Church & State -Stop Screaming for Silence with Mindy Robinson

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Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city.
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A different housman, Caleb Collier says that this I'm.
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Proposing that the City of Spokane Valley issue a proclamation
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stating that our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary.
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Welcome to the.
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Fire today on Church and State. Will be joined by
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Mindy Robinson. Hello Christian Patriots, and welcome to Church and State,
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at proton dot me with that, this is going to
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be a fun episode. Many of you probably know Mindy Robinson.
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She's got a massive social media following. She's an independent journalist,
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hidden history buff libertarian. She's a host of conspiracy truths,
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not conspiracy theories. These are truth ladies and gentlemen. So Mindy,
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a pleasure to have you on the show.
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Oh thanks for having me.
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Yeah, absolutely, So just run off the bat. Perhaps you
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know there's an audience member who doesn't know you, but
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you are such a hardcore advocate for personal freedom, for liberty.
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So tell us how you got your start.
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Oh gosh, you know, I was actually did TV and
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film for a long time, so I had already had
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kind of built up a platform. And then when Trump
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decided to run in twenty sixteen, I realized nobody knew
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what they were.
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Talking about politics.
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And I actually have a useless degree in political science
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and margan history, and so I was kind of able
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to use like my comedic, you know, background, on top
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of trying to explain how things work and stuff like that.
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So I kind of get into it that way. And
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I've backed out of politics a lot. I feel like
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it's I don't know, I see like this big design
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where it's just meant to keep us distracted and depleted
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and fighting with each other instead of, you know, trying
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to presume our own sovereignty.
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I would completely agree with that.
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I've been using my channel to advocate for people to
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stop with this engineered hostility towards people that you view
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differently politically. I tell people all the time that Democrat
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neighbor is not your enemy, and so I appreciate that.
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But getting into you know, you're obviously you're big into health,
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You're big into these so called conspiracies. So let's we'll
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really kind of showcase that as we progressed in the episode.
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Let's just start with health here, because this is such
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a big issue with us. And I mean everything, the air,
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the water, the food, it's all polluted, it's all poison.
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It's very difficult for those of us who have concerns
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to I don't know, eat properly, drink good water.
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Well, they definitely don't make it easy. I think, like
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many people, I woke up.
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I mean I was already kind of a conspiracy you know, truther,
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but I really woke up with COVID, and I think
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a lot of people did. When you see the entire
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medical community get behind a vaccine that could not have
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been tested in time, there was no long term testing,
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There definitely wasn't any generational side effects, and push it
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as safe as an effective and push it on you
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like mandatory wise, and then watching people get sick and
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then deny it watching people get kicked.
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I couldn't tell you how many times I was thrown
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in a Facebook jail.
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I was even kicked off Twitter for two years for
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like saying things like, hey, you guys didn't test this vaccine.
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And so once people realize that doctors and everyone are
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willing to murder them on ventilators and vendesabaer just to
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make a check, then you have to start digging, well,
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what else are they lying about? And it turns out everything,
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absolutely everything. Salt is good for you, it's not bad
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for you. Cholesterol is good for you, your brain needs that.
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The sunshine is good for you. Sunblock is bad for you.
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So it's just been I think.
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With everybody just slowly unraveling a lifetime of lies and
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getting to the truth and actually getting healthy for the
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first time probably my life.
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I so completely agree with you, and I talk about
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this on the show quite a bit. COVID had silver linings,
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and the biggest one to me is exactly what you
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were talking about right there, people waking up. The distrust
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of the establishment was massive for us, and so yeah,
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we started looking at it and saying, hey, we've been
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told for years where sunscreen right that the sun is
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giving you cancer, And that's just one example. And now
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they're even admitting it. I mean we're seeing this on
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mainstream news. Oh hey, guess what sunblock's bad for you?
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Amazing? Who would have thought it?
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Well, you know, the sunblock we buy in America isn't
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even legal overseas because it destroys and kills marine life.
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So what do you think it's doing when you cover
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your body head to toe in it and when you
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look at like the explosion of skin cancers, you know
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in the sixties and seventies, Well what else came out?
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Sunglasses and sunblock? And so for Bernie Man, I experimented
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on myself. I always, as a true conspiracy realized, try
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try it on myself before I promote it to others.
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I had already cut out seed oils.
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For six months, which is a huge thing because it
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causes inflammation, it makes you burn faster. I stopped wearing
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sunglasses unless it was to drive, and I already wasn't
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wearing sunblock. And I'm Irish American. I did not burn
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the entire time, and I was really out in the sun.
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And now like pretty tan, I'm like, if I can
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tend as one of the whitest people I knew, then
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there's hope for the rest of us. And maybe not redheads.
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I don't know about gingers. I'd probably just stay out
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of the sun. But you know, and so if they're
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lying about that, what else they're lying about the sun?
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Do you remember during COVID when they said don't go
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outside and it turns out that was the best thing
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you could have done.
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These people are awful, but it's our job to see
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through that.
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And I think that's the journey of life is no
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matter what they tell you, go with your heart, go
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with your intuition, go with you know, whatever other people whatever,
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the opposite of what they're saying.
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Basically, yeah, I think it's it's very healthy and very
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American actually to be a bit of a contrarian, all right,
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to look at what the establish the government is saying
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and question it immediately. And I'm not trying to say
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that everything the government has ever told us, or anything
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the establishment or the elites have ever told us is
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a lie, but I think for every single one of us,
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we should at least test it.
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I actually think everything they ever told us was a lie.
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I'm hard pressed sitting there thinking of something they haven't
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lied about.
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We didn't go to the Moon. I love that one.
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My heart was broken that day when I started digging
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into it.
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I'm like, I'm looking at the footage like, no, it
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was like an old movie where the effects did and
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hold up. I'm like, this never happened. And if they're
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lying about that, what else they lying about? And the
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history is all wrong. I'm major in American history. I'll
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tell you it's all lies. Someone had fun making it
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up and it doesn't make sense. And now, you know,
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just going back with and I think that is kind
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of nice, you know, as a society, like digging through
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it together and trying to get to the truth behind everything.
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If we all do a little bit of something and
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then show each other the work, we actually might you know,
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write this ship.
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I know I would agree with that.
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Actually, perhaps I was being a little bit too generous
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when it came to the government, because yeah, most of
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it I do agree as lies. I'm one hundred percent
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with you with the moon landing. That was fake Ladies
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and gentlemen shot in a Hollywood basement. You don't believe me.
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Check out Red Hot Chili Pepper's Californication. They spell it
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out for you right there. And it's not that they're
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the good guys, ladies and gentlemen. No, that's not the case.
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But yeah, I mean the chemtrails is another example.
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All right.
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They told us that this was just this just condensation, right,
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and we're all looking at the sky going I remember
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clouds being puffy. I remember laying on my back in
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the grass and looking up and imagining shapes in them.
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Not this haze that dissipated from the engine of an
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airplane and black cloud of the whole world.
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It was wild.
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Uh yeah, kem trails were one likes. Here's an interesting
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partly pretty much everything I believe now is the opposite
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what I used to believe.
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So I get where people are when.
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You go, oh, kem trails use contralts like I understand
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the programming. They are not dosing us with fluoride by accident.
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They're not indoctrinating us from youth by an accident. It's
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all a plan to make us think a certain way.
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And it really once you see past that curtain one time,
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whether it was COVID nine to eleven, whatever, you see
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through everything and I just look at my timeline, and
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it's interesting seeing other people also figuring that out. They're
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not gonna sit there and argue with you about whatever,
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like that's dumb, that's fake. That definitely didn't happen. Okay, next,
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like it's not working. The syops aren't working anymore. I
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think it's the most beautiful thing ever.
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Like nobody believes what this government says, Bring on the aliens.
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I can't wait.
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Right, I'm right there with you, you know, And you bring
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up a really interesting point, because you're right, the syomps
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aren't working anymore. And it seems like the government, the elites, whatever,
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the mom I don't care, whatever you want to call
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these people, they don't seem to care anymore.
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Like the Charlie Kirk assassination, for example.
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Like, there is no way you will ever convince me
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of a lone gunman who disassembled the rifle, reassembled it,
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ran off the roof, reassembled it back in the woods
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so that people could find it that that was even
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a shot. There's no way, and they didn't even try
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it seemed like to convince the people because unfortunately the
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vast majority are consumed by the bread and circus well.
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I don't know, I feel like a mass you know,
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they made.
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Us watch it.
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So fear mongering is a big thing for this government
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because people that live in fear are easier to control,
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people that live without God are easier to control.
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And so one of the things they.
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Did is like NonStop like murder mystery shows and law and.
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Order and you know, crime.
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So everyone can like look at something and be like, no,
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you know, that doesn't make sense. And if it doesn't
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make sense, it's not true. And then you start digging further.
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And that's the thing with lying it. It's always going
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to lead to moral lies or things that don't make sense.
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And so it's kind of a beautiful thing to watch
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the critical thinking level in this country just kind of explode.
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Uh And yes, you're gonna see people are like agree
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with it.
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But then you look at them, all the same influencers
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that you know, don't think Charlie Kirk was killed by Israel,
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also happened to port Israel also happened to don't care
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about Epstein.
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They also, you know, they defend all these things.
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That nobody else does because they're getting paid. And then
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you can see the bots. I see the bot accounts,
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you can click on them. There's nothing to him. It's always
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a picture of a dog. There's always some ridiculousness. They
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if they were in the majority, they wouldn't have to
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fake it.
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And so that's how I know we're winning.
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Even if it doesn't feel like it, I know in
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my heart it feels like it because they're trying, they
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are failing, they are going.
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Down in flames, and it's the most beautiful thing I've
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ever seen.
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No, I would definitely agree with that. And you bring
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up a really great point that I want to dive into.
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These conservative influencers that literally make me want to smash
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my head into the table because they're all saying the
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exact same thing. I don't care who it is, Ben Shapiro,
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who who's the one that was just outed a case
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there we go, Yes, And even some of the older ones,
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the Sean Hannity's, the Mark Levans, they're all literally saying
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the exact same thing. And we during you know, the
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Trump era, we had this mainstream media this is fake news.
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We don't want any part of it.
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But so many of them got distracted by these so
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called conservative influencers who are doing the exact same thing,
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and you brought up the nation of Israel. This is
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a subject I'm not afraid to approach on my show. Look,
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you have to look at the Nation of Israel and say, yes,
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they've been involved in some very shady behavior. And is
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there some ties to for example, the Charlie Kirk assassination.
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I think so, but the very least we should at
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least look at it.
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You know, if you watch enough murder shows the guilty,
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who has motive?
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Who had motive to do this?
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It certainly wasn't a tranny that whatever that ridiculous story was.
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Israel offered them a lot of money to keep pushing
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the propaganda, and he turned them down, and they made
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an example of them, and it couldn't be clearer than day.
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And then the cover up, the poor cover because you know.
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As much I don't want our military or anything to
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be merged with the foreign country. That should never happen.
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But the truth as it already is, they just want
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it done on paper. The whole nine to eleven thing.
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Who do you think actually brought down the towers? Who
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had access?
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It's one big entity and you know they are not
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in the majority.
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They've always been afraid of our numbers, and I think
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we're about to live through the time where we see
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the end of this corrupt system once.
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And for all.
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I pray for that daily, that this whole thing would
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come crashing down, that we replaced the government with one
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that will actually protect our God given rights, our sovereignty.
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As you spoke about a little bit earlier. Yeah, I'm
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with you on this one. We should not be I mean,
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our founding fathers talked about this foreign entanglements with none,
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free trade withal and yet we have this favored nation
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status that we've doled out to a few nations out there,
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but Israel's at the top of the list. And for me,
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I throw that directly upon the dispensational lie that was
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sold by Schofield and Darby and I talk about this
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a lot on the show. But there's so many Christians
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that believe that Israel's God's chosen people and so we
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can't touch them.
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And it's based off a lie. And anyone who digs
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deep enough realize it's based off a lie. And here's
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the issue. I'm a hermetic gnostic Christian.
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It was basically the Christianity that existed before the Roman
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Catholic Church what I.
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Was raised in.
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And a lot of people are like, this is a Bible,
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this is a word of God, and like, you have
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to understand that was written by men with their own ideals.
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The Council of Nicea was led by a pagan Roman
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emperor who murdered his wife and child.
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You have to question it. What is true in your
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heart about God is going to be true.
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And so this is the Schoofield Bible. A man wrote it,
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a man wrote it. We have to learn to, I think,
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have our own relationship with God and question the things
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that man has done in his name if we're going to,
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you know, truly find peace in this world.
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Honestly, Yeah, I mean I'm not a gnostic. I'm Lutheran personally,
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but you know some of what you're saying there, you know,
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Paul and I talk about this a lot on the
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show too. Paul commended the Bareans why because they heard
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the message and then they searched the scriptures to see
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if it was true. And so I think any of
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us that are pursuing truth, because I think you and
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I would both agree if you're on a journey of
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pursuing truth, you're going to look for the source, and
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that source is always going to be God.
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Well God is everything, but our interpretation of it is
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the thing that's always up for debate.
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Sure I can respect that for sure. All right.
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So continuing on with the conversation, and we've been I mean,
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I said health originally, but we dove into a lot
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of these conspiracy truths as well. But they're so wrapped
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in together. You know, it's like, why are they putting
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fluorite in the water. Why are they forcing kids to
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get you know, seventy something vaccines before they turn the
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age of two, because, as you pointed out, they want
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a sickly population, they want a fear based population because
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we're easier to control.
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Then, yeah, it's actually.
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All related no matter what you look at it, Like
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why fake the moon landing? Because it removes God on
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it people's lives. It makes you think you came from
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monkeys having sex, from a giant cosmic accident.
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Which your life is worthless.
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And I know, you know, everything they do has a
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meaning to them about it. And I'm literally just try
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just whatever they say, do the opposite, think the opposite.
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And it's crazy how much more sense things make sense
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because that's how inverted everything has becommon and that's part.
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Of the plan as well.
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Yeah, I would definitely agree with that. All right, let's
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get a little bit wild here. Conspiracy truths, okay, And
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sometimes I've seen people go really far into this. I've
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seen people claim that like Australia isn't real, that it
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doesn't actually exist, and then you talk to somebody from
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Australia and you're.
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Like, I'm here, I'm over here.
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So sometimes I think there's disinformation thrown out there. But
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some of the more wild conspiracy theories I want to
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ask you questions about, Like, let's just bring up flat Earth.
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My producer is a flat earth or he loves that.
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I'm already talking about this, but where do you stand
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on this?
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So here's the deal.
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The globe, they kind of made up those numbers, so
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if you actually took a camera, you could see further
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than the curvatu're supposed to let you can see things
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that are further.
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So they're kind of proving themselves wrong.
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Now as to whether it's round or flat, it's neither
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in my In my opinion, I think everything is energy,
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everything is sound and frequency. God created everything with sound.
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Everything is vibration. The earth is whatever you want it
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to be. If you want it to be round, you'll
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keep seeing clues for it being round. If you want
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it to be flat, you'll see truth or being flat.
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We are at least bigger than what they're saying that
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I will give you just on the evidence.
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But it's it's energy, It's whatever you want it to be.
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It's an infinite amount of possible realities at all times.
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It's probably more shaped like a toroidal, feel something magnetic
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than anything. But I think it's small minded to think
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it's either a ball or just flat flat, And then
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where's this is the realm of energy from which we live.
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I believe we're fractals of God experience saying itself experiencing consciousness.
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Everything is mine, everything is consciousness.
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To argue about the physicality of non physical things seems
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kind of irrelevant in the big scope of things.
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I think we're selling ourselves short.
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That were much bigger and much more cooler than a
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globe or you know, a.
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Pancake, gotcha, I mean, And what you're saying, you know,
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I mean, obviously, frequency is very important, and as you said,
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God designed this, and there's a reason why the elites
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changed the frequency of the music that we listen to
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to one that's much more disruptive of our human selves.
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So there is something to be said for these frequencies.
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There's a lot If everything is sound and energy, then
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you should be able to manipulate things for the good
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or better with that sound and energy. And so there's
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a lot of conspiracies about Tartaria and the bells. Why
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did they destroy all the bells because they were healing.
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Sound frequency is healing. There's even a theory that cathedrals.
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Weren't made for church, but not really does designed for
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it physically, they were kind of like there were places
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of healing.
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And no one hated natural holistic medicine worse than Rockefella
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because he wanted to make money off getting you sick.
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And it's interesting like he lived in like ninety six
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you know why, because he had a holistic doctor. He
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know it worked. He just wanted the rest of you
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to only live so long. So, yeah, everything is sound
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and frequency. Everything from the music you listen to.
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If you want to listen to rap music about killing
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people and robbing people, it's going to affect your soul.
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It kind of has to you put us some easy
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listening from the sexies.
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You're having a great day.
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Everything really is sound in frequency, and I think it's underrated.
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I think we need to incorporate it more. Everything's so
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busy sounding. Why is it gonna be music everywhere? You know,
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there's nothing.
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Wrong in silence. There's something beautiful about nature and it's
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all related.
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Yeah, I think I might be a tad schizophrenic here
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because my music is either classical music, which is absolutely
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beautiful at healing, or punk rock, which is like anti authoritarian.
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Well the old punk ro not the new punk rock.
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So yeah, I mean there's I don't know.
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Maybe that's just what I need in my life, is
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the balance of those two different frequencies. But there is
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something to be said for the music that you're listening to.
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I appreciate what you said there. Because rap, yeah, I mean,
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there's evidence that points out that the CIA was directly
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involved behind rap music. If you don't believe the audience,
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look it up. My guest is already Noddy.
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Yes, that is true, because well, anything that damages the
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community or the family unit makes people easier to control,
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you know. So they gave rap music about violence to
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black people, they put them on crack in the eighties,
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they gave white people opiates, you know, in the zeros
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or tens what every want to call it.
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Like they're always trying to destroy the.
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Family unit because as a community, we will always be
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stronger than that in the elite few living off of
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us like tax cattle. And you know, maybe, like think
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about it, you need to listen to angry music to
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do something to the inside of you, to release something,
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because it's frequency.
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It works like that.
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Why is listening to sad songs help during a breakup?
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These are all things that are interesting that we should
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be studying more.
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And we don't.
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Yeah, I would agree with that.
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Although the man and me says I never listened to
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sad songs during a breakup, I will neither confirm or
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deny that one.
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Chris.
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Don't laugh at that, Chris, It's fine.
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I can be sensitive too, No.
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Manbe this is It's a great conversation, and I hope
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it's waking people up and encouraging people to explore different perspectives,
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to not just immediately dismiss something just because that sounds strange,
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that sounds foreign. And one of the things that I
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saw on your website. Did I have to ask you
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about and Chris is going to bring it up real quick.
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Pandas aren't real, Like, that's a really interesting topic right there.
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You've done a whole video on it.
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I did, so you know, I'm always on the question
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for new content because I'm not the only.
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One digging into this. It's a whole community.
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And I came I kept coming across the pandua's pandas
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at really and the thing is they're not imaginary. You know,
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they obviously exist, but they don't seem to exists well,
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and there's not a long history of them in China,
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Like they just kind of show up in artwork rather recently.
489
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They don't breathe for anything. They're like they're like they.
490
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Can only breathe like two days a year, and they're
491
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really bad at that.
492
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If you ever see videos.
493
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Of them, they're like they're they're not fighting off a tiger,
494
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they're not fighting off anything. They're they're rolling around. They
495
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can barely stand. They're falling out of trees.
496
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So the theory is maybe they were.
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Genetically made because someone wanted a cute bear they could
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hug that would murder them, or or something like that,
499
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but they're not.
500
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They're not one hundred percent nature made. And that's actually
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believable because I don't think.
502
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This is the first we think were the most advanced
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civilization that has ever come, and we know we're not.
504
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We can't even explain how they made buildings, you know,
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from not that long ago, so obviously they're not. We're
506
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the era of plastic. Everything is temporary and cheap. I
507
00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:54.759
don't even know how my phone works, you know, so
508
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I don't know. I thought it was a fun one
509
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and I.
510
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Might actually agree with it, and they they might genetically genetically.
511
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I could see the argument for it.
512
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I mean, you watch these these zoo keepers, any of
513
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them dealing with pandas. I mean, they're they're literally actively
514
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trying to make sure they don't kill themselves. They have
515
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no balance, I mean, they're constantly falling over, just crashing
516
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into things. So I could see the argument being made
517
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that these things were genetically engineered. It wouldn't be the
518
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first time. I mean, those of us who listened to
519
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Alex Jones back in the day, remember him ranting and
520
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raven about spider goats. There was a spider goats that
521
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:35.079
were they were weaving this like silk for armament, So
522
00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:36.400
it wouldn't be the first time for.
523
00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:41.279
Us, you know, it won't be the last.
524
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No, You're you're absolutely right. I mean, look at the transhumanism.
525
00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.240
You know, you've all known Harari. For example, in the
526
00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:51.440
World Economic Forum, they're talking about this, they're talking about
527
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being able to clone humanity, to make cyborgs, to merge
528
00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:58.119
us with machines. So yeah, obviously there is an agenda
529
00:23:58.160 --> 00:23:59.680
there and they're talking about it openly.
530
00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:04.400
Yeah, I you're gonna wonder what you know, it's their agenda,
531
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:06.240
but you're gonna wonder, like what's behind it?
532
00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:08.279
And I'm not even wondering, like do clone people? Would
533
00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:11.519
they have souls? Does that work? Like that is anyone?
534
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.519
Is that what they're looking for? Like a human without
535
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:17.319
a soul that they don't. And on the other hand,
536
00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:18.400
here's the other conspiracy theory.
537
00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:20.480
If you're if you're a tartarian or anything like that,
538
00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:24.240
there seems to be a giant reset not that long ago,
539
00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:28.039
like in the eighteen hundreds where you have all these
540
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:33.480
orphan kids on trains being sent for farm labor across America, across.
541
00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:35.319
Australia, Like where did all these little white kids come from.
542
00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:39.160
Why you know, there are babies and incubators at world's
543
00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:40.839
fairs and stuff like, why was it so rare to
544
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:41.440
see a baby?
545
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:45.079
See? Where are the babies? Why aren't they selling babies
546
00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:47.240
as coming from cabbage patches and storks?
547
00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:49.920
And people were buying babies all, you know, like on
548
00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:52.279
postcords and stuff. There seems to have been a reset
549
00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:57.680
and a population and I I don't think cloning or
550
00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:02.359
any of that stuff is anything new, but that's just me.
551
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:05.559
I mean, everything points to their having been plumbed humans before.
552
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:10.079
And why would they stop? Why would they ever stop?
553
00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:12.440
I'm sure like they're making the rich people who's making
554
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.880
propagatage of themselves but not understanding that doesn't make them themselves.
555
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:19.839
Our awareness, our God getting conscious is what actually you
556
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:21.480
know makes us a lot.
557
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:24.000
That's everything exceptarate except your awareness.
558
00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:24.759
Yeah.
559
00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:26.799
Well, I would say that they're very short sighted. They're
560
00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.759
not looking at you know, living in a different existence
561
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:34.319
heaven or hell. They're they're trying to, you know, find
562
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.680
the fountain of eternal youth to where they can live
563
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:41.400
on this earth for all of eternity, that they can
564
00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:42.720
defeat death.
565
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:44.599
And obviously for.
566
00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:47.240
You and I, you know that that's not the case.
567
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:50.920
That these people are actually going to imprison themselves, especially
568
00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:52.599
if they merge themselves with technology.
569
00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:55.400
Yeah, do you know how that works?
570
00:25:55.400 --> 00:26:01.279
With the technology, This idea need to live forever in
571
00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:04.319
a physical body is kind of bizarre. The body's designed
572
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:06.240
to break down. That's the whole experience of life is
573
00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:08.839
it's limited. You've got the illusion of time or you're
574
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:12.160
experiencing yourself. Otherwise, what's the alternative if you woke up
575
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:15.880
tomorrow and you are omnipoi and omnipresent, and you knew everything,
576
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:17.880
and you knew every alternate version of anything that could
577
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:18.240
ever happen.
578
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:19.119
How much fun is that?
579
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:22.920
This is the experience that these limited bodies and the
580
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.279
awareness lives forever, the ego doesn't, and the ego, which
581
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:28.720
it's designed to keep us alive on this animal planet
582
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:31.200
that never wants to die. I think that's really what
583
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:33.240
they're wrestling with. They're not looking to really live for
584
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:37.839
everywhere do that. They're looking to keep their ego, their
585
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:42.440
their individuality and when really it's for all connected. And
586
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:45.559
I think being connected is a lot cooler than being
587
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:47.359
myself for eternity.
588
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:50.680
Yeah, I mean, obviously there's there's a communist element to
589
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:55.359
that mindset, that hive mindset that they're pushing upon us,
590
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:58.799
and it results in a lack of freedom, a lack
591
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:03.039
of individuality, and for people, you know, on our spectrum,
592
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:08.160
we're going to reject that wholeheartedly. And whether you're a Christian, libertarian,
593
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.880
anybody that wants that freedom, we're going to reject the
594
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:17.480
plans of these elitist because it's honestly, it's it's it's
595
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:20.759
going to bring about the downfall of humanity.
596
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:22.519
Wouldn't be the first.
597
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:27.759
Time, No, No, it's sadly it would not be. I
598
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:30.960
mean history is filled with exactly what we're discussing right there.
599
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:36.400
These these tyrants that emerge and they have the utopian mindset.
600
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:39.480
You know, if you if you listen to or read
601
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.440
things that Hitler said, or Mao or Stalin or Lenin
602
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.480
or any of these guys, they have this utopian mindset.
603
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.000
But the end result was always death.
604
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:51.440
Well that's the thing, and.
605
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:52.960
I think maybe this is why I get out of
606
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politics and whatnot. There's only two things you can do.
607
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:00.960
You can either free people or control them. And controlling
608
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.720
people to force them to be good is still control.
609
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:05.559
But if you truly freed people.
610
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If you told them what they were, if you told
611
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:09.279
them what you know that they are a part of God,
612
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:11.920
would they do half the things that they do right
613
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:17.000
now if they weren't like atheists all that other stuff like. So,
614
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.519
I believe in freeing people. I don't want to control people.
615
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I think if people knew the truth, they would behave differently.
616
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And yeah, I think that's a huge problem that people
617
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fall into, that you're a good guy, but you're still
618
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:28.559
trying to control people.
619
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At the end of the day, You're absolutely right.
620
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I gotta apoluse to Mindy. I apologize, we have that heartbreak.
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I hate doing that to guess, but hate ladies and gentlemen.
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Mindy's going to be with us another fifteen minutes. This
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is Caleb Callier with Church and State Don Media.
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This is gentlemen.
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Mindy Robinson. And Mindy, I apologize. I hate cunning people
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off because it's there's so much great information out there.
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So please continue with what you were saying.
668
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I remember what I was saying to you.
669
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Basically, I mean, you're right, you were talking about control
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and controllers is freedom. And so if somebody, even if
671
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they are acting in a benevolent manner, you're still a control,
672
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:52.880
You're still a tyrant.
673
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:56.960
Yeah, And I think that's the problem that we're looking
674
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at and of course the alternative is with anarchy is what.
675
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.799
I don't know. I get like, you shouldn't kill people,
676
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:06.720
it shouldn't rob people.
677
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:09.559
But like the but jillion rules and laws we have
678
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online and fees and registries.
679
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.480
Those don't need to exist. Those are just enriching a
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corrupt system. I think we could. We're absolutely capable of
681
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regulating ourselves.
682
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And I think a huge problem will never find peace
683
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as long as we're fighting for it.
684
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It's like screaming for silence. It's just not how it works.
685
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That's a really good way of putting it. Screaming screaming
686
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for silence.
687
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:31.359
I like that.
688
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:33.839
In fact, maybe that's the name of the show, Chris
689
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screaming for silence.
690
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:37.519
But yeah, you're you're right, we do.
691
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.359
I mean, the vast majority of us, we have that
692
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in our DNA right we can we can look around
693
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and we can say, uh, I shouldn't kill that person,
694
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and we have enough control self control to not act
695
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:51.720
upon that. We may hate that person, but we're not
696
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.680
going to go actively kill them. And so I agree
697
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:58.279
with you wholeheartedly that a more of an anarchy based
698
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:01.079
system and not the one that the media tries to
699
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:05.160
convince us of. Right, that anarchy is these Antifa people
700
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:08.440
that are throwing brickstra windows. Like, that's not anarchy, ladies
701
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:11.920
and gentlemen. Anarchy is just a lack of government, zero
702
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:13.799
governments that we can govern ourselves.
703
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:16.160
Yeah, everyone thinks it's.
704
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Going to turn into the purge, but whatever, Like we're
705
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:24.440
perfectly fine regulating ourselves. And I would dare say better off.
706
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:28.319
You know, the government. Why is our army even overseas?
707
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:30.599
Like all these questions that we have that I think
708
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.559
people are having now for the first time ever, I'd
709
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be having no government this point.
710
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.440
We were not voting our way out of this. We're
711
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not doing anything.
712
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.160
I'd be fine if we woke up tomorrow and something
713
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:43.400
happened to our world leaders and that the Aliens took them,
714
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:44.119
the Russians tooke them.
715
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I don't care what a great day that would be, Like, Okay.
716
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.039
Cool, I guess we'll just go back to normal, but
717
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just working less and paying less stuff.
718
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:52.759
I'm right there with you.
719
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I mean, every time we hear, you know, governments shut down,
720
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and everybody that the CNN folks, the Fox News folks
721
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.440
are all worried about the government shutdown, and I'm over here,
722
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.640
like bring it on. You know this sounds great like
723
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:06.599
shut it down.
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And no pay, shut it down and no pay, And
725
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:12.079
it's always like no pay for like the plea, but
726
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:14.200
it's never no pay for Congress or any of that stuff.
727
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:15.720
I say, you shut it, shut the whole thing down,
728
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do it? Do it? Make my day? Never open it
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back up.
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Nobody cares, nobody cares, No one's going to. Our biggest
731
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:25.920
fear would be way a land invasion, not America, because
732
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:27.759
we still have our guns. We never got rid of them.
733
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.440
That's why we never got rid of them. Good luck
734
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.559
taking over taxes, Like, what are you gonna do? You're
735
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:36.400
either destruct by everything in bombs, which makes it useless.
736
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:38.000
You wouldn't do that, or you're gonna try to do
737
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:39.519
a ground invasion, which you will fail.
738
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:40.480
You will fail.
739
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:42.440
Don't need government.
740
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:44.000
I completely agree with you.
741
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:45.960
I mean, if the government shut down, I don't think
742
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:47.359
most people would notice.
743
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:49.039
Life would continue.
744
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.680
And not only that, you'd allow the private industry to
745
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:57.759
go without regulations that are so burdensome. You'd allow them
746
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to step in and fill the void. And that that's
747
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.960
what every libertarian is talking about, is that the private
748
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:07.799
is way more capable of handling all of this, it's a.
749
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:09.639
Government shutdown first to do a dance.
750
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:11.039
Then I throw a party, and then I'd opened up
751
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:13.320
my own pothole fixing company for fifty bucks.
752
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:14.079
I fixed a.
753
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:16.320
Pothole for fifty bucks, and just keep going around, pop
754
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:17.480
hole in front of your house. I'll fix it for
755
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:19.599
fifty bucks, and you already got more done than the
756
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:21.280
government GA should do in ten years.
757
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.400
Do you remember when Dominoes was fixing potholes?
758
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:26.679
That was awesome.
759
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.280
I was like, yes, right there, you're proving every libertarian
760
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:34.760
right that a private corporation, an entity could do it
761
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:36.159
better than the government was doing.
762
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.559
And why did they do it? It's a gimmick.
763
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.840
Guys, because they have all these you know, delivery drivers
764
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:42.960
out there that are wrecking their cars on these potholes.
765
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So Dominoes fix them and they put their little stamp
766
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.639
on it. Right there, it works. And I mean you
767
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:51.239
can go down the line of all these different things
768
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.719
that are so called public and how much better they
769
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:55.079
operate in the private.
770
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:59.639
Well, what's the government really supposed to do? Make sure
771
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:01.920
there's not poison in our food, poison in our air,
772
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.679
poison in our water that our kids are saying, why
773
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:06.719
are we paying any of this? I mean I don't
774
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.119
pay taxes. I don't make enough.
775
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:11.760
But like I expect a giant tax revolt, I just
776
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:14.280
don't do it. It isn't with half of us just
777
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:16.440
stop paying taxes, businesses and everything.
778
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.199
What are they gonna do anything they can do?
779
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:21.400
And the money system would collapse and we'd have to
780
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.400
barter with each other for our services and goods.
781
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:24.559
And I think I'd be fine.
782
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:28.039
With that, as as would I. But you also bring
783
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:29.840
up a really interesting point, because what is the government
784
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.320
supposed to do? You said, keep our food safe, don't
785
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:34.800
poison our water, don't poison our air, keep our kids safe,
786
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:38.519
except for the governments doing the exact opposite of that,
787
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:44.599
ladies and gentlemen. So maybe Mindy's saying we should remove
788
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:45.519
the government.
789
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:47.639
Replace it with something better.
790
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:49.559
Nothing.
791
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.800
What does a local community can't do, you know, come together,
792
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:57.119
like you know, John and Mike are having a fight.
793
00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:59.360
Okay, you know, air it out, figure it out at
794
00:35:59.360 --> 00:35:59.719
the pub.
795
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:04.079
I mean, really, what do we really really need from
796
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:11.039
the government that we weren't doing as colonies? Really? So, yeah,
797
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:13.480
they're supposed to keep us safe from like foreign wars,
798
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:14.519
and here we are starting them.
799
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.920
So I'm good. I'm good I'm paying for genocide.
800
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:20.079
Ever again, I'm good on unbombing school kids by accident
801
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:20.920
and no one gets.
802
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:22.400
In trouble, no one goes to jail. Then you wonder
803
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:23.960
why you have terrorists. I don't know. You kill their
804
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:24.599
entire family.
805
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:28.519
That's the perpetuation of the whole thing. And I think
806
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:32.679
people are saying it, and I don't know. I think
807
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:34.320
the key is to not everyone thinks you need a
808
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:34.800
civil war.
809
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:35.800
No, that's what they want.
810
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:38.000
They want us to fight each other, that's what they've
811
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:39.519
been setting up this entire time.
812
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:41.559
But we need a revolution. That doesn't even mean you
813
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:42.440
need to do violence.
814
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.239
It just means you stop participating in a corrupt system.
815
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:48.320
Just stop. Like I said, if half of us did it,
816
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:49.760
And how.
817
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.119
Uncomfortable do we have to be as a society before
818
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.559
we do that. How much more ridiculous can it be?
819
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:56.679
Because it's going to just continue to get more ridiculous
820
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.679
until just enough people say, you know what, I'm just
821
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:01.400
gonna squat ram and not pay anything.
822
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:02.960
And I think I'd be fine with that.
823
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.000
You know, the idea has a lot of merit. I
824
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.480
got to tell you, And you're right, about the Civil
825
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:12.880
War as well. I've advocated for this for a number
826
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.360
of years to not fall into their trap, because that
827
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.119
is exactly what they want because you hear, you know,
828
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.960
the more conservative side of things, and they're like, well,
829
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.239
there's no way the left can win this war. They
830
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:27.360
know that, Okay, they absolutely know that, but they still
831
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:28.920
they want you to kill them off. And then they
832
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.639
want to bring in the United Nations peacekeepers or whatever.
833
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:34.039
It looks like, maybe Israel now that we've merged with them,
834
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:36.320
and all of a sudden, you've got somebody that actually
835
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.199
knows what they're doing fighting against you.
836
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:39.360
Don't go that route.
837
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:43.280
It's that Ron Paul revolution with love right that was
838
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.000
written in it. You could see it during his campaign.
839
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:51.159
Just you love people, you stop fighting, You figure out
840
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.360
what you have in common, and come to the table.
841
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:54.960
As you said, you got to fight, figure it out
842
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.639
in a pub. That's a whole lot better of a world.
843
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:00.559
That's one I'd like to live in me too.
844
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:03.800
And when you look at me, the reason that there
845
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.519
are illegal immigrants here doing violent things is because we're
846
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:09.679
paying for them to be the reason anything that is
847
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:12.519
happening is because we're subsidizing our own destruction and it's
848
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.920
all a distraction, and I don't maybe a producer will know.
849
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.159
But like the Civil War are do you think it
850
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:21.360
was really fought to free the slaves?
851
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.559
Do you really think it was some kind of like
852
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:26.840
humanitarian mission where they went down and started murdering their
853
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.639
own countrymen and breaking their cities down.
854
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:30.599
And raping their women and stealing their food. Do you
855
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.360
think that was all done because it's the good of
856
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:32.920
their heart.
857
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:34.960
Or do you think it was designed to watch just
858
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:38.280
tear each other apart put ourselves in perpetual debt because
859
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:39.800
the banks were funding both sides, and.
860
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:41.480
Then they would just sweep in and take over the
861
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:44.880
entire country in nineteen thirteen. Exactly.
862
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:51.119
Oh yeah, I've reported on this subject myself. Huh, I've
863
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:55.239
reported on this subject myself. Absolutely, this is exactly you
864
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:57.960
really want to know the intentions behind the Civil war.
865
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.440
That's exactly what my guests just said. It was the
866
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:03.400
banks funding at all. And initially they funded the South
867
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:05.880
because they thought they could break this up much like
868
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.519
Europe and have every state be its own country, each
869
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:09.840
with a central bank inside of it.
870
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:11.480
So, yeah, the banks.
871
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:13.199
Look at the banks, ladies and gentlemen, you want to
872
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.159
know why almost every single war has ever been fought
873
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.079
looked to the banks. And I love the quote from
874
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:21.519
Norm MacDonald who said, you know, it says you're in
875
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:24.239
this history book that the good guys won every single time.
876
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:28.920
Like think about it, guys comedy, it's great. It points
877
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:29.480
to the truth.
878
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:32.840
Yeah, never matter of fact, we helped Stalin go on
879
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.239
and killt way more people than anybody. I mean, that's
880
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.480
that's our history, the history that is kind of true
881
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:43.360
and still just so rewritten, and so it is what
882
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:43.679
it is.
883
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:45.360
But I don't see it repeating.
884
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:48.400
I just don't see I think this whole internet thing
885
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.000
and social media was kind of like their other way
886
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.480
to control us, an it kind of backard because now
887
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:54.760
it's awesome a way for us.
888
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:57.760
To share information, and the information is going to be
889
00:39:57.760 --> 00:39:59.880
out there. They tried the censor and we lived through that.
890
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:03.320
There's really no censoring at some point. Once the people
891
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:06.400
are this distrustful of the news, who watches the news, Oh,
892
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.039
they didn't make fun of it or criticize it.
893
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:12.079
Who is watching any of this stuff? So I think
894
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:13.320
the great Awakening is upon it.
895
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:15.400
I think we're about to live for the most exciting
896
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.480
time that ever was, and I'm looking forward to here quite.
897
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:23.239
Honestly, Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I am looking
898
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.400
forward to this along those lines, the Great Awakening. I
899
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:28.519
want to ask you a question that some of my
900
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.039
audience may not like, but they should be used to
901
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:33.280
me by now because I'm certainly no fan.
902
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:34.920
Where do you stand on Trump?
903
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:37.280
You know?
904
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:39.840
I wrote it from three times I stood by him.
905
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:41.679
I was a speaker on the Capitol, I got my
906
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:46.239
I visit. I really wanted if he had only done
907
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:47.760
the things he had promised.
908
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:48.760
This term, and he didn't.
909
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.400
I do not like the insider trading. I do not
910
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:53.480
like the big coin scams. I don't like the Trump
911
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:57.079
phone scam. I don't like trying on a play way
912
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.400
he did that with Israel. I mean, I don't like
913
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:03.239
that is son just married Epstein's banker's daughter. I don't
914
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:07.239
like his daughter is married to Jared Weazel Kushner. Why
915
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.760
is that guy even around the White House? I don't
916
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:12.800
It's like it's not even the same guy. And I think,
917
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:14.760
unlike the left, where they seem to like just go
918
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.519
down with Biden in flames, I'm I'm gonna criticize your
919
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:18.719
Trump because I think it's it's.
920
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:20.360
This is not what we voted for. We vote for
921
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.400
no wars. We voted the government corruption, not an increase
922
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.960
of both. And I'm not gonna be silent about that.
923
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:28.320
I don't care.
924
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.840
Do you want to follow me for Okay, fine, I'm
925
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:32.639
not a sick fan. I'm not going to lick the
926
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:37.320
boots that are oppressing me. And so you know my series,
927
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:41.480
it's not even him. They either compromised him to Kingdom come,
928
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.599
or they like kay altered him, or they just killed
929
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:46.360
or replaced him with how many bidens did we have,
930
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:49.159
the six foot four Biden being my favorite? It was
931
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:50.800
not easy to place that guy like six or eight
932
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.000
times or whatever was going on. What's to say they
933
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.920
didn't just take him out? And I'm trying to pinpoint
934
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:57.719
exactly when it happened. I don't know if it was Butler,
935
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.159
which didn't have the way of saying, but some thing
936
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:03.400
happened where his entire thing changed. And I don't see
937
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.440
a guy who's a narcissist and who loves his ego
938
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:08.519
would suddenly crop on his base that got him there.
939
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:11.159
That's just something people with egos don't do that their
940
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:14.840
base is everything and so something happened.
941
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:16.920
It's not the same person, and I'm not going to
942
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:19.000
stand by and pretend it is one way or the other.
943
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:23.519
I think that's incredibly well said and really vocalizes where
944
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:24.840
I stand on this whole thing.
945
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.159
I only voted for him once he got me. But
946
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:29.920
it is a different Trump.
947
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:31.960
It's not the same Trump that we that we fell
948
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:34.239
in love with in twenty sixteen that we thought, hey,
949
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.840
we finally can have an outsider getting into this political
950
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.079
machine and start dismantling it. So I think you bring
951
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.159
up some really good points. Another question for you on
952
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:46.800
this one, because this is another one that divides a
953
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:49.559
lot of people. What are your thoughts on bitcoin.
954
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:55.000
I don't understand it. I really don't. I like somewhere
955
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:56.760
in gold. I want to pull something in my hand.
956
00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:59.440
I don't want to be a lost password away or
957
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.000
losing absolutely everything I have. It seems just as imaginary
958
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:06.679
as our dollar, which is no longer backed by boulder
959
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:07.639
or anything value.
960
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:09.920
So I know people are crazy about it.
961
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:12.639
They change to me just a digital currency, and I
962
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:16.199
don't trust it. I would rather have canned goods and
963
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:22.239
gasoline and diesel and gold and silver and things tangible
964
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:26.199
value and as many times as people are trying to
965
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:28.440
explain to me it is a busting or I don't care,
966
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:29.239
I really don't.
967
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:33.159
It just seems like one another.
968
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:36.960
Yeah, once again, you and I are in complete agreement
969
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:41.440
on that one. I've looked into it. I see nefarious
970
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.800
means behind it. I see us getting involved in a
971
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.679
cryptocurrency that's ultimately controlled by governments. I think they're going
972
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:51.719
to pull the rug out of the bitcoin.
973
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:51.880
And.
974
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:55.599
Governments will step in and say we need a stable coin,
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we need something that is centrally backed, and there we go.
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We got a one world monetary policy that is not
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what I want to be a part of. Well, Mindy,
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it's been an absolute pleasure. I told you i'd only
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keep you for forty five minutes. You're you're currently dying
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any you have no air conditioning in your airstream, so
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you're in Vegas, so I want to be cognizant of that.
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But I want to push your social media's. Obviously, you
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have a massive following on x that people can go to,
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and Chris, if you can bring that up, will show
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everybody where they can follow Mindy on x UH. And
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then there's also the website here that Chris is showing
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as well. Mindy, tell us a little bit about your
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website and why people should go there.
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Well, I got a little tired of politics that felt
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like it was a negative loop cycle that whatever I
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put my energy to do as.
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We can get more of. And I didn't want more
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on government corruption conspiracy. So me and my business partner,
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event Are we put together.
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Iamdinfinite dot Com and that's where you go to fond
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your pan is real or you know, little holistic things
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and just digging into the more positive side of life
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and spirituality and just trying to you know, I believe
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we get the energy, so I want to put out
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more positive do you do excellent?
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Well, I will encourage the audience to go to I
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Am the Infinite Infinite dot com go check it out,
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and also to follow Mindy on all the different social media.
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She's all over the place you could find her. But
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this is somebody that's that's pursuing the truth and I
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respect and appreciate that.
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Mindy.
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Once again, it's a pleasure to have you on the show.
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Thank you for all of your work at defending freedom.
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And I'm going to go ahead and close this out.
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If you hold on one more minute. Post production, Sarah goodbyes.
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I appreciate it, but again thanks for coming on the show,
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Thanks for having absolutely all right listen and gentlemen, there
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you go.
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