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Hi everybody, this is Keith MuzikMan Hannaleck with the Final on Vinyl Podcast.
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And today we have Undertones.
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I want to say the Desert Undertones, but it's Desert Undertone.
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And uh all three of the gentlemen are here, Dylan Oldham, um, who plays guitar, Christopher Marshall plays bass Curtis Pleist on drums.
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Well, thank you so much for coming to talk to me.
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And uh I really loved your your recent release and all that great artwork, all that goes together so well when you're talking about surf instrumental music.
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Yeah.
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So maybe y'all can give us a little background on how you came together and um things of that nature, what were some of your influences growing up?
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How does that sound?
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Yeah, yeah, sure.
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Um I could start that.
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Um so yeah, I've kind of always liked surf music since um I saw the movie Pulp Fiction, like a lot of people.
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And um when I was young, um yeah, I went to a music a music institute called Musicians Institute in Hollywood, California, and I uh met some friends there.
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They're actually in another band called the Riptide Rats now in Sweden, but um we I played bass in that band, and that was really cool because it was in California and we got to uh you know kind of hang out with a lot of the scene and see a lot of the great bands like Flactone and Insect Surfers and all that.
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And um yeah, those big influenced me.
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I always loved it.
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I uh moved out of LA to New York for like a decade and just kind of put surf music on hold.
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But uh uh but in 2020 I moved to Tucson and for some reason I you know came back and I just really wanted to be in a surf band and I wanted to play guitar in a surf band.
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And uh yeah, I found these guys, so they can tell you more about um their history with it, but that's kind of my brief history of how this band formed.
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Um it took a while, like for a few years we were looking for drummers, we couldn't find anybody, but finally in 2023 we found Kurt and it all kind of came together.
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So nice.
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I know that Slack tone uh album, I still love that.
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What a great album, the very first one they came out.
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Oh the first one, yeah.
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Yeah, they're all great.
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Yeah, probably into the blue sparkle is my favorite, but yeah, the first one is amazing too.
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Into the blue sparkle, yeah.
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I got that.
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And you know what?
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I saw that up on eBay.
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Somebody's trying to get like five hundred dollars for it.
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Isn't that crazy?
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What I have one I should say 500 bucks.
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Pretty crazy.
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Well, thank you for that little intro.
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And uh other band members want to chime in here and talk a little bit about how you all got together and some of your influences and so forth.
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Um Chris, you want to take a shot at first?
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Hey, sorry, I just got booted off the line, but it looks like I came back at the right time.
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Um talking about the formation of the band?
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Yeah, you influences Dylan was uh describing when he moved to Tucson, uh he put out an ad in Craigslist looking to start a surf band.
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Uh and so Dylan and I jammed around for a while playing some other music as well.
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But um the first iteration of our surf band didn't really take off um until after he moved away and came back, and we got Kurt.
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Um, as far as my influences for bass, I really am strongly influenced by the first wave of surf music and a lot of classic rock uh bassists like Paul McCartney, um John Entwistle, and uh Bill Wyman.
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All great bass player, that's for sure.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So for my uh sort of introduction into the band, I um I moved down to Tucson probably about a year before Dylan came back to Tucson.
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I I moved down here in 2022 from the Denver area.
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Um and I had I have a pretty wide background, but probably kind of mostly centered around rock and blues type influences, although I did play with a couple different guitar players that were really into surf um and kind of turned me on to early like 60s ventures, Dick Dale type stuff.
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And then I had another guitar player buddy of mine who turned me on to uh the merman.
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Um especially that that uh curl slipping record that they did.
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I don't know, it was like eight late 80s, early 90s, something like that.
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Um so I I I really kind of got into that.
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And then uh uh same deal as Chris.
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I uh Dylan had run a credit list ad, you know, turns out that still works occasionally.
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For musicians, yeah.
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It's it's a scary world out there, but it does work occasionally.
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So yeah, that's how I linked up with Dylan and uh you know started doing uh desert undertones stuff.
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Thank you.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I was just thinking about you know people like you that choose to go in that direction, and you know, you hear that you're you're never gonna get rich playing surf music because it is a kind of a small community.
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It's a worldwide community, but it is small.
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And I think, as far as I know, is the only genre that that does what you do is put out these 45, 7 inch records with a couple of songs on them.
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Sometimes they're like there's like four songs, like under you know, three minutes, two minutes each, or whatever.
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And all this great artwork.
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Uh I don't know what you what do you guys think?
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I mean, it seems to me, it seems like that's the only genre that really does that now.
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Yeah, we're keeping the uh seven-inch business alive, I guess.
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It's uh yeah, it is strange.
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Not many people do the 45s.
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People the records are coming back, you know, the the LPs.
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But yeah, I guess I don't know.
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I'm sure there's other music genres that that do it, but surf is yeah, definitely uh a key one for that because people really like the 45s.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And plus you see sometimes you'll see two bands, you know.
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Two different songs of bands on the same record.
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You know, surf is kind of uh there's the element of vintage to it, and people like that, you know, because that's uh vintage thing, 45s, you know.
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Jay get the vintage reverbs, the vintage amps.
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You know, so kind of vent vintage lifestyle, I guess.
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Are any of you guys familiar with the artwork of Ed Roth, Ratfink and all that stuff?
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Uh yeah, at least a little bit.
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Yeah.
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What what do you think of that?
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What's that?
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Oh, I was just saying I haven't heard of him.
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Oh no.
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Well he's he's no longer around, but he's they have a website out there and they they firm out the the artwork that he did.
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Yeah, I actually um I ran across a documentary on him.
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I don't remember right.
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It might have been Netflix or something, or one of the streaming services.
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I somehow just randomly landed on that not too long ago, just in the last few months, probably.
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Um it was very interesting.
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Yeah, you should uh look that up if you haven't seen it.
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It's it's uh it's worth a it's an hour or something, maybe.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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I know there's a myth of the song called Rat Thanks.
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Oh, is there I think so.
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I'll definitely look that up on Netflix.
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I'd like to know more about his story and how that came to be.
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That that 60s vibe, I think, no matter how many waves of surf there are, is always gonna be part of it.
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It's like the foundation of everything, you know, even though you can spread out and and you go into all these different subgenres, you know, and that one thing is like the rock.
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It's always gonna be there.
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D do you guys agree to that?
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Um, yeah, I think that's uh that's true, you know.
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It started it all, and I really think back then it's almost like different songwriting.
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They really and I really like that about it, you know, to the people that try to do traditional surf today, but a little different.
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I think that's kind of what we try to do, you know, really focus on melody.
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That's what it was all about, you know, really crafting uh a nice melody and everything else is second, you know.
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And I like that, like, you know, in the nineties or something, there was a different feel to it, but a lot of bands still get that surf element where it's like really melody focused.
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And that's what I like about surf music, just focused music.
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You can do so much with it.
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It seems like, you know, like I've heard songs where it sounds like it's three different songs, all in one.
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It's just all these directions you can go with that music.
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And when I first started listening back in the early 90s, I thought, oh, this is kind of like basic rock, you know, but no, there's there's a lot more to it, you know.
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Yeah, it's it's uh yeah, there's a lot more to it than basic rock in my opinion.
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That's uh part of why I love it.
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So uh all of you guys have day jobs, right?
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And this is something that you do for enjoyment and just for the love and passion of it, right?
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Yeah, like you said, making a living on on surf, hopefully.
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Maybe one day, who knows?
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Yeah, well, I have a day job.
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Um Chris does, I don't think Kurt does, he can tell you.
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No, I'm not working a regular job.
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I I do have multiple music projects though.
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Oh, okay.
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So you're in demand?
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I don't know if I'm in demand, but I'm available.
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I'll put it that way.
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I do a lot of um uh recording stuff for people, not just playing in bands.
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Well, that's good.
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Stay busy doing that.
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Yeah, that's great.
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Well, hopefully there'll be more of an audience out there.
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I I think it's to me, it's really colorful, happy music.
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Makes me smile, you know, and it makes me move.
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And if more people heard it, they'd probably be saying to themselves, why haven't I listened to this before?
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You know, it's all about getting the word out, and that's why I do what I do with with folks like you and your music is to get the word out and push it out there and make it available so people can discover you.
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Yeah, we bring it to the show.
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It is weird when surf like when people go to a surf show, you know, they they often love the music, you know.
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They've never a lot of people have never heard it or something.
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But you know, I don't understand.
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It just doesn't sometimes it doesn't seem to catch on with them.
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They just think it's fun and cool, but I don't know, maybe they go home and listen to it and it spans the audience, but everybody likes it when they hear it.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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How could you not, right?
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Yeah.
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So what do you guys listen to when you're not making music?
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Do you have like certain genres besides surf you like to hear?
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You like to listen to jazz or blues or so but for me, yeah, I like I like a bunch of music.
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I mean, I went through a big phase when I was living in New York playing in jazz bands and stuff, so I love jazz.
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I mean I love progressive rock.
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I've played in rock bands my whole life.
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Me and Kurt were even in a rock band for a while.
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Um yeah, I love like I was saying in some other interview, uh like the 70s and 80s stuff, movie soundtracks, like you know, Tears for Fears, or uh, you know, uh bands like that.
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I I I like a lot of have a lot of influences, so it's not just surf, but of course I love all the classic surf guys and bands too.
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Do you guys have a lot of vinyl collections?
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I'm kind of recent to uh vinyl.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I have I have a collection now, but I've only been doing the vinyl thing for like a year and a half, so yeah.
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For me, I had a bunch of vinyl.
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I kind of just recently gifted most of my vinyl collection to my nephew, who's like he's about 20 right now, and he's super into vinyl, so he has all my vinyl at the moment.
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Wow, that's very generous of you.
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Yeah, by the time that I was getting into uh buying my own like physical media uh music, uh vinyl had far gone away, but I uh have quite a few uh records for my parents and building up my own collection.
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Nice.
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I have a ton of uh it's uh I find it very addicting.
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I don't know what you guys you guys feel about it, but it's it's you know, I'll sell some and then I'll buy two, you know, I'll sell one, buy two.
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Just keep going.
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Yeah, I think it's real cool to have, you know, especially our that we have vinyl now.
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I think it's really cool to just have this uh, you know, vinyl or we can put it on a turntable and look at the art and stuff.
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I think that's really cool, but I'm pretty new to it, but yeah, I'm becoming collector now, I guess.
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Yeah, there there's so much more to it than you know just listening to a stream on Spotify.
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You know.
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Yeah, that's what I'm special about having a record.
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Yep.
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So what are the plans for the future for you guys?
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Are you planning on putting out uh full-length LP soon?
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So um we have we have the LP we just put out in December.
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Um but we're planning on putting out a second LP um hopefully at the end of this year.
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We like December releases.
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Uh thinking maybe this time we can do it either like November or January, maybe somewhere a little different.
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But yeah, it's kind of throughout the year.
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We have all the songs written now.
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We're actually just, I think our next practice is gonna be, you know, working on like the last couple new songs we have.
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And then we've already recorded some and we're gonna continue recording throughout the year and hopefully have another release at the end of the year.
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Uh end of the year.
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Oh, nice.
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You sent me the was it the Sentinel it was called?
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Yeah, The Sentinels, yeah, it's a it's uh it's an album, ten tracks.
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I look forward to hearing that.
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Yeah, and uh Kurt Kurt can talk about this too, but he does all our recordings, so um, I don't know if you're aware of that, which is a huge help to the band because he's really good at it and they sound great.
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And we do it all at his house for free, so that's a huge plus for us.
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We're able to put out a lot more music and probably most bands that are just two years old or whatever, you know.
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Right.
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That's definitely an advantage.
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I mean, otherwise you'd have to rent the studio time, right?
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Yeah, I know there's a lot that goes into it, yeah.
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I've I've done you know recording with other bands where you have to there's so much you have to do to just get a record done.
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So So who handles all the engineering and the board and everything in the mixed out when you when you get done?
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Uh that's everything's Kurt uh Kurt Wayne.
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Yeah, re-record it at my place and then I uh I mix it and I actually even do the mastering on it.
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Wow.
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So you guys are self self-sufficient, that's great.
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As far as that goes, yeah.
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I mean we probably um I I think artwork is is something that's always difficult to find in.
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We found an artist to work with, you mentioned it earlier, and he does a great job.
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Um so that that took us a little while to find the right guy, but uh especially for vinyl, I mean that's huge to have good artwork.
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Absolutely.
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I agree.
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Well, I'd like to thank all of you for spending your time with me and talking about your music and everything.
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And um are you are you looking for a label?
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Is that something that you want to do?
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Or you just want to continue to release independently?
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You reach out to a few people for the sentinel, I don't know, kind of got declined everywhere.
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I I don't really I I guess there's a benefit of like getting your name out there, so that would be good so we'd like to do that.
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But like the self-release went pretty well.
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I mean, we weren't we sold a good amount of them already.
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I'm pretty sure we're gonna get our money back and everything.
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So um I mean I think a label would be cool to yeah, get our name out there more, but I think a lot of people are starting to find out about us too.
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So I don't know.
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We'll see on our next record if somebody wants to maybe make a deal.
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We did do uh the Colorado fanzine guy.
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Uh that was kind of like a semi-label thing.
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He partnered up with us for uh Massacre Canyon, so that was cool.
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Yeah, Matthew Clark, yeah.
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He's he's really busy.
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He's he's got a day job too, and he's flying all over the place doing interviews and covering concerts.
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I don't know how he does it.
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Yeah, he's a busy guy.
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Yeah, I talked to him a good amount, yeah.
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All right.
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Well, thank you so much, Jets.
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I'll uh add this to the review and get the word out about this interview, and hopefully we can have another conversation when the new album comes around.
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Yeah, appreciate it, Keith.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, thanks for having us.
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We do appreciate it.
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Yeah, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you all.
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Take care now.
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Bye bye.
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Take care.
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Bye.
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Hi everybody, this is Keith MuzikMan Hannaleck with the Final on Vinyl Podcast.
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And today we have Undertones.
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I want to say the Desert Undertones, but it's Desert Undertone.
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And uh all three of the gentlemen are here, Dylan Oldham, um, who plays guitar, Christopher Marshall plays bass Curtis Pleist on drums.
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Well, thank you so much for coming to talk to me.
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And uh I really loved your your recent release and all that great artwork, all that goes together so well when you're talking about surf instrumental music.
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Yeah.
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So maybe y'all can give us a little background on how you came together and um things of that nature, what were some of your influences growing up?
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How does that sound?
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Yeah, yeah, sure.
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Um I could start that.
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Um so yeah, I've kind of always liked surf music since um I saw the movie Pulp Fiction, like a lot of people.
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And um when I was young, um yeah, I went to a music a music institute called Musicians Institute in Hollywood, California, and I uh met some friends there.
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They're actually in another band called the Riptide Rats now in Sweden, but um we I played bass in that band, and that was really cool because it was in California and we got to uh you know kind of hang out with a lot of the scene and see a lot of the great bands like Flactone and Insect Surfers and all that.
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And um yeah, those big influenced me.
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I always loved it.
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I uh moved out of LA to New York for like a decade and just kind of put surf music on hold.
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But uh uh but in 2020 I moved to Tucson and for some reason I you know came back and I just really wanted to be in a surf band and I wanted to play guitar in a surf band.
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And uh yeah, I found these guys, so they can tell you more about um their history with it, but that's kind of my brief history of how this band formed.
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Um it took a while, like for a few years we were looking for drummers, we couldn't find anybody, but finally in 2023 we found Kurt and it all kind of came together.
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So nice.
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I know that Slack tone uh album, I still love that.
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What a great album, the very first one they came out.
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Oh the first one, yeah.
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Yeah, they're all great.
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Yeah, probably into the blue sparkle is my favorite, but yeah, the first one is amazing too.
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Into the blue sparkle, yeah.
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I got that.
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And you know what?
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I saw that up on eBay.
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Somebody's trying to get like five hundred dollars for it.
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Isn't that crazy?
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What I have one I should say 500 bucks.
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Pretty crazy.
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Well, thank you for that little intro.
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And uh other band members want to chime in here and talk a little bit about how you all got together and some of your influences and so forth.
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Um Chris, you want to take a shot at first?
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Hey, sorry, I just got booted off the line, but it looks like I came back at the right time.
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Um talking about the formation of the band?
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Yeah, you influences Dylan was uh describing when he moved to Tucson, uh he put out an ad in Craigslist looking to start a surf band.
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Uh and so Dylan and I jammed around for a while playing some other music as well.
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But um the first iteration of our surf band didn't really take off um until after he moved away and came back, and we got Kurt.
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Um, as far as my influences for bass, I really am strongly influenced by the first wave of surf music and a lot of classic rock uh bassists like Paul McCartney, um John Entwistle, and uh Bill Wyman.
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All great bass player, that's for sure.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So for my uh sort of introduction into the band, I um I moved down to Tucson probably about a year before Dylan came back to Tucson.
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I I moved down here in 2022 from the Denver area.
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Um and I had I have a pretty wide background, but probably kind of mostly centered around rock and blues type influences, although I did play with a couple different guitar players that were really into surf um and kind of turned me on to early like 60s ventures, Dick Dale type stuff.
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And then I had another guitar player buddy of mine who turned me on to uh the merman.
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Um especially that that uh curl slipping record that they did.
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I don't know, it was like eight late 80s, early 90s, something like that.
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Um so I I I really kind of got into that.
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And then uh uh same deal as Chris.
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I uh Dylan had run a credit list ad, you know, turns out that still works occasionally.
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For musicians, yeah.
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It's it's a scary world out there, but it does work occasionally.
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So yeah, that's how I linked up with Dylan and uh you know started doing uh desert undertones stuff.
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Thank you.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I was just thinking about you know people like you that choose to go in that direction, and you know, you hear that you're you're never gonna get rich playing surf music because it is a kind of a small community.
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It's a worldwide community, but it is small.
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And I think, as far as I know, is the only genre that that does what you do is put out these 45, 7 inch records with a couple of songs on them.
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Sometimes they're like there's like four songs, like under you know, three minutes, two minutes each, or whatever.
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And all this great artwork.
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Uh I don't know what you what do you guys think?
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I mean, it seems to me, it seems like that's the only genre that really does that now.
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Yeah, we're keeping the uh seven-inch business alive, I guess.
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It's uh yeah, it is strange.
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Not many people do the 45s.
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People the records are coming back, you know, the the LPs.
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But yeah, I guess I don't know.
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I'm sure there's other music genres that that do it, but surf is yeah, definitely uh a key one for that because people really like the 45s.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And plus you see sometimes you'll see two bands, you know.
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Two different songs of bands on the same record.
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You know, surf is kind of uh there's the element of vintage to it, and people like that, you know, because that's uh vintage thing, 45s, you know.
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Jay get the vintage reverbs, the vintage amps.
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You know, so kind of vent vintage lifestyle, I guess.
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Are any of you guys familiar with the artwork of Ed Roth, Ratfink and all that stuff?
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Uh yeah, at least a little bit.
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Yeah.
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What what do you think of that?
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What's that?
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Oh, I was just saying I haven't heard of him.
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Oh no.
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Well he's he's no longer around, but he's they have a website out there and they they firm out the the artwork that he did.
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Yeah, I actually um I ran across a documentary on him.
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I don't remember right.
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It might have been Netflix or something, or one of the streaming services.
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I somehow just randomly landed on that not too long ago, just in the last few months, probably.
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Um it was very interesting.
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Yeah, you should uh look that up if you haven't seen it.
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It's it's uh it's worth a it's an hour or something, maybe.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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I know there's a myth of the song called Rat Thanks.
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Oh, is there I think so.
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I'll definitely look that up on Netflix.
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I'd like to know more about his story and how that came to be.
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That that 60s vibe, I think, no matter how many waves of surf there are, is always gonna be part of it.
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It's like the foundation of everything, you know, even though you can spread out and and you go into all these different subgenres, you know, and that one thing is like the rock.
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It's always gonna be there.
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D do you guys agree to that?
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Um, yeah, I think that's uh that's true, you know.
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It started it all, and I really think back then it's almost like different songwriting.
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They really and I really like that about it, you know, to the people that try to do traditional surf today, but a little different.
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I think that's kind of what we try to do, you know, really focus on melody.
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That's what it was all about, you know, really crafting uh a nice melody and everything else is second, you know.
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And I like that, like, you know, in the nineties or something, there was a different feel to it, but a lot of bands still get that surf element where it's like really melody focused.
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And that's what I like about surf music, just focused music.
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You can do so much with it.
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It seems like, you know, like I've heard songs where it sounds like it's three different songs, all in one.
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It's just all these directions you can go with that music.
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And when I first started listening back in the early 90s, I thought, oh, this is kind of like basic rock, you know, but no, there's there's a lot more to it, you know.
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Yeah, it's it's uh yeah, there's a lot more to it than basic rock in my opinion.
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That's uh part of why I love it.
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So uh all of you guys have day jobs, right?
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And this is something that you do for enjoyment and just for the love and passion of it, right?
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Yeah, like you said, making a living on on surf, hopefully.
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Maybe one day, who knows?
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Yeah, well, I have a day job.
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Um Chris does, I don't think Kurt does, he can tell you.
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No, I'm not working a regular job.
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I I do have multiple music projects though.
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Oh, okay.
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So you're in demand?
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I don't know if I'm in demand, but I'm available.
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I'll put it that way.
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I do a lot of um uh recording stuff for people, not just playing in bands.
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Well, that's good.
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Stay busy doing that.
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Yeah, that's great.
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Well, hopefully there'll be more of an audience out there.
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I I think it's to me, it's really colorful, happy music.
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Makes me smile, you know, and it makes me move.
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And if more people heard it, they'd probably be saying to themselves, why haven't I listened to this before?
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You know, it's all about getting the word out, and that's why I do what I do with with folks like you and your music is to get the word out and push it out there and make it available so people can discover you.
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Yeah, we bring it to the show.
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It is weird when surf like when people go to a surf show, you know, they they often love the music, you know.
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They've never a lot of people have never heard it or something.
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But you know, I don't understand.
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It just doesn't sometimes it doesn't seem to catch on with them.
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They just think it's fun and cool, but I don't know, maybe they go home and listen to it and it spans the audience, but everybody likes it when they hear it.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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How could you not, right?
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Yeah.
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So what do you guys listen to when you're not making music?
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Do you have like certain genres besides surf you like to hear?
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You like to listen to jazz or blues or so but for me, yeah, I like I like a bunch of music.
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I mean, I went through a big phase when I was living in New York playing in jazz bands and stuff, so I love jazz.
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I mean I love progressive rock.
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I've played in rock bands my whole life.
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Me and Kurt were even in a rock band for a while.
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Um yeah, I love like I was saying in some other interview, uh like the 70s and 80s stuff, movie soundtracks, like you know, Tears for Fears, or uh, you know, uh bands like that.
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I I I like a lot of have a lot of influences, so it's not just surf, but of course I love all the classic surf guys and bands too.
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Do you guys have a lot of vinyl collections?
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I'm kind of recent to uh vinyl.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I have I have a collection now, but I've only been doing the vinyl thing for like a year and a half, so yeah.
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For me, I had a bunch of vinyl.
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I kind of just recently gifted most of my vinyl collection to my nephew, who's like he's about 20 right now, and he's super into vinyl, so he has all my vinyl at the moment.
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Wow, that's very generous of you.
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Yeah, by the time that I was getting into uh buying my own like physical media uh music, uh vinyl had far gone away, but I uh have quite a few uh records for my parents and building up my own collection.
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Nice.
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I have a ton of uh it's uh I find it very addicting.
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I don't know what you guys you guys feel about it, but it's it's you know, I'll sell some and then I'll buy two, you know, I'll sell one, buy two.
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Just keep going.
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Yeah, I think it's real cool to have, you know, especially our that we have vinyl now.
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I think it's really cool to just have this uh, you know, vinyl or we can put it on a turntable and look at the art and stuff.
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I think that's really cool, but I'm pretty new to it, but yeah, I'm becoming collector now, I guess.
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Yeah, there there's so much more to it than you know just listening to a stream on Spotify.
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You know.
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Yeah, that's what I'm special about having a record.
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Yep.
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So what are the plans for the future for you guys?
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Are you planning on putting out uh full-length LP soon?
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So um we have we have the LP we just put out in December.
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Um but we're planning on putting out a second LP um hopefully at the end of this year.
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We like December releases.
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Uh thinking maybe this time we can do it either like November or January, maybe somewhere a little different.
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But yeah, it's kind of throughout the year.
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We have all the songs written now.
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We're actually just, I think our next practice is gonna be, you know, working on like the last couple new songs we have.
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And then we've already recorded some and we're gonna continue recording throughout the year and hopefully have another release at the end of the year.
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Uh end of the year.
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Oh, nice.
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You sent me the was it the Sentinel it was called?
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Yeah, The Sentinels, yeah, it's a it's uh it's an album, ten tracks.
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I look forward to hearing that.
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Yeah, and uh Kurt Kurt can talk about this too, but he does all our recordings, so um, I don't know if you're aware of that, which is a huge help to the band because he's really good at it and they sound great.
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And we do it all at his house for free, so that's a huge plus for us.
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We're able to put out a lot more music and probably most bands that are just two years old or whatever, you know.
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Right.
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That's definitely an advantage.
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I mean, otherwise you'd have to rent the studio time, right?
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Yeah, I know there's a lot that goes into it, yeah.
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I've I've done you know recording with other bands where you have to there's so much you have to do to just get a record done.
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So So who handles all the engineering and the board and everything in the mixed out when you when you get done?
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Uh that's everything's Kurt uh Kurt Wayne.
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Yeah, re-record it at my place and then I uh I mix it and I actually even do the mastering on it.
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Wow.
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So you guys are self self-sufficient, that's great.
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As far as that goes, yeah.
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I mean we probably um I I think artwork is is something that's always difficult to find in.
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We found an artist to work with, you mentioned it earlier, and he does a great job.
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Um so that that took us a little while to find the right guy, but uh especially for vinyl, I mean that's huge to have good artwork.
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Absolutely.
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I agree.
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Well, I'd like to thank all of you for spending your time with me and talking about your music and everything.
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And um are you are you looking for a label?
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Is that something that you want to do?
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Or you just want to continue to release independently?
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You reach out to a few people for the sentinel, I don't know, kind of got declined everywhere.
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I I don't really I I guess there's a benefit of like getting your name out there, so that would be good so we'd like to do that.
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But like the self-release went pretty well.
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I mean, we weren't we sold a good amount of them already.
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I'm pretty sure we're gonna get our money back and everything.
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So um I mean I think a label would be cool to yeah, get our name out there more, but I think a lot of people are starting to find out about us too.
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So I don't know.
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We'll see on our next record if somebody wants to maybe make a deal.
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We did do uh the Colorado fanzine guy.
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Uh that was kind of like a semi-label thing.
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He partnered up with us for uh Massacre Canyon, so that was cool.
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Yeah, Matthew Clark, yeah.
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He's he's really busy.
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He's he's got a day job too, and he's flying all over the place doing interviews and covering concerts.
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I don't know how he does it.
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Yeah, he's a busy guy.
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Yeah, I talked to him a good amount, yeah.
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All right.
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Well, thank you so much, Jets.
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I'll uh add this to the review and get the word out about this interview, and hopefully we can have another conversation when the new album comes around.
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Yeah, appreciate it, Keith.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, thanks for having us.
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We do appreciate it.
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Yeah, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you all.
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Take care now.
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Bye bye.
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Take care.
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Bye.
