Chris Schnabel: Welcome to sketching up another episode of sketching up. I'm Chris. That is Matt. And today we are going to talk about regular show the lost tapes episode one. I know that there are couple episodes out right now as you're watching this, but we're only going to talk about episode one and then we can talk more about the rest of it later on. We're going to talk about the reboot of regular show coming back out. We're also going to talk a little bit about Lego Batman because I know you really want to talk about Lego Batman and we'll
Matt Tornetta: Yes.
Chris Schnabel: we'll let Matt do a little bit on dare or on Punisher as well. I'm gonna say daredevil, but Punisher as well. Make sure you follow us at sketching up podcasts on Instagram and Tik Tok. You can also subscribe to this podcast on YouTube. can subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts as well. Go do that five stars, like comment, all that stuff. Find us on social, whatever, whatever. ⁓ I didn't see the Punisher.
Matt Tornetta: Yes. Hahaha.
Chris Schnabel: movie, which you said is basically just an episode because it was like 40 minutes. But obviously I saw the CGI fall thing. I mean, it's everywhere.
Matt Tornetta: ⁓ yeah, that came out and you can see it. It's like, I understand which ⁓ hands down it's fun. It's like what Punisher should be, you know? It's like a ⁓ kind of a one-shot comic where it's just like one story and it's really Punisher-esque. Like it's just gore. It's just people getting killed left and right and it's Frank Castle going absolutely insane. Not in the sense of killing insane, but he's losing his mind ⁓ more and more and more. And this is him trying to figure out if he could just be a normal dude and not worry about what's going on around him. and the world he lives in pushes him back into that Punisher lifestyle and he just was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to be the Punisher and I'm going to just fucking kill people. And like his new look at the end of it is what he looks like in the new Spider-Man movie, which I like. I wasn't a huge... Like, I like the Punisher, but I'm not a huge fan of like when he wears the huge like trench coat, the black trench coat. Like I like when he's more that tactical gear and that's what he looks like in this. And it just looks a little more badass to me. And that's my own opinion, but likey, good.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, the the tactical or the trench coat like was, I believe in the comics at some point, but it really got big because Dolph Lundgren wore the trench coat with the skull and everything. And then that's just been the onscreen look forever since then.
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And no qualms about it. It's not like I absolutely hate it. I just like the tactical look a lot better. ⁓ Like you said, it was a show because majority of shows out there now are like 40 to 45 minutes long anyway. So I wouldn't have called it a movie. I would have just called it like a special episode. ⁓ I read a little more about it and it's supposed to be happening while what's happening in Daredevil Born Again Season 2, which I thought it was supposed to be between Daredevil Season 2 and Spider-Man.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, that's what they said, that this was going to be the in-between.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, but then I read something that they said, this is actually happening during season two, which I like, either way, I don't care because it's one of those things where you notice like... the inaccuracies of the MCU right now, which what they're trying to do, especially with these street level heroes, because like you're making a big deal about Daredevil, you're making a big deal about Spider-Man, and now you're making a big deal about Punisher, but right now, like the scene that you're set in in Punisher, he's in Little Sicily, and he murdered all like the big crime family, he killed them all.
Chris Schnabel: Mm-hmm.
Matt Tornetta: and it's like them coming back for revenge and like it's really lawless in this area of New York City and it's like okay if this is going on during Daredevil I know Daredevil has a lot on his plate with Kingpin but like I think you would have heard about this and then also Spider-Man like yeah Spider-Man's like in college and we don't really know what he's doing he's just like being the friendly in a
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, may have come up. We know he's street level at this point.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, like, and he's just being the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man that we like all really love. He's not fighting Thanos and shit and going through the multiverse. He's just in college, like being a college kid. And it's like, what are we doing here? There's like the whole, the whole like the background of what's going on in this area of the city. looks like war-torn Beirut, okay? Like burning cop cars, people just getting beat up on the street, like regular citizens just getting shit kicked out of them by like these little gangs that are everywhere. And you're like, no one in this city is doing anything about it. You know, we have multiple superheroes in here. Like, what are we doing? But then it's cool just to watch Punisher just be Punisher and just go all out. Like the fighting scenes, 10 out of 10. The way the camera angles are getting these fighting scenes, 10 out of 10. Yes, there is that CGI kind of weird thing where he lands on what I think is like the air conditioning unit is pretty bad, but.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. But they did say that the only thing that was CGI was his face. That's what they said, but it does not, looks like out of GTA.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, it looks so weird when he hits the actual piece and it kind of explodes a little bit under him. And you're like, I feel like it wouldn't have had that much effect if he fell on it and it would just kind of dent it pretty badly. So it was just a little exaggerated. then you're like, OK, yeah, that was definitely CGI. ⁓
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I said too. looks, it looks CGI, but they said it's not CGI, which I don't know if they're just lying or what, but.
Matt Tornetta: I don't know, but all in all, I would say go see it. Definitely watch it. It's a lot of fun. It's like adrenaline to the max through the whole thing. You don't get a break. And it sets up Punisher to look really cool in the new Spider-Man movie, which I'm excited to see him in that.
Chris Schnabel: Yep, and we already know he's there.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, and we already know he's there. So it's good. ⁓ But I do switch into DC. I do want to talk about the new LEGO Batman because we haven't talked about it at all. there has been multiple, like the first LEGO Batman was amazing and a lot of fun to play. But this one's just going through the whole catalog of movies and games that have been put out.
Chris Schnabel: Go ahead.
Matt Tornetta: earlier and it's just in this game. You have a million suits you can pick from, you go through, you know, the 19... The Batman with Michael Keaton, you go through the Dark Knight trilogy, you go through the Batman animated series, you go through... There is a little hinting at Batman Beyond, there's a little hinting about all these other Batman properties that are all bringing together into this open world Lego game, too. It's like the Arkham games where you can just fly around and like... and do missions and stuff like that on top of like probably the storyline that they have for it. And it just looks so much fun and I haven't bought a video game in a very long time. I think this is the one that's gonna make me buy it.
Chris Schnabel: This is the one that's going to bring you back. This is the one that's going to bring you back.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, it's going to bring me back into the fold of video gaming. So I'm excited about that. And then they leaked Rocksteady after their failure at the Suicide Squad game set out like a ⁓ press release saying that they're going back into Batman, going back into the Arkham games. And they're also doing them. So it got leaked that they may be doing Batman Beyond in the Arkham universe, which would be a lot of fun. And would make sense for the ending to Arkham Knight, Batman kind of leaves and is gone. And, you know, this would be an awesome way to do a time jump, see what Gotham's like, and to do it in a futuristic Gotham, a Neo Gotham, how they called it in Batman Beyond, and see, you know, an older Batman and a Terry McGinnis. That would be a lot of fun. would, that again, would bring me back into the gaming fold, and I would start playing games again and ignore all my other responsibilities.
Chris Schnabel: You hear that? If you want in the game again, you now know how to get them there. You now know how to get them there.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, I get it. I get it. it. You did it to me. I'm just...
Chris Schnabel: other things being revived regular show, which is weird because I thought this was going to be a weekly thing, but they're releasing it like every day for a week, which surprised me. That's yeah. So I think it said it's 10 episodes or I don't have it down in front of me, but every single day was a different episode for like whatever amount of episodes there were. And the first episode came out on Monday.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. ⁓ so that's what they're doing? Interesting. I can get it. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: ⁓ the transition from the, ⁓ the transition from the last, they played like the last episode before it and the transition from the last episode, which for everybody that hasn't seen it, well, don't know why you're listening to this. ⁓ pops is gone and he ends up in heaven and he puts a tape in to watch.
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm. Yeah
Chris Schnabel: the show, which is regular show, like the life that is there. They literally transition that into no ads or anything go right into the next one, which opens with him in the tapes. So like, it was a really cool transition or him in heaven. think it was the start. That was a really cool transition into that because like, it was just like a really nice callback from the last episode. And now it shows that it's a continuation in a way because the show is supposed to be them at the park.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: So for anybody that didn't watch the episode, all the tapes that Pops is watching are his memories. So he has this memory tape that breaks, then he needs to go get ⁓ a fixed, can't get a fixed. ends up going to wherever they store all the memories. He finds a box of memories and they're all ones he's never seen before. Hence the lost tapes. So I'm assuming each episode is gonna be one of those from the lost tapes.
Matt Tornetta: Yes. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: So it's going to be very regular show ask because it's going to be very weird and all over the place and no actual storyline throughout. And we should get about the same type of stuff we got. And I will say the regular show craziness was definitely on full display for that first episode.
Matt Tornetta: Exactly. ⁓ yeah, mean the hovercraft is hilarious. Like getting into a hovercraft and then the military thinking it was a UFO and shooting them down was great.
Chris Schnabel: The one thing, my one big, big opinion was there was a lot going on in that single episode. There was way too much. So much was going on.
Matt Tornetta: ⁓ in that single, yeah, so much, so much. I did watch it twice because I was like, did I miss something? Because there was just so much going on. You have pretty much like four different storylines going on in one episode.
Chris Schnabel: in one episode. Yeah. It was like almost like the first part of him or two retrieving the tapes was like its own episode. And then like the start of the episode was its own episode. And then like the start of the tape was its own. Like they were all like you said it's like four different things going on at once. And there was just so much going on a little too much going on for that first one.
Matt Tornetta: Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I think, you know, it's, I guess they're trying since it's coming out every day. They're going to try to get as much as they can in each episode. And it's surprising too, because it's like the episodes aren't that long, you know? So it's like...
Chris Schnabel: No, I think 22 minutes.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, so we're getting so much in such a short amount of time and I feel like today we're not used to that because like I said, like The Punisher, they call it a movie, but it was like a normal TV show. I watched the second to last episode of The Boys. That was like 40 something minutes. Like, and you have so much going on in that show and you have all this time to kind of like ease into each storyline. This was just like, let's... Let's sprint. We're doing a sprint in this episode. We're sprinting through everything.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Yeah. And they, and they really did. Like I said, the central plot of it, the thing was they had a new story while also trying to hit all the notes of the old one, which I thought they did a good job of for the most part. Like you go to the shack, you see the outside of the house, all the characters are there. They're doing a luau. And of course they need to get their task done so they can go to the luau and that's all they care about, which is central plot. Yeah.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, I think so, yeah. I love the no wheels rule. The no wheels rule is like, can I use my skateboard? And they're like, there's wheels on a skateboard.
Chris Schnabel: And then he has the thing, the, ⁓ the moving thing was like, what about this thing? And so yeah, everything that has wheels. And that's how we get to the hovercraft that they ended up making because they can't have wheels. So they figure out if they build a hovercraft, which you can get by having tops to pudding or something like that, which also like, it's funny because if they would have just brought in the 600 tops of pudding and gotten the hovercraft,
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Yep.
Chris Schnabel: I don't think it changes the storyline at all from them creating it by getting the booklet. Cause that did nothing. It did nothing. It didn't add like that person doesn't come back or them building. It doesn't do that. No, it was like, did nothing. It just then building it just ⁓ padded another five minutes in there.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it did nothing. But I... I love how the spokesperson guy was like, and you see before when they're getting all the pudding cups or whatever, and you see the advertisement, it's like, if you have this XML, you can get a hovercraft and then he hands them the proof face. He's like, as advertised, here's the blueprint to your hovercraft. And that brings me back to like...
Chris Schnabel: Yeah.
Matt Tornetta: anything that you would see like on like a cereal box or something and they're advertising something and normally if you ordered it it would come in like eight different pieces and you had to put it together. It didn't come all together.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't exactly what you were looking at or looking for or anything like that. And the advertising was like clearly misleading. Like I can't remember exactly what it said, but it was clearly misleading.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. It was super, it was super misleading. And I just, found that funny because like, I feel like that show, that show, in the regular show in the earlier seasons, it did a lot of stuff of bringing things that are ridiculous in our world that we just kind of put up with. Like that's just something we just put up with. Like things that are advertised when they're not advertised clearly enough. And like, we just have to deal with it. when we get something or we buy something and it's just not really what it was advertised as.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Well, that was the best part of the show was it was very, it was very much like low stakes things become world ending things. Like a game of pickup basketball becomes a game of God's versing each other or, know I mean? Like, and I think that's why a lot of people were disappointed with like that last season where they go into space because it was a little too, it's actually my same opinion I have of the show Dexter.
Matt Tornetta: Yay. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Chris Schnabel: where the first four seasons are unbelievable with season four's ⁓ ending being like probably one of the best twists in a prestige TV maybe ever. But then from that point on, it almost becomes a little too mythical rather than based in reality. yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, ⁓
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, like a cop being a murderer is like a little like not as believable. But when you really think about it, like at least it's realistic, right? At least it's like based in reality. Whereas when it goes on, like the newest thing they did, like resurrection or whatever I think it's called where
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. They've had so many spinoffs of that show or like continuations of that show. I feel like there's more.
Chris Schnabel: it's the only two only two. Well, you're right. No, you're right. They had the prelude one that wasn't Michael C. C. Hall, but they had the one where he goes like upstate New York, which was like, okay, I don't remember that something blood or something like that. But then there's one, the new one is supposed to be like a continuation of the whole thing. Like this is supposed to be it. Right. And ⁓ at first it's very, it's like based in reality a little bit.
Matt Tornetta: Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Chris Schnabel: but not really because did you see the new thing? Do you care if I spoil it at all? Have you seen the original series?
Matt Tornetta: No, go right ahead. I only saw like the... I've only seen the first two seasons of the original series. You can. I don't really care.
Chris Schnabel: Well, I'm not going to spoil the season four twist because I know you should go watch it. It's like unbelievably. And it you do not see it coming and it hits you like like crazy. Like it's you have to experience that yourself. But I will I will for the the the old like the whatever season, whatever you call that season eight or nine or the new spin off, whatever, whether in upstate New York. At the end of it, his son shoots him like kills him.
Matt Tornetta: Alright. Alright. Mm-hmm. ⁓
Chris Schnabel: But they come up with like because it was so cold and his heart slowed down, he didn't die, blah, blah, blah. He was found and he was not actually, he never died. That's like that's, that's mythical in its own dude. Dude was shot in the chest. What are we talking about here? Like, I don't care how cold it is. If it hit his heart, he was shot in the heart. Like you're not surviving now. I don't care how cold it is. I don't give a shit. I call you shot the heart.
Matt Tornetta: He was resurrected. Yeah, yeah. And left for dead. Yeah, no, no one survives that. No one survives that. This isn't...
Chris Schnabel: So, so that happens and, ⁓ but the, the plot of it is he ends up finding Harrison who gets into trouble himself because he kills somebody, obviously. ⁓ so he ends up going to find him to help him out and all this stuff happens along the way, but the big, big, big piece of it there is he finds this club of like all these murderers and they all get together under this one person that's just infatuated with murder and all this stuff.
Matt Tornetta: Mm. Yep.
Chris Schnabel: And it's like, that's just so, it's too much. You've gone too far. You've gone too far to the side. Like we need to, we need to narrow out a little bit. And that's, that's how I feel. Yeah. But that, I said, in the beginning, like, is it super realistic that there's a murderer that's on the police force? Probably not, but at least like it makes sense. Like if he's a blood spatter analyst and he knows how a scene should look and he knows how to clean up a scene.
Matt Tornetta: Right. Yeah. Yeah, especially with shows like that. Especially shows with that. It's like... No.
Chris Schnabel: and he knows how to cover his own tracks. Like that makes sense to me. But then you start talking about how like I'm hanging out in this room and this is this murderer that's really famous and this is this murder that's really famous. And then I guess this person this rich it's supposed to be this rich. They're one of the richest guys in New York that he brings them all in because he's infatuated with it all. And you're just getting too mythical at that point. Like this is no longer based in reality.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like there's no, there's no like con for serial killers. Like you don't bring them all together. And I feel like if you, if you watch stuff like on serial killers and like of like, you know, the famous ones, they always have documentaries on them. If you watch some of them, you know, they're like recluse people. Like they don't, like that part.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like it's, it's just too much. Yeah, for the most part, do not want to be, I mean, there's, there's exceptions, but for the most part, they do not want to be seen or heard.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, but that part of their life is secluded away. They don't want anybody to know that that's part of their life. They may be extroverts outside of that life, like their everyday life, but that singular part of their life, the murdering and gruesome murdering, they're not advertising that. No billionaire in the world is going to be like,
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. They don't talk to anybody. Yeah.
Matt Tornetta: I could get the numbers of all these serial killers and see if they'd come and talk to me about their killings. Like, that doesn't happen.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. And that's, that's, that's, that's where I lost me. mean, in the, in the later seasons, it loses me for the same reasons. Like more people are finding out the season seven arc is like, I honestly could spoil anything from five on for anybody because I don't care if anybody watches it. I do. I do like when they introduce Hannah McKay more than most do. I think she was like also a kill. So she like killed somebody as well.
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: But she becomes like the main love interest, but like their connection. I like, I like them coming together and stuff like that. But other than that, I mean, like there's one where like saves a victim and then like he goes on a spree with her and starts taking out all the people that kidnapped her. And then there's another one that the season seven church one is just, it has Edward James almost and Colin Hanks in it, which is, you know, two good actors, but the twist, the twist is okay.
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm. Ooh, very good. Mm-hmm. Yeah. ⁓ okay, cool, Yeah. ⁓ Jesus.
Chris Schnabel: ex-husband like just so weird. Like it's just like so like why would they write that in there? The whole from the beginning it does. It's not great. But then like are they going to have this chemistry like that? Because like first of all, ew. Second of all, they're literally like we're married in real life and then split. So like why are we trying to write these two together in the show? It's the whole season seven was trash or maybe that was six.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. I don't. I don't think any show except for like Law and Order SVU can really write like ancestral like dialogue. Like no one should really put that in there because no one's fishing for that. Like when we're turning on Dexter, I'm not looking to see, ⁓ his sister is definitely gonna bang him and I can't wait for that to happen. Like no one's waiting for that.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, no, no, no, no show should write that. No show should have incest. No one's looking for It's just, it's so weird. No, it's so weird. It's so weird. And they tried to write that as a plot. And then she finds out that who he is and it just becomes even worse.
Matt Tornetta: It's like, it's just, that's just like... Yeah! ⁓ does that sour the relationship? that, does that, does that, does that, yeah, that's, that's just like a red flag for her. Like, being my brother is not, is okay, but being a murderous brother, that turns me off right away. Yeah, that's a red flag for me. Got to move on. Yeah, law abiding citizens is okay.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Turns her off. Believe it or not. Murdering people. That's that's the last straw. That's the last straw. Incest is only good when it's like there are law abiding citizens. Then it's OK. Technically, I will say, technically speaking, Dexter was a was was not a biological brother. If you remember from the beginning, he was found at a crime scene. So technically they're not. But still, they grew up together. It's just not a
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, well, I'm adopted and if I had a sister, wouldn't, I would never think that. Yeah, I know. But if she found out I was a murderer.
Chris Schnabel: Not a good plot to write in there. you wouldn't be like trying to get with her. They wouldn't do that. And it wasn't playfully like how it's a playfully like how young Manny in modern family does it either. Right. Like it's playful. It's jokey like that. She was sitting with a therapist and go I think I love I think I love Dexter. It's like that's strange. That's strange. It's just too bad because season four was so good. Yeah. That's what I mean. Like
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's just not... yeah. Well, it's funny with Manny because he's a child. He's a child and he doesn't know. He doesn't know. But with Dexter and his sister, they're adults. They're consenting adults. Like, get out of here.
Chris Schnabel: How do you feel that modern family handled the kids as they grew up? Did you like what they did or did you dislike what they did? I do have an opinion, but I want to hear yours first.
Matt Tornetta: Okay, ⁓ that's actually a really good question because I think that's one of the best shows that was on TV.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, I enjoyed a lot too. watch all the time. It's Mary's sleep show. I enjoy the show a lot.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, that's it's our it's our like comfort show just to put on. ⁓ How they raise the kids.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, yeah. Not how they raised the kids, how they wrote the kids as adults.
Matt Tornetta: they wrote to kids. ⁓ I would think like I liked, ⁓ like obviously I liked Manny's story, like how they did Manny and how he grew up. I think it like it was a natural progression of his life and I think it went in the right direction.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. ⁓ think they, they, when he was young, the thing is with, with him and with, ⁓ why can't I think of the other son's name? ⁓ but with those two, they kind of like stereotype them and kept them there. But Manny becomes like, very like, like, how do I want to say this without saying it wrong?
Matt Tornetta: ⁓ really? ⁓ my God, I'm gonna blank on it too because you brought it up. ⁓ Luke. It's Luke.
Chris Schnabel: Luke, Luke, Luke just becomes dumb. He's just dumb. Like that's, that's his only trait is he's not smart. And they don't even do that classic. Like he aced the test, but he's the dumb one stroke. Like he's just dumb. And my, my favorite one is they write him to be really dumb as an adult. And then they have a scene where he's trying to get into college and they're like, come on UCLA. He wrote of as dumb for years. Are you talking about UCLA?
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no way.
Chris Schnabel: like, what are we talking about there? But, but Manny like kind of becomes a little pretentious. becomes very pretentious, but he also like, I just don't like how he's written in that way. Like he, he feels like everything's owed to him and he becomes kind of mean in a way. Like for, for example, ⁓ what's, what's Sherry, which was his girlfriend, wasn't really like the girl he was dating when they broke up. It was more like a possession of his that was taken from him because like,
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: like, I still mad and complaining months after it's over. Right? Like they broke up for months and then like, was it right for Luke to get with her? Probably not. But at that, you know, it's like, it's a Luke thing to do, but also like that you guys have been broken up like it. Yeah. So like, I didn't like how those were in
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's a Luke thing to do. Yeah, well I just see it as like Manny, I just see as Manny was always a dramatic character even as a child as they wrote him. Like he likes the drama, he likes Broadway, he likes all that stuff and so that just amplified as he became more and more as an adult. ⁓ My one, like I didn't really like how they wrote Lily, like how she grew up.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, that's that's a consensus take as well. A lot of people didn't like how she grew up. She was very, very one note.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, like I just like, why is she this? Yeah, it's like she's, she's barely in the later seasons and like whenever she is, she's just like very grumpy and it's just like, why, why are you super grumpy? ⁓ and then later in like Haley's life, I wish they were just like, the whole thing with her and Dylan, like that was just getting old. Like, why did she have to have a kid with Dylan? Like it's, makes sense that she would have a kid when she wasn't ready to have a kid because that's who she is. But with, yeah, but with Dylan, it was annoying because you had, Andy, Andy was like perfect for her and it should just stuck with Andy. Like, I don't know why they wrote that off.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Yeah, that was that was well done. That part was well done. Yeah. Yeah, I was confused why they went that direction as well, other than he just couldn't stay on the show. That would be my only guess.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, the only thing is, is yeah, is that in workaholics was like blowing up at that time.
Chris Schnabel: I think at that time, was it not over yet by the end of Modern Family? Was that show not over? I thought it was. I think they did run at the same time, but I think, I feel like Workaholics ended like when I was in college almost, if not just after.
Matt Tornetta: No, I don't think so. Let me see. I'm gonna see. ⁓ Yeah, it might have just ended, but 2009.
Chris Schnabel: But modern family ended like five, six years ago. Workaholics in 2009. Modern family didn't end in 09. It started in 09. Yeah. It ended in like 19 or something like that. Maybe, maybe later.
Matt Tornetta: It's... No, uh, it's... Oh no, did it start? No, it started in 2009. Yeah. Um... And Workaholics started in 2011.
Chris Schnabel: when did the workaholics end? Because it didn't go that long. It only went a couple of seasons. Modern family, think, is like 19 or something like that. 2020. I think I said five years ago. So six years ago. And the workaholics is what? Like 16, 17?
Matt Tornetta: I'm trying to... You mean modern family. 2020. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: I'm close.
Matt Tornetta: me see, let me see.
Chris Schnabel: I gotta be close. I'm just talking for no dead air. Just fill in dead air. I know, just saying. I keep saying I'm gonna be close. Yeah, so he's not working on workaholics at that point because that storyline is the last season, two seasons or something like that. But he did pitch perfect.
Matt Tornetta: I'm just trying to see... 2017, the last episode aired. Yeah, but he, what they were trying to do, yeah, he was doing Pitch Perfect and he was like in the middle of writing Workaholics. Like he wrote with the other two guys.
Chris Schnabel: No, but I'm saying workaholics was over by the time they got to that point. By the time he was, she was having a kid workaholics was over. He wasn't writing it anymore. It's done. But he was doing many other, he was very big at that point. Like, cause right, right as workaholics was ending, he went to do, ⁓ pitch perfect and pitch perfect too. Cause those are around that time.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah, didn't you get a spin-off? Yeah, and then he got his own spinoff for that too.
Chris Schnabel: I have no, that I don't know. I didn't follow that deeply.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, like the Buster, they did a movie about Buster, his character. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: So I could see that like, yeah, it makes sense that he was too busy to stick along. Cause I agree. I think that probably was the better direction to go. That's why I asked. Cause I feel like, I feel like you go either way, but I just didn't think the kids were really written that well at the end, except for
Matt Tornetta: Yeah Yeah, the only one that I that like really made sense to me was Alex. Like she just...
Chris Schnabel: That's what I gonna say except for Alex, because it just made sense. She had a good progression because of how they made her in the beginning. She was uptight and smart, and you kind of build her into that role later on, and it made sense.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, so it was really only that. I do miss that show. Maybe I'll watch that tonight, but... ⁓ But yeah, think it with like a lot of these shows, with like Modern Family, I'm glad they didn't do like a reboot. I'm glad they haven't done like a spinoff. I'm glad they just kind of left it as is. because like the last episode was really good, like it made sense. It was a nice closing for everybody and they were gone. And it was like ⁓ in Modern Family fashion, you know, like the show really, the last episode emulated the whole show.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, yeah, same, same. Not to, not to go too far off. I'll just, I'll wrap this up with a tight bow. A regular show. Check it out. It was good. I give it a thumbs up. Like I think, I think the first episode was good because I have another question for you that's not related to that. So, I, I, don't have much time, so I want to ask you this question though, because I thought about it the other day when we were going to, was it yesterday when we were going to record? I wanted to, did you watch Archer? Did that show just fall out of cultural completely?
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Yep, me too. Okay. Mm-hmm. Yes, all of it. Yes.
Chris Schnabel: Like no one talks about it ever anymore, but it was like one of the top shows for what? Five seasons, four seasons until ISIS had to be taken out because it was called ISIS. That show was like, it was me. It was memed all the time. Like those actors were everywhere. Like it just kind of fell. ⁓ constantly phrasing is from there. Like, like that, this, the reason I said that
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. People were quoting it left and right. Yep.
Chris Schnabel: is because when we have peanut butter, we give the spoons to the dogs to lick up and Mary gave a spoon to the dogs and left it on the ground. And my thought was, this is how we get ants. it may, I was like, does anyone even talk about Archer anymore? Like, did it just disappear? Like what happened? I don't even remember how it ended.
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't even remember how it ended either. like, I don't think I saw the last season. I don't think I ever watched the last season.
Chris Schnabel: I don't know if I've seen the ending of it. I don't think I've seen how it ended. I know there's one where it's like a dream. I think I saw that. I don't know. I tried to keep up with it when they moved away from ISIS and stuff like that. And I just don't remember. I remember nothing past. I think it's like season four when it's the Bob burgers cold open. That's the last season. I remember after that. I don't remember anything, but like I do remember that was like a really big show that just like disappeared. No one talks about it. You don't see photos of it. You don't see remember the show. You don't see nothing about it. It's just gone.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, I'm. Yeah, I feel like when it came out, was like, ⁓ it was so much different from like the Simpsons family guy, American Dad, where it's adult animation. They can say whatever they want. They could do ridiculous things, but this was a little more, I don't know, ⁓ not as like sitcom-y. Like it was, yeah, yeah.
Chris Schnabel: It was, it wasn't silly. was straightforward. There was no silliness to it. Like in the traditional sense, like, there was silliness to it, obviously, but there was no silliness in their traditional sense. Like it was very straightforward. Yeah. When I, when I was on radio back in college, we had a Sean Benjamin at the peak of the show on the show. And he said, there was no, you could not improvise. Everything had to be said exactly the way it was written.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, there was a lot of dry humor in it. And like...
Chris Schnabel: Like you couldn't go off of anything. You couldn't be like, what if this line here? No, exactly how it's written is how you're doing it. Exact dialect you're supposed to say is how you say it because everything that was written was part of the joke. So you couldn't go like some shows you can go off the top of your head and be like, ⁓ well, what about this line? Or you may say something and it makes the final cut. Not with this one. Like this was very much, this is it. You have to stick with this. So it just, it just blows my mind. That's nowhere, literally nowhere.
Matt Tornetta: Hmm Right. I know. It's just, yeah, that it's not talked about or it's not like brought up. Yeah, it's...
Chris Schnabel: not talked about, not memes, not brought up. There's not Instagram accounts being like, remember this show or nothing. It's just gone.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, I don't even see like clips on TikTok with them in it. It's like...
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. So I mean, like I see clips of everything on tick tock, literally every show that ever exists. I see these movies that I have no clue what's going on. I was like, I didn't know it was a movie. This came out in 1997. Never heard of it. It's on tick tock constantly, but archers nowhere to be found. It makes no sense. It was such a big show. It was so culturally. It was one like Emmys. It won Emmys. The cast was insane. I should tailor H John Benjamin.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it really doesn't. And the cast was insane. The voice casting. Jessica Walter. Like... ⁓
Chris Schnabel: Jessica Walter. And I think, think she passed before the show ended. I didn't see that either. I don't know how they dealt with that. Like I, yeah, I thought of a quote from it. And like I said, that was like one of the highest quoted shows, won a couple of Emmys, like won a ton of Annie's had a crazy voice. What was it? Aisha Taylor. What we say, Jessica Walter, H John Benjamin, Chris Parnell, like Judy Greer.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, she did, Yep. Judy Greer.
Chris Schnabel: like it had a really good voice cast. That's the main cast and it's just gone. It was just gone. That that that's all I had to say. I just wanted to see if you watched it. If you've like heard of anything in years, the show's so good. The first four seasons were excellent. I do too. Yeah. I remember that too on FX. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. I tried to keep up with it.
Matt Tornetta: I know Bruce Campbell, Fred Armisen was in it. Like, yeah, it's... ⁓ I freaking love that show. Like, I like was watching it on TV. Like, I was waiting for it to come on TV and was like, ⁓ Archer's on tonight. Yeah, Archer's on tonight. I gotta watch Archer.
Chris Schnabel: after like the first four seasons, but I just don't remember. I remember like there was one where they were like, uh, like in the snow, but not the one with the German girl. That's from the first four seasons. Everything after season four. I don't really remember. Like Christian Slater was in it at some point. I don't really remember it, but I just remember him being in it, but I don't remember the season whatsoever. You know what I mean? Like I think his name was Slater. I think I just named him Slater. Um, but yeah, nowhere to be found. So if you watched Archer, let us know because
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah, he was. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: so did we. Maybe we should just do an archer episode. We could just hit it. We could. We could hit the arch. I don't care about reviving it. Let's just revive the conversation. Let's just get the conversation about about it on here.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, maybe we, maybe, yeah, I think we need to revive it. Let's revive it and we're gonna do, we're gonna do Archer. Yeah, let's just talk about it. Let's, we're gonna, I'll get us a list of some of the most iconic episodes of the Archer. We're gonna watch them and then we're gonna talk about them and just, just go through it.
Chris Schnabel: I mean, I feel like off the top of my head, I can name a cut. Like I can't name the episodes, but there's the one where they get the new agent and he's actually just trying to steal the stuff from him. And they're in Miami. ⁓ he comes back later to like that. That one's an iconic episode. That's what I was going to, that when I said it's silly, like he has cancer, he's going on a rampage. Yeah. Cause cause the pills are wrong.
Matt Tornetta: Yep. The ⁓ one when he has cancer, when he gets breast cancer. he's yeah it's going on his rampage like that is one of my favorite episodes of all time.
Chris Schnabel: It's so good. It's so good. There's a lot of really weak. I mean, we go all day on this. There's a lot of really, really good ones.
Matt Tornetta: I mean, the episodes that have a Barry in it are hilarious. Those are just, it's always with Barry in it. Yeah, competing spies and then he turns into an android. That is, he works in Russia. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, those are always excellent. Those are always excellent. They're competing spies. It's just hilarious. Yeah. And then he works for Russia. Yeah. No, it's just so good. I'm going to have to go back and watch this. I wonder if it got buried because they were called ISIS. It might've, it might. No, was like, yeah, like I sure it was an organization at the time, but it things happened in between there, but
Matt Tornetta: Maybe. But like, you can't really blame them. Yeah, yeah.
Chris Schnabel: Anyway, yeah, if you watched Archer, let us know. Maybe we'll do an episode on Archer. Hit that whatever that demographic left is. We'll hit that demographic with Archer. Yeah, we're gonna put in the title and see who comes up. See who comes around.
Matt Tornetta: Yes, yes, we'll find them. We'll find them now. Yeah, see if it comes up. Yeah, see who's like, Archer.
Chris Schnabel: Oh, Archer. haven't heard of that in years. Anyway, thank you guys for watching. We really appreciate it. Make sure you follow us at sketching a podcast on Instagram, Twitter and Tik Tok. You can also subscribe to us on YouTube. Just hit the subscribe button at the bottom. Why don't you give us a like and a comment while you're there. Follow us on Spotify. Apple podcasts are your favorite podcasting platform as well. Hit us. Follow hit us with five stars. Hit us with a comment. All that good stuff. You can listen to old episodes as well. If you are in the Houston area, May 24th.
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm.
Chris Schnabel: I'm doing an interview Saturday. It's just, I'd be doing it from the floor or not. It's all it is. Or I'll be doing it in a different studio. Uh, but you can keep up with that on mad props pod, social media on Instagram or Twitter to see more about that.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah, that's all that is.
Chris Schnabel: But if you're in the area, Comic Palooza, May 24th, 415, I'll be doing a panel on the podcast stage. Come on out, say hi, and check out that panel as well. Any last, any final thoughts? Any final thoughts? Go watch Archer.
Matt Tornetta: Cool. Any final thoughts? Yeah, I'm just psyched to do an Archer episode. I want to do that now. Like, I'm going to just start watching Archer now. Yep. Yep. Thank you. Peace.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, yeah, that's, that's coming up. That's coming up. 100 % All right. Thank you, everybody. We'll see you later. It's been sketching up later.
Matt Tornetta: Yes.
Chris Schnabel: we'll let Matt do a little bit on dare or on Punisher as well. I'm gonna say daredevil, but Punisher as well. Make sure you follow us at sketching up podcasts on Instagram and Tik Tok. You can also subscribe to this podcast on YouTube. can subscribe to us wherever you get your podcasts as well. Go do that five stars, like comment, all that stuff. Find us on social, whatever, whatever. ⁓ I didn't see the Punisher.
Matt Tornetta: Yes. Hahaha.
Chris Schnabel: movie, which you said is basically just an episode because it was like 40 minutes. But obviously I saw the CGI fall thing. I mean, it's everywhere.
Matt Tornetta: ⁓ yeah, that came out and you can see it. It's like, I understand which ⁓ hands down it's fun. It's like what Punisher should be, you know? It's like a ⁓ kind of a one-shot comic where it's just like one story and it's really Punisher-esque. Like it's just gore. It's just people getting killed left and right and it's Frank Castle going absolutely insane. Not in the sense of killing insane, but he's losing his mind ⁓ more and more and more. And this is him trying to figure out if he could just be a normal dude and not worry about what's going on around him. and the world he lives in pushes him back into that Punisher lifestyle and he just was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to be the Punisher and I'm going to just fucking kill people. And like his new look at the end of it is what he looks like in the new Spider-Man movie, which I like. I wasn't a huge... Like, I like the Punisher, but I'm not a huge fan of like when he wears the huge like trench coat, the black trench coat. Like I like when he's more that tactical gear and that's what he looks like in this. And it just looks a little more badass to me. And that's my own opinion, but likey, good.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, the the tactical or the trench coat like was, I believe in the comics at some point, but it really got big because Dolph Lundgren wore the trench coat with the skull and everything. And then that's just been the onscreen look forever since then.
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And no qualms about it. It's not like I absolutely hate it. I just like the tactical look a lot better. ⁓ Like you said, it was a show because majority of shows out there now are like 40 to 45 minutes long anyway. So I wouldn't have called it a movie. I would have just called it like a special episode. ⁓ I read a little more about it and it's supposed to be happening while what's happening in Daredevil Born Again Season 2, which I thought it was supposed to be between Daredevil Season 2 and Spider-Man.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, that's what they said, that this was going to be the in-between.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, but then I read something that they said, this is actually happening during season two, which I like, either way, I don't care because it's one of those things where you notice like... the inaccuracies of the MCU right now, which what they're trying to do, especially with these street level heroes, because like you're making a big deal about Daredevil, you're making a big deal about Spider-Man, and now you're making a big deal about Punisher, but right now, like the scene that you're set in in Punisher, he's in Little Sicily, and he murdered all like the big crime family, he killed them all.
Chris Schnabel: Mm-hmm.
Matt Tornetta: and it's like them coming back for revenge and like it's really lawless in this area of New York City and it's like okay if this is going on during Daredevil I know Daredevil has a lot on his plate with Kingpin but like I think you would have heard about this and then also Spider-Man like yeah Spider-Man's like in college and we don't really know what he's doing he's just like being the friendly in a
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, may have come up. We know he's street level at this point.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, like, and he's just being the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man that we like all really love. He's not fighting Thanos and shit and going through the multiverse. He's just in college, like being a college kid. And it's like, what are we doing here? There's like the whole, the whole like the background of what's going on in this area of the city. looks like war-torn Beirut, okay? Like burning cop cars, people just getting beat up on the street, like regular citizens just getting shit kicked out of them by like these little gangs that are everywhere. And you're like, no one in this city is doing anything about it. You know, we have multiple superheroes in here. Like, what are we doing? But then it's cool just to watch Punisher just be Punisher and just go all out. Like the fighting scenes, 10 out of 10. The way the camera angles are getting these fighting scenes, 10 out of 10. Yes, there is that CGI kind of weird thing where he lands on what I think is like the air conditioning unit is pretty bad, but.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. But they did say that the only thing that was CGI was his face. That's what they said, but it does not, looks like out of GTA.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, it looks so weird when he hits the actual piece and it kind of explodes a little bit under him. And you're like, I feel like it wouldn't have had that much effect if he fell on it and it would just kind of dent it pretty badly. So it was just a little exaggerated. then you're like, OK, yeah, that was definitely CGI. ⁓
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I said too. looks, it looks CGI, but they said it's not CGI, which I don't know if they're just lying or what, but.
Matt Tornetta: I don't know, but all in all, I would say go see it. Definitely watch it. It's a lot of fun. It's like adrenaline to the max through the whole thing. You don't get a break. And it sets up Punisher to look really cool in the new Spider-Man movie, which I'm excited to see him in that.
Chris Schnabel: Yep, and we already know he's there.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, and we already know he's there. So it's good. ⁓ But I do switch into DC. I do want to talk about the new LEGO Batman because we haven't talked about it at all. there has been multiple, like the first LEGO Batman was amazing and a lot of fun to play. But this one's just going through the whole catalog of movies and games that have been put out.
Chris Schnabel: Go ahead.
Matt Tornetta: earlier and it's just in this game. You have a million suits you can pick from, you go through, you know, the 19... The Batman with Michael Keaton, you go through the Dark Knight trilogy, you go through the Batman animated series, you go through... There is a little hinting at Batman Beyond, there's a little hinting about all these other Batman properties that are all bringing together into this open world Lego game, too. It's like the Arkham games where you can just fly around and like... and do missions and stuff like that on top of like probably the storyline that they have for it. And it just looks so much fun and I haven't bought a video game in a very long time. I think this is the one that's gonna make me buy it.
Chris Schnabel: This is the one that's going to bring you back. This is the one that's going to bring you back.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, it's going to bring me back into the fold of video gaming. So I'm excited about that. And then they leaked Rocksteady after their failure at the Suicide Squad game set out like a ⁓ press release saying that they're going back into Batman, going back into the Arkham games. And they're also doing them. So it got leaked that they may be doing Batman Beyond in the Arkham universe, which would be a lot of fun. And would make sense for the ending to Arkham Knight, Batman kind of leaves and is gone. And, you know, this would be an awesome way to do a time jump, see what Gotham's like, and to do it in a futuristic Gotham, a Neo Gotham, how they called it in Batman Beyond, and see, you know, an older Batman and a Terry McGinnis. That would be a lot of fun. would, that again, would bring me back into the gaming fold, and I would start playing games again and ignore all my other responsibilities.
Chris Schnabel: You hear that? If you want in the game again, you now know how to get them there. You now know how to get them there.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, I get it. I get it. it. You did it to me. I'm just...
Chris Schnabel: other things being revived regular show, which is weird because I thought this was going to be a weekly thing, but they're releasing it like every day for a week, which surprised me. That's yeah. So I think it said it's 10 episodes or I don't have it down in front of me, but every single day was a different episode for like whatever amount of episodes there were. And the first episode came out on Monday.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. ⁓ so that's what they're doing? Interesting. I can get it. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: ⁓ the transition from the, ⁓ the transition from the last, they played like the last episode before it and the transition from the last episode, which for everybody that hasn't seen it, well, don't know why you're listening to this. ⁓ pops is gone and he ends up in heaven and he puts a tape in to watch.
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm. Yeah
Chris Schnabel: the show, which is regular show, like the life that is there. They literally transition that into no ads or anything go right into the next one, which opens with him in the tapes. So like, it was a really cool transition or him in heaven. think it was the start. That was a really cool transition into that because like, it was just like a really nice callback from the last episode. And now it shows that it's a continuation in a way because the show is supposed to be them at the park.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: So for anybody that didn't watch the episode, all the tapes that Pops is watching are his memories. So he has this memory tape that breaks, then he needs to go get ⁓ a fixed, can't get a fixed. ends up going to wherever they store all the memories. He finds a box of memories and they're all ones he's never seen before. Hence the lost tapes. So I'm assuming each episode is gonna be one of those from the lost tapes.
Matt Tornetta: Yes. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: So it's going to be very regular show ask because it's going to be very weird and all over the place and no actual storyline throughout. And we should get about the same type of stuff we got. And I will say the regular show craziness was definitely on full display for that first episode.
Matt Tornetta: Exactly. ⁓ yeah, mean the hovercraft is hilarious. Like getting into a hovercraft and then the military thinking it was a UFO and shooting them down was great.
Chris Schnabel: The one thing, my one big, big opinion was there was a lot going on in that single episode. There was way too much. So much was going on.
Matt Tornetta: ⁓ in that single, yeah, so much, so much. I did watch it twice because I was like, did I miss something? Because there was just so much going on. You have pretty much like four different storylines going on in one episode.
Chris Schnabel: in one episode. Yeah. It was like almost like the first part of him or two retrieving the tapes was like its own episode. And then like the start of the episode was its own episode. And then like the start of the tape was its own. Like they were all like you said it's like four different things going on at once. And there was just so much going on a little too much going on for that first one.
Matt Tornetta: Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I think, you know, it's, I guess they're trying since it's coming out every day. They're going to try to get as much as they can in each episode. And it's surprising too, because it's like the episodes aren't that long, you know? So it's like...
Chris Schnabel: No, I think 22 minutes.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, so we're getting so much in such a short amount of time and I feel like today we're not used to that because like I said, like The Punisher, they call it a movie, but it was like a normal TV show. I watched the second to last episode of The Boys. That was like 40 something minutes. Like, and you have so much going on in that show and you have all this time to kind of like ease into each storyline. This was just like, let's... Let's sprint. We're doing a sprint in this episode. We're sprinting through everything.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Yeah. And they, and they really did. Like I said, the central plot of it, the thing was they had a new story while also trying to hit all the notes of the old one, which I thought they did a good job of for the most part. Like you go to the shack, you see the outside of the house, all the characters are there. They're doing a luau. And of course they need to get their task done so they can go to the luau and that's all they care about, which is central plot. Yeah.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, I think so, yeah. I love the no wheels rule. The no wheels rule is like, can I use my skateboard? And they're like, there's wheels on a skateboard.
Chris Schnabel: And then he has the thing, the, ⁓ the moving thing was like, what about this thing? And so yeah, everything that has wheels. And that's how we get to the hovercraft that they ended up making because they can't have wheels. So they figure out if they build a hovercraft, which you can get by having tops to pudding or something like that, which also like, it's funny because if they would have just brought in the 600 tops of pudding and gotten the hovercraft,
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Yep.
Chris Schnabel: I don't think it changes the storyline at all from them creating it by getting the booklet. Cause that did nothing. It did nothing. It didn't add like that person doesn't come back or them building. It doesn't do that. No, it was like, did nothing. It just then building it just ⁓ padded another five minutes in there.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it did nothing. But I... I love how the spokesperson guy was like, and you see before when they're getting all the pudding cups or whatever, and you see the advertisement, it's like, if you have this XML, you can get a hovercraft and then he hands them the proof face. He's like, as advertised, here's the blueprint to your hovercraft. And that brings me back to like...
Chris Schnabel: Yeah.
Matt Tornetta: anything that you would see like on like a cereal box or something and they're advertising something and normally if you ordered it it would come in like eight different pieces and you had to put it together. It didn't come all together.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't exactly what you were looking at or looking for or anything like that. And the advertising was like clearly misleading. Like I can't remember exactly what it said, but it was clearly misleading.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. It was super, it was super misleading. And I just, found that funny because like, I feel like that show, that show, in the regular show in the earlier seasons, it did a lot of stuff of bringing things that are ridiculous in our world that we just kind of put up with. Like that's just something we just put up with. Like things that are advertised when they're not advertised clearly enough. And like, we just have to deal with it. when we get something or we buy something and it's just not really what it was advertised as.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Well, that was the best part of the show was it was very, it was very much like low stakes things become world ending things. Like a game of pickup basketball becomes a game of God's versing each other or, know I mean? Like, and I think that's why a lot of people were disappointed with like that last season where they go into space because it was a little too, it's actually my same opinion I have of the show Dexter.
Matt Tornetta: Yay. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Chris Schnabel: where the first four seasons are unbelievable with season four's ⁓ ending being like probably one of the best twists in a prestige TV maybe ever. But then from that point on, it almost becomes a little too mythical rather than based in reality. yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, ⁓
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, like a cop being a murderer is like a little like not as believable. But when you really think about it, like at least it's realistic, right? At least it's like based in reality. Whereas when it goes on, like the newest thing they did, like resurrection or whatever I think it's called where
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. They've had so many spinoffs of that show or like continuations of that show. I feel like there's more.
Chris Schnabel: it's the only two only two. Well, you're right. No, you're right. They had the prelude one that wasn't Michael C. C. Hall, but they had the one where he goes like upstate New York, which was like, okay, I don't remember that something blood or something like that. But then there's one, the new one is supposed to be like a continuation of the whole thing. Like this is supposed to be it. Right. And ⁓ at first it's very, it's like based in reality a little bit.
Matt Tornetta: Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Chris Schnabel: but not really because did you see the new thing? Do you care if I spoil it at all? Have you seen the original series?
Matt Tornetta: No, go right ahead. I only saw like the... I've only seen the first two seasons of the original series. You can. I don't really care.
Chris Schnabel: Well, I'm not going to spoil the season four twist because I know you should go watch it. It's like unbelievably. And it you do not see it coming and it hits you like like crazy. Like it's you have to experience that yourself. But I will I will for the the the old like the whatever season, whatever you call that season eight or nine or the new spin off, whatever, whether in upstate New York. At the end of it, his son shoots him like kills him.
Matt Tornetta: Alright. Alright. Mm-hmm. ⁓
Chris Schnabel: But they come up with like because it was so cold and his heart slowed down, he didn't die, blah, blah, blah. He was found and he was not actually, he never died. That's like that's, that's mythical in its own dude. Dude was shot in the chest. What are we talking about here? Like, I don't care how cold it is. If it hit his heart, he was shot in the heart. Like you're not surviving now. I don't care how cold it is. I don't give a shit. I call you shot the heart.
Matt Tornetta: He was resurrected. Yeah, yeah. And left for dead. Yeah, no, no one survives that. No one survives that. This isn't...
Chris Schnabel: So, so that happens and, ⁓ but the, the plot of it is he ends up finding Harrison who gets into trouble himself because he kills somebody, obviously. ⁓ so he ends up going to find him to help him out and all this stuff happens along the way, but the big, big, big piece of it there is he finds this club of like all these murderers and they all get together under this one person that's just infatuated with murder and all this stuff.
Matt Tornetta: Mm. Yep.
Chris Schnabel: And it's like, that's just so, it's too much. You've gone too far. You've gone too far to the side. Like we need to, we need to narrow out a little bit. And that's, that's how I feel. Yeah. But that, I said, in the beginning, like, is it super realistic that there's a murderer that's on the police force? Probably not, but at least like it makes sense. Like if he's a blood spatter analyst and he knows how a scene should look and he knows how to clean up a scene.
Matt Tornetta: Right. Yeah. Yeah, especially with shows like that. Especially shows with that. It's like... No.
Chris Schnabel: and he knows how to cover his own tracks. Like that makes sense to me. But then you start talking about how like I'm hanging out in this room and this is this murderer that's really famous and this is this murder that's really famous. And then I guess this person this rich it's supposed to be this rich. They're one of the richest guys in New York that he brings them all in because he's infatuated with it all. And you're just getting too mythical at that point. Like this is no longer based in reality.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like there's no, there's no like con for serial killers. Like you don't bring them all together. And I feel like if you, if you watch stuff like on serial killers and like of like, you know, the famous ones, they always have documentaries on them. If you watch some of them, you know, they're like recluse people. Like they don't, like that part.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like it's, it's just too much. Yeah, for the most part, do not want to be, I mean, there's, there's exceptions, but for the most part, they do not want to be seen or heard.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, but that part of their life is secluded away. They don't want anybody to know that that's part of their life. They may be extroverts outside of that life, like their everyday life, but that singular part of their life, the murdering and gruesome murdering, they're not advertising that. No billionaire in the world is going to be like,
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. They don't talk to anybody. Yeah.
Matt Tornetta: I could get the numbers of all these serial killers and see if they'd come and talk to me about their killings. Like, that doesn't happen.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. And that's, that's, that's, that's where I lost me. mean, in the, in the later seasons, it loses me for the same reasons. Like more people are finding out the season seven arc is like, I honestly could spoil anything from five on for anybody because I don't care if anybody watches it. I do. I do like when they introduce Hannah McKay more than most do. I think she was like also a kill. So she like killed somebody as well.
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: But she becomes like the main love interest, but like their connection. I like, I like them coming together and stuff like that. But other than that, I mean, like there's one where like saves a victim and then like he goes on a spree with her and starts taking out all the people that kidnapped her. And then there's another one that the season seven church one is just, it has Edward James almost and Colin Hanks in it, which is, you know, two good actors, but the twist, the twist is okay.
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm. Ooh, very good. Mm-hmm. Yeah. ⁓ okay, cool, Yeah. ⁓ Jesus.
Chris Schnabel: ex-husband like just so weird. Like it's just like so like why would they write that in there? The whole from the beginning it does. It's not great. But then like are they going to have this chemistry like that? Because like first of all, ew. Second of all, they're literally like we're married in real life and then split. So like why are we trying to write these two together in the show? It's the whole season seven was trash or maybe that was six.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. I don't. I don't think any show except for like Law and Order SVU can really write like ancestral like dialogue. Like no one should really put that in there because no one's fishing for that. Like when we're turning on Dexter, I'm not looking to see, ⁓ his sister is definitely gonna bang him and I can't wait for that to happen. Like no one's waiting for that.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, no, no, no, no show should write that. No show should have incest. No one's looking for It's just, it's so weird. No, it's so weird. It's so weird. And they tried to write that as a plot. And then she finds out that who he is and it just becomes even worse.
Matt Tornetta: It's like, it's just, that's just like... Yeah! ⁓ does that sour the relationship? that, does that, does that, does that, yeah, that's, that's just like a red flag for her. Like, being my brother is not, is okay, but being a murderous brother, that turns me off right away. Yeah, that's a red flag for me. Got to move on. Yeah, law abiding citizens is okay.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Turns her off. Believe it or not. Murdering people. That's that's the last straw. That's the last straw. Incest is only good when it's like there are law abiding citizens. Then it's OK. Technically, I will say, technically speaking, Dexter was a was was not a biological brother. If you remember from the beginning, he was found at a crime scene. So technically they're not. But still, they grew up together. It's just not a
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, well, I'm adopted and if I had a sister, wouldn't, I would never think that. Yeah, I know. But if she found out I was a murderer.
Chris Schnabel: Not a good plot to write in there. you wouldn't be like trying to get with her. They wouldn't do that. And it wasn't playfully like how it's a playfully like how young Manny in modern family does it either. Right. Like it's playful. It's jokey like that. She was sitting with a therapist and go I think I love I think I love Dexter. It's like that's strange. That's strange. It's just too bad because season four was so good. Yeah. That's what I mean. Like
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's just not... yeah. Well, it's funny with Manny because he's a child. He's a child and he doesn't know. He doesn't know. But with Dexter and his sister, they're adults. They're consenting adults. Like, get out of here.
Chris Schnabel: How do you feel that modern family handled the kids as they grew up? Did you like what they did or did you dislike what they did? I do have an opinion, but I want to hear yours first.
Matt Tornetta: Okay, ⁓ that's actually a really good question because I think that's one of the best shows that was on TV.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, I enjoyed a lot too. watch all the time. It's Mary's sleep show. I enjoy the show a lot.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, that's it's our it's our like comfort show just to put on. ⁓ How they raise the kids.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, yeah. Not how they raised the kids, how they wrote the kids as adults.
Matt Tornetta: they wrote to kids. ⁓ I would think like I liked, ⁓ like obviously I liked Manny's story, like how they did Manny and how he grew up. I think it like it was a natural progression of his life and I think it went in the right direction.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. ⁓ think they, they, when he was young, the thing is with, with him and with, ⁓ why can't I think of the other son's name? ⁓ but with those two, they kind of like stereotype them and kept them there. But Manny becomes like, very like, like, how do I want to say this without saying it wrong?
Matt Tornetta: ⁓ really? ⁓ my God, I'm gonna blank on it too because you brought it up. ⁓ Luke. It's Luke.
Chris Schnabel: Luke, Luke, Luke just becomes dumb. He's just dumb. Like that's, that's his only trait is he's not smart. And they don't even do that classic. Like he aced the test, but he's the dumb one stroke. Like he's just dumb. And my, my favorite one is they write him to be really dumb as an adult. And then they have a scene where he's trying to get into college and they're like, come on UCLA. He wrote of as dumb for years. Are you talking about UCLA?
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no way.
Chris Schnabel: like, what are we talking about there? But, but Manny like kind of becomes a little pretentious. becomes very pretentious, but he also like, I just don't like how he's written in that way. Like he, he feels like everything's owed to him and he becomes kind of mean in a way. Like for, for example, ⁓ what's, what's Sherry, which was his girlfriend, wasn't really like the girl he was dating when they broke up. It was more like a possession of his that was taken from him because like,
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: like, I still mad and complaining months after it's over. Right? Like they broke up for months and then like, was it right for Luke to get with her? Probably not. But at that, you know, it's like, it's a Luke thing to do, but also like that you guys have been broken up like it. Yeah. So like, I didn't like how those were in
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's a Luke thing to do. Yeah, well I just see it as like Manny, I just see as Manny was always a dramatic character even as a child as they wrote him. Like he likes the drama, he likes Broadway, he likes all that stuff and so that just amplified as he became more and more as an adult. ⁓ My one, like I didn't really like how they wrote Lily, like how she grew up.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, that's that's a consensus take as well. A lot of people didn't like how she grew up. She was very, very one note.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, like I just like, why is she this? Yeah, it's like she's, she's barely in the later seasons and like whenever she is, she's just like very grumpy and it's just like, why, why are you super grumpy? ⁓ and then later in like Haley's life, I wish they were just like, the whole thing with her and Dylan, like that was just getting old. Like, why did she have to have a kid with Dylan? Like it's, makes sense that she would have a kid when she wasn't ready to have a kid because that's who she is. But with, yeah, but with Dylan, it was annoying because you had, Andy, Andy was like perfect for her and it should just stuck with Andy. Like, I don't know why they wrote that off.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. Yeah, that was that was well done. That part was well done. Yeah. Yeah, I was confused why they went that direction as well, other than he just couldn't stay on the show. That would be my only guess.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, the only thing is, is yeah, is that in workaholics was like blowing up at that time.
Chris Schnabel: I think at that time, was it not over yet by the end of Modern Family? Was that show not over? I thought it was. I think they did run at the same time, but I think, I feel like Workaholics ended like when I was in college almost, if not just after.
Matt Tornetta: No, I don't think so. Let me see. I'm gonna see. ⁓ Yeah, it might have just ended, but 2009.
Chris Schnabel: But modern family ended like five, six years ago. Workaholics in 2009. Modern family didn't end in 09. It started in 09. Yeah. It ended in like 19 or something like that. Maybe, maybe later.
Matt Tornetta: It's... No, uh, it's... Oh no, did it start? No, it started in 2009. Yeah. Um... And Workaholics started in 2011.
Chris Schnabel: when did the workaholics end? Because it didn't go that long. It only went a couple of seasons. Modern family, think, is like 19 or something like that. 2020. I think I said five years ago. So six years ago. And the workaholics is what? Like 16, 17?
Matt Tornetta: I'm trying to... You mean modern family. 2020. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: I'm close.
Matt Tornetta: me see, let me see.
Chris Schnabel: I gotta be close. I'm just talking for no dead air. Just fill in dead air. I know, just saying. I keep saying I'm gonna be close. Yeah, so he's not working on workaholics at that point because that storyline is the last season, two seasons or something like that. But he did pitch perfect.
Matt Tornetta: I'm just trying to see... 2017, the last episode aired. Yeah, but he, what they were trying to do, yeah, he was doing Pitch Perfect and he was like in the middle of writing Workaholics. Like he wrote with the other two guys.
Chris Schnabel: No, but I'm saying workaholics was over by the time they got to that point. By the time he was, she was having a kid workaholics was over. He wasn't writing it anymore. It's done. But he was doing many other, he was very big at that point. Like, cause right, right as workaholics was ending, he went to do, ⁓ pitch perfect and pitch perfect too. Cause those are around that time.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah, didn't you get a spin-off? Yeah, and then he got his own spinoff for that too.
Chris Schnabel: I have no, that I don't know. I didn't follow that deeply.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, like the Buster, they did a movie about Buster, his character. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: So I could see that like, yeah, it makes sense that he was too busy to stick along. Cause I agree. I think that probably was the better direction to go. That's why I asked. Cause I feel like, I feel like you go either way, but I just didn't think the kids were really written that well at the end, except for
Matt Tornetta: Yeah Yeah, the only one that I that like really made sense to me was Alex. Like she just...
Chris Schnabel: That's what I gonna say except for Alex, because it just made sense. She had a good progression because of how they made her in the beginning. She was uptight and smart, and you kind of build her into that role later on, and it made sense.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, so it was really only that. I do miss that show. Maybe I'll watch that tonight, but... ⁓ But yeah, think it with like a lot of these shows, with like Modern Family, I'm glad they didn't do like a reboot. I'm glad they haven't done like a spinoff. I'm glad they just kind of left it as is. because like the last episode was really good, like it made sense. It was a nice closing for everybody and they were gone. And it was like ⁓ in Modern Family fashion, you know, like the show really, the last episode emulated the whole show.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, yeah, same, same. Not to, not to go too far off. I'll just, I'll wrap this up with a tight bow. A regular show. Check it out. It was good. I give it a thumbs up. Like I think, I think the first episode was good because I have another question for you that's not related to that. So, I, I, don't have much time, so I want to ask you this question though, because I thought about it the other day when we were going to, was it yesterday when we were going to record? I wanted to, did you watch Archer? Did that show just fall out of cultural completely?
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. Yep, me too. Okay. Mm-hmm. Yes, all of it. Yes.
Chris Schnabel: Like no one talks about it ever anymore, but it was like one of the top shows for what? Five seasons, four seasons until ISIS had to be taken out because it was called ISIS. That show was like, it was me. It was memed all the time. Like those actors were everywhere. Like it just kind of fell. ⁓ constantly phrasing is from there. Like, like that, this, the reason I said that
Matt Tornetta: Yeah. People were quoting it left and right. Yep.
Chris Schnabel: is because when we have peanut butter, we give the spoons to the dogs to lick up and Mary gave a spoon to the dogs and left it on the ground. And my thought was, this is how we get ants. it may, I was like, does anyone even talk about Archer anymore? Like, did it just disappear? Like what happened? I don't even remember how it ended.
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't even remember how it ended either. like, I don't think I saw the last season. I don't think I ever watched the last season.
Chris Schnabel: I don't know if I've seen the ending of it. I don't think I've seen how it ended. I know there's one where it's like a dream. I think I saw that. I don't know. I tried to keep up with it when they moved away from ISIS and stuff like that. And I just don't remember. I remember nothing past. I think it's like season four when it's the Bob burgers cold open. That's the last season. I remember after that. I don't remember anything, but like I do remember that was like a really big show that just like disappeared. No one talks about it. You don't see photos of it. You don't see remember the show. You don't see nothing about it. It's just gone.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, I'm. Yeah, I feel like when it came out, was like, ⁓ it was so much different from like the Simpsons family guy, American Dad, where it's adult animation. They can say whatever they want. They could do ridiculous things, but this was a little more, I don't know, ⁓ not as like sitcom-y. Like it was, yeah, yeah.
Chris Schnabel: It was, it wasn't silly. was straightforward. There was no silliness to it. Like in the traditional sense, like, there was silliness to it, obviously, but there was no silliness in their traditional sense. Like it was very straightforward. Yeah. When I, when I was on radio back in college, we had a Sean Benjamin at the peak of the show on the show. And he said, there was no, you could not improvise. Everything had to be said exactly the way it was written.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, there was a lot of dry humor in it. And like...
Chris Schnabel: Like you couldn't go off of anything. You couldn't be like, what if this line here? No, exactly how it's written is how you're doing it. Exact dialect you're supposed to say is how you say it because everything that was written was part of the joke. So you couldn't go like some shows you can go off the top of your head and be like, ⁓ well, what about this line? Or you may say something and it makes the final cut. Not with this one. Like this was very much, this is it. You have to stick with this. So it just, it just blows my mind. That's nowhere, literally nowhere.
Matt Tornetta: Hmm Right. I know. It's just, yeah, that it's not talked about or it's not like brought up. Yeah, it's...
Chris Schnabel: not talked about, not memes, not brought up. There's not Instagram accounts being like, remember this show or nothing. It's just gone.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, I don't even see like clips on TikTok with them in it. It's like...
Chris Schnabel: Yeah. So I mean, like I see clips of everything on tick tock, literally every show that ever exists. I see these movies that I have no clue what's going on. I was like, I didn't know it was a movie. This came out in 1997. Never heard of it. It's on tick tock constantly, but archers nowhere to be found. It makes no sense. It was such a big show. It was so culturally. It was one like Emmys. It won Emmys. The cast was insane. I should tailor H John Benjamin.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it really doesn't. And the cast was insane. The voice casting. Jessica Walter. Like... ⁓
Chris Schnabel: Jessica Walter. And I think, think she passed before the show ended. I didn't see that either. I don't know how they dealt with that. Like I, yeah, I thought of a quote from it. And like I said, that was like one of the highest quoted shows, won a couple of Emmys, like won a ton of Annie's had a crazy voice. What was it? Aisha Taylor. What we say, Jessica Walter, H John Benjamin, Chris Parnell, like Judy Greer.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, she did, Yep. Judy Greer.
Chris Schnabel: like it had a really good voice cast. That's the main cast and it's just gone. It was just gone. That that that's all I had to say. I just wanted to see if you watched it. If you've like heard of anything in years, the show's so good. The first four seasons were excellent. I do too. Yeah. I remember that too on FX. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. I tried to keep up with it.
Matt Tornetta: I know Bruce Campbell, Fred Armisen was in it. Like, yeah, it's... ⁓ I freaking love that show. Like, I like was watching it on TV. Like, I was waiting for it to come on TV and was like, ⁓ Archer's on tonight. Yeah, Archer's on tonight. I gotta watch Archer.
Chris Schnabel: after like the first four seasons, but I just don't remember. I remember like there was one where they were like, uh, like in the snow, but not the one with the German girl. That's from the first four seasons. Everything after season four. I don't really remember. Like Christian Slater was in it at some point. I don't really remember it, but I just remember him being in it, but I don't remember the season whatsoever. You know what I mean? Like I think his name was Slater. I think I just named him Slater. Um, but yeah, nowhere to be found. So if you watched Archer, let us know because
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah, he was. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: so did we. Maybe we should just do an archer episode. We could just hit it. We could. We could hit the arch. I don't care about reviving it. Let's just revive the conversation. Let's just get the conversation about about it on here.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, maybe we, maybe, yeah, I think we need to revive it. Let's revive it and we're gonna do, we're gonna do Archer. Yeah, let's just talk about it. Let's, we're gonna, I'll get us a list of some of the most iconic episodes of the Archer. We're gonna watch them and then we're gonna talk about them and just, just go through it.
Chris Schnabel: I mean, I feel like off the top of my head, I can name a cut. Like I can't name the episodes, but there's the one where they get the new agent and he's actually just trying to steal the stuff from him. And they're in Miami. ⁓ he comes back later to like that. That one's an iconic episode. That's what I was going to, that when I said it's silly, like he has cancer, he's going on a rampage. Yeah. Cause cause the pills are wrong.
Matt Tornetta: Yep. The ⁓ one when he has cancer, when he gets breast cancer. he's yeah it's going on his rampage like that is one of my favorite episodes of all time.
Chris Schnabel: It's so good. It's so good. There's a lot of really weak. I mean, we go all day on this. There's a lot of really, really good ones.
Matt Tornetta: I mean, the episodes that have a Barry in it are hilarious. Those are just, it's always with Barry in it. Yeah, competing spies and then he turns into an android. That is, he works in Russia. Yeah.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, those are always excellent. Those are always excellent. They're competing spies. It's just hilarious. Yeah. And then he works for Russia. Yeah. No, it's just so good. I'm going to have to go back and watch this. I wonder if it got buried because they were called ISIS. It might've, it might. No, was like, yeah, like I sure it was an organization at the time, but it things happened in between there, but
Matt Tornetta: Maybe. But like, you can't really blame them. Yeah, yeah.
Chris Schnabel: Anyway, yeah, if you watched Archer, let us know. Maybe we'll do an episode on Archer. Hit that whatever that demographic left is. We'll hit that demographic with Archer. Yeah, we're gonna put in the title and see who comes up. See who comes around.
Matt Tornetta: Yes, yes, we'll find them. We'll find them now. Yeah, see if it comes up. Yeah, see who's like, Archer.
Chris Schnabel: Oh, Archer. haven't heard of that in years. Anyway, thank you guys for watching. We really appreciate it. Make sure you follow us at sketching a podcast on Instagram, Twitter and Tik Tok. You can also subscribe to us on YouTube. Just hit the subscribe button at the bottom. Why don't you give us a like and a comment while you're there. Follow us on Spotify. Apple podcasts are your favorite podcasting platform as well. Hit us. Follow hit us with five stars. Hit us with a comment. All that good stuff. You can listen to old episodes as well. If you are in the Houston area, May 24th.
Matt Tornetta: Mm-hmm.
Chris Schnabel: I'm doing an interview Saturday. It's just, I'd be doing it from the floor or not. It's all it is. Or I'll be doing it in a different studio. Uh, but you can keep up with that on mad props pod, social media on Instagram or Twitter to see more about that.
Matt Tornetta: Yeah, yeah, that's all that is.
Chris Schnabel: But if you're in the area, Comic Palooza, May 24th, 415, I'll be doing a panel on the podcast stage. Come on out, say hi, and check out that panel as well. Any last, any final thoughts? Any final thoughts? Go watch Archer.
Matt Tornetta: Cool. Any final thoughts? Yeah, I'm just psyched to do an Archer episode. I want to do that now. Like, I'm going to just start watching Archer now. Yep. Yep. Thank you. Peace.
Chris Schnabel: Yeah, yeah, that's, that's coming up. That's coming up. 100 % All right. Thank you, everybody. We'll see you later. It's been sketching up later.
