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Hello everyone, Welcome to the Skull Session recruiting podcast, brought
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to by Buckeye Hollow dot Com. I am Mark Givler,
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joined by Andrew Ellis. This evening, Ohio State has wrapped
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up its first official visit weekend of the June March
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to the twenty twenty seven recruiting class. June has become
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just an enormous month in recruiting. You no longer see
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that wave of December November officials like you used to see.
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There will still be some, of course, I'm sure, but
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June has kind of become the marquee month for schools
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trying to land commitments and guys trying to get their
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decisions in before their senior seasons begins. So a lot's
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going to be happening this month on the recruiting trail
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for the buck Eyes. Their first visit weekend was a
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smaller group, but I think maybe the most important group
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they're going to have this month, certainly one of the
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most important, certainly among the one or two most important weekends.
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So three five star prospects on campus based on different rankings,
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but all three of the players who are not currently
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committed to Ohio State were or ranked five stars by
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either one of the major services. Andrew, let's start. Let's
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start with Benny Easter because everyone talks, everyone's talking about
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the other two guy. We're gonna give Benny Easter the
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first crack because everyone's obsessed with the other two guys.
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But Benny Easter is a.
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Guy who's really come on lately in terms of the
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interest from Ohio State, his interest in Ohio State committed
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to Texas Tech early. We know the deal when you're
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recruiting against Texas Tech that it's no secret. Cody Campbell
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doesn't hide it from anybody. They're billionaire booster. Texas Tech
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is here to spend big money to be competitive in
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college football. It's paid off for them actually so far.
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They had a great season last year. Who knows how
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the Sowarsby thing's gonna impact them this year, but the
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rest of the roster looks pretty darn good. So you know,
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if you're gonna battle Texas Tech, you can't go into it.
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You know, well, we're not going to spend top dollar
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here or we're not going to be competitive in the
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nil space. So it feels like Ohio is willing to
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be competitive here for Easter. Even as they already have
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Jamir Brown and they're in on some other big fish
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at wide receiver.
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Yeah, I mean, I think we are all very much
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trying to figure out Cortez Hankton and what his tactics are.
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You know, we've gotten so used to Ohio State being
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able to land every number one ranked wide receiver in
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the country for how many years now? And you know
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they have a dang good one committed right now with
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Jamir Brown. But I think some people have been kind
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of curious about his strategy. He's offering some lower rated guys.
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Who knows how hard they're pushing. But the Easter visit
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was a big one. But I worry about him being
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from Texas and the oil money that's down there in
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that kind of thing. I think I saw a quote
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from him coming off of the visit saying that Ohio
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State and Texas Tech are now kind of like neck
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and neck, and usually the team that you're rooting for
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coming out of the visit, you want them to be,
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you know, well ahead of the game. So that kind
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of makes me wonder, is he going to just stay
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closer to home? Is that is that oil money going
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to be too much to overcome, But this one just
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seems to pick I have picked up over the last couple
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of weeks, and I'm interested to see what what cort
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has Hanketon can accomplish because the jury is very much
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still out. You know, Jamy Brown's been committed long before
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he even got here, So we'll see, we'll see what
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he can do on the trail.
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Yeah, I don't envy Court has Hankeden and like, I'll
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reserve my judgment for for what he had, you know,
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what they signed, because ultimately, whatever whatever the look class
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looks like now, it doesn't really matter, you know, the
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next six months, it might as well be an eternity
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in terms of all the flipping that happens, all the
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craziness with all the deals that go on now. So
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but I don't envy his position because Ohio State fans
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and rightfully so, I'm not.
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This is not a shot at Ohio State fans. I
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think this is how it should be.
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They don't expect drop off at receiver recruiting and Brian
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Hartline was on like a five year heater, six year
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heater that just was unbelievable. But Ohio State fans are
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gonna sit here and they're gonna tell you, well, look
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at all the first round picks have come from Ohio
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State at wide receiver, not just under heartline. But you
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can go back, you can go back to the Chris
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Carters and Terry Glenn's and David Boston's, And why shouldn't
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Ohio State continue to land all these big name receivers.
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And so that's the bar he has to live up to.
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And so I don't envy his position, but he does.
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It feels like he needs one, doesn't it feel like
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just to kind of cool people off a little bit,
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calm people down a little bit.
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It feels like he needs a big commitment here this month.
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Yeah, it does feel like it, because when you look
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at some of the other guys, like the manshun Sales
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and guys like that, Ohio State doesn't seem to be
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the clear leader right now by any means. For those guys,
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I will say with Easter, Hankton does have kind of
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a long history with him just from his time LSU,
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So it's not like this is a brand.
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New recruit for him. But I agree he needs a win.
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And I don't know if there's any sort of final decision, well,
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the final decisions as we know, won't come until December.
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But I don't think anything is like on the horizon
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as far as happening sooner than later. But it would
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be very great for him if he could get a
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win and just kind of I don't want to say
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there's a lot of naysayers out there, but it's just
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he's it's it's yeah, I mean, it's he's He's trying
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to fill some shoes that are impossible to fill.
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So I'd like to see him get on the board
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with one.
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I think he's a guy who could one of the
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assistants right now could really use a really strong commitment
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this month. We'll see, you know, Benny Easter is a
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guy that you know, everyone else I think is the
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media space in the ohiost markets getting familiar with two.
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He does have that build of a lot of the guys.
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LSU's produced over the years.
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I mean, justin Jefferson's maybe a little b of an
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outlier is the kind of like the six three six
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four guy, but a lot of these, like star LSU
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receiver in recent history have been in a like six
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foot two hundred pound range. Jamar Chase, Odell Beckham and
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Benny Easter kind of is in that mold, so it
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makes sense that that would be a guy Hankdon continues
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to go after.
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And yeah, I think Niel is going to be big here.
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You do wonder, and Ohio State seems to think the
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interest here is very genuine, and I think it is too,
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because again, Easter is from the Houston area. He's from
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that part of the state, which is historically just as
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much Lisu territory as anything else. So you can understand
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the connection there, and you can understand Ohio State's history
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receiver and why this would be ultra appealing for Benny.
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And quite frankly, the depth chart is actually fairly good
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if you're a twenty twenty seven receiver in terms of
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trying to come in and play early. They've kind of
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kind of cleared the deck for those guys a little bit.
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So I think it's genuine, but you do wonder, like, Okay,
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to maximize that nil deal, there's got to be a
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second team. You can't you can't be bidding against yourself,
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you know what I mean when it comes to this stuff,
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So like, does there have to be a second and
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third team to to get Cody Campbell? To like, you know,
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open the pockets book up a little bit more like
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how does that? How does that impact this? You know,
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the geography things kind of interesting, but the end of
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the day, like Lubbock is five hundred miles from Humble, Texas,
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Like it's it's a different universe. So I don't think
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it's gonna be a geography issue as much as it's
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gonna be an nil path to the field. I think
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those are going to be the things that that go
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into this on top of, of course, yes, the relationship
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with the head coach and position coach.
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Yeah, I'm with you.
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I I I'm probably the least confident in Easter of
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the three guys that visited over the weekend, But that doesn't.
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Mean they can't get them.
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You know, if they went three for three, would I
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be shocked, Not really, I'd probably I'd be more shocked
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if they went, oh for three. I'd probably be a
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little more shocked if they went one for three. I
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think I think two is gonna end up being the number.
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I'm not gonna take the three player parlay, but I
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think they're probably get They got great chance getting to
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those guys. Let's get into who those other two guys
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are let's talk. David Gabriel George is the number one
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running back on Ohio States board for like the last
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two years. Really, this is a guy, and look they
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would have taken I'm not sitting here and saying, oh,
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they passed on Derek Cooper and Savi and Hyder. They
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didn't pass on those guys. But they also didn't go
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any further down their board to fill up a quota.
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They didn't go crazy with transfer type stuff to like clog.
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They have cleared the deck for David Gabriel George's which
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is something even in the transfer portal era that teams
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rarely do, especially with Ohio State. They very rarely say, well,
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we like this guy so much in the junior class
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that we're gonna be careful what we do in the
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senior class. Well, Hio State did that here. It's a gamble.
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I think it's less of a gamble in the portal
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era when you can like miss on a recruit and
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just go get you know, a guy out of the
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portal who's in year three and has already developed.
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But it's still a gamble. Andrew, I mean, what do
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you think of this? And you know, do you think
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that strategy will pay off here.
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So I was thinking the other day, I was trying
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to think of like the biggest running back targets Ohio
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State has had, and I kind of personally and it's
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weird to say this about a running back. Usually you
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would say this about like a left tackle or a
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defensive end. But I think he is clearly the biggest
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fish still out there on either side of the ball.
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You know.
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I think back to like Maurice Claret and like the
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prehistoric days and guys like that. But I mean, you
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don't usually see these types that are must get in
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the backfield like that, And I think he's the guy
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they're going to be willing to a spend up for.
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But he's also a guy that.
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Carlos Lachlan has been in on for for years, like
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you alluded to. So I think some people, I don't
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know if some people hope coming out of this weekend
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a couple of these visitors could have popped with a
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commitment or whatever. But I don't think this was ever
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even in the cards for this one. He has a
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July twenty second ceremony at his school scheduled already. He's
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visiting Knoxville this weekend, and that's that's the big one
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to watch. He's supposed to visit Georgia and Ole miss
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I kind of wonder if those will even happen. But
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this is this is the one, Like, you know, this
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is the one. There's like nobody else really out there.
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There's kid, there was a kid there out out of Alabama.
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They just committed Alabama. There's other there's other guys that
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are out there that you're kind of wondering are they
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even going to make trips to Columbus? And I think
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in a perfect world, maybe Ohio State got a strong
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vibe last weekend that that this is going to happen.
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I kind of think they've got that feeling.
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But he still has to make a trip to to
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Knoxville and to see is not lacking on the nil
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front either.
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So this is a big one.
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Yeah, I mentioned the other day, I don't think Ohio
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Ohio State coaching staff has loved a running back anywhere
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near this much since Jon Robinson. You know, sorry if
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that's PTSD there, but it just they they truly believe
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this kid is kind of a generational running back, Like
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they don't think there's one of him every year, and
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the nationally they think every he's maybe a once every five,
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six seven year type of running back prospect. They're clearly
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willing to do what it takes on the NIL front.
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Here. Culturally, though, this one's a little different.
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You know, his parents don't really speak English. Families originally Haitian,
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but you know, French, Canadian now and now he's in Tennessee.
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So like this is, this has been.
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All over the place.
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There's a lot of moving parts there in the family
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cultural stuff in Ohio States done really well with the
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family and in a world that's like dominated by NIL,
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this feels more like a little bit of an old
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school one of like win the family, win the recruitment,
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because he's not gonna he's gonna get life changing money
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probably wherever he goes, especially for for what his family
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would have considered life changing, you know when they when
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they moved from from Haiti uh generation or so ago.
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Ohio State has embraced the family culture that he has.
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His aunt and uncle go on pretty much every visit
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he goes on because they've kind of have to interpret
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for the parents. They they They're able to really be
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very very helpful in that regard in terms of not
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losing anything in translation on these on these trips, and
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so Ohio State's kind of embraced that entire It's not
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an entre I it's called an entourage because it's it's
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it needs to It's not like he he has this
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big entourage of people who are like, you know, in
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his pockets. It's it's his family and they need they
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need to be in communication with each other because of
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the language barriers. So Ohio State has really done a
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great job there. His family's really spoken highly of Ohio
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State over the past year.
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I think they're gonna get this done. We'll see.
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I don't think there's anything you know, we go back
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to like Bijon and you know, he essentially committed to
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Ohio State, told everyone he was going to Ohio State,
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and I think it was you know, Grandma had a
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meltdown and ended up in Texas. I don't think there's
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that type of like land mine out there for Ohio
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State where someone's gonna come in at the last minute
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and say no, I don't want you to do this,
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I want you to go to Tennessee.
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I want you to go to Georgia.
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I don't think any preconceived notions like that exist in
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his inner circle, So so I think Ohio State's in
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a great spot here. Yes, the Tennessee visit, you've got
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to survive that one. That's me a land mine as well.
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But I'm with I think they're going to get this kid,
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and I've actually I've felt that for a while now,
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and it just nothing has changed.
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The visit was a home.
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Run for him everything I was told. So we'll see
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on July twenty second. But you know, how are you
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feeling coming out of this?
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Yeah, I'm with you on that.
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One of the weekend visitors that we're talking about, I
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think I personally would put the most confidence in him
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eventually picking Ohio State on July twenty second. I do
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agree with your assessment that this does feel a little
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bit more old school than a lot of these recruitments
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we see nowadays. And I'm not going to pretend to
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know his relationship with the Tennessee staff, but I feel
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like there's no way that his relationship there is better
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than his relationship with Carlos Lachlan and Ryan Day.
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But I also know he's had several.
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Teammates over the last few years who are now playing
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for Tennessee, So there's also that. But I'm feeling good
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about this one, and I think he's one of the
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just based on his film alone, he's one of the
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better running back recruits I remember seeing over the last
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handful of years, maybe back to Jon as you alluded to,
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but I think they get this one done.
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Yeah, he's he's definitely a special talent. He's definitely a
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special talent. Yeah, things are looking good. They're good. You know,
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it's never done until it's done, but things are are
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on the right trajectory here. So that brings us to
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another guy who, you know, six months ago, I don't
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think would have been in anybody's macho hive state recruiting class.
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Just kind of shows you how quickly now things can
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go and guys can fall off the board, and guys
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can kind of come out of left field and.
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Become priorities, and.
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Just the way recruiting it's such a volatile thing today.
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It's always been volatile to an extent, but it's just
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it feels like it's way more volatile now than maybe
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it was ten years ago even And so it but
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you know, Marcus, I'm going to try and do this
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properly because I I can do it when I practice it,
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but then when I actually have.
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To say it, it's.
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Faka tou faka yeah, faka tou yes.
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That is.
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That is the big defensive lineman out of California. It's
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like six seven seventy five. Big visitor this weekend. Larry
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Johnson Full court Press, Ryan Day Full court Press, Matt
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Patricia Full court Press. Again another one. I'm told the
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visit went very well. Another one. Ohio State has seemingly
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steadily built some momentum maybe the last couple months. Where
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do you see this one? What are you what's kind
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of your gut feeling right now with Marcus?
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So, I remember, like two to four months ago, I
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was barely following this recruitment, but I remember seeing posts
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on Twitter x like every week about coming out of
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the Notre Dame visit the Irish, now hold the lead,
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coming out of the Oregon visit the Ducks. Now we're
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the frontrunners, And it seemed like every week. And I
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knew Ohio State was kind of being mentioned, but I
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just never thought it was for real. And now it
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seems like for the last six weeks, maybe two months,
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that Ohio State's sort of been the consistent leader, and
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I was surprised to hear that. I do wonder how
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much stock we should put into these quotes they give
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to writers that interview them all the time and ask
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them these questions.
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You know, that's a whole nother story.
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But it feels like Ohio State isn't a great spot
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right now. This is one that I think people did
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sort of hope might end things this weekend, just because
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he's kind of been a little bit volatile. But then
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I saw he went to Georgia, like on Sunday, coming
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off of a visit, so there was there was clearly
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another trip already set up. But yeah, interesting size, like
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if he's going to play on the interior and he's
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six seven, but he's just a damn good defensive lineman,
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and that's what that's what Larry Johnson likes. He's at Georgia.
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I don't think the Georgia's side feels very optimistic. I
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think Notre Dame's all already loaded up on the defensive line.
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But I do think that Oregon visit looms large for
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when that comes here in a couple of weeks, but
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it seems like Larry Johnson's going to get this one done.
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Not like a slam dunk at this point, but it
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seems like it's on the verge.
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Yeah, I'm I'm kind of like I said to me,
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Ohio State leads today.
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Now what will that mean in three weeks, We'll see.
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I'm with you, I don't I'm not super concerned about
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the Georgia visit from Ohio State's end. Oregon's interesting for
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multiple reasons. They have done good things with players of
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his size at that want to play defensive end. Certainly
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the NIL component there. They're they're crazy competitive with nil.
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They've had a great program over the years. Dan Lanning
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is a defensive head coach, So there are some things
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there that I think our land mines. What I've kind
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of been told though coming out of the weekend is
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Ohio State feels really good, but they they're a little uneasy.
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I guess about the Notre Dame visit. At the very end,
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Notre Dame is supposed to get the last.
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Crack, and I was a little taken back as well. Andrew.
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I thought maybe Oregon would be the one that's like
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makes them the most nervous, just because there's there's been
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some history there of like they've lost some guys like
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this to Oregon, you know, and whether it's been nil
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or geography or whatever it's been over the years.
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But it feels like even with Notre.
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Dame having this this defensive line class putinggethers, it still
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feels like Ohio State's like, let's watch and see how
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that Notre Dame thing goes at the very end. But
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I think Oregon's a threat as well here, So I
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think it's kind of a three teamer at this point.
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But I do like where Ohio State stands today, and
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now I think they's kind of got to hold on
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to their lead.
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So it's it's.
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They've got like, to me, they've got like a one
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or two shot lead going on in the back nine
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on Sunday. It's like, so it's a lead, but you know,
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you can you can run that lead down, you know,
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without without too much trouble. It's not a it's not
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an insurmountable lead by any stretch for those other programs.
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Right, And the real question is how can he possibly
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say no to the J T. Twoey Maloau Airport celebration
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that they that they hit him with when he when
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he arrived in Columbus. So, I mean, they've got a
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pretty good history of wrapping those up even though it's
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only happened once. So hopefully this one ends up the same.
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And Oregon was involved there too, so similar.
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Yeah, I was I was thinking that as well.
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When I saw that stuff on social media, I was like, gosh,
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this is like this is kind of jtuh two point
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zero here, but you know, to this to Marcus' ability
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as a player, I'm just I'm fascinated by him and
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like I've heard some people say, well what is he
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It's like he's a defensive lineman, Like this.
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Isn't this, this isn't nineteen ninety five anymore.
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Where it's like you've got your week side end, your
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strong sight end, your three tech, and your wanted like
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if Ohio State and appears it appears that they do, They've
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done a little more of that.
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They've done a little more of this last year. For sure.
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Matt Patrist is probably going to continue to doing a
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little bit more of this. If you want to have
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mult if you want to be multiple upfront defensively on
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your on your fence front. You have to have guys
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like this kid. You have to have big, athletic defensive
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linemen that you can move left, right, whatever. You can
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play them a little bit on the outside. You can
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play him as a three tech. You can even play
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him as a nose and in past rushing situations like
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there are so few guys who.
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Actually can do that.
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Uh, there's not a lot of guys that you can
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just you know, oh well put him inside on this down,
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We'll put him outside on that down. It's it takes
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a unique build, it takes a unique skill set. I
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think he's one of those rare guys that you can
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do that with.
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And so again, if well.
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Hia wants to get a little bit more multiple, a
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little bit more variety with how their fronts look, I
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think these are the types of players you're gonna have
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to land if you want to do that.
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Yeah, just the measurables are I mean, they're great, but
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they're also a little strange because it's like, where does
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he fit?
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But like you said, he's a defensive lineman.
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I remember, however, many years ago, when they were recruiting
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that Doug Worthington kid out of New York or wherever
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he was from, and he was like six seven or six',
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eight AND i mean he had a good.
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He had a good, career so it'll work.
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Out, yeah there's been guys like.
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THAT i MEAN i always think of Like John henderson At,
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tennessee who was like a top five or ten PICK
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i think by The jaguars.
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When he came.
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Out, like there's been some guys who've been able to do.
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That and, yeah is he a guy maybe in like
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a short yardage that you that you may worry, about
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like leverage and things like that, Inside, yeah maybe he's
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not your short yardage interior. Guy but like in past rushing,
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SITUATIONS i, mean if your quarterback like your best, friend
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and a lot of these like third and medium third
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and shorts or there's like shallow crossers and stuff like,
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that if you've got a six seven guy with length
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in the middle put his hands up getting in the quarterback's.
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FACE i mean, quarterback any quarterback will tell you they
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would rather get pressured from the speed guys on the
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outside than have some six or five guy with length
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getting pushed up into their.
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Face so he's. Intrigued he's very interesting to.
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ME i really like him and like his, Upside so we'll.
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See LIKE i, SAID i Think Ohio, STATE i think
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two out of three maybe is a good expectation. Here
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if it's less than, That i'd be a little, surprised
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maybe a little. Disappointed if if you're An Ohio state,
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fan if it's three out of, three like, look you're
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you're you're doing cartwheels in the office and everything. Else
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so BUT i Think Ohio stats have done a really
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good job this weekend with these, guys AND i think
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they're in good shape to uh to land at least
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two of them with you know, again not the possibility
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maybe of getting all. Three so stay tuned and we'll
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see if that all that actually. Transpires will keep you
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guys updated on where those things are, going if there's,
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changes if there's new, information we'll be sure to share
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you have an already great time to do it with
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all the recruiting stuff this month and then Big con
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media days will be here and none seasons, here so
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like it's it's it's about that. Time so andrew any
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parting thoughts. Here appreciate you jumping on with me and
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kind of talking about three of the biggest targets right
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now for the.
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Bluckuys, no no parting. Thoughts, really it's just fascinating to watch.
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This you, know there's not doesn't seem like these visit
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weekends are loaded with dozens of guys or anything like that.
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Anymore and maybe it's a bit of a change in,
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strategy BUT.
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it's a clear change of like let's take the big
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swings and let's kind of pay the premiums that those
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are going to, cost and let's fill in the other
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gaps with the portal instead of plan be. Recruits that's
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what it feels like to me they're. Doing and so
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you may not see high school classes as big as
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they used to, be AND i think that's going to
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be by. DESIGN i think they're gonna, say let's maximize
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the amount of dollars we can spend per player from
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the high school, ranks because if they don't, play they.
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Transfer like if there are guys Who i'm, like, man
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he didn't play his first year and he, transferred and
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no one in the mine thought that kid was gonna
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play his first. Year he's already, Transferring so, like you
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have to get guys who are gonna you have to
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you have to pay, them and you got to play.
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Them so if you're not gonna do, that it's almost
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it's almost a waste of energy at this point with
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the way this unchecked free agency is now basically in
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college football every. Year so appreciate everyone watching and. Listening
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we'll be back back to with another. One we got
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another situation we're going to talk about on a second
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episode for. Tomorrow so thanks again everyone for your support
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and we'll talk to you again soon
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Hello everyone, Welcome to the Skull Session recruiting podcast, brought
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to by Buckeye Hollow dot Com. I am Mark Givler,
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joined by Andrew Ellis. This evening, Ohio State has wrapped
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up its first official visit weekend of the June March
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to the twenty twenty seven recruiting class. June has become
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just an enormous month in recruiting. You no longer see
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that wave of December November officials like you used to see.
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There will still be some, of course, I'm sure, but
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June has kind of become the marquee month for schools
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trying to land commitments and guys trying to get their
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decisions in before their senior seasons begins. So a lot's
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going to be happening this month on the recruiting trail
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for the buck Eyes. Their first visit weekend was a
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smaller group, but I think maybe the most important group
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they're going to have this month, certainly one of the
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most important, certainly among the one or two most important weekends.
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So three five star prospects on campus based on different rankings,
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but all three of the players who are not currently
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committed to Ohio State were or ranked five stars by
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either one of the major services. Andrew, let's start. Let's
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start with Benny Easter because everyone talks, everyone's talking about
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the other two guy. We're gonna give Benny Easter the
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first crack because everyone's obsessed with the other two guys.
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But Benny Easter is a.
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Guy who's really come on lately in terms of the
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interest from Ohio State, his interest in Ohio State committed
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to Texas Tech early. We know the deal when you're
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recruiting against Texas Tech that it's no secret. Cody Campbell
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doesn't hide it from anybody. They're billionaire booster. Texas Tech
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is here to spend big money to be competitive in
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college football. It's paid off for them actually so far.
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They had a great season last year. Who knows how
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the Sowarsby thing's gonna impact them this year, but the
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rest of the roster looks pretty darn good. So you know,
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if you're gonna battle Texas Tech, you can't go into it.
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You know, well, we're not going to spend top dollar
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here or we're not going to be competitive in the
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nil space. So it feels like Ohio is willing to
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be competitive here for Easter. Even as they already have
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Jamir Brown and they're in on some other big fish
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at wide receiver.
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trying to figure out Cortez Hankton and what his tactics are.
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You know, we've gotten so used to Ohio State being
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able to land every number one ranked wide receiver in
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the country for how many years now? And you know
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they have a dang good one committed right now with
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Jamir Brown. But I think some people have been kind
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of curious about his strategy. He's offering some lower rated guys.
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was a big one. But I worry about him being
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from Texas and the oil money that's down there in
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that kind of thing. I think I saw a quote
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from him coming off of the visit saying that Ohio
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State and Texas Tech are now kind of like neck
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and neck, and usually the team that you're rooting for
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coming out of the visit, you want them to be,
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you know, well ahead of the game. So that kind
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of makes me wonder, is he going to just stay
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closer to home? Is that is that oil money going
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to be too much to overcome, But this one just
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seems to pick I have picked up over the last couple
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of weeks, and I'm interested to see what what cort
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has Hanketon can accomplish because the jury is very much
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still out. You know, Jamy Brown's been committed long before
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he even got here, So we'll see, we'll see what
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he can do on the trail.
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Yeah, I don't envy Court has Hankeden and like, I'll
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reserve my judgment for for what he had, you know,
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what they signed, because ultimately, whatever whatever the look class
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looks like now, it doesn't really matter, you know, the
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next six months, it might as well be an eternity
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in terms of all the flipping that happens, all the
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craziness with all the deals that go on now. So
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but I don't envy his position because Ohio State fans
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and rightfully so, I'm not.
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This is not a shot at Ohio State fans. I
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think this is how it should be.
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They don't expect drop off at receiver recruiting and Brian
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heater that just was unbelievable. But Ohio State fans are
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gonna sit here and they're gonna tell you, well, look
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at all the first round picks have come from Ohio
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State at wide receiver, not just under heartline. But you
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can go back, you can go back to the Chris
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Carters and Terry Glenn's and David Boston's, And why shouldn't
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Ohio State continue to land all these big name receivers.
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just to kind of cool people off a little bit,
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calm people down a little bit.
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It feels like he needs a big commitment here this month.
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at some of the other guys, like the manshun Sales
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and guys like that, Ohio State doesn't seem to be
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the clear leader right now by any means. For those guys,
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a long history with him just from his time LSU,
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the final decisions as we know, won't come until December.
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as far as happening sooner than later. But it would
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be very great for him if he could get a
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win and just kind of I don't want to say
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there's a lot of naysayers out there, but it's just
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he's it's it's yeah, I mean, it's he's He's trying
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to fill some shoes that are impossible to fill.
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I think he's a guy who could one of the
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assistants right now could really use a really strong commitment
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this month. We'll see, you know, Benny Easter is a
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guy that you know, everyone else I think is the
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media space in the ohiost markets getting familiar with two.
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He does have that build of a lot of the guys.
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LSU's produced over the years.
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outlier is the kind of like the six three six
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four guy, but a lot of these, like star LSU
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receiver in recent history have been in a like six
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foot two hundred pound range. Jamar Chase, Odell Beckham and
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Benny Easter kind of is in that mold, so it
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makes sense that that would be a guy Hankdon continues
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to go after.
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You do wonder, and Ohio State seems to think the
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interest here is very genuine, and I think it is too,
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because again, Easter is from the Houston area. He's from
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that part of the state, which is historically just as
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much Lisu territory as anything else. So you can understand
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the connection there, and you can understand Ohio State's history
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receiver and why this would be ultra appealing for Benny.
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if you're a twenty twenty seven receiver in terms of
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trying to come in and play early. They've kind of
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kind of cleared the deck for those guys a little bit.
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to maximize that nil deal, there's got to be a
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second team. You can't you can't be bidding against yourself,
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you know what I mean when it comes to this stuff,
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So like, does there have to be a second and
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third team to to get Cody Campbell? To like, you know,
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open the pockets book up a little bit more like
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how does that? How does that impact this? You know,
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the geography things kind of interesting, but the end of
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the day, like Lubbock is five hundred miles from Humble, Texas,
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Like it's it's a different universe. So I don't think
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it's gonna be a geography issue as much as it's
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gonna be an nil path to the field. I think
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those are going to be the things that that go
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into this on top of, of course, yes, the relationship
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with the head coach and position coach.
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I I I'm probably the least confident in Easter of
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the three guys that visited over the weekend, But that doesn't.
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Mean they can't get them.
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You know, if they went three for three, would I
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be shocked, Not really, I'd probably I'd be more shocked
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if they went, oh for three. I'd probably be a
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little more shocked if they went one for three. I
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think I think two is gonna end up being the number.
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I'm not gonna take the three player parlay, but I
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think they're probably get They got great chance getting to
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those guys. Let's get into who those other two guys
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are let's talk. David Gabriel George is the number one
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running back on Ohio States board for like the last
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two years. Really, this is a guy, and look they
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would have taken I'm not sitting here and saying, oh,
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they passed on Derek Cooper and Savi and Hyder. They
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didn't pass on those guys. But they also didn't go
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any further down their board to fill up a quota.
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They didn't go crazy with transfer type stuff to like clog.
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They have cleared the deck for David Gabriel George's which
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is something even in the transfer portal era that teams
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rarely do, especially with Ohio State. They very rarely say, well,
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we like this guy so much in the junior class
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that we're gonna be careful what we do in the
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senior class. Well, Hio State did that here. It's a gamble.
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I think it's less of a gamble in the portal
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era when you can like miss on a recruit and
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just go get you know, a guy out of the
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portal who's in year three and has already developed.
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But it's still a gamble. Andrew, I mean, what do
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you think of this? And you know, do you think
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that strategy will pay off here.
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So I was thinking the other day, I was trying
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to think of like the biggest running back targets Ohio
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State has had, and I kind of personally and it's
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weird to say this about a running back. Usually you
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would say this about like a left tackle or a
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defensive end. But I think he is clearly the biggest
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fish still out there on either side of the ball.
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I think back to like Maurice Claret and like the
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prehistoric days and guys like that. But I mean, you
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don't usually see these types that are must get in
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the backfield like that, And I think he's the guy
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they're going to be willing to a spend up for.
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But he's also a guy that.
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Carlos Lachlan has been in on for for years, like
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you alluded to. So I think some people, I don't
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know if some people hope coming out of this weekend
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a couple of these visitors could have popped with a
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commitment or whatever. But I don't think this was ever
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even in the cards for this one. He has a
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July twenty second ceremony at his school scheduled already. He's
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visiting Knoxville this weekend, and that's that's the big one
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to watch. He's supposed to visit Georgia and Ole miss
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I kind of wonder if those will even happen. But
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this is this is the one, Like, you know, this
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is the one. There's like nobody else really out there.
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There's kid, there was a kid there out out of Alabama.
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They just committed Alabama. There's other there's other guys that
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are out there that you're kind of wondering are they
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even going to make trips to Columbus? And I think
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in a perfect world, maybe Ohio State got a strong
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vibe last weekend that that this is going to happen.
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I kind of think they've got that feeling.
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But he still has to make a trip to to
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Knoxville and to see is not lacking on the nil
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front either.
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So this is a big one.
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Yeah, I mentioned the other day, I don't think Ohio
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Ohio State coaching staff has loved a running back anywhere
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near this much since Jon Robinson. You know, sorry if
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that's PTSD there, but it just they they truly believe
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this kid is kind of a generational running back, Like
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they don't think there's one of him every year, and
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the nationally they think every he's maybe a once every five,
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six seven year type of running back prospect. They're clearly
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willing to do what it takes on the NIL front.
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Here. Culturally, though, this one's a little different.
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You know, his parents don't really speak English. Families originally Haitian,
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but you know, French, Canadian now and now he's in Tennessee.
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So like this is, this has been.
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All over the place.
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There's a lot of moving parts there in the family
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cultural stuff in Ohio States done really well with the
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family and in a world that's like dominated by NIL,
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this feels more like a little bit of an old
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school one of like win the family, win the recruitment,
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because he's not gonna he's gonna get life changing money
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probably wherever he goes, especially for for what his family
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would have considered life changing, you know when they when
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they moved from from Haiti uh generation or so ago.
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But it's it's one of those things where I think
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Ohio State has embraced the family culture that he has.
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His aunt and uncle go on pretty much every visit
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he goes on because they've kind of have to interpret
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for the parents. They they They're able to really be
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very very helpful in that regard in terms of not
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losing anything in translation on these on these trips, and
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so Ohio State's kind of embraced that entire It's not
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an entre I it's called an entourage because it's it's
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it needs to It's not like he he has this
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big entourage of people who are like, you know, in
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his pockets. It's it's his family and they need they
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need to be in communication with each other because of
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the language barriers. So Ohio State has really done a
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great job there. His family's really spoken highly of Ohio
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State over the past year.
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I think they're gonna get this done. We'll see.
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I don't think there's anything you know, we go back
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to like Bijon and you know, he essentially committed to
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Ohio State, told everyone he was going to Ohio State,
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and I think it was you know, Grandma had a
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meltdown and ended up in Texas. I don't think there's
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that type of like land mine out there for Ohio
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State where someone's gonna come in at the last minute
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and say no, I don't want you to do this,
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I want you to go to Tennessee.
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I want you to go to Georgia.
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I don't think any preconceived notions like that exist in
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his inner circle, So so I think Ohio State's in
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a great spot here. Yes, the Tennessee visit, you've got
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to survive that one. That's me a land mine as well.
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But I'm with I think they're going to get this kid,
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and I've actually I've felt that for a while now,
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and it just nothing has changed.
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The visit was a home.
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Run for him everything I was told. So we'll see
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on July twenty second. But you know, how are you
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feeling coming out of this?
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Yeah, I'm with you on that.
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One of the weekend visitors that we're talking about, I
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think I personally would put the most confidence in him
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eventually picking Ohio State on July twenty second. I do
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agree with your assessment that this does feel a little
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bit more old school than a lot of these recruitments
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we see nowadays. And I'm not going to pretend to
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know his relationship with the Tennessee staff, but I feel
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like there's no way that his relationship there is better
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than his relationship with Carlos Lachlan and Ryan Day.
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But I also know he's had several.
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Teammates over the last few years who are now playing
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for Tennessee, So there's also that. But I'm feeling good
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about this one, and I think he's one of the
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just based on his film alone, he's one of the
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better running back recruits I remember seeing over the last
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handful of years, maybe back to Jon as you alluded to,
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but I think they get this one done.
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Yeah, he's he's definitely a special talent. He's definitely a
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special talent. Yeah, things are looking good. They're good. You know,
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it's never done until it's done, but things are are
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on the right trajectory here. So that brings us to
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another guy who, you know, six months ago, I don't
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think would have been in anybody's macho hive state recruiting class.
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Just kind of shows you how quickly now things can
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go and guys can fall off the board, and guys
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can kind of come out of left field and.
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Become priorities, and.
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Just the way recruiting it's such a volatile thing today.
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It's always been volatile to an extent, but it's just
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it feels like it's way more volatile now than maybe
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it was ten years ago even And so it but
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you know, Marcus, I'm going to try and do this
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properly because I I can do it when I practice it,
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but then when I actually have.
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To say it, it's.
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Faka tou faka yeah, faka tou yes.
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That is.
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That is the big defensive lineman out of California. It's
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like six seven seventy five. Big visitor this weekend. Larry
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Johnson Full court Press, Ryan Day Full court Press, Matt
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Patricia Full court Press. Again another one. I'm told the
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visit went very well. Another one. Ohio State has seemingly
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steadily built some momentum maybe the last couple months. Where
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do you see this one? What are you what's kind
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of your gut feeling right now with Marcus?
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So, I remember, like two to four months ago, I
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was barely following this recruitment, but I remember seeing posts
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on Twitter x like every week about coming out of
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the Notre Dame visit the Irish, now hold the lead,
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coming out of the Oregon visit the Ducks. Now we're
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the frontrunners, And it seemed like every week. And I
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knew Ohio State was kind of being mentioned, but I
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just never thought it was for real. And now it
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seems like for the last six weeks, maybe two months,
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that Ohio State's sort of been the consistent leader, and
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I was surprised to hear that. I do wonder how
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much stock we should put into these quotes they give
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to writers that interview them all the time and ask
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them these questions.
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You know, that's a whole nother story.
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But it feels like Ohio State isn't a great spot
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right now. This is one that I think people did
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sort of hope might end things this weekend, just because
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he's kind of been a little bit volatile. But then
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I saw he went to Georgia, like on Sunday, coming
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off of a visit, so there was there was clearly
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another trip already set up. But yeah, interesting size, like
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if he's going to play on the interior and he's
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six seven, but he's just a damn good defensive lineman,
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and that's what that's what Larry Johnson likes. He's at Georgia.
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I don't think the Georgia's side feels very optimistic. I
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think Notre Dame's all already loaded up on the defensive line.
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But I do think that Oregon visit looms large for
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when that comes here in a couple of weeks, but
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it seems like Larry Johnson's going to get this one done.
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Not like a slam dunk at this point, but it
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seems like it's on the verge.
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Yeah, I'm I'm kind of like I said to me,
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Ohio State leads today.
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Now what will that mean in three weeks, We'll see.
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I'm with you, I don't I'm not super concerned about
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the Georgia visit from Ohio State's end. Oregon's interesting for
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multiple reasons. They have done good things with players of
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his size at that want to play defensive end. Certainly
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the NIL component there. They're they're crazy competitive with nil.
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They've had a great program over the years. Dan Lanning
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is a defensive head coach, So there are some things
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there that I think our land mines. What I've kind
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of been told though coming out of the weekend is
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Ohio State feels really good, but they they're a little uneasy.
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I guess about the Notre Dame visit. At the very end,
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Notre Dame is supposed to get the last.
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Crack, and I was a little taken back as well. Andrew.
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I thought maybe Oregon would be the one that's like
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makes them the most nervous, just because there's there's been
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some history there of like they've lost some guys like
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this to Oregon, you know, and whether it's been nil
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or geography or whatever it's been over the years.
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But it feels like even with Notre.
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Dame having this this defensive line class putinggethers, it still
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feels like Ohio State's like, let's watch and see how
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that Notre Dame thing goes at the very end. But
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I think Oregon's a threat as well here, So I
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think it's kind of a three teamer at this point.
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But I do like where Ohio State stands today, and
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now I think they's kind of got to hold on
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to their lead.
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So it's it's.
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They've got like, to me, they've got like a one
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or two shot lead going on in the back nine
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on Sunday. It's like, so it's a lead, but you know,
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you can you can run that lead down, you know,
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without without too much trouble. It's not a it's not
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an insurmountable lead by any stretch for those other programs.
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Right, And the real question is how can he possibly
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say no to the J T. Twoey Maloau Airport celebration
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that they that they hit him with when he when
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he arrived in Columbus. So, I mean, they've got a
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pretty good history of wrapping those up even though it's
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only happened once. So hopefully this one ends up the same.
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And Oregon was involved there too, so similar.
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Yeah, I was I was thinking that as well.
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When I saw that stuff on social media, I was like, gosh,
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this is like this is kind of jtuh two point
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zero here, but you know, to this to Marcus' ability
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as a player, I'm just I'm fascinated by him and
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like I've heard some people say, well what is he
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It's like he's a defensive lineman, Like this.
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Isn't this, this isn't nineteen ninety five anymore.
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Where it's like you've got your week side end, your
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strong sight end, your three tech, and your wanted like
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if Ohio State and appears it appears that they do, They've
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done a little more of that.
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They've done a little more of this last year. For sure.
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Matt Patrist is probably going to continue to doing a
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little bit more of this. If you want to have
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mult if you want to be multiple upfront defensively on
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your on your fence front. You have to have guys
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like this kid. You have to have big, athletic defensive
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linemen that you can move left, right, whatever. You can
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play them a little bit on the outside. You can
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play him as a three tech. You can even play
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him as a nose and in past rushing situations like
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there are so few guys who.
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Actually can do that.
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Uh, there's not a lot of guys that you can
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just you know, oh well put him inside on this down,
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We'll put him outside on that down. It's it takes
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a unique build, it takes a unique skill set. I
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think he's one of those rare guys that you can
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do that with.
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And so again, if well.
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Hia wants to get a little bit more multiple, a
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little bit more variety with how their fronts look, I
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think these are the types of players you're gonna have
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to land if you want to do that.
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Yeah, just the measurables are I mean, they're great, but
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they're also a little strange because it's like, where does
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he fit?
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But like you said, he's a defensive lineman.
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I remember, however, many years ago, when they were recruiting
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that Doug Worthington kid out of New York or wherever
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he was from, and he was like six seven or six',
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eight AND i mean he had a good.
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He had a good, career so it'll work.
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Out, yeah there's been guys like.
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THAT i MEAN i always think of Like John henderson At,
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tennessee who was like a top five or ten PICK
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i think by The jaguars.
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When he came.
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Out, like there's been some guys who've been able to do.
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That and, yeah is he a guy maybe in like
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a short yardage that you that you may worry, about
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like leverage and things like that, Inside, yeah maybe he's
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not your short yardage interior. Guy but like in past rushing,
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SITUATIONS i, mean if your quarterback like your best, friend
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and a lot of these like third and medium third
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and shorts or there's like shallow crossers and stuff like,
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that if you've got a six seven guy with length
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in the middle put his hands up getting in the quarterback's.
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FACE i mean, quarterback any quarterback will tell you they
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would rather get pressured from the speed guys on the
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outside than have some six or five guy with length
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getting pushed up into their.
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Face so he's. Intrigued he's very interesting to.
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ME i really like him and like his, Upside so we'll.
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See LIKE i, SAID i Think Ohio, STATE i think
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two out of three maybe is a good expectation. Here
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if it's less than, That i'd be a little, surprised
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maybe a little. Disappointed if if you're An Ohio state,
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fan if it's three out of, three like, look you're
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you're you're doing cartwheels in the office and everything. Else
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so BUT i Think Ohio stats have done a really
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good job this weekend with these, guys AND i think
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they're in good shape to uh to land at least
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two of them with you know, again not the possibility
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maybe of getting all. Three so stay tuned and we'll
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see if that all that actually. Transpires will keep you
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guys updated on where those things are, going if there's,
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changes if there's new, information we'll be sure to share
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it here and as well as at bucket huddle dot
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com on The huddle premium message. Board sign up if
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you have an already great time to do it with
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all the recruiting stuff this month and then Big con
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media days will be here and none seasons, here so
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like it's it's it's about that. Time so andrew any
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parting thoughts. Here appreciate you jumping on with me and
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kind of talking about three of the biggest targets right
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now for the.
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Bluckuys, no no parting. Thoughts, really it's just fascinating to watch.
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This you, know there's not doesn't seem like these visit
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weekends are loaded with dozens of guys or anything like that.
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Anymore and maybe it's a bit of a change in,
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strategy BUT.
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I kind of like What Mark pantoni and those guys are,
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Doing so.
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YEAH i think it.
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IS i think it's a clear Of LIKE i think
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it's a clear change of like let's take the big
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swings and let's kind of pay the premiums that those
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are going to, cost and let's fill in the other
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gaps with the portal instead of plan be. Recruits that's
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what it feels like to me they're. Doing and so
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you may not see high school classes as big as
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they used to, be AND i think that's going to
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be by. DESIGN i think they're gonna, say let's maximize
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the amount of dollars we can spend per player from
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the high school, ranks because if they don't, play they.
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Transfer like if there are guys Who i'm, like, man
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he didn't play his first year and he, transferred and
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no one in the mine thought that kid was gonna
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play his first. Year he's already, Transferring so, like you
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have to get guys who are gonna you have to
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you have to pay, them and you got to play.
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Them so if you're not gonna do, that it's almost
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it's almost a waste of energy at this point with
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the way this unchecked free agency is now basically in
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college football every. Year so appreciate everyone watching and. Listening
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we'll be back back to with another. One we got
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another situation we're going to talk about on a second
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episode for. Tomorrow so thanks again everyone for your support
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and we'll talk to you again soon
