Breach Cammy

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Welcome to control On Competing Today. We're joined by Cami
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from Boston Breach. How are you doing? Oh, thank you?
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It's tell me right, how did you first get into
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playing games? Then? I'm always interested to find out people
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actually started playing games like.
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Well, I mean obviously started when I was a wee
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boy PlayStation playing years ago my pals, and then as
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time went on, just finding more on YouTube, getting more
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and more.
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What did you play? What was the first recollection of
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the games.
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You called Duty? Well, actually, I guess when I was
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really young, it was like Crash Back.
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You can say that if you want throwing one of
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the bad right now.
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It was it was it was more like Crash Bandicoot.
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I'm trying to think we're playing that last Spiro wife
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put on last night. Crash Bandicoot. Yeah, straight in game.
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Yeah yeah, that and Spiral was what I remember being
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really young, and then when I got a little bit older,
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it was like Grand Theft Autos. Yeah, Call of Duty's
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and stuff like that, and that's kind of just went
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from there.
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Okay, what age you played Grand Theft Ato?
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Then I must have been pretty young, must been pretty young.
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My mom my mum didn't buy it. From me.
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It was my dad I play.
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Yeah, yeah, so he bought it for me. I used
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to play it, but to be honest, he didn't really
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let me sit on the games very much. So it
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was only an hour so yeah to play.
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I didn't take long to run loads of over No.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then are you looking forward to a new Grand
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Theft dot All?
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Oh yeah, yeah, I'm desperate for it, to be honest,
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I've bot a nice new supercomputer just ready for it,
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just for enjoying it on all the It's going to
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be good.
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One of the kids of my wife's okay, my wife,
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my daughter's dance school. Her dad is one of the
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designers on Grand Theft at All, and he's like working
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overtime all the time. So I think they're yeah, they're
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really going for it to make sure you get that
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release next next, next year. I think it's going to
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be really good the way.
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No, yeah, I mean they've never the last few games
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they've made, they've never missed Dad Redemption to his Class.
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I love that game, so I'm looking forward to it.
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What do you think would be really cool to haven't it?
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Then?
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Who do you think they can take it? I mean
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a lot of role playing, there's a lot of I wonder,
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I wonder if they're going to lean in because I've
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seen a lot of role play with Grand Theft, Dott
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and you wonder that something people have taken out with
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the game and made a world of their own. I wonder,
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I wonder how much they're going to try and get
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that or if.
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I definitely think they should, because I mean there's obviously
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the regular players that probably don't really know much about Roclay. Yeah,
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but obviously it's gotten huge over the years. Yeah.
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Yeah, So I.
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Mean it would be good if they could integrate that
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into the game. But I mean, I think with the
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base game, they're never going to miss when making one,
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so I think, but if they can add an extra
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thing or two, it'll make it unreal.
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Even giving the multiplayer or something more competitive, it could
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be quite cool as well. Oh yeah, yeah, I was like,
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I mean, I think, yeah, it's such a cool game.
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I think, and the map what I've seen of it
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is going to be even bigger as well, right.
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Yeah, yeah, I think it's in Miami or Florida, so yeah,
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it's going to be huge somewhere.
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Yeah, So yeah, go back again. So well, when did
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you start thinking that you're gonna be good at games?
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Then when they start thinking like you're yeah, I'm actually
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all right.
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This probably when I was about like fifteen sixteen. That
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was when I started to put a lot of time
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into Call of Duty, to be honest, because I mean
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there were some games growing up that played just for fun,
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like racing games and stuff that I thought was all right. Yeah,
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But throughout years of just playing colleg Duty in my pals,
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I realized that I'm getting pretty good and then started
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to find out more about the side of stuff. And
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I'm a competitive person, so that's where I kind of
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found a love for it.
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And how did you find then just obviously your mate
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is not want to play me anymore because you're obviously
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oh they play did because you're won their team, right, yeah,
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carrying on your mates all the time? When did you
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put me you sick of carrying your mates? When did
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that suddenly change?
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From my honest Well, I played with a couple of
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mates for a pretty long to put until I was
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about seventeen eighteen, But I think they just got older,
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they just kind of grew out of gaming, so they
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kind of just left it. But to be honest with you,
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up until about seventeen sixteen, I was still just playing
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with them basically every day.
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Yeah. Yeah, And so how did you then suddenly get
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into me you talk about about your career, then, how
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did you what was your king to first step into
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like being a pro player.
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I just start playing this website called game Battles, Yeah,
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remember game BA Yeah, so that in a game and Twitter,
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and then I started to go out on my own
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playing with random people and then getting into that aspect,
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and then just I just loved it. I just loved
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playing every day. So I mean that kind of just
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went from one thing to another.
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And how long did you spend playing the game then.
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When I came home from school till ten eleven o'clock
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at night at least basically every day.
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Yeah, And so then I suppose you're getting a grief
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from your mom and your dad being like you're playing
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too much?
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And yeah, my mom was quite easy going with it.
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I mean I still went out here and there, but
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I definitely played a lot. But my dad was definitely
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strict on it back then, but now he pays the
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most attention to it, so it's like the opposite now.
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So I'm going to ask a dad question. Then what's
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the biggest price pool we've been involved in?
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Then the Call of Duty Championship, which we came second.
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I think we walked away with one hundred and sixty grand.
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Each, right, and did Dad play attention? Then?
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Yeah, he did.
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Yeah you don't hear that. I know, I'll throw you
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down the bet that's going to be when they started
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to turn around and they started thinking.
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Yeah, definitely.
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I think that was when I realized he played grand
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theft that it was on Yeah, yeah, So he was like.
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As soon as I actually got because I was going
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to America for like a good two years before I
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actually got into the Pro League, and as soon as
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I got into the Pro League and started getting podcast
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on YouTube and stuff, that's when he started to first,
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you know, do you realize that something serious? And started
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watching a bit more?
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And so when was that? What year was that?
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Camera would have been halfway through twenty nineteen, so.
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That was when I first went through and so like
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so right, so obviously in Scotland there's not any that
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bigger teams, right, so he hit a Scalp. I think
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Skelp kind of tried to do stuff with Collogue even cribal,
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but never really pointed that size. And so was it
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the American teams that you were going for then, like
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what kind of cops did you go in?
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Yeah? So originally, like I just played with some of
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my mates from England. We were going over there and
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competing in sort of amateur tournaments and then that then
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just kind of elevated into the franchise League forming with
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the twelve teams.
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I remember that in North America.
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So so that was what happened. And then as soon
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as those teams obviously got formed, and that gives opportunities
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for people like me to actually move over there quite
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easily and get visas and stuff sorted, and it.
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Was easy, and so it tried to that with the
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Overwatch League copy of the colleg duty format. Then it
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was the the way around was all the way around? Yeah, okay,
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yeah yeah. And so how many teams got formed then?
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Twelve and there's still twelve at the moment. Unfortunately they
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haven't managed to get any bigger. I think by now
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they were probably hoping for at least sixteen teams, and
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so we do it better.
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Do you think to be bigger? Do you think it'd
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be good.
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Yeah, just more jobs for people, more security.
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More competition though, right, Yeah, do you think they wanted
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to be bigger? I really don't know because you think
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about it, right, he's talking about about F one for example,
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Like a lot of the teams, I suppose maybe don't
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want extra ones to be added because they're all right,
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I'm fine, we're getting our share of the revenue. Maybe
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there are some back parts that maybe we don't want
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to expand it because then maybe the money gets put out.
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No, yeah, there's definitely pros and constable. It just depends
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where they're really at. I think everyone would like to
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see it get bigger. But then again, if you had
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those extra few teams, the competition in those bottom teams,
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I personally don't know who you would put on the teams,
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but it's you never know.
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And do you think for the sport of call of
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duty you think it would better then if you had
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it in a league would maybe maybe the more teams
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would help having the different divisions then and that would help.
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Or Yeah, I think if they managed to make a
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bit more of a sustainable thing for the amateurs coming in,
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because it's really difficult for those people. Got a lot
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of people to take risks and essentially just grinding call
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of duty as an amateur without having like a part
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time job at least or some sort of education. And
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then that can you know, come back to bite you
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and you end up missing out on you know, setting
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yourself back, or you can go the opposite, you can
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get promoted into the league, but it is definitely difficult.
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And I was going to say as well, do you
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think that maybe call of duty is lucky in a sense,
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because I mean, how many college duties as are a year?
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You know, three different studios though, right, I think they're
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playing them. Do you use ever as players like a
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certain studio but you don't have the name any studio,
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right Triarch? Yeah? Off the bat, I.
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Think you know, well that's personally my favorite over the years.
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But how do you notice when you think about it, right,
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people jump ship all the time, and you know, I've
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got the game in industry in Scotland and you know
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people are always jumping ship and you're getting people up,
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you know, getting Yeah, what do you call it? When
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people get picked from other companies? What do you call it?
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Do you know what I mean? Jerry Peck? Okay, but
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so in a sense, what do you think it is
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about tree Arc then that you think make them that good?
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Then I honestly, I think it's just the dev team
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are pretty supportive towards competitive whilst the other teams, not
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that they're not supportive towards it. They definitely are, but
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I think the way they've catered the games are probably
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a bit more to the public base rather than to competitive.
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They're playing the campaign Yeah, no, I still play the
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campaigns here and there a couple of moving. The last
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one I played, to be honest, was the Modern War
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for two, most recent one that came out. That one
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was really good, But to be honest, I'm not played
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the last two.
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And what do you think about you the Black Ops
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and the Only Directional?
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I like it. Again, it's it's competitive. I think it
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a skilled Yeah.
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He's going to say, because you're obviously a pro player,
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do you think it helps you, just like the hammered down,
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that you're a pro player, because there's all these other
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things that you can show off your skills?
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Well, I think so. Yeah. I think again there's like
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pros and concert but I think it's definitely more so
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leaning on the side of skill and talent rather than
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a bit more basic of a game.
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And so then so what will we put your face
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it calling it? And what's the one is going okay,
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not now, but what's the one that's got your heart?
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Like you know you you grew up, there's a band
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that it was like her fummy, I was like, what
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is the called that? You you know, share a glass
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of west Ky and be like, you know what, I
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love that one.
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I think there's too. I think the one that got
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me to fall in love with originally was Black Ops Too, Yeah,
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because that was like, zombies was really good, multiplayer was
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really good. All my pals still played it back on
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the Xbox three sixty years ago. And then the one
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after that, i'd say was Black Ops three, which was
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that was like the one that got me into competitive
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that really started to like sink a lot of hours
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into it.
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The Zombies is not to say, oh yeah, I love
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the zombies.
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It's a shame they don't make them like how they
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used to. But to be way, it's getting better. Honestly,
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they used to be more difficult.
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I think they kind of games developers are like that
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because ultimately, as much as you as what she wanted
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to cater to the people like yourself. It's like they
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still want to sell copies. Yeah, and they don't want
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it to be too hard for people who they can
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I give it up, right, So there's a balance that
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they've got with it.
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Not definitely, definitely, and so it's a hard thing to balance,
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and not if is always going to be happy. But
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that's just the way I like them.
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Yeah it is. And so when you've been out in
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the States and rair us it you said to me before,
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but we started filming it, You've been all over and
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tell me, can I like what your Johnny's been out
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in the States?
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Then, So a little run down. The first three years
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that I was in the league, I lived in Toronto.
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That was my favorite place. Loved it. Yeah, it's lovely.
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Was it likely in the summer? Honestly, just I think
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everything about the location that we stayed, the people that
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I was there with, the facility they had, the city.
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It's pretty multicultural. There's a lot of things, a lot
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of different foods. I love foods. Yeah, Yeah, it was
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just honestly, it was a load of a load of
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little things adding up and it just made it my
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favorite experience to be.
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Honest, and so when you're doing you're actually doing the
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actual series. And tell me a bit more about like
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these go Do you have like home and away games?
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Is it online? Like, tell me a bit more about
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the actual they compete inside of it.
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Yes, actually have online matches which essentially like qualifying games
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for the majors. The majors they get rant in person
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land tournaments across America. There they're actually doing a couple
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in Europe, I think this year.
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Okay, And is that them trying to grow the franchise out?
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Do you think COVID definitely messed up the whole European
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side of it because I think it made it difficult
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obviously getting the equipment over here, getting the venues traveling
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and stuff like that. And I think they realized that
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the expenses is it worth they're running it over here?
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M hm?
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But yeah, I think now they're starting to realize that,
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you know, especially the European fans are really missing out
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on the experiences that they do have over here.
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And do you think it's grown in Europe?
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Then?
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Do you think that? Do you think the Americans get it? More?
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Like do you think that they esports in a sense?
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Do you feel like they're just more WHOA, Okay, what's
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the difference between the European scene and the fans and
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the way people think about esports here are compared to
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what you've experienced in the States. That makes sense, it's
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obviously here in Scotland today. But you know, we've got
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an event here at Murrayfield, right and it's great and
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a lot of passionate people. But has it got everybody
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in Scotland excited about it?
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Not?
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But do everybody game in Scotland? Yeah? I think they're
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saying that person in Scotland right up there with some
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of the highest gaming rates in Europe, what is the
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sports kicked off with it?
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I think obviously you've got some esports like counter strike
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and stuff like that which are pretty big in European,
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But I think Call of Duty being mainly based in
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America is probably why it's not over here as much
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as it should be. But don't get me wrong. I
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think the UK itself, there's a lot of cord fans
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like they shopped the events, but I think it's really
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the biggest in France, Spain, those sort of places the crowds.
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Are that's just because of them and the people that
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actually live in France and Spain, I can.
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Yeah, probably, And I think they've also got some really
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big like like content creators that are focused on esports,
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so I think a lot of people see that and
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then tune into it. Whilst the UK there isn't really
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many big faces for esports, you know. So how many
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more Scottish pro players they know? My current coach now,
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he used to be a Scottish pro. His name was
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Seanie Marky Marquee. Yeah, ex coach mine. But at the
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moment there's no other the Scottish pros. Some Scottish amateur
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players that could make a name for themselves, but at
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the moment none of them have brooken.
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And why do you think that is? Do you think
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they're just not in the commitment or nah?
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I think it is just hard. I think you do
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need to be talented at the same time, you need
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things to go your way with visas and teams needing
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players at the right times, your name being up there
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when they need when they need players. I got a
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little bit. I don't want to blame it on luck.
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I always they had the talent too, but I definitely
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things went in my way for me to get what you've.
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Got to be. Everybody says that, right, and I think
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everyone's so humble and they say, oh, I was lucky,
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I was lucky. But ultimately you've got to Bennett and
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doing it to make that lock right.
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So it's true.
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Yeah yeah, And so would you say, then, what kind
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of different positions as are in court?
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Right?
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Because you're talking five to five? It be four? Sorry
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it was there never fivey five?
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Yeah, there was for a couple of years. Yeah.
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Yeah, So basically, what would you say then, is a
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different kind of positions you can get? And so somebody's
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going to be watching and doesn't know, how do you
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I've just seen people gun. What would you say would
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be the typical kind of loadouts for each person? Like
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different kind of okay, for a football striker, defenders with right,
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would you say that for cous well, I.
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Think we'll call it's it's mostly they try to focuses obviously,
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four players, so two assault rifle players, two SMG players,
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you know, aggressive players slower, no snipers, some snipers. Some
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years the snipers have been taken out because they're a
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bit overpowered. Yeah so, but some years the amssis is
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two overpowers. So the Snipers get taken out unfortunately, So
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you know, the fans obviously like the snipers. Its entertain
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and we don't play with them, so sometimes they get
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annoyed at that HM. And then obviously you've got the
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coaching staff, which is something you can go into as well,
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but I mean it is hard to get into.
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So we're talking to Drew Spark yesterday, so he's a
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Valiant coach, right, and we're always talking about they can
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set up and valeran it. Do you think you're saying
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two assaults to SMGs? Is that just the meta? What
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do you think like somebody might try three assaults when oh.
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Yeah, it goes back and forth. It might be some
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games or game modes that four SMGs are three SMGs benefits.
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So the death matches you do, what do you do? Destroyer?
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Yeah, surgeon destroys one of them. Another game modes hard point,
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hatch is mental? How do you even gone hard point?
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How do you can peter hard point? It must be
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good point. There is a lot to it. There's like,
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obviously you've got to have the right control in the map.
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Obviously you can respawn a lot, and they used to
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have another game mode they've got control at the moment,
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which was like King of the hell was that was
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just like it's kind of like imagine search and destroy,
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but you can respawn and there's like two points that
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you have to capture, and then there's obviously defending team
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that has to defend the two points, and if you
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capture one, it adds more time. And then if you
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capture both you and.
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The rank and what what one do you do? You
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think there's sometimes change the can of modes. They can
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appease fans and make it more of a view inspectacle.
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Do you think that's a bit a big point of it.
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Definitely. I think in previous years they used to have
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something called Uplink, which was a game mode with a
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ball and you could one person would carry the ball,
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you'd throw it around to each other try to score and.
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Play Halo at all. Nah, But I do think there's
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a skull one oddball that's brilliant. He just got some
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guy just hiding. The grenades are going off, absolutely silly,
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and then you've got to keep it for as long
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as you can. That's a good one. Did you ever
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tried they were trying to play other games at the
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first person and.
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Just getting no, yeah, I do. I do for fun obviously,
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I know, like I've never doing anything special in them,
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I don't think. But no, I like playing you know,
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IPEX Legends, Halo. I never really played Halo growing up
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because I was a PlayStation. Yeah yeah, yeah kid to
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be honest, So there was a new one coming on that, Yeah, yeah,
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I think there was. I think there might be some
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problems that Halo esports seem to be honest at the moment,
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but again it's one of them ones that keeps coming
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back and going coming back and dying off of it.
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I think. I think once again, it was that whole
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thing of like they make the games for the games,
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and then do all what of these companies really think
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about esports? A lot from what I've heard, probably not
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even speaking to Fortnite. We had a guy who was
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one of the Fortnite developers and he was talking about
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like when Fortnite kicked off and then the esports kicked off,
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but you know, they were kind of more focused on
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obviously making the skins and you know, everything else then,
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but then the fans of what the esports and it's
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something that it's a bit on top of what they
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were doing already.
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Yeah, that's that's definitely the problem. I think we call
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it Duties because it's such a game, like they make
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so much money every year off people just buying it.
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The campaign itself so competitive, is only such a small percentage.
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I do think it's growing, but it's such a small
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percentage compared to just the normal player.
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And so here's one for you, right, So I guess,
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like I've seen that you can go Beavis and butt
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Head now and you can even go to the teenage
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routing Ninja Turtles and Call of Duty. What do you
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think of that?
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I mean, I don't mind it, to be honest. Have
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you got the skin? Yeah, I've got a couple of
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d I do. I do think some of them coming
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in the store, I'm like, I'll buy them. How much
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I think you've spent on it?
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Oh, not not that much?
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Well depends, I don't know what that much is.
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Just tell me how much.
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Maybe nah, probably I've probably not spent more on like
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one hundred pounds on skins. But that's like I feel
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like with the amount of stuff they bring out, because
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they bring out stuff a lot, Yeah, loads of different
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little collabs they've done with companies. You know, you can
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spend a lot of money on the store on just
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on silly wee things, to be honest, Yeah.
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And sometimes you do it. I think I've bought like
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Optimus Prime skin on roadblocks with my son, yeah, because
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I think I think he thinks my name's joined me. Right,
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So you played I actually played a Robots game and
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I had a kind of call of duty mode on it.
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It looked like a game. It looked just like one
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of the old colleg duties from five years ago. It
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was actually really good. You've seen that at all? I haven't.
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I haven't played my Shorebocks, but I know there's a
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lot of customizable stuff you can you can do it.
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Yeah, So tell me then, where are you now in
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your career? What has he been doing now?
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Then? So last year I was living in Boston, which
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lovely city, lovely place. I'd recommend people go to it.
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It's got a bit of a bit of modern too,
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but it's also quite an old city too, so there's
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a lot to it, a lot of good food. So
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that's really cold in the winter, so don't go in
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the winter. Go in the summer. By the moment, it's
490
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just it's my off season. So we're currently waiting for
491
00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:44.279
all the teams and stuff to be sorted and just
492
00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:45.920
seeing where we're going to set up next year because
493
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I think we're moving.
494
00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.200
And so then what can I advice in a sense?
495
00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:50.960
Would you give Anny Can a player that's may be
496
00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:52.920
watched and now said I'm really good at call and
497
00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:54.640
beat my mate. It's maybe a lot of stuff you're
498
00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:57.079
talking about is resonating with him. I'm thinking, I'm really good. Like,
499
00:18:58.000 --> 00:18:59.839
how would they get it? Does a leader board not?
500
00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:02.240
Do you mean the Scouts? I mean, how does a
501
00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:03.960
Scout fighter player do they just look at it as
502
00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:06.160
a leader boards out there and just be like like,
503
00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:06.839
actually good.
504
00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:09.039
Essentially, yeah, but I think you'd have to do it
505
00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:12.680
at the actual amateur events. You'd have to go with
506
00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:15.759
the team, show up, do your thing. Then you'd maybe
507
00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:17.279
get your name out there. But if you're going for
508
00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:21.279
something before that to get into that, honestly, I mean
509
00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:23.640
they've took game battles out. That was something pretty reliable
510
00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:27.000
that you could build up. Compared you took that out,
511
00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:29.200
then I honestly have no idea. It's a shame, to
512
00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:31.039
be honest, because it was really big years ago. Maybe
513
00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:33.640
it just died down over the years, but you've got
514
00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:35.799
ranked play game modes and stuff like that. I'm sure
515
00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:37.839
if you live streamed and people saw you were decent
516
00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:41.759
and and you know you're you're pretty passionate about it.
517
00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:44.759
If you just sat there and grinded with four people
518
00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:48.400
that loved it too, I'm sure that's a bit essentially.
519
00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:50.359
And to me, I just grinded it with my new
520
00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:53.319
friends that I met, just random people and kind of
521
00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:54.640
went up and up and up as time went on.
522
00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:55.960
You've touched on a good point there.
523
00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:58.400
Do you think that it's good to have a profile
524
00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:00.160
as well and think that help you get more It's
525
00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:01.839
like if you do a lot of content creation as
526
00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:04.359
well as your games. Oh yeah, definitely, especially if you're
527
00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:07.480
live streaming, even ranked playing you're doing quite well, or
528
00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:09.200
you play against a couple of pros and you start
529
00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:12.960
playing with them, and yeah, it can definitely just lead
530
00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:14.720
to things. To be honest, it's just actually getting your
531
00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:16.759
name out there. Nowadays it's the most important thing.
532
00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:18.119
And so I'm going to ask you two things. What
533
00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:20.759
I'm going to talk to you about is how you
534
00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:22.960
think people should train things they should work on right
535
00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:24.759
so let's start with that. Then what would you say
536
00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:26.559
to anyone that's kind of grown up and it's been
537
00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:28.599
playing it and maybe they're just sweating the one thing?
538
00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:30.359
What kind of things have you say them to work on?
539
00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:31.279
It makes a pro player?
540
00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:34.920
I think Obviously there's the boring answer of you actually
541
00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:37.680
just need to play the game right, so your individual
542
00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:40.440
talent in terms of shooting your gun and moving around
543
00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:43.960
the map. But I think actually just being aware, like
544
00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:46.319
your communication is super important. You'd be talking to your
545
00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:49.039
teammates really well. They need to talk to you and
546
00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:51.400
needs to go back and forth. That's one thing that
547
00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:52.960
I think even a lot of pros, to be honest,
548
00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:56.519
definitely struggle with. Like that separates the top from the bottom.
549
00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:58.519
The communication and yeah, who's down where they are?
550
00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:01.400
It makes everyone's job ten times easier if you can
551
00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:04.240
sit there and talk properly to each other and to
552
00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:07.079
understand you. Yeah, yeah, I think to be honest with
553
00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:08.319
my accents kind of died awful.
554
00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:09.039
It's not too bad.
555
00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:10.920
Yeah, So I think going over there and playing with
556
00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:12.839
a bunch of American people in English people has kind
557
00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:15.160
of faded away, to be honest, from when I was younger.
558
00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:17.119
And what it was. When you think of you being
559
00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:19.079
the Scotts, do you think it's done you well being Scottish?
560
00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:21.000
Do you think it's the like having a Scottish guy
561
00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:23.119
in the team. I mean what your team made up of,
562
00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:25.599
Like what nationalities on your team's.
563
00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:27.759
Actually I've got there's a Mexican kid on our team awesome,
564
00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:30.079
and there's an American guy on the team. And I
565
00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.240
can't say the other one just yet because it's sims
566
00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:34.839
to being announced. Yeah, so I don't want to ruin it.
567
00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:37.039
Yes it is, but but yeah, so we I've got
568
00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:39.559
a Mexican Mexican player obviously, which is good. We've got
569
00:21:39.640 --> 00:21:43.599
different cultures. Yeah, two Scottish coach, Scottish player, Mexican kid,
570
00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:47.240
American guy from it. So the things what do you
571
00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:49.680
think actually do you see your personality or do you
572
00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:52.799
think other people from other countries there's traits of their
573
00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:54.799
nationalities that make them play a certain way.
574
00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:57.000
But that makes sense maybe.
575
00:21:56.920 --> 00:21:59.160
Yeah, I can definitely see that, especially like the Spanish and.
576
00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:01.480
The front it's surely be a whole right you're getting there, Yeah.
577
00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:06.160
I definitely am. I think Spanish players they like to yeah,
578
00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:07.640
so just going there, have a rocket lunch and just
579
00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:09.680
trying to destroy every hand. Yeah exactly. So, yeah, no,
580
00:22:09.799 --> 00:22:11.839
that definitely is the thing. And I think obviously mixing
581
00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:14.200
cultures and stuff like that can definitely affect teams too.
582
00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:15.960
But as long as you've got people that are pretty
583
00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:18.759
normal people like being around each other, you can have
584
00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:20.519
a good laugh and it's funny learning about you know
585
00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:22.440
each other in different cultures and stuff like that.
586
00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:24.359
And so tell me then, a typical kind of training
587
00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:27.880
session then, like how often do you chain as a team,
588
00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.359
Like do you go through tactics like you know, tell
589
00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:30.799
me about that.
590
00:22:31.640 --> 00:22:33.079
Yeah, so I think our day to day kind of
591
00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:38.960
looks like our actual practice will start from say two
592
00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:42.160
o'clock to about seven eight o'clock at night.
593
00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:44.079
It's just like our two o'clock in the afternoon, yeah,
594
00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:46.000
two o'clock later. See that's why when I said to
595
00:22:46.039 --> 00:22:47.559
you about this, we're supposed to be doing this this
596
00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:50.160
morning at quite fast night and you're like, whoa, you're
597
00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:52.279
going to do it lit fair play? Yeah yeah, but yeah,
598
00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:53.880
so two o'clock because I just to give you time
599
00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:54.359
to wake up.
600
00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:57.279
And yeah, yeah, so so normally what are started to yeah,
601
00:22:57.400 --> 00:22:59.559
starting to But to be honest, we would probably come
602
00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:03.799
in at like one o'clock video video review and stuff
603
00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:06.920
like that for an hour. Not every day, but some days,
604
00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:08.279
you know, just go over some things we want to
605
00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:11.519
actually work on throughout the day, and then you know,
606
00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:13.839
we might try go for like a walk in the morning,
607
00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:16.039
go to the gym something like that, get ready, have
608
00:23:16.119 --> 00:23:18.440
some tea. Just make sure we're actually ready so we
609
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:20.240
can sit down the whole day and watch the diet.
610
00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:21.880
You like, Then, what's the things that you do to
611
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:24.079
prepare like, because obviously it's important. I you have took
612
00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:26.000
that peak level, like you're drinking your water. You tell
613
00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:27.799
me what's your can of nutrition? What do they advise
614
00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:28.079
you to do?
615
00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:31.359
To be honest, I think that's one thing that is lacking.
616
00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:33.400
And then especially called you. I think some of the
617
00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:36.200
sports have developed, they've probably got that unlock. I didn't
618
00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:37.680
take it as serious. I'm a little bit I'm a
619
00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:40.000
little bit overweight at the moment. You're fine over the
620
00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:41.559
over the years, but I'll be I'll you know, I'm
621
00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:43.400
in the gym trying to get But that's definitely one
622
00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:45.720
thing is gamers. I think they don't take serious enough.
623
00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.079
What made you be like that? Do you think it's
624
00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:50.640
actually the scene or you'll see other players are being different.
625
00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:52.880
For example, we know, I think I see a lot
626
00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:55.440
of sim racers and that maybe they do. All some
627
00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:57.599
racers i've met, I think they do look after themselves
628
00:23:57.680 --> 00:23:58.000
very well.
629
00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:01.559
Do you think that's because of they had the actual
630
00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:05.640
f one for example, actual drivers to look at how
631
00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:07.640
they look after and they've taken that and the call
632
00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:09.519
of duty? I mean what we've used, guys got and
633
00:24:09.559 --> 00:24:11.160
I said to look at right. So I think, do
634
00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:13.119
you think that's what's helped? Yeah, I think so. I
635
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:14.839
think because I think if you look at games like
636
00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:17.839
Legal Legends, even like Valerie, maybe like a really high level,
637
00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:19.599
I'm sure they probably are a bit more professional it
638
00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:21.640
comes to stuff like that. I could be wrong, But
639
00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:24.440
with Call of Duty even it was only until about
640
00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:28.200
twenty eighteen twenty nineteen that we actually started scheduling scrims
641
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:30.960
for like to one o'clock in the afternoon. It used
642
00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:33.880
to just be when your team gets on at like
643
00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:36.079
six seven o'clock at night. It used to play until
644
00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:37.599
midnight one in the morning.
645
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:39.279
That's still not good for you either exact time.
646
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:41.200
So again, I think it was just a learning process
647
00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:43.519
and Again, I think people realize how you die, it
648
00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:46.960
can affect your brain, how you play sluggish, you know.
649
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:50.000
And again some people when you're younger, it doesn't affect
650
00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:51.720
you as much. But I'm getting older now, so it's
651
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:54.400
one thing that I'm turning twenty six.
652
00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:57.279
Yeah, so you see we getting older. Still young, yeah, big.
653
00:24:57.160 --> 00:24:59.119
Time, still young. But for e sports, especially Call of
654
00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:02.599
Duty again, like I said, it's new, so a lot
655
00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:05.880
of players. I'm definitely on the older side of the players.
656
00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:09.440
I'm forty five, right, and my thumbs now I hate
657
00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:11.799
saying it that they get are starting to get sore, yeah,
658
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:14.119
and thinking, oh no, that's the worst thing could happen
659
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:16.079
to me, because I I was PC gaming for a
660
00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:17.640
while in my PC broke and I've been back on
661
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:19.720
the Xbox now and I'm kind of like, now I'm
662
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:22.839
feeling like, when do you do anything to any good exercise.
663
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:25.680
And stuff here and there. Luckily, I've not really had
664
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:29.039
much problems my hands to be forty five, yeah exactly so,
665
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:30.839
but I mean there's I've definitely known people and there's
666
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:32.200
been people over the years that I've had to pack
667
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.599
it in due to just some thumb problems, hand problems
668
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:38.440
there's nothing you can really do about, which is tough.
669
00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:40.720
But it's one of these, like anything, really, I.
670
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:42.400
Think some players try and play through it. Maybe, don't
671
00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.240
you mentioned they've got definitely because if you're if you're
672
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.319
in a pro team, you're like my thumbs are.
673
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.640
So yeah, yeah, people are obviously gonna worry about you.
674
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:51.720
Yeah yeah, yeah, and worry about you enough that you're
675
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:52.720
out the door exactly.
676
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.720
So yeah, it's you definitely gotta worry about stuff like that.
677
00:25:57.880 --> 00:25:59.720
But I think as long as again, like I said,
678
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:01.759
if if you probably sit there, you're a bit more healthy,
679
00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:04.680
you're active, you're moving around. You should keep your hands
680
00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:05.839
in you know, your arms.
681
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:09.240
Have you ever met like any is there is there
682
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:11.759
any kind of beef between CS goal players and CORD players.
683
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:13.680
Do they ever look at the ever? Can I get
684
00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:15.359
that kind of Oh?
685
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:17.799
I think Cord, to be honest, Cord is if you oh,
686
00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:19.720
you put your player yes and you just get that
687
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.079
look na. Yeah, No, I would. I would love to
688
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:23.559
meet CS players. I don't know if they would say
689
00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:26.319
the same about CORD players because I like Cord. No, yeah,
690
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:28.680
I do. I love c I think it's huge. Obviously,
691
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:31.519
it's an FPS, so I'm watching it, it's like certain
692
00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:36.079
advanced Search and destroyed. Really, so no, yeah, I love it.
693
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.400
But I mean I think cord esports as a whole
694
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:41.799
that's kind of like joked about throughout esports. I think
695
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:45.559
I really don't know. So you say this, Jenna joked
696
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:47.480
about what what experience have you had that made you
697
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:49.920
think like that. I don't think I've not hear about it.
698
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:52.440
I don't think. See. That's why I don't. That's why
699
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:54.079
I asked you the question without beings and butt heading
700
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:55.920
the turtles, because I wonder if that's a noisey prob
701
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:58.160
players to be like, now, they're can I do this
702
00:26:58.279 --> 00:26:59.680
to my game? I know you're kind of think it's
703
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:02.000
fun abot. Maybe that's maybe something to being like, oh,
704
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:03.799
I'm getting enough grief as it is. We don't need that.
705
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:05.200
I don't honestly.
706
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:06.839
I think it might just be because college is such
707
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.440
a casual, public game that maybe that's for the mask.
708
00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:11.839
But rather than you know, other games the Apex legends
709
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:14.559
see US Going or see US two, Sorry, Valerie, those
710
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:18.599
games are specifically built forty sports and competitive p'st. College
711
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:21.000
is not really like that. So maybe that's why people
712
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.799
called grudges against it, bonds. I couldn't tell you because
713
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:26.119
I feel like college is really supportive of other scenes
714
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:28.000
and stuff, but we don't really get it back.
715
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.680
I bet you people are more upset playing CS and
716
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:32.400
Valerian because a lot of the people I see that
717
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:34.559
play it because it's such a frustrating game and once
718
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:38.279
they die, they die. Yeah, a better, a bit sadder
719
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:39.839
people that are playing it as sad as and like,
720
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:41.599
I think it probably hurts them a bit more playing
721
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.759
it because it's such a you know what those game
722
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.119
modan cod If you die, he dies and destroyed. Yeah,
723
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:49.559
how do you feel about that? If you're playing and
724
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:50.480
like yet you're down?
725
00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:53.079
Yeah, it's definitely not especially at the big events and
726
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.640
you make a pro playing, you hear the crowd go
727
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oh and stuff like that, and you're dead and then
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you're out for the round. And if you know your
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team's in a bad situ cuation, you know they lose
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their round. You're thinking, ah, and.
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Do you how do you actually like you talk about
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okay mindset for example, right, how important do you think
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that is? Once again? Talking to kids? So maybe they've
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age quitting and you know when to start blaming their team.
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How important do you think it's being to actually have
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that good mindset when you're actually playing, especially if you're
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going to join a team.
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Yeah, that is again, it's super important. You gotta have fun,
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but at the same time, you also got to take
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stuff serious. I think there's definitely a lot of people
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over the years that their mindset and personalities have helped
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them back for bigger opportunities. So that ego things. Yeah,
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ego and just being like a bit more professional about stuff,
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to be honest, and you know, just getting on with
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your teammates.
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And where do you think they get ego from? Do
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you think they play with their friends too much? Do
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you think that they can become like I always wonder
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sometimes if people grow up with their friends, they become
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the best in the group, they've got a discord or
751
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the top dog, and then they have to join other
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people and realize they're just not that top dog anymore.
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I wonder if that's where sometimes ego comes from the
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wrong kind of person.
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I think it's just something just some people just get
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some credit and and kind of forget the basics and
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lose their heads a bit. But I mean, it doesn't
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happen to a lot of people, but there is definitely
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a set few that have been held back by it
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over the years.
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Listen, all the best with it, I think, keep flying
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the flag and yeah, like I'll definitely come and try
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and check out some of your streams because I think
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called such an exciting game and it's it's a really
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fun game as well, I think, and even when you
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hear the cod esports going on at the Sports World Cup,
767
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it's such a great esport to watch as well. So
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I think, yeah, all the best at buddy, Yeah, appreciate it,
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thank you.
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I'm a good one.