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Welcome back, PO family. Today, we're
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talking about something everybody feels
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but don't always know how to say.
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Respect. Not the social media kind, but
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the kind we were raised on. Yes, sir.
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No, sir. Yes, ma'am. No, ma'am.
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Greetings when you walk into a room,
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respect for our elders, and then you
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know how we carry ourselves. Today, we
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got a special guest, but thanks for
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tuning in. We're chilling on the front
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porch with Rod. Here we go, folks. You
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ready?
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>> Hey, welcome back, Porch family. This
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episode right here is going to examine
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our respect across generations,
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including greetings, honoring elders,
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and valuing self. Rooted in community
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conversation. We explore how respect has
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shifted and how it can be rebuilt
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through understanding. And today, I got
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a special guest from back at the crib,
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man. Brick, bro, man. Virgil House, man.
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Go ahead and let the people know who you
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are, um, bro.
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>> What's good? What's good? My name is
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Virgil House from North Charleston,
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South Carolina.
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Indeed, man. We're going to jump right
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into it. Um, this this topic we talking
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about is whatever happened to respect.
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You got greetings, elders, and
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self-respect across generations. Like I
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said earlier, we want to tap into a lot
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of dimensions in this uh in this in this
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conversation we're about to have on
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sports. So, first thing, man, when when
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you hear the word respect, Virgil, what
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does it mean to you and and personally
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on a personal level and a cultural
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level?
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Well, personally, it was instilled in
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you when you were coming up and you were
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when you were brought into existence
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rather from your family, man, your
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father, your mother instilled that in
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you from day one. Culturally, it
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ventured out when we started getting
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into technology with the TV, television.
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I mean, you know, once we start broading
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out, it became a whole different element
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of looking at respect from the family
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perspective.
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>> Absolutely. You know, some and I feel
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like it kind of like established the the
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social media aspect. It established the
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definitions of respect without any
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judgment being put into it cuz we know
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we had to get filtered, you know, when
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we was
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>> growing up. There wasn't no like uh
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>> there wasn't no ifands and buts about
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it. like they were like non-negotiables.
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What What was some non-negotiables you
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remember with the elders?
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>> You didn't talk back. You didn't
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question what they were saying to you. I
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mean, you couldn't you couldn't talk
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back or you got your head peeled to the
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white, but you couldn't talk back. You
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you had to respect what they were coming
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from. I mean, you you you didn't second
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guess their opinion. You didn't cut your
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eyes. You just had to obey what they
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were saying and you had to, you know, do
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what they say. What's different now? You
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know, it's different these days because,
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you know, the generation that came
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behind us is more of a um younger kids
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raising younger kids.
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>> So, you know, their their influences
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what what's being brought on the YouTube
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or television or radio or music
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incorporate into how they was raising
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their kids.
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>> Exactly. It was um it was like a
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community thing. You know, we always
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talk about it takes a community to raise
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a child, but I don't think people really
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understand the deeper meaning of that
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because process,
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>> right? It's different now that the
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community has changed so much because
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you have younger generations in there.
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But when we was coming up, you know, you
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could almost remember everybody on the
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block on each block. You can remember
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everybody cuz you know, I used to take
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newspapers. I knew the majority of the
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whole neighborhood. But at the same time
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when once it got to be a younger
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generation coming in and then they took
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the the male out of the out of the
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>> there was no structure there to really
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you know enforce respect or
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understanding on how to treat others as
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you encounter them.
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>> Exactly. that man it was it was a very
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very different time and I you know I
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wish I wish we would get back to some of
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it um because it it did put us in
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position um I think better than a lot of
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people expected it to do. Yeah, because
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you could you you would have you
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wouldn't have a problem with your with a
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neighbor, you know, talking to your
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child, trying to discipline your child.
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If they would get out of line,
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>> they would be able to they would be able
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to say something to that child without
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having uh the parent of the child come
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to them and have an argument about
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talking to their child.
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>> You know, back then, everybody was
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respected. So, you you didn't have to
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worry about somebody really getting on
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your child, saying the wrong thing.
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Yeah.
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>> By the time you got really when they
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talk to you
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>> by the time you get back to the crib.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Get the crib,
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>> you got it's a double sword now. Now you
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got to deal with two things coming at
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you. You know what I'm saying? Now
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>> it's like if you talk to somebody's
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child now they going to go to the parent
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and why you don't talk to my child and
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you know you know you know come on man
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>> it's gotten out of hand. Not the same
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anymore. It's just it's every everybody
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individual these days.
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>> Yeah. You know, it's like you it's crazy
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cuz you um it a you got to at the end of
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the day as parents, you know, we trying
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to get our kids equipped and ready for
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the real world. Well,
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>> that's the real world. Um the only
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difference is you got somebody that
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caring about your misbehavior or
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misconduct,
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>> right?
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>> And they going to let your parent know
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like, "Hey, you know, uh Peanut over
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there acting crazy, man." And anybody
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you get back home,
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>> you know, you going to get a stern
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talking to or you know it might go get
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the switch,
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>> right?
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>> Either or. But you going you going to
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get dealt with.
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>> You going to get dealt with either way
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you going to get dealt with cuz they
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know they can trust
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>> the neighborhood people which going not
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going to fabricate something about your
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child.
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>> Yep. And you knew how to govern and then
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they make you like, okay, I know I know
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I'm around here next to um sister Mary
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house. can't act like a fool over here
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cuz she going to
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>> that that it kind of made you felt
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respect, you know, and sh at the same
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time cuz you could feel it,
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>> right? You're right. You had to when you
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walk out your door, you had to show
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respect to everybody in the
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neighborhood,
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>> elders,
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>> people older than you. When you walk up
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and down the street, you had to say good
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evening, good morning, good afternoon.
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You had to speak to these people because
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I was always taught that respect carries
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you farther than money. And so you would
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you would always you would always
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respect somebody. I mean elders, I don't
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care who they are.
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>> I mean in the neighborhood the
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neighborhood was a neighborhood and now
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the neighborhood is like um a part of
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our neighborhood here and it skips over
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and there's another neighborhood there
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and it's not a whole complete village
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like how they wanted to be.
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>> And it's funny you say that man that t
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man you you like you read my mind man.
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And it's like um cuz one of the things I
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want to talk to you about that was why
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do greetings matter so much especially
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in the black culture two-part question
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and then what does it say when someone
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enters a room and doesn't speak.
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Greeting was always taught you that's
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that's part of your respect. You know
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what I'm saying to to I don't know how
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you say okay it was part of when you
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walk out your door
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>> and you walking out the street somebody
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most time back then most people were
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sitting on their porch you know talking
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to another neighbor or being on their
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porch just enjoying the weather you
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would walk by you would say good evening
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good morning you know good afternoon you
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would speak and then nine times out of
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10 they know who you are they know where
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your family is they know who your family
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are
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>> and they would speak to you you You know
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what I'm saying? They will speak to you.
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You know, yeah, how you doing? How you
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doing? I don't care. You see them four
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times that day, you're going to speak to
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them. Now, if you walk into a room
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and you don't speak to somebody, that
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means you're being standoffish. That
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means you don't want to be dealt with.
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That means really you you you're not
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really a person because you're trying to
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be like to yourself.
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>> And then there's a problem. There's a
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problem with that. It's a big problem
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with that. I have that problem sometime
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on the job. when you go to the job and
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you at the job. Now, if you at the job
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and somebody comes up to the job,
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>> Yeah.
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>> in your section, when they don't speak,
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you kind of hesitant about saying
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anything to that person cuz that person
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might be going through something.
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>> That's a person might be that person
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might be have something on their mind.
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So, you be like, "Okay, give them a give
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them a minute. Let let them get the
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stuff together. Maybe they'll speak
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later on." But then
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>> they don't speak the whole time they
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come in. But then later on they want to
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ask you to do something or ask you to
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help them. And you be like, "Well, you
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walk by me, you didn't speak to me." Now
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it becomes the problem. Becomes a
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problem now because it's like
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it's hard for me. It's hard for me for
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you to walk past me and don't say good
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morning or what's up. So throw your head
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up a finger. Point at me. If you don't
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acknowledge me being in the room, that
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means I'm not a human. I'm just like
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piece of trash on the floor.
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It's I mean I work myself.
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>> Wow. Yeah. And I'm saying and then you
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then you turn around 30 minutes later
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now you hey could you help me and and
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you looking at the person like you just
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walked by me 30 minutes ago now you want
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to help me right but now you need my
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help now now you now you know I'm in the
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building now you need something from me
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when all you can just simply do how you
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doing man good morning what's going on
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with you. Hey what's up you know you
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don't have to talk about you watched the
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game last night have to be all of that.
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just it's simply hey what's up man how
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you doing good morning you know and it
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carry on and I feel that you know you
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acknowledge me I acknowledge you but
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even when you go to a job and you are
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new and they forget about when you talk
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about respect and manners you you get to
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the job you don't have people introduce
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theelves no more to you know
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>> you surely don't
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>> you feel reluctant to go over there and
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be like okay my name is you know because
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you be like okay if this person doesn't
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introduce to me that means I need to
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stay in my lane and until they come. You
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know what I'm saying? So you don't want
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to you don't want to step on nobody
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toes. You don't want to go too far out.
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So you steady yourself. Then when you
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steady yourself when he's he he's
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antisocial. I mean
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>> you about to get you get label. You get
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label. Oh, he's the angry black guy.
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Why?
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>> Cuz I ain't chopping up with you. You
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ain't chopping up with me. What? I got
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to talk to you about
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>> that's what I'm saying. You know, we was
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taught, you know, from from being in the
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streets and being in the neighborhood,
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you just don't go jumping anybody
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conversation or jumping anybody group.
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You know, you know what I'm saying? You
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have to welcome there. You have to know
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somebody introducing be.
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>> Right. Right. You just can't go over,
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hey, what's going on with y'all guys?
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What you doing? But you funny now like
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you know.
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>> Yeah. And I'm already joking. What's
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wrong with you guys?
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>> And that's it.
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>> I don't know about
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you. He's skeptical about that.
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>> Right. Right. You know, so you had to be
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mindful how you do things. So it's like
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>> it was natural too. You know what I'm
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saying? It was very natural.
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Things have changed so much now with the
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influence of music and the influence of
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TV. It's gotten out of hand to the point
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of, like I said, New York when it
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started out with hip-hop. If you look
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back in the 80s, all of the songs that
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came out had zero curse words in it.
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They had conscious rap, you had um
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religious rap, you had party rap,
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everything was just just basically
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family rap, family oriented. to get
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played on the radio and then all of
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>> Tul Cruz was the one that made it have
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explicit content on the front of the
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album.
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>> I mean it got to the point,
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>> right? But you you had the freedom of
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speech but at the same time you were
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respectful of what you were speaking
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about because it was brought you know it
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was thrown out there to the to the to
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the community and you didn't want to
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have a bad image about you being this or
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that. But then once the big corporate
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started seeing how much people were
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paying attention to the negative side
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>> of rap, that's when it just went to the
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point of I don't care what you say. As
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long as they paying for the money, you
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know, if they paying for it, you can say
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whatever you want to say, how you want
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to say it, and it's acceptable.
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>> That is true. That is true. And I mean
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it um I think like when people really
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look at it like when you have that uh
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that suble convers communication between
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two people especially in our community
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it just does something to you because
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like you said earlier you never know
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somebody going to and if you if you
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don't say nothing to them you know it
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might make them even feel even more
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closed in or even boxed in
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>> right because now you don't have a
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conver you have
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>> now you have a conversation like well
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damn you know we we really you know dog
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we didn't even know dog going through
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that or it could have been, you know,
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it's it's small things and they add up
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or on the other side of it is when
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you're dealing with an opposite race
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>> and typically the one that the
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colonizers that we know we have to deal
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with in some of the work environments.
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>> Um they do the same crap
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>> and they'll walk past you and don't say
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nothing. Um then you look at them speak
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amongst their own people like they walk
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past you and then as soon as they Becky
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over here, hey good morning. I'm like
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damn dog. I just seen you at the coffee
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machine. You ain't say nothing. Then
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after lunch, you like, "Oh, hey, I need
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you to do this." No, I
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ain't doing because I'm It's on my
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time now because
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>> you blatantly disrespect me coming
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across and then you get mad at me. But
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me and my people having a good time. Oh,
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they loud.
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>> But you Well, yeah, we're getting stuff
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done though.
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>> And now you coming in the room and you
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want to you want you want
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>> you want to be acknowledged. It's a big
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thing about acknowledgement.
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>> You know, if you're not acknowledged
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>> properly from the beginning,
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>> I'm going fast. No, we done with for the
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rest of the day. We might start this
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over again. All right, I'm done with you
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until you can come back and you we can
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make amends about what's going on. But
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until then, I know I'm going respect
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you,
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>> you know, to the point of I'm not going
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to try to dog harm you or be like, you
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know, have like
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a black dude or black, you know, we
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like, okay, you know me as being a human
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>> that exactly like you it it took me back
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to the day the old Jim Crow like this is
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a prime example of the new Jim Crow
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right here,
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>> right?
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doing a certain way now is like
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advanced,
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>> right? It just is like I said, it's just
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they try to cover it up, but then now
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with the president we have,
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>> it's like they got they got a big oh, we
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can do whatever the we want to do
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right now because he say what he wants
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to say. We can say what we want to say,
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you know, and it's we shouldn't have no
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repercussions about it. And he's the
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first president,
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>> which which made him a president because
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he has the attitude of most Americans
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that we are just greater than anybody
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else out there in the world.
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>> And he talks that way. Even though he
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does reckless things, he he gets the the
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majority of us to dog and back him
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because of his actions and how he act
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towards everybody else. Like, you know,
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like everybody else is beneath us.
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>> But we really are we in bad shape, man.
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Yeah, we it's manager John here is
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astronomical man. The stuff that he done
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how far he has taken the disrespect man
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because
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>> you know it's you know we used to say
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>> actions speak louder than words but it
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kind of like both doing the same thing
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with this with this cat. is like his
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actions and his word is speaking loudly
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at the same time because
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>> if he say something he got enough people
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in place to execute
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>> right cuz he's using the same tactics he
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used when he used to have the his
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reality show I forgot the name of the
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show he used to have back in the days
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but he's using those same tactic to know
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that when you do when you start to do
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like say and do evil things that brings
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a more mass audience which gives you
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more money in your pocket when you got
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negative things going on more people
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tune are tuned into that than than just
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a somber story or somebody got cancer or
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you know something sad
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>> that's pretty good at the same time but
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when you got a fight or argument or
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disagreement everybody want to chime in
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and see how it pans out and you get more
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viewer you know you get more viewers
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than you do then you get just try to be
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nice so you got to you got to create a
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gimmick and you know he didn't win the
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popular vote but he win he won the
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electoral vote but now the funny thing
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about the electoral vote the 95 5% of
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the people I know are not in the know in
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an electoral vote could you know in that
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state that can push that. So if it was a
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overall vote,
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>> it was an overall vote of popularity, he
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wouldn't be in there. But when you got
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certain states,
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>> you know, dealing with that, that's why
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I try to when I talking to people, I'm
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like, man, look, deal with your local
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government. Don't worry about the
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presidency because you don't have a
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shot, you know, with the presidency cuz
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we're not in electoral vote states. All
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we can do is deal with our congressman,
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the mayor, you know, chief of police,
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local government to help us deal with
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our local economy and our local state.
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Yeah, that's and that and that that's a
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that's a perfect segue, man, into what I
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was going to ask you next. Um, about how
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do you think the younger generation
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define respect today? Because with the
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politics um and and the uh what you call
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it, the rhetoric that's being used in
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social media of the the make America
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great again, the black culture, the
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Hispanic culture, all this ice stuff.
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Uh, how do you think the younger
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generation define respect today? the
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younger generation define respect with
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money and you have to put that also on
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you have to put that also on the drug
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trade. When the drug trade came in into
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the communities right now you had a
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young boy say 15 16 years old making
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more money than his father.
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>> Now his father is doing the best he can
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at that time to provide for the
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household.
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>> Once his son start making more money in
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two days than he makes in a week. Now
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the son,
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his respect for the father is not the
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same anymore because he has more money
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in his pocket. He think he's he's he's
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he's
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more mature now because he has he's
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making more money and it it knocked the
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it knocked the livelihood of the actual
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father kind of down because you know now
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one time you look at your father, hey
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man, he's taking care of the family,
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taking care of bills, everything is
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good. Then all of a sudden when you got
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that fast money coming in and that old
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young guy buying shoes and paying help
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pay the bills and giving mama money and
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giving sister money and he can't do all
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the father can't do all that because
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he's he he getting paid by the hour
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>> not getting paid by the dog on cop. So
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it's a difference. So once the younger
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generation once the younger generation
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start picking up on how to hustle and
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make money before they got locked up,
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they thought, you know, okay, I got this
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money, you know, I should be respected
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because I'm making this kind of money.
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Even though it was illegal money, even
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though you tearing up the community,
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they don't care about that. All they
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care about was how much money they can
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make within a matter of time and what
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they can do with it. And you even had
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some of the older folks turn on the
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father in the house because the younger
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guy was making so much money. He can
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give the hair, give the bed, get the
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this and that you can contribute. And
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the father was like, "Look, I make I'm
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making $12 an hour and I'm trying to
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after tax, I'm trying to bring this home
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every week, take care of these bills,
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put food on the table for my kids, get
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them to school, put clothes on their
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back. It's not that easy for me." But
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the but that drug trade, it just threw
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everything way off way off.
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>> And that's kind of a that that's that
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was a big shift. And um and it's kind of
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like, you know, I think the lack of yes
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sir and no sir, the disrespect with that
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with some people like oh you don't say
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no yes sir and no sir no more. I think
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it's that was a uh um a cultural shift
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as well.
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>> That was a cultural shift right there.
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It was that that was it. It it was a
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culture shift in yes sir and no sir
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because now you feeling like your father
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was supposed to take you yes sir no sir
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because of the amount of money you
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making and bringing into the house. If
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they let you stay in the house then all
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of a sudden you would get your own spot
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or find you somebody to stay with and
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then you you would as long as you
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flourish over there you know not doing
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the hourly wages thing. As long as you
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flourish over there and the neighborhood
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people yeah he got money look he got the
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shoes on. He wearing the Nikes. He's
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wearing the Jordans. He got the chain
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and everything.
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>> Like the all the hustling started
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dissipating.
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>> All the hustlers that that just that
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just took you to another level of saying
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I want to be like him. I don't want to
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be like my daddy. My daddy working. He
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can barely dog on you know. You be like
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you forget about how things was put
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together. You know, you you have that's
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why I'm saying you have to always
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respect your elders because they they
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laid the path for you to be what you be
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what you trying to be now.
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>> Yeah. some some young people say,
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"I respect myself first." How do you
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feel about that?
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>> Well, it it all depends on how they was
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raised, man. I mean, they like I said,
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it's the morals that they were put in
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were put into them. They're not really
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centered on like uh respect of others
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because they feel that they're taking
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care of themselves now. They feel cuz
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they they can hustle and do this or they
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can come up with a scam and get some
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money with some scam or something like
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that real quick. a fast dollar, you get
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more respect. Like I said, people with
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respect, A broke man can't tell a person
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with money nothing. A broke man can tell
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a dog or a drug dealer. A broke man can
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tell a drug dealer, "Hey man, you need
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to slow down and you need to I mean, you
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shouldn't be doing that." At the same
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time, that drug deal, that drug person
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looking at him like, "Look, man, you
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can't tell me Look at you. You
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can't you clothe.
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>> Hey, look, look at you. How can you tell
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me?" But what he's telling you is the
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moral of it is, "Hey, bro, you're not
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going on the right path." Now
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>> look at me. Look what happened to me.
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>> You try to
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>> Well, yeah, that's right. But you try to
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reverse that and say, "Okay, stop
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selling drugs and go get a job and then
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you start getting that that hourly
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hourly wage and you do like, man, man,
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when I was work I was out there in them
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streets, I was making dog on 500 every
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two hours. I can barely make $500 every
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two weeks until your mind goes back
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until you get caught up. You don't get
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you don't really feel the impact of how
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wrong you doing it until you get caught
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up. Once you get caught up, that's when
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you be like, "Man, I should have dog on,
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you know, I should have did this. I
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should have did that."
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>> But it's too late. It's it's too late.
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>> Yeah. It's it's it's a um it's a it's a
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lesson that's learned late. And then you
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don't the OG's that used to try to guide
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the catch, you know, slash of a dying
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breed. Um because
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>> the OG's I mean the OG's aren't the same
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anymore cuz back in my day
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>> like the it's like the OG's kind of like
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>> that change the ones we know died OG's
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or the OG's or the young G.
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>> Right. I know they did it did the old
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did they did they do new yins now
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because back in my day
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>> exactly you're right
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>> the end
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>> if I was out there right if I was out
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there and I say for instance I'm walking
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down the street and there's a barrel
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with some fire in it and the guy
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standing older guy standing around
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talking and they they look over and see
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hey what are you doing out here you're
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not supposed to be here and they know
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who my father is who my mother is you
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need to get your behind back on down the
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street you're not supposed to be around
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here now it's like if you come if you
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can come around some Yans. You got some
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weed and you got a cigar. Oh, you
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invited in. Don't give a damn. You BFF
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for life.
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>> You in
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you, you know the true OG would even let
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you enter the game.
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>> Wouldn't even enter the game, you know?
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>> Right. You you couldn't you couldn't do
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that.
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>> You couldn't do it. And it's funny cuz I
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think like um you know one of the one of
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the one of the things often come to mind
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when I talk to people about this is like
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did older generations confuse obedience
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with respect? And I'm like okay I can
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kind of see why like generations past us
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or younger than us kind of see like okay
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I'm not doing I'm not going to be I'm
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not going to speak good morning every
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time. I'm not going to always open the
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door for a lady or older woman or
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whatever. Uh or even say yes or no sir
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cuz they feel like
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>> they feel like uh they being oh you you
00:23:46.159 --> 00:23:47.590
trying to tell me what to do. You know
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you trying to
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>> right
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>> they may feel like you trying to whoop
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them in the shape like you trying to
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make a dog obedient on animals obedient
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>> but it's not that in the sense of that
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>> right but obedience was part of respect.
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If you if you obeyed and you listened to
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your older older older people, you was
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you was considered as a a good child.
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>> If you were doing what you supposed to
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do, you do your chores. You see, kids
00:24:13.919 --> 00:24:15.430
don't have chores no more. All they have
00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:17.110
to do now is go to the room,
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>> play on the phone. They don't have to
00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:20.390
worry about washing your dishes. They
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don't have to worry about doing no
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floors. They don't go cut some grass.
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>> I remember when we used to wash clothes,
00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:29.430
we used to wash clothes. You got to you
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wash them in the house. You got to hang
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them out on the line.
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>> You don't hang a no clothes out on the
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line. Everything is washing machine,
00:24:35.760 --> 00:24:38.549
dryer, microwave, everything, you know,
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:40.630
all all the technology
00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:43.510
>> have taken all of the dog on like the
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small things that you were supposed to
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learn cuz from when I was say for
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instance, when I was born from age 1 to
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12, I I was taught how to do everything
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in the house. Everything. I mean, uh,
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.190
cook, clean, everything. Now, when I
00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:03.269
turned 13, 12 to 13, I was outside. Now
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:04.950
I'm being taught how to deal with the
00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:07.510
yard, how to how to deal with the car,
00:25:07.520 --> 00:25:09.590
how to how to, you know what I'm saying?
00:25:09.600 --> 00:25:12.070
Deal with the dog, um, cut wood for the
00:25:12.080 --> 00:25:14.070
fireplace, different things you had to
00:25:14.080 --> 00:25:15.830
learn how to do at different ages. Now,
00:25:15.840 --> 00:25:17.990
that's non-existent cuz you got you got
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.750
central heat, central air. You ain't wor
00:25:19.760 --> 00:25:21.590
about no you have some people have
00:25:21.600 --> 00:25:23.430
fireplace, some people have a fireplace.
00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:24.789
So you can, you know, you go buy a
00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:26.710
little
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no kerosene heater either.
00:25:28.159 --> 00:25:31.430
>> No, I don't got no car shut off.
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:33.110
>> No,
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>> you kick if you run into a boy, you kick
00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:36.149
that jump while you smell like kerosene
00:25:36.159 --> 00:25:39.190
the whole day, boy.
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>> Or even just being here, your clothes
00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:42.390
smell like gas. Like damn.
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:43.909
>> Right. Right. You you would smell it.
00:25:43.919 --> 00:25:45.269
You would have it in your clothes, but
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:46.549
you was warm.
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:49.590
>> But yeah, you warm now. as things turn
00:25:49.600 --> 00:25:52.470
as progressed and technology got kicked
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:54.870
in, there's lesser things that kids can
00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:57.190
do now besides all they want to do now
00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:58.789
is be on the phone.
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>> Well, funny story is my I have a
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.350
fouryear-old granddaughter who had a
00:26:03.360 --> 00:26:05.110
birthday last month
00:26:05.120 --> 00:26:07.269
>> and she got a phone and I started
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:08.710
laughing. I'm like, "Man, you got a
00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:11.190
phone?" And she called me, "Papa, I give
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:13.510
you my number. You give me your number."
00:26:13.520 --> 00:26:13.830
Like,
00:26:13.840 --> 00:26:16.710
>> right? Four years old, man.
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:18.470
You didn't hear that to you like in high
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.310
school. Give me a number.
00:26:20.320 --> 00:26:22.630
>> But I I didn't have a phone when I was
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.990
in high school. I barely had a people.
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:27.510
What they call
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>> I was you.
00:26:30.159 --> 00:26:33.110
>> Yeah. You was a record man. You had even
00:26:33.120 --> 00:26:34.230
know the fellas on the street that
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:35.669
hustle have but you know you work at
00:26:35.679 --> 00:26:38.070
Burger King. They paid me on me on the
00:26:38.080 --> 00:26:38.630
hip.
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.430
>> Yeah. Right. You had to pay for them.
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:42.950
>> You had to go pay for them. You had me
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:45.350
so you had quarters on you and those
00:26:45.360 --> 00:26:46.149
times
00:26:46.159 --> 00:26:48.149
>> little things are different. Everything
00:26:48.159 --> 00:26:49.909
was in the power of your hand.
00:26:49.919 --> 00:26:51.269
>> Everything in the power of your hand.
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:51.830
And they
00:26:51.840 --> 00:26:53.190
>> But you know the funny part about that
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:54.630
though, even though it's so convenient
00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:56.390
though to him, bro,
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:58.390
>> it's like it's like Lupe Fiasco in them.
00:26:58.400 --> 00:26:59.990
It's like dumbing them down,
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:00.789
>> right?
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:02.230
>> It's limited research ability. I'm like,
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.390
it's right in the encyclopedia. What's
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:05.269
that?
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.029
>> You had we had an encyclopedia in the
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:08.950
house. You had A through Z. You won it
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:10.710
>> when you had to do a essay. When you had
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:12.230
to do an essay in school, you had to go
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:13.750
to the library.
00:27:13.760 --> 00:27:16.789
>> You had to do get your books, research.
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:18.630
You understand what I'm saying? But now
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.870
everything is on the phone. Hey Siri and
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.110
Siri will pop up. Yes. And you ask them
00:27:23.120 --> 00:27:24.470
a question and Siri will give you the
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:26.549
answer. You okay, that's the answer. So
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:27.830
you know everything is given to them
00:27:27.840 --> 00:27:29.510
now. We had to go out there and make it
00:27:29.520 --> 00:27:31.590
happen.
00:27:31.600 --> 00:27:33.909
>> You mean you have to know you go in
00:27:33.919 --> 00:27:35.990
there and get the index card out
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:37.110
library. You know what I'm saying? You
00:27:37.120 --> 00:27:38.789
go to the micro fees. We had we had late
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:40.549
fees on books being returned cuz you
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.510
didn't return on time.
00:27:43.520 --> 00:27:44.470
>> They going to tag you.
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.310
>> Those days those days are over with now,
00:27:46.320 --> 00:27:49.669
man. I'm surprised like newspapers and
00:27:49.679 --> 00:27:51.110
libraries. I'm surprised you're still
00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:53.110
holding on because this phone in our
00:27:53.120 --> 00:27:55.190
hand right now. Me being able to talk to
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:55.990
you
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.350
>> via Zoom
00:27:57.360 --> 00:27:59.350
>> is totally different. Back in the days,
00:27:59.360 --> 00:28:02.470
I had to dog on either find you or be be
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:05.430
beside you to be able to talk to you.
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:06.070
>> Yep.
00:28:06.080 --> 00:28:08.470
>> So things change. So you you can blame
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:10.470
you can blame respect on how the kids
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.310
feel things on a lot of things.
00:28:12.320 --> 00:28:13.350
>> It's just not
00:28:13.360 --> 00:28:15.269
>> it's just not cut and dry on just you
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.389
know how the family is and if they was
00:28:18.399 --> 00:28:20.710
raised by a single parent like a mother
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:22.230
because we had some strong parents
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:23.990
mothers in our days growing up that
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:25.269
didn't I don't care they didn't need a
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:26.470
man around them they were going to take
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:28.149
care of family and you was going to
00:28:28.159 --> 00:28:29.029
respect
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:30.230
>> and you know or you going to get
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:31.510
yourself in trouble or you going to find
00:28:31.520 --> 00:28:33.350
you someplace to stay.
00:28:33.360 --> 00:28:35.669
>> But that's a true story.
00:28:35.679 --> 00:28:37.590
>> Everybody is their baby. That's my baby.
00:28:37.600 --> 00:28:39.190
That's my baby now. Everybody their
00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:40.950
baby. So they you know
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:42.789
>> man that's a man we we going we going to
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:44.149
definitely come back to that in another
00:28:44.159 --> 00:28:47.110
episode of man is uh is uh how young men
00:28:47.120 --> 00:28:49.029
are being and I'm talking just out the
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:50.950
black culture folks. I'm not you know I
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:52.389
saying it you know just like I saying it
00:28:52.399 --> 00:28:54.950
now they they poor fam keeping it real.
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:56.310
We talking about black culture. I not
00:28:56.320 --> 00:28:58.389
talking about anybody else race our
00:28:58.399 --> 00:29:00.710
black men you get the dang mama titty
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:01.750
out of their mouth. But we gonna have
00:29:01.760 --> 00:29:03.830
that conversation another time. But we
00:29:03.840 --> 00:29:05.190
talking about the respect here folks.
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:06.789
And sometimes the balance, you know,
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:08.070
it's because sometimes what looks like
00:29:08.080 --> 00:29:09.430
disrespect is really a different
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.510
language. And I and I we understand that
00:29:11.520 --> 00:29:13.510
things have changed and evolved over the
00:29:13.520 --> 00:29:15.990
years, but the basis of it is, you know,
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:17.430
the small things count when you when
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:19.110
you're talking about respect. And then
00:29:19.120 --> 00:29:21.510
if you if your respect is different than
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my respect, then how how hard is it to
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have a have a easy conversation or don't
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fly off of me making it disrespectful
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people,
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>> right? We we're going to do some we're
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going to do a little rapid fire right
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quick um before we come to a close. Man,
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these these questions are quite unique.
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They're designed to be first start.
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Don't overthink them and then you just
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really say what comes to mind.
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>> Okay.
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>> Is uh yes sir or no sir. Is it a is it
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is it respect or outdated?
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>> It's a respect but it's outdated with
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the younger younger generation. But it's
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a respect that I grew up with that you
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had to say regardless of who you talking
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to. you if they were elder, you would
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speak to them as such cuz that's that's
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part of you your upbringing. They would
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receive
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>> true story.
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>> It it would just come right out your
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mouth automatically. Yes, sir. No sir.
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And when you my kids that I had my five
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girls, they were taught yes sir, no sir.
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But then as time goes on, you know,
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different things happen.
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>> Greeting people when you walk in,
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mandatory, optional?
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>> Mandatory. Yeah. You you have to you
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have to to let people know that you have
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an upbringing about yourself like you
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have like you know saying you you about
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something you come in the room you show
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respect you're going to get respect
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>> for sure elders should always be
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respected agree or disagree
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>> I agree wholeheartedly 100% because
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they're the reason why we're here
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>> they paved the way respect today is more
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about tone our behavior
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>> it's about behavior if you knew how to
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act and you knew how to act and act act
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accordingly, you would be respected, you
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know, always. You know what I'm saying?
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But at the same time, the younger crew
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got a different perspective.
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>> What's what's about? No, one thing
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younger folks get right about respect.
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>> My thing is they haven't gotten anything
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right about respect. They can really
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they can hardly really I mean the only
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they can barely spell respect. The only
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only reason they can they can spell
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respect if they let Franklin a record on
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a song on but so far as they have they
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don't have a clue about respect man.
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That's that's over their head. That
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that's
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>> Yep. Way over.
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>> One thing older folks need to unlearn
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about respect.
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>> They don't need to learn anything. They
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deserve the right to accept to be be
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always respected and always like I said
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without them there will be no us. So
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never forget where you come from and you
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came from their lineage. So there's no
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way in the world that you can say that
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they supposed to misunderstand respect.
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They're supposed to always be given
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respect. I agree. And folks on the
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porch, man, right before we close, man,
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last question for Mr. House. What's one
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thing each generation can do better to
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meet in the middle on respect?
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>> Getting an understanding about where it
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came from and and where it's supposed to
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be. try to go back to the old values of
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respect. Like I said, respect started
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with the a family foundation. And
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sometime it wasn't about a family
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foundation. It was a strong person who
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had good morals and would teach their
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kids that hey, respect cares you farther
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than money. If you keep that in mind,
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you will always, you know, you try to
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uphold that. That's like a law. Respect.
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>> It is a law. Still live by it to this
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day. Matters will take you further than
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money ever will.
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>> Ever will. And so once they get that in
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their head, everything else is easy. But
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right now, it just like I said,
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>> yeah,
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>> it's up in the air, man. It's up in the
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air.
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>> They fall into place.
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>> Hey, well folks, hey, respect isn't
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dead, but it is evolving. The question
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is whether we're willing to listen
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across generations instead of talking
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past each other. Folks, this is chilling
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on the front porch with Rod where we
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topped it out and we did not tear it
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down. Want to say thank you to Virgin
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for coming out, man, having this time.
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And there's more to follow, folks.
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Thanks for tuning in. We're chilling on
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the front porch with Roth.