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Most organizations have a training system. Almost none of them have a knowledge system.
Pete Mastin has spent his career at the intersection of technology and organizational learning — from the dot-com era through two company exits, including the sale of Jalochia. In 2020, he co-founded Learnie, a mobile-first community microlearning platform built specifically for the people most organizations train the least: frontline workers.
In this episode of Operating Discipline, Pete makes the case that most training doesn't actually change behavior — and that CEOs who accept compliance participation rates as evidence that training is working are measuring the wrong thing entirely. The conversation gets into what happens when the person who holds twenty-five years of institutional knowledge eventually walks out the door, why the knowledge that makes a business special is almost never captured in any training system, and why the gap between what leaders think training is doing and what it's actually doing is one of the most expensive blind spots in a scaling organization.
Pete also challenges the assumption that fixing this requires a technology overhaul. It requires a decision: do you believe training can change your business? If you do, your expectations should be higher than they are.
This is a direct conversation about what knowledge capture actually requires — and what it costs when you keep treating it as an HR function instead of an operating discipline.
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Operating Discipline is the podcast for leaders who are ready to take a hard look at how their organisations actually work — not just what their strategy says on paper. Hosted by Terri D. Wilson, each episode is a candid conversation with founders, executives, and operators about how decisions get made, how accountability is held, and how work really flows inside growing businesses.
Terri brings over 30 years of executive and entrepreneurial experience to every conversation. She's worked across industries helping leaders build the systems, structures, and cultures that allow businesses to scale without breaking — and she knows that most organisations don't struggle because of bad strategy. They struggle because of how they actually operate day to day.
Whether you're navigating rapid growth, building a team you can trust, or trying to close the gap between the business you want and the one you're running, Operating Discipline gives you the frameworks and real-world examples to lead with intention. This is the show for leaders who are serious about execution, not just ideas.
