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Incredible flavours, even better stories.
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One more, 10 minutes.
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Aussie bourbon lovers, sharing
bourbon with Australia.
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I know, it's silent.
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You didn't even do it really loudly.
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It's a screw cap.
I know.
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So there's no delightful pop
to start tonight's podcast.
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No, but Dave's going to tell
us what we're drinking tonight.
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This isn't Evan Williams bottled in bond.
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It's the Evan Williams white label,
which I was surprised to find in
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Australia, but it's
easy to find in the US.
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I think I just heard someone say it's the
most popular or most sold-
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Most sold bottle in Bond.
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Anyway.
Cheers.
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All right, let's begin with H.
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Tell me about what do
you know about this one?
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Well, I know it's a Bottled in Bond,
which, don't quiz me on it,
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but it's got a lot of ones.
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One distil Distiller, one distillery,
and one distilling season.
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It has to all meet those rules.
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Bottled in Bond has a lot of rules.
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I don't know if that's all of them.
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It has to be exactly 100 proof.
Oh, yes.
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Another number one with two zeros.
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But it's all one, one, one, one, one.
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That's how I remember it.
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I know there's more rules, but
they're the ones I remember.
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One Distilling Season, one Distiller,
one Distillery, and 100 proof.
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Okay.
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You can fact check us on that.
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One Distiller, one Distiller, you
sound like the same thing to me.
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All right, let's go with it.
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So what are you getting on the nose?
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Let's go with...
Can I start with...
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I think this is somewhere between
15 and 30 US dollars for a bottle.
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So this is not an expensive-No,
this is a very affordable...
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Get yourself a nice bottle of whiskey.
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Well, get yourself a bottle
of bottle of whiskey, right?
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Yeah.
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What are you getting?
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I'm getting lots of caramel.
Are you?
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Yeah.
I'm getting like a nuttiness.
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Like a vanilla pod.
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We said this recently, the nuttiness
thing, but like, yeah,
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it's a good bit of wood.
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Yeah, there's definitely smoke there.
Okay.
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Have a taste, Dave.
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Tell us what you got.
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That's delightful.
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You sound surprised.
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It's so Just effective.
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That is so much better than I was
expecting that to be, actually.
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Because I've heard people say
this is such a good go-to.
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Everyone should get a bottle of it.
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But look how boring the label is.
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You know how I bang on that?
It's boring labels.
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It's It's simple.
It's affordable.
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I don't even know where to put it.
Goodness, that's tasty.
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That is delicious.
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That has exactly the right
amount of vanilla and caramel-y.
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Yeah, it's very desserty.
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But for an affordable
whiskey, that's really good.
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I'm sorry that I'm so surprised.
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I think this is my first time having this.
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It's buttery or something.
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The mouth feels great.
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It's definitely desserty for me.
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It's got that like…
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When you're delicious.
But I would…
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Yeah, I'd love to have this
in a blind tasting, I reckon.
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Because I reckon it would really
confuse you with a more expensive one.
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But it'd be interesting to compare
them because that is really delicious.
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I think I thought I was going to get
something pretty rough around the edges
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because of how cost-effective it is.
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Well, it's the most solid bottle
in pond, so it's got to be good.
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That speaks for itself, really.
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Could be stated with the price tag.
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The DSP That's on there is DSP1, DSP KY1.
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But that's for Heaven and Hell Distillery.
Correct.
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Yeah, which I didn't
realise that were DSP1.
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Can you remind us what DSP KY1 means?
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It's like what distillery number they are.
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But then There was Prohibition, and they
had to go back, and some of them
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got their original numbers again.
Some of them didn't.
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But every distillery is registered,
and they have a number.
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And so that, obviously, was the first one.
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Dsp stands for Distilled Spirits Plant.
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Ky is the state, and then the
number is the national number.
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I'm fairly sure that's right.
I'm pretty sure.
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So DSP-KY1 means it's the first distil
spirits plant ever to be given a number.
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Yeah.
Pretty cool.
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I know.
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This is the stuff that I love,
the history of-The random stuff.
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That's a pretty cool
one to have, number one.
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And it goes with the theme of tonight,
one, one, one, one,
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What I was like, Oh, it's probably
not going to be much good.
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I'm not too worried about it.
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But now I think I'll- You
could pour yourself some more.
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We're only four minutes in there.
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Pour yourself another.
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I'm genuinely taken aback
by how good that is.
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He had all this stuff planned to say, and
now he's gobsmacked about how good it is.
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Part of the thing that really throws me
on this, so it's a plastic screw cap.
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It's the screw cap you
find at a Coke bottle.
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I'm not even being rude.
It just is.
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No, it doesn't It doesn't say
super fancy, super delicious.
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It's just super affordable and
it is really delightful.
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Yeah.
I mean, there's other bourbons I prefer.
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Is this easy to get in Australia or not?
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Well, I think I was surprised
that I could get it, so maybe not.
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Although I wonder if it's...
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Maybe it's just because I haven't been
looking for it or when I've
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seen it, I've ignored it.
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I'd say this is going to be one of these
ones where you can get
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it online pretty easy.
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But I think you wouldn't walk into
a normal-Dance and just pick it up.
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I think you wouldn't.
I'm happy you're told that I'm wrong.
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Why don't we have it out here?
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I don't know.
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Do you know what the
problem I think it is?
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Look how much that looks
like a Jim Beam white label.
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Yeah, that is true.
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That looks a lot like a-
I don't get it into focus.
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Just from a distance, it's the
square bottle with a white label on it.
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Yeah, and it's got the neck on it.
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It's very similar to the Jim Beam.
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Yeah, it does have a
very Jim Beam-esque look.
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Maybe it's just- I can't
believe how good that tastes.
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I am so embarrassed that
that's on our shelf unopened.
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It's the first pour
we're having out of it.
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It's my suggestion for tonight's podcast,
and I'm really glad we opened it.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that
is not going to last that long.
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I have a sneaking suspicion.
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I'm going to be sure I get
a few more bottles of it.
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The photo for the thumbnail
will be a full bottle, Dave.
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Well, depending on how much you
drink in the next five minutes.
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You're right.
It'll be a full bottle.
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Can't we pour some more?
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No, this is great.
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Why did they do bottle in Bond,
Do you know any information about that?
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Yeah.
Have I spoken about this before or not?
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I think we've touched on it briefly,
but that was a long time ago.
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So here's the thing.
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This is really before they were
selling whiskey in the bottles.
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This is like we're going way back,
probably '80s, '60s,
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'60s, '70s in that spell.
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And I don't read Fred Minnick's book where
he talks about this because
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there's so many more historians
who will write well about this.
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But basically what was happening is
you could make whiskey and sell whiskey
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to anyone and do whatever you want to it.
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Fill it out with whatever you liked.
Exactly.
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So you could put something
that was distilled.
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So maybe imagine a vodka
or something like that.
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And then you could put anything in it.
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And the go to is tobacco spit is the thing
that makes it the right
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colour, which is so gross.
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But that's something you could do.
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You could put a tea bag in
it to make it that colour.
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And then you could sell it and no one
would necessarily know what was in there
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because it's being sold in these barrels.
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So you don't know what you're getting.
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And so what they did is
they I said a few of them.
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Unfortunately, a lot of those
distilleries are no longer around.
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They all went by the wayside, but they
went and said, Let's go and get
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a-Official signed piece of paper.
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That's what it says.
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It's about getting
the legislation through.
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And so Bottled and Bound was the first
of these acts, the Bottled and Bound Act.
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I'm going to get the names of the people
wrong, but there were
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people who were involved.
I think Colonel E.
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H.
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Taylor was one of the
people involved in that.
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And he was lobbied the government and
said, said, Hey, we need to have a way of
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saying this is an official way of
saying this is a real American whiskey.
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And so this was the first thing.
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So before, there's the
rules about bourbon.
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Before that was instituted,
this thing of bottled in wine.
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This was before then.
This is early on.
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This was in 1890 something?
Yeah, 1897.
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They said that this is
what they wanted to do.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And it had to be at
least four years as well.
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And then so the rules for
bourbon came after that.
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Bourbon came, I think,
quite a fair bit later.
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I think bourbon seemed, I could be wrong
about this, but it might
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be like 1940s or something.
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I'm going to be wrong.
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I probably wasn't currently- I don't know
how many people check
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any of the stuff we say.
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Yeah, but there's some dudes.
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There were some dudes in America,
and they did some good work.
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But they made the bourbon taste delicious.
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And dear goodness, we love it.
So Evan Williams.
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So you can go to the
Evan Williams experience.
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I think it's called on the
Main Street in Louisville.
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Oh, yeah.
And you can go to Heaven Hill as well.
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You can.
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Yeah, that's out in- Because
that's where they make it.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And in fact, I think they've just
finished, or not just, but recently
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finished their new version
of their visitor experience.
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Not visitor experience, but
like the distillerian stuff.
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Because Heaven Hill make lots
of different expressions.
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Elijah Craig is one of them.
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So that's all in that group.
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So they know how to make good
quality, affordable bourbon.
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Well, that's why I'm looking at how little
I've got left because of
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how small your pour was.
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But that's why I was so pleasantly
surprised that this was so good, because
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they need to have these tiers of what's
the good stuff, what's the next best
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stuff, and then what do we sell
at 15 to 30 dollars a bottle.
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And so you can't expect
it to be that good.
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Is this there a super affordable one.
Well, this is one of them.
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There's also an Evan Williams black label,
which I'm going to guess is 80 proof.
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It's there.
It's not bottle in bond.
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So it's like- So it's less than this?
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Less proof, yeah.
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No, no, less cost.
I imagine.
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I don't know.
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But it But if you walk into a supermarket
in the US, I reckon you'll find both a
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black and white label, Evan Williams.
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I'm excited about doing a blind
tasting and putting that in.
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You're going to throw it in there.
It's a spanner.
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Not in the next one because
you're going to be looking for it.
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You'll be like, Which one is it?
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I'll have to wait a few.
I'll have to have a few.
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But that's going to...
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I'd like to just compare it to some of the
really more high-end ones because it
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really is delicious.
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But it might just be because
it's our first bourbon.
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Well, colour me surprised.
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That was more delightful
than I was expecting.
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If you can find yourself a bottle of that.
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In Australia, this is going to be maybe 70
bucks or something like that, which
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is well worth the spend, in my view.
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Yeah, so you can find it
because- Grab a bottle.
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I can I got that at Celebrations.
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But one- Yeah, and enjoy some
caramel-vanilla- And he'll have more.
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For sure.
Deliciousness.
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Yeah, real good bourbon-y notes
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Stop laughing at how
much I'm enjoying this.
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Go and get yourself a bottle.
And be surprised.
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I know, it's silent.
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You didn't even do it really loudly.
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It's a screw cap.
I know.
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So there's no delightful pop
to start tonight's podcast.
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No, but Dave's going to tell
us what we're drinking tonight.
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This isn't Evan Williams bottled in bond.
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It's the Evan Williams white label,
which I was surprised to find in
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Australia, but it's
easy to find in the US.
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I think I just heard someone say it's the
most popular or most sold-
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Most sold bottle in Bond.
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Anyway.
Cheers.
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All right, let's begin with H.
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Tell me about what do
you know about this one?
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Well, I know it's a Bottled in Bond,
which, don't quiz me on it,
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but it's got a lot of ones.
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One distil Distiller, one distillery,
and one distilling season.
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It has to all meet those rules.
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Bottled in Bond has a lot of rules.
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I don't know if that's all of them.
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It has to be exactly 100 proof.
Oh, yes.
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Another number one with two zeros.
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But it's all one, one, one, one, one.
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That's how I remember it.
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I know there's more rules, but
they're the ones I remember.
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One Distilling Season, one Distiller,
one Distillery, and 100 proof.
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Okay.
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You can fact check us on that.
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One Distiller, one Distiller, you
sound like the same thing to me.
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All right, let's go with it.
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So what are you getting on the nose?
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Let's go with...
Can I start with...
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I think this is somewhere between
15 and 30 US dollars for a bottle.
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So this is not an expensive-No,
this is a very affordable...
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Get yourself a nice bottle of whiskey.
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Well, get yourself a bottle
of bottle of whiskey, right?
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Yeah.
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What are you getting?
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I'm getting lots of caramel.
Are you?
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Yeah.
I'm getting like a nuttiness.
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Like a vanilla pod.
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We said this recently, the nuttiness
thing, but like, yeah,
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it's a good bit of wood.
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Yeah, there's definitely smoke there.
Okay.
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Have a taste, Dave.
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Tell us what you got.
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That's delightful.
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You sound surprised.
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It's so Just effective.
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That is so much better than I was
expecting that to be, actually.
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Because I've heard people say
this is such a good go-to.
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Everyone should get a bottle of it.
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But look how boring the label is.
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You know how I bang on that?
It's boring labels.
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It's It's simple.
It's affordable.
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I don't even know where to put it.
Goodness, that's tasty.
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That is delicious.
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That has exactly the right
amount of vanilla and caramel-y.
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Yeah, it's very desserty.
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But for an affordable
whiskey, that's really good.
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I'm sorry that I'm so surprised.
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I think this is my first time having this.
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It's buttery or something.
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The mouth feels great.
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It's definitely desserty for me.
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It's got that like…
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When you're delicious.
But I would…
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Yeah, I'd love to have this
in a blind tasting, I reckon.
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Because I reckon it would really
confuse you with a more expensive one.
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But it'd be interesting to compare
them because that is really delicious.
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I think I thought I was going to get
something pretty rough around the edges
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because of how cost-effective it is.
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Well, it's the most solid bottle
in pond, so it's got to be good.
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That speaks for itself, really.
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Could be stated with the price tag.
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The DSP That's on there is DSP1, DSP KY1.
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But that's for Heaven and Hell Distillery.
Correct.
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Yeah, which I didn't
realise that were DSP1.
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Can you remind us what DSP KY1 means?
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It's like what distillery number they are.
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But then There was Prohibition, and they
had to go back, and some of them
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got their original numbers again.
Some of them didn't.
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But every distillery is registered,
and they have a number.
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And so that, obviously, was the first one.
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Dsp stands for Distilled Spirits Plant.
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Ky is the state, and then the
number is the national number.
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I'm fairly sure that's right.
I'm pretty sure.
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So DSP-KY1 means it's the first distil
spirits plant ever to be given a number.
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Yeah.
Pretty cool.
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I know.
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This is the stuff that I love,
the history of-The random stuff.
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That's a pretty cool
one to have, number one.
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Yeah.
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And it goes with the theme of tonight,
one, one, one, one,
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What I was like, Oh, it's probably
not going to be much good.
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I'm not too worried about it.
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But now I think I'll- You
could pour yourself some more.
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We're only four minutes in there.
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Pour yourself another.
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I'm genuinely taken aback
by how good that is.
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He had all this stuff planned to say, and
now he's gobsmacked about how good it is.
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Part of the thing that really throws me
on this, so it's a plastic screw cap.
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It's the screw cap you
find at a Coke bottle.
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I'm not even being rude.
It just is.
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No, it doesn't It doesn't say
super fancy, super delicious.
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It's just super affordable and
it is really delightful.
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Yeah.
I mean, there's other bourbons I prefer.
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Is this easy to get in Australia or not?
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Well, I think I was surprised
that I could get it, so maybe not.
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Although I wonder if it's...
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Maybe it's just because I haven't been
looking for it or when I've
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seen it, I've ignored it.
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I'd say this is going to be one of these
ones where you can get
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it online pretty easy.
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But I think you wouldn't walk into
a normal-Dance and just pick it up.
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I think you wouldn't.
I'm happy you're told that I'm wrong.
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Why don't we have it out here?
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I don't know.
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Do you know what the
problem I think it is?
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Look how much that looks
like a Jim Beam white label.
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Yeah, that is true.
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That looks a lot like a-
I don't get it into focus.
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Just from a distance, it's the
square bottle with a white label on it.
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Yeah, and it's got the neck on it.
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It's very similar to the Jim Beam.
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Yeah, it does have a
very Jim Beam-esque look.
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Maybe it's just- I can't
believe how good that tastes.
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I am so embarrassed that
that's on our shelf unopened.
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It's the first pour
we're having out of it.
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It's my suggestion for tonight's podcast,
and I'm really glad we opened it.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that
is not going to last that long.
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I have a sneaking suspicion.
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I'm going to be sure I get
a few more bottles of it.
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The photo for the thumbnail
will be a full bottle, Dave.
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Well, depending on how much you
drink in the next five minutes.
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You're right.
It'll be a full bottle.
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Can't we pour some more?
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No, this is great.
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Why did they do bottle in Bond,
Do you know any information about that?
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Yeah.
Have I spoken about this before or not?
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I think we've touched on it briefly,
but that was a long time ago.
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So here's the thing.
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This is really before they were
selling whiskey in the bottles.
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This is like we're going way back,
probably '80s, '60s,
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'60s, '70s in that spell.
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And I don't read Fred Minnick's book where
he talks about this because
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there's so many more historians
who will write well about this.
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But basically what was happening is
you could make whiskey and sell whiskey
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to anyone and do whatever you want to it.
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Fill it out with whatever you liked.
Exactly.
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So you could put something
that was distilled.
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So maybe imagine a vodka
or something like that.
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And then you could put anything in it.
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And the go to is tobacco spit is the thing
that makes it the right
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colour, which is so gross.
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But that's something you could do.
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You could put a tea bag in
it to make it that colour.
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And then you could sell it and no one
would necessarily know what was in there
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because it's being sold in these barrels.
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So you don't know what you're getting.
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And so what they did is
they I said a few of them.
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Unfortunately, a lot of those
distilleries are no longer around.
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They all went by the wayside, but they
went and said, Let's go and get
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a-Official signed piece of paper.
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That's what it says.
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It's about getting
the legislation through.
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And so Bottled and Bound was the first
of these acts, the Bottled and Bound Act.
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I'm going to get the names of the people
wrong, but there were
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people who were involved.
I think Colonel E.
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H.
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Taylor was one of the
people involved in that.
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And he was lobbied the government and
said, said, Hey, we need to have a way of
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saying this is an official way of
saying this is a real American whiskey.
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And so this was the first thing.
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So before, there's the
rules about bourbon.
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Before that was instituted,
this thing of bottled in wine.
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This was before then.
This is early on.
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This was in 1890 something?
Yeah, 1897.
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They said that this is
what they wanted to do.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And it had to be at
least four years as well.
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And then so the rules for
bourbon came after that.
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Bourbon came, I think,
quite a fair bit later.
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I think bourbon seemed, I could be wrong
about this, but it might
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be like 1940s or something.
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I'm going to be wrong.
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I probably wasn't currently- I don't know
how many people check
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any of the stuff we say.
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Yeah, but there's some dudes.
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There were some dudes in America,
and they did some good work.
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But they made the bourbon taste delicious.
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And dear goodness, we love it.
So Evan Williams.
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So you can go to the
Evan Williams experience.
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I think it's called on the
Main Street in Louisville.
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Oh, yeah.
And you can go to Heaven Hill as well.
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You can.
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Yeah, that's out in- Because
that's where they make it.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And in fact, I think they've just
finished, or not just, but recently
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finished their new version
of their visitor experience.
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Not visitor experience, but
like the distillerian stuff.
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Because Heaven Hill make lots
of different expressions.
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Elijah Craig is one of them.
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So that's all in that group.
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So they know how to make good
quality, affordable bourbon.
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Well, that's why I'm looking at how little
I've got left because of
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how small your pour was.
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But that's why I was so pleasantly
surprised that this was so good, because
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they need to have these tiers of what's
the good stuff, what's the next best
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stuff, and then what do we sell
at 15 to 30 dollars a bottle.
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And so you can't expect
it to be that good.
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Is this there a super affordable one.
Well, this is one of them.
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There's also an Evan Williams black label,
which I'm going to guess is 80 proof.
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It's there.
It's not bottle in bond.
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So it's like- So it's less than this?
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Less proof, yeah.
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No, no, less cost.
I imagine.
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I don't know.
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But it But if you walk into a supermarket
in the US, I reckon you'll find both a
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black and white label, Evan Williams.
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I'm excited about doing a blind
tasting and putting that in.
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You're going to throw it in there.
It's a spanner.
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Not in the next one because
you're going to be looking for it.
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You'll be like, Which one is it?
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I'll have to wait a few.
I'll have to have a few.
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But that's going to...
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I'd like to just compare it to some of the
really more high-end ones because it
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really is delicious.
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But it might just be because
it's our first bourbon.
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Well, colour me surprised.
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That was more delightful
than I was expecting.
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If you can find yourself a bottle of that.
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In Australia, this is going to be maybe 70
bucks or something like that, which
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is well worth the spend, in my view.
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Yeah, so you can find it
because- Grab a bottle.
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I can I got that at Celebrations.
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But one- Yeah, and enjoy some
caramel-vanilla- And he'll have more.
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For sure.
Deliciousness.
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Yeah, real good bourbon-y notes
and a really excellent mouthfeel.
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Stop laughing at how
much I'm enjoying this.
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Go and get yourself a bottle.
And be surprised.
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