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Hello word nerds
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My name is Spencer Parks. I host this podcast. I read the dictionary the words the definitions
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Hello and welcome to how did this not get made?
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This is the podcast all about the movies you never saw the scripts that were never filmed and the ideas that never even made it to the page
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My name is David Spencer and my name is Daniel Kawka
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So we are back yes to continue the season yeah, we are at a little bit of a slowdown
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But I am glad to still be doing episodes
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I have been researching constantly even with the job change and whatnot
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And I'm very
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Excited about what the subject is going to be for this one. Yeah, what are we talking about we are talking about the creature from the
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Black lagoon we are going to be talking more specifically about the John Carpenter
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Creature from the black lagoon, but we are going to touch on some other
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Creature features that may or may not have happened throughout the years that followed after it and even
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Project that happened before then that didn't fully come through very cool
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But before we do that, I just want to ask you what is your history with the creature with Gilman?
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I can't say that I've got a lot of familiarity with creature from black lagoon
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I've seen you know a couple of the universal monster films from that era
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You know, I've always been aware of creature for the black lagoon
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I watched that original one for the first time in preparation for this and
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I can't really say that it left any impression on me. It was just like yep, that was a thing
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I don't know it didn't really stick with me
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I don't really know much about the lore or about you know the potential for this
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But it really just feels like the creature for the black lagoon is just there to fill out the roster
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Maybe people will disagree with me, but just from how I felt about watching the movie and just kind of how I felt about
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Hearing about the creature in general. It's just like having another monster for having the sake of another monster
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Yeah, and I think your perspective may change when we go through the history
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Okay, okay, he's a pretty interesting
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Character a pretty interesting monster for sure. Cool. I know with my history
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I think very much like you like I recently watched the creature from the black lagoon for the first time
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But it's been something that's always been in this like guys
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I know both of us have been to universal you worked at universal for a little bit for a little bit
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Universal monsters were always present were always there there was
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Frankenstein Dracula mummy invisible man hunchback in Notre Dame and
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The creature from the black lagoon
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Mm-hmm. They were just yeah, like you said just part of the roster that was just always there
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I know Karina Longworth. She did a really interesting series about
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Carl Lemley and how he got the
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Monster films into universal and how he got all that started and how universal kind of became the staple of
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horror films or at least the studio that became known for horror films yeah and
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For the creature he's just one of the few that are part of the lineup
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but the movie I can understand why it didn't seem like it had too much impact because
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This is again one of those movies were because they did it first
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there are so many other
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films TV shows that
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Followed up with it and kind of took the idea and then ran with it which is kind of why it seems like it doesn't seem like anything fresh or anything new
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Yeah, when it comes to that, but I know we've seen this plenty of times with the first ones like they walk so that
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So many other monster movies could run sure. Yeah, let's go into the history of the creature from the black lagoon
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But before we go into that history let's go into the lagoon of
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These the terrifying black lagoon of advertising yes
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And we're back let's get into this lore
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So the creature from the black lagoon it premiered in theaters on February 12
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It was presented in 3d which was pretty new technology
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The film presents itself as a movie from both the past and the future kind of making it timeless in a way
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This film introduced the world to the creature later nicknamed Gilman
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The part man part fish creature came at the tail end of the universal Karl Lemley classic monsters era
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That era was actually between 1931 and 1956
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So this was at the time that they were kind of declining into these cheap B-movie sequels
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They had a lot of forgettable add-on characters they were crossovers and
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multiple run-ins with Abbott and Castello
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So it's a miracle that this amphibious creature really stood out amongst the muck
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The idea of the creature came about at the height of the monster era in
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1941 when producer William Allen was attending a
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1941 production dinner party during the filming of Citizen Kane now William Allen
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Citizen Kane he portrayed the reporter Jerry Thompson
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Now in a conversation with Mexican cinematographer Gabriel Figueroa
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He told Allen about a mythical creature that lived in the Amazon River that was half fish half human and no it was not a mermaid
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About 10 years later Allen pursued the idea to make it into a film with Maurice Zim
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They created a treatment titled the sea monster now it doesn't make much sense just because he does come from a river
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Man-made monster and it came from outer space the other writer was author Ross and they retitled it the black lagoon
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Now to direct Allen hired Jack Arnold
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He also directed it came from outer space, but he also directed
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Trancila and the incredible shrinking man. So this guy was known for a special effects known for his horror films as well
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Mm-hmm, and was coming off of the success of his latest film House of Wax
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Oh, which came out in 1953
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Gilman suit was designed by Disney animator
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Melissa Patrick for nearly 50 years the creature design was primarily credited to the makeup artist bud Westmore
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Who left out her role in the production and Westmore was primarily in charge of just making the molds and not actually the design
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To make the body suit was makeup artist Jack Kevin now
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He also worked on Wizard of Oz Abbot and Castello meet Frankenstein it came from outer space and Abbot and Castello meet Dr.
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Jackal and Mr. Hyde
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while the head was sculpted by Chris Mueller Jr
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Who worked on 20,000 leagues under the sea and jaws -
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The men under the suit were Ben Chapman and Riko Browning Ben Chapman did all the scenes with the creature on land
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primarily shot on the universal studios back plot like every creature suit that we've covered on the show
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The suit was incredibly hot to wear
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Chapman would often request to be hosed down to keep cool because the suit was
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Formfitted to the stunt actors. They couldn't actually afford to lose or gain any weight during the production or the suit wouldn't fit anymore
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And for Chapman he couldn't sit down while wearing the suit
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The headpiece caused a lot more issues because Chapman couldn't see out of it
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And then one take he actually scraped Julie Adams head against the wall while he was carrying her through the grotto
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I was carrying Julie in my arms through this cave and she was you know slung over my arms with her head down
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And I couldn't see where I was going and clunk. I went wide into one of these artificial rocks
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And I had no idea what happens she started kicking in the end and they were yelling cut
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I can't say I was truly injured but it gave me a bit of a start
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You know first of all I'm freezing cold trying not to trying not to have goosebumps and the bump
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As there's a famous picture that appeared in a newspaper of Dick Carlson's
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Standing myself Jack Arnold and a nurse passing her up
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We took a couple hours off and Julie was ready to go again
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You know pull a makeup on it, but she was very professional lady
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Now Rico Brownine was in the suit for all of the underwater scenes
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Now while filming Brownine could hold his breath for about two to four minutes depending on how much movement that scene called for
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Brownine was first brought onto the production actually as a location scout
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Prior to that he was working on filming newsreels and specialized in capturing footage underwater
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He primarily worked in Florida and suggested that they filmed at a lake in
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Wakula Springs
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While scouting the camera crew did underwater screen tests and had Brownine swim in from the camera
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A few days later he was asked if he could portray the Gillman which he accepted and he continued to portray the Gillman in the next two sequels that followed it
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Brownine then went on to establish a career in the film industry working as a second unit director and a stunt coordinator
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Working for such films as Flipper Thunderball
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Around the world under the sea Caddy Shack raised the Titanic never seen ever again and police academy five just named a few movies
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Wow, yeah long and prolific career. He's got a really interesting career
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Yeah, but it's very much like how he's the director for John Wick
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He started off as a stunt man and then went on to be a second unit director for like doing stunts and then went on to actually like direct his own movies
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And that was yeah John Wick chance to Helski. That's who he is so with the box office success from Creature from the Black Lagoon
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It seemed like universal's creature features weren't losing their lustre
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So the sequel went into production under the title Return of the Creature
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Which then reworked into return of the Creature from the Black Lagoon
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Which they then settled on revenge of the creature that one came out in 1955
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Although it is implied that the creature was shot to death at the end of the first film the creature then returned
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Explained away by not explaining it at all
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The the filming location was entirely in Florida
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Although the location of the Amazon Lagoon changed to the St. John's River and the primary location was at the Maryland of Florida
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Which was the setting of the generically and redundantly named Ocean Harbor Oceanarium
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This this film was also the acting debut of a 25 year old Clint Eastwood
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Yeah, he portrays an uncredited lab assistant who has a rat in his pocket
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Wow
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But there were four rats in there when I changed my lights
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Now there's only three
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It's my considerate opinion that rat number four is sitting inside that cat
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Are you sure you fed them all this morning?
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Sure, I always feed them
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[Music]
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How'd it get in here?
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Returning to direct was Jack Arnold with the film being shot again in black and white 3D
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To write the script they hired Martin Berkeley who previously wrote another Jack Arnold film Tarantula
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Like I mentioned before
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Rico Browning returned as the Gilman for any underwater shots
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But the above water shots was replaced with the actor Tom Hennessy
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This film more so follows the similar plotline of King Kong
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In which the Gilman is literally a fish out of water who is taking to a lab to be studied
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Taught how to communicate with humans and used as a tourist attraction
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In the end the creature is shot again and actually
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inserted the same shot of the Gilman like falling
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Lifelessly through the water so they reuse the same shot of him dying from the first film
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To show him dying again in the second film
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But then there was another film there was the creature walks among us
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This one came out in 1956
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Now Jack Arnold did not return for this third installment and instead John sure would it was hired
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And the movie was shot in 2D
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Returning was Rico Browning to do what he does best swim underwater for long periods of time
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And one of the writers from the first film Arthur Ross
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They use his treatment to create this movie
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That treatment that he created was called the creature of man
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Now the above water Gilman was replaced again
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This time the actor was done with going
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This is the film where the theme and premise really goes off the rails
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In this Dr. William Barton sets out to find the Gilman
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Which I guess he's still alive
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And they turn the creature into a land walker
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Now why would they do this?
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It was to discover how humans can evolve so that they may live in outer space
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On top of that the monster is completely changed after he's given surgery
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The scales are replaced with skin
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Which give the head and face a much smoother appearance
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And is monstrously bigger
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He also wears clothes now because it's cheaper to than make it a new suit
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This film wouldn't just be the end of the Gilman's run
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But the end of the monster era for Universal in 1956
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And like many of the other Universal Monsters
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Gilman had a run in with Abbott in Castello
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Well they tell us this is where they make all the horror pictures
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Oh yes you're Abbott in Castello aren't you?
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Yes yes
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Yes they told me you were coming down into the property
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And this is where we keep all of our horror figures for the horror pictures
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Yes they are Dracula
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And there's the Wolfman
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And there's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde but wait
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Wait until you see our latest horror creature
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Who is that?
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The creature from the Black Lagoon
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That one actually premiered on TV 90s after the very first creature from the Black Lagoon hit theaters
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So they were already on top of it
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Even though the creature was around for just three years
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Gilman has become such an iconic character
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And is considered one of the essential monsters of the Universal's classic monster lineup
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What's even more incredible is that most of the monsters are taken from other properties
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And established characters
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So like Dracula, Frankenstein's monster, Fanmuthy Opera, Wolfman
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The Gilman on the other hand is a completely original creature
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Made specifically for a Universal film
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Which means that Universal they own the rights to this character
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Which is why a lot of other studios
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They can use Dracula and whatnot
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But as far as the Gilman goes, like they have to ask permission from Universal in order for them to use that character
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Now attempts to bring back Gilman have been numerous
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The first notable attempt was with John Landis in 1982
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With the script written by Nigel Neely
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At the time he was best known for directing Shlok
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Animal House, the Blues Brothers, and American War of in London
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Originally Landis was going to step back
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And bring in Jack Arnold, who was 65 at the time, to direct this reboot
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In the script there would have been two creatures
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One destructive, and the other calm, insensitive
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And they would have to face off against the US Navy
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Landis also wanted to shoot the movie in 3D, like the original
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But the executives at Universal chose to invest instead into another 3D movie at the time
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Jaws 3D
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So that film never went through
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But in 1987 we did see the Gilman on the silver screen with the Fred Deeker film Monstersquad
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Now this creature was designed by Sam Winston
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Who changed the design enough to actually skirt around the copyright infringement
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But it was recognisable enough to know what creature we are looking at
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I would suggest looking up to see what this creature looks like
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Now this creature he created is honestly terrifying
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It has a piranha angular fish head with a scaly human body with fins
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Oh yeah
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Unlike the first Gilman when he gets shot he actually stays dead
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Although it is great to see the Gilman once again in a film
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Although he was not the star of the film
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And he was not affiliated with the Universal creation
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Yeah
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The next attempt and the primary topic of this episode is when John Carpenter
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Through his hat into the ring to reboot the creature from a black lagoon
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In 1992
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Yeah
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Universal's then president Tom Pollock told Carpenter
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"Look through our library pictures and see if there is anything you want to make
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The first movie John Carpenter would think of to reboot was the creature from the black lagoon
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Carpenter seemed like a great fit to remake this creature feature
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Since he's done this before when he made the thing back in 1982
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Which was actually a remake of the thing from another world
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Which was made in 1951 which was based on the book of the same name
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Yeah that's definitely what I was thinking of when I was thinking of like
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Oh yeah John Carpenter doing a creature from the black lagoon makes sense
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Yeah now to create the story
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Carpenter first read Nigel Nileys script that he wrote for John Landis
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Now this is a quote from Carpenter
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Nigel wrote a very interesting script
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But it was written for 3D
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It was also written 10 years ago
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And things have changed since then
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Where you want to start from the beginning
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We may use aspects of Nigel's work
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He wrote some pretty neat scenes but we're going to redo them
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Carpenter wasn't willing to work with Neely again after collaborating with him
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Prior on Halloween 3 season of the witch
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Carpenter described him as a "rascible" and "mean"
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To write the script and said Carpenter hired Bill Phillips
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Who would later work with Carpenter to make Christine Firestarter in LDablo
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Now Carpenter's hope was to make an R-rated modern day reboot
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From the 1992 Starlog magazine interview
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In which Carpenter explains what the film would be about
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Quote "There were several possible aspects to the storyline
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One of them involves the creature being the missing link between man and fish
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It would be interesting to combine that with a creationist scientist
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Who's trying to prove that man walked with dinosaurs 10,000 years ago
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They tried to prove that literal biblical origin of life
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In a total contradiction of scientific fact
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I think that's one of the interesting things about the original movie
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That it's talking about evolution and the evolutionary link and everything of fish being able to
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Evolve to grow legs and walk on land and everything
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It's kind of cool that this is like wanting to lean into that even more
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Yeah, you get that opening shot
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It's like that explosion shot which is supposed to be like the big bang
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Yeah
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In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
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And the earth was without form and void
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It's a little strange that the origins of all of the other universal monsters
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Or at least as far as I know are much more mystical and mythical monsters
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As opposed to this is like very much tied to like science and evolution and that type of a thing
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Yeah, I mean if you think about when a lot of these monsters were created
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They're kind of a product of their time
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Sure
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With the Gilman like the evolutionary theory was starting to become more and more popular
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More and more recognized and it was being taught in schools
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So why not lean into it and be like what if from there you could create a creature from that
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So like I know with Dracula and vampires that came out of the fact that
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A lot of people were going into comas a lot of people didn't recognize it
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So a lot of people were getting buried alive
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Yeah
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And then the idea of like what if they came to life from there
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What would they act like what would they need and stuff like that
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And I'm thinking about Frankenstein
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Oh yeah
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Or if a science fiction than a mystical thing
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Yeah
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So it makes sense that we would kind of create a Gilman out of what we know at that time
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Continuing on from that Starlog magazine interview
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From John Carpenter again
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I would also love to work in a little love crafty and feel
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I'm thinking of the shadow over Innsmouth
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Fish mating with humans
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There has been a legend about a fish man
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So perhaps there was a race of them
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Living in the Amazon supposedly
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There are hidden pyramids in the Amazon
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I want to try to get that in there
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To create the Gilman Carpenter wanted to get the legendary special effects artist
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Rick Baker to create the creature
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Coincidentally Baker revealed that he actually signed on to make the creature
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A decade earlier when John Landis was leading the project
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From Carpenter explaining the design of the creature
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Quote
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I don't want to make him unrecognizable
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I want the creature from the Black Lagoon
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However, I think he could look less rubbery
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His claws don't have to bounce like they did in the original film
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But essentially he's not really broken
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So why fix him?
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And then from Rick Baker
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We actually did a whole bunch of designs in Maccats
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My designs for the creature were kind of like my designs for the Wolfman
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It was very much a base on a love for the original material
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And trying to stay true to that in a lot of ways
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I think we had a creature that was updated
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But you still could tell where it came from
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You can actually look up Rick Baker creature from the Black Lagoon
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And you can see the full design
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Like he actually made a full costume of the creature
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You can tell it does stay faithful
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But it does like it kind of like trims
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Like the rubberiness for it
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For the original suit
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And really like hones it in and makes it look a bit more terrifying
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Yeah
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Like you can see like the eyes aren't like that weird goggle
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Eyes and they've like narrowed in
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Yeah
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So then that leads us to the plot of John Carpenter's script
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What have been like
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And this is what we're going to go into right now
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But before we do so
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We are going to get into the plot of these advertisers
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And we're back
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And let's get into the story of John Carpenter's
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The creature from the Black Lagoon
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Yes
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We open on a wide shot of earth
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My guess is that this was actually the earth
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Using the universal logo animation
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And we push in onto South America
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Brazil
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1988
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We are somewhere on the Amazon river
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Following a small plane flying over the body of water
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Inside is the pilot Richard Conroy
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He's 38 years old American
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And a cartographer Pete Hazard
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He's a 46 year old Australian
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Pete Hazard
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Interesting name
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But a pin in that name
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Yeah
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The thunderstorm they're flying through
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Continues to get worse
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The engine stalls and Richard attempts to restart the plane
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But no luck
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They crash land into a lagoon
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The rain stops suddenly
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Pete grabs his camera and starts snapping pictures of the wildlife
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Pete is caught off guard
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When he finds a pyramid shaped stone with hieroglyphics
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Sticking out of the water
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They take an inflatable breath onto the water and inspect it further
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The stone seems to be the top of a temple
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Richard explores further in piers through the opening of the top of the temple
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When suddenly a scaly, webbed hand bursts out of the water
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Grabbs his face and pulls him under
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Pete paddles away to the plane
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And tries to call a distress call on the radio
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But before he can send out his coordinates
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A large shadow casts over him
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We cut to black
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Five years later
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A research facility has occupied the black lagoon area
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Centering around the high-tech research vessel
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known as LDablo 2
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The long island MD Jake Heyman
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Seems to be leading the expedition with his team
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Abel Gonzalez who is a ichthyologist
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A John Claude Gaston
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A Delflo Pumventory
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Bobby Whitaker
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Hector Ramirez who is a botanist
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And Mary Pearson who is a chemist
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Bobby has found the plane wreck covered in foliage
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Further inspection reveals that something more than a plane crash happened here
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Abel is anxious to jump into the water to inspect the temple
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But Jake states that they should do this right
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And get an archaeologist first
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At night the team inspects their newly developed photos
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Hector says that the underground temple looks like an ink and pyramid
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What strangers that the structure looks like
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It was made to be underwater
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They are in need of an archaeologist
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But it would take about a week until they get one on site
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The team also takes in a wanderer
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Siri Thompson who shares her story about how she was kicked out of greenpeace
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for allegedly spiking trees
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So they would stop them from getting chopped down
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Do you know what spiking trees are?
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No
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This is a very deadly activist move to avoid trees from getting cut down
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And the way that it would work is that you would actually plant metal spikes into a tree
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So that if you start chopping it down and you hit that metal spike
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Chances are that metal spike is going to shoot out of the tree
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Which could potentially kill someone
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For trying to chop down that tree
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She says that she didn't actually spike the trees
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She just put up signs that say
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Hey, don't chop down the trees
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They got spikes in them
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Yeah
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Yeah
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Anyway, she allegedly got kicked out of greenpeace for spiking trees
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She's trying to prove her worth to the team
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Which they all agree that she can stay
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But they need to run it by Mary
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Able goes to the lab to find Mary
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Who is constantly chewing gum
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She's buried in her work studying LG
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And acts like she cannot be bothered
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She says Siri can stay
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Later that night, Jake goes to series sleeping quarters to talk
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He's obviously interested in her
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Able interrupts their conversation in the two leave
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And Jake formally welcomes her to Alderado too
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That night Siri is unable to sleep and leaves her cabin
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She peers into the lagoon and sees something swimming by the temple
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Jake approaches unexpectedly
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And tries to seduce Siri again
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But she rejects all of his advances
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We see the eyes of the creature underwater
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And he's watching them
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Able interrupts Jake again
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Staining that he would like to go into the water to inspect the temple
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Adelpho enters the picture
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And Jake leaves defeated
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A thunderstorm begins
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And rain begins to pour
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The next day Able, Hector, and Adelpho
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Set up video cameras
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Bobby and John Claude rig hydrophones onto Bobby
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For when he dives into the water
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Mary gets test tubes ready to be lowered into the water
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And Siri notices a carving on the bow of the research vessel
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Mary tells her it's a "karanka"
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That Hector brought
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It's supposed to ward off evil spirits
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Now Siri goes to help John Claude with the hydrophones
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John Claude finishes his cigarette
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And flicks the butt into the water
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Siri fishes the cigarette out of the water
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And pockets the litter
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I don't know if you remember from the first movie
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There was like one specific shot
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I believe it was Kay who was smoking on the boat
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And she flicks a cigarette into the water
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Which at the time was like not really a big deal
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But like nowadays now that we're conscious of like
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littering especially with like the crying Indian commercial
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I was like yeah, don't litter anymore
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So like that was kind of a jab at that
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Is be like hey don't litter the thing that we're studying
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Or just don't litter at all
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Bobby and Able dive into the water with the equipment
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The others watch the monitor above the surface
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Under water they spot a pink dolphin
490
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,040
And a prana before reaching the side of the temple
491
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,640
They find more ink and writing in hieroglyphics of jag wires
492
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,000
And fertility signs
493
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,520
And a warning that translates to danger
494
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Bobby and Able resurface
495
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,880
But as soon as they reach the top
496
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,520
Able dives right back into the temple
497
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,360
In the temple Able spots a strange ancient scrolling
498
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,000
Old stern furniture, altars and a goblet
499
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,280
Which he takes
500
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,120
Just before he reaches the top of the surface
501
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,200
A large shadow casts over him
502
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,520
Luckily it's just a big fish swimming above him
503
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,280
More shadows cast over Able
504
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,760
Implying that he's been followed by something
505
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,440
He reaches the surface
506
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,280
And hands the goblet to the others
507
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,560
He wants to go back in but the others refuse for him to go back
508
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,280
Cause it might be too dangerous
509
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920
The team properly set up to go into the temple this time
510
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,200
In position the research vessel closer to the tip of the pyramid
511
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,440
The team takes off the top of the pyramid entirely for easy access
512
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,800
The team theorizes that the temple may have been built
513
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,280
During a dry period before it was flooded
514
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,400
But Hector brings up folk tales that he's heard
515
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,160
About underwater citizens
516
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,200
Now Hector, he grew up in a tribe south of where their research location is
517
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,760
Before he got his PhD at Harvard
518
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,000
The team prepares for another dive
519
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:21,200
This time it's Able, Jean-Claude and Siri going underwater
520
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,080
In the temple they find a primitive wall painting
521
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,920
Of a fish-like creature
522
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,200
Siri snaps a photo of it with Able posing in front of it
523
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,200
Like it's the tourist attraction
524
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,680
On the surface the team hears a scream
525
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,160
Down below Siri and Able notice that Jean-Claude is missing
526
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,760
Siri and Able resurface Able hands off his equipment
527
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,720
And dives back down to search for Jean-Claude
528
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,960
Able shines a light on the floor to find scattered bones everywhere
529
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,520
He unknowingly swims past and alter
530
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,200
The Siri swims behind Able to help find Jean-Claude
531
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,560
And then the shadows we catch a glimpse of the creature's eyes
532
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,680
Watching them
533
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,600
The creature seems to admire her
534
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,440
Able and Siri enter a sealed chamber in the temple
535
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,120
That doesn't seem to have any water in it so it's like air locked
536
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,160
The yell for Jean-Claude but there's no signs of him
537
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,680
The creature watches them
538
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,640
Able and Siri resurface in the whole research team
539
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,960
Reviews the footage Jean-Claude shot
540
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,840
To see if there was any clues of where he went
541
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,160
They watch the footage up until the screen
542
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,760
And the footage cuts out
543
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,840
They didn't figure out anything
544
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,840
We then cut to a government building in Sao Paulo, Brazil
545
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,720
Where we find Pete Hazard again
546
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,080
The Australian cartographer from the plane crashed in the cold open
547
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,600
He's now 51 with a scar that starts at his mouth
548
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,080
Continues down his neck onto his chest
549
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,640
Disappearing under his shirt
550
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,480
He receives a phone call from Hector about the location of the temple
551
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,800
Hazard seems to take this personally
552
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,040
He tells Hector to have the team wait
553
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,720
And do nothing until he gets there
554
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,160
And that he will not be calling a search team
555
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,280
Until he's certain that this is what he is looking for
556
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,120
Without hesitation he leaves
557
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,720
Lamping as he moves away quickly
558
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,000
Back at the lagoon
559
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Disobain Hazard's demands
560
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,640
Siri, Bobby and Abel dive into the temple
561
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,800
And continue to search for Jean-Claude
562
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,120
The three find themselves into a trapezoidal chamber
563
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,120
In waystep water, Bobby leads the team down the hallway on the left
564
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,000
But Siri diverges without telling them
565
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,080
And goes down the hallway on the right
566
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,080
As she enters into the new chamber
567
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,960
A dark figure seems to be following her
568
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,680
For the first time we see the full figure of the creature
569
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,280
This is actually a quote from the script
570
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Because there's like a whole paragraph
571
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,400
Just described in the creature alone
572
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,840
Just so that we have an idea
573
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,760
I know that can see the pictures online
574
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,520
But this is interesting like how Rick Baker interpreted this
575
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,080
Yeah
576
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,680
Half man, half fish
577
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,840
He's huge, powerful
578
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,560
This body is plated, covered with scales
579
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,880
Yet his skin is almost translucent
580
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,600
Areas of green broken up with
581
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,040
Multid colors
582
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,960
Silvery around his gills
583
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,800
His hands and feet are webbed
584
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,280
With huge claws with each digit
585
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,200
And his face, a fish mouth
586
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,840
And inside razor sharp rose of teeth
587
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,640
Used to rend and tear flesh
588
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,240
In his eyes alive
589
00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:22,080
Not simply blank fish eyes
590
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,560
But more human, glowing with cunning, emotion, intelligence
591
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,360
Hmm
592
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,160
Yeah
593
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,760
Definitely evocative
594
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,360
Yeah
595
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,720
Now the creature circles around Siri unnoticed
596
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:36,800
As she swims through the chambers
597
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,600
The creature reaches out and touches her ankle
598
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,560
She freaks out
599
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,240
Looks underwater to see what touched her
600
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:43,360
There's nothing
601
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,200
She keeps swimming and luckily runs into able and bobby again
602
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,800
And they all resummerge
603
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,120
Now obviously this is supposed to be a parallel
604
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,240
From the first movie where you see case swimming
605
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:55,360
Through the water
606
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,760
And there's the gill man just like
607
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,200
Infatuated with her
608
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,360
And it's like almost touching her leg
609
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,480
And then going away
610
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,920
And then like really touching her leg
611
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,680
And then like swimming away from there
612
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,080
Meanwhile, Pete Hazard pushes the limits
613
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,440
Of a rickety motorboat
614
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,840
As he speeds down the real negro
615
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,920
While the rolling stone sympathy for the devil is plain
616
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,480
Hazard is no longer addressed as a bureaucrat
617
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,160
He sports a cowboy hat in boots while smoking a hash pipe
618
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,480
In the cabin of his boat we see the supplies of explosives
619
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,960
A pistol and rifle with plenty of animal
620
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,960
Scooble gear, a harpoon gun, beer and potato chips
621
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,520
He randomly shoots at any wildlife to scare them away
622
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520
Pete arrives to the research site
623
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,040
Music's still blaring
624
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,040
Distracting Mary from her work
625
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,080
He really introduces himself as the department
626
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,240
Of in fucking terrier Amazonian territories
627
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:51,040
Okay
628
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,840
Yeah
629
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,760
The other scientists are in the temple
630
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,720
Still looking for John Claude when Pete arrives
631
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,280
In the chamber the team find bones
632
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,000
Specifically from Richard Conroy
633
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,920
The pilot from the cold open
634
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,520
Hector tells the team
635
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,600
The belief of his people
636
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,280
Hold that if you die in the water
637
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,960
You belong to the water
638
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,120
The team brings the bones of Richard Conroy to the surface
639
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,440
Which is when they meet Pete Hazard
640
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,040
Pete warns them that if they try to get their friend back
641
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,200
They will pay with their lives
642
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,360
Pete shows them the majority of a scar
643
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,160
Warning them that the creature could easily rip their flesh from their bones
644
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,480
He too was trying to rescue his friend
645
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,720
Pete is angry at what happened to him
646
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,880
And tosses a live grenade at the pyramid
647
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,840
Which detonates 30 feet short of the entrance
648
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,480
The others try to calm Pete down
649
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,320
Pete explains that for five years
650
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,560
He's been waiting to get his revenge
651
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,880
And now he finally gets that chance
652
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,480
The team humors Pete
653
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,640
And makes him the leader of the expedition
654
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,680
Under the condition that he can't use explosives
655
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,560
Because they want to preserve the ancient temple
656
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,120
They say that they can't go in just yet
657
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,440
Because they've already been down there for a long time
658
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,520
And they want to avoid the bends
659
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,560
So Pete waits on his boat until the team is ready
660
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,840
Now when Pete is gone
661
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,600
Able tells Delpho to call Barcellus immediately
662
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,760
So that they can get rid of Pete
663
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,920
Delpho tries to signal anyone on the radio
664
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,040
But there's no luck
665
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,600
The team meets in Bobby's cabin
666
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,800
The Delpho informs the team that someone has sabotaged the communication equipment
667
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,720
They conjure up a plan to at least get rid of Pete's explosives
668
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,640
When they do the dive tomorrow
669
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,840
Now the next day
670
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,720
Able, Jake, Bobby, Ciri, Hector, Delpho
671
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:40,320
And Pete are all searching the temple
672
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,960
Pete is the only one with a harpoon gun
673
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:49,040
Mary looks into Pete's boat to see that there is a rifle rigged to shoot anyone that enters his boat
674
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,320
So she just walks away, he still has his explosives
675
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,480
Able, Bobby, and Jake find a new section in the temple they haven't searched yet
676
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,760
The crypt
677
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,960
The chamber is narrow and long with a low ceiling
678
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,320
Bones scattered on the floor in the stone beds
679
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,280
Jake finds the corpse with flesh still attached
680
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,480
It's John Claude
681
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,640
There are slash marks across his face
682
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,240
Neck and chest, similar to Pete's scars but deeper
683
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:18,400
John Claude's flesh is waterlogged and his arm has been ripped off
684
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,280
Jake takes the body and swims it out of the crypt
685
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,080
Bobby finds his arm with a flashlight still in hand
686
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,000
And he takes that back too
687
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,640
They bring the body into an airlock chamber
688
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,320
And the others meet them there and they witness the carnage
689
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,880
They swim the body back to the surface
690
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,640
Ciri bringing up the rear
691
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,840
The creature is watching her from the distance
692
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,720
Later that night the heavy rain begins to pour
693
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:45,840
Ciri and Able can soul each other over the death of John Claude
694
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,960
The other team members review the footage again from John Claude
695
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,800
to see if they missed anything
696
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:56,880
Adelphal takes off on a boat in hopes to find any Brazilian authorities to take care of Pete
697
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,520
He says that he'll be gone for about two to three days
698
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,280
As Adelphal speeds down the river he's shot in the head by Pete
699
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,880
who is waiting for him on a small lifeboat
700
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,360
In the middle of the night, Ciri wakes
701
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,720
Unable to sleep
702
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:15,360
And heads that allow to watch the footage on Claude shot before the incident
703
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,920
She pauses the footage, notices something and immediately runs to Mary's cabin
704
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,880
Ciri interrupts Mary and Jake who were having sex
705
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,840
And Ciri asks for Mary's help
706
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,000
Ciri and Mary go into the dark room and grab the 35-millimeter film camera
707
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,440
Ciri goes into the lounge and takes a photo of the pause footage
708
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,680
Making sure to focus on the background area
709
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,200
And adjust the settings to make the exposure brighter
710
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,400
She then takes multiple pictures of what she had got
711
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,160
She develops the photo in the dark room
712
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,720
Takes another photo of that photo, makes that brighter
713
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,960
And she repeats this process multiple times
714
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,920
And in the final image, we see a blurry photo of an outline of what could be a fish
715
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,160
But in the shape of a human
716
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,600
Is that a thing you can do?
717
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,720
Keep taking photos of photos and to make it brighter?
718
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:02,000
No
719
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,280
As someone who has worked with film before
720
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,240
Can't really do that
721
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:12,720
Yeah, that would just make it poorer and poorer quality every single time
722
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,400
Yeah, no, this is the equivalent of zoom enhanced
723
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,680
Zoom in enhanced
724
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,560
Yeah
725
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,760
But the idea is there of they missed it
726
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,160
Yeah
727
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,680
They can kind of see it
728
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,040
I think it'd be better if you could pause the footage
729
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,040
Because I'm guessing this is all going to videotape
730
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,480
And then you can brighten the settings on the TV
731
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,040
Yeah
732
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,040
And then you could see it that way
733
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,200
I think that's a much more effective way to actually find that creature because
734
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:39,600
Sure
735
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,160
There is still some detail in the raw footage
736
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,600
But trying to get it out of like taking a photo
737
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,640
Taking a photo of that photo, taking a photo of that photo, I don't think it would work at all
738
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,720
But sure
739
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:54,640
They show the image to Hector
740
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,080
And he hypothesizes that this might be a shaman
741
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,760
A tribal medicine man
742
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,080
A man that takes the shape of a creature to defend the land from hunters and fishermen
743
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,120
The next day, Abel and Siri explore the crypt inside the temple
744
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,280
In the crypt, they notice hieroglyphics glorifying fishermen
745
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,880
The two explore even further and go down into the lower crypt
746
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,480
There, they find more altars with hieroglyphics
747
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,880
That show the man fish king
748
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,360
They examine the bones and find a hand bone with webbed fingers
749
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,840
They take some of the strange bones and swim it out of the crypt
750
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,800
But when they get to the door, the door is blocked
751
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,000
They try to push the obstruction but they're stuck
752
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,240
They look for another exit but there's no look
753
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:44,000
Above them, the creature is piling rocks on the exits
754
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,320
Siri and Abel are running out of air
755
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,320
And now have to share Siri's regulator when Abel runs out entirely
756
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,120
The light from above scares the creature away
757
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,920
And then the rocks are cleared away from the passage
758
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,560
And there to lend a hand out of the crypt is Jake and Pete
759
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,920
Before they leave, Siri points to the man fish skeleton and Jake grabs it
760
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,520
At the service, Siri and Abel embrace happy to be alive
761
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,920
The team looks at the bones of the fish man
762
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,880
All of them are puzzled while Pete feels vindicated
763
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,320
From beneath the water, the creature observes them
764
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,880
All the scientists are excited to study while Pete
765
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,280
Sates that this thing needs to be killed
766
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,560
The whole team just ignore speed
767
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,520
Siri, Bobby and Jake find and enter the round chamber of the temple
768
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,720
They all agree that they need to find the creature before Pete does
769
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:37,280
And then Bobby suddenly notices that Adolfo is being gone for quite a long time
770
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,880
We should probably be concerned about that
771
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,840
Do they address it later?
772
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,320
They don't
773
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:46,080
Siri feels around the wall and notices a secret door
774
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,160
They all push and get that door open
775
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,800
Hold that door
776
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,520
Yeah
777
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,600
Sorry, just go and I think you should leave for a second
778
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:57,120
Inside they discover a gorgeous undisturbed underground lake
779
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,520
They all jump into the lake as the unknowingly are being watched
780
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,040
The creature lowers into the water hoping not to be discovered
781
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,880
He swims away underwater when the group unknowingly starts swimming towards him
782
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,680
Their creature corals up onto a small island
783
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,680
And starts to transform and adapt to living on the land
784
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,160
Water pours from his pouches of his limbs
785
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,680
His skin changes color
786
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,680
He breathes air into his lungs
787
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,880
And his eyes rid themselves of fish lenses
788
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,240
He stands completely erect like he human in hides
789
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:32,560
Meanwhile, able, hector and Pete enter through the third pyramid
790
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,560
Pete is on for the harpoon
791
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,600
And they meet the rest of the team at the underground lake
792
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,640
The plan is to spread out on the lake
793
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Periodically, diving underwater until they find the creature
794
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,160
The creature hides on land and moves further away from them
795
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,800
They clear the lake and begin searching on land
796
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,640
Leaving their scooper gear behind them
797
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,880
The creature is ducking and running away
798
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,480
Black ink leaks from his head a natural defense mechanism
799
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,040
That he can't control whenever he's scared
800
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,720
Bobby's light stops working
801
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:04,480
He checks the battery and turns it back on
802
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,800
And reveals that the creature is right next to him
803
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,760
Bobby screams
804
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,920
And the creature claws Bobby's face fear and dives back into the lake
805
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,240
Hector hurries to Bobby's side to help him
806
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:15,760
But the cuts are too deep
807
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,080
And Bobby dies from the wounds
808
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,600
Pete shoots a harpoon into the lake and misses the creature
809
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,400
The others are concerned about Bobby but Pete doesn't care
810
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,520
And dives into the lake chasing the creature
811
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,680
The creature swims through a passageway and into the underground
812
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,800
Pete looks through the passageway and sees what he can describe
813
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,440
As a shrine to these creatures
814
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,840
Many of their skeletons on funeral, biore-like structures
815
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,920
Piled on top of one another
816
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,360
Some of them towering to the ceiling of the cavern
817
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,080
Pete is a gassed with what he sees
818
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,480
The creature swims away to safety
819
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,800
The group regathers at the Black Lagoon
820
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,120
Hector finds a vine that if ground up
821
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,760
The powder will knock out the creature
822
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,400
A remedy his village use for fishing
823
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,160
And with Mary's help she can make a lot of this powder
824
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,120
Both Pete and Hector are lowered in on ropes
825
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,800
Above the underground lake
826
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,120
And empties the powder into the water
827
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,600
They both wait with their harpoons ready
828
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,160
Jake and Abel ready themselves with harpoons
829
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,600
At the underwater entrance of the underground lake
830
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,920
Almost immediately, paralyzed fish begin floating to the surface of the water
831
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,320
Hector explains that they only have about an hour until the substance wears off
832
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,120
Just then, the creature swims in front of Jake
833
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,640
Jake fires and hits the creature in the stomach
834
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,720
Abel takes a shot putting misses
835
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:42,640
The creature swims away into the lake with the harpoons still in him
836
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,600
Hector and Pete both shoot and hit the creature
837
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,560
The creature tries to remove the harpoons but the paralyzing agent is too much for him
838
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,560
And he floats to the surface
839
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,640
Hector is about to capture him with the net
840
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,560
But Pete pulls out a net to kill it
841
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,480
But Hector points it on at Pete and thwarts his efforts
842
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,800
So he's not going to kill the creature at all
843
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,200
They capture the creature with the net and put him into a cage
844
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,080
The crew is in awe of the creature
845
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,360
The creature wakes up in a cage inside of a lab
846
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:18,880
The cage rests halfway in the water so he can submerge when necessary
847
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,680
He's not the only creature caged in the lab
848
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:29,680
There's also a jaguar, a howler monkey, a toucan, taper, perruco, lungfish, manatee, and a giant turtle
849
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,720
Mary is continuing with her experiments as Abel and Ciri enter the room
850
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:37,040
Ciri pities the creatures
851
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,880
In the lab is a giant mirror that the creature catches himself in
852
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,520
He's fascinated, figuring out that through his movements he's actually looking at himself
853
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,800
The creature notices that he's been watched in shyly backs into his cage
854
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,480
Trying to hide himself
855
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,240
Abel and Ciri notices that he has both lungs and gills
856
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:57,760
So basically he's Kevin Costner
857
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:03,520
Abel and Ciri seem to be getting closer romantically
858
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,240
The creature has been secreting black ink
859
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:10,080
First out of here but this time, now out of jealousy and anger
860
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,800
The creature starts slamming his fists on the metal bars because of the damaging and weakening the cage
861
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,440
The others enter the lab when they hear the commotion
862
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:23,760
Hector dips the tip of the harpoon in the vine solution and shoots the creature sedating him instantly
863
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,480
The team agrees that they need to leave as soon as possible
864
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,640
Ciri informs a very drunk Pete that the team is going to be leaving
865
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:38,000
Pete resists calling them all crazy and says that they need to work this out through him
866
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,000
In the lab the creature wakes up
867
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,320
Mary is still doing experiments and is too distracted to notice the creature
868
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,960
using a nearby broom to knock a pack of her gum on the ground
869
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,920
She goes over to pick it up and gets too close to the creature in which he slashes her neck
870
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,280
He lad is everywhere
871
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,640
He drags her body into the cage crushing her skull in the process
872
00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,200
Thanks
873
00:47:59,200 --> 00:47:59,840
Yeah
874
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,040
Hector enters the lab and sees Mary's dead body
875
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,760
Runs out of the lab, slams the door shut before the creature has a chance to attack him
876
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,080
The creature crashes the lab, causing a fire to break out
877
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,400
In a panic he grabs the cage and throws it through a window breaking it
878
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:22,240
The creature then begins throwing the mirror and they trapped animals through the broken window to rescue them
879
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:23,680
So it's really just a good guy
880
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:24,000
Yeah
881
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Ciri runs towards the fire with a fire extinguisher
882
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,680
But Hector turns her around
883
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,240
She narrowly dodges the escaping jag by her bite jumping into the lagoon
884
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,200
Hector equip himself with a tranquilizing harpoon
885
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,120
shoots at the creature in the misses
886
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,680
The creature jumps back into the lagoon right before Pete's eyes
887
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Pete stumbles as he manages to toss grenades into the lagoon
888
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,760
The flames of the research vessel grow higher and higher
889
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:57,520
Ciri and Abel try to extinguish as much of the fire as possible with a little to no luck
890
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,800
Meanwhile, Hector and Jake fire up the helicopter
891
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,720
Yes, they have a helicopter
892
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:08,000
They offer Pete a ride, but Pete stays behind stating that he needs to settle a debt
893
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,600
But he gets on anyways
894
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,200
Ciri and Abel give up in their battle against the fire
895
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,120
They embrace and kiss each other
896
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,200
Suddenly the creature bursts into the room
897
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,520
Pushes Abel aside and grabs Ciri and carries her away
898
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:22,960
Abel struggles to get up
899
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,600
The creature dies into the template with Ciri
900
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,160
narrowly missing being shot by a rifle
901
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,640
Pete is actually shooting at the creature from the hovering helicopter
902
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:38,320
Ciri is taken into the underground lake where she is finally given a chance to breathe
903
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,080
The men land the chopper, Pete, Hector, Abel and Jake
904
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,960
quickly strap on scuba gear and arm themselves and swim into the underground lake
905
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,600
The scene is dark and the men can only see what their flashlights illuminate
906
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,560
They inflate a raft and Pete and Hector position themselves in a portable boat
907
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,560
The creature holds Ciri underwater
908
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,520
He leans into her like they're going to kiss
909
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,240
But he actually breathes the bubbles into her mouth
910
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,960
so that she can continue to breathe underwater
911
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,880
The two dive down even further
912
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,920
The men peddle towards the grotto part of the lake
913
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,120
Light from the sun pierces through the cracks up above
914
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,160
The creature and Ciri swim towards the surface
915
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,120
twirling around each other like a dance
916
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,600
They make it to the surface and onto the land
917
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,160
The creature transforms to adapt here
918
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,560
He carries Ciri into the grotto
919
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:34,800
On the other end of the grotto the men split at the fork of the path against Pete's suggestion
920
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,440
Jake with Pete and Abel with Hector
921
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,920
Near the waterfall Jake sees Ciri
922
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,120
Dazed and tattered clothes laying on the rocks
923
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:47,520
Pete tries to warn Jake but he runs Ciri anyways and is stopped by the creature
924
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,920
Jake raises his arapune gun and shoots the creature correctly in the side
925
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,720
The creature roars in pain and chases Jake
926
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:59,520
Jake manages to get one more shot off before getting his head sliced off by the creature
927
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,720
Yikes
928
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:02,960
Yeah, the creature runs back
929
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,080
picks up Ciri and takes her further into the grotto
930
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,000
Both Hector and Abel hear Jake's short-lived scream
931
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,600
and they follow the noise
932
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:16,080
Hector enables split when they find the path forks
933
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,840
Hector discovers Jake's headless body and vomit at the site
934
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,880
While Hector mourns the creature claws Hector's back
935
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,800
crushing his spine Hector tries to shoot with his pistol and misses
936
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,280
The creature finishes the job by crushing Hector's skull
937
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,280
Abel meets up with Pete
938
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,840
They walk into the grotto passing by Jake and Hector's dead bodies
939
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,440
The water is getting deeper the further that they go in
940
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,840
And the path splits again and instead of learning from their mistakes
941
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,320
They end up splitting up the team again
942
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,920
And this time we follow Pete
943
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,080
Now Pete spots the creature about 30 yards in front of him
944
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,800
The creature is removing the harpoons from his body
945
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,320
While Pete gleefully aims his rifle at him
946
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,920
After five years, Pete can finally fulfill his revenge
947
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:11,440
Pete misses his target because he was actually aiming at a mirror
948
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,080
and not the actual creature
949
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,000
The creature was right next to him
950
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,520
and proceeds to grab his head
951
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,440
He crushes it like a melon
952
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,360
Pete's body is thrown into the water when he quickly turns red
953
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,200
All that's left is Abel
954
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,000
Armed with a harpoon, pistol and a knife
955
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:33,440
He spots Siri who is being entwined by a 45-foot anaconda
956
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,680
He shoots a harpoon at the snake
957
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,120
Empties his pistol and proceeds to stab the snake
958
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,760
The creature walks in on the dire situation
959
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,920
The snake doesn't want to let go
960
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,960
and proceeds to squeeze Siri even tighter
961
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,960
He pushes Abel out of the way
962
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,880
Causing him to hit his head on the rock
963
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,000
and knocking him out
964
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,480
The creature rips into the large snake
965
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,480
Siri is free with pieces of tattered snakes scattered around her
966
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,480
She looks at the heroic creature
967
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,120
and sees the harpoon still in a stomach
968
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,560
She pulls it out of him as if she was saving him
969
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,800
They both stare into each other's eyes
970
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,240
The creature gets up slowly and sinks into the water
971
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:15,120
Knowing that the two of them don't belong together
972
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,280
Siri goes to Abel and performs CPR until he comes back to life
973
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,240
They kiss with great relief that they're alive
974
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:25,760
And the creature watches them as they walk away
975
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,680
And that is the end of John Carpenter's
976
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,520
The creature from the black lagoon
977
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:32,480
Interesting
978
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,360
Yeah
979
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,880
I do find it really interesting that this is going down
980
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,680
The love story angle and this whole like
981
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,200
Love between a human woman and the creature
982
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,600
Which forgive me if I'm misremembering
983
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,120
But that's not really something that's present at all in the original
984
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:54,560
In the original there was the moment where K is swimming through the water
985
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:59,040
And the creature seems to be like following her
986
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,400
And in some way like lovingly wants to be around her
987
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,120
Yeah
988
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,000
But it has no intentions of killing her
989
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:06,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
990
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,240
But like in the last resorts of him trying to stay alive
991
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:14,800
He's like, I guess you're my hostage now and I'm just gonna take you with me
992
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,080
I don't wanna hurt you but
993
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:21,760
Yeah, there's the iconic poster image of the creature holding the female lead
994
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,960
But I just think it's interesting how that kernel of an idea
995
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,920
Grows with every iteration of this story
996
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,640
Because as I'm sure you're about to get into
997
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,160
You know, this is not the last movie that has been made
998
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,840
With the creature from the black lagoon
999
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,040
And it goes even more into the love story
1000
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,120
Yeah, it definitely pushes harder into it
1001
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,520
They went as on the nose as they could with the original film
1002
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,640
And yet also made it subtle at the same time
1003
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,760
Sure, but you could still tell that the creature was there too
1004
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,400
More so just defend his territory
1005
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,200
And that he was infatuated with K
1006
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,600
And just had never seen anyone like her
1007
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,280
And it was like, yes, this is who I want is her
1008
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:03,920
Yes
1009
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:08,960
Yeah, now this is the draft that Bill Phillips submitted back in May of 1992
1010
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,360
Phillips has said in an interview with universal monsters universe.com
1011
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,960
That there was a draft John Carpenter wrote after his draft
1012
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:22,160
That was pretty much the same story but Carpenter included a lot more scary moments
1013
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,000
The character Siri was actually named after his assistant
1014
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,920
From when he directed the movie, there goes the neighborhood
1015
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,960
The character Abel was actually named after the director Abel Ferreira
1016
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,440
Who is one of his favorite directors, he directed King of New York in Bad Lieutenant
1017
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,240
The one with Harvey Kytel
1018
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:44,800
Not the one with Nicholas Cage
1019
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,600
So let's get into what is this not get made
1020
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,600
Yeah, around the time of development
1021
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:54,400
Carpenter had just released a film based on another universal creature
1022
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,880
Memoirs of an invisible man
1023
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,280
Where have you been? Everybody's looking for you
1024
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,440
I'm here
1025
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:02,000
Sort of
1026
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,640
Now this film was not produced by universal and instead distributed by Warner Brothers
1027
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,040
Turns out universal doesn't have a copyright
1028
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,240
Uninvisible people
1029
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:14,480
If you can't see it, you can't copy right now
1030
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,480
Exactly
1031
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,480
Actually this is a side story
1032
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,440
It was my old roommate, we were at a com who extorted the other day
1033
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,640
And she showed me this action figure for the invisible man
1034
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,880
But I had a cover on it and I was like I really hope that there's just nothing in there
1035
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,680
And she opened it up to reveal like the costume of the original one, she's like yeah I was hoping for that too
1036
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,680
But
1037
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,280
So Carpenter was pretty much set up for failure when he took on the film
1038
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,840
The script was first attached to Chevy Chase to start in the film
1039
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:44,880
Okay
1040
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,200
When that happened, this pretty much turned into his vanity project
1041
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,360
And he took this project and made it produced by his production company
1042
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,520
Do you know the name of his production company is?
1043
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,560
I do not
1044
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,240
It is quite pretentious, it is called Cornelius Productions
1045
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:03,680
This is Chevy Chase's production company
1046
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,840
This is Chevy Chase's production company yet
1047
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,680
Now I'm curious if that's where the name Cornelius Haughorn comes from
1048
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,920
Which is of course the name of Pierce's dad in community
1049
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,040
It has to be
1050
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,960
It has to be your reference, 100%
1051
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,880
Yeah like it's Dan Harmon subtly making fun of Chevy Chase
1052
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,080
Yes
1053
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,400
After the script was purchased in Greenlit, Chevy was not happy with the script
1054
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,400
Enforced multiple rewrites in cause director Ivan Wrightman
1055
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,360
And writer William Goldman to leave the production
1056
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:38,880
Goldman was actually not paid for his writing and he had to file a lawsuit in order to get some money from Warner Brothers
1057
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,240
Wait, okay, slow down
1058
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,040
When did Ivan Wrightman show it up on this story again?
1059
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,480
I apologize if I missed that
1060
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,360
No, you didn't
1061
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:50,800
So this was the first director signed on to the project was Ivan Wrightman
1062
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,640
Before it was John Carpenter?
1063
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,240
Before it was John Carpenter
1064
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,600
Okay, okay
1065
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,680
Cause this is sounding like Chevy Chase Ivan Wrightman, this is gonna be a comedy
1066
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,840
Yes, that's kind of what they were going for
1067
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,680
So he left the project
1068
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:08,240
Two new writers were hired, it was Dana Olsen and Robert Collector
1069
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,680
When they were hired, they then attached another director to it
1070
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,240
This was Richard Donner to make this movie
1071
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,480
Because he had recently worked with visual effects on the Superman movie
1072
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,160
So they figured that he would be a good fit for the invisible man
1073
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,320
But he turned down the offer, probably where the script was like this is garbage
1074
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:31,280
Now it's not known who, but someone suggested that John Carpenter
1075
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,440
Should direct and Chevy Chase pretty much forced him into the position
1076
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,080
And after 18 months Carpenter worked on the script and did his best that he could
1077
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,680
With Chevy Chase's demands
1078
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,320
Now Chevy Chase at the time, he wanted to change his image
1079
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,120
From being typecast as Clark Griswold
1080
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,840
And wanted to be looked at as more of a serious actor
1081
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,920
And he figured that this movie would be his chance to show the world
1082
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,320
That he is a serious actor
1083
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,040
Sure guy
1084
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,160
Yep
1085
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,000
The film was a flop
1086
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,280
It was number two on its opening weekend
1087
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,000
Trailing far behind Wayne's world, which actually opened the weekend before
1088
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:18,960
Now this movie had a budget of nearly $40 million and only made $14 million in the box office
1089
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,080
In a 2023 variety article
1090
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,240
Carpenter stated this about his experience on working on memoirs
1091
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,040
Quote
1092
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,080
It gave me a chance to make a quasi-serious movie
1093
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,640
But Chevy Chase, Sam Nale, who I love and had a long time relationship with
1094
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,360
And Warner Brothers, I worked for them and it was pleasant
1095
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,040
No, it wasn't pleasant at all
1096
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:39,840
I'm lying to you
1097
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,960
It was a horror show, I really want to quit the business after that movie
1098
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,360
Wow
1099
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,760
God, I don't want to talk about why
1100
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,400
But let's say that there were personalities on that film
1101
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,800
He shall not be named who needs to be killed
1102
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,000
No, no, no, that's terrible
1103
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,360
He needs to be set on fire
1104
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,240
No, no, no
1105
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,240
Anyways, it's all fine, I survived
1106
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:57,440
(laughs)
1107
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,120
Oh wow
1108
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,320
Yeah, yeah
1109
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:01,600
Wow, okay
1110
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,280
It's pretty obviously he's talking about Chevy
1111
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,560
Oh yeah, absolutely
1112
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,840
Huh, somebody had a bad experience working with Chase
1113
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:08,960
On a movie
1114
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:09,520
Yep
1115
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:10,400
Interesting
1116
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,840
And then he stayed while working with him
1117
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,000
He was impossible to direct
1118
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,680
And that he would oftentimes refuse to wear his special effects makeup
1119
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,600
And remove it prematurely
1120
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,840
Ruining the day's worth of filming
1121
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,360
Shhh, shhh, shhh, shhh
1122
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:23,600
Yep
1123
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:24,640
(laughs)
1124
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,000
It is suspected
1125
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,440
That the commercial failure of memoirs of an invisible man
1126
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,400
Played apart into why Universal Executives
1127
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,040
Did not green light the creature production
1128
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,200
Another suspicion
1129
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,720
Is that Universal having just released Jurassic Park
1130
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,520
The idea of a small lizard movie coming out after a big lizard movie
1131
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,280
Was probably something that wouldn't motivate the people to go to the theaters
1132
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,640
Now according to Sandy Carpenter, which is John Carpenter's wife
1133
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,080
And producer, Universal never said no to the project
1134
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,680
But they did stop responding and never gave them that green light
1135
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:00,400
Hmm
1136
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,720
The attempts to make a new Gilman movie
1137
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,320
Doesn't stop with John Carpenter
1138
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,800
There have been multiple filmmakers that have taken a swing
1139
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:07,920
At the creature
1140
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,480
Around 1995, the dual
1141
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,440
Herschel Wingrod and Timothy Harris
1142
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,440
There were the ones who wrote trading places, Brewsters Millions, Twins
1143
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,280
My stepmother is an alien, Kindergarten cop and Space Jam
1144
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,960
They wrote a draft
1145
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,920
That was potentially going to be directed by Ivan Wrightman
1146
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,920
And Peter Jackson
1147
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:32,960
Now Jackson, he actually turned down the gig to make another monster remake, King Kong
1148
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:33,600
Yeah
1149
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:40,080
In 2001, after the success of the mummy in 1999, Gary Ross and his father Arthur Ross
1150
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,480
Were developing a reboot of the creature for nearly a decade
1151
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,480
Arthur Ross was one of the original writers of the creature from the Black Lagoon
1152
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:54,800
The reboot was one of the last scripts that he ever wrote before passing away in 2008
1153
01:01:54,800 --> 01:02:00,240
Director, Breck Eisner, who directed Sahara the Crazies
1154
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:06,720
And as the son of Michael Eisner was going to direct by wanting to make a few changes to the script
1155
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,760
Including a plot that included pharmaceutical companies
1156
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,480
Spilling dangerous chemicals into the Amazon
1157
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,600
Interesting
1158
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,680
That sounds like the start of the host, the Bong Joon Home movie
1159
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,600
Oh yeah, yeah
1160
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,840
So the plan was to shoot on location in Manus, Brazil
1161
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,280
The Gilman was going to be a combination of practical and CGI
1162
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,280
With a suit designed by Mark Crash McCreary
1163
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:38,720
He worked previously on Batman Returns, Small Soldiers, Galaxy Quest, Pirates of the Caribbean, Van Helzine, and Lady in the water
1164
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,680
Now Gary Ross was assigned as the producer for the film
1165
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:47,760
And after Eisner's CGI suggestion, Ross insisted that the creature be 100% practical
1166
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:52,800
Another potential director for the script was Karl Erik Rince
1167
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,960
Who did the gift in 2010 and also directed 47 Ronin
1168
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:02,160
The film was delayed during the 2008 writer strike and never got picked up after that
1169
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:08,960
Now to no surprise, Guillermo D'Otoro was interested in making his version of the creature
1170
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:14,400
When Guillermo was a kid, he always imagined Gilman getting together with K
1171
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,480
As the film should have ended that way
1172
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:22,480
Years later in 2011, D'Otoro collaborated with the troll hunter's author Daniel Cross
1173
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:26,560
To write a version of the creature where he ends up with his love interest
1174
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:32,160
D'Otoro pitched the film to Universal and was immediately rejected
1175
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:36,320
So Guillermo took his idea and pitched to Fox instead
1176
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,160
In the shape of water, one best picture and best director
1177
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,840
Yep, which is really weird in hindsight
1178
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:48,320
Like I just want to go back to the people who made the original creature from the Black Lagoon
1179
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,960
And just be like, "Hey, by the way, somebody's going to turn this into a love story and it's going to get best picture"
1180
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,280
Honestly, they're happening in my lifetime
1181
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,840
It is weird that it's a sci-fi movie that one best picture that never happens
1182
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:07,280
Not only that, but it's like a twist on a monster movie that's turned into a love story
1183
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:12,720
It's really bizarre when you kind of break it down to its most basic descriptions
1184
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,840
Yeah, that's true, speaking of bizarre things
1185
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,680
The Gilman did briefly come back to life in 2009
1186
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:25,360
After the Universal Studios theme park shut down their fear factor live show
1187
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,440
To replace the show was the creature from the Black Lagoon, the musical
1188
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,240
Which they moved to live first 2009
1189
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:33,840
What?
1190
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,840
There to attend the first show was Julie Adams, the actress who portrayed Kaye
1191
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,440
Lawrence in the original film
1192
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,880
The show operated until September 2009
1193
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:47,200
And was replaced temporarily with Bill and Ted's excellent Halloween adventure
1194
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,880
For Halloween hornites
1195
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,320
Unfortunately, a fire occurred during one of the performances
1196
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,040
shutting down the theater until it was repaired
1197
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,360
After that, the musical never returned
1198
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,200
In today, the theater is used for their special effects stage show
1199
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,080
The musical is loosely based on the original film
1200
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:11,600
But it's Universal Studios, so the show was introduced by a clip from the Today show with Matt Lauer and Meredith Yara
1201
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,920
Just a scary work of fiction, right?
1202
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,280
Well, maybe not
1203
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:20,160
Now, a new team of brave, brilliant and surprisingly attractive young scientists
1204
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:24,960
Headed back to the Black Lagoon to as they say right here in their press release
1205
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,000
Probe that deepest, darkest bowels of Mother Nature
1206
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,200
That sounds very painful
1207
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,000
You know, it does
1208
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,400
The expedition is led by Mark Buffett
1209
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,960
Some of the billionaire scientists, Graham Buffett, and included on this team of Brainiacs
1210
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,120
One, five, Lady Ictheoponcis
1211
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,120
You know, you think they put some pictures in the book
1212
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,240
They come off, come on
1213
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:46,960
Jeez, the team will investigate the mysterious recent deaths of many locals
1214
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:51,520
And try to explain sightings of a strange and perhaps prehistoric creature
1215
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:57,520
Just like the audience sees the characters Kay, Mark, and David traveling down the Amazon on the Rita
1216
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:02,560
Just like the film, but unlike the movie, the boat is captained by an Amazonian woman
1217
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:03,120
Mm-hmm
1218
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:09,760
The show includes the song's Black Lagoon, Sleimi, Prime Evil, and Strange New Hunger
1219
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:15,120
Mm-hmm The story takes a wild left turn and their revealed it creatures named is Gil
1220
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:20,480
Gil falls into a supply of human growth hormones in grows to be 25 feet tall
1221
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,680
And eats Kay
1222
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:22,320
Perfect
1223
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,280
The encore with the song Black Lagoon and the show ends
1224
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,480
(Music)
1225
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,480
(Music)
1226
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:34,640
(Music)
1227
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:44,320
Showing your planning to be so high, no fair terms of time for you to ever come back for life
1228
01:06:44,320 --> 01:07:02,320
(Music)
1229
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:03,920
I wish I would have seen this show
1230
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,120
Actually, it's probably somewhere online, I could probably look it up
1231
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:07,600
Yeah
1232
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,600
So another honorable mention is James Gunn
1233
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:16,480
During an Instagram Q&A he revealed that after 2004 it's Dawn of the Dead
1234
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,000
He was approached by Universal to write a potential reboot of creature
1235
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,160
But the production never moved forward
1236
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:29,440
In 2012 Universal announced that they hired David Kedginich to write the reboot the Black Lagoon
1237
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,200
Nothing came of the script, but Kedginich explained his side of what happened
1238
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,160
to Universal Monsters universe.com
1239
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:43,040
"It may seem hard to believe, but I have no idea if any of the script is being used or not
1240
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,200
That's a surreal part of writing for a studio
1241
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:50,480
They own what you've written and can do with it whatever they choose with new obligation to keep you informed
1242
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:59,840
I did two drafts a number of years ago, so I imagine they've started over since my draft did not in any way connect to the mythology of the Black Lagoon
1243
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:04,800
To the rest of the monsters in the universe stable the concept came after my involvement
1244
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:10,480
It's definitely the most commercial script I've done, but it's a shitload of fun to research and write
1245
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It was a ride through the kind of 70 style id-based horror iGrop loving
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This brings us to Universal's attempt to create the dark universe
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Dark universe
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Wait, I forgot to check is the tweet still up? Do you know about this whole thing?
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No, yes there it is. Universal marketing was quick to get their twitter profile set up joint
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May 2017 for at dark universe and it's just got the cast photo of who was gonna be and witness the
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beginning of a dark universe and that's it. That's all that's here because it never happened
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Who's on this castle? We got Russell Crowe who was being jekyll mr. Hyde, right?
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There's Javier Bardem, I don't know what Javier Bardem was doing. There's Tom Cruise which
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had something to do with the mummy. Johnny Depp, I don't remember what he's doing here and an actress
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who I don't recognize. Well she was in the mummy. Oh okay. She was the mummy. Oh she was the mummy.
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Yeah that is interesting. It's just funny how this is just like a weird relic and it's just
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still exists on twitter. That's great. So yeah the 2017 the mummy attempted to set up the multiple
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reboots that could have all connected together including Frankenstein, brighter Frankenstein,
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Dracula, Phantom of the Opera, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Invisible Man and of course
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Creature from the Black Lagoon. In the film there are a few Easter eggs that show a dismembered arm
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in a hand implying that he was captured by the prodigium because of the film's bad reviews
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in poor box office performance any plans to continue the dark universe were abruptly cancelled.
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So there is another potential for a creature reboot. Wait is this all you had for the dark universe?
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That was it for the dark universe. Okay because there is one thing because I did remember hearing rumors
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of who was cast to play the creature from the Black Lagoon. Did you hear about this?
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I didn't know about the creature. There is one like casting, I'll tell you this right now. Chris Evans
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in Scarlett Johansson is that what you're talking about? Yeah what I heard was that Scarlett Johansson
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was cast as the creature. Maybe that was people mixing things up. Yeah I believe so. Okay so here's
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what I found out. Chris Evans Scarlett Johansson they were rumored to be cast in the lead roles as Kay
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Lawrence and Dr. David Reed. Gotcha. As far as the creature goes we don't actually know. Okay.
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It's probably gonna be Doug Jones. Now this cast was rumored around 2015. I guess the dark universe
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was kind of being formed at that time but like no one really knows entirely. Yeah. But after the release
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of the Invisible Man in 2020 by Blumhouse Universal then realized that you don't necessarily need to
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make a dark universe all connected together. Yeah. Here's the thing Marvel is doing its own thing. Yeah
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they're connecting everything together great. But with the Invisible Man that proved to Universal that
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hey you can make just a singular story with this creature with this monster. Yeah. And because of
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that movie rumors have been risen to the surface again that's saying like hey Scarlett Johansson
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Chris Evans they can still make this movie. They can still make like a singular contained creature
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movie. I remembered one thing I think one of the reasons that it got mixed around when I remember
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hearing announcements about it of oh Scarlett Johansson playing the creature is because those
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announcements would have been coming out around the same time as that movie under the skin came out.
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Oh right. Where Scarlett Johansson is playing a weird alien monster thing. Yeah.
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Sort of. I think that's probably where like things got mixed around and people are like oh what if
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we make Scarlett Johansson the terrifying monster. Yeah. With the creature Universal is still
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gunning to make it right now as far as the studios are going. I mean nothing's being made right now.
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So unless a 24 if you want to take on a creature movie like by all means I would love to see that. Yeah.
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But as far as Universal goes I don't think we're going to see anything from them anytime soon.
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I mean I personally don't feel like there's much of a need for a creature for the Black Lagoon movie
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for a while because like the shape of water is already like a really good definitive take on the
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story like in the same way that like the invisible man is definitely much more straight horror but it is
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like okay we're gonna do a specific take on this movie and I feel like we don't need another
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specific take on creature from the Black Lagoon right now but you know maybe. Maybe.
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It would be interesting to see what they do if you reboot it both K and Dr. Reed in those positions.
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I think you can make an interesting story out of it but yes with the shape of water with how great
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that movie was it feels like that was the fresh idea that we needed that was the fresh reboot that
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we truly craved and it was a great one off movie self-contained movie and that's really what we needed.
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So as far as the reboot goes even though Universal didn't make it it kind of did get made anyways.
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Yeah absolutely. But as far as John Carpenters creature from the Black Lagoon would you like to see it?
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I don't know there is some interesting stuff in there but I don't think it would be something that I
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would like use a time machine on let's put it that way it's like yeah that'd be cool but it's not
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something that I would feel the burning need to make happen I don't know how do you feel about it.
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I don't know if I'd want to see this movie specifically but the part that really got me was the
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fact that there was a ancient temple underwater in which this creature came from and comes from a
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lineage of other Gilman creatures fish creatures that have in a way protected the Amazon.
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Yeah I mean all of that almost makes me think of the version of name or we see in Black Panther 2.
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It almost kind of has that similar you know it's the South American temple and everything.
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Yeah so I think that idea of like there's this underwater tribe that has been there for centuries
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that have been protecting the Amazon have their own established religion have their own temples
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I think that idea you can really run with and make something great out of it absolutely.
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So if anything I don't want to see this movie particularly but you can pull that element out
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and then you could run with that with the new creature reboot and it would still be fresh
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and it would still be different enough from Guillermo Doutoro's the shape of water to make a really
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interesting creature movie for sure yeah that's it that's John Carpenter's creature from the Black
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Lagoon all right well I guess that's going to go ahead and wrap up this episode so thank you
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Excited about what the subject is going to be for this one. Yeah, what are we talking about we are talking about the creature from the
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Black lagoon we are going to be talking more specifically about the John Carpenter
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Creature from the black lagoon, but we are going to touch on some other
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Creature features that may or may not have happened throughout the years that followed after it and even
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Project that happened before then that didn't fully come through very cool
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But before we do that, I just want to ask you what is your history with the creature with Gilman?
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I can't say that I've got a lot of familiarity with creature from black lagoon
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I've seen you know a couple of the universal monster films from that era
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You know, I've always been aware of creature for the black lagoon
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I watched that original one for the first time in preparation for this and
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I can't really say that it left any impression on me. It was just like yep, that was a thing
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I don't know it didn't really stick with me
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I don't really know much about the lore or about you know the potential for this
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But it really just feels like the creature for the black lagoon is just there to fill out the roster
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Maybe people will disagree with me, but just from how I felt about watching the movie and just kind of how I felt about
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Hearing about the creature in general. It's just like having another monster for having the sake of another monster
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Yeah, and I think your perspective may change when we go through the history
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Okay, okay, he's a pretty interesting
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Character a pretty interesting monster for sure. Cool. I know with my history
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I think very much like you like I recently watched the creature from the black lagoon for the first time
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But it's been something that's always been in this like guys
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I know both of us have been to universal you worked at universal for a little bit for a little bit
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Yeah, just the classic
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Universal monsters were always present were always there there was
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Frankenstein Dracula mummy invisible man hunchback in Notre Dame and
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The creature from the black lagoon
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Mm-hmm. They were just yeah, like you said just part of the roster that was just always there
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I know Karina Longworth. She did a really interesting series about
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Carl Lemley and how he got the
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Monster films into universal and how he got all that started and how universal kind of became the staple of
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horror films or at least the studio that became known for horror films yeah and
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For the creature he's just one of the few that are part of the lineup
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but the movie I can understand why it didn't seem like it had too much impact because
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This is again one of those movies were because they did it first
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there are so many other
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films TV shows that
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Followed up with it and kind of took the idea and then ran with it which is kind of why it seems like it doesn't seem like anything fresh or anything new
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Yeah, when it comes to that, but I know we've seen this plenty of times with the first ones like they walk so that
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So many other monster movies could run sure. Yeah, let's go into the history of the creature from the black lagoon
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But before we go into that history let's go into the lagoon of
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These the terrifying black lagoon of advertising yes
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And we're back let's get into this lore
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So the creature from the black lagoon it premiered in theaters on February 12
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154 although the film was in black and white while the rest of the Hollywood was mostly in technical or at this time
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It was presented in 3d which was pretty new technology
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The film presents itself as a movie from both the past and the future kind of making it timeless in a way
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This film introduced the world to the creature later nicknamed Gilman
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The part man part fish creature came at the tail end of the universal Karl Lemley classic monsters era
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That era was actually between 1931 and 1956
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So this was at the time that they were kind of declining into these cheap B-movie sequels
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They had a lot of forgettable add-on characters they were crossovers and
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multiple run-ins with Abbott and Castello
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So it's a miracle that this amphibious creature really stood out amongst the muck
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The idea of the creature came about at the height of the monster era in
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1941 when producer William Allen was attending a
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1941 production dinner party during the filming of Citizen Kane now William Allen
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He was actually an actor in
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Citizen Kane he portrayed the reporter Jerry Thompson
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Now in a conversation with Mexican cinematographer Gabriel Figueroa
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He told Allen about a mythical creature that lived in the Amazon River that was half fish half human and no it was not a mermaid
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About 10 years later Allen pursued the idea to make it into a film with Maurice Zim
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They created a treatment titled the sea monster now it doesn't make much sense just because he does come from a river
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But that's why rewrites are necessary. They modeled the story to structure after beauty in the beast a
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Proper script was then written by Harry SX who also wrote
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Man-made monster and it came from outer space the other writer was author Ross and they retitled it the black lagoon
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Now to direct Allen hired Jack Arnold
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He also directed it came from outer space, but he also directed
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Trancila and the incredible shrinking man. So this guy was known for a special effects known for his horror films as well
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Mm-hmm, and was coming off of the success of his latest film House of Wax
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Oh, which came out in 1953
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Because House of Wax was in 3D Allen wanted his film about a hybrid fish creature to be in that same format
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the
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Gilman suit was designed by Disney animator
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Melissa Patrick for nearly 50 years the creature design was primarily credited to the makeup artist bud Westmore
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Who left out her role in the production and Westmore was primarily in charge of just making the molds and not actually the design
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To make the body suit was makeup artist Jack Kevin now
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He also worked on Wizard of Oz Abbot and Castello meet Frankenstein it came from outer space and Abbot and Castello meet Dr.
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Jackal and Mr. Hyde
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while the head was sculpted by Chris Mueller Jr
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Who worked on 20,000 leagues under the sea and jaws -
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The men under the suit were Ben Chapman and Riko Browning Ben Chapman did all the scenes with the creature on land
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primarily shot on the universal studios back plot like every creature suit that we've covered on the show
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The suit was incredibly hot to wear
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Chapman would often request to be hosed down to keep cool because the suit was
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Formfitted to the stunt actors. They couldn't actually afford to lose or gain any weight during the production or the suit wouldn't fit anymore
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And for Chapman he couldn't sit down while wearing the suit
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The headpiece caused a lot more issues because Chapman couldn't see out of it
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And then one take he actually scraped Julie Adams head against the wall while he was carrying her through the grotto
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I was carrying Julie in my arms through this cave and she was you know slung over my arms with her head down
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And I couldn't see where I was going and clunk. I went wide into one of these artificial rocks
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And I had no idea what happens she started kicking in the end and they were yelling cut
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I can't say I was truly injured but it gave me a bit of a start
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You know first of all I'm freezing cold trying not to trying not to have goosebumps and the bump
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As there's a famous picture that appeared in a newspaper of Dick Carlson's
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Standing myself Jack Arnold and a nurse passing her up
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We took a couple hours off and Julie was ready to go again
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You know pull a makeup on it, but she was very professional lady
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Now Rico Brownine was in the suit for all of the underwater scenes
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Now while filming Brownine could hold his breath for about two to four minutes depending on how much movement that scene called for
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Brownine was first brought onto the production actually as a location scout
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Prior to that he was working on filming newsreels and specialized in capturing footage underwater
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He primarily worked in Florida and suggested that they filmed at a lake in
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Wakula Springs
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While scouting the camera crew did underwater screen tests and had Brownine swim in from the camera
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A few days later he was asked if he could portray the Gillman which he accepted and he continued to portray the Gillman in the next two sequels that followed it
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Brownine then went on to establish a career in the film industry working as a second unit director and a stunt coordinator
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Working for such films as Flipper Thunderball
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Around the world under the sea Caddy Shack raised the Titanic never seen ever again and police academy five just named a few movies
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Wow, yeah long and prolific career. He's got a really interesting career
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Yeah, but it's very much like how he's the director for John Wick
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He started off as a stunt man and then went on to be a second unit director for like doing stunts and then went on to actually like direct his own movies
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And that was yeah John Wick chance to Helski. That's who he is so with the box office success from Creature from the Black Lagoon
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It seemed like universal's creature features weren't losing their lustre
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So the sequel went into production under the title Return of the Creature
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Which then reworked into return of the Creature from the Black Lagoon
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Which they then settled on revenge of the creature that one came out in 1955
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Although it is implied that the creature was shot to death at the end of the first film the creature then returned
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Explained away by not explaining it at all
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The the filming location was entirely in Florida
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Although the location of the Amazon Lagoon changed to the St. John's River and the primary location was at the Maryland of Florida
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Which was the setting of the generically and redundantly named Ocean Harbor Oceanarium
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This this film was also the acting debut of a 25 year old Clint Eastwood
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Yeah, he portrays an uncredited lab assistant who has a rat in his pocket
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But there were four rats in there when I changed my lights
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Now there's only three
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It's my considerate opinion that rat number four is sitting inside that cat
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Are you sure you fed them all this morning?
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Sure, I always feed them
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How'd it get in here?
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Returning to direct was Jack Arnold with the film being shot again in black and white 3D
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To write the script they hired Martin Berkeley who previously wrote another Jack Arnold film Tarantula
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Like I mentioned before
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Rico Browning returned as the Gilman for any underwater shots
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But the above water shots was replaced with the actor Tom Hennessy
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This film more so follows the similar plotline of King Kong
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In which the Gilman is literally a fish out of water who is taking to a lab to be studied
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Taught how to communicate with humans and used as a tourist attraction
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In the end the creature is shot again and actually
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inserted the same shot of the Gilman like falling
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Lifelessly through the water so they reuse the same shot of him dying from the first film
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To show him dying again in the second film
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But then there was another film there was the creature walks among us
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This one came out in 1956
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Now Jack Arnold did not return for this third installment and instead John sure would it was hired
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And the movie was shot in 2D
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Returning was Rico Browning to do what he does best swim underwater for long periods of time
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And one of the writers from the first film Arthur Ross
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They use his treatment to create this movie
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That treatment that he created was called the creature of man
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Now the above water Gilman was replaced again
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This time the actor was done with going
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This is the film where the theme and premise really goes off the rails
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In this Dr. William Barton sets out to find the Gilman
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Which I guess he's still alive
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And they turn the creature into a land walker
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Now why would they do this?
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It was to discover how humans can evolve so that they may live in outer space
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On top of that the monster is completely changed after he's given surgery
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The scales are replaced with skin
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Which give the head and face a much smoother appearance
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And is monstrously bigger
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He also wears clothes now because it's cheaper to than make it a new suit
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This film wouldn't just be the end of the Gilman's run
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But the end of the monster era for Universal in 1956
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And like many of the other Universal Monsters
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Gilman had a run in with Abbott in Castello
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Well they tell us this is where they make all the horror pictures
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Oh yes you're Abbott in Castello aren't you?
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Yes yes
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Yes they told me you were coming down into the property
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And this is where we keep all of our horror figures for the horror pictures
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Yes they are Dracula
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And there's the Wolfman
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And there's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde but wait
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Wait until you see our latest horror creature
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Who is that?
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The creature from the Black Lagoon
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That one actually premiered on TV 90s after the very first creature from the Black Lagoon hit theaters
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So they were already on top of it
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Even though the creature was around for just three years
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Gilman has become such an iconic character
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And is considered one of the essential monsters of the Universal's classic monster lineup
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What's even more incredible is that most of the monsters are taken from other properties
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And established characters
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So like Dracula, Frankenstein's monster, Fanmuthy Opera, Wolfman
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The Gilman on the other hand is a completely original creature
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Made specifically for a Universal film
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Which means that Universal they own the rights to this character
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Which is why a lot of other studios
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They can use Dracula and whatnot
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But as far as the Gilman goes, like they have to ask permission from Universal in order for them to use that character
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Now attempts to bring back Gilman have been numerous
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The first notable attempt was with John Landis in 1982
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With the script written by Nigel Neely
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At the time he was best known for directing Shlok
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Animal House, the Blues Brothers, and American War of in London
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Originally Landis was going to step back
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And bring in Jack Arnold, who was 65 at the time, to direct this reboot
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In the script there would have been two creatures
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One destructive, and the other calm, insensitive
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And they would have to face off against the US Navy
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Landis also wanted to shoot the movie in 3D, like the original
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But the executives at Universal chose to invest instead into another 3D movie at the time
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Jaws 3D
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So that film never went through
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But in 1987 we did see the Gilman on the silver screen with the Fred Deeker film Monstersquad
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Now this creature was designed by Sam Winston
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Who changed the design enough to actually skirt around the copyright infringement
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But it was recognisable enough to know what creature we are looking at
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I would suggest looking up to see what this creature looks like
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Now this creature he created is honestly terrifying
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It has a piranha angular fish head with a scaly human body with fins
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Unlike the first Gilman when he gets shot he actually stays dead
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Although it is great to see the Gilman once again in a film
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Although he was not the star of the film
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And he was not affiliated with the Universal creation
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The next attempt and the primary topic of this episode is when John Carpenter
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Through his hat into the ring to reboot the creature from a black lagoon
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In 1992
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Universal's then president Tom Pollock told Carpenter
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"Look through our library pictures and see if there is anything you want to make
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The first movie John Carpenter would think of to reboot was the creature from the black lagoon
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Carpenter seemed like a great fit to remake this creature feature
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Since he's done this before when he made the thing back in 1982
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Which was actually a remake of the thing from another world
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Which was made in 1951 which was based on the book of the same name
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Yeah that's definitely what I was thinking of when I was thinking of like
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Oh yeah John Carpenter doing a creature from the black lagoon makes sense
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Yeah now to create the story
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Carpenter first read Nigel Nileys script that he wrote for John Landis
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Now this is a quote from Carpenter
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Nigel wrote a very interesting script
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But it was written for 3D
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It was also written 10 years ago
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And things have changed since then
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Where you want to start from the beginning
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We may use aspects of Nigel's work
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He wrote some pretty neat scenes but we're going to redo them
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Carpenter wasn't willing to work with Neely again after collaborating with him
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Prior on Halloween 3 season of the witch
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Carpenter described him as a "rascible" and "mean"
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To write the script and said Carpenter hired Bill Phillips
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Who would later work with Carpenter to make Christine Firestarter in LDablo
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Now Carpenter's hope was to make an R-rated modern day reboot
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From the 1992 Starlog magazine interview
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In which Carpenter explains what the film would be about
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Quote "There were several possible aspects to the storyline
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One of them involves the creature being the missing link between man and fish
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It would be interesting to combine that with a creationist scientist
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Who's trying to prove that man walked with dinosaurs 10,000 years ago
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They tried to prove that literal biblical origin of life
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In a total contradiction of scientific fact
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I think that's one of the interesting things about the original movie
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That it's talking about evolution and the evolutionary link and everything of fish being able to
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Evolve to grow legs and walk on land and everything
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It's kind of cool that this is like wanting to lean into that even more
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Yeah, you get that opening shot
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It's like that explosion shot which is supposed to be like the big bang
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In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
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And the earth was without form and void
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It's a little strange that the origins of all of the other universal monsters
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Or at least as far as I know are much more mystical and mythical monsters
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As opposed to this is like very much tied to like science and evolution and that type of a thing
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Yeah, I mean if you think about when a lot of these monsters were created
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They're kind of a product of their time
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With the Gilman like the evolutionary theory was starting to become more and more popular
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More and more recognized and it was being taught in schools
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So why not lean into it and be like what if from there you could create a creature from that
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So like I know with Dracula and vampires that came out of the fact that
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A lot of people were going into comas a lot of people didn't recognize it
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So a lot of people were getting buried alive
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And then the idea of like what if they came to life from there
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What would they act like what would they need and stuff like that
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And I'm thinking about Frankenstein
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Or if a science fiction than a mystical thing
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So it makes sense that we would kind of create a Gilman out of what we know at that time
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Continuing on from that Starlog magazine interview
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From John Carpenter again
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I would also love to work in a little love crafty and feel
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I'm thinking of the shadow over Innsmouth
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Fish mating with humans
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There has been a legend about a fish man
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So perhaps there was a race of them
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Living in the Amazon supposedly
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There are hidden pyramids in the Amazon
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I want to try to get that in there
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To create the Gilman Carpenter wanted to get the legendary special effects artist
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Rick Baker to create the creature
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Coincidentally Baker revealed that he actually signed on to make the creature
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A decade earlier when John Landis was leading the project
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From Carpenter explaining the design of the creature
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I don't want to make him unrecognizable
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I want the creature from the Black Lagoon
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However, I think he could look less rubbery
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His claws don't have to bounce like they did in the original film
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But essentially he's not really broken
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So why fix him?
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And then from Rick Baker
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We actually did a whole bunch of designs in Maccats
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My designs for the creature were kind of like my designs for the Wolfman
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It was very much a base on a love for the original material
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And trying to stay true to that in a lot of ways
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I think we had a creature that was updated
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But you still could tell where it came from
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You can actually look up Rick Baker creature from the Black Lagoon
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And you can see the full design
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Like he actually made a full costume of the creature
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You can tell it does stay faithful
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But it does like it kind of like trims
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Like the rubberiness for it
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For the original suit
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And really like hones it in and makes it look a bit more terrifying
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Like you can see like the eyes aren't like that weird goggle
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Eyes and they've like narrowed in
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So then that leads us to the plot of John Carpenter's script
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What have been like
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And this is what we're going to go into right now
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But before we do so
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We are going to get into the plot of these advertisers
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And we're back
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And let's get into the story of John Carpenter's
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The creature from the Black Lagoon
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We open on a wide shot of earth
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My guess is that this was actually the earth
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Using the universal logo animation
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And we push in onto South America
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Brazil
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We are somewhere on the Amazon river
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Following a small plane flying over the body of water
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Inside is the pilot Richard Conroy
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He's 38 years old American
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And a cartographer Pete Hazard
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He's a 46 year old Australian
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Pete Hazard
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Interesting name
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But a pin in that name
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The thunderstorm they're flying through
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Continues to get worse
375
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,840
The engine stalls and Richard attempts to restart the plane
376
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,880
But no luck
377
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,280
They crash land into a lagoon
378
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,440
The rain stops suddenly
379
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,720
Pete grabs his camera and starts snapping pictures of the wildlife
380
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,480
Pete is caught off guard
381
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,760
When he finds a pyramid shaped stone with hieroglyphics
382
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,520
Sticking out of the water
383
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,760
They take an inflatable breath onto the water and inspect it further
384
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,320
The stone seems to be the top of a temple
385
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,560
Richard explores further in piers through the opening of the top of the temple
386
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,400
When suddenly a scaly, webbed hand bursts out of the water
387
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,960
Grabbs his face and pulls him under
388
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,880
Pete paddles away to the plane
389
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,760
And tries to call a distress call on the radio
390
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,760
But before he can send out his coordinates
391
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,240
A large shadow casts over him
392
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,200
We cut to black
393
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,400
Five years later
394
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,960
A research facility has occupied the black lagoon area
395
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,600
Centering around the high-tech research vessel
396
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,440
known as LDablo 2
397
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,960
The long island MD Jake Heyman
398
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,600
Seems to be leading the expedition with his team
399
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,560
Abel Gonzalez who is a ichthyologist
400
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,400
A John Claude Gaston
401
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,080
A Delflo Pumventory
402
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,520
Bobby Whitaker
403
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,680
Hector Ramirez who is a botanist
404
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,160
And Mary Pearson who is a chemist
405
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,200
Bobby has found the plane wreck covered in foliage
406
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,600
Further inspection reveals that something more than a plane crash happened here
407
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,720
Abel is anxious to jump into the water to inspect the temple
408
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,200
But Jake states that they should do this right
409
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,600
And get an archaeologist first
410
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,480
At night the team inspects their newly developed photos
411
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,000
Hector says that the underground temple looks like an ink and pyramid
412
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000
What strangers that the structure looks like
413
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,240
It was made to be underwater
414
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,840
They are in need of an archaeologist
415
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,560
But it would take about a week until they get one on site
416
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,800
The team also takes in a wanderer
417
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,680
Siri Thompson who shares her story about how she was kicked out of greenpeace
418
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,840
for allegedly spiking trees
419
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,920
So they would stop them from getting chopped down
420
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,520
Do you know what spiking trees are?
421
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,720
No
422
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,920
This is a very deadly activist move to avoid trees from getting cut down
423
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,240
And the way that it would work is that you would actually plant metal spikes into a tree
424
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,280
So that if you start chopping it down and you hit that metal spike
425
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,720
Chances are that metal spike is going to shoot out of the tree
426
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,280
Which could potentially kill someone
427
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,280
For trying to chop down that tree
428
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,240
She says that she didn't actually spike the trees
429
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,600
She just put up signs that say
430
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,680
Hey, don't chop down the trees
431
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,880
They got spikes in them
432
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,360
Yeah
433
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:40,000
Yeah
434
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,280
Anyway, she allegedly got kicked out of greenpeace for spiking trees
435
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,240
She's trying to prove her worth to the team
436
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,720
Which they all agree that she can stay
437
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,720
But they need to run it by Mary
438
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,640
Able goes to the lab to find Mary
439
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,720
Who is constantly chewing gum
440
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,880
She's buried in her work studying LG
441
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,800
And acts like she cannot be bothered
442
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,160
She says Siri can stay
443
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,160
Later that night, Jake goes to series sleeping quarters to talk
444
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,080
He's obviously interested in her
445
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,040
Able interrupts their conversation in the two leave
446
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,160
And Jake formally welcomes her to Alderado too
447
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,840
That night Siri is unable to sleep and leaves her cabin
448
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,360
She peers into the lagoon and sees something swimming by the temple
449
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:22,320
Jake approaches unexpectedly
450
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,400
And tries to seduce Siri again
451
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,320
But she rejects all of his advances
452
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,320
We see the eyes of the creature underwater
453
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,840
And he's watching them
454
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,920
Able interrupts Jake again
455
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,360
Staining that he would like to go into the water to inspect the temple
456
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,040
Adelpho enters the picture
457
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,720
And Jake leaves defeated
458
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,240
A thunderstorm begins
459
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,240
And rain begins to pour
460
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,000
The next day Able, Hector, and Adelpho
461
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,600
Set up video cameras
462
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,600
Bobby and John Claude rig hydrophones onto Bobby
463
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,440
For when he dives into the water
464
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,480
Mary gets test tubes ready to be lowered into the water
465
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,040
And Siri notices a carving on the bow of the research vessel
466
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,600
Mary tells her it's a "karanka"
467
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,880
That Hector brought
468
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,280
It's supposed to ward off evil spirits
469
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,720
Now Siri goes to help John Claude with the hydrophones
470
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,720
John Claude finishes his cigarette
471
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,120
And flicks the butt into the water
472
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,280
Siri fishes the cigarette out of the water
473
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,040
And pockets the litter
474
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,040
I don't know if you remember from the first movie
475
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,800
There was like one specific shot
476
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,560
I believe it was Kay who was smoking on the boat
477
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,600
And she flicks a cigarette into the water
478
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,920
Which at the time was like not really a big deal
479
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,400
But like nowadays now that we're conscious of like
480
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,760
littering especially with like the crying Indian commercial
481
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,240
Yeah
482
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,680
I was like yeah, don't litter anymore
483
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,000
So like that was kind of a jab at that
484
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,680
Is be like hey don't litter the thing that we're studying
485
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,120
Or just don't litter at all
486
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,160
Yeah
487
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,040
Bobby and Able dive into the water with the equipment
488
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,840
The others watch the monitor above the surface
489
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,920
Under water they spot a pink dolphin
490
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,040
And a prana before reaching the side of the temple
491
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,640
They find more ink and writing in hieroglyphics of jag wires
492
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,000
And fertility signs
493
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,520
And a warning that translates to danger
494
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Bobby and Able resurface
495
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,880
But as soon as they reach the top
496
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,520
Able dives right back into the temple
497
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,360
In the temple Able spots a strange ancient scrolling
498
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,000
Old stern furniture, altars and a goblet
499
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,280
Which he takes
500
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,120
Just before he reaches the top of the surface
501
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,200
A large shadow casts over him
502
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,520
Luckily it's just a big fish swimming above him
503
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,280
More shadows cast over Able
504
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,760
Implying that he's been followed by something
505
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,440
He reaches the surface
506
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,280
And hands the goblet to the others
507
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,560
He wants to go back in but the others refuse for him to go back
508
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,280
Cause it might be too dangerous
509
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920
The team properly set up to go into the temple this time
510
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,200
In position the research vessel closer to the tip of the pyramid
511
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,440
The team takes off the top of the pyramid entirely for easy access
512
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,800
The team theorizes that the temple may have been built
513
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,280
During a dry period before it was flooded
514
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,400
But Hector brings up folk tales that he's heard
515
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,160
About underwater citizens
516
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,200
Now Hector, he grew up in a tribe south of where their research location is
517
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,760
Before he got his PhD at Harvard
518
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,000
The team prepares for another dive
519
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:21,200
This time it's Able, Jean-Claude and Siri going underwater
520
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,080
In the temple they find a primitive wall painting
521
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,920
Of a fish-like creature
522
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,200
Siri snaps a photo of it with Able posing in front of it
523
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,200
Like it's the tourist attraction
524
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,680
On the surface the team hears a scream
525
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,160
Down below Siri and Able notice that Jean-Claude is missing
526
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,760
Siri and Able resurface Able hands off his equipment
527
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,720
And dives back down to search for Jean-Claude
528
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,960
Able shines a light on the floor to find scattered bones everywhere
529
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,520
He unknowingly swims past and alter
530
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,200
The Siri swims behind Able to help find Jean-Claude
531
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,560
And then the shadows we catch a glimpse of the creature's eyes
532
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,680
Watching them
533
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,600
The creature seems to admire her
534
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,440
Able and Siri enter a sealed chamber in the temple
535
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,120
That doesn't seem to have any water in it so it's like air locked
536
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,160
The yell for Jean-Claude but there's no signs of him
537
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,680
The creature watches them
538
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,640
Able and Siri resurface in the whole research team
539
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,960
Reviews the footage Jean-Claude shot
540
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,840
To see if there was any clues of where he went
541
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,160
They watch the footage up until the screen
542
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,760
And the footage cuts out
543
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,840
They didn't figure out anything
544
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,840
We then cut to a government building in Sao Paulo, Brazil
545
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,720
Where we find Pete Hazard again
546
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,080
The Australian cartographer from the plane crashed in the cold open
547
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,600
He's now 51 with a scar that starts at his mouth
548
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,080
Continues down his neck onto his chest
549
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,640
Disappearing under his shirt
550
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,480
He receives a phone call from Hector about the location of the temple
551
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,800
Hazard seems to take this personally
552
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,040
He tells Hector to have the team wait
553
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,720
And do nothing until he gets there
554
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,160
And that he will not be calling a search team
555
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,280
Until he's certain that this is what he is looking for
556
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,120
Without hesitation he leaves
557
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,720
Lamping as he moves away quickly
558
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,000
Back at the lagoon
559
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Disobain Hazard's demands
560
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,640
Siri, Bobby and Abel dive into the temple
561
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,800
And continue to search for Jean-Claude
562
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,120
The three find themselves into a trapezoidal chamber
563
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,120
In waystep water, Bobby leads the team down the hallway on the left
564
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,000
But Siri diverges without telling them
565
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,080
And goes down the hallway on the right
566
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,080
As she enters into the new chamber
567
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,960
A dark figure seems to be following her
568
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,680
For the first time we see the full figure of the creature
569
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,280
This is actually a quote from the script
570
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Because there's like a whole paragraph
571
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,400
Just described in the creature alone
572
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,840
Just so that we have an idea
573
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,760
I know that can see the pictures online
574
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,520
But this is interesting like how Rick Baker interpreted this
575
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,080
Yeah
576
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,680
Half man, half fish
577
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,840
He's huge, powerful
578
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,560
This body is plated, covered with scales
579
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,880
Yet his skin is almost translucent
580
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,600
Areas of green broken up with
581
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,040
Multid colors
582
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,960
Silvery around his gills
583
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,800
His hands and feet are webbed
584
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,280
With huge claws with each digit
585
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,200
And his face, a fish mouth
586
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,840
And inside razor sharp rose of teeth
587
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,640
Used to rend and tear flesh
588
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,240
In his eyes alive
589
00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:22,080
Not simply blank fish eyes
590
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,560
But more human, glowing with cunning, emotion, intelligence
591
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,360
Hmm
592
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,160
Yeah
593
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,760
Definitely evocative
594
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,360
Yeah
595
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,720
Now the creature circles around Siri unnoticed
596
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:36,800
As she swims through the chambers
597
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,600
The creature reaches out and touches her ankle
598
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,560
She freaks out
599
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,240
Looks underwater to see what touched her
600
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:43,360
There's nothing
601
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,200
She keeps swimming and luckily runs into able and bobby again
602
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,800
And they all resummerge
603
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,120
Now obviously this is supposed to be a parallel
604
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,240
From the first movie where you see case swimming
605
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:55,360
Through the water
606
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,760
And there's the gill man just like
607
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,200
Infatuated with her
608
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,360
And it's like almost touching her leg
609
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,480
And then going away
610
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,920
And then like really touching her leg
611
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,680
And then like swimming away from there
612
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,080
Meanwhile, Pete Hazard pushes the limits
613
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,440
Of a rickety motorboat
614
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,840
As he speeds down the real negro
615
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,920
While the rolling stone sympathy for the devil is plain
616
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,480
Hazard is no longer addressed as a bureaucrat
617
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,160
He sports a cowboy hat in boots while smoking a hash pipe
618
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,480
In the cabin of his boat we see the supplies of explosives
619
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,960
A pistol and rifle with plenty of animal
620
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,960
Scooble gear, a harpoon gun, beer and potato chips
621
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,520
He randomly shoots at any wildlife to scare them away
622
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520
Pete arrives to the research site
623
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,040
Music's still blaring
624
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,040
Distracting Mary from her work
625
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,080
He really introduces himself as the department
626
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,240
Of in fucking terrier Amazonian territories
627
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:51,040
Okay
628
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,840
Yeah
629
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,760
The other scientists are in the temple
630
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,720
Still looking for John Claude when Pete arrives
631
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,280
In the chamber the team find bones
632
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,000
Specifically from Richard Conroy
633
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,920
The pilot from the cold open
634
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,520
Hector tells the team
635
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,600
The belief of his people
636
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,280
Hold that if you die in the water
637
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,960
You belong to the water
638
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,120
The team brings the bones of Richard Conroy to the surface
639
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,440
Which is when they meet Pete Hazard
640
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,040
Pete warns them that if they try to get their friend back
641
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,200
They will pay with their lives
642
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,360
Pete shows them the majority of a scar
643
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,160
Warning them that the creature could easily rip their flesh from their bones
644
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,480
He too was trying to rescue his friend
645
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,720
Pete is angry at what happened to him
646
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,880
And tosses a live grenade at the pyramid
647
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,840
Which detonates 30 feet short of the entrance
648
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,480
The others try to calm Pete down
649
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,320
Pete explains that for five years
650
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,560
He's been waiting to get his revenge
651
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,880
And now he finally gets that chance
652
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,480
The team humors Pete
653
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,640
And makes him the leader of the expedition
654
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,680
Under the condition that he can't use explosives
655
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,560
Because they want to preserve the ancient temple
656
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,120
They say that they can't go in just yet
657
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,440
Because they've already been down there for a long time
658
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,520
And they want to avoid the bends
659
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,560
So Pete waits on his boat until the team is ready
660
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,840
Now when Pete is gone
661
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,600
Able tells Delpho to call Barcellus immediately
662
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,760
So that they can get rid of Pete
663
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,920
Delpho tries to signal anyone on the radio
664
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,040
But there's no luck
665
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,600
The team meets in Bobby's cabin
666
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,800
The Delpho informs the team that someone has sabotaged the communication equipment
667
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,720
They conjure up a plan to at least get rid of Pete's explosives
668
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,640
When they do the dive tomorrow
669
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,840
Now the next day
670
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,720
Able, Jake, Bobby, Ciri, Hector, Delpho
671
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:40,320
And Pete are all searching the temple
672
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,960
Pete is the only one with a harpoon gun
673
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:49,040
Mary looks into Pete's boat to see that there is a rifle rigged to shoot anyone that enters his boat
674
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,320
So she just walks away, he still has his explosives
675
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,480
Able, Bobby, and Jake find a new section in the temple they haven't searched yet
676
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,760
The crypt
677
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,960
The chamber is narrow and long with a low ceiling
678
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,320
Bones scattered on the floor in the stone beds
679
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,280
Jake finds the corpse with flesh still attached
680
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,480
It's John Claude
681
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,640
There are slash marks across his face
682
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,240
Neck and chest, similar to Pete's scars but deeper
683
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:18,400
John Claude's flesh is waterlogged and his arm has been ripped off
684
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,280
Jake takes the body and swims it out of the crypt
685
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,080
Bobby finds his arm with a flashlight still in hand
686
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,000
And he takes that back too
687
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,640
They bring the body into an airlock chamber
688
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,320
And the others meet them there and they witness the carnage
689
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,880
They swim the body back to the surface
690
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,640
Ciri bringing up the rear
691
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,840
The creature is watching her from the distance
692
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,720
Later that night the heavy rain begins to pour
693
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:45,840
Ciri and Able can soul each other over the death of John Claude
694
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,960
The other team members review the footage again from John Claude
695
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,800
to see if they missed anything
696
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:56,880
Adelphal takes off on a boat in hopes to find any Brazilian authorities to take care of Pete
697
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,520
He says that he'll be gone for about two to three days
698
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,280
As Adelphal speeds down the river he's shot in the head by Pete
699
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,880
who is waiting for him on a small lifeboat
700
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,360
In the middle of the night, Ciri wakes
701
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,720
Unable to sleep
702
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:15,360
And heads that allow to watch the footage on Claude shot before the incident
703
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,920
She pauses the footage, notices something and immediately runs to Mary's cabin
704
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,880
Ciri interrupts Mary and Jake who were having sex
705
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,840
And Ciri asks for Mary's help
706
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,000
Ciri and Mary go into the dark room and grab the 35-millimeter film camera
707
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,440
Ciri goes into the lounge and takes a photo of the pause footage
708
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,680
Making sure to focus on the background area
709
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,200
And adjust the settings to make the exposure brighter
710
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,400
She then takes multiple pictures of what she had got
711
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,160
She develops the photo in the dark room
712
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,720
Takes another photo of that photo, makes that brighter
713
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,960
And she repeats this process multiple times
714
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,920
And in the final image, we see a blurry photo of an outline of what could be a fish
715
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,160
But in the shape of a human
716
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,600
Is that a thing you can do?
717
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,720
Keep taking photos of photos and to make it brighter?
718
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:02,000
No
719
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,280
As someone who has worked with film before
720
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,240
Can't really do that
721
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:12,720
Yeah, that would just make it poorer and poorer quality every single time
722
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,400
Yeah, no, this is the equivalent of zoom enhanced
723
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,680
Zoom in enhanced
724
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,560
Yeah
725
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,760
But the idea is there of they missed it
726
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,160
Yeah
727
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,680
They can kind of see it
728
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,040
I think it'd be better if you could pause the footage
729
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,040
Because I'm guessing this is all going to videotape
730
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,480
And then you can brighten the settings on the TV
731
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,040
Yeah
732
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,040
And then you could see it that way
733
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,200
I think that's a much more effective way to actually find that creature because
734
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:39,600
Sure
735
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,160
There is still some detail in the raw footage
736
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,600
But trying to get it out of like taking a photo
737
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,640
Taking a photo of that photo, taking a photo of that photo, I don't think it would work at all
738
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,720
But sure
739
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:54,640
They show the image to Hector
740
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,080
And he hypothesizes that this might be a shaman
741
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,760
A tribal medicine man
742
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,080
A man that takes the shape of a creature to defend the land from hunters and fishermen
743
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,120
The next day, Abel and Siri explore the crypt inside the temple
744
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,280
In the crypt, they notice hieroglyphics glorifying fishermen
745
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,880
The two explore even further and go down into the lower crypt
746
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,480
There, they find more altars with hieroglyphics
747
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,880
That show the man fish king
748
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,360
They examine the bones and find a hand bone with webbed fingers
749
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,840
They take some of the strange bones and swim it out of the crypt
750
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,800
But when they get to the door, the door is blocked
751
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,000
They try to push the obstruction but they're stuck
752
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,240
They look for another exit but there's no look
753
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:44,000
Above them, the creature is piling rocks on the exits
754
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,320
Siri and Abel are running out of air
755
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,320
And now have to share Siri's regulator when Abel runs out entirely
756
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,120
The light from above scares the creature away
757
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,920
And then the rocks are cleared away from the passage
758
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,560
And there to lend a hand out of the crypt is Jake and Pete
759
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,920
Before they leave, Siri points to the man fish skeleton and Jake grabs it
760
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,520
At the service, Siri and Abel embrace happy to be alive
761
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,920
The team looks at the bones of the fish man
762
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,880
All of them are puzzled while Pete feels vindicated
763
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,320
From beneath the water, the creature observes them
764
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,880
All the scientists are excited to study while Pete
765
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,280
Sates that this thing needs to be killed
766
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,560
The whole team just ignore speed
767
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,520
Siri, Bobby and Jake find and enter the round chamber of the temple
768
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,720
They all agree that they need to find the creature before Pete does
769
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:37,280
And then Bobby suddenly notices that Adolfo is being gone for quite a long time
770
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,880
We should probably be concerned about that
771
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,840
Do they address it later?
772
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,320
They don't
773
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:46,080
Siri feels around the wall and notices a secret door
774
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,160
They all push and get that door open
775
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,800
Hold that door
776
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,520
Yeah
777
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,600
Sorry, just go and I think you should leave for a second
778
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:57,120
Inside they discover a gorgeous undisturbed underground lake
779
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,520
They all jump into the lake as the unknowingly are being watched
780
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,040
The creature lowers into the water hoping not to be discovered
781
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,880
He swims away underwater when the group unknowingly starts swimming towards him
782
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,680
Their creature corals up onto a small island
783
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,680
And starts to transform and adapt to living on the land
784
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,160
Water pours from his pouches of his limbs
785
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,680
His skin changes color
786
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,680
He breathes air into his lungs
787
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,880
And his eyes rid themselves of fish lenses
788
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,240
He stands completely erect like he human in hides
789
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:32,560
Meanwhile, able, hector and Pete enter through the third pyramid
790
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,560
Pete is on for the harpoon
791
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,600
And they meet the rest of the team at the underground lake
792
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,640
The plan is to spread out on the lake
793
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Periodically, diving underwater until they find the creature
794
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,160
The creature hides on land and moves further away from them
795
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,800
They clear the lake and begin searching on land
796
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,640
Leaving their scooper gear behind them
797
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,880
The creature is ducking and running away
798
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,480
Black ink leaks from his head a natural defense mechanism
799
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,040
That he can't control whenever he's scared
800
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,720
Bobby's light stops working
801
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:04,480
He checks the battery and turns it back on
802
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,800
And reveals that the creature is right next to him
803
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,760
Bobby screams
804
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,920
And the creature claws Bobby's face fear and dives back into the lake
805
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,240
Hector hurries to Bobby's side to help him
806
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:15,760
But the cuts are too deep
807
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,080
And Bobby dies from the wounds
808
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,600
Pete shoots a harpoon into the lake and misses the creature
809
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,400
The others are concerned about Bobby but Pete doesn't care
810
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,520
And dives into the lake chasing the creature
811
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,680
The creature swims through a passageway and into the underground
812
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,800
Pete looks through the passageway and sees what he can describe
813
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,440
As a shrine to these creatures
814
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,840
Many of their skeletons on funeral, biore-like structures
815
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,920
Piled on top of one another
816
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,360
Some of them towering to the ceiling of the cavern
817
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,080
Pete is a gassed with what he sees
818
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,480
The creature swims away to safety
819
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,800
The group regathers at the Black Lagoon
820
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,120
Hector finds a vine that if ground up
821
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,760
The powder will knock out the creature
822
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,400
A remedy his village use for fishing
823
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,160
And with Mary's help she can make a lot of this powder
824
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,120
Both Pete and Hector are lowered in on ropes
825
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,800
Above the underground lake
826
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,120
And empties the powder into the water
827
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,600
They both wait with their harpoons ready
828
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,160
Jake and Abel ready themselves with harpoons
829
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,600
At the underwater entrance of the underground lake
830
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,920
Almost immediately, paralyzed fish begin floating to the surface of the water
831
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,320
Hector explains that they only have about an hour until the substance wears off
832
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,120
Just then, the creature swims in front of Jake
833
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,640
Jake fires and hits the creature in the stomach
834
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,720
Abel takes a shot putting misses
835
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:42,640
The creature swims away into the lake with the harpoons still in him
836
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,600
Hector and Pete both shoot and hit the creature
837
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,560
The creature tries to remove the harpoons but the paralyzing agent is too much for him
838
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,560
And he floats to the surface
839
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,640
Hector is about to capture him with the net
840
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,560
But Pete pulls out a net to kill it
841
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,480
But Hector points it on at Pete and thwarts his efforts
842
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,800
So he's not going to kill the creature at all
843
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,200
They capture the creature with the net and put him into a cage
844
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,080
The crew is in awe of the creature
845
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,360
The creature wakes up in a cage inside of a lab
846
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:18,880
The cage rests halfway in the water so he can submerge when necessary
847
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,680
He's not the only creature caged in the lab
848
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:29,680
There's also a jaguar, a howler monkey, a toucan, taper, perruco, lungfish, manatee, and a giant turtle
849
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,720
Mary is continuing with her experiments as Abel and Ciri enter the room
850
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:37,040
Ciri pities the creatures
851
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,880
In the lab is a giant mirror that the creature catches himself in
852
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,520
He's fascinated, figuring out that through his movements he's actually looking at himself
853
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,800
The creature notices that he's been watched in shyly backs into his cage
854
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,480
Trying to hide himself
855
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,240
Abel and Ciri notices that he has both lungs and gills
856
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:57,760
So basically he's Kevin Costner
857
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:03,520
Abel and Ciri seem to be getting closer romantically
858
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,240
The creature has been secreting black ink
859
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:10,080
First out of here but this time, now out of jealousy and anger
860
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,800
The creature starts slamming his fists on the metal bars because of the damaging and weakening the cage
861
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,440
The others enter the lab when they hear the commotion
862
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:23,760
Hector dips the tip of the harpoon in the vine solution and shoots the creature sedating him instantly
863
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,480
The team agrees that they need to leave as soon as possible
864
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,640
Ciri informs a very drunk Pete that the team is going to be leaving
865
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:38,000
Pete resists calling them all crazy and says that they need to work this out through him
866
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,000
In the lab the creature wakes up
867
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,320
Mary is still doing experiments and is too distracted to notice the creature
868
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,960
using a nearby broom to knock a pack of her gum on the ground
869
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,920
She goes over to pick it up and gets too close to the creature in which he slashes her neck
870
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,280
He lad is everywhere
871
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,640
He drags her body into the cage crushing her skull in the process
872
00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,200
Thanks
873
00:47:59,200 --> 00:47:59,840
Yeah
874
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,040
Hector enters the lab and sees Mary's dead body
875
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,760
Runs out of the lab, slams the door shut before the creature has a chance to attack him
876
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,080
The creature crashes the lab, causing a fire to break out
877
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,400
In a panic he grabs the cage and throws it through a window breaking it
878
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:22,240
The creature then begins throwing the mirror and they trapped animals through the broken window to rescue them
879
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:23,680
So it's really just a good guy
880
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:24,000
Yeah
881
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Ciri runs towards the fire with a fire extinguisher
882
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,680
But Hector turns her around
883
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,240
She narrowly dodges the escaping jag by her bite jumping into the lagoon
884
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,200
Hector equip himself with a tranquilizing harpoon
885
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,120
shoots at the creature in the misses
886
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,680
The creature jumps back into the lagoon right before Pete's eyes
887
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Pete stumbles as he manages to toss grenades into the lagoon
888
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,760
The flames of the research vessel grow higher and higher
889
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:57,520
Ciri and Abel try to extinguish as much of the fire as possible with a little to no luck
890
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,800
Meanwhile, Hector and Jake fire up the helicopter
891
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,720
Yes, they have a helicopter
892
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:08,000
They offer Pete a ride, but Pete stays behind stating that he needs to settle a debt
893
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,600
But he gets on anyways
894
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,200
Ciri and Abel give up in their battle against the fire
895
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,120
They embrace and kiss each other
896
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,200
Suddenly the creature bursts into the room
897
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,520
Pushes Abel aside and grabs Ciri and carries her away
898
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:22,960
Abel struggles to get up
899
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,600
The creature dies into the template with Ciri
900
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,160
narrowly missing being shot by a rifle
901
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,640
Pete is actually shooting at the creature from the hovering helicopter
902
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:38,320
Ciri is taken into the underground lake where she is finally given a chance to breathe
903
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,080
The men land the chopper, Pete, Hector, Abel and Jake
904
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,960
quickly strap on scuba gear and arm themselves and swim into the underground lake
905
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,600
The scene is dark and the men can only see what their flashlights illuminate
906
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,560
They inflate a raft and Pete and Hector position themselves in a portable boat
907
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,560
The creature holds Ciri underwater
908
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,520
He leans into her like they're going to kiss
909
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,240
But he actually breathes the bubbles into her mouth
910
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,960
so that she can continue to breathe underwater
911
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,880
The two dive down even further
912
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,920
The men peddle towards the grotto part of the lake
913
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,120
Light from the sun pierces through the cracks up above
914
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,160
The creature and Ciri swim towards the surface
915
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,120
twirling around each other like a dance
916
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,600
They make it to the surface and onto the land
917
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,160
The creature transforms to adapt here
918
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,560
He carries Ciri into the grotto
919
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:34,800
On the other end of the grotto the men split at the fork of the path against Pete's suggestion
920
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,440
Jake with Pete and Abel with Hector
921
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,920
Near the waterfall Jake sees Ciri
922
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,120
Dazed and tattered clothes laying on the rocks
923
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:47,520
Pete tries to warn Jake but he runs Ciri anyways and is stopped by the creature
924
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,920
Jake raises his arapune gun and shoots the creature correctly in the side
925
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,720
The creature roars in pain and chases Jake
926
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:59,520
Jake manages to get one more shot off before getting his head sliced off by the creature
927
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,720
Yikes
928
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:02,960
Yeah, the creature runs back
929
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,080
picks up Ciri and takes her further into the grotto
930
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,000
Both Hector and Abel hear Jake's short-lived scream
931
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,600
and they follow the noise
932
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:16,080
Hector enables split when they find the path forks
933
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,840
Hector discovers Jake's headless body and vomit at the site
934
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,880
While Hector mourns the creature claws Hector's back
935
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,800
crushing his spine Hector tries to shoot with his pistol and misses
936
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,280
The creature finishes the job by crushing Hector's skull
937
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,280
Abel meets up with Pete
938
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,840
They walk into the grotto passing by Jake and Hector's dead bodies
939
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,440
The water is getting deeper the further that they go in
940
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,840
And the path splits again and instead of learning from their mistakes
941
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,320
They end up splitting up the team again
942
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,920
And this time we follow Pete
943
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,080
Now Pete spots the creature about 30 yards in front of him
944
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,800
The creature is removing the harpoons from his body
945
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,320
While Pete gleefully aims his rifle at him
946
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,920
After five years, Pete can finally fulfill his revenge
947
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:11,440
Pete misses his target because he was actually aiming at a mirror
948
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,080
and not the actual creature
949
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,000
The creature was right next to him
950
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,520
and proceeds to grab his head
951
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,440
He crushes it like a melon
952
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,360
Pete's body is thrown into the water when he quickly turns red
953
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,200
All that's left is Abel
954
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,000
Armed with a harpoon, pistol and a knife
955
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:33,440
He spots Siri who is being entwined by a 45-foot anaconda
956
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,680
He shoots a harpoon at the snake
957
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,120
Empties his pistol and proceeds to stab the snake
958
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,760
The creature walks in on the dire situation
959
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,920
The snake doesn't want to let go
960
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,960
and proceeds to squeeze Siri even tighter
961
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,960
He pushes Abel out of the way
962
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,880
Causing him to hit his head on the rock
963
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,000
and knocking him out
964
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,480
The creature rips into the large snake
965
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,480
Siri is free with pieces of tattered snakes scattered around her
966
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,480
She looks at the heroic creature
967
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,120
and sees the harpoon still in a stomach
968
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,560
She pulls it out of him as if she was saving him
969
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,800
They both stare into each other's eyes
970
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,240
The creature gets up slowly and sinks into the water
971
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:15,120
Knowing that the two of them don't belong together
972
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,280
Siri goes to Abel and performs CPR until he comes back to life
973
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,240
They kiss with great relief that they're alive
974
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:25,760
And the creature watches them as they walk away
975
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,680
And that is the end of John Carpenter's
976
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,520
The creature from the black lagoon
977
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:32,480
Interesting
978
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,360
Yeah
979
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,880
I do find it really interesting that this is going down
980
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,680
The love story angle and this whole like
981
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,200
Love between a human woman and the creature
982
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,600
Which forgive me if I'm misremembering
983
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,120
But that's not really something that's present at all in the original
984
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:54,560
In the original there was the moment where K is swimming through the water
985
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:59,040
And the creature seems to be like following her
986
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,400
And in some way like lovingly wants to be around her
987
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,120
Yeah
988
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,000
But it has no intentions of killing her
989
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:06,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
990
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,240
But like in the last resorts of him trying to stay alive
991
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:14,800
He's like, I guess you're my hostage now and I'm just gonna take you with me
992
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,080
I don't wanna hurt you but
993
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:21,760
Yeah, there's the iconic poster image of the creature holding the female lead
994
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,960
But I just think it's interesting how that kernel of an idea
995
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,920
Grows with every iteration of this story
996
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,640
Because as I'm sure you're about to get into
997
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,160
You know, this is not the last movie that has been made
998
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,840
With the creature from the black lagoon
999
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,040
And it goes even more into the love story
1000
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,120
Yeah, it definitely pushes harder into it
1001
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,520
They went as on the nose as they could with the original film
1002
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,640
And yet also made it subtle at the same time
1003
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,760
Sure, but you could still tell that the creature was there too
1004
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,400
More so just defend his territory
1005
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,200
And that he was infatuated with K
1006
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,600
And just had never seen anyone like her
1007
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,280
And it was like, yes, this is who I want is her
1008
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:03,920
Yes
1009
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:08,960
Yeah, now this is the draft that Bill Phillips submitted back in May of 1992
1010
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,360
Phillips has said in an interview with universal monsters universe.com
1011
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,960
That there was a draft John Carpenter wrote after his draft
1012
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:22,160
That was pretty much the same story but Carpenter included a lot more scary moments
1013
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,000
The character Siri was actually named after his assistant
1014
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,920
From when he directed the movie, there goes the neighborhood
1015
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,960
The character Abel was actually named after the director Abel Ferreira
1016
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,440
Who is one of his favorite directors, he directed King of New York in Bad Lieutenant
1017
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,240
The one with Harvey Kytel
1018
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:44,800
Not the one with Nicholas Cage
1019
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,600
So let's get into what is this not get made
1020
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,600
Yeah, around the time of development
1021
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:54,400
Carpenter had just released a film based on another universal creature
1022
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,880
Memoirs of an invisible man
1023
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,280
Where have you been? Everybody's looking for you
1024
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,440
I'm here
1025
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:02,000
Sort of
1026
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,640
Now this film was not produced by universal and instead distributed by Warner Brothers
1027
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,040
Turns out universal doesn't have a copyright
1028
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,240
Uninvisible people
1029
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:14,480
If you can't see it, you can't copy right now
1030
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,480
Exactly
1031
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,480
Actually this is a side story
1032
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,440
It was my old roommate, we were at a com who extorted the other day
1033
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,640
And she showed me this action figure for the invisible man
1034
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,880
But I had a cover on it and I was like I really hope that there's just nothing in there
1035
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,680
And she opened it up to reveal like the costume of the original one, she's like yeah I was hoping for that too
1036
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,680
But
1037
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,280
So Carpenter was pretty much set up for failure when he took on the film
1038
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,840
The script was first attached to Chevy Chase to start in the film
1039
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:44,880
Okay
1040
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,200
When that happened, this pretty much turned into his vanity project
1041
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,360
And he took this project and made it produced by his production company
1042
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,520
Do you know the name of his production company is?
1043
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,560
I do not
1044
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,240
It is quite pretentious, it is called Cornelius Productions
1045
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:03,680
This is Chevy Chase's production company
1046
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,840
This is Chevy Chase's production company yet
1047
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,680
Now I'm curious if that's where the name Cornelius Haughorn comes from
1048
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,920
Which is of course the name of Pierce's dad in community
1049
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,040
It has to be
1050
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,960
It has to be your reference, 100%
1051
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,880
Yeah like it's Dan Harmon subtly making fun of Chevy Chase
1052
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,080
Yes
1053
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,400
After the script was purchased in Greenlit, Chevy was not happy with the script
1054
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,400
Enforced multiple rewrites in cause director Ivan Wrightman
1055
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,360
And writer William Goldman to leave the production
1056
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:38,880
Goldman was actually not paid for his writing and he had to file a lawsuit in order to get some money from Warner Brothers
1057
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,240
Wait, okay, slow down
1058
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,040
When did Ivan Wrightman show it up on this story again?
1059
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,480
I apologize if I missed that
1060
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,360
No, you didn't
1061
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:50,800
So this was the first director signed on to the project was Ivan Wrightman
1062
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,640
Before it was John Carpenter?
1063
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,240
Before it was John Carpenter
1064
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,600
Okay, okay
1065
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,680
Cause this is sounding like Chevy Chase Ivan Wrightman, this is gonna be a comedy
1066
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,840
Yes, that's kind of what they were going for
1067
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,680
So he left the project
1068
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:08,240
Two new writers were hired, it was Dana Olsen and Robert Collector
1069
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,680
When they were hired, they then attached another director to it
1070
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,240
This was Richard Donner to make this movie
1071
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,480
Because he had recently worked with visual effects on the Superman movie
1072
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,160
So they figured that he would be a good fit for the invisible man
1073
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,320
But he turned down the offer, probably where the script was like this is garbage
1074
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:31,280
Now it's not known who, but someone suggested that John Carpenter
1075
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,440
Should direct and Chevy Chase pretty much forced him into the position
1076
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,080
And after 18 months Carpenter worked on the script and did his best that he could
1077
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,680
With Chevy Chase's demands
1078
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,320
Now Chevy Chase at the time, he wanted to change his image
1079
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,120
From being typecast as Clark Griswold
1080
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,840
And wanted to be looked at as more of a serious actor
1081
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,920
And he figured that this movie would be his chance to show the world
1082
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,320
That he is a serious actor
1083
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,040
Sure guy
1084
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,160
Yep
1085
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,000
The film was a flop
1086
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,280
It was number two on its opening weekend
1087
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,000
Trailing far behind Wayne's world, which actually opened the weekend before
1088
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:18,960
Now this movie had a budget of nearly $40 million and only made $14 million in the box office
1089
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,080
In a 2023 variety article
1090
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,240
Carpenter stated this about his experience on working on memoirs
1091
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,040
Quote
1092
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,080
It gave me a chance to make a quasi-serious movie
1093
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,640
But Chevy Chase, Sam Nale, who I love and had a long time relationship with
1094
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,360
And Warner Brothers, I worked for them and it was pleasant
1095
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,040
No, it wasn't pleasant at all
1096
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:39,840
I'm lying to you
1097
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,960
It was a horror show, I really want to quit the business after that movie
1098
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,360
Wow
1099
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,760
God, I don't want to talk about why
1100
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,400
But let's say that there were personalities on that film
1101
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,800
He shall not be named who needs to be killed
1102
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,000
No, no, no, that's terrible
1103
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,360
He needs to be set on fire
1104
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,240
No, no, no
1105
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,240
Anyways, it's all fine, I survived
1106
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:57,440
(laughs)
1107
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,120
Oh wow
1108
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,320
Yeah, yeah
1109
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:01,600
Wow, okay
1110
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,280
It's pretty obviously he's talking about Chevy
1111
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,560
Oh yeah, absolutely
1112
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,840
Huh, somebody had a bad experience working with Chase
1113
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:08,960
On a movie
1114
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:09,520
Yep
1115
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:10,400
Interesting
1116
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,840
And then he stayed while working with him
1117
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,000
He was impossible to direct
1118
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,680
And that he would oftentimes refuse to wear his special effects makeup
1119
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,600
And remove it prematurely
1120
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,840
Ruining the day's worth of filming
1121
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,360
Shhh, shhh, shhh, shhh
1122
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:23,600
Yep
1123
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:24,640
(laughs)
1124
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,000
It is suspected
1125
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,440
That the commercial failure of memoirs of an invisible man
1126
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,400
Played apart into why Universal Executives
1127
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,040
Did not green light the creature production
1128
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,200
Another suspicion
1129
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,720
Is that Universal having just released Jurassic Park
1130
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,520
The idea of a small lizard movie coming out after a big lizard movie
1131
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,280
Was probably something that wouldn't motivate the people to go to the theaters
1132
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,640
Now according to Sandy Carpenter, which is John Carpenter's wife
1133
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,080
And producer, Universal never said no to the project
1134
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,680
But they did stop responding and never gave them that green light
1135
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:00,400
Hmm
1136
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,720
The attempts to make a new Gilman movie
1137
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,320
Doesn't stop with John Carpenter
1138
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,800
There have been multiple filmmakers that have taken a swing
1139
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:07,920
At the creature
1140
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,480
Around 1995, the dual
1141
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,440
Herschel Wingrod and Timothy Harris
1142
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,440
There were the ones who wrote trading places, Brewsters Millions, Twins
1143
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,280
My stepmother is an alien, Kindergarten cop and Space Jam
1144
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,960
They wrote a draft
1145
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,920
That was potentially going to be directed by Ivan Wrightman
1146
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And Peter Jackson
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Now Jackson, he actually turned down the gig to make another monster remake, King Kong
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Yeah
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In 2001, after the success of the mummy in 1999, Gary Ross and his father Arthur Ross
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Were developing a reboot of the creature for nearly a decade
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Arthur Ross was one of the original writers of the creature from the Black Lagoon
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The reboot was one of the last scripts that he ever wrote before passing away in 2008
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Director, Breck Eisner, who directed Sahara the Crazies
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And as the son of Michael Eisner was going to direct by wanting to make a few changes to the script
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Including a plot that included pharmaceutical companies
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Spilling dangerous chemicals into the Amazon
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Interesting
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That sounds like the start of the host, the Bong Joon Home movie
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Oh yeah, yeah
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So the plan was to shoot on location in Manus, Brazil
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The Gilman was going to be a combination of practical and CGI
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With a suit designed by Mark Crash McCreary
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He worked previously on Batman Returns, Small Soldiers, Galaxy Quest, Pirates of the Caribbean, Van Helzine, and Lady in the water
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Now Gary Ross was assigned as the producer for the film
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And after Eisner's CGI suggestion, Ross insisted that the creature be 100% practical
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Another potential director for the script was Karl Erik Rince
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Who did the gift in 2010 and also directed 47 Ronin
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The film was delayed during the 2008 writer strike and never got picked up after that
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Now to no surprise, Guillermo D'Otoro was interested in making his version of the creature
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When Guillermo was a kid, he always imagined Gilman getting together with K
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As the film should have ended that way
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Years later in 2011, D'Otoro collaborated with the troll hunter's author Daniel Cross
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To write a version of the creature where he ends up with his love interest
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D'Otoro pitched the film to Universal and was immediately rejected
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So Guillermo took his idea and pitched to Fox instead
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In the shape of water, one best picture and best director
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Yep, which is really weird in hindsight
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Like I just want to go back to the people who made the original creature from the Black Lagoon
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And just be like, "Hey, by the way, somebody's going to turn this into a love story and it's going to get best picture"
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Honestly, they're happening in my lifetime
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It is weird that it's a sci-fi movie that one best picture that never happens
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Not only that, but it's like a twist on a monster movie that's turned into a love story
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It's really bizarre when you kind of break it down to its most basic descriptions
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Yeah, that's true, speaking of bizarre things
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The Gilman did briefly come back to life in 2009
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After the Universal Studios theme park shut down their fear factor live show
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To replace the show was the creature from the Black Lagoon, the musical
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Which they moved to live first 2009
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What?
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There to attend the first show was Julie Adams, the actress who portrayed Kaye
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Lawrence in the original film
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The show operated until September 2009
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And was replaced temporarily with Bill and Ted's excellent Halloween adventure
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For Halloween hornites
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Unfortunately, a fire occurred during one of the performances
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shutting down the theater until it was repaired
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After that, the musical never returned
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In today, the theater is used for their special effects stage show
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The musical is loosely based on the original film
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But it's Universal Studios, so the show was introduced by a clip from the Today show with Matt Lauer and Meredith Yara
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Just a scary work of fiction, right?
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Well, maybe not
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Now, a new team of brave, brilliant and surprisingly attractive young scientists
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Headed back to the Black Lagoon to as they say right here in their press release
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Probe that deepest, darkest bowels of Mother Nature
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That sounds very painful
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You know, it does
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The expedition is led by Mark Buffett
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Some of the billionaire scientists, Graham Buffett, and included on this team of Brainiacs
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One, five, Lady Ictheoponcis
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You know, you think they put some pictures in the book
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They come off, come on
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Jeez, the team will investigate the mysterious recent deaths of many locals
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And try to explain sightings of a strange and perhaps prehistoric creature
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Just like the audience sees the characters Kay, Mark, and David traveling down the Amazon on the Rita
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Just like the film, but unlike the movie, the boat is captained by an Amazonian woman
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Mm-hmm
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The show includes the song's Black Lagoon, Sleimi, Prime Evil, and Strange New Hunger
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Mm-hmm The story takes a wild left turn and their revealed it creatures named is Gil
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Gil falls into a supply of human growth hormones in grows to be 25 feet tall
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And eats Kay
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Perfect
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The encore with the song Black Lagoon and the show ends
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(Music)
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(Music)
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(Music)
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Showing your planning to be so high, no fair terms of time for you to ever come back for life
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(Music)
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I wish I would have seen this show
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Actually, it's probably somewhere online, I could probably look it up
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Yeah
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So another honorable mention is James Gunn
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During an Instagram Q&A he revealed that after 2004 it's Dawn of the Dead
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He was approached by Universal to write a potential reboot of creature
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But the production never moved forward
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In 2012 Universal announced that they hired David Kedginich to write the reboot the Black Lagoon
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Nothing came of the script, but Kedginich explained his side of what happened
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to Universal Monsters universe.com
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"It may seem hard to believe, but I have no idea if any of the script is being used or not
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That's a surreal part of writing for a studio
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They own what you've written and can do with it whatever they choose with new obligation to keep you informed
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I did two drafts a number of years ago, so I imagine they've started over since my draft did not in any way connect to the mythology of the Black Lagoon
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To the rest of the monsters in the universe stable the concept came after my involvement
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It's definitely the most commercial script I've done, but it's a shitload of fun to research and write
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It was a ride through the kind of 70 style id-based horror iGrop loving
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This brings us to Universal's attempt to create the dark universe
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Dark universe
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Wait, I forgot to check is the tweet still up? Do you know about this whole thing?
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No, yes there it is. Universal marketing was quick to get their twitter profile set up joint
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May 2017 for at dark universe and it's just got the cast photo of who was gonna be and witness the
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beginning of a dark universe and that's it. That's all that's here because it never happened
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Who's on this castle? We got Russell Crowe who was being jekyll mr. Hyde, right?
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There's Javier Bardem, I don't know what Javier Bardem was doing. There's Tom Cruise which
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had something to do with the mummy. Johnny Depp, I don't remember what he's doing here and an actress
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who I don't recognize. Well she was in the mummy. Oh okay. She was the mummy. Oh she was the mummy.
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Yeah that is interesting. It's just funny how this is just like a weird relic and it's just
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still exists on twitter. That's great. So yeah the 2017 the mummy attempted to set up the multiple
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reboots that could have all connected together including Frankenstein, brighter Frankenstein,
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Dracula, Phantom of the Opera, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Invisible Man and of course
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Creature from the Black Lagoon. In the film there are a few Easter eggs that show a dismembered arm
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in a hand implying that he was captured by the prodigium because of the film's bad reviews
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in poor box office performance any plans to continue the dark universe were abruptly cancelled.
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So there is another potential for a creature reboot. Wait is this all you had for the dark universe?
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That was it for the dark universe. Okay because there is one thing because I did remember hearing rumors
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of who was cast to play the creature from the Black Lagoon. Did you hear about this?
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I didn't know about the creature. There is one like casting, I'll tell you this right now. Chris Evans
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in Scarlett Johansson is that what you're talking about? Yeah what I heard was that Scarlett Johansson
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was cast as the creature. Maybe that was people mixing things up. Yeah I believe so. Okay so here's
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what I found out. Chris Evans Scarlett Johansson they were rumored to be cast in the lead roles as Kay
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Lawrence and Dr. David Reed. Gotcha. As far as the creature goes we don't actually know. Okay.
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It's probably gonna be Doug Jones. Now this cast was rumored around 2015. I guess the dark universe
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was kind of being formed at that time but like no one really knows entirely. Yeah. But after the release
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of the Invisible Man in 2020 by Blumhouse Universal then realized that you don't necessarily need to
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make a dark universe all connected together. Yeah. Here's the thing Marvel is doing its own thing. Yeah
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they're connecting everything together great. But with the Invisible Man that proved to Universal that
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hey you can make just a singular story with this creature with this monster. Yeah. And because of
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that movie rumors have been risen to the surface again that's saying like hey Scarlett Johansson
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Chris Evans they can still make this movie. They can still make like a singular contained creature
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movie. I remembered one thing I think one of the reasons that it got mixed around when I remember
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hearing announcements about it of oh Scarlett Johansson playing the creature is because those
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announcements would have been coming out around the same time as that movie under the skin came out.
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01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:57,120
Oh right. Where Scarlett Johansson is playing a weird alien monster thing. Yeah.
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Sort of. I think that's probably where like things got mixed around and people are like oh what if
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we make Scarlett Johansson the terrifying monster. Yeah. With the creature Universal is still
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gunning to make it right now as far as the studios are going. I mean nothing's being made right now.
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So unless a 24 if you want to take on a creature movie like by all means I would love to see that. Yeah.
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But as far as Universal goes I don't think we're going to see anything from them anytime soon.
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I mean I personally don't feel like there's much of a need for a creature for the Black Lagoon movie
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for a while because like the shape of water is already like a really good definitive take on the
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story like in the same way that like the invisible man is definitely much more straight horror but it is
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like okay we're gonna do a specific take on this movie and I feel like we don't need another
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specific take on creature from the Black Lagoon right now but you know maybe. Maybe.
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01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:03,520
It would be interesting to see what they do if you reboot it both K and Dr. Reed in those positions.
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I think you can make an interesting story out of it but yes with the shape of water with how great
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01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:15,200
that movie was it feels like that was the fresh idea that we needed that was the fresh reboot that
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we truly craved and it was a great one off movie self-contained movie and that's really what we needed.
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So as far as the reboot goes even though Universal didn't make it it kind of did get made anyways.
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Yeah absolutely. But as far as John Carpenters creature from the Black Lagoon would you like to see it?
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I don't know there is some interesting stuff in there but I don't think it would be something that I
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would like use a time machine on let's put it that way it's like yeah that'd be cool but it's not
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something that I would feel the burning need to make happen I don't know how do you feel about it.
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I don't know if I'd want to see this movie specifically but the part that really got me was the
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fact that there was a ancient temple underwater in which this creature came from and comes from a
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lineage of other Gilman creatures fish creatures that have in a way protected the Amazon.
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Yeah I mean all of that almost makes me think of the version of name or we see in Black Panther 2.
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It almost kind of has that similar you know it's the South American temple and everything.
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Yeah so I think that idea of like there's this underwater tribe that has been there for centuries
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that have been protecting the Amazon have their own established religion have their own temples
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I think that idea you can really run with and make something great out of it absolutely.
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So if anything I don't want to see this movie particularly but you can pull that element out
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and then you could run with that with the new creature reboot and it would still be fresh
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and it would still be different enough from Guillermo Doutoro's the shape of water to make a really
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interesting creature movie for sure yeah that's it that's John Carpenter's creature from the Black
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Lagoon all right well I guess that's going to go ahead and wrap up this episode so thank you
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