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You're not going to believe your ears. Trust me. You're
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going to want to hear this. Mates, you found Primus Tracks. Congratulations. Hello, primates!
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You found Primus Tracks. Congratulations! There are so many places
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to find Primus Tracks. The podcast is a good start.
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You can also find us at Primus Tracks on Instagram
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and threads, and there's a Facebook page called Primus Tracks.
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And we have an email address. It's primustrackspod at gmail.com.
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I am Dr. Josh Bald, one of the hosts of
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Primus Tracks. He is coming to you from the 39th
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floor of Primus Tracks Towers, where he is receiving signals
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from underground on Mars. It is Frankie Berestein. Hi, Josh.
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Frankie!
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Frankie! It's Mars Day. We're going back to Mars on
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this podcast. It's as if the Claypool Lennon Delirium is
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obsessed with celestial bodies and planets within this solar system.
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Yep.
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We are talking Borska today from your South of Reality record.
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But first, we have miscellaneous debris. I don't know if
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you heard, Frankie, but Primus is playing New Year's Eve
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in the Bay again.
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I'm curious. I got tickets.
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December 30th and 31st at the Fox Theater.
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I must say, I love these double runs they've been
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doing as of lately.
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Yes, the two-night New Year's Eve experiences have been off-the-charts fun.
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It makes it really worthwhile, the trip.
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It really does make the trip worthwhile. If I'm traveling
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more than a few hours, I've got to see them
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two nights. Otherwise, I think, oh man, all that driving,
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I don't know. Or all that flying, depending on the locale.
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They've been doing that for a while now, and this
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year's seemingly is two straight evenings with Primus.
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Do you think we'll get new tracks?
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I hope it. And I suspect, because the theme is
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the Grizz, we'll certainly hear the Grizz. And I think
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they'll sneak one more new one in there.
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I'm so excited to hear the old Grizz live at last.
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Oh, that's right. Frankie, you didn't catch any of these
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2026 shows with the Grizz. So you will finally get
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to your live dosage of Grizz.
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Finally get my fix. Oh, man.
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It's a fun one live, but you don't need to
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take my word for it. You've seen all the videos.
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It's funny because, you know, I look at my song
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counts from time to time and Grizz is already up there.
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I've already gotten Grizz four times.
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Wow.
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So it's climbing the list rapidly and good on it.
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December 30th and 31st, Fox Theater, Oakland. Go get your tickets.
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What are you waiting for?
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See you there.
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Look for a really tall guy with glasses and short
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hair who's at the front of the line and is
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holding a pile of records that I dumped into his arms.
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Just prior to the show.
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And what he'll do is from, yeah, prior to the show.
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So you have to carry it all in. And what
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I understand you'll do is if somebody says hi to you,
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you'll autograph the top record on the stack and hand
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it to that person. Is that correct?
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Yeah.
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Okay, great. Frankie's giving away all kinds of stuff. Ask
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him about it at the shows. Now, we, as far
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as I know, Frankie, I do not have a past
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life on another planet in the solar system. Do you?
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Nope. Not that I believe.
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Today we're going to talk about somebody who purports to
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have such an experience. And that person is Boriska, who
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is the title of today's track from the South of
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Reality record. It's track four. Checks in at five minutes
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and 25 seconds. Credits are as follows. Sean Lennon on
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lead vocals, guitar, and Mellotron. Les Claypool on bass and
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backing vocals. And Paolo Baldi on drums.
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Yes.
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One of his three guest turns on drums on this record. Now, Boriska,
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I will say, I think it escaped me. the first
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time I heard this record. And what I mean by
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that is I listened to it, but it didn't stick.
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But after revisiting it, it has stuck. Tell us about
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this one, Frankie.
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Boriska was premiered in April 2019 in Toronto, Canada. And
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it was in heavy rotation throughout the year, leading up
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to the December 31st performance at the Warfield in San Francisco.
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It has not been performed since. When it was played live,
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it was a very faithful rendition to the studio version,
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not any jamming throughout the song, except, of course, for
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a semi-extended guitar intro by Sean Lennon, which was kind
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of standard for several Delirium tracks at the time, even
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since the previous record. Ah.
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Okay, so this one they play relatively straight.
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Relatively straightforward, yes.
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And how common was it on that 2019 tour?
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Extremely common.
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Okay, so that was a fixture.
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Yeah, it was played 45 times during 2019. Oh, man.
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Yeah, that's almost every night.
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Thirdly, it was pretty easy to catch if you had
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tickets to a 2019 show. It was even performed at festivals.
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So it was definitely a song they enjoyed playing live. Excellent.
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It does have some interesting parts, and of course we'll
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talk about that. But the lyrical subject of the song, Boriska,
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this seems right up your alley. Certainly me too. It's
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right in my range of interests, including the paranormal.
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Now I request that you say Boriska's full name.
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Ah, jeez, I was trying to avoid it because I
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don't want to trip over it and damage my credibility.
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I think it's Boriska... Kipriyanovich.
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That works for me, Boris Kipriyanovich, yeah. I'm going to
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westernize it and say Kipriyanovich.
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All right. All right. January 11, 1996, Russia.
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Is that when his Mars craft crashed, landed?
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Apparently.
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And he became human?
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Yes. Okay, yeah.
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So for those of you unfamiliar, Boris at the time,
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in the 1990s, was a young Russian boy who was
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very precocious, really sharp-minded. and claimed he was the reincarnation
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of some kind of life form on Mars from centuries ago,
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who was here on Earth now as a messenger.
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His parents claimed that he read newspapers when he was
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18 months old.
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Yes, that he was a child prodigy and was speaking
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and reading well before the average child, and then was
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able to, and was without any prompts or without any input,
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was speaking of history and culture and outer space and
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all these things that no person would know about unless
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they'd actually taken in that information. So the parents and
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these professors that they had spoken with, so the story goes,
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all claimed, no, there's no way this kid had access
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to this information that he's spouting and what he's espousing now. Which,
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of course, strains the credibility of the parents. Because if
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they're the ones making this claim and this kid is
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saying all this stuff, my eyes go right to the parents.
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And then I have questions. There actually is a documentary
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interview with Boriska by Project Camelot. It's on YouTube. What's
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really funny, though, Frankie, if you go to the Project
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Camelot website, first of all, It is a product of
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the early 2000s. It's still there in all its glory.
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But their stated mission is to give voice to the
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marginalized people who have some kind of– or whistleblowers who
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have some kind of story to tell that would be
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beyond the mainstream. And my understanding, too, is Project Camelot,
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the name of that production company, is a reference to
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some kind of military– anti-insurgency research or some kind of
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social engineering thing that the military was doing to keep
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people from rebelling. I can't remember the whole thing. Anyhow,
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some people from Project Camelot went to Russia and interviewed
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this guy, this guy, this kid, and his mother in
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the aughts. I was planning on playing clips because the
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video's on YouTube, the audio's available through the Project Camelot website.
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It is brutal.
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I couldn't find a clip worth playing. It's god-awful, Frankie.
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This interviewer sucks. She is so bad. She asked a
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pertinent question and then follows it up with, are there
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trees on Mars?
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What did Boriska say?
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He said no. What are you asking him that for?
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We know what's on Mars. Even in 2008, we know
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what's on Mars. All right. So the interviewer, she's terrible.
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The other thing you do, When you are interviewing somebody
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who does not speak your language, Frankie, is you ask
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them the question. So if I was interviewing you. and
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you were not an English speaker, I would look at
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you while asking the question in English. Your interpreter would
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then interpret it for you. You would answer in your
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preferred language. And then the interpreter would repeat it back
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to me in English. OK, but I'm addressing everything to you.
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I'd say, Frankie, tell me about blah.
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Right.
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So this this interviewer doesn't do that. This is one
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on one. She's talking to the mother and saying, ask
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him this. Tell him this. And she doesn't address him
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at all. It's so annoying.
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Wow.
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Come on now. It's very strange. The conversation. So the
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mom's interpreting. But there's three other people in the room.
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I don't know why, but they're there. And Boriska, by
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the way, to his credit, he's answering all the questions.
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But he's 11 or 12 years old at this point.
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And he's just slouched in a chair. He just looks
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like a regular kid. He's just slouched in a chair.
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And he's giving really short answers to things. And he's
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mumbling a lot. It's nothing like the articles that you
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can find on the internet that are written about him
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that he's very patient and polite and somewhat serene in
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his countenance and very sophisticated. I got none of that
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from him. I've been teaching 20 years, Frankie. I was like, oh,
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that's a 12-year-old kid. This is a regular 12-year-old kid
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who happens to be pretty sharp. My understanding is that mom,
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at the least, mom among other people, fed him all
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of this stuff. he was able to regurgitate it very
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convincingly and effectively because newsflash, kids are language sponges.
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Sean did arrive to the same conclusion at the beginning
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of the song.
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Yeah. Oh, Sean's not buying it. Yeah, in the lyrics,
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like right away. He's like, mom fed him this stuff. So,
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which is really interesting because in these Claypool Lennon Delirium songs,
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we're in outer space and we're examining possibilities and all
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these wondrous... celestial bodies and things happening. But this one is,
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and this kid's full of shit. That's the message. And yeah,
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he is, but it was spoon fed to him because
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kids are, they're language sponges. They're absorbing everything around them
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and their brains are growing at an astronomical rate. The
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language center of the brain is lighten up right away.
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If you can't read or write to communicate, you get
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really good at listening and speaking. And that's what little
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kids do.
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He's also referred to as an indigo child.
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Oh, we'll get to that. Yes.
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Jeez. That's a new age concept.
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Yes.
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Describing a child supposed to possess special or rare traits.
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And I think part of what the definition of an
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indigo child is based on is that kind of proficiency
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with language at a really early age. So, yeah. So
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some woo-woo person said, oh, your child is clearly an
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indigo child. I mean, if what they're saying is true
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about his language acquisition, he's a gifted child. The other
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thing about young kids, Frankie, is they're really good at
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mimicking adult behaviors. They're incredible at it. If they're around
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adults all the time, they'll talk and act like adults
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when they're three or four years old. But when they
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hit puberty... They don't give a shit. They lose their minds, right?
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So this 12-year-old kid, and he's got a little peach fuzz,
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all right? So puberty's hitting him hard. He's just sitting
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there slouching, going, oh, yeah, got to do this act again.
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He's just saying all the things that he's supposed to say,
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but he doesn't want to be there. It's pretty easy
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to tell. So this is clearly... Not at all legitimate,
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but it's pretty impressive that as a young kid, he
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was able to memorize all these details and speak of
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them in a convincing manner. And that's about all it is.
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It's a parlor trick. Also, if you watch the video
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and see Stills, he's drawing stuff on a whiteboard behind him.
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That kid can't draw for shit. If you're an ancient alien,
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I think you would have better artistic skills. Tell us
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more about an indigo child, Frankie. I want to know
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if you are one.
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I found seven common traits of indigo children.
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Let us have them because I'm going to go down
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the list and check the box if it applies to you.
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Okay. So it says, your curiosity has no end and
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you struggle to digest inhumanity.
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Yes, that describes you.
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You hate conventional systems and rules.
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Are you a rule follower, Frankie?
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Not at all.
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Oh, wow, you rebel. All right, that's two.
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You are an animal person with a deep connection to
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both flora and fauna.
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Well, I know you love dogs. Yeah.
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All right. You have existential despair and battle with depression.
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That, I don't know that applies to you. I've never
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seen sign one of that.
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You have experienced uncommon mystical encounters.
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You seen a ghost?
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I don't think so.
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Okay.
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Darn. You feel a deep need to achieve your potential.
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I'm going to say yes in podcasting.
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And number seven, finding your purpose in life is hard.
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These are all catch-all items that could apply to anyone
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at any time in their.
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Lives, right? Yeah. Seems like we are all Indigo AF.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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You are four-sevenths indigo child. Congratulations, you're more than half.
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That's fascinating. I also found an article, but it was
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17 signs you're an indigo child, so I'm glad you
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found one that was much more brief.
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That raises your chances of being one.
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Yeah, it is an interesting New Age concept that these
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indigo children are highly empathic, empathetic, and want to change
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the world in a positive way, that sort of thing.
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I can't really buy it, but it's just another thing
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to sell somebody.
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So we've established we are not indigo children, but Boriska is.
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That comes from that deep-seated need that he stated to
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warn humanity that if they continue on this path, there
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will be a nuclear holocaust. Because did you know, Frankie,
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thousands of years ago, there was a nuclear holocaust on Mars,
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and that's why everyone went below the surface?
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Apparently, yeah. Yeah.
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Apparently. This is straight from Boriska's mouth. He was also
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a spacecraft pilot thousands of years ago, and he came
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to Earth and hung out with the Egyptians, the ancient Egyptians.
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Incredible.
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And he claims that behind one of the Sphinx's ears
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is something that will change the course of humanity forever.
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Did you read that part? Did you hear about that?
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No, I didn't get that far.
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Well, I don't know about you, Franky. But if it's
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behind the Sphinx's ear, knowing humanity, that thing that's going
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to save humanity is in the British Museum. That's an
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imperialism joke. Thank you very much. For those unfamiliar, the British,
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when they colonized or conquered different parts of the world,
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took a whole bunch of stuff back with them to
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Britain and put it in the British Museum. I'm sure
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my disgust is shining through. Call me Fox Mulder because
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I want to believe, but I cannot believe this. By
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the way, Frankie, why is Fox Mulder's catchphrase, I want
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to believe?
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Because I think throughout the show, his beliefs were frequently
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tested either by skepticals or by the government itself, right?
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That's fair, yes. There was a run where he had
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a role reversal with Scully and became a skeptic.
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Yes.
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But I'm just thinking of nine-tenths of the episodes where
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six seconds in, he says, it's aliens! It's a monster! Okay,
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thank you for that. All right, we should probably talk
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about the song itself after that. Wow, Josh really hates
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this kid. All right, so with the song itself, Frankie,
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we open on some interesting vocals from Sean. A lot of,
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he's harmonizing with himself, but he's got a lot of
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effects on his voice. Really cool vocals throughout from both
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him and Les. They both are laying on the effects
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pretty heavily. And that's what I'm going to look for
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in our live cuts to see if they repeat those.
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Because they're doing a lot on their voices. And really,
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there's just a lot of cool parts to this song.
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Let's hear a little bit of it.
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Will he understand us?
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You can hear that main riff being previewed here.
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I didn't count it out, but that's an interesting time
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signature they're in there.
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So they give us this....
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Cool part, and that comes back around a few times.
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I'm going to forward to, I guess I'm going to
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call it the chorus, but it's kind of hard to
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tell because there's these verses, and they end the same
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way with this alien pilot and Indigo child sent from
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the red planet or the land of dust so he'd
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understand us. But that part, I really like this vocal
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delivery here. Does the delivery of those vocals remind you
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of another Delirium song?
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Which one comes to your mind?
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I'll play that part again. And you tell me if
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it fits. You bet.
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I hadn't made that connection, but I guess it kind
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of works. It's similar.
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It's not exactly the same. It just popped into my
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head while listening to it.
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After you shared that brief history on Boriska, now I
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can't stop thinking what it must... I mean, imagine... Sean
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selling this track to Les.
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Yeah, I would love to hear that discussion. Les is like,
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what the hell are you talking about? But that's, Les
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always says, Sean always has something like that up his sleeve.
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You know, he's a voracious reader and consumer of information.
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And so this would have come across, certainly would have
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attracted Sean's attention. And mine too. reading up on it,
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I was heavily interested to a point. So that must
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have been a fun conversation. Wait, who's this kid? What
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are you talking about? But as we know, in the
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Claypool Line and Delirium, for the most part, if you
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write it, you sing it. So all Les has to
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do is do the background vocals with that delivery of
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Indigo Child and such. So His delivery there was really
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interesting in that, what I'm calling the chorus. And then
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right after that, so right around a minute and a half,
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we get something cool.
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So that comes back around.
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And then we....
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Come right back into the next verse. So there's a
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nice song structure here. So we get our verses. We
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get a few breaks. I guess, will he understand it?
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Will they understand us? That question is, I guess you
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could say that's the theme. Because we hear, please understand us.
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Will he understand us a lot? That's really interesting. Because
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if we believe Boris is who he says he is,
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we might ask that question. I'm going to move ahead, Frankie,
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because I have a feeling that your favorite part of
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the song is in the second half. I'm going to
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play about a minute, and hopefully it encompasses your favorite
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part of the song.
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Okay.
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So some really great stuff happening there.
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How did you know that was my favorite part?
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I mean, I just had a feeling. I reached back
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into my past lives and drew on ancient wisdom.
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I mean, that's my favorite part, but I also love
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when Paolo hits those toms.
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Absolutely, yeah. Huge drum sound on this track. I think
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the odd time signature in the first half of the
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track is partially why they brought in Paolo, because it's tricky, and.
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So bring in a pro, why not? And so I
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played that part, Frankie, because one, I suspected it was
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your favorite part. I love the Mellotron line with the
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strings sounds that leads into the guitar solo. I think
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that is so well done. The guitar solo, possibly one
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of Lennon's best on these records. It sounds really great.
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It feels like, so the beat that Paolo's laying down,
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it's so pulsing. that to me, Frankie, it's the kind
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of rhythm that's difficult to keep on tempo. Because it
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feels like something that should be getting faster and faster
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and faster. And I think an immature or underdeveloped musician
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would allow that to happen. And they would just keep pushing, pushing,
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pushing the tempo until they're at breakneck speed. You could
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do that on this song if you wanted to, and
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I think it would sound great. If you were doing
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it consciously, but I think unconsciously, if I were playing
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that drum part, I think I would just unconsciously start
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going faster and faster because it just has that feeling
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like it's supposed to be picking up steam, but they
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keep it constant. I don't know if that entered your
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head at all when listening to this.
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Now that you mention it, yeah, makes sense.
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Like it feels like it would speed up, speed up
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and then be careening out of control by the end.
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And it would have that kind of car crash ending.
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Or spacecraft crash ending, actually.
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I think another element that makes the song stand out
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are the strings emulated by the keyboard.
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Yeah, not just on that one sting leading up to
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the guitar solo, but they're used throughout. It does make
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me wonder, because we mentioned this, or I mentioned that
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at that Frog Brigade show, Les had said that there
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was talk about doing either Primus in a string quartet
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or Claypool in a string quartet, something like that. Those
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kind of Mellotron sounds make me wonder if they could
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pull it off.
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Right?
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You get a string quartet to do those parts, it'll
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sound really cool.
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At a smaller scale, we could say he has kind
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of already had some experience with that. If you listen
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to those Barrington Hall performances from vintage Frog Brigade shows.
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Absolutely.
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Ben Barnes on violin.
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Thank you, Ben Barnes, yes.
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And Sam Bass on cello. Right. Yeah.
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We had that, we had the Fungi Ensemble, so there's,
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you know, he's treaded on that ground, just hasn't fully
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gone for it. But we could make a set list
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for him. Let's do that. We'll make a set list
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for Les Claypool and a string quartet and email it
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to him. He'll probably go out on tour right away. So,
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you know, I was kind of surprised coming back to
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this song. really like how all of these musical elements
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work together and less is backing vocals. Once again, he's
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finding different voicings for things. Uh, the way he says
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Indigo Child is really funny to me. Um, and Sean
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on lead vocals makes, makes sense. He's delivering them very nicely.
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It's a Sean track after all.
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It is a Sean track after all. And it's, it's
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very musical. Um, and as, as we've stated many a time,
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and I know you love it when we repeat ourselves, Um,
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on these Sean fronted tracks or written tracks, you can
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hear less and he's audible and you know, it's him,
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but he's not as Claypoolian, not completely right. He's, he's, uh,
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dialing it back a bit, but when they're his tracks,
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he's doing his thing.
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This, this particular song, I think it's even a pretty
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understated bass wise, which is a complete anomaly for Les Claypool,
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of course.
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Yeah, it is one of his more laid-back tracks as
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far as bass lines go, most assuredly. But it's an
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interesting one, and I'll go back to it. The subject
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matter is interesting. The lyrics are good. The melodies are great.
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The music sounds good. It picks up in that last
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two and a half minutes and takes you somewhere. It's
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a cool song.
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It also kind of stands out That's an unusual song
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because it's myth tempo, right? It's not a ballad, it's
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not that slow, but it's not as upbeat or fast-paced
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as other songs on the album. It's somewhere in the middle.
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Yeah, and not to jump the timeline too much, but
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on the Golden Egg album, there are a lot of
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songs that are similar to this one in terms of
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tempo and predominance of... Mellotron slash keyboard. So it could,
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in a way, not that we knew at the time,
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but it could serve as a preview for that record.
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Let's talk those lyrics. I mean, we know the story
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of Boriska for Chronicles. out loud. And as I noted,
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and I wrote it in my notebook, Sean isn't buying it.
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So that I mentioned it earlier in this first verse,
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he says, Boriska did it all for his mother. Once again,
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parent was probably feeding this to him. And he was
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a good little kid and said, yes, in a past life,
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I was a Martian. And I am here to tell
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you now that we had a nuclear war. We had
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to go underground. And now we're here. So you guys
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don't suffer the same fate. He just wanted to please
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her desperately. Could never disappoint her. He told her what
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she wanted to believe. That part that I played, the quasi-chorus,
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this alien pilot and indigo child, we discussed those two
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aspects of it. So they're right there in the lyrics.
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Sent from the Red Planet so he'd understand it. That's
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a nice rhyme. Red Planet, understand it. I can dig it.
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And then the question, will he understand it? So verse two,
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he never breaks under pressure. And you have to give
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him credit for that. He keeps it up. He keeps
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up the act. I wonder if he still does. I
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really hope not. Because doing that for 25 years has
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to be tiresome. Sean continues, his words are all measured strategically.
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Boriska is indeed very clever to make such interstellar fantasies.
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And I would imagine after a certain point, I think
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he was improvising a bit and making up his own
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stuff to go with what the Parameter's mom sent forward
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or parent or whoever was feeding him this stuff. He continues,
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what befell Atlantis, he says soon will happen to us.
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That's a bit of a stretch for a rhyme, but
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I'll take it. If we fall off the cosmic bandwagon,
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then that's the part about there was a nuclear holocaust
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on Mars and there will be one here too if
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we keep up what we're doing.
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Historians largely consider Atlantis a literary device and a philosophical
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allegory rather than an actual place. Plato used the story
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as a cautionary tale about human greed, political corruption, and
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the dangers of excessive pride.
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Absolutely. It is mythical 100%. Have you heard of Lemuria?
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Lemuria? As in Lemur, the sea?
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No, it's another lost continent.
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Oh, no.
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Okay, so... A bunch of pseudoscientists were positing that there
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was this lost continent called Lemuria. It was co-opted by, interestingly,
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co-opted by Madame Blavatsky. And she incorporated that into theosophy.
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So Lemuria plays a part in that, this mythical lost land.
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Skimmed it. I don't remember why it was so important,
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but it had to do with the origins of the
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human species or something like that. Madame Blavatsky, I guess, thought, oh,
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that's a good idea. I'm going to use that in
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Theosophy 2. Another connection to the occult. So I really
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like these lyrics. And I stated this earlier about the lyrics,
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that question, will they understand us? So sent from the
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land of dust so they'd understand us. Will they understand us?
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Please understand us. And will he understand us? So there's
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that seed of doubt that even if alien beings came here,
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they would have no idea what we're on about. We
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have talked about it enough. If you would like your
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opinion on the track up for discussion read right here
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00:33:04.500 --> 00:33:05.839
on the pod, all you have to do is go
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to patreon.com forward slash Primus Tracks. Of the many tiers
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of support over there, and we have a wonderful cast
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of supporters, the constant is Primates Takes. We're going to start.
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I've got three thoughtful responses, Frankie. And the first one
538
00:33:23.890 --> 00:33:27.730
is from the resident curmudgeon. It's Eric in Australia who says,
539
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this track has really drawn me in more in recent times.
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It's very shiner and I have no explanation for my
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love-hate relationship with his music. Probably equal second place on
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the album with Blood and Rockets for me. My favorite
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track will be revealed in due time.
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00:33:44.769 --> 00:33:48.730
Sounds like our fellow Eric is quite a fan of
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the character studies.
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00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.099
Ah, yeah. Parsons and Boriska. They do go hand in
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hand as far as character studies go. Great point, Frankie.
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Yeah, I think I know what his favorite track will be.
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I can't wait for the reveal. It's going to be
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00:34:02.869 --> 00:34:08.969
a great time. Our landed gentry Edwin Allen Richards IV says,
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This song didn't do much for me at first listen.
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I am someone that listens to albums in full. mostly
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on long road trips, and I found the more I
554
00:34:16.059 --> 00:34:18.719
heard Boriska, the more I grew to really love and
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00:34:18.739 --> 00:34:21.179
appreciate it. It just clicked with me one day, and
556
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.010
now it's a top track on the album for me.
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The first half is a lot of fun to sing
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along with, and the back half instrumental is transcendent. Thank you, Edwin.
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I can understand why it would be kind of a
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slow burner, but I must say, at least personally, I
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enjoyed it since the very first listen.
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Ah, very good.
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I just thought, wow, this is a cool track for sure.
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And welcome to Patreon, Mr. Q Hefner, our newest primatron,
565
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who says, like most of the songs on this album,
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I had no clue about the stories till I heard
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the songs. That being said, the rabbit hole I went
568
00:35:00.349 --> 00:35:04.530
down learning about the indigo children was wild. This is
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probably my third favorite track on the album. Interesting, Frankie.
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00:35:09.340 --> 00:35:12.119
So our three primates' takes all hold this one in
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really high regard. This is a surprise to me. This
572
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is why now I wish we had ranked the tracks
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one through nine before we discussed the record, so that
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we could compare our lists to the primatrons and the primates.
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I do wonder what Boriska would make of the track
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if he ever heard it.
577
00:35:35.579 --> 00:35:38.980
That's a great question. Has he heard it? We don't know.
578
00:35:39.139 --> 00:35:41.760
Is there a Russian version of South of Reality?
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00:35:41.780 --> 00:35:45.519
A Russian pressing? Not that I recall, no.
580
00:35:45.579 --> 00:35:47.599
Okay, so there may not be a Russian pressing that
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made its way over there. I hope Sean sent him
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a signed copy of The Golden Egg, because there is
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a Russian pressing of that one. Yes. All right, I
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hope that made it to Borska. With a little note
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that just said, sorry, SL. Now it really is time
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for Frankie's favorite part of the show.
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00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:13.840
Frankie, we're going back to a couple familiar places today.
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First.
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We're going to go to the Capitol Theater in New York,
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New York, July 30, 2019. I always think you're going
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to wait until I'm finished introducing it so you have
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the full range of sound to yourself.
593
00:36:54.530 --> 00:36:58.769
I prefer if it's below your voice.
594
00:37:00.389 --> 00:37:02.300
And it trips me up every single time because I
595
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want to hear it. Ooh, that pachyderm's way up there.
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00:37:17.059 --> 00:38:30.980
It's nasal. That's some really, really fine guitar work by
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00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:31.659
Sean there.
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It's very nice and it's loud and clear front and center.
599
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:35.019
Yeah.
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What I like about this and of course the videos
601
00:38:37.619 --> 00:38:41.960
on YouTube in that first part before it really kicks in,
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Drow's playing with one hand and he's kind of dancing
603
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around playing with one hand and the other arm's just
604
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hanging and he looks really cool.
605
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Yeah.
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00:38:52.630 --> 00:38:55.630
Look, Ma, one hand. I hesitate to say this because
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I know what's going to happen. Our next live cut
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is from another familiar place. Atlanta, Georgia, 2019. So the
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effect is.
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On the mic.
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Oh, man.
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Oh, man.
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00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:29.480
Well that sounded nice. I think we're getting more embellishments
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on the bass there. Oh, that sounds a lot more
615
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sour live. I like that. That sounds great.
616
00:41:03.099 --> 00:41:06.179
Sounds like a really fun song to learn for a drummer.
617
00:41:06.820 --> 00:41:10.179
Yeah, there's some fun stuff to do there. Really good.
618
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:12.469
You get an odd time signature. You get a lot
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of different rhythm changes. And you just have to stay
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on tempo for that part that we just played. You
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00:41:20.190 --> 00:41:23.389
can't push it. You'll get in trouble. But it is
622
00:41:23.469 --> 00:41:26.719
one of those songs that it's swayable, but it's not
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I wouldn't call it eminently danceable. So the crowd, and it's,
624
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you know, it's April in Atlanta, so it's probably a
625
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really nice day.
626
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:36.059
They don't know what to do.
627
00:41:36.300 --> 00:41:38.320
They're not sure what to do. Yeah, I think they're
628
00:41:38.340 --> 00:41:42.949
a bit confused. But I mean, it's 420 Fest, so
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they're probably confused for a reason.
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Where would you place Boriska in the album cover artwork?
631
00:41:52.789 --> 00:41:54.730
Well, Frankie, I'm going to grab my vinyl copy of
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South of Reality.
633
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:56.840
Yeah, let's inspect it.
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00:41:57.059 --> 00:41:59.280
And we're going to inspect it closely. You know, you
635
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.510
pointed out the amethyst and the flea and the compass,
636
00:42:02.550 --> 00:42:06.670
of course. Even though there's water, or what we think
637
00:42:06.750 --> 00:42:08.309
is a body of water here.
638
00:42:08.809 --> 00:42:09.550
For little fishes.
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00:42:10.030 --> 00:42:14.280
For little fishes. It also looks like a barren planet landscape.
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So one could argue, and we know that thanks to
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00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.940
the rovers, that there's evidence that there once was water
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on Mars. So this could be Mars... Thousands, if not
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00:42:27.349 --> 00:42:30.190
millions of years ago when there was water. This could
644
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be when Boriska was living on Mars.
645
00:42:33.789 --> 00:42:34.570
Very well could be.
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00:42:34.889 --> 00:42:39.039
And I would imagine Mars, that might be, that could
647
00:42:39.059 --> 00:42:42.619
be Deimos and Phobos there. The two little moons and
648
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.260
then that giant planet because Mars is so far away.
649
00:42:45.300 --> 00:42:50.000
That could be Mars' neighboring planet just looming there in
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the sky. I don't know. Could be. That's my guess.
651
00:42:55.900 --> 00:42:59.719
I don't, I don't see anything, uh, anything else that would.
652
00:42:59.739 --> 00:43:01.099
I'm buying it. All right.
653
00:43:01.420 --> 00:43:02.619
We did it. We cracked the code.
654
00:43:02.900 --> 00:43:03.039
Yeah.
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00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:04.760
Yesuda, we're onto you.
656
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.309
Yeah.
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00:43:09.150 --> 00:43:12.710
Anyway, Boriska, you've been tracked. Next time, Frankie, swipe right.
658
00:43:13.289 --> 00:43:13.969
That's my advice to you.
659
00:43:14.349 --> 00:43:17.650
Read the bio carefully. Yeah.
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And, and, and if it's a picture of him holding
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00:43:20.070 --> 00:43:23.179
a fish, move on. We haven't done this in a
662
00:43:23.219 --> 00:43:26.219
little while and we should, uh, I state on the
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Patreon site that we thank our Primatrons when I remember
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to do so, and I've remembered to do so today, Frankie.
665
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:34.000
So let's thank those people over there at Patreon.com forward
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00:43:34.019 --> 00:43:38.380
slash Primus Tracks who are supporting us and helping us
667
00:43:38.460 --> 00:43:40.360
out to keep the lights on and that sort of thing.
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And they hang out with us every other month. They
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participate in the bonus pods every other month. They're watching
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video of episodes. They're doing all kinds of goofy stuff
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over there. So let's thank these wonderful people, starting with
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our newest Prime Matron, Mr. Q Hefner.
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Q Hefner.
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Q Hefner, yeah. That's pretty good. Let's thank Andy and
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00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:10.039
Zach Hurd, as well as A Third Eye Shelob. We're
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also going to thank Hagai.
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Hagai.
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00:44:13.309 --> 00:44:17.510
It's just such a great name to say. Let's also
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thank Zane Dickens. Let's try that. Zane Dickens.
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Zane Dickens.
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It works. I can live with it.
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All right.
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Uh, we're also going to thank, uh, Brendan. Thank you
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for your long time support. Uh, Cremilis. Thank you, sir.
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Justin W. Thank you for your longterm support. Mr. Bradford Gatsington.
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The third. Wow. Has been a supporter for quite some time.
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Marcus may all as well. Uh, mine, Mr. Uh, somebody
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named mind grind. Frankie, who could that be?
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Wow.
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Mind grind.
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Hmm.
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Has been supporting us for quite some time. Harry, you're
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a good man, Harry. Robbie McCorry, thank you for your
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support as well. You've been supporting us for almost two years.
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Joe T. Zach M. Brian Bergy. Bergy! Audrey Myers, longtime supporter.
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Oh my gosh, Audrey, you've just passed the two-year mark.
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Good for you. Cam Covington. Mickey Waters. David.
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That's David. That's David.
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David in the UK. Lance Halterman. Tom Dastic. Brittany Ray.
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These are all longtime supporters who are well over.
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Two years of support.
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It's amazing.
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But these are veterans.
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They're veterans. Grizzled veterans.
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This is our list of veterans.
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That's right. They all have PTSD. Primatron trauma. So on
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and so forth. Wamola17. Our landed gentry aforementioned Edwin Allen
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Richards IV.
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Matt Ray.
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Matt Ray. Jordan Kahn, our resident fish expert. Matt Crakeley. Trish!
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Trish!
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Back of the envelope filter. Still on the Patreon. Eric
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in Australia. Brooks Delight, who hasn't taken our jobs for
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a while. Thank you, Brooks, for sparing us.
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Thank you, Brooks.
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Ryan Rashan. Joseph Pebler. Nick the Dutchie. All longtime supporters. Steppenraiser.
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Stephanie Wolfgang-King. Carl Reinsch, our spent poets expert and Twin
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Peaks expert, by the way. Yep. Mike Chillion. Hi, Mike.
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Sarah Markham. Jesse Calton. Porter Kropf. Porter! Anthony DelPrete.
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Go Bills.
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John Shreve.
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Mr.
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Johnny Perona. Juhani Coho. Stephen Stang. The Phantom Primatron. Still
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one of my favorite names on here. Simon in Australia,
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Mike Tuckerman, Simon, Skulligan Val, Chris Gentile, Kevin, Kevin and
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his legendary shirt.
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Is, question, is Simon our resident Panini expert?
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Oh, at this point, Simon is our resident Panini and
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thrift store expert. Absolutely.
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Panini ambassador.
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Well, he's got a fallback plan if his career falls
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apart then. He can just press Paninis all day long.
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We also have to thank Adrian Porter and El Patron
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Numero Uno.
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El Jefe.
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El Jefe. Wow, he's got a new title. Carlos Arizmendi.
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Thank you all so much for your support.
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Thank you, guys.
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Continue to support.
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Thank you so much.
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And if you're interested, patreon.com forward slash Primus Tracks. We'd
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love to have you over there. That's all I've got, Frankie.
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Sometimes I just picture Eric fishing in a little boat
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with the Sydney Opera House in the background.
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Yeah. It's a beautiful scene.
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Yes.
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Eric, if you're doing that, let us know. Thank you
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all for your support. Prime patrons. Thank you deeply.
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Yep.
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Absolutely. People of Earth, people of Earth who used to
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be people of Mars breathing CO2 as opposed to oxygen,
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thank you for your support as well. Aliens, people who
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had aliens of past lives from all over the universe,
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thank you for your support. We'll see you next time.
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You know what I'd like to do one day?
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Oh, please tell me.
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If Carl ever makes the trek to another New Year's Eve,
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I would love to catch him at a coffee shop
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and Have a waitress send a slice of cherry pie
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to him. And then I won't say anything. I'll just
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not stand up and leave.
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I hope Carl doesn't listen to this part. That's a
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great idea.
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I love it.
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All right. Later days.
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Willie Mays. Thank you.
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You're not going to believe your ears. Trust me. You're
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going to want to hear this. Mates, you found Primus Tracks. Congratulations. Hello, primates!
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You found Primus Tracks. Congratulations! There are so many places
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to find Primus Tracks. The podcast is a good start.
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You can also find us at Primus Tracks on Instagram
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and threads, and there's a Facebook page called Primus Tracks.
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And we have an email address. It's primustrackspod at gmail.com.
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I am Dr. Josh Bald, one of the hosts of
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Primus Tracks. He is coming to you from the 39th
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floor of Primus Tracks Towers, where he is receiving signals
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from underground on Mars. It is Frankie Berestein. Hi, Josh.
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Frankie!
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Frankie! It's Mars Day. We're going back to Mars on
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this podcast. It's as if the Claypool Lennon Delirium is
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obsessed with celestial bodies and planets within this solar system.
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Yep.
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We are talking Borska today from your South of Reality record.
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But first, we have miscellaneous debris. I don't know if
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you heard, Frankie, but Primus is playing New Year's Eve
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in the Bay again.
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I'm curious. I got tickets.
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December 30th and 31st at the Fox Theater.
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I must say, I love these double runs they've been
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doing as of lately.
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Yes, the two-night New Year's Eve experiences have been off-the-charts fun.
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It makes it really worthwhile, the trip.
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It really does make the trip worthwhile. If I'm traveling
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more than a few hours, I've got to see them
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two nights. Otherwise, I think, oh man, all that driving,
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I don't know. Or all that flying, depending on the locale.
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They've been doing that for a while now, and this
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year's seemingly is two straight evenings with Primus.
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Do you think we'll get new tracks?
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I hope it. And I suspect, because the theme is
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the Grizz, we'll certainly hear the Grizz. And I think
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they'll sneak one more new one in there.
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I'm so excited to hear the old Grizz live at last.
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Oh, that's right. Frankie, you didn't catch any of these
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2026 shows with the Grizz. So you will finally get
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to your live dosage of Grizz.
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Finally get my fix. Oh, man.
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It's a fun one live, but you don't need to
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take my word for it. You've seen all the videos.
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It's funny because, you know, I look at my song
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counts from time to time and Grizz is already up there.
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I've already gotten Grizz four times.
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Wow.
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So it's climbing the list rapidly and good on it.
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December 30th and 31st, Fox Theater, Oakland. Go get your tickets.
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What are you waiting for?
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See you there.
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Look for a really tall guy with glasses and short
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hair who's at the front of the line and is
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holding a pile of records that I dumped into his arms.
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Just prior to the show.
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And what he'll do is from, yeah, prior to the show.
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So you have to carry it all in. And what
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I understand you'll do is if somebody says hi to you,
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you'll autograph the top record on the stack and hand
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it to that person. Is that correct?
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Yeah.
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Okay, great. Frankie's giving away all kinds of stuff. Ask
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him about it at the shows. Now, we, as far
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as I know, Frankie, I do not have a past
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life on another planet in the solar system. Do you?
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Nope. Not that I believe.
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Today we're going to talk about somebody who purports to
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have such an experience. And that person is Boriska, who
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is the title of today's track from the South of
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Reality record. It's track four. Checks in at five minutes
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and 25 seconds. Credits are as follows. Sean Lennon on
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lead vocals, guitar, and Mellotron. Les Claypool on bass and
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backing vocals. And Paolo Baldi on drums.
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Yes.
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One of his three guest turns on drums on this record. Now, Boriska,
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I will say, I think it escaped me. the first
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time I heard this record. And what I mean by
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that is I listened to it, but it didn't stick.
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But after revisiting it, it has stuck. Tell us about
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this one, Frankie.
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Boriska was premiered in April 2019 in Toronto, Canada. And
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it was in heavy rotation throughout the year, leading up
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to the December 31st performance at the Warfield in San Francisco.
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It has not been performed since. When it was played live,
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it was a very faithful rendition to the studio version,
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not any jamming throughout the song, except, of course, for
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a semi-extended guitar intro by Sean Lennon, which was kind
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of standard for several Delirium tracks at the time, even
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since the previous record. Ah.
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Okay, so this one they play relatively straight.
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Relatively straightforward, yes.
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And how common was it on that 2019 tour?
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Extremely common.
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Okay, so that was a fixture.
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Yeah, it was played 45 times during 2019. Oh, man.
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Yeah, that's almost every night.
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Thirdly, it was pretty easy to catch if you had
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tickets to a 2019 show. It was even performed at festivals.
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So it was definitely a song they enjoyed playing live. Excellent.
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It does have some interesting parts, and of course we'll
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talk about that. But the lyrical subject of the song, Boriska,
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this seems right up your alley. Certainly me too. It's
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right in my range of interests, including the paranormal.
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Now I request that you say Boriska's full name.
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Ah, jeez, I was trying to avoid it because I
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don't want to trip over it and damage my credibility.
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I think it's Boriska... Kipriyanovich.
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That works for me, Boris Kipriyanovich, yeah. I'm going to
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westernize it and say Kipriyanovich.
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All right. All right. January 11, 1996, Russia.
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Is that when his Mars craft crashed, landed?
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Apparently.
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And he became human?
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Yes. Okay, yeah.
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So for those of you unfamiliar, Boris at the time,
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in the 1990s, was a young Russian boy who was
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very precocious, really sharp-minded. and claimed he was the reincarnation
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of some kind of life form on Mars from centuries ago,
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who was here on Earth now as a messenger.
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His parents claimed that he read newspapers when he was
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18 months old.
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Yes, that he was a child prodigy and was speaking
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and reading well before the average child, and then was
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able to, and was without any prompts or without any input,
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was speaking of history and culture and outer space and
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all these things that no person would know about unless
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they'd actually taken in that information. So the parents and
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these professors that they had spoken with, so the story goes,
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all claimed, no, there's no way this kid had access
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to this information that he's spouting and what he's espousing now. Which,
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of course, strains the credibility of the parents. Because if
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they're the ones making this claim and this kid is
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saying all this stuff, my eyes go right to the parents.
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And then I have questions. There actually is a documentary
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interview with Boriska by Project Camelot. It's on YouTube. What's
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really funny, though, Frankie, if you go to the Project
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Camelot website, first of all, It is a product of
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the early 2000s. It's still there in all its glory.
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But their stated mission is to give voice to the
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marginalized people who have some kind of– or whistleblowers who
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have some kind of story to tell that would be
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beyond the mainstream. And my understanding, too, is Project Camelot,
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the name of that production company, is a reference to
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some kind of military– anti-insurgency research or some kind of
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social engineering thing that the military was doing to keep
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people from rebelling. I can't remember the whole thing. Anyhow,
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some people from Project Camelot went to Russia and interviewed
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this guy, this guy, this kid, and his mother in
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the aughts. I was planning on playing clips because the
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video's on YouTube, the audio's available through the Project Camelot website.
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It is brutal.
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I couldn't find a clip worth playing. It's god-awful, Frankie.
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This interviewer sucks. She is so bad. She asked a
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pertinent question and then follows it up with, are there
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trees on Mars?
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What did Boriska say?
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He said no. What are you asking him that for?
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We know what's on Mars. Even in 2008, we know
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what's on Mars. All right. So the interviewer, she's terrible.
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The other thing you do, When you are interviewing somebody
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who does not speak your language, Frankie, is you ask
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them the question. So if I was interviewing you. and
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you were not an English speaker, I would look at
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you while asking the question in English. Your interpreter would
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then interpret it for you. You would answer in your
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preferred language. And then the interpreter would repeat it back
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to me in English. OK, but I'm addressing everything to you.
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I'd say, Frankie, tell me about blah.
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Right.
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So this this interviewer doesn't do that. This is one
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on one. She's talking to the mother and saying, ask
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him this. Tell him this. And she doesn't address him
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at all. It's so annoying.
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Wow.
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Come on now. It's very strange. The conversation. So the
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mom's interpreting. But there's three other people in the room.
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I don't know why, but they're there. And Boriska, by
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the way, to his credit, he's answering all the questions.
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But he's 11 or 12 years old at this point.
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And he's just slouched in a chair. He just looks
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like a regular kid. He's just slouched in a chair.
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And he's giving really short answers to things. And he's
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mumbling a lot. It's nothing like the articles that you
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can find on the internet that are written about him
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that he's very patient and polite and somewhat serene in
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his countenance and very sophisticated. I got none of that
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from him. I've been teaching 20 years, Frankie. I was like, oh,
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that's a 12-year-old kid. This is a regular 12-year-old kid
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who happens to be pretty sharp. My understanding is that mom,
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at the least, mom among other people, fed him all
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of this stuff. he was able to regurgitate it very
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convincingly and effectively because newsflash, kids are language sponges.
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Sean did arrive to the same conclusion at the beginning
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of the song.
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Yeah. Oh, Sean's not buying it. Yeah, in the lyrics,
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like right away. He's like, mom fed him this stuff. So,
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which is really interesting because in these Claypool Lennon Delirium songs,
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we're in outer space and we're examining possibilities and all
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these wondrous... celestial bodies and things happening. But this one is,
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and this kid's full of shit. That's the message. And yeah,
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he is, but it was spoon fed to him because
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kids are, they're language sponges. They're absorbing everything around them
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and their brains are growing at an astronomical rate. The
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language center of the brain is lighten up right away.
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If you can't read or write to communicate, you get
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really good at listening and speaking. And that's what little
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kids do.
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He's also referred to as an indigo child.
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Oh, we'll get to that. Yes.
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Jeez. That's a new age concept.
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Yes.
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Describing a child supposed to possess special or rare traits.
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And I think part of what the definition of an
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indigo child is based on is that kind of proficiency
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with language at a really early age. So, yeah. So
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some woo-woo person said, oh, your child is clearly an
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indigo child. I mean, if what they're saying is true
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about his language acquisition, he's a gifted child. The other
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thing about young kids, Frankie, is they're really good at
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mimicking adult behaviors. They're incredible at it. If they're around
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adults all the time, they'll talk and act like adults
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when they're three or four years old. But when they
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hit puberty... They don't give a shit. They lose their minds, right?
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So this 12-year-old kid, and he's got a little peach fuzz,
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all right? So puberty's hitting him hard. He's just sitting
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there slouching, going, oh, yeah, got to do this act again.
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He's just saying all the things that he's supposed to say,
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but he doesn't want to be there. It's pretty easy
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to tell. So this is clearly... Not at all legitimate,
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but it's pretty impressive that as a young kid, he
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was able to memorize all these details and speak of
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them in a convincing manner. And that's about all it is.
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It's a parlor trick. Also, if you watch the video
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and see Stills, he's drawing stuff on a whiteboard behind him.
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That kid can't draw for shit. If you're an ancient alien,
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I think you would have better artistic skills. Tell us
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more about an indigo child, Frankie. I want to know
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if you are one.
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I found seven common traits of indigo children.
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Let us have them because I'm going to go down
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the list and check the box if it applies to you.
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Okay. So it says, your curiosity has no end and
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you struggle to digest inhumanity.
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Yes, that describes you.
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You hate conventional systems and rules.
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Are you a rule follower, Frankie?
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Not at all.
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Oh, wow, you rebel. All right, that's two.
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You are an animal person with a deep connection to
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both flora and fauna.
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Well, I know you love dogs. Yeah.
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All right. You have existential despair and battle with depression.
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That, I don't know that applies to you. I've never
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seen sign one of that.
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You have experienced uncommon mystical encounters.
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You seen a ghost?
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I don't think so.
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Okay.
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Darn. You feel a deep need to achieve your potential.
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I'm going to say yes in podcasting.
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And number seven, finding your purpose in life is hard.
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These are all catch-all items that could apply to anyone
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at any time in their.
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Lives, right? Yeah. Seems like we are all Indigo AF.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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You are four-sevenths indigo child. Congratulations, you're more than half.
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That's fascinating. I also found an article, but it was
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17 signs you're an indigo child, so I'm glad you
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found one that was much more brief.
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That raises your chances of being one.
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Yeah, it is an interesting New Age concept that these
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indigo children are highly empathic, empathetic, and want to change
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the world in a positive way, that sort of thing.
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I can't really buy it, but it's just another thing
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to sell somebody.
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So we've established we are not indigo children, but Boriska is.
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That comes from that deep-seated need that he stated to
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warn humanity that if they continue on this path, there
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will be a nuclear holocaust. Because did you know, Frankie,
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thousands of years ago, there was a nuclear holocaust on Mars,
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and that's why everyone went below the surface?
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Apparently, yeah. Yeah.
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Apparently. This is straight from Boriska's mouth. He was also
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a spacecraft pilot thousands of years ago, and he came
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to Earth and hung out with the Egyptians, the ancient Egyptians.
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Incredible.
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And he claims that behind one of the Sphinx's ears
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is something that will change the course of humanity forever.
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Did you read that part? Did you hear about that?
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No, I didn't get that far.
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Well, I don't know about you, Franky. But if it's
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behind the Sphinx's ear, knowing humanity, that thing that's going
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to save humanity is in the British Museum. That's an
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imperialism joke. Thank you very much. For those unfamiliar, the British,
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when they colonized or conquered different parts of the world,
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took a whole bunch of stuff back with them to
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Britain and put it in the British Museum. I'm sure
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my disgust is shining through. Call me Fox Mulder because
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I want to believe, but I cannot believe this. By
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the way, Frankie, why is Fox Mulder's catchphrase, I want
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to believe?
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Because I think throughout the show, his beliefs were frequently
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tested either by skepticals or by the government itself, right?
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That's fair, yes. There was a run where he had
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a role reversal with Scully and became a skeptic.
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Yes.
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But I'm just thinking of nine-tenths of the episodes where
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six seconds in, he says, it's aliens! It's a monster! Okay,
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thank you for that. All right, we should probably talk
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about the song itself after that. Wow, Josh really hates
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this kid. All right, so with the song itself, Frankie,
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we open on some interesting vocals from Sean. A lot of,
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he's harmonizing with himself, but he's got a lot of
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effects on his voice. Really cool vocals throughout from both
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him and Les. They both are laying on the effects
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pretty heavily. And that's what I'm going to look for
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in our live cuts to see if they repeat those.
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Because they're doing a lot on their voices. And really,
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there's just a lot of cool parts to this song.
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Let's hear a little bit of it.
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Will he understand us?
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You can hear that main riff being previewed here.
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I didn't count it out, but that's an interesting time
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signature they're in there.
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So they give us this....
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Cool part, and that comes back around a few times.
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I'm going to forward to, I guess I'm going to
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call it the chorus, but it's kind of hard to
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tell because there's these verses, and they end the same
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way with this alien pilot and Indigo child sent from
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the red planet or the land of dust so he'd
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understand us. But that part, I really like this vocal
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delivery here. Does the delivery of those vocals remind you
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of another Delirium song?
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Which one comes to your mind?
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I'll play that part again. And you tell me if
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it fits. You bet.
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I hadn't made that connection, but I guess it kind
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of works. It's similar.
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It's not exactly the same. It just popped into my
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head while listening to it.
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After you shared that brief history on Boriska, now I
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can't stop thinking what it must... I mean, imagine... Sean
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selling this track to Les.
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Yeah, I would love to hear that discussion. Les is like,
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what the hell are you talking about? But that's, Les
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always says, Sean always has something like that up his sleeve.
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You know, he's a voracious reader and consumer of information.
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And so this would have come across, certainly would have
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attracted Sean's attention. And mine too. reading up on it,
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I was heavily interested to a point. So that must
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have been a fun conversation. Wait, who's this kid? What
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are you talking about? But as we know, in the
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Claypool Line and Delirium, for the most part, if you
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write it, you sing it. So all Les has to
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do is do the background vocals with that delivery of
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Indigo Child and such. So His delivery there was really
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interesting in that, what I'm calling the chorus. And then
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right after that, so right around a minute and a half,
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we get something cool.
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So that comes back around.
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And then we....
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Come right back into the next verse. So there's a
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nice song structure here. So we get our verses. We
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get a few breaks. I guess, will he understand it?
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Will they understand us? That question is, I guess you
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could say that's the theme. Because we hear, please understand us.
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Will he understand us a lot? That's really interesting. Because
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if we believe Boris is who he says he is,
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we might ask that question. I'm going to move ahead, Frankie,
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because I have a feeling that your favorite part of
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the song is in the second half. I'm going to
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play about a minute, and hopefully it encompasses your favorite
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part of the song.
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Okay.
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So some really great stuff happening there.
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How did you know that was my favorite part?
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I mean, I just had a feeling. I reached back
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into my past lives and drew on ancient wisdom.
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I mean, that's my favorite part, but I also love
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when Paolo hits those toms.
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Absolutely, yeah. Huge drum sound on this track. I think
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the odd time signature in the first half of the
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track is partially why they brought in Paolo, because it's tricky, and.
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So bring in a pro, why not? And so I
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played that part, Frankie, because one, I suspected it was
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your favorite part. I love the Mellotron line with the
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strings sounds that leads into the guitar solo. I think
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that is so well done. The guitar solo, possibly one
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of Lennon's best on these records. It sounds really great.
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It feels like, so the beat that Paolo's laying down,
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it's so pulsing. that to me, Frankie, it's the kind
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of rhythm that's difficult to keep on tempo. Because it
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feels like something that should be getting faster and faster
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and faster. And I think an immature or underdeveloped musician
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would allow that to happen. And they would just keep pushing, pushing,
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pushing the tempo until they're at breakneck speed. You could
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do that on this song if you wanted to, and
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I think it would sound great. If you were doing
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it consciously, but I think unconsciously, if I were playing
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that drum part, I think I would just unconsciously start
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going faster and faster because it just has that feeling
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like it's supposed to be picking up steam, but they
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keep it constant. I don't know if that entered your
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head at all when listening to this.
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Now that you mention it, yeah, makes sense.
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Like it feels like it would speed up, speed up
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and then be careening out of control by the end.
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And it would have that kind of car crash ending.
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Or spacecraft crash ending, actually.
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I think another element that makes the song stand out
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are the strings emulated by the keyboard.
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Yeah, not just on that one sting leading up to
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the guitar solo, but they're used throughout. It does make
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me wonder, because we mentioned this, or I mentioned that
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at that Frog Brigade show, Les had said that there
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was talk about doing either Primus in a string quartet
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or Claypool in a string quartet, something like that. Those
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kind of Mellotron sounds make me wonder if they could
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pull it off.
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Right?
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You get a string quartet to do those parts, it'll
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sound really cool.
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At a smaller scale, we could say he has kind
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of already had some experience with that. If you listen
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to those Barrington Hall performances from vintage Frog Brigade shows.
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Absolutely.
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Ben Barnes on violin.
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Thank you, Ben Barnes, yes.
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And Sam Bass on cello. Right. Yeah.
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We had that, we had the Fungi Ensemble, so there's,
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you know, he's treaded on that ground, just hasn't fully
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gone for it. But we could make a set list
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for him. Let's do that. We'll make a set list
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for Les Claypool and a string quartet and email it
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to him. He'll probably go out on tour right away. So,
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you know, I was kind of surprised coming back to
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this song. really like how all of these musical elements
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work together and less is backing vocals. Once again, he's
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finding different voicings for things. Uh, the way he says
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Indigo Child is really funny to me. Um, and Sean
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on lead vocals makes, makes sense. He's delivering them very nicely.
445
00:27:49.259 --> 00:27:51.000
It's a Sean track after all.
446
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.119
It is a Sean track after all. And it's, it's
447
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:57.279
very musical. Um, and as, as we've stated many a time,
448
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.710
and I know you love it when we repeat ourselves, Um,
449
00:28:01.029 --> 00:28:04.769
on these Sean fronted tracks or written tracks, you can
450
00:28:04.809 --> 00:28:06.750
hear less and he's audible and you know, it's him,
451
00:28:07.150 --> 00:28:14.049
but he's not as Claypoolian, not completely right. He's, he's, uh,
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00:28:14.349 --> 00:28:16.289
dialing it back a bit, but when they're his tracks,
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00:28:16.970 --> 00:28:17.710
he's doing his thing.
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00:28:18.930 --> 00:28:22.349
This, this particular song, I think it's even a pretty
455
00:28:23.069 --> 00:28:28.730
understated bass wise, which is a complete anomaly for Les Claypool,
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00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:29.130
of course.
457
00:28:29.549 --> 00:28:33.910
Yeah, it is one of his more laid-back tracks as
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00:28:34.569 --> 00:28:39.000
far as bass lines go, most assuredly. But it's an
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00:28:39.019 --> 00:28:40.740
interesting one, and I'll go back to it. The subject
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00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:45.119
matter is interesting. The lyrics are good. The melodies are great.
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00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:50.650
The music sounds good. It picks up in that last
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two and a half minutes and takes you somewhere. It's
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a cool song.
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00:28:54.509 --> 00:29:00.180
It also kind of stands out That's an unusual song
465
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:05.740
because it's myth tempo, right? It's not a ballad, it's
466
00:29:05.779 --> 00:29:10.079
not that slow, but it's not as upbeat or fast-paced
467
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:13.819
as other songs on the album. It's somewhere in the middle.
468
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:17.609
Yeah, and not to jump the timeline too much, but
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00:29:17.829 --> 00:29:19.829
on the Golden Egg album, there are a lot of
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00:29:19.910 --> 00:29:23.630
songs that are similar to this one in terms of
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tempo and predominance of... Mellotron slash keyboard. So it could,
472
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in a way, not that we knew at the time,
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but it could serve as a preview for that record.
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00:29:37.150 --> 00:29:39.170
Let's talk those lyrics. I mean, we know the story
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00:29:39.190 --> 00:29:41.920
of Boriska for Chronicles. out loud. And as I noted,
476
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.730
and I wrote it in my notebook, Sean isn't buying it.
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00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.579
So that I mentioned it earlier in this first verse,
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he says, Boriska did it all for his mother. Once again,
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parent was probably feeding this to him. And he was
480
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a good little kid and said, yes, in a past life,
481
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I was a Martian. And I am here to tell
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00:30:00.819 --> 00:30:04.960
you now that we had a nuclear war. We had
483
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to go underground. And now we're here. So you guys
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don't suffer the same fate. He just wanted to please
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00:30:11.890 --> 00:30:14.710
her desperately. Could never disappoint her. He told her what
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00:30:14.750 --> 00:30:18.329
she wanted to believe. That part that I played, the quasi-chorus,
487
00:30:18.390 --> 00:30:22.710
this alien pilot and indigo child, we discussed those two
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aspects of it. So they're right there in the lyrics.
489
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Sent from the Red Planet so he'd understand it. That's
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00:30:27.849 --> 00:30:30.740
a nice rhyme. Red Planet, understand it. I can dig it.
491
00:30:31.230 --> 00:30:34.490
And then the question, will he understand it? So verse two,
492
00:30:35.069 --> 00:30:37.490
he never breaks under pressure. And you have to give
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him credit for that. He keeps it up. He keeps
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up the act. I wonder if he still does. I
495
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.799
really hope not. Because doing that for 25 years has
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to be tiresome. Sean continues, his words are all measured strategically.
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Boriska is indeed very clever to make such interstellar fantasies.
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00:30:53.990 --> 00:30:57.369
And I would imagine after a certain point, I think
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he was improvising a bit and making up his own
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00:31:00.990 --> 00:31:04.089
stuff to go with what the Parameter's mom sent forward
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00:31:04.450 --> 00:31:07.250
or parent or whoever was feeding him this stuff. He continues,
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00:31:07.309 --> 00:31:10.490
what befell Atlantis, he says soon will happen to us.
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00:31:10.750 --> 00:31:13.450
That's a bit of a stretch for a rhyme, but
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00:31:13.470 --> 00:31:16.390
I'll take it. If we fall off the cosmic bandwagon,
505
00:31:17.130 --> 00:31:19.779
then that's the part about there was a nuclear holocaust
506
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:21.539
on Mars and there will be one here too if
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we keep up what we're doing.
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00:31:24.410 --> 00:31:29.029
Historians largely consider Atlantis a literary device and a philosophical
509
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allegory rather than an actual place. Plato used the story
510
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as a cautionary tale about human greed, political corruption, and
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the dangers of excessive pride.
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00:31:40.109 --> 00:31:44.690
Absolutely. It is mythical 100%. Have you heard of Lemuria?
513
00:31:46.069 --> 00:31:48.390
Lemuria? As in Lemur, the sea?
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00:31:49.190 --> 00:31:50.950
No, it's another lost continent.
515
00:31:51.910 --> 00:31:52.250
Oh, no.
516
00:31:52.710 --> 00:31:58.710
Okay, so... A bunch of pseudoscientists were positing that there
517
00:31:58.750 --> 00:32:05.579
was this lost continent called Lemuria. It was co-opted by, interestingly,
518
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:11.859
co-opted by Madame Blavatsky. And she incorporated that into theosophy.
519
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:15.240
So Lemuria plays a part in that, this mythical lost land.
520
00:32:16.289 --> 00:32:18.410
Skimmed it. I don't remember why it was so important,
521
00:32:18.450 --> 00:32:20.130
but it had to do with the origins of the
522
00:32:20.170 --> 00:32:24.109
human species or something like that. Madame Blavatsky, I guess, thought, oh,
523
00:32:24.130 --> 00:32:25.369
that's a good idea. I'm going to use that in
524
00:32:25.430 --> 00:32:31.460
Theosophy 2. Another connection to the occult. So I really
525
00:32:31.500 --> 00:32:33.819
like these lyrics. And I stated this earlier about the lyrics,
526
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:36.599
that question, will they understand us? So sent from the
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00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.539
land of dust so they'd understand us. Will they understand us?
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00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:44.369
Please understand us. And will he understand us? So there's
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00:32:44.410 --> 00:32:48.009
that seed of doubt that even if alien beings came here,
530
00:32:48.470 --> 00:32:52.210
they would have no idea what we're on about. We
531
00:32:52.390 --> 00:33:02.400
have talked about it enough. If you would like your
532
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.480
opinion on the track up for discussion read right here
533
00:33:04.500 --> 00:33:05.839
on the pod, all you have to do is go
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00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:10.299
to patreon.com forward slash Primus Tracks. Of the many tiers
535
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.920
of support over there, and we have a wonderful cast
536
00:33:12.980 --> 00:33:19.269
of supporters, the constant is Primates Takes. We're going to start.
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I've got three thoughtful responses, Frankie. And the first one
538
00:33:23.890 --> 00:33:27.730
is from the resident curmudgeon. It's Eric in Australia who says,
539
00:33:28.269 --> 00:33:31.470
this track has really drawn me in more in recent times.
540
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.779
It's very shiner and I have no explanation for my
541
00:33:34.900 --> 00:33:38.759
love-hate relationship with his music. Probably equal second place on
542
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.559
the album with Blood and Rockets for me. My favorite
543
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.299
track will be revealed in due time.
544
00:33:44.769 --> 00:33:48.730
Sounds like our fellow Eric is quite a fan of
545
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:49.720
the character studies.
546
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.099
Ah, yeah. Parsons and Boriska. They do go hand in
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00:33:54.140 --> 00:33:57.220
hand as far as character studies go. Great point, Frankie.
548
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.859
Yeah, I think I know what his favorite track will be.
549
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:02.849
I can't wait for the reveal. It's going to be
550
00:34:02.869 --> 00:34:08.969
a great time. Our landed gentry Edwin Allen Richards IV says,
551
00:34:09.190 --> 00:34:11.190
This song didn't do much for me at first listen.
552
00:34:11.449 --> 00:34:14.039
I am someone that listens to albums in full. mostly
553
00:34:14.099 --> 00:34:16.000
on long road trips, and I found the more I
554
00:34:16.059 --> 00:34:18.719
heard Boriska, the more I grew to really love and
555
00:34:18.739 --> 00:34:21.179
appreciate it. It just clicked with me one day, and
556
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.010
now it's a top track on the album for me.
557
00:34:23.340 --> 00:34:24.820
The first half is a lot of fun to sing
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00:34:24.860 --> 00:34:30.610
along with, and the back half instrumental is transcendent. Thank you, Edwin.
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00:34:31.349 --> 00:34:35.050
I can understand why it would be kind of a
560
00:34:35.090 --> 00:34:40.050
slow burner, but I must say, at least personally, I
561
00:34:40.130 --> 00:34:42.170
enjoyed it since the very first listen.
562
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:43.500
Ah, very good.
563
00:34:43.539 --> 00:34:46.300
I just thought, wow, this is a cool track for sure.
564
00:34:47.219 --> 00:34:51.889
And welcome to Patreon, Mr. Q Hefner, our newest primatron,
565
00:34:52.809 --> 00:34:55.550
who says, like most of the songs on this album,
566
00:34:55.869 --> 00:34:57.949
I had no clue about the stories till I heard
567
00:34:58.030 --> 00:35:00.309
the songs. That being said, the rabbit hole I went
568
00:35:00.349 --> 00:35:04.530
down learning about the indigo children was wild. This is
569
00:35:04.570 --> 00:35:09.300
probably my third favorite track on the album. Interesting, Frankie.
570
00:35:09.340 --> 00:35:12.119
So our three primates' takes all hold this one in
571
00:35:12.139 --> 00:35:14.980
really high regard. This is a surprise to me. This
572
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.639
is why now I wish we had ranked the tracks
573
00:35:17.780 --> 00:35:22.510
one through nine before we discussed the record, so that
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00:35:22.530 --> 00:35:27.789
we could compare our lists to the primatrons and the primates.
575
00:35:28.690 --> 00:35:33.619
I do wonder what Boriska would make of the track
576
00:35:33.860 --> 00:35:34.829
if he ever heard it.
577
00:35:35.579 --> 00:35:38.980
That's a great question. Has he heard it? We don't know.
578
00:35:39.139 --> 00:35:41.760
Is there a Russian version of South of Reality?
579
00:35:41.780 --> 00:35:45.519
A Russian pressing? Not that I recall, no.
580
00:35:45.579 --> 00:35:47.599
Okay, so there may not be a Russian pressing that
581
00:35:47.619 --> 00:35:50.099
made its way over there. I hope Sean sent him
582
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.019
a signed copy of The Golden Egg, because there is
583
00:35:52.059 --> 00:35:54.780
a Russian pressing of that one. Yes. All right, I
584
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.420
hope that made it to Borska. With a little note
585
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:02.449
that just said, sorry, SL. Now it really is time
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00:36:02.489 --> 00:36:03.929
for Frankie's favorite part of the show.
587
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:13.840
Frankie, we're going back to a couple familiar places today.
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00:36:13.860 --> 00:36:14.599
First.
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00:36:38.610 --> 00:36:41.070
We're going to go to the Capitol Theater in New York,
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New York, July 30, 2019. I always think you're going
591
00:36:48.150 --> 00:36:51.630
to wait until I'm finished introducing it so you have
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00:36:52.210 --> 00:36:54.250
the full range of sound to yourself.
593
00:36:54.530 --> 00:36:58.769
I prefer if it's below your voice.
594
00:37:00.389 --> 00:37:02.300
And it trips me up every single time because I
595
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:17.039
want to hear it. Ooh, that pachyderm's way up there.
596
00:37:17.059 --> 00:38:30.980
It's nasal. That's some really, really fine guitar work by
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00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:31.659
Sean there.
598
00:38:31.900 --> 00:38:34.739
It's very nice and it's loud and clear front and center.
599
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:35.019
Yeah.
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00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:37.559
What I like about this and of course the videos
601
00:38:37.619 --> 00:38:41.960
on YouTube in that first part before it really kicks in,
602
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.510
Drow's playing with one hand and he's kind of dancing
603
00:38:45.550 --> 00:38:47.949
around playing with one hand and the other arm's just
604
00:38:48.010 --> 00:38:50.170
hanging and he looks really cool.
605
00:38:50.630 --> 00:38:52.530
Yeah.
606
00:38:52.630 --> 00:38:55.630
Look, Ma, one hand. I hesitate to say this because
607
00:38:55.670 --> 00:38:57.820
I know what's going to happen. Our next live cut
608
00:38:58.949 --> 00:39:05.050
is from another familiar place. Atlanta, Georgia, 2019. So the
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effect is.
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On the mic.
611
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:13.679
Oh, man.
612
00:39:20.110 --> 00:39:21.210
Oh, man.
613
00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:29.480
Well that sounded nice. I think we're getting more embellishments
614
00:40:29.500 --> 00:40:58.980
on the bass there. Oh, that sounds a lot more
615
00:40:59.099 --> 00:41:01.940
sour live. I like that. That sounds great.
616
00:41:03.099 --> 00:41:06.179
Sounds like a really fun song to learn for a drummer.
617
00:41:06.820 --> 00:41:10.179
Yeah, there's some fun stuff to do there. Really good.
618
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:12.469
You get an odd time signature. You get a lot
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of different rhythm changes. And you just have to stay
620
00:41:17.530 --> 00:41:20.150
on tempo for that part that we just played. You
621
00:41:20.190 --> 00:41:23.389
can't push it. You'll get in trouble. But it is
622
00:41:23.469 --> 00:41:26.719
one of those songs that it's swayable, but it's not
623
00:41:27.090 --> 00:41:30.940
I wouldn't call it eminently danceable. So the crowd, and it's,
624
00:41:31.900 --> 00:41:33.940
you know, it's April in Atlanta, so it's probably a
625
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:34.639
really nice day.
626
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:36.059
They don't know what to do.
627
00:41:36.300 --> 00:41:38.320
They're not sure what to do. Yeah, I think they're
628
00:41:38.340 --> 00:41:42.949
a bit confused. But I mean, it's 420 Fest, so
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they're probably confused for a reason.
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00:41:46.389 --> 00:41:51.670
Where would you place Boriska in the album cover artwork?
631
00:41:52.789 --> 00:41:54.730
Well, Frankie, I'm going to grab my vinyl copy of
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00:41:54.829 --> 00:41:55.550
South of Reality.
633
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:56.840
Yeah, let's inspect it.
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00:41:57.059 --> 00:41:59.280
And we're going to inspect it closely. You know, you
635
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.510
pointed out the amethyst and the flea and the compass,
636
00:42:02.550 --> 00:42:06.670
of course. Even though there's water, or what we think
637
00:42:06.750 --> 00:42:08.309
is a body of water here.
638
00:42:08.809 --> 00:42:09.550
For little fishes.
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00:42:10.030 --> 00:42:14.280
For little fishes. It also looks like a barren planet landscape.
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00:42:14.340 --> 00:42:20.019
So one could argue, and we know that thanks to
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00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.940
the rovers, that there's evidence that there once was water
642
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:27.309
on Mars. So this could be Mars... Thousands, if not
643
00:42:27.349 --> 00:42:30.190
millions of years ago when there was water. This could
644
00:42:30.230 --> 00:42:32.110
be when Boriska was living on Mars.
645
00:42:33.789 --> 00:42:34.570
Very well could be.
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00:42:34.889 --> 00:42:39.039
And I would imagine Mars, that might be, that could
647
00:42:39.059 --> 00:42:42.619
be Deimos and Phobos there. The two little moons and
648
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.260
then that giant planet because Mars is so far away.
649
00:42:45.300 --> 00:42:50.000
That could be Mars' neighboring planet just looming there in
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00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:55.739
the sky. I don't know. Could be. That's my guess.
651
00:42:55.900 --> 00:42:59.719
I don't, I don't see anything, uh, anything else that would.
652
00:42:59.739 --> 00:43:01.099
I'm buying it. All right.
653
00:43:01.420 --> 00:43:02.619
We did it. We cracked the code.
654
00:43:02.900 --> 00:43:03.039
Yeah.
655
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:04.760
Yesuda, we're onto you.
656
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.309
Yeah.
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00:43:09.150 --> 00:43:12.710
Anyway, Boriska, you've been tracked. Next time, Frankie, swipe right.
658
00:43:13.289 --> 00:43:13.969
That's my advice to you.
659
00:43:14.349 --> 00:43:17.650
Read the bio carefully. Yeah.
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00:43:18.070 --> 00:43:20.010
And, and, and if it's a picture of him holding
661
00:43:20.070 --> 00:43:23.179
a fish, move on. We haven't done this in a
662
00:43:23.219 --> 00:43:26.219
little while and we should, uh, I state on the
663
00:43:26.260 --> 00:43:29.019
Patreon site that we thank our Primatrons when I remember
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to do so, and I've remembered to do so today, Frankie.
665
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:34.000
So let's thank those people over there at Patreon.com forward
666
00:43:34.019 --> 00:43:38.380
slash Primus Tracks who are supporting us and helping us
667
00:43:38.460 --> 00:43:40.360
out to keep the lights on and that sort of thing.
668
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:45.360
And they hang out with us every other month. They
669
00:43:45.699 --> 00:43:48.739
participate in the bonus pods every other month. They're watching
670
00:43:48.780 --> 00:43:51.800
video of episodes. They're doing all kinds of goofy stuff
671
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.530
over there. So let's thank these wonderful people, starting with
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00:43:54.570 --> 00:43:57.449
our newest Prime Matron, Mr. Q Hefner.
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Q Hefner.
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00:43:58.699 --> 00:44:04.860
Q Hefner, yeah. That's pretty good. Let's thank Andy and
675
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:10.039
Zach Hurd, as well as A Third Eye Shelob. We're
676
00:44:10.059 --> 00:44:11.719
also going to thank Hagai.
677
00:44:11.739 --> 00:44:13.289
Hagai.
678
00:44:13.309 --> 00:44:17.510
It's just such a great name to say. Let's also
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00:44:17.610 --> 00:44:21.369
thank Zane Dickens. Let's try that. Zane Dickens.
680
00:44:21.690 --> 00:44:22.250
Zane Dickens.
681
00:44:22.590 --> 00:44:23.670
It works. I can live with it.
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All right.
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Uh, we're also going to thank, uh, Brendan. Thank you
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for your long time support. Uh, Cremilis. Thank you, sir.
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Justin W. Thank you for your longterm support. Mr. Bradford Gatsington.
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The third. Wow. Has been a supporter for quite some time.
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Marcus may all as well. Uh, mine, Mr. Uh, somebody
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named mind grind. Frankie, who could that be?
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Wow.
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Mind grind.
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Hmm.
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Has been supporting us for quite some time. Harry, you're
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a good man, Harry. Robbie McCorry, thank you for your
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support as well. You've been supporting us for almost two years.
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Joe T. Zach M. Brian Bergy. Bergy! Audrey Myers, longtime supporter.
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Oh my gosh, Audrey, you've just passed the two-year mark.
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Good for you. Cam Covington. Mickey Waters. David.
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That's David. That's David.
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David in the UK. Lance Halterman. Tom Dastic. Brittany Ray.
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These are all longtime supporters who are well over.
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Two years of support.
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It's amazing.
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But these are veterans.
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They're veterans. Grizzled veterans.
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This is our list of veterans.
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That's right. They all have PTSD. Primatron trauma. So on
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and so forth. Wamola17. Our landed gentry aforementioned Edwin Allen
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Richards IV.
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Matt Ray.
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Matt Ray. Jordan Kahn, our resident fish expert. Matt Crakeley. Trish!
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Trish!
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Back of the envelope filter. Still on the Patreon. Eric
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in Australia. Brooks Delight, who hasn't taken our jobs for
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a while. Thank you, Brooks, for sparing us.
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Thank you, Brooks.
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Ryan Rashan. Joseph Pebler. Nick the Dutchie. All longtime supporters. Steppenraiser.
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Stephanie Wolfgang-King. Carl Reinsch, our spent poets expert and Twin
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Peaks expert, by the way. Yep. Mike Chillion. Hi, Mike.
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Sarah Markham. Jesse Calton. Porter Kropf. Porter! Anthony DelPrete.
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Go Bills.
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John Shreve.
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Mr.
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Johnny Perona. Juhani Coho. Stephen Stang. The Phantom Primatron. Still
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one of my favorite names on here. Simon in Australia,
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Mike Tuckerman, Simon, Skulligan Val, Chris Gentile, Kevin, Kevin and
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his legendary shirt.
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Is, question, is Simon our resident Panini expert?
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Oh, at this point, Simon is our resident Panini and
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thrift store expert. Absolutely.
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Panini ambassador.
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Well, he's got a fallback plan if his career falls
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apart then. He can just press Paninis all day long.
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We also have to thank Adrian Porter and El Patron
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Numero Uno.
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El Jefe.
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El Jefe. Wow, he's got a new title. Carlos Arizmendi.
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Thank you all so much for your support.
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Thank you, guys.
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Continue to support.
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Thank you so much.
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And if you're interested, patreon.com forward slash Primus Tracks. We'd
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love to have you over there. That's all I've got, Frankie.
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Sometimes I just picture Eric fishing in a little boat
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with the Sydney Opera House in the background.
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Yeah. It's a beautiful scene.
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Yes.
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Eric, if you're doing that, let us know. Thank you
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all for your support. Prime patrons. Thank you deeply.
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Yep.
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Absolutely. People of Earth, people of Earth who used to
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be people of Mars breathing CO2 as opposed to oxygen,
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thank you for your support as well. Aliens, people who
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had aliens of past lives from all over the universe,
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thank you for your support. We'll see you next time.
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You know what I'd like to do one day?
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Oh, please tell me.
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If Carl ever makes the trek to another New Year's Eve,
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I would love to catch him at a coffee shop
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and Have a waitress send a slice of cherry pie
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to him. And then I won't say anything. I'll just
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not stand up and leave.
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I hope Carl doesn't listen to this part. That's a
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great idea.
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I love it.
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All right. Later days.
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Willie Mays. Thank you.