CLOCKWORK CARNAGE WAS A DUD, WWE STILL GOING TO SAUDI ARABIA, MONTEZ FORD SUED | TNT 169

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[UNKNOWN]: What is going on guys?
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you so very much for joining us right here on Tuesday night.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is Tuesday night tightens episode 169 for your Tuesday, October 20th, 2026, I'll be hosting you from New York.
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[UNKNOWN]: As always, join by the one and only, the man who I can guarantee you is not giving anybody a sexual lap dance, especially a security guard, a solemn answer.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's going on, brother.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, not a security guard, but I mean, you can't guarantee that I'm not giving anybody a sexual lap dance.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't like that boring.
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[UNKNOWN]: Come on.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to know about those, uh, those, uh, fiasco's.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's all legal.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's all legal, yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Get a couple of whiskey and coaxing them and who knows what one happened.
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[UNKNOWN]: I can't make any promises.
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[UNKNOWN]: I do a man.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a slow fucking week.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's a fall week in October.
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[UNKNOWN]: We are getting closer to Halloween, which is, uh, you know, my favorite time of year, but it's, it's very slow right now in the world of wrestling, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's just not a whole lot going on.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is very slow.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is very slow.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh, speaking of Halloween, have you picked up on Crystal Lake yet?
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[UNKNOWN]: No, it's on my watch list.
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[UNKNOWN]: I have not had time to start yet, but I've had a lot of people ask me that question.
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[UNKNOWN]: Have you watched it?
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[UNKNOWN]: Have you watched it?
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[UNKNOWN]: Have you watched it?
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[UNKNOWN]: I've not watched it yet, but I am planning on it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking forward to breaking into it.
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[UNKNOWN]: All right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, uh, our friend of the podcast, John Draper, Mr. Kevin Castles brother, he actually, I've seen his tweet.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said it was pretty decent.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, uh,
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[UNKNOWN]: He's a he's an opinion that I would take seriously.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I actually want to watch that too.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not really a big Friday the 13th guy like this guy is, but it did seem interesting.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I was like the way those those types of shows are shot.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's Halloween too.
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[UNKNOWN]: I need something cool to watch.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, again, it's the first piece of Friday the 13th material, really, that we've had since 2009, because there hasn't been any new movies and so on, so I think people who are fans of it are just starved for it, and maybe there'll be a little kind or two, but even if it's not great, I'm hoping, I'm hoping it's at least decent.
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[UNKNOWN]: So if he says it's decent, then hopefully it's decent.
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[UNKNOWN]: We will see.
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[UNKNOWN]: Did you go see Wellville?
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh no.
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[UNKNOWN]: No.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, I got it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I told you, other mommy just sowered me.
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[UNKNOWN]: I had to take a break from the movies for a week.
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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't see Street Fighter.
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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't see well fall.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm going back this week.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'll see Clayface, but no, I didn't see them.
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[UNKNOWN]: Actually, I've had a lot of people telling me about that new documentary that's out on Elizabeth Holmes.
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[UNKNOWN]: I thought you were talking about Man Mountain Rock.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, that's a different documentary.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, but they're saying good things about that one too.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's kind of a nut job.
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[UNKNOWN]: She used to run her own, I think it was like a pharmaceutical company and she's a real piece of work.
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[UNKNOWN]: But like, I saw, I think the trailer for it.
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[UNKNOWN]: It looked like I couldn't even tell, look like a comedy at first, but it was like very uncomfortable, but no, it's an actual documentary, and everybody is raving about it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I may have to see if I can, I could find a place that's that's showing it.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's in the movies right now.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I may have to go see that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Interesting.
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[UNKNOWN]: What's the link?
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[UNKNOWN]: Drama, horror, esk, maybe?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it looks, it looks kind of horror.
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[UNKNOWN]: I ask if you didn't watch the trailer.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think she went to jail and maybe she, or maybe it was right before she was going to jail.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember.
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[UNKNOWN]: But this guy, you know, he kind of, you know, gets this, this level of access to her.
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[UNKNOWN]: I guess.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's very uncomfortable.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's just very uncomfortable.
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[UNKNOWN]: She doesn't seem like she's all there.
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[UNKNOWN]: She seems like a serial killer is what she's not asleep.
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[UNKNOWN]: but this is a real person this is not it's not a movie it's a documentary yeah so i'm intrigued no way you gotta keep the up on that i like that type of stuff
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... but we will get into all your wrestling related needs tonight guys uh... a lot has uh... happened in the last few weeks coming into money in the bank and ever since money in the bank and nothing's been happening uh... rest room happened a lot of nothing happened on that show uh... wasn't like bed but i mean it's just
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[UNKNOWN]: It's just boring.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's no real.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's no real substance there.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, we'll talk about the clockwork carnage match and the first adaptation of Will Osprey's clockwork carnage does it work on a. W. Will we see it again?
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[UNKNOWN]: Do you want to see it again?
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Eli is right going off.
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[UNKNOWN]: He made his debut.
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[UNKNOWN]: Not in ring.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's happening on Wednesday.
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[UNKNOWN]: He made his
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[UNKNOWN]: debut for a w on Saturday at Russell dream great presentation excellent theme music.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we'll talk about what he said at the postural media screen and again today with Ariel Huanie so we'll talk about him and he he will be making his in-ring debut on dynamite tomorrow night.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes, too.
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[UNKNOWN]: Tony, he's probably right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, be ball Mike Bailey.
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[UNKNOWN]: Is that is that announced?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Tony's uping the quality of opponents, I see.
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[UNKNOWN]: I was expecting one of the rascals.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, look, I mean, binary or there would have been great, too.
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[UNKNOWN]: But speedball was just in the main event for the World Championship.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it's a caliber of opponent that, you know, it was a little bit higher than you would normally see for one of these things.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, over, over on, on how long they go?
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[UNKNOWN]: 18 minutes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, and I won't say 18.
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[UNKNOWN]: I probably like in the range of like 15.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm excited to see him work.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be great.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about him for sure.
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[UNKNOWN]: The bigger question is will he get through a match without bleeding?
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[UNKNOWN]: And I don't mean like moxely bleeding, but like he's so intense that whenever you would see him in this even in WWE when the match was over, he'd have a little bit of blood over his eye and mouth would be bloodies and those would be like can he get through this match?
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[UNKNOWN]: I feel like he's he's got all of this
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... it would be impossible for him to come out of this match without some some some hint that you know he was whether it was like his bruises or blotter something because he's just such an intense guy so i'm looking forward to it that's going to be good every time he wrestled he was as red as an apple him a shameless they look like they they they walked to the arena gotten to a fucking street fight with about six or seven thugs and then and i went to work for the night and say i don't believe shameless but he
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so there's nothing he could do about that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, shame is could have bump into a door and he'll have like a big red well to on him.
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[UNKNOWN]: But Dragon of it's just he just doesn't have, there's only one speed.
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[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't know any other way, you know, he's just a very intense person.
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[UNKNOWN]: Even when he went backstage, after he went backstage, they shot something and he was talking in the back.
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[UNKNOWN]: And all he did was come out right in just pose for the karate one backstage a dripping sweat You would think you just had a match.
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[UNKNOWN]: You had a fucking suit on like, okay, he has even wrestled the end.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's already dripping sweat his one speed is fuck you up.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's what that's what his speed is.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be great.
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[UNKNOWN]: we'll talk about him on the WWE side of things we don't really have much Roman actually came to work on Monday for the how many times in that adjacent of like 43, 44 times this year he's returned something like that yes he finally showed that he gives a shit about his family so we'll talk about that 946 bloodline semi-enrollment in the open of Monday night
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[UNKNOWN]: And I don't even have words in my language that could justify how awful this show was.
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[UNKNOWN]: The absolutely abysmal Friday night snack.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we'll briefly go over the Cody and Randy stuff and whatever else didn't happen on that show.
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[UNKNOWN]: I got Goonther news for you guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: Frustrations around Goonther's creative in the writing room.
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[UNKNOWN]: Who the fuck's writing the show is what I want to know?
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[UNKNOWN]: Who's frustrated?
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[UNKNOWN]: talk when you hear reports that even the people writing the shows are frustrated with the writing the shows that that tells you something with the folks allow in the shit on television be mad at that guy we'll talk about that and saw the rabie crown jewel is still on we got news on that and Montes Ford
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[UNKNOWN]: He's being sued and I got the story on that few guys and that will conclude TNT So we'll get into all that stuff tonight.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you guys again if you're joining us get I want to thank you as does Jason for the tremendous support the last three or four weeks You guys have killed it with the views
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, it's funny the weather gets colder and I got my shorts on.
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[UNKNOWN]: So we're doing so we're doing some more of those on the channel just some extra kind of different content over there.
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[UNKNOWN]: So make sure you're subscribed and you never know what a new short may pop up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe I'll do one after I see clay face on Thursday.
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[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
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[UNKNOWN]: A lot of theater reaction thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we'll do that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Brando episode of the Uncrowned Wrestling Show is up, even though it's against a slow news week, but I managed to find certain things that I didn't cover on Sunday that I covered today, uh, somebody actually, uh, former WWE and AEW technically, AEW star retired this past week.
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[UNKNOWN]: And now it's his retirement.
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[UNKNOWN]: Get out of here.
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[UNKNOWN]: And not I'm not talking about Adam Copeland.
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[UNKNOWN]: Zach Gowan.
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[UNKNOWN]: now says retirement.
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[UNKNOWN]: Really?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, you just got the dark side of the ring treatment this season.
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[UNKNOWN]: Wow, he's been, uh, he's been like, uh, not a real big feature on Maple Leaf Pro, but he's been on at least three episodes that I've watched.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if you look at his cage match, I mean, he's been working pretty consistently throughout the year.
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[UNKNOWN]: And, uh, yeah, he announced his, his retirement from the ring and, I mean, hey, you know, for guy who, I don't know that anybody would have expected even probably people who knew him when he was younger, who would have said, yeah, this guy's going to be a wrestler.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, he went out and made it happen.
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[UNKNOWN]: Respect to him.
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[UNKNOWN]: I know he flamed out there early in his career.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was too much, too soon.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was very, he was a teenager when they signed him.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I think he, I think he did pretty well for himself.
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[UNKNOWN]: He did a lot more than anything.
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[UNKNOWN]: A lot of people ever expected he would be able to achieve.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's uh, that's that's great.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, more, more roles constantly said every time he made an appearance on Maple Leaf Pro, he's one of the more influential, uh, one of the most influential guys that he has had the pleasure of calling matches for.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, uh, that's that's good to, uh, you know, he's doing good.
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[UNKNOWN]: And, uh, yeah, I remember seeing him on Maple Leaf Pro, he was actually still moving around incredibly well.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was teaming with Billy Gunn of all people, which was, which was a surprising to me.
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[UNKNOWN]: Who's, who's still moving around pretty well for a guy who's what's 60?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, doing what he does.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, now he, um, it's funny, like he said in his statement on social media that his favorite match of his entire career.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think about the people that he's worked with, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, when he came in, he was working with Vince and Hogan and Piper and all those guy and Brock and right people like that.
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[UNKNOWN]: But he said his favorite match in his entire career was the AW match he had last year with Ricochet.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because I guess his wife was there, his family was there, his parents were there.
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[UNKNOWN]: So for him, that's the match that he looks to as his favorite and the best from his entire career.
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[UNKNOWN]: That was a pretty cool match.
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[UNKNOWN]: Honestly.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was good.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was a one-off, but still.
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[UNKNOWN]: Technically, he did wrestle for AW.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, so we'll get into that stuff tonight, guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: Again, thank you all for the tremendous support.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thumbs up, comments, that all helps us out so much.
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[UNKNOWN]: So please go and do that if you can.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then Super Chats, they are open, Jason, and I will hang out at the end of the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's always any questions, comments, concerns.
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[UNKNOWN]: Jokes, thoughts, opinions, anything you guys want to ask us.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll hang out with you guys at the end of the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: All right, my friend, what do you want to talk about?
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, anything, but wrestling now.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh, yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's the way I feel on it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I kid, I kid, I kid.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, like you mentioned the, the Montez Ford thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: And why don't we start there?
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[UNKNOWN]: What will start with the, the legal stuff, because this became a thing this week, even though the incident that this is centered around happened in the summer.
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[UNKNOWN]: It happened in July and we're hearing about it now because this lawsuit was filed.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's kind of a crazy story when you really think about it and you see the footage.
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[UNKNOWN]: So what Jason is alluding to is a July 6th episode of Montana Raw, security guard who worked the July 6th episode of Raw has filed a lawsuit against WWE and Montes for alleging that Ford performed and I quote, a sexualized lap dance on him during the street profits entrance.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, I haven't gone back and watched this, but I remember watching it live.
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[UNKNOWN]: I saw, I saw it happen as it happened.
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[UNKNOWN]: then they cut away to commercial and I didn't really think much of it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I wasn't really fixated on the on the guy of the security guy's facial expressions, but I did notice that he was not very happy at one point.
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[UNKNOWN]: He looked very like, I'll get the fuck away from me.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, he wasn't whipping out dollar bills.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: To stick in Montez's belt.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was very like stone-faced.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was trying to know sell it.
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[UNKNOWN]: But you could tell.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like you just watch it.
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[UNKNOWN]: You could tell how uncomfortable he was.
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[UNKNOWN]: at like a one point he kind of looks over to somebody else maybe one of the other security guards as if to say like get a load of this shit like you know what's going on here he was just it was the length of time that it went on for it wasn't like five seconds you know the pelvic thrust and then he goes about his business like it's like he had a target and he he was bound and determined to try to crack this guy that's what it felt like that's what it's not like in
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[UNKNOWN]: but you would watch it in the thing like he must have glued this guy in or somebody must have glued this guy in and it's like, I don't think it's really not.
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[UNKNOWN]: No.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, apparently not.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, this comes from Brandon Thorsten of post wrestling.
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[UNKNOWN]: The incidents were placed on the July 6 episode, which had live on Netflix and I don't know, did they remove the the the incident from the replay?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's not there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... so this was in uh... chicago uh... all state arena in rose money profits came out uh... they were the taketeen champions at that point and they want to lose to the vision uh... which was all sentarian brom break according to the complaint loucus was working security at ringside
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[UNKNOWN]: And he says, a WWE employee told him to stand in that spot during the show or sit in that spot.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was sitting when we watched this go down.
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[UNKNOWN]: The lawsuit claims that during the entrance for to begin performing a sexually provocative dance, immediately in front of an over, Lucas, repeatedly thrusting and jirating his hips and pelvis towards the plaintiff here.
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[UNKNOWN]: Lucas performing a sexualized lap dance.
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[UNKNOWN]: It also says Ford moved his body increasingly closer and continued the lap dance and that his left inner thigh repeatedly rubbed against Lucas' leg.
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[UNKNOWN]: The version of the episode currently on Netflix, like Jason said, is not showing this and then it cut to break early.
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[UNKNOWN]: The moment that we saw all this going down.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I remember that vividly.
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[UNKNOWN]: Lucas is a Cook County Sheriff's officer with a full-time job at a courthouse.
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[UNKNOWN]: He also supervises security guards from Monterey Security, which is how he became in the situation and working with WWE and worked as relevant.
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[UNKNOWN]: So the complaint says that the day after the show and this is the part where I actually let it's not funny, but this is funny and I don't believe this for a single fucking second.
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[UNKNOWN]: The complaint says that the day after the show members of the public at his courthouse job quote unquote mocked him thrusting their hips in his direction and then they were like.
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[UNKNOWN]: They were just performing Montez's sexual acts like it in a way to make fun of them towards him in the court.
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[UNKNOWN]: I can't believe that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know man.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's that's a little too far fetch for me.
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[UNKNOWN]: It says also his children were mocked and ridiculed at their school.
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[UNKNOWN]: Lucas says he suffered humiliation, embarrassment, and emotional distress.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like so many law enforcement officers missed the Lucas works in second job in order to provide better for his children.
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[UNKNOWN]: His attorney Whitney Bar said, Lucas is represented by Whitney Bar and Alex is Martin.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh, so the suit lists 14 counts, including assault, battery and intentional inflection of emotional distress.
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[UNKNOWN]: It also brings claims under the Illinois gender violence act and the Illinois right of publicity act.
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[UNKNOWN]: The latter over the use of his likeness in the broadcast, Lucas is seeking unspecified damages, legal costs along with an order barring WWE from using his identity.
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[UNKNOWN]: And these allegations made in a civil complaint.
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[UNKNOWN]: And none of the claims have been tested in court.
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[UNKNOWN]: WWE did not respond to post wrestling.
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[UNKNOWN]: A case management hearing is scheduled for December 10th.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, the one thing I noticed Jason about this is, I don't remember, Montez is very animated when he comes out.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I don't know if Montez knew if this guy was working for WWE or not.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he, like you mentioned, then I know you talked about this, try to get a pop out of him and try to make him like kind of crack a smile and the guy didn't budge.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why Montez just continued to go on and on and on and on to what seemed like a very long time.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was only making matters worse at that point.
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[UNKNOWN]: But in the end here, I'm assuming WWE is going to want to try and get rid of this like they always do with everything they throw money at it and make it disappear.
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[UNKNOWN]: This guy's going to get paid and they're going to move on from this and, well, wait for the next order to come out, but this was completely unnecessary.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: They'll pay him, they'll put this to bed, and that'll be the end of it.
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[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, Montez, just went on for so long that when you watch the video, it's like, yeah, this is kind of weird, you know, it's kind of uncomfortable, like, and he's right up in the guy's face.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I said, I'm buying, like, okay, this guy's an officer.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so who knows if he's armed, he's got like a taser.
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[UNKNOWN]: All he had to do was pull it out and zap him in the fucking balls or something.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that would, I mean, that would have been a raw moment right there.
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[UNKNOWN]: But he just, you know, tried to know, sell it as best he could.
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[UNKNOWN]: And clearly was not clued in about what was happening.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't believe that Montes, may have thought it was a WWE, they probably all know the WWE security people.
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[UNKNOWN]: and he doesn't work for WWE so there's no way I don't I don't buy the Montes though he might have been a WWE guy uh... whatever it was he just made this guy his target is like i'm gonna break them in
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[UNKNOWN]: They had commentary during this and Corey Graves said the same thing on commentary because the guy was no selling it and Graves is like, oh, don't worry, he doesn't like having fun, you're break them, keep trying I mean like that doesn't help their cause, you know, so yeah, this is this is gonna be settled at some point and they'll give them a little something and that'll be the end of it But yeah, I mean the guy's face it's his his face and identity and he's right there
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[UNKNOWN]: So I'm sure there were some people who saw this.
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[UNKNOWN]: It went viral on social media.
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[UNKNOWN]: Everybody was sharing the clip because it was so fucking weird.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't doubt that there were people who were making comments to them.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, what the hell was this?
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, what happened here, you know?
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[UNKNOWN]: And then they were in the courtroom, giant rating and thrusting their hits in front of the courtroom.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not a judge was getting up and shy, rating, I'm not saying that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I can believe that there were people including maybe friends of his who were kind of given him shit.
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[UNKNOWN]: And maybe some people said something, some kids were heckling his kids.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then his friends would come over that, yeah, man, how you doing?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't think he swung that way.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure there was some of that go what on.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the guy was like, you know what?
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it's time to engage with an attorney here.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so here we are.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, at the end of the day, the guy's going to get paid.
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[UNKNOWN]: Some people were thinking, Oh, Montez was going to get fined and suspended and he's going to get fired.
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[UNKNOWN]: Worst case of a list in bro.
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[UNKNOWN]: They are not firing the husband of Bianca Belair.
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[UNKNOWN]: Are you out of your fucking mind?
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[UNKNOWN]: Come on now.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're not taking action regardless of whether he's with Bianca Belair or not.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to, it's not going to escalate to that point.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like I said, they'll make it quietly go away and that'll be the end of it because that's what they do.
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[UNKNOWN]: throw money at the problem and money talks that people get real quiet and that's a Vince got away with everything for so many years throw money at it you know that's how we solve many of his problems many of his pride he had a a certain what I mean a few years ago with MLW there was a certain lawsuit that was filed against him in that company right that could have been very embarrassing and very damaging for WWE once it got
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[UNKNOWN]: and they paid them $20 million to put an end to it.
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[UNKNOWN]: That was an anti-trust lawsuit.
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[UNKNOWN]: That could have been very, very bad.
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[UNKNOWN]: I always say Vince is the greatest magician that ever lived.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's made so many things disappear.
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[UNKNOWN]: For a money out of it.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's his number one trick.
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[UNKNOWN]: Goodbye.
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[UNKNOWN]: Huh?
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[UNKNOWN]: What does that make Janelle Grant?
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[UNKNOWN]: She made him a That's true man.
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[UNKNOWN]: She she may have used serpents with a man.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, not like we're a I guess we're in a better state creatively now, but not by much I don't I wish we were better off, but There are still people out there begging for this man's return, which I I just will never understand and it will never happen so keep dreaming Crown jewel
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[UNKNOWN]: This was the next big story this week.
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[UNKNOWN]: State Department warns Americans in Middle East again after more Saudi airport attacks.
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[UNKNOWN]: Don't travel.
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[UNKNOWN]: So now we are basically up to a level four.
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[UNKNOWN]: Do not travel.
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[UNKNOWN]: United State Department, State Department told Americans in the Middle East on Monday to exercise heightened vigilance, citing attacks on civilian airports in Saudi Arabia, crown jewel, a set for November 7th, at Riyadh, season and stadium in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
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[UNKNOWN]: Stadiums that constructed yet, but some people were talking about this in my chat room over the last couple of nights.
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[UNKNOWN]: J.D.
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[UNKNOWN]: the stadiums that built yet, it doesn't matter.
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[UNKNOWN]: They built the one that housed the Royal Rumble in five days.
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[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't really matter that they'll wait till the very last moment to build this act as they do.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, we saw this at the beginning of the year.
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[UNKNOWN]: People were saying the same thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, this is what are they going to do?
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[UNKNOWN]: The building is not done yet.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then it magically got done.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that's not going to be an issue.
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[UNKNOWN]: Americans currently in the Middle East should exercise heightened vigilance due to the complex security environment, be aware of potential flight cancellations, airspace closures and travel disruptions, state departments travel gov account on X said.
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... so re-auds international airport re-opened on sunday has been closed following attacks but many international airlines are still not flying there the u.s. embassy in re-aud told americans to avoid airport after or avoid the airport after the attacks on october 10th as of this writing WWE has not announced any change to crown jewel and
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[UNKNOWN]: with everything that's going on there.
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[UNKNOWN]: We have the cannello box in fight going on.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's getting paid 40 million Halloween.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's going.
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[UNKNOWN]: Dana White's bringing UFC there.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's like, nope, we're going and WWE hasn't said a fucking word.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's this operating business as normal and crown jewel as of now will be taking place over there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and everything else is either being postponed or canceled because there are multiple other events.
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[UNKNOWN]: There was a FIFA event that was, I think, postponed until next year.
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[UNKNOWN]: There was, I think, I was at golf golf for tennis.
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[UNKNOWN]: I didn't golf event that was canceled.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then there was a popular music, like an EDM music festival that's very big in the Middle East.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that is usually hosted over there.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's been, I think, delayed until next year.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, wow.
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[UNKNOWN]: So a bunch of things that mean you have people that have common sense and they're like, you know what, let's just wait and we'll do this next year or let's just cancel and we'll circle back and hopefully things are better next year.
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[UNKNOWN]: But not these guys, not TKO because they got their money to make and they don't want to upset the apple cart and so unless someone explicitly comes to them and says, you are not allowed to go, they're going to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so if there are any wrestlers who don't want to go, they have mouths, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: I would hope that they speak up.
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[UNKNOWN]: If they really genuinely do, if they're genuinely concerned about their safety or their families are, I would hope they speak up and say something, but it would take.
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[UNKNOWN]: the collective of them one or two of them is not going to make a difference it would take the collective of them and as we've seen before when it comes to this sort of thing like that's just never going to happen yeah and it's got to be a Roman or punk or a Cody you know guys like that yeah one of them I mean Roman look you can't do crown jewel if let's say Roman right or even Sammy or somebody
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[UNKNOWN]: doesn't want to do the show because they're pretty important part of the show the whole point of the show is championing against champions if you had some of those champions along with other people on the undercard who were supposed to be on the show who are like we don't want to go and you can't force us to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well then they have to make a decision don't they because you can't put the show on I mean I guess technically if they wanted to they could but this is not going to happen it's just not realistic they're not going to speak up they're not going to say anything will get these reports just like we did this past week
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll get these reports about employees, not even the talids.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've apparently have been voicing concerns internally about not wanting to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you're going to get these reports, but you're never going to hear that there was some sort of like collective uprising about, hey, that we're standing firm.
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[UNKNOWN]: We don't want to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to happen.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, short of that, they're going to go to Riyadh and all I hope is for everyone's sake.
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[UNKNOWN]: That, you know, there are no attacks, no more attacks between now and then, and they stay safe, and nothing bad happens.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because there was a statement that was put out.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember what government official was.
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[UNKNOWN]: But they said over the past month, the Riyadh airport.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's only one.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's one main commercial airport in Riyadh, which is the one I assumed
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[UNKNOWN]: and 17 people were killed, 330 people have been wounded.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, is this not insane to anybody else?
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[UNKNOWN]: Sounds like a dream vacation, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: You want a book of flight?
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[UNKNOWN]: Probably you can get a real treat.
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[UNKNOWN]: What is that flight look like?
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[UNKNOWN]: They ain't flying direct.
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[UNKNOWN]: They ain't flying like through London and the United Kingdom, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: They got to go around, don't they?
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: What's the air path look like for that trip?
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know where they might stop.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what the flight path.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what accommodations are made for them because I'm sure there are special accommodations or some sort of special flight that they charter for these trips.
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[UNKNOWN]: I remember the story about one of those Saudi trips years ago where everyone thought they were being held hostage.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: They had the one plane for the talents.
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[UNKNOWN]: Something was going on.
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[UNKNOWN]: Vince was fighting with somebody about money they were owed and, you know, I want my money to have it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think him and a bunch of the the top people ended up getting out of plane and leaving and the fucking, all the other fucking talents are stranded there.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they're like, what the hell?
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[UNKNOWN]: Like if I was in that situation, I'd be pretty fucking nervous.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that was years ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know how it works now, but just the whole idea of this.
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[UNKNOWN]: First of all, this is a, this is such a pointless shit.
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[UNKNOWN]: Put the money aspect aside just for a second.
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[UNKNOWN]: The show itself is so fucking pointless.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right, I mean, this is such a waste of time.
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[UNKNOWN]: They've only announced two matches, there's two weeks to go.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not even talking about that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying the whole purpose and nature and theme of the show is built around this idea of champion versus champion.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Although none of their belts are on the line.
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[UNKNOWN]: So what they've done is they've created these big, goddy belts that we only see once a year.
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[UNKNOWN]: They pose with them, they get a ring, which we also don't see really after one week.
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[UNKNOWN]: We don't hear about the rings anymore, but you win the belt, and then they lock it away.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we don't see it again for another year, and it has no effect on storylines.
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[UNKNOWN]: It affects absolutely nothing.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is completely pointless.
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[UNKNOWN]: What it is is a money grab, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: They came up with a gimmick, and they get paid very handsomely for these shows, and I understand that.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's a lot of money.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's somewhere in the 50 to 60 million dollar range per show.
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[UNKNOWN]: I get it.
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[UNKNOWN]: but the show itself is pointless.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it will have no effect on any of the ongoing storylines.
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[UNKNOWN]: We have Roman Reigns and Sami Zayn.
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[UNKNOWN]: Roman Reigns has a bunch of shit going on right now on Raw.
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[UNKNOWN]: We saw more survivors of his bill last night that we see in the crowd you'll build.
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[UNKNOWN]: It felt like war games was two weeks away watching that show last night.
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[UNKNOWN]: This feels like let's just get this out of the way so we can get to the really important show.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so we're not even taught.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not saying that would justify it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like if this was WrestleMania, well, okay, it's WrestleMania.
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[UNKNOWN]: So put your helmets on and go over there.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the fact that this show is not even important, it's not even significant.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they're going over there for this.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they're risking their fucking lives for this is disgusting.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's ridiculous.
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[UNKNOWN]: Do you think that they want everybody to see, hey, look, we're going there.
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[UNKNOWN]: And when we go there and come back all safe and sound, look, it's safe that is this is this a way to like, promote, let's get people to go to WrestleMania.
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[UNKNOWN]: We want to show people, hey, it's safe for them.
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[UNKNOWN]: If we go over there, then it'll be all right by April.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, but nobody is going to WrestleMania from here.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, oh, they'll be somebody.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a very small percentage.
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[UNKNOWN]: Not even enough to register.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: By and large, nobody is going over there for WrestleMania.
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[UNKNOWN]: The people that will be over there for WrestleMania are the people who basically live there or live in the region.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's number one.
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[UNKNOWN]: Number two.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't think that's what's going on here.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think what's going on here is, did you see the tweet last week that Turkey Alashik,
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I did.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, about the heart times and you true friends and heart times type of stuff.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, he was talking about Canelo Alvarez.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said, I'm going over there no matter what for this fight.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's coming up on Halloween.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he said, though, the closing line of the tweet was something to the effect of, you know, hard time show you who your true friends are.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, that's not a message being sent, okay, to Ari and Mark Shapiro and all the people they're doing business with who might be on the fence about whether or not they should be coming over there for these shows.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was a message being sent that I just read that and I'm like, what a friend.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: If I had a friend who was up that mindset, who was like, oh, you know, times like this will show you who your real friends are.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know about you.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't have any friends.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, I don't think you would want me when you're up at JD Palace.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think you would want me to travel to JD Palace.
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[UNKNOWN]: If I can bombs and rockets and drones and missiles were hitting you, you would probably tell me, you know what, brother, stay home.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'd be like, thank you.
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[UNKNOWN]: I appreciate that.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's a true friend.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is not a friendship.
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[UNKNOWN]: I said this is a toxic relationship, is what this is.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's a relationship that they voluntarily wanted to be a part of because it's a big business for them, and it helps the stock price.
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[UNKNOWN]: But at what point do you kind of put that aside just for a moment and really look at it and go, this just ain't worth it, and I know that they contract apparently with an outside private security firm and they're certain measures they take, but you can't guarantee it.
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[UNKNOWN]: You can't guarantee that nothing's gonna happen.
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[UNKNOWN]: And when you know that there's a volatile situation
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[UNKNOWN]: a decision should come from the top that we're just not willing to take a chance with our people.
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[UNKNOWN]: And this really is very eye-opening as far as what they think of their people.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's how I see it.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're not my true friend, bro.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're not risking the one life that you have here on this earth, like sorry, sorry, bro.
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[UNKNOWN]: I value my life and the people that work around me, it's just, it's, it's, it's vile.
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[UNKNOWN]: These, these people are some of those vile people that you could ever imagine running a company.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that starts at the top with our Emmanuel and Mark Shapiro and, and everybody, that, that goes down the list that they're okay with this and.
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[UNKNOWN]: I wonder what is going to happen with the trust in the fan base how many more there's enough people that don't like them working with Saudi Arabia to begin with now this on top of the fucking the bombings and the war that's going over there and WWE now going over there in what is probably one of the more tumultuous times that they are going to be there.
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[UNKNOWN]: But what are the fan base going to think how many people are going to ban in the product not watch the product anymore or not watch it just out of straight principle nobody
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[UNKNOWN]: You're going to watch anyway.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're going to watch.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, we're going to watch and it's our job, but even the people who aren't content creators or don't make a living off of covering wrestling, that's the reality is like.
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[UNKNOWN]: And this has kind of been a thing now for for many, many years where the only thing I could think of where there were probably genuinely fans, actually two things that were genuinely probably abandoned the product and fell off, one was the end of the whole Monday night war period.
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[UNKNOWN]: You did have a lot of wrestling fans who left and they just didn't come back, but also after the band was stuff.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, I actually had a friend who was watching wrestling at that time also.
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[UNKNOWN]: I was around the time I started the sound of and that whole situation just completely turned him off to just wrestling in general and he just stopped watching.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I wonder how many people may have been like that because that was, I mean, that was a tough, even as a wrestling fan, that's just a tough thing to kind of wrap your head around.
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[UNKNOWN]: Outside of that, there are very few instances I could think of.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're bad things have happened or it just comes up so scummy.
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[UNKNOWN]: Or even when they first announced the Saudi deal and people made a big deal about it because it wasn't that long after the Kishogi stuff.
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[UNKNOWN]: And people say a lot of things at the end of the day, most of them probably just kept on watching.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like it would take a lot to get people to be like, all right, that's it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm done.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
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[UNKNOWN]: If Vince walked out on the show this week,
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't doubt there would be some people who might do that, but by and large, people keep watching, they would keep watching, even if they were disgusted by the man's presence, they would still watch.
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[UNKNOWN]: They'd be in the front row, given them the fucking, uh, bow down to the street, oh yeah, they'd be bowing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Mr. Man.
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[UNKNOWN]: It takes, it would take a lot.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I mean, you say these things, but the reality is, and I think they know this.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's probably why they just do it anyway, because they know that these people aren't going anywhere.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Think of the periods we've gone through in 2018 and 2019, all the terrible television, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: The people who stuck around, I mean, this got to be something wrong with us, and you could lump us in here in there too, like we all have to have something wrong with us in our brains that even after some of those awful dreadful years that we still stuck with it, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: And we still continue to watch it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I guess hoping it would get better.
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[UNKNOWN]: but there's just some mentality to, and maybe it's not just wrestling fans, maybe it's fans of certain sports franchises, and that's fan, why do you do it?
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, why do you keep watching?
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I could tell you why I watch.
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[UNKNOWN]: I could tell you why we both watch.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're in the fucking absolutely dismal periods that were 18, 19 going into the fucking pandemic, or because we knew coming out of it if we stuck with it and we were on that boat and we seen all the good and the bad and the ugly
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[UNKNOWN]: When it actually got really good, we were there to experience it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that good is going to feel really good.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because we experience all that fucking bed.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's why Jason's a met fan.
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[UNKNOWN]: When the meds win the world series, whenever that happens, how you think he's going to feel?
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[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be at the fucking parade.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be buying the merch.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be fucking waving the flag.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's what happens.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean watch.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I won't be because I'll probably be in my rocker and I won't be able to move at that point of my cane.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, I used to say on the podcast years ago, people would ask me like when it was really bad.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like those dark days are like, why?
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[UNKNOWN]: Why do you keep watching?
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[UNKNOWN]: We get that now.
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[UNKNOWN]: We get it.
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[UNKNOWN]: We do.
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[UNKNOWN]: We get it now, but the answer I used to give people was it was the two ages.
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[UNKNOWN]: I used to say it was habit and hope.
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[UNKNOWN]: I watched it out of habit and I hope it's going to get better.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that really hasn't changed.
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[UNKNOWN]: I watch it at a habit, I mean, it's a little bit different now because again, I'm in the middle of it covering it all the time, but like I watch it out of habit, and I hope it's going to get better because I know it can.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's frustrating when it doesn't.
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[UNKNOWN]: So something's never changed.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's why we watch Shatt and throw the people a little bit of your stuff watching so negative.
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[UNKNOWN]: No.
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[UNKNOWN]: No.
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[UNKNOWN]: Number one's our job.
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[UNKNOWN]: Number two, we just gave you a very good explanation as to why we don't stop watching.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's my favorite thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like God forbid you watch one week.
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[UNKNOWN]: You watch an episode of Raw that you don't like.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe you're someone who always likes Raw.
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[UNKNOWN]: But one week.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh man.
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[UNKNOWN]: That was a really bad episode.
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[UNKNOWN]: You'll have the prayer.
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[UNKNOWN]: What the hell, but you don't watch it if you're just going to cry out there a little bit, yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, my favorite, go find a real job, J.D.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay, you come do what I do, you come do what we do here, okay?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, that's what my favorite.
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[UNKNOWN]: Go find a real job, now you go find a real fucking job, eh?
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[UNKNOWN]: Don't watch it man, yeah, it's so stupid.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was great.
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[UNKNOWN]: What do you think about the employees who voice their concerns about what Meltzer say?
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[UNKNOWN]: You think those people that voice their concerns are going to have any repercussions at all because I know some people are according to him spoke up, but are those people going to look down upon now that they actually spoke up and not want to go over there?
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it's that they spoke up.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, my in reading it, I think it was more like there's been internal chatter like among the employees.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it was a case where the reports of the employees went to management and voice their concerns.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, he said not one rest was set a word.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that would be repression.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said there would be repercussions if someone on the roster that speak up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, and think about the absurdity of that number one.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's his opinion.
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[UNKNOWN]: He may be right, but again, this is one of those times I think words like he's giving his opinion on what he thinks, what happened if they spoke up, he may not be wrong, but this is why to go back to what we said before.
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[UNKNOWN]: If there are enough people who are genuinely uncomfortable with this, who work for that company and are expected to travel there and be on that trip next month.
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[UNKNOWN]: then they owe it to themselves to speak up, but it can't just be a couple of people.
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[UNKNOWN]: And until you get people who actually are a big enough deal to kind of also speak up and kind of, you know, stand up themselves and say, yeah, you know what, we don't like this this time, we're going to, we're going to sit this one out.
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[UNKNOWN]: Then of course, if, if one person low on the totem pole speaks up, yeah, they probably, you'll get some dirty looks.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, they may get some heat over it, which is absurd, but you need there to be this kind of collective ground swell.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's not going to happen.
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[UNKNOWN]: What are you kidding?
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[UNKNOWN]: No.
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[UNKNOWN]: Please, I would say like that.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's why you'll never have a wrestling union and now there's probably less of a reason for it because they do, I mean, I think by and large, they get paid better now than they did years ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: So the time to do it probably would have been years ago, but like you're never gonna have anything like that because you can't get the collective to come together and agree that this is what we, it is in our best interest that we all get together and do this.
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[UNKNOWN]: And if that never happened,
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[UNKNOWN]: Look, everyone's got their own self interest.
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[UNKNOWN]: They got their cushy spots.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like, do I really want to rock the boat and risk this?
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[UNKNOWN]: I got a five year deal.
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[UNKNOWN]: I make over a million dollars a year and I got my own bus or I'm doing this and that.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like, you know, hey, keep your mouth shut.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's the attitude.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's a sense I get.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's, that's awful.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I still low key hope that something will change in the next two weeks, but more than likely chat, it's not gonna happen.
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[UNKNOWN]: And 12 Eastern on November 7th, crown jewel, Riyadh.
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[UNKNOWN]: We move from that to I'm not going to spend much time on this because this was fucking one of the absolute worst shows of the year Especially following a paper view on Friday night smack the smack that was fucking awful in every sense of the word I'm I'm also over the Cody Rose Randy wasn't stuff.
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[UNKNOWN]: I absolutely Shit, I'm over.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm over.
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[UNKNOWN]: I can't take anymore.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's the same shit every week.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like I'm listening to the same fucking record But at least the songs I listen to I actually enjoy
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, we'll start with it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, we'll start.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll start at the top.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sammy and trick Williams.
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[UNKNOWN]: What do you think of a trick?
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[UNKNOWN]: I said this on my end.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sammy, trick Williams, they've been going at it kind of, you know, shots back of Fortune's Russell Mania.
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[UNKNOWN]: Trick up title at Russell Mania, he'd be Sammy Zayn.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's the United States Champion, two time United States Champion.
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[UNKNOWN]: He goes into money in the bank.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's competing amongst five of the guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: and he's coming out of the paper view, he's still the United States champion and instead of focusing on maybe finding him a new opponent for the United States champion, or champion champion being the United States champion and building up his resume as the champion.
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[UNKNOWN]: They're putting him in potentially a main event level scenario with Sami Zane.
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[UNKNOWN]: So do you think come out of this that WWE is kind of pushing back on his United States title run and maybe just want to focus him into the already eight nine loaded at the top going after the WWE title, what do you make about?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't really understand it because we already have a lot of people at the top of the card who are gunning for Sami Zayn, and so trick Williams now being inserted into this feels like it's overkill, and it feels like he's got his own thing going on with his title, he should be focused on that.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know, I don't know if this ends with him getting a title match or if they want you to think that and somebody is going to pop up here at some point and then they're going to kind of branch off in a US title feud, which would be fine.
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[UNKNOWN]: But on the surface, I'm like, I don't really know why we're going back to this right now.
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[UNKNOWN]: It just feels like this is not the time for it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I just wish that they would focus on his title and start building someone else up to take him on.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't really understand why.
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[UNKNOWN]: Him and Johnny had a decent match.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it would be very difficult.
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[UNKNOWN]: Have a bad match with Johnny Gargano.
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[UNKNOWN]: I thought they worked pretty well together.
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[UNKNOWN]: But trick Williams got the win there and Johnny is paired up with Sammy and Johnny is there to take a loss.
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... page unique e-bela not worth talking about i don't know why we're still continuing with this parent apparently niki bela wants a shot at shell secret for the women's shampion ship uh... i don't believe in two thousand twenty six if she's getting a shot in two weeks it two weeks she lost the next week she lost the match to yeah and she lost she said in two weeks she said two weeks she's gonna get a title match so i mean apparently that match is gonna happen and then she went out there and she lost two page so
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I wonder if they realize how bad this is and how much they actually
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[UNKNOWN]: maybe don't realize that they continue putting it on the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's fucking awful.
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[UNKNOWN]: They mean, they mean, priest and all truth.
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[UNKNOWN]: This match got stopped.
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[UNKNOWN]: Three minutes in, all truth.
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[UNKNOWN]: What happened with all truth?
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[UNKNOWN]: He came down off a dropkick and then he never got up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Is that what happened?
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[UNKNOWN]: He did a missile dropkick and he looked like he just took a hard landing.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: First, I thought maybe he knocked the wind out of himself.
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[UNKNOWN]: because he was laying there and he just didn't get up.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was communicating with something to the referee.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know if he felt something and his neck and it went down into his lower extremities or if maybe he knocked himself loopy, I thought, you know, okay, maybe it's a concussion type situation.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the referee went over to priest, they were talking, they showed all of this on camera, so they were obviously trying to figure something out on the fly, and then he calls the match off.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then they sent fraxy him out there, and they did a little, you know, something at the end and were priest kind of tease he was going to use a chair, but he thought better of it, and that was it.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know what the plan finish was.
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[UNKNOWN]: I know that wasn't it, and hopefully truth is going to be okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: I know he posted a photo sitting outside of an MRI machine, so I don't know if they're concerned that there could be some larger injury here, but he seemed to be in good spirits in his photo, and hopefully he'll be okay, because that was a scary situation.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hey, Danny Priest just turned heel not really off to the rip roaring start you would want for him, but no, but to the point that we were just talking about why not transition him into a US title field with trick will you just when he'll tricks the baby face right it seems like that would make sense to me.
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[UNKNOWN]: He should be working with priest he shouldn't be working with Sammy right now.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a good call not on.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what they're thinking.
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[UNKNOWN]: Alexa and Tate and they're in the new tech team champions they had a celebration outcomes fatal influence We're going what happened.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, this is my favorite part of the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is what I talked about on my review because That did you notice the person in the front row.
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[UNKNOWN]: I did he was sleeping.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, he was or does it all feel at least
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, look, some people were like, oh, well, you don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was sleeping.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, okay, maybe he was either praying, which is possible.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe he was praying for the end of the night.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe the flood, maybe the arena lights for so bright, he was closing his eyes because he didn't want to be blind about the arena lights.
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[UNKNOWN]: It'd been meditating, doing some meditation.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe our next life's sitting next.
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[UNKNOWN]: So he didn't want to listen to our anymore.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was pretending that he wasn't conscious as the lights closed.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's possible.
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[UNKNOWN]: Although, there was a dude next to him, so I don't know about that.
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[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I noticed it straight away, and I'm like, holy shit, that guy is next.
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[UNKNOWN]: I sleep in.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, this guy right here is just the perfect, he's just emblematic of this television show, because how much money do you think he paid to sit in the front row in that seat?
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[UNKNOWN]: Got to be at least $1500.
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[UNKNOWN]: At least, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is the TKO, or you may be underselling it.
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[UNKNOWN]: So he spent a lot of money to sit in the front row, and he's fucking sleeping in the middle of the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, you're bad at some of that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Spending that time of the money on this fucking show.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'd never go to it on smack that ever again.
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[UNKNOWN]: Holy shit.
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[UNKNOWN]: But then fatal influence came out when they played their music.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it woke him up.
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[UNKNOWN]: It kind of jolted him awake, because after that he was conscious and awake again.
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[UNKNOWN]: I was like, that guy right there, that is, that right there sums it all up.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's the fuck better than I got.
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[UNKNOWN]: That guy's got some Friday nights back down.
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[UNKNOWN]: That guy's placed it all over the fucking show.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, he can be the SmackDown mascot.
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[UNKNOWN]: Just sleepin' in the corner every single week.
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[UNKNOWN]: I usually post my doctor this respect give every every Wednesday or Friday if it's bad enough.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm just gonna take a screenshot of that guy.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just placed it out on my Twitter wall.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that guy.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's all you need to do.
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[UNKNOWN]: Again, the women's tag team division is in dire straits.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's fucking abysmal.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is what they got going on.
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[UNKNOWN]: Alexa, Tatum's filling in for Charlotte.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's what's we Charlotte and Alexa.
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[UNKNOWN]: Fatal influence wants their titles back.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we got the baddies who are coming after them as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean,
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[UNKNOWN]: This may be one of the most uninteresting stretches for the women's division.
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[UNKNOWN]: I could ever remember on WWE show this is fucking boring I don't know what's there.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's great talent here, but it's just fucking boring Yeah, and Tiffany Stratton won the money in the bank briefcase.
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[UNKNOWN]: She wasn't on the show at all.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's can she's can cost Yeah, she's almost 100% got to be so she wasn't even on the show this week that didn't help
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's just it's not a very exciting time right now for the women's division on that show.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then you got Jordan Grace who as far as I know is still smack down talent and I don't know she's still she's still missing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'll speed you up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Fightful did update briefly on Jordan Grace.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is coming from WrestleVotes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Russell votes are saying that she is not in any WWE creative plans.
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[UNKNOWN]: It should be noted, though, that there were plans, tentative plans, as early as September, the working plan at the time was Jordan Grayson Ivy Niles attacked him with vignettes that they've already filmed the while back that have yet to air.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, Ivy Knox contract was also to expire in October, which I'm assuming if that's the case, she may or may not be afraid of Asian at this point, so we don't really know.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then Jordan Grace is still sitting on the sidelines, but
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, I think we talked about this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how many times Jason, why do you call her up if there's no fuck?
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[UNKNOWN]: You said the plan was for Jay Cargle to beat somebody.
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[UNKNOWN]: That was the plan.
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[UNKNOWN]: I believe that you're 100% correct.
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[UNKNOWN]: But at that point, how many months have gone by when you've got no plans send her back down to NXT if that's the fucking case.
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[UNKNOWN]: So she could actually work off some of that contract.
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[UNKNOWN]: What the fuck is that?
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[UNKNOWN]: They could probably use her down there too, like they've called up a bunch of women from NXT, so if you don't have anything for her for the time being, I'm sure NXT would love to have her back to kind of, you know, make up for some of the people they've lost and then she could work with some of the newer ladies down there.
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[UNKNOWN]: And instead she's doing everything but wrestling for them, you know, I've seen her do a bodybuilding competition.
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[UNKNOWN]: She was trying to get her pilot's license, she's like, she should have her own reality TV show.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's doing everything.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's like, she adopted another puppy too.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, her life sounds very interesting outside of the ring and maybe they should just give her a camera.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they could just follow her around.
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[UNKNOWN]: I've seen her husband more in the time, small time.
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[UNKNOWN]: I've watched Maple Leaf Pearl than I've seen Jordan Grace on WWE TV all year.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's fucking crazy.
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[UNKNOWN]: Come on now.
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[UNKNOWN]: And her husband's very talented.
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[UNKNOWN]: They got far.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: She's very tolerant on the standard.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand that one.
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[UNKNOWN]: They want to hurt so badly.
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[UNKNOWN]: They want to joe entry so badly.
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[UNKNOWN]: And this is what happens.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand what's going on.
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[UNKNOWN]: At least he got a fucking entrance last night.
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[UNKNOWN]: Holy shit.
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[UNKNOWN]: What was it?
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[UNKNOWN]: Six months.
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[UNKNOWN]: Jesus Christ.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's the news there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Women's division is fucking weak.
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[UNKNOWN]: And nobody cares about the tag team titles or what's going on here.
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[UNKNOWN]: There was a backstage segment, which will leave us into our next step, piece of news here, Gunther.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was in Nick Alderson's office, and he was stating that he was only doing what he was ex to do as of a wrestler, right, as being a wrestler.
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[UNKNOWN]: Nick Alderson wasn't listening, and he thought he was talking to Nick Alderson.
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[UNKNOWN]: The chair turns around, because he's speaking to the back of the chair, and in the chair's den housing.
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[UNKNOWN]: So he's got a neck brace on, he's got his armina in a sling.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's going to beat the shit out of this guy.
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[UNKNOWN]: Guntus says he was going to make Halloween a very special night for Dan Housing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Dan Housing begged him, don't beat me up, at least let me get through Halloween.
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[UNKNOWN]: So then there was a report coming out from Fightful Select and it's on Guntur.
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[UNKNOWN]: And apparently, this is according to WrestleVotes, they are hearing Jason from sources that there has been a mild sense of frustration and confusion surrounding the recent use of Goenther on SmackDown.
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[UNKNOWN]: And speaking, mild, mild, yes, mild, a mild case of frustration, mild, I see.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, you can get like a mild case of an STD, you can get a mild chicken breast from papas.
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[UNKNOWN]: And now we have mild frustration within me.
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[UNKNOWN]: I usually like my boneless wings with a mild buffalo sauce.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, nothing too strong.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now, in speaking with a source says Russell votes, it was mentioned to us that his current direction has raised questions amongst those in creative, especially considering the trajectory he was on following his string of retirement and his move over to SmackDown.
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[UNKNOWN]: As of this writing, there appears to be some uncertainty regarding how WWE intends to capitalize on the momentum.
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[UNKNOWN]: Someone's certainty, huh?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's been a lot of uncertainty.
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[UNKNOWN]: Capitalized on the momentum of Goenther in recent months with some questioning if they truly had a plan for him after he retired John Cena.
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[UNKNOWN]: Did they have a plan?
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[UNKNOWN]: No, they did not have a plan.
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[UNKNOWN]: They didn't have no plan at all for Goenther.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you want to go back to what happened in December on December 13th to be exactly retired John Cena, he retired AJ Styles at the Royal Rumble.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that's two legends he retired and backed back months.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then he goes into WrestleMania season.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're all thinking that it may end to being Brock, Brock gets Ober instead.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then Rollins, you start hearing rumors of Rollins coming back and he's now rehabilitating.
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[UNKNOWN]: He'll be back before Mania.
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[UNKNOWN]: And Ron Brayker got hurt.
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[UNKNOWN]: He had the hernia injury that kept him out as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: So it lined up so perfectly that Rollins and Brayker were going to be at Mania, but it was not in enough time for them to put them in a match.
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[UNKNOWN]: which was the natural way of things until they got hurt.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, Gunther had no opponent, and Rollins wanted to work many, which is why he was working so hard to get back.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, they put Gunther and Rollins in a match, ended up being fine, but it didn't really make any creative sense.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's just two guys that had no plans.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then they moved Gunther over to Smackdown, because he had broke her deal with Paul Hayman.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the whole deal was they moved him to Smackdown and Paul Hamon supposedly got him a championship opportunity against Cody Rhodes, which he fuded with Cody Rhodes for the next three months and he looked weak.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he beat Cody Rhodes in one match and then he gets the triple threat match with Sammy Sammy wins the title of Saudi Arabia.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we are where we are now.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I ask you Jason, they say that the creative is frustrated with the way Grooters being booked.
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[UNKNOWN]: the creative is fresher who the fuck's book in the show?
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[UNKNOWN]: If you want going through it to be a little bit better on the show, then book them the way that you should be booking.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like a final boss, who the fuck's fresher right in a way?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, I think they ran into a problem when they realized what a lot of us did, which is that this career killer gimmick had a shelf life.
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[UNKNOWN]: You can't just be the career killer for the rest of your career.
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[UNKNOWN]: You can't just put him in the ring with people where he's gonna be able to retire every single one of them.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then when they realized this, they just didn't have any real idea of where to take him or what to do with him if he wasn't going to be involved in the title picture.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because that would get boring after a while.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not even opposed to like having him do other things on the show as opposed to just being a champion.
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[UNKNOWN]: But they evidently had no plans for him.
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[UNKNOWN]: They were going to do something with him in LA night.
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[UNKNOWN]: Remember that before they moved them to Smackdown.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that never happened.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think we know how that would have ended for LA night.
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[UNKNOWN]: So he went to Smackdown.
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[UNKNOWN]: And like you said, he did the stuff with Cody for a while.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think he lost or he certainly didn't win any of those matches.
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[UNKNOWN]: What did he do at Summerslam?
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[UNKNOWN]: Nick Aldos.
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[UNKNOWN]: All right.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's how fucking inconsequential he's been this year you're going through all people.
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[UNKNOWN]: We don't even remember what he did in summer's land.
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[UNKNOWN]: How's that?
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[UNKNOWN]: What do you do?
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[UNKNOWN]: Two months ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: He wrestled the general manager of SmackDown.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Which was fine.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it's not a match.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not a match that we are used to seeing him and we are used to seeing him in something a little bit more important.
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[UNKNOWN]: But what does it tell you though, like he's he feuded with the GM and now he's feuding with the comedy the comedy guy in the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like they're trying to actively figure out oh my God, what can we do with this guy?
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[UNKNOWN]: We don't know what to do with him.
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[UNKNOWN]: So we'll have these little side quests for him until we can come up with a better plan of how to sort of integrate him into a major storyline on their show.
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[UNKNOWN]: And in the meantime, this is what we end up with, you know, he's having this little side feud with Dan Housing and how this is going to go on that Halloween show almost afraid to even ask, I would they have Dan Housing beat Gunther on that show.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you were at UX before, what's it going to take for people to stop watching?
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[UNKNOWN]: I think that may do it right there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Look, I don't know that my dad hasn't as a popular guy, and so people may enjoy that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but yeah, to answer the question, did they have an idea for what to do with him?
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[UNKNOWN]: The answer is no.
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[UNKNOWN]: Clearly not, and I thought it was very telling when they had John Cena busted open.
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[UNKNOWN]: This was not that long ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was promoting one of his movies, this was within the last month or so, and he was talking to La Greca and all of them, and he was asked about this.
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[UNKNOWN]: And the fan frustration with the way that Gunther has been booked and handled on TV recently and does he feel as if it was a waste that opportunity because he was the man who put John scene and down.
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[UNKNOWN]: Cena did not disagree with that.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was giving a very political answer and being very careful on what he said because that's what John Cena does.
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[UNKNOWN]: But if you were kind of read between the lines there, he was basically saying, you know what?
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[UNKNOWN]: You may be right.
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[UNKNOWN]: You may be right.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's not for me to say, which was a very telling answer, I thought that even John Cena himself was not what?
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[UNKNOWN]: Because he knew what he was going to do.
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[UNKNOWN]: He can't defend this.
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[UNKNOWN]: He can't defend this.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're defending the indefensible.
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[UNKNOWN]: The answer is yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: So whatever he gained from that was squandered.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's the answer was yes.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, we're going to score a card.
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[UNKNOWN]: Triple X fucked up.
56:44.312 --> 56:45.392
[UNKNOWN]: Johnson's retirement run.
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[UNKNOWN]: Triple X fucked up.
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[UNKNOWN]: The aftermath of Johnson's retirement run.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're good there.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you can't, you can't script this shit any better.
56:51.615 --> 56:53.296
[UNKNOWN]: But what the fuck is going on over there?
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[UNKNOWN]: because they think in the moment and it doesn't seem like they give a lot of thought to like, okay, well, when we get there and we get in like, on that's a Sunday on a Monday morning, like, okay, now what?
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[UNKNOWN]: And they didn't really have it.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like you said the scene, he'll turn all over again.
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[UNKNOWN]: There was no good follow-up to it.
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[UNKNOWN]: We got a great idea for an angle, the night of, but then what happens the next day and the day after that and the day after that and then there's just no no real follow-up to it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And this is what we end up with.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know, I mean, the people in creative who are frustrated, it sounds like it's the underlings who probably feel the same way many of us do because they're not stupid, and but they're not the ones who are making the final call.
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[UNKNOWN]: So they're sitting in that room and they're listening to this, and I don't know if they're speaking up or if they're staying silent or what, but this comes from the top, you know, when it comes to creative, who is the chief content officer, it starts at the top.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's where the blame should go.
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[UNKNOWN]: I used to say that all the time events, people would blame Vince for all this horrible creative.
57:53.684 --> 57:54.185
[UNKNOWN]: And you know what?
57:54.225 --> 58:01.547
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was basically an army of one, and you would always hear like writers would leave and be like, oh, yeah, we were writing for an audience of one.
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[UNKNOWN]: So we know who that audience was.
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[UNKNOWN]: When there was a good idea or a good segment on TV, you give the man credit.
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[UNKNOWN]: That was a good piece of television.
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[UNKNOWN]: When it sucked, and it was fucking awful, which it was most of the time, then he got the blame for it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Why should it be any different now?
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[UNKNOWN]: It should not be any different that trouble is you get the the good and the bad.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, that's the kind of the cross you bear when you were in that position You take the good with the bad you got no choice the box stops at you Well, and ain't gonna be looking good for going through even with the den outs and stuff because if you guys It recall if you are paying attention to smack down which at this point.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why anybody would want to
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[UNKNOWN]: Dan Allison has this evil, this evil meter that he's using.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's basically like a security wand if you go to a concert or airport, they scan you with this fucking thing.
58:49.109 --> 58:50.949
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you should walk into this fucking very wide.
58:50.969 --> 58:52.630
[UNKNOWN]: We'll be back in the middle of the season.
58:54.111 --> 58:54.831
[UNKNOWN]: There we go now.
58:54.851 --> 58:55.931
[UNKNOWN]: Scott has got this thing.
58:55.951 --> 58:57.632
[UNKNOWN]: He's measuring the evil in people.
58:57.672 --> 58:59.853
[UNKNOWN]: So he puts it on Finn Balor a couple of weeks ago.
59:00.233 --> 59:01.653
[UNKNOWN]: And the things starts going crazy.
59:02.094 --> 59:07.596
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm assuming we're going to get going through versus demon Balor at some point in the next couple of weeks.
59:08.396 --> 59:22.751
[UNKNOWN]: And and and Goethe is going to probably go to a match for Finn Balor's the demon and lose because why would Finn Balor put on the demon make up to only lose So Well because he has never lost before with the demon I think he I think he I think he wins if Dan housing puts a curse on Gunther
59:29.775 --> 59:36.437
[UNKNOWN]: He curses him, which he tried to do the other week and Gunther fucking booted him in the face before he could do it, but that may be what the play is here.
59:36.477 --> 59:39.919
[UNKNOWN]: He will finally put the curse on Gunther, which I don't know that he has to do that.
59:39.939 --> 59:46.641
[UNKNOWN]: It feels like he's already fucking cursed, but he'll put a curse on him and then bad things will happen to Gunther.
59:46.861 --> 59:48.802
[UNKNOWN]: How is this show this fucking bad?
59:49.362 --> 59:54.884
[UNKNOWN]: And you got eight or nine top guys at the top all gunner for the same title, and this show is this bad.
59:55.244 --> 59:57.685
[UNKNOWN]: Like where are the actual stories and matches with these guys?
59:57.705 --> 01:00:00.026
[UNKNOWN]: You got nine fucking guys there that you can't write for it.
01:00:01.387 --> 01:00:04.888
[UNKNOWN]: This is the second thing they give us with Goethe, doesn't he want the title?
01:00:06.729 --> 01:00:07.169
[UNKNOWN]: He did.
01:00:09.750 --> 01:00:10.690
[UNKNOWN]: At one point he did.
01:00:10.710 --> 01:00:12.731
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I guess his priorities have changed.
01:00:13.397 --> 01:00:25.067
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe I don't know if they have they have people who are already at the top who are going after the belt punk and Owens and You know although right now his focus is Roman Reigns, which has nothing to do with the WWE championship.
01:00:25.107 --> 01:00:26.008
[UNKNOWN]: So that's great.
01:00:26.148 --> 01:00:36.857
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, get real the judge says I thought Gootha was already cursed I would not have it in a tear now as it cursed me thought out as with you it might maybe it'll reverse the curse I actually worked it.
01:00:36.877 --> 01:00:38.999
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it might work to his advantage
01:00:39.873 --> 01:00:49.619
[UNKNOWN]: That was just an awesome fucking this is without question his worst year creatively since he's joined the company This guy's held a title 80% of his time in the company.
01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:50.720
[UNKNOWN]: This is the worst year.
01:00:50.740 --> 01:00:51.760
[UNKNOWN]: He's ever high creatively.
01:00:52.381 --> 01:00:53.902
[UNKNOWN]: It can only get better from here one would hope
01:00:54.745 --> 01:01:21.423
[UNKNOWN]: uh... right phoenix ricky sands cruiser way title triple a cruiser way title uh... ricky sands had the match one but he purposely pushed the referee into the ropes and then uh... that cause rafinics to slip and then roshem bow referee saw the count but refused to count the three after the roshem bow this keeps rafinics and ricky sands going for the time being good to see ricky sands on television at thirty got some decent heat but it's not anything terribly exciting
01:01:22.165 --> 01:01:25.448
[UNKNOWN]: So, I don't know what else to say about that, any thoughts there?
01:01:26.649 --> 01:01:33.234
[UNKNOWN]: Not really, I mean, we've seen matches in recent weeks like on Raw with Gable, where I look at it and go, okay, that's saved the show.
01:01:33.415 --> 01:01:35.136
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like that was an excellent match.
01:01:35.336 --> 01:01:40.781
[UNKNOWN]: This never got to that level, but it was, I mean, by default, it was the best thing on the show on Friday, you fucking kidding me?
01:01:40.801 --> 01:01:42.522
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but that was with a terrible finish.
01:01:42.963 --> 01:01:47.767
[UNKNOWN]: I know why they did it because they just wanted to keep this thing going, but it's not like we got a great finish to the match.
01:01:48.627 --> 01:01:49.668
[UNKNOWN]: So it was fine.
01:01:50.629 --> 01:02:00.637
[UNKNOWN]: By default, it was the best thing that, you know, they gave us in those two hours, which isn't saying much, because everything else on the show, like you said, I mean, there's just, there's, it's lifeless.
01:02:01.630 --> 01:02:04.152
[UNKNOWN]: But it's a lifeless television show.
01:02:04.172 --> 01:02:05.133
[UNKNOWN]: What a nice day of Friday.
01:02:05.153 --> 01:02:13.740
[UNKNOWN]: I said somewhere, somewhere out there in the YouTube realm, there's a fucking goal who's actively saying, this is a good show.
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:24.169
[UNKNOWN]: Like there are legitimately people who thought this was a good watch and we'll complain about us who watch us, complain about the show and then disagree with everything we said.
01:02:24.509 --> 01:02:27.972
[UNKNOWN]: I'd love for somebody to come on this show and disagree with us about why the show was good.
01:02:28.596 --> 01:02:29.177
[UNKNOWN]: they thought it was good.
01:02:29.297 --> 01:02:29.798
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm sure.
01:02:29.838 --> 01:02:30.258
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure.
01:02:30.359 --> 01:02:32.101
[UNKNOWN]: Look, I'm sure they will always have defenders.
01:02:32.121 --> 01:02:33.743
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure there were people like that out there.
01:02:33.763 --> 01:02:40.553
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they will always look at these shows and say, well, it's not as bad as people say, right?
01:02:40.573 --> 01:02:43.517
[UNKNOWN]: Cause they'll hear sometimes people saying, all this sucks or this is terrible.
01:02:44.298 --> 01:02:46.600
[UNKNOWN]: And they'll say, well, can't possibly be that bad.
01:02:46.641 --> 01:02:49.123
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, well, you know, they gave us this and they gave us that.
01:02:49.603 --> 01:02:56.711
[UNKNOWN]: The point is for the collection of talent that they have on this show, the show should not be this dull and lifeless and listless.
01:02:56.791 --> 01:03:00.594
[UNKNOWN]: And it just feels like, man, there's nothing, there's just nothing to this.
01:03:00.634 --> 01:03:04.679
[UNKNOWN]: It does empty shell is what this show feels like on most weeks.
01:03:04.739 --> 01:03:06.240
[UNKNOWN]: And it doesn't have to be that way.
01:03:06.520 --> 01:03:07.501
[UNKNOWN]: That's a good word, a listless.
01:03:08.502 --> 01:03:10.563
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like an empty shell.
01:03:11.243 --> 01:03:21.547
[UNKNOWN]: There's nothing inside and that's basically what Smackdown has become and my thing is like we talked about the guy in the front row who paid God knows what for their ticket and was sleeping halfway through the show.
01:03:22.387 --> 01:03:34.292
[UNKNOWN]: When you are charging people, the kinds of premium prices that they do for these seats that I think the expectation should always be that you're going to give them a premium product and that's just not what they're doing.
01:03:35.913 --> 01:03:43.239
[UNKNOWN]: You can't honestly tell me that this was a premium product that they gave people, and not just you and me watching at home on TV, but the people in the building too.
01:03:43.259 --> 01:03:47.883
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm sure like there were families at little kids in the kids, love seeing Cody Rhodes and the stars, and they had fun.
01:03:48.283 --> 01:03:50.625
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it was their first wrestling show, of course.
01:03:51.126 --> 01:03:56.570
[UNKNOWN]: But you cannot tell me when you honestly watch that television show and the show was over.
01:03:57.451 --> 01:04:00.033
[UNKNOWN]: Oh man, that was, those people got their money's worth on that show.
01:04:01.566 --> 01:04:06.949
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not even asking for like premium 10 out of 10 shows.
01:04:06.969 --> 01:04:08.029
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just asking for them.
01:04:08.049 --> 01:04:10.551
[UNKNOWN]: So they have to be I know I'm just asking for them to try.
01:04:10.571 --> 01:04:12.391
[UNKNOWN]: That's all.
01:04:12.431 --> 01:04:16.573
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's getting me from one week to the next where I don't like at the end of it.
01:04:16.593 --> 01:04:19.195
[UNKNOWN]: Feel like man, I just fucking wasted two hours of my life.
01:04:19.595 --> 01:04:20.515
[UNKNOWN]: Don't watch it, Judy.
01:04:20.555 --> 01:04:21.696
[UNKNOWN]: So most of them watch the show.
01:04:22.283 --> 01:04:22.703
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:04:22.803 --> 01:04:23.003
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
01:04:23.123 --> 01:04:23.283
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:04:23.383 --> 01:04:23.563
[UNKNOWN]: Well.
01:04:23.764 --> 01:04:24.644
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:04:24.684 --> 01:04:24.944
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:04:25.004 --> 01:04:26.525
[UNKNOWN]: No, that's all of all our problems.
01:04:26.565 --> 01:04:26.925
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:04:26.965 --> 01:04:27.165
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
01:04:27.185 --> 01:04:27.545
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:04:27.565 --> 01:04:29.346
[UNKNOWN]: Well, no matter where my fucking dieroon table.
01:04:29.366 --> 01:04:30.466
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to fuck that.
01:04:30.486 --> 01:04:31.246
[UNKNOWN]: That'll solve every.
01:04:31.306 --> 01:04:32.467
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure that'll make the show better.
01:04:32.587 --> 01:04:32.827
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:04:33.107 --> 01:04:34.247
[UNKNOWN]: We stop watching the show.
01:04:34.267 --> 01:04:35.088
[UNKNOWN]: The infinitely better.
01:04:35.868 --> 01:04:37.188
[UNKNOWN]: So, but this is the issue.
01:04:37.208 --> 01:04:38.329
[UNKNOWN]: And then we get to now.
01:04:38.389 --> 01:04:39.169
[UNKNOWN]: Or we have to the main event.
01:04:39.189 --> 01:04:39.329
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:04:39.349 --> 01:04:39.949
[UNKNOWN]: Please tell me where we're.
01:04:39.969 --> 01:04:40.109
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:04:40.149 --> 01:04:40.449
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:04:40.489 --> 01:04:40.710
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:04:40.750 --> 01:04:41.570
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to move on.
01:04:42.230 --> 01:04:42.570
[UNKNOWN]: Christ.
01:04:42.651 --> 01:04:43.531
[UNKNOWN]: So like we're up to them.
01:04:43.551 --> 01:04:49.236
[UNKNOWN]: It was a realize this shot in literally two months this show is going back to three hours there You know, that's what scares me.
01:04:49.296 --> 01:04:50.296
[UNKNOWN]: It's terrible.
01:04:50.356 --> 01:04:53.559
[UNKNOWN]: It's scary than any Halloween movie that I could possibly watch this season
01:04:54.419 --> 01:05:02.003
[UNKNOWN]: And so we get to the main event, the whole show was built around this face to face confrontation that we were supposed to get between Cody and Randy, and Randy's not there.
01:05:03.084 --> 01:05:05.225
[UNKNOWN]: All right, Cody goes over and they call this all.
01:05:05.245 --> 01:05:06.525
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, I don't know, Randy's not here.
01:05:06.746 --> 01:05:07.886
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, well, gee, that's great.
01:05:08.126 --> 01:05:10.828
[UNKNOWN]: And after we told him that he'd be in Sacramento, he wasn't in Sacramento.
01:05:10.888 --> 01:05:11.108
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:05:11.148 --> 01:05:12.689
[UNKNOWN]: So we have the main event segment coming up.
01:05:13.129 --> 01:05:19.152
[UNKNOWN]: So he goes out there and he's he's going to refuse to leave the ring until Randy Orton comes out here and we get Baron Corbin instead.
01:05:20.333 --> 01:05:22.174
[UNKNOWN]: And we end up with this impromptu main event.
01:05:23.053 --> 01:05:25.635
[UNKNOWN]: with Cody in a street closed wrestling barren Corbin.
01:05:26.136 --> 01:05:27.157
[UNKNOWN]: This is the main event of this show.
01:05:29.579 --> 01:05:36.326
[UNKNOWN]: And then Randy Orton shows up and he, of course, he drags Cody out of the ring and how many times did we see in this where they fight around ring size.
01:05:36.346 --> 01:05:37.607
[UNKNOWN]: We saw before WrestleMania.
01:05:37.647 --> 01:05:38.968
[UNKNOWN]: We saw before their last match.
01:05:39.008 --> 01:05:39.889
[UNKNOWN]: And now here we are again.
01:05:40.890 --> 01:05:43.873
[UNKNOWN]: But this entire story is actually a very simple story to follow.
01:05:45.267 --> 01:05:48.648
[UNKNOWN]: Randy has said that Cody does not have the killer instinct that he has.
01:05:49.188 --> 01:05:52.550
[UNKNOWN]: He cannot bring himself to punk kick somebody in the head.
01:05:52.570 --> 01:05:54.330
[UNKNOWN]: All right, you can't do it.
01:05:55.050 --> 01:05:56.391
[UNKNOWN]: So what did they do on Friday?
01:05:57.191 --> 01:06:05.054
[UNKNOWN]: They gave the kick away, which stunned me because I figured, okay, they're saving it for this eventual rematch between them.
01:06:05.094 --> 01:06:07.895
[UNKNOWN]: And Cody will finally do what he hasn't done.
01:06:07.975 --> 01:06:09.035
[UNKNOWN]: He'll kick Randy in the head.
01:06:09.055 --> 01:06:12.897
[UNKNOWN]: Instead, they gave it away here on SmackDown, and he kicked Corbin in the head.
01:06:13.657 --> 01:06:14.737
[UNKNOWN]: And Randy God bless them.
01:06:14.757 --> 01:06:20.379
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's selling this like he just saw he, you know, like he was a little kid who just saw his father step out of the shower naked or something.
01:06:20.399 --> 01:06:21.800
[UNKNOWN]: And he's got his hands over his mouth.
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:23.700
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, like he seems so shocked about that.
01:06:23.720 --> 01:06:25.601
[UNKNOWN]: And that kick was fucking awful by the way.
01:06:25.621 --> 01:06:26.141
[UNKNOWN]: It was bad.
01:06:26.401 --> 01:06:27.102
[UNKNOWN]: It was very bad.
01:06:27.122 --> 01:06:32.063
[UNKNOWN]: And look, Corbin, Corbin tried to shield himself because Corbin didn't want to get kicked in the fucking head.
01:06:32.083 --> 01:06:32.844
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay.
01:06:32.904 --> 01:06:35.124
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't blame him, but yeah, it did not look good.
01:06:36.065 --> 01:06:36.985
[UNKNOWN]: But that's how the show ended.
01:06:38.271 --> 01:06:47.903
[UNKNOWN]: Even these like mostly boring dull raw shows that I feel like we've had the last couple of weeks that pick up in like the last 40 minutes, like they've ended pretty well the last couple of weeks.
01:06:47.923 --> 01:06:52.128
[UNKNOWN]: We had an exciting ending last week, last night was pretty good, not as good, but it was pretty good.
01:06:52.969 --> 01:06:54.431
[UNKNOWN]: We don't get nothing on this show.
01:06:55.454 --> 01:06:58.337
[UNKNOWN]: Especially, especially lately, that's how the show ended.
01:06:58.357 --> 01:07:00.119
[UNKNOWN]: And I look back at it when it was over.
01:07:00.179 --> 01:07:01.560
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, there's nothing.
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:07.025
[UNKNOWN]: Like I can't even look back on this show in these two hours that I just spent watching this and say, well, at least we had this.
01:07:07.065 --> 01:07:07.986
[UNKNOWN]: Or at least we had that.
01:07:08.447 --> 01:07:12.551
[UNKNOWN]: The best part of the show was when the fucking credits roll at the end of it to tell me that it was over.
01:07:14.356 --> 01:07:15.678
[UNKNOWN]: I, it's awful.
01:07:16.058 --> 01:07:16.419
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:07:16.479 --> 01:07:16.759
[UNKNOWN]: It's awful.
01:07:17.100 --> 01:07:19.003
[UNKNOWN]: It's awful, awful, awful.
01:07:19.023 --> 01:07:23.308
[UNKNOWN]: Tell me who Friday who who X for Cody and Baron Corbin, like you said, they gave the kick away.
01:07:23.849 --> 01:07:25.151
[UNKNOWN]: Where is this match happening?
01:07:25.672 --> 01:07:26.913
[UNKNOWN]: Where is this match happening?
01:07:27.734 --> 01:07:30.038
[UNKNOWN]: You're reheating leftovers with this Cody Randy thing.
01:07:30.278 --> 01:07:31.219
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, I don't think.
01:07:32.072 --> 01:07:36.495
[UNKNOWN]: We expected it to be this bad, and the story you said is very simple to follow.
01:07:36.775 --> 01:07:45.681
[UNKNOWN]: It's not really good, but if this doesn't result in any change for Cody Rose, what the fuck did we put ourselves through to watch this shit play out for?
01:07:45.701 --> 01:07:46.581
[UNKNOWN]: What is the end goal?
01:07:46.621 --> 01:07:48.042
[UNKNOWN]: He's not going heal at the end of this.
01:07:48.062 --> 01:07:49.223
[UNKNOWN]: Something's got to change.
01:07:50.424 --> 01:07:52.385
[UNKNOWN]: What's going to be different when this feud is over?
01:07:53.245 --> 01:07:54.206
[UNKNOWN]: What's the big change?
01:07:55.467 --> 01:07:58.449
[UNKNOWN]: Cody's going to go back to being the American nightmare coming out with his fucking
01:08:00.762 --> 01:08:04.765
[UNKNOWN]: He will show that he had the killer instinct in him all along.
01:08:06.486 --> 01:08:07.147
[UNKNOWN]: That's the payoff.
01:08:09.729 --> 01:08:10.469
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:08:10.609 --> 01:08:11.850
[UNKNOWN]: They're not turning him heel right now.
01:08:12.531 --> 01:08:13.351
[UNKNOWN]: Where does the match happen?
01:08:14.272 --> 01:08:14.672
[UNKNOWN]: Crown jewel?
01:08:15.913 --> 01:08:17.934
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, that was my, that was my thought.
01:08:18.855 --> 01:08:21.897
[UNKNOWN]: We're close enough where Crown jewel would probably make the most sense.
01:08:23.378 --> 01:08:25.460
[UNKNOWN]: I would imagine they would like to have Cody on that card.
01:08:27.435 --> 01:08:40.906
[UNKNOWN]: I need something different from these two, like a sit down interview is every week, a face to face every week, a brawl or a rink side where someone goes through a table, every week, like there's nothing new here, it's nothing new.
01:08:41.366 --> 01:08:44.409
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, we haven't had yet, there's still time for the big contract signing.
01:08:45.349 --> 01:08:48.272
[UNKNOWN]: We got one of those back at WrestleMania, and then they ruined it.
01:08:48.692 --> 01:08:49.993
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we're going to get another one now.
01:08:51.014 --> 01:08:54.397
[UNKNOWN]: Whenever they have the match, we got to have a contract signing segment, so we'll have one of those.
01:08:55.455 --> 01:08:59.017
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, again, there's no real, there's no real creativity put into any of this.
01:08:59.657 --> 01:09:10.562
[UNKNOWN]: At least Cody and Randy are now, it's a field to me like they're running, they're running back the angle and the story that they probably wanted to do or some version of it at WrestleMania before it got sabotaged.
01:09:11.262 --> 01:09:12.383
[UNKNOWN]: So that's what we're getting now.
01:09:13.323 --> 01:09:15.664
[UNKNOWN]: This has now been going on for a good chunk of the year.
01:09:16.324 --> 01:09:22.087
[UNKNOWN]: So whatever excitement I genuinely had for it earlier in the year has basically just, you know,
01:09:22.603 --> 01:09:23.324
[UNKNOWN]: gone up in smoke.
01:09:23.404 --> 01:09:23.584
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:09:24.425 --> 01:09:27.847
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm just waiting for this last match to happen wondering what the stipulation will be.
01:09:28.908 --> 01:09:30.810
[UNKNOWN]: You know, do they put them in a cell?
01:09:30.850 --> 01:09:36.034
[UNKNOWN]: Do they do they come up with some big blow off stipulation if this is going to be the blow off?
01:09:36.815 --> 01:09:37.535
[UNKNOWN]: That's the only question.
01:09:37.555 --> 01:09:37.895
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:09:38.856 --> 01:09:39.197
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:09:39.237 --> 01:09:43.960
[UNKNOWN]: It's got to be something that's violent because what we've gotten up into this point is incredibly boring.
01:09:44.401 --> 01:09:44.681
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:09:44.701 --> 01:09:45.602
[UNKNOWN]: I'm ready to move on from it.
01:09:46.626 --> 01:09:52.533
[UNKNOWN]: SmackDown next week is looking like these Juliavers Blake Monroe will take place in a street fight It's good to see Blake back on television again.
01:09:52.934 --> 01:10:02.526
[UNKNOWN]: MFTs against Bucks Eye and then Tadem Paxley and Alexa Blitz vs. the Baddie saw that this is more of the same next week I mean this is a riveting show next week for two hours.
01:10:02.986 --> 01:10:03.427
[UNKNOWN]: Bucks Eye
01:10:04.325 --> 01:10:16.690
[UNKNOWN]: And I mean, yes, I don't know, every time I hear that, I just, I'm like, I just, I don't know why, I can't wait to see, I can't wait to see, I can't wait to see box high, right?
01:10:18.611 --> 01:10:20.611
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I guess, I guess, I don't know.
01:10:20.952 --> 01:10:25.733
[UNKNOWN]: Let's say that box I wins the tag to you, so I lose, like, what change is this?
01:10:27.074 --> 01:10:28.975
[UNKNOWN]: Who's the, who's the new competition?
01:10:29.115 --> 01:10:30.655
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we ended up to the warrants.
01:10:33.283 --> 01:10:52.675
[UNKNOWN]: What happened to the report that WWE was serious about revamping the tag, do you realize that I'm wrong, who reported that by the way, who reported that by the way, who reported that by the rest of us in my room, I think I was yeah, and and I'm sure that that probably was genuine sentiment that they were told at that time, but I just laughed now here we are a few months later and like,
01:10:53.355 --> 01:10:57.238
[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking at raw and brown breaker and Austin theory have been to tag team champions.
01:10:57.478 --> 01:11:04.584
[UNKNOWN]: I don't believe they've had a single impact team title defense since they won those belts the night that Montez Ford sexually accosted that security guard.
01:11:04.764 --> 01:11:08.186
[UNKNOWN]: Not one defense of the guy said that's the same thing.
01:11:08.647 --> 01:11:12.089
[UNKNOWN]: Who is who else is in that division that they could defend the titles against?
01:11:12.450 --> 01:11:15.132
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they have the U-Sos, but they're a little bit busy with 946.
01:11:15.172 --> 01:11:19.495
[UNKNOWN]: You got you got OTM and you got the U-Sos, but they don't give a shit about the tag team titles right now.
01:11:19.615 --> 01:11:21.977
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, there really isn't anybody.
01:11:23.294 --> 01:11:24.494
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody seems to care about them.
01:11:26.075 --> 01:11:28.235
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we'll be live for SmackDown, unfortunately.
01:11:28.255 --> 01:11:29.796
[UNKNOWN]: That's what you got to look forward to.
01:11:29.856 --> 01:11:38.918
[UNKNOWN]: So if you guys are in the market for rating, so, you know, like every other week, me and Jason, I'm sure we'll have some colorful things to say about Friday and that's SmackDown this week.
01:11:38.938 --> 01:11:41.939
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they're not going to entertain you guys, then somebody has to.
01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:43.380
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, absolutely.
01:11:44.500 --> 01:11:48.401
[UNKNOWN]: Monday and at Raw, we'll shift gears to Monday and at Raw, which was slightly better than Friday.
01:11:50.222 --> 01:11:50.822
[UNKNOWN]: Brombraker.
01:11:51.582 --> 01:11:56.643
[UNKNOWN]: He and we'll get to the Roman and Sammy stuff as well, but I want to talk about Brombraker here.
01:11:56.663 --> 01:11:59.544
[UNKNOWN]: Brombraker Penta had a very good match last night's song.
01:11:59.624 --> 01:12:01.084
[UNKNOWN]: I think they went about 14, 15 minutes.
01:12:01.144 --> 01:12:05.545
[UNKNOWN]: I could see this absolutely taking place on a bigger stage for something more important in the future.
01:12:05.665 --> 01:12:06.205
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
01:12:07.005 --> 01:12:08.806
[UNKNOWN]: Brombraker Jason, there was a cliff floating around.
01:12:08.826 --> 01:12:11.927
[UNKNOWN]: I believe WWE was over, oh, we're not really overseas.
01:12:11.947 --> 01:12:12.527
[UNKNOWN]: They went Hawaii.
01:12:12.547 --> 01:12:14.787
[UNKNOWN]: They were doing a little three day four day tour of Hawaii.
01:12:15.787 --> 01:12:18.228
[UNKNOWN]: And LA night and Brombraker were in the right.
01:12:19.499 --> 01:12:24.522
[UNKNOWN]: And Braumbrake went up for his running of the ropes in that top rope fucking Frankenstein or that he usually does.
01:12:25.242 --> 01:12:28.144
[UNKNOWN]: L.A. night slipped through his legs and Braumbrake could fell back on his neck.
01:12:28.164 --> 01:12:30.605
[UNKNOWN]: Did you see this, did you see this video clip float around on social media?
01:12:31.146 --> 01:12:33.167
[UNKNOWN]: I saw multiple angles of it.
01:12:33.267 --> 01:12:33.647
[UNKNOWN]: In fact.
01:12:33.687 --> 01:12:35.188
[UNKNOWN]: What was the worst each time?
01:12:35.348 --> 01:12:35.548
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:12:35.808 --> 01:12:36.629
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it looked awful.
01:12:36.669 --> 01:12:43.112
[UNKNOWN]: He's very lucky that he didn't concuss himself or break his neck because the way he came down, he came.
01:12:43.372 --> 01:12:47.795
[UNKNOWN]: He was one of these falls where he came down and his legs were kind of over his head.
01:12:48.519 --> 01:12:51.262
[UNKNOWN]: and he got all scrunched up, and he's not like a small man.
01:12:52.043 --> 01:13:01.832
[UNKNOWN]: So he's very fortunate that he was not only able to get up and resume the match, but they had him in a match on Royal Last Night against Penta, but it was very, very scary.
01:13:01.952 --> 01:13:04.295
[UNKNOWN]: And again, it was nothing that anybody could do to stop it.
01:13:04.335 --> 01:13:06.237
[UNKNOWN]: Like, LA night was not going to be able to catch him.
01:13:07.198 --> 01:13:08.379
[UNKNOWN]: And it wasn't LA night's fault.
01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:10.041
[UNKNOWN]: If you watch it back, he just slipped.
01:13:10.895 --> 01:13:16.779
[UNKNOWN]: He slipped and went backwards and came down so quickly that I don't care you could have the fucking flash in the ring.
01:13:17.580 --> 01:13:19.742
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody was going to be able to catch this guy in his way down.
01:13:19.902 --> 01:13:20.062
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:13:20.142 --> 01:13:24.785
[UNKNOWN]: Ellen, I reached for him to hopefully do something, but like allegations, Jason, there was nothing you could do.
01:13:25.046 --> 01:13:27.508
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and he realized very quickly like he was just no way.
01:13:28.448 --> 01:13:35.814
[UNKNOWN]: But he was able to to get up and resume the match and, you know, look, that's the risk when you do anything off the top of a really, but.
01:13:36.906 --> 01:13:41.830
[UNKNOWN]: It just, these things happen L.A. Knight slipped off the top rope trying to do a move earlier this year.
01:13:42.591 --> 01:13:44.732
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he didn't land on his neck, but it was embarrassing.
01:13:45.333 --> 01:13:45.713
[UNKNOWN]: It happens.
01:13:46.033 --> 01:13:46.193
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:13:47.194 --> 01:13:48.615
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was a good match between those two.
01:13:48.695 --> 01:13:51.418
[UNKNOWN]: What do you make of the relationship between Penta and Javan Evans?
01:13:51.458 --> 01:13:52.358
[UNKNOWN]: Is that leading into anything?
01:13:52.418 --> 01:13:55.000
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they take on the vision for the tag team titles at some point?
01:13:55.461 --> 01:13:58.043
[UNKNOWN]: It felt like maybe they were setting them up for a tag team title match.
01:13:58.063 --> 01:13:58.863
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I can see that.
01:14:00.272 --> 01:14:03.393
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Penta is still Mr. Money in the bank.
01:14:03.413 --> 01:14:07.134
[UNKNOWN]: He did come out to confront Roman as Roman left the ring with Sammy.
01:14:07.214 --> 01:14:08.954
[UNKNOWN]: He did stare at Sammy.
01:14:09.515 --> 01:14:17.197
[UNKNOWN]: I think the growing consensus is that Penta will catch him on Sammy when and where that's to be determined, but he's certainly not catching in our Roman reigns.
01:14:18.221 --> 01:14:20.622
[UNKNOWN]: The open was Roman Reigns and Sami Zayn.
01:14:20.702 --> 01:14:22.403
[UNKNOWN]: I thought this was a fine opening segment.
01:14:22.423 --> 01:14:28.125
[UNKNOWN]: There's always a nice sense of like Importance when Roman is in the ring, especially with Sami.
01:14:28.165 --> 01:14:29.286
[UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of history there.
01:14:29.666 --> 01:14:31.327
[UNKNOWN]: Honourary, ooze, the bloodline stuff.
01:14:31.367 --> 01:14:32.387
[UNKNOWN]: Really great television.
01:14:33.167 --> 01:14:38.350
[UNKNOWN]: He certainly was the most pivotal part of the entire bloodline.
01:14:39.350 --> 01:15:02.042
[UNKNOWN]: going into WrestleMania season for 39, but Sammy was in the ring, and the back and forth kind of started off with Roman and Sammy kind of being Jolvio with each other, Roman's like, I had the burden, yeah, I told you about the burden, and then Sammy's talking about like, uh, everybody gun and form in the disrespect, yeah, this respect, I told you about that.
01:15:02.062 --> 01:15:03.083
[UNKNOWN]: This guy's listening to me.
01:15:03.603 --> 01:15:05.724
[UNKNOWN]: So Roman breaks away like, all right, enough for you.
01:15:05.764 --> 01:15:06.685
[UNKNOWN]: Throwes the ones in the air.
01:15:07.305 --> 01:15:10.866
[UNKNOWN]: And then he's going on and on about the titles.
01:15:12.127 --> 01:15:20.309
[UNKNOWN]: And Sammy is making mention that, you know, you call yourself the OTC and you call yourself the world's everywhere champion.
01:15:20.329 --> 01:15:22.370
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the most important title in the company.
01:15:23.010 --> 01:15:26.411
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm holding the title that you held for 1400 days.
01:15:26.431 --> 01:15:28.251
[UNKNOWN]: And when you held it, this was the most important title.
01:15:28.272 --> 01:15:29.712
[UNKNOWN]: But now that's the most important title.
01:15:30.536 --> 01:15:34.919
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I know a lot of people make a big discussion about this, and I made a discussion.
01:15:34.959 --> 01:15:40.603
[UNKNOWN]: When Roman Reigns says this, I find it to be kind of silly, because he obviously WWE is going to do this for Roman.
01:15:40.623 --> 01:15:44.086
[UNKNOWN]: It goes in line with him being the OTC, and he's the number one guy.
01:15:44.586 --> 01:15:48.509
[UNKNOWN]: But realistically, Roman Reigns title was created.
01:15:48.729 --> 01:15:55.254
[UNKNOWN]: The world's heavyweight championship was created, because WWE was going to keep the belt on Roman Reigns, the universal title WWE championship.
01:15:55.514 --> 01:15:56.295
[UNKNOWN]: For what do you know, today?
01:15:56.935 --> 01:16:01.479
[UNKNOWN]: so they created this title for everybody else to fight over while they kept Roman as strong as possible.
01:16:02.179 --> 01:16:06.703
[UNKNOWN]: And now he's holding the second derby belt, a title that he said was the beat title.
01:16:07.483 --> 01:16:09.565
[UNKNOWN]: So Sammy says, no, I got the WWE Championship.
01:16:09.585 --> 01:16:10.666
[UNKNOWN]: This is the most important title.
01:16:11.726 --> 01:16:16.650
[UNKNOWN]: And I truly believe I'm one of those people that thinks the man makes the title not the title making the man.
01:16:16.670 --> 01:16:18.512
[UNKNOWN]: What would you make of this back and forth between them?
01:16:18.532 --> 01:16:22.795
[UNKNOWN]: Because Sammy has a lot of valid points to the WWE championship being the most
01:16:26.902 --> 01:16:31.526
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the most important title is the one that Roman Reigns is holding because he is booked.
01:16:31.586 --> 01:16:33.747
[UNKNOWN]: He's clearly the number one guy in this company.
01:16:34.708 --> 01:16:39.211
[UNKNOWN]: So if Roman has the world heavyweight championship, then that is the most important title at the moment in this company.
01:16:40.372 --> 01:16:41.413
[UNKNOWN]: Not wrong when he says that.
01:16:42.494 --> 01:16:47.137
[UNKNOWN]: Look, he buried the, he buried the other belt last night when he said that belt hasn't meant shit since WrestleMania 40.
01:16:48.118 --> 01:16:48.698
[UNKNOWN]: He's not wrong.
01:16:50.780 --> 01:16:52.241
[UNKNOWN]: It's got nine nights final over it though.
01:16:53.353 --> 01:17:17.083
[UNKNOWN]: nine guys fight nover because that's the prize on smack down for them to fight over and you probably would have just as many people fighting over this belt on rock roman was there a little more a little more often uh but as long as roman has this championship the way he's positioned on these shows i don't see how anybody can can disagree with the the idea that that isn't at the moment the most important belt on WWE television.
01:17:19.140 --> 01:17:20.501
[UNKNOWN]: And then Roman says, you're here.
01:17:20.521 --> 01:17:24.004
[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about crown jewel, or are you here to pay love to your family?
01:17:24.044 --> 01:17:25.785
[UNKNOWN]: Are you going to help us with 946?
01:17:25.805 --> 01:17:28.548
[UNKNOWN]: And then Sammy goes on and says, I don't appreciate it.
01:17:28.568 --> 01:17:30.429
[UNKNOWN]: You're not even sweating me going into crown jewel.
01:17:30.449 --> 01:17:31.530
[UNKNOWN]: You don't take me to be at the red.
01:17:32.191 --> 01:17:38.476
[UNKNOWN]: And then Reigns then says, well, given your track record, Sammy, you might not have the title by the time we get to crown jewel.
01:17:39.437 --> 01:17:41.158
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think that was Roman foreshadowing?
01:17:41.178 --> 01:17:41.739
[UNKNOWN]: What's the come?
01:17:41.779 --> 01:17:45.261
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we get a championship match between Penta and Sammy before crown jewel?
01:17:45.462 --> 01:17:46.843
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think they pull the trigger on that earlier?
01:17:48.218 --> 01:17:49.258
[UNKNOWN]: I think they wait okay.
01:17:50.699 --> 01:17:52.019
[UNKNOWN]: He's got the briefcase of Spenta.
01:17:52.059 --> 01:17:55.259
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know when he'll cash in, but I do believe he'll probably end up cashing in on Sammy.
01:17:56.620 --> 01:17:58.500
[UNKNOWN]: Um, that was the opening segment.
01:17:58.520 --> 01:17:59.080
[UNKNOWN]: That was fine.
01:17:59.160 --> 01:17:59.920
[UNKNOWN]: Penta breaker.
01:18:00.100 --> 01:18:00.360
[UNKNOWN]: Fine.
01:18:00.601 --> 01:18:02.461
[UNKNOWN]: So Monday night Raw got started pretty decently.
01:18:03.121 --> 01:18:08.062
[UNKNOWN]: We go into the women's stuff Chelsea and EO beat Rock Helen Rocks and EO got the pen over Rock Colour.
01:18:08.082 --> 01:18:11.663
[UNKNOWN]: I agree as there's probably going to be a championship match between those two for the ICT.
01:18:11.703 --> 01:18:15.023
[UNKNOWN]: I had to think a little bit who if Rock Col was still the champion.
01:18:15.043 --> 01:18:15.223
[UNKNOWN]: I mean,
01:18:17.904 --> 01:18:20.946
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, maybe once, but EO would be perfect for that icy title.
01:18:21.026 --> 01:18:25.528
[UNKNOWN]: They couldn't even give Chelsea Green the win, and she's going into the pay per view against Liv Morgan.
01:18:25.668 --> 01:18:34.693
[UNKNOWN]: So, there's to show you what they're building over the building to an icy title match with with EO and Raquel, EO hasn't really had much to do on these shows.
01:18:34.773 --> 01:18:37.094
[UNKNOWN]: So, her winning the match to me is at that's fine.
01:18:38.195 --> 01:18:40.816
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Roxanne Perez, get a championship matching as Chelsea Green.
01:18:40.936 --> 01:18:41.336
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:18:41.356 --> 01:18:43.998
[UNKNOWN]: We haven't heard anything about that yet, but I think that's the
01:18:45.595 --> 01:19:10.738
[UNKNOWN]: uh... jay the McDonald and joe hensry this was largely garbage comedy garbage slopp we got the big funco head which was out there as a mascot for joe hensry he got hit in the head with joe hensry's guitar after dominant took it and smash it over said so we had guitar shards and funco head shards all over the rinks that area at one point this guy was actually unmasked for briefsack and but he realized that he had not got his face because i don't know who he was under the mask but
01:19:11.679 --> 01:19:35.688
[UNKNOWN]: uh... that was that nine minutes shady McDonald wins just complete garbage i don't know who finds this interesting and i could i can imagine what jd McDonald and dominant thinking about this can you get me a way from this garbage please i mean look at getting them television time i don't know what you know television time and the way that they would like to have it it's more a grieges with dom when you consider you know where he used to be at one point triple a mega champion and
01:19:36.808 --> 01:19:41.910
[UNKNOWN]: Now, here he is, basically seconding JD McDonough and dealing with a giant Funko head.
01:19:41.950 --> 01:19:42.650
[UNKNOWN]: It ringside.
01:19:42.970 --> 01:19:45.151
[UNKNOWN]: It's been quite the drop-off for him.
01:19:45.311 --> 01:19:45.992
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's tough.
01:19:46.012 --> 01:19:50.854
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, this is, I mean, what do you, what do you say to this?
01:19:51.214 --> 01:19:54.995
[UNKNOWN]: How long have they been driving this Funko joke into the ground?
01:19:56.196 --> 01:19:57.176
[UNKNOWN]: It didn't go on for months now.
01:19:57.236 --> 01:19:58.657
[UNKNOWN]: That'd be two months now, right?
01:19:58.677 --> 01:19:59.137
[UNKNOWN]: At least.
01:19:59.557 --> 01:19:59.777
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:20:00.057 --> 01:20:01.098
[UNKNOWN]: Before that, it was Dan House.
01:20:02.758 --> 01:20:04.419
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the horse is dead.
01:20:05.241 --> 01:20:06.402
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to keep beating it.
01:20:06.642 --> 01:20:07.403
[UNKNOWN]: So it was the judgment day.
01:20:10.226 --> 01:20:12.288
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, yes.
01:20:13.369 --> 01:20:14.670
[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand it.
01:20:14.930 --> 01:20:17.072
[UNKNOWN]: Somewhere, someone finds this funny.
01:20:17.533 --> 01:20:17.873
[UNKNOWN]: I don't.
01:20:18.153 --> 01:20:18.514
[UNKNOWN]: We don't.
01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:31.748
[UNKNOWN]: Laira and Lola Vice Lola Vice got the win here in 11 minutes because Bailey was stalking Laira at ringside and Lola gets the win with her spinning back fist after the matches over.
01:20:31.848 --> 01:20:36.731
[UNKNOWN]: Bailey gets on the microphone and I want to set this up because we talked about this a couple weeks ago.
01:20:37.051 --> 01:20:38.532
[UNKNOWN]: There was a report from WrestleVotes.
01:20:39.372 --> 01:20:46.815
[UNKNOWN]: where they said that Bailey and Lyra are going to get a blow off, and it's going to be something that we haven't seen in a very long time for the women's division.
01:20:46.835 --> 01:20:49.557
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be something very fresh for the women's division.
01:20:50.157 --> 01:20:53.798
[UNKNOWN]: So we get Bailey on the microphone saying that I decide when this ends.
01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:58.821
[UNKNOWN]: And next week, we are going to have a note to squallifications match.
01:21:00.662 --> 01:21:02.462
[UNKNOWN]: Have you ever seen another squallification match before Jason?
01:21:02.482 --> 01:21:03.243
[UNKNOWN]: I think this is the first time
01:21:04.447 --> 01:21:13.816
[UNKNOWN]: I'm I'm I'm floored by this and I'm just going to be something very special that you and I have not seen in a very long time I know deep you match on this show.
01:21:13.876 --> 01:21:14.056
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
01:21:14.416 --> 01:21:15.117
[UNKNOWN]: That's very rare.
01:21:15.377 --> 01:21:15.658
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
01:21:16.899 --> 01:21:22.123
[UNKNOWN]: I I guess what I would have liked even more if it was lose or leaves raw.
01:21:22.784 --> 01:21:24.466
[UNKNOWN]: So we can get these two away from each other.
01:21:24.526 --> 01:21:24.706
[UNKNOWN]: Yes
01:21:26.439 --> 01:21:30.521
[UNKNOWN]: I'm low key hoping that Bailey wins and Lyra goes back to being her normal self.
01:21:31.121 --> 01:21:39.444
[UNKNOWN]: This gimmick is a failure, WWE hasn't put any effort into building Lyra up or making her feel special or important and it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's so terrible.
01:21:40.004 --> 01:21:41.224
[UNKNOWN]: None of this is interesting.
01:21:41.244 --> 01:21:45.326
[UNKNOWN]: They've been, how long has it been going on since when was that madness that's where we're going to show with Dan Housen?
01:21:45.566 --> 01:21:45.926
[UNKNOWN]: July?
01:21:46.406 --> 01:21:46.746
[UNKNOWN]: July.
01:21:47.706 --> 01:21:49.227
[UNKNOWN]: We've been doing this since July.
01:21:50.947 --> 01:21:52.228
[UNKNOWN]: It's the third week of October.
01:21:54.082 --> 01:21:55.764
[UNKNOWN]: there's no championship on the line.
01:21:55.985 --> 01:21:56.866
[UNKNOWN]: What do we do it here?
01:21:58.107 --> 01:21:59.489
[UNKNOWN]: I don't get it.
01:21:59.790 --> 01:22:04.316
[UNKNOWN]: You want to have a good midcard women's feud where there's no belts on the line.
01:22:04.336 --> 01:22:05.157
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's fine.
01:22:05.217 --> 01:22:10.925
[UNKNOWN]: But the thing is like this has not, I don't think that this has gone the way that they wanted it to.
01:22:12.143 --> 01:22:26.800
[UNKNOWN]: uh... there's just not a whole lot to really get invested in or excited in with this feud so far the matches have not been really memorable i'm really hoping for their sake in this blow off match they can have the best match of the of the three i think that they will have had so far
01:22:27.393 --> 01:22:40.261
[UNKNOWN]: they'll have the benefit of a no-dQ stipulation, which means lots of kendo-stakes shots, so you'll have kendo-stakes and they'll be able to basically just beat the hell out of each other, and maybe the crowd will be into it because they really haven't been up to this point.
01:22:40.462 --> 01:22:46.406
[UNKNOWN]: I actually think that them working together, this feud has actually been more of a negative for both of them than a positive.
01:22:46.546 --> 01:22:46.726
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:22:47.275 --> 01:22:48.996
[UNKNOWN]: and they're less over now because of it.
01:22:49.016 --> 01:22:53.439
[UNKNOWN]: So I think it would be best for them to just wrap this up as quickly as possible and they're gonna do this next week.
01:22:54.340 --> 01:23:02.065
[UNKNOWN]: And then just go on their separate ways to something else, which is why I thought maybe moving Bailey or moving Lyra from Raw to Smackdown would have made sense.
01:23:02.325 --> 01:23:04.727
[UNKNOWN]: I guess they still could, but I would have been caught.
01:23:04.807 --> 01:23:08.609
[UNKNOWN]: If that is the plan here to move one of them, I would have been corporate at that end of the stipulation.
01:23:08.930 --> 01:23:09.110
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:23:09.810 --> 01:23:14.613
[UNKNOWN]: Now you and I both know that it doesn't mean shit because this brand split doesn't really exist anymore.
01:23:14.633 --> 01:23:15.254
[UNKNOWN]: It's a joke.
01:23:15.932 --> 01:23:22.814
[UNKNOWN]: But still, you can still try to make it feel as if all boy, you know, the loser is going to lose their job on raw.
01:23:22.834 --> 01:23:28.475
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to have to go try to negotiate a new contract for themselves when Nick all dishonest Smackdown.
01:23:29.455 --> 01:23:31.856
[UNKNOWN]: And we're not going to see this person anymore on Mondays, right?
01:23:31.916 --> 01:23:36.537
[UNKNOWN]: Then it would be like, all right, well, there's something there's no belts at stake, but there's something on the line here.
01:23:37.277 --> 01:23:56.148
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, when they announce no DQ, I go, boy, I mean, this is kind of the state of creative right now isn't it like there's just no creativity to it, there's no real effort put into trying to do something different or unique like you could come up with any stipulation you wanted to.
01:23:57.455 --> 01:23:58.776
[UNKNOWN]: Well, what are they going to do realistically?
01:23:58.796 --> 01:23:59.757
[UNKNOWN]: We just seen a lot of a match.
01:23:59.777 --> 01:24:02.360
[UNKNOWN]: We're just going to still cancel any court for fun.
01:24:02.620 --> 01:24:04.502
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's not unique or new.
01:24:05.022 --> 01:24:06.083
[UNKNOWN]: We just saw a still cage match.
01:24:06.123 --> 01:24:08.586
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, that was the report, right?
01:24:08.606 --> 01:24:13.090
[UNKNOWN]: The report was that it's a it would be a stipulation that is rare for the women.
01:24:14.191 --> 01:24:18.235
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know that we've seen that many false count anywhere women's matches.
01:24:18.916 --> 01:24:21.358
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like, all right, that could be considered rare.
01:24:22.975 --> 01:24:24.076
[UNKNOWN]: No DQ is not rare.
01:24:24.136 --> 01:24:32.602
[UNKNOWN]: No DQ is fine, but no DQ is not exactly, you know, anything to get terribly excited about because we see no DQ every fucking week on these shows.
01:24:33.483 --> 01:24:44.531
[UNKNOWN]: So what's so that what's going to be so different about this if they put each other through the announced desk or if they hit each other with candlesticks like dude, they do that as the way they breathe, we get those spots.
01:24:44.911 --> 01:24:46.993
[UNKNOWN]: It'll be a no DQ match in an end that are no contest.
01:24:49.973 --> 01:24:50.293
[UNKNOWN]: bunched.
01:24:51.274 --> 01:24:54.017
[UNKNOWN]: We got another fucking few weeks of this shit.
01:24:54.197 --> 01:25:02.224
[UNKNOWN]: I would move Bailey to smack down honestly, not like it's going to make a fucking difference over there because the whole division is in shambles, but I would move Bailey to smack down.
01:25:02.405 --> 01:25:05.307
[UNKNOWN]: I think that would be the move and and Lyra, I would make a baby face again.
01:25:05.367 --> 01:25:07.850
[UNKNOWN]: I think this gimmick, this heel gimmick is fucking awful.
01:25:08.770 --> 01:25:11.293
[UNKNOWN]: I was hoping for it to be good, but it's gone nowhere.
01:25:12.792 --> 01:25:40.105
[UNKNOWN]: uh... Chad Gable Ray Mysterio Dragon Lee this is a triple threat match for the icy title fucking tremendous stuff uh... i mean Ray Mysterio's like the fucking human fountain of youth over here i don't know what he's doing or what magic is uh... conjuring up but he looked incredible less night dragonly has been legitimately on fire uh... chaggable i mean it is difficult to even talk about progress with the year and not include chaggable and i'm talking about in both a double end of the w the guys tremendous
01:25:41.104 --> 01:25:47.026
[UNKNOWN]: The thing here Jason is, I didn't see the clip that they, I guess, recorded before before a month in that raw.
01:25:47.086 --> 01:25:51.168
[UNKNOWN]: Right Mysterio, Dragon Lee, they got a match here, San Diego obviously goes hand in it where I'm mysterious.
01:25:51.188 --> 01:25:55.229
[UNKNOWN]: So, Gabriel wanted the Mysterio involved Dragon Lee, wanted another match, Gabriel gave it to him.
01:25:55.570 --> 01:25:58.391
[UNKNOWN]: Gable's giving all the Lucia doors, all the opportunities.
01:25:58.951 --> 01:26:03.713
[UNKNOWN]: And he just beat Dragon Lee, he beat Mysterio, he's beaten Phoenix.
01:26:04.413 --> 01:26:09.395
[UNKNOWN]: So he's beaten all of the, all the major Lucia doors, but he won't give Ethan Page.
01:26:10.313 --> 01:26:16.760
[UNKNOWN]: a intercontinental championship match on the premise of, well, Ethan Page hasn't done anything to deserve it, he hasn't done anything to earn it.
01:26:17.761 --> 01:26:21.545
[UNKNOWN]: And Chad Gables here given opportunities out to people who just beat him.
01:26:22.428 --> 01:26:23.328
[UNKNOWN]: They don't deserve it either.
01:26:23.989 --> 01:26:33.853
[UNKNOWN]: So he has this match and then Ethan Page attacks him at the end of the match and holds the championship up and I'm assuming we'll get that match in the next couple of weeks as early as crown jewel maybe for the I.C.
01:26:33.873 --> 01:26:47.339
[UNKNOWN]: title does it make Gabriel look like a geek because he's given these title opportunities to the lucha doors, but he won't give it to Ethan Page is the way it came off to me is that he's stupid number one and number two he might be avoiding Ethan Page.
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:48.520
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't look good for me the way.
01:26:49.750 --> 01:26:52.652
[UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, look, what was the last time Ethan Page won a match?
01:26:53.493 --> 01:26:54.253
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't know.
01:26:54.533 --> 01:26:54.934
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
01:26:54.974 --> 01:26:56.275
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the last time he seemed more rusef.
01:26:57.736 --> 01:26:58.376
[UNKNOWN]: So, if I look out.
01:26:59.096 --> 01:26:59.277
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:26:59.797 --> 01:27:03.760
[UNKNOWN]: And so, more recently than that, we've seen Dragon League get a win over big cast.
01:27:03.820 --> 01:27:06.301
[UNKNOWN]: And we've seen Rey Mysterio get a win over big cast.
01:27:06.321 --> 01:27:08.503
[UNKNOWN]: So, you could at least say they've won matches recently.
01:27:08.583 --> 01:27:11.165
[UNKNOWN]: So, no, I mean, it's not that far fetched to me.
01:27:11.185 --> 01:27:13.666
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't make Gable look like a loser.
01:27:13.726 --> 01:27:15.127
[UNKNOWN]: Like he's running away from the guy.
01:27:19.162 --> 01:27:26.507
[UNKNOWN]: There's a great match and obviously the crowd was really hoping Ray was going to win because they were in the 619 and they wanted to see a title change.
01:27:27.028 --> 01:27:40.177
[UNKNOWN]: There was a moment in there where he gave Gabel a 619 and he gave Dragon Lee won and he had Dragon Lee all to himself and he went up top, he came off with a frog splash and these people thought he had it and then Gabel dove into the last second to save the title.
01:27:40.737 --> 01:27:41.578
[UNKNOWN]: And so that was great.
01:27:41.618 --> 01:27:44.400
[UNKNOWN]: And then it ended with a fucking roll up and so I hated that finish.
01:27:44.480 --> 01:27:45.561
[UNKNOWN]: And the crowd went dead.
01:27:46.228 --> 01:27:49.009
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the crowd is like a balloon, you stick a pin in it.
01:27:49.949 --> 01:27:52.030
[UNKNOWN]: But the match itself, I thought, was awesome.
01:27:52.850 --> 01:27:56.131
[UNKNOWN]: Then, Ethan Page comes out, and then they show big cast-outs at the race.
01:27:56.151 --> 01:27:59.531
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know, I assume they came out together.
01:28:00.012 --> 01:28:01.812
[UNKNOWN]: They never really interacted with each other.
01:28:02.232 --> 01:28:04.793
[UNKNOWN]: And I said this last night on my review, I said, you know what?
01:28:04.813 --> 01:28:10.434
[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't mind if they wanted to put cast with Ethan as like his muscle, I wouldn't mind that.
01:28:10.454 --> 01:28:13.435
[UNKNOWN]: I think that would be a good, I think that would be good for both of them, honestly.
01:28:14.406 --> 01:28:16.388
[UNKNOWN]: if they wanted to go in that direction.
01:28:17.129 --> 01:28:18.170
[UNKNOWN]: So now we're going to get the match.
01:28:18.330 --> 01:28:29.540
[UNKNOWN]: I do think that at the end of this, whether it's the first match they have or if, you know, Gabriel wins the first one and then they have another one, I think at the end of this, the play here is Ethan Page wins the IC title.
01:28:30.141 --> 01:28:32.303
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because if he doesn't,
01:28:33.266 --> 01:28:38.568
[UNKNOWN]: Then I honestly, for him, I don't know where else he goes on this show if he doesn't.
01:28:38.969 --> 01:28:43.811
[UNKNOWN]: If it's felt for a while now, like he just hasn't had a whole lot going on.
01:28:44.790 --> 01:28:48.893
[UNKNOWN]: Now they're finally circling back around to the Gabel stuff where we're going to get a match out of it.
01:28:49.854 --> 01:28:52.816
[UNKNOWN]: I think it would be very damaging for him to just go in there and lose.
01:28:53.777 --> 01:28:59.421
[UNKNOWN]: And if that means Cass has to be there to kind of help him out, like a diesel and Sean thing, then so be it.
01:29:00.021 --> 01:29:03.924
[UNKNOWN]: But I do think that if Gabel's going to lose, it's probably going to be to Ethan Page.
01:29:05.109 --> 01:29:16.977
[UNKNOWN]: what does that mean for Chad Gable then because he would lose the title and I to me personally, I feel like Gable is just really getting hot now and you know, he's a great champion is a great flag bearer for that I see title.
01:29:16.997 --> 01:29:19.538
[UNKNOWN]: He really embodies what that title actually means.
01:29:19.598 --> 01:29:20.599
[UNKNOWN]: He's a fighting champion.
01:29:21.139 --> 01:29:25.462
[UNKNOWN]: If he loses the championship, does he go back after the championship or does he get elevated?
01:29:25.502 --> 01:29:28.384
[UNKNOWN]: Because I would think the way he's working, he should be elevated.
01:29:28.624 --> 01:29:30.005
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think they will elevate him though.
01:29:30.285 --> 01:29:32.326
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you could elevate him, but elevate him to what?
01:29:32.366 --> 01:29:33.367
[UNKNOWN]: He's not wrestling for the world.
01:29:33.387 --> 01:29:34.808
[UNKNOWN]: Have you mentioned that the problem?
01:29:35.468 --> 01:29:38.150
[UNKNOWN]: No, he'll go, he'll continue to go after the IC title.
01:29:38.250 --> 01:29:41.792
[UNKNOWN]: And my hope for him is that they just continue to book him consistently on the show.
01:29:41.812 --> 01:29:46.935
[UNKNOWN]: So he goes out there and does what he does best, which is go out there and have great fucking wrestling matches.
01:29:47.735 --> 01:29:49.557
[UNKNOWN]: Two weeks now, this guy has saved the show.
01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:55.946
[UNKNOWN]: Someone told me in my chat in my comment section that they hate Chad Gable because they feel like he's a rip off Kurt angle.
01:29:56.026 --> 01:29:57.989
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, what the fuck are you watching?
01:29:58.870 --> 01:30:06.718
[UNKNOWN]: Like there are some election of the echo lock and yeah, like in a limpian like I don't understand why you hate Chad Gable because he's a rip off Kurt angle.
01:30:06.738 --> 01:30:08.160
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know understand that argument.
01:30:08.180 --> 01:30:10.383
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, okay, well, because it's a stupid argument.
01:30:10.423 --> 01:30:11.003
[UNKNOWN]: I mean it doesn't
01:30:11.764 --> 01:30:18.288
[UNKNOWN]: it doesn't mean that gable is is bad or is a bad wrestler or he brings the show down.
01:30:18.449 --> 01:30:22.211
[UNKNOWN]: So you can look at him and make comparisons to Kurt Angle.
01:30:22.251 --> 01:30:22.972
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see where you
01:30:23.946 --> 01:30:28.308
[UNKNOWN]: would look at him and go, well, because of that, I don't like him or he sucks.
01:30:29.609 --> 01:30:30.810
[UNKNOWN]: That's not a valid argument.
01:30:30.970 --> 01:30:31.130
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:30:31.770 --> 01:30:32.891
[UNKNOWN]: Take him out of the equation.
01:30:32.971 --> 01:30:36.553
[UNKNOWN]: Raw is a worse show these last two weeks without him on it.
01:30:36.673 --> 01:30:36.873
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:30:37.313 --> 01:30:38.954
[UNKNOWN]: He enhances whatever he's on.
01:30:38.994 --> 01:30:39.894
[UNKNOWN]: He makes it better.
01:30:40.695 --> 01:30:44.837
[UNKNOWN]: You should want more of those people on these shows, not less.
01:30:45.397 --> 01:30:48.839
[UNKNOWN]: So whether he has the belt or if he loses it, he doesn't have the belt.
01:30:48.859 --> 01:30:50.660
[UNKNOWN]: He could still go out there and have killer matches.
01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:52.261
[UNKNOWN]: And that's really all I want to see.
01:30:52.927 --> 01:30:54.788
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if there was a report.
01:30:55.028 --> 01:30:57.970
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember if there was a report that Gabels got a contract you're coming up.
01:30:58.270 --> 01:31:01.752
[UNKNOWN]: If WWE's not signing to bring him back, I think they're making a huge mistake.
01:31:01.932 --> 01:31:03.453
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, of course they're going to want it back.
01:31:03.473 --> 01:31:03.613
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:31:03.813 --> 01:31:06.034
[UNKNOWN]: The question is, what kind of money are they offering?
01:31:06.054 --> 01:31:08.755
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to cut his pay or they're going to pay him what he wants.
01:31:08.795 --> 01:31:10.396
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to make him an offer.
01:31:10.416 --> 01:31:11.597
[UNKNOWN]: They may drag it off and offer.
01:31:12.586 --> 01:31:14.267
[UNKNOWN]: So it's not that they're not going to want to keep them.
01:31:14.287 --> 01:31:16.609
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure they will, but how badly do they want to keep them?
01:31:16.629 --> 01:31:17.290
[UNKNOWN]: That's the question.
01:31:17.330 --> 01:31:18.931
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't heard anything about his contrast.
01:31:18.951 --> 01:31:19.852
[UNKNOWN]: The first I'm hearing of it.
01:31:20.112 --> 01:31:21.333
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know if that's true or not.
01:31:22.374 --> 01:31:26.857
[UNKNOWN]: But Gabel, you know, look like Dragon Off and like Shamus and some of these other people.
01:31:27.838 --> 01:31:42.763
[UNKNOWN]: When the time comes, and they come to him with an offer or they're negotiating for a new deal, he will have to make a decision about whether or not he feels the offer being made to him is taking into consideration what he feels he's worth.
01:31:42.883 --> 01:31:52.947
[UNKNOWN]: And if you feel like you're being offered something that is below market value for what you feel your worth, and he can do what
01:31:56.444 --> 01:31:57.365
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go somewhere else.
01:31:58.947 --> 01:32:07.057
[UNKNOWN]: So if I were them and I really wanted to keep this guy, I would make him an offer that's going to keep him happy and show him, hey, we appreciate what you bring to the table.
01:32:08.838 --> 01:32:12.719
[UNKNOWN]: We go to the main event, bloodline and 946.
01:32:13.139 --> 01:32:14.740
[UNKNOWN]: This was the closing segment of the show.
01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:16.500
[UNKNOWN]: The Usos are backstage.
01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:18.121
[UNKNOWN]: Jay gets out of his rental car.
01:32:18.921 --> 01:32:20.161
[UNKNOWN]: Jimmy is waiting there.
01:32:20.201 --> 01:32:21.382
[UNKNOWN]: Jay's got a baseball bat.
01:32:21.402 --> 01:32:24.703
[UNKNOWN]: They go to the ring and they called out 946.
01:32:25.363 --> 01:32:27.264
[UNKNOWN]: 946 comes out through the crowd.
01:32:27.324 --> 01:32:28.804
[UNKNOWN]: So you got all five of them there.
01:32:29.364 --> 01:32:31.885
[UNKNOWN]: News member now, Carmelo Haitias got married over the weekend.
01:32:31.905 --> 01:32:33.726
[UNKNOWN]: Two colonies joining congratulations to both of them.
01:32:39.134 --> 01:32:54.522
[UNKNOWN]: and he basically told the usos that they have more balls than brains and nobody is safe nobody safe that's all this and nobody safe jay jay says it every week i mean nobody safe i would love some more good night for it including nine four six after what happened at the end of the show last night
01:32:54.902 --> 01:32:55.622
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, nobody's safe.
01:32:55.742 --> 01:33:01.365
[UNKNOWN]: I would love some more dialogue, but that's what the dialogue is, is resulting in nobody's safe.
01:33:01.766 --> 01:33:08.589
[UNKNOWN]: Solo then appeared behind keys, not this solo, but solace a cover, who was also seen dancing at Carmelo Hayes Wedding.
01:33:09.390 --> 01:33:12.371
[UNKNOWN]: I know we talked about this on the two count with the coach there.
01:33:12.651 --> 01:33:15.453
[UNKNOWN]: What did you make of solo dancing with Carmelo Hayes?
01:33:15.553 --> 01:33:17.394
[UNKNOWN]: Do you care about it at all, it's K-fabe dead?
01:33:18.274 --> 01:33:21.256
[UNKNOWN]: I, is this a video that was going around today?
01:33:21.736 --> 01:33:21.916
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:33:22.016 --> 01:33:22.597
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't see it.
01:33:23.542 --> 01:33:25.763
[UNKNOWN]: And he was dancing with Carmella Hay's arm and arm as wedding.
01:33:25.783 --> 01:33:30.926
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay, I It is but it is really kick.
01:33:31.106 --> 01:33:31.986
[UNKNOWN]: It's 2006.
01:33:32.026 --> 01:33:35.088
[UNKNOWN]: It's not 1993 with the Undertaker's got a fucking live the dead man everywhere.
01:33:35.108 --> 01:33:39.190
[UNKNOWN]: He does I mean look when MJF was at MJF.
01:33:39.210 --> 01:33:41.071
[UNKNOWN]: I think when MJF got somebody got married.
01:33:41.091 --> 01:33:43.092
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm sure you have hangman was at MJF's wedding
01:33:43.502 --> 01:33:56.289
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, hangman and Tony Khan and they were all like it's just you know, I said the same thing on coaches show that I guess it's that Chad what do you want to do you can't do nothing about it stay off social media if you don't want to see it Yeah, that's all let's all yeah.
01:33:56.309 --> 01:33:57.390
[UNKNOWN]: They were showing it on the show.
01:33:57.410 --> 01:34:02.173
[UNKNOWN]: They were like, hey, let's show highlights Carmelo Hayes is wedding and he's hanging out with so low sick out.
01:34:02.213 --> 01:34:09.037
[UNKNOWN]: That would be a different story on social media though look I mean this this stuff is gonna get out you know the wives they
01:34:10.088 --> 01:34:17.131
[UNKNOWN]: They post stuff on their social media pages and people share it out and that it ends up on X and what are you going to do?
01:34:17.751 --> 01:34:18.412
[UNKNOWN]: Can't do nothing.
01:34:18.632 --> 01:34:19.952
[UNKNOWN]: Stay off social media in general.
01:34:19.972 --> 01:34:20.913
[UNKNOWN]: That's good advice anyway.
01:34:21.273 --> 01:34:21.473
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:34:22.243 --> 01:34:25.946
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, so Solos out there, he trips keys up on the announced desk.
01:34:25.986 --> 01:34:29.508
[UNKNOWN]: A big brawl ensues, 946 got the advantage here.
01:34:29.609 --> 01:34:33.151
[UNKNOWN]: Jada Parker ends up having pulls out handcuffs.
01:34:33.271 --> 01:34:37.955
[UNKNOWN]: And she hands handcuffs to Royce keys who then starts choking Solos a co in the corner.
01:34:38.315 --> 01:34:41.958
[UNKNOWN]: And he starts to begin the process of handcuffing Solo to the ropes.
01:34:41.998 --> 01:34:46.001
[UNKNOWN]: And he tells Solo, tell Roman that I'm coming for him next.
01:34:46.601 --> 01:34:50.522
[UNKNOWN]: And Roman Reigns music at that point right on cue before he can handcuff solo to the ropes.
01:34:50.782 --> 01:34:52.362
[UNKNOWN]: Roman Reigns comes on out.
01:34:52.402 --> 01:34:55.443
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't or a farm for nine minutes here like he did in the beginning with Sammy Zayn.
01:34:55.463 --> 01:35:00.183
[UNKNOWN]: But he did a brisk walk to the ring here without the world's heavyweight championship.
01:35:00.203 --> 01:35:03.784
[UNKNOWN]: He gets in the ring and they the one thing that got me was all that reactions.
01:35:03.824 --> 01:35:08.265
[UNKNOWN]: Carmello or Royce Keys is like, oh my god, it's like they've seen a fucking ghost.
01:35:08.845 --> 01:35:11.125
[UNKNOWN]: So he's out there and they're surprised to see Roman Reigns.
01:35:11.305 --> 01:35:12.706
[UNKNOWN]: We're all surprised to see Roman Reigns.
01:35:12.726 --> 01:35:14.526
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't think he gave a shit about his family anymore.
01:35:15.046 --> 01:35:17.507
[UNKNOWN]: So he's out there and they all stand face to face.
01:35:17.547 --> 01:35:28.311
[UNKNOWN]: It was very reminiscent of the shield and why it days back in the day and they're all staring each other and then the crowd is kind of building the tension and we get a big brawl.
01:35:28.951 --> 01:35:31.252
[UNKNOWN]: So it ends with the bloodline standing tall.
01:35:31.292 --> 01:35:35.894
[UNKNOWN]: There was a Superman punch to Royce keys and some I went spike to Carmelo Hayes by Solos
01:35:38.995 --> 01:35:42.237
[UNKNOWN]: And then the show ends with the ones in the years, the bloodline stand tall.
01:35:42.257 --> 01:35:45.539
[UNKNOWN]: This was more of a bill than anything for survivor series.
01:35:45.559 --> 01:35:48.320
[UNKNOWN]: And we're going into crown jewel, I guess we all know that.
01:35:48.560 --> 01:35:56.945
[UNKNOWN]: This is where it's going, but at the end of the chase, what do you feel about the way WWE added in a little layer to this storyline?
01:35:57.125 --> 01:36:03.249
[UNKNOWN]: I know I made a big deal last week about, well, you got to give me an explanation about Carmelo Hayes and I rented about that last night.
01:36:03.269 --> 01:36:03.509
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like,
01:36:04.516 --> 01:36:05.798
[UNKNOWN]: I just want something different.
01:36:05.858 --> 01:36:07.700
[UNKNOWN]: It's really frustrating for me personally.
01:36:08.360 --> 01:36:10.403
[UNKNOWN]: And I understand that this is where they're going.
01:36:10.423 --> 01:36:11.804
[UNKNOWN]: You've got two big factions.
01:36:11.844 --> 01:36:15.668
[UNKNOWN]: This is probably better now for the bloodline than it was in the beginning.
01:36:15.688 --> 01:36:17.110
[UNKNOWN]: They weren't really doing anything interesting.
01:36:17.470 --> 01:36:21.155
[UNKNOWN]: I'm glad there's a rival group standing toe to toe against the bloodline.
01:36:21.575 --> 01:36:22.936
[UNKNOWN]: But for Triple H who,
01:36:23.617 --> 01:36:32.883
[UNKNOWN]: Ren NXT with Dusty and Ryan Ward and all the people that he had down there, he always paid so much attention to the little details.
01:36:32.943 --> 01:36:35.064
[UNKNOWN]: He never really skimped on the little details.
01:36:35.784 --> 01:36:37.345
[UNKNOWN]: Here he skimped on the little details.
01:36:37.385 --> 01:36:38.646
[UNKNOWN]: Like you said, Les, we can I agree.
01:36:38.666 --> 01:36:40.047
[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to make or break the story.
01:36:40.407 --> 01:36:43.409
[UNKNOWN]: But I mean, for Christ's sake, give me a reason why Jada is there.
01:36:43.809 --> 01:36:44.629
[UNKNOWN]: What is her reason?
01:36:44.910 --> 01:36:47.551
[UNKNOWN]: Give me a reason why Carmelo Hayes was brought into the group.
01:36:47.951 --> 01:36:50.553
[UNKNOWN]: Let me get some more dialogue except
01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:52.981
[UNKNOWN]: fucking nobody's safe.
01:36:53.421 --> 01:36:54.062
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
01:36:54.202 --> 01:37:00.708
[UNKNOWN]: Give me something as far as to flesh out the characters and why they're there and why why this is such a big deal.
01:37:00.988 --> 01:37:01.909
[UNKNOWN]: That's all I ask.
01:37:02.149 --> 01:37:06.693
[UNKNOWN]: Other than that, I thought this was fine, but I'm sure this will heat up more going into your live series.
01:37:08.338 --> 01:37:33.248
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah and right now it's it's four on four yeah and so war games is going to be five on five we'll get Jacob fought to back before there's no way Jacob is not coming back before survivor series so that'll be your five and then nine four six will need another body which is where I think L.A. night maybe comes into play but whoever it is you plug that person and you get five on five and it looks like the war games uh... kind of the battle lines have been drawn
01:37:37.990 --> 01:37:41.192
[UNKNOWN]: So there's a lot of time left to kind of figure all that out.
01:37:42.712 --> 01:37:43.172
[UNKNOWN]: LA night.
01:37:43.453 --> 01:37:45.033
[UNKNOWN]: I don't I don't want to I don't know.
01:37:45.333 --> 01:37:46.734
[UNKNOWN]: I'm I'm not going to line that way.
01:37:46.774 --> 01:37:47.875
[UNKNOWN]: Night in that and that spot.
01:37:47.895 --> 01:37:49.135
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's a good spot for him.
01:37:49.175 --> 01:37:51.816
[UNKNOWN]: He's got nothing else to do.
01:37:52.557 --> 01:37:54.558
[UNKNOWN]: We're hearing a lot more from Drew McIntyre.
01:37:54.578 --> 01:37:55.758
[UNKNOWN]: You think it ends up being Drew McIntyre?
01:37:55.898 --> 01:37:56.258
[UNKNOWN]: Could be.
01:37:56.999 --> 01:37:59.180
[UNKNOWN]: He has no love loss for Roman in the bloodline either.
01:38:00.234 --> 01:38:06.480
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, but I just feel like LA night kind of gave a solo a dirty look last week when he confronted him about really.
01:38:07.461 --> 01:38:08.182
[UNKNOWN]: The family again.
01:38:09.043 --> 01:38:20.294
[UNKNOWN]: So there's I think there's something I'd like to think anyway that they have some sort of plan and there's something going on there and I think he him going heel unless they just want to move them to Smackdown, but again, Smackdown's very busy right now.
01:38:21.113 --> 01:38:23.994
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's the spot that would make the most sense for LA night.
01:38:24.654 --> 01:38:25.454
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm in this guy.
01:38:26.174 --> 01:38:27.854
[UNKNOWN]: I actually became friends with this guy.
01:38:28.514 --> 01:38:28.694
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:38:28.834 --> 01:38:30.115
[UNKNOWN]: And he fucking betrayed me.
01:38:30.175 --> 01:38:31.435
[UNKNOWN]: I can't trust any of these people.
01:38:31.515 --> 01:38:36.936
[UNKNOWN]: Well, did you see after the dark match with Cody and Sammy that solo hugged Roman and was welcome back into the family?
01:38:38.416 --> 01:38:38.656
[UNKNOWN]: I did.
01:38:39.236 --> 01:38:39.557
[UNKNOWN]: I did.
01:38:40.997 --> 01:38:42.757
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure LA night will not be happy about that.
01:38:42.877 --> 01:38:46.998
[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't know if that's going to play a factor on the television, but we'll see.
01:38:47.496 --> 01:38:58.479
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, if I tell you the number of people I saw on social media when they announced that match between Cody and Sammy, who were like, why are they doing that WWE Championship match with Cody Rhodes on this month?
01:38:58.539 --> 01:39:00.779
[UNKNOWN]: It's a fucking dark match.
01:39:00.819 --> 01:39:05.540
[UNKNOWN]: They're trying to sell tickets because they're not selling as many and they want to sell tickets.
01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:10.681
[UNKNOWN]: So they're announcing it, but it's a fucking dark match and it has nothing to do with anything going on on TV.
01:39:10.741 --> 01:39:12.842
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, but I thought Roman was the big-bad draw over here.
01:39:15.872 --> 01:39:16.892
[UNKNOWN]: All hands on deck I guess.
01:39:17.353 --> 01:39:41.403
[UNKNOWN]: You know what would sell more tickets if you tell a fucking story that people care about You know like you used to do back in the day Yeah, and they're trying to do that right now with nine four six and they're hoping that this this really blows up something nobody's safe Well, we can make fun of the catchphrase, but I mean people seem to me into this whole like gang warfare thing We got going on right now
01:39:42.797 --> 01:40:07.622
[UNKNOWN]: At least it's an effort to try to make the bloodline stuff a little more interesting than just doing the same bloodline shit that we've seen for the last few years and now they have another This invading faction that they have to kind of band together to try to fight back against So it's something it's more than I could say for fucking Smackdown Can you point to the one thing on Smackdown that's supposed to really draw me and pull me in because I can't think of one fucking thing right now
01:40:08.033 --> 01:40:18.196
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing right now we would go in a good direction and then all of a sudden it kind of fizzle out Nothing nothing nothing Nothing Well, that's the WWE side of things.
01:40:18.236 --> 01:40:19.616
[UNKNOWN]: Chat not much going on there.
01:40:20.697 --> 01:40:25.138
[UNKNOWN]: We shift gears to AEW not much going on here either We had a pay per view on Saturday
01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:28.001
[UNKNOWN]: Not much happened at the paper view.
01:40:28.021 --> 01:40:31.362
[UNKNOWN]: We had one title change out of seven title matches.
01:40:31.962 --> 01:40:35.404
[UNKNOWN]: We had a big XWWE guy make his debut, no opponent.
01:40:35.844 --> 01:40:37.364
[UNKNOWN]: Now we have an opponent for my Wednesday.
01:40:37.384 --> 01:40:39.465
[UNKNOWN]: Apparently Jason said it's speedball Mike Bailey.
01:40:40.005 --> 01:40:41.906
[UNKNOWN]: Again, it's dragging off on Dynamite.
01:40:42.166 --> 01:40:43.507
[UNKNOWN]: We have blooding guts coming up.
01:40:43.947 --> 01:40:47.909
[UNKNOWN]: Probably going to be pieced together with fucking Scotch tape and Elmer's glue as usual.
01:40:48.309 --> 01:40:49.929
[UNKNOWN]: And then full gear on November 14th.
01:40:50.610 --> 01:40:51.270
[UNKNOWN]: That's in Phoenix.
01:40:52.811 --> 01:40:54.091
[UNKNOWN]: I'll let Jason start here.
01:40:58.538 --> 01:41:24.543
[UNKNOWN]: uh... restful dream entirely too long for restful dream and what happened to the seven p.m. start time that he said we got it will redemption now apparently one one yeah but the seven p.m. start time was in the thing for all out so he just clearly forgot about it and just went back to doing eight p.m. again which is why i didn't go live and i regret nothing meaning that i didn't go live yet i don't regret anything i mean when did the main event go on twelve twelve twelve twelve twelve fifteen twelve
01:41:28.310 --> 01:41:29.551
[UNKNOWN]: I'm very happy I didn't go long for it.
01:41:30.832 --> 01:41:32.493
[UNKNOWN]: Saved it for the sound off the next day.
01:41:32.593 --> 01:41:32.813
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:41:33.533 --> 01:41:36.895
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that it was pretty much what I expected it to be.
01:41:37.475 --> 01:41:43.379
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that we were going to get a lot of really good wrestling matches, but when it was over, it wasn't really going to feel like an important show.
01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:46.020
[UNKNOWN]: And that's pretty much how it ended up.
01:41:46.621 --> 01:41:51.144
[UNKNOWN]: I can't, for me, it was a thumbs up show as far as the matches that we got.
01:41:51.204 --> 01:41:54.986
[UNKNOWN]: We got a tag team title match that was excellent on this show.
01:41:55.186 --> 01:41:56.547
[UNKNOWN]: One of the best tag team title matches of the year?
01:41:57.247 --> 01:42:03.429
[UNKNOWN]: We got a trio's title match on this show that even though I didn't like it as much as their last one, I thought again was was a very good match.
01:42:04.109 --> 01:42:11.091
[UNKNOWN]: We had a national title match between Champen and Andrade, which I know was very polarizing with some people that I thought was excellent.
01:42:11.171 --> 01:42:12.712
[UNKNOWN]: I had a lot of fun watching that match.
01:42:13.272 --> 01:42:17.973
[UNKNOWN]: We had match number one in the best of five series between FTR and the Motor City Machine guns.
01:42:18.133 --> 01:42:18.774
[UNKNOWN]: Very good.
01:42:19.754 --> 01:42:22.835
[UNKNOWN]: So, and even Mercedes and Tecla, they had a good match as well.
01:42:23.769 --> 01:42:45.396
[UNKNOWN]: So I can't call that a bad show, because we had all these really good to great matches, but it's still gonna go down for me anyway when this year is over is one of the, in my mind, least important or memorable shows of all the paper views that they have put together, the double or nothings and the all-ins and some of these great shows they've had this year.
01:42:45.896 --> 01:42:50.218
[UNKNOWN]: And part of it also is just the nature of how some of these matches came together and look at the main event.
01:42:51.303 --> 01:43:02.770
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the main event came together, eight men, we only knew we did not know the names of five of the eight men in the world championship main event on this show until three days before.
01:43:04.010 --> 01:43:07.132
[UNKNOWN]: So that right there tells you how quickly this all came together.
01:43:07.212 --> 01:43:10.854
[UNKNOWN]: It was this big rush job at the last second to put a match together.
01:43:11.775 --> 01:43:12.695
[UNKNOWN]: And so that didn't help.
01:43:13.816 --> 01:43:15.757
[UNKNOWN]: So it was kind of a
01:43:20.796 --> 01:43:23.459
[UNKNOWN]: I can't say anything bad about a lot of the matches that we got on this show.
01:43:23.599 --> 01:43:26.682
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think there was any match on this show that was like, oh man, that sucked.
01:43:27.503 --> 01:43:31.486
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that was, that was, that was, isn't that usually the case with a W in their papers though?
01:43:31.747 --> 01:43:34.830
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, but so I said like there was nothing else about it.
01:43:35.931 --> 01:43:39.554
[UNKNOWN]: I know, again, they were building everything around Clockwork carnage.
01:43:40.255 --> 01:43:42.117
[UNKNOWN]: There was nothing else about this show now.
01:43:43.158 --> 01:44:08.435
[UNKNOWN]: or about this show that I went oh man this is I got to see this right this is like the big payoff to something or this is going to be a really important match that's been built up over a period of time we can get that on this show you why aren't more people complaining about that stuff like what is coming out of this show that is going to get you excited about going into Wednesday show minus dragon off because that's obviously a debut
01:44:13.263 --> 01:44:23.109
[UNKNOWN]: What ended up happening here is that the Clockwork Carnage match, it came off as a match that was intended to build to maybe various matches in the future.
01:44:23.810 --> 01:44:34.476
[UNKNOWN]: Instead of this being an important match on its own, it's like we'll do this match and it may lead to XYZ for full gear or it may lead to something down the road.
01:44:34.516 --> 01:44:37.458
[UNKNOWN]: It was like the beginning of something as opposed to like the end of something.
01:44:38.465 --> 01:44:40.367
[UNKNOWN]: And that's how they, that's how they designed it.
01:44:40.387 --> 01:44:41.629
[UNKNOWN]: I said, coming into it, right?
01:44:42.410 --> 01:44:49.118
[UNKNOWN]: The person who, who pins will aspirate should be the one set up as the number one contender first championship at full gear.
01:44:50.159 --> 01:44:52.122
[UNKNOWN]: And I said, I thought that person would be Darby Allen.
01:44:52.142 --> 01:44:53.643
[UNKNOWN]: I thought they would give that spot the Darby.
01:44:53.663 --> 01:44:56.587
[UNKNOWN]: And Darby was the first person in this match to pin will aspirate.
01:44:57.568 --> 01:45:03.075
[UNKNOWN]: And then they turned around and they had Samoa Joe get a follow over him as well, which felt like a bigger deal and he should be the guy.
01:45:03.936 --> 01:45:05.918
[UNKNOWN]: So it was that and the Adam Copeland story.
01:45:06.439 --> 01:45:09.603
[UNKNOWN]: That was really the story of the main event because we found out last week.
01:45:09.643 --> 01:45:12.787
[UNKNOWN]: I guess it would have been after TNT about the Copeland stuff.
01:45:13.288 --> 01:45:16.352
[UNKNOWN]: That ended up being, I mean, they were putting a lot of emphasis on that.
01:45:17.177 --> 01:45:20.740
[UNKNOWN]: And I think there'll be a lot of emphasis on him going forward into 2027.
01:45:21.340 --> 01:45:23.101
[UNKNOWN]: So that was my other big takeaway from this.
01:45:23.141 --> 01:45:27.264
[UNKNOWN]: This was the beginning of the Adam Copeland story.
01:45:27.304 --> 01:45:28.705
[UNKNOWN]: We got a year yet to go.
01:45:29.326 --> 01:45:32.368
[UNKNOWN]: But this was the beginning of something with him in Will Osprey on this show.
01:45:32.786 --> 01:45:34.206
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we'll get to that.
01:45:34.287 --> 01:45:35.747
[UNKNOWN]: I have my thoughts on that as well.
01:45:36.367 --> 01:45:38.708
[UNKNOWN]: Again, largely, a nothing burger show.
01:45:39.168 --> 01:45:40.709
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just hired personally.
01:45:40.729 --> 01:45:42.289
[UNKNOWN]: This is nothing to do with Jason's opinion.
01:45:42.309 --> 01:45:44.430
[UNKNOWN]: Jason's opinion is his my opinion.
01:45:44.470 --> 01:45:46.971
[UNKNOWN]: Every paper of you cycle is there's nothing going in.
01:45:47.551 --> 01:45:51.112
[UNKNOWN]: These shows are stitched together with fucking whatever.
01:45:51.172 --> 01:45:54.673
[UNKNOWN]: Just random matches and no story barely any story.
01:45:54.693 --> 01:45:57.514
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to say no story barely any story or interesting story.
01:45:57.794 --> 01:46:02.256
[UNKNOWN]: And then coming out of it, there's nothing to be excited about in the follow up or in the fallout.
01:46:02.911 --> 01:46:18.820
[UNKNOWN]: nothing and we'll go right into blood and guts which i'm assuming will be uh... a mix of uh... don't call us family and conglomeration or death riders i don't even know at this point will this feels i mean this is this is one of those years where it's not needed i don't even know why we're doing this
01:46:20.097 --> 01:46:22.679
[UNKNOWN]: There's nothing set up that that screams blood and guts.
01:46:23.179 --> 01:46:25.921
[UNKNOWN]: Bro, what is the blood and guts side on the women?
01:46:26.281 --> 01:46:29.323
[UNKNOWN]: Like, where are there 10 women or 12 women?
01:46:29.363 --> 01:46:33.646
[UNKNOWN]: How many hours of women are going to make sense for a blood and guts match?
01:46:34.227 --> 01:46:38.110
[UNKNOWN]: I'm assuming it'll be basically Team Mercedes against Team Tecla.
01:46:38.942 --> 01:46:46.428
[UNKNOWN]: I had a ventures because the Mercedes and tackle stuff even the Mercedes one, I'm sure is not over, especially because she hit her in the head with her mask.
01:46:46.948 --> 01:46:57.577
[UNKNOWN]: So that may be team Mercedes and team Tecola, even that's, I mean, again, it's the two of them, but like where everybody else fits in, I don't know, but more so on the men's side, like I'm looking at this.
01:46:58.397 --> 01:47:05.003
[UNKNOWN]: And I honestly, I think there may have been a story they were going for with the death riders and with Moxley and Pack.
01:47:05.733 --> 01:47:26.790
[UNKNOWN]: And it's entirely possible that because that went out the window now it feels even more random because it just really feels to me like if you do the death rotors in the callous family There's nothing there right now that warrants this being able to get mismatch you said the conglomeration The fuck with the conglomeration being what difference does it make he loves the conglomeration.
01:47:26.910 --> 01:47:30.973
[UNKNOWN]: I mean they've been feuding with the dog I'm only on the run if they're true.
01:47:30.993 --> 01:47:32.014
[UNKNOWN]: Let's just say that's true.
01:47:32.074 --> 01:47:34.136
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't even make any sense for them to be in the match.
01:47:34.216 --> 01:47:35.277
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think they're gonna be in there
01:47:36.121 --> 01:47:46.926
[UNKNOWN]: Um, if not the callous family and the death writers, then then who I thought maybe they were going to build things up for the Osprey United Empire faction against maybe the death writers or the callous family.
01:47:47.926 --> 01:47:50.487
[UNKNOWN]: We can't discount the possibility that that could still happen.
01:47:50.507 --> 01:47:52.928
[UNKNOWN]: It could be Osprey's crew against Don Callis's crew.
01:47:53.408 --> 01:47:57.290
[UNKNOWN]: I would be very, very surprised if the death writers, though, are not involved in this.
01:47:58.075 --> 01:47:59.636
[UNKNOWN]: There's no need for this this year.
01:47:59.976 --> 01:48:01.637
[UNKNOWN]: This is one of those years where it's like man.
01:48:01.717 --> 01:48:07.760
[UNKNOWN]: Now we're doing it But we really don't have the story to support doing it because only a few weeks away.
01:48:07.780 --> 01:48:21.806
[UNKNOWN]: It's November 4th Well, the ticket sales aren't really jumping through the roof either I mean, it's probably one of the lowest attended right now anyway blood and guts matches that they've ever produced so I can't imagine why Well, you get a story people come out and spend their money.
01:48:21.846 --> 01:48:22.447
[UNKNOWN]: There's nothing there
01:48:23.402 --> 01:48:38.390
[UNKNOWN]: There has to be a real story or some creative vision here that links two teams together words like, okay, you're going to blow this off or at least take the, you know, tell the next the chapter of the story in this blood and guts matchman.
01:48:38.410 --> 01:48:42.973
[UNKNOWN]: These crews, they've been feuding with each other now for a while and it's this hot few, we don't have that.
01:48:43.831 --> 01:48:44.451
[UNKNOWN]: We don't have that.
01:48:44.471 --> 01:48:48.013
[UNKNOWN]: If it's because they had to change their creative plans, that's unfortunate.
01:48:48.053 --> 01:48:55.797
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, unfortunately, we're only a few weeks away here, and I don't know why we're even doing a, he black and guts badge.
01:48:55.837 --> 01:48:58.419
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, that's coming up even before Crown Jewel.
01:48:58.839 --> 01:49:00.540
[UNKNOWN]: So we're only a couple of weeks out from that.
01:49:01.200 --> 01:49:08.184
[UNKNOWN]: That I assume, how could it not be one of the focal points I would hope of the show tomorrow night?
01:49:09.552 --> 01:49:11.373
[UNKNOWN]: I think we'll find out what that would be.
01:49:11.393 --> 01:49:14.675
[UNKNOWN]: How could it not be tomorrow is the 21st.
01:49:15.256 --> 01:49:16.597
[UNKNOWN]: This show is two weeks away.
01:49:17.473 --> 01:49:19.214
[UNKNOWN]: This is they should find out more tomorrow.
01:49:19.294 --> 01:49:26.780
[UNKNOWN]: I would hope this is their problem from all in to all out to fucking Grantsland France into Wrestle Dream.
01:49:27.561 --> 01:49:36.448
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not even discounting the the tribute shows that they did tribute show into Grantsland France into Wrestle Dream and then into blood and guts and then right into full gear.
01:49:36.468 --> 01:49:39.771
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's just so many things just lumped together.
01:49:40.651 --> 01:49:42.553
[UNKNOWN]: There's no room for anything to breathe.
01:49:43.599 --> 01:49:47.708
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why he continues to schedule the things that he's got, the way that he does.
01:49:48.690 --> 01:49:48.971
[UNKNOWN]: I mean.
01:49:50.500 --> 01:49:53.381
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I I once upon a time I said, I don't want to get off track.
01:49:53.421 --> 01:49:53.821
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to run.
01:49:53.841 --> 01:49:54.981
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to run through this pretty quickly.
01:49:55.921 --> 01:50:01.103
[UNKNOWN]: I don't I don't know why this paper view model isn't working out more positively for him.
01:50:01.263 --> 01:50:03.403
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that with the less amount of time.
01:50:03.803 --> 01:50:05.343
[UNKNOWN]: He put more focus on the stories.
01:50:05.884 --> 01:50:17.466
[UNKNOWN]: I said to somebody other day, I wish they go back to fucking five paper views, but we know they're not going to do that because they actually make hand over fist with the paper views revenue was I wish they went back to four five paper views a year.
01:50:20.667 --> 01:50:21.507
[UNKNOWN]: What are they up to now?
01:50:21.687 --> 01:50:23.648
[UNKNOWN]: 9 or 10, right somewhere in that ring?
01:50:23.688 --> 01:50:24.708
[UNKNOWN]: I thought they were up to 11.
01:50:25.568 --> 01:50:26.589
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, well, they may be.
01:50:27.309 --> 01:50:30.210
[UNKNOWN]: I still think the sweet spot would be something like 7 or 8.
01:50:30.850 --> 01:50:32.490
[UNKNOWN]: Sure, 4 or 5 is too.
01:50:33.050 --> 01:50:33.651
[UNKNOWN]: That's too low.
01:50:34.251 --> 01:50:40.792
[UNKNOWN]: But I think 7 or 8 would be the sweet spot, and that's still would give you extra time to really kind of build things out on TV, but it's not the way he does.
01:50:41.173 --> 01:50:42.373
[UNKNOWN]: It's just not the way he does television.
01:50:43.191 --> 01:50:56.303
[UNKNOWN]: So this is what we end up with where unfortunately here we are towards the end of the year and it does feel very kind of rushing, cobbled together in some cases, so yet it's just not, it's not an ideal situation.
01:50:56.343 --> 01:51:01.167
[UNKNOWN]: This whole wrestling training paper view, I said that coming into it, we just had a mini-paper view in France.
01:51:02.748 --> 01:51:12.534
[UNKNOWN]: And then we have five qualifying matches one night because we got to get this shit in so we could have a main event ready for the 17th and that's why it felt so so rushed every fucking match went 20 minutes.
01:51:12.634 --> 01:51:13.534
[UNKNOWN]: There's no need for it.
01:51:13.855 --> 01:51:16.656
[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand why a Russell Dream show needs to be five and a half hours.
01:51:16.756 --> 01:51:18.357
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't understand his logic.
01:51:19.038 --> 01:51:20.538
[UNKNOWN]: Motor City machine guns FTR.
01:51:20.578 --> 01:51:25.081
[UNKNOWN]: This was something that started on the tailgate brawl that blood into the show.
01:51:25.101 --> 01:51:28.043
[UNKNOWN]: So we got the very cringey fireworks going off in the middle of a
01:51:29.178 --> 01:51:55.963
[UNKNOWN]: unbelievable tag team match with both these teams to the best teams on the planet we got five works going off in the middle of it uh... the machine guns actually take a one zero lead here in this best of five series which undoubtedly will go all five matches because that's what they do good sure they i wish they do something different maybe have the machine guns uh... when uh... two the three one over f t r why do why does it need to go five
01:51:57.539 --> 01:51:58.766
[UNKNOWN]: Shock me it surprised me a little bit.
01:51:58.806 --> 01:52:00.234
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe FTO is having an off month.
01:52:01.377 --> 01:52:02.598
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it leads to another story.
01:52:03.078 --> 01:52:04.359
[UNKNOWN]: You know what me and Jesse talked about?
01:52:04.640 --> 01:52:09.924
[UNKNOWN]: If they're gonna go all five matches, maybe they should kind of do it like a real sports presentation.
01:52:09.964 --> 01:52:16.189
[UNKNOWN]: Tell us what they're thinking after every match, like you would see a reporter resca, a pitcher, or a fucking point guard.
01:52:16.629 --> 01:52:17.730
[UNKNOWN]: How you feeling after this game?
01:52:18.110 --> 01:52:20.092
[UNKNOWN]: Give me something more, build a story.
01:52:20.152 --> 01:52:26.557
[UNKNOWN]: Don't have one match and then throw the next match on collision and have a go fucking 25 minutes and then we see the final stay place of full gear.
01:52:26.797 --> 01:52:28.699
[UNKNOWN]: I don't wanna see match match match match match match.
01:52:28.839 --> 01:52:35.465
[UNKNOWN]: give me some story, maybe after your attacks of the Morrison Machine guns in the locker room, and maybe Sabin's NES compromised, something.
01:52:35.485 --> 01:52:41.271
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think it's gonna actually be fun or do you think it's gonna be five great matches with no, when they'll rhyme a reason?
01:52:41.391 --> 01:52:47.557
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think given the guys involved, I would imagine they would want to contribute their own ideas, and maybe we'll end up with something like that.
01:52:48.177 --> 01:52:48.598
[UNKNOWN]: I hope so.
01:52:48.898 --> 01:52:52.081
[UNKNOWN]: I can see somebody getting their knee-clipped in the back
01:52:53.202 --> 01:52:56.063
[UNKNOWN]: Now they're not 100% and you tell that story in the ring.
01:52:56.463 --> 01:52:59.384
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's kind of wrestling what I want right there.
01:52:59.684 --> 01:53:00.464
[UNKNOWN]: I would love to see that.
01:53:01.364 --> 01:53:09.346
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, the machine guns go one up on FTR and then we begin the actual show with Mercedes and tackle this one's 15 minutes.
01:53:09.787 --> 01:53:13.047
[UNKNOWN]: Give it to give or take largely good.
01:53:13.448 --> 01:53:14.068
[UNKNOWN]: This was good.
01:53:14.988 --> 01:53:18.329
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need this as Jesse who's in the chat.
01:53:22.900 --> 01:53:40.093
[UNKNOWN]: I understand that with with willow being hurt, this more than likely would have been a triple threat match at the last show, but we got Tecla and willow with Tecla getting the match here against Mercedes, where do we go with Tecla here, Jason, because Mercedes is the champion.
01:53:40.193 --> 01:53:42.815
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think she's losing the belt for a very long time.
01:53:42.855 --> 01:53:46.677
[UNKNOWN]: She even made mention of it at the posture of Mediscrumb, the goal is to take this into all in.
01:53:47.938 --> 01:53:51.481
[UNKNOWN]: What does that mean for everybody like a Tecla or willow with Mercedes at the
01:53:53.147 --> 01:53:55.368
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, it means a lot of losses, what that means.
01:53:55.828 --> 01:53:59.489
[UNKNOWN]: So I mean, when this match was over, I knew they were going to run it back again.
01:53:59.529 --> 01:54:03.350
[UNKNOWN]: And I, I want them to, even though I know that Techla probably is going to lose again.
01:54:03.370 --> 01:54:07.391
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, but that, look, that's what happens when you put a belt on somebody.
01:54:07.451 --> 01:54:10.452
[UNKNOWN]: You want them to have some length that they're run, people have to lose.
01:54:11.332 --> 01:54:12.933
[UNKNOWN]: So what do you want to do, wrestle scrubs?
01:54:14.015 --> 01:54:16.616
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, she's got to wrestle some of the top names in the division.
01:54:17.077 --> 01:54:18.777
[UNKNOWN]: Tecla's one willow would be another.
01:54:18.817 --> 01:54:20.578
[UNKNOWN]: And then hopefully they'll get some other people in there.
01:54:20.598 --> 01:54:24.060
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe build up a Megan Bane or some other people.
01:54:24.320 --> 01:54:26.101
[UNKNOWN]: I still think Kyrie ends up coming here.
01:54:26.141 --> 01:54:31.204
[UNKNOWN]: I could see Kyrie, you know, maybe the beginning of next year is something factoring into the title picture here.
01:54:32.024 --> 01:54:59.205
[UNKNOWN]: uh... and you you've got to have people that you can kind of feed to her uh... until you're ready to transition the belt on to somebody else but when you think they can take the belt off Mercedes and two months no of course not it's not yes not practical so what do you do you just do you avoid putting her in the ring with all these people that we don't want to see take losses now you just you feed them and maybe they end up having some big stipulation matters something and
01:55:00.574 --> 01:55:05.159
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I don't know, but Tecla is is going to have to lose at the end of this.
01:55:06.019 --> 01:55:11.985
[UNKNOWN]: I still would like to see them have that rematch and I still think that each of them may end up captaining their own team in that blood and guts match.
01:55:13.166 --> 01:55:18.971
[UNKNOWN]: Any thoughts on not Tecla dancing after the end of the match in Mercedes kind of burying her at the postural meetings room?
01:55:21.353 --> 01:55:21.974
[UNKNOWN]: No, no.
01:55:23.015 --> 01:55:23.435
[UNKNOWN]: Not really.
01:55:23.616 --> 01:55:24.476
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
01:55:26.232 --> 01:55:26.812
[UNKNOWN]: Let it flexed.
01:55:26.892 --> 01:55:28.373
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we, we said it earlier.
01:55:28.453 --> 01:55:30.815
[UNKNOWN]: So my opinion hasn't changed from earlier.
01:55:30.835 --> 01:55:34.857
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, K, F, K, F is, K, F is, K, F is Comotos.
01:55:35.037 --> 01:55:35.257
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
01:55:36.238 --> 01:55:39.440
[UNKNOWN]: So the, the, the brain activity is not there.
01:55:40.320 --> 01:55:45.283
[UNKNOWN]: It's being kept alive on machines, but the, the likelihood of recoveries very slim.
01:55:46.370 --> 01:56:01.162
[UNKNOWN]: Only natural thing here is for like Jason said for technical captain blood and guts Nick Wayne Chris Jericho if there was one thing on this show that actually I felt might have had a little bit of some positive Maybe a little bit of like all right.
01:56:01.182 --> 01:56:02.963
[UNKNOWN]: This is this is going in the right direction.
01:56:03.003 --> 01:56:04.925
[UNKNOWN]: It's Nick Wayne beating Chris Jericho here.
01:56:05.305 --> 01:56:10.989
[UNKNOWN]: I thought largely this was good I would say this was probably besides the champ of stuff
01:56:11.775 --> 01:56:18.539
[UNKNOWN]: Jericho's best showing here, especially in the Nick way matches that he's on, 14 minutes Nick Wayne ends up winning.
01:56:18.719 --> 01:56:22.741
[UNKNOWN]: He beats Jericho in the best of three here or the trilogy to one.
01:56:23.482 --> 01:56:26.243
[UNKNOWN]: Does this mean anything for Nick Wayne Jason?
01:56:26.343 --> 01:56:33.348
[UNKNOWN]: It is beating Chris Jericho at this stage of his career for Nick Wayne going to mean something to him moving forward.
01:56:33.848 --> 01:56:36.309
[UNKNOWN]: Because I said, I don't really put a lot of
01:56:38.167 --> 01:56:44.093
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly, it's the creative, you put them on TV, you gave them a veteran like Jericho to work with.
01:56:44.133 --> 01:56:49.519
[UNKNOWN]: Now it's up to Tony Khan to take them from this part to where we see him now to the next level.
01:56:50.099 --> 01:56:51.080
[UNKNOWN]: Does Tony do that?
01:56:51.641 --> 01:56:54.384
[UNKNOWN]: If he doesn't do that, I find this to be largely a waste of time.
01:56:54.724 --> 01:56:55.665
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know why we did it.
01:56:55.705 --> 01:56:57.447
[UNKNOWN]: So what do you think about Nick Wayne beating Jericho?
01:56:57.927 --> 01:57:02.448
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it should be a good thing, but ask me in two months, ask me in three months.
01:57:03.529 --> 01:57:04.589
[UNKNOWN]: We've seen this before.
01:57:04.669 --> 01:57:14.332
[UNKNOWN]: We've seen Jericho work with these people that could get the rub from working with him, and it's very hit or miss, whether or not these people end up really truly benefiting from it.
01:57:14.752 --> 01:57:19.173
[UNKNOWN]: Jericho at this point has compared to all those other points in time in his A.W.
01:57:19.193 --> 01:57:20.954
[UNKNOWN]: career because he's so deep into it now.
01:57:22.133 --> 01:57:24.197
[UNKNOWN]: Every year that goes by, he means less and less.
01:57:24.698 --> 01:57:24.858
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
01:57:24.878 --> 01:57:28.144
[UNKNOWN]: He means less than he did the year before, and the year before that, and the year before that.
01:57:28.184 --> 01:57:29.747
[UNKNOWN]: Doesn't mean he has no value left?
01:57:30.776 --> 01:57:49.000
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, so yes, this could be a good thing for Nick Wayne and for the time being it will be because now he's going to go around telling everybody, hey, I beat Chris Jericho and then they said a bunch of pyro off when the when the show is over S a mjf tweeted something the other day also his very quick synopsis of rest over in which was great.
01:57:49.240 --> 01:57:52.241
[UNKNOWN]: And the last thing he put in there is you know, Nick Wayne beat Jericho twice.
01:57:53.201 --> 01:57:54.501
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, could it be a good thing?
01:57:54.661 --> 01:57:54.961
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
01:57:55.221 --> 01:57:56.242
[UNKNOWN]: Will it be a good thing?
01:57:56.682 --> 01:57:58.062
[UNKNOWN]: Here's what it's going to depend on.
01:57:59.083 --> 01:58:02.025
[UNKNOWN]: what I don't want to see when this is ultimately over.
01:58:02.625 --> 01:58:05.768
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to see at the end of all this, Chris Jericho prevails.
01:58:07.169 --> 01:58:08.269
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I don't want to see.
01:58:09.270 --> 01:58:14.674
[UNKNOWN]: What I would like to see is when this is finally over, assuming it's not, but when it's over, Nick Wayne wins.
01:58:15.334 --> 01:58:17.476
[UNKNOWN]: Again, maybe he wins three over Jericho.
01:58:18.056 --> 01:58:20.758
[UNKNOWN]: And then he moves on to wrestle another veteran on the roster.
01:58:21.608 --> 01:58:23.529
[UNKNOWN]: He gets what he can out of Jericho.
01:58:23.869 --> 01:58:25.009
[UNKNOWN]: He comes out of winner.
01:58:25.389 --> 01:58:27.050
[UNKNOWN]: He's proven himself to be a winner.
01:58:27.090 --> 01:58:29.211
[UNKNOWN]: He can hang with these, these veteran guys.
01:58:29.771 --> 01:58:31.112
[UNKNOWN]: And then he moves on to the next one.
01:58:32.112 --> 01:58:34.013
[UNKNOWN]: And then I can look back on it and say, you know what?
01:58:34.733 --> 01:58:35.693
[UNKNOWN]: Jericho did good here.
01:58:36.094 --> 01:58:37.094
[UNKNOWN]: Jericho did the right thing.
01:58:37.114 --> 01:58:39.835
[UNKNOWN]: Because what's gained of Jericho just wins at the end of all this?
01:58:39.875 --> 01:58:42.356
[UNKNOWN]: I know that people, he's the baby face and they like him.
01:58:43.176 --> 01:58:47.078
[UNKNOWN]: But what I mean, truly, what is gained if at the end of all this Jericho just beats him?
01:58:48.218 --> 01:58:50.019
[UNKNOWN]: And then Jericho moves on to something else.
01:58:50.855 --> 01:58:51.055
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
01:58:51.515 --> 01:58:52.696
[UNKNOWN]: How does that benefit Nick Wayne?
01:58:53.957 --> 01:59:02.621
[UNKNOWN]: Well, worst case, they just send Nick way Nick Wayne back to Ring of Honor and they just let him disappear completely like I think like it they did with the thing of that would that would be very fucking stupid.
01:59:02.661 --> 01:59:05.963
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I think ultimately I said this would Jesse on my review Sunday.
01:59:06.644 --> 01:59:11.586
[UNKNOWN]: I think Nick Wayne built like you said get it got a couple winds over some more uh, proven veterans on the roster.
01:59:12.006 --> 01:59:16.789
[UNKNOWN]: Eventually leading to a match with Darby built in story there is being that they trained at the same academy, the buddy
01:59:21.261 --> 01:59:23.743
[UNKNOWN]: And then he can go around saying, look, I beat Jericho.
01:59:23.943 --> 01:59:25.644
[UNKNOWN]: I beat this guy and I beat that guy.
01:59:26.966 --> 01:59:27.766
[UNKNOWN]: He's still very young.
01:59:27.786 --> 01:59:29.027
[UNKNOWN]: He's 21 years old.
01:59:29.167 --> 01:59:29.327
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:59:30.088 --> 01:59:30.568
[UNKNOWN]: Not a rookie.
01:59:31.169 --> 01:59:32.530
[UNKNOWN]: He's been doing this for his very good.
01:59:32.550 --> 01:59:37.934
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's a reason why people were talking about him as being the prodigy when he was still a teenager.
01:59:38.795 --> 01:59:39.756
[UNKNOWN]: And he's just 21.
01:59:39.796 --> 01:59:41.497
[UNKNOWN]: He's been wrestling for eight years already.
01:59:42.278 --> 01:59:43.258
[UNKNOWN]: Father was a wrestler.
01:59:43.338 --> 01:59:45.400
[UNKNOWN]: He's very, very good, but he's still very, very young.
01:59:45.440 --> 01:59:48.482
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm not saying, man, we got to have to rush this guy
01:59:50.484 --> 01:59:52.085
[UNKNOWN]: Top of the heap here in AEW.
01:59:52.545 --> 02:00:00.027
[UNKNOWN]: There's far too many really good people on this roster for that to happen, but in the meantime, these are the building blocks.
02:00:00.067 --> 02:00:01.908
[UNKNOWN]: These are the people that he needs to be working with.
02:00:02.028 --> 02:00:04.429
[UNKNOWN]: These are the people he needs to beat, right?
02:00:04.449 --> 02:00:06.549
[UNKNOWN]: So he can build up some credibility of his own.
02:00:07.490 --> 02:00:09.470
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't want to see him just lose at the end.
02:00:10.371 --> 02:00:12.712
[UNKNOWN]: Because it's just like, come on, man, what are we doing here?
02:00:13.432 --> 02:00:15.292
[UNKNOWN]: It's just the idea, well, he worked with Jericho.
02:00:15.312 --> 02:00:16.333
[UNKNOWN]: So just by working with him.
02:00:17.153 --> 02:00:18.354
[UNKNOWN]: and getting a win over him.
02:00:18.894 --> 02:00:22.137
[UNKNOWN]: Even just one win over him, it's some point during the feud he gets over.
02:00:23.278 --> 02:00:24.679
[UNKNOWN]: But then Jericho just wins in the end.
02:00:25.099 --> 02:00:25.280
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:00:25.800 --> 02:00:28.802
[UNKNOWN]: Show me that you really do want to help try to elevate this guy to the next level.
02:00:29.243 --> 02:00:30.884
[UNKNOWN]: Let him win and move on and don't beat him.
02:00:32.515 --> 02:00:33.356
[UNKNOWN]: He lost the first one.
02:00:33.756 --> 02:00:33.956
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:00:34.036 --> 02:00:34.256
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:00:34.296 --> 02:00:37.639
[UNKNOWN]: That Tony elevate the youngs to create new stars wins.
02:00:37.679 --> 02:00:39.440
[UNKNOWN]: And they got and they got plenty of them.
02:00:39.580 --> 02:00:41.301
[UNKNOWN]: They got a lot of them on this roster.
02:00:41.341 --> 02:00:46.184
[UNKNOWN]: And they've done look a good job with people like Kyle Fletcher and you can point to other people.
02:00:46.325 --> 02:00:47.185
[UNKNOWN]: I'm Nick Wayne.
02:00:48.066 --> 02:00:49.727
[UNKNOWN]: He could be he could be the next one.
02:00:50.167 --> 02:00:51.128
[UNKNOWN]: He's super talented.
02:00:52.309 --> 02:00:57.052
[UNKNOWN]: He's super talented, but just take your time and just put him over.
02:00:58.393 --> 02:01:00.821
[UNKNOWN]: Put him over, put him over.
02:01:01.422 --> 02:01:01.964
[UNKNOWN]: That's the end.
02:01:02.385 --> 02:01:02.807
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:01:03.047 --> 02:01:03.368
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:01:03.388 --> 02:01:05.234
[UNKNOWN]: Want to get somebody over, let them win.
02:01:06.632 --> 02:01:23.840
[UNKNOWN]: Speaking of Kyle Fletcher, who is tremendous in his own right against the young bucks his partner was Kevin Knight, so we have a great team here with Fletcher and Knight part of the Donkhouse family against the young bucks tag team titles, reason why we're here is because Fletcher and Knight beats Steve Borden and Darby Allen adds all out.
02:01:24.680 --> 02:01:29.202
[UNKNOWN]: And that match was stopped due to the Borden incident there where he can cost himself.
02:01:30.151 --> 02:01:31.911
[UNKNOWN]: So we got this match.
02:01:31.931 --> 02:01:34.652
[UNKNOWN]: This was in my opinion the best match in the entire night.
02:01:34.752 --> 02:01:38.113
[UNKNOWN]: Second runner-up would be on Zrade and Tomasso champ at my opinion.
02:01:38.713 --> 02:01:40.394
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how long this match went.
02:01:40.554 --> 02:01:43.034
[UNKNOWN]: I felt like this match went closer to 30 minutes than anything.
02:01:43.814 --> 02:01:46.215
[UNKNOWN]: It didn't need to be that long, but that's what they do.
02:01:46.655 --> 02:01:49.936
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think our flesh and nose had to go less than 30 minutes to be quite honest with you.
02:01:50.236 --> 02:01:51.656
[UNKNOWN]: This was the best young bucks match.
02:01:52.076 --> 02:01:52.877
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe all year.
02:01:53.017 --> 02:01:55.497
[UNKNOWN]: I thought they looked absolutely in tip top shape.
02:01:56.177 --> 02:01:57.138
[UNKNOWN]: Fletcher's always great.
02:01:57.178 --> 02:01:58.398
[UNKNOWN]: Kevin Knight's talented as fuck.
02:01:59.535 --> 02:02:07.622
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I think the outcome was pretty well determined to your Jason, but man, a lot of kickouts, a lot of big moves, a lot of big spots to kick out if to kick out at that at some point.
02:02:07.642 --> 02:02:12.025
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh, man, just end the fucking match already, but again, tremendous stuff.
02:02:12.125 --> 02:02:15.628
[UNKNOWN]: And it'll probably be looked at as one of the best safety matches anywhere all year.
02:02:17.203 --> 02:02:28.988
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it was very clear that based on what they did there at the end, we're looking at the end of this team, you know, maybe they're still part of the Callos family, but they go this separate ways between Fletcher and Knight.
02:02:29.468 --> 02:02:30.128
[UNKNOWN]: I think what was it?
02:02:30.228 --> 02:02:34.050
[UNKNOWN]: Knight, who I think tagged himself in at one point, where Fletcher had things well in hand?
02:02:34.170 --> 02:02:35.911
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Knight went for a top rope move.
02:02:35.931 --> 02:02:36.971
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what he was going for.
02:02:37.071 --> 02:02:41.693
[UNKNOWN]: Bucks baited him in, and then he took out Fletcher by mistake, and the Bucks, there was Knight with the BT trigger.
02:02:41.873 --> 02:02:45.135
[UNKNOWN]: There was some friendly fire as well, but I know he tagged himself in also.
02:02:46.282 --> 02:02:54.867
[UNKNOWN]: Again, to your point about story, that should be the first thing that we see when we see the callous family on TV tomorrow night, and we know we will because there's so many of them.
02:02:55.708 --> 02:02:57.909
[UNKNOWN]: There needs to be kind of a follow-up to that.
02:02:58.887 --> 02:03:00.468
[UNKNOWN]: They shouldn't be very happy with each other.
02:03:00.748 --> 02:03:02.269
[UNKNOWN]: But what happened there at the end of the match?
02:03:02.869 --> 02:03:05.291
[UNKNOWN]: So that's what I'm looking for on the show tomorrow night.
02:03:05.311 --> 02:03:06.972
[UNKNOWN]: But as far as the match itself, it was excellent.
02:03:07.392 --> 02:03:10.314
[UNKNOWN]: Nick Jackson looked into the camera when it was over.
02:03:10.334 --> 02:03:10.954
[UNKNOWN]: He's like Tony.
02:03:12.035 --> 02:03:13.936
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how many more of those I have in me.
02:03:13.956 --> 02:03:14.856
[UNKNOWN]: This was tough.
02:03:16.117 --> 02:03:19.139
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, no, it was just a fantastic tag team match.
02:03:19.159 --> 02:03:20.039
[UNKNOWN]: It was a spot fest.
02:03:20.100 --> 02:03:20.360
[UNKNOWN]: It was...
02:03:21.139 --> 02:03:26.061
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the stuff they did in this match, fucking, Kyle Fletcher, he loves getting dropped on his neck.
02:03:26.902 --> 02:03:27.462
[UNKNOWN]: I know that.
02:03:28.222 --> 02:03:29.083
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember that.
02:03:29.103 --> 02:03:31.964
[UNKNOWN]: That sheer drop brainbuster is fucking, I don't know, man.
02:03:32.064 --> 02:03:34.165
[UNKNOWN]: I would not want to be in that move, period.
02:03:34.895 --> 02:03:36.376
[UNKNOWN]: And that's him giving it to other people.
02:03:36.536 --> 02:03:41.840
[UNKNOWN]: I'm saying, flexure himself, takes a lot of, you know, abuse to his neck.
02:03:42.581 --> 02:03:47.504
[UNKNOWN]: But they were, they were going crazy with all these just killer spots here in this match and the fans were eating it up.
02:03:48.385 --> 02:03:55.250
[UNKNOWN]: So that was, I had that as my match to the night also, followed closely by the national title, Matt.
02:03:56.559 --> 02:04:10.113
[UNKNOWN]: uh... per sefinish he defended the tbs championship against denny luna who i think is great i don't know what they're doing with denny luna she just got there to be fair but uh... hopefully they got a plan for denny luna queen aminata and high on federal foreway
02:04:11.293 --> 02:04:11.894
[UNKNOWN]: 15 minutes.
02:04:12.254 --> 02:04:16.057
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why this match needed to be on the paper view, but Tony's going to do Tony things.
02:04:17.098 --> 02:04:24.424
[UNKNOWN]: Percephery retains here did anyone think Jason watching this that Percephany will lose the title to any one of these ladies because they haven't really done anything to.
02:04:24.664 --> 02:04:26.666
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even know who high on is on the show.
02:04:26.726 --> 02:04:28.467
[UNKNOWN]: Number one, she hasn't done anything meaningful.
02:04:28.907 --> 02:04:29.928
[UNKNOWN]: Danny Luna just got there.
02:04:29.968 --> 02:04:31.750
[UNKNOWN]: She just got a title match.
02:04:32.350 --> 02:04:36.792
[UNKNOWN]: at all out, open challenge against Persephone, which she lost and she's right back under the match.
02:04:37.213 --> 02:04:40.274
[UNKNOWN]: And then Queen Aminata just lost to Mercedes at Grand Slam France.
02:04:40.294 --> 02:04:42.836
[UNKNOWN]: So none of these women are even in contenture for a title.
02:04:42.856 --> 02:04:47.258
[UNKNOWN]: Yet Persephone's defending against all of them, did anyone ever expect Persephone to lose this?
02:04:48.799 --> 02:04:54.122
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I mean, I'd rather see her lose a one on one, not know.
02:04:54.142 --> 02:04:55.082
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sure.
02:04:55.682 --> 02:05:00.185
[UNKNOWN]: And I was, I noticed that Aminata did not take the losing fall.
02:05:01.008 --> 02:05:17.602
[UNKNOWN]: which I think still keeps it alive for them to build to an army not a Persephone singles match where in the end of this I could see I'm not a being the one to take the belt off of her possible you know so they they kind of protected her I guess in that way by having her not eat the eat the pin in this match.
02:05:18.383 --> 02:05:22.547
[UNKNOWN]: I mean this was good it was probably by the fall one of the weakest matches on the card.
02:05:23.587 --> 02:05:25.048
[UNKNOWN]: But it was still, I thought it was still good.
02:05:25.089 --> 02:05:28.572
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the action that we got here in this match, like you said, Danny Luna's very good.
02:05:29.333 --> 02:05:30.594
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a big Persephone fan.
02:05:30.814 --> 02:05:31.515
[UNKNOWN]: I think she's great.
02:05:32.376 --> 02:05:33.277
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, not as good.
02:05:33.637 --> 02:05:35.379
[UNKNOWN]: And who was the other one?
02:05:35.579 --> 02:05:37.000
[UNKNOWN]: Hi, on.
02:05:37.040 --> 02:05:37.421
[UNKNOWN]: Hi, on.
02:05:38.130 --> 02:05:43.556
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I know I've seen her in my world in a lot of their tag team matches.
02:05:44.137 --> 02:05:46.760
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't seen too much of her singles work in AEW.
02:05:46.940 --> 02:05:51.785
[UNKNOWN]: I think Tony is starting to first like get her some more attention on these shows.
02:05:51.805 --> 02:05:53.047
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know as much about her.
02:05:54.048 --> 02:05:57.411
[UNKNOWN]: We've actually had her in the House of Glory for a show.
02:05:58.293 --> 02:05:59.856
[UNKNOWN]: the Texas show that we did last year.
02:06:00.858 --> 02:06:08.094
[UNKNOWN]: So I thought that all four women look fine in this match, but at no point did I honestly think that she was going to lose the title?
02:06:08.154 --> 02:06:08.936
[UNKNOWN]: No, I didn't think so.
02:06:09.774 --> 02:06:39.025
[UNKNOWN]: And I think it was a brick baker who came out after the fact where she wasn't out there for she was not out there on the corner she came out to be cheerleader for Persephone at the end of the match at the very end she came out she didn't have a turn on Persephone at some point maybe maybe I was thinking maybe she gave up the DMD title for valet I don't know goes exactly what I said what I said she was only brought in for that uh... rebel hot show and that's basically at no plans for uh... the doctor there
02:06:39.612 --> 02:06:40.433
[UNKNOWN]: She should just be happy.
02:06:40.473 --> 02:06:41.193
[UNKNOWN]: She's back on TV.
02:06:42.915 --> 02:06:44.676
[UNKNOWN]: That was sitting at home for almost two years.
02:06:44.816 --> 02:06:45.056
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:06:45.737 --> 02:06:47.078
[UNKNOWN]: Let's look at the bright side of things.
02:06:47.118 --> 02:06:47.818
[UNKNOWN]: Brits should be happy.
02:06:47.838 --> 02:06:48.579
[UNKNOWN]: She's on TV.
02:06:48.799 --> 02:06:49.900
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, baby steps.
02:06:50.761 --> 02:07:02.570
[UNKNOWN]: Andre, he defended the national title against tomato, Champa, this calls quite the division on social media amongst sickos and some WWE elitists.
02:07:03.662 --> 02:07:07.425
[UNKNOWN]: So this one 21 minutes, I thought this was great stuff.
02:07:07.565 --> 02:07:09.747
[UNKNOWN]: Andrade's great, Champa is fucking great.
02:07:09.767 --> 02:07:10.867
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody knows we love Champa.
02:07:11.828 --> 02:07:23.617
[UNKNOWN]: So the three big points in this match, Jason, are number one, Champa took a selfie with his daughter because Andrade takes the selfies with the lovely ladies at Rinkside.
02:07:24.057 --> 02:07:27.220
[UNKNOWN]: So he took a selfie with his daughter Willow at Rinkside.
02:07:27.804 --> 02:07:40.170
[UNKNOWN]: He then took off his trunks, which revealed other trunks underneath, and Andrade saying is, how you know, and on Andrade or on a champ of shrunks rather, it said, I just know.
02:07:40.930 --> 02:07:41.230
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:07:41.250 --> 02:07:44.392
[UNKNOWN]: So that's some, you know, sports entertainment.
02:07:45.072 --> 02:07:47.093
[UNKNOWN]: And then Andrade takes his pants off.
02:07:47.173 --> 02:07:49.294
[UNKNOWN]: And this is where the division started on social media.
02:07:49.314 --> 02:07:50.455
[UNKNOWN]: Andrade takes his pants off.
02:07:51.412 --> 02:08:03.446
[UNKNOWN]: And Champa has this thing where he takes an object, whether it's a doll or in this case, he did this with Charles Mason, the House of Glorious Show, Charles Mason loves his plastic bags.
02:08:03.867 --> 02:08:06.910
[UNKNOWN]: He gave the plastic bag, the project Champa.
02:08:07.811 --> 02:08:09.892
[UNKNOWN]: And he loves doing these spots.
02:08:10.232 --> 02:08:11.112
[UNKNOWN]: He did it with the pants.
02:08:11.132 --> 02:08:12.632
[UNKNOWN]: He gave the pants project champion.
02:08:12.652 --> 02:08:15.173
[UNKNOWN]: He pinned the pants and the pants kicked out.
02:08:15.813 --> 02:08:17.714
[UNKNOWN]: And people were like, this is garbage.
02:08:17.734 --> 02:08:18.534
[UNKNOWN]: This socks.
02:08:18.654 --> 02:08:19.074
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:08:19.134 --> 02:08:19.914
[UNKNOWN]: Well, blah, blah, blah.
02:08:20.074 --> 02:08:21.494
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, it kind of makes it.
02:08:21.574 --> 02:08:22.115
[UNKNOWN]: It's AEWs.
02:08:22.195 --> 02:08:24.655
[UNKNOWN]: So I wasn't really shocked that the pants kicked out.
02:08:24.675 --> 02:08:26.576
[UNKNOWN]: Because everybody else, right?
02:08:26.636 --> 02:08:27.476
[UNKNOWN]: It kind of tracks.
02:08:28.435 --> 02:08:32.838
[UNKNOWN]: But the point is, you know, you need such a chip against all of Rooka's champ is great.
02:08:33.119 --> 02:08:40.444
[UNKNOWN]: But Chepa is trying to do something that is going to get himself over while being different.
02:08:41.185 --> 02:08:43.647
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't want to see him do it all the time.
02:08:43.687 --> 02:08:47.109
[UNKNOWN]: I want to see him do this type of stuff in like minimal doses.
02:08:47.129 --> 02:08:51.893
[UNKNOWN]: Like when it really matters, like on a paper, I don't want to see him do this on a random fucking dynamite where it just loses its appeal.
02:08:52.513 --> 02:08:54.395
[UNKNOWN]: But why did people make a big deal about this?
02:08:54.515 --> 02:08:55.436
[UNKNOWN]: I have always said,
02:08:56.036 --> 02:09:01.200
[UNKNOWN]: that AEW to me, they should be incorporating a little bit of sports entertainment.
02:09:01.240 --> 02:09:02.902
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not talking about the Super Orange Cassidy.
02:09:02.942 --> 02:09:05.263
[UNKNOWN]: We kick in the pocket stuff.
02:09:05.384 --> 02:09:06.404
[UNKNOWN]: I like this type of stuff.
02:09:06.444 --> 02:09:08.906
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't really find a problem with Champa doing this.
02:09:08.926 --> 02:09:09.547
[UNKNOWN]: What'd you think of us?
02:09:09.767 --> 02:09:10.748
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, uh...
02:09:11.978 --> 02:09:13.539
[UNKNOWN]: I can understand why some people would be.
02:09:13.579 --> 02:09:15.641
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to say, oh, why are people upset about it?
02:09:15.762 --> 02:09:16.242
[UNKNOWN]: I get it.
02:09:16.402 --> 02:09:19.125
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I get why some people wouldn't like it and that's totally fine.
02:09:19.966 --> 02:09:22.228
[UNKNOWN]: For me, it just, it really depends on the situation.
02:09:22.649 --> 02:09:26.553
[UNKNOWN]: There's silly shit that I'll see and I'll just shake my head and be like, man, this is fucking stupid.
02:09:26.573 --> 02:09:28.074
[UNKNOWN]: Like, like, the Funko pop stuff.
02:09:28.094 --> 02:09:28.255
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:09:28.955 --> 02:09:33.040
[UNKNOWN]: And I think part of that is just, I'm just so tired of the fucking, they've run that joke into the ground by now.
02:09:34.018 --> 02:09:44.443
[UNKNOWN]: In this case, I think the reason it works for champa is because champa is this serious almost psychotic guy sometimes when he's out there.
02:09:45.343 --> 02:09:50.526
[UNKNOWN]: So when you have these moments of levity where he's still very intense, but it's obviously very silly.
02:09:51.286 --> 02:09:52.687
[UNKNOWN]: It's just kind of naturally funny.
02:09:53.624 --> 02:09:57.065
[UNKNOWN]: If he was just a comedy guy doing comedy shit, I don't think it would get over as much.
02:09:57.665 --> 02:10:02.827
[UNKNOWN]: But because he's so serious, typically, and you see him do something stupid like that, it's amusing.
02:10:03.227 --> 02:10:11.070
[UNKNOWN]: Like the stuff it all out with the with the daughter and Ocata being flipped off and everything, that's also kind of the sports entertainment aspect of the match.
02:10:11.270 --> 02:10:13.490
[UNKNOWN]: And that was like the best part of the entire match.
02:10:13.530 --> 02:10:14.971
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that was fucking fantastic.
02:10:16.010 --> 02:10:17.471
[UNKNOWN]: So it didn't bother me.
02:10:18.351 --> 02:10:28.574
[UNKNOWN]: I was entertained by it, but I can understand why in the middle of this championship match, you know, this guy is trying to pin a pair of pants and the pants kicks out.
02:10:29.895 --> 02:10:33.256
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay, I get it, but his reaction was fucking great though.
02:10:33.276 --> 02:10:37.657
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he sold the shit out of it and look, if you're gonna do that, you gotta go all the way with it.
02:10:37.697 --> 02:10:38.398
[UNKNOWN]: You gotta sell it.
02:10:39.418 --> 02:10:40.318
[UNKNOWN]: But I think that's part of it.
02:10:40.338 --> 02:10:44.480
[UNKNOWN]: He's such a typically serious guy when you see him doing stuff like that.
02:10:45.413 --> 02:10:47.555
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, how can you not, like, just laugh at it?
02:10:48.296 --> 02:10:49.977
[UNKNOWN]: And then we ended up getting a great match out of it.
02:10:49.997 --> 02:10:55.942
[UNKNOWN]: You take that spot, put it on the side, like these two went out there for 20 minutes, and they had just a fucking great match.
02:10:56.603 --> 02:10:57.584
[UNKNOWN]: Champ has been killing it.
02:10:58.585 --> 02:10:59.425
[UNKNOWN]: Champ has been killing it.
02:10:59.445 --> 02:11:05.290
[UNKNOWN]: We talk about people who will leave and go to AWS and then they get lost in the shuffle, they end up on collision most of the time.
02:11:05.951 --> 02:11:07.672
[UNKNOWN]: I'm very happy by and large.
02:11:07.692 --> 02:11:12.697
[UNKNOWN]: I'm very happy with how, you know, Champa, a kind of weird champa, has ended up.
02:11:13.622 --> 02:11:16.444
[UNKNOWN]: He's been able to go out there and have some big matches this year.
02:11:16.484 --> 02:11:17.485
[UNKNOWN]: He's being featured.
02:11:18.085 --> 02:11:20.086
[UNKNOWN]: He was in a title match on the last paper view.
02:11:20.146 --> 02:11:21.808
[UNKNOWN]: He was in a title match on this paper view.
02:11:22.388 --> 02:11:28.572
[UNKNOWN]: I still feel the same way though, as I did last week, which is that he should have been one of the people in Clockwork Carnage.
02:11:28.892 --> 02:11:29.092
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:11:29.633 --> 02:11:38.999
[UNKNOWN]: And I think he should have been the one to get a pin on Will Osprey, so that you can set up Champa and Osprey for full year.
02:11:39.279 --> 02:11:39.760
[UNKNOWN]: That's me.
02:11:44.490 --> 02:11:45.271
[UNKNOWN]: He, they didn't do it.
02:11:45.911 --> 02:11:47.272
[UNKNOWN]: We got this match instead.
02:11:48.192 --> 02:11:49.173
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was excellent.
02:11:49.333 --> 02:11:51.315
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was one of the best things on the entire show.
02:11:51.755 --> 02:11:58.619
[UNKNOWN]: Do we need to start getting champ with some wins and maybe get him a championship like a national title or a TNT title or a continental title?
02:12:00.040 --> 02:12:05.824
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, that's an interesting one because Moxley's helped, well, I'm worried a point now where Moxley is probably not losing it.
02:12:05.964 --> 02:12:10.848
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we're gonna go to the C2 and it's just gonna be up for grabs and he may never actually lose it.
02:12:11.938 --> 02:12:15.380
[UNKNOWN]: If he was going to lose it to anybody, I would love for it to be Champa.
02:12:15.580 --> 02:12:17.200
[UNKNOWN]: And I think we get a great match out of it, too.
02:12:17.220 --> 02:12:17.381
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:12:17.781 --> 02:12:19.181
[UNKNOWN]: I think that we would probably, oh, yeah.
02:12:19.201 --> 02:12:20.982
[UNKNOWN]: Those two would go out there and have a killer match.
02:12:21.302 --> 02:12:24.624
[UNKNOWN]: And I would love to see Champa be the one to take that title from Moxley.
02:12:25.004 --> 02:12:28.005
[UNKNOWN]: I just feel like we're so late in the year and he hasn't dropped it yet.
02:12:28.646 --> 02:12:32.427
[UNKNOWN]: And the C2 literally the C2 was starting in four or five weeks.
02:12:32.568 --> 02:12:32.768
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:12:33.688 --> 02:12:35.109
[UNKNOWN]: So it's probably not going to happen.
02:12:35.829 --> 02:12:38.710
[UNKNOWN]: Champa and Dragon all of on the same roster in the C2.
02:12:39.271 --> 02:12:39.791
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, man.
02:12:40.291 --> 02:12:41.112
[UNKNOWN]: That's great.
02:12:41.172 --> 02:12:44.734
[UNKNOWN]: We got it in WWE on SmackDown, and even there they had a really good match.
02:12:44.834 --> 02:12:46.835
[UNKNOWN]: I think the match they would have here in A.W.
02:12:46.856 --> 02:12:47.616
[UNKNOWN]: would be even better.
02:12:47.856 --> 02:12:48.056
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
02:12:48.316 --> 02:12:48.777
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
02:12:49.677 --> 02:12:53.840
[UNKNOWN]: Paige Brodito, Swerv, new level, trio, championship.
02:12:53.860 --> 02:13:01.846
[UNKNOWN]: This was the only title change on the entire show, but it was what happened at the end that really kind of set the tone for where this could go.
02:13:03.322 --> 02:13:09.764
[UNKNOWN]: After the match was over, Kofi and Creed follow a slam by Bandito.
02:13:10.724 --> 02:13:19.367
[UNKNOWN]: He had bolted them up, X-Neon Swerv, he rolled through Swerv's big pressure into a victory roll for the win and they got the titles back.
02:13:19.907 --> 02:13:24.291
[UNKNOWN]: Now, after the match, Swarov told new level that the new champs didn't deserve the belts.
02:13:24.952 --> 02:13:26.433
[UNKNOWN]: Kofi and Cree didn't listen.
02:13:26.874 --> 02:13:30.417
[UNKNOWN]: They handed their belts to Brodito and then they hug Brodito.
02:13:30.918 --> 02:13:33.040
[UNKNOWN]: So Swarov had his title and he was looking at page.
02:13:33.100 --> 02:13:34.901
[UNKNOWN]: All he had to do was hand page his title.
02:13:35.382 --> 02:13:43.470
[UNKNOWN]: So instead of handing the title to page, he dropped it at his feet and then left the ring, left his teammates and he left on his own.
02:13:44.325 --> 02:13:53.048
[UNKNOWN]: Where are we going, what's where I've Jason is we're going to fully embrace the heel turn now, are we going to continue page and swore of at some point where we're we're going with us.
02:13:54.289 --> 02:14:04.052
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, my my feeling coming out of it is that we may see the the end of this brief alliance between a new level in Swarve, which I think is fine.
02:14:04.152 --> 02:14:08.654
[UNKNOWN]: I don't ever think it was necessarily meant to be like a long term pairing.
02:14:08.754 --> 02:14:12.796
[UNKNOWN]: I think they just really wanted to introduce them in the biggest way possible.
02:14:13.769 --> 02:14:20.099
[UNKNOWN]: And outside of just giving them the tag team titles right out of the gate, they're like, hey, why don't we do something with Swerve and the two of them?
02:14:21.221 --> 02:14:26.349
[UNKNOWN]: And I like that, but there was some disagreement there between them at the end, right?
02:14:26.729 --> 02:14:28.011
[UNKNOWN]: Swerve said they don't deserve them.
02:14:28.031 --> 02:14:28.792
[UNKNOWN]: Don't give them to them.
02:14:29.817 --> 02:14:34.683
[UNKNOWN]: and they gave the belts to them anyway and they shook hands with them and they embraced them and so he didn't seem very happy about that.
02:14:35.304 --> 02:14:45.217
[UNKNOWN]: So I think that they're ultimately going to kind of go their separate ways and begin the march to eventually challenging the bucks for the tag team titles and that'll be their focus.
02:14:45.257 --> 02:14:46.178
[UNKNOWN]: Not the trio's belts.
02:14:47.139 --> 02:14:56.661
[UNKNOWN]: Been there done that, their focus should be the tag team titles and there's plenty of teams for them to work with and to try to run through until they get there.
02:14:57.241 --> 02:15:00.162
[UNKNOWN]: The Motor City Machine Guns and FTR.
02:15:01.302 --> 02:15:03.943
[UNKNOWN]: I think of all the other teams on this roster they haven't worked with.
02:15:05.463 --> 02:15:07.584
[UNKNOWN]: So before you even get to a young box match,
02:15:08.232 --> 02:15:11.113
[UNKNOWN]: There's so many different possibilities for them.
02:15:11.673 --> 02:15:13.874
[UNKNOWN]: They don't need to be doing the trio stuff anymore.
02:15:13.914 --> 02:15:15.535
[UNKNOWN]: It was a great way to introduce them.
02:15:15.975 --> 02:15:16.995
[UNKNOWN]: It's been a couple of months.
02:15:17.715 --> 02:15:18.616
[UNKNOWN]: They dropped the belts.
02:15:19.496 --> 02:15:21.196
[UNKNOWN]: And now it's time for them to move on to the next.
02:15:21.236 --> 02:15:23.157
[UNKNOWN]: And as far as Swarov goes, I don't know.
02:15:23.197 --> 02:15:28.179
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he was a baby face and then he won heel and then he kind of went back to being a baby face.
02:15:29.592 --> 02:15:34.535
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if he's if he's going to be one or the other, I could see him kind of being in the middle.
02:15:36.237 --> 02:15:42.521
[UNKNOWN]: Hangman's a trio's champion again, I don't know, it doesn't feel to me like we're going back to him and swarve in a singles feud.
02:15:43.742 --> 02:15:45.003
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm not.
02:15:45.103 --> 02:15:48.505
[UNKNOWN]: Osprey needs some incredible heels to work with at the top, maybe swarve is one of them.
02:15:51.020 --> 02:15:58.046
[UNKNOWN]: Well, coming at a clockwork carnage, he's got a couple of different people that he could be working with the next one or two paper vehicles.
02:15:58.126 --> 02:16:00.688
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't think they're going into that so quickly.
02:16:00.909 --> 02:16:04.271
[UNKNOWN]: Well, one of them should not be at him Copeland, which we'll talk about in a second here.
02:16:04.351 --> 02:16:05.593
[UNKNOWN]: Dragonoff, he debuted.
02:16:06.553 --> 02:16:07.434
[UNKNOWN]: Um, well, not yet.
02:16:07.514 --> 02:16:08.874
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, Dragon of debuted.
02:16:09.655 --> 02:16:13.917
[UNKNOWN]: And he showed up Renee introduced him as the newest signing to AEW.
02:16:14.037 --> 02:16:17.339
[UNKNOWN]: He comes out to a taking metronome in the Isleway.
02:16:18.099 --> 02:16:20.901
[UNKNOWN]: And he does his, uh, my show of madness, deal.
02:16:21.061 --> 02:16:21.601
[UNKNOWN]: I love that.
02:16:22.262 --> 02:16:24.543
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, the theme music was the first thing I picked up on.
02:16:24.603 --> 02:16:29.105
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't know what it was until I, I did some research read a lot for read.
02:16:29.125 --> 02:16:31.847
[UNKNOWN]: It's a video game for PlayStation and Xbox.
02:16:32.287 --> 02:16:34.708
[UNKNOWN]: And the song is the Soviet March.
02:16:34.788 --> 02:16:35.209
[UNKNOWN]: I believe.
02:16:35.809 --> 02:16:40.430
[UNKNOWN]: This is the theme music he used on the Indies before he joined WWE, you said it.
02:16:40.470 --> 02:16:43.011
[UNKNOWN]: I think on on social media, it's final boss type shared.
02:16:43.031 --> 02:16:44.431
[UNKNOWN]: This was tremendous fucking music.
02:16:44.731 --> 02:16:47.592
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, a W usually nails the music in the presentation.
02:16:47.632 --> 02:16:50.012
[UNKNOWN]: They got it perfect, which ragging off.
02:16:50.373 --> 02:16:51.633
[UNKNOWN]: He looked sharp.
02:16:51.713 --> 02:16:53.833
[UNKNOWN]: I joked that he looked more like a world champion than the last part.
02:16:53.853 --> 02:16:54.774
[UNKNOWN]: It looks like a world champion.
02:16:54.794 --> 02:16:56.474
[UNKNOWN]: He looks tremendous on Saturday night.
02:16:56.914 --> 02:16:59.475
[UNKNOWN]: He looked like a bigger deal here than he ever did in WWE.
02:16:59.515 --> 02:16:59.695
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:17:00.655 --> 02:17:06.441
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he felt like a much bigger deal and they have like the red hue and everything for his entrance and with that music playing.
02:17:07.001 --> 02:17:15.430
[UNKNOWN]: And this is one of the things about AWA, I give Tony Credit for and I love that they do this is that he's not afraid to spend money to get music.
02:17:15.930 --> 02:17:17.552
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to enhance the presentation.
02:17:17.632 --> 02:17:17.792
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:17:19.063 --> 02:17:35.760
[UNKNOWN]: And, and Dragon up, I think he talked about it also in his interview with Ariel Hawani earlier because Ariel asked him about the music and he explained the significance of it and he said, yeah, when he was wrestling independently in Germany, early in his career, he, you know, chose that music and used it and he was so happy to be able to get it back.
02:17:36.481 --> 02:17:49.553
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm happy that that is and is not the first time we've seen that where they pay for the music and I'm glad they do because we talk about it all the time is awful as some of the music is right now in WWE it is such an important part of the presentation.
02:17:50.501 --> 02:17:53.442
[UNKNOWN]: So it may not seem like a big deal, but it really is.
02:17:53.462 --> 02:18:00.865
[UNKNOWN]: Because you heard that music, and you can't tell me that it didn't make him feel like an even bigger deal when he walked out the other day.
02:18:00.905 --> 02:18:01.966
[UNKNOWN]: He was feeling it, too.
02:18:02.026 --> 02:18:04.347
[UNKNOWN]: He was getting all up and his emotions and everything.
02:18:04.427 --> 02:18:06.608
[UNKNOWN]: I said, when he went to the back, he was fucking tripping sweat.
02:18:07.708 --> 02:18:08.368
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I loved it.
02:18:08.388 --> 02:18:11.390
[UNKNOWN]: I thought the presentation was top notch and made him feel like a top guy.
02:18:13.170 --> 02:18:19.313
[UNKNOWN]: Watching him on Saturday, it really, again, I don't want to sit here and say that he's definitely going to be a world champion.
02:18:20.333 --> 02:18:24.218
[UNKNOWN]: That guy that we saw on the ring on Saturday could be AEW World Champion.
02:18:24.318 --> 02:18:26.901
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, could 100% without it without a doubt.
02:18:27.321 --> 02:18:30.745
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't just mean, well, of course, he can hang with those guys.
02:18:30.765 --> 02:18:32.207
[UNKNOWN]: We're not that that's not what I mean.
02:18:32.287 --> 02:18:35.111
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, like Tony could see him as somebody like, oh, shit.
02:18:35.211 --> 02:18:38.174
[UNKNOWN]: Like, okay, this is a guy that's six months from now.
02:18:38.935 --> 02:18:41.737
[UNKNOWN]: Could be in that mix and could very well hold that title.
02:18:41.757 --> 02:18:45.160
[UNKNOWN]: Like he has that about him right now.
02:18:45.841 --> 02:18:51.245
[UNKNOWN]: All these got to do is go out there and just deliver in the ring and we know he can skies the limit for him.
02:18:51.826 --> 02:18:59.552
[UNKNOWN]: I think that this is such a Like it's just such fertile ground as far as all the different people that he could work with and with the C2 coming up.
02:18:59.572 --> 02:19:00.953
[UNKNOWN]: The timing couldn't be any better.
02:19:00.993 --> 02:19:02.875
[UNKNOWN]: I was talking about that the other day.
02:19:02.935 --> 02:19:03.195
[UNKNOWN]: It's like
02:19:04.858 --> 02:19:17.082
[UNKNOWN]: It's not just Champa, it's Champa, it's Joe, it's Claudio, it's Tequestad, MJF, it's all these different people that he's never been in the ring with or in some cases if he has, it's been a long time.
02:19:18.062 --> 02:19:23.584
[UNKNOWN]: But in an A, W, ring, I just feel like in some ways, maybe some of the handcuffs are off.
02:19:24.544 --> 02:19:27.705
[UNKNOWN]: And he can go out there and we know the style he works, right?
02:19:27.725 --> 02:19:29.606
[UNKNOWN]: He's not, he's not afraid to lay his shit in.
02:19:30.866 --> 02:19:33.447
[UNKNOWN]: This is the perfect place for him, I think, to play his craft.
02:19:34.442 --> 02:19:39.985
[UNKNOWN]: I, I look at it as, you know, early on, I didn't see Kyle Fletcher when he broke away from Davis and went single.
02:19:40.025 --> 02:19:44.928
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't look at him as a World Champion, slowly, but surely he, he absolutely will be a World Champion.
02:19:44.968 --> 02:19:53.393
[UNKNOWN]: Now I see him as a World Champion, Swarov, when he came in, he wasn't really World Champion material and he grew into the role and he made himself a name.
02:19:53.953 --> 02:19:57.255
[UNKNOWN]: He built his, his resume and became a champion.
02:19:57.275 --> 02:19:59.797
[UNKNOWN]: I could see, I could see Dragon of following in the same kind of,
02:20:00.377 --> 02:20:04.583
[UNKNOWN]: path as a swerve and give them some time, give them a year.
02:20:05.104 --> 02:20:06.686
[UNKNOWN]: We may be having a different discussion right now.
02:20:06.706 --> 02:20:12.214
[UNKNOWN]: You might not think he's watching it, but I very much think he's going to be a world champion.
02:20:12.615 --> 02:20:13.175
[UNKNOWN]: Give her a take.
02:20:13.215 --> 02:20:15.699
[UNKNOWN]: I would say anywhere between 12 to 18 months is a world champion.
02:20:17.777 --> 02:20:22.564
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, again, I can't say that it's going to, you know, definitely within a year.
02:20:22.604 --> 02:20:23.325
[UNKNOWN]: This is going to happen.
02:20:23.345 --> 02:20:30.616
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying, like, some guys come in and it's like, all right, they'll do well, but like I don't necessarily see them being the guy holding the belt.
02:20:31.537 --> 02:20:32.999
[UNKNOWN]: He could be the guy holding the belt.
02:20:33.915 --> 02:20:34.495
[UNKNOWN]: at some point.
02:20:35.636 --> 02:20:50.444
[UNKNOWN]: And that fan base I'm sure is going to embrace him like there was some AW fans I think was on X who they truly some of them don't watch WWE so they were asking about him and they were saying I haven't seen much of him can you point me to link to his favorite matches and stuff.
02:20:50.984 --> 02:20:58.669
[UNKNOWN]: If you're someone who is not familiar with his work because you just didn't watch NXT you didn't watch WWE like he's going to fit
02:21:01.797 --> 02:21:03.357
[UNKNOWN]: because he's going to go out there and what does he do?
02:21:03.917 --> 02:21:05.478
[UNKNOWN]: He wrestles, right?
02:21:05.758 --> 02:21:09.319
[UNKNOWN]: No one's going to look at him and go, man, he's the most charismatic guy in the roster.
02:21:09.379 --> 02:21:19.161
[UNKNOWN]: He's no, but he goes out there and he has great wrestling matches and that's what got him over on Smackdown when they put the US title on.
02:21:19.181 --> 02:21:20.881
[UNKNOWN]: Which is why I hate that they let him go.
02:21:21.721 --> 02:21:22.561
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't want to pay him.
02:21:23.162 --> 02:21:24.962
[UNKNOWN]: And he was the same thing with Carmelo Hayes.
02:21:25.827 --> 02:21:45.090
[UNKNOWN]: There were people making similar comments while mellow he doesn't have what it takes to be a top guy's not over he goes out there and sometimes the crowd's quiet for his matches until they put the US title on him and they let him go out there and what and let him do what wrestle work and the Yeah, work is ass off and the fans began to respond what a novel concept
02:21:45.590 --> 02:21:54.180
[UNKNOWN]: So in AW I think he will do very well and all the different people he has right now in front of him to work with that he's never been in the ring with before.
02:21:55.301 --> 02:21:57.604
[UNKNOWN]: Shitmen and and Jack that shit into my veins.
02:21:57.644 --> 02:21:58.305
[UNKNOWN]: I'm ready for it.
02:21:59.293 --> 02:22:07.417
[UNKNOWN]: John Moxley, Mark Davis, this was for the Continental Championship, Moxley had lost the Davis twice previously coming into them.
02:22:07.497 --> 02:22:10.138
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, him and Mark Davis, what are you talking about?
02:22:11.018 --> 02:22:11.458
[UNKNOWN]: Dragon off.
02:22:12.479 --> 02:22:13.899
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, him and Mark, I know you would love that.
02:22:13.919 --> 02:22:14.900
[UNKNOWN]: You're a big Mark Davis guy.
02:22:15.140 --> 02:22:16.160
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
02:22:16.180 --> 02:22:17.781
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that would be great.
02:22:17.801 --> 02:22:20.362
[UNKNOWN]: Imagine then both, I could see Mark Davis in the continent of the classic.
02:22:21.203 --> 02:22:22.563
[UNKNOWN]: I actually expect that to be the case.
02:22:23.003 --> 02:22:25.685
[UNKNOWN]: Well, of course, he'll be the one taking most of the past.
02:22:25.705 --> 02:22:25.945
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
02:22:26.713 --> 02:22:36.038
[UNKNOWN]: So, Marksley had lost the Davis twice previously, and Marksley was down on his luck here with the, also with the death of pack, weighing on him.
02:22:36.598 --> 02:22:41.861
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he's kind of dipping in and out of like he can't handle on other stuff anymore.
02:22:41.901 --> 02:22:42.782
[UNKNOWN]: He's just losing his mind.
02:22:43.542 --> 02:22:49.484
[UNKNOWN]: So in this match, there was a moment when Marina and Danny Garcia gave him a pep talk, he was bleeding at this point.
02:22:50.044 --> 02:22:51.225
[UNKNOWN]: Mark Davis is beating them up.
02:22:51.705 --> 02:23:01.328
[UNKNOWN]: He ends up getting the win over Mark Davis here, pulls it out, come from behind victory, and he got the brutalizer on points on Mark Davis.
02:23:01.348 --> 02:23:05.029
[UNKNOWN]: He moved to a body sister sleeper, and then at that point, Mark Davis had faded.
02:23:05.169 --> 02:23:05.989
[UNKNOWN]: He did not tap out.
02:23:06.009 --> 02:23:07.090
[UNKNOWN]: He just ended up passing out.
02:23:07.650 --> 02:23:17.161
[UNKNOWN]: So it moxley took a lot of beating from Davis here, Jason Davis got the two old advantage going into this match, where moxley getting the W here and the most important match for the content of the title.
02:23:17.842 --> 02:23:18.582
[UNKNOWN]: So I ask you,
02:23:19.743 --> 02:23:22.604
[UNKNOWN]: Moxley not losing that belt at any times any time soon.
02:23:22.945 --> 02:23:25.065
[UNKNOWN]: He's been the content of the champion since forever.
02:23:25.926 --> 02:23:28.067
[UNKNOWN]: Does the loss for mock Davis here.
02:23:28.887 --> 02:23:38.732
[UNKNOWN]: Mean what what does it mean that that does he get two wins over Moxley does it make him look better than before all this or with him losing this match doesn't not mean anything does it erase those two victories over Moxley.
02:23:39.712 --> 02:23:45.655
[UNKNOWN]: I mean I think that those victories were just it was just a means to get a match out of it on the paper view.
02:23:47.127 --> 02:23:49.228
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, he got beat and that's it.
02:23:49.468 --> 02:23:51.208
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's anything more to it than that.
02:23:51.828 --> 02:23:53.709
[UNKNOWN]: This is the match we're coming into what I was like.
02:23:53.729 --> 02:23:55.269
[UNKNOWN]: This doesn't really need to be on this show.
02:23:55.429 --> 02:23:55.609
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:23:56.470 --> 02:24:00.031
[UNKNOWN]: Then I saw the match and I will say they had an excellent match.
02:24:01.011 --> 02:24:04.952
[UNKNOWN]: And the story they told, they almost had no choice.
02:24:05.953 --> 02:24:21.019
[UNKNOWN]: they incorporated what's been going on with the death writers of the last few weeks since pack past away because they had Renee out there telling the story telling you and we talk about story she was laying the whole story out there as moxley was making his way out to the ring that nobody has really
02:24:21.826 --> 02:24:35.842
[UNKNOWN]: You know, had a tougher time these last three weeks and the death riders and no one more than Moxley and if you watch what happened at the end of that dynamite show into the third hour, the collision hour on Wednesday, Moxley kind of had like a melt now.
02:24:35.902 --> 02:24:39.847
[UNKNOWN]: He was backstage screaming and throwing furniture and stuff like he was just losing it.
02:24:40.790 --> 02:24:43.411
[UNKNOWN]: And even during this match, first of all, he bled my god.
02:24:43.451 --> 02:24:45.271
[UNKNOWN]: The fucking blade job he did in this match.
02:24:46.211 --> 02:24:48.692
[UNKNOWN]: Bleed, no, I thought he lost half the blood in his body.
02:24:48.712 --> 02:24:50.712
[UNKNOWN]: He was just dripping off the ropes.
02:24:50.772 --> 02:24:51.653
[UNKNOWN]: It was disgusting.
02:24:52.513 --> 02:24:59.774
[UNKNOWN]: And then at one point during the match, he's kind of backed up against the barricades sitting there and Marina Schaffier and Daniel Garcia come out.
02:24:59.934 --> 02:25:02.955
[UNKNOWN]: And I guess because of the rules, they can't come over the barricades.
02:25:02.975 --> 02:25:10.057
[UNKNOWN]: So they're kind of leaning over trying to really like, just pep him up and try to talk some some energy back into them.
02:25:10.977 --> 02:25:18.923
[UNKNOWN]: and so he gets back into it, and he ends up making the value come back and he chokes out Mark Davis and he wins, and then he was very emotional when the match was over.
02:25:19.564 --> 02:25:27.530
[UNKNOWN]: So they tried to incorporate that into the match, like he's been through a lot, he's lost a couple of friends over the last, you know, month or two, and it's been weighing on him.
02:25:27.550 --> 02:25:35.415
[UNKNOWN]: Because remember when they showed that promo at the beginning of the packed tribute show, which was fucking eerie, right, and pack a standing there.
02:25:35.435 --> 02:25:37.197
[UNKNOWN]: The person he was really referencing
02:25:40.035 --> 02:25:41.776
[UNKNOWN]: So I guess the butcher was a friend of his.
02:25:41.856 --> 02:25:45.939
[UNKNOWN]: So he lost a couple of people over the last couple of months.
02:25:47.120 --> 02:25:55.186
[UNKNOWN]: I think they incorporated it respectfully without it feeling like gratuitous or like they're exploiting it just for a wrestling storyline.
02:25:56.207 --> 02:25:57.708
[UNKNOWN]: You got to be careful with how you do that.
02:25:57.748 --> 02:25:59.049
[UNKNOWN]: I thought they did a good job with it.
02:25:59.069 --> 02:26:01.771
[UNKNOWN]: There was an actual story there that they were trying to tell.
02:26:02.632 --> 02:26:05.474
[UNKNOWN]: So when it was over, again, I thought it was really good stuff.
02:26:05.574 --> 02:26:06.855
[UNKNOWN]: It still felt to me like,
02:26:08.280 --> 02:26:09.801
[UNKNOWN]: did we need it on this show?
02:26:10.542 --> 02:26:12.964
[UNKNOWN]: No, I think you could have trimmed one or two off.
02:26:13.925 --> 02:26:17.068
[UNKNOWN]: But I thought they told a good story for what they were trying to do here.
02:26:19.090 --> 02:26:22.313
[UNKNOWN]: Well, like a collusion main event, if you ask me, but they tried.
02:26:22.954 --> 02:26:23.914
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't really care.
02:26:23.934 --> 02:26:25.636
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the Mark Davis is a great wrestler.
02:26:25.656 --> 02:26:28.879
[UNKNOWN]: Moxley, when he needs the wrestle, he's a great wrestler.
02:26:28.979 --> 02:26:30.140
[UNKNOWN]: I don't really care about any of this.
02:26:30.320 --> 02:26:33.063
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly, I get what they're going for, but it's not interesting to me.
02:26:34.455 --> 02:26:49.069
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Osprey, clockwork carnage, his inception, his creation here, eight men, two men star, new entry, it comes in every three minutes, which they had a countdown clock for, so you know that it was three minutes and not some randomized fucking time interval.
02:26:49.770 --> 02:26:53.554
[UNKNOWN]: Pins were submissions eliminate you until all eight are in.
02:26:53.594 --> 02:26:54.514
[UNKNOWN]: That is the first face.
02:26:55.324 --> 02:27:05.310
[UNKNOWN]: And then after all eight men are in the next phase, phase two is a 15 minute, I guess, iron survivor match where scoring period starts in every penance emission counts for a point.
02:27:06.128 --> 02:27:11.749
[UNKNOWN]: So the entry order here for this match was well asked where I started things off with Kanozuka Takeshita Mike Bailey came in at number three.
02:27:11.809 --> 02:27:13.990
[UNKNOWN]: Ricochet was four Darby Allen was number five.
02:27:14.030 --> 02:27:17.911
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, caught it was number six Adam Copeland was number seven and some I would Joe was number eight.
02:27:17.931 --> 02:27:23.412
[UNKNOWN]: So Mojo got the best spot here because he guaranteed him going into the second phase because he was the last guy out.
02:27:23.792 --> 02:27:30.314
[UNKNOWN]: This is like a gauntlet match put in the typical A, W gauntlet match is where you start the match is most important because the match could end at any point.
02:27:30.814 --> 02:27:33.775
[UNKNOWN]: You can pin that guy that you're in the ring with at the start of the match and match could be over.
02:27:34.255 --> 02:27:35.776
[UNKNOWN]: Here, you got to be Joe.
02:27:35.796 --> 02:27:37.457
[UNKNOWN]: You go, grab the last spot.
02:27:37.477 --> 02:27:38.878
[UNKNOWN]: You go to the next phase, guaranteed.
02:27:39.958 --> 02:27:42.860
[UNKNOWN]: I will leave the floor up to you, man.
02:27:43.581 --> 02:27:45.001
[UNKNOWN]: I will give my thoughts after you're done.
02:27:45.282 --> 02:27:48.363
[UNKNOWN]: I am very kind of wishy washing on this.
02:27:48.443 --> 02:27:49.464
[UNKNOWN]: I have the jury still out.
02:27:49.584 --> 02:27:50.845
[UNKNOWN]: What'd you think of Clockwork Orange?
02:27:52.747 --> 02:27:59.012
[UNKNOWN]: When it was over, I felt like this is not something that needs to be wanted, like one and done.
02:27:59.693 --> 02:28:00.794
[UNKNOWN]: Like never do it again.
02:28:01.754 --> 02:28:02.575
[UNKNOWN]: They can do it again.
02:28:02.595 --> 02:28:06.778
[UNKNOWN]: I never really want to see it as a paper view made event, though, ever again.
02:28:07.819 --> 02:28:08.520
[UNKNOWN]: That I know with.
02:28:09.080 --> 02:28:18.628
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I also feel like my big takeaway from this is that this gimmick would work best when there is a vacant championship.
02:28:19.811 --> 02:28:24.896
[UNKNOWN]: So if you run into a situation where you have no champion, and that doesn't mean it has to be the world title, it could be any title.
02:28:25.576 --> 02:28:31.842
[UNKNOWN]: When you have a vacant title, you are guaranteed to crown a new champion, and it's anybody's ball game.
02:28:32.422 --> 02:28:34.324
[UNKNOWN]: This stipulation would work a lot better.
02:28:35.725 --> 02:28:43.512
[UNKNOWN]: And in this case, we all knew Osprey wasn't gonna lose the belt obviously, but it didn't help again, just how thrown together it all fell.
02:28:45.215 --> 02:28:46.857
[UNKNOWN]: And that worked against it.
02:28:47.637 --> 02:28:49.459
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was it was good.
02:28:49.979 --> 02:28:50.900
[UNKNOWN]: It was in great.
02:28:50.980 --> 02:28:59.287
[UNKNOWN]: It was actually one of the weaker paper view made events of the year on an AW show and it was one of those rare times where I felt like it wasn't long enough.
02:29:00.966 --> 02:29:06.371
[UNKNOWN]: The believe it or not, believe it or not, the second half of that match being 15 minutes is way too short.
02:29:06.631 --> 02:29:06.811
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:29:07.352 --> 02:29:11.696
[UNKNOWN]: And I think they need to take a page or they're gonna do this again out of the Iron Survivor Challenge.
02:29:11.716 --> 02:29:13.057
[UNKNOWN]: That matches 25 minutes.
02:29:13.778 --> 02:29:17.701
[UNKNOWN]: I think the second half of that match needs to be at least 20, if not 25.
02:29:18.602 --> 02:29:23.026
[UNKNOWN]: Because, and this was the biggest thing that fucking bothered me about this.
02:29:23.307 --> 02:29:24.448
[UNKNOWN]: It's just so ridiculous.
02:29:25.390 --> 02:29:27.051
[UNKNOWN]: How many times, and even on this show?
02:29:27.091 --> 02:29:30.093
[UNKNOWN]: How many times do we watch an AW show?
02:29:30.193 --> 02:29:34.316
[UNKNOWN]: Let alone a paper view, and everybody kicks out of everything.
02:29:35.483 --> 02:29:38.226
[UNKNOWN]: Every finishing move away you go with this bro.
02:29:38.287 --> 02:29:40.669
[UNKNOWN]: I said the same fucking thing on my end.
02:29:40.689 --> 02:29:44.454
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it just like over and over and over again.
02:29:44.494 --> 02:29:45.595
[UNKNOWN]: We saw it on this show.
02:29:46.296 --> 02:29:50.601
[UNKNOWN]: It's impossible to beat anybody with an actual finishing move unless you hit it five times.
02:29:50.661 --> 02:29:55.487
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you and yet here in this match and this was more in the second half of this match.
02:29:56.983 --> 02:30:18.457
[UNKNOWN]: whether it was Darby hitting a coffin drop on the fucking champion or whatever whatever it may have been guys were going down left and right to one move yeah and like why all of a sudden how does this make any sense especially with the championship on line you would think there would be an even greater sense of urgency and people would be kicking out of stuff
02:30:19.433 --> 02:30:23.517
[UNKNOWN]: Now they decide to say you know what, one move is good enough to beat people.
02:30:23.557 --> 02:30:23.757
[UNKNOWN]: Why?
02:30:23.797 --> 02:30:27.400
[UNKNOWN]: Because they wanted people to start racking up points because that's the stipulation.
02:30:27.440 --> 02:30:30.123
[UNKNOWN]: You got to rack up points whoever has the most points wins.
02:30:31.112 --> 02:30:38.334
[UNKNOWN]: But it flies in the face of every other main event that we have seen on an AWP review the entire year where they are kicking out of everything.
02:30:38.954 --> 02:30:41.315
[UNKNOWN]: Now they can't kick out of one fucking move.
02:30:41.515 --> 02:30:45.736
[UNKNOWN]: The last match we saw, Osprey hit two hit in blades of fucking nuts.
02:30:46.336 --> 02:30:50.818
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well he hit the Oscar, he hits Stormbreaker, everyone kicks out.
02:30:51.498 --> 02:30:52.778
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes.
02:30:53.018 --> 02:30:58.440
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he was in the main event with Sean Moxley and all out he got hit in the head with a fucking briefcase and he kicked out.
02:30:59.452 --> 02:31:10.439
[UNKNOWN]: I think we had this in the match with Ocada and France even the week before and it's like he kicked out of I think maybe a rainmaker or whatever it was and it's like but now all of the sudden guys who go and down left right to like the simplest of moves.
02:31:11.400 --> 02:31:18.704
[UNKNOWN]: Now they decide to finally smarten up when it comes to this stuff and not just go crazy on the finish and so there was a disconnect there that I could not ignore.
02:31:19.104 --> 02:31:23.767
[UNKNOWN]: It was so fucking obvious and I'm like this is just so it's just so ridiculous.
02:31:24.468 --> 02:31:27.510
[UNKNOWN]: So that was the biggest like fucking mark against this match.
02:31:28.365 --> 02:31:30.507
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I don't need to see this as a paper view made of it.
02:31:30.587 --> 02:31:37.933
[UNKNOWN]: I frankly, I think if they wanted to use it even as a TV gimmick, I mean, I know it would suck being interrupted by commercials, but I mean, the same thing happened in life.
02:31:37.953 --> 02:31:40.255
[UNKNOWN]: Well, if that's the case, they have to get rid of their regular gaunt.
02:31:40.275 --> 02:31:41.817
[UNKNOWN]: This needs to be the new gauntlet, Maxen.
02:31:41.917 --> 02:31:43.178
[UNKNOWN]: They can't do the other gauntlet matches.
02:31:44.179 --> 02:31:47.021
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you can, but you guys.
02:31:47.041 --> 02:31:47.622
[UNKNOWN]: And he got cut.
02:31:47.882 --> 02:31:48.823
[UNKNOWN]: He was in the middle of a point.
02:31:48.843 --> 02:31:49.623
[UNKNOWN]: He got cut.
02:31:49.663 --> 02:31:51.305
[UNKNOWN]: I thought we were going to be spared.
02:31:52.786 --> 02:31:53.767
[UNKNOWN]: With Schreemeyard.
02:31:54.147 --> 02:31:54.568
[UNKNOWN]: God.
02:31:56.047 --> 02:31:58.228
[UNKNOWN]: I apologize, guys, you got, he'll be back in a second.
02:32:00.009 --> 02:32:00.610
[UNKNOWN]: We'll pick it up.
02:32:01.490 --> 02:32:03.711
[UNKNOWN]: I said the same thing on my end with Jesse.
02:32:03.831 --> 02:32:04.232
[UNKNOWN]: There he is.
02:32:05.552 --> 02:32:05.872
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
02:32:05.932 --> 02:32:06.533
[UNKNOWN]: As I would say.
02:32:06.713 --> 02:32:10.875
[UNKNOWN]: As you would say, I said that I don't want to see the other gauntlet matches and then you said you can.
02:32:11.115 --> 02:32:11.556
[UNKNOWN]: So pick up.
02:32:11.576 --> 02:32:12.216
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:32:12.556 --> 02:32:15.158
[UNKNOWN]: You can do the gauntlet once if it's like all in.
02:32:15.198 --> 02:32:15.698
[UNKNOWN]: That's fine.
02:32:16.230 --> 02:32:28.881
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what you I think you're talking about is sometimes they'll do it on dynamite So this for all in a break or a fucking fighter fest or whatever the fucking case Yes, so just as long as you don't run the gauntlet into the ground if you do it once a year on one big show That's fine.
02:32:28.901 --> 02:32:35.748
[UNKNOWN]: You can still do this but I agree You don't want to be doing two three four fucking gauntlets throughout the year plus a clock or a carnage match
02:32:36.448 --> 02:32:38.070
[UNKNOWN]: This, this would work better.
02:32:38.370 --> 02:32:43.995
[UNKNOWN]: Like I said, it really would work better if it was for a vacant title, but this does not need to be a paper view made of it.
02:32:44.015 --> 02:32:51.622
[UNKNOWN]: You could even use this to crown maybe a number one contender and do it as like a big gimmick match in the middle of a show maybe once a year if you wanted to.
02:32:51.703 --> 02:32:52.764
[UNKNOWN]: And the winner gets full gear.
02:32:53.624 --> 02:32:56.785
[UNKNOWN]: Sure, but as a main event like this, this this doesn't work.
02:32:57.045 --> 02:33:01.406
[UNKNOWN]: No, so you can do it You got to tweak a few things about it.
02:33:02.666 --> 02:33:15.690
[UNKNOWN]: I Wouldn't junk it, but that is one of the big things that they need to change that that last half of it needs to be longer And you couldn't do it on this show without cutting one or two matches if you would have cut one or two matches Let's say that continental match for example
02:33:16.426 --> 02:33:18.408
[UNKNOWN]: then you could have had a ten minutes on to this one.
02:33:18.428 --> 02:33:18.588
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
02:33:19.469 --> 02:33:30.498
[UNKNOWN]: It actually did if it felt like it wasn't long enough and the other thing I noticed also was there were a lot of guys who were just kind of laying around at different points like outside the ring and they left the ring to two guys and then those guys would go.
02:33:31.299 --> 02:33:35.923
[UNKNOWN]: And that that just didn't work for me either like why wasn't there a greater sense of urgency here.
02:33:36.483 --> 02:33:49.410
[UNKNOWN]: Why didn't they maybe it maybe they should have that is some sort of like false kind anywhere aspect to it where you would have had because we see so many matches that it's just chaos like people are growing there and they're fighting there and they're fighting there and it makes it more exciting.
02:33:50.431 --> 02:33:54.133
[UNKNOWN]: That when you have a match like this and you don't have that, it's not as exciting.
02:33:55.313 --> 02:34:02.057
[UNKNOWN]: So I think that there are tweaks that you make to it, you can bring it back just I don't want to see this as an annual main event at WrestleDream.
02:34:02.877 --> 02:34:03.598
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it works.
02:34:04.040 --> 02:34:04.942
[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't think it works.
02:34:04.982 --> 02:34:10.733
[UNKNOWN]: If I were a title that doesn't work, middle of the show had it really be like a kind of...
02:34:12.208 --> 02:34:21.913
[UNKNOWN]: like a themed match for a specific paper viewing this case, Russell Dream, what happened every October, winter gets, they don't want to contend their ship, get the world title magic and swim over the champion is that full gear.
02:34:21.993 --> 02:34:22.673
[UNKNOWN]: I like that idea.
02:34:23.494 --> 02:34:36.040
[UNKNOWN]: Jessie and I talked about maybe kind of incorporating, I'm not a big fan of the 15 minute scoring period thing, even though the ionist survivor has become like a thing, and I don't really mind that for deadline and XT in December.
02:34:37.179 --> 02:34:40.944
[UNKNOWN]: you knew coming into this that let me read the line score here.
02:34:41.085 --> 02:34:42.086
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody ended up.
02:34:42.687 --> 02:34:48.996
[UNKNOWN]: We had the final score was aspirated three, Copeland two, Darby two, Joe two, O'Cottle one, Ricochet one.
02:34:49.657 --> 02:34:52.421
[UNKNOWN]: Because to catch that and speedball got eliminated in the first phase.
02:34:53.673 --> 02:34:57.779
[UNKNOWN]: And then Osprey gets the final fall with four seconds left to spare.
02:34:57.819 --> 02:35:07.932
[UNKNOWN]: And when that fall counted, or that point was at it to Osprey, the crowd went fucking numb, they literally no reaction.
02:35:08.860 --> 02:35:18.884
[UNKNOWN]: I hate when they Tony Conner Triple H has the run the fucking clock out and then with three seconds left the last guy gets the final pinfall or a submission to get that final point.
02:35:19.185 --> 02:35:20.565
[UNKNOWN]: I find that to be incredibly cringy.
02:35:21.325 --> 02:35:25.407
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if I'd eliminate the scoring portion of this and kind of change the rules.
02:35:25.447 --> 02:35:29.529
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe I said, why don't we do something similar to Aztec warfare?
02:35:29.869 --> 02:35:31.150
[UNKNOWN]: I loved Aztec warfare.
02:35:31.770 --> 02:35:34.331
[UNKNOWN]: Like more men stretch it out longer.
02:35:34.371 --> 02:35:36.392
[UNKNOWN]: Have it be a destination match for a paper view.
02:35:36.732 --> 02:35:39.753
[UNKNOWN]: Like you said, pins, count, and ask like, Warfare, why not go that route?
02:35:40.053 --> 02:35:40.994
[UNKNOWN]: Add more people to it.
02:35:41.414 --> 02:35:41.994
[UNKNOWN]: Make it fun.
02:35:42.314 --> 02:35:46.076
[UNKNOWN]: Make it make it the AEW version of a mini Royal Rumble.
02:35:47.837 --> 02:35:48.497
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I would do.
02:35:50.298 --> 02:35:55.600
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and the Aztec warfare match, when I first saw it and I was reviewing it on the sound though, back then.
02:35:55.660 --> 02:35:57.501
[UNKNOWN]: I said, this is actually better.
02:35:57.521 --> 02:36:00.042
[UNKNOWN]: They found a way to make a Rumble that was better than the Rumble.
02:36:01.244 --> 02:36:08.027
[UNKNOWN]: So I, I would have no issue with them adopting the ass day warfare match, calling it, you know, you can call it whatever you want.
02:36:08.067 --> 02:36:10.308
[UNKNOWN]: As you said, the sleeping on the outside got a little ridiculous.
02:36:10.328 --> 02:36:12.048
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, happens every fucking ultimate match.
02:36:12.088 --> 02:36:16.250
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't happen in money in the back and with only 15 minutes, then make any sense.
02:36:16.270 --> 02:36:17.330
[UNKNOWN]: What are they laying around for?
02:36:18.451 --> 02:36:21.832
[UNKNOWN]: So that's why I said, if you're going to do this again, you have to make it 20 or 25 minutes.
02:36:22.593 --> 02:36:26.054
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't mind the scoring portion as much, but you got to add more time to it.
02:36:26.989 --> 02:36:30.150
[UNKNOWN]: That was my biggest knock on the kind of second half of this.
02:36:31.070 --> 02:36:36.312
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm glad they eliminated a couple of people in the first half, so you don't have all eight of them there at the end.
02:36:36.332 --> 02:36:44.134
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I would say I'd just see it to Keshe and not make it to that next phase, but maybe I would've left Ricochet out and put to Keshe in there.
02:36:44.174 --> 02:36:45.674
[UNKNOWN]: But I mean, now we're kind of quibbling.
02:36:46.634 --> 02:36:49.275
[UNKNOWN]: So again, it's a little bit of everything, man.
02:36:49.335 --> 02:36:52.776
[UNKNOWN]: It's not a perfect concept, but it's not total garbage.
02:36:53.016 --> 02:36:54.076
[UNKNOWN]: I think you can fix it.
02:36:57.519 --> 02:37:05.981
[UNKNOWN]: But I just, I don't want to see this as the annual restful dream main event they were talking about it at the scrum after like, you know, oh, this is going to be an annual thing now.
02:37:06.001 --> 02:37:12.263
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, oh, yeah, because I just, I don't want that to become a thing where this is how restful dream is every year.
02:37:12.403 --> 02:37:15.203
[UNKNOWN]: We have, you know, the eight men and the world titles on the line.
02:37:15.263 --> 02:37:22.205
[UNKNOWN]: And one of these years, sure, you can shock people by having the champion get bounced out of the first phase.
02:37:22.265 --> 02:37:23.525
[UNKNOWN]: But that's like a rare thing.
02:37:23.565 --> 02:37:25.346
[UNKNOWN]: Otherwise, it's going to be highly predictable.
02:37:26.267 --> 02:37:37.793
[UNKNOWN]: every year when you do this yeah, and then it's to be a better preparation for going into next year that the qualifying matches cannot be loaded on to one show a week before the Falcon ship or as predictable as yeah as always predictable as they were.
02:37:37.813 --> 02:37:38.433
[UNKNOWN]: I mean it was fun.
02:37:38.473 --> 02:37:50.119
[UNKNOWN]: It made the whole show worthless to even watch I thought he would throw like one surprise in there and literally like right down the line Copeland to Casto caught a fucking shot Yeah, right a soft thing to be a break
02:37:54.242 --> 02:38:03.308
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, well, and with this, the big story coming out of this match is Adam Copeland shoved the Osprey after that final point got added to Osprey to him, retaining the championship.
02:38:03.328 --> 02:38:04.649
[UNKNOWN]: He ended up shaking his hand.
02:38:05.509 --> 02:38:08.311
[UNKNOWN]: Obviously Copeland announced on Wednesday that is retiring in 2027.
02:38:08.331 --> 02:38:11.573
[UNKNOWN]: It will be his last year as an active professional wrestler.
02:38:12.594 --> 02:38:20.339
[UNKNOWN]: It certainly looks like Adam Copeland is going to be aiming to get one final world championship under his belt before he retires.
02:38:21.900 --> 02:38:23.101
[UNKNOWN]: I, if I'm Tony Khan,
02:38:24.226 --> 02:38:26.052
[UNKNOWN]: I pray to God that this man is having...
02:38:27.101 --> 02:38:54.366
[UNKNOWN]: uh... real talk with himself or others are talking for for uh... a couple in an aspirate for this match not to happen i hope someone is going to be in tony's here can't do this boss we can't do it right now i do not want to see this match right now aspirates not the guy for coping to beat for the world championship you you make that the end goal book starting backwards that's what you want to go that's what you want to be book backwards that's what Paul Hayman says
02:38:56.976 --> 02:39:02.926
[UNKNOWN]: mjf comes back wins the title whenever end of the year going into next year mjf holds the title.
02:39:03.607 --> 02:39:08.335
[UNKNOWN]: Adam Colpin versus mjf is the last match for Adam Colpin and he takes the belt from mjf.
02:39:08.415 --> 02:39:09.517
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's the play to do it.
02:39:09.798 --> 02:39:11.020
[UNKNOWN]: That's the only guy that it works with.
02:39:12.283 --> 02:39:18.387
[UNKNOWN]: And I know that Tony Con is going to book an Adam Colbin retirement year very well as we have staying to reference off of.
02:39:18.587 --> 02:39:21.189
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's going to be tremendous and he's going to give back to Adam Colbin the way.
02:39:21.209 --> 02:39:22.129
[UNKNOWN]: Adam Colbin deserves it.
02:39:22.470 --> 02:39:25.552
[UNKNOWN]: Adam Colbin, sure, is going to have his story close the way he wants.
02:39:25.952 --> 02:39:28.834
[UNKNOWN]: But I think MJF Jason is the right guy for when and where I don't know.
02:39:29.394 --> 02:39:30.195
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's the right play.
02:39:31.836 --> 02:39:34.817
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that match has to happen no matter what, right?
02:39:34.838 --> 02:39:35.498
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it has to.
02:39:36.583 --> 02:40:02.672
[UNKNOWN]: the promos between them would be really good tremendous right not just the match so mjf would be a fine final opponent i i actually think there's still a chance that they run back edge and christian one more time at the very end there even though we've seen it already in this company a bunch of times i mean that would actually make more sense if it was going to end up being christians last match two yeah you have them rest of each other there at the end and you book that show in toronto i mean it just sells itself so yeah i don't i don't disagree with that i mean uh
02:40:03.903 --> 02:40:05.485
[UNKNOWN]: him and him and Osprey is going to happen.
02:40:05.505 --> 02:40:07.327
[UNKNOWN]: They've teased it too much even after the show.
02:40:07.347 --> 02:40:11.872
[UNKNOWN]: They they kind of ran into each other in the hallway backstage and Osprey said to him.
02:40:11.892 --> 02:40:14.394
[UNKNOWN]: So next year, this is that true.
02:40:14.735 --> 02:40:15.335
[UNKNOWN]: It's really it.
02:40:16.317 --> 02:40:17.298
[UNKNOWN]: And he goes, yeah, it's really it.
02:40:17.938 --> 02:40:19.300
[UNKNOWN]: He goes save me spot.
02:40:20.353 --> 02:40:21.394
[UNKNOWN]: So the match is going to happen.
02:40:21.674 --> 02:40:25.696
[UNKNOWN]: I can't imagine it happens this quickly, though, because like you said, this is a story.
02:40:25.716 --> 02:40:27.416
[UNKNOWN]: You got a year to tell this story.
02:40:27.496 --> 02:40:32.859
[UNKNOWN]: Unless the idea is that couple is going to win and go heal and is going to get a heal, run his champion or something.
02:40:33.759 --> 02:40:39.462
[UNKNOWN]: But I mean, outside of that, there's no need to rush him into a title match now.
02:40:39.502 --> 02:40:40.523
[UNKNOWN]: You build up to that.
02:40:41.323 --> 02:40:42.944
[UNKNOWN]: and he's got plenty of people to work with.
02:40:42.984 --> 02:40:48.146
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need to see him in Moxley ever again, but he's got plenty of other people to share a ring with.
02:40:48.486 --> 02:40:58.349
[UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you what, I fully expect that at some point next year, we got it in his final WWE match and I think we're going to get it again in AEW.
02:40:58.409 --> 02:41:00.410
[UNKNOWN]: I still think he and Shamus are going to have one more match.
02:41:00.470 --> 02:41:01.110
[UNKNOWN]: I'd love to see it.
02:41:01.590 --> 02:41:05.532
[UNKNOWN]: And I think it's going to be in AEW because I think it's inevitable that Shamus will end up here at some point.
02:41:06.993 --> 02:41:11.034
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, they're really leaning into the Osprey stuff right now though.
02:41:11.254 --> 02:41:16.415
[UNKNOWN]: Like they've already announced they're going to be teaming up tomorrow night I don't hear it.
02:41:16.615 --> 02:41:17.235
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be yes.
02:41:17.255 --> 02:41:23.656
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be Osprey and and Copeland begins Kevin night and Kyle Fletcher tomorrow night on dynamite.
02:41:23.836 --> 02:41:33.698
[UNKNOWN]: Oh So we'll see if they further the time I can do with that will Osprey wrestling a fucking Wednesday It's every week since this is one the chip issue, but that that's like that's lightly intrigues me
02:41:34.613 --> 02:41:49.078
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, look, for all the times that we've complained about how these posts, paper view episodes of Dynamite, so many people are missing, where they're hurt, and it feels like nothing's going on, I'm not going to complain about them having well aspirated a match on Dynamite this week.
02:41:49.118 --> 02:41:54.279
[UNKNOWN]: And so that tag team matches fine, plus we got the Dragon of Match, what else did they announce?
02:41:54.299 --> 02:41:59.161
[UNKNOWN]: I think they announced the box, I think, are facing Davis and Doyle.
02:42:00.468 --> 02:42:07.471
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, as far as the couple and stuff with the title, and frankly, I don't even need to see him win the title.
02:42:08.631 --> 02:42:13.213
[UNKNOWN]: I understand some people might want to see that I don't really have the appetite for it, but whatever.
02:42:13.253 --> 02:42:16.815
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's a way you can tell that story and it could be a feel good moment.
02:42:17.801 --> 02:42:25.331
[UNKNOWN]: The thing with Copeland though, and I told you, I mean, we've talked about this at various points here on TNT the last few months that I felt like next year is going to be for him.
02:42:26.092 --> 02:42:33.943
[UNKNOWN]: And if that's the case, then there's only one opportunity left to get him that match that he wants at the Tokyo Dome, which is in January.
02:42:34.785 --> 02:42:39.191
[UNKNOWN]: And so I have absolutely no, I mean, there's no doubt in my mind.
02:42:39.251 --> 02:42:40.552
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to wrestle on that show.
02:42:40.572 --> 02:42:41.874
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Tony was asked about that.
02:42:41.894 --> 02:42:42.775
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't want to say anything.
02:42:43.115 --> 02:42:44.177
[UNKNOWN]: It was being very cool.
02:42:44.197 --> 02:42:44.377
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
02:42:44.697 --> 02:42:44.897
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:42:45.178 --> 02:42:47.881
[UNKNOWN]: I actually think the match might be him and Ocata at the dome.
02:42:48.782 --> 02:42:51.485
[UNKNOWN]: And I could see that maybe even being for the international title.
02:42:52.293 --> 02:42:53.894
[UNKNOWN]: So that could be the match on that ship.
02:42:53.914 --> 02:42:58.438
[UNKNOWN]: There's so many other AEW guys who are clearly being positioned for matches on that show.
02:42:59.538 --> 02:43:04.302
[UNKNOWN]: You think Tony's going to say no to cope, and if this is his last shot, of course, I mean, come on, of course not.
02:43:04.362 --> 02:43:06.403
[UNKNOWN]: So he'll get his Tokyo don't match.
02:43:07.264 --> 02:43:09.646
[UNKNOWN]: And as far as where the final match is, we don't know.
02:43:09.686 --> 02:43:13.429
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know if he's going the full year like Cena and ending in December.
02:43:13.589 --> 02:43:15.350
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know if he's going to be done at all in.
02:43:15.770 --> 02:43:17.612
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know if he's going to be done at WrestleDream.
02:43:18.172 --> 02:43:22.622
[UNKNOWN]: But wherever it is, I think Toronto would make a hell of a lot of sense.
02:43:22.663 --> 02:43:27.794
[UNKNOWN]: You want to have an Adam Copeland retirement match Toronto would seem to be the best place to do it and you'd sell a lot of tickets.
02:43:28.560 --> 02:43:33.323
[UNKNOWN]: Just like you sold a lot of tickets in Greensboro for Sting's retirement and Sting had a connection to that town.
02:43:34.123 --> 02:43:39.366
[UNKNOWN]: So whichever paper view it's going to be, I think Toronto is a pretty safe bet.
02:43:39.486 --> 02:43:51.233
[UNKNOWN]: And I also think speaking of Sting, this is the best place for him to be if he's going to have a retirement year and wants to trust that Tony will do right by him.
02:43:52.434 --> 02:43:53.674
[UNKNOWN]: He did write by staying.
02:43:53.855 --> 02:43:59.597
[UNKNOWN]: He gave him an incredible send off, and that was in a retirement year that was a retirement match.
02:43:59.637 --> 02:44:00.957
[UNKNOWN]: This is going to be a little bit different.
02:44:00.977 --> 02:44:04.138
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe not everything he does next year is going to be, you know, booking gold.
02:44:05.139 --> 02:44:13.022
[UNKNOWN]: But of all the places that he could be doing his retirement year, I have a lot more faith and Tony to do right by Adam Copeland here than I would anywhere else.
02:44:19.549 --> 02:44:21.090
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's a little big.
02:44:21.230 --> 02:44:22.331
[UNKNOWN]: That is big.
02:44:22.532 --> 02:44:24.753
[UNKNOWN]: What's the smaller arena in Toronto?
02:44:24.853 --> 02:44:26.355
[UNKNOWN]: Isn't it the Russia Bank?
02:44:27.135 --> 02:44:28.316
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think it's the Scotch Burger.
02:44:28.356 --> 02:44:28.997
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's do it there.
02:44:29.037 --> 02:44:31.319
[UNKNOWN]: That's where that's where forbidden door wasn't all the years You got them.
02:44:31.679 --> 02:44:33.280
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they could easily sell that out.
02:44:33.340 --> 02:44:34.682
[UNKNOWN]: It's like 19,000 people.
02:44:34.702 --> 02:44:35.322
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 20,000 people.
02:44:35.342 --> 02:44:39.546
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's I mean all in I mean it depends on what Tony's thinking, but
02:44:40.127 --> 02:44:41.647
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I go all out.
02:44:41.667 --> 02:44:44.108
[UNKNOWN]: You go, you go Toronto, final match.
02:44:44.408 --> 02:44:46.668
[UNKNOWN]: You fly in all to bridge, you have them play him to the ring.
02:44:46.688 --> 02:44:47.168
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I love.
02:44:47.188 --> 02:44:48.429
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I love that.
02:44:48.469 --> 02:44:49.309
[UNKNOWN]: You win all to bridge.
02:44:50.609 --> 02:44:52.209
[UNKNOWN]: But like, it's got to happen, right?
02:44:52.870 --> 02:44:59.391
[UNKNOWN]: If they were going to either put the title on him or just get him that title batch, I'm thinking there's two times to do it.
02:45:00.111 --> 02:45:05.672
[UNKNOWN]: One is Liverpool, because they have that big, as dynasty isn't Liverpool and February.
02:45:05.812 --> 02:45:08.213
[UNKNOWN]: And they're, I think they're just about sold out.
02:45:08.313 --> 02:45:09.193
[UNKNOWN]: They're completely sold out.
02:45:09.887 --> 02:45:11.568
[UNKNOWN]: So, okay, so they're completely sold out.
02:45:12.589 --> 02:45:15.471
[UNKNOWN]: So maybe he doesn't want to do it there since he's already got a sold out house.
02:45:15.512 --> 02:45:21.516
[UNKNOWN]: But I was thinking either that show, or if he's going to be doing a big show in April, that would be a good place to do it.
02:45:22.577 --> 02:45:30.764
[UNKNOWN]: So imagine doing a Copeland title match in April, if he does like a big show here in the States, and you do young bucks in new level on that show as well.
02:45:32.225 --> 02:45:32.725
[UNKNOWN]: Sign me up.
02:45:33.846 --> 02:45:35.107
[UNKNOWN]: Those are two big matches right there.
02:45:35.287 --> 02:45:35.808
[UNKNOWN]: Sign me up.
02:45:36.735 --> 02:45:52.852
[UNKNOWN]: so uh... we got uh... at least something brune with a w there uh... looking like a decent dynamite tomorrow will both be live for that on respective channels but thank you guys very much for all your support here we're wrapping up tn t episode one sixty nine here i got to give our guy a standing ovation
02:45:56.155 --> 02:45:58.418
[UNKNOWN]: We haven't seen him in a few weeks.
02:46:00.180 --> 02:46:05.046
[UNKNOWN]: How Billy comes in with a one hundred dollar super chat.
02:46:05.066 --> 02:46:05.967
[UNKNOWN]: We love how Billy.
02:46:06.488 --> 02:46:07.048
[UNKNOWN]: He lives.
02:46:07.469 --> 02:46:08.030
[UNKNOWN]: He lives.
02:46:08.090 --> 02:46:08.630
[UNKNOWN]: How Billy.
02:46:09.391 --> 02:46:12.115
[UNKNOWN]: Who is most likely to head on next week?
02:46:13.178 --> 02:46:22.423
[UNKNOWN]: WWE Hall of Famer, John Cena, or, oh, I guess, let me, let me, let me, let me refrazes because he, he, he mispelled it headline the WWE Hall of Fame.
02:46:22.603 --> 02:46:26.264
[UNKNOWN]: John Cena or Brock Lesnar next year, either one of them has to say, is it next way?
02:46:26.364 --> 02:46:26.905
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:46:27.465 --> 02:46:28.205
[UNKNOWN]: I had no idea.
02:46:29.566 --> 02:46:31.647
[UNKNOWN]: Um, God, this is, it's in Saudi.
02:46:31.807 --> 02:46:32.647
[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to be seen.
02:46:32.988 --> 02:46:33.148
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:46:33.468 --> 02:46:34.448
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's going to be Lesnar either.
02:46:34.808 --> 02:46:37.750
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see Brock going over there either, so I don't think it's going to be either one of them.
02:46:38.722 --> 02:46:48.271
[UNKNOWN]: He also asks if Stephanie Vickard didn't get injured after WrestleMania, would she get a rematch with live or a mixed tag match against Dom and live?
02:46:50.774 --> 02:46:51.335
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:46:51.435 --> 02:46:54.958
[UNKNOWN]: I think I think she said that her body was breaking down.
02:46:54.978 --> 02:46:57.701
[UNKNOWN]: So it was just more than one injury if I'm not mistaken.
02:46:57.721 --> 02:46:59.082
[UNKNOWN]: She was going to take time off regardless.
02:46:59.463 --> 02:47:01.885
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but a mixed tag match to me, who would her partner be?
02:47:02.808 --> 02:47:03.548
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, who would have a partner?
02:47:03.568 --> 02:47:05.429
[UNKNOWN]: Be, hubby Lee.
02:47:05.449 --> 02:47:06.970
[UNKNOWN]: I think what it just been a re-metre live.
02:47:07.150 --> 02:47:07.370
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:47:08.131 --> 02:47:11.992
[UNKNOWN]: And then he finally asks, what's the chance of the nicks going back to back?
02:47:14.414 --> 02:47:17.255
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's very hard to go for any team to go back to back.
02:47:21.717 --> 02:47:23.818
[UNKNOWN]: They have a chance, I don't think it's a great chance.
02:47:25.259 --> 02:47:26.559
[UNKNOWN]: It's just such a hard thing to do.
02:47:26.819 --> 02:47:27.060
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:47:27.920 --> 02:47:32.142
[UNKNOWN]: This just felt like this was the season of fate for them.
02:47:33.082 --> 02:47:34.684
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's hard to replicate that.
02:47:36.126 --> 02:47:40.111
[UNKNOWN]: I've really brought the thank you very much for yours tonight, though.
02:47:40.291 --> 02:47:40.631
[UNKNOWN]: Did they?
02:47:40.972 --> 02:47:41.472
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
02:47:41.632 --> 02:47:49.242
[UNKNOWN]: I was seeing a lot of people at the garden with the ring celebration, and the ring ceremony, and then the banner going up.
02:47:49.442 --> 02:47:50.443
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:47:50.483 --> 02:47:51.885
[UNKNOWN]: Big championship celebration.
02:47:52.952 --> 02:48:07.890
[UNKNOWN]: uh... that he's got new uh... collaborative merchandise out for the next they keep in that going so uh... if you guys want that that uh... is floating on social media as well but they have did they have damn house and at the celebration tonight i don't know and i don't really care honestly uh... wherever he may be
02:48:08.893 --> 02:48:35.791
[UNKNOWN]: uh... heavily thank you brother out we're gonna get to superchats again guys thank you for great show tonight you guys need anything from us you know where to find us you know where to find me you know where to find Jason everything you need is linked down below in the description for him superchats are open we're gonna re-through them get out of here thumbs up comments help us out tremendously so please go and do that let us know what you think of tonight's discussion Michael Krauss to all superchat oh t s tap room t and t all guys no breaks with it yeah
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[UNKNOWN]: tone rock on brother to do so which I came with a one ninety nine no message thank you Kate in boss more jackson with a four ninety nine so far the reviews for street fighter are mixed but mostly negative I think I will wait till it comes out on streaming service yes I think it made what thirty one million at the box office and they had watch it's an eighty million dollar budget
02:49:00.562 --> 02:49:01.203
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, yes.
02:49:01.803 --> 02:49:02.784
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they'll make that back.
02:49:02.804 --> 02:49:06.586
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, eventually between this and screaming or whatever, I'm sure they'll make it back.
02:49:06.847 --> 02:49:09.148
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was the number one movie, though, this weekend.
02:49:10.349 --> 02:49:11.570
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't hear many good things about it.
02:49:11.590 --> 02:49:12.150
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't listen.
02:49:12.170 --> 02:49:18.274
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the first one was kind of hokey and like kind of like, not really serious, but kind of serious.
02:49:18.334 --> 02:49:22.337
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe that point, I mean, I think they're going to follow the same premise with this one.
02:49:22.517 --> 02:49:23.738
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want it to be super serious.
02:49:23.758 --> 02:49:25.579
[UNKNOWN]: Like, more to combat, you know?
02:49:25.639 --> 02:49:26.980
[UNKNOWN]: The first one, the first one, had a row.
02:49:27.000 --> 02:49:27.501
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Julia.
02:49:27.641 --> 02:49:27.901
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
02:49:28.682 --> 02:49:29.302
[UNKNOWN]: My spine doesn't.
02:49:29.621 --> 02:49:30.241
[UNKNOWN]: This one doesn't.
02:49:30.301 --> 02:49:31.622
[UNKNOWN]: That's Cody Rawls and Roma Reigns.
02:49:32.122 --> 02:49:33.203
[UNKNOWN]: Cody, I will say this.
02:49:33.703 --> 02:49:38.125
[UNKNOWN]: The most positive feedback I've seen has actually been for Cody and his role in the movie.
02:49:39.245 --> 02:49:40.606
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he did something entertaining, huh?
02:49:41.386 --> 02:49:43.647
[UNKNOWN]: Apparently, he's very funny in his role.
02:49:45.068 --> 02:49:46.068
[UNKNOWN]: Boss Mojax, thank you.
02:49:46.088 --> 02:49:47.649
[UNKNOWN]: But then Noah will the fight out of Superjet.
02:49:47.669 --> 02:49:49.310
[UNKNOWN]: Have you watched Obsession yet, Shady?
02:49:49.370 --> 02:49:49.570
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:49:50.710 --> 02:49:51.151
[UNKNOWN]: I have not.
02:49:52.691 --> 02:49:56.513
[UNKNOWN]: I apologize to all that are concerning about my Obsession viewing.
02:49:58.508 --> 02:49:59.849
[UNKNOWN]: Boss, put Jackson on the 499.
02:50:00.590 --> 02:50:01.751
[UNKNOWN]: I checked out obsession.
02:50:01.811 --> 02:50:02.831
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was a good movie.
02:50:02.852 --> 02:50:05.093
[UNKNOWN]: JD if you haven't watched it yet I would recommend it.
02:50:05.614 --> 02:50:11.699
[UNKNOWN]: It's a bit psycho and a bit eerie, but I loved it two thumbs up I know I heard it from this guy.
02:50:12.299 --> 02:50:19.105
[UNKNOWN]: It's a movie the year Shall with the two out super chat this Jacob now come back as a member of nine four six.
02:50:19.245 --> 02:50:23.228
[UNKNOWN]: No I do not have to be awfully forgiving if you did
02:50:24.245 --> 02:50:26.128
[UNKNOWN]: They ran them over with a speeding sports car.
02:50:26.148 --> 02:50:26.869
[UNKNOWN]: The answer is no.
02:50:27.149 --> 02:50:28.872
[UNKNOWN]: That would be very odd if that's the case.
02:50:30.682 --> 02:50:31.882
[UNKNOWN]: J. Gordo, the final super chat.
02:50:31.902 --> 02:50:35.743
[UNKNOWN]: What's up, J. D. Salimosa, have you watched the show Crystal Lake or Carrey?
02:50:36.023 --> 02:50:39.724
[UNKNOWN]: Always a supporter of both of you, OTS and TNT for life.
02:50:39.764 --> 02:50:40.284
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, brother.
02:50:40.865 --> 02:50:41.345
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, brother.
02:50:42.265 --> 02:50:52.007
[UNKNOWN]: I am, I have not seen either one of them yet, and I will be checking out Crystal Lake first, and hopefully, by this weekend, I will find some time to dive into that.
02:50:52.027 --> 02:50:53.228
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's eight episodes, I think.
02:50:53.348 --> 02:50:53.508
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
02:50:54.048 --> 02:50:58.329
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I heard from people that Carrey was very good, but not really my thing, honestly.
02:50:59.740 --> 02:51:02.281
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a show this is a super judge do you think punk K.O.
02:51:02.401 --> 02:51:23.390
[UNKNOWN]: can rival punk drew uh given the right circumstances me personally I think they can if given the right story but drew is man he was on another level of punk that was just great and happened out of nothing and happened out of an injury that punk out in the role of rumble out here yeah it's the way you do uh story time I guess they they forgot how to do that uh we have
02:51:24.621 --> 02:51:28.603
[UNKNOWN]: Who is this better met or better met work?
02:51:28.643 --> 02:51:30.103
[UNKNOWN]: 87, 66 what a final signature.
02:51:30.384 --> 02:51:31.284
[UNKNOWN]: Can you please tell J.D.
02:51:31.304 --> 02:51:33.285
[UNKNOWN]: the story of Bagwell and his mom shaving?
02:51:33.805 --> 02:51:34.165
[UNKNOWN]: J.D.
02:51:34.205 --> 02:51:39.668
[UNKNOWN]: does not know there's horrible fact and we need him to foam or form a trauma bond with him.
02:51:40.708 --> 02:51:41.829
[UNKNOWN]: Buff Bagwell and his mom.
02:51:42.609 --> 02:51:43.349
[UNKNOWN]: Why do I need to know this?
02:51:44.590 --> 02:51:45.310
[UNKNOWN]: You really don't.
02:51:47.203 --> 02:51:48.464
[UNKNOWN]: Do I want to hear this for you?
02:51:48.564 --> 02:51:48.964
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
02:51:49.064 --> 02:51:49.665
[UNKNOWN]: Not really.
02:51:49.725 --> 02:51:49.945
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:51:50.045 --> 02:51:50.385
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:51:50.465 --> 02:51:50.925
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:51:51.005 --> 02:51:51.306
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:51:51.726 --> 02:51:53.527
[UNKNOWN]: It involves somebody walking into the room.
02:51:54.568 --> 02:51:58.750
[UNKNOWN]: His friend walking into the room while he was having his mother, uh, shaved his balls.
02:51:59.171 --> 02:51:59.391
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:51:59.531 --> 02:52:00.932
[UNKNOWN]: I do not want to hear this, then.
02:52:01.232 --> 02:52:02.112
[UNKNOWN]: It's another region.
02:52:02.292 --> 02:52:02.533
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:52:03.173 --> 02:52:05.094
[UNKNOWN]: There's a very close relationship with his mom.
02:52:05.374 --> 02:52:05.655
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:52:05.955 --> 02:52:06.195
[UNKNOWN]: No.
02:52:06.375 --> 02:52:07.356
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, man.
02:52:07.536 --> 02:52:09.517
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to skip that story for another day.
02:52:09.537 --> 02:52:10.558
[UNKNOWN]: We'll save it for a rainy day.
02:52:11.138 --> 02:52:21.428
[UNKNOWN]: Boss mojax with a four night dinner friday that 13th and carry franchise as new TV series and they are fantastic so far I would highly recommend them for those looking for new shows to watch.
02:52:21.448 --> 02:52:26.593
[UNKNOWN]: Well, thank you boss mojax Lord my assurel with a four night dinner on solo.
02:52:26.713 --> 02:52:35.822
[UNKNOWN]: I think Roman reigns reign of terror is worse than triple H He occasionally lost whereas Roman from 20 to 23 never did besides the tag team match
02:52:38.414 --> 02:52:44.424
[UNKNOWN]: you're pretty uh... explanatory about how you despise triple ages renaissance error do you
02:52:45.515 --> 02:52:49.058
[UNKNOWN]: Not a fan, yeah, not a fan of the rain of terror.
02:52:49.098 --> 02:52:50.320
[UNKNOWN]: No, I live through it.
02:52:50.780 --> 02:53:08.837
[UNKNOWN]: I sat through all those television shows, seeing his smiling face out there on TV every week and putting people down left and right, coming off of some very legendary years of wrestling television to go into that was, it was quite the change.
02:53:09.497 --> 02:53:10.078
[UNKNOWN]: I was not a fan.
02:53:11.496 --> 02:53:14.019
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, network with another fight I'll super chat.
02:53:14.419 --> 02:53:18.983
[UNKNOWN]: Jade is whole Rudolph, ditch Santa and guide my slate tonight.
02:53:19.624 --> 02:53:21.786
[UNKNOWN]: Then Jacob got flattened by a reindeer.
02:53:22.346 --> 02:53:24.929
[UNKNOWN]: Then all the reindeer joined 9464 games.
02:53:27.591 --> 02:53:29.833
[UNKNOWN]: And then she told Santa 8 no one said.
02:53:31.814 --> 02:53:39.998
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, he told, uh, she told, uh, uh, Santa's wife ain't nobody safe, right?
02:53:40.038 --> 02:53:40.599
[UNKNOWN]: Mrs. Clos?
02:53:41.099 --> 02:53:41.279
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:53:42.099 --> 02:53:43.460
[UNKNOWN]: And stole her cookies while she was at it.
02:53:44.681 --> 02:53:45.401
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, boss with Jackson.
02:53:45.601 --> 02:53:47.142
[UNKNOWN]: It's the old man.
02:53:48.863 --> 02:53:50.304
[UNKNOWN]: Boss with Jackson with the 49 did I.
02:53:50.524 --> 02:53:52.285
[UNKNOWN]: First episode of front of the team will hook you.
02:53:53.033 --> 02:53:56.775
[UNKNOWN]: There are some intense killings and interesting moments just in the first episode.
02:53:56.795 --> 02:53:57.255
[UNKNOWN]: It gets better.
02:53:57.435 --> 02:53:58.716
[UNKNOWN]: Well, thank you, boss, my jacks.
02:53:58.756 --> 02:54:02.378
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for telling us exactly how the show's coming along.
02:54:02.998 --> 02:54:06.320
[UNKNOWN]: Or if you think you have to remember, bed Jason is
02:54:07.732 --> 02:54:12.413
[UNKNOWN]: Because people wonder, like, why does he kill people and, you know, what's, what's the story?
02:54:12.433 --> 02:54:14.413
[UNKNOWN]: Like, what, why does Jason do what he does?
02:54:15.053 --> 02:54:16.714
[UNKNOWN]: And people talk about his mother and everything else.
02:54:16.994 --> 02:54:22.075
[UNKNOWN]: The biggest thing he got to understand is that in these movies, if you are having pre-marital sex, you're dead.
02:54:23.435 --> 02:54:23.875
[UNKNOWN]: You're dead.
02:54:23.915 --> 02:54:24.375
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:54:24.575 --> 02:54:25.055
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, goodbye.
02:54:25.755 --> 02:54:30.116
[UNKNOWN]: I've realized that Jason does not like pre-marital sex.
02:54:30.196 --> 02:54:31.856
[UNKNOWN]: He's vehemently against it.
02:54:32.036 --> 02:54:32.356
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
02:54:33.337 --> 02:54:35.477
[UNKNOWN]: I guess that's, that's quite the storyline aren't there.
02:54:36.346 --> 02:55:03.052
[UNKNOWN]: uh... luka of the ten of the judge of what's up jd solmasser six hundred days of complete so bright a few days ago love tuning into the streams after a long day of laboring at the job much love to the t and t family look at that is unbelievable congratulations brother that's something to be celebrated yeah that is uh... there's something to be proud of yes and thank you to support man we are uh... very happy that we are keeping you company during your long day at work
02:55:04.205 --> 02:55:23.004
[UNKNOWN]: boss one jacks on the four nine to nine to be honest that guy could have just moved out of the way he didn't have to sit there and just watch Montez I wouldn't have just removed myself quickly what he was station there and so it's kind of his job to be there
02:55:24.528 --> 02:55:27.731
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure the thought didn't occur to him to go run away from the guy.
02:55:28.492 --> 02:55:38.883
[UNKNOWN]: Could he have gotten up and tried to excuse himself, he could have, but he was supposed to be stationed there and he was just doing his job until this guy came over and started flashing his junk in his face.
02:55:40.244 --> 02:55:40.765
[UNKNOWN]: Don't do that.
02:55:41.005 --> 02:55:45.230
[UNKNOWN]: Now, Chrono, with the 2-0 Superjet hybrid theory update, J.D.
02:55:45.250 --> 02:55:47.452
[UNKNOWN]: Solo goes there and make him play it.
02:55:50.304 --> 02:55:50.944
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I have to.
02:55:50.964 --> 02:55:52.885
[UNKNOWN]: It's in the drawer in the drawer.
02:55:52.925 --> 02:55:57.987
[UNKNOWN]: We at least, we at least want to embark at the NYC arena during the beginning of the show.
02:55:58.167 --> 02:56:06.471
[UNKNOWN]: Like before we hit those that what was that scene from the first back to the future movie or Chris Crispin Glover is sleeping.
02:56:07.912 --> 02:56:08.032
[UNKNOWN]: And
02:56:09.112 --> 02:56:10.373
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's Michael J.
02:56:10.433 --> 02:56:20.000
[UNKNOWN]: Fox in the the space man suit who kind of comes into his room and puts the headphones on his ears while he's sleeping and he starts playing this cassette tape really super fucking loud.
02:56:20.460 --> 02:56:21.140
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to do that.
02:56:21.761 --> 02:56:22.701
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to do that with J.D.
02:56:22.761 --> 02:56:27.645
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to just like put the headphones on and just start playing the fucking CD and just start blasting it in his ear.
02:56:28.025 --> 02:56:29.826
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to have this guy sneak into the house.
02:56:30.026 --> 02:56:32.268
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be looking up from better.
02:56:32.288 --> 02:56:33.329
[UNKNOWN]: What the fuck are you doing here?
02:56:33.749 --> 02:56:34.890
[UNKNOWN]: Be attacked by all the cats.
02:56:36.530 --> 02:57:00.975
[UNKNOWN]: uh... being town with a nineteen ninety nine thank you being town hey guys what's the end game of the nine four six and bloodline feud is there going to be a long-term program like the bloodline was on smack down once Cody finished your story smack down i sucked ever since will it happen to roll uh... well no this is not going to be long-term the way the bloodline is nothing ever nothing can possibly be
02:57:02.011 --> 02:57:11.341
[UNKNOWN]: I'm hoping that the plan would be to come out of war games with a 946 win and then set Royce keys up for a championship match of Roman Reigns.
02:57:11.401 --> 02:57:12.362
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe a WrestlePolusa?
02:57:13.042 --> 02:57:18.008
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, or Royal Rumble, depending- I mean, Rumble's in February this year, so maybe too long.
02:57:18.788 --> 02:57:22.732
[UNKNOWN]: No, be a WrestlePolusa is only two weeks later, maybe that's two, two quick.
02:57:22.933 --> 02:57:23.113
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:57:24.261 --> 02:57:25.241
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I agree with that.
02:57:25.261 --> 02:57:29.242
[UNKNOWN]: I think 946 wins work games has to absolutely should.
02:57:29.462 --> 02:57:30.063
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, they're done.
02:57:30.143 --> 02:57:31.623
[UNKNOWN]: If they lose war games, that's it.
02:57:31.643 --> 02:57:32.063
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, tough.
02:57:32.523 --> 02:57:32.883
[UNKNOWN]: They're done.
02:57:33.623 --> 02:57:34.304
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you being talented.
02:57:34.324 --> 02:57:35.064
[UNKNOWN]: Appreciate you, brother.
02:57:35.924 --> 02:57:37.564
[UNKNOWN]: Assai moonsault with the 999.
02:57:37.845 --> 02:57:40.725
[UNKNOWN]: Thoughts on Stephanie Vicarious latest post.
02:57:43.626 --> 02:57:43.986
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:57:44.046 --> 02:57:44.606
[UNKNOWN]: Any thoughts?
02:57:45.066 --> 02:57:45.907
[UNKNOWN]: From the Hawaii.
02:57:45.927 --> 02:57:47.367
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, from the Hawaii photographs.
02:57:48.839 --> 02:57:51.261
[UNKNOWN]: I, I mean, I don't know about thoughts.
02:57:51.381 --> 02:57:53.522
[UNKNOWN]: I was just kind of tired.
02:57:53.742 --> 02:57:57.444
[UNKNOWN]: You know, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a trance.
02:57:57.525 --> 02:57:57.765
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:57:58.225 --> 02:57:58.785
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a little bit.
02:57:58.805 --> 02:57:58.905
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:57:58.925 --> 02:57:59.065
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:57:59.306 --> 02:57:59.466
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:57:59.506 --> 02:57:59.706
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:58:00.586 --> 02:58:01.827
[UNKNOWN]: That dim miles born.
02:58:01.847 --> 02:58:07.030
[UNKNOWN]: Now, you guys are probably cooperating on taking out miles born at some point, right?
02:58:08.011 --> 02:58:09.292
[UNKNOWN]: Good for him.
02:58:09.372 --> 02:58:11.893
[UNKNOWN]: Ryan Matthew Russo with a four million.
02:58:12.614 --> 02:58:13.815
[UNKNOWN]: What are Scottie to
02:58:18.517 --> 02:58:46.329
[UNKNOWN]: to go you got to smile he's right you got to smile uh... cittula the final series at the side of not to drink alcohol when doing calculus i shouldn't drink and derive and there's a rumor that all orthodontists are going on strike brace yourselves
02:58:49.463 --> 02:59:05.454
[UNKNOWN]: you got one of the two sidelines one of the two uh... what do you call a death gone ecologist a lip reader ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
02:59:07.605 --> 02:59:11.026
[UNKNOWN]: Oh man, Edward Young, with the 10th anniversary.
02:59:11.066 --> 02:59:19.850
[UNKNOWN]: Hi guys, each fan for years is a possible for Penta to cash in on both Roman and semi-accrual and unified the titles.
02:59:20.930 --> 02:59:22.811
[UNKNOWN]: Have to be great, I mean, okay with that.
02:59:22.851 --> 02:59:23.571
[UNKNOWN]: They wanted to do that.
02:59:23.591 --> 02:59:24.292
[UNKNOWN]: That's fine with me.
02:59:24.492 --> 02:59:24.692
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:59:25.352 --> 02:59:27.433
[UNKNOWN]: If you could utilize the tag team belts too while he's at it.
02:59:27.453 --> 02:59:27.653
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
02:59:28.753 --> 02:59:29.954
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, Citrole, the final suit was out.
02:59:29.974 --> 02:59:32.535
[UNKNOWN]: What do you call a really fat fortune teller?
02:59:34.028 --> 02:59:35.809
[UNKNOWN]: A fortune teller.
02:59:42.093 --> 02:59:42.653
[UNKNOWN]: My god.
02:59:43.153 --> 02:59:43.453
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
02:59:43.473 --> 02:59:44.534
[UNKNOWN]: It's literally got him.
02:59:44.594 --> 02:59:45.014
[UNKNOWN]: It's twice.
02:59:46.035 --> 02:59:49.957
[UNKNOWN]: Someone broke into my home and stole my limbo pole.
02:59:50.678 --> 02:59:51.598
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, really?
02:59:51.898 --> 02:59:53.939
[UNKNOWN]: How low can you go?
02:59:53.959 --> 02:59:58.722
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
02:59:58.742 --> 03:00:00.063
[UNKNOWN]: So you're coming with the heat tonight.
03:00:03.969 --> 03:00:04.609
[UNKNOWN]: Matanza.
03:00:05.430 --> 03:00:08.793
[UNKNOWN]: And, mill, what does that mean?
03:00:08.813 --> 03:00:24.544
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
03:00:26.770 --> 03:00:32.332
[UNKNOWN]: Man, I thought that fuckin' Prado Sam Martina was my favorite wrestler from... What do you wonder, Ron?
03:00:33.453 --> 03:00:35.053
[UNKNOWN]: I was a big fan of Katrina.
03:00:35.854 --> 03:00:35.974
[UNKNOWN]: Ah!
03:00:36.154 --> 03:00:37.895
[UNKNOWN]: Does anybody remember?
03:00:37.915 --> 03:00:38.895
[UNKNOWN]: There's a big fan of this.
03:00:38.915 --> 03:00:39.575
[UNKNOWN]: But she's hurt.
03:00:39.615 --> 03:00:40.876
[UNKNOWN]: She's not a wrestler now.
03:00:41.496 --> 03:00:42.136
[UNKNOWN]: Does she wrestle?
03:00:42.497 --> 03:00:43.237
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, she did?
03:00:43.617 --> 03:00:44.617
[UNKNOWN]: She wrestled a few matches.
03:00:44.958 --> 03:00:50.440
[UNKNOWN]: She used to be a Maxine in WWE during the early days of the NXT game show that they were...
03:00:51.060 --> 03:00:52.061
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I said, I don't know.
03:00:52.121 --> 03:00:56.543
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't know all that, but yeah, she was maxing him back then.
03:00:57.483 --> 03:00:59.164
[UNKNOWN]: Penta, Penta was actually one of my favorites.
03:00:59.184 --> 03:00:59.924
[UNKNOWN]: Penta gone junior.
03:01:00.305 --> 03:01:01.305
[UNKNOWN]: Going around breaking arms.
03:01:01.845 --> 03:01:02.045
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:01:02.666 --> 03:01:03.146
[UNKNOWN]: That was great.
03:01:04.026 --> 03:01:05.827
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but the other ground is something else, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: Miss it.
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[UNKNOWN]: The, um, who's this?
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[UNKNOWN]: Most more Jackson.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
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[UNKNOWN]: The JD from the riots to 06 99 99 and he got a 499 too.
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[UNKNOWN]: fire and angry people everywhere here in France, meanwhile I'm just drinking coffee filming TNT in my universe, my Jason on the other hand took it step further and is streaming on the Eiffel Tower.
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[UNKNOWN]: He also got traumatized after Captain America, Captain America was in the riot and he told Jason, you better watch those movies or I'll stick my shield where it don't shine.
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[UNKNOWN]: I have uh... the winter soldiers on my list of things to watch so i will uh... there's that one and then there's uh... uh... what was the one uh... were it's kind of like captain america and ironman are on like a posing side the Avengers now it's uh...
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[UNKNOWN]: Fantastic.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, no.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was, I just forgot the name of the, whatever that movie is, I got that on my list to watch also.
03:02:08.610 --> 03:02:12.113
[UNKNOWN]: So, maybe that is the winter soldier, maybe it's, maybe that is the movie.
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[UNKNOWN]: But yes, I know, I have to get back, I've, I had it's been a few weeks, I have to get back to my, my list, I have to go through these Marvel movies.
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[UNKNOWN]: Ah, Ragnarok.
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[UNKNOWN]: With the Firehouse Civil War.
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[UNKNOWN]: Civil War.
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[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... radnrock with thought i'll see which i've roman won't lose till mania and over will be undefeated till their match why would we as fans being vested in either of their feuds until then to go question that's what we do that's triple it they tell stories like marvel and they see uh... be hudda
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[UNKNOWN]: for the 499 we live in a timeline where we could see Roman rains get literally bombed while delivering a super bad punch.
03:02:54.420 --> 03:02:59.704
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I hope that doesn't happen, but yes, in all series, it's serious to see us.
03:03:00.625 --> 03:03:05.489
[UNKNOWN]: These people want to make a name for themselves that are attacking over there and we'll what to do with and attacking celebrities.
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[UNKNOWN]: You don't take that chance.
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[UNKNOWN]: And this morning with the 499 the titles are props at this point just for show.
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[UNKNOWN]: Always have it.
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[UNKNOWN]: joker face with a nineteen ninety nine.
03:03:18.571 --> 03:03:22.555
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you joker is happy nine year anniversary to trivia in the sin and the sentence.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I love them.
03:03:24.857 --> 03:03:25.798
[UNKNOWN]: I can't wait for their new album.
03:03:25.838 --> 03:03:31.383
[UNKNOWN]: I'm slightly disappointed in what they've released so far, but I got the hoodie on today and I was listening to show them the other day, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: Just great great stuff.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, guys, you remember what Jordan Grace was one of the best female wrestlers in the world.
03:03:37.068 --> 03:03:42.013
[UNKNOWN]: She's been doing door dash delivery and as a secondary job, WWE's giving up on her.
03:03:43.040 --> 03:03:46.623
[UNKNOWN]: I think that was just a parody account or something.
03:03:47.664 --> 03:03:50.706
[UNKNOWN]: I keep you hearing people talk about this and I don't think it's real.
03:03:51.927 --> 03:03:56.210
[UNKNOWN]: I'm doing a lot of things other than wrestling, but I don't know the door dash is one of them.
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[UNKNOWN]: That would be something.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sean Waters and the Fatal Superior JD, I say this with love.
03:04:02.795 --> 03:04:10.381
[UNKNOWN]: If people tell you to get a real job because like me, I get concerned with your health when you yell with passion during your reviews, LOL.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, Sean, thank you for the concern.
03:04:14.510 --> 03:04:18.733
[UNKNOWN]: I have been older me was a lot worse.
03:04:19.833 --> 03:04:23.936
[UNKNOWN]: That was just me just unhinged, but I have gotten so much better.
03:04:24.056 --> 03:04:29.039
[UNKNOWN]: Like, if people think I'm bad now, I don't really understand it.
03:04:29.059 --> 03:04:33.983
[UNKNOWN]: Like there's nothing I say that people could really wholeheartedly say, I mean, you're wrong.
03:04:34.083 --> 03:04:35.824
[UNKNOWN]: Like, we care about the shelves.
03:04:35.844 --> 03:04:37.425
[UNKNOWN]: We want them to be better in the show suck.
03:04:38.758 --> 03:04:44.062
[UNKNOWN]: We got to be entertaining for you guys, because WWE isn't entertaining, I just said before you got to find your entertainment somewhere.
03:04:46.723 --> 03:04:47.904
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, Havilly, thank you, brother.
03:04:47.984 --> 03:04:51.487
[UNKNOWN]: He also has a 21, a 20-month membership.
03:04:51.547 --> 03:04:52.667
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry, I meant to say nature.
03:04:52.728 --> 03:04:58.191
[UNKNOWN]: If Neville didn't leave WWE, what are the chances of him winning the WWE title now?
03:04:58.231 --> 03:04:59.172
[UNKNOWN]: Triple H is in charge.
03:05:02.126 --> 03:05:05.388
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like it would be a fin baller situation where he probably wouldn't win it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
03:05:06.068 --> 03:05:07.309
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he would be one of the guys.
03:05:07.349 --> 03:05:10.931
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe that he leans on and he's he's featured, but I don't see him.
03:05:11.491 --> 03:05:12.652
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see him winning the title.
03:05:13.953 --> 03:05:15.493
[UNKNOWN]: This is J. D. It is PG error.
03:05:15.513 --> 03:05:17.094
[UNKNOWN]: Not even ruthless aggression error.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe sure.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
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[UNKNOWN]: Base Bears with the two, two, two, push Montess Ford.
03:05:25.399 --> 03:05:27.560
[UNKNOWN]: Sammy will be Roman with a camel clutch.
03:05:28.461 --> 03:05:30.822
[UNKNOWN]: And wasn't Ray Mysterio in Freddy versus Jason.
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[UNKNOWN]: wasn't was that's news to me if he was I saw that movie I don't remember seeing Ray Mysterio in there the Sammy beat Roman with the help of 946 at crown jewel Yes, okay, I think so too
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... don't stony the final super chat shout out to don't tell me rustling soup spipple media and as always rest in peace cave castle stony love your brother thank you so much cake with a two-dollar super chat cop should set up the next rated r superstar who would that even be who would that even be i don't think anybody could really don't uh... the name rated r superstar in
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[UNKNOWN]: gang green david with a forna mjf sure i don't see a i don't see mjf having live sex on uh... dynamite no but i mean it when they feed i could see mjf being like you're looking at the uh... the real the modern day right now i can't see i can't green david put my dog down today it was tough keep up the great work gentlemen i'm sorry here that brother thoughts and present with you uh... i know we both know how difficult that is
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[UNKNOWN]: uh... base bears with a two and a two uh... what was worse cesters rap or javari's t and a theme i'm not familiar with devari's t and anything yeah i don't remember his t and a theme but it's t and a probably was pretty bad and people are are talking about it uh... go cesters rap just uh... by default also by sell l a night or doff's regular
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, someone on L.A. night, and then this TNT thing, it's not bad.
03:07:24.025 --> 03:07:25.965
[UNKNOWN]: He says to the two of us who be able to thank you.
03:07:27.246 --> 03:07:27.726
[UNKNOWN]: We try.
03:07:27.766 --> 03:07:28.526
[UNKNOWN]: We try our best.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's it.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's all we got for you guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: So he was the other way.
03:07:32.968 --> 03:07:34.008
[UNKNOWN]: Right, right at the bell here.
03:07:34.248 --> 03:07:35.909
[UNKNOWN]: Furious nation from the fight all super chat.
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[UNKNOWN]: What's up, J.
03:07:36.689 --> 03:07:37.189
[UNKNOWN]: Dean Solos.
03:07:37.209 --> 03:07:38.690
[UNKNOWN]: So my top four wrestlers of the year.
03:07:39.190 --> 03:07:43.491
[UNKNOWN]: Shad Gable, Sami Zane, Penta, and CM Punk.
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[UNKNOWN]: I am.
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[UNKNOWN]: thinking you're talking just specifically about WWE that sounds about right uh... penters up there for sure gable you know honestly i know a lot of people jacen want to uh... kind of poke fun at roman but i would put roman in this in this year's discussion i think he'd be at near the top right on their chat table i think
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, looking at that match with Punk at WrestleMania that was excellent, he had the match with...
03:08:08.841 --> 03:08:16.371
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the match with Rollins was also very good, but he had the match with Penta, and he had the match with Knight, which I thought was great, so he's had some batters this year.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well thank you for your nation and thank you guys for a great show tonight.
03:08:21.682 --> 03:08:24.204
[UNKNOWN]: We will be back with you for episode 170.
03:08:24.785 --> 03:08:30.571
[UNKNOWN]: Next week, hopefully there'll be a little bit more news to get to, but we had a lot to talk about tonight.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully you guys enjoyed the discussion.
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[UNKNOWN]: I was always going to leave it up to this guy to sound us off for another great week here on TNT.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well just to go back to what somebody asked them the super chat, I was just curious.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, Sean Devari's TNA theme song, he was a chic Abdul Bashir in TNA, and it was an instrumental track that apparently opened with a plain crash sound effect.
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[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: LOL TNA.
03:09:05.337 --> 03:09:06.818
[UNKNOWN]: LOL TNA.
03:09:06.838 --> 03:09:08.258
[UNKNOWN]: I guess we now know which is worse.
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[UNKNOWN]: are you a devari or That's just that's terrible.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's just ridiculous.
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[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, guys.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you very much for all your support We will be back with you next week here on TNT follow us on social media YouTube because no one would have find us Links for everything Jason related is down below.
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[UNKNOWN]: Continue to hit that thumbs up and please leave a comment helps us out Tremendously we'll see you next week right back here for more Tuesday night time.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll see you guys later
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[UNKNOWN]: You