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On 13 October 2026, the day after a Future Text Lab session, Frode Hegland and Mark Anderson had a long one-to-one call, with Frode working from the quiet upstairs room of a café in town. It began with Mark clarifying that his question the previous day about how references are stored had not been a criticism but an attempt to understand what information was actually available, a thread that came back later in the call. From there the conversation ran across three connected subjects. The first, and the one that took most of the time, was the design of spatial workspaces for knowledge work: how an environment that contains everything in a library, every document, concept and citation, can show almost nothing by default and still let its user reach anything quickly. The second was the relationship between maps and writing, including Mark's long-held view that a map is for planning rather than composing, and what that means for Author and for the new concept-and-document workspace Frode is building. The third was publishing infrastructure: citation data as ground truth, the Citation Style Language file Mark has built for ACM, and whether academic authoring tools are ready for EPUB, tested live by exporting an EPUB from Google Docs and opening it in Origami Text. https://futuretextlab.info/2026/10/15/13-october-mark-frode/