Lanterns - “Bad Optics” (S1, E6)

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Speaker 1: The frames per second podcast.
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Speaker 2: What's going on it's your boy nick i'm here with kenneth bianch hola super producer j aka doc how.
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Speaker 3: You doing man i'm good bro you i'm all right.
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Speaker 2: And i am spiked through the on deck tv show and another week in the books how you doing bro what up brother Pretty good, pretty good. And you're now tuning into the Franks for Second podcast. And in this episode, we are continuing on with our weekly recaps of the hit series, Lanterns. With this recap being dedicated to episode six, titled Bad Optics. Speaking of Bad Optics.
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Speaker 2: They had a lot to say about the last episode, Lou. They was saying all types of shit about me. oh man yeah hey shit that was so funny oh oh oh i went too far on the lay i thought it was a joke i apologize but the funniest thing is what happens is the black community i think their image is black so i'm assuming they black but she hit me with the jay you like outcast bro she hit me with that dick you ain't find no way She's like, you ain't no Airbnb, nigga.
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Speaker 3: She's like, I find it funny that y'all so focused on looks when ain't none of y'all fine. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Hey, shout out to her, boy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, beauty's in the eye of the bold.
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Speaker 2: That shit was funny. Oh, that shit was funny. But this is a hit, Ken, because I don't think she would be coming over here if we were just talking about anything. She's coming here because she's looking for a black perspective on a show that's popular. And I lead into that with the review as far as first overall thoughts. Lou, this may be a top four show for the year for me, the way it's going. Am I crazy? Because I really like this episode. The world building they've done in this... I remember you told me you were like, Brian, I hate when shows plan for the next season. They do storylines for the next season while they're still currently in season. Tell the story from this point of perspective. Keep me locked in. Don't tell me you're going to have something five episodes down the line when we're already right here. And I feel like what they did was in the opposite way, but very.
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Speaker 2: Well done as far as they actually gave you two seasons in one. Like, this is now, like, the first three episodes I'm looking at for, like, the second season. I think we talked about that last episode. And I'm still locked in. Like, I'm actually more interested in this story now that that one's on. And they wrapped that up. You could have ended last episode and said, I'm walking away from the show, and that's it.
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Speaker 5: Facts.
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Speaker 3: You feel the same?
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Speaker 2: Nah, I'm going to watch it right after I've done this review. I tried to tune out y'all. chatted last time because.
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Speaker 3: Or just he asked because you said top four show that's why you asked that's.
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Speaker 2: How i'm even wrong because like linus is already top three.
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Speaker 3: Man it's it's a tough year for tv shows making a top 10 list but what i will say is this yes i agree with you and what they're planning for ahead i got a question for y'all too i don't know if we want to do a hero later on in the episode as far as to the what you just was talking about dick and planning ahead and how they're piecing this world together. But yeah, I'm still here for it. I still like it. I didn't like this episode as much as I like the rest of it, but it's still good. It's still intriguing. It's still good TV. What's your question? Do you want to ask now?
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Speaker 2: I totally forgot. I totally forgot. The funniest thing is he literally did what he said he don't like shows doing. He told me to come back later to do something that ain't got nothing to do with that.
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Speaker 3: I completely forgot this dude with the mob thing. He is the Green Lantern in some of the movies, right? Yeah, in the Superman. Yeah, Guy Gardner.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he is.
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Speaker 3: So how is that playing into this?
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Speaker 2: It plays directly. It gives you backstory on why he's the Green Lantern.
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Speaker 3: That's it. Ain't the whole point of this show Okay so now I'm confused In the sense of the whole point of this show I thought that eventually even though they were Delaying it that Aaron Paul was going to be the Green Lantern So we don't know.
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Speaker 6: That We got two episodes left It ain't over yet You ask me questions like He can easily still be that.
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Speaker 2: I thought it was only one Green Lantern But the next Superman movie he's in it As Green Lantern.
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Speaker 3: Well, we don't know if he's in it. We don't know.
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Speaker 2: We don't know how they're going to do it, but he's going to be a Green Lantern in the next Superman movie.
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Speaker 4: I don't even know if that's confirmed. I just know he's in it.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 2: Can you think he ain't going to be a Green Lantern by the end of this? You think they're going to waste our time doing this? That's what I'm asking.
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Speaker 3: It's on the table, though.
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Speaker 2: You acting like it's not on the table. It's not on the table.
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Speaker 3: It is on the table. We don't know. It's on the table. I think it make it better.
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Speaker 4: Spike, the way you thinking is the way to think about it. Don't think about what, like, that's what I'm saying. Like, that's the part I do be hating about the interconnected shit, too, is niggas have to, like, go to the extreme and try to put it together.
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Speaker 3: It's okay, bro.
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Speaker 2: We don't know.
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Speaker 3: We don't know. The movie isn't out yet. We just know that he is filming for the movie. That's it.
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Speaker 4: We don't know what the plot point is in the movie that he's doing.
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Speaker 3: He could be the dude that we seen in this episode in the movie.
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Speaker 2: Can you ever see a show or a movie that has the name Clark Kent in it and he don't be Superman?
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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. Smallville, nigga. Smallville, nigga.
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Speaker 2: And if you, unlike me, if you would have watched it to the beginning to the end, you would have seen he became Superman.
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Speaker 3: It took till the end for him to become Superman, nigga.
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Speaker 2: And I'm just saying, I think you're only going to get one season of this show. This ain't going to be a season two, season three.
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Speaker 3: This is it.
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Speaker 2: This is Lantern. So after this, it's over with.
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Speaker 1: Nick, I'm going to pull one of your moves. And you love saying this. What's the title of the show? It's not Jon Stewart.
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Speaker 2: I hate when people use points against you.
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Speaker 3: They cut you deep because they be like, God damn.
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Speaker 2: But that is a great point. All I'm saying is, Lou, in the comics, Jon Stewart is a Green Lantern. That's all we know. He ain't in the comics because of Jon. He ain't in the comics because of Stewart. He's in the comics because he's a Green Lantern. Don't give a fuck about Jon Stewart if he's not Green Lantern. As this show is showing, his family don't give a fuck about Jon Stewart. He ain't Green Lantern.
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Speaker 3: Exactly. All I'm saying is something's got to happen to the other Green Lantern. That's all I'm saying because there's only one of them. I'm just wondering what happens to everybody else.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we got two episodes left. That's all I'm trying to tell you. We got time left to see what they do. Jay trying to just let you just be like, don't even worry about it. Just watch the show for the show. I'm trying to tell you the truth. Okay, okay.
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Speaker 4: Hey, Spike, he was telling you the truth ever since we got started and what them comments been telling you about his truth.
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Speaker 2: Those are separate. I tell you theories as well. But when the streets call, kid, listen, I got the phone right here. Keep it close. But so Lou said he was kind of lukewarm on his episode.
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Speaker 3: What about you, Jay? Okay.
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Speaker 4: I was looking forward for a little bit of the episode, but I think the ending really brought it home for me.
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Speaker 3: It really made the episode.
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Speaker 2: Much better.
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Speaker 4: While it was going on, I definitely was just like, all right, cool, because you gave me a high in the last episode, you know what I'm saying? So I know we had to come back to Earth, but it was like too much of a low. It was moving a little bit too slow, but yeah. I'm not a folk with this. This is probably, is this my least favorite? Maybe, maybe, but still a good episode.
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Speaker 3: Can you like it?
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm, I'm damn, I feel just like Jalen. Like, um, yeah, it was the same thing for me. Uh, when we were like three quarters of a way through, I'm like.
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Speaker 5: Okay, what are we doing here?
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Speaker 1: Is this just, we just went kind of want to move on, but the ending definitely saved it for me.
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Speaker 2: I may be weird because I really like this episode because.
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Speaker 3: You all wait, but continue.
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Speaker 2: But it's because I told you about this, that Law & Order channel that I watch on Samsung TV. And it's just Law & Order episodes all the time from the old one to the modern day, whatever. And it's hella detective shit. Some of them be goofy cases and all that, but like... When I'm looking at this episode, I'm really like, it's just a detective episode. Like, niggas literally doing the groundwork from the jump. And also, it was hella nigga shit in there, which is why I'm surprised y'all ain't fucked with it. Because it was hella nigga shit in here. That shit was.
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Speaker 3: Just like, bro, what?
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Speaker 2: Like, Lou, if I passed away, let's say unfortunately, Dr. Wood, I passed away, and you would have solved the case, you would kind of do it in this way. You know what I'm saying? And we're going to go into it. So I'll explain my point later why I really enjoyed it. Maybe y'all think it's stupid, but whatever. We start off this episode, this is the first time since the end of the first episode where we're back in 2026 fully present time where, we're not, you know, obviously where we think we are. Because at the end of the first episode, we're in 2026 where John is finding Hal's dead body. But in this episode, we start off with John in a room full of executives trying to sell them on these panic rooms and shit. Ken, what did you think about how we started off this episode?
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Speaker 3: I thought it was good.
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Speaker 1: He clearly has a lot of confidence, but he's a Marine. He's had a lot of confidence growing up anyway. But yeah, he damn near sold me because he was really good at that shit. He was buttoned up. His speech was great. His sales pitch was good. So all that was nice. And I don't know who that other black guy in the room was until later. But I liked seeing their interactions after it was done. And that they, when he was like, hey, man, you know, you did your thing or whatever, whatever. So it seems like he's been successful as an architect when he was like, yeah, I can build 40 of these or something like that.
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Speaker 5: So, but yeah, I liked how we opened here.
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Speaker 3: What about you, Jay?
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Speaker 4: It was interesting just to try to figure out where John was at, especially the way we ended. Because the main thing I was confused about what he was going to do next. After all that, because you committed your life to this. So, in a way, it was kind of jarring to see, like, yo, bro, you out here selling government, like, you're dealing with the government in a way.
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Speaker 3: But then it makes sense. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 4: I guess I'm looking at his blackness. Like, this entity of control basically had your life in a spiral. And you realize it ain't shit. But you're still going to work with it. But it makes sense in the grand scheme of things. But, yeah, it was jarring a little bit because I expected him to probably do something else.
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Speaker 3: I thought maybe he'd be more rebellious or some shit.
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Speaker 4: What entity? So, like, he was basically selling these.
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Speaker 4: They were selling the panic, whatever, the underground panic rooms. That's going to the government. You're getting government contracts.
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Speaker 3: You're working with them. You know what I'm saying? So you're still dealing with the state. It's kind of.
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Speaker 5: He didn't have an issue with the state. He had an issue with Oa and the Guardians.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a very.
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Speaker 4: But it's a very similar thing as far as, like, it's basically the state of the universe.
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Speaker 3: Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we have control.
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Speaker 4: We basically set laws and we go out here and do... We set what is the parameters of good and evil in the universe.
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Speaker 3: So it's kind of you still working on the same thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if his ideals expand that far to take what happened with the Guardians and apply it to the government here, especially since he was in the military. So I don't think he ever really disassociated himself from the military backing and training and all the other stuff. Because in his eyes, they didn't really do anything wrong. It was all Hal Gordon and the Guardians that fucked everything up. And that's why he actually lost his job with the military.
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Speaker 5: If it wasn't for that, he would have been fine.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, I don't see any reason for why he would be upset with that particular faction here on Earth.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked at it like he just likes structure. Whatever gives him structure, I think he excels in. And I think this is the first time he's created that for himself. But, Lou, I was wondering, what did you think of his brother? That was it.
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Speaker 3: Like, you see that.
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Speaker 2: The one that worked with him?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Marcus.
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Speaker 2: The Marcus. The one he actually worked with.
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Speaker 3: I like this version of him because I'm not as versed in the comics and don't know the superhero version. I liked him getting into this bag. Maybe not necessarily working with government like Jalen was saying, but I do.
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Speaker 3: I could see what he would say. It ain't that he just getting the money from it, but I know there's a deeper thing to that. However, him being a successful architect that he's always wanted to be finally getting the chance to do what he wanted to do versus what his mom and his dad wanted him to do. I liked this. I was interested immediately. I like, okay, they're going to explore what it looks like if the green ladder and ain't the biggest thing pressing his life. So yeah, I was here for it. And I liked his brother. pushing him behind it like him telling the story uh to the question that you asked him telling the story where his brother reminded him that he was an architect and then he was right there working with him and then we seen that throughout the episode too so i like this brother um after this pitch meeting.
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Speaker 2: It went well but we see that he gets a call from his mom bernie um and it kind of this episode kind of set the tone for like it's just it was a lot of phone calls in this episode and i feel like you started with this one Lou, what was your reaction to that conversation?
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Speaker 3: Calling his mama Bernadette is crazy.
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Speaker 5: Is he really mad at you?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's mad. He's mad at your mama.
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Speaker 3: Hey, bro.
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Speaker 2: Jay, when was the last time you heard of Bernadette?
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Speaker 3: And that.
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Speaker 5: That, too.
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Speaker 3: A Bernadette. Big bang theory?
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Speaker 5: That is true.
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Speaker 3: But, yeah, I thought this was interesting, the state that we found out that he and his mom was in. He hadn't talked to Hal. Hal wanted to apologize. She had been talking to him. He hadn't talked to his family in years. It was a very quick little info dump that they did in the phone call, and I liked it.
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Speaker 5: I liked it.
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Speaker 3: It threw some more intrigue and asked, okay, what happened with him and his mama? Like, what is all of this?
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Speaker 2: Jay, did you think that Hal was fucking his mama at one point?
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Speaker 3: Oh, no.
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Speaker 5: I did. No.
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Speaker 2: That's what you said.
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Speaker 3: You know what happened, kid? No, but I'm with Nick. It did seem a little... Too familiar.
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Speaker 2: She was like, we talked. I'm like, what you mean we talked? You know how certain women break shit down? They be sounding like, hold on. You got to pick up on what they're saying. I was like, hold on. Flesh it out. That's funny. He was by himself. He ain't had nobody else to go to.
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Speaker 3: That don't sound right. I just think she was still married to the dad. Was she?
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Speaker 2: We don't know.
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Speaker 5: Nah, I don't know. That sounds like they tried to put the dad up.
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Speaker 3: He put it up.
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Speaker 2: He wasn't happy about this shit. He got trigger happy when he found out where he was at. Big Ant was going. Big Ant was going.
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Speaker 3: Big Ant can't catch a break, bro. Big Ant can't catch a break. Big Ant was going in there. Big Ant still got the windows. Damn little murder. damn man it's funny you ain't seen the movie yet but.
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Speaker 4: I ain't seen it I gotta see it I gotta see it yeah you got to you gotta see it you got to it's a must see.
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Speaker 3: Yeah I just I just got it.
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Speaker 4: I mean it's on record y'all know I got my own issues with my parents and my mom or whatever but I guess seeing the name it's just like bro you hyped me up my whole life for this thing you took my you basically took my life away for this thing Just for me to realize it ain't shit. So I don't want to do it. Like I just, and I'm not going to do it. And then you're still pushing me to do it.
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Speaker 2: Fuck you.
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Speaker 4: That's really how it is. It's really a fuck you at this point. So yeah, you're in my phone now as your government name. It's really that simple. You can't even respect my choice of not wanting to do it. Yeah, it's really a fuck you. And you could tell by the way she kept talking to him about it.
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Speaker 3: Like, bro, I made my decision. Leave me the fuck alone about it. So.
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Speaker 5: She ain't going to let that shit go.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: If she ain't give a damn about his feelings then, she don't give a damn about his feelings now.
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Speaker 1: Especially now, bro. Man, you guys have black moms. You already know the conversations and things she done told him over the years to get him to burn a debt. Especially when she found out he actually gave that shit back.
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Speaker 3: You quit? You quit that good paying job? What are you doing? Boy.
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Speaker 2: I know she brought that up every time. They call me nigga, mama, but they was paying you, right? Hey, that's a tough question to answer, though, because they is paying.
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Speaker 1: Every time he go home, bro, he's like, yeah, he could have been a Green Lantern, but his ass is running.
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Speaker 2: I thought growing up the shape of color was green anyway. I don't know what he doing. But he's not a green because he was a coward. Nah, bro.
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Speaker 3: I talked to Hal the other day. He wish he was a green man.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Lou, she's going to be like, speaking of green, guess what he lacking?
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Speaker 3: Guess what he got.
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Speaker 2: It would be nice to have a ring around.
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Speaker 3: That's funny. Nah, yeah. I thought that conversation was crazy.
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Speaker 2: But he still picked up Ken, so he still fucked with her.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: And he also still fucked with Hal, because as soon as he heard that, she was talking to Hal. That nigga drove.
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Speaker 3: That was a Ford commercial for a part of that episode.
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Speaker 2: He drove through land, sea, snow, rain, to Nebraska. Lou, what's the thing that could get you out of your crib And drive to Nebraska Is it your mama If somebody said your thing I got your mama in the trunk Cause that's what he did He still fuck with her It wouldn't be Hal.
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Speaker 3: Jordan I tell you that it definitely wouldn't be Hal Jordan.
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Speaker 1: Man he just wanted to go make sure Hal wasn't fucking his mama bro.
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Speaker 3: He had to look at me as I can.
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Speaker 7: He had to look at this nigga in his eye.
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Speaker 2: He said out of any nigga, he came.
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Speaker 3: Out.
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Speaker 2: Imagine for him.
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Speaker 3: Just in case. I'm going to break your nose just in case. It was a pride thing, man. He said he wanted to apologize.
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Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, all the bullshit you put me through, all that shit we went through, Yeah, nigga, apologize to me.
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Speaker 3: That's all it was.
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Speaker 4: That's the main thing that motivated that is like, I can't get my mama to get off my back about it. This is a little bit, a little bit that'll give me some satisfaction.
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Speaker 2: I disagree, Jay, because it had to be about him fucking his mom because Ken, because Ken, listen, he drove all the way.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Lou, this is why I fuck with Kyle Chandler.
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Speaker 2: Kyle was like, he said, you want the bed, Ken? He said, nah, why? Because that's the only thing you want.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Hey how was an asshole through it from birth to death he was an asshole he don't fuck about that shit jay he wanted to know if he fucked his mama that's why he was like nigga don't talk to my mama no more.
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Speaker 4: Like how would how did he want to apologize so that's what i'm saying as far as like His mama saying that as a nugget because she knows that's what he wants. That's the only reason he would have talked to him. She knows deep down that's what he wants. He wants the validation that he made the right decision.
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Speaker 3: What Hal apologizing for? What you mean, Lou? He was training him to be a lantern, right? How many times he jumped out the car, Lou? Hey, man. He was training him to be a lantern, right? If I'm the only nigga in the world to do this, And I'm telling you, this is how you do it. You can't tell me I'm training you wrong. You might not like it, but he still was training him to be a runner.
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Speaker 2: He trapped him in the car.
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Speaker 4: He burned alive. You never wanted me to be a lantern anyway.
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Speaker 3: You admitted it, too.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't even say that. I don't want to apologize for it. I don't want to give my good job up.
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Speaker 3: No, nigga, you're right.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to... I just don't understand, like, what you just asked me.
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Speaker 3: What is the get up and drive to Nebraska apology for?
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Speaker 2: Like, nigga, it ain't that serious. He burned alive.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lou. I got that shit back, man. Listen.
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Speaker 2: He got it back in the worst way.
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Speaker 3: You got to burn alive.
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Speaker 2: To get your skin back? How much does that make?
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Speaker 3: I just didn't. I didn't understand why he was that impressed about an apology.
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Speaker 5: It was a lot.
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say. Jay trying to take what the show give him. Kid, we know what the show really say. Don't nobody like when they mama get fucked. Don't nobody like when they mama get fucked, bro. Especially by a white man. Every nigga is checking every white man.
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Speaker 3: A white man that you hate too?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You talking to half?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Mama got to have a life too.
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Speaker 3: Mama got to have a life too, Joe.
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Speaker 2: Mama got to.
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Speaker 3: Have a life too.
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Speaker 2: He was like, you talk to my mama, he was like, she really want to talk to you for real. She already talked to me. Like, we got, you got that kind of relationship.
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Speaker 3: You know what she want? Yeah, you talking about.
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Speaker 1: Hey, look.
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Speaker 3: That hit to the jaw was always coming. As soon as he sat down, the only question was when. You're going to get hit in your jaw. You're just going to have to make one warning. You want to start the conversation.
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Speaker 2: With it or end it.
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Speaker 3: Or somewhere in the middle. What house ain't loose?
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Speaker 2: He acted about it. He was like, hey, man, it's cool. I know why you didn't take the ring. Because you a bitch. Jay, he didn't say that. He called him a bitch twice and was shocked that he got socked. He was legit surprised.
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Speaker 3: That's all he said. That's one for two.
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Speaker 1: Because he sat looking.
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Speaker 5: Out that window.
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Speaker 2: He remember a good ass woman. That's what 10 years, you know, you don't forget that shit. That's what he said.
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Speaker 3: He said, boy, if I was 10 years younger, boy, I would have tried. That's what he was thinking the whole time watching.
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Speaker 2: He could have been 15 years younger.
00:24:41
Speaker 5: Don't tell anybody you were here.
00:24:43
Speaker 1: Whatever you do, don't tell anybody you were here.
00:24:46
Speaker 5: It's fine. We're going to keep this between us.
00:24:51
Speaker 2: He broke his nose on sight, bro.
00:24:56
Speaker 3: That was crazy.
00:24:57
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00:25:37
Speaker 2: We then head and see John heads home, but he get a call from Sheriff Kelly. I don't know what type of stamina John got, but he keep driving back and forth to Nebraska. I don't know where they supposed to be at, Jay. Is they in Chicago or whatever? But he's taking trips. Because as soon as she called him and told him that Hal did, we get back to where we ended off in the first episode, where we find his body and shit. I didn't really think he cared about Hal this deep.
00:26:01
Speaker 3: No, that was in the same place. All that was in the same place. He left Chicago to go there. He ain't never leave from there because his mama kept calling him and telling him, well, excuse me, his brother kept calling him and telling him to leave and come back.
00:26:13
Speaker 2: But he ain't never leave.
00:26:15
Speaker 3: He was at a nice ass apartment when he got the call from the sheriff. That was his spot. Oh, yeah, you're right.
00:26:23
Speaker 2: He went home, and then he came right back out when he found out she was dead. I was surprised by that, because I didn't think he fucked with Hal. I didn't think he fucked with Hal like that.
00:26:31
Speaker 3: Yep, you're right, my bad. And it made me think, like.
00:26:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know why he went.
00:26:37
Speaker 2: King, it also made me think, like, why did he look for his ring when he found him dead on the bench?
00:26:41
Speaker 5: Like.
00:26:43
Speaker 2: He knew that he didn't have the ring. He was locked up for 10 years. Why did he check his hand?
00:26:49
Speaker 3: You're right. I mean, I think it's one of those things. It's the connection to you. I don't know. I just look. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. It is interesting. You talk about that other cliffhanger that they had. When he looked and the ring was gone, we were supposed to think that... I see what you're saying.
00:27:09
Speaker 2: Like how the first episode ends, he looks for the ring.
00:27:11
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow.
00:27:11
Speaker 2: After all this time, the nigga don't got that shit.
00:27:15
Speaker 3: You know he don't got that shit. Because he just got out of jail or shit. Yeah, exactly.
00:27:19
Speaker 5: But, yeah.
00:27:20
Speaker 3: But what did you think about Lou? What did you think about Lou? I mean, I think that was more to hint towards the end.
00:27:24
Speaker 4: That was just to give us a hint towards the end, even though we didn't.
00:27:28
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
00:27:31
Speaker 5: I guess.
00:27:32
Speaker 3: It was a foreshadow.
00:27:33
Speaker 2: What did you think about what Sheriff Kelly told us about what he was up to when he got out?
00:27:39
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, he basically wasn't doing shit, right?
00:27:43
Speaker 2: No, he was going a lot. He was knocking on everybody's door, trying to apologize.
00:27:47
Speaker 3: Oh, and they was trying to, yeah, that's why nobody liked the Lanterns anymore.
00:27:51
Speaker 4: That's the other reason why he wasn't fucking his mama, too.
00:27:56
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, because he was there doing that. He was fucking the sheriff.
00:28:00
Speaker 5: That, too.
00:28:13
Speaker 3: I wasn't really sympathetic to this story and him being like that's a part of it you was there to do that as a superhero yeah them people not gonna fuck with you in this small ass town you shouldn't even be here no way I don't care nothing about you not gonna pick with those leave. There's a thousand people here. Fuck them little people. A thousand people.
00:28:34
Speaker 2: Hey, Jay, Lou ain't never going to be a Greenlander with that. He said, fuck a thousand people. I ain't never heard of anybody who can.
00:28:43
Speaker 3: Say fuck a thousand people.
00:28:47
Speaker 2: I know a couple niggas you can say I fucked you. You fucked up the A-City and everybody told you to leave. And then you demolished that whole city.
00:29:00
Speaker 1: And you mad because they don't like you.
00:29:03
Speaker 2: And you mad because they don't like you.
00:29:08
Speaker 3: No, I'm just leaving. I'm not campaigning for them to like me. Like, fuck downtown. It's a little shit. I'll fuck the rest of it up before I leave.
00:29:18
Speaker 5: But no, yeah. I'm just leaving.
00:29:27
Speaker 2: Oh, Lou, you don't never change, bro. Yeah, I thought, I don't know, I thought it was nice.
00:29:36
Speaker 3: I did too.
00:29:38
Speaker 5: I did too.
00:29:39
Speaker 1: You know, because it really showed that for 10 years, he really sat and thought about that shit, and it really bothered him. And he couldn't get those 10 years back. And he took the fall. He took the fall for everything. For Jon Stewart and stuff like that, you know, he knew his situation as a lanter was already over. So he just tried to make amends and repair everything as much as possible. And it allowed him to stay around with old girl too, which we know that was a real reason why he was there. But while he was there, he was going to at least try to get the town back on his side so he can at least live in peace.
00:30:25
Speaker 2: We see that John hits the house crib After getting there, because he ain't got no place to stay. And Earl's still alive. So, you know, he's still helping feed him and shit. But then he get his call from his brother. Jay, this is where I was. It got me asking this question. But, like, based off that phone call he got with his brother when he got into the house about, like, oh, yeah, we got this business meeting set up. The colonel coming through. I need you to come back here for that meeting. That's going to lock everything up. We're going to get this bread. And he said, yeah, I got you. And we've seen enough black movies and TV shows to know any time there's a scenario like this, he ain't got it. And it's made me want to think, Jay, is John a bad brother? Just like through and through. Is he just a bad brother?
00:31:10
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he is.
00:31:13
Speaker 4: But I think a part of it is he was never really taught to be a brother. And I think in this moment he was trying to be one. You know, like there's a thing of... Over time, you learn different things about how to show up for your brother. Just your homies in general over time. And I think right now he is trying his best to do that. But he didn't really know how to do it. And we learned that even with his relationship with his other brother, it's strictly financial. He doesn't know how to do it because they don't really have a true relationship because of the way they were brought up. The other two probably have a closer relationship because it was them against... chosen you know what i'm saying and this nigga here he was just always doing the shit that was needed to become a green lantern so i think the dynamics are just different because of how they were how they were raised so yeah he's a bad brother but i don't think it's just one of them things but he's a fucked up person and a bad brother it's just the circumstances made it that.
00:32:11
Speaker 1: Way and a lot of it had to do with of course the parents bernadette and the dad and that was something we kind of learned from the brief exchange we had with the other brother like jayna was mentioning is that there's a friction there between them where they're just on the phone yelling at one another. And there's some resentment from the other brother about the upbringing as well. And that's why he didn't want to go do it. He eventually ended up going to do it. But the younger brother, or Marcus, wanted to have the relationship that he never really got a chance to have with them when they were growing up. And this was a chance for him to do it. And that's why they were we can assume kind of partnered together. Cause he was trying to do the thing that he didn't get a chance to do.
00:32:54
Speaker 5: And then of course we know what happened with that.
00:32:57
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's, he's, he's a terrible brother, but it wasn't by choice.
00:33:05
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:33:06
Speaker 2: I'm about to say, I mean, y'all shooting a lot of bail on a Tuesday night or a Monday night.
00:33:11
Speaker 3: It was terrible.
00:33:12
Speaker 5: It was by choice.
00:33:13
Speaker 3: See, see, this is, I'm, I have a hard time being empathetic to characters who have a choice, the better choice, and they still choose to do the thing that's going to cause the most harm. I know it's good TV. I enjoy watching it, but I have a hard time having empathy for them. I'm reviewing Breaking Bad right now, so it's a lot of that with Walter White. where they want you to feel sorry for this dude, but he clearly made this choice. Look where the correlation is, Taylor. What the fuck are you still doing in this town, bro, in the midst of pitch for this big-ass meeting? What are you doing here?
00:33:49
Speaker 1: Leave.
00:33:49
Speaker 3: Yes, you a bad brother. This is the biggest thing in your life to happen to this point up until you wanted to be a Green Lantern, and you wasn't. So now— Here, you got the opportunity, you got this firm, you're successful, your brother was a partner in this with you, and you're here trying to investigate the murder of this white man.
00:34:07
Speaker 8: Hey, Spike, you ever had, like, this situation, shit, that has been going on for, like, five, six years, and y'all ain't together, and you done ran across the one that, like, oh, damn it, she probably be right. But when that other one call you, People like, damn, I did miss you for the last eight months.
00:34:29
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Like, let me pull up on you real quick. And, you know, I'll go holler at her later. You know what I'm saying?
00:34:36
Speaker 4: You know exactly this shit ain't good for you, but it's just something about it that just draw you to it.
00:34:41
Speaker 3: And you just like. We had this history.
00:34:43
Speaker 4: I just, I just feel drawn to you that I gotta, I gotta, I gotta go figure this thing out.
00:34:48
Speaker 3: That's exactly how this nigga's been.
00:34:49
Speaker 2: That's a perfect, that's a perfect example.
00:34:51
Speaker 3: That's a perfect example. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I ain't no comeback to that.
00:34:58
Speaker 2: Suck it.
00:34:59
Speaker 5: I know what you mean.
00:35:00
Speaker 3: He's been built to this his whole life. You know what I'm saying?
00:35:03
Speaker 4: And it's, it's still not truly resolved because he didn't get the front, like the ending that he really wanted. Like he was just disappointed at what he saw at the end of the tunnel tunnel. So it's not truly resolved. So it's been 10 years. It's still back there, bro. Like, it's just like, oh, man, let me go. And then when you get back into it, you just fall back into it like nothing ever, like you haven't been gone.
00:35:26
Speaker 2: And even though the good shit is over here. That's the biggest shit.
00:35:30
Speaker 4: It is.
00:35:30
Speaker 2: That's all it is.
00:35:32
Speaker 5: It's talk.
00:35:32
Speaker 3: I remember that. It's talk as shit, bro. It's exactly what it is, bro. Oh, shit, man.
00:35:42
Speaker 2: Nah, but we then see Sheriff Kelly ask John to join her for coffee in the morning. And he gets deputized and they head to the morgue to check out Hal's body.
00:35:50
Speaker 3: Ken, what was your thoughts on Betsy the mortician?
00:35:55
Speaker 1: I love Betsy because she just kept it a buck, as I like to say. She was like, he's a piece of shit and he's dead. He can't really say this. But your ass is alive and you can. You're a piece of shit too, by the way. And don't say shit to me. And she was speaking for the town. Like we we heard the stories of what Carrie was saying. Now we got a chance to hear it from one of the citizens in the city.
00:36:25
Speaker 5: And she seemed nice as hell.
00:36:27
Speaker 1: But she, you know, was very adamant that she didn't really fuck with any of the Landers. To the point she was like, yeah, we're just going to burn him up and we're going to, what she said, make him in the mud or some shit like that.
00:36:38
Speaker 3: Flush him down the toilet.
00:36:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, they really hate this man.
00:36:46
Speaker 3: A lot.
00:36:47
Speaker 1: And we got a chance to kind of hear, and she, it felt like she was one of the nicest ones from the city.
00:36:52
Speaker 2: Jay, how did this come off to you? Because I felt a certain type of way.
00:36:55
Speaker 3: When she was saying it.
00:36:57
Speaker 5: Oh, no, Nick.
00:36:58
Speaker 3: It ain't that. I was going to say.
00:37:02
Speaker 4: I know everybody think I'm the one that hate white people the most up here, which, eh. But I ain't really take it that way, Nick. I just was like, nah, it makes sense why you don't fuck with these niggas. These niggas came and wrecked your town.
00:37:15
Speaker 3: And then left.
00:37:17
Speaker 4: Like, they just did it in dip, you know what I'm saying? Like, Hal went to jail, yeah, but that ain't fix nothing. Like, we still got to deal with all this shit. And even though he came back, it was a little too late nigga you was in jail for 10 years and you try to come back in nah bro i don't have to sit and deal with this shit so yeah i understand i understand exactly what she felt the way she felt.
00:37:37
Speaker 1: And not only that like they're they're they had to do a lot of rebuilding because that manhunter kept all of them straight and now however their livelihoods and stuff got completely wrecked and they had to kind of figure out a way to build a new New economy, a new infrastructure, like all that shit was just gone now because of this motherfucker.
00:37:59
Speaker 4: Billy done became a hobo. He out there in the middle of the street like a drunk. You see what John said when he saw him? Didn't he compliment that nigga?
00:38:10
Speaker 2: Damn, I guess that do make sense why they hate him.
00:38:14
Speaker 5: I don't know.
00:38:14
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:38:15
Speaker 2: For me, Louis, this white tosser.
00:38:18
Speaker 5: To me.
00:38:19
Speaker 2: That's what happened to them. That's what happened. When shit was good, somebody came through and fucked it up. And now you got to rebuild.
00:38:25
Speaker 3: It's like, alright. That's what I'm saying.
00:38:27
Speaker 2: The white lady looked at him. I was like, bro, I ain't got shit to do with me. Like you said, Lou, you could have left like they did. But you chose to stay. You knew what you was accepting when you chose to stay. You want to live with an alien that had y'all at gunpoint, basically. It was only sweet until the alien said it wasn't going to be sweet. Because when it wasn't sweet, what happened? She the one that blew the town up.
00:38:53
Speaker 3: It wasn't him. But they don't know that.
00:38:55
Speaker 2: They don't care.
00:38:56
Speaker 3: They just know what happened. Yeah, I thought she would be better. Yeah. After he ruined their life like that, I could understand why she was dead. I get why she said that. But it ain't.
00:39:07
Speaker 2: If I was him, it wasn't my fault.
00:39:09
Speaker 3: It was the white man. They know that.
00:39:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:39:15
Speaker 3: But that won't fuck with you either, is what he was saying.
00:39:17
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. She looked at him and she was like, I'm ignoring you.
00:39:19
Speaker 3: Because he's a lander, too.
00:39:22
Speaker 2: He ain't shit now, kid. That's what Lewis is trying to understand. He started to talk and show, like, why do we have to care about this nigga if he ain't got the ring?
00:39:33
Speaker 3: It's the same way, but it's the same thing.
00:39:36
Speaker 2: Nigga, it don't matter, bro.
00:39:37
Speaker 3: It don't matter.
00:39:38
Speaker 4: It's the same way as if a nigga was a cop and he did some shady shit and he ain't a cop no more.
00:39:41
Speaker 3: You still ain't going to fuck with that nigga.
00:39:48
Speaker 2: You two for two, Jay.
00:39:49
Speaker 3: What can I say?
00:39:52
Speaker 2: But no, I fuck with Betsy the Mortician, though.
00:39:55
Speaker 3: I thought she had a good personality.
00:39:58
Speaker 2: But why do you think he ain't tell Kelly that, or Kerry, I keep on calling her Kelly, that he ain't punch Hal the day before? He got blood on his hands and shit. It's like, you can easily tell that she fucks. She the only one in the town that really do fuck with you. Like, why was he keeping that a secret?
00:40:16
Speaker 3: And if you don't tell her, you look suspicious. You look like suspect number one. But he told him don't tell nobody he had been there, right?
00:40:26
Speaker 4: How?
00:40:26
Speaker 2: Bro, that was only for if he was alive.
00:40:30
Speaker 3: That's an alive promise. I was going to say, that's an alive thing.
00:40:32
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:40:32
Speaker 3: But you end up dead. I got to run it by her when she asked. I was going to be like, hey, man, you know, as a matter of fact, I was just here. I had to hit him in his mouth. Oh, so y'all don't type in niggas who don't respond.
00:40:42
Speaker 4: Y'all don't type of niggas who don't respect nigga wishes when they dead.
00:40:45
Speaker 2: You dead, bro.
00:40:46
Speaker 4: Somebody's going to accuse you.
00:40:50
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell somebody that he dead.
00:40:53
Speaker 5: To help, though.
00:40:54
Speaker 3: This is only to help. If I didn't think it would help, I wouldn't say that. But if I just hit you in your nose and broke your nose. They try to connect this to the case. One, I definitely want to make sure I ain't going to jail by this. And two, I want to see if there's any connections to it. Like, he just told me this thing because we just had an interaction. He told y'all.
00:41:17
Speaker 2: Jay, you heard his priority. His priority was, number one, I ain't going to jail for nobody. Listen again, I don't say the most of all platforms and.
00:41:44
Speaker 3: Don't do a crime with me, nigga, because I ain't snitching. I ain't going to jail for no nigga. No nigga at all. I don't do co-defendants and shit. No, not at all.
00:41:56
Speaker 4: But John told you, and it made sense. This nigga says, I'm a black man in rural America. If I said I punched him, I'm suspect.
00:42:04
Speaker 3: Number one regardless. No, he didn't say that. So, like, yeah, it made sense.
00:42:09
Speaker 4: Why would I tell him, like, yeah, I punched that nigga and he ended up dead? Oh, so you were the last person to have an altercation with a black man.
00:42:16
Speaker 3: You killed a white man. But see, that's why I think you got to tell her before everybody else figured this out. Because they're going to figure it out, I feel like, at some point.
00:42:27
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:42:27
Speaker 2: So why not tell her because she can fuck with you?
00:42:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, too.
00:42:32
Speaker 4: You can't completely trust her, bro. She was hiding the manhunting, too. You know what I'm saying?
00:42:36
Speaker 3: And she was fucking this man. So she knew me and her feelings about it. Yeah, so nah.
00:42:41
Speaker 4: Nah.
00:42:42
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:42:44
Speaker 4: She ain't listen to him when she was talking about him getting jumped, basically. I had to defend myself. She ain't even trying to hit none of that shit. So why would she believe him when she said, yeah, I punched that nigga before he died?
00:42:54
Speaker 3: And now he dead.
00:42:56
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:02
Speaker 2: We then see the new duo head to Hal's store to check on what was left. We find, what was that? I don't know what this is. That space box thing?
00:43:11
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:43:11
Speaker 2: Whatever it was called. They couldn't do shit on that kid, so they left. That motherfucker gave him one warning, and he was like a black person. He shut.
00:43:24
Speaker 5: Down.
00:43:25
Speaker 3: Hey, we ain't got to tell.
00:43:27
Speaker 2: You twice for shit. That box was clear all this direction, Jay.
00:43:31
Speaker 3: It's the final warning. It's the final warning.
00:43:33
Speaker 2: It's the final warning. If you try that shit again, I'm going to fuck you up. He said, uh-oh, I'm going back.
00:43:43
Speaker 4: What?
00:43:45
Speaker 3: We checked that off the list.
00:43:48
Speaker 2: That's a dope-ass alarm system right there.
00:43:51
Speaker 5: Like, damn it, you know it.
00:43:52
Speaker 3: All right, fuck around and find out.
00:43:54
Speaker 2: It's the scary ass, because it's an intimidating box, bro. It's like, it ain't just like no small thing. It's something that's like, I don't know what's in there.
00:44:04
Speaker 3: Listen, Nick.
00:44:05
Speaker 4: And the box basically said, y'all dumb motherfuckers thought a voice recorder.
00:44:09
Speaker 2: Was a good word.
00:44:10
Speaker 4: Y'all cannot use a voice recorder.
00:44:15
Speaker 3: It's go time. It's like, okay, look, you want to use a voice recorder, try one more thing.
00:44:21
Speaker 2: It could have stopped them as soon as it started.
00:44:24
Speaker 3: It let the whole shit out.
00:44:26
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
00:44:27
Speaker 3: That is hilarious.
00:44:29
Speaker 4: The box wanted to be nosy, like, what the fuck these niggas got going on?
00:44:34
Speaker 2: Hey, that shit was hilarious, bro. That is hilarious.
00:44:42
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:44:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a nigga moment. That was one of the nigga moments in this episode. But then we see that Officer Carey, or Sheriff Carey, invite him over for dinner and shit. So he go to get some beer and shit before they're going to get dinner. But... Were y'all surprised that John asked for Hal to be buried and shit like that? Like, he willing to stay there and just do a whole few more shit?
00:45:08
Speaker 3: Yes, what you doing?
00:45:09
Speaker 2: Go home, nigga.
00:45:11
Speaker 3: Fuck is you doing, bro? What are you doing here? Go home.
00:45:15
Speaker 4: Are y'all saying this in the moment, or are y'all saying this even with the entirety of the episode?
00:45:21
Speaker 2: In the moment, in the moment.
00:45:22
Speaker 3: For me, it's in the moment.
00:45:23
Speaker 2: It's in the moment, which is kind of like... Because, like, Lou is saying, like.
00:45:26
Speaker 3: Oh, in the moment, yes.
00:45:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know you're right.
00:45:29
Speaker 2: If I'm... Jay, if we have an important business meeting that I have to be there to sell the shit and we get millions of dollars or at least up half to millions of dollars, I'm not going to miss that meeting over some shit in Nebraska. You know what I'm saying? For me to miss that, it would have to be something that means a lot to me. And I just didn't realize that after finding out a nigga that fucked my mom, I don't know if I'm willing to give up that type of meeting for that nigga.
00:46:04
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:46:06
Speaker 4: We on different sides of that piece. But it does mean a lot to him. That's what the story is basically establishing. This shit means it's all he's known, bruh.
00:46:16
Speaker 3: So when you're saying it means a lot to him, and I guess it's part of the lure that I don't understand, so maybe that's what you're alluding to. Being a detective, figuring it out, case work, this whole, oh, someone shot Hal, that means a lot to him. What you're saying, Hal meant a lot to him.
00:46:33
Speaker 4: I think just the piece of being tied to the Lanterns in general, like, it's just a piece of him that he's, but he didn't really get any closure from the shit, if we're being honest.
00:46:44
Speaker 3: He just put the shit down, you know what I'm saying? That's right, Jay. Well, he made a decision, though. I get you.
00:46:49
Speaker 2: I got you, bro. His closure wasn't the decision that he made.
00:46:51
Speaker 3: You made the decision.
00:46:52
Speaker 5: You didn't want to be the Lantern.
00:46:53
Speaker 4: But are you still being bugged about it, too, bro? It ain't like you made a decision and it's like, all right, that chapter's closed and I can move on. Every single time you talk to your folks, they bringing this shit up. You can't even have a relationship with your people because they keep bringing this shit up.
00:47:07
Speaker 3: Because you go to Nebraska and play about it. Because they knew it was there.
00:47:11
Speaker 2: They steamed it. They steamed it. They kept fucking with you because they knew it was there.
00:47:15
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about.
00:47:17
Speaker 4: No, right after the meeting, his mama called him while he was still in Chicago. That's the reason he went to Rushville in the first place.
00:47:25
Speaker 3: It's still being a part of your life, bro. It's still there.
00:47:29
Speaker 5: You know she call him all the time, Lou.
00:47:31
Speaker 3: That's why her name is Bernadette. Because they can tell he want to do that shit just like we can. That's why y'all trying to explain. He want to do that shit. He want to do that shit. Quit lying to everybody then.
00:47:40
Speaker 2: Just go do that shit. That's the thing about this, Jay. I think even though both of y'all get into the same point from different angles and perspectives, at the end of the day, we all know that... There's a way that he could have went about this to respect his brother. Not the other one. We're going to get to the other one. But this one, Marcus, in a way that could have been like, all right, bro, I'm going to come home for just one day to do this thing, and then I got to come back and do this.
00:48:03
Speaker 3: If he really, if he, because Hal ain't going nowhere, clearly. So, you're like, this little brother should have been here next week. Ain't nobody doing shit, man. Yeah, no, he won't be there. He literally won't be there.
00:48:19
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
00:48:19
Speaker 4: Like, they was just going to throw his body away. They didn't care about it. You know First 48, nigga. Don't act like this is new. But even back to the first analogy, bro, it don't matter how bad it is.
00:48:31
Speaker 3: You still just attracted to it.
00:48:32
Speaker 4: And yes, you want to do this shit, but you know it's not good.
00:48:35
Speaker 3: You just attracted. You don't know.
00:48:36
Speaker 4: You can't describe it, bro. You're just attracted to it like a moth to a flame.
00:48:41
Speaker 2: If that's the case, I'm losing respect for Jon Stewart as an entity.
00:48:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with Nick, and I see what you said, Zayden, but on one hand, you can't tell me that you got this pitch for $ 30 trillion from the government, and this is what you wanted to do, and you walked away from being a lantern.
00:49:01
Speaker 2: You did that.
00:49:02
Speaker 3: You've done that already. You walked away, but now— You went back and you're so intrigued. You're so intrigued that you're about to blow one of the second biggest opportunity in your life.
00:49:15
Speaker 2: Because you already turned down the first one.
00:49:17
Speaker 3: So then you're going to just turn down the other one.
00:49:20
Speaker 4: Just turn down i hate when niggas act like they ain't niggas bro i swear i hate this bro we just hate this.
00:49:29
Speaker 2: Shit we are we are venting we are venting.
00:49:33
Speaker 3: I know y'all don't think that. That's what shows like this is for, because now it don't make sense to me. Now that I'm hearing Nick say that and you say that, I'm like, no.
00:49:42
Speaker 4: Because why did you do that?
00:49:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope you think about that to yourself, too. You enjoy it. disagreeing with you and to know why did you do that you should have left like you are you've already this stuff that got to pull on you like what you're saying you've already told you already said you don't want to do it you did that already now you back here like maybe i might want to do it a little bit what you say happened.
00:50:06
Speaker 4: To you ain't never double back nigga to hell out of me you ain't never double back nigga after you were doing that broke it off you ain't never 30 trillion.
00:50:14
Speaker 3: Dollars though or 30 billion or whatever the fuck it was it didn't cost me no money It didn't cost me. Well, usually it don't, but sometimes.
00:50:21
Speaker 2: It don't cost you.
00:50:21
Speaker 3: Hey, we're going to move on.
00:50:25
Speaker 2: We're going to move on after that.
00:50:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:50:31
Speaker 2: What did you think of the phone call John got at the grocery store? When they tried to lock up his daddy. Stop telling me this wasn't a black ass moment. You didn't call a black man. That's what I'm trying to say.
00:50:47
Speaker 3: That's why me and Spike said Big Ant was on the other side of that phone. That's why I said Big Ant was on there.
00:50:52
Speaker 2: You'll get that after you see the movie.
00:50:56
Speaker 5: I loved it.
00:50:57
Speaker 1: I loved it because he was not having it. John, John. He was going off. Oh, man, yeah, that was dope. And I could just hear him and see him. And I was even wondering, like, okay, well, shit, if they're trying to put his dad into a home, like, what happened with the marriage?
00:51:20
Speaker 5: What happened with that?
00:51:21
Speaker 3: Because he wasn't, it's like his dad moved.
00:51:24
Speaker 5: On from that Green Lantern shit. He kind of let that go.
00:51:26
Speaker 1: He just worried about where he's going to be placed, and that's it right now. And he wanted to make sure his situation's straight, because wherever he's at, he's going to be there for a minute. But now I'm like, okay, well, if he's there, and Bernadette's over there, then what the hell happened between them in the last 10 years?
00:51:44
Speaker 5: Thank you.
00:51:45
Speaker 3: That's exactly who I was with, too. Like, oh, what happened?
00:51:48
Speaker 2: That's why I was like, once I found out about that situation, Jay, it led me to my previous point. But I also was very interested in, like, The daddy look like he, I don't know what's going on. They doing the daddy dirty in this one, bruh. They made it seem like he just a buffoon because he always trying to shoot shit off. And like, what's going on, Jay? I thought, was that surprising to find out that John Sr. was in a situation like that?
00:52:14
Speaker 4: It was surprising, but if you sit and think about it, it's probably something that broke him too. Because I think a part of his identity was being tied to like, even though I was like basically pussy when they came to me about the ring. I got my son that's going to make it up for me. So that shit probably broke him like, damn, this thing ain't even do the shit that I was like.
00:52:35
Speaker 3: I told this nigga was going to make up for me. You know what I'm saying?
00:52:37
Speaker 4: Like, imagine, listen, Nick, imagine you want to be, you want to be, you want to be, you've been hooping nigga and you make a mistake and you can't get to the league.
00:52:49
Speaker 3: And then your son is LeBron James.
00:52:51
Speaker 4: And this nigga is freshman year. He about to get drafted and say, man, pops, I ain't going to do that shit.
00:52:57
Speaker 2: What?
00:52:59
Speaker 3: He said, I'm going to sell buildings.
00:53:01
Speaker 2: I'm going to do theater.
00:53:04
Speaker 3: Nigga, what?
00:53:05
Speaker 2: I'm going to sell panic rooms for a living. Yeah, you're right, bro. I am livid. If I didn't love him, I'd say I wouldn't know him.
00:53:20
Speaker 4: The only reason you're holding on is because Nike is still calling to give his ass a contract.
00:53:26
Speaker 2: Whatever he about to do, he going to have to walk there. He going to have to sell shoes. We going to sell shoes. We ain't going to lose this contract.
00:53:39
Speaker 3: He going to sell shoes. He did the other thing and was still successful. He was paying for everything. It would be hard for his dad even though he probably still did it. Hold on, Luke. Hold on, Luke.
00:53:51
Speaker 4: Can't.
00:53:55
Speaker 2: Just because a nigga wears nice clothes, nobody has a nice job.
00:54:03
Speaker 3: We don't know if he was successful, bro.
00:54:05
Speaker 4: No, he's successful because he's giving money to his brother.
00:54:08
Speaker 3: He was paying for his brother's stuff, and he said he had been doing this and selling this all across the country to residential people.
00:54:16
Speaker 2: He paying for his brother's studio time. How much do you think that is? Do you think his brother's a successful business?
00:54:25
Speaker 3: Did you see the pitch meet he was in?
00:54:27
Speaker 2: This is what I'm about to say, Jay.
00:54:29
Speaker 3: Tell me if I'm wrong.
00:54:30
Speaker 2: I looked at this and I guess this was going to really put the family in a different situation. Like way, like way different. But where they were at right now, it's just like they're just like living like normal, like quote unquote lot. It's not like they live in. It's not like he's like a.
00:54:45
Speaker 3: High middle class. i think he was high middle class he's not i don't think he's high middle i think he's middle class and i think he fucked up them going.
00:54:54
Speaker 4: To like the crazy part is y'all think living a normal life ain't successful that's the that's the that's the crazy part i hear y'all talking about he's a middle class but this nigga ain't got a successful life this is crazy he was successful bro.
00:55:12
Speaker 2: I look at middle class as the standard, bro. Anything lower than that is like you're not getting the best of or at least a decent care of things. That's what everybody should live in that standard. I hope that everybody can't, but I'm just saying anything below that is we're talking.
00:55:30
Speaker 3: About a whole different type of show. But we know reality. That's not reality, but this is TV.
00:55:35
Speaker 2: TV doesn't show that as a basic standard. They always show middle class as the standard for American living. And I'm saying, like, I think that's what they're saying. I don't think he's rich yet. I thought this was going to bring him to be rich. And I think that's why I think that's why they were richer. I think that's why Marcus was so upset. It's like, bro, we can be really rich. We like we're good, but we're not like we're.
00:55:59
Speaker 5: Trying to be great.
00:56:00
Speaker 1: Marcus was upset because John is rich and I'm not.
00:56:04
Speaker 3: That's what it is. There we go.
00:56:08
Speaker 2: That don't make sense. But that don't make sense. They ain't in business together. If he's rich and I'm rich. He started with all the money, though. That's his little brother. His little brother told me to be the architect. He started the company. He printed most of the money. He probably owned most of the company. He probably makes good money. His brother probably still are what you explained. It's a salaried employee making broadly. Anywhere from 80 to 100 grand a year.
00:56:30
Speaker 3: And this probably would have changed his brother's life with the equity that he got in the meeting was go back to him being a bad brother. But I'm looking at dude, John. He good. Nobody get up and go to Nebraska if they not good, bro. Like you ain't doing it. If he wasn't good, he wouldn't be there. So I think he got it. I'm just saying. And I think his dad went crazy, too, for all the reasons that y'all said. Maybe it wasn't a separation, Ken. Maybe it was like Ken had to be admitted or something.
00:57:01
Speaker 4: Oh.
00:57:02
Speaker 5: He still dreaming about the green bubble?
00:57:04
Speaker 4: He's still thinking about that night, man.
00:57:07
Speaker 2: He's still thinking about that night. That's why he started shooting at the window. You know what I'm saying?
00:57:17
Speaker 3: That was all times.
00:57:19
Speaker 2: He was so upset. I ain't never been that upset, J. Well, I shoot the TV. I've seen the Bengals in the Super Bowl.
00:57:25
Speaker 3: I ain't do that. Hold on, hold on. Before we continue. You're not a black man yet, Nick.
00:57:30
Speaker 2: Hold on.
00:57:32
Speaker 3: Hold on. Before y'all continue. What's his call again, Lou? What's it?
00:57:37
Speaker 5: Lattern's.
00:57:38
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. He got what? He can't remember it because he got what?
00:57:42
Speaker 2: Oh, all sounds.
00:57:43
Speaker 3: That's what you said the first time. What did I say the first time?
00:57:46
Speaker 2: All times. All times.
00:57:53
Speaker 3: You know that's how we stay. You know that's how we stay. Ain't nobody got time to pronounce that Z, bro.
00:58:00
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody got time for that Z, bro. It should be like lasagna.
00:58:05
Speaker 3: You know that's how your mama do it. You know that's how your mama do it. Ain't no T in that hoe neither.
00:58:12
Speaker 2: It sound like, you know, it sound like we replaced the T with the Z.
00:58:18
Speaker 3: That make more sense to black people. So black people just go with it. To us, it make more sense for a T to be right. I'm just like, gee, bro, that's the whole time. Bro, I only use this for zebras and xylophones. We then see John find one of the beacons to call on the Green Lantern, Guy Gardner. And then we see John get into a situation.
00:58:55
Speaker 2: What's crazy is that, like Josh said, he put the beacon in the place where the memorial was. So niggas can't never forget. And then, but John, he turned it on and he just an asshole. This is what he picked up from Hal. Lou, what did you think of this scene?
00:59:12
Speaker 3: I loved this. This was good. I liked him cutting it on. I give a fuck about him. I like how it escalated. I liked that her brother had something to do with it and that he whooped all of their asses as he should have. This played out just like I wanted it to. So I fucked with this thing.
00:59:29
Speaker 1: Billy was dirty as hell. Billy, you understand this whole situation. You know what you're dealing with. Why are you walking up here talking tough, bro?
00:59:40
Speaker 2: He had six niggas with him, bro. How many times has that happened, though?
00:59:44
Speaker 3: I would have made a special plan for him, though. I'm beating all six of y'all ass, but I'm going to kick his ass for playing.
00:59:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, Billy knew what was up. He walked up out of nowhere, though.
00:59:54
Speaker 1: Well, I think Nick, you're right, because it was so many... Others, he thought he stood a chance. But that's a big muscle to do, bro. Why would you even take the chance? But he did, and he got mopped up.
01:00:09
Speaker 2: The only thing is he probably, well, he should know that because he was Hal's lawyer.
01:00:14
Speaker 3: He's a Marine, too.
01:00:15
Speaker 2: It ain't like he just big black.
01:00:18
Speaker 3: And he looked like he could whoop all of their asses. That didn't look unbelievable at all. They should have knew that. Yeah, he could.
01:00:24
Speaker 5: Whoop all their asses, bro.
01:00:26
Speaker 1: When he was done, he buttoned his coat up and straightened his outfit.
01:00:31
Speaker 5: Back together and left.
01:00:35
Speaker 2: That was the disrespect. He left to go eat dinner with his ex-wife. honestly this scene makes so much more sense now because i'm like bro if i'm billy i'm pulling up on him too you fucked my life over yeah exactly i'm pulling up too drunk and as a matter of fact he probably heard it's a small town he heard he was back Ain't that many niggas coming through?
01:01:07
Speaker 3: No.
01:01:08
Speaker 2: He was the.
01:01:10
Speaker 3: Only one I saw in this whole shit. In Rushville, Nick.
01:01:15
Speaker 2: He's the only nigga in Rushville. That's going to be the spinoff.
01:01:21
Speaker 3: The only nigga in Rushville.
01:01:25
Speaker 2: It's about the black family that had to rebuild. They was middle class, Jay. That's him, John. No, shut up. The only thing in Westfield. But I, that was, that was, that.
01:01:49
Speaker 3: Was interesting though.
01:01:50
Speaker 2: But we see that John has dinner with Sheriff Kelly and, um, Noah and shit. But it gets cut short. When Carrie gets a phone call, the nigga act like he ain't know that she was going to get a phone call. He over there eating dinner and some other shit. But this made me think back to, I think, was it the first episode? Remember when Hal got into that bar fight just to get thrown in jail?
01:02:11
Speaker 3: Yep.
01:02:12
Speaker 2: Like, I was thinking, was this his version of like, his version of like, I know I'm going to go to jail, so I don't give a fuck? Nope.
01:02:19
Speaker 3: I think it was Carrie's.
01:02:21
Speaker 1: Being a piece of shit. He had no business putting his ass in jail. You don't call me all the way out here. Nah, no, she didn't.
01:02:31
Speaker 3: She just.
01:02:31
Speaker 2: She had a money back. That's why. The title of the show, Ken, is Bad Optics.
01:02:37
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:02:40
Speaker 5: No.
01:02:40
Speaker 3: It would look crazy if he beat off out of the ass. He was jumped. Nah, he told, look, they jumped me. They were attacking me. I was defending myself.
01:02:54
Speaker 2: And it's Rushfield.
01:02:55
Speaker 3: It's Rushfield.
01:02:57
Speaker 2: Do we have to state the obvious here?
01:02:58
Speaker 3: Like, do we need to start there?
01:03:00
Speaker 2: First of all, it's Rushfield. Jay was about to say that. Jay the most optimistic nigga here.
01:03:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was about to say it was Rushfield.
01:03:10
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't beat up five white men and get away with it. You can't beat five white men up nowhere and get away with it, really.
01:03:16
Speaker 3: Like, so come on, you're going to jail. Like, you beat five white men up, you're going to jail. You can figure everything else out on the back end of court. You might get off, but I promise you if you beat five white men up in the night, you're going to jail at some point in time at night. So, yeah, I expect him to do it. This is to protect you.
01:03:31
Speaker 1: He in there talking to Luis or whatever that guy's name is.
01:03:35
Speaker 5: I can't believe this phone call.
01:03:38
Speaker 2: Louise ain't want to give him his phone call either.
01:03:42
Speaker 5: Nah, he didn't. But this was fucked up, though. She know what it is.
01:03:47
Speaker 3: Was it fucked up, Jay? Nah, she kind of didn't have a choice at that point.
01:03:52
Speaker 4: So the fact that he hit it, I think if he would have went there and told her straight up what happened, then she probably would have tried to figure it out. But yeah, at that point, she didn't have a choice because he hit it from her.
01:04:05
Speaker 5: I looked at it differently.
01:04:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken, I was with you. It was, because to me, it's like, why I got to go to jail, though? You could have just, you know, put me on house arrest, you know, say that you under my watch, right?
01:04:17
Speaker 3: No, you got to get arrested. I'm the sheriff. You committed a crime in the town. It was assault. How is that a crime? It is assault. You can figure all that shit out with the judge, but it's a crime. It's still assault. When blows exchange or even spit, it's assault. You got to figure everything else out with the judge. I got to lock you up if I'm the sheriff. Especially if they reported. It's different if he would have reported on them. He didn't say that.
01:04:46
Speaker 4: And he didn't say anything, so they reported him for assault. So that's, I mean, that's how it really goes.
01:04:50
Speaker 2: So then he wanted to go to.
01:04:53
Speaker 3: Maybe, I don't know.
01:04:54
Speaker 4: But, I mean, also, like, she's the sheriff, and everybody in the town hates this nigga. So, like, you take his side, you take his side, when they leave, you gotta stay.
01:05:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:05:11
Speaker 2: Well, the next day we see the lantern... beacon thing works because then God pulls up to the jail. Jay, what did you think about this conversation between God and John?
01:05:23
Speaker 3: God's funny, bro.
01:05:25
Speaker 4: In a way, he was getting punked. He was basically getting punked and trying to show off at the same time. He was like, everything John was saying, like, nigga, you got a point.
01:05:34
Speaker 3: But nigga, I got the ring.
01:05:36
Speaker 4: And basically, how the whole thing came off, like, yeah, everything you're saying is true. Yeah, I wouldn't have this shit if it wasn't for you. But at the same time, nigga, I got it. So, what the fuck? Like, we knew he was going to do this shit when he left, too. But it was entertaining, if anything else. Like, this was probably the most entertaining piece of the episode because everything else felt so serious.
01:05:57
Speaker 3: So, this is probably, like, the most, like, relaxed the episode was. You fuck with it, Lou?
01:06:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did.
01:06:06
Speaker 3: I like this dude that plays the gray ladder. See, he's really good to me and the other places these popped up men as well so i agree with jay it was the uh conversation was entertaining the banter back and forth it even showed that john still had like even though dude was atlanta john still had his like dominance over him like he still lacked a little bit of respect that you would think that he would have for him uh versus how the relationship was the other way so i like.
01:06:33
Speaker 1: To Telling somebody that the only reason you got this job because I didn't want it was kind.
01:06:40
Speaker 3: Of fucked up. You wouldn't be here if it wasn't for me.
01:06:42
Speaker 2: How would y'all take that?
01:06:44
Speaker 3: How do y'all take that if you heard.
01:06:45
Speaker 2: Somebody say that?
01:06:46
Speaker 3: You ain't lying. You ain't lying.
01:06:48
Speaker 4: I think it's different if a white man said it to me than when a black man said it to a white man.
01:06:53
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you see what he did? He shrugged it off like.
01:06:58
Speaker 2: And left his ass behind bars, too. He shrugged it off like a rainy day.
01:07:01
Speaker 3: Um....
01:07:04
Speaker 2: Ken, but you called this the Sinestro breaking out of prison.
01:07:09
Speaker 4: Oh.
01:07:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's probably going to be for season two, though. I guess. I don't know what's going to happen from here.
01:07:14
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be.
01:07:16
Speaker 2: I think we get a movie instead of a season two.
01:07:18
Speaker 3: Oh.
01:07:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know who broke him out, though, and how he got out, but it'll be interesting to hear that story. But, yeah, this was just going to put closure on everything that just happened before. We're going to spend the next week Episode seven of this whole Sinestro thing, then, yeah, it was kind of cool how they dropped that little nugget in there. It kind of reminds me of a comic book, too, where they'll spend a panel or a page on something, a future story arc. And whether it's going to be Jon Stewart or Guy Gardner, you'll have to deal with that issue. And, yeah, this Sinestro thing could be a problem.
01:08:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like this show has gotten too popular for not to have a movie now. And I think the star is big enough.
01:08:11
Speaker 3: Pause. Who are you talking about? Peter?
01:08:15
Speaker 4: Yeah. You think they'll do a movie based off this?
01:08:19
Speaker 2: I think they'll give him his movie. But, I mean, there's going to be other Green Lanterns in it, too, so it's not going to be just him. I'm just saying, but I think he'll be the first villain.
01:08:27
Speaker 3: I don't think they will. I don't think they will.
01:08:30
Speaker 4: I think what I need to see first is who's all introduced in Superman first, though.
01:08:34
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I think it's going to come after Superman, like, based on the popularity. Since he'll be in that one, and then it'll be like, you know, Black Panther and Civil War, then he got Black Panther.
01:08:45
Speaker 4: I mean, if Superman introduced other characters in the Justice League, then we'll see who next.
01:08:53
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. But I did think that Sinestro thing will maybe play out in season two, but I think it's going to be in a movie. What were your thoughts? This is the best nigga I've seen in the show for me. When he gets bailed out, and his brother, you see all the phone calls he missed, and he called his brother Aaron. Hey, Luke, this was the most nigga conversation I heard in a long time on HBO. And he hate that nickname, Chosen.
01:09:26
Speaker 3: I would, too.
01:09:27
Speaker 2: They being petty as hell. What's up, Chosen?
01:09:29
Speaker 3: Nigga, you hate what you call me. You hate what.
01:09:33
Speaker 2: You call me, man. He was right. He was like, daddy over there yelling about some shit fucked up out in the street shooting niggas. Go pick him up. He was like, nigga, that's your daddy. You pick him up. If I'm paying for your studio time, my nigga session over, bro. Go pick up dad.
01:09:53
Speaker 3: If I'm calling you and I'm busy and I'm the one, go pick up dad, dude. Yes, I felt this conversation as far as the nigga shit, what you was talking about, nigga. This nigga really thought he had a point. Like, bro, you're not working on your mixtape. They're like, what the fuck are you even working on? Dad just shot somebody or shot a gun somewhere. And you think that that's more important. So, yeah.
01:10:15
Speaker 5: If anything, you can make a rap song out of it.
01:10:17
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:10:18
Speaker 3: Go back and reschedule.
01:10:20
Speaker 2: Make some bars about it.
01:10:23
Speaker 3: Rap about the Trump.
01:10:24
Speaker 2: Hey, Jay, he was like, when you want me to go pick up dad? He's like, nigga, now.
01:10:31
Speaker 5: He was mad.
01:10:32
Speaker 2: He was upset. He was like, all right, nigga.
01:10:36
Speaker 5: Because his brother probably ain't working.
01:10:38
Speaker 2: Is that his little brother? I think it's Aaron, him, and then he got his other brother.
01:10:48
Speaker 3: No, no, he's the youngest. No, he's the youngest. He's the youngest. Because remember, he's the baby. It was older brother studios.
01:10:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are his older brothers.
01:10:56
Speaker 3: You can't talk to me like that. Just ask me what I need. Hey, when I call, just ask me what I need you to do, man.
01:11:02
Speaker 2: Just don't leave me.
01:11:03
Speaker 3: I don't even want to hear none of the rest of this shit. When I hit you up, what do you need, bro? Go do it. That's it. Right.
01:11:09
Speaker 5: You work for me now.
01:11:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, you work for me now. If I'm a little broke playing for the studio.
01:11:15
Speaker 2: Time, ah, no.
01:11:15
Speaker 3: Just ask me what I need when I call.
01:11:17
Speaker 2: I can tell you have brothers going on the way you talk to me. You think.
01:11:21
Speaker 3: You think.
01:11:22
Speaker 2: This shit is just like, you say one thing and they just gonna do it. These are black men.
01:11:29
Speaker 4: Who know everything about you, nigga.
01:11:34
Speaker 3: These niggas have grown up with you your whole life.
01:11:38
Speaker 2: They don't give a fuck about anything you talk about.
01:11:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.
01:11:43
Speaker 1: Because they know he was a Green Lantern. They know he turned down the job. They know he's a Marine. All that shit went.
01:11:48
Speaker 5: Out the door.
01:11:49
Speaker 3: I don't care if you're going to be a superhero or any of that shit. You ain't none of that shit now.
01:11:57
Speaker 2: Why you quit before you start the job? That's what they tell you. Mama and daddy put all this shit. You know they had that big ass diamond. We could have went to Six Flags and Disney World, Disneyland. We just better not go goofy ass and you said no.
01:12:10
Speaker 4: Them niggas mad, too, man. They ain't even give us no childhood because of you, nigga. Like, they've been focused on you the whole time, and you ain't even do shit, nigga.
01:12:18
Speaker 3: You ain't do shit with it, nigga.
01:12:19
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. That's why I'm upset with him. You better pay for it.
01:12:23
Speaker 5: Well, that's why I'm paying for your studio time. Right.
01:12:27
Speaker 2: But that's why I'm upset with him with Marcus, because Marcus is like, bro, come on, bro. I need this bread.
01:12:32
Speaker 3: Like, what are you talking about?
01:12:34
Speaker 5: Marcus needed that shit, bro.
01:12:36
Speaker 3: Marcus needed it.
01:12:37
Speaker 2: He made a lot of promises to his wife.
01:12:39
Speaker 3: He did something, bro. He had to flip all that shit back. He hate God.
01:12:43
Speaker 2: His favorites on Zillow. His favorites on Zillow.
01:12:51
Speaker 3: He know just where he was going. He got the car picked out. All of this.
01:12:55
Speaker 2: He already got the loan, Lou. He got everything ready. He got the loan. They were playing the vacation. He done picked the ring out.
01:13:05
Speaker 3: All of this. You ain't playing. Gotta go home, baby.
01:13:08
Speaker 4: You know that Van Cleef I gave you last week?
01:13:11
Speaker 3: Let me tell you about this crazy shit.
01:13:14
Speaker 4: Let me tell you about this crazy shit that happened with this nigga, John.
01:13:18
Speaker 9: This nigga, John, man, you know how he be, man. You know how he get, man. You know my little brother, right? Oh, boy, he fucked up.
01:13:29
Speaker 2: Um, yeah, what we, uh, we see, well, once we see how, or John go back to house crib, we see that the server at the diner, she just sitting there waiting for him. The one that was kind of flirting with him earlier on. Um, Jay, what did you think about Maggie?
01:13:46
Speaker 3: I thought she was gangsta, man.
01:13:49
Speaker 4: She was just like, hey, I need the money, my boy.
01:13:54
Speaker 3: I got a secret. You don't want it out.
01:13:57
Speaker 4: Let's just pay up. I just thought it was gangsta, though. Like, when they put the camera on her in the beginning, I thought maybe she was with Hal.
01:14:06
Speaker 3: When Hal dies, like, nah.
01:14:08
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think there's still more to her other than what we just got just now. But I just thought it was gangsta the way she walked in there. Do y'all remember who she was in episode five?
01:14:17
Speaker 2: She was the little girl that I think he gave the watch to.
01:14:20
Speaker 3: Okay.
01:14:21
Speaker 4: I know she said it, but I didn't go back and watch it.
01:14:23
Speaker 2: That's why she brought up the watch when she was at the table. That's what I'm assuming.
01:14:29
Speaker 3: I could be wrong.
01:14:30
Speaker 4: I know she said, like, you don't even remember me. So I was trying to figure out where it was, but.
01:14:35
Speaker 5: I didn't go back and look.
01:14:37
Speaker 3: What she was going to tell? What did she want the $ 300, 000 for?
01:14:40
Speaker 2: Because she was there at the diner when he went to go see Hal's whatever. So she know that what happened.
01:14:45
Speaker 3: I would have just told her, I ain't give you $ 300, 000 for that. I got two things for that kid. One, white Tulsa. This is what white people would do. Go up to the next black person's house and say, give me my land back.
01:14:57
Speaker 2: Give me my money. And two, John struck this shit off like this. I don't even know why they put this in the show. Noah dropped his suit off and he went right to the funeral. He ain't give a fuck about whatever. Because she said it broke down to the cents, Jay. She said $ 300, 000, $ 14, 000, $ 1, 400, three nickels and four dimes.
01:15:27
Speaker 3: Like. It's so funny. They ain't show John a face or nothing. There was literally no reaction focus from the show on this. It was like, okay, yeah. He wasn't studying that number at all. But I do want to say, I think something weird about the sheriff's son. You think he a manhunter? I don't know if he a manhunter, but something weird about him. the way that they focus in him like him randomly popping up and just it's just something weird or awful about him.
01:16:12
Speaker 2: Well speaking of that I was going to ask about that as far as like what do you think about that short conversation that John had with Noah it does seem like they're trying to allude to something but maybe it's just conversation I don't know I don't know it's.
01:16:24
Speaker 3: Like they're lingering on something yeah I don't know what it is but The conversation was cool, though. Which part are you talking about that John told him?
01:16:36
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was just a scene for him just to tell him, listen, I know you got a lot of pressure on you because everybody's wanting to know where you want to go to school at. But don't let that, you know, set your own bar and shit like that.
01:16:47
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
01:16:48
Speaker 2: Was that him? Like, was that this scene to show that this is what John wished that somebody told him back in the day type shit? That he's giving that advice? Or is it like to what you're saying, Lou, this kid an alien and we don't know that he's actually being nice to the alien?
01:17:01
Speaker 3: I think it's more so that. I think it's more so that is what they're doing. Because remember, even when the Manhunter later... Yeah, I guess I remember what I like.
01:17:08
Speaker 5: They focus.
01:17:09
Speaker 3: They hyper focus on him in specific moments for some reason when people are talking about what they taught him. Like that lady was she was like, remember what I taught you? They were forget it when they were regardless of what happens. And now John talking to him like this. So it just makes me think something up with him.
01:17:29
Speaker 2: We didn't see how, you know, what did you think about the funeral that Hal had basically for himself?
01:17:40
Speaker 5: It went as expected that shit was bare.
01:17:44
Speaker 1: It was just him there but I thought it was dope with the letter that was a Hal Jordan letter through and through but I liked how it seemed like he was writing at the end to John about his decision and it just seemed like those words were for him so I liked that part which, you know, definitely I'm sure, well, yeah, definitely played a part in his decision later on. And it seemed like John got a little choked up and caught up in it as well, which, you know, surprised me a little bit.
01:18:24
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, that was, that's what I took away from it.
01:18:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, like at the end of it, like you said, Ken, like I was surprised that Hal said those things about John without like making him seem like it was about himself.
01:18:43
Speaker 3: Because again, like the.
01:18:44
Speaker 2: Times that they had, it maybe felt like this is the only person that understands what kind of job I do. and there's a special bond within that as far as like bruh i actually see you you could like i wouldn't mind if you had been my replacement if they would have done it a different way you know i'm saying like I like that was the case for that, but I also feel like John just wanted to give a nigga a proper burial. If you're going to do this job, you deserve to be at least buried. I don't know why he did, Jay. I'm just saying it just felt like he had it in his heart to be like, this nigga's a green lantern at the end of the day. He needs to be buried like a hero.
01:19:19
Speaker 3: At least decent.
01:19:22
Speaker 4: And that ain't going to give a fuck about his burial, because if he did, he wouldn't have dug him up.
01:19:26
Speaker 3: That ain't going to give a fuck about none of that shit.
01:19:27
Speaker 2: He wouldn't have found out who killed him.
01:19:29
Speaker 3: That's why he.
01:19:29
Speaker 4: Doesn't... My point, he doesn't really give... All that extra shit was just... It was nice, but he didn't really care about it. He was doing all the optic shit in order to get what he's about to get. What part of the speech do y'all think he was writing towards Jean?
01:19:46
Speaker 3: When he was getting choked up at the end, when he was like....
01:19:51
Speaker 2: I forgot what he said exactly, but it seemed like he was actually writing in the way that John would read it and understand what he's saying. I didn't take it that way.
01:19:58
Speaker 4: I took it as he wrote this at a time when he was probably on a high, like he was in more of.
01:20:05
Speaker 3: A pristine look as Delana.
01:20:07
Speaker 4: Because especially when he was talking, obviously he thought a lot of people would be there, for one. And then he didn't even know who the replacement would be when he was like man, woman, or whatever.
01:20:17
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
01:20:18
Speaker 4: So he wrote this at a time when he was probably just like, yo, I'm going to have this for whenever I do die.
01:20:24
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Like that was more so of it.
01:20:28
Speaker 4: But the part that resonated was towards the end where it just sounded like he was lonely in the job. Like he, he felt the job still didn't really complete him. Like it, it like, what did, what did he say? Um, Oh, it, it, he was doing it for a reason, but he felt that it wasn't. It was like, I hope that I mattered or.
01:20:54
Speaker 3: Something like that. You know what I'm saying?
01:20:56
Speaker 4: So it was like, it was more so like a, that piece of it was more so like, yeah, he really cared about this job, but it took a lot from him. So he's hoping that it actually meant something to like.
01:21:07
Speaker 3: To do the job.
01:21:09
Speaker 1: He said, maybe it was just easier to fly than it was to stay on the ground.
01:21:12
Speaker 5: I hope I mattered.
01:21:13
Speaker 1: But I think the part before that, it seemed like it was, it was, it was, tailored towards john stewart even though it may not have been it seemed like it sounded like uh he probably kind of took it that way like he misunderstood what.
01:21:30
Speaker 5: Being a green.
01:21:31
Speaker 1: Lantern was all about which is why he originally turned down the job.
01:21:38
Speaker 2: Yeah but to your point jay digging up his body because he knew he got like Guy did come through. I was surprised that Guy did the thing because he was like, I could have went to jail for even getting a suit and his ring, but it's supposed to be decommissioned. But, John, remember, to your point, Jay, I think this is brilliant is what you're saying. Like, from the beginning, once he found out that that nigga was dead, he had this plan all along of how to solve it. Like, I gotta do this, I gotta do that.
01:22:06
Speaker 3: Like, and I.
01:22:08
Speaker 2: Gotta pretend, like you said, to bury this nigga to get his ring so I can talk to the hologram and be like, alright nigga, what happened? I do.
01:22:17
Speaker 3: I agree with that 100%. It's so Hal doing that in the previous episode. He got the chops to do this. I do agree with y'all. As it was going through, I didn't like it, but once they got to the reveal and I realized what he was doing, I was like, okay, gotcha. Which made the episode better for me. I didn't think that's.
01:22:37
Speaker 5: What he was doing. I.
01:22:38
Speaker 1: I thought he just.
01:22:43
Speaker 1: But that makes a lot of sense. I took it as like, well, he dead now.
01:22:47
Speaker 4: You know and he got caught when he put the ring on you thought you got caught at the end.
01:22:53
Speaker 1: Of the episode I might as well go out and get it that would be in the ground and he just took.
01:23:01
Speaker 2: It that is hilarious that is some nigga shit if he did it I wouldn't you can't really cause that he proved God was right he was like you a nasty motherfucker he just wanna take his ring when he dead and shit he was like man they ain't even like that bro He can't use it anymore. Oh, that shit funny as hell.
01:23:27
Speaker 4: That is some nigga shit before.
01:23:29
Speaker 3: Man, I ain't even.
01:23:32
Speaker 2: Thinking about that shit. You got a whole scheme. This nigga had it. Because it makes sense why he acted the way he did at the beacon. The lantern beacon where he knew he was going to get in a fight. He was egging them on the whole time. He was like, what you doing over here? He was like, man, it's fucked up. He got this.
01:23:52
Speaker 3: Which is similar to what Hal did. When he knew somebody was going to do something when he did something provocative. He was aggravating somebody by doing something. Playing the songs. Yeah, exactly. Playing the songs, dude.
01:24:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm locked in, bro. That's why I said I fuck with this episode.
01:24:12
Speaker 3: I mean, the episode was still good. It's not a thing like the episode. It's just the worst of the batch, but it was still good. It's still a enjoyable show. I still fuck with it. If I had to rank them, this would be the least favorite, but I didn't dislike it, though.
01:24:26
Speaker 5: This is also unexpected. What's Carol Ferris? Carol Ferris?
01:24:33
Speaker 3: Who is she?
01:24:33
Speaker 5: That's his girlfriend. That was Hal's girlfriend in the comics.
01:24:38
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
01:24:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, so.
01:24:40
Speaker 1: That's why you had that random white woman that popped up.
01:24:44
Speaker 5: Wait, what?
01:24:45
Speaker 3: What happened?
01:24:46
Speaker 1: The one that gave John the letter and said Hal wrote his own eulogy and he wanted you to read it.
01:24:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's who that was, Carol.
01:24:56
Speaker 2: Who is it?
01:24:57
Speaker 5: Hal's ex-girlfriend.
01:25:00
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I did say they said she may be Batwoman or some shit like that.
01:25:04
Speaker 2: No no that's not the sheriff not the sheriff you talking about the white woman that gave John the eulogy the letter.
01:25:10
Speaker 1: She does she yeah she yeah she's somebody else so she turns into another yeah they say she turns into fire I think yeah okay gotcha yeah but that's some other shit.
01:25:21
Speaker 3: This was expected though that's why.
01:25:23
Speaker 4: Like you had that high of a high for five it's like yeah you can't you can't keep riding that momentum like it's not like it's house of dragons Where it's like niggas are constantly in battle with each other. It was like, all right, we got to come back down in order to go back to this, basically, what you say, the second season.
01:25:42
Speaker 3: So, season 1.5.
01:25:45
Speaker 2: So, but this is the penultimate episode, I believe.
01:25:48
Speaker 5: So.
01:25:49
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just one more? Yeah, we just got seven and eight. So, like, this is number... If it was a 10 episode, it'd be number nine.
01:25:56
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:25:57
Speaker 2: No, this was six. So, we going to number seven next week.
01:26:00
Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.
01:26:01
Speaker 5: That's what you're saying.
01:26:03
Speaker 3: So it's two more looks. Yeah.
01:26:05
Speaker 2: So we got to solve the mystery by two weeks. Or he get his own movie.
01:26:10
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:26:10
Speaker 3: They're going to solve this shit in my next episode.
01:26:13
Speaker 5: That's too much money for him.
01:26:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be solved by the end of the episode.
01:26:17
Speaker 2: Dang, I don't believe the nigga can get his own movie.
01:26:20
Speaker 3: That's not what he's saying. It depends on how he does in the next movie. Like, whatever role that y'all saying that he got, it depends on how the reaction is to that or how much of a role that he has in that. combined with the show but just off the show no but it has to be in combination with that movie.
01:26:36
Speaker 4: And the next the thing is too even if they do do it they would have to because based off my ignorance of Green Lantern it's more about being in this like the universe being out near the stars in the galaxy so you would have to begin to have a season that makes him more out out there than having him on earth right now he's an.
01:26:59
Speaker 3: Earth based character which doesn't make sense to have his story here.
01:27:02
Speaker 4: So you need a whole nother season in order to make sure people come to grips with, okay, he's in the galaxy now.
01:27:08
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
01:27:09
Speaker 4: That's a big, that's a big leap right now. You got him solving crime on earth. Like it's only so much of this you can do in a blockbuster movie.
01:27:20
Speaker 2: Y'all putting limitation on this black man.
01:27:22
Speaker 5: I see.
01:27:23
Speaker 2: Oh, but any other thoughts on this episode? Did y'all like how we ended?
01:27:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:27:33
Speaker 1: You know, he got the ring. He fucked up the deal. The colonel hung up on him. And his mother told him.
01:27:44
Speaker 3: That's what happened.
01:27:45
Speaker 2: Nigga said, call a drop. Him being in a ditch in Nebraska and his brother got the colonel in person, Lou, he told him he was going to be there the whole time.
01:27:55
Speaker 3: His word ain't shit.
01:27:56
Speaker 2: He a Marine.
01:27:57
Speaker 3: How your word ain't shit and you a Marine? Right.
01:28:02
Speaker 10: I think the call dropped Nah He said the colonel He said The colonel said You went worse than the time You can't You don't have the dignity To come see me You want me to talk to you On the phone And you asking me for money Come.
01:28:12
Speaker 5: On Yeah Yeah we good.
01:28:17
Speaker 2: But Marcus was a good brother He was like Listen bro I just hope The thing you chased Ain't gonna kill you Like it killed him He ain't say that Like his other brother Would've You know Ain't give a fuck about him He actually cared about Like he was like Nigga you could've just We could've just Ran the family business But you didn't wanna do that You want to dig a ditch in Nebraska?
01:28:34
Speaker 3: I wasn't meant for that. You know what I'm saying?
01:28:36
Speaker 2: I wasn't built for that.
01:28:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't built.
01:28:41
Speaker 2: For that, man. For a 5% ring. Name a full charge ring. Jay, he ain't even a Green Lantern.
01:28:49
Speaker 3: Hey, man.
01:28:50
Speaker 2: He a Green Lantern on layaway.
01:28:53
Speaker 3: Hey, man.
01:28:55
Speaker 4: I was made to be this man for this 5%.
01:28:58
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? I was made to be this.
01:29:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to go dig it out of a ditch from a.
01:29:07
Speaker 2: You're a grave robber. You ain't no goddamn Green Lantern.
01:29:11
Speaker 5: This man stole a ring, bro.
01:29:13
Speaker 3: Even in the damn movies.
01:29:16
Speaker 2: Can't let these nigglets get in. That's why it's called Lanterns, kid. They ain't green.
01:29:27
Speaker 3: It's just a nigga in a ditch.
01:29:37
Speaker 2: That's what they show it, Jay. That's all I'm saying.
01:29:39
Speaker 3: That's what they show it.
01:29:41
Speaker 2: He better be green at the end of this shit. I don't give a damn if he got a movie, Ken.
01:29:45
Speaker 3: I ain't seeing it. If he ain't green by the end of this. Oh, so you wouldn't wait?
01:29:52
Speaker 2: If he's not Green Lantern by episode 8, like, got the ring and I'm green and everybody knows me, No, I don't give a fuck about it. I don't give a damn about Jon Stewart after this.
01:30:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got to be some type of winter green or whatever, bro.
01:30:06
Speaker 2: Summer green, blue green, sea green.
01:30:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, this nigga alive. I ain't paying to go on.
01:30:18
Speaker 2: Green apple. Come on, look.
01:30:25
Speaker 3: Like fucking seaweed, bro.
01:30:29
Speaker 2: Jay, I got to report back to Mike. I got to tell Mike what he missed out on. If Mike asks me, oh, what do you look like as the Green Lantern? I'd be like, about that.
01:30:38
Speaker 3: Come on.
01:30:40
Speaker 2: He gonna skip it. We wasted eight hours for what? To see a nigga dig a ditch in Nebraska? The Jon Stewart store. Yeah, you can keep that.
01:30:52
Speaker 5: You can keep that.
01:30:53
Speaker 1: The white man running around hanging out with Superman and this damn fake-ass damn Mr.
01:31:00
Speaker 5: T Terrific motherfucker. And Hal is in here. Jon's digging a ditch. Come on, man.
01:31:08
Speaker 1: This motherfucker got a damn Batman sitting there pointing in the sun and took his time getting there, too.
01:31:13
Speaker 3: A man once told me, man. A man told me this weekend.
01:31:17
Speaker 5: Jon right there.
01:31:19
Speaker 3: Sometimes shit just don't happen.
01:31:23
Speaker 2: Hey, man. Yeah, tell that to Marcus. Marcus upset. His woman packing her bags right now because she think he a lying ass nigga.
01:31:34
Speaker 5: Well, John.
01:31:37
Speaker 1: And this Hal about to go to this brown box and they about to get some shit straight.
01:31:43
Speaker 2: Now, that box thing, we ain't never seen that box again. That was a one and done scene.
01:31:50
Speaker 3: That's how they're going to get in, man, the hologram. He was like, God damn it. Hey, I tell you, I would send the hologram over there so he can't do nothing to it, but I ain't going with you.
01:32:01
Speaker 7: You figure out how to get in that box. I ain't going to be in the room. You already told me. You already told me what's going to happen. So, what I need you to do is go figure it out.
01:32:13
Speaker 5: I ain't going, though.
01:32:14
Speaker 2: Because, you know, he can project past where he's from.
01:32:17
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
01:32:19
Speaker 2: Put that motherfucker right in there.
01:32:20
Speaker 3: Hey, go over there and figure that out. But I'm not going.
01:32:23
Speaker 2: He already told me. He already told me, though. That's funny. All right. Well, those are our thoughts on this episode of Lanterns. Please let us know what you guys think. FPS Podcast is a Reddit thread. That's also our handle for IG and Twitter. And we'll catch you on the next one.
01:32:42
Speaker 3: We out. Peace.
01:32:44
Speaker 5: Peace. Peace.