.
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:58.559
And I it was just one of those things the Lord showed me that it's not as bad as you think it is.
00:35:58.960 --> 00:35:59.599
Yeah.
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:01.920
And so I ended up getting out of the hospital.
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:04.000
Well, five years later, we'd went on vacation.
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:05.280
I'm doing well.
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.800
Financially, things were getting better in our lives, and it was bad for a while.
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:15.039
I mean, we never went broke or bankrupt or anything, but it was tight, and things start falling together again.
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:16.639
And we come back from vacation.
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:20.960
I'm at a company doing some work, and I told my wife, I said, I feel like I've got gall cells.
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:22.400
I don't even have a gallbladder anymore.
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:28.400
So she meets me at the hospital, they give me a shot, the pain goes away, and for a month I've got a fever, like 102.
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.559
If I'm not taking Advil, I've got a fever.
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:32.239
And I'm working just like a couple hours.
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:33.760
The company I work for is great.
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:34.960
They know I take care of business.
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:38.079
They said, Hey, we know you're sick, you just do what you can.
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:39.760
And it's crazy.
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:47.920
I did construction work, and the particular job I was on, it was a middle school, elementary school, and they were changing every rooftop, you know, for the heating and cooling.
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:49.599
There's like 28 of them.
00:36:50.000 --> 00:37:00.559
Nightmare job, because you've got to, we're taking the old ones off, making adapters for the new ones to set on, and they were multi-zone units, so everything had to, there's a lot of measuring and stuff, a lot of potential for things not working, right?
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:04.559
And I'm right in the middle of this, and I'm just working an hour or two a day, and somehow it's all working out.
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:05.840
Well, the Lord had his hand on it.
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:06.239
Yeah.
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:16.000
So finally, after four weeks, I had people praying for me, and God had just brought me through a lot of things, but I still had this fever, didn't feel good, and I just want to get this fixed.
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:22.400
So I go in there on a Monday, they do a scan, and they go, Oh, you got a big cyst on your pancreas, it's about half the size of an orange.
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.519
And that's where your infection is, and that's what's caused you to have a fever.
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:29.360
So they said, come back, come here Tuesday afternoon, pick up this.
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:32.079
It was a big foam cup of uh contrasting fluid.
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.559
We want you to drink this early Wednesday morning.
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:39.840
Then we want to be in here like at 6 30, we're gonna go and do a CAT scan, we're gonna run a needle in there, we're gonna drain it.
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:43.119
If that doesn't work, we're taking surgery and cut it open and get rid of it.
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:45.679
So I'm like, I'm just ready to feel better.
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.840
Because I'm just like, if I wasn't taking Advil, I'd sweat the sheets away.
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:51.599
That's how bad it was.
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.239
And I'm thinking, I'm thinking, man, I went through this.
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.159
Did I not learn something, Lord?
00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:58.559
I'm more of a person like, am I being punished?
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:02.960
I probably shouldn't always look at it that way, but I'm like, Right, you've just I've been in a knucklehead in my life.
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:05.360
It's just a human instinct, you can think about it like that.
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:10.159
And I remember I went to that job site and I thought, well, it's one o'clock, I'm just gonna run.
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:12.480
And this has changed my life.
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:16.559
The one you talk about, the thing that God spoke to you, this is a thing that changed my life.
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:21.920
So I go to the job site, I fax in some measurements for something I'd made, and I'm going to the hospital.
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:28.000
And I'm cutting across, going down Trust and going to a downtown hospital that I'd spend a lot of time at research hospital.
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:30.159
And I'm having this conversation with the Lord in my mind.
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.079
I'm like, is there something I didn't learn here?
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:33.679
Like, you nearly killed me the first time.
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:35.519
And are we gonna go through this again?
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:36.559
Bankrupt me?
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:38.960
Is there something I'm not doing right?
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:40.639
Or you know, I'm kind of having that conversation.
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:41.920
Start asking yourself, yeah.
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:42.239
Yeah.
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:49.599
And I'd like to tell you this happened, and it was like a s a whole second, or it was ten seconds long, but it wasn't.
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:53.519
I pulled up to a light and it just went and it was gone.
00:38:53.679 --> 00:39:04.239
But what I saw in that was I saw somebody on a throne, I saw a big thing got pointed, and it went through me, and it made me feel elated, crazy.
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.199
I mean, you know how you sneeze, you have a euphoric feeling?
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:12.400
It was that times a hundred, and it just I felt euphoric, and then but as soon as it happened, I mean I didn't know.
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:20.239
I thought, oh that was God, but it happened so fast, and I've still got this high fever, and now I'm sitting here at the light, the light hasn't turned, then it turns green, so I drive on.
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:21.840
I'm like, okay, what just happened here?
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:22.239
Right.
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.679
I'm thinking my fever has got so high I'm starting to hallucinate.
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:26.719
Oh, yeah.
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:33.119
Because I I mean, but I'm as I'm driving off, I'm thinking, I still have this euphoric feel it kind of resonating through me.
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:34.480
I'm like, what's that?
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:39.039
And I I'm just I can't really wrap my hands around it or my head around it.
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:44.079
And I'm I'm a person like if I can't touch it or feel it, I don't I'm not too much of a believer in it.
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:44.800
Yeah, right.
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:46.480
I'm not that way so much anymore.
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:49.199
But anyway, so I I just set it off the side.
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:53.519
I don't tell my wife because I'm figured she doesn't need to know I'm going crazy and losing my mind.
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:55.760
She doesn't need that extra burden.
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:56.239
Right.
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:59.599
So I get the contrasting fluid, go home, don't say anything.
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:01.519
I take the fluid when I get up in the next morning.
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:02.800
My wife goes, How do you feel this morning?
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:05.760
I said, Man, I didn't even sweat the sheets weren't sweaty this morning.
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.400
Usually the adulter would run out somewhere in the middle of the night.
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:08.639
Yeah.
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:10.400
And I said, I just feel great.
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:11.840
I feel better than I felt in a month.
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:17.360
So I went to the hospital, doctor explains what he's gonna do, lays me down, gives me another contrasting fluid in my arm.
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.480
I'm laying there, I finally go to sleep, and he comes out and he goes, We got a problem.
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:23.119
And I'm thinking, well, that's difficult for me.
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:24.400
There's gonna be a problem.
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:25.519
That's another day.
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:27.119
That's the way my life is.
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:29.599
And he goes, I said, Well, what's the problem?
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:31.679
He goes, Well, that cyst is completely gone.
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:32.320
And I said, Oh.
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:34.559
And my wife immediately goes, Well, it's a miracle.
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:36.320
And then and the nurse said that too.
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:39.360
And I I'd be in my knucklehead, I can be at times.
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:41.920
I said, Well, maybe you just misdiagnose it.
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:43.039
And he went off.
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:43.920
Oh.
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.679
He told me he's like, I've been doing this 20 years in Chicago and I've done it 10 years here.
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:50.000
Yeah.
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:50.800
I don't miss it.
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:52.320
He goes, There's not even a red spot.
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.239
There's not even nothing there.
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:55.440
He goes, How do you feel today?
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:56.320
And I said, I feel great.
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:57.840
He goes, I guess just go home.
00:40:58.320 --> 00:40:59.440
If you're feeling bad, call me.
00:40:59.519 --> 00:40:59.760
Yeah.
00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:01.760
So I mean, we're rejoicing on the way home.
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:02.000
Yeah.
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:03.920
And then I told my wife what happened.
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:06.480
I said, Man, this happened to me yesterday.
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.800
So I think she goes, Well, God healed you yesterday.
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:11.280
I guess, but something else happened.
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:14.320
Something weird happened.
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:16.079
And I said, I can't put my finger on it.
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.199
I said, I thought I was losing my mind honestly, so I didn't say anything to you about it.
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:19.599
Yeah.
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:25.679
So, like a day or two later, I'm I'm a Sunday school teacher and I'm teaching in uh Romans.
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.719
And I can still Romans 8, 38, and 39.
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:29.840
Do you know what that says?
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:38.880
It talks about it talks about um how can't separate us from his love, height, depth, our principalities, things from the past, things from the future.
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:40.960
Nothing can separate you from the love of Jesus.
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:44.000
And I read that and it just broke me.
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:48.079
I mean, and I mean, like I just began to weep, and I'm not a weep.
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:49.679
I didn't used to be a weeper.
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:51.920
I didn't used to be.
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:53.360
I was very hard.
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:57.039
Just from things growing up, I think I was just I didn't have heart.
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:57.760
I didn't cry.
00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:59.599
And uh I just weeped.
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:03.280
And it wasn't sadness, it was like I knew how much he loved me.
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:05.599
It's still hard for me to talk about it.
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:07.280
And I thought, wow.
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:11.119
So I closed the Bible and I'm like, I got myself all together.
00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:14.000
I'm like, I'm gonna read that again, I'm gonna try that, I'm gonna give this a test.
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:14.719
I open that up.
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:16.960
I start reading, I just crushed me again.
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:17.440
Wow.
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.960
I was like, I did it again, and then I thought I'm gonna go to a different passage.
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:22.880
And I read about his love and crushed me again.
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:23.760
I was like, wow.
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:25.360
And that's what I told my wife about it.
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:27.440
I said, Man, does he really jack me up?
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:33.119
I said every time I try to read about his love, it just tears me up.
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:36.159
I said, I feel like I know what happened.
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:41.599
I said, I think he let me have just a little dose of you can't have his full love in his body.
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:42.639
I think it'll kill you.
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:43.039
Yeah.
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:45.199
And you knew how you're gonna feel it.
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:50.559
But I said, I'm gonna tell you, it felt I said, when that went through me, I just it was so ridiculous I wanted to hang on to it.
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:50.880
Yeah.
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:55.760
And I said, it just I said, I think he let me feel a little bit of his love and has reminded me of it.
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:58.320
And I said, it breaks me every time I think about it.
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.239
And I'm telling you, I have to listen to a lot of people.
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:05.280
When you realize how much God loves you, it'll change your life.
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:05.599
Yeah.
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:11.599
It'll change how you treat your wife, it'll change how you do your job, it'll change how you love the Lord, it'll change how you drive your car.
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:20.159
My wife says I probably still need more Jesus when I drive my car at times, but yeah, I'm still that quirky torch professional.
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:20.960
Yeah.
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:22.800
But that's how I knew.
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.679
I just never saw it coming, but I know I know this.
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:31.119
He loves me, and I'm gonna tell you something, and you're gonna roll your eyes at this when I say this, but I'm his favorite.
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:34.239
He loves me that much.
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:35.280
I'm his favorite.
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:37.039
But the truth is you are too.
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:37.599
Yeah, yeah.
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:38.239
Everybody is.
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:39.679
And but you're gonna feel that.
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:39.840
Yeah.
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:45.760
When you and I told my wife, I said, When we go to heaven and we stay in his presence, I'll say it's gonna soak at you like the sun.
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:46.320
Yeah.
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:47.920
It's gonna tear you up.
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:48.400
Mm-hmm.
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:50.800
I said, You're never gonna feel so loved in your life.
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:51.119
Yeah.
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:53.039
I never felt that kind of loved before.
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:53.519
Mm-hmm.
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:58.719
I mean I I love my parents, but uh like every kid going up, you're like, you've had issues with your parents at times.
00:43:58.880 --> 00:43:59.119
Oh, yeah.
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.079
Like I just never felt that way before.
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:03.840
It just changed my life.
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:05.119
It just changed.
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:12.000
I mean, I think about I remember Brad talking the other day about because you were this before Jesus and you were this after Jesus.
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:13.679
And I was like, well, I can tell you what I was.
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:14.480
I was selfish.
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:15.039
Mm-hmm.
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:22.239
I met a woman that didn't drag me, but helped me go down a path that I needed to go to get back to the world.
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:24.800
I remember when I was dating her, I was saved.
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:26.000
I was not saved.
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:32.559
And uh some things happened before we got married that just that might be on another subject, but I didn't feel I was worthy of his love.
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:34.400
I didn't think I was worthy of it.
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:35.440
I think we've all been there.
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:36.159
Yeah.
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:38.480
And he just showed me how much he loved me.
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:42.800
And if I yeah, I guess my message to everybody is he loves you.
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:43.920
And there's always a chance.
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.599
As long as there's breath in your lungs, there's a chance that you can live with him forever.
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:51.280
And if he can fix me, he can fix anybody.
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:54.480
Yeah, I'd say the same thing about me.
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.880
But I don't know, you've got some pretty good stories to he's just in my life.
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.760
One of the things that I notice is I I was very softish.
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.920
Even in our marriage when we first got I think a lot of men are that way, but I see what he's done in my life.
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.800
Now, to me, I love to fabricate things or make things.
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:09.599
I make knives.
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:12.880
I made a bunch of boxes for my wife for a ministry that she's in.
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.519
It blesses me to make things and give them to people.
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.760
It's like therapeutic for me these days.
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:19.519
And I was not that way when I was younger.
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:20.400
Selfish.
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:20.719
Yeah.
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:28.320
I mean, and you know, I've had a lot of things happen in my life, but the the story of him show me how much he loved me just changed my life, yeah.
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:29.280
Changed your life.
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:31.679
That was the that was the wake-up moment.
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:36.000
Yeah, you could have just turned the uh podcast off right there when you after you got done with that story.
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:36.559
I know, right?
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:38.159
And it was a little glimpse.
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:41.519
Yeah, that was the but I'll tell you something that kind of happened out of that.
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:46.960
I was seeking the Lord and everything, but when something like that happens to you, it just makes you want to serve him more.
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:54.800
And I remember, okay, so that was in July when that happened, when I that cyst got taken away and I had this experience.
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:59.280
And you think everybody thinks they've got God all figured out, like, oh, he healed me.
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.440
No, my pancreas never worked after that again.
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:08.239
And from the first time it had worked all the way for the five years, they told me when I was in the hospital the first time, you're gonna be type one diabetic, you'll be messed up.
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:09.039
You can be able to.
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:11.039
Well, it didn't work that way.
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:12.559
I was fine up to that point.
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:16.880
After that happened, I noticed I started losing weight, and uh, it's just thirsty all the time.
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.880
And I was on a hunting trip, I was on an elk boeing trip out in Colorado.
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.119
This friend of mine said, How many times did you get up last night?
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:24.079
I was like, Four times.
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:28.480
Oh I'm like, peeing all the time, because I can't warm tap water tastes good.
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:29.920
I can't drink enough water.
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:33.199
And I'm starting to lose weight, which is not normal for me.
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:35.280
Gaining weight is normal for me.
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:37.440
So yeah.
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.960
So a buddy of mine said, Well, I got he says you might be type two diabetic.
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:42.320
You should go to the doctor when you get back.
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:42.880
So I did.
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:48.239
I think the first time I went, I was like 402 or something on the budget, which 80 to 100 is normal.
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:48.639
Yeah.
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:50.960
So immediately I got put on insulin.
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:53.840
So from that point on, I've been type one diabetic.
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:54.320
Yeah.
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:55.519
My mom is too.
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:56.159
Yeah.
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:57.679
So I had to go through all that.
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:03.039
It's like walking a balanced mean on a roller coaster, truly.
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:13.840
Yeah, you just you try to balance it, and sometimes I swear my pancreas still kicks in every once in a while and helps me out, and then it'll cause me to crash, and then I gotta eat something sweet, and then you know, and I pretty much eat what I want.
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.800
I mean, careful with my carbs, but I can always take insulin.
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:17.039
Right.
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:21.039
And I tried to keep it in my I've got my on my meter, my GMI.
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:24.079
It's like your A1C is like an average what your blood sugar is.
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:25.679
It's pretty good for the most part.
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:27.760
I mean, I've been this way for 30 years.
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.239
It's hard, it's hard to navigate.
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:30.800
It is.
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:33.440
It's just a complex balancing bean thing.
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:36.400
And it just makes a lot of things difficult.
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:45.360
But all that time in the hospital has messed up in so many ways, like that systling on my lungs, it paralyzes the bottom thirds back of my lungs, so I can't breathe well.
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:46.559
It's hard for me to sing.
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:50.480
It's not I can still sing, I just have to really plan my breathing to hold a note on.
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:51.360
Oh wow.
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:51.920
Yeah.
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.840
Because my wife and I used to do worship, so we didn't sing a lot together.
00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:57.280
I'm very musical.
00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:58.159
I've always been that way.
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:01.119
I started playing piano when I was like eight, I think.
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:05.599
And then I started playing the guitar when I was in high school, and I started playing the bass, and I play the banjo now.
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:08.400
I started doing that 10 or 15 years ago.
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But my lungs not being right, I started noticing at a certain point for 30 years I was a project manager in this sheet metal company, different sheet metal companies.
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And uh, at a point I the blessing of being able to go to the apprenticeship school and teach mathematics and fabrication and welding and things.
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Stuff I had done my whole life.
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It was easy to teach, and it was close to my house, and it was kind of it was actually a cut and pay, but in a way it wasn't because I wasn't spending all the gas money driving all over.
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And it was close to my house.
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It was like seven minutes from my house in school.
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I taught that for eight years before I retired.
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But I noticed, like, I give tests, I'd be sitting there and I'd be nodding off.
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And I'm like, I'm the guy that goes to bed at 9 30, gets up at 5, you know, every day.
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My kids used to give me a hard time about going to bed early.
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That's way past your bedtime.
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Like now they're doing the same thing.
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Right.
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So I ended up going to the doctor, and then I had sleep apnea.
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So I have sleep with a CPAP now.
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Yeah.
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And I've had an AFib with my heart.
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I just went through a procedure here to see if I needed stents, and I didn't need any stents, but I've got heart issues, I've got breathing issues, I've got it.
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Well, I mean, and I'm still good.
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What's crazy is I still cut like five or six cords of wood a year.
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I still cycle, but I've got an e-bike and I ride it around on the gravel now.
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I mean, I pedal the thing the whole way, but it helps me get up the hills.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It gives me motion my back and my legs, so I don't have problems.
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When you retire, you've got to stay busy or you'll just you'll lock up and you can't do anything.
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Yeah.
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And so I mean I I can still do a multiply of things.
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I'm not I'm not what I used to be when I was younger.
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I can't ride 120 miles.
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But I mean, a few years back I rode 60 miles with my son on the Katie Trail.
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So you've got to be good through all seasons.
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So no, I love your story, and I and like I told her, I said, God loves you is probably where we could have stopped that really meant a lot.
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So I you your story is crazy.
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I think there'll be a lot of people.
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I think there'll be a lot of people that there's nothing that you can do that he can't let right fast.
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Right.
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So that's true.
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That's that's amazing.
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I appreciate your time on here, and I appreciate your just transparency with you know, talking about reading Romans 8.28 and how it really affected you, and yeah, and your story that goes back even to when you were baptized when you were eight.
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So that's what this is about.
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It's about just relating to those people that's been there and done that, that maybe there's somebody that's got a heart problem, that's diabetic, and all those things, too, or maybe one or two of those things, or not all three of them, or you know, falling out of the tree, you know, all the little things.
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So it's just it's crazy.
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Your your stories.
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That's why I probably didn't say much.
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I just sat here and just listened and took it in.
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But I do appreciate you coming on here.
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It really means a lot to me.
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I'm looking forward to going to the cruise on you.
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Yeah, learning anything about you.
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It's gonna be so good.
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It'll be good.
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It'll be good.
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You'll have a great time.
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We eat a lot, drink a lot of coffee, so just be ready for coffee.
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I've got a coffee.
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Love the smell of coffee.
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We'll work on you.
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There you go.
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And my wife drinks it all the time, and I'm like, I don't know, we'll work on you.
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Well, then you can just enjoy the aroma.
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Yeah, you can enjoy the aroma.
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Because we we we live off coffee on that cruise.
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So it'll be good.
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It'll be good.
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:10.960
But no, Keith, I do appreciate you coming on here.
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Yes, and taking the time out of your day um and telling the story.
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And I really and if I get feedback from your story, I definitely let you know about it too.
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Yeah.
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But even if it retreats that one.
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That's not the matter.
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Just the one.
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I had you remember that aunt that went and talked to my grandmother before she died.
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When I was in the hospital, she was getting pretty old.
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She was a lovely lady.
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I mean, man, she had a good heart.
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Just a loving heart.
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She'd just go around the country and minister to people.
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And when I was in the hospital, she prophesied over me and said that I would live to.
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She told my mom I would live.
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She had a scripture with her, my mom still has it.
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And she said he'll live to a long age and he will stand up in the congregation and tell the good things that God's done for him.
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There you go.
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I'm like, here I am.
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Here you are.
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Part of that prophecy.
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Here you are.
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God loves us.
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So I appreciate you.
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Thank you so much.
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You've been great.
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All right, guys.
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Remember to like, subscribe, comment, all the good things.
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We love you.
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Jesus loves you.
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God loves you.
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Robert Thorea's out.