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Welcome to another episode of
Laying the Foundation.
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(Skyler)::
Welcome, everybody, to another
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episode of the Laying the
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Foundation podcast.
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My name is Skylar.
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I'm your host.
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But more importantly, today, one
of our our special guests that
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we're going to be having is
Andrew Miller from over at our
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Des Moines office, one of our
amazing architects there.
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Andrew, welcome to the show.
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Great to be here.
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(Skyler)::
Awesome. Great to have you.
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I think this is the first time
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you've been on an episode,
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right?
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It is.
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Yeah.
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Right on.
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Awesome.
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Well, excited to have you here.
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Uh, talking about a really cool
project.
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Gilbert elementary school, uh,
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over in Gilbert, uh, Iowa,
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right?
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(Andrew)::
Yes.
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Perfect. So first of all, I
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guess we'll start from the
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beginning.
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How did we get this project?
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You know, how were we approached
about it?
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Was it something that we did
sort of a bid on or something
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along those lines?
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Like how did how did we end up
with this?
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So this is actually a project
that we interviewed for.
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Um, and at that point it was for
master planning services.
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So they, they're, uh, they're
growing pretty rapidly.
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So they knew that they needed
more space, but they weren't
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exactly sure how to tackle it
and how to allocate their
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resources in the best manner.
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So that's how we got our foot in
the door is by interviewing for
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that master planning service.
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And through that, we created a
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plan which ultimately led to
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this project, which is a new
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elementary school.
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Right on.
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So we, you know, did all the did
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all the master plan work led to
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something more?
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And this isn't even the extent
of this project or like the
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larger project, I guess you
could say, because we've been
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doing a lot of stuff for Gilbert
schools, haven't we?
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There's actually six projects
within the district, so.
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Wow.
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Yeah, we've kind of been
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involved in practically the
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whole campus at this point, it
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sounds like.
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So that's really cool.
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That's awesome.
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So I guess starting from the
beginning, right, we've got,
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we're focusing on the elementary
school for this episode.
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You had mentioned that twenty
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percent of the homes in Gilbert
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were actually kind of in a
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direct path to the school from
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their backyards.
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So that's like a fifth of the,
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the homes in the area that are
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like actively touching the
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school.
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How, how is that affecting our
direction for sort of the
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exterior of the building?
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Obviously, since it's connecting
to so many different people?
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Well, the twenty percent, it
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started kind of anecdotally
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where you can step into their
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existing site and realize that,
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wow, we that's somebody else's
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backyard.
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You can see it.
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But then we actually did an
exercise where we looked at
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historical satellite imagery and
kind of saw the development of
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the town and how it's
intentional that the
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neighborhoods are kind of
encapsulating of this site and
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even the newer neighborhoods.
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While it may not be this site,
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they're built around parks and
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each park has this kind of path
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that's like connecting
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everything.
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So even if it's not directly
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adjacent to this school, it has
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that kind of like small town
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feel where you can hop out the
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back door, get on a bike path,
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and you're at the school in a
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minute.
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So it started out really as just
like, this is how it is.
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But once we realize how
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intentional it was, we really
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decided to make that kind of the
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feature of the exterior where we
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tried to pull in materials, um,
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colors and have this building
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fit in with the neighborhood
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because it really, it's a part
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of it.
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It's so interwoven that we
didn't want to do anything that
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is new or flashier than
everything else around it.
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So we use some wood tones, some
concrete tones.
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We use a lot of brick textures,
stuff that is, it's really you
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can see it in the building or in
the house next door.
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That's kind of how we designed
the school exterior was.
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Kind of keeping things
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consistent, keeping things so it
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doesn't feel like it's really
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out of place or kind of weirdly
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poking out or something like
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that.
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Yeah.
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Awesome.
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And I mean, obviously it makes
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sense that the community would
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kind of build itself around that
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because I mean, as a parent,
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right?
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Like sending my, my kid to go
walk to school can be kind of a
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nerve wracking thing.
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And I know that it's basically
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through our backyard and then
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bada bing, bada boom, you're
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there.
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That's, that's kind of nice,
right?
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Like, that's a nice feature.
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It's kind of unique to Gilbert.
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A lot of other small towns kind
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of have it, but not every school
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district is as fortunate as them
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that they planned it out so
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well.
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Absolutely.
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So were there any like
challenges or, or complications
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that kind of arose because of
the fact that you're trying to
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build this new facility kind of
right by because it was right by
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the old one.
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This is a full like new build.
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And then on top of it, you've
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got, you know, everybody's
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backyards in the picture as
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well.
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(Andrew)::
Yeah. So there have definitely
been a lot of conversations
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regarding construction, a lot
of, um, a lot of just things to
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consider construction wise.
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And luckily we thought about
those during design.
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So just making sure that there's
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no way that a child is ever even
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in proximity to the construction
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site.
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Mhm.
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Making sure that all of our
construction items are away from
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the school and in a safe manner.
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That's that was probably the
biggest consideration that we
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had to take.
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And obviously some parts of the
site had to be shut down just
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because you can't use the bike
path when we're taking over it.
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So some of those features, yeah,
we did have to, um, temporarily
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shut them down.
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But hopefully in the long term
it's a benefit.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Going off of kind of what you
said earlier, you mentioned, you
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know, kind of trying to make the
school fit in design wise to the
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rest of the community.
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But did we do anything to also,
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as weird as it might sound,
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stand out from the rest of the
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area around it for those that
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might be driving by and they
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want to differentiate, here's
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the school, here's elements of
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the community kind of a thing we
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did.
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We incorporated a lot of signage
and we used their, their school
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colors in the facade as well.
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So it's not all what I would say
is like your generic materials
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that you're finding.
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We found ways to incorporate
their school colors and school
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logos so that you understood
exactly what it was.
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Perfect.
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Yeah, because obviously we want,
you know, again, this facility
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is the school.
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We want people to know it's the
school.
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It's kind of like what we talk
about with healthcare facilities
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and things like that, right?
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Signage is important.
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Being able to identify where it
is that you're going.
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And even with a school, right,
you've got a full campus here,
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you've got the elementary,
you've probably got high school,
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middle school, etc. you want
people to be able to find it.
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So yeah, perfect.
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Awesome.
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Making things notable while
still fitting in with the rest
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of the community, which I think
we do a really great job of too.
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We really look at communities
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and say, hey, what's kind of the
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tone here?
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What's the feel here?
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And let's try to match that.
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Let's try to make sure that this
fits within that.
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Because a lot of times,
especially here in the Midwest,
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we've got sort of this smaller
town feel a lot of times, but
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very hospitable, which is
something that we really want to
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play off of, match that energy.
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There's definitely a fine line
that I think you can't be too
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far on either side where you're
getting a new building.
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It better look like a new
building.
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And yes.
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You better be on the cutting
edge of.
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If it's going to last for fifty
years, you better make it look
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superintendent and so forth.
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working every day with the kids,
trying to help educate them?
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this particular project.
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So we had, I'm not sure the
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what we think that they were
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hallways running and jumping.
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they're able to do all this
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previous architect could have
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activities that's happening in
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do with a building that was
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actually seeing them in that day
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want to do was really eye
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opening for us.
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saying before, right?
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the user or the community or,
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you know, the students and the
teachers that are there.
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That's obviously the best way to
design, right?
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What do you need?
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What do you specifically want in
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seasonal concept, or maybe that
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creating based around the theme
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of seasons.
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floor plan and we kind of knew
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what each grade got.
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into a central space.
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activity, this activity and this
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different experience in each
what we're calling neighborhood.
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Uh, we didn't want each one to
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differentiating, which in
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previous schools, we've tackled
it a lot of different ways.
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use signage, you can use all
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sorts of different wayfinding
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with the client, they, they
really challenged us to is
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making it an experience and not
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a different color.
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building that grew with the
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students.
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really clung to this season's
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students are in the spring, kind
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which is where you start to see
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grader, you're in the fall and
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fall off and you're ready to
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experiential thing where we
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don't just want them to feel
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We want the experience to be
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Even though you have the exact
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same amount of classroom center
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spaces, etc..
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And I love it.
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There's very metaphorical, uh,
concepts here with the seasons.
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Like you said, you start out in
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sprouting, you're growing all
the way down to fall where
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you've kind of reached that,
that highest level.
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to who are in the spring and
they look over and they see, you
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know, the summer and the fall
classes and like you said,
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differentiate, you know, be able
to say, hey, those are that's
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where I'm going to be next year
and have kind of an excitement
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and be excited to, to be a part
of that as well.
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With that being said, did we
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have spaces that brought it all
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together that kind of brought
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together all the, the different
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seasons, these different
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students for different age
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groups?
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Yeah. The culmination is really
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the very center of the building.
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So each grade has very like
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and their media center.
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Even in their old media center,
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more than just a place for
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read your book.
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It's really a gathering space.
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It's a space where entire grades
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go there and they can read
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aloud.
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So we, we really tried to make
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hub within the building.
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storage, but it's really focused
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on that gathering space.
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And there's a mural that has all
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four seasons kind of growing,
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and each of the neighborhoods
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has its own like whimsical tree
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with curving branches going
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through it.
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And the media center has that as
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So it takes pieces from each
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neighborhood, but tries to
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combine them right in that that
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gathering area of the media
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center.
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(Skyler)::
Awesome.
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Awesome opportunities for story
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times and again, collaborative
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group stuff, which is really
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cool.
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Very good opportunity.
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And I love how we took the
concept of a media center and we
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made it very literal because we
kept it in the center.
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I think that's kind of a fun
play on words there.
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Maybe that's just me, I don't
know.
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With that being said, you
mentioned earlier that the
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students like to be very active.
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They have that kind of fun time.
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How did we design their spaces,
regardless of what season they
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might be in, to be able to
accommodate for all of this?
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Maybe physical activity, right?
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The media center is kind of more
like sit down, read your books
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and things like that.
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Whereas you might want a lot of
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opportunity for play and
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physical activity.
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How are we balancing that?
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So I think first and foremost, a
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lot of that's accomplished with
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furniture, which we were
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involved with onboarding a
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furniture vendor with the
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school.
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We were in all of the meetings
kind of saying, this is what we
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imagined the space to be, what
can you do with it?
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And so we took some of those
visions of how they would be
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acting in the spaces and
purchased furniture that was
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specifically catered to that.
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I think architecturally, our
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obstacles that would prevent
them from using the space in the
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way that they want it.
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So if we have mobile furniture,
making sure that they have a
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space to store it or put it up
against the wall, making sure
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that they have plenty of storage
elsewhere so that things aren't
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(Andrew)::
just lingering out in the
classrooms and hard to clean.
435
00:14:55,740 --> 00:14:58,259
(Andrew)::
We want to make that as
configurable as possible.
436
00:14:58,259 --> 00:15:01,059
(Andrew)::
And then there's other things
like if they're going to be
437
00:15:01,059 --> 00:15:03,870
(Andrew)::
using water in the space, making
sure that they have the ability
438
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(Andrew)::
for water and the ability to
clean it up.
439
00:15:05,769 --> 00:15:07,850
(Andrew)::
And it's really.
440
00:15:07,850 --> 00:15:12,230
(Andrew)::
Architecturally speaking, the
main goal is to just reduce any
441
00:15:12,230 --> 00:15:14,889
(Andrew)::
obstacles and make sure that
they have access to everything,
442
00:15:14,889 --> 00:15:18,450
(Andrew)::
because we can say this is how
we imagine the space to be used.
443
00:15:18,450 --> 00:15:20,049
(Andrew)::
Ten years from now, they're
going to have a totally
444
00:15:20,049 --> 00:15:22,850
(Andrew)::
different list, and we want to
make sure that they have access
445
00:15:22,850 --> 00:15:24,289
(Andrew)::
to everything that they need.
446
00:15:24,129 --> 00:15:25,169
(Skyler)::
Absolutely, absolutely.
447
00:15:25,169 --> 00:15:26,769
(Skyler)::
Planning for the future, which
448
00:15:26,769 --> 00:15:27,970
(Skyler)::
we've said it before, and we'll
449
00:15:27,970 --> 00:15:29,049
(Skyler)::
say it again, we don't have a
450
00:15:29,049 --> 00:15:29,529
(Skyler)::
crystal ball.
451
00:15:29,529 --> 00:15:30,409
(Skyler)::
We can't foresee that.
452
00:15:30,409 --> 00:15:32,570
(Skyler)::
We don't know exactly how
they're going to use it, but
453
00:15:32,570 --> 00:15:36,570
(Skyler)::
making it so that regardless of
how they decide to change things
454
00:15:36,570 --> 00:15:40,389
(Skyler)::
or do things in the future, we
have opportunities to adjust
455
00:15:40,389 --> 00:15:43,370
(Skyler)::
what we've designed and we've
put forward to, to accommodate
456
00:15:43,370 --> 00:15:45,129
(Skyler)::
for that, which is really cool.
457
00:15:45,129 --> 00:15:46,149
(Skyler)::
It's the best we can, you know,
458
00:15:46,149 --> 00:15:47,250
(Skyler)::
it's the best that we as humans
459
00:15:47,250 --> 00:15:48,610
(Skyler)::
can do because we don't have we
460
00:15:48,610 --> 00:15:49,730
(Skyler)::
don't have the ability to see
461
00:15:49,730 --> 00:15:51,529
(Skyler)::
the future per se, but we can
462
00:15:51,529 --> 00:15:52,490
(Skyler)::
prepare to the best of our
463
00:15:52,490 --> 00:15:53,090
(Skyler)::
abilities.
464
00:15:53,090 --> 00:15:56,129
(Skyler)::
So you mentioned at the
beginning, obviously the school,
465
00:15:56,129 --> 00:15:58,769
(Skyler)::
everything, the community was
really built around the school.
466
00:15:58,769 --> 00:16:02,809
(Skyler)::
So obviously the school is a
pretty important element of it.
467
00:16:02,809 --> 00:16:07,309
(Skyler)::
If we're looking at after hours
for the school, how is how is it
468
00:16:07,309 --> 00:16:12,029
(Skyler)::
being used for the community's
benefit outside of just being a
469
00:16:12,029 --> 00:16:13,870
(Skyler)::
school, right, for their kids?
470
00:16:13,669 --> 00:16:15,629
(Andrew)::
So one component of that is the
community.
471
00:16:15,629 --> 00:16:18,470
(Andrew)::
The other component is the other
schools within the district.
472
00:16:18,470 --> 00:16:19,990
(Andrew)::
As I said, we're we're touching
473
00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:21,149
(Andrew)::
almost every school within the
474
00:16:21,149 --> 00:16:21,669
(Andrew)::
district.
475
00:16:21,669 --> 00:16:24,190
(Andrew)::
They they're growing to a point
476
00:16:24,190 --> 00:16:26,309
(Andrew)::
where we wanted to make sure
477
00:16:26,309 --> 00:16:28,190
(Andrew)::
that they would have a space for
478
00:16:28,190 --> 00:16:28,710
(Andrew)::
everything.
479
00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:34,110
(Andrew)::
So, um, we made this the right
when you walk in the door is
480
00:16:34,110 --> 00:16:37,690
(Andrew)::
kind of a public space, a space
where if a community member
481
00:16:37,690 --> 00:16:42,029
(Andrew)::
wanted to maybe have an event at
some point, we could have that.
482
00:16:42,029 --> 00:16:43,149
(Andrew)::
If the school opted to do that
483
00:16:43,149 --> 00:16:44,750
(Andrew)::
down the line, if the high
484
00:16:44,750 --> 00:16:46,070
(Andrew)::
school needed an additional
485
00:16:46,070 --> 00:16:47,710
(Andrew)::
place to practice, they have a
486
00:16:47,710 --> 00:16:49,190
(Andrew)::
full size gymnasium and not a
487
00:16:49,190 --> 00:16:50,830
(Andrew)::
half size gymnasium, so they're
488
00:16:50,830 --> 00:16:52,409
(Andrew)::
very conscious choices to make
489
00:16:52,409 --> 00:16:54,350
(Andrew)::
sure that the space could be
490
00:16:54,350 --> 00:16:55,429
(Andrew)::
used for more than just
491
00:16:55,429 --> 00:16:56,470
(Andrew)::
elementary school.
492
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:59,029
(Andrew)::
And this was early in design.
493
00:16:59,029 --> 00:17:01,389
(Andrew)::
We wanted to make sure that
those adjacencies were there so
494
00:17:01,389 --> 00:17:04,609
(Andrew)::
that we could still have as
secure of a building as
495
00:17:04,609 --> 00:17:08,369
(Andrew)::
possible, so we can
compartmentalize those spaces
496
00:17:08,369 --> 00:17:11,849
(Andrew)::
without ever accessing the
student spaces, without ever
497
00:17:11,849 --> 00:17:14,730
(Andrew)::
going into somebody's classroom
or office or private space.
498
00:17:14,730 --> 00:17:18,390
(Andrew)::
So I think being thoughtful
about that in the very beginning
499
00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:23,250
(Andrew)::
helped us to really enact that
and to make it secure while
500
00:17:23,250 --> 00:17:24,809
(Andrew)::
still being public, right?
501
00:17:24,609 --> 00:17:25,730
(Skyler)::
Because it's always, yeah, big
502
00:17:25,730 --> 00:17:27,329
(Skyler)::
challenge is maintaining
503
00:17:27,329 --> 00:17:28,329
(Skyler)::
security.
504
00:17:28,329 --> 00:17:31,089
(Skyler)::
One of the first episodes we did
was, you know, designing
505
00:17:31,089 --> 00:17:32,009
(Skyler)::
schools, not prisons.
506
00:17:32,009 --> 00:17:33,210
(Skyler)::
We want it to be very secure,
507
00:17:33,210 --> 00:17:34,369
(Skyler)::
but we still want it to be
508
00:17:34,369 --> 00:17:37,049
(Skyler)::
accessible and not feel like
509
00:17:37,049 --> 00:17:38,650
(Skyler)::
you're just trapped in a box or
510
00:17:38,650 --> 00:17:39,769
(Skyler)::
a cage or something along those
511
00:17:39,769 --> 00:17:40,049
(Skyler)::
lines.
512
00:17:40,049 --> 00:17:43,150
(Skyler)::
So yeah, being able to access it
from the community standpoint
513
00:17:43,150 --> 00:17:46,569
(Skyler)::
for beneficial uses to the
community, but then also keeping
514
00:17:46,569 --> 00:17:49,730
(Skyler)::
it safe and secure, which is
it's a tricky juggle, but
515
00:17:49,730 --> 00:17:53,829
(Skyler)::
obviously you guys have figured
out a lot of very good, clever
516
00:17:53,829 --> 00:17:56,650
(Skyler)::
ways of doing that to make sure
that it works.
517
00:17:56,450 --> 00:18:00,750
(Andrew)::
So the sooner you think about
it, the the easier it is to
518
00:18:00,750 --> 00:18:01,809
(Andrew)::
really enact it.
519
00:18:01,809 --> 00:18:04,440
(Andrew)::
If that comes up when the floor
plans are already set that, hey,
520
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,279
(Andrew)::
we want other people to use it.
521
00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:07,759
(Andrew)::
It gets really hard, right?
522
00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:10,480
(Skyler)::
You gotta pretty much scrap the
old idea and be like, oh man, we
523
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,920
(Skyler)::
gotta rework so much to ensure
that we have the things in place
524
00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:14,960
(Skyler)::
to be able to do that.
525
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,240
(Skyler)::
So that makes sense.
526
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,759
(Skyler)::
So when we're looking at maybe
527
00:18:17,759 --> 00:18:18,980
(Skyler)::
some of the more outdoor
528
00:18:18,980 --> 00:18:20,900
(Skyler)::
elements of this, you mentioned,
529
00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:22,000
(Skyler)::
like bike trails had to be
530
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,359
(Skyler)::
closed down while this was being
531
00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:23,799
(Skyler)::
worked on.
532
00:18:23,799 --> 00:18:26,079
(Skyler)::
So what did we do with the new
533
00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:28,059
(Skyler)::
facility, the new build, to
534
00:18:28,059 --> 00:18:29,440
(Skyler)::
allow for some more outside
535
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,920
(Skyler)::
activity or enhance the outside
536
00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,000
(Skyler)::
activity that might have already
537
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:32,599
(Skyler)::
been there?
538
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,039
(Andrew)::
Yeah. So one component of this
539
00:18:34,039 --> 00:18:36,559
(Andrew)::
project is a playground upgrade,
540
00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:37,839
(Andrew)::
which they have a playground
541
00:18:37,839 --> 00:18:39,599
(Andrew)::
that's very instrumental to the
542
00:18:39,599 --> 00:18:40,119
(Andrew)::
community.
543
00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,480
(Andrew)::
Been there for a long time.
544
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,720
(Andrew)::
They have this like hill that
slides can come down, which is
545
00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,720
(Andrew)::
really it's a beloved piece.
546
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,900
(Andrew)::
It's a tricky piece to design
around, but we're kind of
547
00:18:50,900 --> 00:18:54,039
(Andrew)::
upgrading that and giving it a
facelift, introducing new
548
00:18:54,039 --> 00:18:55,599
(Andrew)::
slides, safer slides.
549
00:18:55,599 --> 00:18:58,559
(Andrew)::
So we are updating that
playground, giving them some
550
00:18:58,559 --> 00:18:59,680
(Andrew)::
more play area.
551
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,039
(Andrew)::
Athletics and sporting are so
552
00:19:02,039 --> 00:19:03,910
(Andrew)::
instrumental to the community
553
00:19:03,910 --> 00:19:05,400
(Andrew)::
starting at a young age, going
554
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:06,059
(Andrew)::
upwards to.
555
00:19:06,059 --> 00:19:07,539
(Andrew)::
So there are so many ball
556
00:19:07,539 --> 00:19:10,099
(Andrew)::
fields, soccer fields that young
557
00:19:10,099 --> 00:19:10,700
(Andrew)::
kids need.
558
00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:11,700
(Andrew)::
Old kids need too.
559
00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:14,779
(Andrew)::
So I think thinking through some
of those and making sure that we
560
00:19:14,779 --> 00:19:17,380
(Andrew)::
were able to keep what was
already there and make it better
561
00:19:17,380 --> 00:19:18,019
(Andrew)::
if we could.
562
00:19:18,019 --> 00:19:19,640
(Andrew)::
There was a really active
563
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,220
(Andrew)::
exercise early on and making
564
00:19:22,220 --> 00:19:23,619
(Andrew)::
sure that the site was working,
565
00:19:23,619 --> 00:19:24,779
(Andrew)::
and that we still had those
566
00:19:24,779 --> 00:19:26,900
(Andrew)::
areas for athletics for all
567
00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:27,539
(Andrew)::
ages.
568
00:19:27,380 --> 00:19:29,660
(Skyler)::
Awesome. And I think that's,
it's one of those things that if
569
00:19:29,660 --> 00:19:33,559
(Skyler)::
I, if I live within that
community and the school, the
570
00:19:33,559 --> 00:19:37,059
(Skyler)::
again, playground or other
equipment like that or spaces
571
00:19:37,059 --> 00:19:39,900
(Skyler)::
like that are in my backyard, I
mean, I'm going to be itching to
572
00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:40,579
(Skyler)::
go use them.
573
00:19:40,579 --> 00:19:43,900
(Skyler)::
So it's good that it's being put
together in such a way that it
574
00:19:43,900 --> 00:19:44,859
(Skyler)::
really enhances it.
575
00:19:44,859 --> 00:19:49,579
(Skyler)::
Because I mean, man, that'd be a
real bummer to live right next
576
00:19:49,579 --> 00:19:52,299
(Skyler)::
door to the school and not be
able to go run over and go on
577
00:19:52,299 --> 00:19:54,380
(Skyler)::
the slide or go on the swings
whenever I want to.
578
00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:55,980
(Skyler)::
So and then, okay, so you'll
579
00:19:55,980 --> 00:19:58,140
(Skyler)::
have to remind me, when is this
580
00:19:58,140 --> 00:19:59,900
(Skyler)::
project completed or are we
581
00:19:59,900 --> 00:20:01,140
(Skyler)::
putting on the finishing touches
582
00:20:01,140 --> 00:20:01,740
(Skyler)::
here?
583
00:20:01,539 --> 00:20:05,490
(Andrew)::
It's going to be complete for
the next school year.
584
00:20:05,329 --> 00:20:06,089
(Skyler)::
For the next school year.
585
00:20:06,089 --> 00:20:06,970
(Skyler)::
Okay. Perfect.
586
00:20:06,970 --> 00:20:07,369
(Skyler)::
Awesome.
587
00:20:07,369 --> 00:20:12,210
(Skyler)::
So I guess the question remains,
when they do get a chance to go
588
00:20:12,210 --> 00:20:14,849
(Skyler)::
in there, what's going to be
kind of like that first moment
589
00:20:14,849 --> 00:20:17,690
(Skyler)::
that when they walk in there and
see the space, they're going to
590
00:20:17,690 --> 00:20:19,529
(Skyler)::
be super stoked and excited for?
591
00:20:19,529 --> 00:20:21,250
(Skyler)::
What do you think they're going
to be running at?
592
00:20:21,049 --> 00:20:22,170
(Andrew)::
I think it's going to be those
593
00:20:22,170 --> 00:20:23,609
(Andrew)::
center spaces that are outside
594
00:20:23,609 --> 00:20:25,250
(Andrew)::
of each classroom that's really
595
00:20:25,250 --> 00:20:26,009
(Andrew)::
taking the place of a
596
00:20:26,009 --> 00:20:27,529
(Andrew)::
traditional hallway.
597
00:20:27,529 --> 00:20:30,650
(Andrew)::
So a lot of times what would
normally happen is students
598
00:20:30,650 --> 00:20:32,690
(Andrew)::
would exit the classroom right
into a hallway, and that's how
599
00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:35,329
(Andrew)::
they were using the hallways
during the day of play.
600
00:20:35,329 --> 00:20:37,970
(Andrew)::
Now they have this extremely
wide open space.
601
00:20:37,970 --> 00:20:39,890
(Andrew)::
There's presentation areas.
602
00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:41,210
(Andrew)::
There's that whimsical tree
603
00:20:41,210 --> 00:20:42,250
(Andrew)::
element where you can actually
604
00:20:42,250 --> 00:20:44,089
(Andrew)::
go inside of the tree and have
605
00:20:44,089 --> 00:20:46,450
(Andrew)::
like a, a little, um, like small
606
00:20:46,450 --> 00:20:47,049
(Andrew)::
group space.
607
00:20:47,049 --> 00:20:48,930
(Andrew)::
So there's all sorts of nooks
608
00:20:48,930 --> 00:20:50,450
(Andrew)::
and crannies within that space
609
00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:53,250
(Andrew)::
where I go back to seeing that
610
00:20:53,250 --> 00:20:54,529
(Andrew)::
day of play, where they're able
611
00:20:54,529 --> 00:20:56,210
(Andrew)::
to do so much with a building
612
00:20:56,210 --> 00:20:57,329
(Andrew)::
where that was never even
613
00:20:57,329 --> 00:20:57,930
(Andrew)::
thought about.
614
00:20:57,930 --> 00:21:00,890
(Andrew)::
I'm very excited to see what
they can do with a building that
615
00:21:00,890 --> 00:21:03,130
(Andrew)::
they thought very hard about it.
616
00:21:02,930 --> 00:21:03,549
(Skyler)::
Right?
617
00:21:03,549 --> 00:21:04,549
(Skyler)::
Absolutely.
618
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:07,789
(Skyler)::
It's the perfect fulfillment of,
again, what they were hoping for
619
00:21:07,789 --> 00:21:09,029
(Skyler)::
and what they were looking for.
620
00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:10,549
(Skyler)::
So perfect, I think.
621
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:12,710
(Skyler)::
I mean, that's everything that I
have from my end.
622
00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:16,349
(Skyler)::
If I missed anything, don't
hesitate to say, hey, Skyler,
623
00:21:16,349 --> 00:21:19,150
(Skyler)::
but anything else that you want
to mention about this project or
624
00:21:19,150 --> 00:21:21,990
(Skyler)::
the process that you, you guys
went through to put it together?
625
00:21:21,829 --> 00:21:24,829
(Andrew)::
Just it was an insanely fun
project to work on.
626
00:21:24,829 --> 00:21:26,230
(Andrew)::
This was a great school
district.
627
00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:30,109
(Andrew)::
It really is kind of a dream
client where there's no idea
628
00:21:30,109 --> 00:21:31,509
(Andrew)::
that was too far out there.
629
00:21:31,509 --> 00:21:34,950
(Andrew)::
They were not afraid to say, I
like this idea, but what if we
630
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:36,230
(Andrew)::
did this, this, this and this?
631
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:39,630
(Andrew)::
And when the envelope is pushed
so far, I think it really
632
00:21:39,630 --> 00:21:41,269
(Andrew)::
elevates the final design.
633
00:21:41,269 --> 00:21:44,190
(Andrew)::
So I'm really proud of how it is
turning out.
634
00:21:44,190 --> 00:21:46,750
(Andrew)::
I can't wait to see it open up
next fall.
635
00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:47,309
(Skyler)::
Yeah, absolutely.
636
00:21:47,309 --> 00:21:48,269
(Skyler)::
That's going to be awesome.
637
00:21:48,269 --> 00:21:51,190
(Skyler)::
I hope that, uh, either I'm able
to get pictures there or maybe
638
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:53,829
(Skyler)::
somebody else's, uh, from the,
from the Des Moines office is
639
00:21:53,829 --> 00:21:55,750
(Skyler)::
able to get pictures because I'm
sure that'll be a really
640
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:58,829
(Skyler)::
exciting moment for the school
and of course, for us at the
641
00:21:58,829 --> 00:22:01,309
(Skyler)::
MBA, since we're the ones that
do the design work for it, it's
642
00:22:01,309 --> 00:22:03,670
(Skyler)::
always exciting to see the final
project at the end.
643
00:22:03,670 --> 00:22:06,940
(Skyler)::
So, whatever the case, Andrew,
thank you so much for taking the
644
00:22:06,940 --> 00:22:09,140
(Skyler)::
time out of your day to sit down
with me and talk about this
645
00:22:09,140 --> 00:22:11,259
(Skyler)::
awesome project again.
646
00:22:11,259 --> 00:22:12,140
(Skyler)::
You're excited for it.
647
00:22:12,140 --> 00:22:15,160
(Skyler)::
I'm sure everybody else in Des
Moines and anybody else on the
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Thank you again.
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Thank you so much for taking the
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Welcome to another episode of
Laying the Foundation.
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Welcome, everybody, to another
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episode of the Laying the
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Foundation podcast.
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My name is Skylar.
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I'm your host.
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But more importantly, today, one
of our our special guests that
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we're going to be having is
Andrew Miller from over at our
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Des Moines office, one of our
amazing architects there.
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Andrew, welcome to the show.
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Great to be here.
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Awesome. Great to have you.
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I think this is the first time
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you've been on an episode,
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right?
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It is.
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Yeah.
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Right on.
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Awesome.
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Well, excited to have you here.
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Uh, talking about a really cool
project.
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Gilbert elementary school, uh,
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over in Gilbert, uh, Iowa,
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right?
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Yes.
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Perfect. So first of all, I
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guess we'll start from the
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beginning.
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How did we get this project?
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You know, how were we approached
about it?
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Was it something that we did
sort of a bid on or something
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along those lines?
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Like how did how did we end up
with this?
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So this is actually a project
that we interviewed for.
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Um, and at that point it was for
master planning services.
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So they, they're, uh, they're
growing pretty rapidly.
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So they knew that they needed
more space, but they weren't
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exactly sure how to tackle it
and how to allocate their
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resources in the best manner.
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So that's how we got our foot in
the door is by interviewing for
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that master planning service.
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plan which ultimately led to
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this project, which is a new
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elementary school.
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Right on.
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So we, you know, did all the did
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all the master plan work led to
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something more?
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of this project or like the
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larger project, I guess you
could say, because we've been
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doing a lot of stuff for Gilbert
schools, haven't we?
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There's actually six projects
within the district, so.
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involved in practically the
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whole campus at this point, it
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sounds like.
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So that's really cool.
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That's awesome.
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So I guess starting from the
beginning, right, we've got,
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we're focusing on the elementary
school for this episode.
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percent of the homes in Gilbert
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were actually kind of in a
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direct path to the school from
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their backyards.
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the homes in the area that are
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like actively touching the
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school.
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How, how is that affecting our
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exterior of the building?
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Obviously, since it's connecting
to so many different people?
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Well, the twenty percent, it
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started kind of anecdotally
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where you can step into their
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existing site and realize that,
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backyard.
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historical satellite imagery and
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the town and how it's
intentional that the
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neighborhoods are kind of
encapsulating of this site and
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even the newer neighborhoods.
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they're built around parks and
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each park has this kind of path
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that's like connecting
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everything.
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adjacent to this school, it has
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that kind of like small town
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feel where you can hop out the
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back door, get on a bike path,
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and you're at the school in a
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minute.
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So it started out really as just
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intentional it was, we really
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decided to make that kind of the
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feature of the exterior where we
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tried to pull in materials, um,
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colors and have this building
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fit in with the neighborhood
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because it really, it's a part
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of it.
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It's so interwoven that we
didn't want to do anything that
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is new or flashier than
everything else around it.
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So we use some wood tones, some
concrete tones.
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We use a lot of brick textures,
stuff that is, it's really you
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can see it in the building or in
the house next door.
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That's kind of how we designed
the school exterior was.
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Kind of keeping things
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consistent, keeping things so it
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doesn't feel like it's really
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out of place or kind of weirdly
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poking out or something like
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that.
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Yeah.
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Awesome.
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And I mean, obviously it makes
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sense that the community would
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kind of build itself around that
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because I mean, as a parent,
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right?
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Like sending my, my kid to go
walk to school can be kind of a
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nerve wracking thing.
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And I know that it's basically
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through our backyard and then
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bada bing, bada boom, you're
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there.
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That's, that's kind of nice,
right?
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Like, that's a nice feature.
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It's kind of unique to Gilbert.
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A lot of other small towns kind
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of have it, but not every school
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district is as fortunate as them
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that they planned it out so
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well.
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Absolutely.
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So were there any like
challenges or, or complications
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that kind of arose because of
the fact that you're trying to
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build this new facility kind of
right by because it was right by
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the old one.
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This is a full like new build.
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And then on top of it, you've
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got, you know, everybody's
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backyards in the picture as
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well.
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Yeah. So there have definitely
been a lot of conversations
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regarding construction, a lot
of, um, a lot of just things to
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consider construction wise.
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And luckily we thought about
those during design.
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So just making sure that there's
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no way that a child is ever even
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in proximity to the construction
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site.
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Mhm.
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Making sure that all of our
construction items are away from
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the school and in a safe manner.
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That's that was probably the
biggest consideration that we
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had to take.
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And obviously some parts of the
site had to be shut down just
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(Andrew)::
because you can't use the bike
path when we're taking over it.
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So some of those features, yeah,
we did have to, um, temporarily
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shut them down.
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But hopefully in the long term
it's a benefit.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Going off of kind of what you
said earlier, you mentioned, you
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know, kind of trying to make the
school fit in design wise to the
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rest of the community.
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But did we do anything to also,
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as weird as it might sound,
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stand out from the rest of the
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area around it for those that
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might be driving by and they
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want to differentiate, here's
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the school, here's elements of
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the community kind of a thing we
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did.
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We incorporated a lot of signage
and we used their, their school
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colors in the facade as well.
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So it's not all what I would say
is like your generic materials
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that you're finding.
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We found ways to incorporate
their school colors and school
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logos so that you understood
exactly what it was.
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Perfect.
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Yeah, because obviously we want,
you know, again, this facility
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is the school.
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We want people to know it's the
school.
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It's kind of like what we talk
about with healthcare facilities
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Signage is important.
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Being able to identify where it
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you've got a full campus here,
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you've got the elementary,
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middle school, etc. you want
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Making things notable while
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of the community, which I think
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tone here?
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Let's try to make sure that this
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we've got sort of this smaller
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very hospitable, which is
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play off of, match that energy.
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There's definitely a fine line
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far on either side where you're
getting a new building.
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It better look like a new
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You better be on the cutting
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If it's going to last for fifty
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like it's some part of the
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disrespecting what's there.
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So there's definitely a healthy
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something that I think is really
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cool about what we do is seeing
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how we juggle those two areas
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research and we know a lot of
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What are other people doing with
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facilities?
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of education and stuff like
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I think that's really cool.
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course, they're kind of behind a
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superintendent and so forth.
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working every day with the kids,
trying to help educate them?
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How are we working with the
teachers, for example, to make
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this particular project.
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How did we do it to make this
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So we had, I'm not sure the
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meetings where we talked with
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sessions where we tried to
really understand exactly what
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their needs are.
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this was early in the design
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developed this floor plan and
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what we think that they were
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on site what we thought was a
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normal meeting, but they were
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actually what they call they,
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they had a day of play where
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they kind of abandoned their
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traditional methodologies.
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They're not in really sitting
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different activity in each
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hallways running and jumping.
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important activity was and how
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they used their classrooms
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became really real.
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that experience to think if
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they're able to do all this
activity in a building where the
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previous architect could have
never dreamed of all the
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activities that's happening in
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do with a building that was
intentionally created for that.
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actually seeing them in that day
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of play in action on what they
want to do was really eye
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opening for us.
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product overall.
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Absolutely.
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And it's exactly what we were
saying before, right?
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We're making this specific to
the user or the community or,
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you know, the students and the
teachers that are there.
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It's not one size fits all.
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That's obviously the best way to
design, right?
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What do you need?
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What do you specifically want in
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And let's do, let's do design
based on that.
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think one of the teachers had
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kind of mentioned the idea of a
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seasonal concept, or maybe that
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was your guys's concept of
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creating based around the theme
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of seasons.
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Can you tell me a little bit
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Yeah. So we had developed this
floor plan and we kind of knew
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what each grade got.
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Each grade had the same amount
of classrooms that spill out
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into a central space.
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supposed to be for this
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activity, this activity and this
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activity.
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develop that into some sort of
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different experience in each
what we're calling neighborhood.
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Uh, we didn't want each one to
look exactly the same.
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differentiating, which in
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previous schools, we've tackled
it a lot of different ways.
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use signage, you can use all
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sorts of different wayfinding
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with the client, they, they
really challenged us to is
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making it an experience and not
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a different color.
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building that grew with the
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students.
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really clung to this season's
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students are in the spring, kind
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which is where you start to see
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grader, you're in the fall and
your, your leaves are ready to
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fall off and you're ready to
move on to a different school.
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So, um, it's really an
experiential thing where we
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don't just want them to feel
different or look different.
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We want the experience to be
different.
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Even though you have the exact
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same amount of classroom center
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spaces, etc..
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And I love it.
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There's very metaphorical, uh,
concepts here with the seasons.
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Like you said, you start out in
spring, you're, you're just
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sprouting, you're growing all
the way down to fall where
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you've kind of reached that,
that highest level.
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And I'm sure with design, you
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to who are in the spring and
they look over and they see, you
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know, the summer and the fall
classes and like you said,
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differentiate, you know, be able
to say, hey, those are that's
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where I'm going to be next year
and have kind of an excitement
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and be excited to, to be a part
of that as well.
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With that being said, did we
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have spaces that brought it all
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together that kind of brought
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together all the, the different
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seasons, these different
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students for different age
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groups?
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Yeah. The culmination is really
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the very center of the building.
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So each grade has very like
equal adjacency to this space
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and their media center.
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Even in their old media center,
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more than just a place for
books, a place to sit down and
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read your book.
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It's really a gathering space.
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It's a space where entire grades
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go there and they can read
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aloud.
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So we, we really tried to make
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hub within the building.
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And so there are books, there is
storage, but it's really focused
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on that gathering space.
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And there's a mural that has all
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four seasons kind of growing,
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and each of the neighborhoods
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has its own like whimsical tree
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with curving branches going
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through it.
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And the media center has that as
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So it takes pieces from each
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neighborhood, but tries to
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combine them right in that that
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gathering area of the media
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center.
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(Skyler)::
Awesome.
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Awesome opportunities for story
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times and again, collaborative
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group stuff, which is really
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cool.
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Very good opportunity.
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And I love how we took the
concept of a media center and we
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made it very literal because we
kept it in the center.
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I think that's kind of a fun
play on words there.
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Maybe that's just me, I don't
know.
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With that being said, you
mentioned earlier that the
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students like to be very active.
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(Skyler)::
They have that kind of fun time.
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(Skyler)::
How did we design their spaces,
regardless of what season they
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(Skyler)::
might be in, to be able to
accommodate for all of this?
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(Skyler)::
Maybe physical activity, right?
411
00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,539
(Skyler)::
The media center is kind of more
like sit down, read your books
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(Skyler)::
and things like that.
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(Skyler)::
Whereas you might want a lot of
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(Skyler)::
opportunity for play and
415
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(Skyler)::
physical activity.
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00:14:10,179 --> 00:14:12,019
(Skyler)::
How are we balancing that?
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00:14:11,860 --> 00:14:13,299
(Andrew)::
So I think first and foremost, a
418
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(Andrew)::
lot of that's accomplished with
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(Andrew)::
furniture, which we were
420
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(Andrew)::
involved with onboarding a
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(Andrew)::
furniture vendor with the
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(Andrew)::
school.
423
00:14:20,539 --> 00:14:24,100
(Andrew)::
We were in all of the meetings
kind of saying, this is what we
424
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(Andrew)::
imagined the space to be, what
can you do with it?
425
00:14:26,259 --> 00:14:29,399
(Andrew)::
And so we took some of those
visions of how they would be
426
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(Andrew)::
acting in the spaces and
purchased furniture that was
427
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(Andrew)::
specifically catered to that.
428
00:14:33,860 --> 00:14:38,440
(Andrew)::
I think architecturally, our
biggest job is to get rid of any
429
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(Andrew)::
obstacles that would prevent
them from using the space in the
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(Andrew)::
way that they want it.
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(Andrew)::
So if we have mobile furniture,
making sure that they have a
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(Andrew)::
space to store it or put it up
against the wall, making sure
433
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(Andrew)::
that they have plenty of storage
elsewhere so that things aren't
434
00:14:53,460 --> 00:14:55,740
(Andrew)::
just lingering out in the
classrooms and hard to clean.
435
00:14:55,740 --> 00:14:58,259
(Andrew)::
We want to make that as
configurable as possible.
436
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(Andrew)::
And then there's other things
like if they're going to be
437
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(Andrew)::
using water in the space, making
sure that they have the ability
438
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(Andrew)::
for water and the ability to
clean it up.
439
00:15:05,769 --> 00:15:07,850
(Andrew)::
And it's really.
440
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(Andrew)::
Architecturally speaking, the
main goal is to just reduce any
441
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(Andrew)::
obstacles and make sure that
they have access to everything,
442
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(Andrew)::
because we can say this is how
we imagine the space to be used.
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(Andrew)::
Ten years from now, they're
going to have a totally
444
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(Andrew)::
different list, and we want to
make sure that they have access
445
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(Andrew)::
to everything that they need.
446
00:15:24,129 --> 00:15:25,169
(Skyler)::
Absolutely, absolutely.
447
00:15:25,169 --> 00:15:26,769
(Skyler)::
Planning for the future, which
448
00:15:26,769 --> 00:15:27,970
(Skyler)::
we've said it before, and we'll
449
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(Skyler)::
say it again, we don't have a
450
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(Skyler)::
crystal ball.
451
00:15:29,529 --> 00:15:30,409
(Skyler)::
We can't foresee that.
452
00:15:30,409 --> 00:15:32,570
(Skyler)::
We don't know exactly how
they're going to use it, but
453
00:15:32,570 --> 00:15:36,570
(Skyler)::
making it so that regardless of
how they decide to change things
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(Skyler)::
or do things in the future, we
have opportunities to adjust
455
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(Skyler)::
what we've designed and we've
put forward to, to accommodate
456
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(Skyler)::
for that, which is really cool.
457
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(Skyler)::
It's the best we can, you know,
458
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(Skyler)::
it's the best that we as humans
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(Skyler)::
can do because we don't have we
460
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(Skyler)::
don't have the ability to see
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(Skyler)::
the future per se, but we can
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00:15:51,529 --> 00:15:52,490
(Skyler)::
prepare to the best of our
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(Skyler)::
abilities.
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00:15:53,090 --> 00:15:56,129
(Skyler)::
So you mentioned at the
beginning, obviously the school,
465
00:15:56,129 --> 00:15:58,769
(Skyler)::
everything, the community was
really built around the school.
466
00:15:58,769 --> 00:16:02,809
(Skyler)::
So obviously the school is a
pretty important element of it.
467
00:16:02,809 --> 00:16:07,309
(Skyler)::
If we're looking at after hours
for the school, how is how is it
468
00:16:07,309 --> 00:16:12,029
(Skyler)::
being used for the community's
benefit outside of just being a
469
00:16:12,029 --> 00:16:13,870
(Skyler)::
school, right, for their kids?
470
00:16:13,669 --> 00:16:15,629
(Andrew)::
So one component of that is the
community.
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00:16:15,629 --> 00:16:18,470
(Andrew)::
The other component is the other
schools within the district.
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00:16:18,470 --> 00:16:19,990
(Andrew)::
As I said, we're we're touching
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(Andrew)::
almost every school within the
474
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(Andrew)::
district.
475
00:16:21,669 --> 00:16:24,190
(Andrew)::
They they're growing to a point
476
00:16:24,190 --> 00:16:26,309
(Andrew)::
where we wanted to make sure
477
00:16:26,309 --> 00:16:28,190
(Andrew)::
that they would have a space for
478
00:16:28,190 --> 00:16:28,710
(Andrew)::
everything.
479
00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:34,110
(Andrew)::
So, um, we made this the right
when you walk in the door is
480
00:16:34,110 --> 00:16:37,690
(Andrew)::
kind of a public space, a space
where if a community member
481
00:16:37,690 --> 00:16:42,029
(Andrew)::
wanted to maybe have an event at
some point, we could have that.
482
00:16:42,029 --> 00:16:43,149
(Andrew)::
If the school opted to do that
483
00:16:43,149 --> 00:16:44,750
(Andrew)::
down the line, if the high
484
00:16:44,750 --> 00:16:46,070
(Andrew)::
school needed an additional
485
00:16:46,070 --> 00:16:47,710
(Andrew)::
place to practice, they have a
486
00:16:47,710 --> 00:16:49,190
(Andrew)::
full size gymnasium and not a
487
00:16:49,190 --> 00:16:50,830
(Andrew)::
half size gymnasium, so they're
488
00:16:50,830 --> 00:16:52,409
(Andrew)::
very conscious choices to make
489
00:16:52,409 --> 00:16:54,350
(Andrew)::
sure that the space could be
490
00:16:54,350 --> 00:16:55,429
(Andrew)::
used for more than just
491
00:16:55,429 --> 00:16:56,470
(Andrew)::
elementary school.
492
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:59,029
(Andrew)::
And this was early in design.
493
00:16:59,029 --> 00:17:01,389
(Andrew)::
We wanted to make sure that
those adjacencies were there so
494
00:17:01,389 --> 00:17:04,609
(Andrew)::
that we could still have as
secure of a building as
495
00:17:04,609 --> 00:17:08,369
(Andrew)::
possible, so we can
compartmentalize those spaces
496
00:17:08,369 --> 00:17:11,849
(Andrew)::
without ever accessing the
student spaces, without ever
497
00:17:11,849 --> 00:17:14,730
(Andrew)::
going into somebody's classroom
or office or private space.
498
00:17:14,730 --> 00:17:18,390
(Andrew)::
So I think being thoughtful
about that in the very beginning
499
00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:23,250
(Andrew)::
helped us to really enact that
and to make it secure while
500
00:17:23,250 --> 00:17:24,809
(Andrew)::
still being public, right?
501
00:17:24,609 --> 00:17:25,730
(Skyler)::
Because it's always, yeah, big
502
00:17:25,730 --> 00:17:27,329
(Skyler)::
challenge is maintaining
503
00:17:27,329 --> 00:17:28,329
(Skyler)::
security.
504
00:17:28,329 --> 00:17:31,089
(Skyler)::
One of the first episodes we did
was, you know, designing
505
00:17:31,089 --> 00:17:32,009
(Skyler)::
schools, not prisons.
506
00:17:32,009 --> 00:17:33,210
(Skyler)::
We want it to be very secure,
507
00:17:33,210 --> 00:17:34,369
(Skyler)::
but we still want it to be
508
00:17:34,369 --> 00:17:37,049
(Skyler)::
accessible and not feel like
509
00:17:37,049 --> 00:17:38,650
(Skyler)::
you're just trapped in a box or
510
00:17:38,650 --> 00:17:39,769
(Skyler)::
a cage or something along those
511
00:17:39,769 --> 00:17:40,049
(Skyler)::
lines.
512
00:17:40,049 --> 00:17:43,150
(Skyler)::
So yeah, being able to access it
from the community standpoint
513
00:17:43,150 --> 00:17:46,569
(Skyler)::
for beneficial uses to the
community, but then also keeping
514
00:17:46,569 --> 00:17:49,730
(Skyler)::
it safe and secure, which is
it's a tricky juggle, but
515
00:17:49,730 --> 00:17:53,829
(Skyler)::
obviously you guys have figured
out a lot of very good, clever
516
00:17:53,829 --> 00:17:56,650
(Skyler)::
ways of doing that to make sure
that it works.
517
00:17:56,450 --> 00:18:00,750
(Andrew)::
So the sooner you think about
it, the the easier it is to
518
00:18:00,750 --> 00:18:01,809
(Andrew)::
really enact it.
519
00:18:01,809 --> 00:18:04,440
(Andrew)::
If that comes up when the floor
plans are already set that, hey,
520
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,279
(Andrew)::
we want other people to use it.
521
00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:07,759
(Andrew)::
It gets really hard, right?
522
00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:10,480
(Skyler)::
You gotta pretty much scrap the
old idea and be like, oh man, we
523
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,920
(Skyler)::
gotta rework so much to ensure
that we have the things in place
524
00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:14,960
(Skyler)::
to be able to do that.
525
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,240
(Skyler)::
So that makes sense.
526
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,759
(Skyler)::
So when we're looking at maybe
527
00:18:17,759 --> 00:18:18,980
(Skyler)::
some of the more outdoor
528
00:18:18,980 --> 00:18:20,900
(Skyler)::
elements of this, you mentioned,
529
00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:22,000
(Skyler)::
like bike trails had to be
530
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,359
(Skyler)::
closed down while this was being
531
00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:23,799
(Skyler)::
worked on.
532
00:18:23,799 --> 00:18:26,079
(Skyler)::
So what did we do with the new
533
00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:28,059
(Skyler)::
facility, the new build, to
534
00:18:28,059 --> 00:18:29,440
(Skyler)::
allow for some more outside
535
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,920
(Skyler)::
activity or enhance the outside
536
00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,000
(Skyler)::
activity that might have already
537
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:32,599
(Skyler)::
been there?
538
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,039
(Andrew)::
Yeah. So one component of this
539
00:18:34,039 --> 00:18:36,559
(Andrew)::
project is a playground upgrade,
540
00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:37,839
(Andrew)::
which they have a playground
541
00:18:37,839 --> 00:18:39,599
(Andrew)::
that's very instrumental to the
542
00:18:39,599 --> 00:18:40,119
(Andrew)::
community.
543
00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,480
(Andrew)::
Been there for a long time.
544
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,720
(Andrew)::
They have this like hill that
slides can come down, which is
545
00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,720
(Andrew)::
really it's a beloved piece.
546
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,900
(Andrew)::
It's a tricky piece to design
around, but we're kind of
547
00:18:50,900 --> 00:18:54,039
(Andrew)::
upgrading that and giving it a
facelift, introducing new
548
00:18:54,039 --> 00:18:55,599
(Andrew)::
slides, safer slides.
549
00:18:55,599 --> 00:18:58,559
(Andrew)::
So we are updating that
playground, giving them some
550
00:18:58,559 --> 00:18:59,680
(Andrew)::
more play area.
551
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,039
(Andrew)::
Athletics and sporting are so
552
00:19:02,039 --> 00:19:03,910
(Andrew)::
instrumental to the community
553
00:19:03,910 --> 00:19:05,400
(Andrew)::
starting at a young age, going
554
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:06,059
(Andrew)::
upwards to.
555
00:19:06,059 --> 00:19:07,539
(Andrew)::
So there are so many ball
556
00:19:07,539 --> 00:19:10,099
(Andrew)::
fields, soccer fields that young
557
00:19:10,099 --> 00:19:10,700
(Andrew)::
kids need.
558
00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:11,700
(Andrew)::
Old kids need too.
559
00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:14,779
(Andrew)::
So I think thinking through some
of those and making sure that we
560
00:19:14,779 --> 00:19:17,380
(Andrew)::
were able to keep what was
already there and make it better
561
00:19:17,380 --> 00:19:18,019
(Andrew)::
if we could.
562
00:19:18,019 --> 00:19:19,640
(Andrew)::
There was a really active
563
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,220
(Andrew)::
exercise early on and making
564
00:19:22,220 --> 00:19:23,619
(Andrew)::
sure that the site was working,
565
00:19:23,619 --> 00:19:24,779
(Andrew)::
and that we still had those
566
00:19:24,779 --> 00:19:26,900
(Andrew)::
areas for athletics for all
567
00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:27,539
(Andrew)::
ages.
568
00:19:27,380 --> 00:19:29,660
(Skyler)::
Awesome. And I think that's,
it's one of those things that if
569
00:19:29,660 --> 00:19:33,559
(Skyler)::
I, if I live within that
community and the school, the
570
00:19:33,559 --> 00:19:37,059
(Skyler)::
again, playground or other
equipment like that or spaces
571
00:19:37,059 --> 00:19:39,900
(Skyler)::
like that are in my backyard, I
mean, I'm going to be itching to
572
00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:40,579
(Skyler)::
go use them.
573
00:19:40,579 --> 00:19:43,900
(Skyler)::
So it's good that it's being put
together in such a way that it
574
00:19:43,900 --> 00:19:44,859
(Skyler)::
really enhances it.
575
00:19:44,859 --> 00:19:49,579
(Skyler)::
Because I mean, man, that'd be a
real bummer to live right next
576
00:19:49,579 --> 00:19:52,299
(Skyler)::
door to the school and not be
able to go run over and go on
577
00:19:52,299 --> 00:19:54,380
(Skyler)::
the slide or go on the swings
whenever I want to.
578
00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:55,980
(Skyler)::
So and then, okay, so you'll
579
00:19:55,980 --> 00:19:58,140
(Skyler)::
have to remind me, when is this
580
00:19:58,140 --> 00:19:59,900
(Skyler)::
project completed or are we
581
00:19:59,900 --> 00:20:01,140
(Skyler)::
putting on the finishing touches
582
00:20:01,140 --> 00:20:01,740
(Skyler)::
here?
583
00:20:01,539 --> 00:20:05,490
(Andrew)::
It's going to be complete for
the next school year.
584
00:20:05,329 --> 00:20:06,089
(Skyler)::
For the next school year.
585
00:20:06,089 --> 00:20:06,970
(Skyler)::
Okay. Perfect.
586
00:20:06,970 --> 00:20:07,369
(Skyler)::
Awesome.
587
00:20:07,369 --> 00:20:12,210
(Skyler)::
So I guess the question remains,
when they do get a chance to go
588
00:20:12,210 --> 00:20:14,849
(Skyler)::
in there, what's going to be
kind of like that first moment
589
00:20:14,849 --> 00:20:17,690
(Skyler)::
that when they walk in there and
see the space, they're going to
590
00:20:17,690 --> 00:20:19,529
(Skyler)::
be super stoked and excited for?
591
00:20:19,529 --> 00:20:21,250
(Skyler)::
What do you think they're going
to be running at?
592
00:20:21,049 --> 00:20:22,170
(Andrew)::
I think it's going to be those
593
00:20:22,170 --> 00:20:23,609
(Andrew)::
center spaces that are outside
594
00:20:23,609 --> 00:20:25,250
(Andrew)::
of each classroom that's really
595
00:20:25,250 --> 00:20:26,009
(Andrew)::
taking the place of a
596
00:20:26,009 --> 00:20:27,529
(Andrew)::
traditional hallway.
597
00:20:27,529 --> 00:20:30,650
(Andrew)::
So a lot of times what would
normally happen is students
598
00:20:30,650 --> 00:20:32,690
(Andrew)::
would exit the classroom right
into a hallway, and that's how
599
00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:35,329
(Andrew)::
they were using the hallways
during the day of play.
600
00:20:35,329 --> 00:20:37,970
(Andrew)::
Now they have this extremely
wide open space.
601
00:20:37,970 --> 00:20:39,890
(Andrew)::
There's presentation areas.
602
00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:41,210
(Andrew)::
There's that whimsical tree
603
00:20:41,210 --> 00:20:42,250
(Andrew)::
element where you can actually
604
00:20:42,250 --> 00:20:44,089
(Andrew)::
go inside of the tree and have
605
00:20:44,089 --> 00:20:46,450
(Andrew)::
like a, a little, um, like small
606
00:20:46,450 --> 00:20:47,049
(Andrew)::
group space.
607
00:20:47,049 --> 00:20:48,930
(Andrew)::
So there's all sorts of nooks
608
00:20:48,930 --> 00:20:50,450
(Andrew)::
and crannies within that space
609
00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:53,250
(Andrew)::
where I go back to seeing that
610
00:20:53,250 --> 00:20:54,529
(Andrew)::
day of play, where they're able
611
00:20:54,529 --> 00:20:56,210
(Andrew)::
to do so much with a building
612
00:20:56,210 --> 00:20:57,329
(Andrew)::
where that was never even
613
00:20:57,329 --> 00:20:57,930
(Andrew)::
thought about.
614
00:20:57,930 --> 00:21:00,890
(Andrew)::
I'm very excited to see what
they can do with a building that
615
00:21:00,890 --> 00:21:03,130
(Andrew)::
they thought very hard about it.
616
00:21:02,930 --> 00:21:03,549
(Skyler)::
Right?
617
00:21:03,549 --> 00:21:04,549
(Skyler)::
Absolutely.
618
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:07,789
(Skyler)::
It's the perfect fulfillment of,
again, what they were hoping for
619
00:21:07,789 --> 00:21:09,029
(Skyler)::
and what they were looking for.
620
00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:10,549
(Skyler)::
So perfect, I think.
621
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:12,710
(Skyler)::
I mean, that's everything that I
have from my end.
622
00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:16,349
(Skyler)::
If I missed anything, don't
hesitate to say, hey, Skyler,
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(Skyler)::
but anything else that you want
to mention about this project or
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(Skyler)::
the process that you, you guys
went through to put it together?
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(Andrew)::
Just it was an insanely fun
project to work on.
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(Andrew)::
This was a great school
district.
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(Andrew)::
It really is kind of a dream
client where there's no idea
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(Andrew)::
that was too far out there.
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(Andrew)::
They were not afraid to say, I
like this idea, but what if we
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(Andrew)::
did this, this, this and this?
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(Andrew)::
And when the envelope is pushed
so far, I think it really
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(Andrew)::
elevates the final design.
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(Andrew)::
So I'm really proud of how it is
turning out.
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(Andrew)::
I can't wait to see it open up
next fall.
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(Skyler)::
Yeah, absolutely.
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(Skyler)::
That's going to be awesome.
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(Skyler)::
I hope that, uh, either I'm able
to get pictures there or maybe
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(Skyler)::
somebody else's, uh, from the,
from the Des Moines office is
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(Skyler)::
able to get pictures because I'm
sure that'll be a really
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(Skyler)::
exciting moment for the school
and of course, for us at the
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(Skyler)::
MBA, since we're the ones that
do the design work for it, it's
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(Skyler)::
always exciting to see the final
project at the end.
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(Skyler)::
So, whatever the case, Andrew,
thank you so much for taking the
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(Skyler)::
time out of your day to sit down
with me and talk about this
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(Skyler)::
awesome project again.
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(Skyler)::
You're excited for it.
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(Skyler)::
I'm sure everybody else in Des
Moines and anybody else on the
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(Skyler)::
team are excited too, to see it
open here in the fall.
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(Skyler)::
So awesome.
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(Skyler)::
Thank you again.
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(Skyler)::
Thank you so much for taking the
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(Skyler)::
time to to chat with me about
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(Skyler)::
it.
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(Andrew)::
Thanks, Skylar.
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