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Psychotherapist and trauma expert Joelle Rabow Maletis joins me for this special 2-part episode of Live Well With Depression. Joelle shares both her in-depth professional knowledge and personal experience navigating depression, trauma, and how the two intersect.
On this powerful episode, we explore the different types of trauma and how they can manifest, tactile tools and techniques for guiding yourself through triggers in a safe and healthy way, and how trauma shows up in our bodies chemically.
We dive deep into the ways in which the fight, flight, freeze response contributes to a repeating cycle and how different therapeutic modalities are effective at different points of trauma recovery.
Joelle is a highly acclaimed speaker, psychotherapist, and trauma expert with a global following. She is the author of a TED-Ed video on PTSD that has garnered over 3.2 million views and has been featured as a guest on numerous podcasts. Her focus is on helping people overcome obstacles and lead fulfilling, balanced lives.
In addition, Joelle is a successful entrepreneur who coaches other business owners on how to follow their passions and create successful businesses. Joelle started JRM&A Inc. to help others discover their hopes, dreams, and abilities to thrive through adversity, trauma and mental challenges.
Her achievements include being a guest speaker on ABC's 60 Minutes: Beyond the Headlines and receiving the DOD's HIRE Vets Medallion Award. She is also about to launch a new series of therapy workbooks.
Find Joelle on Instagram at @official.joelle.trauma.therapy and at joellerabowmaletis.com. Purchase Joelle's new book, Give Yourself Self Love, on Amazon here.
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
[00:30] Guest Introduction & Welcome
[01:45] Joelle's Journey from Dancing to Therapy
[03:39] How Joelle was First Introduced to Depression
[06:56] What is Trauma and How Can it Manifest?
[14:29] The Intersection Between Trauma and Depression
[18:35] Amanda's First Experience Feeling Trauma in the Body
[19:35] The Biochemical and Physical Impact of Trauma
[23:33] The Body Responds to Triggers as if the Trauma is Happening in the Moment
[26:10] How Trauma Can Lead to Hopelessness and Depression
[28:20] The Fundamental Significance of Anniversary Dates
[30:45] The Importance of the Post-Traumatic Growth Modality
[34:50] Using Your Bounce-Back Rate to Measure Your Recovery Progress
[35:38] Do We Get 100% 'Better?'
[37:10] Staying Stuck with All or Nothing Thinking
[37:38] Is it a Low Period or a Depressive Episode?
[38:43] Tips for Taking Care of YOU
[43:00] Joelle's Keys to Living Well With Depression
[43:30] How Spirituality Fits into Depression Recovery
[47:20] Amanda's First Step into Depression Recovery
[48:45] Why You CANNOT Fail at Baby Steps Toward Recovery
[50:33] How to Get Your Free Gift from Joelle and Her Team
[50:54] What's Coming Up on Part 2
KEY QUOTES
"Over time, we get desensitized to [our triggers]. But our body is still responding as if it's happening right now." - Joelle Maletis
"One of the ways my psychiatrist measures my progress is my bounce-back rate. How fast are you bouncing back from triggers?" - Amanda Gist
"I'm not a believer in that we get 100% better. I think we get 90% better." - Joelle Maletis
"It becomes less about 'How do I prevent this?' And more about, 'How do I keep moving forward, how do I continue living my life?" - Amanda Gist
"Just try brushing your teeth. And here's the thing, you can't fail at it - because right now you're not doing it at all. If you do it once, you've won." Joelle Maletis
Learn more by connecting with Amanda through Instagram and at AmandaGist.com
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