Pebble Beach Highlights and New Gear: Let’s Talk Wheels Weekly

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Let it ride.
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It's time to buckle up for this week's Let's Talk
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Wheels with Mike Herzing and Jeremy Birenbaum.
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More screens have gone dark. Well, it took 10 years, but they finally got an
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upgrade. Famous brake suppliers moving on to trucks, and this is going to surprise
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you. That's kind of cool. Speaking of trucks, there may be a new brand
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on the market soon, and I'm excited about this in a midsize truck. And we're
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reviewing a cool Infiniti, and we went to a reunion of classic road racers,
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and we all talked about how fast we were. It was kind of fun.
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And last but not least, we're gonna get our classic car mailbag of
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questions emailed to mike@letstalkwheels.com. Got a
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lot of questions. A lot of— and actually, they're very good questions this week.
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Since we've got so much to talk about, we better get started. Welcome to the
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latest episode of Let's Talk Wheels. I'm Mike Herzing, and every week we bring you
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automotive and powersports news, interviews, car reviews, and everything about the classic
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car culture, courtesy of my co-host, Mr. Classic Car, the California
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Kid, Mr. Jeremy Barenbaum. Let's bring him on right now. Come on,
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buddy. Hey, I bet every year when you guys talk about how fast you were,
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you get about 10 miles an hour faster. No, actually, I haven't seen most of
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these guys in 25 years. So 30 years. So no, it's— this
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is a— this is a first time we've gotten together
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in since the '80s. I mean, it's amazing.
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So it was pretty interesting, I have to admit. So, um, uh, we might
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as well talk about that. Got together with a bunch of the guys that,
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that I raced with from the Central Road Racing Club, and, um,
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which is the Midwest— I mean, the, the Southwest here, uh,
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was, uh all the, um, the local road racers
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back in the '70s and '80s, you know, and people like Kevin Swantz,
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world champion, Freddie Spencer, world champion, those kind of guys,
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uh, came through here and, uh, did a lot of stuff here and, um,
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made it through. And, uh, you know, a lot of us didn't quite
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make it to world champion. I didn't. I know a lot of guys didn't make
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it, but a lot of us did pretty good. And we, uh, ran a lot
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of local stuff. I did it for 15 years. And a lot of guys did
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it for— not many people did it for longer than me. A lot of people
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did it for shorter than me, but got a chance to meet up here at,
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at a racetrack up in San Marcos. And they had
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a track day and a fundraiser for one of the younger guys that was— that's
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running up in Europe in the MotoGP world. And it was fun.
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We had a really good time and spent the day on Saturday catching
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up with people I hadn't seen since the '80s. And,
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um, it was really a good time. So now I want
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to sit there and, uh, work out a little bit and get some set of
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leathers and maybe do some track days. It'll be, it'll be fun. Maybe that's
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for my goal for next year. So what do you think? That's pretty nice.
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Yeah, it'll be fun. It's nice. This weekend, this last weekend, uh,
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you know, was Pebble Beach. And yes, we're going to talk about that later in
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the show. Yeah, that's one of my— it's one of our stories.
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Everybody in the car world left LA and I was here and it
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was great. The roads were open.
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All the BS that happens in LA on the weekends when all the car
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aficionados are out and around, it was nice that everyone was gone for a
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weekend, I have to say. Well, that's awesome, man. I'll tell you
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what. Well, we're getting short on time, so let's start our— get started with the
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news and notes segment and talk about more Um,
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instrument clusters are going dark and cameras and stuff going dark.
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What is up with that? More of them this year. Yeah, I mean, we've been
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talking about cameras and center screens for a while that have been going dark.
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This is the first time I've, I've heard of an instrument cluster going dark.
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Um, half a million Camrys are being recalled, uh, because,
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uh, their speedometer, uh, turn signals, any warning buzzers,
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hazard lights, all black. Can't see anything. Surprisingly, the car still drives,
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um, but Uh, if you own a Toyota Camry
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that was built in, uh, '25 or '26,
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um, you may be getting a notification from your, uh,
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from Toyota that your car's being recalled. So, uh, keep an
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eye out for that. If you're already having the issue, um,
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be happy to know that a fix is on its way. They're going to do,
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um, an update to the software system. Believe it or
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not. How about that? We always talk about it. Surprise, surprise. And then we're good
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to go. I mean, yeah. We keep talking about
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that every week. Maybe there'll be a week that we don't do a
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rearview camera or instrument cluster that's going dark. Who knows?
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Maybe there'll be one. I haven't seen— we haven't had one in a long time.
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Maybe. All right. Chevy Express and GMC
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Savannah vans. I mean, these are vans that they use
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mainly right now. They're service vans. You know, you'll see 'em for fleets,
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plumbing vans and electrical vans and things like that.
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They've been making this same van since 1987.
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And you know what? I think it was so bulletproof because they haven't updated it.
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Yes. You know, to, to today's standards, but slowly they
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are. I guess the '27 version will be for the second time
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available with a 7-inch infotainment system,
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GM's Infotainment 3. Uh, which will be a touchscreen.
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Uh, I think it's only available for, for a year before they're updating
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the whole, uh, Express and Savannah lineup.
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Oh no. Um, you know, it, it just shows like
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even the best are getting touched and, and it's,
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it's slowly, uh, I'd say they're getting smarter,
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but they're not getting smarter. I think they're, they're, you know,
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there's nothing wrong with these vans. These vans hold up. These things are like beasts.
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I mean, they'll be— but the reason they hold up and they go 300
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and you see people just loving them is because they haven't been updated
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with all this stupid ticky-tack electric stuff that's gonna bring
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it down. Yeah, I've seen them with 350,000 to 400,000
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miles that just are all original. I mean, uh,
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I know one of my guys has a— one of my buddies has a
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shop, and there's a plumbing truck that comes in here with like 405,000,
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and everything is original, and it is so worn
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out, uh, but The guy keeps it so proud of it. He's so proud of
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it. Yeah. They keep them for service guys,
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keep their trucks in very good condition. One, because it's their livelihood and
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so it has to run good. And 2, 400,000 miles,
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they sit in that truck all day long and they don't want to sit
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in a pigsty. They want to sit in a nice truck. So they keep them
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very clean. And I think that really helps these trucks,
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you know, really lay down the miles and they feel loved. You know, that's the
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big deal. Yeah, I mean, these trucks are loved, uh, but,
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uh, yeah, good for GM. It's a great truck, it really is, and,
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uh, they love them. By the way, if you just tuned in, Mike Hirsing and
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Jeremy Birenbaum, this is Let's Talk Wheels, and, uh, we were just talking about some,
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uh, long-in-the-tooth vans. All right, so for next, Brembo.
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They've been building brakes, high-performance brakes, for a long time, and now they're going to
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get in the truck business. How about that?
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Yeah, I mean, you see them on light-duty trucks and small
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trucks. They make brakes for them, but now you're starting
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to see them on electric trucks as well
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as heavy-duty trucks. So that's, that's pretty cool,
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especially, you know, for people that are
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towing and carrying actual heavy load and they want
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to upgrade their braking system, upgrade their pads to something that's going to last
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a little longer. Brembo says that a traditional pad
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may last around 30,000-45,000 miles on a gentle driver,
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but their new Boldka pads are designed to last 70,000
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miles. Wow. So let's put them to the test, I think. Yeah, I think that'd
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be great. Now you should put them on your truck. Things how, you know,
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a lot of times these work trucks, these service trucks and things like that,
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they're, they're carrying 2,000 pounds worth of gear in the back of their truck,
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you know, plumbing stuff or electrical stuff. And, uh, this stuff on
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brakes and tires, isn't it? It really is. Oh, for sure. And that's a
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very nice thing to have, a good set of brakes. So,
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uh, that's— speaking of that, new midsize truck may
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come onto the market. They're, they're going to build them. And, um, they've had
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these things show up a couple times from Mahindra coming out
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of India. They build great tractors. They build some neat vehicles called
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the Roxor, off-road vehicles. And I hope
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they're going to bring these trucks in. What do you think? Yeah, I think it'll
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be a little while before we see them in the US market, but globally it'll
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be much quicker. And we'll see how they do compared to the Toyota
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Hilux because that is their biggest competitor
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and the truck is about $13,000 less on
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average. So we're talking, I mean, yeah,
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that's a big chunk of change for people having to make a decision on
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a new truck. So I think just on price alone, they may sway a
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decent amount of buyers. Well, yeah. No kidding, they are really,
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uh, moving along and they, they build a, a nice vehicle.
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They make a great tractor. I had one for a while. My neighbor has one,
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he loves it. You can't beat them. And so I hope Mahindra
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comes into the US. Coming up next, we're going to review the 2027
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Infiniti QX65, which would be kind of fun. And we've got some classic
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car service questions on today's Let's Talk Wheels. So we'll be right back with
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all those good goodies. We'll be right back.
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Welcome back to Let's Talk Wheels.
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Mike Hirsing and Jeremy Baron-Baumar, this is our car review segment. This week I was
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driving an Infiniti, really fun one called the QX65,
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and this is kind of like the cousin of,
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you know, the Nissan Rogue. How's that? And, uh,
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it's the fancier cousin. And because this is an Infiniti,
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obviously the model I had was the Autograph all-wheel drive.
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It comes, comes in 3, basically 3 trim levels: the Sport,
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the Luxe, or the Autograph. Uh, it is a midsize,
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uh, CUV SUV, and, uh,
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it's, it's a 5-seater, 2-row, uh,
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268 horsepower, 4-cylinder 2-liter,
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9-speed transmission. It scoots along pretty good. It's not a rocket
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ship, but I kind of wish they'd put the V6 in it. I really do.
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Uh, this is kind of like, uh, the, the 2-row
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version of the QX60. And, um,
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uh, basically it gets on the highway 26 miles to the gallon,
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in the city 20. I think you average around 22.
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Yeah, it's about right. Fun car.
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Good looking, man. Good looking. Very, very swoopy.
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You know, it's not like your typical SUV. This one's kind of like a— loses
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a little headroom in the rear, but it does have kind of a slanted
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back. You know, it's not your typical boxy SUV looking.
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A lot of safety features. Got typical Nissan. Got that Safety
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Shield 360. Their, their,
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uh, lane keeping and all their driver assistance features.
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Got a lot of good stuff there. All of the adaptive cruise control and blind
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spot monitoring, automatic emergency braking with pedestrian detection
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and all that. It's the ProPILOT— excuse me, ProPILOT Assist,
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uh, 2.1, excuse me. And that's their adaptive cruise
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control and all that stuff. And it's kind of got a hands-free driving mode.
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It works really, really well.
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And it's, it's the setup pretty well.
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Everybody's got their own little setup the way they want to do it. And it's
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5-passenger, 4-door hatchback. It's really
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neat. The one I had was the base price on it was $62,590.
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And it had a couple of some goodies, the technology package, which has
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got the fancy stereo and the cargo illuminated cargo
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scuff plates, which is Um, the technology package is $3,700,
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which is the round view monitors, and you can spin it around,
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tow hitch, uh, monitor members, and, and, uh, all the
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harnesses and the trailer towing packages and things like that, and trailer sway control
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and all that. Don't forget, you can tow 6,000 pounds with this. And it's
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got the, uh, the dark illuminated scuff plates, which is another $450,
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the black roof rail crossbars, another $490.
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Reversible cargo air protectors, the safety nets and all that,
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another $300 and something. Hey, it all, this all adds up.
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Splash guards and premium paint
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was $1,900 more. So destination charges included,
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it ends up to be a little over $71,000. So,
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which is about right. And it's all-wheel drive and it's goodies,
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but it's got all kinds of neat goodies, including a,
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you know, 12.3-inch interactive displays.
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And it's got a, just heated and cooled
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seats and very nice massaging seats that would
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just make you almost want to go to sleep, you know. But 21-inch
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wheels and very,
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very comfortable and pleated seats. You're just— just
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a beautiful interior. And like I said, it has all the safety
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features in the world, hill start assist and all these little off-roadish
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kind of things that for people that will never take this thing off-road, that's for
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sure. Um, got a lot of neat stuff, including an
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awesome audio system. Um,
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and I tell you what, it really, really does have that, including a 5G
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hotspot. And, um, really, uh,
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it's just an Apple CarPlay and Android Auto and all that good stuff.
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Have you ever been in one of these, Jeremy? These things are very nice.
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I haven't, but you know, it reminds me of the old 2000s, uh,
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FX35. Yes, it is. It is.
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Yeah. Yes. So, you know, this is a new nameplate for Infiniti.
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They're, they're, they're not abundantly around yet. But that's
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what the car reminds me of. I think it's a great updated version, kind of
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looks like that crossed with Mercedes EQE with
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this sloping back. It's a good-looking car. It's a
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really hot segment right now. So I'm kind of excited to see what it'll
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do. It is. And it's got an incredible audio
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system. You know, it really, really, really is
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nice. And it's got like 21-speaker,
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um, Klipschorn, uh, stereo,
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uh, 20 speakers, excuse me, including in the headrest and everything else.
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So you crank it up, it, it really does a nice
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job. I mean, tell you what, you need to go by your Infiniti dealer and
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check this out. It's a nice size, it's a nice run. Only thing I wish
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is that if it had, uh, the V6. But you know, you can tweak this
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a little bit, put a cold air intake and, and, and, and do a little
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tweaking on it to make it give it more horsepower if you really want.
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But it's got the variable compression, uh,
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4-cylinder that really gives it lots of power. Like I said,
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268 horsepower, and it's not that big of a vehicle. It runs,
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runs just fine. It really is super luxurious,
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super comfortable, and quiet on the highway. Like I said,
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good fuel economy. Um, just, just really a nice
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car. It really is a nice luxury car. Uh, for people that
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just, yeah, want to— want something a little bit nicer than, than your average vehicle.
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Um, it's just really nice. Stop by your Infiniti dealer, check them out. They're really,
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really going to like it. Hey Jeremy, we've got a couple— got a car question
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here that, um, you know, this is a good one. Uh, Joe from
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Arlington, Texas: What are your biggest pet peeves as a driver?
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What are you— what are yours? I got, I got a thousand of them,
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but what really makes you nuts? Yeah, you know,
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I thought about this for a while and I got a list of 100 things,
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but if I can boil it down to one thing, it's, it's just people
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not paying attention to what they're doing. Yeah, no kidding. That's honestly what
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it is, is, is just distracted driving, I think, is what it boils down to.
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Yeah, that's it. Uh, they're, or they're driving a lot. I would drive
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home from the, from the, the farm over Sunday evening
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and, you know, I mean, it'll get dark And these people are driving
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along and they don't have heavy lights on, you know, and they're driving along in
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the dark. And I'm like, you're an idiot. I can't— I just saw a guy
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in the middle lane on the freeway going like 45, no hazards
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on or anything like that. Traffic passing him on both sides. And it's
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like, dude, you have to realize what you're doing. I looked over, thought he was
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on his phone or something, just driving along. Right. And it's
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like situational awareness is so important. Pull your head out of your rear
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end. I mean, are you kidding me? Yeah. I mean, and they're, or they're too
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busy on their phone here. And I'm just like, get off your phone.
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Realize that you don't have any taillights, you know, or you don't,
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you're, you're sitting there with your daylight running lights on and
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he thinks that they're headlights and, and they're just not, you know,
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they have no taillights or no anything on. And I'm like, I run up on
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you and I think I'm going to run over this guy and just, huh.
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Oh, it's scary as hell. It's all that, you know,
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the, the people waiting 45 seconds before they move
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on a green light because they're doing something else. It's just,
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it's, I really think that nowadays people think they're in their car and they're in
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their own world and they don't care about anyone else. They don't,
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you know, back in the day you see someone pulling out of a driveway,
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you might stop and say, go for it. You know, buddy, every nowadays
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everyone's jamming in. Nobody's getting in front of me. We like
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that one car difference is gonna make anything in traffic. Or they'll try to cut
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you. They're right on your butt. Then they get in front of you and slow
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down, and I'm just like, really? Come on, really? I just—
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no. Yeah, people, people hold a grudge. You see it all the time in,
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in, in these videos online. It's like, it's just not worth it,
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guys. Be safe out there. That's all I ask. All right, coming up next,
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we're going to visit with Brian Johnson from Demontron RV. He's going to talk about,
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believe it or not, RVs. I never saw that coming. How strange is that?
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No, it's going to be fun. Coming up next, right here on Let's Talk Wheels.
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Welcome back to Let's Talk Wheels. Mike Harsing, Jerry Barenbaugh. Hey, we're talking to Brian
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Johnson. We're at Camperland visiting his old stomping grounds.
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Brian, I can't, I can't help it, but I gotta ask you something about RVs.
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Okay, what do you got? All right, and we were talking about earlier, what happened
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to pop-ups? I haven't seen any of them lately. They're, you know, they've actually
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started making them a little bit better to where they pop up and the sides
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are hard as well. Uh, they're just not as common as they used to be
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because cars frankly will tow more than they used to. Yeah, I mean,
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I'm just— it just seems like now regular travel trailers are so easy.
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Yeah, they're $12,000, $13,000 for just an entry-level travel trailer
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with air conditioning, refrigerator. And a little bit more security than the pop-up.
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Okay, now does— do, uh, the small travel trailers, is it
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easy to find a place to put a generator on them, or do they
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come with a generator spot to put it or carry them?
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Normally they carry them in the back of the truck, or they put the rack
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on the back of the, the coach, if as long as it's equipped for that,
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and set the generators on that. Okay, just want to make sure when you're utilizing
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generator that's far enough away from the coach that you're not risking any carbon monoxide.
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Right, right. Unless there's a neighbor you really don't like or something like that.
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Yeah, that's cool. I'll leave that to you.
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Yeah. Okay, now, um, I know, but we're talking about generators, we're talking
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about, you know, hurricane season's coming, this kind of stuff, uh, and we were
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also talking about earlier about how the fact the last ice storm and stuff,
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you drove a motorhome home, correct? And, uh, to the house,
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and just in case we lose power, which we do here in Houston all the
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time, right? How handy is that? It's amazing.
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You know, you don't think— I mean, the motorhomes today are,
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are so plush. I mean, the one that I took home happened to
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be a Tiffin, so it had heated floors, sleeping over a mattress. I mean,
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it was a home away from home, if you will. Sure. Um, and it was
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just extremely convenient. And it's kind of Murphy's Law—
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every time I take one home, we don't lose power. It's the times that I
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didn't take one home that we've lost power. No kidding.
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It's the same thing. I remember having a motorhome and then, and sure enough,
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we lose power and we're out in the motorhome, you know? And then I have
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a big cable going in there running all my refrigerators and our
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back powering everything to run part of the
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house, you know? Is that what you did? Well, there's been times where I've actually,
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at the dealership, we've lost power and I've gotten a motorhome and
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tied into our IT area so I can run internet and
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tied into some theaters so we could still contract guests that weren't buying cars.
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Cars, and it would, it would power at least one light, and then hit it
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all through the outlets on the outside of the RV. Speaking of which, uh,
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all these motorhomes, uh, when you get— if you don't want to go to a
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camping spot and everything, do they have a spot where you can hook up
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the Starlink or something like that? Most of them are starting to come to Starlink
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or some kind of Wi-Fi, uh, and that's been going on for at least the
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last 5, 6 years. You know, even your GMC and your Chevrolets have Wi-Fi
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in cars today, so it's pretty common. Wow. I mean,
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campers are just— how about financing? Is it hard to get them financed nowadays,
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or is it getting easier? Is this— this is where we're in August,
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uh, it's 2026, and, uh, you know,
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I don't know, financing is getting better or worse. What do you think? It takes
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a little bit more time to get the approvals and go through the process with
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RVs than it does cars, but you're also looking at, you know, some of the
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RVs you're financing for 240 months. Um, so when you're going
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that far out, you know, it's like a mortgage, not a, not a
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car loan. Uh, and car loans, frankly, cars are easier to find than RVs.
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You can hide an RV pretty easy on some land and they have no idea
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where it is, and they don't have the GPS systems that most of the cars
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do. You know, it's funny, I, I have so many friends that have RVs that
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are, that are in the oil business or this or that, and they're using it
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for a business. You know, they're getting a per diem and they're using that.
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Uh, they'll go out and get a 24-foot you know, travel trailer that's one of
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the lower-end ones, and they're not terribly expensive, and they can make a living.
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I mean, they can make money off of that. It happens a lot. So they
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utilize the company to pay for the RV, but then when they're off time,
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they go do things with their family and go camping and what have you,
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and it's already paid for, like you said, by the per deal. Yeah. So it's
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a lot better to throw money away at a hotel. By the way, if you
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just tuned in, we're talking to Brian Johnson. He is from the DeMontron Auto Group
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and RVs, and, uh, and we really had talked to him for many years,
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and he's just great wealth of knowledge. Believe it or not, the guy really
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knows his stuff when it comes to cars and RVs.
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And, uh, Brian, I mean, you are really good at this.
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Uh, do you think it's really—
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what kind of truck do you really have to have to pull, let's say,
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a 24-foot travel? He's got a family. Let's say you've got a family of 4.
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A lot of times a half-ton truck will pull it, as long as— I would
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strongly recommend that you get the sway bars.
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So to stabilize the trailer, because if you're going to use a half-ton truck full
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of trailer, you want to have that equalizer hitch. Um, you know,
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3/4-ton truck if you're towing anything longer than 30-foot
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or 24-foot, uh, or fifth wheels. Yeah, they say they have half-ton towable
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fifth wheels, but I personally feel more comfortable with a— oh sure,
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sure. But I know that, I know that most of the Chevys and Fords
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and, and even the Rams will have, you know, they're good for 12,000,
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14,000 pounds. Well, in almost every vehicle nowadays has a 7-way hitch,
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uh, and a lot of the Chevrolet, Ford, Dodge,
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uh, Ram had the brake controls already built into the truck.
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Sure, sure. The sway bars, the brake controls, you know, all that kind of stuff
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is really, really handy. And I think that's, that's going to be good for us.
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Safety is important when you're doing that kind of weight. It really is,
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you know. Not even if the mother-in-law's in the back, you know, we're in good
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shape, you know. Nothing going there. But, you know,
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we don't need the overload shocks or anything like that. But, uh, but honest
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to God, it's really, um, it's just good for that. Uh,
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anything when you do any, any particular— all— were they all— most of them built
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in the Midwest? Almost all are built in, um,
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Indiana. They have some plants on the West Coast. They have some plants
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like Tiffin is built in Alabama. Uh, so, but a bit of banjo,
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you know, playing in the background. But a bulk of them are built in Indiana.
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Okay, that's good. Uh, anything else we need to know? Any particular thing about
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a used one? Is that, is that something they've got to be kind of really
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kind of know your stuff if you're looking for a used RV? A used RV
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a lot of times is a little bit better situation because when you buy an
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RV, there's a few things you got to work through. And most of the time
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you buy one that's a year old, they've already worked through all that. Sure.
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And so they found a lot of the little issues that may have happened.
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And fixed one. Yeah, what about people out there that just go, I'm gonna go
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get a— I'm gonna grab one that's like 10 years old or something? They get
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them— you really got to know your stuff. You got to make sure you check
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the roof, you got to make sure you check for soft spots. You want to
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make sure that this— the coach is secure. Uh, but as long as somebody's maintained
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it properly, there's nothing wrong with a 10-year-old coach. How about getting— about
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if you don't want to go to a dealer and buy one, like for you
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guys, the Demontron Group has got some great RVs and got a lot of good
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used stuff. But let's say you, you have somebody, the neighbor that wants to sell
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one, would you recommend getting taking it over to a dealer and having them inspect
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it before they buy it? Absolutely. I would definitely— I mean, it's like a used
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car or anything, pre-owned. Uh, you mean when you buy a house, you have it
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inspected, right? So when you're making that kind of an investment, I mean, the 3
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things we spend the most money on are houses, RVs, and cars. So don't
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you want to make sure you're getting what you pay for? Insurance. Insurance, is that
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ridiculous on an RV, or is it pretty decent? Not that I'm
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an insurance agent, but it's not extremely crazy. Um, just because
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it's a recreational vehicle. It's kind of like when you buy— when you have old
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cars and you have them insured as a, as a basically a toy,
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yeah, to where it's not driven more than 2,000-3,000 miles a year.
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Yeah, it's not that bad, right? Okay. What about motorhomes? It's a whole different animal.
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Yeah, motorhome's a different animal. Um, and the benefit
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of the motorhome is, you know, you're in the coach while you're driving.
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So your passengers have the luxuries of home while
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you're going down the road, and there are seat belts and motorhomes. But it's—
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the problem is when you stop and you camp, unless you have a
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tow vehicle, you're stuck. Or an electric bike, right? Or a motorcycle,
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a little motorcycle, or a little vehicle or something, a tow-behind
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or a fifth wheel. Your tow vehicle is your get-around vehicle once you set the
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RV up. Well, that— it is really kind of cool. You guys have been around.
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Pros and cons to both. Now, all your stores have Motorhomes or
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just part of them? They all have motorhomes. Um, our spring location
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has the Tiffin motorhomes, which is the higher high end.
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Yeah. Uh, but all 3 locations have Class Cs,
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Class Bs, and Class As. Okay. Class Bs are the— are basically—
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it's a van. A van. Uh, Class C is— this is a
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cabover, so it's a van front end, um, with the cab that goes
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over the van. Okay. Oh, it's like a U-Haul but nicer.
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Much nicer. And, uh, and so,
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uh, travel travel trailers are really great. Now, the difference between a fifth
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wheel and, uh, there's a fifth wheel and a gooseneck.
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They don't really have gooseneck— they don't have gooseneck fifth wheels, uh,
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or travel trailers. They make adapters for them so that you
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can hook a fifth wheel to a gooseneck. Uh, we don't personally sell those because
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I don't want the liability at that. Um, but somebody asked me
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that and I was like, man, I have no idea. They do, they do sell
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the adapters as long as you have somebody that
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calls them on a regular basis, you should be fine. Hey, I know, uh,
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I appreciate you— me picking your brain there. There's not a whole lot left,
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so we appreciate it. Take it while you can. Take it while I
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can. Hey, that's Brian Johnson from, uh, Demontron RV,
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and I appreciate you joining us, buddy. My pleasure. Be right back with more Let's
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Let's Talk Wheels.
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Welcome back to Let's Talk Wheels. Mike Hirsing and Jeremy Birnbaum. All right, Jeremy,
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there's an interesting story on the Good Car, Bad Car newsletter
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about bodily injury payouts. Isn't that weird?
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Um, Right now they're paying out more on bodily injury
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claims from on wrecks than they are on
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the claims. Isn't that terrible? Yeah, I mean,
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that's just— I thought these cars are being built safer. It just means to
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me that more people are getting hurt. Yeah, and it, that looks like it
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ends up like maybe the lawyers have taken over.
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Um, I mean, just the, the, the,
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the legal industry based around car accidents is insane.
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I'm sure you have different billboards in Texas than I do in LA,
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but every bus, every, every, uh,
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billboard is littered with Sweet James and injury attorney
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this and JG Wentworth that. And it's like the, the reason they're
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able to do this is because everybody's suing for everything nowadays. And,
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and now these cars are going faster. You got people paying less attention.
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Some of these roads aren't built for the, the, the size and speed of the
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vehicles and people are getting hurt. Yeah, yeah. And it's—
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and, and where we're having a lot of stuff around here are these, these e-bikes,
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these electric bikes. Oh my God, these kids are on these e-bikes getting run
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into people. And I cringe when I,
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when I see these kids on these e-bikes because I don't know
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if people— parents don't realize where their kids are riding.
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Oh my God, parents didn't grow up riding a motorcycle,
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and, and so they don't think their kids are doing what they are doing.
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But I'm seeing kids driving in traffic, no blinkers,
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no brake lights. Well, they don't have any idea how to ride in traffic.
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They don't know how to drive. No, they— no, none of it, because they don't
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have their license. They're like 8 or 9 years old, you know. And, and they're
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not— and they're not wearing the appropriate, um,
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safety equipment. They're not even wearing a motorcycle helmet because
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it's considered a bicycle. They're wearing a bicycle helmet and they're
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riding on the road. Yeah. If they're smart, they might have
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gloves and pants, but most of them are in shorts. Most of them don't
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have gloves. Like I tell anyone that rides barehanded, I go, what happens when
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you fall? What's the first thing you do? You go to put your hand out.
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Have you ever seen what happens to people's hands when they fall
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even at 35, 40 miles an hour? It gives me the willies
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thinking about it. Yeah. Yeah. It's brutal. I mean, and, and these guys
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are easily doing 40.
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Um, some of my neighbors here have these e-bikes that they've
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souped up with, with extra parts and batteries and whatnot.
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They're going 60 miles and they're doing wheelies down the street at 60. It's crazy.
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Like, the talent is definitely there and that's cool, but they just,
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they don't have the experience. They don't, they haven't seen someone crash or
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get hit by a car. They, you know, like, they just don't know. They don't
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know the rules of the road and they just, they just don't at all,
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you know. Now if they were 16 or something, be a different story, but these,
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we're talking 8 or 9 years old,
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you know, um, and they shouldn't be on them. But either
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way, there's, there's a lot of problems there. But yeah,
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you know, yeah, back, back to the cars though, you know, we talk
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about it before in insurance claims and how expensive the cars are to fix,
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but also now, you know, the, the injuries are there
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as well. And I don't know if that's people trying to game the system or
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they're true, true injuries. I think it's a little bit of both.
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Yeah, yeah, that's true. All right, let's talk about Pebble Beach,
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the winners and the losers. Oh man, what a weekend.
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Like, like I said earlier in the show, I was glad to be in LA
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while no one was here, but it's honestly like looking at the photos, looking at
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the cars you see, it's, it's the Super Bowl of the car world.
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Um, and it's such an amazing experience. Everyone has to go once
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in their life if you're a car fan. I've been. It was amazing.
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So this, this year the winner was a 1935 Duesenberg SSJ
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Special. Um, this was the Clark Gable car,
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if people are familiar with it. Um,
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it kind of makes a lot of sense that on the 75th, uh,
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anniversary and the 205th anniversary of America that a
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U.S.-built car won. And in general,
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mostly these Pebble Beach winners are typically, uh,
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pre-war cars. Um, it's,
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it's such an amazing experience. I can't imagine what
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you know, the, the owner goes through after putting so much effort,
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not even time, not even money, just the effort to get these cars to
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the level that they are and as right as they are. It, it's so impressive,
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especially sometimes you'll see these before photos of how they found these pre-war
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cars, like just a frame or whatever,
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and half the car is rebuilt. But, um, it's quite amazing.
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And then we have on, on the, the auction side and, and the,
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the supercar side, you see just the most amazing cars, every manufacturer,
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manufacturers releasing their new vehicle, right? You know,
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Porsche came out with a really cool slant nose, factory slant
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nose turbo that they'll be offering pretty soon.
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But for the, from the auction results side, we have
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some staggering numbers. My favorite,
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the Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe.
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I always thought I'd be able to afford one of these, but $42.9
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million with, with the, uh,
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the auction fees. Uh, what an amazing car and what an amazing number.
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Uh, we saw some— it's a lot of money for a Shelby.
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That's a lot of money for anything. This was, uh,
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supposedly Carroll Shelby's personal, uh,
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Daytona Coupe. And if you're familiar with the Daytona Coupes, I think there's
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6 or 7 existing. Uh, that's all that was built. Um,
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that was after the, uh, the Cobra. And, um,
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what an amazing car. Uh, the other big highlights were,
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uh, Nick Mason McLaren F1 GTR.
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That's with the pop art livery.
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And that sold for $34.6 million.
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So another staggering number in the McLaren world. The Ferrari
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Luce, the number 1 first-built Ferrari Luce,
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the car that for the last month and a half,
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yeah, everyone in the automotive world has just been dogging, right? Yeah. And they've just
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been making fun of it, really. Making fun of it. And I don't
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think it's rightfully so because nobody's touched it yet.
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A couple people have, but I think everything's still embargoed. But the first
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one ever, the first electric car Ferrari has ever
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produced, sold at auction. It was a charity auction. It sold for $40 million.
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$40 million? I'll say that again. $40 million.
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So, you know, that money goes to a good cause and Sometimes
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the reason that people are paying that exorbitant
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dollar amount isn't because they want that car. They want to be in Ferrari's
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good graces for the next car, per se. But that's
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still an insanely staggering number. Oh gosh.
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That's Jeremy Birnbaum money. I mean, my gosh.
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You know, if it was, if it was, I would've figured
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out a way to get the extra $3 million to buy the Daytona Coupe.
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That's nuts. Um, my gosh, it's nuts.
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But overall, I mean, the numbers are still coming
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in on a lot of the auctions and whatnot, but early, uh,
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late '90s, early 2000s supercars— Ferraris,
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Lamborghinis, uh, some Porsches— are just going insane.
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The numbers we're seeing are just wild. Enzos are selling
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in the tens of millions of dollars at this point. Um,
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Carrera GTs are in the $3 to $4 million range.
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Um, There's some really— '63
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Corvette Grand Sport sold for $18 million. That was a
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race car, I think a Phil Donahue race car. Oh, okay. There we go.
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But overall, I think that they sold
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$680 million in cars over the weekend
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that was reported. I think there's gonna be higher numbers.
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We're, you know, just one week out. So things are still,
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you know— Yeah, some of the cars are still getting sold. Yeah,
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they're still haggling, I'm sure. Yeah, for sure.
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So, um, there's some deep pockets,
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there's some gorgeous cars. Uh, you know, if you couldn't
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go and you're interested, Pebble Beach Concours website has,
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uh, all the cars that were entered. There was a beautiful one-of-one,
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uh, 1930s, uh, aero car. Um,
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man, I'm blanking on the name on the spot here right now, but it's worth
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looking at. It's black. It was backed by Heinz, the Heinz ketchup
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family. I'll have some more information on it next week because
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it just stood out to me as gorgeous. Those are just—
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these cars are the most beautiful works of art that
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I've seen. And when you go to there, everybody's all dressed up and,
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you know, just to the nines, and you're on a golf course.
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It's on the water. It's gorgeous. I mean, if you're wearing,
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you know, everybody's wearing fancy clothes,
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you know, it's crazy. It just It's just the most
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amazing thing. Well, Jeremy, thanks. And we'll have to find
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out if anything else gets sold, right? Well, that's it for today's show, folks.
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