Episode 121: Same As It Ever Was

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is the first read ultimate Spider-Man podcast where we discuss Miles Morales, the one and only Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Zach and joining me today, fresh off the heels of the Lion Eye Victory is Johnny Paycheck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How do you do Lion Eye?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ask you, wow, wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the Lion Eye cheer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They say, ask you, wow, wow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Huh, I'm guessing that's taken from like it's a Native American champ.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Zack us a lie And I fans we are very respectful of our Native American heritage and culture right right bring back the chief That's not like these brothers was telling me not like those Florida state seminal assholes
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[SPEAKER_03]: They ruined it for the rest of us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, do they?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did not heard about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: People, that's like the the mascot that people have the biggest problem with.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because they have like the Tomahawk chop for their celebrations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see the Native American tribe that the Alignite, the Alignite, they've given their blessing to use.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, okay, you want to hear, but I went to the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's hear about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone, give the backstory, though, about why you're suddenly in a line.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, it's not like you're alma mater isn't the top team in football or anything, but we're not going to talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I, you fan, ever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I texted you at one point I was like so which means more than winning the big 10 championship or Illinois Caching your bet and you never responded.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did I not, Illinois Caching the bet, for sure, but it feels pretty good, both feel pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, it feels good to now just be able to be a straight-up who's your fan, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have my allegiance to split.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay, I went to this game, the backstory is as if anybody listening to this podcast doesn't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My couple of friends and I made a big bet on the Illinois wind season total over and they had to get to eight wins and all year it was looking pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then it came down to this very last week against the team that they should beat Northwestern they were seven and four needed the win to get to eight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and um the girl that I've been dating that I mentioned on here the past couple of episodes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's from Illinois and we went to the Northwestern Illinois season finale football game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was um Illinois like champagne, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's from champagne, Illinois.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Her family is like huge Illinois fans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was kismet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This could not have been set up better for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and, um, and it was the coldest and snowiest game in Illinois football history, and, uh, it was like completely, you know, there were, it was three-fourths empty, maybe even more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just like, but it was pretty fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and they did it bring home the win and it was awesome and I was definitely I definitely treated it as if it was my alma mater while I was there to make all the shants.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you that We'll just throw this out there too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I definitely the type of person when I go to the football games I immediately take on a like we versus that person, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The whole game I'm like very aggressively like we're going to beat these city boys from that northwestern.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't know what they're doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They can't handle the cool like we can over here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, the Chicago team can't handle the cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, just making no sense, but you know having fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I love how your allegiance is, you probably have a lot more fun with sports because
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[SPEAKER_03]: you make smart bets and then you just root for whatever team you bet it on instead of like having to go through the cumbersome process of like watching your team suck becoming a fan yeah well i appreciate you saying i make smart bets that's a very hard comment well isn't that this math one that's worked out but really it's
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're really the reason I have more fun, and I try to tell people this is I just root for anybody, you know, I root for whatever team I want to As if they're my favorite team on earth You know, and it's pretty fun
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of similar to what I think of fair weather.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yeah, it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's very similar to what I've done for the last 10 years, which is like whatever show I am at in that moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I am the biggest fan of that band.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I might know two songs by them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm going to sing those two songs, and I'm going to jump off the stage and hurt myself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you're there, they're your favorite band of all time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, well, speaking of bands and speaking of that trip to Champagne, Illinois, you also saw the other picture, I sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listeners, Zach wanted me to take a picture in front of the American football house.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I even said that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, uh, uh, I just said that's what a lot of people do, and I wanted you to ask this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, boy, yes, he did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You did not ask me to take a picture in front of him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But how could I not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You went above and beyond.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really close to where they live.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we were right next to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how they sort of like get a detour.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they didn't know about it at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a price.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, her parents are like driving us in the car.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We like dragged them out into the snow to like go and drive around and take this fixture in front of this right in the house.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it, but it was a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know I'm the only like emo you know, but if you ever meet a second one, you show them that picture you have street cred.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, she has a friend who listens to that type of music and, and he, you know, she's, she sent it to him and he.
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[SPEAKER_02]: gave some like AI type of answer I was like did he put that in AI and it like spent that I was some long and long thing but apparently he was pretty impressed about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was not as good as your response which was immediate and all caps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No f**k way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: because I didn't think you were going to go by the I thought you might mention it at the dinner table like hey do you guys know about this stupid house that's like kind of internet famous in your neighborhood and they would say yes or no and then that would be that but then you just like showed up there and then took like the most photogenic picture it looks like you just bought the place it looked like you were like posing in front of your new house.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the day after I left or we left and came back to Indy, her brother and his wife were at some like art event, and there was like a framed drawing of
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[SPEAKER_02]: The American football house that they like sent to them, and they had never heard of it either But I bet now that they know about it living so close.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They will start to like see stuff everywhere Or don't know where, but you know, yeah, now they'll notice it every time they see that house Dorks taking pictures in that driveway and what yeah That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Do you think there's any chance you would have gone to that game if you weren't dating her just because of your bet
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe like 2%, maybe like there's a chance with the other guys that I bet on, but they want to have been able to go, so I'd say like 0%, but the idea probably still would have been like floated, right, you would have at least watched it on TV, oh of course, but you know, she was the one that bought the tickets for them, and it was like a miserable game for everybody that was there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: tickets I think you could buy tickets for like four dollars and she ended up buying these seats where we were like intersection where we could go inside to like a seated area that's like it was just it was the only section in the entire stadium that was sold out and had I bought tickets I would have got us in the door and it would have been four dollars each and it would have been like the most miserable time ever and instead it was you know
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to give props to my, my woman here, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And something very nice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you're like this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of feel like snow is good football weather.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's what it never really happens.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I I was telling her family the whole couple days leading up to it where everyone is like you guys are so stupid for going to this game It's gonna be the most miserable thing ever and I am telling her family the whole week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like no way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is football You know it's in the snow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be cold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were like nobody's gonna be there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The stadium is gonna be empty
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I told him, I think you guys are wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People like going to snow football games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's going to like show up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the finale against a rival's in-state school team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See in your night?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it was empty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could not have been more wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then we'll do the school later than I did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well awesome dude.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad you enjoyed your your little trip over to scenic picturesque champagne It was a ton of fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What else are we coming in hot with?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You got anything?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know if I do have anything else I'm coming in hot with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we get into it and I'll try to think in the background for the end.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sounds good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're back and today we are getting back into ultimate Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: John, did you remember this series?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've read a little bit of it before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: it has been a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even remember what series were like in any more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They seem to kind of be in a state where they're flowing together at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: United we stand to divide we fall as a whole event is very like integrated.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I actually read
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[SPEAKER_03]: all of it today because I also finished all of the ultimate X-Men stuff and I think I realized Captain America is in like all of these issues like across all of the all of the titles well they just benched him for the destruction of the earth right yeah he had to come back in a big way after he sat on the bench for the maker
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, by the way, what are we getting back into that guy?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he'll pop back up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he, he flares up occasionally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He kind of reminds me of Vectna.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you've been watching Stranger Thegas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't been watching the new season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't really either, but I just now made that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just now thought that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not something I've been thinking for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But when I picture them, they're both weird looking freaks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they're own little world like Vekno when he was like human Well, he's like a goblin thing My goblin thing Does he have a long head?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't really remember he's just a free Okay, just messed up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's like all burned up from the upside down
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I'm not the biggest stranger, things of fans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a great show to fall asleep too, because I'm so slow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's very cool to hate stranger things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, have you picked up on that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: There for a while, it was like the coolest show to like, and now it's like the coolest show to hate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think both of those are kind of bad opinions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's just fine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think...
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[SPEAKER_02]: Stranger things when there's stuff going on in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's interesting, but I think it's there's too much time where there's like I said I fall asleep during every episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The episodes are way too long.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, but I fall asleep there, you know, sever and so I'm the same way sever and season one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really like sever and season two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't get through an episode without falling asleep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I forget.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You also don't like inception.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So is that falsely if during that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you just have bad opinions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe I mean, no, I mean, you're probably right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't disagree with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But also, I think I just can't handle it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The the long introspective thinking in between scenes like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was watching a severance scene and Zach, I'm not joking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I re-wound it four times because I kept falling asleep during like one single line that I was trying to hear because I was like, I know that this is important.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, and I would rewind it, and then I'd fall asleep, you know, I'd go 20 seconds back, and I'd fall asleep again during the 20 seconds, I'd like, oh my god, I can't believe I've missed it again, and I'm not joking it happened four times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that I feel like is a problem with the show at that point, that can't be me, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, short for him content has destroyed her brains.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I hate the light house.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The flower.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't either, but just he's like, he looks like a boat captain kind of.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just based off of the title and the fact that it's black and white and supposedly really long, I know that would be one of those introspective movies.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know a movie called The Lighthouse doesn't have any plot development.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just going to be like walking around in the dark.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure it's the lighthouse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just walking around in the dark.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm sure critically it's the best movie ever and if you actually watch it, it's
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[SPEAKER_02]: maybe not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of want to watch it now to find out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Should we talk about Spider-Man?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get into Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just making it one page in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But not even because I don't know who's doing this issue.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you want 13 or 14?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, but I think you are doing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm fine with you that works.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so ultimate comics Spider-Man issue 13 divided be fall written by Brian Michael Bendis, art by David Marquez, colored by Justin Ponsor, ledger by Vc's Corey Petit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And
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[SPEAKER_03]: just in case we forgot where we're at.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the same state of affairs as in Ultimates.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Washington is decimated.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The government is a mess.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Southwest is in chaos.
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[SPEAKER_03]: States are suceeding from the Union.
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[SPEAKER_03]: America is falling apart.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then it says Spider-Man commits murder.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Question mark.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And
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[SPEAKER_03]: This triggers the memory.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, when was the last time we even saw Miles Morales?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like a long time ago because Zach didn't pace the, the ultimate's ish episodes very well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Zach, you've done a great job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uncle Aaron died.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That does feel like it was a while ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was like probably this summer that we read that if I'm being honest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've dropped the ball a bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think it was that long ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I think what we're going to see in these issues, just from like a thousand foot perspective is the first arc that miles had to go through was like uncle Aaron, everything was about uncle Aaron to the point where we were naming every episode whatever uncle Aaron did and now that he is dead miles is going to have to find some new like
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[SPEAKER_03]: art that carries him, you know, from issue to issue that he's building towards.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think we're going to find out in this what that is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so we open on the Trisculian and Captain America is there and this scene I was trying to think about when it took place.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it can only take place right before they do like they're right on Dallas that we saw last episode because for a little bit Captain America did return to the Trisculian and he was like getting briefed on the situation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: right and then the right on Dallas was like a bunch of like insurrectionists or something yes business men took over the shield facilities and the nukes and they were going to nukes uh New York City and they were like ultimates you have 15 minutes to stop them and he's like a little bit of a lot yeah that's right that's badass Captain America
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then Tony's tumor child was writing the missile.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's Tony's tumor going to get up to this week?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing because it's a Spider-Man episode.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but Tony is in this panel, uh, he's in the, like, situation room with Captain America who's like, I don't understand is like, well, Cap, while you were gone, we got a new Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, just fury, you know about this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, yeah, fury's fine with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The kid's name's Miles Morales.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, how old is he?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He goes 13.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good kid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Captain America has the same objections about Miles being Spider-Man that he did about Peter being Spider-Man, except now he believes then even stronger because Peter was 16, whereas Miles is 13.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like he's way too young.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is very young.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I...
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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of like a 37th grader.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yeah, a 13 year old getting guns shot at him is not something that I think any reasonable at all in a real world would stand for even if they had superpowers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Once again, we've come down on the side of Captain America, the Captain America that everyone hates, the ultimate universe one, and Tony's like, yeah, it's a little young, but what are you going to do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we need a spider man around and he stepped up and he said, have we not learned our lesson, the Parker kid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Tony says they can't arrest someone for trying to be a good person, stop blaming yourself for a parker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Cap is like, he took a bullet for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then fell at the hands of a criminal because I didn't train him like I was tasked to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Tony changes the subject again back to miles and he's like, you haven't met him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Captain America says, maybe I should.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, I think you should.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and then it pops up on the screen, uh, this is kind of funny.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You see all of their screens are showing like buildings exploding and Nimrod centenoles killing people and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And at the biggest screen, the most pressing matter is Spider-Man Murderer Question Mark.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's good to see that shield has their priorities straightened out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I thought the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was I was thinking this is probably small potatoes right now, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the world and also if he killed someone, it was the prowler after the prowler like robbed a bank or something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that is way out of touch in this world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And she'll should be ahead of this story also.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They shouldn't be watching this on CNN.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They should have known as it was happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Captain America's like, I think I'll go talk to him now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We cut to miles at his home.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like in bed staring at the ceiling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's obviously bothered by something which we know is Aaron's death.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and his dad, Jefferson Davis.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Walks in and he's like, hey Miles, I have some bad news.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Your uncle is a dental name, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Accidental name.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't know that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what they say.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bendus was like, whoops.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's didn't realize.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't blame him as much as the editor because like your
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think his parents canonically are married, but Rio didn't take the last name Davis and Miles doesn't have the last name Davis, so it's very confusing to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why you're right, any of the Miles Davis, that's so stupid, Miles Davis, oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's because well that makes sense, why I just need the next Miles Davis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, there's got to be some story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure Bendus has had to explain why all of this is the way it is at some point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought like he can oopsie days he's I didn't name the son after the dad, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's I can just say that seems like I had to be thought out, but maybe not, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would imagine if there was anything, Ben is wished that he could take back from the creation of Miles Morales, it would be Jefferson Davis's name.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I bet he regretted that the second someone told him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe that it would go through without knowing, and I can't believe that after going through it would have more than one issue before they're told, and then they can just change it, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: They can't just change it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm remembering in the first issue of amazing Spider-Man in 1963, Peter Parker was called Peter Palmer, and then they just accident like that never happened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Kramer was Kessler and Seinfeld.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they could have just changed it anyways.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Jefferson tells Miles that, you know, Aaron is dead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we see a flashback of Aaron exploding.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Miles is like shocked.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He has to act like he's not known this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's hearing it for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Jefferson is like, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you liked him, but he was a bad guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was always getting into some kind of trouble.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was just a matter of time before he ended up back in jail or something like this happened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was kind of brilliant in his own way, but he was just so and then Miles finished his the thought and he says, mean, and we see Aaron's dying words saying, how about that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're just like me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Jefferson says, yeah, you know, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Miles is like, what happened to him?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, the police say Spider-Man killed him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then we get to be reminded that Jefferson Davis hates super heroes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, it's a weird world, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They let these idiots run around in costumes, no matter who gets hurt or killed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No one does a damn thing about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's his job in this universe?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he a police officer or is that all in the movie?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's in the movie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we know what his job is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we know what Rios job is either.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm fine with that because like for the longest time we didn't know what Aunt May was doing during the day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I still don't think we know what Uncle Ben's job was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's just kind of not part of the scope of the story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and so miles is like, can I be alone for a while?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he like wraps himself up in his blanket and his dad says, okay, he leaves and miles is still thinking about Aaron's last words.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're just like me, and he like cries himself to sleep, and it's really sad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, later we see Miles and Ganky walking to school, and we're kind of like reminded that the world is like on a state of emergency because there's just like a military Humvee and a bunch of soldiers standing on the sidewalk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they walk past it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what Washington, D.C. looks like now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what a lot of cities look like right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, they were like they had the national guard in Los Angeles and then just told them they can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They've been talking about doing it in Chicago, maybe New York.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just like a power trip.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't get into it because it's politics.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's political.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, it's just a, well, we don't do politics on this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: John, well, they were in Washington, D.C. when when we were there with the kids, they're picking up trash, making it look nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was like a beautification project or something, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what you said?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it was, that's why they were over there was to like, yeah, I'm using quotes, but I think that was like the reason that they were
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, wow, that's so nice of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the Trump administration ordered the national guard into like several major cities and they basically came in and they were like, we're taking over.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have jurisdiction over this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a, it's a national security thing and the legal system is like, I'm not sure if they can do that, but it's Trump.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he does what he wants and then he like battles it in court later.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And nominally like he always gets away with there, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why wouldn't you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he can't do whatever he wants.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Except for now in Los Angeles, because that did just get overturned.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's like they're there to keep the peace and like suppress any opposition and backup ice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And also, I think it's just meant to be like a display of force.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a thing called the horseshoe theory of violence, which is that in a fascist imperialist government, any amount of like force or violence or any methods that we employ,
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... externally like when we go and invade other countries or you know we do missions abroad obviously react with more impunity there you know the kind of things that we got got away with on the streets of Baghdad fifteen years ago are not the same things that we do to like police ourselves
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[SPEAKER_03]: domestic, but the horseshoe theory of violence says that eventually, I'm not sorry, not horseshoe theory, boomerang, boomerang theory of violence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The horseshoe shaped the same.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was I was following what you were saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's the idea of a boomerang returns to you is like the methods of violence that you use a broad will return to be enforced domestically.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's no good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A political advisor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, maybe someone can comment and and tell us and tell us that this is actually a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, tell me how was that would make me feel better about the situation of somebody told me that it's good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, you want a lot of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who says they were just picking up trash?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, that's why they were sent there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I didn't see any wrong doing myself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw a lot of sitting around doing nothing from these guys just getting paid to chat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good gig if you ask me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, a lot of people are calling Trump a Nazi.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, what do you think about that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's not new, dude.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They've been saying that for 10 years now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, I just wanted to get on to politics.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We just haven't talked in so long.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know you don't know who my mdani is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, he won the New York thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was telling me about him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK, did you, he's, he's, he's a socialist, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I mean, he's got those types of beliefs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Give him a couple months.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He'll be right in the Democratic Party.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just right in their pocket.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he might already be there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, I think he, I think he won and then like instantly sold out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what happens.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he had a White House meeting with Trump.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then like everyone's thinking this is going to be, you know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: A battle, you know, these guys are gonna hate each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, yes, I heard about this and they came out and shrubs like, ah, he's a good, yeah, and they're sucking each other off.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He loves him, dude.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and the funny part was, you know, some reporter asked him like, Mr. Romoudani, you've called President Trump a fascist before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you still think that after meeting with him?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, well, I've been, we've been clear about our positions and Trump cuts him off.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, it's all right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't mind.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can just say yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, they're all such, they, they talk a big game behind their keyboards or something, you know, yeah, we live in the weirdest simulation, dude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's so funny, Trump is so funny, you can't, you can't, you can't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's alright, I don't mind, you can just say yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's like the only one that gets it, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who cares what the who cares what the guy in my body what's his name?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not trying to talk on the mundani says like it doesn't matter stand there and call him a fascist stand there and call him tell them that you love him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: None of it matters anyways, you know, so at the end of the day you whatever Trump's only one that gets that
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[SPEAKER_02]: At the end of the day, he went to Trump's house and shook his hand and like I did you actually thought he was like a fascist leader who was like doing Nazi stuff then you shouldn't do that right yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Huh, I don't know, I don't know, politics, man, boy, I don't know, but at least the content from it is funny, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there you go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We, we called the Republicans fascists and we called the Democrats sell outs and they all stink, so we can get back to it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, we are all on the Titanic, and all we can do is just listen to the band play.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so Ganky and Miles are walking, and they see the Daily Bugle plastered everywhere that says Spider-Man, Murderer, Question Mark.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Miles says I can't believe this and then Ganky says what we are all thinking.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like Washington dc's gone the world's gone crazy the entire country is falling apart and this is the headline It's good to have an every man in these Stories.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he's being the Urga.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was trying to remember the name for that
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[SPEAKER_03]: and they keep walking to school and then they're like sitting at lunch and they're talking and he's like stop feeling guilty man it's not your fault that you fight your uncle and he blew up and uh judge is over next day i think that's the same day probably no no no i mean the neck it was the fight with uncle Aaron just yesterday oh i would assume so wow he should take a day
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[SPEAKER_03]: and tell his parents what I'm like I'm broken up about him dying definitely you're Uncle dies that's worth a day off school probably
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[SPEAKER_03]: Miles says he feels bad, but do you think I'm in your background?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, it's the stupid f**k ice maker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I'm going to get too close.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are we ready to get back into it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This just in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was about to say the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was I can't believe that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What are you saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say it because it's my alma mater, and I'm the biggest fan in history, breaking news, the first ever Indiana, who's here to win the Heisman trophy, the webbeds will get this two weeks late, a two weeks after the breaking news, but exactly two weeks ago from when you're listening to this, man does a one the Heisman, and now's the biggest who's
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay Zach now as soon as soon to be who's or how do you feel about this I feel great, you know I feel like I'm coming in at the right time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You really are I'm happy to take my talents to Bloomington as a walk on they will play with his brother next year There's never been a better time to hop on the Indiana who's your bandwagon
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[SPEAKER_03]: I will say, you know, there's baby pictures of me in IU gear, and before the file got corrupted, I had a pretty nice 30 year run on NCAA leading our members.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we talked about this last year when you was good for the first time ever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it feels good that it's like, my dynasty is just starting, like in real life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I was hurt to say that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just me too early.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this tangent, this has got to come out of nowhere when the listeners just, you just do a smash cut from into into this breaking news.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There will be no way to ruin some alarm bells.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Heismendosa.
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[SPEAKER_03]: yeah um okay so judge walks away and miles gets a phone call which i think we got him here because there's no way these kids are allowed to have their phones in school
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a boarding school, maybe, so could that be, they're at lunch, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, maybe he does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe we make the kids put their phones in a little phone box, but I could see a world especially in like a public school which this isn't where the kids would so get to have their phones during the day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The other day, Shyla had a fucking kid playing an Nintendo Switch in class, and then he had the nerve to tell her that it was somehow related to the essay he was writing about a Christmas Carol.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the stupidest thing is, as she took it away, she'd probably get an email from the parent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I weren't you letting my son play his Nintendo Switch in school.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, this was crazy actually.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She called the parent and she was like, hey, he had his switch and they were like, well, that's just impossible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, oh, great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, well, I'm holding it right now and the parent's like, what color is it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, who the fuck cares?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I want to be school.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, this kid was doing like oceans 11 level heists because the parents had taken it away and put it behind like a Fingerprint encrypted safe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's funny.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like how the fuck did he get it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, that's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and now I'm on the kid's side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A shy one wants to try to lock that in her desk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good luck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she's gonna come in after the end of the weekend and the desk is gonna be going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so the phone call says, is this Miles Morales and he's like, yeah, and they're like, do you know who this is?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, your name came up on my caller ID.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We never saw the caller ID, so we don't know who he's talking to and they're like, and we, yeah, just keep going, I don't know in my comment later, they're like, can we meet and he says, how did you get this number?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they said, we know the same people and they come up with a meet-up place and he writes it down on his hand and Ganky says, who was it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he just looks at his phone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we don't even know who he just talked to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I definitely think the implication is that it's Captain America.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we've been led to believe is going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He did just say, I think I'll do that now at the beginning of the issue.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Miles starts to walk to wherever he's going and some like national guard dude holding a assault rifle says where you had a kid is picking up trash.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's holding one of those things that they put like prison people in to pick up trash.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Miles goes, you work for a fascist dictator.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember your oaths.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, that reminds me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, this is like, there's like a little bit of sadness in this, in this, but you could have fooled me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The people that I work with, the people that I work with, the women that I work with a couple of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know they're like talking about the government and and it is there are a lot of like Burmese people that like refugees in the community and everything like that and unfortunately some of the policies are affecting them and if they like get long term stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, this is what made me internally laugh and why I just like cracked up because the two these two women are talking and they're it's like sad right they're like talking about sad stuff and one of them is just like
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[SPEAKER_02]: When are people just gonna stand up and say like this isn't right, you know, I mean, when are these other, these other senators that they work with?
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[SPEAKER_02]: When are they just gonna be like, no, this is not right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how to like, they're never gonna do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are you, are you crazy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are you living the West Wing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Falcon said, you need to do better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to be like, we're well past that, don't you think?
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[SPEAKER_02]: If people were going to go against what Trump had to say, I'm thinking it would have happened by now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're way, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: King Trump can do what he wants, I say.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to, yeah, I defer to all the sweet old ladies that are knitting scarves that say fuck Trump, you know, if they figured out the art of resistance, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, did we're never going to get through this story?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we will.
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[SPEAKER_03]: miles is like i'm just trying to go down that road and the national guard guys like turn around and go back where you belong do i need to detain you and call someone i don't really like his talk this is a bit of a fascist regime he does take like this road is closed to the public for safety reasons he i mean it almost sounds racist it's i was very close to gone get boy
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, definitely, uh, I thought the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, uh, would you be speaking to a little white boy like this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And anyways, Miles walks away and he's kind of like scouting at the guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think he got that sense too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, I can't believe I can't even walk down the street.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now I have to do something I don't want to do at all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he masks up, and he's like, I should never wear this mask again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not good enough to use his powers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think we're starting to see the seeds of miles comparing himself to Peter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, very directly and he's been doing that for a while, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He has, but the, I need Peter Parker's approval is going to amp up significantly now that Uncle Aaron has gone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and he's, he's doing a very spider-man thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's doing a very Peter Parker thing without realizing it where he's just like scurting along the rooftops and like thinking to himself about like how bad everything is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, well, we're all coming to an end and everyone thinks I'm a murderer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, it's my responsibility to be Spider-Man, and I can't even do that right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not supposed to be on the cover of every newspaper in the country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not supposed to be wondering whether I accidentally killed my uncle in a fight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Both of those things actually seem very Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't know, yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When we talked, like, oh, so long ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Very first episode.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, very first episode.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, what makes Spider-Man?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we had honed in on those.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Miles, you're all right, kid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't go too hard on yourself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, he's like on his way to whatever meeting any passes, a crime scene.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a, a jewelry store being robbed and the police are on the scene.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, oh, God, I don't have time for this right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This does feel like every single Spider-Man issue that like doesn't have a big overarching story is just like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Spider-Man's trying to go to the store or the dancer over to Mary James and he's got to put on his costume because he can't walk for some reason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's a crime happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just so happens, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is the tried-in-true formula for a Spider-Man story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and have we seen this guy?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know who this is?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like this guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Leaper at Rock the Leaper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure if we've seen him in this, but he's in the Captain America movies.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He has that one scene where you wouldn't know that it's him, because we can't have cool things in movies where characters get to be silly and where there's stupid purple costumes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's also in the newest Captain America movie, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe he was in Falcon on the Winter Soldier or something, but he's come back up, I think.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't sure, but I like comic Bat Rock so much more because he's just so goofy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This guy looks very goofy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the most French costume.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's wearing a mask, but you can tell he's French because he's got the little mustache and the way he talks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, ha, and he's holding a big sack of money over his shoulder while he leaps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, this is what it'd be like silver age.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, he he's definitely a silver age character.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can it's fun to like look at characters and just think when were they created and you like can pretty well hone in on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're like Venom.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have goofy they are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Venom got to be later like 80s 90s Bat Rock the Leaper.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that was definitely Jack Kirby.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Pacepot Pete.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Pacepot Pete, that's a 60's one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Stilled man, John, do you want to guess what era stilled man comes from?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's also stilled man, that's gotta be like the 60's boom, think it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Big on stilled, so it was the craziest thing anybody could imagine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh no, he just robbed his bank and he's walking away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's so tall.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, anyways, Miles comes down and, uh, Batroc has some goons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He hired some, some help to, to rob this jewelry store, and Miles conks their heads together and he's like, hey, guys, what's going on?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Batroc kicks him and they start fighting and talking.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Miles is making fun of him and he's like, oh my god, I can't believe the other spider man got to fight the Green Goblin and Doc Ock and I have to fight you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, don't offend Bat Rock the Leaper.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You are beneath me and he's like, actually, you're kind of beneath me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now you have to do a French.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and eventually they're fighting and whatever, and one of the Goons pulls out a gun and starts shooting at them, and Bat Rock is pissed about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, you fool, well, you could have hit me, stop shooting, he's like, oh, sorry boss.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and uh... bat rock is like give me a gun in the world once it's funny there spider-man's on bat trucks back and they're shooting and yet bat rock is like stop shooting at me and miles goes where do you get these guys and bat rocks us you wouldn't believe who i turned away
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did miss that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's a funny line.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like that the first time I read it, and then I'm just like kind of skimming now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I should go back to doing notes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: List goes right in where we better do in our best.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, he throws he throws miles into like a bakery and he goes into a wedding cake, which is kind of funny because then he comes out and he's like dripping and wedding cake.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, well, here's something that I read, and it's another funny line, but it could be funnier, I thought right away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Miles gets thrown into the wedding cake, and the woman says, I'm not paying for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that she should have said, I want to refund on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she already paid for, or I'm her term or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what's your refund policy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, see, that would be a funny line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK, I've got a funny joke for you here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I made this out last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is an original that I made up while I was cooking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK, I'm still workshopping it because I want to get it perfect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I could tell one of the kids at school who always comes in and says, I have a joke for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Time to throw it up on the internet before it's workshopped.
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[SPEAKER_03]: OK, what did, uh,
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[SPEAKER_02]: What did one leaf vegetable say to the other leaf vegetable that he had a crush on?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know John, what did he say?
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[SPEAKER_03]: A RUGLE!
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[SPEAKER_03]: Will a kid today understand I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how to make Children's cartoons horny anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't think they can say how we do this country You know You don't think that the kids know when the eyeballs pop out of the head, and you know Yeah, you don't think they don't think the eyeballs pop out of the head anymore I think the jaw hits the ground.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think the tongue rolls out like a red carpet
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I think we've lost the art form of 40 cartoons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, uh, and we're worse, we're worse country for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here's my favorite.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Crossroads anime has not lost it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's my favorite joke that this person has come in and said to me, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Zach, this is really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, did you know that
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[SPEAKER_03]: Real bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I didn't know they had it to begin with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, like like all animals can speak, you know, like dogs bark like, you know, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like crow's have lost her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know isn't that crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, scientists are looking for the cause.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a pretty good one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll take us back into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to edit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Spider-Man is covered in wedding cake and Bat-Rot goes up to his guy who's like getting the car He's like give me your gun and he's like I thought you didn't use guns and he's like I do find them on sports And then like but I've I've blends this evening This is what being an absolute idiot and he points the gun at his Goon who was shooting at him is a bad guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and he kicks him out of the car and he's like
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[SPEAKER_03]: or maybe he hasn't kicked him out of the car.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe no, he's about to shoot him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, miles like gets the car and it makes them it throws him off.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He lifts the car and he throws it in the gun goes sliding with this change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This Gune's life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, miles Spider-Man just saved his life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was about to get murdered and cold blood by a villain.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think he'll change his ways?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would like to think yes, and also I'd like to think this guy is going to get power somehow, and then that's his hero origin story was he was a gun who almost might have powers right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He might.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's speculate on that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be for how many minutes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, so the cops are like pointing their guns at Spider-Man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, don't move hands on your head.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Take off that mask And he's like, wait, but I'm the one who just stopped them and they're like shut your mouth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have the right to remain silent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're one-it-for-murder And uh, he goes invisible and these cops Man, trigger discipline Anyways, he starts blasting Miles goes invisible and they just start blasting randomly
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[SPEAKER_03]: we see miles jumping away while invisible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And somehow the cops are like, I don't know if they're hearing him or seeing his shadow move or something, but maybe they could probably hear, they're like shooting up into the air and they're like hitting the street lights and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're just
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[SPEAKER_03]: which we know in New York City, you know, you can just fire a gun any which way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're not gonna hit any people, dude.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and we see him jumping away on the rooftops and Captain America is watching him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which the lens more like inferring to the point that it's probably Captain America that they made the phone call.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's who he's going to meet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like tracking him the whole way there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Miles goes to an abandoned warehouse, and I'm not sure I think I'd have to look at the previous issues, but I think the implication is this is like the same warehouse that Peter and Mary Jane would always meet up at.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I think this was like their spot where she would, like, leth-lo.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, probably is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he walks in and there, someone says, what took you so long?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, sorry, there was things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they were like, crime and progress.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, yeah, how do you know?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they said, I've been around.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They say, why do you smell like frosting?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, well, that's harder to explain.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and then the voice starts talking to another voice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's already in there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we know it's two people that he's meeting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not just Captain America.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we see it's not Captain America at all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's Aunt May and Gwen Stacy standing there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a good little, what's it called when
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and she says, my name is May Parker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was Peter Parker's aunt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I helped raise him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is Gwen Stacy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Miles says, we've actually met, and she's like, we have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, I was at the funeral.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, a lot of people were, oh, wait, we talked.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You asked me why he did it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Aunt May says, why do you do it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why are you Spider-Man?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He says, it felt like after Peter died, it felt like I should.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and may says I assume that stuff in the news value is nonsense that used to say the same things about Peter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In fact I have something of Peter's I think you should have and she's holding a little box in her hand and then someone says not so fast Mrs. Parker and Captain America steps out from the shadows and he says I don't think this young man will be Spider-Man anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Captain America is a real jerk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Interrupting this nice moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Captain America is a real jerk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's, let's linger on that thought for a minute.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even if, even if he's not going to be Spider-Man, he could still let Aunt May give this momento to Miles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't know that it's so much as a momento as enabling him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we'll see what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: she could still be proud of him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even, I'm just saying, you know, I don't think it's Captain America's business to stop this transaction from going down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, but he just had to make a dramatic entrance and let them know he disapproves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then I don't know if you find this interesting, John, I do this is technically still in this issue.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's in the back pages.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They do a writer Q&A, and they're talking to Brian Michael Bendis, Sam Humphreys, and Brian Wood.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the Spider-Man writer, the ultimate writer, and the X-Men writer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and they ask them what's the first Marvel comic you saw and why does it stick in your mind?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who are you musically most influenced by?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if you could direct any Marvel superhero movie, what would it be?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I found Bendis' answer is pretty interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said a Jack Kirby biopic, which I thought about and I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, yeah, I would watch that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not what anyone would probably think.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Most people would say, like, this is, oh, my favorite arc of the comics.
01:00:01.725 --> 01:00:03.367
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd make you out of that.
01:00:04.348 --> 01:00:14.543
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a little surprised that, like, Stanley hasn't gotten a biopic yet because surely people would go see that.
01:00:14.943 --> 01:00:18.388
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's such a comic book, Dork Nowadays.
01:00:18.368 --> 01:00:41.305
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the hard thing about that though would be it would inevitably show like the general public that Stanley wasn't really the the soul man running things that he always like kind of like it could be like a marvel biopic, you know, I mean it could be that I'm so you know how they did like the Tetris game
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like they could follow Stan and Jack and yeah, like that would be an interesting movie for how Marvel like got going and everything I think it would absolutely I do think one that just focused on Jack Kirby would also be pretty good because Yeah, like his life in general.
01:01:00.787 --> 01:01:07.798
[SPEAKER_02]: He was he was like a was he a protagonist and Stanley maybe wouldn't make his good of a protagonist
01:01:07.913 --> 01:01:18.077
[SPEAKER_03]: No, not even necessarily that, but like in World War II, Jack Kirby was like the guy who would do recon missions and go ahead of everyone else into enemy territory.
01:01:18.518 --> 01:01:23.770
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was like one of the first people to like liberate one or find one of the death camps.
01:01:23.790 --> 01:01:25.855
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was Jewish also.
01:01:25.835 --> 01:01:27.218
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like that was cool.
01:01:27.538 --> 01:01:44.310
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a story of like someone writing him a death friend or something out of when he worked at Marvel or they called him and they're like we're going to kick your ass And he's like I'll be down in five minutes and he went down there and they left So he was just a bad ass.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's great.
01:01:45.251 --> 01:01:45.632
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, oh, and then also it says, who were you musically most influenced by, and I thought that was pretty interesting because I'm interested in what music bendists listens to because I know he likes rancid and he put no effects in in one of the early Spider-Man issues.
01:02:05.981 --> 01:02:12.008
[SPEAKER_03]: He says, Beastie Boys, Nick Cave, Regina Spectre and the distillers, and I respect that list.
01:02:12.648 --> 01:02:13.189
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
01:02:14.485 --> 01:02:17.067
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I'm guessing you know all those bands.
01:02:17.147 --> 01:02:20.290
[SPEAKER_02]: I've only heard of the BC boys out of those guys, but they're pretty good.
01:02:20.971 --> 01:02:21.191
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:02:22.452 --> 01:02:26.796
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then Sam home free says he's been listening to watch the throne.
01:02:26.896 --> 01:02:29.599
[SPEAKER_03]: And he says ultimate cap and ultimate iron man.
01:02:29.619 --> 01:02:32.421
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, or like, I'm sorry.
01:02:32.461 --> 01:02:37.266
[SPEAKER_03]: He says Jay Z and Kanye West are like the ultimate cap and ultimate iron man of hip hop.
01:02:37.426 --> 01:02:39.968
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, huh, that's an interesting comparison.
01:02:40.889 --> 01:02:42.511
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What do we think about this issue?
01:02:44.303 --> 01:02:53.217
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, this was probably just a pretty good little Spider-Man issue, you know.
01:02:54.631 --> 01:03:05.126
[SPEAKER_02]: He did the classic Spider-Man story line of just having to get somewhere, you know, getting side-tracked by a crime and fighting the villain other week.
01:03:06.068 --> 01:03:08.130
[SPEAKER_02]: So pretty standard.
01:03:08.311 --> 01:03:12.357
[SPEAKER_02]: We got some ultimates, Aunt May and Gwen came back.
01:03:13.258 --> 01:03:15.441
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll give us seven and a half out of ten.
01:03:16.602 --> 01:03:23.760
[SPEAKER_03]: I will also give it a seven and a half to me a seven is like like average right a seven is fine.
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:30.837
[SPEAKER_02]: This is probably what it would have been without the the Aunt May and Gwen and Captain America and Iron Man appearance.
01:03:30.857 --> 01:03:32.822
[SPEAKER_02]: You know those give it a little bit extra.
01:03:33.325 --> 01:03:34.648
[SPEAKER_03]: definitely they do.
01:03:34.708 --> 01:03:49.336
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what's progressing his overall plot, you know, fighting Bat Rock is not necessary for miles, but meeting Captain America and Aunt May is, but man, I just had fun with the Bat Rock fight.
01:03:49.516 --> 01:03:50.058
[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely.
01:03:50.478 --> 01:03:50.959
[SPEAKER_03]: I liked it.
01:03:50.979 --> 01:03:55.468
[SPEAKER_03]: That was what makes it a seven hour half for me instead of a seven.
01:03:55.448 --> 01:03:59.115
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's like we love the dumb fun villains.
01:03:59.195 --> 01:04:03.463
[SPEAKER_03]: We love the twice as sweet as money earned guys or shocker.
01:04:03.523 --> 01:04:06.648
[SPEAKER_03]: He's just one of those ones that's fun to beat up.
01:04:09.253 --> 01:04:10.575
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, next issue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
01:04:12.860 --> 01:04:15.364
[SPEAKER_02]: Spider-Man issue 14.
01:04:16.762 --> 01:04:19.185
[SPEAKER_02]: Washington is still decimated.
01:04:19.365 --> 01:04:20.747
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how this one opens.
01:04:20.787 --> 01:04:22.549
[SPEAKER_02]: It's still in the divided we fall.
01:04:22.569 --> 01:04:29.178
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is written by Brian Michael Bendis, art by David Marquez, colored by Justin Pomsord, lettered by UC's Corey Petit.
01:04:32.002 --> 01:04:40.913
[SPEAKER_02]: And once again, the story opens with that like shield situation map that tells us what's going on in all of these different places.
01:04:42.614 --> 01:04:46.984
[SPEAKER_02]: But we're not really focused on them in the spider-man stories.
01:04:47.445 --> 01:04:50.592
[SPEAKER_02]: Those feel like they come into play more when we get into the ultimate.
01:04:51.354 --> 01:04:55.523
[SPEAKER_02]: This is still a smaller scale story.
01:04:55.924 --> 01:04:57.568
[SPEAKER_02]: We're very straight level here.
01:04:57.835 --> 01:04:58.916
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
01:04:58.936 --> 01:05:13.996
[SPEAKER_02]: And this one opens with exactly what I said, and when the previous one ended, which is Captain America, you are a jerk, which is what Gwen is screaming at him when he comes in and tries to stop this hand off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it probably took a lot of thought.
01:05:18.001 --> 01:05:22.526
[SPEAKER_02]: an emotion from Aunt May and Gwen to make this decision.
01:05:22.546 --> 01:05:31.616
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Captain America just wanders in having zero, you know, forethought and just like interrupts it all.
01:05:32.857 --> 01:05:33.858
[SPEAKER_02]: You're out of line.
01:05:33.898 --> 01:05:34.759
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:05:35.720 --> 01:05:45.831
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so this opening panel is a reference to probably the most famous kitty pride panel
01:05:47.296 --> 01:05:57.212
[SPEAKER_03]: the most famous Kitty Pride panel might be her like phasing her hand through her wedding ring and deciding like that she's going to leave Colossus at the altar.
01:05:58.053 --> 01:06:04.524
[SPEAKER_03]: But for probably 40 years, it was her whipping around and pointing at the reader.
01:06:04.964 --> 01:06:10.333
[SPEAKER_03]: And in the biggest text box ever, it says Professor Xavier is a jerk.
01:06:10.313 --> 01:06:14.640
[SPEAKER_03]: and they would like reference that all the time and keep bringing it back up.
01:06:14.660 --> 01:06:18.246
[SPEAKER_03]: And so this is fun that they're getting Gwen to do it.
01:06:18.947 --> 01:06:19.248
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
01:06:19.468 --> 01:06:20.670
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very similar.
01:06:20.770 --> 01:06:21.632
[SPEAKER_02]: I just looked it up.
01:06:23.295 --> 01:06:24.677
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe that other one is false.
01:06:24.697 --> 01:06:25.639
[SPEAKER_02]: Good for sure.
01:06:26.680 --> 01:06:27.141
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:06:28.808 --> 01:06:44.016
[SPEAKER_02]: and what and am a kind of sculpture she's like Gwen Stacy and Gwen says well he is you know you can't just come in here and and say you can't be spider-man and captain america's like actually i can't i'm captain america
01:06:45.616 --> 01:06:50.724
[SPEAKER_02]: And Miles says, wait a second, how do you even find us down here and Captain America starts to tell them?
01:06:50.764 --> 01:06:54.911
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, well, this is one of the many reasons you shouldn't be Spider-Man.
01:06:56.033 --> 01:06:57.616
[SPEAKER_02]: I was able to easily track you.
01:06:57.776 --> 01:06:59.318
[SPEAKER_02]: I intercepted your phone call.
01:07:02.203 --> 01:07:08.333
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing about these shield people are it's like they don't understand the street level heroes.
01:07:10.507 --> 01:07:11.028
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
01:07:11.048 --> 01:07:13.452
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're not trying to fight a war.
01:07:14.513 --> 01:07:18.279
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just like saving the day from a bank robber.
01:07:19.341 --> 01:07:32.823
[SPEAKER_02]: So yes, it's dangerous, but it's not the same thing as like being sent on missions with shield, you know, they're just a little out of touch, I think.
01:07:34.606 --> 01:07:34.946
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:07:35.667 --> 01:07:35.968
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:07:36.369 --> 01:07:37.290
[SPEAKER_02]: Well said.
01:07:38.030 --> 01:07:41.275
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it doesn't matter if Spider-Man's whereabouts.
01:07:41.315 --> 01:07:46.722
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going, he's just going down the street and he sees a fire and he jumps in and saves somebody.
01:07:46.922 --> 01:07:47.423
[SPEAKER_02]: You know?
01:07:47.724 --> 01:07:51.108
[SPEAKER_02]: Who cares if his phone calls is intercepted?
01:07:51.529 --> 01:08:00.722
[SPEAKER_03]: Bat Rock, the Leaper is not going to go to the same lengths that Captain America is to track him down for like revenge or like that Captain America's villains are.
01:08:00.762 --> 01:08:03.025
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:08:04.338 --> 01:08:05.160
[SPEAKER_02]: hair cleaner.
01:08:06.404 --> 01:08:09.072
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:08:09.112 --> 01:08:12.984
[SPEAKER_02]: And Captain America is like, you're too young.
01:08:13.004 --> 01:08:14.267
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saving your life.
01:08:14.328 --> 01:08:16.153
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't see it at the moment.
01:08:17.652 --> 01:08:24.561
[SPEAKER_02]: And Captain America's like in the memory of Peter Parker, you know, I'm not going to let you and then he gets cut off.
01:08:25.322 --> 01:08:34.254
[SPEAKER_02]: I also think not to like delve too deep into Captain America's psyche, but he's he just probably should.
01:08:34.274 --> 01:08:40.302
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate him about to say this, but he probably needs to go see see if therapists or something because
01:08:40.282 --> 01:08:49.414
[SPEAKER_02]: His issues seem more about the way he's seeing the situation, not the actual situation that's occurred.
01:08:49.454 --> 01:08:55.281
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's trying to use like Peter's name and memory to prove a point.
01:08:55.682 --> 01:09:07.116
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's unfortunately standing with people who are way more invested in that memory, and what would Peter do and everything like he's just
01:09:08.092 --> 01:09:10.616
[SPEAKER_02]: He's out of touch in this moment.
01:09:11.637 --> 01:09:16.564
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I feel like he's projecting because of his own guilt.
01:09:16.865 --> 01:09:23.094
[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to say, I'm doing this for Peter Parker and everything, but actually he's just doing it for himself.
01:09:23.915 --> 01:09:27.400
[SPEAKER_03]: And he looks uncharacteristically like,
01:09:27.380 --> 01:09:47.565
[SPEAKER_02]: Ugly in these scenes and like I was like in the last issue when he came in I was like I don't like the way he looks in this there's like a dark shadow over his face and he's like Scallowing and looking down on miles he looks like home lander here Mm-hmm Wow and
01:09:48.997 --> 01:10:10.110
[SPEAKER_02]: Then out of nowhere, someone says, you know, when he says in memory of Peter Parker he's interrupted and somebody says, you're you're not somebody off screen says That's what this is all about isn't that you're not talking to him.
01:10:10.150 --> 01:10:12.253
[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking to Peter like,
01:10:12.942 --> 01:10:17.912
[SPEAKER_02]: Captain America wishes he had said this stuff to Peter and it's Mary Jane.
01:10:17.932 --> 01:10:21.900
[SPEAKER_02]: She comes out from the shadows and she followed them or she didn't follow them.
01:10:21.940 --> 01:10:31.980
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry Gwen called her and told her that they were showing up there So this is the only thing that could poke a hole in the this is the same warehouse
01:10:32.787 --> 01:10:38.826
[SPEAKER_02]: because the Gwen and Aunt may know about this warehouse or was this just a Peter and MJ place.
01:10:39.167 --> 01:10:40.772
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was a Peter and MJ place.
01:10:40.913 --> 01:10:44.805
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess there's just a lot of closed warehouse of the warehouses around there.
01:10:46.878 --> 01:10:48.942
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and Gwen is, uh, M.A.
01:10:48.962 --> 01:10:55.576
[SPEAKER_02]: is like, you really should have, you got to talk to me about this Gwen, and And Gwen's like, we were going to talk to Spider-Man.
01:10:55.636 --> 01:10:59.985
[SPEAKER_02]: I figured, you know, she should come and I thought it was just going to be a Hey, how you do it.
01:11:00.025 --> 01:11:04.735
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know Captain America was going to show up and start scolding everybody.
01:11:04.850 --> 01:11:07.975
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, she doesn't call Latin America.
01:11:08.015 --> 01:11:11.782
[SPEAKER_03]: She says the eagle from the muppets was going to show up and fart on us.
01:11:13.024 --> 01:11:15.248
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a funny line.
01:11:15.268 --> 01:11:17.852
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Miles does interrupt her right away.
01:11:17.913 --> 01:11:19.615
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, hey, this is Captain America.
01:11:19.635 --> 01:11:20.737
[SPEAKER_02]: Show some respect.
01:11:21.198 --> 01:11:21.659
[SPEAKER_02]: That's good.
01:11:21.739 --> 01:11:23.803
[SPEAKER_02]: Miles is earning his stripes with Captain America.
01:11:23.883 --> 01:11:26.908
[SPEAKER_02]: All those types of people care about her just getting respect.
01:11:28.154 --> 01:11:30.698
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm anti-capped in America, this episode.
01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:38.189
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't not see him as San Eagle after she said that.
01:11:39.351 --> 01:11:43.377
[SPEAKER_02]: And Gwen is like, oh, yeah, should I show him some respect?
01:11:43.437 --> 01:11:46.702
[SPEAKER_02]: Because last time we saw him, he said Peter's death was his fault.
01:11:46.882 --> 01:11:48.365
[SPEAKER_02]: And guess what, I believe him.
01:11:48.425 --> 01:11:49.006
[SPEAKER_02]: You know why?
01:11:49.126 --> 01:11:50.668
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he's Captain America.
01:11:52.842 --> 01:11:58.443
[SPEAKER_02]: it's a good line and we can see from Captain America's face he takes that to heart.
01:12:01.394 --> 01:12:03.662
[SPEAKER_02]: She's kind of using her own
01:12:04.925 --> 01:12:06.828
[SPEAKER_02]: respect for him against him.
01:12:06.868 --> 01:12:08.370
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
01:12:08.530 --> 01:12:18.664
[SPEAKER_03]: And then she and Aunt May hit him with the most leathily weaponized, powder faces a human history.
01:12:18.684 --> 01:12:24.773
[SPEAKER_03]: A teenage girl and an old woman looking at him sad over something that was his fault.
01:12:25.354 --> 01:12:26.135
[SPEAKER_03]: You just melt.
01:12:26.976 --> 01:12:29.700
[SPEAKER_03]: He's crumbling on the inside.
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:32.204
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not trying to deal with threats like this.
01:12:32.244 --> 01:12:33.326
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
01:12:33.386 --> 01:12:54.017
[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to punch And Captain America looks down and his face is all shattered and he says I just want us to all learn from our mistakes Oh poor guy He's doing his best out there just like the rest of us
01:12:55.803 --> 01:13:23.937
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... mj introduces herself to miles and she says hey i'm married jay and he says i read i read your blog so he kind of knows who she is already and now we're having a bit more of a conversation with captain america versus him just like coming in and telling us what's going on and he says kid i know your hearts in the right place but not now not with the world the way it is when you're older
01:13:23.917 --> 01:13:35.293
[SPEAKER_02]: And Miles kind of shouts back in him he says you think I killed the prowler and Captain America says you mean you're uncle from what I can tell I don't know what happened there and neither do you that's my point
01:13:37.366 --> 01:14:01.787
[SPEAKER_02]: and then he gets a call and he's interrupted and you know he does that thing where he puts his hand to his ear and he's like oh wait hold on this is Rogers he's like the Lincoln tunnel oh my gosh i'll be there just a second and then he speeds up he's like you're not if you're spider-man again i'll throw you in jail kid okay maybe the original national guard guy wasn't being racist
01:14:03.522 --> 01:14:16.184
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if we're going to give him flack for saying, I'm going to detain you kid, then shouldn't we also give Captain America flack for being like, I'm going to throw you in jail.
01:14:16.926 --> 01:14:24.940
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not willing to say Captain that there's racial stuff going on behind this comment for Captain America.
01:14:25.072 --> 01:14:26.194
[SPEAKER_03]: do totally different.
01:14:26.234 --> 01:14:32.784
[SPEAKER_03]: He's telling a 13 year old don't go back out there without training and trying to be Spider-Man for your own good.
01:14:32.824 --> 01:14:33.566
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm keeping you safe.
01:14:33.866 --> 01:14:37.732
[SPEAKER_03]: The other guy was like, you're not walking down this street.
01:14:37.752 --> 01:14:40.937
[SPEAKER_02]: But you dare to go back or you came from kid.
01:14:41.879 --> 01:14:43.842
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, totally different.
01:14:44.463 --> 01:14:46.366
[SPEAKER_03]: That guy didn't even know he's Spider-Man.
01:14:46.646 --> 01:14:48.710
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I had nothing to do with it.
01:14:49.190 --> 01:14:50.252
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I guess that's true.
01:14:51.920 --> 01:15:20.577
[SPEAKER_02]: and captain america speeds off on his bike which is just always a good captain america look him on his hog is a is classic cap move god captain captain america's hog that's america's hog right captain captain's hog like star trackers captives there's something there
01:15:22.227 --> 01:15:24.411
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so now Captain America is not even there.
01:15:24.591 --> 01:15:28.257
[SPEAKER_02]: So, so there like, Gwen's like, what a complete jerk.
01:15:28.317 --> 01:15:29.719
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you going to do?
01:15:29.819 --> 01:15:33.946
[SPEAKER_02]: And Miles, he's having an argument with himself.
01:15:34.006 --> 01:15:36.230
[SPEAKER_02]: He's he's thinking, well, I don't know.
01:15:36.310 --> 01:15:38.494
[SPEAKER_02]: I keep trying to think what would Peter do.
01:15:38.574 --> 01:15:41.078
[SPEAKER_02]: And now I'm not really sure.
01:15:41.098 --> 01:15:44.944
[SPEAKER_02]: And Captain America says I'm not allowed to do this.
01:15:46.072 --> 01:16:03.827
[SPEAKER_02]: and it may as well you could go help him prove him wrong and he's miles is like how could i i'll never catch up to him like i i don't know where he is or you know he left and she says well maybe this will help you catch him and she pulls out the box
01:16:04.617 --> 01:16:33.088
[SPEAKER_02]: Zach I was starting to crumble myself as I was reading this as soon as she as soon as she pulls the box back out I'm like oh my gosh, they're Peter's web shooters and She says I mean if you're gonna be spider-man and you want to do what Peter would do and he opens the box and it is Peter's web shooters And she says I thought long and hard about this and I thought he would want you to have them and Glenn says go get him tiger oh
01:16:34.368 --> 01:16:35.670
[SPEAKER_02]: shouldn't MJ say that.
01:16:38.733 --> 01:16:39.074
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't.
01:16:39.754 --> 01:16:43.699
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she should have, but also, but I'm able to say that to Peter.
01:16:43.759 --> 01:16:44.720
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:16:45.381 --> 01:16:54.472
[SPEAKER_03]: And it may cannot help herself, but take in more of these likes, these superhero kids and like send them off on missions.
01:16:55.353 --> 01:16:58.416
[SPEAKER_02]: She she even kind of has a look about her.
01:16:58.456 --> 01:17:04.003
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like she is like recruiting them into
01:17:03.983 --> 01:17:06.408
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, just a new Nick Fury.
01:17:07.872 --> 01:17:09.034
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm putting together a team.
01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:15.428
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like this is where I mean it I'm not gonna
01:17:16.201 --> 01:17:40.183
[SPEAKER_03]: below anyone's mind at all by saying the spiderverse movies might have been based off of the alternate universe you guys but like specifically that version of anti-may that like has a fucking superhero lab in her she shed is like oh I know what to do in here that's that's based on this well this is this is definitely the closest
01:17:40.163 --> 01:17:44.172
[SPEAKER_02]: to that characterization I've ever seen from Aunt May, you know.
01:17:44.192 --> 01:17:52.512
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember the first time I watched that movie, I was like, Aunt May is the one in charge here, are you serious, you know?
01:17:53.073 --> 01:17:55.098
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like Charlie and all these kids are her angels.
01:17:55.318 --> 01:17:55.759
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:17:57.275 --> 01:18:00.919
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, oh, I'm I'm looking forward to that to that next movie.
01:18:01.139 --> 01:18:05.864
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's been like seven years since it came out and it keeps getting delayed Zach.
01:18:05.904 --> 01:18:22.422
[SPEAKER_02]: We did stranger things season three came out six years ago And we are starting season five now that is absurd There's something wrong with that
01:18:22.688 --> 01:18:27.617
[SPEAKER_02]: When is someone going to stand up and just say enough is enough around here?
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:30.963
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, thank God.
01:18:31.023 --> 01:18:34.429
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no, you know, season six on the way.
01:18:34.489 --> 01:18:35.290
[SPEAKER_03]: This was like it.
01:18:36.653 --> 01:18:39.919
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I mean, dude, we'd be dead.
01:18:39.959 --> 01:18:41.802
[SPEAKER_03]: We would have to see that.
01:18:42.142 --> 01:18:43.886
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or pee by that time.
01:18:44.487 --> 01:18:47.011
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:18:47.151 --> 01:18:47.532
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:18:48.659 --> 01:18:54.068
[SPEAKER_02]: Aunt May gives him give some of the web shooters it's a very cute Gwen says go get him tiger.
01:18:54.088 --> 01:19:06.769
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't lie a tier shed for my eye during this And myel says, but maybe Captain America's right and Gwen says he's not an MJ says, but you are awfully young
01:19:08.453 --> 01:19:10.035
[SPEAKER_02]: What who's side is she on?
01:19:12.199 --> 01:19:13.641
[SPEAKER_03]: She's she's a reporter John.
01:19:13.721 --> 01:19:14.843
[SPEAKER_03]: She's got to play Dental to have it.
01:19:14.863 --> 01:19:16.726
[SPEAKER_02]: She's playing that she's playing both sides.
01:19:16.826 --> 01:19:32.149
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, trying to stay impartial And it may says don't do what we say don't do what he says don't do what you think Peter would say Don't do what Peter would do do what Miles Morales would do
01:19:33.749 --> 01:19:36.602
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good, it's a good little line from her, I think.
01:19:37.144 --> 01:19:40.620
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, it's sweet that he has her blessing.
01:19:42.068 --> 01:19:52.021
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, okay, so the so the scene changes the page turns miles of standing at the top of a building and he's thinking to himself, you know, it's been a roller coaster of a day.
01:19:52.081 --> 01:20:04.617
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got the web shooters on and he sprays his little web out and the webbing for the first time ever makes the word the whip as it.
01:20:04.597 --> 01:20:14.826
[SPEAKER_02]: as it like ropes out and I got a good deal of enjoyment out of this panel and seeing it like that because I actually
01:20:15.987 --> 01:20:37.275
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I was just like looking at the pictures and I noticed it's like the whip and and you know, we read it and then after he's like flying around a little bit, he's like thinking to himself about how he should have flipped and I'm like, oh, you know, that is like that's the spider man web word right like isn't that I don't want to be on yeah.
01:20:37.295 --> 01:20:37.676
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:20:38.677 --> 01:20:44.104
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, I wonder if the first time he did it if it said that.
01:20:44.253 --> 01:20:58.853
[SPEAKER_02]: And not only does it say the whip, but it has it written out in the web, so it's almost like, I don't know, it just feels like a good like first time, you know, it's a very cool panel, it's like when people
01:21:00.082 --> 01:21:03.847
[SPEAKER_02]: Show up in Doctor Who for the first time and they see the TARDIS.
01:21:03.887 --> 01:21:06.971
[SPEAKER_02]: You just know you're going to get the like it's bigger on the inside.
01:21:07.091 --> 01:21:08.233
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what this like right.
01:21:08.273 --> 01:21:11.898
[SPEAKER_02]: He shoots the web and it says the width and it's like, oh, okay.
01:21:11.918 --> 01:21:12.258
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
01:21:12.879 --> 01:21:13.620
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're there.
01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:21.070
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the next panel is also a pretty good width one too because you can see he's like throwing the web way out in the distance.
01:21:21.270 --> 01:21:23.213
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's not spelled out with the web.
01:21:23.293 --> 01:21:24.474
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like the sound.
01:21:25.075 --> 01:21:25.836
[SPEAKER_03]: War.
01:21:25.816 --> 01:21:48.229
[SPEAKER_02]: but another great one that like it's that feeling of like oh wow first time using web shooters how pretty cool right yep um and he you know he he does a thing where he's like slamming into walls of like falling onto cafe tables where people are eating like all the standard stuff that you have to see when spider-man's learning how to use his webs
01:21:48.209 --> 01:21:54.199
[SPEAKER_02]: And he eventually gets to the Lincoln Tunnel, and he sees a huge explosion happening at the Lincoln Tunnel.
01:21:54.700 --> 01:22:01.892
[SPEAKER_02]: And the Rhino, Paul Giamati himself, is running through in his big Rhino suit.
01:22:03.274 --> 01:22:06.058
[SPEAKER_02]: And Captain America's down.
01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:08.182
[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting thrown around.
01:22:08.262 --> 01:22:11.888
[SPEAKER_02]: Luckily, Miles...
01:22:11.868 --> 01:22:31.480
[SPEAKER_02]: shows up and you know he jumps on the rhinos back I know I'm like really flying through this fight but it's because it's just a bunch of you know he's fighting the rhino he's getting thrown around eventually he manages to get on top of his back and uses venom blasting to take out the rhinos suit
01:22:33.232 --> 01:22:50.717
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very Coolie drawn action Well, then free to explain it No, I was going to say paradoxically those are like the hardest things for us to describe Over the over the podcast so As Stanley would say you have to see it to believe it folks
01:22:52.503 --> 01:22:54.886
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, yeah, I mean, the rhino's charging.
01:22:54.946 --> 01:23:01.756
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like two throwing people with his head and Captain America's jumping on his back and spider-man's jumping on his back.
01:23:01.776 --> 01:23:03.338
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's a lot going on.
01:23:03.398 --> 01:23:05.201
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good little fight.
01:23:06.322 --> 01:23:07.364
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the artist on this?
01:23:07.444 --> 01:23:08.385
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it David Marquez?
01:23:08.726 --> 01:23:09.326
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes it is.
01:23:10.648 --> 01:23:11.650
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was talking with it.
01:23:11.710 --> 01:23:12.671
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe so.
01:23:13.012 --> 01:23:13.292
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:23:14.353 --> 01:23:15.395
[SPEAKER_03]: Good work, David Marquez.
01:23:15.415 --> 01:23:17.077
[SPEAKER_03]: This whole issue's been pretty peak.
01:23:17.698 --> 01:23:20.502
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:23:22.355 --> 01:23:37.058
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Spider-Man does manage to shut down, or he gets on top, he's about to do his venom blast, and he kind of remembers the venom blast with Uncle Aaron before he does it.
01:23:38.240 --> 01:23:48.936
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, uh, Captain, you might want to, you know, and before he can finish this thought, the Rhino does it, you know, it blows up from the venom blast, and both Spider-Man and Captain America get thrown away.
01:23:50.333 --> 01:23:51.495
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd say they're pretty lucky.
01:23:51.515 --> 01:23:52.717
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not more hurt.
01:23:52.737 --> 01:23:54.199
[SPEAKER_02]: And is the rhino dead now?
01:23:54.259 --> 01:23:56.382
[SPEAKER_02]: Also that looked like a big explosion.
01:23:56.783 --> 01:23:57.724
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's unclear.
01:23:58.045 --> 01:24:00.709
[SPEAKER_03]: Clearly, probably not.
01:24:00.729 --> 01:24:03.233
[SPEAKER_03]: People come and go from death in this universe.
01:24:03.253 --> 01:24:10.264
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we saw Aunt May put like six bullets into Electro and then he was in the next arc.
01:24:10.284 --> 01:24:13.168
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, they probably should.
01:24:13.148 --> 01:24:33.452
[SPEAKER_02]: Get her handle on this venom blast power and if it creates a big explosion and how big of a explosion it makes when it reacts with like electricity and The power scaling I can't really judge at the moment, you know, and I'm not sure miles can either because he was like
01:24:34.597 --> 01:24:56.993
[SPEAKER_02]: Thinking that it, this happened when he killed his uncle Aaron, but then he still was, it was still like his go to move, so it's not like he's that concerned about it happening again, you know, yeah.
01:24:58.087 --> 01:25:07.917
[SPEAKER_03]: I also think it's funny that the rhino has a coin slot on his back that is like the opening to all of his like necessity like computer parts.
01:25:08.578 --> 01:25:10.560
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the the Death Star opening.
01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:13.183
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's indestructible.
01:25:13.243 --> 01:25:16.646
[SPEAKER_02]: Except there's a little coin opening on the back of your rhino hood.
01:25:16.666 --> 01:25:19.189
[SPEAKER_02]: And if someone gets in there, that's going to be trouble.
01:25:19.369 --> 01:25:22.052
[SPEAKER_02]: But.
01:25:22.252 --> 01:25:52.073
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so cap and spider man get their own clear and they're they're kind of laying next to each other and they get up from the blast and we get the classic to be continued ending that we've gotten the last couple issues and it's them like sitting next to each other
01:25:54.972 --> 01:25:56.907
[SPEAKER_01]: What'd you think, cab?
01:25:56.927 --> 01:25:57.253
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh...
01:25:58.077 --> 01:25:59.819
[SPEAKER_01]: is Captain of Train Spider-Man?
01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:03.282
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's almost what we were getting with him and Peter.
01:26:03.322 --> 01:26:07.886
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we were getting a little bit of Iron Man training Spider-Man.
01:26:08.787 --> 01:26:12.790
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the plan was that all of the Ultimates would eventually get a turn with him.
01:26:12.810 --> 01:26:17.394
[SPEAKER_03]: We saw Peter and Tony work together, and they worked together pretty well.
01:26:17.995 --> 01:26:28.084
[SPEAKER_02]: And it felt like that was something that was always getting promised, but we were never fully getting too much of it.
01:26:28.064 --> 01:26:33.093
[SPEAKER_02]: Like once every couple months Tony Stark would show up and be like, remember it's time for training.
01:26:34.775 --> 01:26:43.610
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and part of that might have been my fault with the pacing because I think we were interposing that with like ultimate doom.
01:26:46.055 --> 01:26:52.165
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, uh, it is interesting in in certain ways
01:26:52.820 --> 01:27:18.559
[SPEAKER_03]: Miles' story is a continuation of what Peter's story would have been, which is like, well, he's going to need some oversight from the ultimates and Captain America disapproves of them, and he's eventually like Peter would have gone to a university, and we would have gotten like dorm-life stories where he, you know, has to hide his identity from a roommate, and that's exactly what Miles is going through right now.
01:27:19.200 --> 01:27:19.300
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:27:19.280 --> 01:27:28.249
[SPEAKER_03]: It's interesting that they went, they made them even younger, but they also found a way to like work in those plot beats that they were obviously building towards with Peter.
01:27:28.789 --> 01:27:29.069
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:27:31.532 --> 01:27:32.373
[SPEAKER_03]: What did I think?
01:27:32.813 --> 01:27:34.235
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what did you think?
01:27:35.536 --> 01:27:38.919
[SPEAKER_03]: I like this one a lot better than the previous one.
01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:47.127
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, the art was firing on all
01:27:47.512 --> 01:27:55.504
[SPEAKER_03]: May and Gwen and Mary Jane were a lot more substantive than the ones that we got in my issues.
01:27:55.524 --> 01:28:03.375
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would say that this one was also was also better and just had more stuff going on in it.
01:28:04.377 --> 01:28:05.639
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd say it's a full point better.
01:28:05.679 --> 01:28:07.461
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd say it's an 8.5 out of 10.
01:28:07.962 --> 01:28:09.324
[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking the same thing.
01:28:09.364 --> 01:28:15.493
[SPEAKER_02]: So an 8.5 what out of 10 because we didn't actually give the last one a rating scale.
01:28:22.612 --> 01:28:25.076
[SPEAKER_03]: Cakes destroyed I love it.
01:28:25.857 --> 01:28:51.015
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, this is definitely an eight and a half out of ten destroyed wedding cakes and really if we're I mean if we're going to be continuity sticklers, he should have had white wedding cake all over him for this issue as well.
01:28:51.265 --> 01:29:05.562
[SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah, they said you stink like cake and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
01:29:08.309 --> 01:29:09.832
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, pretty good.
01:29:10.333 --> 01:29:11.275
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, what's next week?
01:29:11.976 --> 01:29:13.159
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so next week.
01:29:13.259 --> 01:29:24.040
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually just had the note up and then I put it away Is ultimates 15 and 16 and then after that we're gonna be back here in ultimate spider man 15 and 16
01:29:25.049 --> 01:29:34.888
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, so we're right back to the ultimates now, right back to the ultimates, yep, because like I said, these are kind of like running over each other in a way.
01:29:34.928 --> 01:29:43.003
[SPEAKER_03]: This whole event is very Captain America heavy and you got to see what he's doing in one book to explain what happens in another.
01:29:43.103 --> 01:29:43.383
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:29:44.906 --> 01:29:45.808
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, nice.
01:29:47.172 --> 01:29:49.094
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:29:49.114 --> 01:29:51.397
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, do we have anything else, John?
01:29:51.457 --> 01:29:53.800
[SPEAKER_03]: Do we get it all out of the way early on?
01:29:54.921 --> 01:29:57.544
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's do this.
01:29:58.585 --> 01:30:00.387
[SPEAKER_02]: We're done with spider-man stuff, right?
01:30:01.629 --> 01:30:02.490
[SPEAKER_02]: Another banger.
01:30:03.731 --> 01:30:10.599
[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be our Christmas episode technically, because the next episode will not come out until weeks after Christmas.
01:30:10.639 --> 01:30:13.703
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, this one will come out probably a couple of days after Christmas.
01:30:15.033 --> 01:30:17.096
[SPEAKER_02]: So what type of Christmas plans do you have?
01:30:17.136 --> 01:30:18.478
[SPEAKER_02]: What's Santa gonna bring you?
01:30:18.518 --> 01:30:19.799
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh.
01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:26.428
[SPEAKER_03]: So tomorrow we're actually supposed to go to new fields and walk around the lights with my ears.
01:30:26.488 --> 01:30:30.153
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh, Zach, you and I did that one year.
01:30:30.193 --> 01:30:31.435
[SPEAKER_03]: You put me onto that.
01:30:31.515 --> 01:30:33.117
[SPEAKER_03]: I back in another life.
01:30:33.658 --> 01:30:38.164
[SPEAKER_03]: I had never even known that they did Christmas lights and then Shyla was like, I love that.
01:30:38.204 --> 01:30:40.247
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to go back again.
01:30:40.227 --> 01:30:43.431
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, well, we just got money and I could do that.
01:30:43.991 --> 01:30:45.894
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's find our dude.
01:30:46.274 --> 01:30:48.957
[SPEAKER_01]: No, thanks for the invite to that Zach.
01:30:48.977 --> 01:30:49.478
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
01:30:49.518 --> 01:30:50.058
[SPEAKER_03]: It was our gift.
01:30:50.078 --> 01:30:54.023
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like I'm the one that invited you to that a couple of years ago.
01:30:54.083 --> 01:30:59.169
[SPEAKER_02]: That was right before we started this podcast, actually, if you remember, before the podcast.
01:30:59.189 --> 01:31:01.752
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like just, I think we were about to start it.
01:31:02.493 --> 01:31:02.773
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:31:03.814 --> 01:31:04.095
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
01:31:05.136 --> 01:31:07.078
[SPEAKER_03]: Crazy to think about that is.
01:31:07.244 --> 01:31:13.831
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but yeah, I don't know how that's going to go over because we just got like seven inches of snow to go.
01:31:15.473 --> 01:31:18.396
[SPEAKER_03]: So that might be getting canceled or it might be even better.
01:31:18.476 --> 01:31:19.838
[SPEAKER_02]: Who knows, it'll be so pretty.
01:31:19.878 --> 01:31:22.961
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it will be pretty if we can get out of our house.
01:31:23.402 --> 01:31:23.662
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:31:24.583 --> 01:31:29.629
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, other than that, I think, think we're just not doing anything too big for Christmas this year.
01:31:29.749 --> 01:31:30.329
[SPEAKER_03]: What about you?
01:31:31.090 --> 01:31:31.851
[SPEAKER_03]: What are your plans?
01:31:33.974 --> 01:31:46.195
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... my plans so i'm going to the chicago bears green day packers game this weekend ooh that'll be fun that soldier field that that's kind of
01:31:47.643 --> 01:31:53.413
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going with Mandy's family to that as a part of like her dad's birthday gifts.
01:31:54.174 --> 01:31:55.456
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm guessing there's fans.
01:31:56.097 --> 01:31:56.378
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:31:57.219 --> 01:31:57.479
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
01:31:57.499 --> 01:31:58.461
[SPEAKER_02]: So that will be fun.
01:31:58.481 --> 01:32:00.344
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm an odd and the biggest bear's fan ever.
01:32:00.404 --> 01:32:01.326
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be the, you know.
01:32:01.406 --> 01:32:02.047
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, for sure.
01:32:02.087 --> 01:32:03.970
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be the number one bear's fan.
01:32:04.491 --> 01:32:05.533
[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, you will be there.
01:32:05.553 --> 01:32:11.743
[SPEAKER_03]: The legitimately drunk talking about how close they were in Super Bowl 41.
01:32:11.926 --> 01:32:15.671
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, well, that's a problem.
01:32:16.492 --> 01:32:20.557
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I couldn't ever go against Peyton Manning in the bear.
01:32:20.597 --> 01:32:23.460
[SPEAKER_02]: So I, that's probably the one thing that would be too far.
01:32:24.181 --> 01:32:30.890
[SPEAKER_02]: Because although I will be the biggest bear's fan ever, I'll still do some shit talking if that game would happen to come on.
01:32:31.310 --> 01:32:35.135
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, of course, I'd be like, The Rex Grossman is going to win.
01:32:35.255 --> 01:32:37.478
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, give me a break.
01:32:39.044 --> 01:32:47.158
[SPEAKER_02]: uh, and unfortunately, I won't be, I won't be belligerently drunk either because, um, you're with more men, yes.
01:32:47.178 --> 01:32:49.482
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to say it.
01:32:49.963 --> 01:32:52.427
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that, that, we don't want to say no.
01:32:53.368 --> 01:32:59.078
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to sound to mental against the people who are not drinking.
01:32:59.058 --> 01:33:14.265
[SPEAKER_02]: fucking losers so I'm no so I'm going to I'm gonna we're we're gonna go hang out with her family and and I don't know We'll probably celebrate Christmas over there and then you know my family does Christmas but
01:33:14.482 --> 01:33:20.030
[SPEAKER_02]: I've bought myself a number of Christmas presents this year with my Illinois bet winnings.
01:33:20.070 --> 01:33:26.840
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just quickly just getting funneled out the door back into the American economy, I say.
01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:27.962
[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
01:33:28.483 --> 01:33:29.264
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:33:29.464 --> 01:33:32.008
[SPEAKER_03]: That is the most American thing, you know, consuming it.
01:33:32.669 --> 01:33:32.809
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:33:33.050 --> 01:33:34.472
[SPEAKER_03]: You can do it.
01:33:34.492 --> 01:33:35.393
[SPEAKER_03]: Buying more.
01:33:36.740 --> 01:33:37.120
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:33:37.821 --> 01:33:39.043
[SPEAKER_03]: Vyx stuff I don't need.
01:33:39.063 --> 01:33:39.944
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:33:40.605 --> 01:33:45.350
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel bad because Shiloh was like, what do you want for Christmas?
01:33:45.370 --> 01:33:46.431
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you want for next year?
01:33:46.471 --> 01:33:52.098
[SPEAKER_03]: And we say we're going to we give experiences now instead of like things because we have enough things.
01:33:52.478 --> 01:33:52.699
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
01:33:53.520 --> 01:33:58.425
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know why, but I've just decided I was like, I really want to go to Lawlipouluse.
01:33:58.566 --> 01:33:59.547
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never been before.
01:33:59.807 --> 01:34:01.369
[SPEAKER_03]: Never thought I would be interested in it.
01:34:01.429 --> 01:34:04.873
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Riot Fest always sounded better to me before, but now I'm
01:34:04.853 --> 01:34:13.644
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm I'm chilling out and I'm expanding my tastes and streets keep saying childish Gambino is probably going to headline this year.
01:34:13.664 --> 01:34:17.528
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and I'm like, I want to see Donald Glover that sounds awesome.
01:34:17.548 --> 01:34:17.829
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:34:18.790 --> 01:34:21.373
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but if we're doing a community rewatch.
01:34:22.134 --> 01:34:23.235
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been watching Atlanta.
01:34:23.536 --> 01:34:24.357
[SPEAKER_02]: So funny.
01:34:25.158 --> 01:34:25.438
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:34:26.579 --> 01:34:27.160
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, great.
01:34:27.180 --> 01:34:28.221
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen Atlanta.
01:34:28.722 --> 01:34:29.663
[SPEAKER_03]: I should watch it.
01:34:30.183 --> 01:34:31.706
[SPEAKER_03]: He like created it.
01:34:31.746 --> 01:34:33.829
[SPEAKER_03]: He like I know rights most of it and stuff.
01:34:33.849 --> 01:34:33.969
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:34:34.290 --> 01:34:34.510
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:34:35.272 --> 01:34:36.634
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, is it him and his brother?
01:34:36.694 --> 01:34:38.096
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I think so.
01:34:38.137 --> 01:34:38.377
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:34:38.477 --> 01:34:43.686
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I said after this, we're going to do community because I thought no one has that experience.
01:34:43.786 --> 01:34:45.870
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone probably watched community first.
01:34:46.130 --> 01:34:49.035
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to come in the other way.
01:34:49.015 --> 01:34:53.661
[SPEAKER_03]: But also, you can't just go to lawal clues.
01:34:53.801 --> 01:34:59.248
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to get like the VIP tickets that I can be closer to the stages.
01:34:59.448 --> 01:35:01.291
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, that's so much money.
01:35:01.331 --> 01:35:02.713
[SPEAKER_03]: And I probably will let you know.
01:35:02.733 --> 01:35:04.695
[SPEAKER_02]: Good job, Neo's doing really quickly.
01:35:04.735 --> 01:35:06.157
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I might have to.
01:35:06.177 --> 01:35:07.278
[SPEAKER_02]: I wear up five bucks.
01:35:07.599 --> 01:35:11.264
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I have to hope for a big Neo bounce to swing that next year.
01:35:13.026 --> 01:35:15.069
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's just next time it bounces.
01:35:15.089 --> 01:35:17.031
[SPEAKER_02]: Take some profits.
01:35:18.040 --> 01:35:20.924
[SPEAKER_02]: You were telling me it's going to go back down.
01:35:21.025 --> 01:35:29.437
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I say it every time But I don't ever do it myself either, but then I check and it's always it's just you know It's just one of those stocks dude.
01:35:30.058 --> 01:35:32.402
[SPEAKER_03]: I there was one point You called it.
01:35:32.522 --> 01:35:44.200
[SPEAKER_03]: I had like $3,000 profit in my hands and I was like No man the big numbers gonna keep getting bigger And now I'm back down to being down a thousand
01:35:44.602 --> 01:35:49.909
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, yeah, it all, it's all nothing until you take it out.
01:35:50.410 --> 01:35:55.317
[SPEAKER_02]: I just bought a little bit of Bitcoin, which is the stupidest sentence ever.
01:35:55.998 --> 01:36:05.010
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, and, you know, I like try to buy it like being smart, right, as like diversifying and like maybe it's good to have.
01:36:05.411 --> 01:36:07.133
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the second I buy it, I'm like,
01:36:07.113 --> 01:36:12.424
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, I just thought something that has no value and it's completely meaningless.
01:36:12.444 --> 01:36:15.069
[SPEAKER_02]: So what the fuck did I just spend money on?
01:36:17.614 --> 01:36:26.792
[SPEAKER_03]: Might as well buy like the meme coins, like, at this point, I would buy like Hocktuba coin because I'm sure, you know,
01:36:27.093 --> 01:36:28.796
[SPEAKER_03]: it goes for pennies on the dollar.
01:36:28.976 --> 01:36:40.677
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's meaningless, but that's the thing is like maybe there will be a hawk to a resurgence at some point.
01:36:41.518 --> 01:36:44.123
[SPEAKER_03]: And if those things are even worth a penny,
01:36:44.761 --> 01:36:46.884
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I just 10xed my money.
01:36:47.485 --> 01:36:47.966
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
01:36:48.306 --> 01:36:48.567
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:36:49.328 --> 01:36:57.279
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's, there's something to be said about that, you know, when no one's talking about one, that's when it's time to buy, yeah.
01:36:57.740 --> 01:37:01.526
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is why I got Bitcoin, you know, it just went down, it went down quite a bit.
01:37:01.646 --> 01:37:02.587
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know.
01:37:02.607 --> 01:37:04.971
[SPEAKER_03]: We give such good financial advice on this pod.
01:37:05.512 --> 01:37:08.636
[SPEAKER_02]: The Zach, you want to buy low and sell high.
01:37:08.997 --> 01:37:09.297
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:37:09.317 --> 01:37:10.138
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the name of the game.
01:37:10.759 --> 01:37:10.980
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
01:37:11.540 --> 01:37:12.642
[SPEAKER_02]: Buff it taught me that.
01:37:15.001 --> 01:37:16.483
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what else do we have today?
01:37:16.984 --> 01:37:18.006
[SPEAKER_03]: What else do we have?
01:37:19.648 --> 01:37:20.449
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got nothing.
01:37:21.231 --> 01:37:21.511
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:37:22.132 --> 01:37:23.234
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the jam of the week?
01:37:23.835 --> 01:37:25.096
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we'll send it out.
01:37:25.778 --> 01:37:26.158
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:37:26.238 --> 01:37:27.500
[SPEAKER_03]: So, thank you.
01:37:27.961 --> 01:37:28.622
[SPEAKER_03]: Jam of the week.
01:37:28.962 --> 01:37:29.924
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Scott Saturday.
01:37:29.984 --> 01:37:31.947
[SPEAKER_03]: You texted me today about it.
01:37:31.987 --> 01:37:33.469
[SPEAKER_03]: It might be Austin today.
01:37:33.489 --> 01:37:39.679
[SPEAKER_03]: I almost asked you if I've recommended street light manifesto to you before.
01:37:39.759 --> 01:37:43.084
[SPEAKER_03]: Because for my money, I think street light is the best Scott band.
01:37:43.064 --> 01:37:52.320
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you've ever recommended them, but from just the Scott playlist that I'll let run over the years, I see that name often.
01:37:52.961 --> 01:38:02.757
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I couldn't tell you any like songs off the top of my head, but if I saw there, you know, I'm sure I'd be able to, I'm sure I'd recognize some titles.
01:38:03.338 --> 01:38:03.739
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:38:03.719 --> 01:38:12.288
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm going to challenge you to listen to some street light manifesto because they're the goats and I'm going to say the jam of the week is He's be nights by them.
01:38:13.189 --> 01:38:13.990
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, dude.
01:38:14.090 --> 01:38:25.922
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's the one that I thought it was but I couldn't think of it's of what it's called, but it's the one where it's like Proofless yeah my my other time.
01:38:25.942 --> 01:38:28.065
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, yes, that's a great.
01:38:28.305 --> 01:38:28.585
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:38:28.665 --> 01:38:29.406
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good one
01:38:29.487 --> 01:38:37.841
[SPEAKER_03]: All their songs are go to, the three of us, we will fall together, there's so many.
01:38:38.382 --> 01:38:47.057
[SPEAKER_03]: They have such a cool, like, fast, tight, jazzy style that, like, no one else has been able to replicate.
01:38:47.577 --> 01:38:51.206
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, okay, that's a great jam of the week.
01:38:51.226 --> 01:39:01.513
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll definitely listen to that one and here I'll give a jam of the week too because this one shuffle it on today and I was liking it and you'll know what it's called and I don't but it's the song from Superman when Mr.
01:39:01.573 --> 01:39:03.358
[SPEAKER_02]: Terrific's doing his thing that's like
01:39:04.688 --> 01:39:05.129
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
01:39:05.189 --> 01:39:10.034
[SPEAKER_02]: Does it have like fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun yeah, I don't know the national song.
01:39:10.094 --> 01:39:11.476
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I know that one.
01:39:11.616 --> 01:39:12.758
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my Jay of the week.
01:39:13.238 --> 01:39:14.420
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's good.
01:39:14.580 --> 01:39:18.264
[SPEAKER_03]: And in lowest lane is like looking around like what the hell is going on.
01:39:18.805 --> 01:39:20.887
[SPEAKER_03]: It's your classic James gum scene.
01:39:21.468 --> 01:39:22.830
[SPEAKER_03]: I do like that scene a lot.
01:39:23.250 --> 01:39:32.181
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I also have to give a happy birthday shout out to my absolute goat Dick Van Dyke turned 100 today.
01:39:32.161 --> 01:39:35.025
[SPEAKER_03]: So shout out to him for making it.
01:39:35.245 --> 01:39:38.069
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the Dick Van Dyke show so much.
01:39:38.490 --> 01:39:45.039
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was genuinely very sad to turn the American Dick Van Dyke turned 100.
01:39:45.079 --> 01:39:46.801
[SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing.
01:39:47.322 --> 01:39:49.725
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish Mary Tyler Moore was still with us.
01:39:49.845 --> 01:39:56.454
[SPEAKER_03]: I was so sad the day she passed, but everyone in that cast lived surprisingly long.
01:39:56.494 --> 01:40:00.700
[SPEAKER_03]: Like Rose Marie also live to be
01:40:00.680 --> 01:40:04.464
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, is that if you just laugh a lot, you know, you're having fun?
01:40:04.504 --> 01:40:06.986
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it's all about, right?
01:40:07.647 --> 01:40:08.087
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess.
01:40:09.248 --> 01:40:10.570
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got some secret.
01:40:10.610 --> 01:40:14.814
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever seen the movie a year without a Santa Claus?
01:40:15.574 --> 01:40:15.815
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
01:40:16.976 --> 01:40:17.677
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the movie.
01:40:17.977 --> 01:40:20.439
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like an old-timey 70s movie I watched it over a year.
01:40:20.479 --> 01:40:22.261
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got snowmiser and heatmiser.
01:40:22.521 --> 01:40:25.044
[SPEAKER_02]: If I say that, do you know that from the internet?
01:40:25.104 --> 01:40:27.506
[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently they're like a TikTok thing nowadays.
01:40:28.087 --> 01:40:29.488
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it like a claymation movie?
01:40:29.789 --> 01:40:32.633
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, kind of it's like stop motion animated.
01:40:32.653 --> 01:40:36.139
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Shiloh was watching it the other day and I was like, what the fuck is this?
01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:51.763
[SPEAKER_02]: It's amazing the snowmizer heatmizer But anyway that the snowmizer, it's funny you say Dick Van Dyke because for some reason snowmizer reminds me of Dick Van Dyke and like
01:40:51.743 --> 01:40:56.370
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know he's not the person who plays it, but he'll forever stare.
01:40:57.271 --> 01:41:02.159
[SPEAKER_02]: The guy who plays snowmiser, I just can't imagine it's someone like Superfant.
01:41:02.179 --> 01:41:06.485
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just going to be like, you know, a normal, whatever.
01:41:06.726 --> 01:41:07.106
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
01:41:11.513 --> 01:41:15.339
[SPEAKER_02]: Because Dick Sean or Michael McKeen.
01:41:15.699 --> 01:41:20.046
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, Michael McKeen.
01:41:21.410 --> 01:41:21.991
[SPEAKER_02]: the brother.
01:41:22.051 --> 01:41:25.375
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's just, it's Dick Sean.
01:41:25.535 --> 01:41:26.236
[SPEAKER_02]: That's who sings it.
01:41:26.256 --> 01:41:32.764
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, just like the way he looks and everything, he just like gives off a Dick Van Dyke vibe that I always think of.
01:41:33.966 --> 01:41:45.440
[SPEAKER_03]: She was, she was watching Santa Claus has come into town and it was Fred Astaire was the narrator and I was like, It's probably the same type of movie made in the same like time period and everything.
01:41:46.081 --> 01:41:46.942
[SPEAKER_02]: Four years apart.
01:41:48.144 --> 01:41:48.244
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:41:50.232 --> 01:41:52.659
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay, wow.
01:41:52.699 --> 01:41:57.695
[SPEAKER_02]: We gave the listeners some good songs and some good movie Rex there for the Christmas season.
01:41:58.096 --> 01:41:58.357
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
01:41:58.477 --> 01:42:03.432
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I do have a shout out and a heavy birthday to the fans.
01:42:04.272 --> 01:42:26.382
[SPEAKER_03]: We got a listener mailbag, it's been a while, but I want to shout out Nate Smart, Nate said, hey guys, thanks for getting me through my shift at work, love the opinions and thoughts on everything, y'all truly are the number one Spider-Man Sports podcast, and then also he sent his Spotify wrapped that says we're the number one podcast.
01:42:26.362 --> 01:42:27.283
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
01:42:27.984 --> 01:42:28.624
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh.
01:42:28.644 --> 01:42:29.365
[SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome.
01:42:29.986 --> 01:42:52.288
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, don't need and and thank you to everyone who had us in their top podcast Definitely that's so cool to even like think about to the honest right Oh, man, that is awesome and it did make my day and I appreciate you writing in Nate Yeah Okay, I don't have anything else.
01:42:52.328 --> 01:42:54.630
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's an awesome way to end it
01:42:54.678 --> 01:42:55.179
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
01:42:56.221 --> 01:43:00.168
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let me just, uh, uh, oh, look at Omaha.
01:43:00.188 --> 01:43:05.398
[SPEAKER_01]: She came up me Omaha came up just to say hi.
01:43:06.139 --> 01:43:07.702
[SPEAKER_01]: When we were talking about you on the pod.
01:43:08.102 --> 01:43:11.168
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you all for the she's the best.
01:43:11.148 --> 01:43:32.672
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