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I have a radical idea. We'll cross the streams.
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Excuse me, gun, you said crossing the streams was bad?
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Crosses the Streams.
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Hello once again, everybody, and welcome back to a special
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episode of Crossing Streams, your weekly television streaming podcast down
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to Southern California. Craig Elston Chris read here with you
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for episode number two sixty four.
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Of Crossing Streams.
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And for the third time this year, Chris, we get
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an opportunity to branch out of the review sphere and
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get into the interview sphere. And I'm really excited about
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this one.
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I'm absolutely thrilled for this one. This one is a
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reunion for me with an absolutely lovely, incredibly talented performer
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that I got to work with on stage, got to
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know over a couple of months of rehearsals and performances
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at the La Jolla Playhouse doing a very whimsical production
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of Midsummer ninth stream in twenty.
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Ten, and that is Amelia Campbell. Amelia, welcome to the program.
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Thank you so much, Thank you guys for having me.
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It's a real pleasure.
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Now.
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Amelia played Amanda on the Chair Company. We're going to
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be getting into the Chair Company and everything from how
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you got involved in the project, casting, so on and
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so forth.
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As we get things started.
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You know, we'll keep things a little general, but if
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we get into anything spoilery, we'll let you know.
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But I'll just stay right at the top. For the audience,
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this is.
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A show interviewing Amelia about the Chair Company. So if
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you've watched the show, you're way better off. And if
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you haven't watched the show, this is the perfect time
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to press pause and finish this crazy show and then
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come on back and enjoy the interview and enjoy the time.
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So let's get into it, Amelia, and let me just
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start super super broad. What was your relationship coming into
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let's just say twenty twenty five with Tim Robinson's content
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with either I Think you Should Leave or anything else.
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What was your thoughts your relationship to Tim Robinson.
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Yeah, I had seen many of I Think you should
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Leave episodes. I'd also seen some of the Detroiters, which
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he's also a part of, and so when I saw
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the casting for this show, which was his name and
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Adam McKay's name, I jumped at the chance to get
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to be in on it, even if it was just
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a little bit because I just love love their kind
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of humor, their take on the world, and I really
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really want to do more comedy. So I was kindled.
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Did you get a breakdown sent to you for Amanda
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for a self tape or how did that come about?
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Yeah, well it was through my agents. It was a
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self tape and it was I actually don't remember what
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the breakdown said. The only specific thing I remember directorially
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was that although it was a comedy, everything was to
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be played straight. Yeah, and I was given the one scene,
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which is the scene in the pilot, the first episode,
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which at the time that's all there was. It was
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just that first episode, and I literally had about fifteen minutes.
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I was running out the door. I'm also a teacher,
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and I was running out the door to teach and Tony,
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my husband, who's also an actor and teaches with me.
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I turned to him and I said, look what this
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is is we have to make this happen. And so
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thankfully it actually specifically said that it didn't need to
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be memorized. So I put on certain clothes that I
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thought were right and I just just threw it. I
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did a couple of maybe two takes and sent it.
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In awesome with the sides in your hand. Yes, Yes,
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was the HR scene remind me.
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Yeah, it's the scene after the chair falls.
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Falls and you're in the meeting and you're talking about it. Okay,
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So this is like in the actual weeds of things
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in the latest Sag after a collective bargaining agreement. This
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is something that got fought for that you could have
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the sides in your hand, because before that, it was
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drilled into us that it was expected our performance needed
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to be off book and if you're doing a self tape,
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you need to have it known. So that kind of
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rushed a lot of us into a different into putting
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tapes together that we you know, weren't exactly thrilled with
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because where you can see us trying to memorize our lines,
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and you found that you were able to. I am
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assuming find a little freedom in having having you know,
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not having to worry about it.
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I'll be honest, I don't know that I would have
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done it because I had so little time and I knew,
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I knew that it needed to have a certain rhythm
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and pace to it that normally I would think was
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would be rushed. And I just thought, all right, I'm
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just gonna thankfully, I can do it, do it as is.
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So that was a great gift. And now now, as
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you said, now with after the strike, since the the
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contract has been fixed for us, they can no longer
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actually legally ask us to memorize.
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Well see that that's the kind of thing that you
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guys would know that I would have apps no idea.
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So yeah, well it's it's actually very interesting because it
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was never like an official thing like in a contract
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lines must be memorized.
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I think it really largely, if I'm not mistaken, came
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out of the pandemic when we were all having to
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do everything on tape and there was this there's this
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kind of performative element to you know, the difference between
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if you're looking down at pages or really looking at
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your fellow actor. And so, but that goes into a
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whole other conversation.
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It does. Maybe we can get maybe get a little
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bit at the end, but we got a talk chair company. Yeah,
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because in that pilot you become a rather central figure
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and you get one of the most quotable lines of
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the entire show for me, which I have already started
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adding whenever something unfortunate happens which is on my birthday,
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and that.
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Was not in the original audition. They added that afterwards.
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Uh so you went, you auditioned, you got offered the part.
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You guys then went to shot the shoot the pilot.
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And what timeline was this happening on?
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Well, excuse me, we actually, uh, I was invited to
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the table read, which is almost unheard of. It's very
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very unusual for you know, secondary actors supporting characters to
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be invited to the table read it. And it really
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made a huge difference because I felt like because of that,
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we every everybody got to meet each other. So we
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did the table read and then you know, I get
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I think it was not long after I got the
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part that we filmed it. I'm not I would have
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to look back at my calendar to tell you specifically,
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but they have They had a building in Queens where
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they filmed the pilot and then they filmed the series,
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So I don't know, I don't know specifics timeline wise.
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How long was it between islot in series pickup?
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Almost a year?
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then this spring into summer we shot this year the
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first series first season.
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That's remarkable because you would just kind of, I don't know,
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I guess from the outside you would think that someone
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like Tim Robinson, HBO, he's got a plan, you know
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that that's going to just get picked up right away.
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But I know that as a working actor, you are
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very used to that hurry up and wait, right Amelia,
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I actually a number of years ago, I got offered
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a role in a film and then then heard nothing
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for almost two years, and then got the call because
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they had lost money. But you know, in this instance,
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it could also be that both Tim Robinson and our
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director Andrew de Young live in la and they shot
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it here in the East Coast, and they wanted to
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use all the same crew that they had used for
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the pilot. So there may also been some scheduling issues
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there as well. But it isn't that unusual for a
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time to to to take that long.
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It was. They sure picked up season two pretty quickly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that before before the eighth episode,
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because I watched it each week as they came out,
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you know, the eighth episode, which I know we will
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get to.
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Yeah, well, let me just because I got so many questions,
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but sure, let's talk about that in particular, like what's
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your level of surprise each week waiting for this show
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to come out and watching it?
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Well, I'll say that I was actually for the first
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few that I was in, I was thrilled because it
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was one of the rare times where what I filmed
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was exactly what came across. Yeah, I've done so many
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things that I was cut out of, or that I
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did scenes that weren't in or you know. So there
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was only one scene that I had filmed that was
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supposed to be early on that wasn't in there, but
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they did end up using it for the last episode.
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what I thought I would see, except for the for
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the eighth episode that was that that was one hundred
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percent surprise.
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Was there much secrecy involved? Because this is such kind
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of a twist attorney show? Like did you get full
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episode scripts?
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I got full episode scripts of the ones I was in. Yeah,
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so yeah, so, but we when the initial had addition,
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we had to sign an NDA sure so, which gave
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which made me a little bit gunshy in terms of
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even just saying to you guys, I don't want to
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do any kind of you know, spoiler spoiler alerts, but yes, already.
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You know, absolutely no, those are scary documents. They ask
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for your address, they know where you live.
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Yeah, And you know, you also want to be respectful
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of the other artists and them them, you know, they
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have their reasons, you know, and so and I appreciate
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that because with social media, people can go nuts posting.
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Stuff, right, you know, Well, there's always a method to madness,
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and the madness of the Chair Company I'm sure had
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a very fastidious method behind it. So I'm curious on
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a scale of improv to David Fincher right where every
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word is locked in and you're going to do the
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twenty second take because you didn't pause your breath the
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exact amount of time that he expects. How locked down
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were the scripts and the shooting for the Chair Company.
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Was this like we're gonna hit beat by beat word
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by word or was there a lot of room within
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for improvisation and for spontaneity.
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Well, for my character, there was no improv. There may
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have been some for some of the longer scenes, the
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more people who were there for longer periods, but from
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what I gathered from reading the scripts and then from
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seeing it, it seems to me that they pretty much
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stuck to it. I will say that for one of
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my scenes, I was given alternate dialogue, so they filmed
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it one way, and then they filmed it with the
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alternate dialogue, and then that then that then it was
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left up to them which one they wanted to choose.
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But there was there was actually no improvisation on my
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end that said that. There was definitely a feeling of
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a lived in it didn't. It wasn't feeling like this
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is strict you know, Yeah, you know, nothing about holding
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waiting on your on your breath or something like that. So, uh,
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I think I think it has an improvisitory feeling. But
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I also think there might be a bit of a
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misnomer out there that's that there's a lot of improv
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in this kind of thing. It's actually pretty rare from
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my experience anyway.
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Yeah, same the same with mine. But I do feel
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like you there's a little bit more air for the
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things room for things changing when the creator of the
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show is in there with the room in the room
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doing it with you all the time. Was there kind
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of a safety in that knowing just uh that he
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would know what he wants and he was right there
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and the answer was read available.
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Yeah. Absolutely, And actually there was one a crowd scene
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I was a part of that ended up being cut
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down quite a bit, but they did. They were doing
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a lot of bits for that part, and then I
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think they might have ended up with like one teeny
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little snippet of an hour or two's worth of bits. Yeah,
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that can happen.
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To yeah, yeah, continuing on here, did you have any
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idea and again this is not exactly spoilery, but just
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a band does an important character on the show. Band
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winds up being quite an important character on the show.
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Did you have any sense of that coming into it?
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That hold on, I'm not just getting as you said earlier,
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like you were at the table read you know, like
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this is actually a pretty significant part.
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Well in terms of the ending. No, As I said earlier,
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I was one hundred percent surprised Tony and I were
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sitting there. Well, let's see. You know, as far as
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I knew my last season, my last scene was in
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seasons was in episode six. But since I knew it
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was being picked up and I wanted to see how
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the show ended. I hadn't read the scripts for the
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last two, you know, and we're watching it and I
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hear my character's name, and I turned to Tony and
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I said, wait a minute, that's me, And all of
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a sudden they were talking about my character and my
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chin could not have been closer to the door.
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Did you Probably?
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I don't know if I made a noise, but I
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rewound and watched it, I think three times because I
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was just like, did I just see what I saw?
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So to answer your question, I know I had no
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idea I had. There was one thing. The director at
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one point said we have some fun things in mind
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for Amanda, So there was that was the only sort
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of allusion to maybe something is coming up. But I
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think maybe I thought that was for if there were
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going to be another season or something. I don't know.
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I don't know what. I just thought, Oh, well, that's interesting.
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I hope I get to find out what it is.
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Is it you've been doing this for decades, Amanda, and
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you've been teaching it for decades, and with I'm so
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sorry it happens, I'm where, Oh my.
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God, it's pretty funny actually, because that's supposed to be me.
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I did that.
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It's an easy, easy one.
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Sorry, you've taught for decades. Does it get any like
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because they give you so little information when you're a
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part and you show up on set, you know that
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a lot. It sounds like, do you have the direct
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to the same director for all eight episodes of this?
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No?
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Although I think I think he did direct three of
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the episodes I was in.
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Okay, So like there's there's you know, change in there
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and they don't give you a lot. I guess my
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question would be, I guess the question would be, does
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it get easier making decisions that you bold decisions? Like
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on the set, like in an audition, in a self tape?
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That's kind of easy because you don't have a director.
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But when you're on the set and you have a
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job to do in a certain amount of time and
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there's a day to make, there can be a lot
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of pressure there. Has that pressure decreased over time for you?
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And was this job an easier one or a hard
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one for that? In that regard?
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Well, so I'll just start with this job. I I
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don't know. There's something about when I got the audition
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and I had so little time to think about it
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and I just jumped in and did it. It kind
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of set the tone for myself with this. I felt like,
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if I'm jumping in and doing it and they're responding
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to that, then there's something about that attitude that is
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also going to be working on set, if that makes sense.
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So there was a sense of let's see what this
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is going to be, which I have been finding as
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a teacher. I've been teaching on camera consistently for over
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three years now and on and off before that. I
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have found that really there's there's a lot to knowing
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how to act, but there's almost equally amount the amount
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of attitude and breathing and and fun and joy of
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being there, you know. So I think I went knowing
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I don't. I don't know a lot of things, but
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neither do they. But they hired me, so I'm the one.
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And then I think a lot of it is actually
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you find out in costumes, like what they've picked for
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you to wear, how they do your hair, and also
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just I don't know, there's a kind of a I
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think of it a kind of a spiritual thing of
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like just being that having that extra awareness of what
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else what everyone else is doing, that you're seeing how
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you fit into that and and and being a team player,
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which I'm I've again, I think because I also live
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with filmmaker, I'm really aware of when I'm on a
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set of all what all these other people are doing.
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There's all these other people that are making the same
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thing you are, So there's a there's a team effort
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and a play effort, and it's it takes a lot
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of the pressure off of oh, I'm the actor and
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now now everything can start. You know. That's actually that's
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actually a terrible attitude because really, you know, they've been
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doing all this stuff before you've even shown up on set,
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you know. So, yeah, I don't know if that answers
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your question.
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It does like it wasn't a very well formed question.
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It was kind of it was very PLATOI but I
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think you you you hardened it quite well.
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Plato as in plato or played played doh.
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Oh, definitely not plato as in platonic. Definitely as in
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plato as in with probably in my shirt right now
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from my three and six year olds.
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Oh oh my gosh, I'm sure.
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So one of the things I was thinking about, because
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you know, working on a comedy, right there's the comedy
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where that's all punch up, funny lines, delivering punchlines, comic timing, right,
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And then there's a show like this where a lot
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of the comedy comes from discomfort, from absurdity, from just
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absolutely way out there, you know, as Chris knows Pepper
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patty balls.
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You know, I'm not worried about pepper patty balls.
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Yeah, Like I'm just wondering, like, when you're in the
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process of doing this, is everyone laughing, is like you
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know what I'm saying because it's not necessarily funny what
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you're saying, but it's funny when it's put together.
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It's absurd, that's for sure.
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Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. Someone else was asking me about this.
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Was it hard to keep a straight face when you
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when you did the thing with the muffin, for example,
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you know, honestly no, because it was it was completely
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real and serious for me to do it. I mean,
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you know, I think about it, and certainly at the
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table reads, and that's where you know, that was one
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of another benefit of the table reads was we got
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to laugh out loud at you know, all this stuff
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that was funny, and we got to find out what
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was funny, which I think is probably a great benefit
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to I encourage you know, everyone out there, do table reads,
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bring your actors on. Yes, I know it's extra money,
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but anyway, I you know, I think chances are there
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was laughter. But thankfully the the the like video Village
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and all that was a little bit farther off because
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a lot of what we filmed, they had a set
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for the offices, so the camera and the ca and
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the direc actor could be, you know, in a whole
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other room and they could be you know, they might
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have been laughing, but certainly we couldn't hear it while
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we were.
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Filming incredible stuff.
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Yeah, I just it's one of those things I think
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to myself, like, how many times do you get stopped
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because you're recognizing the humor of the moment. But you've
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got to be, as you said, you've got to play
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it straight. You've got to be pissed off at him
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and harboring your old grudges and everything else, and you
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got to kind of hold that in tight, right.
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Yeah. I mean, I don't know that I thought of
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it as harboring grudges. I don't know that it was
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I don't old buddy. Oh sorry, Tony forgot to feed them,
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so you might be hearing some some muse.
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We are used to animal noises on this show, believe
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it or not. Yeah, usually the pug.
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Yeah, sometimes Sammy, Sammy the pug. Here the gardener's gonna
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die and he gets very, very upset during the show.
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So, oh, I'm so sorry. I completely forgot what your
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question was.
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Me too, So let's just well what it was was
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it was after the breaking question. Oh, it was just no,
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it was about you know, you were thinking about your Yeah, yeah,
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like the characters.
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Yeah.
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No, well see that's another thing because remember I didn't
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know how it was ending. I didn't I didn't have
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any of that background my mind. It was really just,
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you know, to me, it was I don't know if
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he purposely or accidentally looked up my skirt. But I'm
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gonna just I'm gonna I'm gonna let them know, you know,
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because it was my birthday.
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Oh, such a home run of a live delivery. How
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many takes? Was the chair breaking scene while we're on that? Like?
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Was that was that a whole afternoon? Yeah?
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No, that was you know, because they did, you know,
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because it was a big group, so they did they
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did a couple of different angles and the actual when
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he actually had to sit and fall. I'm not sure
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how many of those they did from from my experience
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in general, there weren't a whole lot of takes. It
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moved pretty quickly, not not so quickly that I felt like,
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oh I didn't have enough time. But but but they
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they definitely kept it moving. But it didn't feel rushed
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at all. It just they got they got what they needed,
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so they they I think they filmed, you know, the
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whole room where they where he fell, and then there
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were a few different angles of from our points of
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view and stuff like that.
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They did the wides and then came in for coverage.
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As they say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So I had a vision of like twenty different tech
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of chairs just being destroyed.
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One after another. Let's get more were taken. He's like, well,
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my lower back hurts now I've crashed twelve times in
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a row.
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Yeah, actually that I mean, I'm sure that was part
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of it, was not wanting him to have to fall
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more times than he needed to.
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Yeah, there was a prop house in New York that
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did quite well on their chairs for this show. Like
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they made a fair amount of money on just read
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to go out the same chair by the dozens and dozens.
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Well, I think it was just the one chair. They
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just had certain things that were loose.
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Oh, I mean later later on because yea, gotcha.
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Okay, I don't want to give away any tricks of
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the trade.
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No, for sure, for sure.
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I had to do it. I did a play Steve
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Martin's Magic Tricks, and I had to sign a magician
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and nda saying give away any of the of the tricks.
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Oh, I love it.
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Yeah. I had some friends get really mad at me
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for not telling not telling them how the trick worked.
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It's it's the magician's code. Oh my goodness.
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Well, a lot of the comedy within your character and
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the Tim Robinson character, of course, comes via human relations HR.
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And there's a there's really just some delicious HR comedy
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in the first season of The Chair Company. And I
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feel like just about everyone has had some sort of
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annoying HR interaction.
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In their life.
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What's your most annoying HR interaction? That's a funny story
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to share.
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Well, I saw that you were gonna ask me that
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I actually have never worked in an office. I did
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my share of waiting tables and food service. I worked
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in a make your own pottery store once. I did
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you know, telesales, but I have I am, thankfully have
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never actually worked in an office. In films and TV,
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I have, but not in real life.
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Yeah, that's that's my security guards story. I got it. Like,
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I played security guards a lot, but I've never been one.
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That's what they look at this and they go, yeah,
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put him at the game. Incredible. I should have. I
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guess I should have anticipated that. But you never know.
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I mean, I don't know.
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You might have at some point been in an office
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doing something along the way.
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Sure in the theater they call it company management, Craig,
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so it might have. She might have had some serious
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meetings with the company management team at some point or another.
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But yeah, yeah, nothing comes to mind, though.
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I believe it perfectly.
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Okay, I could share my awkward HRM moments, but we'll
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just think that for a nothing nothing too bad, nothing
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too bad, audience, don't get don't get your imagination spinning
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out of control. Well, Chair Company has been picked up.
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Season two is coming, and obviously that's uh. Probably as
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you said, rewinding it three times, uh, when you found
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out that your boyfriend who has some crazy plastic surgery
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going on.
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Or something or something or something or something or something
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that that I would imagine fingers crossed augurs well for
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00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:47.880
Amelia Campbell going forward.
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Yeah, I I I don't know. I don't have an
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answer to that. I hope, so, I hope. So I'd
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like to have a say in whether that person's my
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boyfriend or No.
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I don't.
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00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.839
No, no, I mean, listen, you know, it's clearly anything
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any anything goes at this point. I do love the
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00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.240
fact that it that it turns into a kind of
506
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:18.680
a paranormal Uh, there's a there's a whole new spin
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00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.720
to that that opens many more doors, which I love.
508
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.799
So I'm excited to see it. I mean, obviously I
509
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:28.319
would be thrilled to be a part of it, but
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I'm also just excited to see what they come up with.
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00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:35.119
It. As you said, it could be anything. This show
512
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.599
hurt my head so many times with its like distortion
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of reality, and as you know Tim's character, mister Ron,
514
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his head might be hurting all the time. We don't
515
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:50.920
really know. But at the end of the day, I
516
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.759
don't think I think this is going to be the
517
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:58.759
most quotable show I watched in twenty twenty five without
518
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:01.839
a doubt, and it's so certainly has left an impression,
519
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:05.039
and getting to see you pop up on a near
520
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:08.799
weekly basis was a gift. And one of the thing
521
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:13.880
that I like the best about it, mayor say love
522
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:18.759
about it, is this show has cast a lot of
523
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:24.799
folks who I would say are more everyday people looking.
524
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.720
You know, this isn't stuff full of models and influencers.
525
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:35.839
It's stuffed full of like raftsmen, actors and people who
526
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.440
otherwise might have a hard time getting several episodes on
527
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:43.160
a TV show. And I really love that about it.
528
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:46.359
Here here I remember having that on the very first
529
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.519
day of shooting, just looking around, looking at the set
530
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:54.839
and seeing just exactly that just all shape, sizes, colors, ages.
531
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.079
I actually was really felt I was just full of
532
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:03.200
of of of warmth and love because of that. It
533
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.759
might sound sort of goofy, but I really was. It
534
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.599
was really, really, really refreshing.
535
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:15.000
Well, I absolutely loved the chair Company, and we could
536
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:21.839
keep talking about it, but this interview was at its limit, fast.
537
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:26.559
Limit. I do want to ask about one other experience
538
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:35.160
on your resume. Okay, you were in what has become
539
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:39.000
like it was my closest, like, it's one of my
540
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:44.039
big fish that got off. Did you go to Pittsburgh
541
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:45.519
to shoot mind Hunter?
542
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.960
I did, Yes, I did a fincher of.
543
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:51.759
Fincher Yeah, and Craig's questions.
544
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.319
I saw that Fincher did not direct my episode.
545
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:56.880
Oh did you get to meet him in any it
546
00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:59.319
was he was He was.
547
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.640
In another location shooting another episode at the time, so
548
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:04.559
I didn't. I didn't get God.
549
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.680
Yeah, I'd imagine there were all sorts of units because
550
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:11.359
I was a wide ranging show. I was pinned for
551
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:17.680
a couple months on mine Hunter for the big serial
552
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:21.799
killer man I can't remember his name, Kemper, and Kemper
553
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:28.519
and Cameron went on to like absolutely destroy that role.
554
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.960
I remember turning it on. I don't usually watch things
555
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.200
I didn't get, you know, for my sanity and well being,
556
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.640
but I had to see who they put in that body,
557
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:42.160
and he was, you know. I remember just thinking like, Oh,
558
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:45.160
they found the guy who's the best on earth to
559
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:45.920
play this part.
560
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:50.440
They found him there he is Yeah, yeah, yeah.
561
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:53.759
But was that Did you have a did you have
562
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:56.440
a semblance of how solid that script was? What did
563
00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:58.880
you do on it? How many takes did you do.
564
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.000
I guess Fincher wasn't directing, so you didn't have to
565
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:02.680
worry about.
566
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:06.559
The No, No, we still we shot it was six
567
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.800
pages and we shot it. No, it was three and
568
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:12.239
a half pages, and we shot it for six hours.
569
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:18.719
Oh and we did every every take, was the entire
570
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:22.800
scene over and over again, from one to I think
571
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:30.360
there were four cameras. Yeah, not mistaken, and we just
572
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.320
did the same. The only direction I got was at
573
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:36.320
one point they were doing a close up of one
574
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.840
of the actors and I was doing a little more
575
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:42.199
directly to him than I had done and all the
576
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:43.519
other takes.
577
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.719
And they caught it. The script supervisor was like, wow,
578
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:50.119
that sounds so challenging and so fun.
579
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it was. It was cool. I
580
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.599
actually I was. That was one of the only other
581
00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:59.280
times I was invited to a table read. They flew
582
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.800
me there for a costume fitting and also just to
583
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.760
read through the scene. And actually, funnily enough, Holt mcalleny
584
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:10.079
I knew Holt when he when I first moved to
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00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:15.599
the city. I knew Holt Mcallenie. Uh. He dated my
586
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.639
roommate very very briefly, and so it was really really
587
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.880
fun reunion to see him, and then there was there
588
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:27.639
was actually a change to the scene between when we
589
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.639
did the table read and then filmed it. It was
590
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:36.519
a little bit I think maybe my so I played
591
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:41.199
the character of the wife of a suspect, and I
592
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:45.360
think at one point the suspect was guilty and then wasn't,
593
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:48.239
and so there was some there was some change in there.
594
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.199
So it was slightly different than the one that I
595
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:54.639
originally got cast in, but it was still the same,
596
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.639
still the same scene. So I my scene is in
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00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:02.119
an interrogation room being questioned about my husband's guilt.
598
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.320
Oh my goodness, I just want to there's a through
599
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:10.599
line between quality, compelling shows and it's table reads and
600
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.159
rehearsals are good and you should pay for them.
601
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:17.360
Seriously, really, it's true, It's really worth it. Because I
602
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.519
showed up in both cases, I felt like I already
603
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:24.320
had gone through the kind of nerves of am I said, accepted,
604
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.159
Am I welcome And that was already so by the
605
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:30.119
time I was on set, that was a big worry
606
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.000
that was removed for me.
607
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:36.039
I love it. I hope you know you are accepted
608
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:42.840
and welcome here, Amelia, and if hopefully we can repeat
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00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.440
this again next year or a year and a half,
610
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.440
whatever they do. Who knows the.
611
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.400
Yeah, Yeah, I'm so appreciative of you all, and I'm
612
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:56.199
excited to listen to your other episodes. And Chris, it's
613
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:58.800
so great to see you again. Thank you for thinking
614
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:03.320
of me. Our time on Midsummer was so was such
615
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:04.239
a delight for me.
616
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.599
It was. Yeah, I think about that cast all the time,
617
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.760
and I did scream when I first saw your face.
618
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:16.119
It made me so happy. You know, I hadn't gone
619
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:19.239
to the IMDb or anything. It was just a pure surprise.
620
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.760
And I sometimes get texts from people. I got one
621
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.960
while we were recording this as somebody who saw something
622
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.880
and I popped up and it brings them joy. It
623
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.000
brings me joy to do it. And just you know,
624
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:35.280
knowing you got a great gig on a big show
625
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:38.239
just makes me so thrilled that you know you're being
626
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.599
recognized for that you are. And I did see that
627
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:45.280
some of your classes are remote, so you might see
628
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:48.119
me popping up your class.
629
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:51.440
I don't have currently, not okay.
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00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:53.239
So I might have seen an old one. Well, I
631
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:55.760
hope you do them, because I know what kind of
632
00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:00.280
artists you are and you know people can learn a
633
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.159
lot from you. Is there anything you want to plug
634
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:03.719
on your personal end like that?
635
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.559
Oh my gosh, we thank you for actually that. That's
636
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:08.800
a great nudge because we've had a few other people
637
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:11.559
ask if we do any remote and we've been talking
638
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:14.320
about maybe just doing something on our own, not through
639
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:18.920
a school, but yeah, absolutely, Tony and I both teach.
640
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.639
We teach it on camera, our monikers being on camera,
641
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:25.760
and we teach both being on camera one and being
642
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.760
on camera two at HB Studio in New York City.
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That's Hbstudio dot org. We're going to be teaching those
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00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:38.320
in January, and then we have an ongoing audition on
645
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:42.920
camera audition workshop at the Freeman Studio It's I think
646
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:47.320
it's the Freeman Studio dot com, and those start back
647
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:51.079
up again in January. We teach a Monday morning class
648
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:54.559
and a Thursday night class. All of those classes are
649
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:55.679
in person.
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00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.840
Which is miss yah with other acts so much.
651
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:03.519
A lot of people will come in and say that
652
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:05.599
was It's the first time they are actually reading with
653
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.239
a live human being, which is makes a big difference.
654
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:13.639
Have you found it challenging since the pandemic, you know,
655
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.079
to do the self tapes.
656
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:18.880
I'm I'm very lucky. I have a built in partner.
657
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You know, we read, we read for each other, and
658
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:25.119
he's also as you can see, he's got all the
659
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:28.639
equipment because he's a filmmaker, so you know, we've played
660
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around with angles and lights and you know. So I
661
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:34.760
am one of the very lucky few who I don't
662
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.320
have to every time, every time I need someone to
663
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.679
read with, I have I have that person. So I
664
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:42.760
know that's a big challenge.
665
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:44.840
Yeah, a lot of folks.
666
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.559
So they're they're they're partner is not an actor, and
667
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:50.920
and that can be challenging in itself.
668
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.760
But yeah, yeah, Well i feel like I've learned so
669
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.599
much just here and the two of you chat through
670
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.519
you know, the experience in the process of all of this.
671
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:03.760
And I'm really really thankful for your time here as
672
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:08.440
we record on a weekend as well. Amelia really appreciate it. Unfortunately,
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pieces of metal are moving capassively around my studio.
674
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:20.519
I'm sorry. I need to practice learning because sometimes it
675
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:25.599
happens without me really even knowing. So I'm glad to
676
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:28.119
know that it can cover this distance, I mean, all
677
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the way out there.
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00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:33.039
Wow, your wizardry has reach.
679
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:41.079
Good to know, Amelia, thank you.
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00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:43.079
Well, hey, hang on before we before we wrap.
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We always end every show with a segment that's very,
682
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very simple. It's called what We're watching, and it's an
683
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.519
opportunity to kind of ping off of one another a
684
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:55.840
show that maybe one is watching that the other is not,
685
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:01.360
and usually sets the stage for future episodes of our program.
686
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:04.360
So I'm just curious, what have you been watching?
687
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:15.920
Wow? I we probably watch a movie and night. But
688
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:18.599
I'm trying to think of I wish i'd known, because
689
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:20.599
I should have should have guessed you'd ask me this
690
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:23.840
question because we've we've seen some really good stuff and
691
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:28.239
a lot of a lot of really bad stuff. I
692
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:33.039
uh shoot, now I'm not thinking of something really really
693
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smart on the spot, I'm on the spot.
694
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:38.679
Yeah, I should have thought about that. This is one
695
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:41.119
of our like it's so time honored. I don't even
696
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:43.519
think about asking it because we just do it like
697
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:46.760
every time. I should have thought about that. My apologies.
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00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:49.719
Well, I mean the thing that comes to mind show
699
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:56.159
wise is is adolescents. If you haven't seen it, uh
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you know, to know, I mean there's a whole converse
701
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.559
station we could have about that. The fact that it's
702
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:04.840
all in one take and how they did that, and
703
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:09.719
it's it's pretty extraordinary. We watch a lot of to
704
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:14.480
B to B TV to movies and create. The Criterion
705
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.000
Channel is a big favorite here. We've been watching a
706
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:23.280
lot of Johnny Toe, Who's Hong Kong director Johnny Toe
707
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:30.880
t Oh, and The Vast of Night is one of
708
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.079
my all time favorite films.
709
00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:39.960
Okay, recently, I would as far as the TV goes,
710
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:43.840
we're really high on Pluribus, as kind of everybody is.
711
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:45.639
But yeah, we don't have Apple TV.
712
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:48.079
Got It, got It? Got It?
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00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:51.480
Yeah, I saw the pilot of that. I would definitely
714
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:53.159
be watching that if we had Apple TV.
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00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.280
Well, if you need a password or something, Amelia, you know,
716
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:56.840
we can.
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00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.079
Hang on hold. And I didn't say that.
718
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.039
No, I'm hearing there there's some support of ice in
719
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:07.119
that in Apple right now, So I'm not so sure.
720
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:07.719
I want to know.
721
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:14.360
Yeah, goodness, yeah, every tech giant is corrupt, but I
722
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:15.199
think that's true.
723
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:17.480
We'd have to shut everything down.
724
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:19.800
Really yeah, yeah, pretty much.
725
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:23.199
We live in an era of you're either corrupt or corrupted,
726
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:25.159
corruption adjacent, you know.
727
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:30.159
So it's really surreal watching Walton Goggins on Fallout playing
728
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:33.480
a character that led to the apocalypse, and like looking
729
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:36.440
at his face on old billboards and feeling the shame
730
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:38.920
of that, and then cutting to a Walmart commercial with
731
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:40.039
Walton Goggins.
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00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:46.880
That's startling, It's weird. What are you watching, Craig.
733
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:52.639
I am currently in the midst of a binge of
734
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:57.559
Ken Burns The American Revolution, and it's so good that
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I've just like, literally, I've got the browser cab over here,
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and like when no, just like, you know, after this,
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when I hang up, Yeah, after this, when I go
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make you know, a bacon, egg and cheese and sit
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down for a brunch, I'll probably just you know, throw
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that on and find out how General Washington mismanaged the
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British attack on New York, which is where I was
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at last night before I went to bed.
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So I've been absolutely.
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Honestly, I've been trying to finish it before our Top
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ten episode that we record in a week or so,
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because I feel like it's probably one of the ten
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best things that's been made for television this year.
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It's just it's difficult to.
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Compare, you know, how do you rank The Chair Company,
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for example, next to The American Revolution?
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You know what I mean, it's like completely different projects.
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A funny conversation itself.
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Right, So like it's that's the that's the quandary that
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we do tie ourselves into a meal for the year
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end rankings. Is like, okay, Adolescence, which was my first
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half of the year number one show of twenty twenty five.
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We did a mid year top five and Adolescence was
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number one right there. But you know, now I'm thinking
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about so many other shows that were so good. I mean,
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Chris and I loved The Lowdown. If you never got
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to watch The Lowdown FX on Hulu, Sterlin Harjoe's project, well,
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I heard that they've got some question.
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We switched to Ulu for Criterion, so you know, but
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I know I would like there's some stuff on all
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of those that I'd like to see. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I can't have everything.
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Well, you know, you're actually living out the premise of
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crossing Streams, which is that there's no one person who
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can watch it all. So I always try and find
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those who share various interests, and Chris keeps up the
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best he can, and that's how that's how everything rolls.
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But Amelia, thank you so much for your time. We
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really appreciate it, especially on the weekend. I really appreciate
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the insight into the process of the Chair company, and
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we absolutely look forward to chatting to you down the road.
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Thank you. I'm definitely getting some messages from the cats
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that they need to their breakfast or.
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Lunch lunch fair enough.
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Well, you're three hours earlier.
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There, right, Yeah, we are mid morning right now, so
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no worries. Got the whole day ahead of us. Well,
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we've also got two more episodes of Crossing Streams before
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the end of the year. Chris and I will be
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back at the end of next week with our look
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at all of Purpose. We will look at episodes seven, eight,
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and nine and give you our series finale review, and
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then in the last week of the year, it will
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be the top ten TV shows of twenty twenty five.
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Chris's list, My list, honorable mentions, honorable honorable mentions. You know,
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how long can I drag my list out? Can I
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get it to twenty? Can I get the twenty five?
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We'll figure it out. And that is all still to
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come on the feed.
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So if you're.
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Enjoying what you heard, please leave us that five star review.
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Five star rating kind review. It always helps small content
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creators such as ourselves and for Amelia Campbell and Chris
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Read I'm Craig Elston. Hoping that you enjoy everything you
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watched this week and thanks for joining us on crossing streams.
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Ah ah ah ah
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Night, Love to Lose and Big Bears, Not the Night
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Father doing baby, just to be go Go to you
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right alonder, coming to me
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I have a radical idea. We'll cross the streams.
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Excuse me, gun, you said crossing the streams was bad?
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Crosses the Streams.
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Hello once again, everybody, and welcome back to a special
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episode of Crossing Streams, your weekly television streaming podcast down
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to Southern California. Craig Elston Chris read here with you
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for episode number two sixty four.
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Of Crossing Streams.
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And for the third time this year, Chris, we get
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an opportunity to branch out of the review sphere and
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get into the interview sphere. And I'm really excited about
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this one.
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I'm absolutely thrilled for this one. This one is a
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reunion for me with an absolutely lovely, incredibly talented performer
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that I got to work with on stage, got to
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know over a couple of months of rehearsals and performances
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at the La Jolla Playhouse doing a very whimsical production
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of Midsummer ninth stream in twenty.
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Ten, and that is Amelia Campbell. Amelia, welcome to the program.
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Thank you so much, Thank you guys for having me.
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It's a real pleasure.
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Now.
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Amelia played Amanda on the Chair Company. We're going to
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be getting into the Chair Company and everything from how
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you got involved in the project, casting, so on and
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so forth.
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As we get things started.
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You know, we'll keep things a little general, but if
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we get into anything spoilery, we'll let you know.
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But I'll just stay right at the top. For the audience,
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this is.
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A show interviewing Amelia about the Chair Company. So if
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you've watched the show, you're way better off. And if
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you haven't watched the show, this is the perfect time
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to press pause and finish this crazy show and then
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come on back and enjoy the interview and enjoy the time.
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So let's get into it, Amelia, and let me just
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start super super broad. What was your relationship coming into
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let's just say twenty twenty five with Tim Robinson's content
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with either I Think you Should Leave or anything else.
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What was your thoughts your relationship to Tim Robinson.
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Yeah, I had seen many of I Think you should
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Leave episodes. I'd also seen some of the Detroiters, which
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he's also a part of, and so when I saw
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the casting for this show, which was his name and
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Adam McKay's name, I jumped at the chance to get
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to be in on it, even if it was just
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a little bit because I just love love their kind
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of humor, their take on the world, and I really
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really want to do more comedy. So I was kindled.
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Did you get a breakdown sent to you for Amanda
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for a self tape or how did that come about?
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Yeah, well it was through my agents. It was a
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self tape and it was I actually don't remember what
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the breakdown said. The only specific thing I remember directorially
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was that although it was a comedy, everything was to
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be played straight. Yeah, and I was given the one scene,
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which is the scene in the pilot, the first episode,
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which at the time that's all there was. It was
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just that first episode, and I literally had about fifteen minutes.
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I was running out the door. I'm also a teacher,
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and I was running out the door to teach and Tony,
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my husband, who's also an actor and teaches with me.
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I turned to him and I said, look what this
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is is we have to make this happen. And so
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thankfully it actually specifically said that it didn't need to
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be memorized. So I put on certain clothes that I
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thought were right and I just just threw it. I
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did a couple of maybe two takes and sent it.
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In awesome with the sides in your hand. Yes, Yes,
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was the HR scene remind me.
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Yeah, it's the scene after the chair falls.
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Falls and you're in the meeting and you're talking about it. Okay,
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So this is like in the actual weeds of things
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in the latest Sag after a collective bargaining agreement. This
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is something that got fought for that you could have
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the sides in your hand, because before that, it was
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drilled into us that it was expected our performance needed
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to be off book and if you're doing a self tape,
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you need to have it known. So that kind of
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rushed a lot of us into a different into putting
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tapes together that we you know, weren't exactly thrilled with
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because where you can see us trying to memorize our lines,
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and you found that you were able to. I am
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assuming find a little freedom in having having you know,
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not having to worry about it.
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I'll be honest, I don't know that I would have
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done it because I had so little time and I knew,
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I knew that it needed to have a certain rhythm
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and pace to it that normally I would think was
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would be rushed. And I just thought, all right, I'm
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just gonna thankfully, I can do it, do it as is.
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So that was a great gift. And now now, as
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you said, now with after the strike, since the the
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contract has been fixed for us, they can no longer
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actually legally ask us to memorize.
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Wow.
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Well see that that's the kind of thing that you
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guys would know that I would have apps no idea.
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So yeah, well it's it's actually very interesting because it
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was never like an official thing like in a contract
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lines must be memorized.
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It.
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I think it really largely, if I'm not mistaken, came
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out of the pandemic when we were all having to
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do everything on tape and there was this there's this
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kind of performative element to you know, the difference between
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if you're looking down at pages or really looking at
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your fellow actor. And so, but that goes into a
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whole other conversation.
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It does. Maybe we can get maybe get a little
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bit at the end, but we got a talk chair company. Yeah,
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because in that pilot you become a rather central figure
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and you get one of the most quotable lines of
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the entire show for me, which I have already started
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adding whenever something unfortunate happens which is on my birthday,
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and that.
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Was not in the original audition. They added that afterwards.
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Uh so you went, you auditioned, you got offered the part.
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You guys then went to shot the shoot the pilot.
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And what timeline was this happening on?
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Well, excuse me, we actually, uh, I was invited to
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the table read, which is almost unheard of. It's very
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very unusual for you know, secondary actors supporting characters to
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be invited to the table read it. And it really
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made a huge difference because I felt like because of that,
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we every everybody got to meet each other. So we
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did the table read and then you know, I get
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I think it was not long after I got the
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part that we filmed it. I'm not I would have
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to look back at my calendar to tell you specifically,
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but they have They had a building in Queens where
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they filmed the pilot and then they filmed the series,
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So I don't know, I don't know specifics timeline wise.
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How long was it between islot in series pickup?
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Almost a year?
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Oh wow?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, So we shot the pilot summer before last and
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then this spring into summer we shot this year the
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first series first season.
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That's remarkable because you would just kind of, I don't know,
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I guess from the outside you would think that someone
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like Tim Robinson, HBO, he's got a plan, you know
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that that's going to just get picked up right away.
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But I know that as a working actor, you are
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very used to that hurry up and wait, right Amelia,
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Oh oh yeah.
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I actually a number of years ago, I got offered
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a role in a film and then then heard nothing
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for almost two years, and then got the call because
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they had lost money. But you know, in this instance,
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it could also be that both Tim Robinson and our
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director Andrew de Young live in la and they shot
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it here in the East Coast, and they wanted to
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use all the same crew that they had used for
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the pilot. So there may also been some scheduling issues
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there as well. But it isn't that unusual for a
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time to to to take that long.
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It was. They sure picked up season two pretty quickly.
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I will say that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that before before the eighth episode,
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because I watched it each week as they came out,
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you know, the eighth episode, which I know we will
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get to.
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Yeah, well, let me just because I got so many questions,
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but sure, let's talk about that in particular, like what's
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your level of surprise each week waiting for this show
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to come out and watching it?
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Well, I'll say that I was actually for the first
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few that I was in, I was thrilled because it
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was one of the rare times where what I filmed
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was exactly what came across. Yeah, I've done so many
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things that I was cut out of, or that I
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did scenes that weren't in or you know. So there
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was only one scene that I had filmed that was
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supposed to be early on that wasn't in there, but
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they did end up using it for the last episode.
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what I thought I would see, except for the for
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the eighth episode that was that that was one hundred
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percent surprise.
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of a twist attorney show? Like did you get full
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episode scripts?
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so yeah, so, but we when the initial had addition,
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we had to sign an NDA sure so, which gave
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which made me a little bit gunshy in terms of
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even just saying to you guys, I don't want to
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do any kind of you know, spoiler spoiler alerts, but yes, already.
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You know, absolutely no, those are scary documents. They ask
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for your address, they know where you live.
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of the other artists and them them, you know, they
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have their reasons, you know, and so and I appreciate
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that because with social media, people can go nuts posting.
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and the madness of the Chair Company I'm sure had
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a very fastidious method behind it. So I'm curious on
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a scale of improv to David Fincher right where every
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word is locked in and you're going to do the
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twenty second take because you didn't pause your breath the
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exact amount of time that he expects. How locked down
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were the scripts and the shooting for the Chair Company.
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Was this like we're gonna hit beat by beat word
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by word or was there a lot of room within
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for improvisation and for spontaneity.
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have been some for some of the longer scenes, the
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more people who were there for longer periods, but from
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what I gathered from reading the scripts and then from
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seeing it, it seems to me that they pretty much
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stuck to it. I will say that for one of
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my scenes, I was given alternate dialogue, so they filmed
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it one way, and then they filmed it with the
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alternate dialogue, and then that then that then it was
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left up to them which one they wanted to choose.
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end that said that. There was definitely a feeling of
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a lived in it didn't. It wasn't feeling like this
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is strict you know, Yeah, you know, nothing about holding
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waiting on your on your breath or something like that. So, uh,
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I think I think it has an improvisitory feeling. But
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I also think there might be a bit of a
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misnomer out there that's that there's a lot of improv
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in this kind of thing. It's actually pretty rare from
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my experience anyway.
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like you there's a little bit more air for the
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things room for things changing when the creator of the
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show is in there with the room in the room
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doing it with you all the time. Was there kind
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of a safety in that knowing just uh that he
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would know what he wants and he was right there
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and the answer was read available.
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Yeah. Absolutely, And actually there was one a crowd scene
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I was a part of that ended up being cut
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down quite a bit, but they did. They were doing
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a lot of bits for that part, and then I
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think they might have ended up with like one teeny
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little snippet of an hour or two's worth of bits. Yeah,
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that can happen.
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To yeah, yeah, continuing on here, did you have any
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idea and again this is not exactly spoilery, but just
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a band does an important character on the show. Band
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winds up being quite an important character on the show.
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Did you have any sense of that coming into it?
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That hold on, I'm not just getting as you said earlier,
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like you were at the table read you know, like
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this is actually a pretty significant part.
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Well in terms of the ending. No, As I said earlier,
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I was one hundred percent surprised Tony and I were
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sitting there. Well, let's see. You know, as far as
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I knew my last season, my last scene was in
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seasons was in episode six. But since I knew it
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was being picked up and I wanted to see how
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the show ended. I hadn't read the scripts for the
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last two, you know, and we're watching it and I
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hear my character's name, and I turned to Tony and
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I said, wait a minute, that's me, And all of
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a sudden they were talking about my character and my
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chin could not have been closer to the door.
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Did you Probably?
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I don't know if I made a noise, but I
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rewound and watched it, I think three times because I
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was just like, did I just see what I saw?
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idea I had. There was one thing. The director at
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one point said we have some fun things in mind
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for Amanda, So there was that was the only sort
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of allusion to maybe something is coming up. But I
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think maybe I thought that was for if there were
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going to be another season or something. I don't know.
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I don't know what. I just thought, Oh, well, that's interesting.
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I hope I get to find out what it is.
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Is it you've been doing this for decades, Amanda, and
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you've been teaching it for decades, and with I'm so
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sorry it happens, I'm where, Oh my.
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God, it's pretty funny actually, because that's supposed to be me.
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I did that.
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It's an easy, easy one.
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Sorry, you've taught for decades. Does it get any like
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because they give you so little information when you're a
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part and you show up on set, you know that
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a lot. It sounds like, do you have the direct
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to the same director for all eight episodes of this?
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Although I think I think he did direct three of
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the episodes I was in.
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Okay, So like there's there's you know, change in there
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and they don't give you a lot. I guess my
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question would be, I guess the question would be, does
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it get easier making decisions that you bold decisions? Like
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on the set, like in an audition, in a self tape?
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That's kind of easy because you don't have a director.
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But when you're on the set and you have a
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job to do in a certain amount of time and
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there's a day to make, there can be a lot
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of pressure there. Has that pressure decreased over time for you?
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And was this job an easier one or a hard
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one for that? In that regard?
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Well, so I'll just start with this job. I I
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don't know. There's something about when I got the audition
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and I had so little time to think about it
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and I just jumped in and did it. It kind
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of set the tone for myself with this. I felt like,
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if I'm jumping in and doing it and they're responding
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to that, then there's something about that attitude that is
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also going to be working on set, if that makes sense.
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So there was a sense of let's see what this
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is going to be, which I have been finding as
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a teacher. I've been teaching on camera consistently for over
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three years now and on and off before that. I
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have found that really there's there's a lot to knowing
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how to act, but there's almost equally amount the amount
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of attitude and breathing and and fun and joy of
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being there, you know. So I think I went knowing
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I don't. I don't know a lot of things, but
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neither do they. But they hired me, so I'm the one.
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And then I think a lot of it is actually
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you find out in costumes, like what they've picked for
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you to wear, how they do your hair, and also
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just I don't know, there's a kind of a I
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think of it a kind of a spiritual thing of
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like just being that having that extra awareness of what
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else what everyone else is doing, that you're seeing how
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you fit into that and and and being a team player,
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which I'm I've again, I think because I also live
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with filmmaker, I'm really aware of when I'm on a
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set of all what all these other people are doing.
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There's all these other people that are making the same
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thing you are, So there's a there's a team effort
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and a play effort, and it's it takes a lot
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of the pressure off of oh, I'm the actor and
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now now everything can start. You know. That's actually that's
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actually a terrible attitude because really, you know, they've been
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doing all this stuff before you've even shown up on set,
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you know. So, yeah, I don't know if that answers
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your question.
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It does like it wasn't a very well formed question.
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It was kind of it was very PLATOI but I
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think you you you hardened it quite well.
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Plato as in plato or played played doh.
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Oh, definitely not plato as in platonic. Definitely as in
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plato as in with probably in my shirt right now
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from my three and six year olds.
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Oh oh my gosh, I'm sure.
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So one of the things I was thinking about, because
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you know, working on a comedy, right there's the comedy
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where that's all punch up, funny lines, delivering punchlines, comic timing, right,
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And then there's a show like this where a lot
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of the comedy comes from discomfort, from absurdity, from just
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absolutely way out there, you know, as Chris knows Pepper
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patty balls.
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You know, I'm not worried about pepper patty balls.
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Yeah, Like I'm just wondering, like, when you're in the
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process of doing this, is everyone laughing, is like you
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know what I'm saying because it's not necessarily funny what
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you're saying, but it's funny when it's put together.
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It's absurd, that's for sure.
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Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. Someone else was asking me about this.
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Was it hard to keep a straight face when you
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when you did the thing with the muffin, for example,
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you know, honestly no, because it was it was completely
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real and serious for me to do it. I mean,
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you know, I think about it, and certainly at the
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table reads, and that's where you know, that was one
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of another benefit of the table reads was we got
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to laugh out loud at you know, all this stuff
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that was funny, and we got to find out what
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was funny, which I think is probably a great benefit
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to I encourage you know, everyone out there, do table reads,
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bring your actors on. Yes, I know it's extra money,
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but anyway, I you know, I think chances are there
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was laughter. But thankfully the the the like video Village
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and all that was a little bit farther off because
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a lot of what we filmed, they had a set
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for the offices, so the camera and the ca and
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the direc actor could be, you know, in a whole
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other room and they could be you know, they might
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have been laughing, but certainly we couldn't hear it while
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we were.
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Filming incredible stuff.
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Yeah, I just it's one of those things I think
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to myself, like, how many times do you get stopped
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because you're recognizing the humor of the moment. But you've
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got to be, as you said, you've got to play
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it straight. You've got to be pissed off at him
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and harboring your old grudges and everything else, and you
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got to kind of hold that in tight, right.
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Yeah. I mean, I don't know that I thought of
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it as harboring grudges. I don't know that it was
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I don't old buddy. Oh sorry, Tony forgot to feed them,
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so you might be hearing some some muse.
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We are used to animal noises on this show, believe
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it or not. Yeah, usually the pug.
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Yeah, sometimes Sammy, Sammy the pug. Here the gardener's gonna
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die and he gets very, very upset during the show.
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So, oh, I'm so sorry. I completely forgot what your
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question was.
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Me too, So let's just well what it was was
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it was after the breaking question. Oh, it was just no,
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it was about you know, you were thinking about your Yeah, yeah,
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like the characters.
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No, well see that's another thing because remember I didn't
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know how it was ending. I didn't I didn't have
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any of that background my mind. It was really just,
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you know, to me, it was I don't know if
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he purposely or accidentally looked up my skirt. But I'm
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gonna just I'm gonna I'm gonna let them know, you know,
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because it was my birthday.
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Oh, such a home run of a live delivery. How
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many takes? Was the chair breaking scene while we're on that? Like?
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Was that was that a whole afternoon? Yeah?
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No, that was you know, because they did, you know,
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because it was a big group, so they did they
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did a couple of different angles and the actual when
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he actually had to sit and fall. I'm not sure
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how many of those they did from from my experience
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in general, there weren't a whole lot of takes. It
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moved pretty quickly, not not so quickly that I felt like,
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oh I didn't have enough time. But but but they
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00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:38.279
they definitely kept it moving. But it didn't feel rushed
426
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at all. It just they got they got what they needed,
427
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so they they I think they filmed, you know, the
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whole room where they where he fell, and then there
429
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.319
were a few different angles of from our points of
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view and stuff like that.
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They did the wides and then came in for coverage.
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As they say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.640
So I had a vision of like twenty different tech
434
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of chairs just being destroyed.
435
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One after another. Let's get more were taken. He's like, well,
436
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:12.799
my lower back hurts now I've crashed twelve times in
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a row.
438
00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:16.599
Yeah, actually that I mean, I'm sure that was part
439
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:18.960
of it, was not wanting him to have to fall
440
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:20.839
more times than he needed to.
441
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:24.640
Yeah, there was a prop house in New York that
442
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did quite well on their chairs for this show. Like
443
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they made a fair amount of money on just read
444
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:35.000
to go out the same chair by the dozens and dozens.
445
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.279
Well, I think it was just the one chair. They
446
00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:41.880
just had certain things that were loose.
447
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:47.480
Oh, I mean later later on because yea, gotcha.
448
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:49.240
Okay, I don't want to give away any tricks of
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the trade.
450
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:52.400
No, for sure, for sure.
451
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:55.799
I had to do it. I did a play Steve
452
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Martin's Magic Tricks, and I had to sign a magician
453
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:05.119
and nda saying give away any of the of the tricks.
454
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:06.480
Oh, I love it.
455
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.319
Yeah. I had some friends get really mad at me
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for not telling not telling them how the trick worked.
457
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.000
It's it's the magician's code. Oh my goodness.
458
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:22.480
Well, a lot of the comedy within your character and
459
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:27.759
the Tim Robinson character, of course, comes via human relations HR.
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00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:33.359
And there's a there's really just some delicious HR comedy
461
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.920
in the first season of The Chair Company. And I
462
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.480
feel like just about everyone has had some sort of
463
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annoying HR interaction.
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In their life.
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What's your most annoying HR interaction? That's a funny story
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to share.
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00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:50.880
Well, I saw that you were gonna ask me that
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I actually have never worked in an office. I did
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my share of waiting tables and food service. I worked
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in a make your own pottery store once. I did
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00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:08.640
you know, telesales, but I have I am, thankfully have
472
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:12.359
never actually worked in an office. In films and TV,
473
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:15.200
I have, but not in real life.
474
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:23.119
Yeah, that's that's my security guards story. I got it. Like,
475
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:27.200
I played security guards a lot, but I've never been one.
476
00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:30.759
That's what they look at this and they go, yeah,
477
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:37.359
put him at the game. Incredible. I should have. I
478
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:40.160
guess I should have anticipated that. But you never know.
479
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:41.039
I mean, I don't know.
480
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You might have at some point been in an office
481
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doing something along the way.
482
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.680
Sure in the theater they call it company management, Craig,
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so it might have. She might have had some serious
484
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.519
meetings with the company management team at some point or another.
485
00:28:54.759 --> 00:29:00.039
But yeah, yeah, nothing comes to mind, though.
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I believe it perfectly.
487
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:06.079
Okay, I could share my awkward HRM moments, but we'll
488
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:09.319
just think that for a nothing nothing too bad, nothing
489
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:12.799
too bad, audience, don't get don't get your imagination spinning
490
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:18.240
out of control. Well, Chair Company has been picked up.
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Season two is coming, and obviously that's uh. Probably as
492
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:27.920
you said, rewinding it three times, uh, when you found
493
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:33.359
out that your boyfriend who has some crazy plastic surgery
494
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going on.
495
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:39.960
Or something or something or something or something or something
496
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.680
that that I would imagine fingers crossed augurs well for
497
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:47.880
Amelia Campbell going forward.
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00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:50.920
Yeah, I I I don't know. I don't have an
499
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:54.880
answer to that. I hope, so, I hope. So I'd
500
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:56.960
like to have a say in whether that person's my
501
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.240
boyfriend or No.
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00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:00.039
I don't.
503
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.839
No, no, I mean, listen, you know, it's clearly anything
504
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:11.400
any anything goes at this point. I do love the
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00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.240
fact that it that it turns into a kind of
506
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:18.680
a paranormal Uh, there's a there's a whole new spin
507
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.720
to that that opens many more doors, which I love.
508
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.799
So I'm excited to see it. I mean, obviously I
509
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:28.319
would be thrilled to be a part of it, but
510
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:30.799
I'm also just excited to see what they come up with.
511
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:35.119
It. As you said, it could be anything. This show
512
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.599
hurt my head so many times with its like distortion
513
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:43.599
of reality, and as you know Tim's character, mister Ron,
514
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:46.400
his head might be hurting all the time. We don't
515
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:50.920
really know. But at the end of the day, I
516
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.759
don't think I think this is going to be the
517
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:58.759
most quotable show I watched in twenty twenty five without
518
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:01.839
a doubt, and it's so certainly has left an impression,
519
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:05.039
and getting to see you pop up on a near
520
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:08.799
weekly basis was a gift. And one of the thing
521
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:13.880
that I like the best about it, mayor say love
522
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:18.759
about it, is this show has cast a lot of
523
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:24.799
folks who I would say are more everyday people looking.
524
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.720
You know, this isn't stuff full of models and influencers.
525
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:35.839
It's stuffed full of like raftsmen, actors and people who
526
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.440
otherwise might have a hard time getting several episodes on
527
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:43.160
a TV show. And I really love that about it.
528
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:46.359
Here here I remember having that on the very first
529
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.519
day of shooting, just looking around, looking at the set
530
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:54.839
and seeing just exactly that just all shape, sizes, colors, ages.
531
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.079
I actually was really felt I was just full of
532
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:03.200
of of of warmth and love because of that. It
533
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.759
might sound sort of goofy, but I really was. It
534
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.599
was really, really, really refreshing.
535
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:15.000
Well, I absolutely loved the chair Company, and we could
536
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:21.839
keep talking about it, but this interview was at its limit, fast.
537
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:26.559
Limit. I do want to ask about one other experience
538
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:35.160
on your resume. Okay, you were in what has become
539
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:39.000
like it was my closest, like, it's one of my
540
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:44.039
big fish that got off. Did you go to Pittsburgh
541
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:45.519
to shoot mind Hunter?
542
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.960
I did, Yes, I did a fincher of.
543
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:51.759
Fincher Yeah, and Craig's questions.
544
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.319
I saw that Fincher did not direct my episode.
545
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:56.880
Oh did you get to meet him in any it
546
00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:59.319
was he was He was.
547
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.640
In another location shooting another episode at the time, so
548
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:04.559
I didn't. I didn't get God.
549
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.680
Yeah, I'd imagine there were all sorts of units because
550
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:11.359
I was a wide ranging show. I was pinned for
551
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:17.680
a couple months on mine Hunter for the big serial
552
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:21.799
killer man I can't remember his name, Kemper, and Kemper
553
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:28.519
and Cameron went on to like absolutely destroy that role.
554
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.960
I remember turning it on. I don't usually watch things
555
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.200
I didn't get, you know, for my sanity and well being,
556
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.640
but I had to see who they put in that body,
557
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:42.160
and he was, you know. I remember just thinking like, Oh,
558
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:45.160
they found the guy who's the best on earth to
559
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:45.920
play this part.
560
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:50.440
They found him there he is Yeah, yeah, yeah.
561
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:53.759
But was that Did you have a did you have
562
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:56.440
a semblance of how solid that script was? What did
563
00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:58.880
you do on it? How many takes did you do.
564
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.000
I guess Fincher wasn't directing, so you didn't have to
565
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:02.680
worry about.
566
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:06.559
The No, No, we still we shot it was six
567
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.800
pages and we shot it. No, it was three and
568
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:12.239
a half pages, and we shot it for six hours.
569
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:18.719
Oh and we did every every take, was the entire
570
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:22.800
scene over and over again, from one to I think
571
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:30.360
there were four cameras. Yeah, not mistaken, and we just
572
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.320
did the same. The only direction I got was at
573
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:36.320
one point they were doing a close up of one
574
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.840
of the actors and I was doing a little more
575
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:42.199
directly to him than I had done and all the
576
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:43.519
other takes.
577
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.719
And they caught it. The script supervisor was like, wow,
578
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:50.119
that sounds so challenging and so fun.
579
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it was. It was cool. I
580
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.599
actually I was. That was one of the only other
581
00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:59.280
times I was invited to a table read. They flew
582
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.800
me there for a costume fitting and also just to
583
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.760
read through the scene. And actually, funnily enough, Holt mcalleny
584
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:10.079
I knew Holt when he when I first moved to
585
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:15.599
the city. I knew Holt Mcallenie. Uh. He dated my
586
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.639
roommate very very briefly, and so it was really really
587
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.880
fun reunion to see him, and then there was there
588
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:27.639
was actually a change to the scene between when we
589
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.639
did the table read and then filmed it. It was
590
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:36.519
a little bit I think maybe my so I played
591
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:41.199
the character of the wife of a suspect, and I
592
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:45.360
think at one point the suspect was guilty and then wasn't,
593
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:48.239
and so there was some there was some change in there.
594
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.199
So it was slightly different than the one that I
595
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:54.639
originally got cast in, but it was still the same,
596
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.639
still the same scene. So I my scene is in
597
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:02.119
an interrogation room being questioned about my husband's guilt.
598
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.320
Oh my goodness, I just want to there's a through
599
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:10.599
line between quality, compelling shows and it's table reads and
600
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.159
rehearsals are good and you should pay for them.
601
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:17.360
Seriously, really, it's true, It's really worth it. Because I
602
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.519
showed up in both cases, I felt like I already
603
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:24.320
had gone through the kind of nerves of am I said, accepted,
604
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.159
Am I welcome And that was already so by the
605
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:30.119
time I was on set, that was a big worry
606
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.000
that was removed for me.
607
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:36.039
I love it. I hope you know you are accepted
608
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:42.840
and welcome here, Amelia, and if hopefully we can repeat
609
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.440
this again next year or a year and a half,
610
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.440
whatever they do. Who knows the.
611
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.400
Yeah, Yeah, I'm so appreciative of you all, and I'm
612
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:56.199
excited to listen to your other episodes. And Chris, it's
613
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:58.800
so great to see you again. Thank you for thinking
614
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:03.320
of me. Our time on Midsummer was so was such
615
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:04.239
a delight for me.
616
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.599
It was. Yeah, I think about that cast all the time,
617
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.760
and I did scream when I first saw your face.
618
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:16.119
It made me so happy. You know, I hadn't gone
619
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:19.239
to the IMDb or anything. It was just a pure surprise.
620
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.760
And I sometimes get texts from people. I got one
621
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.960
while we were recording this as somebody who saw something
622
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.880
and I popped up and it brings them joy. It
623
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.000
brings me joy to do it. And just you know,
624
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:35.280
knowing you got a great gig on a big show
625
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:38.239
just makes me so thrilled that you know you're being
626
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.599
recognized for that you are. And I did see that
627
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:45.280
some of your classes are remote, so you might see
628
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:48.119
me popping up your class.
629
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:51.440
I don't have currently, not okay.
630
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:53.239
So I might have seen an old one. Well, I
631
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:55.760
hope you do them, because I know what kind of
632
00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:00.280
artists you are and you know people can learn a
633
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.159
lot from you. Is there anything you want to plug
634
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:03.719
on your personal end like that?
635
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.559
Oh my gosh, we thank you for actually that. That's
636
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:08.800
a great nudge because we've had a few other people
637
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:11.559
ask if we do any remote and we've been talking
638
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:14.320
about maybe just doing something on our own, not through
639
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:18.920
a school, but yeah, absolutely, Tony and I both teach.
640
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.639
We teach it on camera, our monikers being on camera,
641
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:25.760
and we teach both being on camera one and being
642
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.760
on camera two at HB Studio in New York City.
643
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:33.880
That's Hbstudio dot org. We're going to be teaching those
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00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:38.320
in January, and then we have an ongoing audition on
645
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:42.920
camera audition workshop at the Freeman Studio It's I think
646
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:47.320
it's the Freeman Studio dot com, and those start back
647
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:51.079
up again in January. We teach a Monday morning class
648
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:54.559
and a Thursday night class. All of those classes are
649
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:55.679
in person.
650
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.840
Which is miss yah with other acts so much.
651
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:03.519
A lot of people will come in and say that
652
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:05.599
was It's the first time they are actually reading with
653
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.239
a live human being, which is makes a big difference.
654
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:13.639
Have you found it challenging since the pandemic, you know,
655
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.079
to do the self tapes.
656
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:18.880
I'm I'm very lucky. I have a built in partner.
657
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You know, we read, we read for each other, and
658
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:25.119
he's also as you can see, he's got all the
659
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:28.639
equipment because he's a filmmaker, so you know, we've played
660
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:31.920
around with angles and lights and you know. So I
661
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:34.760
am one of the very lucky few who I don't
662
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.320
have to every time, every time I need someone to
663
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.679
read with, I have I have that person. So I
664
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:42.760
know that's a big challenge.
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Yeah, a lot of folks.
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So they're they're they're partner is not an actor, and
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and that can be challenging in itself.
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But yeah, yeah, Well i feel like I've learned so
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much just here and the two of you chat through
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you know, the experience in the process of all of this.
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And I'm really really thankful for your time here as
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we record on a weekend as well. Amelia really appreciate it. Unfortunately,
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pieces of metal are moving capassively around my studio.
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I'm sorry. I need to practice learning because sometimes it
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happens without me really even knowing. So I'm glad to
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know that it can cover this distance, I mean, all
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the way out there.
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Wow, your wizardry has reach.
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Good to know, Amelia, thank you.
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Well, hey, hang on before we before we wrap.
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We always end every show with a segment that's very,
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very simple. It's called what We're watching, and it's an
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opportunity to kind of ping off of one another a
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show that maybe one is watching that the other is not,
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and usually sets the stage for future episodes of our program.
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So I'm just curious, what have you been watching?
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Wow? I we probably watch a movie and night. But
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I'm trying to think of I wish i'd known, because
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I should have should have guessed you'd ask me this
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question because we've we've seen some really good stuff and
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a lot of a lot of really bad stuff. I
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uh shoot, now I'm not thinking of something really really
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smart on the spot, I'm on the spot.
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Yeah, I should have thought about that. This is one
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of our like it's so time honored. I don't even
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think about asking it because we just do it like
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every time. I should have thought about that. My apologies.
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Well, I mean the thing that comes to mind show
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wise is is adolescents. If you haven't seen it, uh
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you know, to know, I mean there's a whole converse
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station we could have about that. The fact that it's
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all in one take and how they did that, and
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it's it's pretty extraordinary. We watch a lot of to
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B to B TV to movies and create. The Criterion
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Channel is a big favorite here. We've been watching a
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lot of Johnny Toe, Who's Hong Kong director Johnny Toe
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t Oh, and The Vast of Night is one of
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my all time favorite films.
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Okay, recently, I would as far as the TV goes,
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we're really high on Pluribus, as kind of everybody is.
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But yeah, we don't have Apple TV.
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Got It, got It? Got It?
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Yeah, I saw the pilot of that. I would definitely
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be watching that if we had Apple TV.
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Well, if you need a password or something, Amelia, you know,
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we can.
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Hang on hold. And I didn't say that.
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No, I'm hearing there there's some support of ice in
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that in Apple right now, So I'm not so sure.
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I want to know.
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Yeah, goodness, yeah, every tech giant is corrupt, but I
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think that's true.
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We'd have to shut everything down.
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Really yeah, yeah, pretty much.
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We live in an era of you're either corrupt or corrupted,
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corruption adjacent, you know.
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So it's really surreal watching Walton Goggins on Fallout playing
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a character that led to the apocalypse, and like looking
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at his face on old billboards and feeling the shame
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of that, and then cutting to a Walmart commercial with
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Walton Goggins.
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That's startling, It's weird. What are you watching, Craig.
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I am currently in the midst of a binge of
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Ken Burns The American Revolution, and it's so good that
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I've just like, literally, I've got the browser cab over here,
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and like when no, just like, you know, after this,
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when I hang up, Yeah, after this, when I go
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make you know, a bacon, egg and cheese and sit
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down for a brunch, I'll probably just you know, throw
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that on and find out how General Washington mismanaged the
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British attack on New York, which is where I was
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at last night before I went to bed.
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So I've been absolutely.
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Honestly, I've been trying to finish it before our Top
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ten episode that we record in a week or so,
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because I feel like it's probably one of the ten
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best things that's been made for television this year.
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It's just it's difficult to.
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Compare, you know, how do you rank The Chair Company,
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for example, next to The American Revolution?
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You know what I mean, it's like completely different projects.
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A funny conversation itself.
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Right, So like it's that's the that's the quandary that
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we do tie ourselves into a meal for the year
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end rankings. Is like, okay, Adolescence, which was my first
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half of the year number one show of twenty twenty five.
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We did a mid year top five and Adolescence was
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number one right there. But you know, now I'm thinking
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about so many other shows that were so good. I mean,
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Chris and I loved The Lowdown. If you never got
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to watch The Lowdown FX on Hulu, Sterlin Harjoe's project, well,
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I heard that they've got some question.
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We switched to Ulu for Criterion, so you know, but
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I know I would like there's some stuff on all
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of those that I'd like to see. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I can't have everything.
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Well, you know, you're actually living out the premise of
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crossing Streams, which is that there's no one person who
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can watch it all. So I always try and find
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those who share various interests, and Chris keeps up the
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best he can, and that's how that's how everything rolls.
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But Amelia, thank you so much for your time. We
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really appreciate it, especially on the weekend. I really appreciate
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the insight into the process of the Chair company, and
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we absolutely look forward to chatting to you down the road.
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Thank you. I'm definitely getting some messages from the cats
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that they need to their breakfast or.
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Lunch lunch fair enough.
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00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:25.639
Well, you're three hours earlier.
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There, right, Yeah, we are mid morning right now, so
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no worries. Got the whole day ahead of us. Well,
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we've also got two more episodes of Crossing Streams before
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the end of the year. Chris and I will be
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back at the end of next week with our look
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at all of Purpose. We will look at episodes seven, eight,
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and nine and give you our series finale review, and
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then in the last week of the year, it will
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be the top ten TV shows of twenty twenty five.
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Chris's list, My list, honorable mentions, honorable honorable mentions. You know,
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how long can I drag my list out? Can I
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get it to twenty? Can I get the twenty five?
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We'll figure it out. And that is all still to
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come on the feed.
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So if you're.
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Enjoying what you heard, please leave us that five star review.
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Five star rating kind review. It always helps small content
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creators such as ourselves and for Amelia Campbell and Chris
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Read I'm Craig Elston. Hoping that you enjoy everything you
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watched this week and thanks for joining us on crossing streams.
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Ah ah ah ah
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Night, Love to Lose and Big Bears, Not the Night
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Father doing baby, just to be go Go to you
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right alonder, coming to me