Community Connection - August 6, 2026 - Tina Cosby with Rita Green Reginald Strong Katrina Owens

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe around four thirty ish, between four thirty and five maybe, really, yeah, I.
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Speaker 2: Was, I was.
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Speaker 1: I was outside and I was wondering what all this all the the yeah you were here, I wonder what all the thing was because my son was bringing my car back. You know, I remember I told.
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Speaker 3: You he have Yes, he had your car. Yes, I remember that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to the gas station this morning. But anyway, he didn't it.
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Speaker 3: Okay, never mind, I'm not gonna I want.
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Speaker 1: To ask some of it was okay, I'll give you, I'll meet you half with Eric some of it. But it's like, okay, okay, it's fine. It's yeah, they're up and running now all as well. Uh, but he was picking me up. I was just standing waiting on my.
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Speaker 3: Car, and that's when he pulled up.
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Speaker 1: Why Chevy suburban.
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Speaker 3: I've seen those before, real long one. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You know a lot of times you see as.
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Speaker 3: This black Yeah, the suburban or Yukon one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, something like the Denial of whatever.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the big ones, one of the big ones.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, just not got rid. Got finished with the live press conference and came on over.
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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, what's going on.
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Speaker 1: Here?
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Speaker 3: I guess maybe I'll ask ask around, see if I can find out something.
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Speaker 1: He was here and he went on.
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Speaker 3: The show and say maybe maybe he say, hey, guys, what does it take to get the gov? Yeah, to come down here and just see what they say. I'll ask him them. I'll catch him and say, hey, yeah, you can come down here and talk to us too. No big deal.
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Speaker 1: The big deal he could.
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Speaker 3: Like he had nothing to be afraid of. Now he's scared.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just uh but huh, but I let's let's give credit where credit is due because gas. Everybody buys gas gas, not democratic or republic And so for Hoosiers, he did something that I would like to see more of, you know, for everybody, everybody, not just who's favorable to you. Just like hawk Set is thinking in his in his explanation of everybody. He's not just thinking of Democrats or Republicans when he is saying, no more taxes. We we've got enough on it as it is now. I don't know what he's going to do to replace it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if he could reveal what that is.
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Speaker 1: But he's thinking of everybody, what.
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Speaker 3: His plans are, what he's going to do.
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Speaker 1: He is, he's thinking about you know this is an economic hardship on everybody, Democrats and Republicans. And I would assume, I would hope that that's bronze uh motivation for finding somehow a.
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Speaker 3: Loophole hopefully, so you know, yeah, I hope.
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Speaker 1: So for for everybody as full as far as it wasn't a good move for him politically, uh, and to keep to keep on the good side of voters heading into the midterms. There's probably an argument to be made for that. That probably is because Republicans are struggling nationally. They're they're struggling.
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Speaker 3: Well, why might that be?
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Speaker 1: I don't know what to a certain.
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Speaker 3: Certain somebody leading Yeah in DC could be it.
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Speaker 1: So you know, whatever they can do that doesn't directly cross him or cross his path, that can make everybody look good in the party. You know, why not take advantage of all those opportunities.
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Speaker 3: So well, yeah, maybe food will be next. Food has lower prices. I don't know, property tax, we could eliminate that completely on homeowners. Am I dreaming? Probably?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, wake me up dreaming too, But yeah, But anyway, here's the thing. We do know that it is possible for him to come on a moment's notice and and and sit behind the mic of a radio station in our building.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am going to ask let's see what I can find see what.
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Speaker 1: You can find out. Okay, Uh, we have a a lot coming up. Like I said, Danny's going to explain that Indy cars in DC. I can't imagine that either, can I I can't either.
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Speaker 3: But they are there, They're going to be.
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Speaker 1: There, They're going to be there. It's gonna happen.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's going to be. It's gonna happen. Now. I know they won't be able to go as fast because they're on streets, so it'll be a slower race, kind of like in Detroit. I think, Yeah, well could be in some areas. Of course, in Detroit when they have the right after they leave Indy for the Indy Car, they're in Detroit racing through the streets there, So it's probably going to be similar to that.
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Speaker 5: I think.
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Speaker 3: Okay, that's my guess. Now Danny will know more.
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Speaker 1: Well, Danny knows, he.
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Speaker 3: Knows, he's got the answer on that.
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Speaker 1: He knows, And like I said, good news coming out of the cults.
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Speaker 3: I like.
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Speaker 1: I like what he's about to share with some And then ms Rita, Misrita Green and friends are up next to tell us about Gospel Day at the Indiana State Fair. This one's gonna be a biggie milestone. We'll be right back. We're gonna take a quick break, and we also we are also going to be giving away those tickets to Daniel in the lions Den and the Indiana State Fairs. So stay tuned for your chance to win that good show, big show coming up.
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Speaker 4: We'll be right back, and.
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Speaker 1: We are back, and as promised, we have with us the iss Rita Green. She's our very own and she brings friends with her. And we're going to be talking about a milestone celebration at the Indiana State Fair. As I was saying, Eric, we always in the fair with a spirited, much spirited send off.
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Speaker 3: That is so true. It is always spirit.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so this year, as Rita is going to explain, it's special because we say a milestone anniversary. First of all, welcome, welcome back, MSS Reader.
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Speaker 6: Thank you, Miss Tina.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Eric, hey, you.
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Speaker 6: Can hear me not working.
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Speaker 3: That's not good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's try. You want to try the other.
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Speaker 3: The other jack, the other jack. There, there's a small one there.
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Speaker 4: There's a small.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you're going to take that one.
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Speaker 3: Those are working.
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Speaker 1: Something's working, its work.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it sounds good.
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Speaker 1: There's Eric so hey, so readA welcome back, tell us what's going on?
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Speaker 6: Thank you.
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Speaker 7: So this is the thirtieth year, the thirtieth annual Indiana State Fair Gospel Concert. And we are so excited because I mean, thirty years, that's a lot of time experience. It's just something that we are super hype and excited to celebrate with everybody.
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Speaker 6: And because it's.
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Speaker 7: The thirtieth, we are doing a we're having a mass choir and we want to invite everybody out and that's why we're here. And I brought a couple of friends to help invite the community out to come and sing and be a part of this amazing choir.
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Speaker 4: Uh huh?
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Speaker 1: And who are your who are your guests?
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Speaker 6: Do you want to introduce yourself? Mister Strong?
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Speaker 8: Yes, I am Regie Strong.
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Speaker 3: Hi, were glad to be here.
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Speaker 1: I'm okay, go ahead, And and what your your role is?
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Speaker 9: I am the music director for this year is Fair as well as the choirst.
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Speaker 1: Okay, wonderful, wonderful Okay.
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Speaker 10: Hi, Hi, my name is Katrina Owens. And I am here on behalf of Christian Theological Seminary who presents Testify on the national program director.
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Speaker 1: Now, what is Testify?
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Speaker 10: Great question, it's at the purpose of Testify is to bring back testimony within churches nationwide.
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Speaker 1: We are launching right here in Indianapolis and.
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Speaker 10: It's a five year initiative part of Lilian Downman Storytelling grant that CTS received, and so we're truly truly excited to launch this new five year initiative across the country and we'll have church partners in each of our full cities. Again, Indianapolis is launching it this year. And Testify again is to revitalize testimony within churches. Uh, they have sometimes, you know, we have maybe moved away a little bit from testimony in the every day in the modernize you know, church format. So that is the really the purpose of Testify. But it's going to be amazing. Yeah, yeah, it's it's amazing and we can talk a little bit more about it later in your show. I don't know what.
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Speaker 1: Let's go because you know what, guess what it'll go. It'll go right, But what what happened and how did churches get away from the testifying or testimony, because I'm going to tell you I remember as a little child visiting and I grew up in the Metha church, so they didn't have it as much. But when we would visit the Baptist church down the street, the deacons and the church leadership would all be devotional before everything got started. I mean this would be before church got started, and they would every yeah, every service, they would stand up and do their their testimonies and and you know whatever else. And I don't see that even in you know, the Baptist churches, which were the tradition, was a whole lot stronger than So what what happened to it? How did churches get away from that?
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Speaker 10: I mean that's a great question. I know that at CTS they did a lot of research across the country with different churches in their formats. I just think, honestly, throughout time, you know, just trying to adapt to where we are today. And I feel like we kind of somewhat live in a drive through society.
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Speaker 6: Everybody wants to pull up order and get it down right.
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Speaker 10: And so what do you fit in in the now in terms of God's Gospel and trying to reach people in this fast forward life that we're living and sometimes that it maybe it got a little lost in the programming. But the great thing about and shout out to doctor Nick Peterson, who is one of the visionaries an author of Testify to bring it back. But we're gonna give church tools our church partners. It'll be a toolkit that they'll be able to obtain how to incorporate that. The medium is through artistic expression though.
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Speaker 1: So that's the thing.
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Speaker 10: It's just not standing up sharing your testimony. It's about how do you share your testimony through the arts? Right and again, how you can incorporate that through storytelling, music, the art and through I.
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Speaker 1: Did a platforms Wow. Wow, wow. I was just curious about that because I used to just think and it was always you know, I remember, you know, some of the elders saying, we got to get there before church starts because we got to do devotion. So before you.
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Speaker 4: Know, it was just me.
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Speaker 1: You know, you'd walk into it and you'd see and then after they finished and maybe ten till eleven or a quarter to eleven, and then eleven o'clock that's over, and then they But then there were other times did want to go too far? But I was just curious. I just had that all right then and there. So anyway back to the thirtieth anniversary of the Gospel Day, Yeah, and the invitation to the mask wire.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, we want everybody to come out. It's going to be such a joyous occasion. And the more voices we have, the more powerful we are. And we're going to be singing at the State Fair. So if you are interested in coming, rehearsal is at Resurrection Community Church, twenty five oh two East thirty.
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Speaker 6: Eighth Streets tomorrow, that.
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Speaker 7: Is tomorrow, literally tomorrow, from seven to nine pm.
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Speaker 1: How many people are you expecting and how many would you like to have for this mask?
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Speaker 6: I think we're shooting for one hundred voices.
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Speaker 1: One hundred Okay, can everybody sing? I mean, are you going to take some just drown out.
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Speaker 8: To make it to the second third road?
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Speaker 7: Yes, But if you can sing, I mean, even if you can't sing, we want you to come out. But if you can sing and you want to lead a song, it's open. We're looking for directors and dancer. So it's it's a community thing. It's a big situation.
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Speaker 1: So tomorrow is I guess the organization of it all pretty much.
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Speaker 6: Yes, it's the rehearsal of the organization.
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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, all of one night, all in one night. Yes, wow, have y'all done that before? All in one night?
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Speaker 7: I haven't because this is the first time we've had a mask choir.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know Reggie's been first.
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Speaker 6: Okay, first time.
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Speaker 1: So what are some of the challenges of that I can't imagine doing. I mean, the hundred people.
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Speaker 9: I will challenge, I think, Okay, fellowship, the energy, just being together and creating. Like we we don't have no like blue blue print of how it's going to go.
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Speaker 3: We're just going to flow with the moment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have do you have your your list of songs that you're gonna perform already together?
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Speaker 9: We do, but we're open. We're open to other songs. But we do have an ideas just some songs we wanted to do.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So tell us how it all, how it's all going to look. What's it going to look?
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Speaker 7: So everybody will show up at seven and if you are going to be a part, so there's it's a two day thing. So we're gonna sing at choir Fest and a part of the State Fair. So you'll get your ticket for admission to the State Fair. We'll open up with prayer and then we'll jump straight into the song and the songs that Reggie has chosen our familiar songs, so you shouldn't really have to work too hard to learn them, so we are so should be pretty easy.
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Speaker 1: Mm hm and so.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So then on the final day, on Gospel Day at the at the State how's that going to look?
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Speaker 6: Going to be massive?
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Speaker 7: So we Yeah, we'll have to arrange for a check in specifically for the choir, so it'll go.
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Speaker 6: It'll be like a seamless process.
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Speaker 7: So once everybody checks in, we'll just meet backstage and go over a few things and just be in our place and ready to go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I was saying it, and Eric and I were talking about it. Is that the Gospel day, the stage all day, it's always very spiritual. Share with our listeners what that feels like and why that is such, because yeah, it would be good to explain. It's hard to explain if you've never experienced.
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Speaker 9: Yes, true, Well, first of all, you have thousands of people coming in and out. You get the opportunity need to reach minister to different cultures, just not black culture, but you know the city of Indianapolis come out. And one thing about gospel music. We have an incredible sound that is heart catching. So you can be distancing you hear the be the rhythm of harmony, and it will attract you to them. So I'm excited to see how people respond to this moment.
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Speaker 3: And it's our thirty years so we're going hard. Yeah, go for it.
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Speaker 7: We've got a lot of surprises. We have some special guests. Yeah, it's gonna this.
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Speaker 6: This is a year for you to be apart.
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Speaker 7: If you've never been apart, or even if you have, this is definitely the year for you to be apart.
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Speaker 6: Especially with this choir. It's gonna be massive.
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Speaker 1: What can you share? I know you're gonna have some.
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Speaker 7: I can say that the choir is going to share the stage with Tasha Cobbs.
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Speaker 6: But that's all that I can say. That's it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, we have Let me turn around.
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Speaker 6: I can see.
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I'm my mind one lamar A. How are you darling?
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Speaker 11: Good afternoon, Hey family. Hey, you know I get excited when you start talking about gospel in Indianapolis, So you know, I had to get on the line just to encourage the people to come out. You know, we don't we have so few opportunities for us to come together something collective, as I like to call it, the Indianapolis Indie Gospel Family. And this celebrating thirty years. So many of us have been blessed to walk across that stage at the State Fair, especially when it wasn't so popular to have gospel events. So at something like the State Fair and the fact that it's gone on for thirty years, you have to celebrate that. And I'm looking forward to being able to hang out and be a part of what's going on musically, because I want to encourage all of those that that maybe have not sung in a mass choir in a while, you know, courage. Yeah, I'm going to encourage all of those people that have participated in the Christmas Math and UH just singers all over and and as you were thinking about the choir and all that kind of stuff, of course you get interested to the fair and you get opportunity to take some of the fair in. Of course, Tasha Cobbs UH is going to be incredible, and just all of the other Indie UH guests.
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Speaker 8: That are going to be across that stage.
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Speaker 11: It's going to be a great, great, great evening. And I believe that I'm going to be broadcasting live on that day too, So okay, come the booth and it's it's gonna be a great time.
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Speaker 1: You know, We've got so many people out there live. You're going to be out there live Sunday. That is fantastic. And uh yeah, where are you going to be again, Lamar.
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Speaker 11: Uh on Gospel Day? I'm going to be out there lives yeah.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, at the in the area of the stage.
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Speaker 11: Yes, in the area right actually right outside of the stage, right in front. Yeah, So if you're looking at the stage, I'll be I'll be like right on the other side of where that stage area is.
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Speaker 1: Well, Lamar, is there any guidance that you can offer in terms of putting together or managing mass choir? Since you have so much experience with that, any any guidance you can share with our panel here in terms of how to how to make it go?
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Speaker 5: Well?
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Speaker 11: I will say this, the most important thing is the experience and the fellowship.
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Speaker 2: And I like choirs.
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Speaker 11: You know, we always talk about we always talk about the sopranos altos, centers and sometimes based but harmony. The harmony really comes from unifying the voices you know, and if you come in and you're willing to sit down and learn those parts, and I'm I'm sure they're gonna be familiar songs. Just making sure that you don't lose the sight of Sometimes we get so technical until we take the joy of coming together out. But every mass choir that I've been a part of, it is all the fellowship is what makes it really special. Being able to sing with some people that you have not ever sung with before. You never know who's going to be there. I always like to encourage somebody. If you're a little I bring somebody with you. So you have in these one or two people that you know. But the maths choir experience, being able to teach those parts, get everybody in those sections and deliver the message and expect what God is going to do once we come together that I like to say reaches heaven and comes from earth that reaches heaven. So it's going to be an amazing experience.
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Speaker 1: So I understand you're also a part of Testified Live Indie. You're a part of this as well.
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Speaker 11: Absolutely, and that's gonna be. Yeah, we're getting ready for an event that's happening in October. We've been having several sessions come together to kind of talk about how to present those testimonies. And what's the coolest thing is, I think, you know, whereas we don't do testimonies in the traditional way that you were talking about earlier, the cool thing is how do we how do we still give those testimonies in other creative ways. It may not look like a deacon standing up at the beginning of service, but there's different ways that you can express your testimonies and and interject them on a regular basis in our worship services. And I think that's the beauty of what Testify is all about. So start getting excited about that. And I'm excited that they're coming alongside to be a part as a sponsor and participating with this event as well.
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Speaker 1: It sounds so exciting.
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Speaker 11: Go ahead, is I wish I could be even more excited, so you would know, but sit into those sessions and just thinking about our ancestors and what testimony we have meant to them, you know, being able to come and hear the experiences that they've gone through and how God brought them through. And then there's a scripture in the Bible they talked about being overcome by the testimony of name. And it's really an opportunity not only just to give the word, but to be able to tell people that I know for a fact what God can do. So it's an exciting time around here.
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see it all unfold as well.
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Speaker 10: I mean, yes, we're extremely excited. You say the thirtieth anniversary and again traditionally, yes, traditional testimony, but we also testify through songs, right, and that's what the Squier has continued to do and that has remained in the church and then the Monitoring Day programming, right, And so we're truly excited to be a part of this. That's why thanks to miss Green here and because we'll have an all city choir tour in our life, right. But then we we'll jump started here at the gospel, yes, and you know, with the testimony in that artistic way, but then we'll continue the span in the arts.
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Speaker 1: The testimony is something that a lot of people point to when they say, oh, the music in the churches ain't like it used to be because of you know, the gospel of Lamar's laughing, you know. Uh and and we've all heard it and and you know felt the struggle to push the pull. But I think people have come to miss some of the songs that you know in the church that that were strictly testimonies. And uh so yeah, that that's why I'm just fascinated because I've just heard this, this this constant push pus So maybe I don't know. Yeah, go ahead, Lamor.
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Oh no, no.
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Speaker 11: But as you were saying that, I was thinking, you know, we're living in the era now where music has shifted, and we are we are so we've gotten in a space where praise and worship, you know, has impacted the church in such a way that.
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Speaker 12: We've moved away from some of the other things that have impacted the church too. It's almost like we want to make sure that we don't get to one sided, because you know, as we sing praises to God and we we exalt his name, there's still a need for somebody to come by and say, yes, this is why I'm talking his name.
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Speaker 11: Let me tell you what you've done for me.
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Speaker 1: I just morning this morning to tell y'all that's that's the way that.
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Speaker 11: But yeah, yeah, I want to think that praise God.
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Speaker 9: Worship, especially our church New Church, everything gets vertical. We're talking to God and we're not talking to each other no more. And so we sing a lot of the worship songs that is expressing what God is, but we're not singing songs that talk about what I went through, what you whatever situation. So we're losing that fellowship in our music. And I love the choir. I've been a part of some great directors Steve Lawrence Potter's House, Ricky Dillard, and I appreciate people like them that never got.
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Speaker 3: Rid of the choir sound.
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Speaker 9: That we talk to each other because there's testimonies that I can tell my neighbor and they can be encouraged to keep going on and we can still vertical talk to God as well.
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Speaker 1: I love that that is.
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Speaker 6: Has a little bit more insight on some things.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I would also say that it holds on to our tradition. It ensures that we don't lose what brought us to where we are. You know though, it's almost like a reclaiming of something that is very much a part of our culture.
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Speaker 1: Would you call it a course, correction, lamar is sort or I like that word though, reclaiming I like that better.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's the way I like to think of it, because it's ours. Just not throw it away. Let's not say, you know, sometimes you get away from some core values. I mean, we've been doing that across the board. So it's not just a church thing, but that's the testimony. It's specifically related to the church, and it's kind of like, now, y'all, come on, let's get back to some of the stuff that you.
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Speaker 8: Know the world.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that was that helps us get to where we are now, and I love that idea.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, let's let's go. Leslie, you have a comment or you wanted to join the conversation. How are you.
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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm great, How are you?
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Speaker 1: I'm well?
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Speaker 8: Thank you good.
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Speaker 13: I just wanted to say to the Gospel Sunday, my line dance team will be line dancing there on the Gospel Sunday, and I am going to be doing some gospel line dancing, so I wouldn't invite the people out.
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Speaker 11: To see us.
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Speaker 5: Let's get it pop.
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Speaker 6: In line Dance family, Awesome, what's the name of your group?
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Speaker 13: Let's get it pop in Line dance family.
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Speaker 1: So than praise dancing. Yeah right, oh yeah, I've never heard of that.
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Speaker 6: That's yeah, okay, And what day will that be?
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Speaker 13: That will be the Sunday, August of twenty third, the last day.
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Speaker 6: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Uh, we learned something. Okay, well, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 5: From four to five.
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well we'll check it out. No, thank you.
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Speaker 13: Gospel line dancing.
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Speaker 1: And that's going to be on the stage.
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Speaker 11: Uh, one of the stages.
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Speaker 5: I'm not as sure.
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Speaker 13: This is my first time there line dancing at the fair and it will be on the stage and from four to five.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 6: Do you have a member named Curtis Johnson?
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Speaker 13: No, I don't, but if he's probably in one of the line dance teams. There's a lot over the city that we do a lot of gospel line dancing or just line dancing period.
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Speaker 10: We are just one for we are a.
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Speaker 13: Line dance family.
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Speaker 14: I call it Line Dances United.
00:28:37
Speaker 1: All right, all right, well, thank you, thank you.
00:28:42
Speaker 11: You know whaturage we want to encourage if you're over there from four to five. Once you're once y'all get done, come on over to the gospel stage so we can brave dance some more.
00:28:53
Speaker 6: That's right.
00:28:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, the different line dance and praise dance. I've never heard of the line dance.
00:28:59
Speaker 6: That's but that's going out on the gospel stage.
00:29:03
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's probably on another stage stage, right, yeah, absolutely?
00:29:07
Speaker 1: And that what time does it start?
00:29:08
Speaker 4: Reading?
00:29:09
Speaker 7: Three o'clock, three pm from three to nine, and then Choir Fest is the night before, and that starts.
00:29:15
Speaker 6: At six o'clock.
00:29:16
Speaker 7: Doors open at five point thirty and we are bringing Nate being CJ and the Voices New Zion Temple the thirtieth Annual Mass Choir. Tim White is gonna host it in Mount Pleasant. Choir will be there at Mount Pleasant.
00:29:29
Speaker 1: Now that's the night before, that's the night before, and that's tonight.
00:29:34
Speaker 6: I did said you can tell us that Sunday is a surprise. Sunday is a surprise.
00:29:40
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Gotcha? And so boy, that's interesting.
00:29:45
Speaker 11: Lamar on Saturday.
00:29:49
Speaker 7: That's at Mount Pleasant and it's fifty one eleven West sixty second Street, and it's free, it's free, it's free.
00:29:57
Speaker 4: We love.
00:30:03
Speaker 1: I love it, love it, love it. So okay. Final thoughts from our panel. Rita tremendous vision pulling this together. How long you had the vision for the mass quire for the thirtieth Universe.
00:30:14
Speaker 7: For about three years. Actually, oh you saw, Yeah, I know. We had to do something to commemorate the year. So yeah, I'm excited about that. But no final thoughts for me. Just thank everybody for being here. Reggie, thank you for everything that you do, not just for choir Fest and the State Fair, but all over the country.
00:30:34
Speaker 6: And yeah, you're appreciated.
00:30:36
Speaker 7: And he also does the sound for choir Fest, so I mean, yes, so if you.
00:30:43
Speaker 1: Need sound, yes, indeed, appreciate it.
00:30:48
Speaker 9: I just want to encourage everybody come out. There's people that may not have got the chance to minister at the fair, but this is your chance. That's how you come out on tomorrow. Some people didn't meet the deadline. Here's your time.
00:31:00
Speaker 3: Tomorrow.
00:31:01
Speaker 1: Tomorrow, Tomorrow, everybody tomorrow.
00:31:04
Speaker 15: There's no.
00:31:06
Speaker 1: You don't need anything, just show up.
00:31:08
Speaker 7: Just show up. We'll cover your costs to get into the fair, in your parking. We're going to cover your parking.
00:31:16
Speaker 1: A lot of times you get free admission, but you don't get part of the party.
00:31:19
Speaker 6: And assion absolutely.
00:31:28
Speaker 16: Saying saying yes and did good and and and yeah, well again, you know, test testimony is within singing, but you know, that was a great point, that it's vertical, but in that process of.
00:31:42
Speaker 10: Our vertical praise, let's not forget about the people in the moment. And so yeah, come on now to the thirtieth anniversary and hear the people sing and talk to the people next to you.
00:31:51
Speaker 1: Bring your family.
00:31:52
Speaker 10: Right, absolutely, yes, absolutely, and we hope to see you out there.
00:31:58
Speaker 7: Absolutely, And thank you Lamar so so so much.
00:32:02
Speaker 6: I appreciate you, Lamar. What I love about Lamar is that not only is he.
00:32:07
Speaker 7: In the public eye, travels across the country, but he's also a friend, yes, and a friend that sticks closer than a brother.
00:32:14
Speaker 6: And I just want to.
00:32:16
Speaker 7: Publicly appreciate you for everything that you are to me.
00:32:20
Speaker 4: Lord.
00:32:21
Speaker 6: Okay, let's move on.
00:32:24
Speaker 1: Thoughts. Director, Yes, Amen of that. Indeed, Lamar, thank you everyone, all the best and this is going to be the best year. Is going to be the best.
00:32:40
Speaker 5: Jed.
00:32:40
Speaker 1: Everybody show up tomorrow.
00:32:42
Speaker 6: Tomorrow seven o'clock, seven pm.
00:32:45
Speaker 1: Seven to nine seven and address at.
00:32:47
Speaker 7: Resurrection Community Church twenty five oh two East thirty eighth Street.
00:32:51
Speaker 1: Be there's thirty eight East thirty eight. We love it all right, Thank you, Miss Tina, thank you, thank you everyone. Thank you, Thank you. We're going to be bad with a whole lot more. We're gonna go into your roots after this.
00:34:00
Speaker 15: Hm hm m hmm, yeah, yeah, m hm m hmm yeah, m hm hm hm h.
00:34:22
Speaker 4: M hmm, yeah.
00:34:26
Speaker 15: Yeah, m hm.
00:34:32
Speaker 4: H m hmm.
00:34:36
Speaker 15: Yeah, m hm m h m hm m.
00:34:41
Speaker 4: M m hmmm.
00:34:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're back with community connection.
00:34:48
Speaker 4: Eric, very very very much so.
00:34:52
Speaker 3: And you and I have I have a tremendous affinity for choirs. I love choirs. Choirs are something that I you can a choir could sing to me all day. I just love choir.
00:35:01
Speaker 6: Did you ever sing in the choir?
00:35:02
Speaker 3: I did, Yeah, when I was in my teens. Growing up, I was in the choir. Even was choir director for a little bit. What yeah, shocking was at one point the.
00:35:12
Speaker 6: Little choir director choir director.
00:35:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, I sang in the choir and I haven't sang since.
00:35:17
Speaker 1: But I used to have to sing in the choir. You know, I was generation you better get up there, oh well yeah yeah, and so yeah, we were. We were in the choir for I guess all.
00:35:31
Speaker 3: Of my growing up okay, all that time.
00:35:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I never really developed much of a what you would call and I wasn't what they call it.
00:35:41
Speaker 3: I was an alto alto. Yeah, yeah, I was singing. I forget singing the shower now all the time. My wife's probably like ghetto just a hum okay, okay, But I love that. I love that looking forward to that.
00:35:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that should be really nice. That should be nice. So you know we're we're gonna switch gether. We talked earlier about your roots, and we weren't talking about our hair.
00:36:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you saw that, the first I thought, I don't have much of that.
00:36:09
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:36:09
Speaker 1: But it's been a minute, I mean absolutely a minute since we have had the Indiana African American Genealogy Group in with us to talk. And every time they come is so fascinating to just just sit down and go back, oh yeah, and to go back, you know, back and forth, come back and forth, back and forth. And so we have with us now two gentlemen from the IAA g G. And they are please introduce yourself.
00:36:43
Speaker 8: My name is Dwayne D. Perry and.
00:36:48
Speaker 17: My name is Charles Edward Vaughn.
00:36:51
Speaker 1: Okay, now, now, mister Vaughan, when we last met, you reminded me of something that uh, you know how genealogy works and how you know, a lot of different things work. And we figured out that we are, or you did. I didn't, because I don't.
00:37:09
Speaker 4: I don't have.
00:37:11
Speaker 17: You did that we are cousins, Well not really that your dad's cousin.
00:37:21
Speaker 18: You knows, your grandfather's name was Charles. So I teased you that we're probably cousins. Matter in fact, the last time we were here, there were two Charles's here.
00:37:32
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right right to Charles, I remember now, And we were in the old studio Amos is old. Yeah, now we got a brand new place, no what you think. Yeah, we're going to get some more stuff put in here.
00:37:45
Speaker 8: There's a lot more coming moving on up.
00:37:49
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:37:49
Speaker 1: Are we east? No, we're west. We're we're more western than we were more eastern in the building, the building as far as the building, yeah, west side growing up to the anyway. Anyway, So for those who aren't familiar, tell us a little bit more about that.
00:38:09
Speaker 8: The group AGG Okay, so i AGG is a group that i'd personally been a part of for about ten years. And I came into the group because I was looking to learn how to do research to find who my specifically who my Parry family was. I carried the last name Perry, but I didn't know any Peries I was related to, so.
00:38:34
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with any Perryes.
00:38:36
Speaker 8: No, my father had had a broken relationship with his father, and so growing up I never seen my grand I never saw my grandfather and knew nothing about his family. And so that's what started me in this, and I didn't know I was going to fall in love with it. And I've been doing it now for ten years and has gotten to the point where not only have I found a lot about my Parry family where they were enslaved in Mississippi and all that, but I've now been able to help other people do research too, and that's what we do.
00:39:17
Speaker 1: An iagg Yeah, yeah, And so do you have some new cousins and relatives as a result of your research, Yes.
00:39:27
Speaker 8: Especially with the Parry family, because that was that was the initial goal. And once I found my my father's sister had a half sister that I knew nothing about. Once I found her, I sat down with her, and that was through a DNA connection, and she started laying out all these photo albums, telling me about my grandfather and that she knew my father. Okay, she knew him. Yes, she knew my father. Wow, I don't you know even though you have a a fractured relationship with your father, I could not understand why would you just eliminate your sister too? And then I found out he had two other siblings, So my grandfather had had four children that I knew nothing about.
00:40:21
Speaker 1: You know a lot of these revelations, and I'm not trying to be funny, but sometimes these revelations are made at funerals, even weddings, you know, where families get together. I didn't know about you. You without you know, the paperwork, the paper trail or what have you. So you know, an organization like yours comes in handy in so many ways. And I guess the you know the question I didn't ask the last time that I because I've been watching this series. I've been binge watching this series called Long Lost Family, and I think they use Ancestry DNA. Is that the name of it? Well, you have you have like three or four different those companies twenty Ancestry.
00:41:03
Speaker 8: Ancestry is I think the largest, Yeah, and the one that I use more than any other.
00:41:07
Speaker 1: Oh it is in twenty three.
00:41:09
Speaker 5: Man.
00:41:09
Speaker 1: I was just wondering how that how those organizations impact fact or you know, what do they do as far as your research?
00:41:19
Speaker 17: Well, they're very impactful, right, because as Dwayne said, there's.
00:41:22
Speaker 18: Like three or four primary ones, and so Ancestry is probably the one that does the most marketing and because it costs more money than probably the other ones as well. Yeah, I'm probably one of their biggest critics, so okay, because of the money they charge. But to the point that Dwayne made is that they are very very helpful because if someone took a DNA test, right, and this is how a lot of Caucasians are able to find their ancestors because a lot of them have taken the test. For Dwayne and I like begging people to take the test because that helps you with your research as you find make those connections because you know, without getting into a DNA analysis class, you know, each person gets fitting from their mom and fifty percent from their dad, so and then you trace that back and that's the whole analysis that helps people like Duane and myself and all the members in IgG find those DNA cousins. Matter of fact, I was in Batesville, Mississippi, in April last year, and I was able to find four or five DNA cousins, and I told them that I had found this part of my research, our second great grandparents, the Kirkandalls in Batesville.
00:42:44
Speaker 17: At a cemetery.
00:42:45
Speaker 18: And then I was going down there to clean those two tombstones, and I told twelve of them, and all twelve of them showed up.
00:42:53
Speaker 3: Oh. It was like, oh my god.
00:42:55
Speaker 18: I read the talked them on the phone, you know, through my recent search, but I had never met them. So we took pictures and of course and we you know, we promised to all get together as part of a family reunion. And that's probably the next step in the process is now that we know each other, let's get to know each other are entire family, kids, grandkids and so forth.
00:43:16
Speaker 1: On the emotional side of things, how does how did that make?
00:43:19
Speaker 4: How does it?
00:43:19
Speaker 10: Oh?
00:43:19
Speaker 1: Okay, both of you all are little. When I asked that, emotionally, we're how how does this?
00:43:26
Speaker 8: Let me tell this one story?
00:43:27
Speaker 1: Okay, I wish you all could have seen their faces here.
00:43:30
Speaker 8: It was asked the right question because in this Perry family that's talking about so my my found out my grandfather was born in sugar Lock, Naxaby County, Mississippi, Okay, And I knew nothing about sugar Lock, and I happened to My aunt introduced me to another cousin that was born down there, and she was ninety nine when I met her. She died at one hundred and five. And so what's important to do is to is to talk to the elders in your family before they pass away. You know, sit down at their feet and ask as many questions as you can so you can get an idea of who the family is. Well, I found out that they were from Sugarlock. And then I had a good friend of mine, Sharon Leslie Morgan, who was She had moved from Chicago, New York. She moved down to Macon. She had found her family down there, and she encouraged me to come down there. So she was part of the Knoxby County Historical Society, which was mostly white. So she asked me, she said, come down and share this information that you've just found out about your Parry family. And so I did. And so this was mostly white group and this was Mississippi.
00:45:04
Speaker 4: Mmmm so.
00:45:07
Speaker 8: So i'm I'm, I'm. I purposely just told I talked about mac Perry, my great grandfather his wife. They were both born in paul Lette, Mississippi. I didn't know what paul Lett meant until later. So once I I shared all that information, afterwards, you had a number of people coming up, mostly white people that came up to me afterwards, and we're going to help me answer answer some of the questions I might have. Well, one person in particular, he came up to me. His name was Ernest Miner. I'll never forget this man. And he tells me, he said, I heard you mentioned paul Lette a number of times and I said yes, and he said, my family at one time owned that plantation. So he asked me, how long are you going to be here? And I said how long do.
00:46:12
Speaker 3: I need to be here?
00:46:14
Speaker 8: And so what he did that very next day was he took me to this one building that was still standing is called the Commissary Building. Yeah, and I had heard about the Commissary Building through interactions with my other family members, but he happened to take me right there in the parking lot because most of the other cabins were gone. And I had this long history about the Commissary Building. And during after slavery, you had sharecropping and how brutal this man was to my family members. So now I'm right there at the property and I'm looking around and emotional. So a lot of and again I'll say this and I'll let go on to the next one. Is a lot of my accomplishments in this I believe were divinely led. You know, I'm not just good. You know, it's like, you know, God wants to give you the desires of your heart. Well, I wanted to find this, and he put people in my life that helped me to go here here, and I had to be obedient and going. You know, I could have said, well, I don't want to go to Mississippi, but I went. And again it is very important.
00:47:38
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:47:38
Speaker 18: Well, and I think the point that you made about being emotional, and I don't want to give your audience or yourself the impression that you know.
00:47:47
Speaker 17: When you do your genealogy that it's it's all negative.
00:47:50
Speaker 18: Right, it's going to be You're going to tie on some heartstrings throughout the process. But at the end of that, how much positivity did you get out of meeting your family members and being able to tell their story and have the foundly unions and have the you know, getting together all of those positive vibes that came.
00:48:09
Speaker 8: Out of it.
00:48:10
Speaker 18: So it's kind of the highs and and lolls through the process, but there's oh, put where's in your mouth?
00:48:17
Speaker 17: There's many more highs than.
00:48:20
Speaker 8: It changed the direction in my retired life.
00:48:24
Speaker 1: So this all happened as you retired.
00:48:26
Speaker 8: Yes, I was still working when I started, but I retired in twenty twenty and Charles and he had won't you come and join? Iagg And I did, And then I found out what this organization was doing, and it was a well organized organization and they had Oh there's so much that they had where I was able to learn how to properly do ancestry search.
00:49:01
Speaker 1: There seems to be is that there are a lot of interest in this, in this type of research and the importance of it for us because we you know, our our genealogy and our our bloodlines and things are so fractured by that institution called slavery that so many of us simply do not know.
00:49:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it.
00:49:21
Speaker 17: Feels a lot of voids, a lot of gaps.
00:49:23
Speaker 8: Right.
00:49:23
Speaker 18: So the way that Dwayne and I met, right, I have been doing research on my family and I have a cousin who's like eight years older than me, and she was using like FamilySearch dot org, which is another organizations research. But she's she was impressing on me that they're free. Well, I was listening to that free paying yester. So she started breaking it down and she says, well, y'all's you're getting pretty good at this, uh, this analysis and research through genealogy.
00:49:58
Speaker 17: Do you think you can help me find my dad?
00:50:00
Speaker 15: Wow?
00:50:02
Speaker 17: I said, find you dad? Your dad, my uncle James.
00:50:05
Speaker 18: She said, well, uncle James ain't my daddy, ain't my biological founder.
00:50:10
Speaker 17: She said, my last name is Perry.
00:50:14
Speaker 4: What so, y'all?
00:50:16
Speaker 18: So I started doing some research and his name, his name, her apological colleg was Alfred Perry. Well, Alfred and Perry are pretty common names, right, And I hadn't been doing research but about six months, but I had found over two hundred of my ancestors, and so I started looking and and I saw these people that built trees that had Alfred Perry.
00:50:40
Speaker 17: And there's one guy. I sent him a message.
00:50:44
Speaker 18: And he came back and I said, well, what's your cell number? He said three one seven. I said three three one seven.
00:50:51
Speaker 17: I said, well, where do you live?
00:50:53
Speaker 18: He said, I live Indianapolis, and that's how we met.
00:50:57
Speaker 17: Wow, and we now know each other's family.
00:50:59
Speaker 18: You know, I know his wife and kid. He knows my wife and kids. So a lot of positivity has come out of this process.
00:51:06
Speaker 1: Speaking of your families, your wives, your children. How has being a part of this group impacted that in terms of what you can I don't know. I guess maybe impacted.
00:51:18
Speaker 4: I don't want to.
00:51:18
Speaker 1: I don't want to narrow the focus. How what's the impact?
00:51:21
Speaker 15: Then?
00:51:22
Speaker 8: Well, my wife, my wife's Lois, Lois Perry, and she says commonly, I lost my husband to genius. Okay, okay, but she also she admires what we do, you know, and just like and you're talking about emotion too, So just like the one that he was talking about with his cousin, bar Bobby Bobby, And so Bobby lives in Saint Louis. That's where all my Perry's, my parys came. So I went to Saint was and so Bobby was looking at Alfred Perry, who was in my tree. He was in my tree, and so I actually I went and met her. I just made a trip to her house because I knew how important it was to visit meople and I started talking to her, and I started asking her specific questions and come to find out her father Alfred Perry. The dates didn't correlate with mine. So at a certain point in my conversation with her, I knew that this was a different Alfred Perry. And so then you look at the emotions in her. She was a little discouraged because she was looking for a dad. So what I told her, I said, I said, I said, Barbara, even though this is he is, this Alphred Perry is not your dad, I will help you find it. Yeah, I had I had her. Wow, I had a I had a DNA kit with me and I gave the DNA kit tour. She submitted her DNA and within six months or so we found.
00:53:18
Speaker 17: Out who were found We found her family.
00:53:22
Speaker 8: Yeah, found her. She had half sisters.
00:53:26
Speaker 17: It is and it's it's continually changing and updating.
00:53:32
Speaker 18: You know everyone's talking about AI, right, Yeah, and now there's a process of using AI to help this's call full text full tech search.
00:53:42
Speaker 17: Yeah, that the g is talking about.
00:53:44
Speaker 18: I did a presentation last month of about one hundred that's genealogys, about a hundred PowerPoint slides because they're all like, well, man, I wouldn't learn more about it. I wouldn't show that to normal people, I mean people walking them down the street. But it's amazing, it's amazing the process and it's actually a game changer, particularly in finding African American ancestors.
00:54:06
Speaker 1: So so what is the what is the group? What do you do on the regular and do you have anything coming up? And how can people get in touch with you? Do you want to find out more?
00:54:17
Speaker 8: I aa gg dot org. We have a website, okay. We also have a Facebook page so you can just do a search. It's a Facebook group. So there's a lot of information on both of those. We have upcoming. We have a this is our Call It conference conference is coming up September, the eighteenth and nineteenth of September, and it's and it's going to host it during the National Underground Railroad Month. So there's going to be stories about our two of our members that are going to talk about some of their ancestors that were part of the Underground group.
00:55:04
Speaker 17: Yeah, fascinating.
00:55:06
Speaker 1: I wonder how many ancestral stories there are linking families to the Underground Railroad because it was vast and wide, and I mean it's just it's just mind boggling, and you know, a lot of people don't even know where to begin.
00:55:22
Speaker 17: Yeah, would you like to know more about it?
00:55:24
Speaker 1: More about what.
00:55:25
Speaker 18: About the question that you're asking, because you can join our conference as well.
00:55:31
Speaker 1: My aunt belong. No, my aunt was a member, I told you. Yeah, she has since passed away, but she was a member for several years, several years. And in fact, there's a little tug of war in the family because there's certain family members that want access to all of her research that she's done, and then there's other family members that are saying, you know what, you didn't do it. Why do we have to handle She did all the hard work, you know. But I mean it it's very mild. I mean, there's nothing really really stony is going on with that. But she did do an awful lot of research. And I was going to tell you, I have Perry's on three sides of my family. Yeah, my on my father's side that when you know, by marriage, on my mother's side in just a Perry, and then on another I'm trying to remember where they Anyway, there's three sets of Perry's that I'm related to But none of them are they They don't, they're not. None of them are related to each other.
00:56:31
Speaker 17: Yea, they are they with states? Are they from?
00:56:34
Speaker 1: Are they Indiana?
00:56:35
Speaker 17: All from Indiana?
00:56:37
Speaker 1: Well, let me see, maybe Kentucky, you know, maybe has had had had migrated here. But then my family migrated, you know, cosby from Kentucky. My mother's family, uh, everywhere because her her father and and and and all of the family, they were all pastors, preachers, so they moved. It's kind of like she's kind of like a military family. And I'm trying to remember where they where they were born, she told me. But yeah, so it's it's it's splintered. It's a little bit of here. It's a little bit of oral in fact, no, no, no, mostly oral, very little written down. Let me put it that way. There's a few things, you know, pictures, uh, newspaper clippings that somehow were preserved, but for the most part, it's all spoken word.
00:57:25
Speaker 8: What's important about that is that, See, so now when I hear I'm introduced to somebody, now I know who my family is. And so when they say that their name is Perry, so I know I know the right questions to ask and.
00:57:44
Speaker 1: So I you know, okay, So so your family is from Mississippi.
00:57:47
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, my Perry family is from Mississippi, and they migrated to East Saint Louis, Saint Louis, and then my father was born in Saint Louis. He moved to Fort.
00:57:58
Speaker 1: Wayne in integrate to know that, just just to kick it out, how about.
00:58:02
Speaker 17: You're from St.
00:58:04
Speaker 18: Louis, but my parents were from Memphis, Tennessee area, and my grandparents were from.
00:58:09
Speaker 1: Mississippi, Mississippi, Mississippi, Mississippi, So could tell us about the significance very, you know, because no matter who you talk to, somehow more often than not it gets back to Mississippi.
00:58:22
Speaker 8: Well, at one time, Mississippi had the fourth largest economy mm hmm, but it was it was based on it was based on slavery because they had they generally had more slaves than probably anybody else. And I'm not make sure that that's factual, but at one time they they had more slaves than anybody else. Yeah, and we we still know that Mississippi is still brutal because there were there were more blacks that outnumber the whites that lived there. So they don't they don't want to whose power. Yeah, But again, like my story previously, this white gentleman takes me and tries to help me, you know. And I found out later that he was doing cancer treatments. He didn't have to do that, so I had to appreciate him. That's why I say he's special to me. And I know now he's passed away, But this man was special to me even though he was white. His family owned the plantation, but that didn't mean that he did anything himself. See. So that's a part of what I've learned.
00:59:35
Speaker 17: Through well anything too.
00:59:36
Speaker 18: And relating back to Mississippi is that, you know, when I first started my genealogy ten years ago, I felt like that all my family is from Tennessee because my mom and dad from Missippi, from Memphis, Tennessee. And then I find that their parents from Mississippi. Well, now I've traced my family all the way back to Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, right, And you think about the slave sports those areas, yes, and you know, and part of our mission is to make it all the way back to UH to the enslaver.
01:00:14
Speaker 1: Before we before we have to electric, we have a caller that has a question because we always want to answer questions, brother man, brother man, go ahead, how are you right?
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Speaker 14: How ten a year and your guests. I've been trying to track my family treat for at least twenty years, and I did the DNA chest with ancestry DNA, and it took me all the way back to where my grandmother and great that came from. But I had some people that knew where they came from, and they came from North Carolina, so that's east of Tennessee. And person that own our people came from North Carolina to Tennessee, which was straight across and purchased two thousand and five hundred acres and gave it to the slaves and freedom. So I'm trying to get farther back as I can and see if any of our people came from Africa. Yes, but did you go that far?
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Speaker 8: Well, I'll say this, we we yes, Yeah, we do have a We have these these separate meetings that help us in We have state group meetings Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Mississippi, and I think there's another one I can't think of right off the top of my head. But these are our nights once a month where we specifically look at research on those states. But we also have a DNA discussion group that meets on Tuesday, first Tuesday or second Tuesday of the month, and that's where our most experienced person, Charles Barker, shares his vast knowledge about DNA research and he's really good at Okay, so uh And in your case, I would say, the more people there's there's other people that can help you. And that's what I realized. I couldn't. I can't do this alone. I had to submit my DNA and then you get these DNA matches, so you have to decide what am I going to do with all these DNA matches? Well, then I started to look at who were the closest DNA matches to me? And then this this thurstep is you need to contact these people, see and and once I started contact and I said.
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Speaker 1: I don't know where the roads are.
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Speaker 8: You have no idea where it's going.
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Speaker 4: To do well.
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Speaker 18: And I think to brother Man's question specifically, is that, well, how do you get passed to the next milestone?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 17: And we've got over one hundred and fifty members still growing.
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Speaker 1: I think when I when I say wide right, well, no, we're across the No, I mean but Indiana, just in the state of Indiana or no, no, no.
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Speaker 8: We have people. And so once once COVID hit, we started going to zoom. And once we went to zoom, now people from different states. So yeah, we have I think it.
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Speaker 18: Maybe COVID created another opportunity for us to expand our skill set because to brother Man's question is that you know you can you can do as much as you can do. But when you have a group like I AA G G, and you have a number of one hundred and fifty folks trying to find their folks and the trip. Like anything else in life, there's tips and tricks and finding how to crack that nut to discover more information about your family.
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Speaker 1: How do they find out more information about I A A G G. Because this is this is fascinating, and I want people to know how to get in touch with you. The music is playing, but go ahead, go ahead and get the.
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Speaker 8: So Yeah, like I said, is www dot I A A G G dot org is our website. Our website is full of of of information that can can help connect you also have, like I said, Facebook, So a lot of a lot of people, a lot of younger people on Facebook. You can go on Facebook groups and search for I A g G dot dot org and you'll you can find it there. I listen and then from there world, Yeah, we've we've been at. We we're at I was at We're at the idol Jorg Ring. Uh well, no Black Expo, but Jueenth.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: So we go out and we we we we pass out, you know, invitations like that. So we're we're you know, I'm I'm public relations now, so I'm trying to reach out to to more and more people to help them understand absolutely the beauty of this group, you know, and and I think that we're doing excellent job.
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Speaker 1: Mister Perry, mister Vaughan, Thank you both so so very much. Sounds like your lives are so much more complete even since the last time I spoke with you, mister Vaughan. And uh, mister Perry, maybe we'll find some relatives somewhere downected so I don't know, mister v we're we're cousins. The first name Charles I A a GG dot org is the website to find out more. Thank you both so very much. We appreciate it, and do come back, okay, Well, Danny Bridges, Indianapolis Recorder sports writer is next. Stay with us right after the break.
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Speaker 15: Yah h m h m hm.
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Speaker 4: And we're back.
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Speaker 1: We're back, We're back, We're back. Hey, thank you, thank you both so much. You know what, the conversation sometimes becomes so engaging that we we talk all the way through. Thank you, mister Perry, Thank you, mister Vaughan. Talk all the way through the break. And there they were, they're heading out.
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Speaker 4: We gotta have them.
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Speaker 1: It's always a fascinating conversation, always fascinating, and they do great work. Time Now for that music. Where's that hero music?
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Speaker 4: Hero music?
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Speaker 3: Yes, wait a minute, come on, come on, you got it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, it's it's coming. There he is, mister Danny. Mister Danny.
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Speaker 4: Is he there?
01:07:07
Speaker 1: He is there?
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Speaker 4: Uh huh, he's got.
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Speaker 3: Danny.
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Speaker 19: You with us, Yeah, I'm with you, Okay.
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Speaker 1: Danny's munching on a tender Line or smash Burg or one or the other. Right, I'm doing well, I'm doing.
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Speaker 4: How are you doing?
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Speaker 5: Hey?
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Speaker 19: I can't complain. I'm I'm I'm alive and uh I'm well. No, there's not much more I could ask for. Really, I'm not dirt for but I'm not as rich as Jonathan Taylor is.
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Speaker 1: Oh who is? He got paid and and I liked your your line that this aged well when you wrote just pay the man. Jonathan Taylor just paid them back. Yeah, yeah in the recorder. Yeah, of course.
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Speaker 5: I think the Colts, I mean, they don't care what I think, and that's okay. But I do believe that they waited. They could have got this done earlier. I mean, you know they I think they had a number in mind all along. I'm sure there were some discussions in the off season. I'm not privy to how much and when, but you know, they got it done. I guess that's all that matters now. But I think it might have been better psychologically to get it done before camp even started.
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Speaker 19: But they've got it done now.
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Speaker 5: He'll make thirty nine million guaranteed dollars in twenty seven and twenty eight, and that's good because he's earned it. I don't know how contract will get from thirty nine to forty seven. I'm sure there's some incentive things. Hey lead the league in rushing. Here's an extra one hundred and twenty five grand. Hey, we go soon. Pro Bowler of the MVP here's four hundred grand. You know, things like that can happen. I thought perhaps it might be a third year with a with a buyout for the Colts, you know, and by I guess to be determined. Would I would think at least five million in that sense. But it looks like it's two years. Thirty nine is guaranteed. Again, I don't know, and we'll find out. Don't come out how he gets from thirty nine to forty seven, but I think that. I mean, all you got to do is put that go on YouTube and look at that Atlanta game last year. The number of carries that man provided to that team, five straight in overtime to win it. Two hundred and forty four yards, three touchdowns. He was an animal. He is clearly, in my opinion, as good as any running back in the NFL. And he appears to be healthy now, and I do believe he's going to be a workhorse again. I'm not convinced the Colts passing attack will be uh high octane again, whether it be the quarterback's health, the number of receivers that are available due to health, what have you. So, I mean, there's a lot of question marks there. One thing's for sure. You can always drop back and hand the ball to him or give him a short screen pass. You threw a couple of blocks and he's going to get the yardage for you. So smart move by miss Rs Gordon Ballard, the whole bunch. They did it right, and I'm glad they got it done before the first game of the year.
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Speaker 1: They did. And Jonathan Taylor is going to be a cult for at least another two years, hasn't He always said he wanted to retire a cult. He's been with us since draft Day.
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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, he'll If he has a good year this year, he could become their multime leting rusher. He's about seventeen hundred plus yards behind Edrin James right now, so he can get that in a season if he has a typical season like you've had the last few years. On the other hand, he's going to get it eventually. So that's really kind of a mood point. But I just feel that he's still explosive. He can catch the football, he can chip block, you know, he can do his part there as when necessary.
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Speaker 15: Uh.
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Speaker 5: Just a phenomenal asset to have. And uh, you know, I've been critical of the team from time to time on personnel matters. This is one where they were very smart and I think it's money well invested.
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Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with you, and I don't know what could have been complicated about signing Jonathan Taylor. I just don't know what could have.
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Speaker 5: Been Well, it's about money. It's I mean, it's just about money. It's about the term of the deal. It's always the same, whether it be a running back, quarterback, defends it back, no matter who you are, but it generally has to work for both parties. I believe it will in this particular case. But he also deserves the security of the guarantee contract if he goes out this year and heaven forbid, has an injury that would be tough to recover from. And again I don't ever want that to happen to any player in the NFL, or for that matter, of professional sports. But if he was to have a misshap of that nature, he'd have some guaranteed money for his future. So he's earned that, he deserves that. He's of mind, and I think he's going to have a big year. And if he doesn't have a big year, the culture in trouble. I think, I mean I think we'll go as far as he can carry him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Indeed, And you know, this guaranteed money thing is a game changer, isn't it, Especially where it hasn't been before.
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Speaker 5: It is the collective bargain agreement between the owners and the players Association, the players specifically. I think that money increases as you know, as has increased as time goes on. In the draft, draft picks are slotted to get a certain amount of money. Look at Fernando mendozat fifty, I think you know he'll make I'm going to say about thirteen or fourteen million dollars this year, whether he takes a snap or not, from a standpoint of being slated as the number one quarterback, selected in the number one position. So there's that part of it. But you're right that money hasn't always been there, especially at the running back position. The Colts had kind of hedge their bets. They drafted a running back. They signed a young man out of Florida State who was went to their mini camp as well. So they've got some death, but they don't have experienced death, and they don't have anybody who can run the football like Jonathan Taylor. Cas and will continue to in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed love it, love it, love it. So what's this stuff? It just when I say what's this stuff? It reminds me of an old Saturday Night Live skit that they used to do with Gilda Radner and she would be sitting on the news desk and like, what's this stuff about busting school? You know, she'd always get the headline wrong. But you know when I heard IndyCar Washington d C Streets and I'm like, huh, did I get there right?
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Speaker 4: Is that right?
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Speaker 1: IndyCar DC?
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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, two weeks from this Sunday, they will invade the DC area. A temporary street course will be put together and we'll run I believe, two hundred and fifty miles, so two hundred and fifty laps. However that works out. I excuse me there. I should know that specifically, the freedom, it's the freedom to fifty. And I'm glad we're talking about this because there's a couple of things. I mean, obviously this time we live in a polarized society. Political opinions may vary. I've had some emails and I actually a couple of phone calls too, from people who are concerned about the political climate in our country, and nobody, whether it be IndyCar or NASCAR, should be going to Washington, d c et cetera, et cetera. I'm going to ask people to take a step back and call time out. This is not about the current administration. This is about the profile of the series, racing in the nation's capital and the two hundred and fiftieth first day. I mean, we'll take the clubs off here. Roger Penske has been, always has been, always will be a staunch supporter of the GOP. That's his choice. That's business, that's personal. But in this particular case, the drivers the series are doing everything they can to raise the profile of that series. Fox Sports deserves credit to they've stepped in. It's going to cost a lot of money to put this race on, it really is. And the two hundred and fiftieth celebration of the United States is what this is all about. As well as you know, the showcase event, the high profile hopefully good television ratings. Indy Car continues to try and develop policy as well as you know rules for that matter, about how they want to do business and having an opportunity at that stage in Washington, d C. Is a big deal. So hopefully this thing will come off without any hiccups. But you can watch it on TV. If you can't go, you can watch it on television on Fox Sports. And there's an interesting weekend planned. And I did talk to a Penske executive. He told me he thought that this is going to be a phenomenal event from A to Z. Maybe there's some surprises we're not aware of yet as far as the public, the media, what have you. But the racing I think will be as good as it can be. And I mean that tongue in cheek. It's hard to set up a street course. It's temporary. You hope that the street is relatively smooth. They weld the manhole covers down and you go at it. Everybody's got the same thing to compete with, compete against, for that matter, So I think it'll be interesting, to say the least. And again, this is about racing on the two hundred and fiftieth birthday of the United States in Washington, d C. Not a political statement.
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Speaker 1: Okay indeed indeed, and we got a couple of them tickets to give away, so Danny, give us a number between one and ten, actually between one and five.
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Speaker 5: We got to get this in the number three caller gets the tickets.
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Speaker 1: Number three caller gets the tickets. What do we want to do first, Eric, Let's do uh want to do the fair?
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Speaker 3: Let's do the fair?
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Speaker 1: Family four packed to the Indiana State Fair. Three one seven fight zero thirteen ten. In the meantime, if you're calling number three, you get the tickets. So come on, call call, It's gonna be quick.
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Speaker 4: Three ones.
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Speaker 1: You gotta be quick. You gotta be quick. Three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten. Courtesy of Danny Bridges. Caller number three, Danny, Mister Russell has a question for you. Go ahead, mister Russell.
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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, A couple of questions really statement first, first, uh, I wanted to point out that Anthony Richardson who is and that was coach quarterback although you as quiet as it's kept, and he carr YouTube he just became a member of Alpha Fraternity. So I just wanted to mention that. And uh, yes, okay, there you go along with coland CAPERNI.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, get all yeah. I don't want to run out of time, mister Russell, go KapS okay who was who.
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Speaker 2: Was the first black uh that was ever? Drafte just wanted to mention that. But but Danny, uh, what is this deal with trans women and trance men and Sophie cunning him? It's crazy?
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 2: How many? What's the percentage of these people? Are the number one? And and well they keep talking about it, and then they never mentioned Bruce Jenner, who is now Kaitlyn Jenner, who was the decapline Olympic champion.
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Speaker 1: That didn't he did not he she did not compete as such, the transition was after retirement. The transition was after retirement, so therefore the concern. And I'll let Danny go ahead, thank you, mister Russell. I'll let Danny go ahead and answer that. And again we've only got so much time left because we got to give way these tickets and give Danny a chance to answers.
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Speaker 5: Here's my perspective, Miss Cunningham, the gentleman who just called yourself myself, Any listener is entitled to their opinion as it pertains uh to this relative topic. Miss Cunningham with the fevers certainly is entitled to her opinion as well. I do believe that athletes in some cases, many cases, actually are better served probably to talk about basketball related matters. Now doesn't mean she's not entitled to talk about her opinion and voice or opinion. She certainly is, and I encourage her to do that. But I think from the standpoint of when or ask a question, whether it be an interview situation, or you know, after a practice or after a game, you know, when someone sticks a microphone in your face, you know you're kind of vulnerable. I mean, either you're going to answer a question or you're not. And that's an opportunity to make a statement, whether it be about yourself, your brand, your opinion about you know, this particular matter, what have you. I support the rights of every human being to make decisions that they feel are best for them. I'm going to leave that peace lane right there. I will say this that it is a topic that's not going to go away. I do believe that a lot of people have various opinions about it. I in no way, shape or form trying to censor that young lady, she miss Cunningham, about her particular opinion some of her views, and she's had a lot of statements this year not just this subject. Some of her views I support, some of them I have questions about. But the reality is, and the important part of it is that people are entitled to our opinion. We have to have civil debate, We have to have the ability to disagree with one another about having so much technic circumstance surrounding the situation culture wars.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to the State Fair tickets. Manny Wilson, our winner for the Indiana State Fair. Congratulations, Manny, Okay you're going Oh that's Manny.
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Speaker 4: Manny.
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Speaker 1: All right, well you can thank Danny for number three.
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Speaker 11: Okay, thank you, man Ike.
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Speaker 2: You man to your commentary, you know, welling.
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Speaker 11: Into perspective so I can.
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Speaker 1: Roll which man Manny can congratulations and I don't have to add who are gonna take with you to the fair? Many right now, but okay, I'll take.
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Speaker 5: Calls to come in.
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Speaker 1: So okay, all right, Manny, We'll see you there at the fair at some point in time, because we'll be out there every single day in one or form. We're gonna be out there the congratulations man, thank you for listening. Appreciate it. Danny. You know what we're gonna do. I'm going to make an executive decision here and we'll give away two sets of tickets tomorrow Daniel, And we're almost out of time. Yeah, back to you, Danny. Uh final thoughts real quick? Or did we miss anything?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 5: Remember there isn't any car race this weekend in Portland. It is a continuation of what I like to call Alex pullout parade. He's firmly in the first place position as far as the championship points are concerned. I think if he wins this race this weekend, the championship.
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Speaker 18: Battle is over.
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Speaker 5: Mathematically it won't be, but the gap between himself and the competitors behind him will be I think too much to make up. But on the other hand, I've seen other things happen, so maybe I'm pretymature with that. But that race is from Portland. You can watch it this Sunday on Fox Sports Live and it's well worth turning into. It's a challenging road course and the first turn of that track is always worth watching when they let them go green. So yeah, don't forget to tune in and take advantage of that.
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Speaker 1: All right, Thank you very much, Danny. We'll talk to you next time. I appreciate it, and that's all. Thank you, that's all the time.
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Speaker 4: We have for right now.
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Speaker 1: Remember we are going to be live at the Indiana State Fair tomorrow for the show tomorrow Live, and we will have not one, but two sets of tickets to give away to Daniel and the Lions. And we sent time just simply got away with it, got away from it, got a way with got away from us, Todavid.
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Speaker 6: That's okay.
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Speaker 1: It makes tomorrow even more special. So yes, indeed, so thank you, thank you, thank you. We'll talk to you live tomorrow from the Indiana State Fair. Until then, have a great day. We'll Leemo Junior on the radio.
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